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Iran profitably "sold" its nuclear program

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Iran profitably "sold" its nuclear program



After nearly a week of tense negotiations in Geneva, the Six international mediators (Russia, USA, China, Britain, France and Germany) and Iran reached an agreement on the nuclear issue. This deal has already been called "historical". "Diplomacy has paved the way for a safer world," proclaimed US President Obama. However, the agreements reached do not put an end to the story of Tehran’s nuclear ambitions - rather, an ellipsis.

“We have reached an agreement,” Javad Zarif, Iran’s foreign minister, wrote on his Twitter account.

What does the international community receive from Iran, fearing that the Islamic Republic will soon become the owner of a nuclear weapons?

According to US President Barack Obama, Tehran agrees to abandon the deployment of new centrifuges to enrich uranium, allow international inspectors to enter its nuclear facilities and freeze the construction of a heavy water reactor that is technically capable of producing weapons-grade plutonium.

"Iran has agreed to a number of additional measures. The IAEA’s capabilities to control Iran’s nuclear program are significantly expanding, and we are fully confident that Iran will cooperate in good faith with the agency," Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, calling for "easing the pressure on Iran." .

What does Iran get from the “Geneva deal”?

In response to its concessions, Tehran receives a partial easing of economic sanctions. According to media reports, it is primarily about the defrosting of Iranian foreign assets in the amount of $ 4,2 billion.

US President Obama called the agreements reached the first but important step, opening the way to further negotiations on the whole range of issues of concern to the world community.

As an “insurance”, it is stated that if within half a year the international community does not see the Iranian partners fulfilling the promise, the sanctions will be restored in full.

"The broader sanctions architecture will remain intact and we will continue to use them toughly," said Barack Obama, who called on Congress not to accept new sanctions against Iran in connection with the agreement reached.

Recall that progress in resolving the problem was possible after the election of the moderate Iran Hassan Rouhani in June 2013 of the year, but the first round of talks, held in Geneva on November 7-9, ended in vain.

Despite the optimistic notes that sound about the Geneva agreements, not everyone is in a hurry to rejoice at the deal between the Six and Tehran. First of all - in Israel. The Prime Minister of this country spent the last days in tense negotiations, trying to prevent the conclusion of a deal, which, according to Israel, will only play into the hands of Iran, which is not going to give up its plans to build nuclear weapons. According to the Israeli point of view, the easing of sanctions will give a break to the Iranian regime and will help it even closer to obtaining weapons of mass destruction.

“Israel cannot join the world jubilation based on deceit and self-deception,” said Israeli intelligence minister Yuval Steinitz, who is in charge of the cabinet for issues related to the Iranian nuclear issue. “This is a bad deal, making it difficult to find an acceptable solution in the future.” Like the failed agreement with North Korea, the current agreements could actually bring Iran closer to finding a bomb. ”

Barack Obama decided to reassure Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu by talking to him on the phone on Sunday. But it is very doubtful that the President of the United States will be able to find words that will be able to mitigate in Israel dissatisfaction with the Geneva agreements.

Moreover, among American politicians, many are extremely skeptical about the possibility of curbing the appetites of Iranian rulers with diplomatic curtsies. Thus, Republican Senator Mark Kirk is confident that easing anti-Iran sanctions will provide the state, which the United States considers to be a sponsor of terrorism, billions of dollars in exchange for cosmetic concessions. And another Republican senator Marco Rubio believes that the Geneva agreement makes "nuclear Iran no less, but more possible." In his opinion, the deal with Tehran strikes at the American allies in the Middle East region (Israel is probably meant first of all - however, Arabian monarchies also have serious concerns about the possible strengthening of Iran) and “sends the wrong message to the Iranian people, who continues to suffer under the repressive rule of their leaders, who think only of their own self-preservation. "
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  1. Alikovo
    Alikovo 25 November 2013 07: 16
    +4
    Saudis and Jews are still dissatisfied with the outcome of the negotiations.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 25 November 2013 07: 28
      11
      Quote: Alikovo
      Saudis and Jews are still dissatisfied with the outcome of the negotiations.

      And in Russia there are no reasons for joy: Oil prices on world markets fell by more than two dollars per barrel after the announcement of the signing by Iran and the "six" world powers of an agreement on Tehran's nuclear program.
      According to the agreement, Iran stops uranium enrichment for six months in exchange for lifting restrictions on oil exports.
      As the BBC correspondent recalls, Iran is the fourth largest oil country in the world.
      A double-edged sword ....
      1. APES
        APES 25 November 2013 08: 53
        +3
        Quote: Tersky
        A double-edged sword ....


        no one will let oil prices fall - for one common reason - high oil prices in their own way support the dollar (not all the same to invest in paper gizmos)

        а
        Quote: Tersky
        Saudis and Jews


        they feel a real danger - especially the Monarchy of the Persian Gulf - and what if some new floral henya happens to them. There are all prerequisites ...
        1. Rusi dolaze
          Rusi dolaze 25 November 2013 11: 34
          +1
          I agree, no one will let you fall.
          In addition, the Saudis and Jews are furious, now have opened the possibility of oil export to Iran and thawed bills, so Tehran will now be able to help Assad without much haemorrh :) After all, he made it up with cunning schemes with flags on tankers, etc. :))
          Here the hedgehog and went :) That hell to them, not Syria :)
          1. atalef
            atalef 25 November 2013 11: 36
            +1
            Quote: Rusi dolaze
            I agree, no one will let you fall.
            In addition, the Saudis and Jews are furious, now have opened the possibility of oil export to Iran and thawed bills, so Tehran will now be able to help Assad without much haemorrh :) After all, he made it up with cunning schemes with flags on tankers, etc. :))
            Here the hedgehog and went :) That hell to them, not Syria :)

            From the sale of oil by Iran, the price of yenzin will only decrease, I personally only feel good.
            1. atalef
              atalef 25 November 2013 13: 50
              0
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: Rusi dolaze
              I agree, no one will let you fall.
              In addition, the Saudis and Jews are furious, now have opened the possibility of oil export to Iran and thawed bills, so Tehran will now be able to help Assad without much haemorrh :) After all, he made it up with cunning schemes with flags on tankers, etc. :))
              Here the hedgehog and went :) That hell to them, not Syria :)

              From the sale of oil by Iran, the price of yenzin will only decrease, I personally only feel good.

              EU, oil prices fell by 2% in one day - and this is just the beginning, great news - gasoline will become cheaper even more
              1. ramzes1776
                ramzes1776 25 November 2013 23: 43
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                EU, oil prices fell by 2% in one day - and this is just the beginning, great news - gasoline will become cheaper even more

                It will become cheaper and more expensive in Russia. They promise to raise it by 8-10% next year. If the decision on Iran were the opposite, we would still have an increase, and not just gasoline. This is our national tradition sad Happy New Year !!!
            2. mirag2
              mirag2 25 November 2013 15: 33
              0
              The United States maintains secret contacts with Hezbollah ....

              As the American edition of The World Tribune reports with reference to the Lebanese pro-Western "March 14 coalition", these contacts were authorized by President Obama. The topic of these contacts is, first of all, the issue of stability in Lebanon, as well as the participation of Hezbollah in the future government.
              "The US is exchanging messages with Hezbollah through third parties close to the Shiite organization," the sources said. According to them, these contacts have noticeably intensified in recent weeks against the backdrop of rapprochement between the United States and Iran.

              News Agency “CursorInfo”
          2. Basarev
            Basarev 25 November 2013 13: 25
            -2
            I hope Iran will create atomic weapons.
            1. Farik
              Farik 26 November 2013 01: 18
              +1
              Quote: Basarev
              I hope Iran will create atomic weapons.

              Why does Russia need such a neighbor with a nuclear club, especially since we have not really divided the Caspian yet.
        2. alone
          alone 25 November 2013 19: 09
          +1
          Quote: APES
          they feel a real danger - especially the Monarchy of the Persian Gulf - and what if some new floral henya happens to them. There are all prerequisites ...


          What are the prerequisites in question? The subjects of the monarchs do not work anywhere, they receive substantial money. there was an attempt in Kuwait, but the Kuwaiti monarch raised salaries by 5 times, and pensions by 4 times and the question was dropped immediately))). And the Shiite revolution, which Iran actively supported, was crushed with the help of the SA forces. The subjects of the monarchies are too rich to risk their assets for the sake of some dubious transaction.
          1. Farik
            Farik 26 November 2013 01: 20
            +1
            Quote: lonely
            The subjects of the monarchs do not work anywhere, they receive substantial money. there was an attempt in Kuwait, but the Kuwaiti monarch raised salaries by 5 times, and pensions by 4 times and the question was dropped instantly))).

            That's who has long been living under communism !!! yes
      2. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 25 November 2013 10: 14
        0
        [quote = Tersky]
        And in Russia there is no reason for joy either: [b] Oil prices on world markets fell by more than two dollars a barrel after the announcement of the signing by Iran and the "six" world powers of an agreement on Tehran's nuclear program.
        / Quote]
        Like a bullseye dear.
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 25 November 2013 07: 50
      +6
      Why hysteria like that?
      Here Israel (the majority of its population) hates Arabs, and Israel has nuclear weapons, and so what?
      Why does the world not scream that this is not normal? -States, of course, the Jews are covering up from this topic.
      Well, there will be nuclear weapons from those against whom Israel is waging an OPEN sabotage war.
      Well, and even if Iran has nuclear weapons, so what? He also wants to protect himself from the Jews.
      And the Jews, without any first, they themselves bomb everything, blow up, and indeed his whole policy inevitably restores the mood in society against themselves.
      1. alexdol
        alexdol 25 November 2013 08: 06
        +8
        mirag2 (2) RU "And the Jews, without anything, are the first, they themselves bomb, blow up everyone-"
        ----------------------------------------------------------------------
        I completely agree with you, and I myself have repeated the same thing many times! And we should absolutely CARE about the opinion of this "international" community! All this "community", as Andrei Fursov absolutely rightly called it, is an Organized Crime Group!
      2. APES
        APES 25 November 2013 09: 17
        +2
        Quote: mirag2
        and in general, all of his politics inevitably restores the mood in society against himself.


        a feeling that this is achieved ....
        and they want a clear - cynical - naked aggression by Israel.

        it will be funny if sanctions are introduced against Israel wink

        and the project - no one canceled the big Middle East ... and if so, then before 2020 of the year - someone kind of spoke.
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 25 November 2013 13: 27
          -2
          And when will the Iranians erase Israel?
          1. atalef
            atalef 25 November 2013 13: 51
            +1
            Quote: Basarev
            And when will the Iranians erase Israel?

            You probably have the name Basaev?
            1. Basarev
              Basarev 25 November 2013 15: 32
              -2
              I just don’t like the nest of aggression and robbery named Israel
    3. APES
      APES 25 November 2013 08: 50
      +4
      Quote: Alikovo
      dissatisfied with the outcome of the negotiations.


      something tells me that Iran will have a bomb
      1. AVV
        AVV 25 November 2013 10: 21
        +2
        This will be necessary if America does not lift sanctions for a long time, and if its allies in the person of Israel and the Saudis still decide to bomb Iran, then nothing can be ruled out !!!
        1. alone
          alone 25 November 2013 19: 13
          +1
          Quote: AVV
          This will be necessary if America does not lift sanctions for a long time, and if its allies in the person of Israel and the Saudis still decide to bomb Iran, then nothing can be ruled out !!!


          if they bomb, they won’t be able to create anymore. they know where what is. Do you think Mossad just eats his bread?
    4. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 25 November 2013 19: 24
      0
      Quote: Alikovo
      Saudis and Jews are still dissatisfied with the outcome of the negotiations.

      You won’t please everyone, let the Saudis and the Jews burst with anger, their number is sixteen.
    5. just exp
      just exp 25 November 2013 22: 44
      +1
      why should they be happy? they had the goal of removing Iran from the geopolitical map as their biggest rival (the Saudis and Israel themselves are not competitors to each other, these are two buttocks of the same w @ py), the US supported them were a ram of the Israelis and Arabs against Iran, since they themselves wanted to stay clean and successful, but oops, it didn’t work out. pichalka.
  2. Edward72
    Edward72 25 November 2013 07: 19
    +8
    Like air, Bobama needs at least some ghostly victory. Against the backdrop of the failure with Syria. Well, Srail is the Srail, the second country that is always preoccupied.
  3. TAIM
    TAIM 25 November 2013 07: 20
    0
    Well, someone breakthrough someone across the throat. as always.
  4. Sunjar
    Sunjar 25 November 2013 07: 23
    +1
    It seems that the "regime" in Iraq will not yet turn into an "undemocratic state" and mass unrest demanding resignation of the current ruler.
    Campaign Israel still decided to merge, give it to the Muslims to devour. Another Doomsday War. And Israel will again be banned from throwing nuclear missiles.
  5. Clueless
    Clueless 25 November 2013 07: 23
    +3
    Well, they will close the nuclear program, well, anyway, in a couple of years, fighters for democracy will come there.
  6. erased
    erased 25 November 2013 07: 30
    +9
    One man made an ax and began to threaten their neighbors. Then the second man also made an ax. They both threatened each other and others, but did not apply. Then a few more neighbors made axes. Smaller and not so good, but still. Ax owners ... well, almost 10.
    And then he wanted to make an ax a new neighbor and then another. And here the former owners of ka-ak began to prohibit doing this! Like, enough axes in the village! It’s dangerous to give you axes! We are for this ... and we will not be anything. And persuaded!
    So why did the first ax owners get the right to point out to the rest? By the law of the first or by the law of the strong?
    And the moral of the tale is simple - make an ax faster than others and every time a new one. Then you will point and not be afraid of instructions about yourself!
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 25 November 2013 09: 01
      +6
      Quote: erased
      And the moral of the tale is simple - make an ax faster than others and every time a new one. Then you will point and not be afraid of instructions about yourself!

      What, in due time, North Korea managed to do.
      How she protected herself from possible external military threats ...
      The nuclear baton is a double-edged thing. But its presence allows the owner to hum the song "... We are peaceful people, but our armored train ...".
  7. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 25 November 2013 07: 44
    +3
    In the current world order, only possession of nuclear weapons can guarantee security and the ability to conduct dialogue on an equal footing. The presence of such in Iran undermines Israeli dominance in the region, and that is indignant in Tel Aviv. They are nevertheless calmer to sleep in the presence of two hundred charges in their stocks and in the complete absence of those of their neighbors.
  8. makarov
    makarov 25 November 2013 07: 44
    0
    ... "sends the wrong message to the Iranian people, who continue to suffer under the repressive rule of their leaders, who think only of their own self-preservation" ....

    So it turns out that the conclusions of the terry international reactionary and the instigator of the war do not see that the real leaders of repression on the Arabian continent are Qatar, the UAE, and K *. The main thing to yell first - HOLD the thief !!!
  9. Denis
    Denis 25 November 2013 07: 46
    +1
    Just not demolished!
    and then, as it were, reconciliation
    Monument to a boot in a clever Bush
    1. atalef
      atalef 25 November 2013 11: 35
      0
      Quote: Denis
      Just not demolished!
      and then, as it were, reconciliation
      Monument to a boot in a clever Bush

      Well, apart from throwing shoes, they don’t get anything else, they would have achieved something significant, and since the Middle Ages, they threw a shoe - all is a national hero and a country in chocolate laughing
      Monkey
      1. Denis
        Denis 25 November 2013 19: 36
        0
        Quote: atalef
        except throwing shoes, they have nothing else
        But agree that it’s better, albeit non-diplomatic, to throw boots than bombs
        The Japanese got a room with a stuffed boss-kicked, called, let off steam and Pasha further
  10. regdan
    regdan 25 November 2013 08: 02
    0
    From Iran, there are 3 threats to Israel. Science, industry and economics. I already wrote about this once, now everything falls into place. The process of dismantling the illegally formed state of Israel begins. The stupid Benya Cheburek is to blame for everything.
    1. alone
      alone 25 November 2013 19: 16
      +2
      Quote: regdan
      From Iran, there are 3 threats to Israel. Science, industry and economics


      laughing Especially interesting is a threat called the economy. As we all read here, Iran simply sold its nuclear ambitions for $ 4,2 billion. Please tell me if the country is economically strong, would such a deal be made for $ 4,2 billion?
  11. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 25 November 2013 08: 54
    +3
    Islamic Republic with a Vigorous Bomb !!! Whatever, whoever says, but I somehow trust the Jews more than the Islamists and prefer their leadership in the region. As if now, after the phrase "Alla, I'm in the bar," it was not just plain bombs that began to explode, but "dirty bombs" or gruzovichki with vigorous devices.
  12. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 25 November 2013 10: 15
    0
    The suspension of uranium enrichment will reduce tensions in the Middle East region. Politicians in individual states think that bombing their neighbors is the best way to solve security problems. And the fact that thousands of ordinary people will die, in their opinion, does not matter. No, it won't work. A thin world is the ray of a "good" war.
    1. faraon
      faraon 25 November 2013 11: 24
      +1
      Of course, but when the Iranian bomb will stand on the population, then what will we talk about?
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      2. alexng
        alexng 25 November 2013 12: 09
        +1
        Then the United States and Israel will lag behind Iran, just as they lagged behind the DPRK. And in another they will spread rot and spread rot ...
    2. Basarev
      Basarev 25 November 2013 13: 32
      -5
      I would prefer a good war, for only war can sweep away all this bloodthirsty coder
      1. faraon
        faraon 25 November 2013 13: 42
        +3
        And do not be afraid of the consequences of this war, fragments will fly around the world.
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 25 November 2013 15: 34
          0
          The consequences of not such wars were overcome!
          1. faraon
            faraon 26 November 2013 02: 05
            0
            Are you personally or the entire Soviet people? As I recall, I remember 80 years of the last century when the collapse of the Soviet economy began, after the Arabs splashed out their oil and gas at dumping prices on the world market.
  13. Yura
    Yura 25 November 2013 10: 40
    +4
    After the defrosting of Iran's assets by America, which is the initiator and the most consistent fan of all kinds of sanctions, Russia can, with a clear conscience, implement and sign agreements on the supply of arms to Iran. And in case of another screaming of our "friends" from the West, simply point a finger at the United States.
  14. Stiletto
    Stiletto 25 November 2013 11: 03
    +2
    "Republican Senator Mark Kirk is confident that the easing of anti-Iranian sanctions will give the state, which the United States considers a sponsor of terrorism, billions of dollars in exchange for cosmetic concessions."

    - Here, I see, the senator is right in this: the USA again outwitted themselves.
    Taking advantage of the temporary respite, Iran will calmly return its blood grandmothers frozen in Western bank accounts, purchase modern weapons (from the same Russia), improve things, and again can safely return to its nuclear program.
  15. faraon
    faraon 25 November 2013 11: 31
    0
    What is six months, zilch, and what will happen after that. Nobody knows this, your pragnosis is the most realistic, God forbid that it would be the other way around, and if not then how.? What will you call on conscience fraternal socialist Iran, Or as usual, we will raise our hands, wipe our snot and admit to ourselves that Iran has not met our expectations.
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 25 November 2013 11: 46
      0
      I'm afraid that Iran’s trust will justify.
      1. faraon
        faraon 25 November 2013 13: 11
        +2
        Why do you get such confidence? Do you really think that Iran is different from the fraternal Arab (socialist) republics? He was already in the quiet of Russia in Aman, was negotiating with mattresses, and Russia was confronted with a fact.
    2. Basarev
      Basarev 25 November 2013 13: 34
      0
      At least Israel will be done away with; the rest does not play a role
  16. Oberst_71
    Oberst_71 25 November 2013 11: 40
    +1
    The fact of the matter is that "the east is a delicate matter" and you can add cunning and dark. And God forbid that our diplomats know what they are doing. For:
    -Iran holds 16% of the world's natural gas reserves. The main deposits are located on the shelf of the Persian Gulf and in the north-east of the country.
    -Iran has large oil reserves in storage, which, if implemented in the wrong policy, could bring it to the world market, Chris Cook, former director of the International Petroleum Exchange, energy market analyst, told Trend on Thursday, according to him, by consensus Iran may bring up to one million barrels of oil per day to the market for one to three months.
    What will happen to oil prices, and maybe this is generally another move by the Americans as in the 80s. What is hidden behind secret meetings of representatives of the us and Iran. QUESTION ?!
  17. Alexandr73
    Alexandr73 25 November 2013 11: 58
    +3
    The East is really a delicate matter and, as Oberst_71 correctly noted, also dark and cunning. Just imagine, you have been building a fence around the house for several years, high, with a thorn, with a system of sensors and other things. They broke a bunch of dough, it remains to finish building the gate and connect everything and you run out of money, and the neighbors, bad people who owe you and say: "break the fence, then we will return the debts, and we will be friends with you." Send them away? so there is nothing to finish building, money is not given to you. You thought and said to your neighbors: "Okay, to hell with you, I will break it, but not now, but walking in six months, otherwise it's a pity, and not break it in two days." The neighbors speak well, but just be sure to break it, otherwise we will not be friends again. With your own money.
    It’s interesting, having received money from the neighbors, that is, what you originally wanted, the question is gnawing at me if you really will break the fence? or quickly quickly hang the gates and plug everything in? moreover, note, breaking everything will come out in every way more expensive than finishing it?
  18. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 25 November 2013 12: 18
    +1
    But something I thought ... Min Dad * Israel cares about the Iranian nuclear bomb? They themselves have ...
    Well, Iran will have a bomb, so what? Will a bomb stop Israeli hawks from striking Iran? No, modern air defense systems will be more likely to interfere with this! America’s Iranian bomb never gave up! They came under pressure from lobbyists from the promised land. So it seems to everyone in FIG!
    But, the Iranian bomb greatly hinders only those who wish to unleash a large-scale predatory war with Iran! For the bomb is the last argument of defense to protect the fatherland!
    On the other hand, Saudi Arabia is in the process of acquiring nuclear weapons from Pakistan! And Israel itself does not see anything shameful in this, continues to ally with the monarchy!
    At the same time, Iran is not connected with terrorism (far-fetched accusations do not count!), Does not threaten neighbors (only swears at them), has a stable republican form of government, with elections and other elements of democracy.
    And on the other hand. Saudi Arabia. Monarchy (more precisely, gerontocracy). The country professes Wahhabism! It wages wars around the world (with the wrong hands). Sponsor of terrorism around the world!
    So the question is why the odious Saudi regime can buy an atomic bomb, but Iran cannot!



    * (Mordovian ideomatic expression)
    1. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 25 November 2013 12: 26
      +1
      Yes, Iran and the Arabs cannot have nuclear weapons in a priori. to anyone. I would like to remember b. show "The only lesson that can be learned from history is that people do not learn any lessons from history"
      1. regdan
        regdan 25 November 2013 12: 58
        0
        Nafig bombs no one can not have. I would have flown to such a proposal at the UN and I would love to see how they send you three funny letters. And for reference, for all sorts of pasties. In our world, only 2 countries have the right to deliver a vigorous strike. Everyone else is forbidden under pain of the death penalty.
        1. faraon
          faraon 25 November 2013 13: 07
          +3
          Your words, yes, to God’s ears, but the reality is the opposite of everyone will tear off a piece of this pie.
          Now, with tacit consent, Iran will bomb the bomb, followed by Saud, then Qatar, etc.
          a bomb is not a condom, it’s a bit more serious. What would it be owned and used by everyone, and sundry.
  19. FormerMariman
    FormerMariman 25 November 2013 14: 49
    0
    Iran will unfreeze its assets and the reactor on the sly on heavy water will launch everything with the hands of Russia, and the Americans will benefit, they will again have a reason to fight the universal "evil"! Obamka is a weak president.
    1. faraon
      faraon 26 November 2013 02: 16
      0
      Oh well, it seemed to you like a rather cunning president, taking a step back to resolve the Syrian issue, and two steps forward to resolve the Iranian one.
      I will explain:
      yielding to Russia in Syria, he secretly negotiated in Aman with Iran., Now Iran is a pro-American state, in principle, all Middle Eastern countries hooked on an Amer needle, and pursuing pro-American policy in the region. Now look what will happen next. Oil prices are already starting to fall who will benefit from this? the United States, that is, the worst-case scenario for the collapse of the Russian economy is possible. The expansion of China in the Far East and Siberia. So, as it were, you would not have to introduce Chinese in schools on a par with Russian. And this is already a serious danger.
  20. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 25 November 2013 16: 12
    0
    The performance has just begun. In the third act, a sharp rapprochement between Iran and Russia, possibly Russia will receive an air force base in Iran, and the entire Arabian Peninsula and the Indian Ocean will become available for our strategic aviation. Iran will rearm and play a leading role in the Islamic world. Shiites are the most peaceful movement in Islam.
    1. alone
      alone 25 November 2013 19: 22
      +2
      Quote: Jurkovs
      maybe Russia will get an air force base in Iran and the entire Arabian Peninsula and the Indian Ocean will become available for our strategic aviation


      ))) Iran will never allow Russia to create a base on its territory. They do not even want to divide the Caspian section on Russian proposals, and you are talking about the Air Force base.

      Quote: Jurkovs
      Iran will rearm and play a leading role in the Islamic world.


      you are generally aware that the vast majority of Muslims are Sunnis. Iran will never be allowed to play a leading role in the Islamic world.

      Quote: Jurkovs
      Shiites are the most peaceful movement in Islam.


      I myself am a Shiite and I know what Shiism is. Believe me, you are fundamentally mistaken in believing that Shiites are a peace-loving movement.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 25 November 2013 20: 05
        0
        But still, Shiism is more peaceful than Wahhabism ...
        1. alone
          alone 25 November 2013 22: 53
          +1
          Quote: Basarev
          But still, Shiism is more peaceful than Wahhabism ...


          One coin with two sides. Do you think Heheboll is better than al-Qaeda? The same thing, only the name is different))
  21. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 25 November 2013 19: 11
    0
    Israel, by the way, and the Arabian monarchies also have serious concerns about the possible strengthening of Iran) and "sends the wrong message to the Iranian people, who continue to suffer under the repressive rule of their leaders, who think only of their own self-preservation."

    The Saudis and Jews are afraid of punishment for trying to draw the Yankees into the war against Iran, they know the cats whose fat was eaten.
    With regard to repressiveness and concern for self-preservation, the sheikhs of the Saudis and Jews have long left behind the leaders of Iran. The killing of Palestinians in Israel "on suspicion of terrorism" and public executions in Saudi Arabia are commonplace.
    In January 2012, the United Nations Human Rights Commission expressed concern about the increasing number of executions in Saudi Arabia. If in the 2010 year, 26 people were executed for various crimes, then in the 2011 year of deaths there were 76. Among the condemned were at least three women and 11 foreigners. This is unofficial data, Human Rights Watch (HRW) calls the number 69 people, and Amnesty International - 79, including five women. The West tirelessly criticizes Iran for the use of the death penalty against women and does not say anything about this practice in Saudi Arabia. However, she is.
    1. faraon
      faraon 26 November 2013 02: 24
      0
      The Saudis and Jews are afraid of punishment for trying to draw the Yankees into the war against Iran, they know the cats whose fat was eaten.
      With regard to repressiveness and concern for self-preservation, the sheikhs of the Saudis and Jews have long left behind the leaders of Iran. Murder of Palestinians in Israel "on suspicion of terrorism" and public executions in Saudi Arabia are commonplace

      No punishment will be given to the above countries, as the USA played the map of Iran in a lot of running combinations. At the beginning they blew up the Middle East with color revolutions, then the Syrian aggression, then they united Saudi Arabia with Israel (the most powerful regimes in the BV.) And the penultimate Iran has returned its steps under its wing, and if it again tries to leave the zone of Amer’s influence, that is, the Saudis and Israel. These will not be delayed, especially since everything is ready for this.
      Well, as for the bomb, it is unnecessary for Iran to have the USA. Let them play.
  22. demotivator
    demotivator 25 November 2013 19: 36
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    I don’t think that the decision on the Iranian nuclear program was made at the will of the Russian Federation; rather, on the contrary, our delegation only witnessed what the United States and Germany had decided long ago. It is they who are in command of the parade today, and our Foreign Ministry with Lavrov only records what the others have decided. He cannot somehow influence world events. But for the purposes of internal propaganda, any geopolitical changes can be attributed to oneself, just as if you run down the street in the evening and shout "I want the sun to rise" - in the morning, when it rises, you can attribute the leadership of the sunrise process to yourself and some will probably believe it. In the same way, they will only believe in this "next foreign policy success" of Russian diplomacy. In fact, the treaty with Iran is the chemically pure will of the United States and Europe, no one else. But why did they go to the world? Iran has been annoying the United States for a long time and this summer everyone was waiting for the start of a big war - first in Syria, then - the transition of the war to Iran. Since Iran is not Iraq, a war with it would be difficult even for the United States and would require significant losses in personnel and major financial costs. Therefore, such a war for the state should be the only one in order to concentrate all efforts on the topic. But it would be difficult for the United States to concentrate them if Russia is on the world map. This is a problem for the West, and for the whole world, more serious than Iran, or rather, a much more serious problem. Therefore, if these two problems, that is, the problem of the Russian Federation and the problem of Iran, are resolved, then it is correct not to do everything at once, but to extinguish the hotbeds of global destabilization in turn. And the first client here is the Russian Federation. Hence, if the United States suddenly turned 180 degrees from its past Iranian policy, ignoring the requests of its main ally Israel, then the order of goals has already been determined. Iran is no longer a priority, because the priority goal is now the Russian Federation, where they will work with the local regime. What will happen now? Nothing special. Since the main income of the rulers of the Russian Federation is based not on real production, but on trade in energy resources, market price changes are ahead. And nobody can be blamed for anything. Now sanctions against Iran will begin to screw up, Iranian oil will rush into the market and ..... prices for it will fall dramatically. And if the United States and Europe also steer the process, then prices can generally fall significantly. And then the Russian economy will say hello, because without oil there will be no economy and no regime here. Everything will be covered with a copper basin, on which it will only be necessary to knock with a boot so that frightened fat cockroaches begin to crawl out from under the basin.
  23. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 25 November 2013 19: 51
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    Quote: demotivator
    I don’t think that the decision on the Iranian nuclear program was made at the will of the Russian Federation; rather, on the contrary, our delegation only witnessed what the United States and Germany had long decided. It is they who command the parade today, and our Foreign Ministry with Lavrov only fixes what others have decided. He cannot somehow influence world events.

    Here you are mistaken .. dear Russia showed how to act in the Syrian crisis ... (and note the S-300 Iran was not delivered .. I understand there was an ultimatum try to agree and the S-300 is not a panacea for aggression ..) .. Syrian we crushed the crisis almost the entire fleet in front of the Amer’s armada .. (to die like that with music .. of course bluffed and still won this time ..) .. Obama, despite the pressure of the Jewish lobby, took the right step .. as it says 1: 1 ..Further Israel and the Saudis make a move with a horse (or a camel)))) We are waiting ...
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 25 November 2013 20: 16
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      Quote: MIKHAN
      Further Israel with the Sauds make a knight's move

      I would like it to be HEAD, to each other. That would be a song ...
    2. faraon
      faraon 26 November 2013 01: 59
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      Well, if you, as a layman, are satisfied with this version, then the flag is in your hands, only after inappropriately speaking and letting out snot, that Iran has not disproved your confidence.
      The issue with Iran was to return him under American protection as a prodigal son. For this, secret negotiations between the American administration and the newly elected Iranian president were held in Aman. Russia was confronted with the fact that there was no victory for Russian diplomacy, rather defeat. In what? Already now, oil prices have fallen on world markets, and if Iran supplies its oil and gas to the world market and even at dumping prices, the Russian economy will collapse as it did in the 80s of the last century. (And this is so will be).
      So for the dubious victory of Russian diplomacy in the Syrian crisis, the Russian economy will have to pay, that is, the United States, without firing a shot at minimum cost, pushes back the rise of the Russian economy for a certain number of years.
      Well, as for Israel with the Saudis, they are destined for the role of chain dogs in the Middle East. In the sense, if Iran bucks up again and leaves the US influence zone. If it tries to pursue an independent policy, then Israel and Saudi Arabia will be a punishing sword. Well, something like that .
  24. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 25 November 2013 21: 18
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    Quote: stalkerwalker
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    Further Israel with the Sauds make a knight's move

    I would like it to be HEAD, to each other. That would be a song ...

    No, they are both offended now ... and angry .. (whispering to each other ..) Intriguers are professional .. (and with money lobbies all over the world ..) Here you need to be on the alert ..! (But if it's true that Putin replied to a hint of Saud allegedly "(hand over Syria and the Olympics, you will lead weapons without any problems, we will buy them for billions ...) We will strike right away .. (God forbid that it be true) with such it is only necessary ... ...