Emergency stop

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Emergency stop

One of the persuasive arguments in favor of insane spending on media projects such as the Olympics, Universiade, World Cup or the APEC summit is the development of infrastructure in the area where the country's leadership intends to throw dust into the eyes of the world community.

The argument is serious - only here the Saturday catastrophe in Kazan just in such public relations shows the price of this seriousness. A beautiful and modern airport with a beautiful and modern system of security and service did not prevent the ancient rydvans from landing on the elegant runway (and now they are falling) with the appropriate service and staff. Today, for example, at the press conference of the general director of "Tatarstan" it turned out that the company has wage arrears to pilots and other employees. This is despite the fact that the average wages in regional companies are well lower than those of giants like Aeroflot or Transaero. One can imagine the mood with which people fly or service equipment in such conditions.

And with the airport itself is not so good - "Lufthansa", spitting on the constant problems with the airport in Kazan, refused this year from flights to the capital of Tatarstan in favor of Nizhny Novgorod and Perm. Apparently, the principle of "sharing should be" was not translated into German.

It seems that the shoals of PR projects, which by the time of delivery are carefully smeared, after the end of the event, begin to creep out so that it is no longer possible to hide them. And the crumbling roads in the Far East, and the Saturday disaster in Kazan ... Who knows what will happen after the Olympics - if even now stories are available, how exactly they drive in piles and save on strengthening the soil at a construction site ... Although if the goal is to scatter beads and to cut another trillion, then why not ...

The main problem of all these dust trapping projects is their total non-system. It is completely incomprehensible why Kazan, which was one of the centers of the Soviet aircraft industry, has a fleet of its aircraft, in which there is generally imported trash. Why Kazan, in which there is a leading university of aviation KAI, quoted at the level of the Moscow counterpart, has problems with servicing several dozen aircraft - including for this reason the Germans did not dare to continue relations with the airport.

It is absolutely not enough to build a beautiful air terminal - this is only a small part of all the tasks, since you decided to develop a transport infrastructure. We need personnel, we need aviation, engine building, we need the production of legal and certified spare parts with the closure of any opportunities to buy "gray" and cheap shit. We need higher and secondary special institutions that prepare the whole range of specialties, we need a unified state control system, and not three, like today. Need a system of moving pilots - the higher the responsibility, the higher the class and experience. And not vice versa...

Non-system is the calling card of the modern Russian authorities. We now have dozens of automobile factories and even the VAZ began to produce not only the "six" - but the quality of anti-tank roads kills the whole point of the development of the domestic automotive industry. The way out was found - now there will be another front building - Moscow Region Ring Road. Only here on what roads will cars get to this very ring road? Yes, for the same - shitty. There are still enough of them for the president’s ceremonial trip on three yellow special vehicles, and then - sorry ... The federal two-lane highway is quite a common occurrence over thousands of kilometers of our open spaces. And if there are three lanes on it, then, as a rule, in a year it will be all in the pits and potholes, and the vehicles maneuvering over it will be chosen - either in the pit, or head-on.

The human factor to which the investigation into the catastrophe in Kazan is proceeding with confidence - it is not only in the air. First of all, he is on earth. And it is not the pilot who is to blame for the accident, although legally, of course, all the blame now falls on him. Yes, in general, and not to the general director of "Tatarstan" questions - but much higher. Although if our president is forty-four years old with the only sensible specialty, the janitor, then what are the questions to the general directors. They can be bundled immediately with the exam to dial ...

People in power have stolen the country already ten generations ahead - but they cannot stop, as motorcyclists. Stopped - fell. Colleagues in robbing you with pleasure vmazhut in the asphalt and add gazku.

Already no one is surprised story with the mayor of Astrakhan - when he cannot even appoint his successor from the chamber - all the vice-mayors also sit. No matter how his last name is, the other will do the same. And will not - will be removed. For it is not divided. Does not send.

I do not believe in the fairy tale that the boyars are bad and hide everything. There are no separate boyars and a separately weary czar - there is just one team, plundering and killing the country. And what are their contradictions there among themselves - for the country there is no difference. It is unlikely that even the death of his own son will force the Tatarstan president to change the existing system even within the republic - they will not give it. Even if he wants.
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  1. +11
    22 November 2013 15: 40
    Building Potemkin villages is a long-standing Russian tradition. Today such villages are called "Olympic", but the essence has not changed at all.
    1. +22
      22 November 2013 17: 12
      Quote: Stiletto
      Building Potemkin villages is a long-standing Russian tradition.

      And very tenacious. Looks like they were waiting for the king in Suzdal, they spent so much money so that his white eyes would not see what I would not want


      and this is only part of their work ...
      1. goldfinger
        +4
        22 November 2013 19: 02
        Quote: Nayhas
        Quote: Stiletto Building Potemkin Villages is a long-standing Russian tradition. And very tenacious. Look, as in Suzdal they were waiting for the king, they spent so much money so that his white eyes did not see what he would not want

        Rather, "Putin's housing stock".
      2. +8
        22 November 2013 19: 51
        Quote: Nayhas
        Building Potemkin villages is a long-standing Russian tradition.

        And very tenacious. Looks like they were waiting for the king in Suzdal, they spent so much money so that his white eyes would not see what I would not want

        Such things do not need to be tried in court. It is necessary to find out whose hands it is, the whole chain, the customer-contractor. And just tear off your head. Why do they need them? There is still nothing good there! Yes, cruel. West and amers will raise a squeal. And us army! But it will be effective for others as well!
        1. +1
          22 November 2013 21: 20
          Quote: GSH-18
          Such things do not need to be tried in court. It is necessary to find out whose hands it is, the whole chain, the customer-contractor. And just tear off your head.

          Come on, the administration of Suzdal has already explained why this was done, only for the sake of the common good ... Putin is not offended ...
      3. goldfinger
        0
        24 November 2013 12: 04
        These pictures were also on the bayonet. The general opinion is embarrassing for allies, Slavs.
    2. +36
      22 November 2013 17: 56
      Potemkin villages have the following names: Kherson, Nikolaev, Nikopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Simferopol, Yekaterinoslav and others. It was at the behest of Potemkin that all these cities began. Of course, the man was a freak of high quality, but he wanted to build and build. Both cities and villages. For 15-20 years, his policy made Tavrida out of the Tatar Crimea. And the cities are still standing.
      1. finderector
        +5
        22 November 2013 18: 49
        And the ships were built there and the land was plowed. Until the specific princes arrived and divided everything into h. Now there are no ships — martyrs — taxis are falling. And nobody cares.
      2. +12
        22 November 2013 19: 47
        You probably do not know very well where the expression "Potemkitn villages" came from. No one belittles the merits of Count Potemkin, but even at the same time, even during his lifetime, they were not afraid to talk about his greed and ability to show off. Catherine spared no money for the development of Little Russia, and hence the embezzlement. And the main embezzler was Potemkin. Before Catherine's trip to the lands of Little Russia, Count Potemkin ordered to arrange settlements along the route, but in fact empty shells (only facades). Hence the expression "Potemkin villages". And as for all these Olympics, Universiades, World Championships and so on, this is a feast during the plague. When 14% of the Russian population is paid below the subsistence minimum, and 60% is slightly above this minimum (official data of the All-Russian Center for Living Standards, broadcast of the program "Morning of Russia" from 21,11,13), and the funds that are spent on these activities are better would be allowed to modernize production in order to increase labor productivity, and therefore increase wages. So no, we'd better build sports facilities for fabulous money, which will then stand and be destroyed because of unnecessary (for example, facilities built for the London Olympic Games). Isn't the crisis in Russia connected with these projects, which hurts many factories and factories.
        1. +1
          23 November 2013 12: 18
          Quote: starshina78
          You probably don't know where the expression "Potemkitn villages" came from

          Before Catherine's trip to the lands of Little Russia, Count Potemkin ordered to arrange settlements along the route, but in fact empty shells (some facades). Hence the expression "Potemkin villages".
          learn history and stop telling myths and fables, Pavel, Peter 3, Ivan the Terrible maniac.
    3. +5
      22 November 2013 18: 40
      -Stiletto: today such villages are called "Olympic" ...
      Question to the Armenian radio:
      - Why does Russia launch the Olympic flame into space?
      The answer of the Armenian radio:
      - Then, so that the whole world sees how she knows how to burn money.
      And the "Potemkin villages", hastily built to appear in the eyes of the queen during her journey, stood in time and are marked on modern maps of the Crimea.
      1. 0
        23 November 2013 04: 01
        Yushchenko told you this?
    4. +3
      22 November 2013 20: 22
      Quote: Stiletto
      Building Potemkin villages is a long-standing Russian tradition.

      I would like to clarify, dear colleague, in fact, in the form in which they are perceived, there were no Potemkin villages ...

      This is the invention of the envious of a great man - Prince Grigory Potemkin. Only people who cannot imagine Russia can believe in it.
      Here - http://ec-dejavu.ru/p/Potemkin_village.html
      about real events regarding the trip of Catherine II to New Russia and the Crimea. About the glorious deeds and achievements of those times and the Greatness of the Russian Empire.

      I brought it not for the sake of justifying the current affairs and deeds of some worthless people who instantly became the "elite of Russia", but in order to know and understand their history ...
      1. +6
        22 November 2013 20: 30
        Let me give you a passage, for this is the whole point:
        Yekaterinoslav in his name is directly associated with St. Petersburg, the "city of Peter". As regards the conceived Yekaterinoslav Cathedral, the idea of ​​making it “an arshinchik longer” than St. Peter's Basilica in Rome is a competitive thought. As Constantinople and Rome once competed, so now Yekaterinoslav, the capital of the governorate, including Tauris (i.e., assuming responsibility for the Greek and Byzantine inheritance), challenges Europe. If Peter “cut a window to Europe” in the Baltic, if he created a fleet there, then Catherine achieved access to another sea, the Black Sea (which Peter had failed at one time). The thunder of cannons of the Sevastopol squadron, which so shocked those present at the ceremonial dinner in the Inkerman Palace, was intended to once again recall that Catherine was the happy continuer of the cause of Peter. Peter is the first, before him, none of the Russian monarchs had “numbered” himself, without fail being called “by patronymic”. This name emphasized the evolutionary succession to the throne, the idea of ​​tradition, of fidelity to the covenants of antiquity. Calling himself the first, which in Russian history there was no precedent and what caused the apocalyptic horror of the old Moscow party, Peter emphasized that Russia would transform decisively and irrevocably.

        Catherine was called the Second; from a purely legitimate point of view, it correlated with Catherine I. But from the point of view of culturological, she was in relation to Peter the Great; this is precisely the meaning of the inscription on the Bronze Horseman.

        Did the foreigners understand these “projections” or not? If not, they apparently tried to clarify this. However, travelers' notes continually contain themes of projects and plans. Count Segur always talked about this: he thinks that the goal of Catherine II is "not the conquest of Constantinople, but the creation of the Greek power from the conquered regions, with the annexation of Moldavia and Wallachia in order to elevate Grand Duke Constantine to the new throne." If we ignore the particulars, we must admit that Count Segur had a deep and accurate mind. He ridiculed European rumors that about the journey "they will everywhere think that they (Catherine II. - A.P.) with the emperor want to conquer Turkey, Persia, maybe even India and Japan."

        Among foreign guests there was a lot of talk about Russian projects; “New plans appear daily in this country; they can only be harmful if they are not performed with wisdom and if they do not represent any real benefit; but I notice that at this moment it is the most abundant country in the world for projects ”(Count de Ludolph).

        Consequently, Joseph II and the envoys of the European powers perfectly understood the purpose for which Catherine took them on a journey. Their skepticism was more like a mask. Behind her was a fear that Russia would be able to carry out its ambitious plans. The myth about the “Potemkin villages” appeared in this environment (of course, one cannot forget about the Russian echoes - they were discussed above; their position is that of Potemkin's competitors, their creeps were primarily careerist).

        Note that already during the trip, and especially immediately after it, literally all foreign observers write about the inevitable and close war between Russia and Turkey. It is known that not only France and England, not only Prussia, but even Austria, allied from the outside, literally pushed Turkey into an open conflict. As soon as there is no “substantial” in Novorossia and Tauris, there is no good army, there is no good fleet, since there are only “Potemkin villages” there, it means Turkey’s victory is possible, it means that Crimea will belong to it again.

        Turkey had to make sure that the myth of the "Potemkin villages" is really a myth.
    5. +2
      22 November 2013 23: 01
      Quote: Stiletto
      Building Potemkin villages is a long-standing Russian tradition.


      The authorship of the legend is attributed to Saxon diplomat Georg Gelbig. bully Despite the fact that the “Potemkin villages” are a myth, the expression “Potemkin villages” is firmly used in the meaning of window dressing, swindle. Europe believed in “Potemkin villages” because it did not want to recognize the fact that Russia had become a great power.

      And it’s even good that many even now console themselves with this
    6. +1
      23 November 2013 12: 15
      Quote: Stiletto
      "Potemkin villages"

      already for one this moronic phrase minus I want to put
  2. +21
    22 November 2013 15: 44
    We now have dozens of automobile factories and even VAZ has begun to produce not only "sixes" - but the quality of anti-tank roads kills the whole point of the development of the domestic automotive industry. I have Lada Largus, I'm happy as an elephant. And the roads are normal. Enough to blame everything, tired. Remember what the perestroika Komsomol members used to say? "If you criticize - offer."
    1. +9
      22 November 2013 15: 53
      In our city, in recent years, roads have also become much better.
      1. +6
        22 November 2013 18: 18
        And we have much worse.
        1. +12
          22 November 2013 20: 12
          Quote: 2я19
          And we have much worse.

          And here in Sochi everything is new throughout the city (all 4 districts of 147 km of coast). And roads and bridges and tunnels, road junctions and two new gas power plants, two stations, new German electric trains Siemens (with air conditioning) and buses too. New car and train road Adler-Olympic Park (60km). I won’t write about Olympic facilities, they are under the control of the IOC. Of course, there are minor construction flaws (mainly in the non-guest area). If I take a picture, I'll post it. The conclusion such a city could build such an infrastructure within 100 years, at least with honest city leaders and financial opportunities. The population of the city over the past 7 years has grown markedly (this is noticeable in the off-season). Here it is. Only for this, THANKS from all the Sochi residents, Putin deservedly! And you say everything is bad.
          1. +3
            22 November 2013 20: 53
            with honest city leaders and financial opportunities
            a strange combination of words, the ear cuts. The fact is that Sochi, Moscow and Grozny, which licked at the expense of Russia, are not the whole country, and if something is transferred to the regions, then it is just "honest local leaders" who privatize it into their pockets.
          2. +5
            22 November 2013 23: 54
            And if you hadn’t had the Olympics, then you would have X ... Y sucked, not new power plants, and everything else!
      2. 0
        24 November 2013 11: 30
        The road Nizhnevartovsk-Surgut elegant road can be said. I went on vacation by car this year, before that I went by car five years ago, so in five years the roads have become much better and they continue to be made, so it's not so bad and even good
    2. +6
      22 November 2013 15: 57
      Just such a feature of the national mentality:
      - steal money on the construction of roads;
      - buy with this money a cool car;
      - ditch her on these roads.
      1. +1
        22 November 2013 20: 24
        Quote: Stiletto
        Just such a feature of the national mentality:
        - steal money on the construction of roads;
        - buy with this money a cool car;
        - ditch her on these roads.

        A thief should sit in jail!
        The main question now is why the bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs are not finalizing and what to do about it? request
        1. +2
          22 November 2013 23: 03
          Quote: GSH-18
          A thief should sit in jail!


          reality disproves this thesis crying

          The main question now is why the bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs are not finalizing and what to do about it?


          Do you think there are no thieves and crooks in the organs? Hence, there are no improvements
      2. +3
        22 November 2013 21: 11
        Quote: Stiletto
        Just such a feature of the national mentality:
        - steal money on the construction of roads;
        - buy with this money a cool car;
        - ditch her on these roads.

        A business in Russian is to steal a box of vodka, sell vodka, and drink some money ?! laughing
        1. Cat
          +1
          22 November 2013 21: 16
          Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
          A business in Russian is to steal a box of vodka, sell vodka, and drink some money ?!

          a little bit wrong: steal a box of vodka, drink vodka, and earn - by handing over bottles =)
      3. 0
        23 November 2013 04: 07
        tongue chat, do not ship firewood.
    3. +16
      22 November 2013 16: 07
      And the roads are normal. Enough to blame everything, tired. Remember what the perestroika Komsomol members used to say? "If you criticize - offer."

      And here I will propose ... personally, I don’t need to pump huge amounts of money into the Moscow-St. Petersburg toll highway, but to reconstruct and modernize the old one. Every day we stand in traffic jams near Tver. Is there really no money for 5 km. there is also a strip near Tver. I am generally silent about Vyshny Volochok. This is the simplest thing ... And I agree with the non-systemic nature of power by 1000000%. Absolutely unsystematic approach. And the "tsar, tired of worries" is himself a hostage.
      1. +4
        22 November 2013 16: 18
        Please do not write what you do not understand. Reconstructing the old M10 would have flown into even bigger money and would have deprived the new M11 of the free backup.
        1. 0
          22 November 2013 17: 04
          Yes, I ... minus. Calculate how much it would only cost to move houses and communications in the settlements.
          1. +1
            22 November 2013 19: 38
            Let's not build interchanges in Moscow - you have to transfer communications at home! Nonsense.
        2. +3
          22 November 2013 17: 07
          I'm sorting it out. I’m a roadman myself ...
      2. +5
        22 November 2013 16: 19
        Quote: rennim
        And here I will propose ... personally, I don’t need to pump huge amounts of money into the Moscow-St. Petersburg toll highway, but to reconstruct and modernize the old one. Every day we stand in traffic jams near Tver. Is there really no money for 5 km. there is also a strip near Tver. I am generally silent about Vyshny Volochok. This is the simplest thing ... And I agree with the non-systemic nature of power by 1000000%. Absolutely unsystematic approach. And the "tsar, tired of worries" is himself a hostage.


        ++++++++++++ !!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Russia has thousands of traffic lights.
        One traffic light under the Vyshny Volochyok has all of Russia.
        1. +1
          22 November 2013 16: 26
          Bypass Volochek already built.
          1. +2
            22 November 2013 16: 31
            Quote: fzr1000
            Bypass Volochek already built.


            - Traffic jams, however, are present. With regards to the new M11, this will be a toll road. And not the fact that cheap.
            1. 0
              22 November 2013 16: 45
              It is built, but not yet open. They get it.
            2. -2
              22 November 2013 17: 07
              Regarding payment, no more than money. It should be cheaper than flying by plane or taking a four-way train from Moscow to St. Petersburg. Well, the main stream of trucks will go to paid, having unloaded M10, then the local and cards in hand.
              1. +6
                22 November 2013 20: 38
                Naive, the bulk of the trucks will remain free.
      3. +5
        22 November 2013 17: 56
        The "Tsar, tired of worries" is not a hostage at all, he is the same accomplice, it is just that it is not customary to "remember" Mr. Sobchak now, for the "bright face of the Tsar" was not smeared with jam then either. And about the "non-system" - it's you in vain! Their stealing is carried out strictly systemically - everywhere and everywhere fellow
      4. olviko
        +9
        22 November 2013 18: 36
        ". And the" worn-out king "is himself a hostage."

        Yes, all this nonsense! In my opinion, Stalin very convincingly showed how to do it. In 45, half of the country is in ruins. tens of millions perished. At 49 they made an atomic bomb. in 53 hydrogen, 57 launched the satellite, 61 - Gagarin. And so, there would be a desire and a will!
    4. +6
      22 November 2013 16: 41
      Your roads are normal ... Well, well. I have a living example - I worked in Chukotka, and the Turks chose the contracts on the roads completely. There were also Yugoslavs, but they were not allowed for the time being especially to the feeding trough. As a result, when the defense subsided, and the Yugoslavs came to the next tender, they offered a price two times less, with better quality. But the roads are good, I’m not arguing.
      And there is another example from St. Petersburg. When they laid a new track, everyone got hurt and the road was normal, but for a couple of years, and then she got a cord and the contract for restoration again to the same company. And in terms of seven years were supposed to run. About what materials and at what prices the fact and the paper generally keep silent - any government contract begins with a rollback at 60%.

      PS Even in Chukotka, a friend (the head of the engineering department in the road workers) said something like this - we have great requirements for roads, but we build using snaps / snaps from the 70s and 80s, and it is not profitable to revise them. So much for the "autobahns" in two lanes with shit razvoryazkami.

      No, well, the roads are good, not for long, but good.
      1. +3
        22 November 2013 16: 45
        Quote: Lapotnik
        No, well, the roads are good, not for long, but good.


        I agree with Bogdan. And let’s remember the rural roads (of course, those who have something to remember outside the Garden Ring). Or all right rural - the road to Skolkovo ...
        1. +6
          22 November 2013 17: 05
          what to speak of roads, in Akhtubinsk they handed over a new lane (they wrote about this on the website), and so now it is still being repaired without properly performing flights from it. Fly with the old
      2. +2
        22 November 2013 18: 43
        And why are the SNiPs of the 80s bad, you read them, they are not out of date at all, if they were strictly guided in the construction and repair, everything would be fine, they just scored them and repair them by eye and with the funds remaining, and not based on the norms contemplated by standards. There are a lot of examples, hair stands on end from all this, and then it is asked where 30 tons of dead on the roads come from.
      3. goldfinger
        +2
        22 November 2013 19: 07
        Quote: Lapotnik
        No, well, the roads are good, not for long, but good.

        Myth: Gogol said that "There are two troubles in Russia - fools and roads."
        .
        Truth: This phrase is attributed to various historical figures. Most often Gogol. Less commonly, to Saltykov-Shchedrin, Karamzin, Nicholas I, etc. However, although the alleged authorship is not confirmed by anything, no one disputes the truth of this statement. Usually, fools mean bosses, and the reason for the poor roads is explained by the sharply continental climate, the gigantic territory of the country, insufficient funding and theft of contractors.
        .
        In 2011, the World Bank prepared a report on the state of roads around the world and called Russian roads extremely expensive and not in line with European standards. Russia has taken 6th place since the end in Europe and the CIS in terms of road quality. “Out of the 50 kilometers of federal highways, less than a third of the regulatory requirements are satisfactory. More than 000% of the federal road network does not meet regulatory requirements for evenness and strength of the road surface, ”the report says. Roads are worse only in Kyrgyzstan, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Poland and Romania. Domestic roads are inferior in quality to Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, and Russia is almost three times behind the rating leaders - France, Germany and Finland.
        .
        The annual expense for the current and overhaul of Russian roads in terms of one kilometer ranges from $ 27 thousand to $ 55 thousand. Head of the Accounts Chamber Sergei Stepashin admitted two years ago that in Russia, road construction is two to three times more expensive than in the US and seven times more expensive than in China. According to various estimates, only kickbacks during road construction take from 10 to 50% of the tender amount.
        .
        07.09.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX The Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation completed verification of compliance with the law in the design, construction, reconstruction, repair and maintenance of roads, which was carried out with the involvement of prosecutors of all entities. It has been established that more than half of federal highways and most roads of regional and local significance do not comply with regulatory requirements. Typical disadvantages are defects in the road surface, lack of illumination of the roadway at night, equipped pedestrian crossings, structurally allocated dividing lanes, road fencing, incorrect road marking.
        According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, every fifth traffic accident in Russia occurs due to the unsatisfactory condition of streets and roads.
        The prosecutors revealed numerous violations in the activities of officials when placing orders for the supply of goods, the performance of work, the provision of services for state and municipal needs in the field of road construction, related to the restriction of competition, non-compliance with the established bidding procedures and determining their winners.
        The facts of abuse by officials responsible for ensuring timely and high-quality construction and repair work, misuse of budget funds, and payment of outstanding work have been established.
    5. Toporkoff
      +7
      22 November 2013 17: 03
      Remember what the perestroika Komsomol members used to say? "If you criticize - offer."

      and better completely: "If you criticize - offer. Offer - do. Do - answer."
      "that's why our men in the Urals are so silent")))
    6. +8
      22 November 2013 17: 58
      Quote: Uncle
      remember what the perestroika Komsomol members used to say? "If you criticize - offer."

      Offering:
      1. Roads to build in accordance with advanced technologies.
      2. Stop laying asphalt in puddles and wet pits, calling it patching.
      3. Strengthen construction quality control. To force contractors to repair roads on their own money that do not withstand the warranty period.
      To you personally I propose to take off the pink glasses and go outside of Moscow - Russia is not limited to it.
      1. +2
        22 November 2013 19: 09
        None of the GOSTs, SNiPs have patches; this repair is done in violation of the law. There is no need for an advanced one here, it is enough to comply with existing standards and accident rate will be significantly reduced.
      2. +4
        22 November 2013 19: 46
        You don't have to go far. From the M2 "Crimea" highway in the Nenashevo area, turn onto the P115 highway. And to Kashira you go 2,5-3 hours in first gear for about 27 km. Basically, a training ground is not needed for tank biathlon, it is already prepared. Lovers of off-road adventures will love it.
    7. +2
      22 November 2013 19: 36
      Largus? Let's start with the name. What does it mean? Volzhanka, Kalina, I understand Moskvich, and Largus - is that ?? From VAZ there is a nameplate and no more; as usual, they ripped off a mediocre model from an even more mediocre brand. Yes, a friend of 2112 got up once in 8 years. And the new Grant left for two months and grabbed the engine wedge. How shoud I understand this?
    8. 0
      22 November 2013 19: 40
      Quote: Uncle
      If you criticize - offer. "

      I offer roads to invite the Germans to build. Of course, the cut will suffer, and Ashot and Akhmet will lose their jobs, but the population will ultimately win. Although there would be no major overhaul every 5 years
      1. +2
        22 November 2013 20: 11
        Quote: Pilat2009
        eventually the population will win

        The budget will win too. The Germans are building cheaper.
      2. +5
        22 November 2013 20: 57
        Mercedes bought AvtoVAZ and decided to produce Mercedes in Russia.
        To the surprise of the Germans, Zhiguli began to descend from the assembly line.
        The Germans dismantled the equipment and supplied the latest machines. As a result, all the same, the Lada goes off the assembly line!
        The Germans prifigely, demolished the plant and built the most modern enterprise in the world for the production of cars. But from the assembly line anyway go LATCH!
        Then the Germans fired all Russian personnel and brought their workers. From the conveyor all the same go LATER ...
        Behind the plant, on the knoll, former AvtoVAZ CEO and chief engineer of the plant are sitting and drinking vodka. The former chief engineer tells the former gene. to the director:
        - I told you that the place is damned! And you - "hands from the ass", "hands from the ass" ...
        1. olviko
          +2
          23 November 2013 06: 06
          "To the surprise of the Germans, Zhiguli began to leave the assembly line."

          It’s good that it’s not a Kalashnikov assault rifle!
  3. +3
    22 November 2013 15: 45
    This is a market economy, according to CIS-ovsky, there are no other explanations.
  4. Poruchik 90
    +6
    22 November 2013 15: 49
    I’ve seen enough how terminal D was built at the airport in Boryspil by EURO 2012. They are still finishing it up, although they threw money into 3 such terminals. When OUR came to cut the ribbon, a film was pulled under the ceilings so that it would not pour on his head. So bags of water hung, Borya Kolesnikov probably stood and prayed, that would not break through.
  5. kaktus
    +2
    22 November 2013 15: 59
    All this is, unfortunately ... :(
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  7. +4
    22 November 2013 16: 02
    That's right - they need the Central Ring Road, because for them outside of this road Russia does not exist ... There is only Moscow and they, so beloved, are in it ...
    1. +1
      22 November 2013 16: 22
      The whole country needs the Central Ring Road because the road network is so arranged. Previously, about 50 years ago, it was necessary to develop the road network in a different way.
      1. sashka
        0
        22 November 2013 17: 21
        I am surprised. What is tskad?
        1. +5
          22 November 2013 17: 44
          Quote: Sasha
          I am surprised. What is tskad?

          And it was the tsar who decided to invest the money of the reserve fund in the construction of another ring road around Moscow. He says - the federal program, the road is very necessary. It seems like 500 km will be. I think that 30 billion "will be buried", this is the minimum.
          1. 0
            22 November 2013 21: 07
            Quote: IRBIS
            the construction of another ring road around Moscow.

            Why is the ckad needed? She was allowed on the A107! Crazy idea.
      2. +8
        22 November 2013 17: 45
        Sure sure. For example, we here in the Far East really need the Central Ring Road. Without it, nothing at all. To Vladivostok from Khabarovsk through Moscow, a budum ride.
        1. +1
          24 November 2013 13: 29
          Suffice it to recall Putin's trip to Kalina, allegedly from Khabarovsk to Chita, "an excellent road", of course being repaired and done, but far from what was announced.
  8. dnh1970
    +6
    22 November 2013 16: 15
    accurate and correct article! confiscation and lifelong bribe-takers ....
  9. Lesnik
    +4
    22 November 2013 16: 21
    The expression of the classic about fools and roads is no longer relevant wink
    relevant how can I be distorted 2 sayings "A raven will not peck out a crow's eye" and "Everything is fair between thieves" laughing
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    2. +3
      22 November 2013 16: 26
      Yeah, now this is relevant:
      To ruin Russia, the US State Department throws us corrupt officials, digs holes on our roads and pees at our porches!
  10. +3
    22 November 2013 16: 24
    Quote: Uncle
    I have Lada Largus, I'm happy as an elephant. And the roads are normal.


    Here it is, our psychology. And then the Japanese look at KAMAZ and are surprised: what can these Russians not think of so that they can’t build good roads!

    Regarding normal roads: come to us in the Tver region, go for a drive, see what remains of the suspension in a season.
    1. +3
      22 November 2013 17: 50
      Quote: Stiletto
      what only these Russians can’t think of so that they can’t build good roads!

      Indeed, what the hell are they for us? smile
      Quote: Stiletto
      come to us in the Tver region

      Alexey! Well, why should we all go to you? Well, unless at a good table to pass the time in a conversation with a good person. Personally, I just need to try to leave the courtyard of the house!
      1. +1
        22 November 2013 20: 54
        And, by the way, I’m always glad to good people, and I would be glad to meet you. hi
  11. +3
    22 November 2013 16: 26
    Murid in his own way. By the way, he didn’t comment on his perjury about Lavrov’s resignation.
  12. +5
    22 November 2013 16: 31
    I live in the South, often and regularly on business I go to Rostov from Kavminvod, the car "Lada Kalina". I am satisfied with the car - it is already 5 years old, I cannot afford maintenance and maintenance. What I had enough money for, that's what I go. But that's not what I mean. In recent years, the roads in the southern region have significantly improved for the better. Especially the M-4 highway. It is best of all in the Krasnodar Territory, but in the Rostov Region, the canvas has also noticeably improved and security issues have been somehow resolved. Maybe something was stolen there during the construction, not without it, but there is also something left on the expensive ones. Moreover, in new sections, the roadway is quite pulling on the motorway and the gayts do not slow down for speeding if you drive 110 km. per hour, but no more.
  13. +3
    22 November 2013 16: 31
    While they confiscate with us with rising prices, excise taxes, taxes, pension and other reforms, and they themselves only become fatter.
  14. +4
    22 November 2013 16: 47
    If we write about roads, then in Omsk there are more directions than roads and there are no trends to change for the better.
    1. +4
      22 November 2013 17: 19
      Quote: cocktail46
      If we write about roads, then in Omsk there are more directions than roads and there are no trends to change for the better.

      In Omsk, the roads aren’t even terrible, it’s worse only in Volgograd, as if the war was over there ...
      1. +1
        22 November 2013 21: 04
        Well, guys, your words would be in the ears of Sergei, who criticized me above. He either has everything in order with the roads, or Mercedes ML is available (well, or all together). And they brought Germans to our city of Russian Soldier's Glory, Rzhev, they were horrified: "What's wrong with your roads?"
        Well, a local driver, didn’t give up, said: here you have a church in the center of Berlin that was destroyed - in memory of the war. Well, we haven’t repaired the roads since the war — we left it to our descendants, as it were, as a warning to you — that’s what you Germans did to our roads!

        And laughter, and sin ...
        1. +2
          22 November 2013 21: 26
          Quote: Stiletto
          Well guys, your words would be in the ears of Sergei, who criticized me above. He or with the roads everything is in order, or Mercedes ML in stock (well, or all together).

          You haven't been to Abakan and Minusinsk in winter, there is coal heating everywhere, "sir smog" around the clock when the wind is weak. It's sooooo hard to breathe. This is a pancake in the very "rich Siberia" from which gas is being driven to Europe ...
  15. +2
    22 November 2013 16: 48
    There is no separate boyars and no separate king weary of cares - there is simply one team plundering and killing a country.


    If you take one step, then take the second: There is a country that plunders and kills itself.
    The "boyars" with the "tsar" did not come from another planet, they came from this very country and its people. As well as the past and future "Tsarebojars". They are us. You have to blame your thinking, national, and try to change it for the better, in favor of the values ​​that are preached as national. Then other people will go upstairs with a different mindset. Although this is a long process, for now, all that remains is to bark at those who managed to climb higher so that they do not forget and fear those who are lower. And there you look and "dissidents" will grow up. If nothing happens in terms of cataclysms, natural or man-made ...
  16. 0
    22 November 2013 16: 58
    Author El Murid "Such an author would write this, a scribbler damn it.
    I do not believe in the fairy tale that the boyars are bad and hide everything. There are no separate boyars and a separately weary czar - there is just one team, plundering and killing the country. And what are their contradictions there among themselves - for the country there is no difference. It is unlikely that even the death of his own son will force the Tatarstan president to change the existing system even within the republic - they will not give it. Even if he wants.
    And what does the author believe in? The collapse and dismemberment of Russia? And as you can see from the article, I would really like to.
  17. beautiful
    +2
    22 November 2013 17: 13
    right now, Putinans will start bombing farts, as the author dared to question the sanctity and decency of our tsar-father, because these are all cursing careless boyars, appointed by the way, Ms. Solntselikim, put sticks in the wheels and sabotage orders)
    1. +5
      22 November 2013 17: 21
      Quote: krasavchik
      how did the author dare to question the sanctity and decency of our king-father

      recently, Putin at the word Serdyukov fall into a coma, begin to babble all nonsense, they have a real gap pattern ...
      1. beautiful
        +3
        22 November 2013 17: 36
        I think that nevertheless Perdyukov will be imprisoned, only when Putin’s rating is quite bad. there will be a kind of ritual sacrifice. ultimately both the sheep and the wolves are full ...
        1. +1
          22 November 2013 21: 18
          Quote: krasavchik
          I think that nevertheless Perdyukov will be imprisoned, only when Putin’s rating is quite bad. there will be a kind of ritual sacrifice. in the end, both the sheep and the wolves are full ..

          Yes, overexposed somehow. There is nothing accusatory in the criminal case against him, and it will be very difficult to quickly shove him into the form of the accused, and you don’t see much desire. Serdyukov from the highest nomenclature, he is not subject to jurisdiction. Even if he is caught in the mausoleum that rapes Lenin’s mummy, then he won’t be anything, Lenin’s confession will write that he himself attacked him ...
          1. beautiful
            +1
            22 November 2013 21: 42
            Yes, overexposed somehow. There is nothing accusatory in the criminal case against him, and it will be very difficult to quickly shove him into the form of the accused, and you don’t see much desire. Serdyukov from the highest nomenclature, he is not subject to jurisdiction. Even if he is caught in the mausoleum that rapes Lenin’s mummy, then he won’t be anything, Lenin’s confession will write that he himself attacked him ...

            Yes, I don’t understand why everyone attacked Serdyukov so much) He’s a statistician, his superiors told him to do it, he did) well, he stole several billion along the way, who’s not stealing up there now), the supreme commander he has the Minister of Defense spetsnaz GRU destroying, etc.) and right now they are building a scapegoat out of him, so that later they can land, as they threw a bone to the people, they say look, corruption is a burden)
  18. +4
    22 November 2013 17: 41
    Photo to the article is a clear evidence of the results of the actions of the reformers. More precisely, the final solution of the peasant question. I had to travel around central Russia and the Far East. The picture is similar. No words needed. It’s enough to put burnt down German tanks near the village and make a film about the post-war devastation. One thing is disturbing. On the threshold, a new generation of reformers sparkles with eager eyes. And the desire to fight for national happiness is so great that they can give their ready life for the post. I’ll say, I’ll starve until I’m chosen as the chief. It costs a lot.
    1. beautiful
      +4
      22 November 2013 17: 49
      it's bullshit that the country is bending and the population is dying, we need all sorts of stupid one-time cattle catchers like the Olympics to give the opportunity to steal our friends. the strong impression that the people are steadily purposefully killing and surrendering countries along the way by plundering everything that is possible ...
  19. +4
    22 November 2013 18: 22
    One of the persuasive arguments in favor of insane spending on media projects such as the Olympics, Universiade, World Cup or the APEC summit is the development of infrastructure in the area where the country's leadership intends to throw dust into the eyes of the world community.

    Our Moscow thief threw dust into the eyes of the Russian people.
    Only a hopelessly mentally retarded person is able to choose the Sochi and Imereti Lowlands for the Winter Olympics. The construction costs there are an order of magnitude higher than anywhere else in Russia.
    At the end of March this year, a severe storm destroyed part of the coastal protection of Olympic facilities, the construction of which was spent about 2,5 billion rubles. The money went to erect an embankment of gravel and concrete slabs, which should protect the Olympic facilities and prevent erosion of the coast. In March, about a hundred meters of protective structures were destroyed, the dam sank, some of the structural elements were simply broken by the sea. Water flooded the construction camp located immediately behind the embankment, and the builders themselves had to urgently be taken out by excavator. Near the port of Imeretinsky washed off the marina for yachts and the "body" of the beach.
    1. RSNV.
      +1
      22 November 2013 18: 47
      But we will have the most expensive Olympics in the history of mankind !!!
      The Olympic Games in Sochi were achieved mainly due to the assertiveness of the great GDP, which, after returning to the Kremlin, made these Games one of its priorities
  20. +2
    22 November 2013 18: 23
    The author confuses soft with warm. A faulty plane crashes at any very beautiful airport. After all, concrete hands won’t come out of the concrete and pick up a falling plane? The dead is eternal memory.
    1. 0
      22 November 2013 21: 53
      Quote: Grif
      Faulty plane crashing at any airport

      Why use a 23 year old airplane?
      And because everyone has buried their
  21. +2
    22 November 2013 18: 36
    Inconsistency is the hallmark of modern Russian authorities.
    Non-systemicity is a very mild word. Rather, it is just a state-scale mess with pathetic attempts from time to time to demonstrate that thinking people are in power. As a rule, these attempts appear after any emergency, "preferably" with human casualties.
    No one thinks about anything and never before (of course, except for his own feed). Relevant directives and laws are issued that are either deliberately or not enforceable or simply stupid.
    Non-system is, first of all, ill-conceived. And thoughtfulness is a sign of CIVILIZATION! Most likely for this reason, for example, German airlines refuse to cooperate with us.
    And this denseness and uncouthness is considered the norm of this thieves' and bargaining system of power.
    If there is an opportunity to "zanykat" and "take over the hill", then any domestic bureaucrats will certainly take advantage of this. And if this bureaucrat is in "favor", then, of course, he will not get anything for it, even if the economy under his control is in complete collapse. The main thing is that the debit and credit converge. THIS IS SO ACCEPTED IN THIS SYSTEM!
  22. 0
    22 November 2013 18: 58
    It is not enough to build a beautiful air terminal - this is only a small part of all the tasks, since you have decided to develop a transport infrastructure. We need personnel, we need aircraft and engine building, we need the production of legal and certified spare parts with the closure of any opportunities to buy "gray" and cheap. We need higher and secondary specialized institutions that prepare the whole range of specialties, we need a unified state control system, and not three, as it is today. We need a system for moving pilots - the higher the responsibility, the higher the class and experience. And not vice versa...

    Everything is correct, only our leaders do not need it, it is easier to unfasten the "compensation". With such "management in the country", the Ministry of Emergencies will not be left without work.
    The "wild Russians", as well as the "wild Tatars" and "wild Latvians," may have a different shape of the skull - but the thirst for money at any cost unites more abruptly than any ideology. And the result is the same everywhere. (El Murid "Savages")

    Let him say it harshly, but to the point and on time. (In Riga, more than 40 people died during the collapse of the shopping center, at the same time a tragedy in Kazan ...)
  23. zhihaar
    +2
    22 November 2013 19: 04
    people !!!!! the article is not about the road! the article is about the fat layer of thieves-parasites who knows nothing more, and does not want to save other people's money, i.e. our money with you.
  24. goldfinger
    0
    22 November 2013 19: 11
    Myth: Russia has no national idea.
    .
    Truth: Over the past 200 years, Russia's national idea has not changed much. Most precisely, the national idea of ​​Russia was formulated by A.S. Pushkin, and Andrei Illarionov very accurately wrote about its interpretation in the modern sense:
    The formula of the Russian national idea (dream) is synthesized
    O. Kryshtanovskaya:
    “Here I lay by the blue pool of the best 5 star hotel. In Cyprus, I thought: “bliiiin! Well, could I, a simple Russian woman, imagine that I would rest in such beauty as a lady and mistress? And what will serve to me our emigrants - maids, drivers, waiters? We, remaining in Russia, now come to different countries as wealthy tourists. And they - who emigrated for the best share - clean up after us, carry us, give us ... "
    This is truly brilliant text.
    Stylistically, every phrase, every word, every letter “and” in the most popular interjection of the modern Russian language “bliiiin!” Sings in it.
    From the point of view of composition - just think about the meaning of this wonderful phrase: “We, remaining in Russia ...”
    BUT? What?
    And now - in the meaning of the phrase opposed to her: "... our emigrants ... emigrated for a better share."
    Even in the absence of the final sentence of the analyzed moan of the soul, the victorious click of the triumphant New Russian spirit is guessed in its place:
    "Well? How are we, left in Russia, of you, who have left, to ... (here you can choose the most suitable verb for the reader in the plural and past tense)? Ah? " “A-A-A-A-A !!!!!” "Bliiiin!"
    From a substantive point of view, the Russian national dream (Russian national idea) was finally formulated, brilliantly synthesized from the most stable psychological complexes, extracted from the deep layers of the national subconscious:
    - "sausage": "Here I was lying by the blue pool ...";
    - "Worship of the West": "... the best hotel of 5 stars. In Cyprus";
    - simultaneous "contempt-hatred for the West and for traitors and defectors who emigrated to this West": "And they emigrated for a better share ...";
    - a complex of "nobility - a new nobility" from Pushkin's fairy tale about a goldfish: "And what will serve me ... they clean up after us, carry us, serve us ...";
    - “kvass patriotism”: “We, remaining in Russia ...”;
    - Syndrome of “successful tattoo”: “We, remaining in Russia, now come to different countries as wealthy tourists. And they - who emigrated for a better share - are cleaning up after us ... ”;
    - “pure and sincere nationality”: “Here I lay ... and thought:“ bliiiin! ”
    The historical success in finding the exact formulation of the modern Russian national idea allows us to finally reassure the hierarchs of the Russian Orthodox Church, who were seriously alarmed by the destruction of the national cultural code due to the corrupting influence of Western civilization. Over the past two centuries, the Russian national idea does not seem to have undergone any significant substantive adjustments.
    Its classic formulation of the early XNUMXth century:
    “I do not want to be a black peasant woman,
    I want to be a pillar noblewoman ...
    Zealous servants before her ... "
    at the beginning of the XNUMXst century, she underwent only cosmetic adjustments: the “black peasant woman” turned into a “simple Russian woman”, the “pillar noblewoman” into “mistress and mistress”, and the “zealous servants” into “our emigrants - maids, drivers, waiters” . The final version of the modern national idea is almost indistinguishable from the immortal Pushkin lines:
    “... I, a simple Russian woman, ... I will rest in such beauty as a lady and mistress ... And what will our emigrants be for me - maids, drivers, waiters ... And they ... clean up after us, take us, give us ..."
    1. Cpa
      +1
      23 November 2013 00: 09
      Only one fish, and caught the old henpecked, and all hungry - a broken trough. In summary, be sincere
      , "spirited", work on creation and you will have a goldfish. The main thing is not to dance to the tune of someone else's greed, otherwise you will forget how to dream.
      ZY It is not known what kind of "old man - henpecked" this O. Kryshtanovskaya took out as a "noblewoman".
  25. +1
    22 November 2013 19: 16
    It is interesting, but the authors of such materials understand that the image component for the country is very important, and that without it there would not be any investments?
    1. RSNV.
      0
      23 November 2013 01: 17
      There is no investment, there has not been and will not be. Any normal investor is aware of the real situation in a degrading RF and its image cannot be spoiled by anything, and the crisis is on in the world, so investors are not up to investing today.
  26. goldfinger
    +1
    22 November 2013 19: 18
    Myth: Thanks to V.V. Russia has revived Putin and "rose from his knees."
    .
    Truth: During the actual leadership of Russia, V.V. From 1999 to 2012, Putin significantly improved Russia's economic performance. The main reason for these improvements was a tenfold increase in oil prices, which began simultaneously with Putin's rise to power. Along with oil, prices rose for all other commodities, which make up 95% of Russia's exports (oil, oil products, gas, metals, timber, wheat, etc.). No personal merit V.V. There is no Putin in this.
    1. beautiful
      +3
      22 November 2013 20: 01
      some still rose from their knees: in 2000, there were 4 dollar billionaires in the country, now it’s 120. Apart from all the Millers and Yakunins.
    2. -4
      22 November 2013 22: 36
      It remains only to explain the lack of special growth in the countries living in oil.
  27. +4
    22 November 2013 20: 34
    How many troubles do the people need to wake up?
    As we see, no one is protected from the mess and devastation in Russia.
    Neither wealth, nor position, nor profession, nor dignity protect from trouble.
    This is the payback for our compromise with lies and the principle of "your own shirt is closer to the body."
    You will not have time to look around and read OUR FATHER - the shirt will be on the cold body, and then on condition that it is found.
  28. +1
    22 November 2013 21: 29
    The Sochi Olympic construction site is the toughest feeder, if the work costs 5 million, they steal all 50 .... one god knows how much dough they pulled
  29. 0
    22 November 2013 21: 33
    Reminds all of this 1910-1930s, when the situation was characterized as "those that are worthless, but others are not." And it’s not that Putin, you see, don’t care, everyone is responsible for the country, from Putin to the janitor who didn’t sprinkle the ice with sand and thereby harm society if someone broke his leg. And it will take a long time to rake it out. Because such a system has developed in the 90s and it will not be corrected in a day.
  30. 0
    22 November 2013 21: 43
    shoot the AUTHOR! FIRST THIS ARTICLE is a paid propaganda AGAINST AUTHORITIES IN RUSSIA!
    secondly, a lot of things are being done in RUSSIA http://www.sdelanounas.ru/
    The people have problems. But where they are not!
    Blame of course you can President, etc. But ASKED WHAT THE AUTHORITY DOES IN PLACES? they are given authority - and where is their work! It would be nice to ask them!
    Why is KUZBASS developing but not Tomsk! But because there GOVERNOR adequate! that's a mustache!
    Slaughter the power on the ground --- and do not chew snot here!
    1. 0
      22 November 2013 22: 37
      In places? They don’t write about places in blogs, Stalin, Putin, everything is one, personally guilty in everything.
  31. 0
    22 November 2013 22: 16
    I looked at the photo on the splash screen of the article and asked the following question: where did the slate from the roof of the barn go? Probably the Germans or the Chinese dragged it away, maybe aliens? No, if you go through the yards of the villagers, then the slate will be found on the master sheds and bathhouses, there will be glass and frames. You just don’t need to say that power is being stolen by the billions, and we cannot take our peasants. And those who dragged building materials from there were unlikely to be dragged to their yard, more likely a couple of collective-farm drunks pulled away, and neighbors by the bubble sold. But the neighbors are clean, we are we didn’t take it ourselves, we bought it, and where we got it, we don’t know. And of course, the chairman is to blame for everything and the President, you don’t fight corruption, you know. angry What are we? What are we? feel
  32. Alf
    +1
    22 November 2013 22: 18
    Quote: Uncle
    We now have dozens of automobile factories and even VAZ has begun to produce not only "sixes" - but the quality of anti-tank roads kills the whole point of the development of the domestic automotive industry. I have Lada Largus, I'm happy as an elephant. And the roads are normal. Enough to blame everything, tired. Remember what the perestroika Komsomol members used to say? "If you criticize - offer."

    Stop all cry-talk? Do you boast of largus? And remind me, please, WHOSE car largus?
    In it, the roots of Renault not only appear, but are visible with the naked eye. And the consequences of the sale of AvtoVAZ shares to the Frenchman-Japanese are already visible now. There is an acceleration of our designers and technologists, i.e. to create a new OUR car BY YOURSELF will already be difficult. Yes, our cars were perhaps not the most modern, but these were our cars and with any embargo we were not dependent on the West in cars. Our civilian planes were poor and not modern, so let's buy Boeing and Airbus. Purchased. So these Boeings, etc. pour in from old age, and spare parts, at exorbitant prices, and even if they want it, they will sell it over the hill, but they want it, and no. What will we fly then? And the disaster in Kazan is proof. Their aircraft factories are in a deep anus. If you want to build, you look, but there is no one, nothing and nothing, and nothing.
    And the offer is simple and visible with the naked eye — the entire court camarilla, the whole united Russia from the children and the household — to the lanterns.
    1. -1
      23 November 2013 00: 30
      Yeah, they are taking the designers from VAZ, are they driving themselves, did they understand what they wrote? But you, too, because a thread Ford Focus, which means you should be silent. Well, about the embargo, do not tell my slippers, AvtoVAZ sees this in a sweet dream, no payment of dividends to bourgeoisie on their investments, a closed market from competitors so that you can again sell buckets with nuts.
  33. Observer
    0
    22 November 2013 22: 25
    The article is bitter, but true. I agree with the author. Expressed my thoughts 100%
  34. zhihaar
    +1
    22 November 2013 22: 47
    it seems like a topic: for days the governor of Tuleyev spoke-they say labor productivity is 3 times lower than in Germany. and the salary is 9 times less. where is the money, zin ???
  35. +2
    22 November 2013 22: 49
    That's because of such articles I left the site ...
    Brothers .... do you want to discuss something else?
    WE ..none..and call us ... NO ....
    why verbally?
    Instead, I went to the People's Initiative ... complete garbage ...
    Open Resource ... the same garbage ...
    ...
    wherever you go ... sheer nonsense .... but our GUARANTEES ... mother ... they fatten, the boyars ... fatten ...
    and here we are ... raping Klava ...
    SHOULDER ....
  36. +1
    22 November 2013 23: 59
    Alf wrote

    And the offer is simple and visible with the naked eye — the entire court camarilla, the whole united Russia from the children and the household — to the lanterns.

    And the further you go, the more people will agree with you.
  37. Alf
    +3
    23 November 2013 01: 05
    Quote: EvilLion
    Yeah, here they’re taking and they are driving designers from VAZ, did they understand what they wrote? However, you also have some kind of Ford Focus thread, which means you should be silent.

    Read what is happening on the VAZ, you look, and you yourself will understand.
    And here is my beauty.
    1. +1
      23 November 2013 15: 50
      Quote: Alf
      Read what is happening on the VAZ, you look, and you yourself will understand.
      And here is my beauty.

      For the state of the "beauty" "+" good
  38. VADEL
    0
    23 November 2013 06: 14
    I read the comments. In truth, fools and roads. recourse
  39. -1
    23 November 2013 09: 26
    Comments about Potemkin villages in Russia and terrible roads are written by some Fantastic Woodpeckers ... Or agents of the State Department!

    My family and I have been traveling exclusively by car for many years (since 1999). All around Russia. And not only. I allow myself here, in short, to share my travel observations.

    Until 2007, each year, under its own power, traveled from the Urals to the Crimea. Route M5. To Samara is quite a normal road. Samara - Saratov - Volgograd there is practically no road! Volgograd-Rostov-on-Don-Simferopol-Yalta - An exceptionally good road!

    In 2008, they drove from the Far East on their own. Along the still under construction "Putin" route. Between Biobidzhan and Chita there were 1500 km of fear and horror!
    Buryatia is a great asphalt!
    In the Irkutsk region, asphalt is good. But beyond Irkutsk, many literally beggars on the roads sell berries, cones, mushrooms.
    Then there was Taishet. After the bombardment and the simultaneous shelling of the rock, the rock probably looks unmatched better! Funnels in rocade are less deep and less frequent.
    In the Krasnoyarsk Territory, we walked along taiga roads, along dirt roads, crossed rivers along some kind of wooden staggering bridges. In one of the villages stopped to ask for directions. Shot a colorful desperate elderly Siberian with grandchildren.
    Krasnoyarsk - Novosibirsk through Tomsk - passed with varying success. Either beautiful asphalt, or good (high-quality) soil.
    Novosibirsk - Omsk - did not notice how they went. Brick on the gas and go. Great road.
    Omsk - Berdyuzhye - the road was actively built.

    At that time, the "Road Revolution" began in Chelyabinsk. We began to massively build multi-level interchanges. Somewhere to lay new asphalt.

    2009 went to rest on the Sea of ​​Japan. We walked along the partially built "Putin" route. From last year's 1500 km of fear, only 300 km of soil remained. Quite normal, which allowed to go at a speed of 70-80 km / h.
    Under Chita, the traffic police crew stopped us and demanded money by hook or by crook. The crew was sent with their wishes. Apparently, the fact that we were not "hauls" played a role and we were released.
    In the Irkutsk region, they walked at night. Neither beggars nor berries, mushrooms, cones were seen.
    Tayshet was sprinkled with soil. High-quality dumped.
    In the Krasnoyarsk Territory, they walked along taiga paths already MUCH MUCH less. Mostly on the new highway. We were planning to call on an elderly Siberian to give a printed photo with my grandchildren, but we no longer met wooden bridges, nor this village. The new track went around all this.
    Krasnoyarsk-Novosibirsk via Kemerovo. CHIC track with a new coating !!! Brick on the gas and go! 154-150 km / h!
    Novosibirsk-Omsk in the same mode. They were fined for speeding 40 km / h. Sinful. I repent. But the road is completely EMPTY !!! True, it was early in the morning.
    Omsk-Berdyuzhye - A NEW EXTENDED ROUTE! Brick for gas!
    Berdyuzhye-Kurgan-Chelyabinsk - the same as before. There are no large pits, but you won’t especially speed up.
  40. -1
    23 November 2013 10: 08
    In Chelyabinsk in 2009, the city began expanding its main highways and laying new asphalt throughout almost the entire city.

    2010 year. A trip to the Caucasus. Mineral waters. The route Chelyabinsk-Ufa-Samara-Saratov-Volgograd-Elista-Minvody.
    It’s a normal road. In Kalmykia - EXCELLENT!
    In Elista, Kalmyk traffic cops tried to take money for a child without a child seat. I had to show that our long child at the age of 8 is already quite held by regular restraints. Satisfied - untied.

    2011. Crimea. The route Chelyabinsk-Ufa-Samara-Saratov-Volgograd-Rostov-on-Don-Mariupol-Simferopol-Yalta
    . Very good road surface in Russia! No complaints. In Ukraine, roads began to be covered with pits and abysses.

    year 2012. January. Route Peter-Minsk. Heavy snow all the way. But the roads are good.

    year 2012. The state gave us (and even a bunch of townspeople) 14 acres of land for construction, 5 kilometers from the city limits. There are all communications on the site. really gave. I paid only for land surveying, registration and other state duties. Less than 10 rubles came into the circle. Together with transportation costs. No paperwork. Everything is clear and on time.
    August. Far East. Slav.
    In Vladivostok EXCELLENT coverage. The city was transformed for the summit VERY and VERY strongly !!! New bridges are a NEW MIRACLE OF LIGHT !!!
    Road Vladivostok-Slavyanka. Actively built. Where there was soil - a new canvas is being built. For real. With a huge amount of earthwork.
    Vladivostok-Khabarovsk-Birobidzhan. Updated asphalt pavement.
    Birobidzhan-Novobureysk (300km) is actively building a NEW highway. Brand new. The old is removed by graders, excavators, bulldozers. Pour and pave a new one!
    Novobureisk-Chita "Putin's" track. GORGEOUS 4-lane highway !!! 1500 km! There are small depths here and there, but they do not spoil the experience and do not particularly strain.
    In settlements - active construction of the private sector.
    Chita-Buryatia-Irkutsk-Kasnoyarsk VERY MUCH NEW, ALL NEW fairly large segments of the road.
    Drive hard. There are no pits on the roads. Fall asleep at the wheel.
    Everywhere there is a massive construction of the private sector. Especially in Buryatia.
    People have been given land all over Russia.
    Krasnoyarsk-Kemerovo-Novosibirsk-Omsk-Berdyuzhye-Kurgan-Chelyabinsk. Made NEW bypass roads around the cities. I didn’t have to go straight through any city. The roads are great.

    In Chelyabinsk, ALL city roads are put in order. Lighting appeared even on those roads on which they had never been in my life. There are no holes in the streets. All intersections have been expanded. Branches were laid past the traffic lights "Turn right under a red light past the traffic lights". Today Chelyabinsk is a metropolis with a population of 1 inhabitants - a city without traffic jams! And the roads are GREAT!
  41. 0
    23 November 2013 10: 33
    February 2013 Meteorite in Chelyabinsk. A lot of broken windows ... The regional government finds the opportunity and allocates funds to eliminate the consequences. Very clear and harmonious! Glasses replaced in record time! It was impossible otherwise! The city would really freeze! In state institutions, and these are d / kindergartens, schools, colleges, cultural centers, music schools, sports schools, sports facilities, all broken windows are replaced with euro-packages. Even in those d / gardens where 1-2 windows were knocked out, ALL frames were replaced.
    Private persons were compensated from the budget for damage. Those who were not too lazy to collect paper and prove documented damage. All that was required was to photograph a broken window or an embossed frame and write a statement.
    We were too lazy ... Neighbors - were not too lazy and received compensation for one window 5 000r !!! Replaced one sash Europack and more money remained. And we are with a skewed sash and live. Laziness is mother.

  42. -1
    23 November 2013 10: 54
    Summer 2013 The route Chelyabinsk-Ufa-Samara-Saratov-Volgograd-Elista-Minvody-Kislovodsk-Minvody-Stavrop
    ol-Rostov-on-Don-Voronezh-Smolensk-Minsk-Brest-Minsk-Moscow-Nizhny Novgorod-Kazan-Naberezhnye Chelny-Ufa-Chelyabinsk. 8200 km.

    EXCELLENT ROADS !!! EXCELLENT !!! In Bashkiria, overtook through a double continuous! He was immediately stopped by the traffic police. Read the half hour notation. RELEASED !!! Not a word about money! They explained that they were only letting go because I give the impression of a conscious driver and on the road, at the time of my overtaking there were only two cars. Mine and the one I overtook. It's true. From the horizon - to the horizon there was no more than a single car on the road.
    Under Min.Water stopped the traffic police. He blew into the breathalyzer - went on. Without a single extra word. No ppm - goodbye!
    Near Voronezh I came under the camera. Exceeding 10 km / h. 300 rub. The letter came to the home address.
    In Voronezh, he laid a route on the navigator to Bryansk-Smolensk. I was not satisfied with the roads that the navigator offered. I told him that we were riding a bicycle ... The navigator paved a more direct path but along rural roads. Decided to go.
    EXCELLENT ROADS !!! EXCELLENT! Smooth asphalt. And completely empty! A bit narrow only. 2 stripes.
    At the entrance to Smolensk we stopped the traffic police. They took an interest in how we felt. Saluted and wished a good trip!
    Moscow was very annoying with crazy traffic on the ring road and traffic jams at the exit.
    In Naberezhnye Chelny we stayed with friends whom we had not seen for 20 years! Communicated by phone, e-mail ... The state gave them land in the suburbs. Are being built. And not just them. To many.

    So those who shout about "Potemkin Villages" and "Putin's Trails" in modern Russia - SHAKE LIKE JACKALS!

    Remember the jackal of Sherkhan?
    - "And we will go north! And we will go north!"

    Let them go ... Though north even to Yug!
  43. 0
    23 November 2013 10: 55
    I finished my story - now let’s have unreasonable cons!
  44. 0
    23 November 2013 13: 31
    "Potemkin villages" (so called) in Russia - USSR - Russia have always been. They always stole, a little more - a little less, but ALWAYS. Sometimes people knew about it, more often they didn't. Regarding the designers of Avtovaz: at every forum on the operation of Lada-Zhiguli cars, these designers are present, so find out from them.
  45. -3
    23 November 2013 15: 15
    Quote: rsnv
    There is no investment, there has not been and will not be. Any normal investor is aware of the real situation in a degrading RF and its image cannot be spoiled by anything, and the crisis is on in the world, so investors are not up to investing today.


    Another student reached the keyboard? No investment? You at least read business magazines, listen to the news, foreigners invest money in Russia, not in large volumes, of course, but investments are being made.

    In what place is the Russian Federation degrading? It degraded at 90-00, now we are climbing, not everything is going smoothly, but we are developing.
  46. bevatec
    +2
    23 November 2013 15: 45
    According to GOST 50597-93, potholes and potholes were allowed on roads no more than 60 by 15 and a depth of 5 cm. In 2011, the permissible dimensions were also reviewed: 1,5 m by 0,5 m and 7 cm deep. We are the only and unique in the world ongoing dibilism.
  47. +1
    23 November 2013 18: 23
    Quote: Stiletto
    Quote: Uncle
    I have Lada Largus, I'm happy as an elephant. And the roads are normal.


    Here it is, our psychology. And then the Japanese look at KAMAZ and are surprised: what can these Russians not think of so that they can’t build good roads!

    Regarding normal roads: come to us in the Tver region, go for a drive, see what remains of the suspension in a season.


    The road situation in most of the settlements is sad. I live in Novosibirsk for a couple of years, the road sucks, there are no normal interchanges and are not expected. People who are richer try to buy jeeps and SUVs, otherwise the suspension is killed quickly. Some of the local population say that it was much worse before, but something is hard to believe. I guess I have a different concept of roads, just because of my old work I had to visit many countries in Asia, Europe, Latin and North America, Africa, etc. Therefore, I have something to compare with. For example, in Australia, such "cars" calmly maneuver on the roads. I am silent about Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, Brazil - we have directions, not roads in comparison with them.

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