Lithuanian military disclosed tactics of war in the event of an attack

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Lithuanian military disclosed tactics of war in the event of an attackA spokesman for the Lithuanian army’s strategic communications department, Lieutenant Colonel Arturas Yasinskas, said Friday that the Lithuanian troops, if attacked, are ready to wage an asymmetrical war and wait for the Allied assistance for at least a month.

“The goal of our armed forces would be to cause confusion in enemy units, to engage him in an asymmetrical war. As a result, 30 days of self-defense would be real, ”said Yasinskas.

"The goal of our armed forces would be to cause confusion in enemy units, to engage him in an asymmetric war"

Responding to a question from Delfi, would Lithuania have lasted a day or two if it were attacked like Georgia, he said: “You shouldn’t devalue yourself. We would have to defend to the last drop of the enemy’s blood. Georgia is not an example for Lithuania, as it is not a member of the EU and NATO. Georgians had weapon, such as Tanks, and Lithuania focuses on defense together with NATO partners. We have anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons, plus NATO support. ”

Representatives of the Lithuanian army argue that there can be not only military, but also cybernetic, as well as informational threats in the country, so it is necessary to educate citizens against the actions of the enemy.

“The last two threats are directed not only against the army, but also against society. Without him, the army alone will not be able to fight. Currently, the main task of the enemy is to break the will of society to resist, ”said foreman Thomas Cheponis.

Army representatives noted that the greatest threats emanate from states with an authoritarian regime. According to them, in Lithuania 8 thousand professional military and about 4,3 thousand volunteers.

Yasinskas stressed several times that the main thing for Lithuania is to be able to wage an asymmetrical war, this requires mobile armament.
An asymmetrical military conflict is a war between opponents whose military power, strategy and tactics differ greatly.
In such a war, they no longer count on military power, but on resourcefulness in military strategy and tactics, the ability of the weaker side to strike the enemy with the least cost.

Answering the question if Lithuania has a plan, how to defend itself against the enemy, if NATO partners do not come to the rescue, Yasinskas first excluded this possibility, but added that there is a so-called plan B.

“Of course, there is a plan. In addition to NATO, as an organization, there are obligations of individual allied countries. Their support comes from the contribution of our military in international operations, where we help them ensure the security of their countries, ”he said.

Recall that on the night of 8 in August of 2008, Georgian troops attacked South Ossetia and destroyed part of its capital. Russia, defending the inhabitants of the republic, many of whom possessed citizenship of the Russian Federation, sent in troops and after five days of battles ousted Georgian troops from the region.

During the events, 64 of the Russian military were killed, including 15 peacekeepers. As a result of the hostilities unleashed by Georgia, 655 houses were completely destroyed, 2139 houses and buildings were partially destroyed.

Dmitry Medvedev, then president, explained that Russia was thus forced to respond to the corresponding aggressive actions that were then taken by the Georgian armed forces.
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  1. +48
    23 November 2013 07: 34
    Well, the tactics of these forest brothers are well known to us.

    Ambush, sabotage, terrorist attacks and other delights of guerrilla warfare - in an open battle with regular units they will be quickly destroyed (WHAT THEY WILL STEEL TO AVOID).
    Therefore, it is necessary to act in the fight against them with the old proven methods of the NKVD.
    1. Aydar
      -50
      23 November 2013 08: 20
      Dear, let me remind you that this is how the "partisan tactics" condemned by you was used by the USSR in the war with the Wehrmacht (it was called "bandit war" there), on the one hand, it fettered the actions of the Wehrmacht, but on the other hand, it led to huge casualties among the civilian population (so how the Wehrmacht handed over powers to fight "the old proven methods of the SS and SD", as a result of which the tactics of "scorched earth" and genocide of civilians were implemented, with the aim of depriving the guerrillas of their food base and infrastructure.
      1. +27
        23 November 2013 09: 29
        Aydar you listed is not the best example - I remind you that on the occupied territory you can pursue a completely different kind of policy, for example, to win the hearts of people by raising the economy, building factories, houses, schools, kindergartens, etc.
        creating power structures that are not connected with the gang underground, and most importantly, a person who is trusted by the local population and who can be relied on should be at the head of all this.
        1. -10
          23 November 2013 10: 59
          Quite right. Keitel in the Kuban forbade any actions of SS men, and as a result the partisan movement was insignificant. In addition, many Cossacks and indigenous people went to serve the Germans, which is very sad.
          1. +30
            23 November 2013 17: 24
            Pashhenko Nikolay
            You are welcome. Before you replicate blessed tales, think with your head ...
            Firstly, Keitel forbade nothing to anyone - he did not have any authority to forbid anything.
            Secondly, since when did Keitel command the SS troops?
            thirdly, the Wehrmacht in relation to the civilian population behaved in exactly the same way as the SS. And the lion's share of that sea of ​​blood shed by us by the Germans is on the account of ordinary children from the Wehrmacht.

            According to the article.
            Guys. There will be no partisanism in Lithuania now. And that's why.
            1. They do not have a mobresource - the forest brothers are Germans who did not have time to escape and their minions, who studied for four years to fight and kill - they were forced to fight with partisans, including pro-Soviet Lithuanians. These villains had nothing to lose - the executioners were messed up from head to toe.
            Now this is not. There is a dumb Europeanizing herd that doesn’t know anything, which understands that if the Russians come, then what they did to the Russian-speaking people can go sideways - they will shut up and shake like pig tails. :)))
            And yet - everyone, I hope, remembers that the forest brothers were mostly destroyed by the Lithuanians themselves - hawk detachments?
            2. They do not have enough weapons - in one Shali regiment. there was more military equipment given to the Czechs than in the entire Lithuanian army.
            3. The area in Lithuania does not currently favor partisanship - one attack - instant localization and guaranteed destruction of any gang formation - this is the fate of the forest brothers at present.
            4. The only thing they will be capable of is rare and minor terrorist attacks in cities.
            The Russian-speaking population, of course, is able to and will assist in the destruction of terrorists, as the Lithuanians themselves, ALWAYS joyfully and zealously cooperating with all the new authorities - they have such a nature ... :)))
            1. +5
              24 November 2013 08: 40
              Quote: smile
              The area in Lithuania does not currently favor partisanship - one attack - instant localization and guaranteed destruction of any gang formation - this is the fate of the forest brothers at present.

              really something, and in recent years, our specialists ate this dog
              1. sapran
                0
                24 November 2013 12: 46
                It is very good that the work is done at a professional level. So only positive news will come from the Caucasus.
            2. +4
              24 November 2013 14: 50
              Quote: smile
              Now this is not. There’s a dumb, incapable Europeanized herd,

              Rough, but in relation to the "partisan" potential of Lithuania (and not only) - an absolutely precise definition! good
              A society of consuming egoists is not capable, and does not want to, "withstand" any serious threat. All "trust" is on NATO, that is, on the United States.
              But the "Europeanized herd" often does not understand that the main threat does not come from Russia at all ...
              1. 0
                24 November 2013 19: 23
                Alekseev
                You perfectly complemented me, and rudeness is present - you are right, I agree, I can say in my defense that I am limited by the scope of the comment - I want to write shorter. :))))
          2. tooth46
            -4
            23 November 2013 21: 16
            Keitel’s decision is secondary. The primary fact is that the Kuban Cossacks were strongly offended by the Soviet regime. Many of them perceived Hitler’s invasion as liberation from the Bolsheviks. What could be the resistance in this case? On the contrary, cooperation with the invaders, as you know.
          3. +3
            24 November 2013 00: 11
            1. There were many offended Cossacks by the Soviet government 2. The area does not favor partisan actions. Stupidly there is nowhere to hide in the Kuban - there are very few forests, the territory is relatively limited.
          4. HAM
            +4
            24 November 2013 15: 31
            Why is it that half of the inhabitants of the village of Urupskaya lie in wells-mass graves, shot by the Germans as partisans, so you say, don’t talk!
        2. +16
          23 November 2013 11: 33
          Will there be anyone to dig and bury caches?

          Almost 600.000 thousand inhabitants have already emigrated from the delights of EU membership from Lithuania. Naturally the most able-bodied and combat-ready. For a second - 20% of the population. pww.ru/index.php?topic=11889.0

          And this is not counting those who did not pass passports.

          At this pace, they soon will not pick up a crew for their tank troops.
        3. 0
          23 November 2013 19: 58
          It should be simpler, a strange concept of some kind of asymmetric war. It's like in a movie about cowboys, but you have to hit it once so that the territory is bypassed in the next 20 years. The only thing is to warn all the "friends" in advance, do not meddle, we do not need you, but if we are inadequate to us.
        4. ka5280
          0
          24 November 2013 18: 05
          Somehow it didn’t work for the USSR, because how many wolves do not feed, but he still looks into the forest. To protect the army from the partisans, the Lithuanians will have to transport it to Yamal.
      2. +31
        23 November 2013 09: 46
        What time! It turns out that the partisans are to blame for the genocide of our people, and not Hitler in their orders to clean up the eastern territories from subhumans and populate them with the titular nation.
        I feel like you will soon begin to review the Nuremberg trials.
        1. -6
          23 November 2013 13: 34
          hi Dear, you don’t have to juggle any partisans who do not blame, in this context, not motives are considered and discussed, but tactics of warfare, an analysis of the experience of past warriors and the possibility of future use soldier
      3. Evgeniy.
        +6
        23 November 2013 10: 19
        she (tactics) back in 1812
      4. +3
        23 November 2013 11: 40
        Quote: Aydar
        Dear, let me remind you that this is how the "partisan tactics" condemned by you was used by the USSR in the war with the Wehrmacht (it was called "bandit war" there), on the one hand, it fettered the actions of the Wehrmacht, but on the other hand, it led to huge casualties among the civilian population (so how the Wehrmacht handed over powers to fight "the old proven methods of the SS and SD", as a result of which the tactics of "scorched earth" and genocide of civilians were implemented, with the aim of depriving the guerrillas of their food base and infrastructure.


        you are mistaken, Aydar. as soon as the Wehrmacht crossed the borders of the USSR, forest brothers and parts of the Lithuanian corps began to operate in the Baltic states, attacking the columns and small detachments of the Red Army. This was partisan tactics used by the Baltic states at the beginning of the war. That is why Vilno was taken on June 24.
        1. sasska
          +9
          23 November 2013 12: 01
          After the start of the war and the crossing of the USSR border by the Wehrmacht, the Defense League and Omakaitse (Estonia), aizsargi (Latvia) and Lithuanian nationalists became more active. they also "became famous" for the massacres of the population and executions of Jews (Estonia Judenfrei, for example)
          but the "forest brothers" appeared a little later, when the occupation regime voluntarily and compulsorily began to carry out appeals to the German army. so then the newly-minted adherents of the "new world order" ran into the forest.

          something like that.
        2. +4
          23 November 2013 17: 45
          alone
          But you, too, are mistaken ... slightly.
          The fact. that, firstly, at 41 they were not yet called forest brothers.
          secondly, what do you mean by parts of the Lithuanian corps? Former Lithuanian units that transferred almost entirely to the Red Army. basically remained loyal to us and withdrew together with the Red Army. Yes, the Germans had branched agents in Lithuania, created for almost a dozen years. The Germans created in Lithuania fascist paramilitary organizations like Geležinis Vilkas (Iron Wolf). The Germans supplied them with weapons and massively sent there ZHRG from persons of Lithuanian nationality .... but a week before June 22 ours. realizing that there will be a war sent 11-12 thousand people. Among the deportees, according to the Germans - more than three thousand agents.
          Therefore, an organized large-scale attack by the Lithuanians, which was being prepared by the Germans, did not happen. The actions of the fascist Lithuanians were scattered and caused very little damage. They did not capture a single settlement. Unless in the extermination of the Jews, but the families of our servicemen distinguished themselves. They organized a guerrilla war then-could not.

          Well, why did you say about Vilna? The family of my grandmother immediately after leaving the city with our units went to looting in Vilna :))) She did not see any Lithuanian corps. I saw several gangs armed mostly with nothing, even scraps that killed Jews and robbed shops. All. Yes, and there were no partisans in the Vilnius region — the Poles would not be allowed to act there — their hostility was about the same as that of us with the Nazis. Even between pro-fascist Polish and Lithuanian formations, firearm misunderstandings with corpses sometimes arose.

          The result, the German attempt to organize a massive sabotage war in Lithuania at that time, completely failed and did not have any tangible effect on this theater. There was no Lithuanian corps. If you had in mind the troops of bourgeois Lithuania, they basically joined the Red Army and left with us, remaining faithful to the Soviet regime.
        3. +1
          23 November 2013 20: 51
          Quote: lonely
          Vilno was taken on June 24


          Vilna was taken not because of the actions of the traitors-Latvians, but because of the successful offensive of the Nazi troops on the disorganized by a sudden blow and mediocre orders of the Soviet army. As evidence, during the liberation of the Baltic territories, gangs of Latvians and the remnants of the NF troops remaining in the rear of the Red Army were NOT able to stop or suspend the offensive operations in any way.
          1. 0
            24 November 2013 07: 46
            Blackgrifon quote: Vilnius was not taken because of the actions of the traitors-Latvians,

            Vysotsky once sang: "I will never go to the Poles in Ulan Bator"
      5. +3
        23 November 2013 20: 47
        Quote: Aydar
        Dear, I remind you that this is exactly how you condemn "guerrilla tactics"

        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        open battle with regular units they will quickly be destroyed


        1. For a partisan movement to exist, it is necessary that the population be ready to take up arms, so that the “partisans” have the opportunity to get weapons (in the case of the Balts, they can also get them very quickly), so that the “partisans” know how to use them. Conclusion - the Balts will NEVER have a partisan movement.

        Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
        Keitel in the Kuban forbade any SS escapes, and as a result the partisan movement was insignificant. In addition, many Cossacks and indigenous people joined the Germans, which is very sad.


        Even if these orders were there (I didn’t hear about them), this did not stop the Nazis from burning villages and shooting communists and their families.
        Partisans need to take cover after operations — and it is extremely difficult to take cover in the Kuban steppes.
        In addition, the Soviet government pursued a very cruel policy towards the Cossacks, but even so, during the Second World War the bulk of the surviving Cossacks fought against the Nazis for their homeland.
      6. Goodwinz
        -4
        24 November 2013 03: 22
        why so many minuses?
        1. +3
          24 November 2013 19: 33
          Goodwinz
          Some people are trying to justify the fact that some of the blood spilled in our country is based on the fact that the poor Germans were forced to confront the partisans .... it is surprising that this is not clear to you.
      7. +2
        24 November 2013 08: 36
        there is nothing to worry about the Balts - almost 40% of the population there have the status of non-citizens and it is unlikely they will protect ..... the stepmother
        1. +2
          24 November 2013 21: 44
          edge
          Yes, you’re right .... but in Lithuania the situation is different ..... even in Soviet times it was a republic in which the most monolithic population was Russian-speaking, it was about 20% ... now that the fifth part has left to go on migrant work .. .Russian-speaking even less.
          Why do you think that in Lithuania everything is quiet, just a few Russians ... in my Klaipeda in the nineties a monument was demolished ..... for Klaipeda they gave their lives to 7 thousand soldiers .... comparable to Königsberg .... the battles were so merciless, that in all of Klaipeda exactly 25 people remained after the assault ... for some reason, few people are interested ... the frenzy of the parties was unprecedented .... the whole city, or rather its remains was flooded with blood .... the Germans laid more there .. ..and then there was an assault by the Marine Corps of the Curonian Spit .... not for nothing that flowers grow well on the Spit .....
          that’s why a monument was erected on the second most important square - Victory Square ... a magpie shot by an armor-piercing projectile .... in the mid-nineties, a monument was demolished ... now a flower bed with flowers of the national flag color is broken on the graves ... in the early nineties, shortly before the demolition of the monument, I personally irrigated the area with my blood ... :)))) walked with classmates by ... saw a small crowd ... pasted over the monument with pieces of paper with inscriptions like-with a gun for sausage .... I always had a shitty character ... not only now ... I tore off pieces of paper on one side of the monument and managed to say - we have democracy - you stick together, I tear off .... I don’t remember almost anything .... my little body was dragged home by classmates - there 5 minutes on foot, I lived on Ludo Gyros ... when the Lithuanians played enough .... lucky, survived and did not become a cripple .... mother cried .... I hate.

          In general, it is in Lithuania that there are very few Russian-speaking people and they don’t do the weather there. Such a byad.
          1. +2
            25 November 2013 00: 20
            Quote: smile
            In general, it is in Lithuania that there are very few Russian-speaking people and they don’t do the weather there. Such a byad.

            Welcome Smile, one must understand Lithuania is trying to build a mono-national state and "non-citizens" are not among the authorities' concerns.
            It’s just interesting how the Lithuanians will “sing” when the “undesirable element” - people from Africa, Arabs, Gypsies - starts to be forced out of the European Union ...
      8. luka095
        +1
        25 November 2013 00: 03
        It does not seem to you that you slightly, so to speak, distorted the cause and effect. Firstly, the treacherous invasion of the Wehrmacht led to casualties among the population of the USSR, and secondly, the action on the territory of the USSR of the "Ost" plan to destroy the population (I note that the Wehrmacht also participated in its implementation).
        As for the statements of the representative of the department of strategic (?) Communication of the Lithuanian army - so he is not the first to speak out about how long they will survive in the aggression ... But I wonder who is going to attack the poor thing?
    2. Aydar
      -18
      23 November 2013 08: 26
      So here, in a guerrilla war, "clean-up operations", executions, and hostage-taking are inevitable. What is not a reason for accusations of genocide of civilians, war crimes? And there, not far off, the creation of a united coalition of "good forces" to fight the "red-brown plague".
      1. +11
        23 November 2013 09: 33
        Do you really think that guerrilla warfare boils down to sweeps and hostages?
        on the contrary, the war is being waged for the minds of people, because practice shows where the local population ceases to support bandits or partisans as you like guerrilla warfare is rapidly waning.
        1. saramb
          +14
          23 November 2013 10: 57
          After the war, the USSR rebuilt the entire Baltic States-factories, hospitals, schools, etc. And there we are occupants. The entire Baltic States are a nation of prostitutes who rush about here.
          1. AVV
            +4
            23 November 2013 15: 43
            Then im in the geyrop just right !!!
    3. +17
      23 November 2013 09: 32
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Well, the tactics of these forest brothers are well known to us.

      All eight members of the Lithuanian Ground Forces will leave for the forests !!!
      Where will you catch them there in 30 days ??? request
      1. sasska
        +9
        23 November 2013 12: 06
        "cause confusion in the enemy's units, involve him in an asymmetric war"

        they will exhaust the enemy. smile
        and indeed, the enemy will simply be confused by the fact that they have been hungry in the forests for so long, and will be confused (well, they will feel sorry for the enemy) with the loss of their combat readiness.
        laughing

        Sorry for the sarcasm - boiling from this circus.
        1. +10
          23 November 2013 13: 17
          Lithuania has only one way to destroy the enemy army - let it die of laughter wassat
      2. +7
        23 November 2013 14: 35
        Quote: APASUS
        will go to the woods !!!


        the forest will not be there soon - after all, they decided to extract shale gas using animal technologies.
      3. 0
        24 November 2013 08: 46
        Quote: APASUS
        All eight members of the Lithuanian Ground Forces will leave for the forests !!!

        and what has the geyropa not yet cut down forests on stools?
    4. Turik
      +14
      23 November 2013 09: 56
      Do not be fools, you do not need any NKVD, aggression, if it comes from our country (which I strongly doubt), then sudden - the Baltic States is NATO.

      In the event of such a conflict, the small number of armed formations of the sprat powers will be destroyed even at places of permanent deployment - garrisons and military bases by missile strikes of salvo systems. Fortunately, the country is small and can be shot almost through and through. The advanced positions will be captured by special forces groups, which the Balts, with their mentality and fear of war, have nothing to oppose. And only then will the "Russian tank hordes" go.

      Therefore, there will be no asymmetric war, in any case there will be no one to lead it from Lithuania, the subsequent response actions of the alliance will be much more dangerous.
      1. +8
        23 November 2013 11: 32
        If we manage to avoid a nuclear war, we will break NATO. In this case, the "forest brothers" can not be opposed to the methods of the NKVD - a pair of helicopters with a set of sensors and tactical analyzers will knock out all "resistance" in the forests in ten days. The moose, of course, will suffer greatly ...
      2. sasska
        +10
        23 November 2013 12: 15
        amateur opinion:
        There are no military bases on the territory of Pro-Baltics, so NATO will not be particularly fired up over the death or capture of a small number of these unfortunate aborigines. Yes, they will start crying out protests and calling for a "talk about concepts" and - no more. not a region to start something serious. and it comes from history that these lard-potato republics have always been a bargaining chip in the "big guy games."
        and here, if Germans-Americans-Francs entered into the territory of the Pro-Baltic states begin to perish en masse - try to explain to the protesting population of these countries, what
        their citizens died in a foreign land.

        IMHO, no more.
      3. +8
        23 November 2013 13: 19
        oh well, if we go crazy and decide on this basis to seize Lithuania or even the entire sprotland, then the only asymmetric response to this disgrace from NATA will be her "phi" ...
        1. sasska
          +1
          23 November 2013 23: 24
          from the official NATO - yes, indistinct "chewing" on the state's rights to independence.
          a more real scenario would be with informal participation in the hostilities of private military companies.

          3T, so as not to jinx it.
          1. +2
            24 November 2013 01: 15
            Quote: sasska
            a more real scenario would be with informal participation in the hostilities of private military companies.

            and who will pay for this picnic?

            No, well, I understand there, Iraq, Afghanistan (oil and uranium), but what is so valuable in sprotland so that you can pay for participation in a blackwater? sprats?
            1. 0
              24 November 2013 08: 51
              Quote: DanaF1
              no, well, I understand there, Iraq, Afghanistan (oil and uranium), but what is so valuable in spratland that you can pay for participation in a blackwater? sprats

              and from there they just pump human material, these are the donors of Europe. One civilized camp. camp
              1. 0
                24 November 2013 14: 30
                Quote: hert
                and from there they just pump human material, these are the donors of Europe. One civilized camp. camp

                yes, but firstly, it can be replaced by someone else, and secondly, I don’t think that the EU will pay the states for the security of the sproutland ...
    5. +4
      23 November 2013 11: 17
      Yes, who will fight with them at all under their tune, all of Europe lives in their capitals, by throwing a couple of vacuum bombs on Vilnius, for example, and the whole problem is solved, we don’t even have such thoughts to conquer anyone, we will arrange a haemorrhage for them and they ourselves they exhaust each other, Europe will gobble up itself as they are not a single state and even with a bunch of disagreements.
    6. +2
      23 November 2013 11: 26
      Oh yes or even easier, a lightning war, when they don’t have time to leave breakfast, and already the entire infrastructure is under control)
    7. +2
      23 November 2013 14: 34
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Therefore, it is necessary to act in the fight against them with the old proven methods of the NKVD.


      there is another effective method - not to buy anything, they themselves will give up.

      I’m different funny, they really think that someone will fit for them?
    8. waisson
      0
      23 November 2013 18: 51
      and they don’t know other tactics
    9. +7
      23 November 2013 20: 20
      I completely agree !!! After the capture of Konigsberg, my father, together with the regiment, was sent from the infantry to the border troops and to Lithuania to fight these "forest brothers". He said that sometimes it was worse there than at the front. In the war, the enemy was known - the Nazis, but here - he treats you with milk during the day, swears friendship, and at night stealthily stick a knife in your side. Or at night they will send women in their wooden boots, they knock like a cavalry division, and themselves, the forest brothers, under the guise of attacking the outfits. They slaughtered everyone indiscriminately, both soldiers and officers' wives if they came across, and even children, and their own who helped the troops. Probably they are talking about such an "asymmetric" defense.
      1. tooth46
        +4
        23 November 2013 21: 29
        My late father-in-law Vasily Osipovich Belko, who stormed Königsberg and then served in Lithuania for 30 years, described events there in much the same way.
    10. 0
      24 November 2013 14: 13
      I remembered an anecdote on the topic, "quietly wrap yourself in a sheet and crawl to the nearest cemetery," this is the Lithuanian Armed Forces.
    11. 0
      25 November 2013 08: 46
      No matter what forum users turned around here, but it didn’t occur to the horse that Russia would not intrude there. After a few years, they will cease to exist as a nation.
  2. +13
    23 November 2013 07: 35
    30 days of self-defense)))) Well, I do not know right, well, maybe from some island nation, and even then, as long as they swim ...
    1. +24
      23 November 2013 07: 37
      Quote: scorpido
      30 days of self defense))))

      There is written. There is a plan B. The essence of the plan is dumped in the forest and sit for 30 days in caches, food and water, just enough for this time. Then we go out and surrender laughing
      1. +2
        23 November 2013 07: 42
        Quote: scorpido
        30 days of self-defense)))) Well, I don’t know directly, well, maybe from some kind of island state

        If only Lithuania will attack.
      2. Aydar
        +2
        23 November 2013 08: 22
        The point is that in 30 days Poland, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic and other "third echelon countries" mobilize troops. Directly the United States, Britain and other countries of the "first echelon" in the NATO ranking will not interfere, as it is fraught with global conflict, but it is possible to set a pack of "hounds" on a bear.
        1. +13
          23 November 2013 09: 28
          Quote: Aydar
          The bottom line is to mobilize troops in 30 days from Poland, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech Republic and other "third echelon countries"

          If such a mess ensues, then who will give them 30 days to mobilize? The matter will go on watch.
          And although Russia is not the USSR, and in three days our tanks will not be able to keep up with LaMansh, they will reach Poland and Romania in any way.
          So in vain the Balts amuse themselves ... They won’t even have time to really wake up, if that.
          1. Hudo
            +8
            23 November 2013 09: 43
            Quote: tungus
            They won’t even have time to wake up, if that.


            Wake up, maybe they will have time. But here to get off the handbrake - but not in vain!
          2. -1
            23 November 2013 13: 24
            why tanks?
            Iskanders are always ready ...
            1. +5
              23 November 2013 15: 33
              Quote: DanaF1
              why tanks?
              Iskanders are always ready ...

              As one American general used to say:
              -bombed territory of the enemy is not a victory. The territory is considered captured only when the eggs of your infantryman hang over it.
              And he was right! So without tanks, no way.
              1. +1
                23 November 2013 18: 10
                Quote: tungus
                As one American general used to say:
                -bombed territory of the enemy is not a victory. The territory is considered captured only when the eggs of your infantryman hang over it.
                And he was right! So without tanks, no way.

                then you can and tanks ... on ironed territory, and first stripping from the air ...
        2. +5
          23 November 2013 13: 53
          You would at least compare the military potentials or something, It's not "hounds" for a bear, but ants on an elephant.
      3. +4
        23 November 2013 09: 20
        Dump the essence of the plan into the forest and sit out for 30 days in caches

        What caches? I see the miners in the picture. Leave off in the mine.
      4. +6
        23 November 2013 11: 51
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        have a plan B.

        "Katz offers to surrender" (c)
      5. +11
        23 November 2013 14: 41
        Plan B is a monstrous, inhuman plan. First, exhaust the enemy by random flight, and then finally demoralize him with unconditional surrender. laughing
      6. 0
        25 November 2013 03: 15
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There is written. There is a plan B. The essence of the plan is dumped in the forest and sit for 30 days in caches, food and water, just enough for this time. Then we go out and surrender

        But they know, bastards, that Russia will not go into the Baltic states without good reason.
        And the basis for this can only be a threat to the existence of the Russian state.
        This means that you first need to do something out of the ordinary, and then you can go into the "blank defense".
        Even if Western partners are unable to (do not want to) help, you can always give up and count on Russian mercy ...
    2. +9
      23 November 2013 07: 49
      But by and large, but who needs them.
      1. +1
        24 November 2013 08: 57
        Quote: Edward72
        But by and large, but who needs them

        it’s empty there, Europe, in its best slaveholding traditions, destroys the entire infrastructure and takes the population to the plots
    3. +5
      23 November 2013 08: 08
      Quote: scorpido
      Well, I don’t know directly, well, maybe from some kind of island state,
      Against the hockey team if only
      1. +10
        23 November 2013 13: 26
        Quote: bomg.77
        Against the hockey team if only


        "during the biathlon world championship, members of the German national team accidentally took over Poland" bully
  3. +18
    23 November 2013 07: 36
    Representative of the Strategic Communication Department of the Lithuanian Army Colonel-Lieutenant Arturas Jasinskas

    What title is interesting, but does the ensign general in the Lithuanian army have?
    And something was silent about the tank, how could a defense be held without a tank for a month?
    1. +16
      23 November 2013 07: 42
      Quote: major071
      And something was silent about the tank

      The tank will participate in the attack on Moscow laughing
      1. +10
        23 November 2013 12: 03
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The tank will participate in the attack on Moscow
    2. +12
      23 November 2013 09: 20
      Quote: major071
      What title is interesting, but does the ensign general in the Lithuanian army have?

      This interesting title "Lieutenant Colonel" is a slavish translation of either the English Lieutenant Colonel, or the German Oberstleutnant. Correct translation: "lieutenant colonel".
      wassat
    3. +5
      23 November 2013 12: 23
      Quote: major071
      What title is interesting, but does the ensign general in the Lithuanian army have?

      being in Hindu, I had to work closely with theirs naval. there was such a lieutenant-commander. I thought for a long time that a starley or an extreme drop was our way. then he could not stand it, he asked the translator: "translate into ours." it turned out capdva
    4. vkrav
      +5
      23 November 2013 12: 54
      Quote: major071
      Is there a warrant officer general in the Lithuanian army?

      It’s not a kind of condo ... We had a case here, Yushch assigned one type of Afghans (corporal, on an urgent basis) the rank of Major General of the reserve .. His name is - Corporal General.
    5. +2
      23 November 2013 20: 13
      Quote: major071
      What title is interesting, but does the ensign general in the Lithuanian army have?

      These are special titles for the Baltic tigers. In the NATO army, his rank is lieutenant. But in the powerful Lithuanian armed forces he is a colonel. He would have been an Estonian general.
  4. makarov
    +17
    23 November 2013 07: 38
    "... but added that there is a so-called plan B ..."

    Plan "B" includes the organization of meetings by the local command and control bodies of the enemy troops with bread, salt, vodka, sausages, and other products. So that the enemy troops, eating abundant food, make long stops. It is in this way that the swiftness of the offensive will be thwarted. Local farmers under Plan B must immediately slaughter all geese, pigs and cattle in order to make as much food as possible ...
    1. vkrav
      +9
      23 November 2013 12: 57
      I just wanted to write that the main tactic is to surrender immediately to the whole republic and demand humanitarian assistance laughing
  5. Lesnik
    +13
    23 November 2013 07: 39
    Asymmetric warfare on the Latvian theater? IT IS NOT EVEN FUNNY

    And 30 days is quite real laughing
    While they understand, while they are gathering, while they are dressed, while they are dressed up, while they receive small arms, while they are driving the only tank, while they leave the park, while they agree with the forester to let them in the woods, you’ll see 30 days wassat
    1. +18
      23 November 2013 11: 23
      "for now, agree with the forester to let him into the forest"
      A forester is power !!! laughing
      From the partisan diary:
      Monday. We fight for the hut of the forester. We bear losses, we retreat.
      Tuesday. We are fighting for the hut. We have captured, defended.
      Wednesday. We fight for the hut of the forester. We bear losses, we run into the forest.
      Thursday. With the last effort we release the forester's hut !!!
      Friday. The Forester came, he dispersed everyone to xp * n.
      1. +1
        23 November 2013 15: 28
        Standings, 5 +++++++++++. Cool! Cheered up!
  6. +3
    23 November 2013 07: 40
    I don’t think that they are more militant than Georgians, although they are more disciplined, therefore they will not last three days, but four days.
    1. +11
      23 November 2013 07: 45
      Quote: bomg.77
      , therefore, not three days, but four.

      Four days??? Yes, these brakes lasted at least a day.
      1. +11
        23 November 2013 07: 53
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Four days??? Yes, these brakes lasted at least a day.
        Alexander give them at least hope for four days laughing they prepared so much laughing
        1. +7
          23 November 2013 08: 07
          Quote: bomg.77
          Alexander give them at least hope for four days

          Yes, I give, four days for training in connection with the beginning of the warriors and a day for the warrior herself, and even five days laughing
          1. +1
            23 November 2013 10: 30
            Why? There’s an interesting question. Who believes that the situation is possible on 22/06 1941? An unexpected attack? Lithuania will receive reinforcements from NATO even at the stage of escalation of the conflict. Moreover, even now, fighters of other NATO countries are guarding the airspace of the Baltic states.
            1. +3
              23 November 2013 12: 38
              October 1938 and the Czechoslovak version are possible, it all depends on the general political situation. The probability of June 22 tends to zero, it is "real" in fevered brains like you, so as not to write everything against Russia. Where does all this come from? What's bothering you all the time? Probably decided to join the liberation army.
              1. +1
                23 November 2013 13: 31
                Quote: Orik
                she is "real" in fevered brains like you,

                By the way, can you bring a chain of logical conclusions flashed in your inflamed brain that led you to this conclusion? If you knew how not only to read but also to analyze what you read, you would probably be able to understand that I just do not consider possible a surprise attack, nor Anschluss - therefore, there is no particular sense in discussing how much Lithuania will last alone.
                Quote: Orik
                Probably decided to join the liberation army

                I will have to enter.
                1. +6
                  23 November 2013 14: 07
                  Yes, they will surrender them, to whom the hunt for a nuclear war for the sake of these cranks to start? Only nobody needs them.
                2. +3
                  23 November 2013 14: 55
                  Quote: Kars
                  I just do not consider it possible not a surprise attack, not an Anschluss - therefore, there is no point in reasoning about how long Lithuania will last.

                  Then I apologize, I misunderstood. But the question remains, where does the constant opposition to Russia come from? We are one people and three different states, this is a misunderstanding that must be corrected! What "liberation" army are you going to join? Why all this ambition?
                  1. +1
                    23 November 2013 17: 40
                    Quote: Orik
                    where is the opposition of Russia constantly

                    And whom? And is it in this thread that I contrasted someone?
                    Quote: Orik
                    We are one people and three different states are a misunderstanding,

                    I do not think so.
                    Quote: Orik
                    What "liberation" army are you going to join?

                    Have you asked about Coca?
                    Quote: Orik
                    Probably decided to join the liberation army.

                    ?
                    Moreover, nothing interferes with how to insert an article on how much Ukraine will maintain against XXXX.
                    1. +2
                      23 November 2013 20: 24
                      Quote: Orik
                      We are one people and three different states are a misunderstanding,

                      I do not think so.

                      Now everything is clear, the rest is a consequence. I wonder why, well, if not difficult.
                      1. +1
                        23 November 2013 20: 31
                        Quote: Orik
                        Now everything is clear

                        Did I say anything else before?
                        Quote: Orik
                        I wonder why, well, if not difficult.

                        Yes, not really. There are Russians, there are Ukrainians. You just want ka-tsapi and hokh --- ly.
                        Pomnitsa as a maternal grandmother called her paternal grandfather Katz - odorous)) and it was from the time of Soviet internationalism.
                        It is interesting, but for you, for example, the British, Irish, Scots are also one people?
                      2. +4
                        24 November 2013 12: 33
                        Quote: Kars
                        Yes, not really. There are Russians, there are Ukrainians. You just want ka-tsapi and hokh --- ly. Pomnitsa as a maternal grandmother called her paternal grandfather Katz - odorous)) and it was from the time of Soviet internationalism.

                        This does not prove that we are not a single people. The family may be different, but it remains one, as we remain one people. So why?
                        Quote: Kars
                        It is interesting, but for you, for example, the British, Irish, Scots are also one people?

                        The example is not true, laziness to write in detail, but these are initially different peoples in relation to English statehood. Ancient Picts, Shavers and cattle are Celts, the territory of Britons was captured by the Romans, then in the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries the Angles, Saxons, Utes came from the Germans, then the Franco-Norman conquest in the XNUMXth century. At the same time, Picts-Scots and Irish cattle for a long time, until XII-XIII, were free until they were conquered by the British, who are a mixture of Britons, Romans, Germans, Franks, Normans, generally international and globalists. smile
                      3. +1
                        24 November 2013 12: 42
                        Quote: Orik
                        This does not prove that we are not a single people

                        And I was not going to prove anything. There is a fact that they distinguish something like that.
                        Quote: Orik
                        At the same time, Picts-Scots and Irish cattle for a long time, until XII-XIII, were free until the British conquered them,

                        But I don’t distinguish between them. Put the Scots, the Irish, the Englishman the same.
                        Quote: Orik
                        . The family may be different, but it remains one, as we remain one people. So why?

                        And why did you get the idea that FAMILY is one thing? Especially in the national context? For that matter, I can say that after 70 years of the USSR, nationalities have been washed and it’s hard to find pure representatives. Therefore, it’s basically a conscious choice of a person who to be. Therefore, relatives, neighbors and no more.
                      4. +2
                        24 November 2013 15: 01
                        Quote: Kars
                        And I was not going to prove anything. There is a fact that they distinguish something like that.

                        Quote: Kars
                        But I don’t distinguish between them. Put the Scots, the Irish, the Englishman the same.

                        You decide on the "facts", even Caucasians are called Russians behind the cordon. Just as you do not distinguish between the English, so do others of us.
                        Quote: Kars
                        And why did you get the idea that FAMILY is one thing? Especially in the national context? For that matter, I can say that after 70 years of the USSR, nationalities have been washed and it’s hard to find pure representatives. Therefore, it’s basically a conscious choice of a person who to be. Therefore, relatives, neighbors and no more.

                        What does it have to do with it? What did you choose and why? Who do you want to be? Look what a sad sight you are. Able to be only against, but not able to explain their pros. Only loosely connected remarks "Mom said", "I'm not going to prove", the inability to describe "who to be". Sheer intellectual poverty and emptiness.
                        Enemies and scum, with the aim of their own dominance, with the help of mass media play on pride, conceit such as you, to divide and rule. Your empty ambition is only a consequence of these games. All done.
                      5. +1
                        24 November 2013 15: 12
                        Quote: Orik
                        You decide on the "facts"

                        I have already decided, and for a long time.

                        Quote: Orik
                        even Caucasians are called Russians behind the cordon.

                        In the old action movies of the Cold War?
                        Quote: Orik
                        Just as you do not distinguish between the British, so are others of us.

                        You see, you wrote the British, not the Scots from the British.
                        Quote: Orik
                        And what do you mean?

                        And this is the leybatim.
                        Quote: Orik
                        What did you choose and why

                        That I am Ukrainian, and the question is why there’s nothing to it)))

                        Quote: Orik
                        Who do you want to be?

                        I already have, and I am completely satisfied with myself.
                        Quote: Orik
                        Look what a sad sight you are.
                        It may well be in your imagination, but what do I care about your imagination?

                        Quote: Orik
                        Able to be only against, but not able to explain their pros.

                        You know me too poorly. Yes, and there are no special explanations for you, a set of stamps. Only for some reason Ukraine was. There will be.

                        Quote: Orik
                        Only loosely coupled remarks "Mom said", "I'm not going to prove", inability to describe "who to be"

                        strangely thought the Great Russians had more respect for their parents and ancestors. Do not be nervous, otherwise you will become ridiculous in your fanaticism.
                        Quote: Orik
                        Continuous intellectual poverty and emptiness.

                        against the background of what? you? can you prove it somehow? You have a mantra - one people, but even people from the USSR and far from politics did not accept it, and not somewhere in Galicia, but in the Zaporozhye region.
                        Quote: Orik
                        Enemies and scum, with the aim of their own dominance, with the help of mass media play on pride, conceit such as you, to divide and rule
                        Are you free under Putin or something? And it looks more like someone has little power on your part, and he zombies people like you who are not particularly intelligent people, but who are easily suggested, and who care about their pride.

                        Quote: Orik
                        Your empty ambition is only a consequence of these games. All done.
                        Why is my ambition empty? I'll say what's yours.

                        As you wish. I haven’t received anything particularly interesting or unexpected from you. Well, besides the fact that you are very biased, and self-conceit is wounded. And one thing in your mind is that someone hurts Russia.
                3. +3
                  24 November 2013 09: 03
                  Quote: Kars
                  I will have to enter

                  oh whether the heels will sparkle
                  1. +1
                    24 November 2013 10: 53
                    Quote: hert
                    oh whether the heels will sparkle

                    No need to measure others on their own.
            2. +1
              23 November 2013 13: 33
              Quote: Kars
              Who believes that a situation of 22 06 1941 is possible? An unexpected attack?

              to attack a nuclear power that has been sitting in a trench for 13 years? brilliant! fool
              1. +1
                23 November 2013 17: 42
                Quote: DanaF1
                to attack a nuclear power that has been sitting in a trench for 13 years? brilliant!

                You read the text brilliantly. Or do you think the situation on 22/06 1941 can only be in the format of an attack on the Russian Federation? And you can’t look at other options? Well, will Finland decide to attack the Baltic states? Or the Russian Federation?
                1. +4
                  23 November 2013 18: 12
                  Quote: Kars
                  Or do you think the situation 22 06 1941 can only be in the format of an attack on the Russian Federation? And you can’t look at other options? Well, will Finland decide to attack the Baltic states? Or the Russian Federation?

                  Well, given that this is the date of the attack on us, then your text is interpreted very clearly ... and there is nothing to crawl now ...
            3. +5
              23 November 2013 19: 48
              Quote: Kars
              Lithuania will receive reinforcements from NATO at the stage of escalation of the conflict

              What other "escolation"? There is a Pskov airborne division nearby and it will not take a day as all the Lithuanian "professionals" will be captured right in their barracks. To whom and where will NATO send reinforcements? A Lithuanian grandfather's village?
              1. +1
                23 November 2013 20: 29
                Quote: bistrov.
                Nearby is the Pskov airborne division and a day will not pass

                So tomorrow morning Putin will get up on the wrong foot and the Pskov paratroopers will jump onto BMD? And they will trample? Will they create an act of overt aggression against a sovereign state?
                Quote: DanaF1
                what is the date of the attack on us

                What date is right for you to identify a surprise attack? Pearl Harbor?
                Quote: DanaF1
                and there’s nothing to crawl now.

                laughing
                1. Fedya
                  +1
                  23 November 2013 22: 33
                  March 11, an interesting date for them!
                2. +4
                  24 November 2013 01: 30
                  Quote: Kars
                  So tomorrow morning Putin will get up on the wrong foot and the Pskov paratroopers will jump onto BMD? And they will trample? Will they create an act of overt aggression against a sovereign state?

                  and if so, then what? who will stop them? maybe there are volunteers?

                  all these plans of repelling the aggression of the "authoritarian state" just drank the dough and an attempt to show their need ...

                  It reminds me of the scenario of the Russian attack on Finland, published by 3 a year ago in a newspaper ... I quote an excerpt:
                  "The script was prepared by some military experts. They painted the details of possible hostilities in all details and colors. The beginning of the fictitious war was the hit of a Russian cruise missile in the broadcasting center of the Finnish TV and radio company in Helsinki. Further, the publication notes that television broadcasting in Finland stops and chaos begins.
                  Read more here: http://ru.tsn.ua/svit/v-finlyandii-opublikovali-stsenarii-voiny-s-rossiei.html "
                  according to this scenario, one single question was asked: "why do you think that Russia has only one missile?"
                  1. +1
                    24 November 2013 10: 56
                    Quote: DanaF1
                    and if so, then what? who will stop them? maybe there are volunteers?

                    But I personally do not believe in if and so. Although Russia probably does not tolerate becoming North Korea?
                    Quote: DanaF1
                    all these plans of repelling the aggression of the "authoritarian state" just drank the dough and an attempt to show their need ...

                    But what is easier to come up with something that would not be possible to saw the loot?

                    It is a pity that they did not answer about a suitable date with which a sudden attack can be associated.
                    1. +1
                      24 November 2013 14: 33
                      Quote: Kars
                      It is a pity that they did not answer about a suitable date with which a sudden attack can be associated.

                      What about the August 6 1945 of the year?
                  2. +2
                    24 November 2013 20: 23
                    Danafxnumx
                    Olga, you are a great smart girl. Reading your comments is just nice. In general, I am surprised that there are women on the site ...... But those that are are ALL PRESENT. I’m sorry that Kars hid from me in the black list, and I can’t support you in the debate. Therefore, I confine myself to this sincere praise. Sorry, I could not limit myself to a plus sign :))))
                    1. +1
                      25 November 2013 00: 17
                      Thank you very much Vladimir!
                      1. +1
                        25 November 2013 01: 31
                        Danafxnumx
                        Thank you, of course ... but you are a smart girl, regardless of the recognition of your services to colleagues .... including me ..... especially. that the colleagues are different .... Olga ... it is very nice to see you on the site ...... everything, I'm running away :))))
              2. 0
                24 November 2013 20: 11
                bistrov.
                If we are talking about the Lithuanians, then what is in the Kaliningrad region is enough to destroy the armies of all the Baltic states with interest ... they won’t even need Pskoskys - we have our own pride .... :))
                Recently I talked with a Lithuanian comrade in the gym, a military man, we think we’re older .... in the iron wolves .... I want to say that even an ordinary marine from Baltiysk will give him a head start ..... the guy is good, respectful, special I didn’t make claims to the Russians ... scolded my rulers .... but, pepper is clear, there will be an order, he will go to fight with us ... only he really doesn’t want this ... :)))) in his opinion we are so big and strong, that ...... wallowing him on the carpet, I thought, oh, it would be nice if we really were the way they think about us ..... :))))
            4. Fedya
              0
              23 November 2013 22: 31
              How many of those exterminators? Maximum 10t, and then depending on which country they will send! And Labasses, two years ago, also drowned their training two in the swamp, when they tried to show off to the French!
      2. 0
        23 November 2013 13: 31
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Four days??? Yes, these brakes lasted at least a day

        against North Korea? maybe ... maybe ...
    2. +13
      23 November 2013 09: 32
      So after all, they have one combat mission: to lose the war to the Russians.
      Even under Gorbatov, the head of the delegation of either Lithuania or some other Baltic region to the Congress of People’s Deputies was asked what he would achieve.
      Head of delegation (D): We will ask for independence. And if not, we will ask for independence for 1 (in words: one) day.
      Correspondent (K): And what will you be in time in 1 day?
      G: Declare war on Russia.
      K: But they will defeat you in the rest of the day!
      G: That's the whole point. Russia defeated France, Germany, Finland, Japan, and see how they now live. We want that too.
  7. Alex 241
    +27
    23 November 2013 07: 44
    The morning was set. Laughing from the heart!
    1. +1
      23 November 2013 08: 36
      Quote: Alex 241
      The morning was set. Laughing from the heart!
      This is not special forces, but tinsmiths. laughing Hello sash hi that’s what I could do. Photo clickable.
    2. +5
      23 November 2013 08: 51
      Dear Alexander! hi

      He laughed at the groans. Mine flies with a question:
      - What hurts?.
      Showed your video. I looked and summarized:
      - Your favorite humorous "6 frames" with "Gorodok", how many topics can you collect from Lithuanians! They have the same asshole
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        1. sasska
          +4
          23 November 2013 12: 35
          lack of vitamins in childhood and wooden toys come around?
      2. sasska
        +11
        23 November 2013 12: 25
        not about Lithuania at all, but ...
        1. +6
          23 November 2013 18: 00
          sasska
          Gorgeous movie! Thank!
          It is unclear why there are so few pluses .... I recommend that everyone watch the cool song.
    3. +5
      23 November 2013 11: 04
      It is necessary to work with a head, with a run.
    4. Peaceful military
      +5
      23 November 2013 18: 06
      Quote: Alex 241
      The morning was set. Laughing from the heart!

      Is it something with something laughing good Thanks San! laughing
      1. +2
        23 November 2013 19: 23
        They know how to cheer up good
    5. +3
      23 November 2013 19: 11
      Quote: Alex 241
      He laughed heartily!

      Sanya, I barely managed to get to the toilet ...
      laughing
      good
  8. +6
    23 November 2013 07: 45
    I’m wondering: is this "lieutenant colonel" really so naive, or has he turned on the fool? What month? Two or three days at most. Well, unless they crawl out of the caches, they will hold out for a couple of weeks until they are smoked out.
  9. andruha70
    +7
    23 November 2013 07: 45
    Lithuanian military disclosed tactics of war in the event of an attack
    your ruff ... it seems like grown-up guys, but everyone is playing "war" fool
    1. +8
      23 November 2013 13: 12
      Quote: andruha70
      adult guys, and everyone is playing "war"

      Well, they have to show "work"! They are paid their salaries! And then there will be plan C, then D ... until the end of the alphabet. laughing
      1. +2
        23 November 2013 13: 19
        Quote: Egoza
        And then there will be plan C, then D ... and to the end of the alphabet.

        but the plan will be "jo"
      2. +4
        23 November 2013 14: 54
        100 defense plans. 99 run away and one hide. laughing
  10. predator.3
    +7
    23 November 2013 08: 00
    A spokesman for the Lithuanian army’s strategic communications department, Lieutenant Colonel Arturas Yasinskas, said Friday that the Lithuanian troops, if attacked, are ready to wage an asymmetrical war and wait for the Allied assistance for at least a month.


    The Poles in the 39th also waited for help from the Allies ....
  11. +13
    23 November 2013 08: 01
    "NATO will help us! I'll give you parabellum"
    I remember in the 30s Britain and France also threw a tooth that would help everyone and everything in the event of an attack by Germany ...

    So good luck to them, and do not crap from the sight of a real army.
  12. +6
    23 November 2013 08: 36
    This situation and statements reminds me of "Mowgli". There the jackal also behaved like that ...
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  14. +4
    23 November 2013 08: 45
    Do they really think that someone will attack them, even funny. Well, of course there is an option, for this they must first attack someone themselves.
    1. +2
      23 November 2013 13: 38
      shhh ... don't give an idea ...
      ours will die of laughter ...
      1. -5
        23 November 2013 22: 14
        Ours, God forbid memory, also died in the 1939 year. In Karelia, and also from laughter, right?
        1. +1
          24 November 2013 01: 19
          Quote: atesterev
          Ours, God forbid memory, also died in the 1939 year. In Karelia, and also from laughter, right?

          not really the second Mannerheim showed up in spratland?
  15. +5
    23 November 2013 08: 59
    Why are our smaller brothers talking about war one after another?
    They fed and watered them, apparently not for the future.
    Again, for no reason, the mongrel does not bark - it works out feeding (but for another owner).
  16. +7
    23 November 2013 08: 59
    Representatives of the army noted that the biggest threats come from states with an authoritarian regime.
    Are they hinting at the DPRK?
    Do not depreciate yourself. We would have to defend ourselves to the last drop of enemy blood
    I'm crying fool
    1. +9
      23 November 2013 09: 16
      The Georgian army lasted 4 days, well, the "army" of Lithuania ........... well, probably at most 4 minutes ........ to throw out the white flag laughing

      1. +5
        23 November 2013 09: 54
        Quote: Apollon
        The Georgian army lasted 4 days, well, the "army" of Lithuania ........... well, probably at most 4 minutes ........ to throw out the white flag laughing

        And where is the second half of the army? belay
      2. HAM
        +6
        23 November 2013 10: 14
        Something more like prisoners!
      3. +5
        23 November 2013 11: 46
        Quote: Apollon
        .. to throw a white flag

        Something similar to our disbatians laughing
      4. +1
        23 November 2013 19: 27
        future policemen and overseers need to know in person, the video is muddy, as they themselves
      5. 0
        23 November 2013 20: 36
        Quote: Apollon
        The Georgian army lasted 4 days, well, the "army" of Lithuania ........... well, probably at most 4 minutes ........ to throw out the white flag

        At least I belong to the Lithuanian army with irony. But if you wish, they will be able to hold out in the same Riga for a month. Americans in in Iraq, a much smaller town (uh ... forgot the name) could not take 2 weeks. Yes, and Grozny should not be forgotten ...
        After the war, 08.08.08, the Minister of Defense of some of the Baltic countries, said that they could stop Russia by blowing up all the bridges. Then he was advised to do this in advance, just in case ... smile
        1. +2
          23 November 2013 20: 53
          Quote: Russ69
          At least I belong to the Lithuanian army with irony.

          Good evening hiThe question is whether there is an army that is full in the literal sense of the word.
          Quote: Russ69
          But if you wish, they will be able to hold out in the same Riga for a month.

          official Vilnius knows very well that no one is going to attack Lithuania. A statement from the department representative, a simple PR and a reminder to NATO that they exist. Apparently they were forgotten about in the North Atlantic bloc. laughing
  17. HAM
    +5
    23 November 2013 09: 33
    Latvia and Poland will attack Lithuania, ....
  18. +4
    23 November 2013 09: 36
    Once upon a time in the world there was such a strong state as the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. This is an Eastern European state that existed from the middle of the XIII century to 1795 in the territory of modern Belarus, as well as partially in Ukraine, Russia, Latvia, Poland, Lithuania, Estonia and Moldova. It was then that weakened Russia lost part of its ancestral lands in the west, and this very Grand Duchy of Lithuania began to hang over it, and then Poland. We, Russia, have spent more than three centuries (before Bohdan Khmelnitsky) to get rid of an aggressive neighbor and return the Russian lands, reuniting a large part of the people (and after another century completely eliminating Poland - at the request of the German comrades). And then for almost three and a half centuries, the Russian people lived in one state. And today we were one step away from not being in the situation of the mid-18th century again, when Ukraine almost signed a document on integration with the EU in Vilnius (Lithuania). Meanwhile, the battle for Ukraine is part of the millennial confrontation between Russia and Europe. And if this did not happen, and Ukraine would fall under Europe, then I see nothing funny in the words of this strange colonel lieutenant.
  19. +5
    23 November 2013 09: 48
    yes guys you will heroically hold on for a month, and then at the head of the combined forces NATO will be the first to enter Moscow and hoist the flag on the Kremlin. They probably played computer strategies, or they smoke something together, I don’t see any other explanation. This is paranoia sleeping and they see that they are being attacked, but whoever needs the remnants of their valiant army, they too will soon go to Europe to work as janitors, and their general or colonel will give orders to the plastic soldiers to hold on for 30 days laughing
  20. +6
    23 November 2013 09: 55
    “The goal of our armed forces would be to cause confusion in enemy units, to engage him in an asymmetrical war. As a result, 30 days of self-defense would be real, ”said Yasinskas.
    If you look at their "Armed Forces", there really will be confusion (first on the map find this formidable state and then also look for the army in the forests and bushes ..)))) laughing
  21. +2
    23 November 2013 10: 27
    Lithuania is afraid of the attack. But whom.

    Recently, this is not the first statement by the Lithuanian leadership about its readiness to repel aggression.
    But who will attack her.
    In Europe, in recent decades there has been a clear trend of disarmament. US withdraws its troops from the continent. Although Russia is modernizing the army, there are no aggressive intentions. This was confirmed by the latest West-2013 exercises, during which Russia and Belarus practiced military operations to localize and resolve internal conflicts.
    Who are the neighbors of Lithuania: Russia (Kaliningrad region), Belarus, Poland, Latvia.
    The Kaliningrad region is most likely an enclave of Russia with a purely defensive group, there are no tanks, aviation is only fighter, missile systems are old, the fleet is defensive. Iskander is a response to Poland’s agreement to deploy a US missile defense, but there are none.
    Belarus is also only a defensive army.
    So who, maybe Latvia, Poland, where there are former territories of Lithuania.
    Maybe Lithuania wants to move according to the Georgian variant, their actions very much resemble - PROVOCATION.
    Live with your neighbors in the world, solve your internal problems and ALL YOU WILL BE WELL.
    NO ONE IS GOING TO ANSWER TO YOU WHICH YOU NEED, EXCEPT YOURSELF, LIVE IN YOUR FORESTS.
  22. Unisonic
    +8
    23 November 2013 10: 43
    Plan of attack of Latvia on Russia:
  23. +2
    23 November 2013 10: 57
    They seriously think that someone will attack them. It’s a kind of conceit for the flawed ones.
  24. Stasi
    +4
    23 November 2013 11: 11
    They amuse themselves with the hope of standing for 30 days and holding out for 30 nights. And there, NATO will arrive. The history of these Chukhons does not teach anything. Poland was also promised protection from Hitler, France and England. But in fact, they threw it, none of the Western politicians raised a finger when the Germans swooped over the whole of Eastern Europe. So, in the event of a conflict, no NATO will defend the Chukhons, it’s afraid. NATO itself is aging and decrepit, to protect itself. But seriously, what is the point of Russia to seize the Baltic states? The Balts themselves do not have a clear and logical answer to this question. For the sake of access to the sea? It was conquered by Peter the Great from the Swedes. For the sake of minerals and resources that Russia does not have? Do not make me laugh. The only thing you can hear from the Balts is that Russia is obsessed with imperial ambitions and for this reason wants to conquer and annex the Baltic countries. We just dream of putting them back on our necks.
  25. Volodya Sibiryak
    +5
    23 November 2013 11: 25
    Like, I myself am weak, but I have a friend a boxer? Thanks for the article, it's nice to start the day with a smile!
  26. +4
    23 November 2013 11: 29
    I laughed yesterday with this article. Asymmetric warriors who firmly believe in the help of Nata laughing Do they really think that this Western gathering will rush to defend them in the event of any conflict? if only the Chukhons have a conflict with Iran or North Korea request
    1. Peaceful military
      +6
      23 November 2013 13: 01
      Quote: andrei332809
      I laughed yesterday with this article. Asymmetric warriors who firmly believe in the help of Nata laughing Do they really think that this Western gathering will rush to defend them in the event of any conflict? if only the Chukhons have a conflict with Iran or North Korea request

      Hi Andrew!
      They don’t believe, that's why they yell, because when a person screams something pleasant for himself from fear, it’s not so scary anymore. And it’s scary that so much shit has been heaped up against Russians and Russia, that the quantity runs the risk of developing into quality, and then ... The Finns and Swedes warned them at the beginning and even tried to pull and appeal to the owner, yet the general region is where there ... Something else will be.
      1. +1
        23 November 2013 13: 18
        Quote: Peaceful military
        Hi Andrew!

        healthy, namesake hi
        Quote: Peaceful military
        The Finns and the Swedes warned them at the beginning and even tried to pull

        wait, it just hasn’t reached yet laughing
  27. PiP
    +4
    23 November 2013 11: 41
    Representatives of the army noted that the biggest threats come from states with an authoritarian regime. (Read Belarus or Russia)))) According to them, in Lithuania there are 8 thousand professional military men and about 4,3 thousand volunteers. laughing
    Today Belarus has a 62-strong Armed Forces, including 000 military personnel and 48 civilian personnel. Such data, as reported by "Belorusskaya Voennaya Gazeta", was given on February 000 at a briefing for representatives of the military-diplomatic corps by the head of the group of the main operational directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces, Colonel Valery Reishel.
    Read more: http://news.tut.by/society/275705.html
    I generally keep quiet about the RA ... How do they (Lithuanians and others like them) imagine organizing resistance (partisans) in 30 days, if the "probable enemy" within 3-5 days seizes all important strategic objects (mail, telephone, telegraph wink )? Volunteers will go to the forests, while they form some formations, it will take another 10-15 days. The first operations (ambush, sabotage) will be developed again 3-5. If in the first clashes everyone does not die (reservists and militias who did not smell gunpowder and overgrown with fat). It turns out that in theory everything is beautiful ... and it works. But who told them that they would be allowed to leave the cities in the forests? Will they give you the opportunity to get weapons? After all, if a war is being prepared, then it begins not with the first shot, but some time before the start of hostilities. So plan "B" (We give up (s)) is the most correct one. wink
  28. Peaceful military
    +6
    23 November 2013 12: 55
    A month - they flatter themselves, ours give themselves a week, which is also flattery to themselves. blah, blah, blah about the "asymmetric war" - these are the same forest brothers, how they will act decomposing into the troops, and even more so the enemy's population is a lie to justify the wild military spending in their poverty, so that their population does not suit them asymmetric. Hence the endless hysteria of keeping the title members of the fear of the inevitable aggression of wild hordes riding on bears, etc. Hence the incredible persistence in imposing its territory and infrastructure as places of permanent basing of American forces. They portray something like that, but very sluggishly.
    1. +6
      23 November 2013 13: 02
      Quote: Peaceful military
      wild hordes riding bears

      and if you still wear a budenovka and swing a balalaika ... ooooh, how much panic will be
      1. Peaceful military
        +8
        23 November 2013 13: 09
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: Peaceful military
        wild hordes riding bears

        and if you still wear a budenovka and swing a balalaika ... ooooh, how much panic will be

        Yeah, and then the question is who will demoralize whom? wassat
        These individuals are absolutely divorced from reality. The Russian special forces, which are not numerous, have enormous experience in solving the problems of asymmetric fighters. The last case, relatively recently, the special forces of the Pskov paratroopers, completely undetected, got into the right place in Latvia and, I don’t remember exactly, stole or destroyed the monument to the Nazis, which they carefully photographed. There was a noise, but somehow it was very quiet and everything quickly subsided.
        1. maxvet
          +1
          23 November 2013 13: 30
          And you can read more hi
          1. Peaceful military
            +3
            23 November 2013 13: 57
            Quote: maxvet
            And you can read more hi


            Soloviev distorts, there was a thing, it was. In general, Solovyov contradicts himself, being both ours and yours.
            Type paratroopers and a monument to fascists in Latvia on Google.
      2. Peaceful military
        0
        23 November 2013 15: 43
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: Peaceful military
        wild hordes riding bears

        and if you still wear a budenovka and swing a balalaika ... ooooh, how much panic will be
        1. Peaceful military
          +1
          23 November 2013 16: 04
          I wanted a picture about the attack of the bear cavalry ... did not pass ... feel
          1. sasska
            +3
            24 November 2013 03: 42
            hold it, countryman
            1. Peaceful military
              0
              24 November 2013 10: 57
              Quote: sasska
              hold it, countryman

              Thank! Her very good soldier
  29. +5
    23 November 2013 12: 59
    In such a war, they no longer count on military power, but on resourcefulness in military strategy and tactics, the ability of the weaker side to strike the enemy with the least cost.
    I will begin, however, to collect their pearls, to cheer up in difficult times.
    1. +5
      23 November 2013 13: 46
      Quote: ole_ga
      In such a war, they no longer count on military power, but on resourcefulness in military strategy and tactics, the ability of the weaker side to strike the enemy with the least cost.
      I will begin, however, to collect their pearls, to cheer up in difficult times.

      The Lithuanian military is shy - for a month they may not all be caught, depending on how to hide.
  30. +2
    23 November 2013 13: 13
    The aim of our armed forces would be to cause confusion in parts of the enemy
    They go there like a half-army in mini-bikinis. So there’s a chance to cause confusion in the ranks of the enemy ...
    Yasinskas stressed several times that the main thing for Lithuania is to be able to wage an asymmetrical war, this requires mobile armament.
    I offer slingshots. You can’t imagine anything more mobile.
    Answering the question if Lithuania has a plan, how to defend itself against the enemy, if NATO partners do not come to the rescue, Yasinskas first excluded this possibility, but added that there is a so-called plan B.
    - instant surrender.
  31. +3
    23 November 2013 13: 37
    Article +, I read the truth earlier in the original source - neighing from the heart.
  32. Ivan Sirko
    -14
    23 November 2013 14: 03
    I also laughed heartily. Video 20 years ago.
    To humiliate the enemy does not mean to win.
    1. +3
      23 November 2013 15: 38
      Yes it is not what, the platoon of the Latvian musars with machine guns accepted four bukh Soldiers.
    2. +3
      23 November 2013 18: 32
      Quote: Ivan Sirko
      I also laughed heartily. Video 20 years ago.

      Real Latvian men smacked six drunken paratroopers with batons.
      Bravo !!
      In the evening, they probably received at least a cross with diamonds and a garter from the President ?!
      1. 0
        23 November 2013 18: 36
        Quote: APASUS
        President’s garter ?!

        But has she not yet given all her garters to homosexuals?
      2. Ivan Sirko
        -7
        23 November 2013 19: 00
        I don’t know what they got, but the pigs, though in vests, were stacked in piles and reassured. This was more than 20 years ago. Do you think they (the police) learned anything during this time?
        1. +2
          24 November 2013 14: 15
          Quote: Ivan Sirko
          I don’t know what they got, but the pigs, though in vests, were stacked in piles and reassured. This was more than 20 years ago. Do you think they (the police) learned anything during this time?

          What is there heroic, cool? Young boys specifically bzdely REPRESENTATIVES OF THE LAW therefore did not show resistance. What have you learned? - they didn’t know anything in the video. 33 times it was possible to hurt them, take away the assault rifles and shove them wherever they were used to, only unlike the policemen who are most likely to write off the excess, all the civil exploits go through the accumulative fault of their deeds.
  33. +8
    23 November 2013 14: 11
    Here we are laughing at the Balts by their army, etc. They are NATO countries and they are not prepared for defense or attack .... (just in case of aggression against Russia .. God forbid) they will go behind the lines like punitive detachments and that's it they’ll cut it out .. Poles of the Romanians, etc .. everything as usual .. So I think that in case of war these countries should be covered immediately (even to the detriment of other goals ..) these evil ones will not leave any of us alive ... (I apologize right away, I’m not talking about everyone .. and I don’t want to offend anyone .. it just happened! .. Russophobic hysteria has always been the main feature there ..) Just imagine .. and that's it ..
    1. +2
      23 November 2013 14: 16
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Here we are laughing at the Balts by their army, etc.

      their army, it turns out, is a holiday today. And the parade will probably be belay
      should be congratulated love
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  34. Peaceful military
    +5
    23 November 2013 14: 40
    The traditions of these "armies" stem from here
    1. +3
      23 November 2013 14: 59
      Quote: Peaceful military
      The traditions of these "armies" stem from here

      YES, FOR A LONG TIME THEIR TEUTONS IN THE "PERPENDICULAR"
      1. Peaceful military
        +6
        23 November 2013 15: 16
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: Peaceful military
        The traditions of these "armies" stem from here

        YES, FOR A LONG TIME THEIR TEUTONS IN THE "PERPENDICULAR"

        Here is the greatest aberration of consciousness. Estonians hated the Germans, who had bent them blackly, since time immemorial, flogged at the stables, used the right of the first night, forbidden to speak Estonian in cities, etc.
        After the sudden independence, the Estonians first of all expelled all the Germans from Estonia (!) But, ten years later, thanks to the efforts of the native of Revel A. Rosenberg, the "comrades" began a competent propaganda of the title, which from the point of view of true Aryans, the most exclusive on Earth, second, among they consider the Estonians to be equal. And these, with delight, "breath in the goiter" ... so much so that they still consider themselves as such. As we know, according to this theory, the Slavs are subhuman, this is the root of the dense Russophobia, as well as the historical insult that subhumans dared to defeat the supermen, and even take possession of them.
        1. +1
          23 November 2013 15: 21
          Quote: Peaceful military
          As we know, according to this theory, the Slavs are subhuman

          answer them that yes, from gods to humans we have not yet descended, therefore, are subhuman. let them spell thinking wink
      2. +3
        23 November 2013 15: 24
        We, too, like the Africans, tried to set them on the right path .. useless ..))) Well, as they say in the next call, we will take this into account .. (for the sake of the memory of WWII veterans who died there humiliated .. when they saw the SS walking again ...) in the throat..
    2. sasska
      +4
      24 November 2013 03: 57
      "at the parade in honor of the Independence Day (2006), Meelike Eenpuu-Willup appeared with a swastika earring"

      continuity of generations, cho
      1. Peaceful military
        +1
        24 November 2013 20: 13
        Quote: sasska
        "at the parade in honor of the Independence Day (2006), Meelike Eenpuu-Willup appeared with a swastika earring"

        continuity of generations, cho

        And remember Viizitam (a) (deputy head of the Center Party and the mayor of Pärnu), as he was on his birthday. in the restaurant he met everyone in Nazi uniform throwing up his hand, or Lang (a) (one of the leaders of the Fatherland Union party, Minister of Justice, Minister of Culture), as he celebrated his 5th anniversary in the restaurant, decorated it with Nazi flags and held a performance there " Adolf "... angry
  35. freedom2013
    +1
    23 November 2013 15: 17
    30 days of self defense - it would be real

    It is interesting how Estonia can resist the Pskov division. I would not be better off as the Minister of Defense, but I would be silent, and his words give too much reason for banter. Maybe I'm wrong - because it’s not Lithuanian.
  36. +5
    23 November 2013 16: 22
    Well, what, friends? The small but proud Baltic states also want to be paid attention to. laughing "Say, don't forget about us. We are here. We are on the map. We are also Europe ..." laughing wassat
    1. Lesnik
      +3
      23 November 2013 17: 36
      Quote: Chever
      Well, what, friends? The small but proud Baltic states also want to be paid attention to. laughing "Say, don't forget about us. We are here. We are on the map. We are also Europe ..." laughing wassat


      Reminded ..... loud BUNK from under the covers ..... laughing
      I especially liked the foreman (the only one for all Lithuanian "VS")
      “The last two threats are directed not only against the army, but also against society. Without him, the army alone will not be able to fight. Currently, the main task of the enemy is to break the will of society to resist, ”said foreman Thomas Cheponis.

      I .... cried crying
  37. +4
    23 November 2013 16: 28
    Lithuania is not Belarus. And hot Lithuanian guys are not Belarusian partisans. They want to live. In a comfortable EU. And do not die in the swamps for ghostly ideals. We will see. We will see.
  38. +2
    23 November 2013 17: 30
    Yes, never did these Baltic prostitutes know how to fight, and now they really can't
    live in Kaliningrad
  39. 0
    23 November 2013 19: 18
    and you look at their happy faces when our paratroopers were pushed into the paddy wagon, how did we independent Latvians finally beat the "damned occupiers" only the meaning of the occupants changed and also indicate, but apparently the prostitute likes to receive money for her work, but what will happen when They will not want her anymore and they will not give money, that they will eat grass, or they will say that we have always been together with RUSSIA.
  40. Leshka
    +1
    23 November 2013 21: 29
    watch the video on You Tube "How Estonia will attack Russia" neighing under the steel
  41. +3
    23 November 2013 21: 42
    Crowed. The main message of the message is that Lithuania is ready to fight. With whom? With Russia, of course. What for? For European values, of course! How will you fight? Partisan and count on the help of the Germans / Swedes / English. Not, well, what is normal, such a servile statement. But only in practice in the forests Russians have more experience ...
    1. Peaceful military
      +3
      24 November 2013 02: 55
      Quote: woland05
      Crowed. The main message of the message is that Lithuania is ready to fight. With whom? With Russia, of course. What for? For European values, of course! How will you fight? Partisan and count on the help of the Germans / Swedes / English. Not, well, what is normal, such a servile statement. But only in practice in the forests Russians have more experience ...

      No, the Swedes, like the Finns, fight back with arms and legs in happiness to be in NATO, because they understand that if something happens, they will be the first to go to the distribution. Although, they are not washed, so skating dragged into the alliance.
  42. lucidlook
    +3
    24 November 2013 02: 51
    Oh Mine Goth, NATO! What to do, they have tanks !!
    But excuse me, haven't they reduced them by 20 times since 1990? Let's take a closer look. Who is there to protect the "fighting to the last drop" of something there? Poland? 100 thousand military personnel in total, of which 72 thousand are in the ground forces. Germany? Roughly the same picture, only the total number of 185 thousand, but in the land again about the same. Who else is there? Belgium. Hmm, sir, let's not talk about sad things.

    For comparison, the personnel of only the internal troops of the Russian Federation is 180 thousand people.

    The picture would be incomplete without mentioning the simply "bestial" spirit, fervor and furious desire of NATO soldiers to shed their blood, no, it is better to fall heroically in an unequal battle with any enemy of victorious capitalism, democracy and homosexuality! wassat Yeah, reports from the battlefields are full of these examples (see Afghanistan, Iraq and others).
    1. sasska
      +3
      24 November 2013 04: 08
      (inscription on the formidable combat vehicle "Avenger")(inscription on the formidable combat vehicle "Avenger")

      (the inscription on the formidable combat vehicle "Avenger")
      1. Peaceful military
        +2
        24 November 2013 18: 01
        We are not afraid of Russia
        we have our own army
        thousand cyclists
        and in the port of a half-ship
        everything is serious at the borders
        not one will break through
        attack is impossible
        we will not give them visas wassat
      2. Peaceful military
        +2
        24 November 2013 19: 44
        Quote: sasska
        (the inscription on the formidable combat vehicle "Avenger")

        For people of my generation, the Estonian Tasuja Avenger was one of the holy names for VICTORY.
        There was a famous squadron with this name, in honor of it a lot of things were named, such as a stop total. transport, near which I lived for a long time, and the school that I graduated from was nearby.
        Squadron "Tasuja" ("Avenger")
        1. +1
          25 November 2013 00: 34
          Quote: Peaceful military
          Estonian Tasuja-Avenger, was one of the holy names for VICTORY.

          An interesting photo, I did not even know about the existence of such a unit in the Soviet Air Force.
          1. Peaceful military
            +2
            25 November 2013 02: 29
            Quote: Corsair
            Quote: Peaceful military
            Estonian Tasuja-Avenger, was one of the holy names for VICTORY.

            An interesting photo, I did not even know about the existence of such a unit in the Soviet Air Force.

            Believe me, there were a lot of things that rather bind us than disconnect. Normal title ones, and most of them, although taciturn, are not only understand, but feel, worry. Therefore, the titular fascists (on the command of the owner) and squeal incessantly to drown it.
            1. +1
              25 November 2013 05: 22
              Quote: Peaceful military
              Believe me, there were a lot of things that rather bind us than disconnect.

              Literally, everything you said about the Baltic countries can be directly, only with a change in name, can be attributed to Ukraine, my pain ...
            2. HAM
              +1
              25 November 2013 08: 34
              Yes, that's right. About Endel Pusep, too, they are silent, Hero of the Soviet Union, bombed Berlin in the 41st, a polar pilot, and, in addition, a Siberian and an Estonian!
  43. HAM
    0
    24 November 2013 09: 55
    Actually, Russia will attack them a lot, they were already under "occupation", what the hell we need are such, let Europe feed the idiots .. kov .., and they will do Europe when they stop giving them money.
    1. sapran
      +1
      24 November 2013 13: 07
      people are like people. excellent specialists intersected with the military (even with a sense of humor everything is in order) responsible.
      1. HAM
        +1
        24 November 2013 16: 16
        It is possible, but in the government, I would not say.
  44. HAM
    +2
    24 November 2013 10: 23
    And another small remark: such a valuable country that help can come only after 30 days, even though they understand how "valuable" they are to patrons.

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