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C-400 for Algeria

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French-speaking Algerian online edition LeSoirdAlgerie.com reported that Algeria intends to buy a large batch of Russian weapons. We are talking about the latest and best models of military equipment. For the country's air defense, it is planned to purchase long-range C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems and mobile Tor systems. “Torahs” should cover air defense positions from high-precision weapons, as well as important public facilities.


Significant replenishment can get the Air Force. It is planned to buy from two to four squadrons of Su-34 bombers. In addition to the existing Mi-24 attack helicopters, the Algerian Air Force would like to receive three squadrons of new Mi-28. The Yak-130 can also be used as light attack aircraft, and there is also great interest in buying them. All this airborne equipment will be used for strikes against terrorist groups in the south of the country.

Ground forces can purchase up to 180 modernized tanks T-90SM. In addition to them, the acquisition of combat support vehicles for BMPT tanks is considered. Most likely we are talking about the BMPT-72 "Terminator-2", presented in September at an arms exhibition in Nizhny Tagil.

The Algerian Navy is interested in submarines and corvettes of the 20380 project. As for submarines, something definite is hard to say. Now the market is dominated by German submarines. A corvette type "Stereguschy" are in service with the Russian Navy and are considered among the best in its class. To protect the Algerian coast, it is possible to purchase coastal anti-ship complexes "Bastion". In this case, Algeria becomes a serious geopolitical force, as it can completely block the Strait of Gibraltar and the western waters of the Mediterranean Sea.

Historically, Algeria has been closely associated with France. And now they are economic and partly political allies. However, much of the weapons Algeria prefers to buy from Russia. It is cheaper than the French, at the level of the best world standards and not furnished with political conditions. Currently, Algeria is becoming one of the main buyers of Russian weapons. While China has sharply reduced purchases, India does not increase them either, Algeria and Vietnam have become major buyers.
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  1. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 22 November 2013 13: 27
    21
    Damn, the S-300 would have been enough for them. After a minimum time will be in China.
    1. Guun
      Guun 22 November 2013 13: 28
      +4
      S-400 China will not be sold, and if sold, then in large quantities.
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 22 November 2013 13: 52
        +8
        Well, I actually said that they will not sell to China, they will be in China.
        1. Freelancer7
          Freelancer7 22 November 2013 14: 37
          +4
          The problem is that even if we do not sell it, anyway, China will stole it from us. It's unavoidable.
          1. Excalibur
            Excalibur 22 November 2013 15: 17
            -49 qualifying.
            The C-400 is a good system, but the F-35 will easily clog it with interference ...
            Watch the video 2:42 - 3:08
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 22 November 2013 15: 26
              23
              F-35 will easily clog him with interference ...

              yes baby and even burn it.
              Che friday?
              Well then the question is what kind of interference? And at what distance. Come on with the numbers.
              Threat moders do not bang the troll let the people rest.
              1. Excalibur
                Excalibur 22 November 2013 15: 47
                -18 qualifying.
                Quote: leon-iv
                and even burn it.

                please

                Quote: leon-iv
                Well then the question is what kind of interference? And at what distance. Come on with the numbers.

                One of the functions of the F-35 radar. This is a video presentation from Northrop Grumman. They do not give figures, but claim that from a safe distance.
                Quote: leon-iv
                Threat moders do not bang the troll let the people rest.

                What trolling if this is the official video presentation from Northrop Grumman ???
                1. leon-iv
                  leon-iv 22 November 2013 16: 05
                  15
                  One of the functions of the F-35 radar. This is a video presentation from Northrop Grumman. They do not give figures, but claim that from a safe distance.

                  Of course. Only the EW station is always displayed separately. And the ILC wants a new container for it.
                  Now, let's talk about the interference that Lightning can create. What type it generates. And FOR shooting at a source of interference, this is an old radar function with hell knows what year if Che.
                  What trolling if this is the official video presentation from Northrop Grumman ???

                  Well then, let’s put the numbers in order to evaluate the power, and not the mufflers.
                2. Su24
                  Su24 22 November 2013 17: 12
                  +5
                  Quote: Excalibur
                  One of the functions of the F-35 radar. This is a video presentation from Northrop Grumman. They do not give figures, but claim that from a safe distance.


                  Those. from a distance of over 400 km ?? Something is hard to believe.
                  1. leon-iv
                    leon-iv 22 November 2013 17: 16
                    +6
                    Well, how can 400 on 400 only a fat little AWACS fail. The fighter will not even be taken for escort.
                    1. Onyx
                      Onyx 22 November 2013 18: 06
                      +1
                      Quote: leon-iv
                      Well, how can 400 on 400 only a fat little AWACS fail. The fighter will not even be taken for escort.

                      How do you know? This is secret data.
                    2. Rus2012
                      Rus2012 22 November 2013 19: 01
                      +4
                      Quote: leon-iv
                      Well, how can 400 on 400 only a fat little AWACS fail?

                      Well, bake is not quite ta ...
                      "Long arm" 40N6 for long distance - it is guided by itself. And no one will prevent him from going to the radiation source in one of the modes :))) Let the electronic warfare "shine" more strongly ...
                      1. Rus2012
                        Rus2012 22 November 2013 19: 26
                        +3
                        Up to 4 40H6E ultra-long-range missiles (up to 400 km.), Which are designed to destroy DLRO planes, EW planes, enemy aircraft, strategic bombers and ballistic missiles with speeds up to 4 800 m / s, can be installed on one launcher. This missile is capable of destroying targets outside the radio visibility of ground guidance locators. The need to defeat beyond-the-horizon targets led to the installation on the rocket of the newest homing head (GSN), created by the NPO Almaz. This GOS operates in semi-active and active modes. In the active mode, the rocket after the required height is set is transferred to the search mode and, having found the target, it is directed at it independently.
                        http://dokwar.ru/publ/pvo_i_rvsn/zrs_s_400_triumf/16-1-0-54
                      2. patsantre
                        patsantre 23 November 2013 00: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Rus2012
                        designed to destroy DLRO aircraft, EW aircraft, enemy airborne CP, strategic bombers and ballistic missiles with speeds up to 4 m / s.


                        You contradict yourself.
                      3. Rus2012
                        Rus2012 23 November 2013 11: 42
                        0
                        Quote: patsantre
                        EW aircraft

                        and do you find a worthy contradiction?
                        As you know LA EW m. fighter, as well as a dedicated and equipped special aircraft in the form of a larger and more energy-saturated ...
                        The more "shines", ie. the more powerful the radiation, the easier it is to aim at it. Incl. and homing ...
                  2. And Us Rat
                    And Us Rat 23 November 2013 00: 54
                    0
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    Quote: leon-iv
                    Well, how can 400 on 400 only a fat little AWACS fail?

                    Well, bake is not quite ta ...
                    "Long arm" 40N6 for long distance - it is guided by itself. And no one will prevent him from going to the radiation source in one of the modes :))) Let the electronic warfare "shine" more strongly ...


                    It already depends on the power of the EW emitter (or the same AFAR), the new systems do not jam at short distances, but overload and burn the electronics on the rocket itself with a directed beam, so that even one has time to fly, you need a volley of several missiles.
                  3. Rus2012
                    Rus2012 23 November 2013 11: 50
                    0
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    and they overload and burn the electronics on the rocket itself with a directed beam,

                    Is it interesting kaG? If overload protection is integrated ...
                    And there are aircraft, including anti-aircraft missiles capable of operating under conditions of the use of EMP weapons and nuclear weapons factors.
                    Most importantly, all this was also verified during real field tests (KapYar and Novzemlya). Moreover, your "thin electronics" is not adapted to this ...
                    Example, work zap.robotov at Chernobyl ...
                  4. And Us Rat
                    And Us Rat 23 November 2013 22: 23
                    +1
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    and they overload and burn the electronics on the rocket itself with a directed beam,

                    Is it interesting kaG? If overload protection is integrated ...
                    And there are aircraft, including anti-aircraft missiles capable of operating under conditions of the use of EMP weapons and nuclear weapons factors.
                    Most importantly, all this was also verified during real field tests (KapYar and Novzemlya). Moreover, your "thin electronics" is not adapted to this ...
                    Example, work zap.robotov at Chernobyl ...


                    Protection from overloading the circuits turns off the electronics to avoid, then restarts it and captures the target again, helps from directed peak pulses (as in the explosion of nuclear weapons or old electronic warfare devices that were unable to give out continuous radiation of high energy intensity in a narrow beam, as AFAR does), restarting the system does not save from a continuous beam.

                    Our electronics will be thicker than American, since Yusovskaya is created for theoretical wars with a probable adversary, and ours is going into business from the assembly line, therefore it is more viable and not for nothing that all Yusovian equipment with us, especially aviation, with its electronics and radars is created. The super-duper radar is being promoted on the F-35 video, so we won’t have it, but we’ll have it, and not because the Yusovites don’t sell it, they, on the contrary, have been spraying nozzles for a long time about this when placing an order.

                    Chernobyl used Japanese robots with electronic filling of a civilian standard - and it doesn’t belong to us by any means.
                  5. And Us Rat
                    And Us Rat 23 November 2013 22: 23
                    0
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    and they overload and burn the electronics on the rocket itself with a directed beam,

                    Is it interesting kaG? If overload protection is integrated ...
                    And there are aircraft, including anti-aircraft missiles capable of operating under conditions of the use of EMP weapons and nuclear weapons factors.
                    Most importantly, all this was also verified during real field tests (KapYar and Novzemlya). Moreover, your "thin electronics" is not adapted to this ...
                    Example, work zap.robotov at Chernobyl ...


                    Protection from overloading the circuits turns off the electronics to avoid, then restarts it and captures the target again, helps from directed peak pulses (as in the explosion of nuclear weapons or old electronic warfare devices that were unable to give out continuous radiation of high energy intensity in a narrow beam, as AFAR does), restarting the system does not save from a continuous beam.

                    Our electronics will be thicker than American, since Yusovskaya is created for theoretical wars with a probable adversary, and ours is going into business from the assembly line, therefore it is more viable and not for nothing that all Yusovian equipment with us, especially aviation, with its electronics and radars is created. The super-duper radar is being promoted on the F-35 video, so we won’t have it, but we’ll have it, and not because the Yusovites don’t sell it, they, on the contrary, have been spraying nozzles for a long time about this when placing an order.

                    Chernobyl used Japanese robots with electronic filling of a civilian standard - and it doesn’t belong to us by any means.
                  6. Rus2012
                    Rus2012 23 November 2013 22: 55
                    +1
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    continuous radiation of high energy intensity in a narrow beam, as does AFAR

                    There is logic in this.
                    Yes, just what interferes with "coarsening" the receiving devices and screening the circuits of electronic units?
                    And by the way, what power should these continuous emitters have?
                  7. And Us Rat
                    And Us Rat 24 November 2013 00: 39
                    0
                    Quote: Rus2012
                    Quote: And Us Rat
                    continuous radiation of high energy intensity in a narrow beam, as does AFAR

                    There is logic in this.
                    Yes, just what interferes with "coarsening" the receiving devices and screening the circuits of electronic units?
                    And by the way, what power should these continuous emitters have?


                    Screen with what? Faraday cage? The internal contours of the missiles and screen, but there remains a weak link - GOS. How to shield it and at the same time keep its capabilities? There are various half measures, but they do not guarantee, this is one of the reasons why the Yusovites are digging the earth with their nose in attempts to bring the laser to the size and power suitable for air combat (ours, by the way, too), missiles are gradually losing ground and are losing effectiveness against electronic warfare .

                    The power of the AFAR emitter on our 25-35 fighters is kilowatt, it depends on the series (in fact, it’s possible more, ours love to underestimate the characteristics in publications), the AFAR Saar-5 corvette can give out kilowatts, radar systems like Hets - megawatts.
        2. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 23 November 2013 00: 46
          0
          Quote: leon-iv
          Well, how can 400 on 400 only a fat little AWACS fail. The fighter will not even be taken for escort.


          Not so simple, modern AWACS are crammed to the eyeballs with self-defense systems. Today, shooting down AWACS is like sinking an aircraft carrier; you need a salvo of 10-20 missiles. Some are deceived, some are drowned, we must take this into account.
          1. Rus2012
            Rus2012 23 November 2013 11: 57
            +1
            Quote: And Us Rat
            Today, shooting down AWACS is like sinking an aircraft carrier; you need a salvo of 10-20 missiles. Some are deceived, some are drowned, we must take this into account.

            and where was it checked? Where i.e. information of such exercises. O5 jamming "our planes" and "our radars" imitating the enemy? As, for example, the "invisibility" of the F117go and F22th, which are seen by non-national frequency radars ...
          2. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 23 November 2013 23: 03
            +2
            Quote: Rus2012
            Quote: And Us Rat
            Today, shooting down AWACS is like sinking an aircraft carrier; you need a salvo of 10-20 missiles. Some are deceived, some are drowned, we must take this into account.

            and where was it checked? Where i.e. information of such exercises. O5 jamming "our planes" and "our radars" imitating the enemy? As, for example, the "invisibility" of the F117go and F22th, which are seen by non-national frequency radars ...


            In the laboratories, this was checked, for example, you put a missile "X" in India, and India wants our radar station for these missiles (or for an adjacent system), ours say - give the missile for calibration, India quietly handed it over, ours took it apart to a screw, they measured, touched, rang each microchip, then collected and returned to India, and except for the radar, all the data on the missile with a two-fold margin (with the expectation of further upgrades) was added to the firmware or hardware (if necessary) of the Reconnaissance / identification and electronic warfare systems. 95% of military electronics released in the USSR / RF by one means or another ends up in our laboratories sooner or later. Why do you think the Yusovites only shove old stuff to all Papuans? Because the Papuans will sell or lend anything to anyone for a bribe. For example, the S-300 delivered to Cyprus? Supplied. Draw conclusions. If you want to close the Syrian sky for a short time - put there something that has not yet been sold for export (even outdated versions) .Because for decades studying someone's engineering school on trophies and having an advantage in this area, you can predict and create countermeasures for systems that this school is still only on the drawings.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 23 November 2013 00: 37
      +2
      Quote: Su24
      Quote: Excalibur
      One of the functions of the F-35 radar. This is a video presentation from Northrop Grumman. They do not give figures, but claim that from a safe distance.


      Those. from a distance of over 400 km ?? Something is hard to believe.


      Well, about the distance, I admit that the truth. The full-time AFAR (EL / M-2038), which is installed on our F-15, has a working range of 250 nautical miles, but it’s unrealistic to jam an air defense system with one aircraft from such a distance, there is simply no emitter power to reliably suppress radar from such distances you need a link in 8 aircraft (minimum) that simultaneously focus the emitters on the point necessary to suppress. And then the distance of the start of jamming, no more than 300 km, total suppression is possible with 120-150 km, and the radar electronics can burn such a link tightly no further than with 30-40 km, it’s easier to burn electronics in approaching missiles on the course, and in general to crush air defense with manned aircraft is a show off, dangerous and stupid, there are drones for this.
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 24 November 2013 07: 56
        0
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Established AFAR (EL / M-2038)


        Mistaken - EL / M-2058 Not exported, the previous version of EL / M-2052 Exported - in the photo. hi


  2. just exp
    just exp 22 November 2013 17: 31
    12
    and in an advertisement for powder, Tide said that he washes off absolutely everything.
  3. evil hamster
    evil hamster 22 November 2013 17: 32
    +4
    Quote: Excalibur
    One of the functions of the F-35 radar

    Yeah, yeah, jamming with a millimeter rador and centimeter, decimeter and meter radars are the same impreved United States technology, not muhra
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 22 November 2013 17: 37
      +5
      Well, in fact, the REB station there is very good, but it still salmon tuna compared with the aircraft and heavy HEAVY FIGHTERS. The power of the board is different and the core i7 processors will not help there because the laws of physics are the same.
      1. Excalibur
        Excalibur 22 November 2013 17: 58
        -3
        Quote: leon-iv
        core i7 processors will not help there

        Can the Xilinx FPGAs handle it?
        1. poly75
          poly75 22 November 2013 22: 48
          0
          Pliski we also have
    2. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 22 November 2013 21: 48
      0
      I heard that at the border we put radars aimed at each other, there the mouse will not fly.
  • Bronis
    Bronis 22 November 2013 15: 35
    12
    Quote: Excalibur
    The C-400 is a good system, but the F-35 will easily clog it with interference ...

    "And my folder, and my folder .... will score yours ..." - (c) Kolya, 3 years old.
    God save our gracious Queen! As the saying goes... wassat
    More creative troll. I want something historical ... something from Rezun, for example ...
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 22 November 2013 15: 37
    +6
    They showed you a cartoon and you believe. Now they’ll shoot another in Russia and show, you believe too?
    In general, I worked at a plant that makes Kolchuga radar. she is unprimier on a completely different principle.
    Вот вам ссылка http://www.vvkure.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=685&sid=95c4d2a7859566e82fd1db0ccae
    a659a
  • AVV
    AVV 22 November 2013 15: 37
    +6
    What kind of interference? His F-35 by this time, on drag.metals locals will disassemble !!!
  • evil hamster
    evil hamster 22 November 2013 17: 29
    +5
    Oga centimeter and decameter radars, he will score interference, where only such experts take you
  • APASUS
    APASUS 22 November 2013 19: 43
    +3
    Quote: Excalibur
    The S-400 is a good system, but the F-35 will easily clog it with interference ..

    I’m looking at the checkbox, then you have English, maybe you should ask your F-35 to test for a fuss So let's check .......... I bet they won’t give it, because if something goes wrong and the plane gets knocked down - WHO WILL BUY IT? That's just for this reason there is mass advertising in the press, but in fact he was not even allowed to go into battle in Libya.
    1. AVV
      AVV 22 November 2013 20: 30
      0
      Yes, even for that kind of money, and with so many flaws? How did a commercial aircraft make it an alternative to the F-22, but it did not live up to the expectations of its creators, and its partners will have to boil it in black !!! Do not sell, but boil it !! !
  • Patriot.ru.
    Patriot.ru. 22 November 2013 21: 34
    +2
    You can jam everything. And this is an ordinary computer picture that does not correspond to reality. In this picture, our radars did not even have the "blinking" mode turned on, this is when several stations emit in turn, synchronously.
  • Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 23 November 2013 00: 24
    0
    British Petroleum Forever))) II, Volkswagen))
  • Su24
    Su24 22 November 2013 17: 01
    +2
    S-400 they will not be sold, false rumors. As for the rest, it looks realistic.
    1. AVV
      AVV 22 November 2013 20: 35
      0
      You, in my opinion, read something wrong or not in this article or in the comments! There is no talk of selling the S-400, just read carefully !!!
      1. AVV
        AVV 22 November 2013 21: 15
        0
        For those who rip everything off in a row and for everyone, it’s a matter of frank piracy to sell something, tomorrow they will make money on it !!! Although there have been proposals to sell this complex !!!
  • Rus2012
    Rus2012 22 November 2013 14: 58
    +6
    Quote: Guun
    S-400 China will not be sold, and if sold, then in large quantities.

    They will sell, over time, why not?
    It's just that what is for export comes with the letter "E"
    And that explains a lot ...
    Those. range - 200-300km, height - 30-40km

    And for internal use:
    -range-400km, height -160-185km
    http://armstass.su/?page=article&aid=84164&cid=25
  • Siberian German
    Siberian German 22 November 2013 19: 35
    0
    fresh giving but hard to believe
  • Cherdak
    Cherdak 22 November 2013 14: 50
    10
    Quote: Yuri Ya.
    After a minimum time will be in China.



    Not really. There is a big suspicion that the French in their former colony have muddied all this - there is too much oil and gas in Algeria (they are among the world's ten). But the Big Brother is completely mad and can force NATO to open another non-fly "spring". Here are the paddling pools and dodge.

    And then they themselves will rummage that there the Russians thought up a new one in modern murder ...
  • Hunghuz
    Hunghuz 22 November 2013 16: 58
    0
    hi They’ll sell it))) The case of the bad guys and Tolya Serdyukov is flourishing .......)
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 23 November 2013 20: 10
    +1
    Quote: Yuri I.
    Damn, the S-300 would have been enough for them. After a minimum time will be in China.


    You sho count on your head amuse.

    I say it 1001 times. The point is not in the letters of the name, but in the engineering school, which is not for sale with equipment.

    Algerians themselves can copy and bring with a file, but there is one caveat. The software is encrypted and installed with the condition of inviolability, that is, when you try to open the electronics, self-destruction will occur ... etc. etc ...

    Henceforth, do not repeat for stupid stupid things ...
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 23 November 2013 23: 28
      0
      Quote: Geisenberg
      The point is not in the letters of the name, but in the engineering school, which is not for sale with equipment.

      An engineering school may not be for sale, but it does not change the essence. Chinese copies are flying and apparently knocking something. Even worse than ours (maybe they just sorted the export version), but they are successfully sold to some countries. The same Turkish tender to take. It would not make sense would not copy. Some barriers may have circumvented that one person came up with there is always another to understand this.
      Quote: Cherdak
      Just not

      Just yes. They do not care who muddied where and where, they dig everywhere. They can go directly to the United States and Russia, for example, I remember some kind of scandal involving the sale of avionics blocks from SU-27. Abroad, it’s just in my opinion that it’s easier to agree with the locals, not their production.
  • Guun
    Guun 22 November 2013 13: 27
    +8
    To sell S-400 in Algeria - the West will certainly take advantage of this and learn a lot about the system.
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 22 November 2013 13: 37
      13
      Quote: Guun
      To sell S-400 in Algeria - the West will certainly take advantage of this and learn a lot about the system.

      The news is most likely a duck. Since the S-400 is not exported, until they equip their own army.
      1. Migari
        Migari 22 November 2013 14: 06
        +6
        I agree that we are now installing the S-300 in the CIS countries, and then all of a sudden you want a lot, but they can’t see the S-400.
        1. vadson
          vadson 22 November 2013 14: 35
          +4
          maybe they will get it in about five to seven years, we’ll see what pace of deliveries to the troops will be when the diamond men build and launch two air defense plants. it may well be like in a fairy tale and we will equip ourselves and sell to friends ...
      2. poquello
        poquello 22 November 2013 19: 57
        +5
        Something sucks you have with commerce.

        "As for the S-400, this year we will hand over the sixth and seventh regiments. They will be delivered to the troops," Menshchikov said.

        He also said that as the technology was mastered in the troops, certain improvements were made at the S-400 air defense system: “The four hundred that are now surrendering are significantly different from the first systems that were in 2007” .......
        .....
        And to make it easier for the Russian military to master new sophisticated equipment, the country's defense minister has already decided to transfer the first S-400 complexes produced in 2007 to training centers. "

        Yes, and the S-500 is on the way.
    2. neri73-r
      neri73-r 22 November 2013 18: 51
      0
      In this case, Algeria becomes a serious geopolitical force, since it will be able to completely block the Strait of Gibraltar and the western Mediterranean.
      ................. and democracy and freedom will immediately come to this country, a no-fly zone, bombing and occupation by the best and kind NATO soldiers, including French, will be conducted !! !!! Infa-Breeeechnya !!! hi who will allow them ???
  • Alez
    Alez 22 November 2013 13: 28
    +2
    Good news. The military-industrial complex is the engine of Russian trade.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 November 2013 13: 49
      +6
      Quote: Alez
      Good news.

      And what’s good about them, From 400 to export fool
      1. Onyx
        Onyx 22 November 2013 13: 57
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        And what’s good about them, From 400 to export fool

        Of course, the news, if true, is not very good. But many believe everything they write. Just recently they wrote that Russia will not modernize the Tu-160. Wrote some kind of English edition. And what do you think? Nobody even doubted the veracity of the information. only wrote that "everyone will drink" and tomorrow we will be left without a nuclear shield. And yesterday there was an interview with Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force Bondarev, where he said that the Tu-160 and Tu-95 are being modernized according to plan.
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 22 November 2013 15: 52
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what’s good about them, From 400 to export

        According to the S-400, not only Algeria was contacting. But all these supplies are a matter of the future. Today, the S-400 is not included in the export nomenclature. Yes, and the option will be export, as on the S-300 now.
      3. Praetorian
        Praetorian 22 November 2013 18: 16
        0
        It was said with irony, if you did not notice.
      4. poquello
        poquello 22 November 2013 20: 31
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Alez
        Good news.

        And what’s good about them, From 400 to export fool

        And what is bad? Algeria will buy the best system that you can buy now, money will probably roll decent. Others will want such shoes for themselves - our market. And with the S-400 they are different, and those that we need now remain with us.
      5. The fat man
        The fat man 22 November 2013 23: 13
        0
        the c-400 wave can be exported, because they say on the S-500 approach and instead of the S-350 TOP-s
        1. poquello
          poquello 23 November 2013 00: 39
          +1
          Quote: Fat Man
          the c-400 wave can be exported, because they say on the S-500 approach and instead of the S-350 TOP-s

          Doesn’t it bother you that torus is a marching melee vehicle?
          1. The fat man
            The fat man 23 November 2013 02: 12
            0
            Well then, if not TOR let there beech
            in any case, there will be a replacement for more modern types of air defense systems
      6. ramzes1776
        ramzes1776 23 November 2013 03: 25
        +1
        Before you equip other countries with modern weapons, you need to rearm your army. And we have single-handed deliveries to the army, and the S-400 in the Russian army has only 10 divisions http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D1-400
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 22 November 2013 13: 56
      +3
      Corvettes of the "Guarding" type are in service with the Russian Navy and are considered one of the best in their class ... rying: do you know how much they cost in service with Russia? so I'll tell you two! and only in the Baltic ... "smart" under the number 531 and "guarding" 530 ... they were still waiting for the "lively", persistent "modern", and thundering "but .... did not wait yet ....
      1. PLO
        PLO 22 November 2013 21: 24
        +1
        Brisk since May 16, 2013 as part of the BF
        Resistant already like ZHI started, but with the Far Eastern corvettes everything is still dull

        although there are enough problems with these corvettes
  • Tarpon
    Tarpon 22 November 2013 13: 28
    +3
    For the country's air defense it is planned to purchase long-range S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems

    Want is not harmful. Who will sell them.
  • Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 22 November 2013 13: 35
    +1
    The message of the Internet publication does not mean anything, we will wait for information from official sources.
  • Galinanp
    Galinanp 22 November 2013 13: 38
    +4
    Egypt "Topol M" requests, Algeria S-400. Appetite however, no matter how saliva chokes.
    1. alexng
      alexng 22 November 2013 13: 48
      +7
      And who did not request SS-20? You can send it on your own.
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 22 November 2013 13: 44
    +1
    Not intended ... Or they will receive only the export version, which is not yet available.
  • awg75
    awg75 22 November 2013 13: 46
    +4
    don’t worry so much --- naturally nobody will sell S-400 (and especially Algeria). zhurnalyugi you still and not write
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 22 November 2013 13: 55
    +2
    It seems to me that they are shouting. Torah is understandable, but with 400 ... the Turks also wanted him, but they showed them half their hands. I think, and here they wishful thinking request
  • donavi49
    donavi49 22 November 2013 13: 57
    +4
    The article is about a new megacontract with Algeria on 6,2 lard of money. There will be a package of everything, but for sure what they will buy while they are discussing it. Algeria wants to become the launch operator of C-400 and Su-34 - this is true. According to the corvettes, they have long abandoned 20380 and have already ordered in Europe, but they still want 3x636 boats.
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv 22 November 2013 14: 45
      +4
      . According to the corvettes, they long ago refused 20380 and have already ordered in Europe, but they want 3x636 more boats.

      And I understand them, nefig was to make such a corvette / frigate.
      The normal corvette OBV and a beam would be muddied.
      Yes, they would build 11356 in large batches working out weapons for 22350 and you look, he would go into the series faster.
      And yes, they will not be able to sell a 400-ku to them, and they don’t even need 300-PMU2.
      Threat and I recommend that you pay attention in Algeria no one wants to establish democracy / Sharia, that’s what Russian weapons and the determination of the authorities do.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 22 November 2013 15: 36
        +5
        Regarding democracy - yes, it is necessary to collect a global coalition and it’s not a fact that they are quickly gored. In addition to PMU2, there is also Su-30MKA. Yes, and the teeth of the coalition can show, for 4 Varshavyanka, 2 of which are brand new.

        Unrest they crush in the bud - planting all instigators and leaders. And the power they have for 14 years does not change even formally.

        As for jihadists, we recently tried to run into a group under one hundred goals, tried to capture a gas object, took a bunch of hostages (under 1000 at the object but near 600 they themselves could run away or hide), hoping for negotiations. But not fate. For the negotiators flew to Mi-24, Su-24, and then the guardsmen with armored vehicles pulled themselves up. Forty hostages were lost, but all the militants were killed, and the rest were recaptured.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 22 November 2013 16: 08
          +4
          For the negotiators flew onto the Mi-24, Su-24, and then the guardsmen with armored vehicles pulled themselves up. Forty hostages were lost, but all the militants were killed, and the rest were recaptured.

          In during take over the experience of the evil empire))))
  • Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 22 November 2013 14: 28
    +1
    Well, then we will have oranges for the new year ... at least ..
    1. vadson
      vadson 22 November 2013 14: 37
      +7
      I'm already tuned in to the Syrian ...
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 22 November 2013 14: 33
    +5
    Quote: "While China has sharply reduced purchases ..."
    Of course, China is copying Russian models of military equipment, not only for itself, but also selling on the global arms market. It is necessary to block the supply of the latest funds to China. In the future, it will pay off. Otherwise, tricky ... drunk Chinese will thrive at the expense of Russian developments.
    1. poquello
      poquello 22 November 2013 20: 41
      +1
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Quote: "While China has sharply reduced purchases ..."
      Of course, China is copying Russian models of military equipment, not only for itself, but also selling on the global arms market. It is necessary to block the supply of the latest funds to China. In the future, it will pay off. Otherwise, tricky ... drunk Chinese will thrive at the expense of Russian developments.

      Dongfeng cunning Chinese produce, like poplars were mentioned here.
      And about the latest completely agree.
  • major071
    major071 22 November 2013 14: 37
    +5
    Could write both With 500 and With 600, obviously the one who said this in Algeria, wishful thinking or not at all in the subject. As for the rest, everything is fine, the most important thing is that the money should be transferred. good
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 22 November 2013 14: 52
      +5
      Quote: major071
      most importantly, that money should be transferred
    2. Ivan Petrovich
      Ivan Petrovich 22 November 2013 15: 03
      +1
      in the form of yellow sweet and sour balls
  • sxn278619
    sxn278619 22 November 2013 15: 10
    +2
    Again on credit?
    But what about the classic - "money in the evening, chairs in the morning"
  • Muadipus
    Muadipus 22 November 2013 15: 34
    0
    ... Algeria intends to purchase a large batch of Russian weapons. We are talking about the latest and best examples of military equipment. It is planned to purchase long-range S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems and Tor mobile systems for the country's air defense. ...
    ... All this airborne equipment will be used to attack terrorist groups in the south of the country. ...
    I do not believe!
    1. S-400 most likely will not be sold
    2. if they sell, then a couple will definitely go to disassembly
    3. muddy story.
  • typhoon7
    typhoon7 22 November 2013 15: 48
    0
    The S-400 is certainly too much, but for everything else, the Algerians have done well, they are not weakly arming themselves. To the author plus.
  • sasharos
    sasharos 22 November 2013 16: 02
    +2
    The main thing here is that it doesn’t work out, as with Malaysia, when our caring government took food poison-palm oil, banned in Europe! —The business of Russian oligarchs for paying for the Su-27.
  • Rus2012
    Rus2012 22 November 2013 19: 08
    +2
    Quote: Excalibur
    Can the Xilinx FPGAs handle it?

    Faku - see ?!
    Against an EMP charge, only equipment on radio tubes and reed switches can handle :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    1. Armata
      Armata 22 November 2013 20: 13
      0
      Interesting. Everyone screams only for With 400. And who was going to sell them for example Т90СМ (Tagilets)? So these tanks are not export at all. And so it’s all 1 done.
      1. Onyx
        Onyx 22 November 2013 20: 30
        +1
        Quote: Mechanic
        Interesting. Everyone screams only for With 400. And who was going to sell them for example Т90СМ (Tagilets)? So these tanks are not export at all. And so it’s all 1 done.

        The news seems to be completely crap. What's with Armata, by the way?
        1. Armata
          Armata 22 November 2013 21: 18
          +2
          Quote: Onyx
          The news seems to be completely crap. What's with Armata, by the way?
          Nothing and a bow on the side. Soon this project will become just an advertising brand of our government. By the way, they didn’t notice that they promised to put the armature closer to the end of the presidency of GDP at this time?
      2. patsantre
        patsantre 23 November 2013 00: 31
        0
        The T-90MS (and not SM) is just an export one, it will not even be bought by our army.
        1. Armata
          Armata 23 November 2013 12: 12
          +1
          Well, yes the Internet rules. So then the only supply for India is called T90SI
  • alexpro66
    alexpro66 22 November 2013 23: 06
    0
    Quote: Mechanic
    Quote: Onyx
    The news seems to be completely crap. What's with Armata, by the way?
    Nothing and a bow on the side. Soon this project will become just an advertising brand of our government. By the way, they didn’t notice that they promised to put the armature closer to the end of the presidency of GDP at this time?

    Well, our government has more significant brands in the field of self-promotion! And no matter how Armata is there .. And the idle talk of the Mechanic is due to the lack of at least some kind of information about the current state of affairs, the Internet is empty on this subject, is it just that the boob with UVZ has done stupid things))
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 23 November 2013 00: 12
      0
      I support. And what a dunce with UVZ?
      1. Armata
        Armata 23 November 2013 12: 10
        +2
        Quote: Onyx
        I support. And what a dunce with UVZ?
        If this is about me, then this subject is more literate from an Internet. He often gives examples from other sites, but the result is 0. He cannot even answer simple questions.
  • propolsky
    propolsky 22 November 2013 23: 20
    +1
    The guys are on a grand scale: both the 400s and the Su-34s (they themselves have not yet flown!), And the Yak-130s (we are just starting to look at them ourselves), etc. etc. In princepe these should not be copied, if only the aforementioned version with China? Well, the market is promising!
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 23 November 2013 01: 33
    0
    Why, the author, speak about known facts, even logically: a long-range missile for 400 --- is it there? Otalnoe has little interest. Does it shoot 400-kav sector of the declared range? Yes, No --- excuses are not accepted. "When cast iron turns out to be irido-radium metal groups (be silent Comrade Misanthrope, so it is necessary bully We would have to replace the kits ourselves, what is the article about?
  • akv0571
    akv0571 23 November 2013 05: 04
    0
    Selling C400 abroad, I think, depends on at what stage the C500 is now.
  • individual
    individual 23 November 2013 12: 45
    0
    Quote:
    "It is planned to purchase from two to four squadrons of Su-34 bombers. In addition to the existing Mi-24 attack helicopters, the Algerian Air Force would like to receive three squadrons of new Mi-28s. The Yak-130 can also be used as light attack aircraft. great interest. All these aerial vehicles will be used to attack terrorist groups in the south of the country. "

    The whole of northern Africa, taught by the bitter experience of Libya, primarily seeks to protect its airspace. It is planned to purchase long-range S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems and Tor mobile systems for the country's air defense. The Torahs must cover the air defense positions from precision weapons, as well as important government facilities.
    We write terrorists, we assume what is on the mind (who is the main terrorist) "Axes" of NATO and the United States to those who actually possess high-precision weapons.
    At this difficult time, silence in Latin America surprises, where anti-American sentiments are strong, where artificial aggression of military aggression can be expected and there is no progress in the procurement of modern weapons to protect its sovereignty, especially air defense.
  • fumanchu
    fumanchu 24 November 2013 20: 10
    0
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    Neither S-400 nor SU-34 will sell them. Not enough for ourselves. Production capabilities are not so great.
    Until the rearmament of the Air Force and Air Defense is complete, nothing will happen (well, there can be full helicopters and Torahs). But will there be a question at all? S-400 is best not to sell at all. For archi is an important thing, at the moment the best in the world. And giving yourself more expensive to the Papuans will come out. They will resell them to the Jews and write.

    So let the lip roll up again.
  • kelevra
    kelevra 14 December 2013 12: 01
    0
    But it seems to me that it is dangerous to send such systems to Algeria, and indeed to unstable countries. The same Americans, they can easily capture a couple of installations and begin to research them, we first need to think about the safety of technology, only then about making money.