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Kuzbass Baalbek

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This fall in Gornaya Shoria, found ruins of structures that change our usual ideas about stories Siberia, the newspaper Kuzbass. Mountain Shoria is a taiga region in the southern part of the Kemerovo region, at the junction of the Altai and the Sayans. Larisa Maksimenko, the author of an article in a regional newspaper, wonders: where did the wall of giant “bricks” come from at one of the peaks at an altitude of over a thousand meters?


ТОЛЩИНА a unique granite brick, she says, 7 meters, according to the participants of the expedition, its weight is about 2 thousand tons. That is, it is heavier than the “brick” of the famous Baalbek terrace in Lebanon! And in the masonry it turned out to be places up to the 12 rows of “bricks”, skillfully fitted to each other.

The first place in the discovery of a unique structure belongs to the Kuzbass geologist Vyacheslav Pochetyokin. Back in 1991, working in the South Kuzbass geological exploration expedition, he noticed an incomprehensible structure from a helicopter. And two years ago, despite his disability (Vyacheslav lost his legs due to frostbite in the taiga), he managed to find a mysterious giant wall from the ground.
Larisa Maksimenko gives such details regarding the findings. The expedition found two buildings made of a giant building material. First of all, this is the rest of the walls of the building. The height of the walls is up to 40 meters. "Bricks" fit together tightly. The walls intersect at right angles. Blocks were made, presumably, about 100 thousands of years ago.

In addition, in 700 meters from the first discovery - the rest is still some kind of structure. According to one of the versions of the participants of the expedition, this is the ancient accumulator of the energy of the Earth, something like a giant capacitor. After all, the structure is on the geological fault. The "power" vertical masonry with preserved ceilings. There are traces of some tools on the stones: stripes centimeters in 30, a lot of round holes with a diameter of 7, see

Among the enthusiasts who took up the study of photographs from the discovery site are Yevgeny Vertman, a nuclear physicist, deputy chairman of the Tomsk branch of the Russian Geographical Society. In his opinion, the buildings could build an ancient civilization. “Most likely, its representatives had other, incomprehensible to us and inaccessible technologies,” suggested Yevgeny Gustavovich. - Of course, there are questions: why did they erect the building, how did they manage to lift boulders on mountains above a thousand meters high? We have to answer all this. ”

“The technology of lifting such huge blocks to the mountain is unknown or lost,” he said. - Our scientists, having studied the shooting from the site, came to the input: the buildings in Gornaya Shoria were technically executed. The laying of blocks on each other was carried out without cement and mortar, as if the blocks were softened and stuck together. ”

AMONG The expedition participants were George Sidorov, a writer, a passionate explorer of the secrets of the past. Georgy Alekseevich is a very interesting person. Born in the Kemerovo region. By the father of the Don Cossack. Following the family tradition, Sidorov from childhood studied Cossack martial art. He graduated from the biology and soil faculty of Tomsk State University. He worked in the north of the Tyumen region in the State forest inspection.

During his travels in the north of Siberia, he repeatedly came across traces of an ancient stay in the high latitudes of fair-haired people; local narrators told him about them. As a result of his research, Sidorov came to the conclusion that relatively recently, approximately 2 – 3 was thousands of years BC - the whole north of Siberia was inhabited by a highly developed people for those times.

Another surprising discovery is connected with the fact that George Alekseevich, in his words, had a chance to meet in the forest jungles of the Russian North the keepers of the ancient tradition, hiding under the guise of the Old Believers. People who call themselves the descendants of the Chud white-eyed, or Siberian chaldon, showed them a researcher of the depository of ancient books and musical instruments ...

Recently, a researcher shared his thoughts on the value of a find in Mountain Shoria with Internet users. He expressed alarm at the fact that many artifacts that do not fit into the framework of well-established notions about the past of mankind, disappear from the museums of the world.

Sidorov recalled the Tisul find. According to him, in 1972, marble sarcophagi with people lying in an unknown fluid were raised from the depth of 70 meters from under the coal seam. He found out about this find by chance from an old woman from the village of Rzhavchik, who told how these sarcophagi were taken out under protection. According to geologists, the sarcophagi were buried about 800 a million years ago.

SOME YEARS back, writes Sidorov, to explore the ancient heritage of our ancestors on the territory of the Tomsk region was organized by a permanent search expedition. In the very first year of the expedition, on one of the Siberian rivers 2 solar temples and 4 settlements were discovered. It was possible to find fine ceramics with ancient Sumer ornaments on the temples and on the sites of ancient settlements.

In fact, local historians stumbled upon the ancestral home of the ancient Sumerians in the Middle Ob. If the Sumerians' ancestral homeland is actually open, it means that they come from the Siberian ethnic “cauldron”!

This year a small group of researchers with the participation of Sidorov went to the Mountain Shoria. “Why did we decide to visit this region? Therefore, - he points out, - that a number of familiar geologists have informed us that in the mountains at an altitude of 1.000 and more meters, the ancient ruins of a lost civilization rest, according to the mythology, the civilization of our ancestors.

Together with Kemerovo geologists, Sidorov managed to climb to the first artifact - a giant stone wall, built on top of a mountain. “What we saw is impossible to describe,” he emphasizes. “We were faced with a megalithic stack of blocks, some of which reached 20 meters in length and 6 meters in height. Of these bricks laid the foundation of the structure. Above were smaller blocks. But they were also striking in their mass and size. When we looked at the ruins, we saw on the parts of them traces of an obvious ancient melting. This discovery brought us to the thought of the destruction of the structure due to the powerful thermal effects. ”

Not only in the Mountain Shoria there are ruins - traces of the great distant past, says George Sidorov. As the researchers found out, exactly the same ruins, made of giant blocks, are found in the Altai, Sayan mountains, the Urals, the Verkhoyansk Range, Evenkia and even Chukotka.
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  1. Pinochet000
    Pinochet000 23 November 2013 08: 17
    +9
    Just wondering, how does the official story comment on this?
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 23 November 2013 08: 47
      +9
      No way. And they and we and the neighbors find a lot of interesting things.
      Although tales go quite a lot ...
    2. bomg.77
      bomg.77 23 November 2013 09: 48
      17
      Quote: Pinochet000
      Just wondering, how does the official story comment on this?
      I read a couple of years ago that when they invited foreign colleagues outside the Urals to the arch., Excavations, they recognized that this breaks the whole history of the development of mankind, but in a private conversation they admitted that no one will rewrite history.
      1. DimYang
        DimYang 23 November 2013 14: 53
        12
        But it’s time, not to rewrite, but to rethink.
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 23 November 2013 20: 16
          +6
          Quote: dimyan
          But it’s time, not to rewrite, but to rethink.
          It’s good that at least something is published about the finds. Historians and archaeologists themselves, in my opinion, do not quite understand how and what happened. Such finds not only puzzle us, but to a greater extent them.
        2. catapractic
          catapractic 25 November 2013 22: 35
          0
          in order to rethink archaeological data is not enough, but you have to deal with it and you need money and political will
      2. mnn_13
        mnn_13 23 November 2013 23: 15
        +6
        Nobody will rewrite, and above all, for the fact that our history is not older than 6-7 thousand years ago. All that with a prescription of 10 or 000 thousand years beyond the limit of historical thinking. Why this is so and why the obvious is not noticed - another and very big topic ...
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 24 November 2013 16: 47
          +1
          Quote: mnn_13
          All that with a prescription of 10 or 000 thousand years beyond the limit of historical thinking. Why this is so and why the obvious is not noticed - another and very big topic ...

          Let's just say that everything older than 10000 years is extremely difficult to research, too many details have been lost - well, there is a huge megalithic structure, so what? As it is correctly said, neither its purpose, nor the one who built it, nor even the construction technology is already almost impossible to find, you can get some interesting information, but unfortunately this is enough for a couple of articles, but you can’t do a dissertation from it, which for modern Scientists alas, the biggest stupor in the study of any topic! And that means no one will give a grant for such a study, alas (((
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 25 November 2013 00: 37
            +1
            These are most likely traces of the progressive activity of ancient ukrov before their damned maskals pushed aside wassat
        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 26 November 2013 17: 46
          0
          Quote: mnn_13
          First of all, for the fact that our history is not older than 6-7 thousand years ago.

          Calculate yourself 5508 + 2013 = 7521 from the "creation of the world".
          1. abdrah
            abdrah 31 January 2014 21: 22
            0
            11111mail.ru "Calculate yourself 5508 + 2013 = 7521 from the" creation of the world. "

            - Do not consider "creation" for blasphemy, but where, when the world was created, to enter the half-life of uranium 238 or thorium 232?
            Creation-
      3. tomket
        tomket 25 November 2013 22: 04
        0
        And you think someone will give up the temptation to become a discoverer ??? New Schliemann ???? Given the fact that almost all have already been dug up and dug up, and no discoveries are expected in the near future.
    3. Nayhas
      Nayhas 23 November 2013 10: 50
      +4
      Quote: Pinochet000
      Just wondering, how does the official story comment on this?

      And what can official history say? Never mind. These findings are an occasion for in-depth research, but no money is allocated for this.
      But the most interesting reaction will be among the Fomenkovites, they will instantly prove that the Slavs did this in the 10th century ...
      1. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris 23 November 2013 10: 55
        13
        Well ... Don’t mention the devil. But no one will give money for research. For this is not an olympiad. Explore a lot of things. For these places are inaccessible and sparsely populated. With the union climbed, searched, but only minerals. They found a lot of things, but kept quiet because it was fraught.
        1. Michael_59
          Michael_59 23 November 2013 15: 02
          +3
          Quote: anomalocaris
          Don't mind the devil

          And you remembered him in this connection? )))
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 23 November 2013 11: 58
        21
        Who should I give money to? Historians? What for? Most of them live well on grants, you know from whom, and they can only speak and "research" what they have ordered. Moreover, speeches and research results have been written to them for 50 years in advance.
        A smaller part has such intelligence that it does not even reach the grant ... But even if a miracle succeeds - to find an honest, qualified historian, what then? The tool of historians and archaeologists is poetry. They do not use analysis, mathematics or physics. Declare what they like as "historical fact" and what they don't like with lies. But what about all sorts of analyzes, even radiocarbon ones, you say? No way. If the result of the analysis can somehow be crammed into the historian's poetic concept, it is taken into account. It is impossible - it is ignored.
        An attempt to obtain as accurate data as possible with the help of historians has about the same chances as to knock out an answer in mathematics from Pushkin. Physicists, chemists, engineers and computer scientists should investigate truly important historical structures such as these. But first you need to create an organization for this, develop approaches and methods ... This is a work for many years and a lot of funds. Now there is no trace of anything like that, we just keep a horde of enemies and traitors, slightly diluted by honest poets, and we call it "our historical science." You can continue to thump money, but you don't have to wait for answers ...
        1. Aryan
          Aryan 23 November 2013 12: 53
          -14 qualifying.
          And they said that hemp does not grow in Taiga! laughing
          What ananamal zone they smoked! fellow
          1. anomalocaris
            anomalocaris 23 November 2013 13: 32
            13
            Baby, did you go to the taiga?
            I myself won’t go into a bunch of places, because I don’t give a shit about life. After a trip to the taiga, we will talk with you.
            1. Aryan
              Aryan 23 November 2013 20: 43
              -4
              laughing
              Quote: anomalocaris
              Baby, did you go to the taiga? I myself won’t go into a bunch of places, because I don’t give a shit about life. After a trip to the taiga, we will talk with you.


              Well, believe the stoned pseudo-scientists who call stone the brick of the ancient gods, granddaughter

              would google first
              1. Shinken
                Shinken 31 January 2014 20: 53
                0
                Apparently here some schoolchildren and housewives, having seen enough rents, can no longer think independently ... they probably weren’t even out of town, not so much in the mountains (((
                and who is talking about such places - poke on the map, take a photo / video where are they? as a rule, everything remains only on the words of unknown heroes
          2. skullcap
            skullcap 23 November 2013 22: 54
            +8

            Aryan (3)  Today, 12: 53
            And they said that hemp does not grow in Taiga!
            ----------------------------------------
            So to him, stupid, it is useless to explain that all historical science has long been written by Academician Schlozer, and everything else is from hemp.
            DOGS. By the way, what about the cannabis case in Moldova? They say, too zaboristaya. Once sniffed and immediately not a young man, but the ROMAN !!!
        2. Albert1988
          Albert1988 24 November 2013 16: 57
          0
          Well, it’s in vain that you are so direct about all scientists, in vain. There are some very worthy specialties now. Let me explain my point of view - there are really a lot of such "scientists" who work "on order", only they sit not in serious institutes and universities, but in special sharazh-installation offices specially created for this. And then what are "normal and serious academic historians"? And the main thing for them is to publish as many articles as possible in the journal with a higher citation index, and then it is natural to defend a thesis on this material and make a name, without this there is no way ... Therefore, most choose topics that are "convenient" for research, where to defend it is easy and not necessary to go anywhere, especially to such a distance. So many people are afraid to just take on such topics, and those who do are often not competent enough ...
          And yes, you are very right - many modern historians are very biased and give their preferences as the result of historical analysis: they don’t like, say, Peter the Great, but they like Fedor Alekseevich very much, and as a result, the great reformer gets mud, and the deceased early weak-willed monarch is being built almost to the rank of genius, it’s like an example ...
        3. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 26 November 2013 18: 02
          0
          Quote: Mikhail3
          The instrument of historians and archaeologists is poetry. They do not use any analysis.

          LN Gumilev in the book "In Search of the Fictional Kingdom", Chapter 1 perfectly describes the algorithm for the search for truth. Read his books, a lot is laid out on the Internet, you will not regret it if you are sincerely interested in HISTORY. I will not retell it, read it yourself ...
      3. Albert1988
        Albert1988 24 November 2013 16: 49
        +1
        Quote: Nayhas
        but see the money for this is not allocated.

        Alas, here you just hit the nail on the head - on such a study it is very difficult to make a decent candidate and especially a doctor’s, and you need so much money for such studies - places are hard to reach! So no one invests in a risky project (
    4. Rif
      Rif 23 November 2013 13: 19
      11
      Official science from the Russian Academy of Sciences considers the regions of Siberia and the north of Russia to be unhistorical and forbade the financing of expeditions there back in Soviet times, so the reform of the Russian Academy of Sciences is a murder of science. Just what kind of science?
    5. projdoha
      projdoha 23 November 2013 19: 27
      +7
      the best way to refute the obvious is to ignore
      1. doctor.75
        doctor.75 24 November 2013 20: 51
        +1
        Quote: projdoha
        the best way to refute the obvious is to ignore

        Correctly! The thing is, well, oh, very dark ...
    6. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 23 November 2013 19: 47
      +5
      Quote: Pinochet000
      Just wondering, how does the official story comment on this?


      What for ? In your opinion, without an official comment, the find loses its meaning?

      It’s a pity that they found so little ...
      1. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris 24 November 2013 05: 13
        +3
        So there can be quite a few. Another conversation is that an expedition is needed for a detailed study. But who will give the money? And so it would be very interesting to know what it really is.
    7. Mature naturalist
      Mature naturalist 23 November 2013 22: 00
      +3
      There is much more that is curious: for example, 6 steps from 9 St. Isaac's Cathedral that went into the ground at 1m 20cm. It is impossible to litter like that for the foreseeable centuries, so Isaac was built earlier. Also, many buildings in almost all cities of the European territory of Russia, in which the first floor has become a basement or semi-basement. The second example: many palaces with colossal heights and the same doors. This is excessive for a person of our growth, and you will get tired of heating such volumes. All this and not only this confirms the theory of the Atlantean civilization, with a growth of about 3.5m. But this is not the topic of this site.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 24 November 2013 17: 04
        +4
        Well, comrade, you turned it down, about "messing up" - that's understandable, but the fact that the building is heavy, but stands on swampy ground and goes into the ground under the weight? And then, there are a lot of documents about the construction. As for the "Atlanteans" with a height of 3,5 meters, I will tell you as a professional biologist - the maximum height of a person at which PATHOLOGIES DOES NOT develop is 230 cm, and a three-meter modern person is simply not possible - he will not live up to 20 years without earning a full bouquet of "bipedal locomotion diseases" hi
        1. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 25 November 2013 17: 45
          0
          As for the "Atlanteans" with a height of 3,5 meters, I will tell you as a professional biologist - the maximum height of a person at which PATHOLOGIES DOES NOT develop is 230 cm, and a three-meter modern person is simply not possible - he will not live up to 20 years without earning a full bouquet of "bipedal locomotion diseases"
          So you respected do not take into account the force of gravity, perhaps in the times mentioned, it was different, which allowed the Atlanteans to reach a height of 3,5m. wink
          PS Yes, and the climate was told to others then, if not you as a biologist know about it. hi
          Many have heard, and many use it in conversation, but few thought about the meaning of the phrase: "before the flood technology."
    8. timer
      timer 24 November 2013 00: 50
      +4
      Yes, the article is interesting. So little has been studied documents and artifacts about our history, ancestors. It would have been my will to create, for centralization and efficiency, a certain fund "ancestral heritage". I would tie it to the study of anomalous zones, alien artifacts, archaeological excavations, etc. For an experimental site, I think that the efficiency of these studies would increase dramatically, and funding would be carried out through the Russian Academy of Sciences and the MGB.
    9. Letterksi
      Letterksi 24 November 2013 20: 17
      0
      In the furnace the official story along with their single textbook. tongue they stained themselves with lies for the most part.

      2 000 000 kg. it's a hell of a stone. until I see the pictures, of course, I will not believe wassat
    10. catapractic
      catapractic 25 November 2013 22: 33
      0
      does not comment in any way and this gives rise to a lot of speculation
    11. Orakyl
      Orakyl 31 January 2014 20: 49
      0
      this is explained by professor levashev http://www.levashov.info/
  2. kaktus
    kaktus 23 November 2013 08: 39
    +6
    Hello! The farther, the more interesting! good
  3. Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 23 November 2013 09: 15
    +2
    She is silent (she doesn’t look smarter).
    1. Pinochet000
      Pinochet000 23 November 2013 09: 38
      +2
      Quote: Hitrovan07
      She is silent (she doesn’t look smarter).

      Exactly, it looks frankly stupid .... Taldychat their like I.D.oty
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 24 November 2013 17: 09
        +1
        Quote: Pinochet000
        Exactly, it looks frankly stupid .... Taldychat their like I.D.oty

        Let's just say - "old men" are talking, who don't see any further than their own noses and haven't done any work at all for the last 20-30 years, at one time the leading domestic glaceologists argued that under the two-kilometer ice of Antarctica there can be, in principle, no liquid water, which was argued by one their young and talented colleague, until the Americans drilled to the subglacial Antarctic lake ...
        Although many young specialists also get off stating that they say there are few facts, we can’t say for sure ...
  4. Jellyfish
    Jellyfish 23 November 2013 09: 23
    +4
    More wonderful and wonderful, where are Sklyarov with his expeditions?
    1. Rif
      Rif 23 November 2013 13: 24
      +3
      Who pays and dances Sklyarov.
  5. 123dv
    123dv 23 November 2013 09: 23
    10
    So called "mythology"The ancient peoples unanimously mention some antediluvian giants. Those who lived before the flood. Perished, like civilization, during the flood. The periodic cataclysmic displacement of the earth's axis leads to the splashing of the oceans from the shores. Powerful tidal waves wash away everything in their path ... But something remained here and there - the pyramids, the ruins of Baalbek, the foundation of the Temple of Solomon on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, and many many other artifacts and megaliths around the world.
    Many civilizations, local and planetary, flourished and died, sometimes leaving no mention of themselves, because we are by no means an exception ...
    ...............................
    http://www.stihi.ru/2012/04/18/11721
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 23 November 2013 09: 40
      +4
      Quote: 123dv
      The so-called "myths" of ancient peoples in one voice mention some antediluvian giants.
      We also have our giant SVYATOGOR !!!! the Jews have Samson, the Ossetians have SOSLAN, the Armenians have David of Sasun. It seems to me that we are talking about the same person, "The Giant Bogatyr"?
      1. 123dv
        123dv 23 November 2013 10: 11
        +2
        He’s Goga, he’s Gosh .... wink
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 23 November 2013 20: 21
          +1
          Quote: 123dv
          He’s Goga, he’s Gosh ....
          Well, yes, something like that., Adjusted for terrain only.
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  7. RUSS
    RUSS 23 November 2013 09: 54
    +9
    Recently, there are a lot of finds that do not fit into the official history and development of mankind, for example, the same pyramids on the Kola Peninsula, megalithic structures in Siberia and Altai. But they will not review ancient historiography for unknown reasons.
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 23 November 2013 10: 51
      +8
      The reasons are just very clear.
    2. -Patriot-
      -Patriot- 23 November 2013 10: 58
      +3
      But it would be necessary ... Now a qualitatively new approach to history is needed.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 23 November 2013 11: 43
        +5
        And there is already a new approach to history: the abolition of the concept of the Tatar-Mongol yoke, Russia is now not Kiev, but the Old Slavic state, Vel.Oct. The Revolution is now just the Great Russian Revolution of 1917-1922 and no Civil Wars, but in the Recent History of Russia , especially since the 90s some pluses.
        1. Genur
          Genur 23 November 2013 15: 51
          0
          Read, for example ...
          http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/5014098/post271963986/
    3. Pinochet000
      Pinochet000 23 November 2013 11: 01
      +7
      Quote: RUSS
      But they will not review ancient historiography for unknown reasons.

      Nah. They are generally needed then fromTorahki ... parasites.
    4. Nayhas
      Nayhas 23 November 2013 11: 19
      +6
      Quote: RUSS
      Recently, there are a lot of finds that do not fit into the official history and development of mankind, for example, the same pyramids on the Kola Peninsula, megalithic structures in Siberia and Altai. But they will not review ancient historiography for unknown reasons.

      Too little material for this. The theory of the existence of civilization up to the present deserves attention, but all researchers are faced with the fact that there are no traces other than buildings. Even the Pithecanthropus and Neanderthals left many remains. Logically reasoning, the official history of mankind within the framework of the history of the earth is too short, too quickly there was a jump from a monkey who took a stone to flight into space. Official history says that our civilization is no more than 10 thousand years old! What is 10 thousand years in the history of the earth? Nothing, not even a flash of light!
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 24 November 2013 17: 13
        0
        Quote: Nayhas
        Official history says that our civilization is no more than 10 thousand years old!

        She just can’t find anything before 10 thousand years! Although, for example, geneticists' data, based on the analysis of mutations that occur in the human genome at certain intervals, say that a person as a species arose, pay special attention: 70 -170 thousand years ago! Not frail such a scatter turns out! And the earliest finds of tools date back to 40000 years BC, so how then to make assumptions ???
    5. R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№
      R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ 23 November 2013 15: 24
      +3
      And very understandable reasons - EVERYTHING we started only with a rurik. And before that there were wild people who don’t understand.
    6. Alexandr0id
      Alexandr0id 24 November 2013 20: 33
      -1
      I live on the Kola Peninsula, there are no finds here and there haven’t been, all these searches for hyperborea are nothing more than quackery, no pyramids, no labyrinths, only fairy tales and photoshop photos.
      1. tomket
        tomket 25 November 2013 22: 17
        0
        also lived 3 a year in your area, also wandered around, there is nothing nifig there. except cloudberries and mushrooms.
  8. Pinochet000
    Pinochet000 23 November 2013 11: 32
    +8
    Quote: Nayhas
    there was a jump too fast from a monkey taking a stone to space flights
    Do you believe that humans came from a monkey? Is Darwin a Jew by any chance? Everything is based on the Jewish concept of world order ... Yes, in general, modern Jewish civilization. Jews do not have faith. I think so.
    1. atalef
      atalef 23 November 2013 11: 46
      +2
      Quote: Pinochet000
      Do you believe that people came from a monkey?


      Quote: Pinochet000
      Is Darwin a Jew by any chance?

      No chance

      Quote: Pinochet000
      Everything is based on the Jewish concept of world order.

      In this I agree. God created heaven, earth, and man

      Quote: Pinochet000
      ..Yes, in general, modern Jewish civilization.

      I agree the same. Christianity, Islam --- came out of Judaism

      Quote: Pinochet000
      . Jews do not have faith. I think so.

      So you are an atheist and believe in Darwin's theory? Do you agree with that -
      1. Pinochet000
        Pinochet000 23 November 2013 12: 00
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        So you are an atheist and believe in Darwin's theory?

        How does this relate to my words? These are your speculations, Jewish.
        1. atalef
          atalef 23 November 2013 12: 11
          0
          Quote: Pinochet000
          How does this relate to my words? These are your speculations, Jewish.

          Well, that’s logical. that a Jew has Jewish speculation. But what about your logic?
          Somehow in your comment, the causal relationship is broken. laughing
          1. Pinochet000
            Pinochet000 23 November 2013 12: 13
            +7
            Quote: atalef
            Somehow in your comment, the causal relationship is broken.
            Your understanding is broken. More precisely, you all perfectly understood, just troll take the conversation aside. Typical jew)
            1. atalef
              atalef 23 November 2013 12: 17
              +1
              Quote: Pinochet000
              Your understanding is broken.

              To those. that I know that Darwin is not a Jew? Or that. that a person did not descend from a monkey, although your case probably confirms the theory widespread among atheists laughing
              1. Pinochet000
                Pinochet000 23 November 2013 12: 23
                +2
                Look above, the conversation is over.
                1. Bosk
                  Bosk 23 November 2013 21: 25
                  +6
                  You guys may not know ... but Darwin’s theory is just a THEORY! And as a theory it has the right to live. Whoever wants to let him think that he came from a monkey ... and I, for example, came from dad and mom.
      2. skullcap
        skullcap 24 November 2013 16: 30
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        Christianity, Islam --- out of Judaism

        I do not know about Islam, but about Christianity is wrong.
        Christ preached his doctrine precisely as a rejection of Judaism — a false religion. His words about the God of the Jews as a lie and the father of a lie clearly speak of this. So to say that Christianity came out of Judaism is a frank forgery.
        Another thing is that with the help of all sorts of Jewish and other agents introduced into Christianity, the essence of Christianity was sought to pervert over the centuries in order to avert people from it. Especially all sorts of popes succeeded in this, as a result of which Western European civilization began to be called Judeo-Christian. But this is also a special incorrect definition, since initially Judaism and Christianity are antipodes. It is more correct to call this civilization pseudo-Christian or even anti-Christian.
        By the way, and the discussed alleged section of Ukraine is planned just by the predominance of religions: the Christian Orthodox in the east of the country and the anti-Christian Uniate (a Catholic variety) in the west. And religions, as is known, form the mentality of people.
        And Christianity - I clarify once again - in no way came out of Judaism.
        1. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 26 November 2013 18: 19
          0
          Quote: kosopuz
          But Christianity - I’ll clarify again - didn’t come out of Judaism in any way

          1. Read, do not be lazy, the Pole Zenon Kosidovsky "Legends of the Evangelists". There is research at a very decent level of the personality of the SAVIOR.
          2. Check out the materials on the Qumran scrolls.
          3. Who were the Essenes?
          4. Followers of the New Testament do not deny the Old Testament!
          5. The followers of the Torah also do not deny the Pentateuch!
          Therefore, according to the postulates of the league, see paragraphs 4 and 5, the followers of the Torah and the followers of INRI have a single source, one base in the Septuagint.
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 23 November 2013 22: 45
      +2
      Quote: Pinochet000
      Do you believe that humans came from a monkey?

      Yes. But who gave the monkey reason? A man without a mind quickly rolls down to the level of a monkey. I saw families in which generations only did what they drank, with a person they were united only by speech and the beginnings of reason. Outwardly, they already looked like pithecanthropus. The fact that a person quickly rolls down to the level of an animal suggests that a person’s mind was not obtained as a result of evolution ...
    3. Albert1988
      Albert1988 24 November 2013 17: 18
      +3
      Quote: Pinochet000
      Do you believe that humans came from a monkey? Is Darwin a Jew by any chance? Everything is based on the Jewish concept of world order ... Yes, in general, modern Jewish civilization. Jews do not have faith. I think so.

      Darwin is by no means a Jew, God forbid - the English aristocracy at that time suffered from chronic anti-Semitism in a severe form, so we exclude this. And in general, it has long been known that man did not descend from the MODERN monkey, and the genus Homo most likely comes from the so-called "Gracile Australopithecus" - almost erect highly developed hominids, and chimpanzees with gorillas are just a side branch, and more primitive than Australopithecus) Well and the rest of the monkeys as human ancestors is generally not possible to consider.
      Well, if you raise the question more broadly - then, excuse me, according to the laws of evolution, NOBODY EXCEPT PRIMATES for the role of the human ancestor does not pass purely morphologically, physiologically and genetically - here in chimpanzees with humans, the genomes coincide 90% somewhere, so only primates. ..
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 24 November 2013 20: 12
        0
        In order to be an ancestor, you must appear before a descendant - a competent person with a ship can get into any era and be an ancestor of a monkey, and a monkey can only be in the trunk. Monkeys have degraded and this is our future under current politics.
  9. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 23 November 2013 11: 37
    +2
    That is, Neanderthals shaggy in their skins possessed TECHNOLOGIES greater than making fire and making copies? Don’t tell my horseshoes as the famous character used to say. The news is worthy of an investigation on Ren-TV.
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 24 November 2013 05: 19
      0
      The funny thing is that the existence of a culture of Neanderthals, which is in no way inferior to the culture of the Cro-Magnons contemporary to them, has already been proved.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 24 November 2013 17: 24
        0
        Quote: anomalocaris
        The funny thing is that the existence of a culture of Neanderthals, which is in no way inferior to the culture of the Cro-Magnons contemporary to them, has already been proved.

        Yes, only the Cro-Magnons came and ate Cook ... oh sorry Neanderthals ...
        1. anomalocaris
          anomalocaris 24 November 2013 18: 16
          +1
          It is likely that they ate. Morals then, I remember, were simple ... repeat
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 24 November 2013 22: 38
            0
            Quote: anomalocaris
            It is likely that they ate. Morals then, I remember, were simple ...

            Well, if they didn't eat, then they definitely won in the competitive struggle and led to the extinction of the Neanderthals - after all, the Neanderthal had a huge disadvantage in front of the Cro-Magnon - he did not have an "accurate grip of the hand" - so try to bring all your fingers to one point as if you were holding a thin subject? This is the exact capture. He allowed the "homo sapiens" to make finer and more sophisticated tools than the "homo neanderthalenses" could, so the latter died out - they were supplanted by a reasonable man ...))
            1. anomalocaris
              anomalocaris 25 November 2013 16: 10
              +1
              Not a fact. Have you personally made a single stone tool? I have such experience. So "precise capture" can be claimed only for the most perfect tools of the Mesolithic. And it's not a fact that they were more successful than the Paleolithic ones ...
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 25 November 2013 17: 46
                +1
                Quote: anomalocaris
                Very not a fact.

                Quote: anomalocaris
                Not a fact. Have you personally made a single stone tool? I have such experience. So "precise capture" can be claimed only for the most perfect tools of the Mesolithic. And it's not a fact that they were more successful than the Paleolithic ones ...

                You are right, anthropologists also disagree whether the more flexible Cro-Magnon hand had an advantage over the inflexible but very strong Neanderthal hand (if I remember correctly, the effort is 3-4 times more than that of the "Homo sapiens").
                But a study of the inner surface of Neanderthal skulls gives good reason to believe that they have a more poorly developed cerebral cortex than a reasonable person, and the relative volume of the brain is much less ...
                1. anomalocaris
                  anomalocaris 26 November 2013 15: 34
                  +1
                  And how does the human brain work?
                  1. Albert1988
                    Albert1988 26 November 2013 20: 00
                    0
                    Well, you asked !!!! You can immediately ask "how the universe is arranged", "is there a God", etc. fellow
                    But there is one observation at the moment - the intellectual development of a creature directly depends on the degree of development of its cerebral cortex. The bark is most developed in primates, cetaceans are in second place, felines and dogs are slightly behind, etc. In humans, the development of the cortex is several orders of magnitude superior to all other animals, even from chimpanzees and from the human ancestors of "homo habilis" and "homo erectus" a huge gap. So, in principle, we can assume that the Neanderthal was less intellectually developed than our species. Therefore, it became extinct under human pressure or changing environmental conditions - it is difficult to say, but he most likely could not mix up with a modern man, the latest genetic data speak more in favor of this ...
  10. Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 23 November 2013 11: 39
    12
    Many, of course, will smile at this article, but at least it popularizes domestic tourism. You do not need to travel with Turkey to Egypt, but travel around our country. After all, it is huge and there are many natural wonders in it.
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 23 November 2013 14: 30
      +5
      In central Russia, the one beyond the Urals may smile. And with us, no.
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 23 November 2013 15: 52
        +2
        If the cost of the flight and accommodation would be acceptable, many would go to see. And so, so far, only in the subjunctive mood.
        1. anomalocaris
          anomalocaris 23 November 2013 16: 10
          +1
          Living with us is much cheaper than in Moscow. Travel, in general, is also not so expensive. At least on vacation, I calmly hit the road for two weeks in St. Petersburg ... Z.Y. I don’t need to tell tales about poor wages in the Trans-Urals.
  11. dnh1970
    dnh1970 23 November 2013 11: 56
    +6
    Historical reality is more impressive than any fantasy ...
  12. Samadhi
    Samadhi 23 November 2013 12: 17
    0
    http://laiforum.ru/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2543&sid=b5400856603b1abafaf61d8dbd4530f
    c actually 3rd post - Sklyarov’s opinion
  13. Ross
    Ross 23 November 2013 12: 37
    +3
    Quote: RUSS
    Recently, there are a lot of finds that do not fit into the official history and development of mankind, for example, the same pyramids on the Kola Peninsula, megalithic structures in Siberia and Altai. But they will not review ancient historiography for unknown reasons.

    Even in the USSR there was a taboo ... Very strong falsifiers of history
  14. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 23 November 2013 13: 04
    -10 qualifying.
    Kemerovo region in general with increased miraculousness. That is, Eti with Valuev hugs, now cinderblocks are found. In my opinion, it’s just a natural formation. Some mysteries of our land, both historical and natural, to explain, from the point of view of modern science, is simply impossible.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 23 November 2013 13: 32
      10
      Quote: DZ_98_B
      Kemerovo region in general with increased miraculousness. That is, Eti with Valuev hugs, now cinderblocks are found. In my opinion, it’s just a natural formation. Some mysteries of our land, both historical and natural, to explain, from the point of view of modern science, is simply impossible.

      And Arkaim is also a "natural education"?
      1. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris 23 November 2013 16: 15
        +6
        The funniest thing, besides Arkaim in the south of the Urals and the north of Kazakhstan, were found about three dozen similar settlements. Only they are not covered. So as not to kill, like Arkaim.
    2. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 23 November 2013 14: 34
      +3
      Yeah ... I just ask you to come to us, and then we'll talk.
  15. Humpty
    Humpty 23 November 2013 13: 32
    -6
    Rock formation. Similar structures are sometimes found. It looks interesting.
    1. Felix200970
      Felix200970 23 November 2013 16: 37
      +4
      Quote: Humpty
      Rock formation. Similar structures are sometimes found. It looks interesting.

      99% of modern buildings stand on such rock, and the Egyptian pyramids from the same rock are called "cold concrete" repeat
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 23 November 2013 17: 01
        +2
        Nature sometimes creates amazing things. A couple of times I saw one place very similar to what is shown in the photo. There, the blocks are precisely of natural origin, although of regular shape.
  16. Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 23 November 2013 13: 39
    +2
    Modern history is such that it would not give individual countries reasons to boast of their origin and demanding some special preferences for it. And from scratch, everyone is equal, especially the United States, which is two hundred years old by lunch. wink
  17. just exp
    just exp 23 November 2013 14: 13
    +7
    Yes, many times they wrote that Siberia is the heart of the Earth, even in geopolitics this territory is called hartland, but it’s not fools who wrote this thing, the Avesta says that the Aryan expanse, it’s Aryana Veja, is where 9 months are winter, and some traditionalists brought that the center of the old world is located at the intersection of the Urals and the 60th parallel.
  18. Volkhov
    Volkhov 23 November 2013 14: 34
    +2
    In Altai, and now there is a space tracking station - before, it was also part of a network around the world, because you need to look in all directions and cover all directions. We had great ancestors, and not only giants but also normal growth. The last known time the remnants of PKO worked in 774 A.D. in the Irkutsk region
    Quote: Mikhail3
    Physicists, chemists, engineers and computer scientists should investigate truly important historical structures like these. But first you need to create an organization for this, develop approaches and techniques ... This is work for many years and a lot of money.

    The Germans did just that - Anonerbe (Heritage of the Ancestors) - more than 50 institutes, copying of ancient technology - one of the results of the destruction of the Russian fleet this year - this is the price of technical separation ... to whom the leadership, to the bottom. This is the price of denying the past by corrupt historians and political leaders.
    The civilization of the Ancients was destroyed relatively recently as a result of space aggression and the "occupation" has a multi-stage nature - not only the Russian Federation is occupied by America but also earthlings are not free - there is an approximate scheme on any Masonic pyramid.
    1. Michael_59
      Michael_59 23 November 2013 15: 19
      +5
      Quote: Volkhov
      The last known time the remnants of PKO worked in 774 A.D. in the Irkutsk region


      Can you give more details?


      Quote: Volkhov
      destruction of the Russian fleet this year

      Uh ... Explain ??

      Quote: Volkhov
      not only the Russian Federation is occupied by America but the earthlings are not free - there is an approximate scheme on any Masonic pyramid

      Develop a thought?
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 23 November 2013 16: 24
        -2
        Quote: Michael_59
        can be more

        Some types of charges during the explosion create a funnel of temporary displacement and part of the comet fragments fall along the same trajectory but later - for example, the Vitim group in the Irkutsk region. many times hollows in one place, the last - 2012 and 2002, and from earlier there are the Patom Crater and a number of characteristic lakes.
        http://sinteh.info/?p=1960
        Quote: Michael_59
        Explain

        Take an interest.
        Quote: Michael_59
        Develop a thought

        Basically, 2 cultures - Venusians decompose from the inside, gray ones bomb the stubborn - like a bunch of Zionism / USA, and you need to study in detail an academy like Anonerbe.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 23 November 2013 15: 55
      +2
      I can’t catch the train of your thoughts ... some kind of hash.
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 24 November 2013 04: 23
        -1
        And the reality is generally mixed up, rather a salad than a crystal.
    3. Albert1988
      Albert1988 24 November 2013 22: 44
      0
      Quote: Volkhov
      one of the results of the destruction of the Russian fleet this year is the price of technical separation

      This year, our fleet somehow in the Mediterranean all hangs off the coast of Syria and the Americans seem to have dumped it as you see it, so something, my friend, has bent ...
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 29 November 2013 10: 10
        0
        This is the Virtual Fleet, basically, being at the bottom, it lives on screens and in newspapers.
  19. Michael_59
    Michael_59 23 November 2013 15: 01
    +1
    Quote: anomalocaris
    No way. And they and we and the neighbors find a lot of interesting things.
    Although tales go quite a lot ...


    Tell me, please!
    1. anomalocaris
      anomalocaris 23 November 2013 15: 48
      0
      What to tell? Tales?
      1. dzvero
        dzvero 23 November 2013 17: 18
        +2
        I join. tales do not arise from scratch.
        1. anomalocaris
          anomalocaris 24 November 2013 05: 27
          +1
          So, so as not to tell stories, research is needed.
  20. Arkan
    Arkan 23 November 2013 15: 55
    +1
    It is necessary to find interesting artifacts, study and advertise their civilizational value.
  21. pensioner
    pensioner 23 November 2013 16: 54
    +3
    Quote: Mikhail3
    The instrument of historians and archaeologists is poetry. They use neither analysis, nor mathematics, nor physics.
    They use it and how. Do not even hesitate. Back in the 80s, a lot of physical-chemical methods were used in archeology. Models of the device settlements (monuments - archaeol. Language) were calculated on a computer. Sam participated in this a bit. Nowadays, electric prospecting methods are used in archeology and are very successfully applied. The leader in this field is the Izhevsk Physical Technical Institute. Yes, a lot of things apply. Still, archeology is a science. And in science, scientists primarily work, who can be poets and writers. But only at leisure ...
  22. Stinger
    Stinger 23 November 2013 17: 04
    +2
    The information is interesting. A hypothesis explaining the origin of similar and other finds, for example, artifacts that are tens or hundreds of centuries old, is more than enough.
    The appearance of the globe has changed over a very wide range during its existence. What are the findings of marine animal fossils even on the highest mountains in the world. For example, petrified ammonites are found in limestone formations in the Himalayas of Nepal. The most likely hypothesis, in my opinion, is the assumption that there could be one or more civilizations on earth that reached a much higher level than the modern one. Disasters of a cosmic and geological (and possibly technogenic) nature led them to death. The vast majority of traces of their existence are erased by the consequences of these cataclysms and the geological change in the landscape. But something remains, which they find from time to time.
    1. atalef
      atalef 23 November 2013 17: 27
      0
      Quote: Stinger
      The most likely hypothesis, in my opinion, is the assumption that there could be one or more civilizations on earth that reached a much higher level than the modern one

      dvard Snowden, reported on facts known to him regarding UFOs. According to documents that Snowden copied to the CIA, the US government has long been aware that UFOs actually exist and are controlled by more advanced species than humanity. These species are not alien, but our terrestrial, only more highly developed. They live here for billions of years and are far ahead of us in development.


      According to Snowden, quoted by Chronicle.su, “The highest echelons of power do not know what to do with UFOs, and feed the citizens the official version that they are all just meteorological probes or natural phenomena. But the documents say that UFOs are a reality. Transport ships of this civilization fly not only in the Earth’s atmosphere, but have been seen on the seabed, in hydrothermal springs, volcanoes and directly in the solar orbit.
      The CIA stores data from tracking systems and deep-sea sonars, but they have the status of state secrets and even scientists do not have access to these data about these objects. This species is smarter than homo sapiens and lives in the mantle of the Earth. This is the only place where conditions have been more or less stable for billions of years. Extremophiles can live at different temperatures, they were able to thrive and develop intelligence at an accelerated pace. Homo sapaens and they evolved at the same rate, but their living conditions in the mantle of the Earth protected their civilization from many disasters that occurred on the surface of the earth.
      The US President receives daily briefings on the activities of this civilization and the movement of its vehicles - UFOs. Analysts believe that their technology has gone so far that we have little chance of survival in any potential war with them. The general opinion is that we are just ants from their point of view and there is a small chance that they will not continue to pay attention to us.
      But the military is considering the possibility of aggression and the current emergency plan includes a plan - to blow up nuclear weapons in deep caves in order to "seal" the enemy in the hope of destroying their communications, which will prevent further attacks from the bowels of the earth. "
      1. Stinger
        Stinger 23 November 2013 18: 43
        +3
        I adhere to the point of view of I. Kant in such matters: If a fact is not known, it does not exist. I agree about the "ants". After all, you cannot refute the thesis that our entire "infinite universe" is nothing but a molecule in the urine of a super being.
  23. Anatoly Dobry
    Anatoly Dobry 23 November 2013 17: 08
    +7
    We have a lot of interesting places in Kemerovo. In the Kuznetsk Alatau, in the middle of a rocky slope, there is a stone wall without growth, along which you can drive a car. Our Tuleyev does not need to look for it, but tell the story of the native land to the population. Many of my friends living in the city do not know the surroundings.
    1. Bosk
      Bosk 23 November 2013 21: 32
      +3
      No pictures of the case? or maybe more accurate coordinates so that even on a GOGLA map to bang ...
  24. Glory333
    Glory333 23 November 2013 17: 47
    0
    I would like more photos and better videos.
  25. biglow
    biglow 23 November 2013 18: 22
    +2
    as usual, zero photos and bare unproven text .. request
  26. Black
    Black 23 November 2013 19: 09
    +1
    I would like the opinion of professionals about such discoveries. The author of the article succeeded in writing a note to the newspaper "Evening Whistle". No more.
  27. ando_bor
    ando_bor 23 November 2013 19: 53
    +7
    Why should absolute nonsense on a serious site be propagated?
    There are one million such tales on the Internet.
    Natural Fracture Treated by Weathering Processes - I'm a geologist.
    1. Miha_Skif
      Miha_Skif 23 November 2013 23: 16
      +4
      I am joining. The usual mattress-like individuality characteristic of granite massifs.

      I can recommend any ufologists, conspiracy theorists and other "historians" to visit other picturesque places in Siberia. For example, the reserve "Krasnoyarsk Pillars" or the outskirts of Lake Kolyvan in Altai. Even with a not very rich imagination, looking at the weathering remnants there, you can imagine SUCH ... fellow
      1. poquello
        poquello 23 November 2013 23: 45
        +3
        Quote: Miha_Skif
        I am joining. The usual mattress-like individuality characteristic of granite massifs.

        I can recommend any ufologists, conspiracy theorists and other "historians" to visit other picturesque places in Siberia. For example, the reserve "Krasnoyarsk Pillars" or the outskirts of Lake Kolyvan in Altai. Even with a not very rich imagination, looking at the weathering remnants there, you can imagine SUCH ... fellow

        Very well, why are the mattresses lying or standing, and what is the physics of the process?
        1. Asgard
          Asgard 24 November 2013 00: 30
          +4
          I am also a geologist. He graduated from the Ural Mining Academy. And I can not agree with my colleagues that this is a natural fracturing and weathering .....
          Ask yourself why, at this cluster, horizontal-vertical cracks are at right angles, and at 100 meters everything is natural ....

          We, beyond Kandalaksha (Kola Peninsula)) have a width of 48 meters road laid out in the tundra of blocks for kilometers and a straight line. The weight of some paving stones (blocks)) - up to 100 tons ....
          Seids are stumbled across Karelia ...
          Labyrinths are laid out of stones, In the Kemsky area, On Solovki ...
          By the way, on the Solovki, where the monastery stands, an interesting anomaly, the White Sea freezes in winter, and a strip of water remains around the island .....
          Plums, apples grow on the island itself, attempts to plant a plum on the mainland in Kemi (60 km)) do not lead to anything (everything freezes out)) ....
          I have a quarry, Louhi, Mount Kalguvaara, in a certain place it starts pounding in my ears and my heartbeat is breaking, stars appear in my eyes and make noise in my head .... Although I measured the background of radiation, there is less background ....
          And at what not all))) in "people" With the animal structure of the psyche, the secretion of gastric juice increases (you want to eat))))))

          Photo; Address: Kandalaksha suburban area, 4 km east of the city on the slope of Malaya Pitkul, on a peninsula that protrudes into the White Sea, 2 km from the coast
          1. Simple
            Simple 24 November 2013 20: 05
            +1
            Quote: Asgard
            , in a certain place, it starts pounding in the ears and the rhythm of the heartbeat is broken, stars appear in the eyes and make noise in the head.


            Vladimir, a human being of biological origin, and rather capricious
            to everything that is not peculiar to him.
          2. tomket
            tomket 25 November 2013 22: 27
            0
            Photo to the studio! especially the photo of the road in the tundra.
            1. abdrah
              abdrah 1 February 2014 01: 22
              0
              tomket - "photo to studio"
              - please follow the link, 23 pages of photos with explanations, though not everything is about megalithic roads, but there are also something else, no less interesting about prurda, history and generally about the Kola North.

              http://forum.turizm.ru/common/rien/052795.html
          3. Shinken
            Shinken 31 January 2014 20: 29
            0
            and what is in the photo? abandoned japanese kindergarten? why didn’t they take pictures of the road from the hundred-paving pavers? Before planting something (especially stone fruit), take a closer look at the soil and its composition - strongly acidic soils do not like it. no matter how they planted in our garden, everything was dry and did not grow, but across the road there were beautiful gardens ... an anomaly and no other way))
        2. Miha_Skif
          Miha_Skif 24 November 2013 01: 13
          11
          The physics of the process is quite simple, but for this it is necessary to explain the mechanism of formation of granite intrusions.
          I'll try briefly and on my fingers. From the magma chamber from great depths under the action of lithostatic pressure, the granite melt penetrates into the overlying rocks. If there is enough pressure, magma reaches the surface and flows out, forming a volcano. If there is not enough pressure, it reaches a certain level and does not go further, begins to accumulate there, partly melts the enclosing rocks, partly "pushes them apart", a loaf-shaped mass is formed. Well, then the melt begins to cool and crystallize, and in the direction from the outer boundary (contact with the host rocks) to the center. During cooling and crystallization, the volume decreases, respectively, systems of cracks begin to form - radial cracks, transverse cracks and cracks parallel to the contact. Hydrothermal solutions begin to circulate along these cracks in the already hardened granite, metasomatic working out of granite near these cracks takes place, the rock is transformed and becomes not so strong. In general, this is approximately how large granite intrusions - batholiths - are formed. Batholiths are usually several tens of kilometers in size, rarely more than a hundred kilometers.
          When, as a result of subsequent geological processes, granites come to the surface, they turn out to be broken by these systems of subparallel cracks into parallelepipeds of different sizes. The rock changed along the cracks breaks up faster, the cracks appear in relief, and the impression is that the rocks are composed of separate blocks with rounded edges - mattresses, hence the name of this individual - mattress-like. smile
          1. Asgard
            Asgard 24 November 2013 02: 50
            +6
            during intrusion there should be a lens, but in this case this is not observed ....
            The height of the supposedly natural blocks ??? - ???? and locally ....
            Then it was formed somewhere at the ground level, then the process of formation of mountain folds began and the batholiths were on top of the mountain, surprisingly preserving the vertical and horizontal cracks
            ...... at an angle close to 90 degrees))))) masonry))))

            Gods still were !!!! ?????)))))))))))))
            1. Volkhov
              Volkhov 24 November 2013 05: 17
              +1
              On the Kola Peninsula there was one of the centers of civilization, such a person sat on the throne, and around (in a semicircle from the south) was the country of Biarmia (Barmia - framing) like the border zone now. After the disaster, Cossacks - former border guards - left this Barmia, and remained a serving class, they only served different sovereigns.
              Similarly - in Switzerland, there are the rock towns of Mother of the Mountains (Matterhorn with a bas-relief of a naked woman on the slope) and Gorny Grad (Gornergrad), and around the guard, this is still the traditional trade of the "Swiss guards" and "doormen".
              In the shadow, estimate the power of the explosion, and up to the epicenter of 50 kilometers ...
              1. tomket
                tomket 25 November 2013 22: 29
                0
                I, too, in childhood looking at a carpet with patterns fantasized about different dragons there
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 24 November 2013 05: 53
        +2
        Quote: Miha_Skif
        usual mattress individuality

        What, and here they found the machinations of the American special services? wassat
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  29. Antas
    Antas 23 November 2013 20: 54
    +3
    Our, Russian, guys in beautiful Russian, have already released a series of good films about the architectural remains of a very ancient and highly developed civilization that I recommend to everyone interested to watch, here is their channel (a series of films forbidden history topics) http://www.youtube. com / user / OnlineLAI. On their website there is a clickable photo bank of mysterious buildings on a map of the earth http://www.lah.ru/foto.htm
  30. poquello
    poquello 23 November 2013 21: 21
    +9


    xs it’s not very much written off to the work of nature, where is the geologist, why is it so even?
    1. Pinochet000
      Pinochet000 23 November 2013 22: 21
      +1
      Some even have ssy eyes, all God's dew ...
      1. poquello
        poquello 23 November 2013 23: 41
        +6
        Quote: Pinochet000
        Some even have ssy eyes, all God's dew ...

        Why, if everything is explained logically and intelligibly and there are no questions, for it is no less interesting to know how nature stamps parallelepipeds.
        1. anomalocaris
          anomalocaris 24 November 2013 05: 42
          +1
          So what is the conversation about.
    2. Aureol
      Aureol 24 November 2013 16: 59
      +3
      At 1.12, 3.42 sec - very similar to "man-made" masonry
      In some cases, the color of the rocks suggests that the boulders are a massif cut by cracks: like a red spot in the center of the frame to the right of the spruce, it is repeated on the upper and lower "bricks", if it has not leaked (2.32 s).
      In order not to break spears in absentia, you need to find a "brick" that is significantly different from the neighboring ones in some parameters (underburning ;-), layering "in the wrong direction", etc.), traces of tools (the same 7 cm hole) on the plane but in the "inter-brick space", is there a sharp transition from "foundation" to "building" - description, analyzes, photos, figures ...
    3. saygon66
      saygon66 25 November 2013 16: 33
      +2
      - I lived in Prokopyevsk for several years, but I didn’t know anything ... it's a shame! Beauty is such that it does not care - natural or man-made ...
  31. Owl
    Owl 23 November 2013 22: 06
    +5
    I personally do not understand the relation of this information to the "Military Review"
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 24 November 2013 04: 59
      +1
      The direct relationship is the ruins of war with large equivalents of explosions, not so long ago - about 1300 years. Chelyabinsk this year is the same physics, only weaker.
  32. skullcap
    skullcap 23 November 2013 23: 01
    +3
    Quote: Aryan
    And they said that hemp does not grow in Taiga!
  33. Nexus 6
    Nexus 6 23 November 2013 23: 45
    +1
    And ducks fly high ... The site did not expect such material. And on Warfiles, the regularly spreading cranberries from repin.info. Infuriates. The main people came running, with comments previously not seen on the site! Similar materials disavow this Internet resource (IMHO). Or are there fans of the yellow press wound up?
    Here by the way is an example about Shoria's masterpiece: http://www.zhitanska.com/content/vojny-bogov-gornaya-shoriya
  34. Pinochet000
    Pinochet000 24 November 2013 00: 07
    +1
    Quote: Nexus 6
    The main people came running
    Whose will you be?
    1. Nexus 6
      Nexus 6 24 November 2013 00: 52
      +2
      Of the sympathizers. Have you read my link about the wars of the gods? Do you believe in THIS? And came across "Any ufologists, conspiracy theorists and other" historians "(c).
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  37. Lexsir
    Lexsir 24 November 2013 03: 15
    0
    Everything was built by the hands of prisoners, Stalin reached out.
    If you remove all the lies from history, this does not mean at all that only the truth will remain - as a result, nothing can remain at all. super quote.
  38. White Guard
    White Guard 24 November 2013 06: 46
    +2
    I highly recommend books by Yuri Petukhov on this topic, for example, "The Primordial Origins of the Rus." You can order on the Internet in "Ozone" and in other stores.
  39. Bort radist
    Bort radist 24 November 2013 07: 00
    +6
    Good day to all!
    EPIGRAPH.
    He spoke breaking his hands
    Krasnobay and balamut
    About the powerlessness of science
    Before the secret of Bermuda, -
    He broke all brains into pieces,
    All gyruses are braided -
    And the rope authorities
    They prick us a second injection.
    Unfortunately for the author, I live in this region. In Tisulsky district he lived 25 years. More than once I visited Rzhavchik, Komsomolsk, Berikul, Berchikul, and Central. He worked in
    town. Belogorsk. In short - nonsense. Local did not hear anything about such stories. About Rust, the article was written by April 1. For the good purpose of attracting tourists, such stories are invented. That ETI chased in the taiga. There was no Eti in the West Siberian taiga. Shors native population not a word! Hunters are hereditary, have never heard anything. He communicated with the hunters personally for 25 years (he was crazy about fishing - grayling, climbed into such a wilderness where the locals did not visit). About the wall of such rocky outcrops - they are often found but it’s natural, geologists are well aware and can explain. It is not possible to live in these places in winter. The depth of snow reaches 9 meters !!!. Moose, deer, roe deer, even wolves leave in the winter in the valleys of rivers and steppes. People in the mountains have never lived. Everyone was attracted to GOLD.
    Nature works wonders of creativity. The mountain in the upper Kia and Lower Tersi is called the Great Church. It seems that there is a church on top of the mountain, or White Stone Reach on Kii in the Makaraka area. Shore, bottom, cliffs of white marble.
    PS It is much more interesting why in the 80s an underground nuclear explosion was carried out in the region of Upper Chebula. All of Kuzbas walked with a shaker. But I prefer to remain silent about this.
  40. Temer
    Temer 24 November 2013 07: 21
    0
    Andrei Yuryevich Sklyarov would be very interested.
    1. Antas
      Antas 24 November 2013 11: 57
      0
      Sklyarova vryatli interested. He must see traces of the instrument on the stone, without this he will not give a conclusion on man-madeness. Mountain Shoria, interesting of course, but it is either nature. or much more ancient and incomprehensible than what Sklyarov studies.
  41. Irokez
    Irokez 24 November 2013 12: 01
    +2
    He travels only abroad - we don’t think there is anything suitable for research (at least he doesn’t know and doesn’t spray on trifles).
  42. mountain
    mountain 24 November 2013 12: 12
    +2
    Yes, in truth, live a century, learn a century. We fly into space, but we don’t know our history.
  43. Bort radist
    Bort radist 24 November 2013 12: 43
    +2
    Quote: Temer
    Andrei Yuryevich Sklyarov would be very interested.

    Sklyarov about Mountain Shoria.
    I quote: "Igneous rock. It often has such a crystalline structure, which causes the appearance of cracks along roughly flat planes and" correct "angles.
  44. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 24 November 2013 13: 23
    +2
    Now they find a lot of interesting things that are quickly becoming available to people thanks to digital photos and the Internet.

    Many say that modern science does not comment on these discoveries - there is nothing to say ...

    But the most interesting is that scientists of the 18th and 19th centuries also did not comment on such megalithic artifacts in any way.

    I wonder why?

    PS Everyone knows the words of Napoleon Bonaparte about the pyramids: "Forty centuries of history are looking at you from the height of the pyramids!"

    I wonder why only forty centuries? Or 4 thousand years? Bonaparte was not stupid and was fond of science, talked with scientists.

    Modern historians believe that the pyramids are 6 thousand years old.

    Why 6 thousand? After all, only two centuries passed, and a couple of millennia came running ...

    Something is wrong with historical chronology ...

    Why did I start talking about the pyramids? Because the pyramids are also megalithic structures, and the age of megaliths is estimated by modern scientists even in tens of millennia ...

    I repeat, something is wrong with the chronology. And not only with her.
  45. Ross
    Ross 24 November 2013 14: 29
    +2
    Quote: Volkhov
    denial of the past by corrupt historians and political leaders.

    An example of a distortion of history is a lie about the construction of St. Petersburg by Peter
    http://atlantida-pravda-i-vimisel.blogspot.ru/2012/07/blog-post_4128.html
  46. mithridate
    mithridate 24 November 2013 15: 22
    +2
    topic of the article - obviously not for topwar
  47. Irokez
    Irokez 24 November 2013 18: 34
    +4
    ROSS
    http://atlantida-pravda-i-vimisel.blogspot.ru/2012/07/blog-post_4128.html
    Impressive.
    But Sklyarov doesn’t know.
    As the saying goes:
    - "There is no prophet in his own country."
    - "What has - we do not appreciate."
    - "Well de we are not there."
    That is, as always, they hammered and hammered into us, that we cannot do anything and we don’t have anything, and if we start to see and see the light, then the whole world, in the person of scientists and historians, says this is absurd and simply cannot be or is built in more Late deadlines and generally keep quiet and do not bother us to contemplate our exclusivity, otherwise you will be equated with our mind and intellect.
    I have been tracking and delving into history for a long time, and there are many such absurdities and inconsistencies in history, but they don’t want to do this and don’t give it, referring to the pillars of science and history.
    One thing is surprising. As Cyril and Mythodius gave us writing when long before them there was already Glagolitic and features and cuts and other types of writing among the Slavs. Most likely they gave us a stripped-down Alphabet for which they are revered, but this is a degradation of our writing and language (figuratively by the way than now). Remarkably, the fewer letters in the alphabet, the less rich the language, and our alphabet, cut several times, still has more letters than other popular languages. So think about what happened in antiquity with us and where is our history.
  48. Ross
    Ross 24 November 2013 20: 15
    +2
    Quote: Irokez
    Most likely they gave us a stripped-down Alphabet for which they are revered, but this is a degradation of our writing and language (figuratively by the way than now). Remarkably, the fewer letters in the alphabet, the less rich the language, and our alphabet, cut several times, still has more letters than other popular languages.

    You are absolutely right. It was cut back to Greek, much more meager than our ancient language. And the richness of the language means the corresponding ability of figurative communication. Look at our youth newspeak today - and look at its thinking.
  49. Slavs69
    Slavs69 24 November 2013 20: 17
    +2
    The truth remains true. Lies become history. The quote was remembered from some movie.
  50. Boris63
    Boris63 24 November 2013 20: 23
    0
    There are many things on our ball that cannot be explained from a scientific point of view. The same "labyrinths" and temples of the Kola Peninsula, Stonehenge, Baalbek, Easter Island ... - their size is such that scientists themselves cannot really understand: why and how these "goons" made such structures.
    About ten years ago there was an article: near Taimyr, the roofing felts a barge, or a tug boat sank. So when the divers "dug" at the bottom, they found the skeleton of a wooden ship (about 100 m long), took out a piece of "wood" and gave it to the scientists - radiocarbon analysis showed that the tree has been at the bottom for at least 12 thousand years. And then silence.