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The Mujahids of the Afghan War (1979-1989)

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  1. uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 23 November 2013 08: 03
    30
    ) Now these faces are in our construction sites, markets, and in public utilities.
    1. Guun
      Guun 24 November 2013 13: 43
      +6
      Pashtuns? Yes you are a storyteller however ...
      1. Ramadan
        Ramadan 24 November 2013 23: 07
        +7
        I agree. The man simply expressed general dissatisfaction with the southerners, not with photographs.
    2. Denis Akhmedyanov
      Denis Akhmedyanov 3 December 2019 10: 07
      0
      so you sho so you pig-pigs pig-pigs and you do not need it Ukraine .. pig terrorists .. and they work because you are stupid except for how to eat vodka in a T-shirt
  2. Sibiryak
    Sibiryak 23 November 2013 08: 12
    23
    They also fought for their homeland ...

    It is said loudly and I think it is not applicable in this particular situation. And they each had their own Motherland (understanding of its essence), at least the majority ... Now something is not visible how they are fighting for it - the Motherland, and that already says something!
    1. Apostle
      Apostle 23 November 2013 12: 51
      21
      They fought for heroin, for poppy fields .. war for the sake of war .. geeks, to cut the heads of eighteen-year-old boys for fun, "warriors" ..uevs
    2. vlad0
      vlad0 23 November 2013 16: 13
      29
      A month before his death in September 2001, Ahmad Shah Massoud (penultimate photo) said that "the biggest mistake the Afghans made was the war against the Soviet Union."
      The fact is reliable.
      1. Felix200970
        Felix200970 23 November 2013 16: 44
        +3
        Quote: vlad0
        Ahmad Shah Massoud (penultimate photo) said that "the biggest mistake the Afghans made was the war against the Soviet Union."

        I heard another version in which he lamented the fact that he did not let the Soviet army into Panjasher
      2. aleshka
        aleshka 23 November 2013 16: 47
        12
        Ahmad Shah Masoud-MAN AND WARRIOR!
        1. Under
          Under 26 November 2013 06: 16
          0
          Quote: Alesha
          Khmad Shah Masoud-MAN AND WARRIOR!

          and tajik
      3. Yarik
        Yarik 23 November 2013 16: 48
        13
        Masud. The only one of the most popular "field commanders" who was sane. Batya said he served there in counterintelligence, in the DRA in the sense.
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 23 November 2013 16: 55
          10
          And it sounds like that!Democratic Republic of Afghanistan! This is in the community-tribal system
      4. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 23 November 2013 16: 52
        18
        Yes, he said that if they knew what America was carrying, they would never have fought with the UNION. And he equally appreciated who fought with him in the UNION, calling them WARRIORS and rated the amers as rats, killing only civilians, but not able to fight the Warrior.
        1. vlad0
          vlad0 23 November 2013 17: 07
          +4
          Amerov A.Sh. Masud did not see. He died on September 9.09.01, 11.09.01, the attack on New York was September 2001, XNUMX, and the introduction of US troops into Afghanistan began in October XNUMX.
          In those days, the Taliban were his main enemy.
          1. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 23 November 2013 17: 58
            11
            They were raised, fed by the Americans, and no matter who Masud knew, whose money and weapons came to Afghanistan, who helped the Mujahideen, therefore there is no misunderstanding in what he said. The film showed where he said it , and right after that they killed him
            , two Saudi Arab suicide bombers. Who is the master of the Saudis?
        2. randomizer
          randomizer 24 November 2013 01: 48
          +1
          The USSR gave oud, And the United States fish. The USSR did not - the fish did not. There is nothing to catch.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 23 November 2013 08: 22
    41
    If you remove the weapons from the hands of these people, then these are ordinary peasants from God knows what age.
    Afghanistan will remain in feudalism for a long time — these peasants need neither democracy nor communism.
    Let them boil better in their own boiler.
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 23 November 2013 09: 07
      11
      Good morning, Aleksey! hi
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Let them cook better in their own

      But this will not work ... You forgot about heroin fields, and they will protect heroin ...
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 23 November 2013 09: 18
        +7
        Hello Sergey.

        Of course a drug problem exists.

        But it can be solved in the long run, because farmers in AFGHANISTAN did not always grow opiates, they still need to look for a way out.
        1. sergey72
          sergey72 23 November 2013 09: 25
          +4
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          AFGHANISTAN DEHKAN DOESN'T ALWAYS GROW OPIATES

          Yes, not always, I agree ... but now it’s not the 70s and we are not the USSR ... But you need to decide quickly with the Afghans and their patrons ...
        2. vladkavkaz
          vladkavkaz 23 November 2013 16: 53
          +7
          Compare the level of production of drugs during the "occupation" by the Union and the level of DRUGS, during the OCCUPATION of Afgan by all this Western non-human with satellites.
      2. Old scoop
        Old scoop 23 November 2013 10: 17
        18
        They protect not heroin, but what they grew up. They grow it, for which they pay money for which you can buy goods for yourself and your family. Man is not born with horns and hooves. Look at the essence of what is happening wider.
        1. sergey72
          sergey72 23 November 2013 10: 45
          +7
          Quote: Old scoop
          wider.

          While this muck will fall into my country, I do not care about the Afghans and their families .....
          Quote: Old scoop
          Man is not born with horns and hooves.

          And in this particular case, you are wrong - a whole generation has already been born and raised on the cultivation and final production of a "product" .... and none of them is going to change their lives. Serious uncles once explained to them - "heroin is the same struggle with the Soviets, only by other means ...
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 23 November 2013 19: 44
          +2
          Quote: Old scoop
          They protect not heroin, but what they grew up. They grow it, for which they pay money for which you can buy goods for yourself and your family.

          Don’t talk!
          Peaceful farmers cultivate peaceful heroin but are they also indicated?
          It’s not necessary to consider them sheep, everyone there perfectly understands what they are raising.
          1. Guun
            Guun 24 November 2013 13: 46
            +1
            As long as there are people who use heroin, there will be poppy fields. The problem is solved if people refuse this, the key in the hands of young people they can close this infection if properly educated.
  4. George
    George 23 November 2013 09: 08
    +1
    And what kind of stopar in the last picture?
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 23 November 2013 09: 13
      +1
      Probably they used "kishmishevka" .....
      Quote: GEORGE
      And what kind of stopar in the last picture?
  5. makarov
    makarov 23 November 2013 09: 13
    11
    In the photo there are also European faces, which could not have been born in Asia.
    1. sergey72
      sergey72 23 November 2013 09: 17
      +4
      Quote: makarov
      In the photo there are also European faces, which, well, could not be born in Asia

      And you look for a photo of the current Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland Radoslaw Sikorski ...... In the image of a Mujahideen or Savik Schuster, everything will become clear ...
    2. FunkschNNX
      FunkschNNX 23 November 2013 21: 57
      +1
      The majority of the population of Afghanistan are Pashtuns, anthropologically they are Indo-Iranians, i.e. subrace of the EUROPEAN race. They are in Iran, Pakistan and not much in India. Shave them and some even come down for the Slavs.
      1. Fobos-grunt
        Fobos-grunt 24 November 2013 16: 43
        +2
        Since the time of Alexander the Great, it has been noticed that in such “European” eyes as in this “Afghani Jakonda”, Asian hatred may lurk.
  6. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 23 November 2013 09: 53
    +4
    Have faces! How many of our guys put, a bullet cries for them!
    1. Old scoop
      Old scoop 23 November 2013 10: 19
      +5
      Prapor he and in Africa prapor ...
    2. Rus86
      Rus86 25 November 2013 15: 35
      +2
      Ours were not whipping boys, as is sometimes shown on the box, but they quite gave them a light there. another question for what and why, but this is philosophy. Homeland will say NECESSARY and we will go.
  7. Boris55
    Boris55 23 November 2013 10: 16
    11
    The political officers told us: we will not be there - there will be A'mers. And so it happened ...

  8. de bouillon
    de bouillon 23 November 2013 10: 25
    +5
    and what are we minus? wassat

    I am not surprised that the local degenerates who here in different topics suggest supplying weapons to the Taliban against the Americans ..

    time to decide
  9. Stinger
    Stinger 23 November 2013 10: 28
    16
    You can scoff at them as much as you want, but you can't argue against facts. This semi-literate people, having neither armored vehicles, nor aviation, nor heavy weapons, never allowed forces from outside, armed to the teeth, to impose their own order. From the British to the vaunted NATO. It seems that this cannot be explained either by their "terrible faces", as some put it, or by their commitment to terrorism. No need to teach anyone to live with a stick, they will figure it out themselves.
    1. sevtrash
      sevtrash 23 November 2013 10: 53
      +6
      The USSR had the opportunity to solve the problem in Afghanistan, and the USA has it - acting extremely tough. It is clear that neither the USSR nor the USA could allow this. Stalin behind the Iron Curtain would have solved such a problem unambiguously.
      1. Guun
        Guun 24 November 2013 13: 50
        0
        Destroying the entire population of nuclear weapons? There is no way to do without WMD - there are mountains and caves all around, there are even entire cities inside the mountains.
  10. Day 11
    Day 11 23 November 2013 10: 45
    +4
    Interesting pictures. Cupcake glasses are cool (a la Elvis). And how do you like a grenade launcher on a bipod?
  11. sergey72
    sergey72 23 November 2013 10: 52
    +5
    Quote: Den 11
    .A how do you grenade launcher on the bipod?
    This is the Soviet RPG-7D - full-time bipod.
    1. Lee
      Lee 24 November 2013 02: 34
      0
      Chinese copy of RPG-7.
  12. sergey72
    sergey72 23 November 2013 10: 59
    0
    Pay attention to photo4, the last right with your head uncovered ..
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 23 November 2013 11: 07
      +2
      Instructor? Maybe he has a dude with 6 photos cut his shirt with straps?
  13. Day 11
    Day 11 23 November 2013 11: 03
    +4
    In the penultimate photo, Ahmad Shah Masood? A worthy enemy ... was
  14. Strashila
    Strashila 23 November 2013 11: 15
    0
    For the most part, they fought not for their homeland ... but for dollars, they continue to do the same now ... including Syria ... remove sponsors and then Peace will come there.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 23 November 2013 11: 27
      +4
      And they also fought with the British for dollars?
      1. makarov
        makarov 23 November 2013 13: 58
        +2
        No, with the British for the Tugriks, or Yuan
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 23 November 2013 14: 01
          +1
          OK. Wrong expression. Saturday ...
    2. Guun
      Guun 24 November 2013 13: 52
      0
      Taliban to Syria? Or al-Qaeda shtatovskaya? The Taliban themselves have never heard and never transmitted that they were fighting in Syria, they would have fought - they would have told that they were fighting against Assad. And you are mistaken - they fought for their homeland, the same British or Americans could bribe a hundred times, by a bribe were bought units of small princes. The USSR also bought princes so that they would not touch the columns, but again not all were bought - only feudal lords.
  15. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 23 November 2013 11: 46
    12
    They fought ... But only against our soldiers ... Of course, over the years, emotions have calmed down, and the hostility towards the Afghan mujahideen has decreased, and the selection is not bad and interesting to me personally (for which "+" in the author's piggy bank), and the ones shown in the photo personalities are expressive and colorful, and it seems like you need to respect your enemy, and you need to know history as it is - without any embellishments and sayings, but ...
    I would really not like that in 20-30 years a collection of the type "Chechen fighters (1994-1996) appears on the pages of the site ... Although, you need to know this too ... And remember who your enemy is ..."
    Here are such conflicting feelings ...
  16. nnz226
    nnz226 23 November 2013 13: 27
    +2
    They fought for their homeland, the Shuravi left ... So what? now the Americans are sherud there, and these Mujahideen are tearing their hair in all places, wishing that they had expelled the Russians building hospitals, houses and factories for them.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 23 November 2013 13: 38
      +9
      Yes, they do not regret leaving the Russians. They do not need the "infidels". Hospitals, houses, factories may be needed, but the "infidels" are not needed! They drove the Russians out, and the Yankees will also leave. Fact
      1. 0255
        0255 23 November 2013 14: 13
        +3
        Quote: nnz226
        They fought for their homeland, the Shuravi left ... So what? now the Americans are sherud there, and these Mujahideen are tearing their hair in all places, wishing that they had expelled the Russians building hospitals, houses and factories for them.

        Quote: Den 11
        Yes, they do not regret leaving the Russians. They do not need the "infidels". Hospitals, houses, factories may be needed, but the "infidels" are not needed! They drove the Russians out, and the Yankees will also leave. Fact

        I will answer with a link:
        http://topwar.ru/34015-afgan-proshloe-i-nastoyaschee.html
        I don't know if the USSR needed to fight in Afghanistan, but many Afghans remember the Soviet "occupation" well. NATO is clearly not going to teach or treat the mujahideen.
      2. Strashila
        Strashila 23 November 2013 15: 28
        +4
        Everyone will leave ... and as they continued to fight, they will continue.
        They fought before the Soviet troops were brought in, fought among themselves after his withdrawal, they will fight after the Americans left ... as long as there are sponsors of this war, they will continue to slaughter each other ... then they are against infidels, then against their own ... not so turban tied.
        Arab sheikhs will sponsor this slaughter for another hundred years ... only so that the Central Asian hydrocarbons do not go through pipelines to Southeast Asia.
    2. Stasi
      Stasi 23 November 2013 15: 43
      +2
      Soviet soldiers, in spite of everything, earned respect for their fighting qualities, unlike the Americans. And the Mujahideen should fight the Westerners as they fought with the Soviet troops. But they do not do this, do not unleash a war against the amers according to the Soviet scenario.
      1. Strashila
        Strashila 23 November 2013 16: 07
        +1
        How they will fight against their employer.
      2. 0255
        0255 23 November 2013 17: 48
        0
        Quote: Strashila
        Everyone will leave ... and as they continued to fight, they will continue.
        They fought before the Soviet troops were brought in, fought among themselves after his withdrawal, they will fight after the Americans left ... as long as there are sponsors of this war, they will continue to slaughter each other ... then they are against infidels, then against their own ... not so turban tied.
        Arab sheikhs will sponsor this slaughter for another hundred years ... only so that the Central Asian hydrocarbons do not go through pipelines to Southeast Asia.

        Quote: Stasi
        Soviet soldiers, in spite of everything, earned respect for their fighting qualities, unlike the Americans. And the Mujahideen should fight the Westerners as they fought with the Soviet troops. But they do not do this, do not unleash a war against the amers according to the Soviet scenario.

        I would have generally taken away firearms and even piercing and cutting objects from them.
        1. Orang
          Orang 24 November 2013 20: 52
          0
          It will be difficult, easier to kill them all, but only we need it? Leave them with themselves, let them live, as they know, only they do not climb to us.
      3. Guun
        Guun 24 November 2013 14: 01
        +2
        Quote: Stasi
        But they do not do this, do not unleash a war against the amers according to the Soviet scenario.

        Are you sure? They are fighting like that - the pro-Western media is blocking everything, it’s easy to buy a video disc where the Americans are ambushed by various types. I saw the video (it was on YouTube - then deleted) and left the link on the site as 40 or 50 marines ambushed in the mountains, only 7 mujahideen died as cowards - stretch marks were in shelters where the Americans climbed to hide and the snipers finished off the rest. Fighting PMCs, mercenaries and those who wish Yusei citizenship are fighting there. And what a sabotage-subversive school the Taliban have - learning is not bad. Yes, and they do not climb into NATO bases in the open because they are not fools.
  17. Technologist
    Technologist 23 November 2013 13: 38
    0
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Let them boil better in their own boiler.


    That's just the point, they can’t, we left, they climbed into Tajikistan, the Americans leave - the same thing starts. Boring them live.
    1. Alex Bugur
      Alex Bugur 25 November 2013 12: 12
      +1
      Then the mattress covers "face" told them, so they climbed.
  18. Lazy cat
    Lazy cat 23 November 2013 14: 48
    +2
    Stupid, uneducated people.
  19. DOMINO
    DOMINO 23 November 2013 15: 45
    +9
    no, guys ... They just don’t fight for dollars alone, they would have been blown away long ago. Of course, the money side also takes place here (I do not exclude that this is the prerogative of the militants sent from over the hill, and not local ones), but not without success to fight for 30 years in a row in your impoverished country with high-tech armies of superpowers - for me personally, a weighty argument, that not everything is so simple and unambiguous with these people, and that there are things of a higher order, spiritual ones. In history, such examples are rare (in terms of scale, perhaps, this is Vietnam, and in terms of meaning - the Scots, Tuaregs, Chechens during the Great Caucasian 19th century ...). In addition, for myself, I put the Afghans on a par with the Russians in terms of their disobedience. Maybe they were conquered, like Russia, but they did not submit to either the Mongol-Tatars, or Alexander, or the British, or the USSR, or the United States ... Therefore, I do not consider it acceptable to indiscriminately call the Afghans (Pashtuns) monkeys / Papuans. some muzzles, etc. - this is the lot of indoor "warriors-patriots", lovers of slogans "Yes, we will throw our hats!" ... This is usually the price of unfounded prejudice and underestimation, disrespect for the enemy.
  20. Ascetic
    Ascetic 23 November 2013 15: 46
    22
    Just tell the fate of one of our soldiers. Almost my peer and served almost there and at the same time.

    In early January 1981, Viktor Gryaznov and warrant officer Valentin Yarosh were given the task of going to the city of Puli-Khumri to a military warehouse to receive cargo. A few days later they set off on the return trip. But on the way, the convoy was attacked by dushmans. The truck, which was driven by Gryaznov, failed, and then he and Valentin Yarosh took up arms. The battle lasted for half an hour ... Then the body of the ensign was found not far from the place of the battle, with a broken head and eyes cut out. But Victor, the dushmans dragged away with them. What happened to him later is evidenced by a certificate sent to Kazakhstani journalists on their official request from Afghanistan:

    “In early 1981, Mujahideen of the detachment Abdul Razad Askhakzai was captured by the Shuravi (Soviet) during the battle with the infidels, he was called Gryaznov Viktor Ivanovich. He was invited to become an Orthodox Muslim, Mujahideen, defender of Islam, to participate in ghazavat - a holy war - with unfaithful infidels. Gryaznov refused to become a true believer and destroy shuravi. The verdict of the Sharia court Gryaznov was sentenced to death penalty - red tulip, the sentence was carried out. "


    Now what is red tulip the doomed person, having entered into unconsciousness with a large dose of the drug, was hung up by the hands. Then the skin was cut around the whole body and wrapped up. When the action of the dope ended, the condemned, having experienced severe pain shock, first went crazy, and then slowly died ...
    And let everyone think now who and how and for what he fought. Victor Gryaznov made a real feat, refusing to go on betrayal and accepting a fierce death. One can only guess how many more of our guys in Afghanistan have committed the same heroic acts, which, unfortunately, still remain unknown.
    This death is not on the world, and therefore not red. But the vile thought of pleading for mercy does not gnaw. There is only hatred for those who, having smoked drugs, will now begin to rip off your skin, anticipating the bestial pleasure from your inhuman torment. There is only a belief that those who sent you here will not leave your loved ones and relatives unattended. There is only hope that the Homeland will not dare to forget you and will reward it as it deserves. Holy church! Remember in your prayers the servant of God Victor, who did not allow mockery of the Orthodox faith!

    GRYAZNOV VIKTOR IVANOVICH - Private, military unit 77926. He was called Temirtau GVK 08.05.1979/12.02.1981/XNUMX. Missing while carrying out a combat mission, showing heroism and courage XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
    The photo of the military ticket was taken from the Dushman magazine as a result of the crack of the Kandahar greenhouse.
    That's about whom you need to write and write, and not about stoned fighters for the homeland.
    1. DOMINO
      DOMINO 23 November 2013 16: 15
      +1
      Ascetic, So they would write, who was stopping you? All these feats of self-sacrifice, undoubtedly, are worthy of the deepest respect, but in no way diminish similar feats from the opposing side. Or did we not smoke weed in Afghanistan? Then you can also use your epithet "stoned (drunk) fighters for the Motherland" to them, and cases of self-sacrifice were numerous among the Afghans, and they can also be cited. The title of the photo-article is NOT ABOUT THIS ... We were given a shortcut in Afghanistan - and this is a fact that should not be forgotten. A lesson must be learned from it for the future ...
    2. Day 11
      Day 11 23 November 2013 16: 26
      -4
      Why write this? The article is not about that. Indians in America also shot live scalps
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  22. Walking
    Walking 23 November 2013 16: 41
    +3
    Good selection
  23. biglow
    biglow 23 November 2013 18: 12
    +3
    they were lucky that the Soviet Union entered Afghanistan with just one army, with a full-scale war these peasants would have no chance of victory. The loss ratio of our soldiers and Afghans was 1k 100, the war lasted another 10 years and there would be no inhabitants or at least men capable of fighting there ....
    1. biglow
      biglow 23 November 2013 18: 57
      +6
      Quote: biglow
      they were lucky that the Soviet Union entered Afghanistan with just one army, with a full-scale war these peasants would have no chance of victory. The loss ratio of our soldiers and Afghans was 1k 100, the war lasted another 10 years and there would be no inhabitants or at least men capable of fighting there ....

      what’s the minus point, in a full-scale war, any partisans are quickly destroyed, because they are blocked, they will be scattered from food by blocking settlements ... mining passes and paths ... There is nothing other than dope in Afghanistan and therefore the locals had no chance to find out what such a real war, from here these legends go that Afghanistan cannot be conquered ... The Japanese also thought that they could not be defeated ...
      1. M. Peter
        M. Peter 24 November 2013 15: 26
        +1
        I completely agree, if there were no looking back at all sorts of rights and the like, all sorts of mandates and whatever else, then all of Afghanistan would be rolled out, it was not fucking pissing over there. Ditch so many people and all in vain.
  24. Keeper
    Keeper 23 November 2013 18: 20
    +3
    As in one of the articles they wrote about drones and angry villages in which these drones destroyed civilians. Still, how despicable and low it is when they destroy loved ones, and then hand over the weapon and point at the "enemy", who in most cases is not at all to blame! After all, many of the Mujahideen took up arms not because of some idea, but only because of the loss of loved ones.
    And the fact that they grow poppy and other nonsense in their homeland - this is their business - we need to introduce the death penalty for all traders and the problems in the country with drugs will be in last place! Let all these mujahideen in their country in Afghanistan be stoned in the trash ... with the Americans ....
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 23 November 2013 18: 57
      0
      Quote: Keeper
      Indeed, many of the Mujahideen took up arms not because of some idea, but only because of the loss of loved ones.
      Are you talking about without the ideological Taliban now?
      Or maybe you know who first killed the relatives of the first majahid who began to take revenge?
      Quote: Keeper
      And the fact that they grow poppy and other nonsense at home is their business
      Behind all the drugs of the world, the Queen of England has stood since the time of the Opium Wars in China ...
      Quote: Keeper
      it is necessary for all merchants to introduce the death penalty and the problems in the country with drugs will come in last place!
      Drugs are the fifth priority of common controls. Fighting him with force on the sixth priority is futile. You can mute, but not win.
      Quote: Keeper
      Let all these mujahideen in their country in Afghanistan be stoned in the trash ... with the Americans ....
      Although I have a negative attitude towards the politics of the Ame'rs, there are many pale-faced among them, and the number of pale-faced people on earth is rapidly decreasing ...
      1. Guun
        Guun 24 November 2013 14: 11
        0
        Quote: Boris55
        and the number of pale faces on the earth is rapidly declining ...

        And then peace will finally come on earth? After all, the pale-faced ones themselves introduced the LGBT law and vehemently distribute it to those to whom it is foreign to the gay people themselves - this is the reason for extinction!
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 24 November 2013 14: 30
          -1
          Those who introduced pida'ras'nya just want to quickly get rid of the pale-faced as a species that is not capable of becoming good slaves.
          To Hitler's words: "For the Slavs, no hygiene, only vodka and tobacco!" added more perversions leading to the fastest self-destruction.
          Under the prevailing biblical concept of war, they will never end.
          1. Guun
            Guun 24 November 2013 21: 59
            0
            War will be for the time being of humanity.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 25 November 2013 09: 57
              -1
              Quote: Guun
              War will be for the time being of humanity.


              The war will continue to be dominated by the biblical concept - divide, bleed and dominate.
              When changing the concept to a fair one, the need for wars will disappear.
              http://www.kpe.ru/partiya/programma/3622-programm
  25. Black
    Black 23 November 2013 18: 34
    +3
    God apparently forgot about this people. Toil him long and immensely. From1979 to 1989 they had a chance to become a civilization. And they ripped open the bellies of our boys and stuffed it with their filthy earth ...
  26. waisson
    waisson 23 November 2013 19: 14
    0
    the people who are forgotten by Alah can be seen he does not need
    1. waisson
      waisson 23 November 2013 19: 16
      0
      although one know well lives in our cities adopted civilization has become a major trader
  27. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 23 November 2013 19: 41
    0
    What to do if Karmal introduces a fee for the use of water from irrigation canals in a country where this is not provided for by tradition. Ours were held hostage by fools.
  28. alone
    alone 23 November 2013 19: 55
    +2
    Afghans want to live according to their own laws. They do not need "shuravi, not Americans, not Europeans. Any attempt to force them to live differently will end in war. Moreover, it is easiest to capture this country, but no one has yet been able to keep them. The fact remains."
    1. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 23 November 2013 20: 58
      0
      In fact, Afghanistan is only a matter of prestige but no benefit. The usual Islamic Middle Ages.
      1. Rus86
        Rus86 26 November 2013 06: 11
        0
        as well as large deposits of rather rare-earth elements of the periodic table. and how I read points for monitoring, when placing a radar and the like
    2. Prometey
      Prometey 23 November 2013 22: 09
      +1
      Quote: lonely
      Moreover, it is easiest to capture this country, but no one has managed to hold onto it yet. The fact remains.

      Because probably nobody really needed it. The USSR only supported the pro-Soviet regime there, and did not make 16 republic of Afghanistan.
      1. alone
        alone 23 November 2013 22: 14
        +1
        Quote: Prometey
        Because probably nobody really needed it. The USSR only supported the pro-Soviet regime there, and did not make 16 republic of Afghanistan.


        and it was impossible to do this. Remember the official formulation of the introduction of troops into Afghanistan? the provision of international assistance to the people of Afghanistan. The communist system was a foreign idea for the Afghans. They did not understand him. And they do not understand. They have their own understandings about their lives.
        1. Prometey
          Prometey 25 November 2013 19: 02
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          Quote: lonely
          Remember the official wording of the introduction of troops in Afghanistan? international assistance to the people of afghanistan

          The senile leadership of the USSR always carried nonsense, instead of calling a spade a spade.
  29. alert_timka
    alert_timka 23 November 2013 22: 01
    +2
    I don’t understand, when they start to write about Afghanistan, they immediately frighten me with an influx of drugs. I always have a question, but what are the border guards, various anti-drug services, special services that know everything and everyone, the leading powers endowed with considerable funds, budget and human resources to fight, take off precisely at the border and inside your country?
    1. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 23 November 2013 22: 45
      +1
      The border guards smuggle heroin on their own, although not as in the 90s on themselves, now they use the "I'm a little horse" from the locals. smile
      1. shchukin
        shchukin 25 November 2013 12: 55
        -1
        Sorry for the modest question. Have you seen the border guards taking drugs?
  30. alert_timka
    alert_timka 23 November 2013 22: 03
    +2
    and yes, it’s their land and so we don’t say here, they fought for their land in their own way
  31. Igarr
    Igarr 23 November 2013 22: 15
    +1
    Everything is strange ....
    In the pictures, perfumes are just crazy about the hopelessness of the boys, men ....
    you need to know the influence of the local ummah to talk about stoned, sadists or something else.
    For example, I saw a couple of .... Cossacks, in our understanding. Which war is high. The rest are fighting from hopelessness. Or because they were told that.
    And all the cruelties ..... so the war .... what else can I say.
    "Red Tulip", "Colombian Tie", "Girl" ... a game for two ... there is nothing particularly cruel here, nothing particularly savage here.
    ....
    One insult ....
    We could make Afghanistan ours. As always, there was no will. The leadership.
    .
    And now it's too late.
    Russia has not two problems - fools and roads. One. But significant.
    Slobbery leadership - called.
    .
    And those who are led by the slobber - do not cause respect.
    And all business.
  32. valerei
    valerei 23 November 2013 22: 40
    +6
    What the hell did the USSR get into Afghanistan at all? The morons from the Politburo decided to fight and sent our guys to a war that we absolutely did not need and they wanted to spit on the many thousands of dead and crippled guys. And how much money, provisions and other material values ​​disappeared in Afghanistan that would be useful to us ourselves. It is likely that this war was the very "last straw that broke the camel's back." And I, in the early eighties, saw a neighbor, a guy of 20 years old, who came from Afgan without both legs and what the USSR gave him for a completely crippled life? A wheelchair, which his mother could hardly remove from their "Khrushchevs" on the outskirts of Saratov, a pitiful "Zaporozhets" and permission to install an iron garage in the yard at their own expense. Live and enjoy boy! And the mother will die (or maybe she has already died) and where should he go? What is it for him? Who and what will those who spit saliva on this site about "mujahideen mugs" say to him? And our army went there and killed and maimed hundreds of thousands or millions of Afghans, so what? them our soldiers passionately kiss for it? Now imagine that it was the Afghans who came to us and began to kill us and we sucked them in for it. So, as they say, "don't la-la." And then look, what warlike ones were found. And you take the machine gun there, and then tell us your impressions, if you return alive.
    1. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 23 November 2013 23: 50
      +3
      If you notice, Russia always loses an unjust war.
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  34. Fobos-grunt
    Fobos-grunt 24 November 2013 16: 27
    -2
    There is no doubt that Russia will still have to return to Afghanistan. - This is a matter of time. But the main thing is to prevent our people from falling into the Hell of Afghan captivity again.
  35. svp67
    svp67 24 November 2013 16: 31
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    Enemy opinion
  36. 7ydmco
    7ydmco 24 November 2013 17: 40
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    Well, yes, and in Syria, now, nonhumans are also fighting for their homeland, the world caliphate
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  37. propolsky
    propolsky 24 November 2013 18: 43
    +1
    It's hard now to say how many guys were killed "across the river", and this is the work of the above, including, but the primary source was politics, decisions of the superiors of this world. Some were sent with an orchestra to fight world imperialism, which is trying to put a knife to the throat of our Motherland, while others are even simpler - a war with the infidels (those who helped the same people in the national economy, military sphere, etc.) for the true faith. .. Politics made war, and war is like war: blood, dirt and the memory of friends who flew away before demobilization. As for Shah Massoud, he is a worthy man and son of his people, with whom it is possible and necessary to resolve all issues. Stupidity or undercover intrigues did not allow to do this.
    1. Fobos-grunt
      Fobos-grunt 25 November 2013 08: 20
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      During the Afghan war against the USSR, people came together who, to put it mildly, were not friends with each other. “ Muslim Brothers ”- from the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia funded the war. Weapon supplied Shiite Iran. In addition, Mujahideen came to the rescue ... even Indian Sikhs from the terrorist organization HALSA DAL - in revenge for the friendship of the USSR with the government of Indira Gandhi.
      Today, NATO and the United States fell into the trap that was prepared for the Soviet Union
      There cannot be a single leader in Afghanistan! Masoud’s fate is proof of this.
  38. Archibald
    Archibald 24 November 2013 19: 11
    +1
    It’s not clear why, too? They are precisely the ones who fought for their homeland.
  39. Alexandr0id
    Alexandr0id 24 November 2013 20: 51
    0
    what do you mean "also fought for their homeland"? besides them, was there anyone else who fought for their homeland? what then, what is now neither for the USSR nor for the United States, Afghanistan posed no threat.
  40. robinson
    robinson 24 November 2013 21: 01
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    Quote: Ascetic
    fierce death

    We had a teapot in our company, each stupid bacha received a teapot, the most stupid ones received a teapot spout. The teapot was carried on top of the armor, the young substitute asked what was on the teapot’s nose, then he vomited for a long time. With all this, we threatened to send our prisoners to intelligence (they were really afraid) that they didn’t even want to think there.
    There was much more, cruelty is war. Well, fuck her. And it’s dishonest to highlight individual moments from either side.
    PS: by the way, "ugorezy" still went from there, by the way with a certain positive moment. Although what is positive about that?
  41. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 24 November 2013 23: 36
    +1
    Wash-shave-many for the Russian would pass. And what about the deep cartoons of the Basmachi?
  42. Kostya pedestrian
    Kostya pedestrian 25 November 2013 06: 05
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    Question for whose? For the great Ottoman Empire? Well, why is there no Afghan in the reign of the same German MAN?

    So there are more questions than answers. There was no doubt that the USSR was not going to integrate Afghanistan, as well as that there was no drug addiction problem in the USSR! So they were beautifully bred on the German or Japanese futures exchange, as well as the same internationalist wars.

    So whether they defended their home is a question. Nevertheless, our Belarusian partisans reunited with the regular Red Army, and finished off the German beast in its hole.

    And Afghanistan, as it is not sad, only prepared the conditions for Chechen fighters and al-Qaida, who have nothing to do with life, if you recall their relationship with women, they did not go far from the catalytic casthuk as their idol, which makes their men wait groom, otherwise they will not experience paradise as soon as through the anus. This is why Abwehr is so sophisticated in organizing a war. They have everything through the anus.

    And in our foreheads, even flanking is much more efficient. Well, sometimes it’s nice to hit the forehead, for example, on the pork snout of the Teutons.
  43. Fobos-grunt
    Fobos-grunt 25 November 2013 09: 17
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    Quote: vladkavkaz
    Compare the level of production of drugs during the "occupation" by the Union and the level of DRUGS, during the OCCUPATION of Afgan by all this Western non-human with satellites.

    Under the Taliban who instigated asceticism, at first they delivered the most necessary things to Afghanistan - only
    weapons food and medicine. Money for this is not necessary. The advent of the United States and the Coalition forces led to liberalization of relations and an increase in the standard of living of ordinary Afghans. This growth is achieved by strengthening DRUG TRAFFIC
    Americans and allies support NARCO JIHAT against Russia. - for them it is "pleasant and useful"