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International recognition of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk Russia: rejoice or look for "pitfalls"?

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Just the other day, an event that could well be called historical. A kind of enclave with an area of ​​more than 50 thousand square meters. km in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk recognized as part of the Russian continental shelf. Moreover, it was recognized as a special subcommittee of the United Nations, which (the subcommission) worked on this issue for several months after the submission of relevant documents by Russia. These documents, in turn, appeared after large-scale research in the Okhotsk region. It is noteworthy that members of the UN sub-commission decided on the right of the Russian Federation to the aforementioned thousands of kilometers of the shelf unanimously. The last point in this kind of work should be put after the meeting of the UN Commission in February next year (33rd session). The fact that the Russian shelf will grow by the Okhotsk part both de jure and de facto is no longer in doubt, since the opinion of the UN special sub-commission based on the work of international experts is more than authoritative at the international level.




About the new, let's say, acquisitions of Russia, the Minister of Natural Resources and Ecology of Russia Sergey Donskoy spoke out:

This is a success to which Russia has been going for many years. Thanks to the recognition of the enclave as part of the Russian continental shelf, our country receives additional reserves of valuable minerals and other natural resources. In terms of reserves, these territories in 52 thousand square meters. km - the real cave of Ali Baba, access to which opens up tremendous opportunities and prospects for the Russian economy. Let me remind you that the inclusion of an enclave in the Russian shelf establishes Russia's exclusive rights to the resources of the subsoil and the sea floor of the enclave, including fishing for sedentary species, that is, crab, shellfish, etc., and also extends Russian jurisdiction to the territory of the enclave in terms of the requirements for fishing, safety, environmental protection, etc. - that is, the Russian legislation on the continental shelf will extend to the territory of the enclave, which is now legally considered to be part of the oceans. Thus, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will be fully recognized by the international community as the inland sea of ​​Russia.


That is, together with obtaining economic rights to new areas of the shelf, Russia actually receives for internal use the whole sea - the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, which will soon become the internal seas of the Russian Federation. This means that Russia gets all the rights to the resources of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and our country will be able to actively resist the attacks of foreign poaching schooners, which are now not uncommon in these waters.

Here is a recent example of foreign poachers' interest in the “living creatures” of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk: Russian border guards in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk detained the Asari transport refrigerator, whose crew is suspected of poaching. The crew, by the way, is international. According to some reports, the shipowner is a South Korean company. The ship went under the Panamanian flag in the Northern Kuriles. The captain of the Korean (Panamanian?) Refrigerator did not react to the demands of the border patrol ship trying to divert Asari from an organized chase into neutral waters. After the Russian border guards "Asari" caught up, the on-board documentation was withdrawn, and proceedings against the crew began.

If the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is recognized as the inland sea of ​​Russia, the powers of the Russian border guards in relation to foreign ships sailing in sea waters without coordination with the Russian side will definitely be added.
As it was already said by the head of the Ministry of Natural Resources, economic benefits will also increase. According to Rosneft, a total of 2 trillion is on the shelf. cubic meters of gas and 1,1 billion tons of oil.

I would like to believe that the new, if I may say so, “conquests” of Russia will benefit the people of Russia (the state treasury), and not just a select handful of people preparing to receive part of the huge Okhotsk pie. If in the future the second option works, then the positive information will receive a very gray coloration, and will reduce all research by scientists to the fact of unintentionally serving the interests of the oligarchy ...

So, Russia, after the work of the UN Subcommittee on the Limits of the Continental Shelf, is one step away from a big victory. Obtaining the right to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and to a substantial area of ​​the continental shelf is an achievement that is indisputably outstanding. However, it is worth thinking about the possible presence of “pitfalls” in such a decision of the UN subcommittee. Perhaps there are no “reefs” here, and it is possible that there is absolutely no need to look for some conspiracy. However, if you look at the situation more closely, you can see interesting things. One of these things is the potential status of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, voiced by the Minister of Natural Resources and Ecology Sergey Donskoy, namely the status of the internal sea of ​​Russia.

The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is really surrounded by the territories of Russia, but on the southern outskirts it washes the shores of the Japanese island of Hokkaido. The presence of one of the seashores of the territory of a contiguous state did not give a legal opportunity to turn the Sea of ​​Okhotsk into the inland sea of ​​Russia. The fact that the sea has become an exclusive zone of the interests of the Russian Federation has recently been out of the question, since Japan was categorically opposed to the designated Russian initiatives. And now the Ministry of Natural Resources is talking about the readiness of the full recognition of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk as the internal sea of ​​Russia by the world community.

In 2001, the Russian Federation has already filed an application for a significant expansion of its economic zone in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and then it was the Japanese who obstructed this application. Now, it turns out, there were no problems with the Japanese ... Why would it?

It is interesting that in the summer of this year, Russian officials have already expressed themselves on this issue. One of them was the Deputy Minister of Natural Resources and Environment of the Russian Federation Denis Khramov:

We do not consider the application difficult and do not expect very long consideration. We were given recommendations, we finalized everything, agreed the application with Japan.


Especially interesting is the remark on the approval of the “summer” application with Japan, because at the end of April 2013, our country was visited by the head of the Cabinet of Ministers of the Country of the Rising Sun, Shinzo Abe. Then Mr. Abe didn’t intend to conceal that the main purpose of his visit was “breakthrough agreements” on the islands of the Kuril archipelago. Abe left Moscow, and there seemed to be no “breakthroughs” on the islands, thank God, they did not manifest themselves. But ... Then our application for the Okhotsk site appears. And the most interesting thing: Japan immediately expresses its approval to the Russian application - once, the UN functionaries vote for the Russian application unanimously - two ... I wonder how this Japanese "partners" suddenly turned out to be so friendly and compliant with respect to Russia. At one time, I had to deal with Japanese subjects and I dare to say that no self-respecting Japanese will ever make any gifts without confidence in his own benefit. Such a people with their own special, clearly different from ours, mentality. But if one assumes that Japan has been promised benefits from its support, it is even somehow scary to suggest what such a benefit is ... Has it ever occurred to someone “above” to change the status of the Okhotsk shelf to the wide Japanese “access” to the Kuril Islands - on a certain “barter” exchange between territories and waters, between statuses and other components in bilateral relations ...

After all, one of the prominent hyperliberal economists close to the power circles could even have a little thought that trillions of gas cubes and innumerable oil barrels (as a result of the shelf development) could be more profitable than the arrangement of the Kuril territories. And if such a “little thought” is also actively brought to decision-makers, then you need to be especially careful - continue to monitor the situation so that one “fine” day we will not wake up in a country with different outlines on the map
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  1. Tarpon
    Tarpon 20 November 2013 08: 33
    22
    International recognition of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk Russia: rejoice or look for "pitfalls"?

    Rejoice, but not relax.
    1. Beibit
      Beibit 20 November 2013 08: 52
      +2
      it’s even scary to think that in return they gave ??? Syria lost or debt for Libya ???
      1. APES
        APES 20 November 2013 09: 02
        +7
        Quote: Beibit
        what in return gave


        They just promised not to frown.
        1. nickname 1 and 2
          nickname 1 and 2 20 November 2013 17: 05
          +1
          “Upstairs”, it’s in the head to change the status of the Okhotsk shelf to a wide Japanese “access” to the Kuril Islands - to a kind of “barter” exchange between territories and waters, between statuses and other components in bilateral relations ...


          EVERYTHING IS EASIER: JAPANESE FINALLY DID FINALLY THAT - IF WE AND FURTHER BOOM RUSSIA NOT MISSING = PIE THEN EAT WITHOUT US !!!!!!!!!!!! And we will be under the approval of the states!
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 20 November 2013 21: 29
            0
            Quote: nick 1 and 2
            EVERYTHING IS EASIER: JAPANESE FINALLY DID FINALLY THAT - IF WE AND FURTHER BOOM RUSSIA NOT MISSING = PIE THEN EAT WITHOUT US !!!!!!!!!!!! And we will be under the approval of the states!

            Economic crisis - works wonders!
            So Japan realized that without Russia it would be difficult for it and China would take its place.
      2. Ribwort
        Ribwort 20 November 2013 10: 04
        23
        Quote: Beibit
        Syria lost or debt for Libya ???

        What the hell are they of Japan? But if the islands merge, I won’t be surprised at all. Our temporary workers in the government are interested not in the arrangement of territories and in investing money in it, but in resources. He quickly drilled a well, pumped out what was possible and his legs, until the people came to his senses and put them on the forks.
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 21 November 2013 04: 10
          +2
          Quote: Ribwort
          Quote: Beibit
          Syria lost or debt for Libya ???

          What the hell are they of Japan? But if the islands merge, I won’t be surprised at all. Our temporary workers in the government are interested not in the arrangement of territories and in investing money in it, but in resources. He quickly drilled a well, pumped out what was possible and his legs, until the people came to his senses and put them on the forks.

          This is how many people need to "recover"? "Pobystrenky" drilled, pumped out, how much? Month? Two? Is it really half a year ??? The people do not decide anything, and everyone knows this very well.
      3. Ramadan
        Ramadan 20 November 2013 21: 35
        +1
        Where is Japan and where is Syria with Libya? No, not this option for sure.
    2. SAG
      SAG 20 November 2013 11: 07
      +1
      + ... information for consideration ...
    3. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 20 November 2013 11: 23
      27
      Now we need to recognize the Japanese islands as part of Russia, because they belong to the Kuril ridge, and the Russian Kuril Islands ...
      1. Check
        Check 20 November 2013 13: 27
        25
        and washed by the Russian Inland Sea))
        1. ostrovpan
          ostrovpan 20 November 2013 21: 04
          +1
          solution to the Kuril problem
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    4. Siberian German
      Siberian German 20 November 2013 17: 27
      +6
      but I kind of remember the seventh grade geography that it’s kind of like the sea belonged to the USSR - or I missed something and now we need to prove that this is our sea - where is the hitch
      1. Zifix
        Zifix 20 November 2013 21: 07
        +1
        There in the middle was a very decent piece, of neutral waters, sort of.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 20 November 2013 21: 13
          +1
          Quote: Zifix
          neutral waters kind of like.

          In the inland sea?
          1. demel2
            demel2 21 November 2013 08: 43
            +1
            It was not an internal economic zone 200 miles from the shores, but it turns out more, so a drawless polygon formed in the center of the sea, under the USSR, NO ONE thought to climb there, but with a hunchback and a wino, no one was fishing there.
      2. Takashi
        Takashi 21 November 2013 08: 17
        0
        for sure. I remember from the geography course for grade 7 that the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is internal the sea of ​​the USSR.

        It became most interesting ..
      3. demel2
        demel2 21 November 2013 08: 34
        0
        The so-called polygon. Which in the 90s who just did not rob.
    5. Sakmagon
      Sakmagon 21 November 2013 03: 15
      -2
      Perhaps there are no "reefs" here, and it is possible that it is absolutely unnecessary to look for some conspiracy theology. However, if you look closely at the situation more closely ... Now, it turns out, there were no problems with the Japanese ... Why would this be?

      Brilliantly !!!
      Earlier they yelled - "did something, AAAA !!!! Everything is lost !!!"
      Now they yell - "what if they do something wrong ... AAAA !!!! Everything is lost !!!"
      "The Japanese don't just do anything!" - right. Fukushima, a humanitarian catastrophe, the Anglo-Saxon ally does not have time to cover its ass - not until the Japanese, China will soon start sawing the Japanese islands - and here is the "neutral piece" of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk (in the very center!), Which is accessible only through territorial waters Russia. The same Russia, from which oil, gas, seafood ... and - a state of war, that is, an armistice, until the first shot. That's really, really ...
      1. dimon-media
        dimon-media 21 November 2013 17: 07
        +3
        On the demotivator photo of Ksenia Sobchak chtoli? ))) laughing
    6. Su24
      Su24 22 November 2013 16: 36
      +2
      Quote: Tarpon
      After all, one of the prominent hyperliberal economists close to the power circles could even have a little thought that trillions of gas cubes and innumerable oil barrels (as a result of the shelf development) could be more profitable than the arrangement of the Kuril territories. And if such a “little thought” is also actively brought to decision-makers, then you need to be especially careful - continue to monitor the situation so that one “fine” day we will not wake up in a country with different outlines on the map


      At one time, the USSR, back in the 1950s, proposed a clever agreement on the exchange of the southern Kuriles, on the withdrawal of US bases from Japan, i.e. its "Finlandization". Then the Americans, realizing themselves, quickly covered up this initiative. In 2004, Putin proposed something similar, and the Japanese seemed to agree. But the Americans began to stir again, criminal cases were opened against several Japanese politicians.
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 20 November 2013 08: 35
    -1
    I'm afraid the Kuril Islands will merge.
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 20 November 2013 08: 48
      11
      Quote: Vladimirets
      I'm afraid the Kuril Islands will merge.


      After the Fukushima Japanese, the issue of accommodation is very acute. Plus, China crushes on the disputed islands. I don’t know what they agreed on, but maybe everything is not so sad? Still, the yapes are under serious pressure, and they don’t really stand out. And after clashes with China, their tone has changed a lot.
      In general, we are waiting.
    2. predator.3
      predator.3 20 November 2013 08: 49
      +2
      Quote: Vladimirets
      I'm afraid the Kuril Islands will merge.

      Such an option is also possible, I read somewhere that the Japanese agree on the small Kuril ridge (hobamai and shikotan islands) i.e. they won’t claim Kunashir and Iturup. I don’t know what our leaders decided there.
      1. Genry
        Genry 20 November 2013 11: 44
        +9
        There is nothing to worry about the islands. Only close to large islands, there are safe passageways for ships. Russia, for this reason, has returned them to itself.
        1. Mizhgan
          Mizhgan 20 November 2013 12: 17
          +7
          Dare the best answer to the problem of the Kuril ridge and the Japanese problem. At the moment, that is, strengthening the Russian Armed Forces, this topic on the transfer of part of the Kuril shelf to Japan should not be considered at all.
        2. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 20 November 2013 12: 19
          -8
          Quote: Genry
          Only close to large islands, there are safe passageways for ships. Russia, for this reason, has returned them to itself.

          You think in terms of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905, what the hell are safe passages now?
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 21 November 2013 00: 08
            -1
            Has anyone argued their minuses or, like Pavlov’s dog, does the reflex work for red?
            1. iConst
              iConst 21 November 2013 00: 17
              +2
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Has anyone argued their minuses or, like Pavlov’s dog, does the reflex work for red?

              Take it easy. This is a normal reaction to:
              - misunderstood
              - objective criticism
              - different from the "common stream" direction

              If you want likes, write enthusiastically patriotic phrases. Examples are attached. But do not expect that a lot will break off at once. You need to enter the clip. In general - such a small Russian.
              1. gispanec
                gispanec 22 November 2013 20: 23
                -1
                Quote: iConst
                In general - such a small Russian.

                ... the real thing
          2. Cynic
            Cynic 22 November 2013 21: 03
            0
            Quote: Vladimirets
            what the fuck are safe passages now?

            Firstly your own
            Secondly, without these islands and, as an appendix, straits between them, the conversation about the Sea of ​​Okhotsk as our inland sea loses its meaning.
            Actually this is a legal incident, let the lawyers correct, not all the banks are Russian!
            Although, by and large, since this is our inland sea, then the coast means all of ours!
            So you need to try to resolve the issue of Hokkaido as a Russian island!
            Good thing Fukushima is on Honshu.
            hi
      2. bddrus
        bddrus 23 November 2013 14: 42
        0
        The Japanese just refused - somewhere it is said that when in exchange for signing a peace treaty they promised to give Shikotan and Habomai (incidentally, the GDP confirms that Russia is ready to speak with Tokyo on the basis of this declaration), then Washington threatened that Japan would never Okinawa will not see - as I understand the base on Okinawa has not gone anywhere since then.
    3. stayer
      stayer 20 November 2013 09: 18
      26
      C fig? The bottom line is that the sea is surrounded by Russian territory. There remained a small piece washing Hokkaido. If you give the Kuril Islands, the sea will not be considered inland. At the same time, the meaning of the whole undertaking of the Ministry of Natural Resources and Russia is lost.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 20 November 2013 09: 40
        +2
        Quote: stayer
        At the same time, the meaning of the whole undertaking of the Ministry of Natural Resources and Russia is lost.

        Our Ministry of Natural Resources is a very serious player in world politics. wink Everything may not be as it seems at first glance.
      2. tungus
        tungus 20 November 2013 09: 49
        18
        Not quite right. If you leave Kunashir and Iturup, and give Shikotan and Habomai, then the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will still be the inland sea of ​​Russia. Shikotan and the Habomai ridge are parallel to Kunashir, from the outside.
        Another thing is not clear: why give our islands to Japan? There is no reason for this. The absence of a peace treaty did not stop us for 70 years, it will not interfere in the future. The transfer of part of its territory to another state is the country's weakness and incompetence. That is exactly what all the neighbors will perceive. So I do not think that Putin seriously intended to give up the islands. Rather, it just plays with the Yap, perhaps just so that they would not excite about the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
        1. demel2
          demel2 21 November 2013 08: 59
          +2
          And the fact that when he was a condom iPhone leaked the Barents Sea to the Norwegians for offshore oil production technology, does this mean the power of the state? And we all said nothing as if nothing had happened. I won’t be surprised if the Kuril Islands are also merged and we pretend that nothing happened. And yes remember the Bering Sea shelf and the unforgettable hump.
          1. dimon-media
            dimon-media 21 November 2013 17: 22
            0
            Do you see one person and a politician in Putin and Medvedev?
        2. gispanec
          gispanec 22 November 2013 20: 27
          0
          Quote: tungus
          So I do not think that Putin seriously intended to give up the islands. Rather just playing with yap

          Sorry, but I gave the Dagestan village to the Isaacs ... and nothing ... everyone swallowed ... and this is a fact ... + the Chinese are preparing a gift in the Altai ... this is not enough for you? ... you’re trolling here ... in real life are
  3. zart_arn
    zart_arn 20 November 2013 08: 36
    +5
    Japanese authorities demand the southern Kuril Islands only in the outbursts of their domestic political game - they do not need such a burden. Most likely, we frayed business interests with fishing with our accomplices there, in the oil industry, got their share - and here is the result, the samurai keep their word.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 20 November 2013 19: 38
      +7
      Quote: zart_arn
      Japanese authorities demand the southern Kuril Islands only in the outbursts of their domestic political game

      Try to explain to those who are on the tank that the issue with the Kuril Islands is the issue of going to the local parliament and no more than that I myself can’t stand Japan as a state and as a nation including But there isn’t any politics there, they’re in the electorate and play
  4. Ihrek
    Ihrek 20 November 2013 08: 36
    13
    The title is not very clear. Of course you need to rejoice. And the Kurils cannot be given (or, more precisely, to give to someone), and I am inclined to trust Putin in this matter.
    1. Mikado
      Mikado 20 November 2013 15: 19
      +5
      I also trusted him, and then he presented him to the Chinese of the island for some kind of mythical stability on the border, so that there were no more questions. Now, the Chinese have regular questions about the next 150 sections of the border.
      1. DimychDV
        DimychDV 20 November 2013 17: 38
        +7
        So ask the public committee for controlling demarcation. And if it is not, create it. Border demarcation is a process that two more communist powers should have settled for a long time. And we did not put a dozen guys because of this troublemaker on Damansky, and not only there. All over the world, it is considered normal to draw a border not along the water line, as the envoy Ignatiev managed in 1860 from Beijing and to lead along the Chinese shores, but namely along the fairway of the river. And on the watersheds, and on other naturally visible natural boundaries - this remains only a matter of coordinating the interests of both parties right on the spot. What about us? Local Chinese have no right to fish in either Ussuri or Amur. About 90 years ago, one of our taiga capture was in our possession. When conducting along its borders and outlined the Soviet-Chinese border. Collectivization has long passed, the grandfather’s land was taken away and not included in the circulation - since the border strip is once, and now there is no road to it — two. Behind a rocky ridge from the Chinese side there are hundreds of thirty of our riverine lands. And all our concern is to track down new Chinese secrets on the other side, and for neighbors - it is more inconspicuous to create them. I myself was on that site. The officers shrug their shoulders: there is an order - we are guarding. And only it would be better for us to have patrols on the crest, and KSP - at the foot.
        1. gispanec
          gispanec 22 November 2013 20: 33
          -1
          Quote: DimychDV
          and it’s precisely along the fairway of the river. And along the watersheds, and along other naturally visible natural boundaries

          Dimych, you probably lost your brain somewhere ... the fairway and the watershed are almost incompatible things ... this is one ... two ... now for 15 years, the Chinese whales have been changing the fairway by dumping their shore ... the fairway is changing by 20- 30 km downstream ... thrust your intercessionary expressions into the depths .... I hate stupid and provocateurs, to whom you belong
      2. Sakmagon
        Sakmagon 21 November 2013 03: 21
        +1
        Mikado
        Now, the Chinese have regular questions about the next 150 sections of the border.

        Already 150 ??? But from now on, pzhzhzhaluysta, in more detail. Where do ears grow from? Or OBS?
  5. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 20 November 2013 08: 39
    11
    Did it ever occur to someone “upstairs” to change the status of the Okhotsk shelf to widespread Japanese “access” to the Kuril Islands
    Yes, it’s easy .. Everything went too smoothly (without yelling and screaming) .. Although it is possible to patrol our missile carriers off the coast of Japan played a role ..? Correctly, the author noticed you need to follow! Article plus wrote well as always!
    1. Genry
      Genry 20 November 2013 11: 49
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Correctly, the author noticed you need to follow! Article plus wrote well as always!

      An article with "kooks" pulled out of the finger. Then there will be links to them and this article for another 30 years.
  6. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 20 November 2013 08: 40
    +5
    Alexey, the author, may they not give up the Kuril Islands, simply because there will be not just a social explosion, it will be a social brawl with all the consequences."If today the state says that we need the Kuriles, then we must approach this territory as an important part of the country and create comfortable living conditions there. It is still difficult there with transport," Ishaev added. But I noticed that a lot has already been done there - these are two airports in Iturup and Kunashir (the first is still under construction), seaports, the development of a fundamentally different, alternative energyhttp://sakhalinmedia.ru/news/kurily/23.05.2013/277816/programma-sotsialno-ekonom
    icheskogo-razvitiya-kurilskih-ostrovov-budet-prodlena.html
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort 20 November 2013 10: 08
      -2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Alexey, the author, may they not give up the Kuril Islands, simply because there will be not just a social explosion, it will be a social brawl with all the consequences.

      I’m laughing nimagu! laughing The same thing was written about the part of the shelf that was eventually given to the Scandinavians. About territorial concessions to China ... So what? Got it, gentlemen? Get used to it ...
      1. Mizhgan
        Mizhgan 20 November 2013 12: 34
        +1
        Not ssssyyy, return, or rather, they will return. Do not believe? But in vain. ;)
    2. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 20 November 2013 10: 16
      14
      Alexander Romanov, there will be not just a social explosion, it will be a social brawl with all the consequences (s)
      Calm down already. Not a damn thing. How many times have they been threatened this year alone? And "Tolik" - with a new portfolio, the laws - all curious and curious. The keys are easy to press.
      1. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 20 November 2013 13: 01
        +6
        Just recently carried out a predatory pension reform. Was there an explosion? Did not have. But this applies to everyone. And you say islands ...
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 20 November 2013 15: 50
          +5
          Quote: Kibalchish
          Just recently carried out a predatory pension reform.

          And there was no explosion, because no one understands any crap in their new formulas, and in addition, according to these formulas, people will begin to retire for 12-15 years.
  7. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 20 November 2013 08: 41
    10
    In general, it is unclear what kind of recognition this could be. The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is essentially the inland sea of ​​Russia. And let someone challenge this fact.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 November 2013 08: 46
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      And let someone challenge this fact.

      The article is contested, you need to read not only the title.
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 20 November 2013 09: 07
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: vladsolo56
        And let someone challenge this fact.

        The article is contested, you need to read not only the title.

        few people can argue that if they come to your home and challenge your right to a home, what will you answer?
        1. Mizhgan
          Mizhgan 20 November 2013 12: 45
          +1
          If the documents are in order, I will send to x ... If they come again, to the court. If after a positive trial (in my direction) they come again, I’ll shoot myself for ebony ... holes. Well, this is if especially persistent - crime.
      2. avt
        avt 20 November 2013 09: 49
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The article is contested, you need to read not only the title.

        Quote: vladsolo56
        few people can argue that if they come to your home and challenge your right to a home, what will you answer?

        It was already. After the civilian, the Japanese caught fish in the arrogant near Vladivostok, but on the demand to leave the territorial waters, they simply drove a couple of destroyers to protect the fishermen. The fleet needs to be built, and scoundrels - traitors like Shevarnadze should not be kept in the leadership, then no one with a compass will verify anything on the map.
        1. Mizhgan
          Mizhgan 20 November 2013 12: 49
          -1
          After the civil, Russia was exhausted. There is logic. Alas.
          1. Mikado
            Mikado 20 November 2013 15: 33
            +1
            Even before the civil one, there was an agreement with the Japanese (it was a trailer for peace in 1905) that they had the right to fish along our entire coast, including entering the estuaries during fish spawning and putting nets there
    2. King
      King 20 November 2013 09: 00
      +3
      I agree. If you look at the map, then from almost all sides the Sea of ​​Okhotsk surrounds the territory of Russia.
    3. IRBIS
      IRBIS 20 November 2013 10: 39
      +5
      Quote: vladsolo56
      The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is essentially the inland sea of ​​Russia.

      I, too, have always been sure of this and therefore this article is a discovery for me.
      Quote: vladsolo56
      And let someone challenge this fact.

      Definitely! We have enough weighty arguments. And especially ceremonies do not need to breed.
    4. ZU-23
      ZU-23 20 November 2013 11: 38
      +4
      For anyone, EVERYTHING is ours and our point, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Kunashir and Iturup are ours and no pitfalls are needed here, we are already developing cooperation with the Japs. We have many strange reasoning, conversations are not supported by anything, and even when we legally affirm our right to our territories. So it’s not necessary to inflate any geopolitical problems from nowhere, our sea and scoop fish with oil, the advantages are obvious, and the future disadvantages are only invented. Some kind of oligarchy was dragged here, but they won’t invest a dime there, they now barely survive near Tyumen from greed.
      1. demel2
        demel2 21 November 2013 09: 18
        +1
        Well, it’s in vain that you have developed vigorous activity in Okhotsk, search vessels snoop over fishing
    5. Mizhgan
      Mizhgan 20 November 2013 12: 40
      0
      And no one is going to dispute at the moment. Everyone sees that Russia is gaining its former power.
      1. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 20 November 2013 17: 01
        +8
        Quote: Mijgan
        Everyone sees that Russia is gaining its former power.


        And who likes it? Any concession to the West must be looked at in both!
        So wait for the catch. But this is not the worst ... And what do our taxis want? In Russia, it’s always directly in Chernomyrdin’s way. They wanted the best, but it turned out as always. And we have power ....
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 20 November 2013 19: 28
          +1
          LADY probably gave PS Vita a new one! But Cho, can McCain play toys at meetings, and our DAM will not? wassat ?
      2. alone
        alone 20 November 2013 21: 13
        +1
        Quote: Mijgan
        And no one is going to dispute at the moment. Everyone sees that Russia is gaining its former power.


        since the commission has been working for several months, it means that someone has disputed this. Otherwise, why will it take several months to figure it out?
    6. GSH-18
      GSH-18 20 November 2013 22: 04
      +1
      Quote: vladsolo56
      In general, it is unclear what kind of recognition this could be. The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is essentially the inland sea of ​​Russia. And let someone challenge this fact.

      Friends! The recognition of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk as the inland sea of ​​the Russian Federation is a serious thing! Of course, we could have considered it as our property as much as we wanted before. But this did not allow us to ban fishing for Japanese and other fishermen, of whom there are a lot. Since the sea is very rich in resources. But now it will be possible to shoot a gun from the ship’s machine gun, if not invited guests pretend not to understand! laughing
  8. Eugeniy_369
    Eugeniy_369 20 November 2013 08: 46
    +2
    The news about the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is no longer entirely news ... but still nice good . On the other hand, the author correctly raised the question, why did Yapi suddenly become so amiable and accommodating, maybe the Kuril Islands? Or maybe we promised them help on Diaoydao (Senkak)? Here you need to go hard with a pencil ....
    And a little off-topic, the Kuril Islands are on "Yandex-maps" as the Sakhalin Region passes. The name of the islands is missing. Is this a pancake sabotage on the part of Yandex? By the way, the sea is good, but if we leave them, the Americans will close the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, and it will be possible to forget about the secret exit to the Pacific Ocean.
  9. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 20 November 2013 08: 47
    +7
    I don’t see what to rejoice at! Well, they recognized what has always been ours, so what? And where is our sold and betrayed by the Georgian Shevardnadze and the "tagged" one, and there is somewhere more than 60 thousand square kilometers. And I see no reason to be glad that they recognize ours as ours!
    1. Eugeniy_369
      Eugeniy_369 20 November 2013 08: 59
      +2
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      And where is our sold and betrayed by the Georgian Shevardnadze and the "tagged" one, and there is somewhere more than 60 thousand square kilometers.

      You probably want to say about the "Agreement between the USSR and the USA on the demarcation line of sea spaces"?
      "Until now, the Agreement has not been ratified by the Russian parliament and is applied on a provisional basis after the exchange of notes between the USSR Foreign Ministry and the US Department of State."
      There are losses for us, but will we just send from the Navy there to reinforce our disagreement?
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 20 November 2013 13: 12
        +2
        Sorry, but this is in your opinion an elementary seizure of our territory! An adequate answer is needed, to declare this territory in the United Nations forbidden for swimming, flying, etc. etc. By law, this is our territory, and all claims against Shevardnadze and to the Tagged!
        1. demel2
          demel2 21 November 2013 09: 26
          +1
          And to reinforce such statements against s is what?
  10. makarov
    makarov 20 November 2013 08: 57
    -1
    Some kind of strange copyright conclusions fantasy. Again, some kind of hyperliberals are to blame, who sleep and see one thing, to spoil their native country.

    Strong Russia with miracles
    And I was not tired of weaving them:
    Sheep is chosen here.
    Himself wolves graze themselves.
    И.Г.
  11. morpogr
    morpogr 20 November 2013 09: 07
    +8
    The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is our inland and the point. Our land is the Kuril Islands. There is no discussion! angry
  12. pv1005
    pv1005 20 November 2013 09: 11
    +3
    If the Kuril Islands give way, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will cease to be inland with all the ensuing consequences. So why then was the city fence?
  13. ed65b
    ed65b 20 November 2013 09: 12
    +2
    Looks like the arguments were reinforced concrete and that's recognized.
  14. ReifA
    ReifA 20 November 2013 09: 19
    +1
    In general, the meaning of the "huge achievement" is not clear. Looking at the map, any normal person will not dispute the ownership of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk to Russia. And if someone joins the abnormal - Duc Russia is like someone blathering about its territory.
    World recognition is nice, but in this case, IMHO, is not critical. As mentioned above, do not give
    God, for this pleasantness they will give something to someone, in the island equivalent.
  15. raf
    raf 20 November 2013 09: 25
    +3
    Even in such joyful news, some who are not trying to look for bad request Well, some kind of paranoia!
    1. Belogor
      Belogor 20 November 2013 09: 35
      -1
      Nowadays, it is a trend to look for the bad in everything, the journalistic fraternity and all sorts of structures, NGOs and others feed on this.
    2. 505506
      505506 20 November 2013 09: 37
      +5
      Fear Danes, even gifts that bring. Fear, here, in a figurative sense, like: They are vile, wait from the Danians even to recognize the sea behind you.
  16. 505506
    505506 20 November 2013 09: 33
    +3
    Ours, ours ... And the level of (foreign) poaching is off the charts. Fortunately, this year the border post on Shantara was restored. Now it is necessary to "close" the sea so that all sorts of jackals do not climb. If there is an office. recognition of the sea for us, you can show your teeth without looking back. The main question is whether we will be able to restore the protection of borders, both on land and at sea. Otherwise, the recognition will remain on paper ...
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 20 November 2013 15: 41
      +7
      I agree ! How many foreigners trawled in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk until recently? The whole region and even the Poles ... I'm afraid there’s nothing to catch there belay
  17. Stiletto
    Stiletto 20 November 2013 09: 33
    +9
    ... In return, the Japanese promised not to claim Tokyo and the surrounding area.
    In fact, we only know that we know nothing. Well, then we’ll see.
    1. Genry
      Genry 20 November 2013 12: 00
      +5
      The islands of Japan, geologically, are a continuation of the Kuril ridge.
      If our ridge, our sea, then Japan must be added. There will be a Japanese national district. Although it will be difficult to change left-hand traffic and power supply. And so it goes.
      1. Far East
        Far East 20 November 2013 12: 46
        +1
        Quote: Genry
        Although it will be difficult to change left-hand traffic and power supply. And so it goes.

        dear, easy! to the URALS 99% of Japanese cars! but about the Okhotsk! if you give them an island! it will be .. ape! there are so many marine resources "mom do not cry! and yet, found some rare land deposits that are no longer on our" mother earth "who is interested in google! hi
        1. Mature naturalist
          Mature naturalist 20 November 2013 16: 24
          +2
          Quote: Far East
          to URAL 99% Japanese cars! ... and yet, they found some rare-earth deposits

          Over time, in the Japanese Autonomous Okrug, car factories will begin to produce normal cars commissioned by the Empire - with left-hand drive. But this is more of a joke.

          But the rare earth elements are serious. This is competition for China. If only the country grew stronger from this, and not members of the Ozero cooperative.
  18. zvereok
    zvereok 20 November 2013 09: 54
    +3
    Did it ever occur to someone “upstairs” to change the status of the Okhotsk shelf to widespread “access” to the Kuril Islands - to a kind of “barter” exchange between territories and waters, between statuses and other components in bilateral relations ...


    If so, then I even know this person. But he, judging by Serdyukov, will not incur any punishment, amid the embarrassed murmur of the electorate - "If not him, then the cat?", "If he does this, I will be disappointed in him", "Well, after the World Cup, everything will certainly be different."
  19. nemec55
    nemec55 20 November 2013 10: 04
    +3
    By the volume of reserves, these territories are 52 thousand square meters. km is a real cave of Ali Baba, access to which opens up great opportunities and prospects for the Russian economy.


    Economists are happy as much as possible (for sawing), but the common people don’t care if we don’t have high-quality and cheap fish and we don’t have any. There is no long-distance development there are no roads for people to go on vacation more than to go to Turkey to check while it lasts for territories like a cat oil reserves sea gas fossil while living in honduras # $ # $$ %%% $$ # $ y
  20. asadov
    asadov 20 November 2013 10: 05
    +1
    They recognized it well, the most important thing now is to use it wisely ...
  21. Oskar
    Oskar 20 November 2013 10: 07
    0
    It is sad that such questions are generally raised and have a place to be ... But it is also pleasing that everything was decided in our favor.
  22. voldmis
    voldmis 20 November 2013 10: 14
    0
    The news this morning is getting better and better! What is it for?
  23. strel212
    strel212 20 November 2013 10: 48
    +2
    The status of the sea on the islands, a bad deal, a very bad one, let's hope that this is only our fantasies ..... but if it does happen, I’m even afraid to think about it, this is the collapse of foreign policy
  24. Cutter
    Cutter 20 November 2013 11: 44
    +1
    For a long time this "donut hole" haunted the border guards of the FSB and the Marine Inspection. A huge fleet of poachers under all the flags of the world, including home-grown ones, defended and is still defending in it. It is a very convenient place under cover of night in summer and in winter in ice fields (schooners are absolutely white, no names), to carry out overloading of illegally obtained biological resources. There are few biological resources in the nickel itself, but it is an excellent springboard for forays into the economy. zone of Russia. There are whole schemes of theft, ships "distractions", ships "dummy" leading the coast guard. There are such "grandmothers" twisted. The case of General Gamow has all the same roots. Generally glad about the death of the aspen nest. , or rather a number of interested parties, in the uncontrolled influx of expensive seafood at bargain prices into the international market and related problems for these interested parties.
  25. timurso
    timurso 20 November 2013 12: 31
    +2
    Like small children (except Cutter). Understand the difference between territorial waters and the 200-mile economic zone. The Sea of ​​Okhotsk was not and did not become the inland sea of ​​Russia, because Hokkaido is still a Japanese island and overlooks the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. We simply (although this is also good) in a local place expanded the 200-mile zone and established our ECONOMIC-ECONOMIC rights over the zone about which Cutter wrote above. But now any steamship of the US Navy can calmly plow the expanses of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk until it is less than 5 miles closer to the Russian coast or does not begin to fish on an industrial scale.
  26. Poruchik 90
    Poruchik 90 20 November 2013 12: 48
    0
    Whatever it was, the border guards were untied, which is good.
  27. major071
    major071 20 November 2013 13: 10
    +5
    timurso
    The Sea of ​​Okhotsk was not and did not become the inland sea of ​​Russia, because Hokkaido while Japanese island and overlooks the Sea of ​​Okhotsk

    I liked this word - while. good
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 20 November 2013 13: 42
      -3
      Well, well ... the young men have hopes. Rather, Sakhalin while Russian.
  28. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 20 November 2013 13: 18
    0
    To give up the Kuril Islands is the same as to do hara-kiri (there will be no answer to plunder the Russian lands), there is no gentleman "rulers", do not hope, we will turn the fur out and make them crow at the bucket! We will figure it out with Norway (as Sharikov said) !!!
  29. Romanychby
    Romanychby 20 November 2013 13: 42
    +1
    The GDP and its galloping oligarchs again had the opportunity to cut the dough. And let the people continue to vegetate in poverty with a joyful thought: the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is the inland sea of ​​Russia :)
  30. Candy wrapper
    Candy wrapper 20 November 2013 13: 42
    +1
    50 thousand square meters km This is a piece of the sea 250 to 200 km. A small part of the large Sea of ​​Okhotsk (S = 1603 thousand km²). The accession of such a tiny patch to the Russian Federation cannot be called a historical event. And the UN has not yet made a final decision on this issue, only preliminary consent has been obtained. The UN Commission meeting with the final vote on this issue will be held in February 2014.
  31. Leshka
    Leshka 20 November 2013 13: 58
    0
    Hooray, it would have been like that with Alaska good
  32. Candy wrapper
    Candy wrapper 20 November 2013 14: 05
    +1
    Quote: Leshka
    Hooray, it would have been like that with Alaska good

    For this, it is necessary that most of the inhabitants of our country are literate, among other things ...
  33. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 20 November 2013 14: 16
    +1
    HOORAY! Any victory of Russia pleases. And with Japan, something else will be ...
    1. iConst
      iConst 20 November 2013 15: 55
      +2
      Quote: Peaceful military
      .... And with Japan, something else will be ...

      Nothing will happen. The Japs also have enough teas with India and Korea and the Chinese. And this problem is deliberately not being solved at the direction of the "partners".

      The fun thing is History. The Yankees burned two cities with and several hundred thousand civilians, and the post-losses are generally astronomical - and the descendants of the proud samurai like an obedient dog on their leash.

      The USSR, on the other hand, halted hostilities and did not occupy Hokkaido, as it was supposed according to the plan — the Americans had simplified it. That circus would be!
      1. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 20 November 2013 18: 31
        -1
        They did not beg, but threatened. Against the United States, the USSR would have a navel unleashed.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 20 November 2013 19: 24
          +1
          Quote: Kibalchish
          They did not beg, but threatened. Against the United States, the USSR would have a navel unleashed.

          What?
          No need to publicize your not knowing those realities! Also say that you are not aware of Churchill’s initiative to launch hostilities against the CCCP in July 45th. But counted and ...
          The former allies accumulated the necessary atomic potential by the 47th year and, as a result, the Fulton speech!
        2. Peaceful military
          Peaceful military 20 November 2013 22: 07
          0
          Quote: Kibalchish
          They did not beg, but threatened. Against the United States, the USSR would have a navel unleashed.

          I disagree, since the state of forces, means and military economies were diametrically different, which is why the well-known "Unthinkable" plan remained inconceivable (they would have struck, being sure that the USSR would have "the navel untied" without delay). And we studied all this in the course of the secret subject "Military Economy". hi
      2. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 20 November 2013 22: 00
        0
        Quote: iConst
        Quote: Peaceful military
        .... And with Japan, something else will be ...

        Nothing will happen. The Japs also have enough teas with India and Korea and the Chinese. And this problem is deliberately not being solved at the direction of the "partners".

        The fun thing is History. The Yankees burned two cities with and several hundred thousand civilians, and the post-losses are generally astronomical - and the descendants of the proud samurai like an obedient dog on their leash.

        The USSR, on the other hand, halted hostilities and did not occupy Hokkaido, as it was supposed according to the plan — the Americans had simplified it. That circus would be!

        I agree that it’s funny and funny by the fact that we are reasoning with you, not knowing how it really was. hi
  34. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 20 November 2013 15: 43
    +2
    In the history of Russia, there were already "benefactors" who gave no smell of tobacco resource-rich Alaska. Are there lovers of sale of the Kuril lands in the 21 century? This will be the national disgrace of Russia. To give what is obtained by blood is a crime against the people!
    1. iConst
      iConst 20 November 2013 16: 02
      0
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      In the history of Russia there have already been "benefactors" who have given away Alaska, rich in natural resources, even for a smell of tobacco.

      Not given, but leased. It was then profiled ...
      1. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 20 November 2013 16: 12
        +1
        Quote: iConst
        Quote: Ivanovich47
        In the history of Russia there have already been "benefactors" who have given away Alaska, rich in natural resources, even for a smell of tobacco.

        Not given, but leased. It was then profiled ...

        It was sold. Yes, they were begging the States to buy it.
        1. biznaw
          biznaw 21 November 2013 19: 10
          0
          Quote: DoctorOleg
          Quote: iConst
          Quote: Ivanovich47
          In the history of Russia there have already been "benefactors" who have given away Alaska, rich in natural resources, even for a smell of tobacco.

          Not given, but leased. It was then profiled ...

          It was sold. Yes, they were begging the States to buy it.

          How many in
          Quote: DoctorOleg
          Quote: iConst
          Quote: Ivanovich47
          In the history of Russia there have already been "benefactors" who have given away Alaska, rich in natural resources, even for a smell of tobacco.

          Not given, but leased. It was then profiled ...

          It was sold. Yes, they were begging the States to buy it.


          Hmm ... How many versions ... "Catherine you were wrong!"
          The problem is not that they sold, but that they did not receive money for it. The ship with the money drowned before reaching St. Petersburg, but in reality there was no gold on the ship. Everything was abducted by corrupt imperial officials and English partners. Such are the things. Nothing is new in this world ...
  35. iConst
    iConst 20 November 2013 15: 47
    0
    According to Rosneft’s estimates, a total of 2 trillion are contained on the shelf. cubic meters of gas and 1,1 billion tons of oil.

    That's what pleased at Rosneft: for a couple of islands in the Caribbean, the directorate will buy ...
  36. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 20 November 2013 16: 35
    +2
    <<< Hasn't it occurred to someone "at the top" to change the status of the Okhotsk shelf to broad Japanese "access" to the Kuriles - to a kind of "barter" exchange between territories and waters, between statuses and other components in bilateral relations ... >> >
    Absolutely spotted! Surely this explains the unexpected compliance of Japan in the issue of recognizing the shelf of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk as Russian! And wasn’t this what was meant when information about new Russian proposals on the Kuril Islands and the signing of a peace treaty with Japan passed! And our hyper-liberal economists and other Western-oriented figures, of whom there are many "upstairs", who are ready to trade in Russian territory: our Arctic, probably had a hand in this, and some idiots do not mind immediately dividing Russia along the Ural ridge! So all this will be revealed in the near future and it will be VERY sorry if these fears of trade in Russian territories are justified!
  37. Cynic
    Cynic 20 November 2013 16: 41
    0
    In general, recognized as ours about someone else and so was ours. So ska-a-at international recognition that our sea is ours. Hmm grimaces of politics. It’s interesting how the Yusovites will react, their submarines hovering around this sea like a hudson in due time. True, ours were not shy, but ...
  38. sokol52
    sokol52 20 November 2013 16: 43
    0
    Well, actually, according to the constitution, a referendum is necessary when giving away some territory.
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 20 November 2013 18: 32
      0
      No, a referendum is only for changing borders between subjects of the Russian Federation.
  39. anip
    anip 20 November 2013 18: 42
    0
    Quote: Siberian German
    but I kind of remember the seventh grade geography that it’s kind of like the sea belonged to the USSR - or I missed something and now we need to prove that this is our sea - where is the hitch

    The trick was that the USSR was then, and he did not need to prove any rights to the inland Sea of ​​Okhotsk, nor did he need to prove rights to part of the Barents Sea, to Damansky Island and half of Tarabarov, to part of the Bering Sea, for everything that you just gave to anyone.
    Then there was the USSR - and that says it all.
  40. mountain
    mountain 20 November 2013 19: 10
    0
    Just a rebus, not a greeting card.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 20 November 2013 19: 33
      +1
      Quote: mountain
      The trick is that the USSR was then

      Exactly ! USSR keyword!
      Incidentally, it is worth recalling the Arctic borders of the USSR!
  41. observer
    observer 20 November 2013 20: 00
    +1
    when you find out such news, you want to take the flag of Russia and, at a stand, humbly by anthem, perform a military greeting
  42. dengy12
    dengy12 20 November 2013 21: 56
    0
    Quote: iConst
    Quote: Ivanovich47
    In the history of Russia there have already been "benefactors" who have given away Alaska, rich in natural resources, even for a smell of tobacco.

    Not given, but leased. It was then profiled ...

    but where is the guarantee that this does not happen with the Kuril Islands?
  43. baytygan
    baytygan 20 November 2013 22: 48
    0
    the USSR had an ocean fleet and it was stupid to prove the obvious, it was an axiom ...
  44. Evgeny_Lev
    Evgeny_Lev 21 November 2013 10: 59
    0
    And why didn’t anyone suggest that Japan agreed not because of the promises of some islands from the ridge, but because the issue of supplying energy resources extracted in the sea to Yapiya was discussed at exclusive prices? Perhaps even with an exclusive resale right?

    In my opinion, a good game would therefore be played.
    In the future, and in the TS Yap can be taken))
  45. Cynic
    Cynic 21 November 2013 11: 17
    0
    Quote: demel2
    200 miles offshore economic zone,

    I specifically looked, it was in the 72nd such a concept arose, earlier from 3 to 15 miles. USSR as if older.
  46. Hort
    Hort 21 November 2013 11: 23
    0
    perhaps the Japs bargained for a joint development of the shelf and the ability to fish for any quotas, or again together with ours, and therefore did not impede approval at the UN.
    Still, I do not want to think about the islands that they have been exchanged (will be changed) for this recognition ...
    Although there is such an option: if the Japanese suddenly sign a peace treaty with us, we will have to return two islands to them. we set ourselves a "pitchfork" back in 1946 ...
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 21 November 2013 12: 33
      0
      Quote: hort
      we put our own "pitchforks" back in 1946 ...

      Mmm, what are you talking about?
      It seems Nikita Sergeyevich promised this from a gentleman’s shoulder, but this is clearly not the 46th ?!
      1. Hort
        Hort 21 November 2013 22: 22
        0
        Yes, I'm sorry, the 1956 Declaration on ending the war. Wrong.

        An important point of the Declaration was the fate of the South Kuril Islands of Shikotan and Habomai: they should have been transferred to Japan after the signing of the peace treaty. However, in the conditions of the Cold War, the question of this was “hanging in the air”, and the islands remained under the jurisdiction of the USSR.

        Source: http://www.calend.ru/event/4356/
        © Calend.ru
  47. sub307
    sub307 21 November 2013 12: 29
    0
    "I would like to believe that the new, so to speak," conquests "of Russia will benefit the people of Russia (the state treasury), and not only a select few people preparing to receive a part of the huge Okhotsk pie."
    And what, in fact, are the grounds for such rosy hopes that have radically changed since the "dashing privatization" in the God-preserved? It is just, unfortunately, more possible - the benefit will be received by "an exclusively chosen handful of persons". All sorts of "Serdyukovs" and others like them should do something. That we are all well and observe.
  48. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 22 November 2013 00: 59
    0
    I’ll give one more, it seems to me the most real, thought - soon Russia and Japan will sign the world. This is due to the strengthening of China and the weakening of the United States. Well, it's just hard to live next to two monsters in a state of war. And, most likely, Japan will begin the policy of Qatar - you have something to file or where to lick, get ready. bully
    1. Hort
      Hort 22 November 2013 14: 05
      0
      can katana become cheaper)))
      1. iConst
        iConst 22 November 2013 14: 21
        0
        Quote: hort
        can katana become cheaper)))

        What does Japan have to do with it? They have it strictly!

        We have a lot of masters - they’ll bind you cheaply. laughing
        1. Hort
          Hort 24 November 2013 20: 14
          0
          yeah, from Lithuania)))
  49. Sharingan
    Sharingan 25 November 2013 11: 07
    0
    And for the recognition of the Inland Sea, it was precisely the unanimity of the entire commission that was required? If not, then the position of Japan can be ignored and there are no pitfalls to look for. On the contrary, one can even assume that Japan simply did not dare to be the only country voting against recognition.
  50. solovald
    solovald 27 November 2013 09: 50
    0
    "... At one time I had to deal with Japanese subjects and I dare to say that no self-respecting Japanese will ever make any gifts without confidence in his own benefit to anyone. Such a people with their own special mentality, clearly different from ours. .. "

    The "argument" is subjective, intended for the layman.