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"Living dead" in the United States: stole a jacket - sit for life

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The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is a non-profit organization founded in 1920 and aimed at protecting the rights and freedoms guaranteed by the constitution and laws. ACLU is the largest American non-governmental organization active in the field of the protection of citizens' rights.




The other day on the website of the organization was published a report on the "living dead" - people who not only went to jail in the United States, but sat there for life.

The report called the number - 3278 people. According to human rights activists, these are people who have committed non-violent crimes - for example, petty theft - and received life sentences without the right to appeal.

Many of these “living dead”, committing crimes, were prone to mental illness, suffered from drug addiction or simply in poverty. None of them will go home to their parents and children, the authors write. And taxpayers spend billions of dollars to keep all these people behind bars.

According to the ACLU, 22-year-old Patrick Matthews was arrested for stealing tools and a welding machine. According to American law, he received a life sentence for this - only because at seventeen he committed burglary (without being armed). Patrick has no criminal storiesrelated to violence. One of the judges who reviewed Patrick’s appeal said that he did not “consider that the mandatory punishment of this 22-year-old guy contributes to the achievement of the goals of justice”. Patrick himself says: "I never would have thought that this could happen." And he adds: "Once I made a mistake, and they equated me with a murderer."

Teresa Griffin was sentenced for her first offense. She was 26 years old, and she was seven months pregnant when the police detained her with 38500 dollars in cash belonging to her boyfriend and half a pound of his own cocaine. According to Griffin, her ex-boyfriend hit her and threatened her with death. Because of jealousy, he forbade her to go to school or to work. Teresa told me that a friend used her as a mule to transport drugs along the Texas-Oklahoma route. She took cash from the sale of drugs. Griffin (who is 47 years old now) has already been imprisoned for 22. She says: "I understand: I did something wrong, but this is not enough to take away my life."

Anthony Jerome Jackson has six classes of education. He worked as a cook. When he was 44 of the year, he stole a wallet from the Myrtle Beach hotel room. Police arrested him when he tried to use a stolen credit card. Due to his two previous convictions for burglary, Jackson was sentenced to life imprisonment without the right to parole.

Stephanie Yvette George - 23-year-old single mother. Police found drugs hidden in a safe in the attic of her house. The judge did not want to pass a harsh sentence, but his hands were tied due to Stephanie's previous convictions for petty offenses.

Sharanda Parlett Jones was sentenced to life imprisonment without parole to spread cocaine by criminal conspiracy. The charge was almost entirely built on the testimony of accomplices, who thereby reduced their sentences. In the case of a conspiracy, 105 people were arrested. In addition to a telephone call, in which two government informants participated, there was no evidence against her incriminating her in a criminal drug dealer conspiracy. This woman has been serving more than 14 for years. She carefully allocates 300 minutes for her monthly calls, trying to talk to her daughter for 10 minutes every day. Her daughter is now 22, and was nine years old when her mother was imprisoned.

Timothy Jackson is also serving a life sentence without parole. This man stole a jacket in the store for 159 dollars.

The theft was committed at a New Orleans department store in 1996. At that time, for the crime of Jackson, if it was committed for the first time, they gave 2 of the year, and now they give only six months. However, the court sentenced Jackson to life. The fact is that twenty years ago, while still a minor, Timothy was convicted of robbery without weapons and two carjacking without aggravating circumstances.

Jackson already 16 years languishing in prison. “They put me as if for murder. They have people who have received shorter terms for killing than I, ”says Jackson.

"Jacket for 159 dollars! Tell me someone that I can get for this life, I would not believe him. "


According to human rights defenders from the ACLU, the total financial savings of taxpayers in the event of a review of sentences for non-violent crimes will be at least 1.784.000.000 $. According to the estimates of the American Civil Liberties Union, only the federal penitentiary system will save more than 1,2 billion dollars. But the calculation for one person: for example, the life of a prisoner in Louisiana for one prisoner who has committed a non-violent crime will cost the state taxpayers about half a million dollars.

Recall that currently the United States leads the world in the number of prisoners: 730 per 100.000 residents (data from the International Prison Research Center, ICPS). There are about 2,2 million people in US prisons.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. timhelmet
    timhelmet 19 November 2013 08: 07 New
    15
    I would call them "United States of Sheep"
    All countries are full of insanity, but so ...
    There, after all, children with toy pistols are also kicked out of kindergartens (for life) fool )
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 November 2013 08: 14 New
      36
      When he was 44 years old, he abducted a boo. Because of two previous convictions for burglary, Jackson was sentenced to life imprisonment without the right to parole ..

      Timothy Jackson is also serving a life sentence without parole. This man stole a jacket in the store for 159 dollars.

      Au Obama, that you blather about the harsh sentence for Pusek.
      1. My address
        My address 19 November 2013 08: 28 New
        23
        Alexander!

        It remains to recall only the words of Vovochka from the anecdote: "And they still condemn me for picking my nose with my finger!" hi
        1. abdrah
          abdrah 20 November 2013 04: 02 New
          +3
          That’s how it is, but some people still remember the law on spikelets ...
      2. Scoun
        Scoun 19 November 2013 12: 19 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Au Obama, what are you blathering about a harsh sentence

        and the last sentence in the article ... finishes.
        Jackson has been languishing in prison for 16 years. "I was put as if for a murder. They have people who got shorter sentences for the killings, than me, ”Jackson says.
      3. V. Salama
        V. Salama 20 November 2013 05: 02 New
        -4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Au Obama, what are you blathering about the harsh sentence for Pusek
        For me personally, Obama’s opinion on the drum in general is what else to expect from them - lies, slander, a double standard from Soviet times. Pusek actions must be absolutely punishable. But they were treated no less strange than with a stolen jacket for 159 bucks. Firstly, the inadequacy of punishment for their deeds. It is believed that there is no such quality that could not be expressed by number. At present, money is the measure of any damage (material, moral). At least from these positions, relying on judicial practice, they would have determined the punishment - perplexity would not have arisen. Secondly, they were planted under an article which at the time of their landing was formulated so that it was impossible to plant them under this article.
        Here that Puski, that "jacket" are two sides of the same insanity, and it is quite possible for us to evolve the judicial system to the level of the States with this approach.
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 20 November 2013 15: 52 New
          +2
          Quote: V. Salama
          Firstly, the inadequacy of punishment for their deeds. It is believed that there is no such quality that could not be expressed by number. At present, money is the measure of any damage (material, moral).

          I'm afraid you simply do not understand the expression "insulting the feelings of believers." Imagine that someone very close to you has died. Before the funeral, it is customary to keep the doors to the apartment where the deceased lies open. And now, some puski, using the free entrance, would burst into the apartment and began to dance over the body of the deceased, shouting some nonsense, advertising, say, dietary supplements (they say, the deceased would have taken them, he would have stayed alive). Would you also argue that for them a few years for a hooligan is an inadequate punishment, since no one got money? Or would they still open their heads to someone who wonders why they are sick?
          1. V. Salama
            V. Salama 21 November 2013 12: 39 New
            0
            Quote: Stanislav
            I'm afraid you simply do not understand the expression "insulting the feelings of believers."
            You only do not affirm for all believers. There are Orthodox priests who expressed regret about this - it is not Christian, and not far-sighted, I would even say stupidly, to the point of impossibility. Following your own logic, this dog, whose life was broken (I hope you understand what a prison is), will come out of it (if the authorities aren’t smart enough), get around, trample your brain with the speeches of well-wishers and, in the end, will return to the temple , but not with a guitar, but with a martyr’s belt. And it will be your fault and those who believe that the grief of a thousand mothers is worse than the grief of one mother. It is worse for other people, but not for each individual mother, here the laws of arithmetic do not apply.
            Quote: Stanislav
            And so, some snacks, using the free entrance, would have burst into the apartment and began to dance over the body of the deceased, shouting some nonsense ...

            Do you really not understand that dogs and jackets are just signs of an abnormality in society. In the United States, it’s at least insanity under the Law, and in our country there is an outrage. But abnormal methods of a normal society cannot be brought up. Not from this, at least. In normal society, the worst punishment in such cases is public censure.
            Yes, open your eyes, finally - “using the free entrance, they would have burst into the apartment and began to dance over the body of the deceased” - this is everywhere. Well, you see that you have an apartment through the courtyard, almost encouraging the brainless, and then bang - offended by the sacred. Take K. Sobchak, what did she say about the plane crash in Kazan? Your “fair and harsh” punishment of the dogs, which any propagandist veteran could handle in a week of forced lectures with their demonstration on television, greatly affected her. They wouldn’t be able to see after that - it would be dumb to look at themselves in the mirror. Would turn to the Communist Party for help - would find, I think, a combat shot. Remember the old joke:
            At the international horror film competition, the third place was taken by the film Godzilla (Japan), the second - Living Dead (USA). The first place was taken by a film from the USSR entitled “How I Lost a Party Ticket”.
          2. V. Salama
            V. Salama 21 November 2013 12: 41 New
            0
            Quote: Stanislav
            You would also argue that for them a few years for a hooligan is an inadequate punishment, since no one got the money?
            I started talking about money because many of them have gone crazy now, and we need to speak with people in a language that they understand. But they only love money, and what money does not understand. The severity of guilt is determined by the degree of social danger (danger is the possibility of damage). Well, there’s no reason to pull it under a “firing squad” article if this is such a damage to the nation (as it was under Article 58 for robbers of socialist property on a particularly large scale at one time) or if such sums were brought up - all the opposition would remain without pants.
            Quote: Stanislav
            Or would they cut the head off to someone who wonders what it is for them, sickly?
            And you ask yourself the question: “Why doesn’t anyone break into the apartment to dance over the body of the deceased”? I think you’ll guess, there are a lot of hints here.
            I just don’t understand one thing, why you were indignant (I hope that I wasn’t mistaken) when they cut the “head” for believing in the victory of communism (idea, insulting the feelings of believers) and don’t be indignant now when thousands of old people mock this faith still alive and gave their whole life to the system, your damn bright future. They would have given them to die calmly at first, they are not to blame for believing.
      4. Basarev
        Basarev 20 November 2013 16: 27 New
        0
        So believe after that the tales of the "bloody Putin regime."
    2. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 19 November 2013 08: 24 New
      10
      Quote: timhelmet
      but so ...

      They need labor camps, something similar the Nazis had. Lifetime slave gives a constant profit. So everything is simple.
      1. kotdavin4i
        kotdavin4i 19 November 2013 09: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Lifetime slave gives a constant profit.

        Cheerful day Maxim, so they have and since you say: http://tyurma.com/tyurma-za-rubezhom/sekrety-amerikanskogo-gulaga - Here read at your leisure ... hi
      2. Averias
        Averias 19 November 2013 12: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        Lifetime slave gives constant profit


        To the very point. They have (USA), almost all prisons are private. And the labor of prisoners is used to its fullest (road construction, field work, etc., etc. Any place where cheap physical labor is required). It’s only in the cinema that they (the prisoners) are only preoccupied with swinging to stupor, at the sites they are yanking and ramming with each other. They plow, plow like slaves. For proforma, they have accounts, they even drip some money. Only they do not see them, since they go to cover certain expenses.
    3. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 19 November 2013 10: 14 New
      +9
      only one phrase came to mind - long live the Soviet court, the fairest court in the world ...
      1. Krasnoarmeec
        Krasnoarmeec 19 November 2013 11: 26 New
        +5
        In the topic, I advise you to read at your leisure:

        American Gulag: five years on star-striped bunks
        Author Starostin Dmitry
        Genre of counterculture, biographies and memoirs.

        So to speak, everything in paints describes .........
        1. Krasnoarmeec
          Krasnoarmeec 19 November 2013 11: 38 New
          +2
          The judge did not want to pass a harsh sentence, but his hands were tied due to Stephanie's previous convictions for petty offenses.


          They have half of the judicial system based on precedents, hence the idiotic laws of the kind that you can’t play chess with a moose on Thursday,
          on the other hand, judges can oblige the guilty person to go around the city with a stupid sign for several years. fool
          1. Krasnoarmeec
            Krasnoarmeec 19 November 2013 11: 43 New
            +8
            Although I would not mind if Serdyukov walked around Moscow until the end of his days with a sign "I am a traitor and a thief."
          2. Basarev
            Basarev 20 November 2013 16: 31 New
            0
            Because of these precedents, cops can easily overwhelm a respectable citizen - just for laughs
    4. Averias
      Averias 19 November 2013 11: 57 New
      +5
      And also, children with toy guns are shot on the street.
    5. Val_y
      Val_y 19 November 2013 12: 01 New
      +6
      Duc justice, epte, "yesterday on the news I saw US policemen, moreover, niggas, stopped the car for exceeding, to lose weight, they beat the woman, tried to drag it out, and then began to shoot at the car, and there were FIVE CHILDREN in the CAR." I can't understand I don't like niggas sador americos in general. sad
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 20 November 2013 16: 33 New
        0
        But it's all because of the law - the cops are doing as they are told. You should not confuse the people and the government. It's not the same thing, it's a big difference.
    6. Nayhas
      Nayhas 19 November 2013 12: 12 New
      +6
      Quote: timhelmet
      I would call them "United States of Sheep"
      All countries are full of insanity, but so ...
      There, after all, children with toy pistols are also kicked out of kindergartens (fool for life)

      In the USSR, the attitude toward repeat offenders was certainly not so severe, but relapse was an aggravating circumstance. And this is absolutely correct.
      1. RPD
        RPD 19 November 2013 14: 38 New
        +7
        after the removal of the criminal record, there is no relapse. and relapse of two types, special and general. special crimes of the same type were punished more severely. common-dissimilar crimes. there were no cases "at the age of 10 he stole a chocolate bar, at the age of 20 he sat down for a chocolate bar for life" and there was no question
    7. CHILD
      CHILD 19 November 2013 18: 24 New
      +2
      how are you about the country of freedoms and a victorious democracy that does not exist with the dark world masses))))) they still tell us about the Gulag ..... and they have it now ...
      1. alone
        alone 19 November 2013 20: 07 New
        +5
        Timothy Jackson is also serving a life sentence without parole. This man stole a jacket in the store for 159 dollars.


        this one stole a jacket, he’s sitting for life. Taburetkin stole billions, chairman of the Rostekhnologii.mdyayaya .. no luck Timothy
    8. bilgesez
      bilgesez 19 November 2013 21: 00 New
      0
      Not only are they kicked out, still the brave American Police are killing them, and these police courts are acquitted.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 19 November 2013 21: 30 New
        +4
        I don’t understand what you’re kidding, what we have is not the same??? stole a billion - moved to a new place of work and sometimes with an increase, stole a kilogram of potatoes - when the children have nothing - FIVE years really (although in theory they should have been given conditionally) ... What are you laughing at?
    9. Basarev
      Basarev 20 November 2013 16: 27 New
      0
      I heard a story about a guy whom the police dunked just for wearing MMG AK.
  2. svskor80
    svskor80 19 November 2013 08: 08 New
    11
    The law is strong, but it's law. All the people listed in the article are repeat offenders; no one received a life sentence for small things, solely for relapse. As they say, they themselves have chosen lawmakers who have carried out just such a procedure of punishment, now do not grumble the Americans.
    1. Parabelum
      Parabelum 19 November 2013 10: 16 New
      +6
      I totally agree.
      "Jacket for 159 dollars! Tell me someone that I can get for this life, I would not believe him. "

      There is not only a jacket, there is also robbery and two car thefts. There was a chance of correction, but he did not use it. Now there is nothing to moan.
      1. DimychDV
        DimychDV 20 November 2013 04: 41 New
        0
        Steal a silver spoon - planted. It didn’t. Stick cupronickel cup holder. THAT THIS WOMAN GIVE A THIRD CHANCE, IF THE SECOND HAS ALREADY HAD ??? That's how terrorists breed! , march for life!
        ... Do you have enough abilities and time from YOUR son to raise such a socially responsible person? What is he doing there while YOU are sharpening your lyas in the social network? ..
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 20 November 2013 16: 37 New
          0
          Why are you bothering? Have you twice stolen a cap?
      2. erg
        erg 20 November 2013 08: 35 New
        +5
        England, it seems, somewhere in the 16th century (I don’t remember exactly, I could be wrong), already passed through a similar system, when small crimes were punished as severely as severe ones. He stole a piece of bread - a gallows, killed - a gallows. The result is a sharp surge in serious crimes. The criminals did not restrain anything, since the punishment is the same. And if earlier they could only cut the wallet, now they began to kill. (It’s easier to pick up from the corpse, but the punishment is still the same). Ancient Athens experienced something similar, after the adoption of the famous Dragon laws.
    2. Professor
      Professor 19 November 2013 15: 00 New
      +8
      Quote: svskor80
      The law is strong, but it's law. All the people listed in the article are repeat offenders; no one received a life sentence for small things, solely for relapse.

      You are absolutely right. We are talking about repeat offenders and the so-called law of the third crime. I made a mistake one time, the second time, of course, you are not to blame, they set you up and the first criminal record did not teach you anything. The third time is incorrigible and the next time spent is only a matter of time. I, a law-abiding citizen, are satisfied with this system.
  3. makarov
    makarov 19 November 2013 08: 20 New
    +5
    The stick is about 2 ends.
    Back in the days of the USSR, a neighbor at the entrance as a youngster was convicted of stealing 5 bars from a kiosk for 3 years. And I met him after 28 years. He received all the extra in the camps. Upon arrival home, he again distinguished himself by 3 years, and since he was considered an accused in the new state, he fell into general regime, which was outraged. A year later he was freed. Worked. While on a business trip, I heard the word pi..s from the son of the prosecutor, hit me with a knife, lethally. - 12 years of strict. Recently I called friends, says, I'm already at home.
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  4. dark_65
    dark_65 19 November 2013 08: 31 New
    +1
    and what? somewhere is better?
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 19 November 2013 12: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: dark_65
      and what? somewhere is better?

      We have. Probably only in Russia can there be a saying "Oh, have seven convictions and never sit!"
  5. Maximus-xnumx
    Maximus-xnumx 19 November 2013 08: 32 New
    +1
    I understand it’s a life-time limit for storing and selling drugs ... But for stealing a jacket ... Soon in the USA, those who steal glasses from a grandmother and grandfather’s jaw will be sentenced to death.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 19 November 2013 12: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: Maximus-22
      I understand it’s a life-time limit for storing and selling drugs ... But for stealing a jacket ... Soon in the USA, those who steal glasses from a grandmother and grandfather’s jaw will be sentenced to death.

      That's just before the theft of the "jacket" this citizen more than once committed more serious crimes. The retceedivist has nothing to do next to normal people.
      1. Maximus-xnumx
        Maximus-xnumx 19 November 2013 19: 59 New
        +1
        This citizen has committed more serious crimes more than once. The recidivist has nothing to do next to normal people. [/ Quote]

        the court sentenced Jackson to life. The fact is that twenty years ago, while still a minor, Timothy was convicted of robbery without weapons and two car thefts without aggravating circumstances. Gosha ! Too serious crimes to me!

        In Russia, by the way, citizens who have
        a) conviction for intentional crimes of small gravity;

        b) convictions for crimes committed by a person under the age of eighteen;
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 19 November 2013 21: 33 New
          0
          Quote: Maximus-22
          In Russia, by the way, citizens who have
          a) conviction for intentional crimes of small gravity;

          b) convictions for crimes committed by a person under the age of eighteen;

          Seriously??? You explain this to our judges and advise them to re-read the comments on the Criminal Code - you will immediately find out where you should go (both direction and address) ...
          1. Maximus-xnumx
            Maximus-xnumx 19 November 2013 21: 40 New
            0
            Well, if the judges did not read the 1st Code of the Criminal Code, then everything is clear.
          2. Maximus-xnumx
            Maximus-xnumx 19 November 2013 21: 44 New
            0
            This is not a comment. This is the UK itself.
            1. RPD
              RPD 20 November 2013 15: 08 New
              0
              UPK and we do not have the concept of "interpretation of the law" it is formalized to the ass, which is gut
        2. DimychDV
          DimychDV 20 November 2013 04: 48 New
          0
          But in vain, well, in vain ... HOW CAN _ be forgiven for a stranger to a villain a zvezdyulin under dances? How can I forgive a kid for a pencil case launched by a teacher ??? F-v-f POLICE !!! TO COURT!!! TO NAIL !!!
          ... And you read that in the year from 700 to more than a million people sit in our country? And after all, I think, we no longer have 000 million people, but 142-1 million less ...
      2. DimychDV
        DimychDV 20 November 2013 04: 44 New
        0
        ... And to his unfortunate parents - in our normal society. They did not watch the child - let them die of hunger in old age without a breadwinner.
    2. DimychDV
      DimychDV 20 November 2013 04: 36 New
      0
      From the point of view of a hungry grandfather - rightly so. And if it is already the third time someone’s jaw freezes ??? In the states they say - give the guy a second chance, but never give a third. so ... TO THE WALL !!!
      Grandfather is old, he doesn’t care. And the recidivist’s parents will go buy weapons and try on at the courthouse ... Or at the supermarket on a crowded day ...
  6. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 19 November 2013 08: 58 New
    +5
    ... According to human rights defenders, these are people who have committed non-violent crimes - for example, petty thefts - and received life sentences for this without the right to appeal ....
    Here SHE is the "fairest, most HUMANE" deRkatic system - in ALL ITS BEAUTY !!! Who else is eager to get US CITIZENSHIP, and is pouring "human rights" dirt on Russia?
  7. Stiletto
    Stiletto 19 November 2013 09: 02 New
    19
    But here, for the collapse of strategic industries, we immediately give the post of general director of a state corporation!
  8. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 19 November 2013 09: 07 New
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    Maybe I'm wrong, but in some states they give life after the 2nd, and in some after the 3rd term. Okay, I stumbled once, well, the second time, and the third time? and the fourth time? Also stumbled? He knew one grandfather had 42 years of imprisonment from him. Theft, robbery, heavy bodily, so he also shook his rights in the outpatient clinic. So he considered himself to be almost a hero. They identified him in a nursing home as he beat a weak granny. Good in jail healthy. It seems to me that everyone should have a chance for correction. But after the third chance, I'm sorry, but this creature should not be released from prison. By the way, these bruises of the first movers break so much that there is very little human left in people. And then they yell under the guitar that the creature’s cops ruined the young soul. but the fact that the young soul has his hands to the elbow in the blood ......... Chanson .... It is disgusting that the zone is being introduced into our lives. Sorry.
    1. DimychDV
      DimychDV 20 November 2013 04: 57 New
      +1
      In the early stages and in infancy, it is not necessary to deprive the will, but to give it to collectives for education. Well, here’s what, tell me, what to do with the kid: first grade, the kid died a few years ago, foster parents spoiled him, a year ago in the preparatory class he demanded the lion's share of general attention. Now is the first class. He is satisfied with ANY attention: both positive and negative. He can run away from the lesson, maybe he wants to run to the teacher as he wants, he can kick the girl on the break with a kick. Enough relapse? And he is only seven years old. By the age of 14 there will be a ready candidate. IF MEN DO NOT RETURN TO SCHOOL.
  9. winkiller
    winkiller 19 November 2013 09: 12 New
    +1
    So our judicial system does not need to look into Amer’s mouth and say how justice works for them.
  10. ReifA
    ReifA 19 November 2013 09: 25 New
    +1
    They don’t go to a foreign monastery with their laws. In general, do not go to the Russians, you yourself will be more whole.
  11. Stinger
    Stinger 19 November 2013 09: 40 New
    +1
    If you remove the scientific definitions, then independence is an opportunity to send the one you think is necessary, then when you consider it necessary, to where you think it is necessary. In my opinion, we are already approaching this.
  12. Aubert
    Aubert 19 November 2013 10: 20 New
    +4
    That's right: he committed a crime twice - he didn’t recover - for the third time in life, as a recidivist.
  13. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 19 November 2013 10: 57 New
    +4
    svskor80 SU
    The law is strong, but it's law.

    Now, if this applies to them and to the big thieves, from among the Civil Servants, Then it is GOOD, but if, as in Russia, SUROV, if only he stole a jacket, and if BILLIONS - then a NEW, WARM CHAIR ... ... it turns out - the next industry "got caught", - SENTENCE HER, POOR, to a "CORRECTIONAL TIME", at the time of the "SESSION" there is a thief ...
  14. SCHUZMAN
    SCHUZMAN 19 November 2013 11: 08 New
    +2
    Yes, everything is normal there in the States, bandits receive real terms, because there are so many prisoners, and do not forget that the states have a population of 300 million people.
  15. andrey-ivanov
    andrey-ivanov 19 November 2013 12: 01 New
    +5
    Quote: DZ_98_B
    Maybe I'm wrong, but in some states they give life after the 2nd, and in some after the 3rd term. Okay, I stumbled once, well, the second time, and the third time? and the fourth time? Also stumbled? He knew one grandfather had 42 years of imprisonment from him. Theft, robbery, heavy bodily, so he also shook his rights in the outpatient clinic. So he considered himself to be almost a hero. They identified him in a nursing home as he beat a weak granny. Good in jail healthy. It seems to me that everyone should have a chance for correction. But after the third chance, I'm sorry, but this creature should not be released from prison. By the way, these bruises of the first movers break so much that there is very little human left in people. And then they yell under the guitar that the creature’s cops ruined the young soul. but the fact that the young soul has his hands to the elbow in the blood ......... Chanson .... It is disgusting that the zone is being introduced into our lives. Sorry.


    I fully support it. If a person did not understand the first time, and even more so after the second, etc. Some individuals spend their entire lives in the zone. Interrupting for short periods of being at liberty until the next "flight". They are not afraid of another term - the prison is their second home. Let them plow for society in the "sanatorium". By the way, in the States, a fairly large sector of the economy is provided precisely by gratuitous labor, located in places not so remote, even large companies do not hesitate to use the labor of convicts.
  16. Nayhas
    Nayhas 19 November 2013 12: 05 New
    +3
    Actually, this phenomenon has a definition of Three strikes laws or the Law of three mistakes. Each state has its own approach to this law. I personally think that this is correct, if a person constantly "stumbles," then he does not want to live as a respectable citizen and his presence in society is dangerous for its members. I agree with the policy of humanity in relation to criminals, but the same policy should be in relation to respectable citizens, in order not to harm them, society is ready to go to expenses.
  17. vanaheym
    vanaheym 19 November 2013 12: 34 New
    +8
    The Americans have an accumulative system of terms, instead of an absorption one, as in xUSSR.
    That is, if we have a pretzel for 5 years for a series of episodes of thefts and then leave for parole after serving three years, then they can sit down for 20 years for the same number of episodes.
    This innocent lamb with a quarter kilo of coke also sat quite expectedly under the article for the distribution of drugs.
    Personally, I would only applaud if in our country the laws were applied to local Roma.
    1. RPD
      RPD 19 November 2013 14: 42 New
      +2
      in the USSR and in the Russian Federation there is an absorption and a merger of terms, just not up to senility in three
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 19 November 2013 21: 38 New
        +2
        In the USSR, the maximum term was 15 years, then there was a nine-gram bullet in the back of the head ...
        1. DimychDV
          DimychDV 20 November 2013 07: 36 New
          +1
          Judging by Koretsky, it could be a bullet of 7,62 or 5,6 mm, and potentially a carpentry hammer at the back of the head, and a blowtorch in the groin. Since the execution procedure was not described by the law, but by the internal service instruction of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ... Sov. secret, essno.
  18. mountain
    mountain 19 November 2013 12: 52 New
    +3
    They don’t go to a foreign monastery with their own charter. But, something to me their charters and laws are not good. And with their citizens, let them do what they want. And they climb on us, teachers, fucking ... ny. The pipiska did not grow to give us advice.
  19. krasavchik
    krasavchik 19 November 2013 14: 07 New
    +7
    but in our kingdom you can steal tens of billions and you won’t have anything for it)
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 November 2013 14: 16 New
      -1
      Quote: krasavchik
      but in our kingdom you can steal tens of billions and you won’t have anything for it)

      Where is it in yours, in Germany or in Israel?
      1. catapractic
        catapractic 19 November 2013 14: 53 New
        -1
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  20. RPD
    RPD 19 November 2013 14: 41 New
    +4
    in general, the naivety of amerskih criminals is striking, "I did not think", in general, the head is given to think, although this is not about them
  21. catapractic
    catapractic 19 November 2013 14: 51 New
    +1
    drug dealers should be imprisoned for a maximum period, in addition, 90-95% of the above characters are probably blacks.
  22. Strashila
    Strashila 19 November 2013 15: 07 New
    +2
    In the States, the legislation is significantly different from ours ... the term is given for the amount of crimes ... and it sounds "from" and "to" ... after serving "from" the prisoner can apply for parole ... not the fact that they will be released and will serve "before" and not the fact that it will come out can be thrown, if not corrected.
    Relapse is another song ... just goes "from" to plus for so many years ... and on a new one.
    The third crime in the career of a criminal in some states is the last one ... there were precedents when they sentenced to death for a stolen toilet roll ... well, or like in other states to life ... we have ten walkers.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 19 November 2013 21: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Strashila
      we have ten walkers.

      Ten walkers, for fifteen days, and all for the tomatoes ....
  23. Muadipus
    Muadipus 19 November 2013 15: 24 New
    -4
    Well ... Dumb ... !!!! (c) M.Zadornov.
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  25. The gentleman
    The gentleman 19 November 2013 15: 34 New
    +1
    they call us "uncivilized", "not democratic", but if we compare their legislation and ours, then we can safely say that human rights in reality work with us. for theft, if there is evidence and if a person is ready to compensate for the loss, he is released, not imprisoned, "administrative" and deprivation of some rights. but then there is a real deprivation of everything, life. on the other hand, the "exclusive" nation (if there is such a nation) , exceptional methods in the field of law
  26. KEKS44
    KEKS44 19 November 2013 16: 06 New
    +8
    I read the article and comments on it. Citizens, are you not enough of your worries? Or in our country Elysium, i.e. has heaven come on earth? Or do you care more about American thieves closed for life? We have bl ... va nemero! We have half the pedophiles for good behavior, the Serdyukovs, according to which the shkonka in the area cries freely and walk and spit on everyone with a high bell tower. So, it’s not for us to mock the Americans! Personally, I don’t give a damn about the wrong judicial system. For me, it’s a hundred times more important that our ghouls get what they deserve than we, by the way, can’t boast yet. We do not see logs in our eyes, but in a stranger, we notice a mote!
  27. Keeper
    Keeper 19 November 2013 16: 49 New
    +4
    That is precisely how the country intimidates its people so that they do not respect, but sincerely fear, to take a step away from the law! And this is not the worst. Read what happened in overpopulated Europe in past centuries and everything will fall into place ...
    Again, I would like to say in support of the law - most of those serving for life are liars and deceivers in sheep's clothing (I emphasize, MOST. Of course there are exceptions). The main problem of society is to convey the meaning of laws and the framework of morality to its citizens, so that they are initially aware of responsibility for their actions! And then "forgive me, I've brought half a cup of hashish here a couple of times, but nobody died from my defile on the way ?! Why do you want to hide me for the rest of my life" .... And the fact that silly children are put on the needle - I would have killed drug dealers and couriers myself, without even letting them sit! Let them rejoice that they are still breathing ...
  28. gameover_65
    gameover_65 19 November 2013 17: 20 New
    +4
    very interesting article, but the author did not deduce the main thing.
    in the United States, for criminal offenses, tried three times.
    stole a bun, caught, given a minimum with the possibility of parole. to scare.
    I stole the bun for the second time, well, clearly it’s already clear that this is not accidental. get the full term, with the possibility of verbatim, only after serving half the term and a positive response from the institution where you are sitting.
    stole a bun for the third time already in terms of life does not work.
    where did their shootings with the police come from? Yes, because they know that a third criminal conviction is either life imprisonment or the death penalty.
    I, personally, see nothing wrong with that.
  29. gameover_65
    gameover_65 19 November 2013 17: 26 New
    +1
    it is much better than our laws, under which you can make eight to ten walkers.
    there this is basically impossible. judged only three times. third or death penalty or life imprisonment.
  30. Sterlya
    Sterlya 19 November 2013 17: 38 New
    -4
    all amers need to be planted. when the frame is left alone. fill his face
  31. gameover_65
    gameover_65 19 November 2013 17: 56 New
    +4
    judge for yourself, this is fair!
    Why do people need parasites?
    why
    Anthony Jerome Jackson has six classes of education. He worked as a cook. When he was 44 of the year, he stole a wallet from the Myrtle Beach hotel room. Police arrested him when he tried to use a stolen credit card. Due to his two previous convictions for burglary, Jackson was sentenced to life imprisonment without the right to parole.

    three times, the third is relapse!
    Stephanie Yvette George is a 23-year-old single mother. Police discovered drugs hidden in a safe in the attic of her house. The judge did not want to pass a harsh sentence, but his hands were tied due to previous convictions Stephanie about petty offenses

    again previous convictions.
    Theresa Griffin was sentenced for her first violation. She was 26 years old and was in her seventh month of pregnancy when the police detained her with $ 38500 in cash belonging to her friend and half a pound of his cocaine. According to Griffin, her former friend hit her and threatened her with death. Because of jealousy, he forbade her to go to school or work. Teresa said that a friend used it as a mule for transporting drugs route Texas - Oklahoma. She took cash from the sale of drugs. Griffin (she is 47 years old) has already served 22 years in prison. She says: "I understand: I did something wrong, but this is not enough to take away my life."

    26 years old and she does not understand what she is doing? her friend forbids her to go to school? at 26 to school?
    yes tries are needed in society

    yes, every case is direct, this is the third criminal record
    the third time went to trial. all! or the death penalty, or life.
    Three times you can’t be wrong!
  32. gameover_65
    gameover_65 19 November 2013 18: 18 New
    +1
    She took cash from the sale of drugs. Griffin (she is 47 years old) has already served 22 years in prison. She says: "I understand: I did something wrong, but this is not enough to take away my life."

    Is this not enough to take your life away?
    and when selling drugs, how many took your life ?!
  33. RPD
    RPD 19 November 2013 18: 33 New
    0
    all this is certainly good, but I would like to look at the financial reporting of the US penitentiary institutions. What is the balance?
  34. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 19 November 2013 19: 16 New
    +4
    I strongly support the American system. But how is it with us: stole-gave conditionally, again stole- stole a year with a delay, again stole - gave a couple of years, went out on parole, then rolled already robbed, but didn’t steal-gave fives, went on parole, drugs are household murder or aggravated robbery. And law-abiding citizens are forced to endure such characters and shake from the fact that he wanders into his head.
    By the way, to all opponents of the harsh system: when these bastards take your jacket or mobile away from you, they break the glass of your car and take away the radio tape recorder or things that you earned with your hump or they are very memorable to you, or they will use drugs around the school - just take pity on them, they are miserable.
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  36. Egoza
    Egoza 19 November 2013 19: 29 New
    0
    I read about the Americans and chuckle. That's how they judge themselves. But why is it climbing into the affairs of other countries?
    "The US Senate adopted resolution S. Res. 165 on the release of the former Prime Minister of Ukraine Yulia Tymoshenko. The resolution, authored by Democratic Senator Richard Durbin, was submitted to the Senate on June 10, 2013." The Senate calls on the Ukrainian government to release the former Prime Minister - Minister Yulia Tymoshenko from imprisonment due to politicized accusations and in the light of the decision of the European Court of Human Rights adopted in April 2013, "the resolution says.
    Also The US called on the "European Union to include the release of Tymoshenko as a criterion for signing an Association Agreement with Ukraine at the upcoming Eastern Partnership Summit in Lithuania. " US Senate also expresses concern and discontent the fact that Tymoshenko’s selective and politically motivated conclusion unnecessarily distracts attention from Ukraine’s strong ties with Europe, the United States and the unification of democratic countries.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-131527.html#title
    xxx
    And this is all about the "aunt" against whom 20 criminal cases have been instituted, and in the United States itself, she was involved in court cases as an accomplice of the fugitive prime minister.
  37. vkrav
    vkrav 19 November 2013 20: 15 New
    +1
    I repeat, in the Union there was one time-- in the 70s, it seems, the maximum term is 15 years .. More than a pyatnarika (in aggregate) is a tower ... But not in all respects.
    1. RPD
      RPD 20 November 2013 16: 20 New
      0
      everything was expedient, there were deadlines prohibiting them from holding certain positions, there were deadlines after which ZK could not work because of health due to age it stole
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  39. zinander
    zinander 19 November 2013 21: 02 New
    0
    They’re tough there and laid down on human rights ..
  40. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 19 November 2013 22: 56 New
    0
    Get fucked up! I understand if violent crimes or resulting in significant damage to state security and the people (which we need to implement). But this is insanity. Although the states are full of dumb laws, and ours are all trying to anonymize.
  41. Humpty
    Humpty 20 November 2013 16: 36 New
    +1
    A recidivist’s life is hard and unpretentious in the states.
  42. lazy
    lazy 21 November 2013 07: 46 New
    0
    And I would like Russia to also introduce the law "3 mistakes", figs with it, let only those related to violence be considered (so that some citizens do not have snot, they say they put a bun for life), but if a person goes to the hop 3 times stop, then there is no longer a question of correcting the speech, only life-long, but it will be calmer to walk the streets