We were shouted: "Ivan - go home!"

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The “singing revolution” in Lithuania 1988-1991: how it was

We were shouted: "Ivan - go home!"In Lithuania, passions continue to seethe about the plot from the Russian TV program “Man and Law”, which opened the veil of lies surrounding the tragic events that occurred in Vilnius in January 1991. The topic of the information war, which the Kremlin propagandists allegedly have been waging against the republic for a number of years, has been largely rewritten. It is alleged that within the framework of this “war” a “false story” about the events of January 13 was shown.

A special indignation of the Lithuanian "counter-propagandists" in the TV program was reminded by the former secretary of the Central Committee of the Lithuanian Communist Party, Algimantas Naujunas, about the call "Fly the bellies of pregnant officers' wives so as not to give birth to invaders!" That sounded at rallies in Lithuania. Their main argument is that the "singing revolution" in Lithuania 1988-1991 was supposedly extremely democratic and tolerant to all people living in its territory. But this is a myth.

Myths and truths

In this regard, I will try to refresh the memory of Lithuanian opponents and remind them of the inter-ethnic situation in Lithuania after the XIUMX year in June of the Movement in support of perestroika, the so-called “Sajūdis”. Fortunately, I have enough documentary sources for this.

At the beginning of its existence, “Sajudis” proclaimed noble and lofty goals. But after Vitautas Landsbergis came to the leadership of the movement, in September 1988, with the blessing of the KGB of the Lithuanian SSR and the Bureau of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Lithuania (the well-known Lithuanian writer Vytautas Petkavičius was the leader of Süudis for the first three months) roll.

It was not by chance.

In order for the little-known and not charismatic musicologist Landsbergis to become the leader of the nation, it was necessary to create enemies. And not only external, but also internal, living near the Lithuanians.

The confrontation with these enemies was supposed to rally the Lithuanian nation around the new leader.

After all, even the ancient philosopher Plato warned that "most of the tyrants came out of demagogues who gained confidence by slandering noblemen ... These demagogues constantly support society’s readiness for war so that people would need leaders."

Accordingly, the new leadership of “Sajudis” began to “zombie” the inhabitants of the republic with false reports. The first "trial ball" was thrown by the associate of Landsbergis, the editor of the newspaper "Gimtasis kraštas" ("Native Land"), Algimantas Čekuolis. In the summer of 1988, his newspaper published the text of a leaflet calling for “killing Lithuanians”, allegedly written by Russian extremists. The reaction of the Lithuanians to such a leaflet was predictable. However, it soon became clear that the leaflet was rigged by the sajudists themselves. But Cekuolis, a formerly famous Soviet internationalist internationalist and part-time KGB officer, pretended that this did not concern him ...

12 August 1988, Cekuolis, at a meeting with CPSU Central Committee Secretary Alexander Yakovlev, stated that the day before the Russian guys had cut the Lithuanian youth only because he wore the “Sajudis” badge. Already after Yakovlev's departure, it turned out that this was another lie. The youth was wounded by his Lithuanian friends. (“Soviet Lithuania”, 13.08.89).

But the voiced information has already been replicated in the Lithuanian media, contributed to the incitement of ethnic hatred, awakened the desire to "take revenge on the Russians."

Official language

The Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Lithuanian SSR “On the Use of the State Language in the Lithuanian SSR” played a decisive role in the interethnic split in Lithuania. The international practice of introducing the state language indicates that this should take into account the structure of the population, the place of compact residence of foreign-speaking citizens, the availability of material, scientific and methodological basis. The real timing of the transition to the state language is extremely important in this process.

However, the leadership of Sayudis tried to make the Lithuanian language its tool in the split of the Lithuanians and foreigners of the republic. In many respects this was due to the fact that Landsbergis, trying to present himself as a “strong personality,” everywhere demonstrated categorical and uncompromising attitude towards the protection of Lithuanian.

In January 1989, he and his deputy. V. Chepaytis sent a letter to the Presidium of the Armed Forces of the Lithuanian SSR. In it, referring to the social and political authority of “Sajudis”, and, allegedly defending the Lithuanian language, they ultimately demanded - “In the Decree on the state language there should not be special exceptions in favor of another language” (See the Sajudis newspaper Revival No.1, 06.01.1989).

As a result, on January 25, 1989 was adopted a Decree on the state language with unreasonably tight deadlines for switching to it. For Vilnius and the city of Snechkus, where the Russian-speaking population made up half or more of the population, as well as for the residents of Vilnius and Shalchininka districts, whose population on 80% consisted of Poles, these were simply unrealistic demands.

In response, the socialist movement “Vienybe - Unity - Jednos” 12 in February 1989 of the year held a hundred-thousand rally of foreign-language speakers in Vilnius. And although the protesters mostly criticized the unrealistic terms of the introduction of the state language, Lithuanian television built a plot about the rally in such a way that the impression was created - foreign speakers spoke out against the Lithuanian language as such.

The rally at the Palace of Sport was presented as a gathering of Russian-speaking extremists who do not want to know the Lithuanian language, do not respect Lithuanian culture and the Lithuanians themselves.
Since then, in Lithuania, all those who opposed the ultimatum of secession from the USSR have been called "Oneness".

For any Lithuanian, the “oneness” has come to mean - this is the enemy. So a wedge was driven in between Lithuanians, on the one hand, and Russians, Poles, Lithuanians of Belarus, on the other.

After 7 months, 13 August 1989, the chairman of the national affairs committee of the Sajudis A. Gorodeckis was forced to admit that: “The law on the use of the Lithuanian language ... doesn’t pay enough attention to the actual situation in different regions of Lithuania. For Snechkus, for example, it was possible to increase the time limit for mastering the language ... The incarnation of the law is difficult ... But the Government is not to blame for this "Sajudis".

The heirs of “Sajudis” still behave in this way in Lithuania. First, they make mistakes, and then they are guilty of everything except themselves.

Russian - "parasites"

By the autumn of 1988, the Saаюudis fully took control of the social and political situation in the republic. Already 6 of October of that year was restored the national symbols of the times of the bourgeois republic: the tricolor flag, the coat of arms of Vytis and the pillars of the Gediminas. October 9 on the Gediminas Tower was raised a new national flag.

22-23 October 1988 of the year “Sajudis” held a founding congress. The 1122 delegate and 3,5 thousands of guests arrived. Also invited was the entire party active in the republic. The congress was covered by 400 journalists, of whom 103 was represented by world news agencies and the largest foreign publications of 17.

Gorbachev conveyed to the Congress "sincere greetings and wishes." However, the atmosphere at the congress was clearly anti-Russian and anti-Soviet in nature.

The slogans of some of the speakers, “Russian - occupiers” and “Remove the occupying army from Lithuania,” were greeted by applause and chanting “Lie-tu-va!”. Moscow did not answer.

After that, the majority of the mass media in the republic took anti-Soviet and anti-Russian positions. I will give just a few examples. Even the intellectual weekly of the Lithuanian Writers' Union Literatura ir menas (Literature and Art) was engaged in replicating evil caricatures of Russians. 11 February 1989, a cartoon was published in it, which depicts two groups of "rogues" with huge spoons and a bottle of vodka, looking greedily at the map of Lithuania. One of them in Russian proclaims "Everything is common! Enough for everyone! ” The hint is clear.

Soon the next caricature appeared. A huge fellow tears to shreds the textbook of the Lithuanian language, which he was given by a little Lithuanian girl. And at the side of some "uncle" says to the girl: "Do not be angry little brother!"

22 April 1989, after the events in Tbilisi, "Literatura ir menas" publishes a new cartoon. A Soviet soldier offers a Lithuanian girl and her father a sapper shovel for planting a tree. The inscription is in Lithuanian letters, but in Russian: "I can lend a spatula ...". Etc.

As for the printed editions of “Sajudis”, they were not at all shy about expressions. 12 of May 1989 of the “Sayudis News” (No. 85), the press organ of the Sayudis Seimas Council, published the poem “Pluralism of“ Brotherhood ”Opinions.” These were 6 stanzas of an almost commonplace scolding of Russians.

In this “work”, Russians were called “roach kings” fattened on Lithuanian loaves, “parasites and pork snouts”, “stupid slaves of their second end, unscrupulous, with bloody faces and lips of lips”. The poem was meaningfully signed by the "Conscience of the People." But the leadership of Sayudis and the political leadership of the republic did not seem to notice this offensive publication.

In May 1989, the magazine Pergale (“Victory”, No. 5, 6) published a “metaphysical diary” of the main ideologue of “Sajudis” Romualdas Ozolas. He was intriguingly called "Concepts". In the diary, the author characterized Russian culture and art as “horror, horror”.

Writer Julian Semenov, who wrote about Soviet intelligence, was awarded the epithet "disgusting".

As a national trait of Russian character, Ozolas noted: “stupidity, laziness, myopia, indifference ... Russian work was worse than death ... Russian always loved living beyond their means ... Russian has always been a fan of power: his fist has always been the best argument ".

At this point, Lithuania’s television was already under the full control of Sayudis. Its representatives arbitrarily interpreted historical events and the position of Moscow, which exacerbated the political and interethnic confrontation in the republic. Opinion that contradicts Landsbergist opinion was not allowed on Lithuanian TV.

It was in this way that the nationalistic psychosis in Lithuania was brought to such a state that in July 1989 of the year, at a rally of sayudists in Kaunas, there was a call for reprisals against pregnant wives of officers. There were also several leaflets on this topic. The case received unpleasant publicity. Therefore, on the republican radio (but only in the Lithuanian language), an attempt was made to explain the “tactlessness” allowed by Kaunas sayudists.

As a result, a gangster appeal, qualified as “tactlessness,” began to sound at other meetings. These appeals to foreign speakers in Lithuania were perceived literally. Why? In 1989, there were still quite a few who remembered the massacre of Lithuanian nationalists over the families of Soviet soldiers and Jews in June 1941.

I already wrote in the "Centuries" on this topic. However, let me remind you once again that during the war the Lithuanian nationalists and part-time Nazi collaborators managed to destroy thousands of Soviet activists and prisoners of war, as well as almost the entire Jewish population of the republic.

Also recall that in Soviet Lithuania, the issue of the participation of Lithuanians in massacres of Jews was ignored. In 1957, I experienced a real shock when, for the first time marked the anniversary of the mass execution of Jews in Reshe forest near Utena, the victims of this atrocity who managed to survive called the real culprits - Lithuanian nationalists.

Prior to this, the chairman of the district executive committee, who spoke at the rally, claimed that the Nazi invaders were responsible for the execution of the Jews. This version was then generally accepted. At home, in the courtyard, the older neighbors of the children, who remembered the German occupation, told how the nationalists in columns drove the Jews to be shot in the forest of Reshe. They even showed which of the "executioners" where he lived.

In May, the Russian-speaking 1989 was shocked by the message that appeared in the newspaper "Kauno aidas". It said that a decision was made to create "detachments of the regional defense" (krašto saugos būrius). Meanwhile, many people remembered that at the beginning of 1941, at the direction of the leadership of the pro-fascist “S Сjūdis” (predecessor of the perestroika “Sаюjūdis”), called the “Front of Lithuanian activists” (Lietuvių aktyvistų frontas), underground groups of the “protection of national labor” began to be created in Lithuania (tautino darbo apsaugą).

It was they who in June 1941 began the massacre of families of Soviet officers and Jews in Lithuania.

Subsequently, on their base, the German occupation authorities organized the Lithuanian police battalions, which became famous for the cruel massacres of civilians not only in Lithuania, but in Belarus and the Pskov region.

Therefore, the message about the creation of "guard detachments" and calls for reprisals, which were heard at rallies of the Syuidists, caused an extremely painful reaction among the majority of the Russian-speaking population of the republic. In this regard, the Socialist Federation of Workers of Lithuania (SFTL) published the photo album “Lithuania in the Lens” with 46 pictures of provocative and nationalist posters that irrefutably proved the fact of inciting ethnic hatred.

The photo album was sent to Moscow. However, measures to curb the illegal activities of Sajudis were never taken. The calls “Ivan - home!”, The vile caricatures, rhymes, articles, TV and radio programs were not condemned either by the Lithuanian authorities or by the representatives of “Sajūdis”.

Show prohibited

It is necessary to tell about how Soviet journalists had to work in Lithuania if they wanted to show the real picture of what was happening in the republic. 25 August 1989 Pravda newspaper published an article by G. Ovcharenko “What is tomorrow?” It described how TASS photo correspondent Dmitry Sokolov went to his colleagues at the Lithuanian telegraph agency Elta to show the captured films. When it turned out that the photographs captured undesirable moments for sayudists, they were immediately flashed.

The article also described the difficult fate of a Russian woman met by Moscow correspondents in Gediminas Square in Vilnius. She complained that "Russians survive from Lithuania with all sorts of threats." Her garden country house and orchard were destroyed by some thugs. The woman found an option to exchange an apartment in Russia, but she was not allowed to change. They declared - “change only with Lithuanians”.

In this regard, I recall another fact. In the autumn of 1990, I ran from the Communist Party of Lithuania on the CPSU platform as a candidate for deputy of the Supreme Council of Lithuania. After one of the meetings with voters, two elderly women approached me and stretched a modest bouquet. They introduced themselves. It turned out that both daughters of Russian officers who had fled to revolution in 1918 year to Vilnius. According to them, they treated the communists all their lives negatively. But the interethnic situation in the declaring independence of Lithuania reminded them of the terrible first months of the 1941 war of the year. As a result, they reconsidered their attitude towards the Lithuanian communists who remained in the CPSU, since it was the only political force in the republic that declared its main goal to protect national, political, economic and social equality.

I remembered them all my life: “Son, you are the last hope for us that the Russians will live normally in Lithuania. Don't let us down. ” Unfortunately, the names and surnames of these Russian women remained in the records that the Lithuanian prosecutors seized from me during a search in the Vilnius apartment in December 1991 of the year.

The terrible massacres perpetrated by Lithuanian nationalists in 1941 and after the war largely determined the attitude of the foreign-speaking population of Lithuania to the proclamation of independence of the republic. Some were waiting for this independence, which promised them "the sky in diamonds", while others recalled the terrible shooting moats with the earth breathing above them ...

Let me remind you that it was during this period that bloody nationalist pogroms with numerous victims occurred in the Union in Sumgait (February 1989) and in Baku (January 1990). Foreign language Vilnius believed that in Lithuania, the case goes to the same outcome.

These fears and the forced “Lithuanianization” of the republic led to an increase in interethnic confrontation and the desire of the Russian-speaking population to leave Lithuania. By December 1990, the number of people willing to leave had reached 40 thousand.

Let me remind you of some Russian politicians who, by their behavior, actually supported the Russophobic moods of the Lithuanian authorities.

15 August 1990, the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the RSFSR, Ivan Silaev, paid an official visit to Lithuania. Despite all the attempts of representatives of Russian-speaking organizations to meet with Silaev, he never condescended to this. Representatives of SFTL managed to hand over to Silaev a “Petition for Granting Political Asylum” on behalf of ten thousand Russian families living in Lithuania, only by blocking the path of the motorcade of cars in which the Russian delegation was traveling. Today, Silaev, as you know, is positioning himself a patriot of Russia.

But not only Silaev distinguished himself in his support of Lithuanian Russophobes.

Immediately after the declaration of independence by Lithuania, 73, a Democratic deputy from the Moscow Council, sent a welcome letter to the Landsbergist Supreme Council. This caused an uproar in the Russian-speaking environment.

1260 residents of the city of Klaipeda sent a letter to the Moscow City Council, in which they offered Moscow deputies, enthusiastic supporters of Landsbergis policy, to exchange housing. In addition, a similar letter to the Moscow City Council was sent to 73 by an employee of the Vilnius factory of radio measuring devices. But already with their addresses and specific offers to exchange apartments.

Of course, there was no response from the Moscow Council to either the first or the second letter. In this regard, I appeal to readers. Take a look around, perhaps today with you are those who supported the Lithuanian nationalists in 1990, and today they pretend to be a patriot of Russia.

Polish autonomists

Today, in Lithuania, the claim is being imposed that in the 1980s the republic was marching towards independence in the “united order”. She was allegedly opposed by only a miserable handful of former partocrats who were trying to regain their lost power and the Russians, who did not want to learn the Lithuanian language.

In fact, this is a myth that was recently dispelled by one of the associates of Landsbergis, the former head of defense of the building of the Supreme Council of Lithuania, Jonas Gyachas. In January 2013 of the year he said in an interview with the correspondent of DELFI.lt: “It’s good if half a million people joined hands in Lithuania (i.e., they firmly supported independence. - V. Sh.), But about one and a half million waited for . And another half a million, if they were not categorically opposed, it is very opposed. ” (See “Seimo rūmų gynimo organizatorius: anuomet tauta no velnio nebuvo vieninga”, “DELFI.lt” 13.01.2013).

Gyachas gave a really realistic assessment of the socio-political situation that had developed by January 1991. In this regard, a few words about 240 thousands of Poles in Lithuania, most of whom did not accept the ultimatum of independence. Although, it would seem, they should have supported the exit of Lithuania from the USSR. After all, the Poles have lived on the territory of the republic for more than one hundred years and are its indigenous inhabitants.

But under Landsbergis, the Poles felt extremely uncomfortable. The practice of introducing the main provisions of the Decree "On the use of the state language in the Lithuanian SSR" in 1989 and the subsequent decisions of the Supreme Council of Lithuania reminded them of the "Lithuanianization" of the Vilnius Territory after its transfer to Lithuania in 1939.

This is what American journalist Anna Louise Strong wrote in her book “The New Path of Lithuania” on this subject:

“Having received Vilnius, the Smeton government revived Lithuanian nationalism in the city, as extreme and despotic as Polish. No one could receive civil rights, as well as the right to work, if he could not prove that he lived in Vilnius before the Poles captured him in 1920.

Bureaucracy prevailed everywhere, so many documents were required that out of 250 thousands of people living in the city, only 30 thousands were able to get civil rights. Citizenship could be bought for a bribe, for which many Jewish families did not have money. The employees of Smetona spoke with visitors only in Lithuanian, which the majority of the population of Vilnius did not speak. ” (New Lithuanian path. M .; Politizdat, 1990. P. 34).

As early as July 1989, Poles living in the Vilnius and Shalchininko districts of the republic raised the question of Polish autonomy. And the 6 of September of the same year, the session of the Shalchininki District Council of People’s Deputies declared the area a Polish national-territorial district. Subsequently, they were supported by the deputies of the Vilnius district.

In September, 1990, the Council of People’s Deputies of the Shalchininka region decided to establish the Polish Autonomous Region within Lithuania. It was a Polish protest against the ethnocratic policy of the Lithuanian authorities.

Soviet invaders

By July 1990, the dilettantism and excessive politicization of the Supreme Council, headed by Landsbergis, became apparent even to supporters of independence. Then 20 respected intellectuals of Lithuania made a “Appeal” in which they condemned the policy of the Supreme Council and proposed “electing the Revival Seimas”. ("Republic", 31.07.1990).

In response, Landsbergis and his entourage organized a real persecution against the signatories of the “Appeal”, presenting them as enemies of Lithuanian independence. This led to the fact that Sajudis was finally abandoned by intellectuals, who in October 1990 created an alternative to Sajudis - the Forum of the Future of Lithuania.

Trying to restore the lost positions, the Landsbergists took up the problem of protecting “Lithuanian” in the republic. As a result, in the fall of 1990, a campaign began to demolish Soviet monuments, and signs with Russian names suddenly disappeared from the streets of Lithuanian cities and districts and from all institutions. This again increased inter-ethnic tensions.

At the same time, the Landsbergists continued to instill in the population of the republic — Moscow was to blame for everything and the victims in their opposition to it are inevitable. False messages were regularly thrown in to reinforce these allegations. I will remind only one thing.

In September, Central Television of the USSR provided 1990 to the prosecutor of Lithuania (independent) Arturas Paulauskas for television broadcasting. He voiced the "fact of crying lawlessness" that the Soviet military allegedly committed. According to the prosecutor, in Kaunas, they broke into one of the apartments. The head of the family, separated from his wife and children, was taken to the front garden and shot!

However, when they began to understand, it turned out the following. A Lithuanian youth who had deserted from the Soviet Army, found shelter in Kaunas for a woman who kept considerable values ​​at home. Within a few days, the young man managed to identify the caches in the apartment and cleaned out his “favorite” on 10 thousand rubles. (the cost of two "Zhiguli"). The woman said to the police. After the arrest of the thief, it turned out that he was also a deserter. Accordingly, he was handed over to the Soviet military authorities.

The deserter was taken for examination to the Kaunas military hospital. On the way back he tried to run. The deserter did not stop at the warning shot. And the next one was fatal. The fact of the murder took place. But as the prosecutor of the republic presented it to the Soviet television viewers!

Attempts to achieve the refutation of this TV program on the USSR Central Television proved unhelpful. This is how Soviet television worked. At that time, many allied publications were asking for a stance. But this is a separate issue.

The plot of the "shooting in Kaunas" did its job. The attitude of many Lithuanians towards the Soviet servicemen and their family members became simply hostile. The facts of refusal to families of military personnel in kindergartens, in obtaining a “buyer's business card”, without which a number of goods in stores were not released, acquired a mass character in Lithuania.

In this regard, of interest is the official report of the USSR People’s Deputies V. Azarov and G. Kryuchkov to President M. Gorbachev from October 25 of the 1990 year. Deputies wrote. “Familiarization with the situation on the spot ... confirms that the situation in Lithuania remains difficult and explosive. There is ample evidence that the legal rights of citizens are grossly violated in Lithuania, and the lives and safety of many people are at risk.

... More than 20 of thousands of families officially announced their decision to leave Lithuania if it left the USSR, since they are afraid of becoming hostages and victims of the tyranny of the fascist dictatorship ...

Many are intimidated, experiencing a sense of doom, apathy, fear, for anyone who disagrees with the position of the Saudi leadership is persecuted and morally terrorized.

... We were told about the numerous facts of insults to officers and soldiers, who are called not only as "invaders", persecution of their families, about cases when the buses were called upon to take the children of the military as hostages.

... This is typical of a statement by the commander of one of the regiments, which was supported by all those present at the meeting in the Vilnius garrison. "Weapon in our hands, do not bring us with your criminal inaction to the need to protect yourself and our families with these weapons. ” This was discussed even more sharply at a meeting with servicemen and their family members in the Klaipeda garrison ... ”

Social psychosis

In the autumn of 1990, the situation in Lithuania was aggravated by the decision of the Allied authorities to conduct a “planned mobilization” of Lithuanian youths to the Soviet Army. For this, an additional contingent of paratroopers was sent to the republic. Landsbergists took full advantage of this to exacerbate the situation.

November 9 The Lithuanian Freedom League and Young Lithuania organizations controlled by Landsbergis held a rally near the Supreme Soviet building under the slogan "Let the land burn under the feet of the invaders!" On November 1990, Deputy Prime Minister R. Ozolas, in an interview with the newspaper Gimtasis kraštas (Native Land), stated the need for an armed struggle against the USSR.

In December, the previously mentioned provocateur A. Čekuolis published an article entitled “By force and intelligence!” (“Gimtasiskraštas”, 6 — 12 December 1990). In it, the Lithuanians were called upon to give armed resistance to the USSR.

December 15 The 1990 of the Year at the Founding Congress of the Association of Universal Human Rights requested that all those who arrived in Lithuania after the 1940 year be declared colonialists and occupiers.

As a result, the newspaper Respublika, in an editorial entitled “In view of the ruins” of January 6, 1991, described the situation in the republic as a “state of social psychosis”. Therefore, in January 1991, in Moscow, it was decided to stop provocative television and radio programs in Lithuania.

Another thing is that to solve this problem it was not necessary to send “Alpha” and Tanks. It was enough to prosecute those responsible for inciting ethnic hatred in the republic.

This allowed the USSR Law "On Strengthening Responsibility for Offenses against the National Equality of Citizens and the Forced Destruction of the Unity of the Territory of the USSR" which operated from April 2 on April 1990.

19 August events 1991 showed: in order for Landsbergists to back down, one statement from the Emergency Committee was enough. Deputies of the Lithuanian Armed Forces disappeared, and representatives of the Lithuanian security forces immediately removed their national insignia.

I was constantly called by former “comrades-in-arms” of the Lithuanian Communist Party and asked if their arrests were planned. That is, to restore constitutional order in Lithuania, the Kremlin was sufficiently realistic to demonstrate firmness.

But Gorbachev needed a failed provocation that would inflict a final blow on the Soviet Army and the KGB of the USSR, as well as on the supporters of the unity of the USSR in Lithuania. What happened in Vilnius on the night of January 13 1991.

Poisonous shoots

Unfortunately, the seeds of national enmity, sown by "Sajudis" in Lithuania, give poisonous seedlings so far. This is evidenced by the following facts. 11 March 2008, on the anniversary of the proclamation of independence of Lithuania, a column of skin-headed young men marched along the central avenue of Vilnius. They chanted the slogans “One and a half, two and a half, beautiful Lithuania without a Russian!”, “Take the stick and kill the children!”. In Lithuanian, they sounded in rhyme, like counting.

The Vilnius court acquitted the young Lithuanian neo-Nazis who were marching, failing to discern in their actions inciting ethnic hatred. Moreover, a year later the city authorities again allowed them to march along the central street of the capital.

This attitude of the authorities apparently prompted the Lithuanian rock band Dictatorship in June 2011 to voice a song called the “Shalchininka District”. The song said that “a holy war is coming”, during which “the Poles will be hanged, the slaughtered Russians will wallow under the fence, the Jews will burn in the furnace and only real Lithuanians will remain alive”.

Interesting is the reaction of the Lithuanian establishment to this song. She was regarded as a work of "humorous nature" (?!) Naturally, the group "Dictatorship" is alive and well today. In August 2013 of the year in one of the districts of Lithuania, young Lithuanian nationalists, at the songs of the same “Dictatorship”, staged at their rally a public burning of portraits of Lithuanian politicians and public figures whom they did not like. So far, only portraits.

Swede Vladislav Nikolaevich. In 1990-1991 - Second Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Lithuania, member of the Central Committee of the CPSU, chairman of the Citizens Committee of the Lithuanian SSR, deputy of the Supreme Council of Lithuania.
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  1. +34
    21 November 2013 10: 43
    I, my relatives and many of my friends, from April 27 to 2007 (demolition of a bronze soldier in Tallinn), do not get ANYTHING from what was produced in the Baltic States !!! And I do not advise you!
    And I would like to clarify, if not for the disregard and betrayal attitude of Gorbachev and his followers, to the fate of the USSR, then what would be described in this article could happen !?
    Two sayings do not apply to normal, adequate inhabitants of the Baltic states.

    I like the Balts! They say I have a disgusting taste, but I love you.
    The brain is not everything. And in the case of the Balts, he’s nothing!
    1. +16
      21 November 2013 12: 21
      Quote: makst83
      I like the Balts!


      is it you in that sense - that you just know how to cook them?

      Please - give a recipe
      1. +15
        21 November 2013 12: 49
        Quote: APES
        Please - give a recipe



        Europe has long enjoyed. Even without salt.
    2. +16
      21 November 2013 12: 27
      Quote: makst83
      I, my relatives and many of my friends, from April 27 to 2007 (demolition of a bronze soldier in Tallinn), do not get ANYTHING from what was produced in the Baltic States !!! And I do not advise you!

      And besides sprats, what else does Lithuania sell on our territory? Maybe someone knows, tell me. I will add these products to my black list.
      1. +4
        21 November 2013 14: 12
        Quote: stayer
        And besides sprats, what else does Lithuania sell on our territory?

        Cheese and many other dairy products.
        1. +7
          21 November 2013 14: 18
          For the Urals and Siberia, dairy products from Lithuania are obviously not relevant. I have never met on sale.
          Is there anything else?
          1. AVV
            +1
            21 November 2013 16: 10
            The transit of various goods to Europe, through Klaipeda, which was supposed to be the Russian port, if not in power at that time !!!
          2. +9
            21 November 2013 16: 40
            You probably don't know about the Urals: Yekaterinburg is full of Baltic products, in particular canned food (not only sprats, 7-8 items, for example, in the "Okay!" Store, about 8 types of cheese - the "Auchan" store and etc. And it is VERY NOT TASTY (apparently they have double standards) and VERY EXPENSIVE.
            1. +1
              21 November 2013 18: 55
              Indeed there is. I did not even pay attention to them. Now I’ll go around by the side.
          3. +2
            21 November 2013 19: 27
            Quote: stayer
            For the Urals and Siberia, dairy products from Lithuania are obviously not relevant. I have never met on sale. Is there anything else?

            Only medium-sized Latvian perfumes and cosmetics from the Dzintars company occasionally get to the Urals and Siberia from Pribludia, have not seen anything more for 15 years.
            There are enough dairy products in Siberia and the Urals.
            1. +3
              21 November 2013 22: 24
              It is rightly said- "Pribludiya".
          4. +2
            22 November 2013 11: 33
            And what can they still do when, after their grievous revolution, they destroyed everything that was built during the years of their stay in the Union, they destroyed, for the sake of Europeans, they say Europe will build more modern for us again, as the Union used to build for free, at the expense of the Urals and Siberia. Only here they lost their fortune, Europe did not begin to build anything, but donated loans, they say build yourself, which were stolen right there. Soon they will have to pay the bills for the loans taken. The bad thing is that the transport arteries to Kaliningrad and to port-terminals go through Lithuania, for which they are tearing a lot of currency from us. Now, if they blocked these arteries without disrupting the supply of Kaliningrad, then all this Lithuania would have bent for a long time.
            1. +1
              22 November 2013 15: 11
              Yes, there used to be a VEF plant in the Baltic states, they made GREAT radios ...
          5. +1
            22 November 2013 12: 15
            Here, only canned food.
      2. +3
        21 November 2013 16: 15
        Quote: stayer
        And besides sprats, what else does Lithuania sell on our territory?

        The main thing is not that they sell us, why are they needed in the EU? only as migrant workers, and a buffer zone on the Russian border, in a word cannon fodder. Do they really not understand this, Or the glory of Moska has overshadowed the mind.
        1. 0
          22 November 2013 11: 40
          So they got freedom from the Union and now live free, but not from the EU, which they will always have to, for the loans taken. Their descendants will also pay their own ancestors. But they don’t owe us anything, our smart rulers, such as humpbacked and EBN, have forgiven everything.
    3. +24
      21 November 2013 12: 35
      Is it only Gorbachev’s business? In the Baltic states, fascism against Russians is cultivated at the state level, and this did not begin yesterday. But you can solve everything quite quickly - an absolute ban on the import of Baltic goods into the Russian Federation (both direct and indirect, from third countries) and a complete cessation of energy supply (gas, gasoline, electricity). All. No Baltic states. One thing scares, while non-citizens will suffer. I think this stops from such measures.
      1. +6
        21 November 2013 17: 53
        No ! Stops greed of bureaucrats! It is the greed that allows you to bring millions of migrants from the Middle Ages into the country, that greed that allows you to trade everything and everything from petroleum products to the sale of citizens of your country, the heritage of ancestors and much more, everything that has a price, everything is for sale.
    4. +7
      21 November 2013 14: 10
      Quote: makst83
      I, my relatives and many of my friends, from April 27 to 2007 (demolition of a bronze soldier in Tallinn), do not get ANYTHING from what was produced in the Baltic States !!! And I do not advise you!

      drinks
      It would be very nice at the state level to press the Baltic states in all possible directions soldier
    5. SSR
      +3
      21 November 2013 22: 02
      I will say it easier.
      All kinds of dolbodTly say that the Russians were expelled in Central Asia and these woodpeckers are silent about Moldova, the Caucasus, the Baltic states and others. In general, everyone needs a ram’s horn.
    6. -2
      22 November 2013 13: 51
      Quote: makst83
      I, my relatives and many of my friends, from April 27 to 2007 (demolition of a bronze soldier in Tallinn), do not get ANYTHING from what was produced in the Baltic States !!! And I do not advise you!

      And in Russia the monuments are "transferred" and the fallen soldiers are reburied from the city center further to the cemetery (the last case was July-September 2013, Zlynka, Bryansk region). So don't buy anything Russian now?
  2. +9
    21 November 2013 12: 16
    Their main argument is that the “singing revolution” in Lithuania of the 1988-1991 years was supposedly extremely democratic and tolerant of all the people living on its territory.

    everything that is against Russia (USSR) and Russians is democratic and philanthropic. and zapadentsy with foam at the mouth it will defend. The peaceful military here already spoke about the Finn, in my opinion, the clearest example
    1. -5
      21 November 2013 22: 26
      If the Russians are so oppressed in Lithuania so much, then why aren’t they leaving? Russians are buying houses on the coast of the Baltic Sea !!! Nobody takes anything from them.
      The author, that you do not write about all kinds of Churkistan, where the Russians are really oppressed, apartments are taken, they are driven out into the street. At the same time, Putin constantly licks with their leaders.
      There is nothing wrong with nationalism. Nationalism is not fascism. What is wrong with the requirement to learn the Lithuanian language. You are not annoyed when visitors from Asia in Russian cities mutter in their own language, distort Russian words ...
      I understand that if you are "talerast" and love the nationalists, then the Lithuanian nationalists are your enemies. But if you are a Russian nationalist, then you must learn to respect the national feelings of other peoples, which they express on their territory.
      1. +1
        21 November 2013 22: 35
        "The author, that you do not write about all sorts of Churkistans, where Russians are really oppressed, apartments are taken away, and driven out into the street"
        You are delusional. It is one thing to "nationalize" the characters who have just arrived, slaughtering rams in your streets, harassing your women. Another thing is to spread rot representatives of the nation, which for 70 years gave development to your country. Did Tajiks develop the USSR? Let's talk about Russians in the Baltics? Does age allow you to compare the level (at least consumer) of life in the Baltic republics and in the RSFSR? No one on this resource can accuse me of intolerance and incorrectness. But let me suggest - can you shut up?
        P.S. In the other former republics of the Soviet Socialist Republic, the facts of oppression of the Russians were at the initial stage and now they have practically disappeared.
        1. -6
          21 November 2013 22: 57
          Quote: Veteran's grandson
          P.S. In the other former republics of the Soviet Socialist Republic, the facts of oppression of the Russians were at the initial stage and now they have practically disappeared.

          Tajikistan - there were 7% Russians became 1%
          Turkmenistan - there were 10% of Russians, it became 3%
          Uzbekistan - there were 8% Russians became 5%
          Lithuania - there were 9% Russians became 6%
          Latvia - there were 33% of Russians became 29%
          Moreover, many Russians from the Baltic states did not leave for Russia, but for Europe.

          In Riga, the mayor is Russian. Imagine that under pressure from the Tajik government, all Tajiks will be given voting rights and a Tajik mayor will be elected.
          1. +2
            21 November 2013 23: 11
            "In Riga, the mayor is Russian"
            Did the Russians receive citizenship? Has Russian become the official language? What are you talking about? As everyone was tied to Russia, they remained! Only g ... m watered us. And about the reduction of the Russian population in the former Republics .... So many have already regretted it ... My mother, a primary school teacher with 35 years of experience, spoke about her colleagues, they call me Uzbekistan, there are no good teachers in the Russian language, but oh how are you!
        2. 0
          22 November 2013 08: 30
          Quote: Veteran's grandson
          Another thing is to spread rot on the representatives of the nation, which has been developing your country for 70 years.


          Probably, many people remember the earthquake of 1966, after which the whole country was rebuilding Tashkent. Even the names of the cities remained on many houses. However, even then there was a conflict. A distraught crowd of countless Uzbeks went to a rally at the central stadium "Pakhtakor" demanding that Russian builders get out of Uzbekistan. The reason for their indignation was the fact that the builders will be able to stay in Tashkent and receive 20% of housing. It was in 1968.

          What privileges the Uzbeks did not have compared to the Russians, you will not list in all. In 99% of cases, an Uzbek was appointed the head, and a Russian was appointed deputy: this is so that the work does not get up. In 99% of conflicts, we Russians were told that we should understand the national feelings of the Uzbeks, put up with distortions in their customs, which in one way or another violated our rights

          http://conrad2001.narod.ru/russian/library/books/chilanzar/chilanzar_2.htm
      2. Fedya
        +4
        21 November 2013 23: 08
        There is such a Mindaugas Murza, 10 years ago he was a terrible nationalist! And then he took and got married in Russian, and somehow stopped being a nationalist. and about learning a lit language, it’s not difficult, but remember one thing: for Lababs, there are only Lababs and s! And everything and everything that relates to Russia is already deliberately derogatory. And Russians are buying real estate for a residence permit in order to have a visa-free border crossing with the EU! And nobody is in a hurry to open firms and production! There are no fools.
        1. +1
          21 November 2013 23: 16
          + + + + +
          Exceptional benefits in obtaining Schengen!
        2. -8
          22 November 2013 08: 52
          Quote: Fedya
          but remember one thing: for Labas, there are only Labas and s!

          There are problems, no one argues, but it is not productive to solve them from the position of "Sayudis - fascists". They are patriots of their country. It is possible and necessary to cooperate with nationalists.
          1. +3
            22 November 2013 11: 47
            With the Nazis! - Never. They only need to be destroyed, as in World War II!
          2. Fedya
            +2
            23 November 2013 22: 51
            For example, the Danes terry nationalists! But they won’t tell you this in the eye, and the labasses will not just say that, but they will also yell at the whole world! They also collaborated with Hitler at one time, it ended badly for Hitler!
      3. +1
        22 November 2013 11: 44
        Listen, dear, do not invent fairy tales, but present the facts.
  3. +13
    21 November 2013 12: 19
    In a word, the descendants of the forest brothers - it is a pity that the NKVD and the KGB are too humane for these Natsiks.
  4. moskal68
    +17
    21 November 2013 12: 19
    I do not buy Baltic sprats. I buy Ryazan. I can’t imagine where these sprats are found in Ryazan, but I’m buying it. Let Labus sell their sprats to the European Union. I read, however, that their fleet had gone completely fishing. Well, yes, for what they fought, they ran into it, as they say.
    1. +14
      21 November 2013 15: 37
      I do not buy Baltic sprats for a long time. I stopped buying at all because of patriotic feelings. When in Russia there was no information about the behavior of the Balts, they themselves became obsolete. In the cans from under the sprat there was a stinking fish dirf, some kind of mishmash from the garbage of rotten fish. This is their type: Eat Russian Vanya.
      By the way, friends share information that even now the quality of these sprats is lower than average and compared to the Soviet period, full d.r.r.m.s. So the Balts cannot even do sprats without the leadership of Russian Vania.
      1. +5
        21 November 2013 16: 42
        And there is. And not only sprats, cheese, other canned fish sucks at frantic prices.
      2. Fedya
        +2
        21 November 2013 23: 16
        So the fish in the Baltic are not a lot!
  5. +10
    21 November 2013 12: 24
    Asgard colleague, confirm that Baltic sprats sucks in comparison with Karelian ryepus good
    1. +7
      21 November 2013 16: 44
      I don’t know what Karelian ryabus is, but PROBALTIC sprats are tasteless porridge, that's for sure!
    2. +2
      21 November 2013 16: 51
      Quote: Stiletto
      Karelian Rappus good

      you probably rIpus mean?))))
      The breed is whitefish, usually no more than 250-300 grams of small fish, very tasty and tender meat .... but bony
      1. +5
        21 November 2013 17: 19
        Quote: dm98
        you probably mean RIPUSA?)))) The breed is whitefish, usually no more than 250-300 grams of fish, very tasty and tender meat .... but bony


        Rapus, ripus, vendace - yes, it's all the same small fish. She has a very delicious tender pinkish caviar, and the fish itself smoked in oil - mmm !!!! Unification. I was fishing in Karelia, I brought it from there, I still don’t have any relatives - take it really! drinks
        1. +4
          21 November 2013 17: 48
          Quote: Stiletto

          Rapus, ripus, vendace - yes, it's all the same small fish. drinks

          hmmmm .... on wikipedia it actually says the same thing, wikipedia surprised)))
          Believe me, as a person born in Karelia, these are different fish))).
          drinks


          Kstiti in ripus caviar is very similar to whitefish caviar, in vendace, as you said, it is slightly pinkish and much smaller than whitefish!

          And so yes ..... smoked in oil ..... send the same sprats, but it tastes much better
          1. +1
            21 November 2013 17: 51
            I believe hi I didn’t ask her for a passport laughing
            1. +1
              21 November 2013 18: 00
              Ehhhh, the vendors wanted)))
    3. Mature naturalist
      +1
      21 November 2013 23: 47
      I recommend Salekhard canned fish. Muksun in tomato is amazing, and the rest - vendace, cheese, ide, pike and much more - such that you can eat with a jar.
      But ... dear ones.
  6. +7
    21 November 2013 12: 30
    There are countries that have something to profit from for the European Union. And there are those who, because of their own poverty, would like to join the richer, in order to somehow improve their economy not so much as to enable people to earn money, like Uzbeks and Tajiks, migrant workers working in other countries.
    Of course, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the situation in Lithuania is the same as in Uzbekistan. True, they don’t really want to go to Russia, but they simply stick to the EU ...
    1. Peaceful military
      +11
      21 November 2013 14: 07
      Quote: Keeper
      There are countries that have something to profit from for the European Union. And there are those who, because of their own poverty, would like to join the richer, in order to somehow improve their economy not so much as to enable people to earn money, like Uzbeks and Tajiks, migrant workers working in other countries.
      Of course, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that the situation in Lithuania is the same as in Uzbekistan. True, they don’t really want to go to Russia, but they simply stick to the EU ...

      The Baltic states do not stick, it cannot have independent decisions by definition. She, as in the past, was appointed a sanitary cordon from Russia and a springboard for the threat (aggression) of Russia. To this end, the Baltic States were included in NATO and the EU with incredible speed and against the opinions of countries such as Finland.
      1. +2
        21 November 2013 16: 24
        Quote: Peaceful military
        The Baltic states do not stick, it cannot have independent decisions by definition.

        I recall how they said about independent Mongolia, Now the palm is in independence, the Baltic republics and others, from the former socialist camp, were taken away from Mongolia.
        1. Peaceful military
          +1
          22 November 2013 00: 06
          Quote: Sirocco
          Quote: Peaceful military
          The Baltic states do not stick, it cannot have independent decisions by definition.

          I recall how they said about independent Mongolia, Now the palm is in independence, the Baltic republics and others, from the former socialist camp, were taken away from Mongolia.

          They also spoke about Bulgaria, as about the unspoken 16th Union Republic, and what do we have?
          And the Mongols behaved and behave really independently and not stupidly and modestly, but here, even if, by a miracle it happened that they thought about the plebs, these “partners” would have strangled them in a moment.
  7. +8
    21 November 2013 12: 31
    So that the Balts do not do everything, gradually returns to normal, and I hope I will still see how they will ask to go back to Russia. And I also ignore goods produced in these stub countries.
  8. +10
    21 November 2013 12: 31
    I, too, do not purchase any products and goods from the Tribaltics. Well, unless it is written, or I eat sprats as a guest. And then I spit it out. It’s not tasty, and you never know what garbage it was. Spit poison, where do I know if they added it to those sprats?
  9. +16
    21 November 2013 12: 32
    The opening ceremony of the KHL regular championship match in Riga “Dynamo” - “Ugra” was unforgettable for many fans.

    At one point, the "dancing" flags of Latvia formed a pattern on the ice, in which many of those present recognized the fascist swastika.

    The incident took place on November 17 at the arena where Riga "Dynamo" plays. Local mass media report that the organizers of the show put on a performance to celebrate the 95th anniversary of the Republic of Latvia.

    As the local newspaper Focus points out, for example, the swastika was deployed by members of the National Armed Forces dance groups "Bramaņi" and "Dižbramaņi".

    The dance was staged by the famous local choreographer Taiga Ludborzha, and the production was based on the work of Yuris Kulakov "The Four Elements".

    Note that representatives of the Latvian club "Dynamo" (Riga), as well as the KHL have not given any comments yet. The meeting ended with the victory of the Riga club with a score of 4: 3 in overtime.

    I believe that ..... complete .... Where is the KHL, the Foreign Ministry, the OSCE, the UN, a bunch of Jewish organizations, etc. ????
    1. +7
      21 November 2013 12: 40
      [quote = fzr1000] The opening ceremony of the KHL regular championship match in Riga “Dynamo” - “Ugra” was unforgettable for many fans.

      just on one of the hockey resources he was clutching with nearby geeks who proved to me that this was an ancient symbol of the sun (which he already ceased to be IMHO) since the Nazis appropriated it to themselves!
      1. Encoder
        +5
        21 November 2013 15: 51
        Not everything is so simple ... Some have appropriated the blue color too, so now you can’t look at the sky either. Or here's the rainbow too. For some reason, these s..i choose the most beautiful and the best and shit.
      2. moskal68
        +1
        21 November 2013 17: 44
        [quote = avant-garde] [quote = fzr1000] The opening ceremony of the KHL regular championship match in Riga "Dynamo" - "Ugra" was unforgettable for many fans.

        just on one of the hockey resources I snagged with dimwitted geeks who proved to me that this is an ancient symbol of the sun (which it has ceased to be IMHO) since the Nazis appropriated it for themselves! [/ quote] Well, actually. the swastika will be older than the Third Reich. So the geeks are right.
        1. +2
          21 November 2013 18: 43
          Yeah, now try hooking a swastika down the street. Who will you explain to then whose symbol is it? Sickle and hammer, by the way, are also ancient symbols. However, in Poland they are banned as communist.
          1. Fedya
            +1
            21 November 2013 23: 21
            In lyatuva too! About 3 months ago, the Porsche from Belarus with a hammer and sickle on the hood was wrapped back.
    2. +4
      21 November 2013 16: 09
      And our guarantor with the entire foreign ministry company is driving teas because it is tolerant! It is necessary to spread the Soviet Army wherever Dynamo Riga performs! Or dynamite these meetings: let them play without spectators!
    3. Fedya
      0
      21 November 2013 23: 18
      If it were in Russia ..............! Well, you understand me.
    4. 0
      22 November 2013 02: 32
      And where are the normal people? This is Ales bunker.
      And given the fact that people should essentially be hapiens ...
      It remains only to dream.
  10. +15
    21 November 2013 12: 34
    Russian - "parasites"

    Yeah, Russia, it turns out to be a huge parasite on the body of Lithuania. Byad! How to live on?
    1. +16
      21 November 2013 12: 54
      Quote: GEORGE
      How to live on?


      There are tons of ways ...
      1. +5
        21 November 2013 13: 09
        Quote: Cherdak
        Quote: GEORGE
        How to live on?


        There are tons of ways ...

        Yes, like Semenovich:
        - A click counter and a click,
        let it anyway
        at the end of the road you have to pay.
      2. +1
        22 November 2013 12: 17
        Haha laughing neighing from the heart. I’ll send Kortinka to my friends bully
    2. zhihaar
      +4
      21 November 2013 15: 51
      let them say thanks for teaching their toilets to build, otherwise they would still s.
  11. series
    +5
    21 November 2013 12: 53
    Quote: 68
    I do not buy Baltic sprats. I buy Ryazan. I can’t imagine where these sprats are found in Ryazan, but I’m buying it.

    you know ... and my body with Baltic sprats does this!! for their terry nationalism, which is even disgusting to sniff ... negative
  12. +5
    21 November 2013 12: 53
    Litovtsev infuriated the Soviet Union. They were infuriated by the attitude of the British, “Packaging of cheap labor from Lithuania”. (http://www.kurier.lt/English-packing-cheap-worker/)
    Under the USSR, there was a prosperous republic, and now, judging by what is happening in Lithuania, not so much. (http://vlasti.net/news/177075)
  13. +4
    21 November 2013 13: 14
    Time will put everything in its place. People do not want to live in union - let them live separately. Europe will not feed, we must work!
  14. Alexandr0id
    -40
    21 November 2013 13: 15
    for all the savagery of Lithuanian nationalism, it is a consequence of the Soviet occupation. no one ever feels warm feelings after this.
    the fact that we do not consider ourselves occupiers does not in any way cancel the fact of occupation. on the other hand, there were times like this, not the USSR, so Germany, it would have been impossible for the Lithuanians to sit out in independence in any way.
    in 30 years it will pass, time and money erase bad memories.
    1. +8
      21 November 2013 13: 36
      Quote: Alexandr0id
      it is a consequence of the Soviet occupation

      If it does not bother you, show me where on the map of Lithuania?
      1. +6
        21 November 2013 13: 56
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        show where on the map of lithuania?

        In the years when this map was drawn, such a country did not exist in the Russian Empire. and that territory was simply part of Russia. Like so many others.
        1. +8
          21 November 2013 14: 18
          Quote: Hedgehog
          In the years when this map was drawn, such a country did not exist in the Russian Empire

          another question arises, when did such a country exist? !!!! feel
          1. -1
            21 November 2013 15: 43
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            and when did such a country exist?

            I am not a historian by education, but, once, a long time ago something like this existed. As I recall, there was some brawl between the Russian troops with someone, So the late Lithuanian army broke and plundered the convoy of Russian troops. Already on this fact we can imagine what they are capable of, or rather specialize!
          2. Encoder
            +1
            21 November 2013 15: 58
            Well, Lithuania was once, but everyone else is not.
            1. +2
              21 November 2013 17: 39
              Quote: Coder
              Well, Lithuania was once, but everyone else is not.

              if you are talking about the principality of Lithuania, then Belarus can be called its "daughter" rather than Lithuania
            2. 0
              21 November 2013 17: 40
              Quote: Coder
              Well, Lithuania was once, but everyone else is not.

              if you are talking about the principality of Lithuania, then Belarus can be called its "daughter" rather than Lithuania
      2. +7
        21 November 2013 14: 20
        there are very large inscriptions on this small map and they block this European country of not small sizes))))
        damn, I did not find, in short)))))
      3. Alexandr0id
        0
        22 November 2013 01: 12
      4. 0
        22 November 2013 10: 44
        Lithuania and Poland were divided between Prussia, Russia and Austria
        1. +1
          22 November 2013 13: 26
          there was no lithuania there was a Lithuanian principality
    2. POMA
      0
      21 November 2013 13: 58
      The consequence is that you are mentally or mentally underdeveloped. (Debil)
    3. Peaceful military
      +14
      21 November 2013 13: 59
      Quote: Alexandr0id
      for all the savagery of Lithuanian nationalism, it is a consequence of the Soviet occupation. no one ever feels warm feelings after this.
      the fact that we do not consider ourselves occupiers does not in any way cancel the fact of occupation. on the other hand, there were times like this, not the USSR, so Germany, it would have been impossible for the Lithuanians to sit out in independence in any way.
      in 30 years it will pass, time and money erase bad memories.

      What kind of nonsense? fool You have cerebral liberalism. What is the occupation? fool
    4. POMA
      +2
      21 November 2013 15: 20
      Alexandr0id you are a mentally or mentally underdeveloped person. (Debil) Minus female dog.
    5. Encoder
      0
      21 November 2013 15: 56
      Soon, the Chukchi will also pile on us. But there are still many nationalities in Russia.
      1. +1
        21 November 2013 16: 10
        Quote: Coder
        Soon, the Chukchi will also pile on us.

        Oh yes. They will surely pile on you. Fortunately, most of us will not live to see this! No. wassat
    6. +6
      21 November 2013 16: 46
      Quote: Alexandr0id
      for all the savagery of Lithuanian nationalism, it is a consequence of the Soviet occupation.
      in 30 years it will pass, time and money erase bad memories.
      Another sofa expert. Did you live in Lithuania? I lived there from 3 months to 15 years. Why from three months? Because. that by a strange coincidence the boys who were born in the families of Soviet servicemen in that city for some reason did not live for more than six months and my mother left to give birth to me in Russia. And with a neighbor, a baby born there lived for 4 months. This is such a struggle against the "Soviet occupation". Only then, in 1947, the MGB dealt with these "bright fighters for independence." The ends led into the forest.
    7. Fedya
      +2
      21 November 2013 23: 24
      The occupation is a consequence of hostilities! The guide there were military operations between the Union and the turmoil? Name at least one! By the way, many Lithuanian units retreated with the Red Army in 1941.
    8. +3
      22 November 2013 11: 58
      What are you talking about! The Union poured not a little money into the Baltic states, built everything there to live well, while infringing on us, the Russian people. When traveling from Lithuania on a demobilization, it was clear from the window of the train car that all Lithuanians lived in stone houses with garages and gardens, while all the streets were asphalted, and houses with a metal or stone fence. When you call in to Russia, you can immediately see the wooden rickety houses with wooden hedges. It was in the 70s - 80s.
      1. +1
        27 October 2017 09: 56
        Quote: Simon
        What are you talking about! The Union poured not a lot of money into the Baltic states ... When traveling from Lithuania to a demobilization, it was clear from the window of the train car that all Lithuanians lived in stone houses with garages and gardens, while all the streets were paved, and houses with metal or stone fence. When you call in to Russia, you can immediately see the wooden rickety houses with wooden hedges. It was in the 70s - 80s.

        Now - the opposite! the truth is not immediately, gradually ...
        And then - not everywhere! Here I am going by train too, I look out of the window: - some flaky barracks ... halabuds ... thorn ... again thorn ... Tower ... Ba! Yes this is the zone!
        "... Do you remember Anvara? Where is he now? - Anwar Melon is a little bit in prison-uh-uh ..."
  15. +1
    21 November 2013 13: 48
    Thanks for the facts! Only facts can reason people! (Unless they are only degenerates.) hi
  16. Peaceful military
    +8
    21 November 2013 13: 57
    The non-randomness, coordination and management of processes from the outside is indicated by the fact that in all three republics everything started at the same time, it happened synchronously and everything was exactly the same.
    There was only one difference. We did not allow gross provocations, as in Vilnius and there was no "Riga OMON".
  17. +11
    21 November 2013 14: 14
    Landsbergis would never have pursued a nationalist policy if he had not known in advance that he would not be punished.
    All that was needed was a directive from Moscow, so that, on the other hand, no less and even more people who believed in the central government would come out for the demonstration. And Moscow was silent ...
    THANKS to the author for reminding us, and it is USEFUL for the younger generation to know the truth about the culprits and those who encouraged it.
    PS Immediately after Lithuania declared independence, 73 Democratic deputies from the Moscow City Council sent a welcome letter to the Landsberg Supreme Council. It would be nice to publish the names of those deputies ... for general information.
    P PS Isn't it time to remember that a number of regions of the BSSR were transferred "to commemorate the entry of Lithuania into the USSR" with a population of about half a million people. And part of the so-called Suwalki ledge, which. was supposed to go to Germany, but was bought from her for Lithuania by the Soviet Union. And also Memel and Vilno ...
  18. +4
    21 November 2013 14: 16
    Economic sanctions should be introduced against these Spratlanders, let Geyrop feed them and grant all citizens non-citizens Russian citizenship.
  19. +25
    21 November 2013 14: 32
    In 1942, a Lithuanian guy shot my grandmother ... he shot him only because she didn’t look at him that way ... In Belarus. My grandfather, then the commander of the partisan detachment, and then just a Belarusian man, stabbed the goats with a pitchfork ...
    and I didn’t forget the grandfather’s stories ... And the grandmother (although what kind of grandmother she was when she died in 23 of the year), although I didn’t see, I didn’t forget ... M my son didn’t forget ... There was and will not be forgiveness to the reptiles .. .And to me all the tolerance, humanity and all that kind of crap ... I will never forgive the blood of my family ... Moles, in fact, blood ... And rightly they are afraid of me ... I am the Germans who honestly fought, not an enemy , and to the executioners was and will be a deadly reminder ...
  20. +4
    21 November 2013 15: 32
    The time will come, they will answer for everything. And not only them. Just to survive.
  21. +2
    21 November 2013 15: 37
    But did I ruin the USSR?
  22. +16
    21 November 2013 15: 39
    The Lithuanians forgot that they entered the USSR as a smaller territory than now. This is after the Second World War they added lands, Vilensky region and Memel. We must rid them of such an occupation past. These lands should be included in the Kaliningrad region.
    1. Peaceful military
      +5
      21 November 2013 16: 02
      Sergey! I apologize, giving you a plus, I don’t know how, I clicked on the minus. soldier
      1. +3
        21 November 2013 17: 21
        Quote: Peaceful military
        Sergey! I apologize, giving you a plus, I don’t know how, I clicked on the minus.


        It’s not good to offend a person, go to your profile, increase your rating hi
        1. Peaceful military
          +3
          22 November 2013 00: 01
          Quote: Stiletto
          Quote: Peaceful military
          Sergey! I apologize, giving you a plus, I don’t know how, I clicked on the minus.


          It’s not good to offend a person, go to your profile, increase your rating hi

          The first thing I did, only earlier. hi
      2. +1
        27 October 2017 09: 47
        Quote: Peaceful military
        Sergey! I apologize, giving you a plus, I don’t know how, I clicked on the minus. soldier

        Teach - how ?! I will reward the plus! (+)
        (cons on the site have long been canceled)
  23. +4
    21 November 2013 16: 45
    PROBALTIC countries ...
  24. +4
    21 November 2013 17: 14
    As a national trait of Russian character, Ozolas noted: “stupidity, laziness, myopia, indifference ... Russian work was worse than death ... Russian always loved living beyond their means ... Russian has always been a fan of power: his fist has always been the best argument ".

    I’m wondering, after studying genetic research (http://haplogroup.narod.ru/genetics_components.html) this citizen ozals will go into a long-term binge or immediately open his veins? After all, there are fewer differences between Russians and Lithuanians than between Russians and the same Bulgarians or Serbs. Gentika is not lying, it turns out the Lithuanians - the Slavs.
    1. +1
      27 October 2017 10: 00
      Quote: Max Otto
      Genetics is not lying, it turns out the Lithuanians - the Slavs.

      ... like Alexander Sergeich:
      What are you noisy about, folk-like?
      Why anathema threaten you Russia?
      What angered you? unrest in Lithuania?
      Leave: this is a dispute between the Slavs,
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  26. +7
    21 November 2013 17: 46
    Attempts to achieve the refutation of this TV program on the USSR Central Television proved unhelpful. This is how Soviet television worked. At that time, many allied publications were asking for a stance. But this is a separate issue.

    Crimes of the Soviet and Russian media against the Russian people are monstrous and require serious investigation and punishment of slanderers and defilers.
    It is time to return to the Criminal Code article 58, in the new edition, the execution for slander, propaganda and agitation against the Russian people.
  27. +4
    21 November 2013 18: 27
    At the beginning of its existence, “Sajudis” proclaimed noble and lofty goals. But after Vitautas Landsbergis came to the leadership of the movement, in September 1988, with the blessing of the KGB of the Lithuanian SSR and the Bureau of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Lithuania (the well-known Lithuanian writer Vytautas Petkavičius was the leader of Süudis for the first three months) roll.

    Here is the most important text in this article about true enemies and from when it all started
    1. +2
      21 November 2013 21: 24
      In this regard, the official report of the USSR People's Deputies V. Azarov and G. Kryuchkov to President M. Gorbachev of October 25, 1990 is of interest. Deputies wrote. “Familiarization with the situation on the spot ... confirms that the situation in Lithuania remains complex and explosive.

      They found someone to tell, he was busy with the same thing - the collapse of the USSR. Along with the Balts, I probably got a command, or maybe even voiced it to them. Everything was right, then it was decided through the party.
  28. +1
    21 November 2013 18: 33
    Small country - small prospects.
  29. n-kama
    0
    21 November 2013 19: 42
    However, the Baltic states are bombing
  30. 0
    21 November 2013 21: 33
    Death to the Baltic subhuman! Let them die like dogs!
    1. +2
      22 November 2013 01: 54
      Well, and how do you differ from them then? What kind of statements really? We (Russians, well, and many others) were also declared subhuman. Ordinary Lithuanians than you annoyed?
  31. +13
    21 November 2013 21: 42
    I read the article and didn’t want to comment at all, but then a son came up to me (18 years old) and asked that I was so busy, well, I started to explain to him that Lithuania, the Baltic states and ... Literally after a minute of my words he interrupted me, asking the question: I did not understand, do they (i.e. Lithuania) supply us with something strategic? Not. Are we economically dependent on them? Not. Can we live without Lithuania? Yes, without a bazaar. So you take a steam bath, papa, for me this Lithuania is like Papua New Guinea, I know what is next to us, but I haven’t heard about them. But Lithuania is Europe. Papa, Europe is Germany, France, Italy, and Lithuania is a miscarriage of Europe. If you hadn’t told me, I wouldn’t have remembered her at all, although I saw it on the map.
    Here is such an attitude to the Baltic states among young people, at least in my family. hi
    1. Mature naturalist
      +2
      22 November 2013 00: 22
      Quote: major071
      Here is such an attitude to the Baltic states among youth

      And I have the same, although I'm no longer a fashion ...
      I also have a similar attitude towards Poland and it seems to me that the overwhelming majority of our fellow citizens have the same attitude towards Poland - and this is one of the reasons that infuriates the Poles
  32. +2
    21 November 2013 23: 16
    There is nothing new in this cry of Yaroslavna. And the current rulers, of course, are insulting. The great Anchuria does not work. They shouted so much about independence right away proudly plunged into the EU. It is clear that the occupiers are to blame for the fact that now they have to run around Europe and look for someone to clean their shoes. Not only do you have to snoop into the Kaliningrad region for cheap gas, they also buy sprats!
  33. +3
    22 November 2013 00: 23
    Interesting statistics. Population
    Lithuania - 3 million, of which Lithuanians - 2,4 million.
    Latvia - 2 million, of which Latvians - 1,2 million.
    Estonia - well, I really wanted to get more air here - 1,3 million, of which 0,8 million Estonians.

    In total, the great pro-bombs combined - 4,4 million people.
    1. +1
      22 November 2013 15: 38
      In total, the great pro-bombs combined - 4,4 million people. - Well, a little less than two Tashkent in numbers. Cool!
      1. Fedya
        0
        23 November 2013 22: 47
        But stink from them all over the world!
        1. 0
          23 November 2013 23: 02
          "But the whole world stinks from them!"
          Mudras were ancestors, a small bug and smelly!
  34. +3
    22 November 2013 11: 24
    There is power, and there is a population, and naturally there are more levers directed at Russia in power. And for the actions of the authorities, as a rule, the people suffer. And, this suffering is not always visible from the side. For example, Ukraine, where history and family ties are much closer to Russia. And what do we hear from relatives? I will not quote, we hear every day. Is this your brother, relative, friend, mother, father, screaming at Russia? That's just the point, with ignorance and insults to our homeland, the authorities should be held accountable, on the one hand, on this side. And we are the population, we are obliged to put pressure on the government and ask only from it, and not from the people, crushed by taxes, domestic problems and job search.
    1. +1
      22 November 2013 12: 40
      Absolutely agree. I can’t plus, I didn’t fill another 10 comments.
  35. +1
    27 October 2017 09: 43
    For those who wish - I recommend that you watch and listen to the poems of the Estonian poet and publicist - Yõhuy Ebenpaalu (Mikhail Shakhnazarov).
    (It won’t work on this site: those who look and listen will understand ...)

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