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Passage yard of Eurasia

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It seems that the bases of the Taliban movement and the cells of the Afghan drug mafia have long been located in our country


The waves of migration just overwhelm Russia. In many cities in the central part of the country, the non-indigenous population in relation to the local residents has long exceeded the threshold determined by experts in 17 percent (after which, as is well known, riots and pogroms begin on interethnic grounds). And in some places even more than half of the titular nation of migrants. The question involuntarily arises: where do so many, for example, are Tajik? Let's stop only on this nationality. The population of Tajikistan, according to official data, is smaller than the population in Northern Palmyra alone. So where did they come from in Russia in such quantities today?

Let us recall the beginning of the 90-s, when the thesis on the free movement within the CIS of goods and services (of course, the labor force) was proclaimed. Since then, almost a quarter of a century has passed, and very little has been done to strengthen Russia's state borders with the former Soviet republics. In particular, the huge, thousands of kilometers long 7,5 border with Kazakhstan is practically not protected. The borders of Kazakhstan with Uzbekistan and Tajikistan are also not an insurmountable obstacle for potential violators (and do they exist in the old Soviet sense at all?). The last two states border Afghanistan. Are these frontiers protected accordingly? Are they locked up like in Soviet times, when, figuratively speaking, not a single bird dared to fly over the Amu Darya and Pyanj without the permission of the Soviet border guards?

Passage yard of EurasiaThere is every reason to believe that the Tajik-Afghan border today is a large-mesh sieve for the free movement of peculiar goods (weapon and drugs), services and the population of border areas (and the green light is on, without switching, in both directions). Recall that the nationality "Afghan" no. In Afghanistan, there are Pashtuns, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Turkmen, Hazaras, Baluchi, etc. Now we will list some of the Afghan provinces bordering with Tajikistan (and partially with Uzbekistan): Faryab, Jowzjan, Balkh, Samangan, Kunduz, Takhar, Badakhshan. Just for example: Badakhshan - almost 90 percent of the population of this province are Tajiks, Takhar - more than 20 percent, Kunduz - almost 30 percent, Samangan - 40 percent, Balkh - 40 percent.

That is, on this and the other side of the Panj there are people of the same nationality. As you know, a Tajik will never shoot a Tajik. And it would be extremely rash to assume that an insurmountable wall was erected on the Tajik bank of the Panj for state border violators. Especially since the flow of Afghan heroin through Tajikistan, on the sale of which both the local population and the authorities earn money (why hide it) on both sides of Pyanj.

And now (only as a working hypothesis) suppose whether it is worth Afghan Tadzhik's great work to acquire the necessary documents, cross the border, take the Dushanbe-Moscow train, and after a few days quietly leave the car already in the capital of Russia, at Kazan Station? Paraphrasing the classics a little bit, one can say this: with the modern development of printing in the East, it is nothing to straighten out Tajik documents on Afghan territory. If in Central Asia they are engaged in counterfeiting Russian banknotes, then the passport of a citizen of Tajikistan and a local driver’s license for modern printing equipment, which is not difficult from the point of view of protection levels, is not a problem at all. One can only assume that this equipment in the cities - the provincial centers of Afghanistan, bordering Tajikistan (Faizabad, Talukan, Kunduz, Aibak, Meymene, Mazar-i-Sharif), works in three shifts. So, how many Afghan Tajiks wander on our territory is an open question. And then try to figure it out: is it a Tajik or a Hazara? Or maybe Pashtun? For Russians, they all look the same. To distinguish between them, you need a lot of experience.

Continuing the listing and characterization of state borders to the south-east of the Russian Federation, it should be noted that there are virtually no interstate boundaries between Afghanistan and Pakistan (the so-called Durand Line). It is not in nature, and especially nobody protects it. Afghan tribes from the southern provinces of the country migrate to Pakistan for the winter (and this has always been the case). That is, until the Arabian Sea there is no state border in its usual sense. And from the Pakistani port of Karachi you can easily get to Orenburg without special obstacles by hitchhiking (to the positional areas of our strategic rocket army closest to the borders).

For example, a Russian needs a visa and fingerprints to travel to Mexico. In order to cross the border of Malaysia, a visa is not needed. But you need a passport and fingerprints are taken at the border checkpoint. Practically anyone — the Taliban, the drug courier, the mujahid, representatives of various Pashtun tribes — Momandy, Shinwari, Khugiani, Giljai, etc. — can enter thousands of kilometers through the huge 7,5-wide gate across Russia. The main thing is to straighten out some simple Tajik documents.

The most curious thing in this matter is that on the way of this river of migrants in the near future from the Russian side is not even supposed to put at least some kind of dam. And this is a direct threat to national security. It remains only to clarify, again, in the words of a classic, is it a crime or, even worse, is it a mistake?
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  1. Ihrek
    Ihrek 20 November 2013 08: 28
    16
    Migration policy requires urgent reform towards tightening.
    1. APES
      APES 20 November 2013 08: 54
      16
      Quote: Jamal
      requires urgent


      border mining
    2. zart_arn
      zart_arn 20 November 2013 09: 02
      18
      From above, the issue of general migration can be solved quite simply and quickly - which means that the tops do not want to. The lower classes are already tired of tolerating the dominance of migration, so what is developing according to the definition of the theoretician of communism? negative
      1. SolomonSS
        SolomonSS 20 November 2013 10: 54
        +4
        Under communism, worship of religion was not widespread, and strife on this basis. There were no explosions of houses, buses, drugs, but they weren’t in such numbers and they were used by most prisoners, and there weren’t so many drug addicts and alcoholics. The orientation was on the friendship of peoples. And the rise of one nation over another is a matter of current propaganda.
    3. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 20 November 2013 10: 35
      23
      I agree with the article 100%. He drew attention to this trend and was perplexed. About 10 years ago to meet a Tajik, at least a little NOT speaking Russian-nonsense. I work in the construction industry. Now we come across male characters of 35-45 years old, well, they don’t understand a word in Russian. The question is, where did they come from, if in Soviet schools, if you want, if you don’t want, you would teach an elementary minimum!
    4. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 20 November 2013 13: 32
      +3
      I absolutely agree, the visa regime, with fingerprinting, a scan of the retina. To know everyone and follow.
    5. mirag2
      mirag2 20 November 2013 15: 24
      0
      Pardon me, that is not entirely in the subject-in Spain they issued an arrest warrant for the ex-chairman of China for "human rights violations in Tibet."
      So China began to bite ...
    6. goldfinger
      goldfinger 20 November 2013 16: 47
      +2
      Quote: Jamal
      Migration policy requires urgent reform towards tightening.

      Neighbor Belarus. I still do not understand. Who are migrants for Russians? Those who often travel from one city of the Russian Federation to another - (from Grozny to Moscow), being the same Russian citizens as you are? Or citizens of other republics who entered the Russian Federation for permanent residence or permanent residence (temporary)? And if they entered legally, to relatives (husband, wife, etc.)? They are also unwanted guests, or what? You can go crazy! And, in my opinion, this mess brings many millions and millions! And they confused her on purpose. And do not unravel. Here for you, for example, a professional builder who has arrived on a legal basis, is profitable (for example, from my Belarus), who has come to 3 centers, and makes you a European-quality repair in your country house. But it is not beneficial to your authorities on the spot - police officers, passport office, housing services, doctors, sanitary services, firefighters, etc. And it’s beneficial for them to import illegally slaughtered, illiterate, unprofessional Uzbek slaves imported by Russian slave owners, slaves from whom you can tear three skins and at the same time yell about the dominance of the damned (deleted by moderator......)! So who will win in your and police confrontation on this issue? Obviously not you. And all these shaking of the air on the so-called. "migrant" question is already ridiculous. Because everything has been clear to everyone for a long time. This "suspended" problem is a safety valve for bleeding off popular discontent for Putin and his team. Crime is migrants, the police have no time to deal with you Russians! Shitty education - migrants have hammered all classes, Russians have nowhere to study! Cave medicine in the provinces - migrants have filled all hospitals, all maternity wards! Where can Russians get treatment! And so on many issues. That's the whole trick.
      1. grafrozow
        grafrozow 20 November 2013 18: 27
        +3
        Quote: goldfinger
        imported by Russian slave owners, illegally slaughtered, illiterate, unprofessional Uzbek slaves, slaves from whom you can tear three skins and at the same time yell about the dominance of the damned
        They are no longer slaves, they begin to set their own conditions, cut sheep on the street, build mosques is already a purulent acne on our body, which must be urgently removed.
        Quote: goldfinger
        Crime - migrants, police once you, Russian, engage! Bullshit education - migrants scored all classes, Russians have nowhere to learn! Cave medicine in the province - migrants filled all hospitals, all maternity wards! Where can Russians be treated! And so on many issues. That's the whole trick.
        There are more and more non-Russian schools, and teachers are shocked when they try to explain to the Churek in Russian that 2 + 2 = 4, and in the hospitals it’s black from J.O. X there is no passage, come in and see for yourself.
      2. 225chay
        225chay 20 November 2013 20: 42
        +2
        Quote: goldfinger
        And it’s advantageous for them to import illegally slaughtered, illiterate, unprofessional Uzbek slaves imported by Russian slave owners, slaves from whom three skins can be torn

        Sorry, where did you see the Russian slaveholders?
        He traveled half the country in a couple of months and didn’t meet a single one.
        And if the slave owner in Russia exploiting slaves - migrants or homeless people says that he is in Russian tone, believe it. For a long time already under the guise of Russians and with Russian surnames (for example, Markarov in the Stavropol region, Markaryan's real surname), well-known cunning elements have been operating - turn on your heads and be observant!
        In management and in the power of Russia in general, there have long been continuous "Russians" ... Chubays, Shahrais, Gaidars, Eltsins, Sverdlovs, Trotsky, Tukhachev ... are they all Russians?
        1. RPD
          RPD 21 November 2013 00: 19
          0
          dada all these goshigrishigens are actually muslim
  2. mak210
    mak210 20 November 2013 08: 29
    12
    An unexpected approach to the topic of migration. There's something about it. Plus - definitely.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 20 November 2013 09: 04
      14
      Quote: mak210
      An unexpected approach to the topic of migration. There's something about it. Plus - definitely

      The same plus. The author seems to be right. Communicated with migrants (if you can call it communication, of course), people of the age, in theory, have finished school in Soviet times, they practically do not know how to speak Russian, count only to ten, after ten there is "a lot" , have they really degraded so much in 20 years of capitalism or feudalism (I don't know what they have there). The thought of alien Tajiks and Uzbeks involuntarily creeps in, really because of the river.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 20 November 2013 17: 10
        +3
        Quote: baltika-18
        Quote: mak210
        An unexpected approach to the topic of migration. There's something about it. Plus - definitely

        The same plus. The author seems to be right. Communicated with migrants (if you can call it communication, of course), people of the age, in theory, have finished school in Soviet times, they practically do not know how to speak Russian, count only to ten, after ten there is "a lot" , have they really degraded so much in 20 years of capitalism or feudalism (I don't know what they have there). The thought of alien Tajiks and Uzbeks involuntarily creeps in, really because of the river.

        I’ll tell you the real situation in the USSR, and not the one you think. Here we Azerbaijanis from Armenia lived in the mountains, all the nearest villages were Azerbaijani, well-known Molokans and rarely Armenians in a regional center. Nobody knew Russian in the village under 18, therefore, talking that the Russian language was taught nonsense, that the funniest people in German knew a few words and even a couple of sentences.
        The study of the Russian language began in the army !! The female population did not know the Russian language until old age.
        Therefore, it is not surprising that there is from the Soviet period who does not know the Russian language, I have only 1 uncle after the army stayed in the village, so he knows only hello in Russian, while how are you and a couple of words and this person was born and grew up in the USSR .
        This is from that series, judging by the Soviet constitution, the USSR was the most democratic country in the world, but in reality ... and not in the field it was not quite like the Soviet officials reported on paper and from the TV)
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 20 November 2013 18: 01
          +2
          Quote: Yeraz
          The study of the Russian language began in the army !!


          I confirm. There were also Azerbaijanis and Uzbeks who almost did not speak Russian. And in Afghanistan, in the fourth company of the "listeners", there are almost only Tajiks ... they generally spoke Russian very badly. I don't know what they translated there ... And the Uzbeks prayed, from them I learned the Shahadah -la ilaha illa llah(it already subsequently found out what Shahada is). I remember such a Shamil was in our company, he muttered his prayer all the time. And once I ask him what your Allah helps you, do not you laugh, do you know your prayer? I know I say grandmother in childhood Our Father taught. Let's say your god and my god pray together. When two gods are better than one god. And here he reads the Shahada and I at the end
          Thine is also the kingdom, and power, and glory,
          Father and Son, and Holy Spirit
          And now, and ever, and for ever and ever.
          Amen!
          This is our common prayer.
          Now it will probably seem wild, but for us 19-year-old boys with Soviet education of Komsomol members, maybe there was an element of some kind of game or something. at least for me, but the very fact that at that time in the Union, if there were any elements of hostility on a national basis at the household level, then no religion divided us.
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 20 November 2013 18: 51
            +1
            The ascetic with religion is sometimes replayed. Shiites and Sunnis have come to blow up mosques to each other. And the Wahhabis slowly bring this infection to the Caucasus.
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 25 November 2013 02: 28
              -1
              And at the heart of this - the machinations of a cunning Jew. Which is characteristic, however
        2. RPD
          RPD 21 November 2013 00: 21
          0
          and after that you howl about oppression in the USSR ??? nat. schools, nat. television, nat. the radio was everything. jackals are you shameful
        3. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 25 November 2013 02: 25
          0
          Do you remember in "Pig and Shepherd" Zeldin / with the help of a competent aksakal / Orlova wrote a letter of love? So it was a shock for me. How so - to live in the Soviet Union and not be able to write in Russian ?! What has changed since then? Apart from the departure of the USSR, of course ...
  3. does it
    does it 20 November 2013 08: 29
    +1
    The most curious thing in this matter is that on the way of this river of migrants in the near future from the Russian side is not even supposed to put at least some kind of dam. And this is a direct threat to national security. It remains only to clarify, again, in the words of a classic, is it a crime or, even worse, is it a mistake?
    Uhhhh sad Reminds me of this:
  4. Tersky
    Tersky 20 November 2013 08: 31
    13
    It is clear to the author that the border of Russia is along the Sadov ring, and the fact that beyond it is Through the Looking Glass laughing ... As for the topic, we have pencil borders with the former "union republics", which is used in full not only by the former "brothers" but also by the former and real enemies.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 20 November 2013 13: 59
      +2
      Quote: Tersky
      As for the topic, we have pencil borders with the former "union republics"

      And not only. The theme of borders, the topic is painful.
      We (the border guards) have our own website pogranec.ru. The men went around the outposts where they had served before. They posted photos of abandoned outposts, I don’t remember exactly where, in Karelia they’re like. Who is interested in visiting the site, look.
  5. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 20 November 2013 08: 35
    15
    Central Asia uses Russia as a valve, pitting a huge number of unemployed towards us, otherwise they would have organized many color and not very revolutions in their homeland. Why do the Russian authorities agree to this and it’s clear, the lobby. A lot of people use cheap labor. One does not understand that the patience of even migrant workers from Central Asia is also not unlimited. They can arrange a rebellion in Russia, and if it is decorated in a religious shade, it can blaze quite strongly.
  6. makarov
    makarov 20 November 2013 08: 36
    11
    Described in the article is not yet "horror".
    In Ukraine, the authorities decided (and even announced) that they were ready to accept gypsies from all over Europe.
    Probably the cops are bad with indicators, "sticks" are urgently needed.
    1. Rus86
      Rus86 21 November 2013 06: 23
      0
      that's for sure quiet horror
  7. bairat
    bairat 20 November 2013 08: 38
    14
    Plusanul. We have a very strange policy regarding Central Asia. The Supreme Commander-in-Chief says we cannot do without the influx of workers from there, despite the fact that the locals do not always have enough work, the very dubious economic effect of this decision on the rise in crime and the main problem is the drug addiction of the country.
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 20 November 2013 18: 32
      +4
      Quote: bairat
      Plusanul. We have a very strange policy regarding Central Asia.
      +++++ There is no policy whatsoever, momentary benefits, and then at least a flood ...
  8. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 20 November 2013 08: 39
    +6
    from the Don.
    Fears are not unfounded! But our bonzes are on the drum! MANI beckon, you can close your eyes to the rest!
  9. erased
    erased 20 November 2013 08: 51
    16
    Well, what is this mistake? This is the stage of the plan for the destruction of Russia. And officials of various levels are included in the implementation of this plan. Moreover, the plan is financed by the budget of Russia. This is such a funny paradox. But for some reason I don’t want to laugh.
  10. ed65b
    ed65b 20 November 2013 08: 53
    +4
    Michael made a cool batch. I didn’t even see the Afghans on TV. The author does not engage in a worldwide conspiracy. The border is a sieve, but only heroin flows through it. The education level of a modern Afghan by 80% does not allow him to go anywhere except Pakistan, and that is in question. Afghans are engaged in single-family feeding, and is very different from Tajiks, yet 70 years of coexistence left a mark on their mentality. There are Afghans in Russia, but this is from the time of Najibul and a very small percentage of modern Afghanistan, Kabul.
    1. avt
      avt 20 November 2013 10: 55
      +6
      Quote: ed65b
      Michael made a cool batch. I didn’t even see the Afghans on TV. The author does not engage in a worldwide conspiracy. The border is a sieve, but only heroin flows through it.

      Yeah, that's how it flows to itself from the bag. It’s easier now, but ten years ago in Moscow in the hotel “Sevastopol” there was quite an Afghani kishlak, a kind of distributor in Moscow and villages, I’m not talking about “Chirkizon”, there they somehow dissolved in the general array of Chinese. like on Kazanskoe in the 90s, boarding - disembarking on a train in Dushanbe ... in general, a song, even if you shoot a movie from the time of the civil war, they just did not climb on the roof. and the Gardener are shaking, but so easy.
  11. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 20 November 2013 09: 35
    14
    But what for are they needed here? I didn’t call them here, whoever called and let them answer! Driving them from Russia on foot, the next ones will not climb! I am Russian, I want to live in Russia, and not in some kind of Churkestan. You come to Moscow and feel sick of the fact that it’s as if you’ve arrived in a Central Asian city. It's time to close the borders once and for all!
  12. Stiletto
    Stiletto 20 November 2013 09: 41
    +6
    "The most curious thing about this matter is that in the near future, the Russian side is not even supposed to put any dam on the path of this river of migrants. And this is already a direct threat to national security. It remains only to clarify, again using the words of a classic a crime, or worse, is it a mistake? "

    - This is greed.
  13. Selevc
    Selevc 20 November 2013 09: 46
    13
    Damn, I am surprised - yes, in Russia there is such a huge Siberia - you can cut wood, mine stone, build roads and so on !!! And you do not know where to put migrant workers !!!
    Adequate authorities would have built them into detachments for a long time - they would have given shovels, saws, brooms and other working tools and sent them to shock construction sites in the country ... :)))
    1. does it
      does it 20 November 2013 17: 42
      +1
      Quote: Selevc
      Damn, I am surprised - yes, in Russia there is such a huge Siberia - you can cut wood, mine stone, build roads and so on !!! And you do not know where to put migrant workers !!!
      Adequate authorities would have built them into detachments for a long time - they would have given shovels, saws, brooms and other working tools and sent them to shock construction sites in the country ... :)))

      Your words and our Duma in the ears ....
    2. 225chay
      225chay 20 November 2013 21: 00
      0
      Quote: Selevc
      Damn, I am surprised - yes, in Russia there is such a huge Siberia - you can cut wood, mine stone, build roads and so on !!! And you do not know where to put migrant workers !!!

      you +++ !! ))) would appoint you Minister of Development, Construction and Improvement of the Welfare of the People in Siberia and the Far East))) with giving the army of migrants, I am sure the roads and bridges would be set up and maintained in proper form ... and everything is self-sufficient and enthusiastic immigrants from Central Asia. otherwise im returning home! )))
  14. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 20 November 2013 10: 03
    +4
    The indifference of our security forces to the security of Russians and the Russian state as a whole is surprising. Migrants occupied half of Russia. In the Far East, the Chinese are hosting, creating their enclaves, who live by their own laws. When the patience is full, pogroms and conflicts appear. But the authorities again demonstrate "blind tolerance". No conclusions, no real actions to streamline migration. How long will this go on?
  15. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 20 November 2013 10: 24
    +6
    And from the Pakistani port of Karachi, without special obstacles, a hitchhiker can easily reach Orenburg (to the positional areas of our strategic missile army closest to the borders).
    It’s exactly the same name for the border .. For the last 10 years, it’s been built a little along the border of border towns (decent pretty much) They just do not guard there .. Although they would have had a couple of armored personnel carriers there for decency. And under the USSR I remember a military airfield part was serious Although before the state border of the USSR it was 1000 km. and more
  16. major071
    major071 20 November 2013 10: 58
    14
    I myself live on the border with Kazakhstan (28 km to customs), it is not difficult to leave for Kazakhstan and come to us in Russia. In general, the entire Orenburg region. from the south it borders on Kazakhstan, sometimes across a river 15 meters wide, that is, I swam to the other side to the beach to sunbathe, you are all in another state. There is no border as such, the customs almost does not work (we are in the vehicle). Next to us are two Muslim republics: Bashkortostan and Tatarstan. We have no military units except border guards. So much for the "belly" of Russia, which is not protected by anything.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 20 November 2013 14: 10
      +3
      On the other side of the border with Kazakhstan, I live 20 kilometers from customs. They blocked us with barbed wire and set up towers. Watch out. So that not a single bag of apples or heroin would dare to smuggle a bag of apples or heroine from Kyrgyzstan.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 20 November 2013 19: 22
        0
        It's one thing to guard the steppe is another mine with missiles ... Feel the difference ..!
    2. Marek Rozny
      Marek Rozny 20 November 2013 21: 38
      +4
      Quote: major071
      So much for the "belly" of Russia, which is not protected by anything.

      And what for in Orenburg to keep troops? For this, the CSTO was created so that the Kazakhs from the north were protected by the Russians, and the Russians from the south by the Kazakhs.
      As for migrants, these are the shoals of your legislation, the venality of your officials and policemen, and the bitterness of ordinary Russians who are set on migrant workers. Here, even though the Great Wall was built, nothing will change anyway.
      Transit Uzbeks, Tajiks and Kyrgyz, we do not have the right not to miss. They legally enter Kazakhstan, legally leave Kazakhstan, legally enter Russia. They work illegally, but enter legally. There are no grounds for the Kazakhs to stop them and send them back - no.
      1. major071
        major071 20 November 2013 21: 49
        +4
        Good evening to you! hi
        Kazakhs from the north were defended by Russians, and Russians from the south were defended by Kazakhs.
        From the north of Kazakhs Russia should protect from whom? From Russia ?. If you want to tell me that the Kazakh army will cover the southern borders of Russia in case of an attack, let's say a hypothetical enemy, then I don’t understand why we need borders and our own armed forces. I have nothing against the Kazakhs in relation to your army, but at first you would have covered your borders with the republics of the former USSR, a hole with a hole. soldier
        1. Marek Rozny
          Marek Rozny 20 November 2013 22: 53
          +2
          Quote: major071
          From the north of Kazakhs Russia should protect from whom?

          from western countries.
          Quote: major071
          If you want to tell me that the Kazakh army will cover the southern borders of Russia in case of an attack, let's say a hypothetical enemy,

          yes, it is - the Lower Volga, the Urals, Western Siberia are covered by the Kazakh army from potential adversaries - the Lanzhou Military District of China and the Islamists from Afghanistan / Pakistan and Central Asian states (if they are Afghanized).
          Quote: major071
          why do we need borders and our own armed forces.
          To guard against the rest of China and Western Europe + USA.

          Quote: major071
          You would first cover your borders with the republics of the former USSR, a hole with a hole.

          The border is closed. First of all - the Chinese direction, then the Uzbek and Turkmen ("fences" are really being built all over the place, you can see photos on the Internet), we will not close the Kyrgyz one tightly, although we can. Kyrgyzstan is a member of the CSTO and a candidate to join the CU, so why should we build a total border with them? We need to help them raise their army and equip their external border with third countries.
          1. marshes
            marshes 20 November 2013 23: 19
            0
            Quote: Marek Rozny
            Chinese direction

            Welcome.
            I am amused by the citizens of Russia who are trying to get to China through our border outside the checkpoint. They think that the border does not exist, they caught two this year but are fined for friendship and transferred to the embassy, ​​there’s also a time limit for such an offense.
            http://tengrinews.kz/crime/rossiyanin-zaderjan-pri-popyitke-peresecheniya-kazahs
            tansko-kitayskoy-granitsyi-229725 /
            http://newskaz.ru/incidents/20131025/5709494.html
  17. Schoolboy 2005
    Schoolboy 2005 20 November 2013 11: 31
    +1
    Why don’t you like it ??? You love your leader so much, who allowed you to be indignant ??? Tell him thank you for not being shot for disapproving the wisest policies of this second Stalin, you.

    The visa regime will only repel partners in the CIS, and not bring them closer, said Russian President Vladimir Putin, speaking about migration problems.

    "The introduction of a visa regime within the CIS will mean that we are alienating the former republics of the Soviet Union. We need not push away, but bring it closer. We need to make this process more civilized, to organize work on this track in such a way that it does not irritate the indigenous population. , but caused a positive reaction, "- said Putin, answering journalists' questions at a press conference following the APEC summit.

    The liberals forced him to say this at gunpoint, pray to God, read Starikov, think! Everyone can criticize, but He does everything he can for Russia without sparing himself, like a slave in the galleys is working for us all, and just do it, who if not He ??? What are you all funny little hamsters.
  18. Semurg
    Semurg 20 November 2013 12: 15
    0
    angry Taliban crawling with a grenade. in childhood, children used to tell each other scary stories about the "black hand" and then they themselves were afraid laughing
  19. Alexandr0id
    Alexandr0id 20 November 2013 12: 34
    +1
    In order to cross the border of Malaysia, a visa is not needed. But you need a passport and fingerprints are taken at the border checkpoint.

    was in malaysia, no one took my fingerprints from my wife
  20. krasavchik
    krasavchik 20 November 2013 12: 35
    +6
    Gentlemen, what is the actual question then? If our wisest Vladimir Vladimirovich said that we do not need any visas with Central Asia, so as not to sever our "spiritual ties", then we must applaud and admire his decision, and everyone who disagrees is by default employees of the US State Department and paid trolls ...
    The visa regime will only alienate CIS partners, not bring them closer, President Vladimir Putin said at a press conference following the APEC summit. "We need to make this process more civilized, to organize work on this track in such a way that it does not irritate the indigenous population, but causes a positive reaction," Putin said.

    The President reiterated that Russia needs an influx of workers. "Our labor market needs to fill those jobs that are not filled by local citizens, so we need to take a closer look at this labor market, more professionally solve the issue of which jobs are allowed for migrants," Putin said.

  21. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 20 November 2013 12: 41
    +2
    A good article, which is perfectly complemented by the comments given here by people for whom the fate of the country is far from indifferent, who understand the danger posed by Russia's transparent borders and carelessness in migration policy. Simple citizens of the country have to pay for all this. And the example of Syria is indicative when crowds of loafers of terrariads penetrated the country, I begin to tear it from the inside. So, we are not keenly circumventing the control over migrants, filtering and differentiating the labor resources arriving at us en masse at the borders. And of course, it is necessary to combat illegal migration and the crimes associated with it. At the same time, normal cooperation in the economic sphere between the countries of the emerging Eurasian Union should be established giving it a more civilized appearance, for example, by creating production facilities. And of course, to assist in strengthening the law enforcement system, actively cooperating with them in the fight against crime and counter-terrorism.
  22. rudolff
    rudolff 20 November 2013 13: 31
    13
    Putin is so anxious to go down in history as a collector of Russian lands that he is ready to sacrifice both his people and Russia itself. One of his greatest negative qualities is excessive stubbornness, including stupidity. All of Russia is already howling from this migration policy, and the supreme one is playing into geopolitics. This already looks like not just stupidity, but stupidity or the deliberate destruction of the state. Mexico is essentially an ally and natural partner for the United States, but this did not stop the Americans from building a huge fence on the border and introducing a severe visa regime.
  23. Candy wrapper
    Candy wrapper 20 November 2013 14: 14
    -3
    To begin with, the Taliban would regain Afghanistan, and then you can think about neighbors (although such behavior is not typical for Afghans), people from Afghanistan may be fleeing to us, but I would not talk about some kind of Taliban invasion in Russia It is unpromising for them.
  24. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 20 November 2013 14: 33
    +2
    The most curious thing in this matter is that on the way of this river of migrants in the near future from the Russian side is not even supposed to put at least some kind of dam. And this is a direct threat to national security. It remains only to clarify, again, in the words of a classic, is it a crime or, even worse, is it a mistake?

    This is the complete impotence of power and all this, together, the consequences of the destruction of the USSR. Oh, something else all this comes around ...
  25. tnship2
    tnship2 20 November 2013 15: 07
    +2
    Until business gets drunk on cheap money, this will continue without end. Look at any management company in any city. Here, if the director of this office, by law, paid for every root employee who didn’t get his eyes on his forehead and so they would have remained, everything would have worked out. Further on the list there are divelopers and other gondovnya. Then the police woke up and looked around for any street vendor who was already sick. FSE FSUE understand, they are probably waiting for patience to finally end and protests rebellions will begin again. Perhaps this is in our blood, it doesn’t hurt and okay.
  26. Troy
    Troy 20 November 2013 15: 21
    +3
    Again from empty to empty. Until they introduce a visa regime and strengthen the border, at least with Kazakhstan, nothing will change. And there is nothing to say that this will aggravate relations with the republics of Central Asia. You can correctly explain everything. Or to guard the border together, but this is problematic, because there is no faith for the Tajik border guard, he will help his brother on the other hand.
  27. goldfinger
    goldfinger 20 November 2013 15: 43
    +1
    Neighbor is Belarusian. I still don’t understand. Who are migrants for Russians? Those who often travel from one city of the Russian Federation to another - (from Grozny to Moscow), being the same citizens of Russia as you are? Or citizens of other republics who entered the Russian Federation for permanent residence or temporary residence (temporary)? And if they entered legally, to their relatives (husband, wife, etc.)? Are they unwanted guests too, or what? You can go crazy! And, in my opinion, this confusion brings millions and millions to many! And they confused her on purpose. And do not unravel. For example, for you, it is beneficial for a professional builder who arrived legally (for example, from my Belarus), who arrived at 3 m-ts, and makes you renovation in your country house. But it is not beneficial to your local authorities - policemen, passport office, housing and communal services, medics, sanitary services, firefighters, etc. And they benefit from those imported by the Russian slave owners, illegally, downtrodden, illiterate, unprofessional Uzbek slaves, slaves from whom you can tear three skins and at the same time yell about the dominance of damned lumps! So who will win in your and police confrontation on this issue? Obviously not you. And all these shaking of the air on the so-called. the "migrant" question is already ridiculous. Because everything has been clear to everyone for a long time. This "suspended" problem is a safety valve for bleeding off popular discontent for Putin and his team. Crime is migrants, the police have no time to deal with you Russians! Lousy education - migrants have hammered all classes, Russians have nowhere to study! Cave medicine in the provinces - migrants have filled all hospitals, all maternity wards! Where can Russians get treatment! And so on many issues. That's the whole trick.
  28. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 20 November 2013 17: 58
    +1
    The most curious thing in this matter is that on the way of this river of migrants in the near future from the Russian side is not even supposed to put at least some kind of dam. And this is a direct threat to national security. It remains only to clarify, again, in the words of a classic, is it a crime or, even worse, is it a mistake?

    There is no question - this is the crime of our officials.
    To enter the Russian Federation, it is high time to introduce visas and strict accounting. With modern information networks, there are no problems. Create zones and regions forbidden for migrants. Cops for violation of the rules of supervision to plant for 5 years, as for bribes.
    The Uzbektagik crossed the border, did not arrive at the declared place of work, wanted him, was blacklisted and expelled, without the right to enter. Cover up companies that invite migrants, but do not provide their employment and travel outside.
    It is not necessary to build a PSC, 7500 km of barriers and hundreds of outposts, it is enough to block all roads and patrol the border strip on the ground and from the air.
  29. Odysseus
    Odysseus 20 November 2013 18: 15
    +5
    It is curious that the "official statistics" categorically do not want to notice any problems. For example, the percentage of Russians in Moscow in comparison with 1989 according to it has increased belay (in fact, it fell catastrophically). That is, the Russian authorities are not that they are not going to solve the problem, they are pretending that it does not exist at all.
    On the whole, the authorities are deliberately pursuing a policy of genocide "not adapted" to life under capitalism of the Russian people and replacing them with more "profitable" and docile migrants.
  30. Grif
    Grif 20 November 2013 19: 29
    0
    In 2008, I happened to work on a construction site with one good Uzbek. About 50 years old uncle, and he is illiterate. For 20 years I forgot Russian letters, but I never learned Latin letters. They now have Latin there. How many of them are there, unhappy, and everyone is falling to us, for there is nowhere else. Here it is either a dust of them all, or to restore the Soviet Union. Who will suggest otherwise? I will listen with interest. Liberals, please do not worry.
  31. Nike
    Nike 20 November 2013 19: 34
    +1
    I live near the border with the Russian Federation. From Ukraine, the field is overgrown with weeds and bushes, from the Russian side there is a ditch 2 m wide 4 m deep, Bruno spirals, motion sensors. The checkpoint is fenced in two rows, outside with a net, inside from a stitch-cutting wire, the entrance to it from the Russian Federation is limited by concrete blocks .Rockroad roads are built along the border. And this is on the border with Ukraine, that's where the enemies are! and Asians are friends, but they are not offended by friends ?? (I would upload a photo to prove that I'm not lying, but no way!)
  32. uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 20 November 2013 20: 01
    0
    glory to the great poo))))))) he is right alone) fools))
  33. uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 20 November 2013 20: 09
    -1
    yes Putin shit on the people and the country. if only he didn’t lose his profit. and who would bring him him a poher, a Tajik or an Uzbek. Russia for him is only a business.
  34. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 20 November 2013 20: 26
    -1
    Quote: nike
    I live near the border with the Russian Federation. From Ukraine, the field is overgrown with weeds and bushes, from the Russian side there is a ditch 2 m wide 4 m deep, Bruno spirals, motion sensors. The checkpoint is fenced in two rows, outside with a net, inside from a stitch-cutting wire, the entrance to it from the Russian Federation is limited by concrete blocks .Rockroad roads are built along the border. And this is on the border with Ukraine, that's where the enemies are! and Asians are friends, but they are not offended by friends ?? (I would upload a photo to prove that I'm not lying, but no way!)

    And they’re doing it right ..! The main threat for us has always come from the west .. There is nothing surprising here .. bully And we usually dealt with Asians quickly .. (well, of course, the main thing is to figure out the leaders and kill them ..) But seriously, Ukraine is being prepared as a springboard and the most punctual and sick for Russia ..! Here in Romania, Poland, a missile defense system is being created now (against us, of course ..) And it is not difficult to guess who will be in Ukraine as representatives of NATO to operate .. and command "valiant Ukrainian lads .." Such things can be ... (no offense if that ..)
    1. Nike
      Nike 20 November 2013 21: 28
      +3
      No, I’m not offended, it’s only sad ... they lived nearby, they went to mushrooms to Russia, they got vodka for us, and now the thorn, security, give me the documents ... all this is bad ...
  35. alone
    alone 20 November 2013 20: 34
    +1
    the problem is that the Russian authorities, hoping to somehow hold in their hands the former republics of the USSR, open the border and let hordes of migrants into the country. I just do not understand why Russia needed some kind of alliance with the republics, which are basically in an economically deplorable state? what is the benefit? a desire to create something like the USSR? alas, even if you imagine that such a union will be, but it still will not be as strong as the USSR. Just 6-7 regions will be added to subsidized regions, the whole burden of which you will bear on your shoulders wear you, simple taxpayers of Russia.
  36. Boris63
    Boris63 20 November 2013 20: 52
    +1
    Tajiks and Uzbeks also went to Afghanistan during the Soviet era, to their relatives, and "handed over" strangers so that the "paths" would not light up. As far as I remember, the Afghan-Tajik border was guarded by the Moscow frontier detachment, it was probably removed. Of course, it is necessary to regulate the "influx" of Asians. First of all, the local police should work all the time (take less bribes), and not only when the "rooster bites" or the "leadership" orders.
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 21 November 2013 19: 26
      0
      - "Police on the ground ..." - Just recently, we went to take the object under protection, km. 50 from the regional center, well, we decided to see the local precinct policeman, get a taxi, to establish interaction ... The village is almost empty - people are in the city, working. Found mail - well, who else knows everyone? They began to ask where to find the district police officer. It turned out that he lives km. at 15 further, and his surname, well, never Slavic! So the local police are working, the question is for whom ... And this is in an area that never borders either the Caucasus or Asia ... And if you remember that the district police officer is a representative of the local authorities ... then you think about it. ..
  37. Marek Rozny
    Marek Rozny 20 November 2013 21: 31
    +1
    Oops ... And where did the author find the border of Kazakhstan with Tajikistan? Kazakhstan borders with Russia, China, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan.
  38. So_o_tozh
    So_o_tozh 21 November 2013 04: 29
    0
    Quote: makarov
    Described in the article is not yet "horror".
    In Ukraine, the authorities decided (and even announced) that they were ready to accept gypsies from all over Europe.
    Probably the cops are bad with indicators, "sticks" are urgently needed.


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