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The cause of the collapse of the Kazakh MiG-31 was poor-quality repairs at a Russian plant.

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The cause of the collapse of the Kazakh MiG-31 was poor-quality repairs at a Russian plant.



According to the commission on the investigation of the collapse of a military aircraft near Karaganda, technical problems on the aircraft occurred as a result of a violation of the technology of installation work during the repair of the aircraft at the 514 aircraft repair plant in the city of Rzhev.
The results of the investigation of the crash of the MiG-31 declined to comment on the Rzhev aircraft repair plant.

On April 23, in the Karaganda region, during a scheduled night training flight due to equipment failure, the MiG-31 crashed. The crew ejected, while the crew commander, Colonel Marat Edigeev (commander of military unit 50185) - died, the navigator Major Ruslan Galimzyanov survived. As noted in the main military prosecutor's office, during the investigation a large amount of investigative actions and a number of forensic examinations were carried out, including those carried out by the Research and Development Center for Maintenance and Repair aviation RF technicians.

"Based on the findings of Russian experts, the cause of the crash was the disconnection of the steering gear due to the spontaneous unscrewing of its fastening nut. According to the conclusion of the accident investigation commission, technical problems occurred as a result of a violation of the installation technology during the repair of the aircraft on 514 aircraft repair the city of Rzhev of the Russian Federation, held at the beginning of this year, "- said in a statement department.

It is reported that the question of sending a criminal case to the competent authorities of the Russian Federation for further investigation is currently being considered.
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  1. Oskar
    Oskar 22 November 2013 07: 17
    +6

    Again counterfeit spare parts and hand ... employees?
    1. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 22 November 2013 10: 35
      -8
      But everyone is sure that the matter is in poor-quality repair, and not in the flight personnel? Are the Russians to blame again?
      1. andrejwz
        andrejwz 22 November 2013 10: 57
        +8
        Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
        Again, the Russians are to blame?

        It is necessary to be objective, and she has no national negligence. Investigate and strictly, very strictly punish those responsible. The quality of Russian military products should be proved by deed and not by shoving off responsibility for bungling.
        1. ekzorsist
          ekzorsist 22 November 2013 20: 46
          -1
          For the sake of objectivity ... I doubt the competence and sleight of service personnel in Kazakhstan ... well, there are no technical educational institutions in Kazakhstan - NO !!!
          There are various universities in the prosecutor’s office, in taxes, in the history of Kazakhstan (it’s just sacred - don’t bother !!!), in customs ... but just Uncle Vasya is a plumber - it’s already difficult to find (just smart, and not those idiots that after schools stamp on the labor exchange).
    2. Aliv
      Aliv 22 November 2013 15: 20
      0
      Original Aeroflot ad however. Capitalism however. Some save on employees and maintenance, others make loot on punctures of other companies. And both of them do not care about our lives.
  2. TRex
    TRex 22 November 2013 07: 21
    19
    General laxity and slovenliness ... The nuts on the drives, even near the garden trolley, must be "countered" ... Note: the MiG 31 is a very tried and tested device, so the prosecutor's office should have specific questions to the executors - after all, a person died!
    And we still have spaceships lying around like ripe pears ... Eh, a plaque-fly, there’s no mustachioed on you ...
    1. tomket
      tomket 22 November 2013 07: 34
      0
      We apparently think in factories that autumn should be harvested, let them fall like apples.
    2. VAF
      VAF 22 November 2013 08: 38
      +8
      Quote: TRex
      General slackness and sloppiness ...


      I agree completely, + soldier ! But still add .. FRAMES !!! It is frames, and not the number of personnel.
      As Sashka wrote below in his comment-FRAMES-ABC, but when they are not there, then request only remains-lucky-no luck.

      And I didn’t catch up yesterday — yesterday in Rostov another emergency landing of Bobik 737-500, Uteyr company, returned to Rostov after take-off due to the alarm about the depressurization of the passenger compartment and the alarm about the opening of the front passenger compartment door.
      He sat down in normal mode, on the ground they confirmed the sensor’s failure, the plane was taken off the flight and 2-day (how many hours I don’t know) regulations will be held
      1. TRex
        TRex 22 November 2013 10: 45
        +4
        Damn, Seryozha! But you have to fly - the country is huge. This is not great Lithuania or Poland. Me to maman one way 3500 km. I flew in these "Bobiks", as you say - the cars were worn out ten years ago, and our aircraft on local airlines are still those garbage dumps. In winter, from Nizhnevartovsk to the Yak-40 - the escape hatch smelled so bad, wow ... half of the passengers sat in blankets like Eskimos ... They pissed off Tsushima.
    3. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 22 November 2013 10: 14
      +2
      Yes, not to lock the nut in aviation, it’s the same thing that you can’t wipe the ass after the toilet.
      What kind of specialists work at a military aircraft repair plant?
      Could it be?
    4. Aliv
      Aliv 22 November 2013 15: 38
      0
      And self-locking nuts are more expensive, for sure they are in short supply at the plant. Locksmith master- "Mikhalych, I need a lock nut for 10". Master locksmith- "Engineers, scientists are fighting to reduce the mass of aircraft! And you hung it all over with locknuts. Look in that box. You can find it." Fantasy, of course, but something like this is done everywhere. I worked in a carpool. So there have never been split pins (apparently very expensive). So on our tanker, the braking rod fell off, fortunately it slowed down the parking lot. Later, the steering linkage of the dump truck got loose. Miraculously, I did not drive into the crowd of people. And you think something has changed? The foreman said put the old cotter pins. This is the reality.
  3. makarov
    makarov 22 November 2013 07: 29
    +5
    A cheap penny, and what are the consequences ?!
    Here it’s not homosexual, and it’s not some kind of spies that are to blame, or even the system, but ordinary sloppiness and pofuism.
  4. saag
    saag 22 November 2013 07: 29
    +2
    Yes, the nut was unscrewed in aviation, and even spontaneously it is generally nonsense, the nuts do not go there individually :-)
    1. sashka
      sashka 22 November 2013 10: 57
      +5
      Quote: saag
      Yes, the nut was unscrewed in aviation, and even spontaneously

      All absolutely all nuts in Aviation are counterbalanced. And there are people like controllers. This is the person who is always looking at your back. Moreover, to the soul .. He checks the "tolerance" for unscrewing even one nut .. It's all about the frames .. How many folders of documents had to be read in order to simply squeeze the bearing from the "nothing" meaningless traction ..
  5. sashka
    sashka 22 November 2013 07: 33
    +3
    Cadres decide everything. The true truth. And when they are not?
    1. alone
      alone 22 November 2013 20: 55
      +1
      Quote: Sasha
      .And when they are not?


      and when they are gone there’s nothing to solve No.
      1. sashka
        sashka 27 November 2013 14: 26
        0
        Quote: lonely
        and when they are gone there’s nothing to solve

        This is not an argument. EVERYTHING IS EQUAL TO DO WHAT_ SHOULD ,,
  6. Unisonic
    Unisonic 22 November 2013 07: 33
    +6
    This is not the case. And not even corruption. T.N. the mustachioed, aka Stalin, would have approached the question differently from how many people imagine. Stalin said: Cadres decide everything. Not executions or forced labor camps.
    So these frames are simply not there now. Build at least a thousand factories - and who will work for them? Vocational education in the country has been destroyed, and higher education in the country is a kind of parody. That is, there are no personnel, those who are already tired of the Soviet temper and will very soon go to another world. And they have already been replaced by "just anybody". But so far 50/50.
    Hence, the Migi fall, and the Mace falls again, and the Proton falls because it has reached the point that even these polarity are not able to observe these frames.

    What happens when anyone gets 90 against 10 Soviet ... Well, can you imagine. During the parade on Red Square, tanks will ignite spontaneously, bridges of missile systems will break in half, etc.

    ps I still have doubts about modern Topols and Yars. They test rockets produced in the early 90s. When the test passes and they say - the test has confirmed the full combat readiness and effectiveness in terms of service life. Even the new Yars - there is only a new head. And the tests are carried out in a bundle "new head - old power unit, ie rocket".
    It is logical to assume that, as with Bulava, most of the Topols and Yars put into service in the period from 2003 to 2013 will simply "fall" before reaching the target.
    1. ekzorsist
      ekzorsist 22 November 2013 20: 53
      +2
      Well done !!! Comrade !!!
      Speaking right . Technical education as such is simply gherily.
      And what is replacing the older generation has hands from the priests and in the head there is only wind. The institutes, in honor of what the hell are, were renamed into universities, but the truth was neither added to the students nor the teachers ’sense, nor the sense, nor the benefit, except in Kazakhstan it became a feeding trough and good business.
  7. Canep
    Canep 22 November 2013 07: 37
    +8
    In fact, the disaster, here on the site, Kazakh technicians were called almost Papuans, but in fact the culprits in Rzhev. We kindly request the next time to wait for the results of the investigation.
    1. sashka
      sashka 22 November 2013 12: 10
      +2
      Not the fact that THIS is true .. Agree. In this case, all other words have no meaning ..
      1. alatau_09
        alatau_09 22 November 2013 17: 22
        +4
        "Based on the conclusions of Russian experts, ..." - not ours, but your experts admit the sloppiness with the fatal outcome of our pilot ... Is this article carefully read? or do they scratch their tongues?
    2. ekzorsist
      ekzorsist 22 November 2013 21: 00
      0
      "... Kazakh technicians were called almost Papuans ..."
      Sorry, who is this - "Kazakh technicians"? I apologize, but (!!!) "Kazakh technicians" can only saw budget money! There are practically no technical universities as such in Kazakhstan. But as well as production and industry.
  8. Unisonic
    Unisonic 22 November 2013 07: 46
    +2
    Quote: Oskar

    Again counterfeit spare parts and hand ... employees?

    In fairness, it should be noted that Dorenko, in his usual manner, goes too far about aviation security in the Russian Federation:

    In 2012 year worldwide ~ 500 people died in aviation accidents.
    In 2012, in Russia, ~ 48 people died in air crashes.
    In 2012, Russian carriers transported 74.000.000 people back and forth.

    74.000.000 passengers were transported, of which 48 were killed. Is it Dorenko's civilization-degraded "white Africa-Russia"?

    ps in 2013 in Russia, the plane crash in Kazan is the only one. Just 50 people died right away.
    1. Oskar
      Oskar 22 November 2013 07: 56
      +3
      Dorenko loves this, I agree. Knows darkness! But here is essentially right.
      1. Evgenij.
        Evgenij. 22 November 2013 08: 43
        -2
        Yes he bastard, makes a name for himself in the tragedy
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 22 November 2013 09: 00
          +7
          quote-In the Karaganda region on 23 on April, during the execution of scheduled night training flights due to equipment failure, the MiG-31 crashed. The crew ejected, while the crew commander Colonel Marat Edigeev (commander of the military unit 50185) was killed, the navigator Major Ruslan Galimzyanov survived.

          A blessed memory to M. Edigeev and R. Galimzyanov a speedy recovery.

          quote-The results of the investigation of the crash of the MiG-31 declined to comment on the Rzhevsky aircraft repair plant.

          Well why, already commented.

          Aircraft repair plant rejected Kazakhstan's findings on the causes of the MiG-31 crash

          The management of the Rzhevsky 514 aircraft repair plant, where the MiG-31 fighter crashed in Kazakhstan was being repaired, refused to accept the findings of the Kazakhstani investigation, according to which the cause of the crash was a poor-quality repair. This November 21 reports "Interfax".
          Tarasov also said that the commission to investigate the causes of the crash did not include representatives of the MiG Russian Aircraft Corporation and the 514 aircraft repair plant, although this is implied by the contract. He noted that representatives of both organizations arrived in Kazakhstan the day after the plane crash, but “after the departure of the main group, the remaining representatives of the RSK guarantee group and our plant, under various pretexts, was not allowed at the airport. ”

          Finally, the terms of reference for the research center of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, which conducted the study, were also developed by the Kazakh side without experts from MiG and the 514 factory. “Additional research will be conducted on newly discovered circumstances,” Tarasov concluded.
          http://lenta.ru/news/2013/11/21/disagree/


          citation-It is reported that the issue of sending a criminal case under investigation to the competent authorities of the Russian Federation for further investigation is currently being considered.

          I think this is the most ideal solution to put an end to all kinds of disputes for the simple reason that a lot of questions have accumulated.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 22 November 2013 20: 34
            +1
            Well, again, the Russians and the Kazakhs are curious about "who is to blame?" And the question should rather be "what to do so that this does not happen again?" And in general, the person died, show at least a little respect.
            And let the professionals find out the reason. If they are really professionals, they’ll figure it out.
            1. sashka
              sashka 27 November 2013 11: 39
              0
              Quote: Nagan
              And let the professionals find out the reason

              I disagree. There are no more professionals. Who? Will "decide"? Successful managers? For me this is not a critical moment ... and not an argument. It is a pity for people, while you will "decide" there
    2. studentmati
      studentmati 22 November 2013 21: 06
      0
      I didn’t search - everything was all about nothing, a continuous PR.
    3. sashka
      sashka 27 November 2013 11: 26
      0
      Quote: Unisonic
      The plane crash in Kazan is the only one. Just 50 people died right away.

      do you REALLY THINK THIS IS "LITTLE".? About times, About morals ..
  9. scientist
    scientist 22 November 2013 08: 51
    -3
    In the investigation of aviation accidents there is a pattern:
    If an accident happened to a civilian vessel, then the airlines are doing everything to write it off to the pilots' mistake, otherwise huge fines, compensation and loss of markets.
    If an emergency occurs with a military aircraft, the military leadership does everything possible and impossible to attribute the accident to equipment, otherwise the family of the deceased pilot will not receive pensions and compensations, which will immediately affect the morale of the remaining pilots.
    This is one of the many corporate conspiracies in Kazakhstan that Altynbayev introduced in the army. Therefore, there are many more accidents in military aviation in Kazakhstan than in Russia.
    1. Lindon
      Lindon 22 November 2013 09: 26
      +6
      Quote: scientist
      Therefore, there are many more accidents in military aviation in Kazakhstan than in Russia.


      Do not indulge in statistics? And then somehow unfounded. And meanwhile:
      In December 31, the MiG-2012 aircraft underwent another major overhaul at the 514 aircraft repair plant in Rzhev of the Russian Federation, is under warranty service, and after the repair was completed, it flew for 42 hours. During scheduled flights on April 23, an 4 departure was performed on the plane, and a crash occurred on the 5 departure.

      The crew commander is a second-class military pilot - the commander of the air base, Colonel Edigeev Marat, a graduate of the Air Force Academy named after Yu.A. Gagarin, has a total flying time of 1600 hours, on this type of aircraft 450 hours. The pilot was prepared for flying in all weather conditions, day and night.

      According to the testimony of the pilot Ruslan Galimzyanov, after turning in a horizontal flight at an altitude of 3000 meters, the aircraft began to sharply rotate to the left with a tight spiral. The crew commander tried to get out of the bank, as well as prevent the car from falling into the nearby village. At an altitude of 1000 meters, he decided to bail out. The first to catapult was Major Galimzyanov Ruslan and, after 0,4 seconds, Colonel Edigeev Marat, who, until the very last moment, drove the car away from the village. Since there was a large vertical speed and a large diving angle, the pilot Marat Edigeev did not have enough height to open the parachute
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 22 November 2013 10: 09
        +6
        Marat iman salamat bolsyn. A man of 0.4 seconds was not enough to stay alive. Who's guilty ? Now, each side will strongly accuse each other of the general dancing on the bones of the pilot.
        1. avt
          avt 22 November 2013 11: 52
          +2
          Quote: Semurg
          A man of 0.4 seconds was not enough to stay alive. Who's guilty ?

          The one who did not lock the nut, saving time and time, the second one who did not check the work for him.
          Quote: Semurg
          Now, each side will strongly accuse each other of the general dancing on the bones of the pilot.

          What is this about ?? Such things are determined at once, for starters, just look at who is the last and at which repair plant it got into the unit, well, then boil it with your mind on a national basis, well, if now some people cannot. But it’s possible to boil your brain on a global scale right away .
          1. Semurg
            Semurg 22 November 2013 18: 14
            0
            Quote: avt

            , well, and then boil with your mind on a national basis, well, if now some people cannot. But you can, and so, immediately boil with your brain on a global scale.

            what is it about? about your problems?
      2. scientist
        scientist 22 November 2013 10: 35
        -2
        Quote: Lindon
        Do not indulge in statistics

        These statistics are everywhere. But if you take the last 10 years, then:
        14 October 2003 - The MiG-31 crashed in 14: 54 Moscow time in the area of ​​the village of Borovaya, Staritsky district, Tver Region. No victims
        1 June 2005 - MiG-31 aircraft in the Tver region got off the strip and burned out as a result of a fire. The crew was not injured.
        16 February 2007 - MiG-31 crashed in Kazakhstan. The crew commander captain D. Fedotov and navigator-pilot Major Leontyev A. A. both pilots died.
        12 November 2008 - in Kazakhstan, the MiG-31 emergency crashed, the landing gear broke.
        April of 2008 of the year - at the 21 minute of the flight, at an altitude of 16213 m and true speed of 2414 km / h, the hinged part of the lantern of the first cabin was disrupted and the two cabins of the MiG-31 aircraft were depressurized. For their courage and high professionalism, the crew consisting of lieutenant colonels Vladimir Prikhodko and Konstantin Kozitsky was presented to state awards.
        10 March 2010 - at the airport of Kotlas (Arkhangelsk region), when landing, it rolled out onto the side lane and the MiG-31 fighter turned over. During the accident, the pilot and navigator were injured.
        November 19 2010 - the MiG-31, which took off from the airfield without a combat load, presumably due to a technical malfunction, went into a tailspin and crashed at 13.06 at 60 km northeast of the take-off point (Chusovsky region). The crew ejected.
        6 September 2011 - MiG-31 crashed a few minutes after takeoff in the area of ​​Bolshoye Savino airport. Crew members: the commander of the ship, pilot of the 1 class, Lieutenant Colonel S. Yu. Stolpyansky, and the navigator of the 1 class, Major A. V. Gorbachev, died.
        On April 23, 2013, about 22 hours 45 minutes in the vicinity of the village of Prostornoye, Shetsky district, Karaganda region, during a training flight, the MIG-31 crash board number 02 under the control of Colonel M. Edigeev (air base commander) and navigator Major Galimzyanova R. R. (his deputy). The commander of the ship, Colonel Marat Edigeev, died.

        However, do not look at the number of incidents. You need to compare the averaged data of the ratio of the average raid on one incident. Because the number of raids in Russia and Kazakhstan has an order of magnitude difference, including on the MiG-31 after repair. But despite this, with the death of the crew in Russia there is only one case in 10 years, and in Kazakhstan there are two.
        1. Lindon
          Lindon 22 November 2013 13: 20
          0
          Quote: scientist
          Quote: Lindon
          Do not indulge in statistics

          These statistics are everywhere. But if you take the last 10 years, then:
          14 October 2003 - The MiG-31 crashed in 14: 54 Moscow time in the area of ​​the village of Borovaya, Staritsky district, Tver Region. No victims
          1 June 2005 - MiG-31 aircraft in the Tver region got off the strip and burned out as a result of a fire. The crew was not injured.
          16 February 2007 - MiG-31 crashed in Kazakhstan. The crew commander captain D. Fedotov and navigator-pilot Major Leontyev A. A. both pilots died.
          12 November 2008 - in Kazakhstan, the MiG-31 emergency crashed, the landing gear broke.
          April of 2008 of the year - at the 21 minute of the flight, at an altitude of 16213 m and true speed of 2414 km / h, the hinged part of the lantern of the first cabin was disrupted and the two cabins of the MiG-31 aircraft were depressurized. For their courage and high professionalism, the crew consisting of lieutenant colonels Vladimir Prikhodko and Konstantin Kozitsky was presented to state awards.
          10 March 2010 - at the airport of Kotlas (Arkhangelsk region), when landing, it rolled out onto the side lane and the MiG-31 fighter turned over. During the accident, the pilot and navigator were injured.
          November 19 2010 - the MiG-31, which took off from the airfield without a combat load, presumably due to a technical malfunction, went into a tailspin and crashed at 13.06 at 60 km northeast of the take-off point (Chusovsky region). The crew ejected.
          6 September 2011 - MiG-31 crashed a few minutes after takeoff in the area of ​​Bolshoye Savino airport. Crew members: the commander of the ship, pilot of the 1 class, Lieutenant Colonel S. Yu. Stolpyansky, and the navigator of the 1 class, Major A. V. Gorbachev, died.
          On April 23, 2013, about 22 hours 45 minutes in the vicinity of the village of Prostornoye, Shetsky district, Karaganda region, during a training flight, the MIG-31 crash board number 02 under the control of Colonel M. Edigeev (air base commander) and navigator Major Galimzyanova R. R. (his deputy). The commander of the ship, Colonel Marat Edigeev, died.

          However, do not look at the number of incidents. You need to compare the averaged data of the ratio of the average raid on one incident. Because the number of raids in Russia and Kazakhstan has an order of magnitude difference, including on the MiG-31 after repair. But despite this, with the death of the crew in Russia there is only one case in 10 years, and in Kazakhstan there are two.

          The selection shows that the fault is mainly due to a technical malfunction.
          And you don’t need to sing a song about not skilled pilots. It can be seen hacking techniques on the Russian MIG-31. In Russia there are more incidents - this is evident. Now give statistics about the flying hours - and then again affirm without charge.
        2. ekzorsist
          ekzorsist 22 November 2013 21: 12
          0
          So the level of training of the flight crew is completely different. And the preparation is also completely different. The flight time of the crews is also different. So training and practice are of great importance, very huge.
      3. scientist
        scientist 22 November 2013 10: 40
        0
        And here is what they are now writing in the Kazakh media:
        According to Tarasov, representatives of Russian enterprises under various pretexts were not allowed on the airfield to control and photograph airplane parts brought from the crash site.
        The agency’s interlocutor specified that the terms of reference for the study of aircraft parts and steering gears were also carried out unilaterally by the Kazakh side.
        "The results of the study are preliminary and have a number of contradictions," Tarasov added, noting that the data available to the company indicate the same position of the left and right halves of the aircraft's stabilizer in the final phase of flight, before hitting the ground.
        He emphasized that this testifies to the serviceability of the aircraft longitudinal control system.
        Read more: http://news.nur.kz/291382.html

        In addition, my friend works in the Main Flight Safety Directorate of the Republic of Kazakhstan. It’s just a pity to look at him sometimes, especially when the leadership of the Ministry of Defense bends down to the right cause of incidents.
        1. ekzorsist
          ekzorsist 22 November 2013 21: 14
          -2
          Well, what was required to prove - it was not without Kazakhstan shamans.
        2. Lindon
          Lindon 14 December 2013 11: 47
          +1
          MiG-31 crashed in the Primorsky Territory of Russia, reports RIA Novosti 14.12.2013 of the year

          "Previously, the MiG-31 fell due to a malfunction of the equipment," a source in the security forces told the agency, without specifying which particular malfunction caused the crash.

          The plane crashed 26 kilometers from the Central Angular Air Base near Vladivostok. According to preliminary data, there are no victims and destructions on the earth. Both pilots ejected.

          The MiG-31 took off from the Knevichi airfield at 5.07 Moscow time. According to the source, the fighter flew after repair work.
    2. ekzorsist
      ekzorsist 22 November 2013 21: 05
      0
      And you are absolutely RIGHT!
  10. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 22 November 2013 09: 21
    +2
    Now quality is of no importance to make cheaper and sell more expensive. So planes, helicopters fall, and trains still don’t fly well
  11. Ram chandra
    Ram chandra 22 November 2013 11: 48
    +3
    As far as I know the mentality of Kazakhstani pilots - they do everything strictly according to the rules. Do not risk how much in vain. They really appreciate the technique.
    1. ekzorsist
      ekzorsist 22 November 2013 21: 23
      +2
      Yah ?!? This is something new! "... the mentality of Kazakhstani pilots ..." has already appeared. And you take a look around - what happened to the airports! What have the aerodrome services turned into? Around the bazaar and trading. What kind of technical support are we talking about at all ?! If it came to ridiculousness, the airport was left without electricity, neither the long-distance drive nor hydrometeorology worked ..., but they turned on only when the government plane landed or Nazarbayev. And this is not unique! Techies (true techies who are in love with their business and care for it) were left in the support services once, twice, and it was too much, only managers and marketers remained.
  12. Cotras
    Cotras 22 November 2013 12: 46
    +2
    "Sparking gases, explosion welding, assembly sober."
    We have to assemble spacecraft, sometimes refer to the sleeves, but here the plane is not surprising.
    The culture of production, one-two, you can’t raise.

    And if so-

    “According to Tarasov, representatives of Russian enterprises, under various pretexts, were not allowed to the airfield to control and photograph aircraft parts brought from the crash site.
    The interlocutor of the agency specified that the terms of reference for the study of aircraft parts and steering gears were also carried out by the Kazakh side unilaterally. "

    That with claims, let them go to their wide, Kazakh steppe!
  13. alone
    alone 22 November 2013 20: 59
    +3
    I think it will be necessary to severely punish those who committed criminal negligence. And measures need to be tightened. Otherwise, it will have to be taut. People die because of boobs.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 22 November 2013 21: 29
      +5
      The price of life is someone's sloppiness, and a penny lock or cotter pin! The commander of the ship has eternal memory, fulfilled his duty to the end!
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 22 November 2013 21: 42
        +3
        Quote: Alex 241
        The price of life


        This is not slacking, but a loss of self-esteem, and self-respect in the first place. If I go to bed with the feeling that all assembly operations have been completed "from and to", then on the weekend I go to the park with my family without thinking about work. What could be easier? If you got down to business, then do it according to your conscience! Not satisfied with the salary, look for another job?
  14. ekzorsist
    ekzorsist 23 November 2013 19: 02
    +2
    That’s the problem, that the lords are there on verhu-oo-oo ... and they don’t give a damn about what’s down there ...
    Well, it’s no secret that for the sake of the captain what they just won’t do, I doubt that at the plant, whatever gouging would work (well, if only an obvious saboteur) would have made such an obvious blunder, and the OTC still exists and works.
    And even if everything is so clean and beautiful from the Kazakh side, then why didn’t the techies from the factory admit? By simple logic of things, on the contrary it was necessary to stick a muzzle - look the bastard, the nut is not twisted, and the seal on the block or compartment is - yours ?! What are you doing such a bastard !!!
    And here, for some reason, it’s the other way around, and it even turns out that they themselves managed to lure something there.
    I feel sorry for people, ordinary people, not those who scream at every corner - "Yes, we ... !!! Yes, I ... !!!" and not those on the verhu - they will not drown because Mr. but does not drown, but those who are just doing their job, BUT with their heads!
    1. scientist
      scientist 27 November 2013 11: 47
      -1
      You are absolutely right. Because, due to the ambitions of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan, where all the generals are shaking their seats, the most worthy officers fall under attack and this is not only in aviation. Technique does not forgive mistakes and it does not give a damn about the arrogance of generals who imagined themselves kings who get away with everything. It would be a pity if the rest of the pilots and the flight crew did not recognize the true cause of the catastrophe, and therefore could not do anything to prevent its recurrence.