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Why is Russia stalling?

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Why is Russia stalling?



Why the younger generation of Russians do not want anything? Or not, wants, and all, immediately and just like that! Don't do anything! Everything is somehow “ruined” itself ... And the lack of the desire to create something yourself and take responsibility is interfered in a monstrous and paradoxical cocktail with some excessive demands on others: parents, acquaintances, teachers, doctors, the state ... And the state for such guys it is something demonic, only demanding from them and giving nothing in return, although in reality everything is different, I would even say diametrically opposite!

These people are, as a rule, from good families, who grew up in large cities, received education in their own country. They never experienced attention deficit, they were always dressed and fed. It seems that there are no reasons for such opposition thinking!

The absence of the simplest understanding of what a state is is surprising. No, I do not mean legal terminology, geography, political science, and so on ... I’m talking about the simple understanding that the state, no matter what anyone says, is the people! And so that it, the state, flourishes and gives you more and more benefits, it is necessary to create each person in his own place. No need to step back, you need to work, be initiative! Change the world, starting with yourself, with your family, acquaintances, friends, co-workers. Do not be like the part of the population that only requires! He lives only from Friday evening to Monday, and the rest of the time he sits at the place he calls work! Exactly that way, just sitting out ... Going to work without any desire, with great hope that nobody will disturb them today, nobody will notice that there will be little work, and even better if they let them go home early and thereby allow a couple to live an extra watch ... Some kind of totally childlike attitude, agree!

Most likely, these people have chosen the wrong profession and are not engaged in their business, it is obvious! And here it turns out what an unpleasant situation: a huge number of Russians are not in their place, trying to do work that they do not like and, as a result, makes it with a lack of desire, interest and all enthusiasm. They do not succeed or it turns out wrong. And how should our state function in such conditions? It's like a car on punctured tires ... Whoever sits at the helm ... No matter what ace the driver is ... Thank God, if we don’t fall into a ditch, we crawl in first gear ... and we won’t get the speed!

I remember once talking with my former classmate: she complained that she would not become an art historian in Russia (a dream from childhood), because in our country it is not developed, that supposedly we need to leave ... I can’t understand ! After all, if everyone talks like this girl, our country will continue to slip in place! Disgusting in their short-sightedness and selfish reasoning! “If it doesn’t work with us, then I will leave for another country ... I’m good at it ...” - a terrible delusion! Units will come in handy! But so many young guys argue! And, as a result, an efficient population is leaking from Russia, which further slows down the development that is already barely gaining momentum!

But where are the ambitious ideas and ambitious plans? After all, even the problem of my classmate (which I mentioned above) can be approached from the other side! We do not have a developed art history segment in the country (I don’t know if this is really so, this is from the words of an acquaintance, but for example it will still work). Is this not a reason to take up the development? Doesn't that mean low competition in the industry? But our country has an interesting history and rich culture! This is a huge undeveloped material, huge potential! Of course, it is easier to come to everything that is ready, but it is much more interesting to create something of your own, something new! Yes, these are difficulties, yes, it will take more time and take away more nerves ... But the returns will be much more! Is it really better to “wind off” your whole life in a job that is not interesting for you? Perhaps, over time, come to terms with this, but you will still not be a happy person ... Or go abroad, in fact, work for someone else's economy?

What is it? Fashion like that? Fashion for the lack of ambition and any manifestation of the initiative? Disgusting fashion imposed by overseas propaganda? Trying to destroy our country from the inside? Maybe! It is necessary to do something, and you need to start with yourself!
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  1. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 22 November 2013 06: 56 New
    10
    Do not ask what the state has done for you, ask what you have done for the state?
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 22 November 2013 08: 58 New
      11
      Quote: Volodya Sibiryak
      Do not ask what the state has done for you, ask what you have done for the state?

      The author supposes the article I wrote, which I put a minus. Reason: the title does not match the content. Because what the author considered in the article is just one and not the most important part of the problem. Or rather one of the reasons, but it is secondary and arises as a consequence the more serious reasons that lie in the economic sphere and, as has been said many times due to the lack of ideology. The author suggests everyone to start with ourselves, but we all live in a society in which there is a certain system, laws and norms, and which people follow. In principle, it raises one of the serious problems, but offers to solve it from the end (from each individual person), in this cunning, only by changing the system, starting from the top to the very bottom, it will be possible to change the behavior of a person. Without this, all calls will be empty words.
      1. vedmeddd
        vedmeddd 22 November 2013 11: 03 New
        +3
        And how can people who are uninitiated, weak, not loving their country, and in the end just lazy people, can change the state? The author is right! You have to start with yourself! And, Russians, you have to work! Work as soon as we Russians know how!
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 22 November 2013 11: 19 New
          11
          Quote: vedmeddd
          You have to start with yourself! And, Russians, you have to work! Work as soon as we Russians know how!

          And you with this appeal come to the enterprise where the worker receives 20 thousand, and the manager 200 thousand, and address the workers with an ardent speech. Better yet, to feel the effect of the draft in full, welcome to the SEC "Palekh AGRO "where salaries are not paid for half a year.
        2. Ustas
          Ustas 23 November 2013 08: 08 New
          -2
          Quote: vedmeddd
          You have to start with yourself! And, Russians, you have to work! Work as soon as we Russians know how!

          Is this another subbot call?
      2. APES
        APES 22 November 2013 11: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: baltika-18
        changing the system, from top to bottom


        If the tops can’t, but the bottoms no longer want

        then the system changes from bottom to top - the question is, which is more efficient?
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 22 November 2013 12: 55 New
          +3
          Quote: APES
          If the tops can’t, but the bottoms no longer want

          then the system changes from bottom to top - the question is, which is more efficient?

          Here, the question of painlessness for the population and the state would be more appropriate. From this point of view, changes from above are less painless if they enjoy the support of the majority of the population. But at present, the Putin and Co corporation is not able to change anything, because to change for her is equal to destroy herself. The guys will not agree to this, because many of them (the overwhelming majority) will simply become unnecessary, they will turn into no one. Who will voluntarily give up "sweet things"?
          This is thought to be the most painful question of modern Russia. Here is the answer to the question of why successes and rearmament began on the international arena and so startling impotence in domestic politics, bordering sometimes on insanity. We passed this at the beginning of the 20th century.
      3. true love
        true love 22 November 2013 13: 28 New
        +1
        This is sheer demagoguery! No uncle will come and do your homework for you! If the person himself does not get better, no one will force him! It is an absolute utopia to think that "the master will come and judge everything, and will do everything for us." I fully agree with the article. It depends on each person in what state we live. To the question "How do they live in the north?" (about the Scythians), Socrates answered: "they have a king (law) in their heads ...".
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 23 November 2013 08: 17 New
          0
          Quote: true love
          No uncle will come and do homework for you! ... It depends on each person in which state we live.

          Do you call for barricades?
    2. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 22 November 2013 09: 17 New
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      Quote: Volodya Sibiryak
      Do not ask what the state has done for you, ask what you have done for the state?

      To be honest, this thesis has already been sickened, we don’t owe anything to this state, and we don’t have to do anything for it. What is the state in the normal sense of the word? This is not the homeland, this is not the land of the ancestors, this is just a structure of power. So to separate power from the state is at least hypocrisy. When the authorities believe that private owners should manage the economy and production, because of their best interest, then in this case it turns out that stupid people can manage the state because of their no interest? and then who needs such power and such a state. Now about work and ambition, the author believes that we all should open our own business, become businessmen, then who will work? And if someone works for the owner, then what are your ambitions? enrich the host as much as possible? Is it not a madhouse.
      1. washi
        washi 22 November 2013 11: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Quote: Volodya Sibiryak
        Do not ask what the state has done for you, ask what you have done for the state?

        To be honest, this thesis has already been sickened, we don’t owe anything to this state, and we don’t have to do anything for it. What is the state in the normal sense of the word? This is not the homeland, this is not the land of the ancestors, this is just a structure of power. So to separate power from the state is at least hypocrisy. When the authorities believe that private owners should manage the economy and production, because of their best interest, then in this case it turns out that stupid people can manage the state because of their no interest? and then who needs such power and such a state. Now about work and ambition, the author believes that we all should open our own business, become businessmen, then who will work? And if someone works for the owner, then what are your ambitions? enrich the host as much as possible? Is it not a madhouse.

        Therefore, it is necessary to introduce an ideology into the Constitution and make Soviet power, i.e. folk.
        In Russia, there was ALWAYS collectivism (community, camaraderie) and Western individualism is difficult to take root (mainly among non-Russian people). And for the team, the goal (idea) is important
      2. Far East
        Far East 22 November 2013 11: 33 New
        0
        Quote: vladsolo56
        To be honest, this thesis has already been sickened, we don’t owe anything to this state, and we don’t have to do anything for it. What is the state in the normal sense of the word? This is not the homeland, this is not the land of the ancestors, this is just

        + + + + + good good good drinks
      3. APES
        APES 22 November 2013 11: 50 New
        +2
        no causal relationship
        between:
        Quote: vladsolo56
        the authorities believe that private owners should manage the economy and production, because of their better interest

        и
        Quote: vladsolo56
        then in this case it turns out the state can be controlled by stupid people because of their no interest


        can not
        Quote: vladsolo56
        stupid people can rule the state

        there are smart people - this cannot be taken away from them, though many other qualities cause disgust, but it’s possible in the authorities without it.

        Quote: vladsolo56
        their no interest

        I assure you - there is interest there, and it’s undisguised. The question is what it is.
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      5. goldfinger
        goldfinger 22 November 2013 12: 19 New
        +2
        Quote: vladsolo56
        To be honest, this thesis has already been sickened, we don’t owe anything to this state, and we don’t have to do anything for it.

        Right to the point! There is a constant, deliberate substitution of the concepts of "Motherland" and "state", which for some reason must be loved! What if I really love my Motherland, and, for example, hate the existing regime?
        This whole gang of sales! Who are the heroes of Germany during the war - Goering and Sepp Dietrich, or Stauffenberg with like-minded people? So our eastern friends are "stuck" because they are forced to love something that does not even command respect.
    3. APES
      APES 22 November 2013 10: 20 New
      +2
      regarding the article:


      Who is more in the answer: seduced or seduced?

      from the answer to this question there will arise an understanding of what needs to be done.
      1. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 22 November 2013 10: 44 New
        +4
        Up to 30 years old, I was engaged in trading, then it dawned on me not! Now I am engaged in water transport (mine), which is not subsidized by the state in any way, and do not require assistance from the state.
        1. APES
          APES 22 November 2013 11: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          I was engaged in trade, then it dawned on me, now I’m engaged in water transport (mine),


          You already told us about this ...

          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          , and I don’t require help from the state


          you are well done

          but the article was about
          about the young generation of Russians who want nothing


          your suggestions, it is very interesting to listen to you
      2. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 22 November 2013 10: 44 New
        0
        Quote: APES
        regarding the article:


        Who is more in the answer: seduced or seduced?

        from the answer to this question there will arise an understanding of what needs to be done.
        what responsibility are you talking about? if you are not seducing a smart enough person, is it not hypocrisy and dishonesty at least. It is unlikely to seduce an intelligent person.
        1. APES
          APES 22 November 2013 11: 23 New
          0
          Quote: vladsolo56
          if you are not seducing an intelligent enough person, is it not hypocrisy and dishonesty at least. It is unlikely to seduce a smart person


          explain, did not understand anything from what you said
    4. goldfinger
      goldfinger 22 November 2013 18: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Volodya Sibiryak
      Do not ask what the state has done for you, ask what you have done for the state?

      The quote supposedly invented by the High Leader of the Sith, in the original, sounds like this "Don't ask what your country has done for you, ask what you can do for your country."
      "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country". Kennedy.

      But a country and a state are not the same thing.
      The country is, rather, the homeland.
      Kennedy, in general, was a comprehensive man - a hero of World War II, clever, womanizer (womanizer), pragmatist and romantic. Here are some of his sayings -
      And we will do it. Not because it is easy, but because it is difficult. - Speech to US citizens before the start of the Lunar program
      And one person can change something, and everyone should try.
      When I took office, I was most struck by the fact that things were really as bad as we claimed.
      Either humanity will end war, or war will end humanity.
      Do not ask God for an easy life, ask Him to make you stronger.
      Do not ask what your country has done for you, ask what you can do for your country.
      Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.
      The word "crisis", written in Chinese, consists of two characters: one means "danger", and the other - "an opportunity."
      I am an idealist without illusions.
      You can forget your enemies, but do not forget their names.
      One who can fail can achieve much.
      The nation manifests itself not only in the people to whom it gives life, but also in what people it honors, what people it remembers.
      A committee is twelve people doing the work of one.
      Sincerity always needs proof.
      In domestic politics, we only risk being defeated; foreign policy can bring us to the grave.
      Negotiation should never be out of fear.
      Success has many fathers, and failure is always an orphan.
      Joseph Kennedy was very fond of his granddaughter, the daughter of John Kennedy.
      “Caroline is a very smart girl, you weren’t like that at her age,” he once said to his son.
      “No wonder,” John answered, “look who my father is and who her. [Source?]

      Those who make a peaceful revolution impossible make a violent revolution inevitable.
      I was convinced that the diplomat needed the iron nerves of a professional pickpocket.
      Selfless - illusions, self-serving - money for which you can buy illusions.
      Change is the law of life. And those who look only at the past or only at the present, no doubt, will miss the future.
      ... we must never forget that the highest achievement is not to pronounce loud words, but to live by them.
      The more stupid things I do, the more popular I get.
      The reason for making the final decision remains unknown to the observer, and often to the person who makes the decision.
      There are no such leaders now, even in the long term.
    5. Ustas
      Ustas 23 November 2013 08: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Volodya Sibiryak
      Do not ask what the state has done for you, ask what you have done for the state?

      State - an instrument of exploitation of the oppressed class
      Lenin VI
  2. Oskar
    Oskar 22 November 2013 06: 56 New
    14
    It’s my fault - and I pour tears,
    And ohhh -
    Got into someone else's rut
    Deep.
    I set my goals
    The choice itself
    And now from the rut
    Do not get out.
    V.S. Vysotsky
  3. avant-garde
    avant-garde 22 November 2013 06: 58 New
    +6
    Most likely, these people have chosen the wrong profession and are not doing their job
    ____
    there is another option hands from ... py grow
    1. Edward72
      Edward72 22 November 2013 07: 13 New
      +9
      Unfortunately this is so, for ten years on the fingers of one hand I met young children who are in their place and with their heads.
      1. Kolya
        Kolya 22 November 2013 09: 47 New
        +3
        As the saying goes, this is a curse to live in times of change. And what do you want, how 17-year-olds can make the right choice without the experience and knowledge of real life. And the state has no time to deal with youth, everything is busy with changes.
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 22 November 2013 11: 04 New
        +9
        Quote: Edward72
        Unfortunately this is so, for ten years on the fingers of one hand I met young children who are in their place and with their heads.

        this is only one part.
        Here is another excerpt from the subject:she complained that she would not become an art historian in Russia (a dream since childhood), because it is not developed in our country, that, they say, we must leave ... I cannot understand this! After all, if everyone argues like this girl, our country will skid on the spot! Disgusting in their shortsightedness and selfishness reasoning! "If this does not work for us, then I will leave for another country ... There I will come in handy ..." - a terrible mistake! Units come in handy! But so many young guys argue! And, as a result, an able-bodied population flows out of Russia, which further slows down the already barely growing development! - the author of SABZH is similar to Manilov. Why? Well, I don’t know about art history, but about experimental and design work in Kazakhstan (well, in Russia a little better, but not much), it’s generally bad - we have to work almost on enthusiasm, kickbacks for such work reach 90% (!! !). The one on whom the funding depends will tell you: "Like, write something about some kind of report, well, like I did some research, here's a sample, I'll accept and write off these money, I'm 90%, but here's 10% for you - it's not enough for you Just write a bunch of pages of crap and for that - (here is the number) ". The author of SABZH proposes to fight this. How? Knock? Well I knocked. Even if they are imprisoned, another will come exactly the same, but they will not let you go to a cannon shot at all, so on what grounds they refuse to finance you, as if thereby saving "state money on dubious research" - do not worry, it will.
        Dear ones, the time has ended when the techno-inventor pushed around the thresholds with the goal of at least conducting experimental work; there was not even any personal reward. ALL! The author of Sabzh - rest! TIRED! No, if you want a 90% kickback, it means that the state is NOT INTERESTING, so we are leaving and strengthening the state to which it is INTERESTING, and the native state that sent you so far, let it lose in the end geopolitical competition. Maybe then there is hope that it itself, this state, frightened by the real prospect of its death, will finally come to its senses and turn to face its own inventors! But he won’t turn around - and there is a way for him, how can one be saved who doesn’t even try to be saved?
        In the 70s, the USSR was in second place after the United States in the number of filing patents for an invention per thousand people. Now Russia is at the level of Uganda and BELOW! And the state even after such an impressive fall does not even itch! Does this say anything? Is talking. In words of Rogozina for stimulating invention, but in reality, beginning designers stumble upon such a thing that the fur coat is wrapped! And in the United States you have already heard - about the same DAPRU. Yes, DAPRA squandered the money a bit in vain, there are a lot of failures, like a plane-based laser shooting down. But she also has so many victories! And the total amount in the end is positive!
        Start with yourself. Yes, they began, but how can these customs that have developed over the 90s be changed? AS?
    2. aviamed90
      aviamed90 22 November 2013 09: 56 New
      +5
      avant-garde

      I think this is banal egoism and laziness.

      And the reason is simple - the main slogan of the state at the present time is "Who does not work, he eats" or in other words "Why work if you can steal?", As well as "Money is everything."

      It has been instilled in us since the 90's and quite successfully. Why now do we demand diametrically opposite from people?
  4. PLO
    PLO 22 November 2013 07: 06 New
    +1
    in some ways true, but not all
  5. Predator-74
    Predator-74 22 November 2013 07: 12 New
    +4
    A lot can be said about the choice of a profession, in my opinion both the state and the younger generation are to blame for the existing problem (the head should be on the shoulders).
    Often, the choice of a profession is made by the parents of a teenager, focusing on prestige or fashion, which is not completely clear to me, or fashion, which is shaped by the media, not without "Western" help, that is where the state should carefully intervene.
    That is, of course, this is not the only problem of course, they can be listed here endlessly, but you can start with this one.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 22 November 2013 07: 30 New
      +5
      Yes, most parents dream of seeing their child in the chair. And with hands, like let others work. So these kids go studying for lawyers and economists. The state created the prerequisites, on the one hand, undermining the prestige of technical professions and closing technical schools and vocational schools, we finish the rest ourselves.
    2. dropout
      dropout 22 November 2013 14: 17 New
      +2
      You can talk a lot about the choice of profession
      Unfortunately, I don’t have much to say. With the defeat of industry, this choice was reduced by orders of magnitude. And our people, for the most part, are creators. There is practically no place for the application of creative potential. And this caused such harm, the consequences of which literally destroy the soul of the people.
  6. stayer
    stayer 22 November 2013 07: 14 New
    13
    There is no scientific approach on most issues.
    Freedom of speech freed everyone. On television in programs (especially on RenTV Prokopenko) such nonsense is carried that the ears are wrapped in a tube. I often communicate with young people. It seems that I communicate with people from the 18th century. No ideas about science, about space, about history, about everything ...

    And if earlier (in Soviet times) young people were divided into physicists and lyricists. Each group enthusiastically promoted its path for the good of their homeland. From that there were outstanding scientists and outstanding creative people.

    Which exit? Limit anti-science broadcasts and glances to the West. Raise your "physicists" and "lyricists" while there is still someone. Well, the "general idea" is needed. This is, of course, more difficult, but you have to ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 22 November 2013 09: 24 New
      +1
      The question of how to do this, where to find the new QUEEN, Mendeleev, Lomonosov-it seems to me such people appear not according to our will, but according to the will from above.
      In nature, everything is balanced.
      It’s a pity that in RUSSIA the attitude to talents is frivolous, but this is God's gift and they should not be scattered.
      1. sergey32
        sergey32 22 November 2013 09: 57 New
        +6
        How to make? To search!
        The other day, one comrade on the forum wrote how Lee Kuan Yew led Singapore to the lead. He not only fiercely fought corruption. Gifted children were specially selected from schools, they were taught separately according to special programs, then they were sent to study abroad and made of them the national elite, which is successfully building a prosperous state.
        Everything can be done, there would be a desire.
        1. Ustas
          Ustas 23 November 2013 08: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: sergey32
          How to do? Search! A few days ago, one comrade on the forum wrote how Lee Kuan Yew led Singapore to the lead. He not only fiercely fought corruption. Gifted children were specially selected from schools, they were taught separately according to special programs, then they were sent to study abroad and made of them the national elite, which is successfully building a prosperous state.

          Well, it seems to me, gentlemen, that Putin is not Lee Kuan Yu.
          Quote: sergey32
          Everything can be done, there would be a desire.

          And what are you talking about?
    2. Captain45
      Captain45 22 November 2013 20: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: stayer
      Which exit? Limit anti-science broadcasts and glances to the West. Raise your "physicists" and "lyricists" while there is still someone. Well, the "general idea" is needed. This is, of course, more difficult, but you have to ...

      And the main thing is to restore the Soviet approach to teaching in education, so that the school really educates and teaches students, and does not provide educational services. Damn, almost everyone does not work, but only provides services, a land of sexes: "What will you please?"
  7. smel
    smel 22 November 2013 07: 14 New
    +9
    Advise her, let him go to lawyers or do banking. We have it developed. The master bank collapsed. The media issued that 2200 people were left without work. There are almost 1000 banks in the country ... That is, 2 million people saw headstock, not metal. In the regional administration of a small entity 2800 employees. Another third of a million active bayonets. All sorts of private security companies, markets. But there are ministries, departments, administrations, state level services. Let him go there ... It will not be boring. And then an art critic decided. But the real sector of the economy - there is no one to deal with. Only here oil and gas pump ... Probably all the same it stalls precisely because of this, and not because of office mold
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 22 November 2013 07: 45 New
      +4
      But they are bored, because the economy has moved to the non-productive sector. I remember a student in practice spent one month in an office in the North. Got a lot of money without doing anything, but almost died of boredom. Then I decided the office is not my way.
      The state should regain control over education and give permission for the training of specialists only to the extent necessary for the economy so that there is no army of lawyers that no one needs.
  8. Belogor
    Belogor 22 November 2013 07: 15 New
    +5
    It affects the upbringing laid down in the late 80s and in the 90s, when everywhere (cinema, literature, public mood) the cult of profit and freebies was only propagandized. This trend has not changed much now.
    They study only for a diploma, knowledge is not held in high esteem, and besides, they are not particularly required.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 22 November 2013 07: 45 New
      +6
      Heh, now the cult of money and consumption has become even greater, which we are constantly reminded of from most television channels. Well, during the breaks between the series about cops, House-2 and the news about the next terrorist attack.
  9. predator.3
    predator.3 22 November 2013 07: 19 New
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    Most likely, these people have chosen the wrong profession and are not engaged in their own business, this is obvious!


    Well, of course, for example: an officer has served faithfully for dozens of years and some sort of Serdyukov from the Lenmebeltorg comes and says, it is necessary to "optimize" (that is, reduce) the officer corps and throws hundreds of thousands of officers into the street! Did they choose the wrong profession?

    Why does the younger generation of Russians want nothing? Or not, he wants, moreover, everything, immediately and just like that!


    Yes, we have a normal young generation! Maybe more advanced than our generation, but otherwise everything is the same.

    But where are the ambitious ideas and ambitious plans?


    It was during the time of Leonid Brezhnev that there were ambitious ideas and large-scale plans, the construction of hydroelectric power stations, factories and the development of Siberia! and now what? Well, we built branches of screwdriver car factories and that’s it! and how many have ruined and closed?
  10. makarov
    makarov 22 November 2013 07: 23 New
    +4
    The topic is very difficult! The first stage of consciousness and awareness occurs simultaneously in two parallels. It is a family and a society. By society I mean that circle of contacts when the child is outside the family. As a rule, the child assimilates and accepts for truth what, how, and with what conclusions occurs in the family. Naturally, information on the impact from society, including the media, acts on it in the same way. It is in this way that the symbiosis of perception arises, which is later transferred as the logic of actions to action or inaction.
    SW readers. I ask you not to take my words critically, but answer YOURSELF (and here mostly people are adults and held) to one question: - Why do you live ??? After receiving the answer, think again about it, ask additional questions.
    PS
    Type answer: Planting a tree, leaving offspring and building a house cannot be a criterion. Man is distinguished from the animal by the ability to think. But an animal without intelligence and builds housing, and produces offspring, and educates him, and indeed, the bird flew, popped like a grain, and the tree grew.
    1. rereture
      rereture 22 November 2013 08: 39 New
      +1
      Animals also think and analyze, just a person can do a deeper analysis.
      1. makarov
        makarov 22 November 2013 08: 51 New
        +1
        Sorry. But from the stated material there is a partial absence thereof.
    2. Prometheus
      Prometheus 22 November 2013 14: 51 New
      0
      "What are we living for?" - it's about the meaning of life. The meaning of life for me is to set goals and achieve them.
      PS I'm not an adult and have not yet taken place, if that.
  11. Alex66
    Alex66 22 November 2013 07: 30 New
    11
    In vain you condemn the young generation, it grew up in our country in Russia, not the USSR. Young people want to live well, but who does not want? They see who lives well in Russia, who workers, peasants, art historians, engineers, scientists, let's honestly not tell them. So why do we think that they should endure and wait 20 years until something is achieved in life, when there are a lot of examples of how all problems are solved by successful marriage (Serdyukov), family ties. Their talent and hard work will, at best, allow them to support their families and go to Egypt once every 5 years. We have developed a clan system in Russia and they simply will not be allowed to get into it from the street, and not a hunt is needed to work for a piece of bread, at least some other idea is needed, but it is not.
  12. Stinger
    Stinger 22 November 2013 07: 36 New
    -4
    So, from childhood, we instill the consciousness of the fact that you can achieve everything and immediately without making efforts. Let us recall our beloved fairy tales, where Ivanushka - easily and simply, easily gets her way. Favorite - By pike command. From here on, in the future, as Saltykov-Shchedrin said, you always want something: either the constitution, or the stellar sturgeon with horseradish, or even rip someone off.
    1. rereture
      rereture 22 November 2013 08: 45 New
      +1
      In fairy tales, the aspect is done on morality. More often than not, good sooner or later defeats evil.
      1. Stinger
        Stinger 22 November 2013 09: 24 New
        +1
        The tale is a lie, but a hint in it, a lesson for good fellows.
  13. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 22 November 2013 07: 42 New
    +3
    hi "Fashion for lack of ambition and any display of initiative?" - yes, author, why, why, and our youth has more than enough ambitions, but it’s personal ambitious plans and the manifestation of an initiative for oneself (beloved). And those ambitions and initiatives have nothing to do with national interests, but because they see young people, work for yourself and be in chocolate, but in the interests of the state? ...
  14. Greenwood
    Greenwood 22 November 2013 07: 42 New
    10
    Author, listen to yourself from the outside: "come and create" ... If in Soviet times the state really encouraged the beginnings of young people, there were hobby groups for children, and later KB, research institutes, laboratories, industrial production, House of Culture, where everyone could one way or another find a use for yourself, now what? Industry in the pen, education in the pen, there is no culture as such, many professions are really unclaimed and low-paid. We have also lost the common goal, which at one time united people in their dreams and undertakings and led the Soviet people forward. From TV screens and monitors we are told that the main value is loot. Only here a good loot in our country can only be earned in certain professions and having connections. A good specialist who is well versed in his field of activity can expect to eventually get a good salary by Russian standards, but in the conditions of a general mess in the country, rampant corruption, he will prefer to go abroad, where he can get much more money, without wasting time and nerves to overcome bureaucratic delays in the public sector, the war with housing and communal services, various everyday problems, etc. The state wanted to spit on any good undertakings, we would rather carry out the next reforms in modernization, innovation, investment, etc. etc., and so that it is good if the industry after modernization still shows signs of life. In such conditions, you need to be a pathological patriot (or an idiot, who is closer to whom) and an optimist in life in order to try to organize something on your own, in the complete absence of support from the state.
    1. Maxim86
      Maxim86 22 November 2013 08: 23 New
      +3
      After reading your comment, I realized that I was writing my own in vain.
  15. George
    George 22 November 2013 07: 46 New
    +3
    Hello all.
    I wouldn’t blame everything on the youth either. With today's propaganda designed to carry consumer and absorber in your hands (which generally teaches you just what to buy first, but doesn’t say how to make money on it), the authorities are unlikely to get in young people an explosion of enthusiasm.
  16. Lyapis
    Lyapis 22 November 2013 07: 47 New
    -1
    It really looks like fashion in my opinion. Throw mud at the state, defend any (even the most positive) undertaking, show the "creativity" and "alternatives" of your thinking and then you will be fashionable, you will find yourself in a trend!
    It is possible that all this is being done, and not out of malice, but simply out of stupidity and unreason, but this does not make it easier ...
  17. olviko
    olviko 22 November 2013 07: 47 New
    +2
    "Fashion for the lack of ambition and any manifestation of initiative? Disgusting fashion imposed by overseas propaganda? An attempt to destroy our country from the inside? Perhaps! Something must be done, and you need to start with yourself!"

    Well, that's right. What slogan is in fashion now? Correctly "THE MARKET WILL REGULATE EVERYTHING ITSELF! Here youngsters are sitting in offices and waiting for everything to bloom by itself, just come and rake in an armful with both hands. Maybe remember the old, but more relevant in real life slogans. For example:" Personnel decides everything "or “Learn, learn and learn again.” “From each according to his ability - to each according to his work!” Is a very timely slogan, especially for our oligarchs. “Whoever is not with us is against us!” - I would have hung this slogan in the public eye place in the studio "Echo of Moscow", and the slogan "Do not talk" on the program with Solovyov, when Gozman or Svanidze speaks there. " Don't expect a good uncle to do everything for you. Know how to get along with work, loving various work. "- this is for our office plankton, no offense will be said.
    Our grandfathers were worried about the health of the future generation in the slogans and "Sexually transmitted diseases make life very difficult!" ... "Sobriety is the norm!"
    So, the new is the well-forgotten old. Maybe it's time to remember?
    And finally, "Take care of nature, your mother!"
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 22 November 2013 18: 19 New
      +2
      - And on the same topic: "Life will not ask what you taught ... it will sternly ask - what do you know ?!"
  18. Neighbor
    Neighbor 22 November 2013 07: 50 New
    +5
    In my youth I could go to almost any city in the USSR and find a job, they were given a dormitory. I didn’t like it — it’s never too late to change both the place of residence and work. Now, no matter what university you graduate from, work in a specialty is far from guaranteed. This is not a state matter, concern for young specialists.
  19. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 22 November 2013 07: 55 New
    +8
    from the Don.
    There are many reasons for the youth’s infatility. And, in my opinion, the main thing is that the creation society has turned into a consumer society! And envy? Young people, from the poor, see that majors do nothing, live, killing time in night clubs, drive expensive cars , they’re frightening them with not earned money. There is no work, and if there is one, it’s low-paid. The prestige of the worker, the peasant, is killed! So what do we want from the youth? And the media?
  20. Maxim86
    Maxim86 22 November 2013 08: 20 New
    +3
    The author complains about the reluctance of young people to move forward and develop the state. On this I agree with him. Everyone wants to work in an office and get big money (like in Hollywood movies). What is the reason? I think in the policy of the state itself regarding the education of young people. Look at the central TV channels. Instead of educational and educational programs, talk shows are shown. And those who are older see that a person working in production or in a scientific environment earns an order of magnitude less than an "effective manager". Add to all this constant scandals with multibillion-dollar embezzlement, failed reforms and an insolent banking system. About the bureaucrats, I generally keep quiet. Being under an avalanche of this negativity, a common man in the street loses initiative and desire to change something imperceptibly.
    Something needs to be changed ...
    Urgently
    1. washi
      washi 22 November 2013 11: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Maksim86
      The author complains about the reluctance of young people to move forward and develop the state. On this I agree with him. Everyone wants to work in an office and get big money (like in Hollywood movies). What is the reason? I think in the policy of the state itself regarding the education of young people. Look at the central TV channels. Instead of educational and educational programs, talk shows are shown. And those who are older see that a person working in production or in a scientific environment earns an order of magnitude less than an "effective manager". Add to all this constant scandals with multibillion-dollar embezzlement, failed reforms and an insolent banking system. About the bureaucrats, I generally keep quiet. Being under an avalanche of this negativity, a common man in the street loses initiative and desire to change something imperceptibly.
      Something needs to be changed ...
      Urgently

      I agree, but in order for young people to be distracted from advertising "sweet life" they need a different goal, i.e. ideology (which is prohibited by the Constitution).
      It is necessary to change the Constitution. And the easiest way is to introduce the Constitution of 1936 and the Stalin laws (only without the control of the CPSU (B)).
      Despite the attractiveness of NEPmanov and the bureaucratic share, young people rushed to construction sites in the late 20s. Because was an IDEA AND AIM
  21. Consul-t
    Consul-t 22 November 2013 08: 37 New
    +1
    Here we are all arguing, youth, youth ...
    But look around, at the families ... What do dad and mom always say at home?
    "there is no money, this is not, that is not, there are bureaucrats and embezzlers around ... they have all the money ..."
    And what will the child think, hearing such speeches every day? What will he want to become? of course an official ...
    So we have what we ourselves are growing.
    The only good news is that there are normal youth too!
    There are thinking and thinking guys and girls.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 22 November 2013 09: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Consul-t
      What do dad and mom constantly talk about at home? "There is no money, this is not, that is not, there are bureaucrats and embezzlers around ... they have all the money ..."

      Well, in fact, they say the truth, you can’t argue.
  22. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 22 November 2013 08: 47 New
    +2
    But where are the ambitious ideas and ambitious plans?

    Where is it from the state? Where is the call: people, you are needed here, they are waiting for you, is there a place for your hands and mind? Enthusiasm needs leadership, on the part of the state, above all.
  23. rereture
    rereture 22 November 2013 08: 53 New
    +2
    It is easier for the state to bring migrants in than to ensure a decent salary and life for its citizens.
  24. mak210
    mak210 22 November 2013 09: 00 New
    17
    Quote: borisjdin1957
    There are many reasons for youth infatility.

    The author complains about the reluctance of youth to move forward and develop the state.


    I did not understand either you or the author. Do you actually live in Russia? Or in the Bahamas? A worker at our enterprises receives about 7-15 thousand rubles. (these are real salaries, I ride around the country a lot at work and communicate with young people) and for this money they squeeze blood and sweat from him, to the toilet for hours. Engineer with higher education 10-20, art. teacher (without a degree) - 15, with a degree 19. All leading positions are occupied by acquaintances and relatives of the owners, so there are no career prospects, even if you are all over the place. With this money, you can support a family, buy an apartment, give birth to children? A security guard with no education for 20, so-called. "office" plankton over 50, and the work will be cleaner. Actors who receive 50 thousand greens for a shooting day, singers and TV presenters ... The salaries in the civil service are: "Although small, but good," and the pension is not bad. What kind of "creation"?

    The author does not know that we have had a grave crisis for ten years, both in industry and in agriculture. Or do you think that our children are complete imbeciles, they will abandon everything and go to "create" non-working factories, such as labor enthusiasm to the delight of the owners, often foreign?

    As long as we have everything, everything will be so. Do not run into children, they are not guilty and not worse (if not better) us. And the example with an art critic is generally unsuccessful: if he finds a job, then a maximum of 5 thousand, the rest should be collected in garbage bins. But about the same thing happened under the USSR. What did she think when she received her education?

    I have a good friend, very talented and knowledgeable Ch. the engineer, when he received an offer from Austria for a similar enterprise, asked me for advice. My wife and I at the same time: "Wali!" By the way, after his departure, the company lost its license.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 22 November 2013 09: 55 New
      +5
      Quote: mak210
      "Vali!"

      You know, it’s funny, but this phrase perfectly describes the only initiative that the authorities and the system they built are pushing us to. Fell over the hill! Alas...
  25. Stiletto
    Stiletto 22 November 2013 09: 35 New
    +5
    Far from big cities
    Where there are no expensive boutiques,
    Other people live there,
    About which they do not sing at all ...
  26. Keeper
    Keeper 22 November 2013 09: 39 New
    +1
    It’s just that for Russia in a few years they poured too much extra information, as a result of which the majority of seemingly sane people stopped differentiating this information - it’s a mess in my head ... And what about the youth ?! When the older generation does not know whom to believe, when pension funds become multi-storey glass, and pensioners live half-starving, when everything becomes accessible and there is nothing forbidden - who lives under such conditions ?! Degraders ?! Before settling down to societies, it is necessary that several generations live under such conditions ...
    Therefore, today's youth is lost. Although, is she lost only because she seeks to be in time ?! After all, young people do not realize that fashion trends and transience are just a figment of the imagination ...
  27. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 22 November 2013 09: 45 New
    +4
    A dream, a goal, a country were taken away from today's youth in childhood. We did not realize, but saw how the world of our fathers and grandfathers collapses. Did you forget who stole the most money from us? Wake up, youth do not need the state to help, it is necessary that it does not interfere!
    But when you "bring down", in my opinion, you are betraying not the state, but the Motherland.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 22 November 2013 09: 57 New
      +1
      "Today, the Motherland is where the ass is warm!" (C) is still a relevant phrase. Although personally I do not support her.
  28. avg
    avg 22 November 2013 09: 56 New
    +5
    Russia stalls because during the Chubais privatization all means of production were stolen by an unscrupulous and arrogant part of society. This foam that emerged then is still afraid that the stolen will be taken away from her, and therefore, instead of developing the country, it drags and hides the stolen over the hill. Officials serving them also joined them. These are the guys who "call the tune". And until we change the record, we will ask ourselves these clever questions. recourse
  29. sashka
    sashka 22 November 2013 10: 09 New
    +2
    The market is filled (filled). Production destroyed. It seems that everything is there. But how to buy it? It is necessary to intermeddle on credit. The scheme is simple to surprise. The only income that can really be obtained. The interest on the loan exceeds the inflation rate. Everything .. Arrived. What for production? You can do nothing without doing just stupidly cut loot (the word is certainly not pleasant)
  30. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 22 November 2013 10: 34 New
    +1
    Quote: "Fashion for the lack of ambition and any manifestation of initiative? Disgusting fashion imposed by overseas propaganda?"
    The Soviet educational system propagandized (through the Komsomol, pioneer organizations) diligence, determination, respect for people, etc. After the collapse of the USSR, and the revival of wild capitalism in Russia, one of the main points of the West: consume and be happy gradually took possession of the minds of the younger generation. Just do not blame the West. Our society has sharply reduced its role in raising the young generation of the country.
  31. shitovmg
    shitovmg 22 November 2013 10: 41 New
    +4
    What is the enthusiasm? I sit in the area, get 7 thousand, I am registered as a master, do the work of an engineer who sits in the region, gets 30 thousand and bends my fingers, that we work badly and we need to cut salaries like that. Businesses are standing, there’s no place to go, dismissing easily!
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 22 November 2013 11: 08 New
      +1
      Michael, is there really no chance to change jobs or place of residence? I am, to some extent, your fellow countryman, I have parents from the Kirov region who are from Sanchursky district. I understand the field of depressive work is not good enough, but you need to look for options. I have a small confectionery production in the countryside. The Bryansk region is neither Moscow nor Tyumen, but I try to pay my employees whenever possible. 7 thousand I pay the cleaning lady, who cleans the workshop after changing about 1,5-2 hours a day, she works for me.
      Search and find and in your area you will surely find acceptable jobs, or maybe you should try to work for yourself?
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  33. FormerMariman
    FormerMariman 22 November 2013 10: 47 New
    0
    Minus article, the author wrote to write In Europe, even worse (already silent about the east)! You might think there are countries on the planet where everyone chooses what to do! And besides the younger generation, no one will decide for themselves what their country will be and where and how their children will live! It's time to put on the shelf comparisons with the USSR and build your own Russia. Well, we are our Kazakhstan!
  34. Metlik
    Metlik 22 November 2013 10: 53 New
    +4
    Does Russia need a professional?
    The state doesn’t; the government does not like those who are smarter than it.
    Business - no, while the main business is theft.
    In the education system - no, why prepare professionals if they are not in demand by society?
  35. Jarilo
    Jarilo 22 November 2013 10: 56 New
    +4
    The reason is the same for which the prerequisites for stagnation in the Soviet Union were created, but then it concerned only the top, and now it has spread everywhere. This is when someone's relatives, good friends, etc. work at a particular enterprise. No fresh ideas, it's even persecuted, like an upstart, you can't be smarter than your boss. In general, such a microclimate. This is when you are appreciated not by your merit, but by the fact that you are someone's relative, and if you happen to be a stranger, in slang - "passenger", then the best option for him is to become either helpful or irreplaceable.
  36. frame5
    frame5 22 November 2013 11: 12 New
    +4
    The author is just a charm.
    It is immediately obvious that a person is busy with heavy thoughts on the topic of arranging Russia. And the guilty, most importantly, found immediately. Harmful youth.
    He, as a pathological patriot, can immediately see who is out of place and why the plants are standing. But that's nothing.
    Disgusting in their shortsightedness and selfishness reasoning!

    The author finally decides to show us his inadequacy. Presumably, the decision of this short-sighted and selfish girl not to try to restore art criticism in Russia alone was regarded as a betrayal.
    Of course, it’s easier to come to everything ready, but it’s much more interesting to create something of your own, something new! Yes, these are difficulties, yes, it will take more time and take more nerves ...

    Yes. It was written by an adult, apparently, a man.
  37. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 22 November 2013 11: 25 New
    +7
    For me personally, the country and the state are absolutely separate from each other, the country is Russia with its history, the state is a "Race" with corrupt officials, pseudo-democracy and thieving power that is incapable of anything except nervous twitching, and everyone knows that this very the authorities "by a misunderstanding that came to the Country after 91, it is time" to the lantern, "and people know this, and the" authorities "themselves know this and that is why they begin to twitch even harder, giving out more and more crazy projects and laws" up the mountain " how cancer can only eat healthy cells and produce metastases. Do not ask "what the state can do for me", now it can no longer do anything for me, although I was lucky and I managed to get an education on "Soviet inertia" it will become problematic, also with health care, you can’t even imagine what kind of medicine there is, this power cannot protect me either, it can’t do anything for Putin and his gang there are only vigorous appearances on TV, they’re nothing else they cannot do it.
  38. washi
    washi 22 November 2013 11: 49 New
    +3
    Long live the Constitution and the Criminal Code of 1936
    Long live the Soviet government.
    Down with the accomplices of capitalism - Trotskyites and Bukharinites.
  39. 1304
    1304 22 November 2013 11: 50 New
    +3
    I read all the comments I agree with many, but there will be no progress so far in the industry not as professionals, but as effective managers. They just signed up, they told me they slipped it is not my fault. Signed answer is guilty, it’s not guilty it shouldn't matter.
    Well, you understand my point.
  40. 1304
    1304 22 November 2013 11: 50 New
    0
    I read all the comments I agree with many, but there will be no progress so far in the industry not as professionals, but as effective managers. They just signed up, they told me they slipped it is not my fault. Signed answer is guilty, it’s not guilty it shouldn't matter.
    Well, you understand my point.
  41. sashka
    sashka 22 November 2013 12: 30 New
    +2
    You can shut up and get drunk. For "power" you are not a cut off appendix .. Like nobody .. You are just "nobody" or From whom you irrigate Do you want mercy?
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  43. Ivan Pomidorov
    Ivan Pomidorov 22 November 2013 13: 26 New
    -3
    she complained that she would not become an art historian in Russia (a dream since childhood), because it is not developed in our country, that, they say, we must leave ...


    Yes, and let it fell.
    Who can do something, do everywhere, inadequate whiners let them go to the geyropu, they are needed there!

    Shl. But where did the "author" get that Russia "slips" and what does this text have to do with the title ???
  44. july
    july 22 November 2013 14: 49 New
    +1
    And that's why it "slips". If it’s just a matter of comparisons and similarities, then we can liken the country to a huge tractor or a mechanism that receives the energy of movement from many, many gears and they all work properly, spin where they need to, but a dude sits in the cabin who in the middle of the night itch to go for beer on off-road and darkness. Something like this, do not scold the analogy for the mechanicalness, but everyone can complete the scheme himself.
  45. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 22 November 2013 15: 25 New
    0
    The country is run by a "great man." ... But the country has got something wrong. A car with flat tires .... Take a normal driver, not a great racer, but a normal driver. He fixes the wheels, and then drives quite normally. And according to you, the great racer is crawling on some sort of flat tire ... so this is not a driver, but a moron !!!! And people in my homeland are somehow wrong, they want to live like human beings, they don't want to be slaves !!!!!! ! Probably need to change them. The replacement process is in full swing !!!!!
  46. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 22 November 2013 16: 07 New
    +3
    What is it? Is that fashion? Fashion for the lack of ambitiousness and any manifestation of initiative? The disgusting fashion imposed by overseas propaganda? An attempt to destroy our country from the inside?

    Yes, this is a fashion, a tightened fashion, for I remember how this commotion began in the second half of the 70s, generated by the general sleepy well-being, predictability, progressive insanity of the Kremlin elders and, from this, a wonderful ideology, especially in its external manifestations, was brought to absurdity (which one visual agitation was worth) and completely detached from reality. I remember how sayings became fashionable: let the tractor work, it is iron; work is not a wolf, he won’t run away into the forest; let the horse think, she has a big head, etc. How parents taught the children to study well, otherwise you’ll go to vocational school and become a shameful hard worker ... Even at the school there were individuals who entered there in order not to go on an emergency and were from Suvorovites who went to Suvorov to guarantee access to a military university and then, in the third year, it is powerful to mow down and be expelled with an academic certificate, with the transition to the second year of the university’s specialized faculty ... And of course, unprecedented inoculation by Western opponents flooded into this soil. That is why they didn’t cry especially in the Union, at first ... That is why there was no active and massive defense of the Union ...
  47. alone
    alone 22 November 2013 20: 46 New
    +2
    The author asks a specific question: “Why is Russia stalling?” The author, if everyone is not too lazy to steal, moreover, the one who steals more, walks in high esteem, and the one who stole for a bottle has been sitting for 5 years, do you think, can not skid state? embezzlement today has turned into a really profitable business. those who have the financial means do not open factories or factories, they just give bribes and become officials of all stripes. and begin to rob. And this applies not only to Russia. where there is embezzlement and impunity, there is no statehood ...