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Monogorozhane across the country, move ...

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Last week, the Russian government almost at full strength decided to hold a retreat. The main question is: “what do we do with mono-towns?” Why was this particular question that worried government officials? The fact is that many Russian single-industry towns, according to the estimates of the Ministry of Labor, provide a significant, let's say, contribution to the overall unemployment rate. In total, 342 has one-company towns in Russia (cities with a company that employs a large number of residents of the locality), in 60% (more than 140 cities) of which the unemployment rate exceeds both the average in the region and the national average. In 50 cities of 342, the percentage of officially registered unemployed exceeded 10%, which is twice as high as the national average.


To influence the situation, the ministers decided to hold a retreat in one of these cities - Tutaev (Yaroslavl Region) - the city of the Golden Ring of Russia. The town-forming enterprise here is the Tutaev Motor Plant, which employs about 2 thousands of city residents (the total population of Tutaev is 40,5 thousand people). And the number of factory workers is falling every year (in 1998, more than 12 thousand people worked at TMZ, which is due to the lack of permanent large-scale orders. Today TMZ, like many other Russian manufactures, is forced to switch to part-time work. At TMZ, the working day is only four hours. That is, there is hidden unemployment, when people seem to be employed in production, but in fact remain unclaimed. According to some sources, Russian Technologies is a major shareholder of the Tutaev Motor Plant, in which Anatoly Serdyukov has recently been in charge. In this regard: is not the appointment of Mr. Serdyukov to a high post at Rostec an attempt to "finally solve the problem of monotowns" in Russia? ..

Monogorozhane across the country, move ...


The fact that the decision on single-industry towns can be “final” has become clear from the nature of the government meeting itself. It turned out that in order to “solve” the problem of one-company towns, one must get rid of the one-company towns themselves. Well, it’s in the style “There is a monocity - there are problems, there is no monocity - there are no problems ...” Government officials made an offer to the unoccupied population of such settlements as Tutaev, for example, to resettle, for example, to the Far East ... Like, if there is no work in the monocity, it must be sought outside its territory.

Such a proposal lies in the concept that was recently voiced by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. The prime minister noted that Russians in the conditions of the current economy need to be ready not only to change jobs, but also to change their place of residence. The logic is as follows: there is no work here - go there, lost a job there - go to another place. That is, people who have lost their jobs should become a kind of nomadic people who will travel around the country in search of jobs. It seems to be all right - you need to think about how to feed the family, but what will these nomadic tendencies lead to? They can only lead to the fact that there will be no single-company towns or industrial enterprises demanded by them. And the number of original "Detroit" in the country, obviously, will begin to grow. There were “dead” villages, and “dead” cities would also appear.

But people are not so easy to budge. Many people in the city or its environs - housing, relatives, friends, cellars and pickles, fish places, in the end ... It's not so easy to give up all this and rush in search of "labor adventures" away from the collapsing city-forming enterprise.

As it turned out, the government thought about this, and decided to push people to the move. How? Everybody who wants to move from a single-industry town to a “satisfying” place for 200 thousand rubles per person is going to. If this person takes the whole family with him at once, then the payments are decided to increase to 300 thousand. Well, if a man with his family travels to the Far East (and now, judging by Dmitry Rogozin, to call our East Far Far Off is reprehensible, but it must be called none other than the “Pacific zone” or the “Pacific region”), payments can grow to 800 thousand. The state is going to allocate about 18 billion rubles for these needs (of which 20% is the funds of the regions - obviously the host regions). However, if you live in a mono-town and have already decided, at the call of the government, to move to other cities and weigh in search of work, at the same time hoping to receive dubbed funds, then you will have to somewhat calm down the fervor. The fact is that the government decided to help only those who are going to leave in search of a better life from single-industry cities, whose unemployment rate exceeds the national average, that is, this level should be above 5,4%.

This situation gives an excellent chance for local officials to “solve” the problem of unemployment in two accounts, and even with the issuance of funds to those who are going to leave the city in search of work. It’s enough in the reports “a little” to correct the unemployment figure in the direction of its reduction - and the matter is done - the city turns not only into a successful one, but already into the average ... This is to make the population of the city sit on the fifth point exactly. But at the same time, the authorities from other single-industry towns may have the opportunity to “draw in” the unemployment rate to values ​​higher than the national average. To finish the order - once, to receive money from the state - two, to hand over a report that so many-so-so-so-settled - three, to replenish their own financial situation - four, to “configure” in the rank of a witness (if this information comes up) . No, of course, we will not assume that all municipal governments of single-industry towns will go to such frauds with state funds. But there are those who will definitely go. Well, this, based on the latest trends ...

By the way, just something 2-3 a year ago, the Russian authorities declared support for single-industry towns. The then Prime Minister Vladimir Putin actively visited such cities, called in a specific manner to representatives of big business to negotiate with each other, so that city-forming enterprises would go out to the necessary production capacity and pace. It turns out that that work is no longer counted, that funds were allocated in vain to support the city-forming enterprises? Now new trends, know-how - relocation? ..

It can be assumed that many people will still go looking for work in the same Far East, having received the promised funds from the state. You can even assume that they will find a job and get a place to live. But then it turns out that the inhabitants of the single-industry towns of the Far East find themselves in some awkward situation. They certainly don’t get thousands for 800 - they also live in the Far East ... That is, a strange situation turns out: a person who has come to look for a workplace in the Far East from other FDs is going to give the state money, and to a person who has long lived in this region , and, perhaps, it has no less problems with work - not to give, or to give, but less ... Following such governmental logic, in order to get state support, the Far Eastern people urgently need to leave their region and then enter it back ...
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 November 2013 08: 14
    14
    As always, the ill-conceived decision of our government. Another jamb or incompetence of the government itself?
    1. Canep
      Canep 18 November 2013 08: 23
      22
      1. it is necessary to reduce the number of single-industry towns through tax incentives for industries located in such cities, for example, the abolition of all taxes for 5 years and free land rental for the 2nd and 3rd PRODUCTION enterprises located in these cities for the same 5 years.
      2. The employer in these cities must be recognized as a monopolist in the labor market, with all that it implies.
      1. Garysit
        Garysit 18 November 2013 11: 17
        +5
        Have you thought about where to put the products in the quantities that were released earlier?
        1. Alekseev
          Alekseev 18 November 2013 13: 13
          +3
          Quote: GarySit
          Have you thought about where to put the products in the quantities that were released earlier?

          But for this it is necessary to pursue a sound economic policy: benefits for industry, develop domestic demand, etc.
          To prevent this from happening: one single-industry town collapsed, people left for a new enterprise, then it also became unnecessary, where to go next?
        2. Siberian German
          Siberian German 19 November 2013 04: 30
          +1
          I thought, and as I said - we are leaving the WTO, we are covering the border and the demand will be disregarded. Yes, and the fact that under the Union these products were shipped somewhere - but the question is that many markets have lost
    2. SolomonSS
      SolomonSS 18 November 2013 08: 48
      51
      Yeah, it’s impossible to solve by the principle that the hand hurts is a problem, there is no hand, there is no problem ...
      The ingenious decision was said by Alf (who remembers the 90th Alf alien series, or something like that):
      "-Alf we have a lot of homeless people !!!
      -We will build houses.
      -Alf we have a lot of unemployed !!!
      -We have no unemployed! They are already building houses! "

      To avoid the unemployed, it is necessary to build production! Instead of chopping off your hand. And in general, in every such city "monocity" (as the government called it), there were factories, and more than one during the USSR, which makes it difficult to restore them.

      The most interesting thing is that the UAE build wonders of the world one by one, erect artificial islands, at the expense of oil. But our country takes out timber, sells gas, oil, copper, gold, silver, etc. ... and what we see ... broken roads, Khrushchevs, not one new plant.

      We draw conclusions, gentlemen, who is "at the helm" and what goals our government pursues.
      1. d1m1drol
        d1m1drol 18 November 2013 09: 05
        17
        Recently I SEE normal roads, economic zones (though still under construction) and much more. But your division ... Bear-the enemy of the people is a fait accompli. By the way I live in a single-industry town, or rather a mono-district. In each district, we have one enterprise.
        1. Shur
          Shur 18 November 2013 22: 42
          +1
          And then it was not immediately clear where this nominee came from.
        2. Siberian German
          Siberian German 19 November 2013 04: 32
          +1
          but don’t tell me where such a miracle is
      2. Zifix
        Zifix 18 November 2013 12: 33
        +2
        http://sdelanounas.ru/ — ни одного завода говорите? Ну, и у нас просто несравнимые объемы продажи нефти на душу населения с ОАЭ, у нас что-то около тысячи рублей в месяц на человека получается. А мешает восстанавливать те же самые заводы на том же самом месте в первую очередь их нерентабельность — попробуй посоперничай с китайцами, с их ценой на рабочую силу, климат, и прочее.
        1. Timeout
          Timeout 18 November 2013 12: 42
          +2
          Quote: Zifix
          Well, and we just have incomparable volumes of oil sales per capita with the UAE, we get something about a thousand rubles per month per person.

          Interesting, and if you count? According to this table:

          The arithmetic is simple: 43242800000 / 140000000 = $ 308,8771428571429
          An average of 300 bucks a quarter ...
          Link to the full table http://www.cbr.ru/statistics/print.aspx?file=credit_statistics/crude_oil.htm
          1. Zifix
            Zifix 18 November 2013 13: 09
            +3
            Okay, even if 3000 rubles a month, it still can’t be compared with the UAE.
          2. Zifix
            Zifix 18 November 2013 13: 21
            +1
            At the same time, in Saudi Arabia this figure is somewhere 10-12 times higher, in the United Arab Emirates 24 (!) Times. http://toplivo.rbc.ua/rus/dohody-opek-ot-prodazhi-nefti-po-itogam-2012-g-vyrosli

            -na-9-2--29072013191900
        2. kaktus
          kaktus 18 November 2013 14: 51
          +1
          And what? Immediately into the loop or pushed yet?
        3. PSih2097
          PSih2097 18 November 2013 16: 26
          +5
          Quote: Zifix
          Well, and we just have incomparable volumes of oil sales per capita with the UAE,

          Gas prices with diesel fuel and gas, too (7 cents in the UAE and $ 1,3 with us) ...
        4. Shur
          Shur 18 November 2013 22: 44
          +1
          So one must consider expediency. For example KamAZ, why close it? Isn’t it profitable. Yes, and he is still sore and old on his face. What can not be developed?
      3. Shur
        Shur 18 November 2013 22: 41
        0
        They simply copy the "great Western experience".
    3. nuclear scientist
      nuclear scientist 18 November 2013 10: 09
      11
      Everything is planned! Eviction of people from the central part of RUSSIA is a thoughtful step! They want to create reservations for unskilled workers, and even dissatisfied unemployed far from the center, there is something to think about !!! and all this for a penny, and the problem is global !!!
    4. shtanko.49
      shtanko.49 18 November 2013 13: 05
      +7
      I’m already afraid when I find out that Medvedev has embarked on some kind of reformation. It’s not necessary to remove the single-industry towns, but the prime minister, it is no longer possible to endure it.
      1. Shur
        Shur 18 November 2013 22: 50
        +2
        He will end with "Narodnaya Volya". You can't doom people to survival like that.
      2. Shur
        Shur 18 November 2013 22: 54
        +1
        Give me a 200-hectare allotment of land, money for a house and a farm, and I'll go. Stolypin gave people land, and not some kind of "job". Let him take it for himself, bred. Some kind of false Dmitry.
    5. Letterksi
      Letterksi 18 November 2013 13: 33
      +4
      Normal subversive action against the country
    6. tomket
      tomket 18 November 2013 20: 56
      0
      Well, citizens will receive 800 thousand, they will take a train, they will reach the Far East and return by the same train, it must be rejoiced that Medvedev decided to make such useful excursions for the people
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 18 November 2013 21: 07
        +5
        Government officials came up with a proposal to move the unoccupied population of such settlements as the same Tutaev, for example, to the Far East ...

        Show an example, gentlemen officials! Start with the unemployed population of "ruble slums" and similar "mono-villages"! yes And then, believe me, not only the "new Moscow" will follow you, but the entire "Garden Ring". The effect will be 100%! fellow fellow fellow All the beggars with shouts of URA and slogans "For the prosperity of the Pacific region" will buy tickets for Russian Railways and Aeroflot for the year ahead! And he will refuse lifting!
    7. alone
      alone 18 November 2013 21: 03
      +2
      I looked at the photo in the article. It’s not working itself, and it’s bothering the workers of the plant. I wonder what he’s talking to them about? IPhone or Twitter?
  2. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 18 November 2013 08: 19
    23
    I am tormented by vague doubts about the adequate perception of reality by our government officials ... it's time for a physical examination, oh time.
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 18 November 2013 09: 42
      19
      There is Medvedev - there is a problem, there is no Medvedev - there is no problem ... Well, his bureaucrats are in the same stove ...
    2. Fin
      Fin 18 November 2013 09: 55
      14
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      Vague doubts about adequate perception torment me

      For a long time they have no idea what is happening in the country. I looked from the helicopter (office window) everything was spinning, spinning. They invited me to cut the ribbon at the opening of the production and set myself a plus sign. So life goes on in a rosy light. The people began to forget, disorder! Let's fight with time (ppm). Housing and communal services need to be reformed, easy! Now we will change the terms of payment, and the fact that everything is falling apart is temporary, the market will regulate. The "delusional generator" does not sleep, it gushes. Well this is so, distracted.
      The idea of ​​combating single-industry towns could come to mind only to owners of factories, newspapers, and steamboats. They incur losses if demand falls in the market, it is necessary to help close the plant. They are to DAM, he is always ready to help friends.
      In general, they are well aware that no one will go anywhere from their homes to the unknown (well, maybe a few). It is made in order to say that during popular unrest, the program is developed, come for money, we will provide everyone with work. As a result, the plant was closed, people were offered work, they themselves do not want to go to blame. No problem.
    3. max702
      max702 18 November 2013 10: 52
      +7
      What is a physical examination ?! It’s time to treat forehead with greens to smear so that the bullet does not bring the infection !!
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 18 November 2013 11: 13
        +9
        The main medical examination tool.
    4. builder
      builder 18 November 2013 12: 00
      +4
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      Vague doubts about adequate perception torment me

      You still doubt it. what
      1. Valery Neonov
        Valery Neonov 18 November 2013 12: 54
        +2
        Vaguely, "vaguely" I doubt .. laughing You’re okay. Yeah. hi
        1. builder
          builder 18 November 2013 13: 32
          +1
          Dumb not neat wink
  3. Vasily Ivanov
    Vasily Ivanov 18 November 2013 08: 22
    +6
    visionaries ...
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 18 November 2013 08: 38
      14
      Quote: Vasily Ivanov
      visionaries ...

      Or enemies?
      1. Valery Neonov
        Valery Neonov 18 November 2013 08: 41
        +6
        A precise definition of the essence of these "leaders". hi
      2. Shur
        Shur 18 November 2013 22: 55
        +1
        In his case, and the enemy and do .. at the same time.
  4. antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 18 November 2013 08: 40
    10
    It can be assumed that many people will still go in search of work in the same Far East, having received the promised funds from the state.

    And they won’t find nichrome there !!!
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 18 November 2013 08: 59
      +7
      Quote: antiaircrafter
      It can be assumed that many people will still go in search of work in the same Far East, having received the promised funds from the state.
      And they won’t find nichrome there !!!

      As well as in other places of our country, with the exception of there may be several exclusive points.
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      2. cosmos111
        cosmos111 18 November 2013 11: 13
        +8
        Monogorozhane across the country, move ...

        In place of monotowns, to develop new industries and technologies (a large number of highly skilled workers and engineers).

        Of these people they want to make the unemployed homeless.
        Who will provide them with free housing in other regions?
  5. Boris55
    Boris55 18 November 2013 08: 50
    21
    At our salary level and with housing prices, Medvedev's offer is tantamount to depriving citizens of their own housing for life.

    Medvedev views the citizens of our country as a kind of "labor resource" (slaves) who are obliged to follow the employer.

    Medvedev has a purely Anglo-American approach to the "temporary resident" in the territory that was accidentally entrusted to him.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 18 November 2013 15: 07
      +6
      Quote: Boris55
      ... Medvedev's proposal ...
      Medvedev is considering ...
      Medvedev ...
      1. Oskar
        Oskar 18 November 2013 17: 01
        +8
        Yes, as always: all in the shit ... e, and Putin in white.
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    2. Stiletto
      Stiletto 18 November 2013 15: 57
      +5
      Monogorozhane across the country, move ...

      - Let’s better yourself, Dmitry Anatolyevich! And take the government with you ...
      1. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 18 November 2013 16: 02
        +3
        DAM's actions begin to annoy, as if deliberately trying to worsen the situation in the country
        1. tomket
          tomket 18 November 2013 20: 58
          +1
          maybe Medvedev claims the Darwin Prize ??? So he is trying his best ????
      2. Shur
        Shur 18 November 2013 22: 57
        +2
        Monocramlin resettled too? ;)) Give the capital in Novosibirsk! Such a country cannot be ruled from afar. Let the government transfer to the real center of the country. A personal example in his hands.
  6. makarov
    makarov 18 November 2013 08: 53
    -7
    I can’t understand and naturally discuss government decisions, because the author’s expression is not clear.
    The materials on the clogging of the RUSSIAN LANGUAGE were published and vividly discussed on the website earlier.
    The author clearly decided to "show off the idea" by coming up with a sort of new name "MONOTHORN". And what are the STEREOGORODA? Or QUADRO?
    1. Fin
      Fin 18 November 2013 11: 09
      +5
      Quote: makarov
      The author clearly decided to "show off the idea" by coming up with a sort of new name "MONOTOGUE".

      And here is the author? For a start, you would ask in Google, and then you would "shine" with knowledge.
      1. makarov
        makarov 18 November 2013 11: 30
        -6
        Why do I need google? I’m not reading Google, but the author’s material. Well, if it is written with a link to Google, then usually a reference is indicated. Here it’s straightforwardly stated, they say, dear readers, in accordance with the info stated in Google, the word monotown was discovered, which I want to tell you about. Well, hereinafter ...
        1. Volodin
          18 November 2013 13: 21
          +5
          Link to Google? This is strong ... Maybe another reference dictionary through the word refer?
          1. experienced
            experienced 18 November 2013 13: 25
            +2
            Quote: Volodin
            Link to Google? This is strong ...

            Alexey, hello hi
            I immediately imagined an article on the site in which every word and preposition comes with links to Google ... There is no limit to the "rationality" of some initiatives ... Then they will start to find fault with the letters laughing
            1. Volodin
              18 November 2013 13: 35
              +6
              Good afternoon, Alexey! Agree, calls to "link to Google" are something new smile
              1. experienced
                experienced 18 November 2013 13: 43
                0
                Quote: Volodin
                Agree, calls to "link to Google" are something new

                Well, there are unique ones that Wiki identify with the encyclopedia ... It's hard to surprise me, but some forum users manage to do this wassat
                To be honest, the news about Fourty four victims of the disaster in Kazan people (somehow it looked like this), although 44 passengers and 6 crew members died in the crash. I didn’t bother with the “instructions”, but it didn’t look very correct when I caught my eye ... But Google, it only gives links, and what words should the author use this his inalienable right, otherwise they like to force us to write the word HAPPINESS from the letters "O", "P", "F" and "A"
                1. Shur
                  Shur 18 November 2013 23: 04
                  0
                  I grieve with family and friends. Many young people who have not really lived yet. Let them sort it out in memory for all the reasons and finally think about domestic aircraft construction and air transportation. We can all be in their place! It’s hard to realize that this can happen again. Earth rest in peace to all the dead.
        2. Zifix
          Zifix 18 November 2013 13: 23
          +1
          Yes, it should not be sent to Google, but to the wiki.
          1. Normal
            Normal 18 November 2013 13: 30
            +2
            Quote: Volodin
            Link to Google? This is strong.

            Quote: Zifix
            Yes, it should not be sent to Google

            laughing Yes it was on ... Google and it was necessary ... SEND! lol
            1. makarov
              makarov 18 November 2013 13: 40
              0
              So after all, upbringing does not allow.
    2. Shur
      Shur 19 November 2013 00: 10
      0
      There are multi (a joke of humor). There are all kinds of things. Are you really dark in these matters? I do not mind. I have a second specialty municipal manager (the first technician is an electrician, general industrial, electric transport). By the way, I wrote a course paper on the problems of urban development and the reform of the housing and communal services system in such cities. I remember that the conclusion there is that the development of the economy and infrastructure can produce the effect of improving the urban economy and so on. Those. everything is interconnected. According to the housing and communal services, everything was written under the then trendy directions of a certain institution of development of something there (I don’t remember a European one, it seems) with the assistance of the German. And this one was found here by Energodar-monotown Zaporizhzhya region.
  7. Alex-z84
    Alex-z84 18 November 2013 09: 03
    18
    No word, here is our backbone enterprise `` APATIT '' now these so-called `` effective '' managers sent from Moscow are falling apart! More than 6000 thousand people were dismissed from the enterprise, which in the spring brought huge profits and paid a stable high salary, and this is with a city population of 28000 !!! The city-forming enterprises are being pulled apart in pieces! And the most unprecedented instruction of the new Moscow `` management '' of the LOCALS TO NOT TAKE WORK !!!!! In the city where the Russian people have always worked, they have already begun to bring guest workers in wagons, except as a purposeful sabotage aimed at destroying the enterprise and the city, as well as squeezing out and replacing the indigenous local population with guest workers! Let me remind you that the enterprise brought a huge dakhod and was near the sea, since there are only two Apatito-Nefilin ore deposits used for the production of fertilizers in the world.
    1. Normal
      Normal 18 November 2013 13: 24
      +9
      Quote: Alex-z84
      And the most unprecedented instruction of the new Moscow `` management '' DO NOT TAKE LOCALS TO WORK!

      Most likely, under the guise of the "Moscow leadership" are "St. Petersburg" - their handwriting.
      Something similar was with our farm (Moscow region) back in 2001, when the St. Petersburg leaders came to the leadership. It was also the installation of the dismissal of all local and a set of people from the outside. Those locals who did not want to quit were transferred to other units as far as possible from their place of residence. Thus, several tasks were solved at once; the unwanted were driven out and fired, the obedient and silent were recruited in their place, the economy was degrading, since the new employee did not care about him - not his own and not sorry. Over time, the entire economy was ruined, closed and sold out. The village was transferred to the municipality, but without the forest, which the new managers sold, and communications for which they also tear three skins.
      At the beginning of the century, St. Petersburg tested this mechanism on small mono-settlements of KhozU in the administration of the President. Now it came to single-industry towns. Then there will be mono-regions, monoregions and a mono-country.
      The local population will be offered (yes, they have already proposed) to become a mobile labor force and to earn money first from single-industry towns, then from the country, and migrants will be brought to vacant places.

      Quote: Boris55
      At our salary level and with housing prices, Medvedev's offer is tantamount to depriving citizens of their own housing for life.

      Medvedev views the citizens of our country as a kind of "labor resource" (slaves) who are obliged to follow the employer.

      Medvedev has a purely Anglo-American approach to the "temporary resident" in the territory that was accidentally entrusted to him.


      When this mechanism was worked out about Medvedev, no one had ever heard of it.
      There is no "Medvedev". There is a tandem. There is Power. There is a policy of Power as a system of goals and ways to achieve them.
      A policy is determined by the President.
  8. Asgard
    Asgard 18 November 2013 09: 10
    27
    Remember a town like Kondopoga ... September 2006 ...
    The Kondopoga Pulp and Paper Mill, which for 25 years headed Fedelmeister, an atypical Jew of the Soviet spill, with him the enterprise worked even in the dashing 90s and all kinds of crises, he built Ice Palaces, pools, houses. This Public Property ...

    Happily go bankrupt (specially)) Appointment Putin Khudilainen (from St. Petersburg)) wants to build a Shipyard !!!!!! ....destroying a real enterprise AND WILL BUILD SHIPS))))) as Peter what))) .... http: //www.forest-karelia.ru/index.php? Id = 595 & lang = 1

    There is such a town of Nadvoitsy. About 12 years ago at the NAZ factory(NadvoitskyAluminium Plant)built new electrolysis shops and since then the production has not stopped, people received salaries, children studied in specialized universities to replace their fathers in the enterprise, and in general it seemed like everything was good ....
    About two months ago, Deripaska arrived, said that NAZ was not profitable for him and he would stop him .....
    Well, the government said that we will not allow it)))))))))
    And the electrolysis baths are suppressed at the factory ....
    There are two months left and a successful and fairly advanced enterprise will fall apart, since it is effective for a certain number of products (it is already unprofitable)))

    We do not build airplanes, where to get LYUMINY))) So graduates of some universities are already writing))))
    The boom of flying second-hand and dying in accidents ......
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 18 November 2013 09: 46
      +5
      Asgard, at one time in Kondopoga and in Nadvoitsy there was another production, in addition to the enterprises you mentioned. But that was a very long time ago. In the 90s, everything "came up belly up". crying
    2. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 18 November 2013 12: 00
      +3
      [quote = Asgard] We can’t build airplanes, where to get LUMINIUM))) So graduates of some universities are already writing))))
      "Boom to fly second-hand and die in accidents ......"
      Gold words. And the Tadpole will invent what else to stir up, so that we live more fun ...
    3. STALGRAD76
      STALGRAD76 18 November 2013 12: 43
      +6
      In Volgograd, Deribaska, the aluminum plant was closed, 3 tons. People are already on the street, whoever has heard about this in the news? and you will not hear! small diameter pipe plant stopped - 400 people on vacation at their own expense (also count on the street), the iron and steel works "Red Oktybr" - bankruptcy. Conclusion - pests are in power!
      1. Normal
        Normal 18 November 2013 13: 47
        +6
        Quote: STALGRAD76
        Conclusion - pests are in power!


        Well what are you-what are you. What are these pests? It is on pro-government newspeak ineffective owners and effective managers. Remember how billions dissolved in Skolkovo? What did the President say? That the management of RUSNANO invests funds inefficiently, but does not steal. laughing
        Such are unreasonable; they carry a spoon past the mouth, and right into the garbage pit.
      2. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 18 November 2013 17: 45
        +1
        STALGRAD76 "Conclusion - pests are in power!"
        Not pests but reformers !!! Here in the news I heard they want to reform the Russian post. So now the mail will come.
    4. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 23: 07
      0
      Drop, drop of blood in our patience ..
  9. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 18 November 2013 09: 19
    +8
    Before the "glory" EBNa in the collapse of the country Medvedev to stretch and stretch. The question arises, why is he afloat? True, the answer is known.
    The only way out with single-industry towns is nationalization, if the city-forming enterprise cannot provide work and maintain a city. For conditional pennies. And the creation of a support program for the enterprise up to the state order and, or the construction of a new, competitive enterprise. But the authorities need to work. Much easier to blame everything on people, as happens with the same regular pension reform, healthcare ....
    Interestingly, there is at least one person in the country who can respectfully say about Medvedev?
    1. Alex-z84
      Alex-z84 18 November 2013 09: 25
      +1
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      The only way out with single-industry towns is nationalization, if the city-forming enterprise cannot provide work and maintain a city. For conditional pennies. And the creation of an enterprise support program up to the state order and the construction of a new, competitive enterprise. But the authorities need to work. Much easier to blame everything on people, as happens with the same regular pension reform, healthcare ....

      Yes, only our enterprise brought in a dakhod without any state support, since it is a Russian, if not metered, monapolist produced by Apatita, which is part of the FOSAGRO holding.
      1. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 18 November 2013 11: 43
        +5
        Yes, that's just our company without any state support prinаforce dаmove, as it’s Russian, if not mеflat monаadd-on sheetачи Apatite, part of the FOSAGRO holding


        Young man, go back to school, at the desk!
      2. Stas
        Stas 19 November 2013 10: 33
        +2
        "Yes, only our enterprise brought in a dakhod without any state support, since this is a Russian, if not metered, monapolist produced by Apatita, which is part of the FOSAGRO holding."

        Learn Russian, always come in handy in life. In one sentence, a mountain of mistakes - isn't it embarrassing?
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    3. Oskar
      Oskar 18 November 2013 17: 05
      +4
      There are, and we all know him.
  10. Tanysh
    Tanysh 18 November 2013 09: 24
    +7
    The states fought depression and unemployment by creating roads, building houses
    Do not take away from people the opportunity to live. People themselves will build themselves the main thing is not to interfere, and if there is an opportunity, but it is! give tax credits to such single-industry towns. Cutting is easier than thinking.
    1. Drosselmeyer
      Drosselmeyer 18 November 2013 14: 41
      +1
      In the States, some people (mostly marginalized) live in trailers. Probably the Russian authorities have taken such "mobility" as a standard.
  11. optimist
    optimist 18 November 2013 09: 29
    21
    If we continue the logic of this article, it is best to leave the Russian Federation for some Papuan all at all: there, probably, there are no such fucking ... as in our government. No normal person will give up acquired goods, housing, etc. for the sake of some ghostly prospects. These are young people who still have nothing, is relatively mobile. And what about those who already have adult children and grandchildren on the way?
    1. max702
      max702 18 November 2013 11: 10
      +6
      And as a matter of fact, this is what happens, and it seems that this is the goal that our bureaucrats are pursuing by order of their masters, then everything becomes very logical, unbearable living conditions in the country are created and the most active and intelligent people (mostly young), looking at all this insanity, spit on everything breaks down beyond the cordon, and there, don't say no fools, our very civilized population also lives with a good (so far) education with hands growing from the right place with an intelligent head, with a high culture, which is also important, very useful, but they will not offer manna from heaven there but after our idiots from the government, people will be able to live everywhere and very successfully .. here is a recruiting agency called "the government of Russia"
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 18 November 2013 15: 32
      +1
      Quote: optimist
      If we continue the logic of this article, it is best to leave Russia for some Papuan
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 November 2013 15: 36
        -1
        Quote: Yarosvet
        Yarosvet

        Again dumb picture laughing Where do the poor in the USA come from?
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 18 November 2013 16: 10
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Oh, Romanov laughing - Have you forgotten how to read?
          they calculated per capita incomes (as per capita GDP - not just GDP, but income), and without taking into account the distribution.

          And the poor in the USA ... laughing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 November 2013 16: 22
            0
            Quote: Yarosvet
            And the poor in the USA.

            Well, move to America, there are paradises wassat In 1995, they were poorer than Swedes, Dutch, Germans, Norwegians, Italians, French, Finns, Danes, Canadians, Japanese, Australians, New Zealanders, Spaniards, and British. In short, they weave at the bottom of the list of countries in the "civilized world."

            Every fifth American homeless person actually has a job, but, nevertheless, he does not have enough money even to rent a room. Many live in their cars, because an old car is sometimes cheaper to buy than paying for an apartment. 15% of American families live below the poverty line. 42% of the US population lives near the poverty line. 36 million Americans are starving.
            http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/412117/ и это только 95год,сейчас еще веселее wink
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 18 November 2013 16: 39
              +6
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Well, move to America
              Where shall I go somehow I decide without you - this is the first.

              2 - your statistics are certainly impressive, but exactly until you turn on your head: they may be poorer than the Swedes, Germans, etc., but their minimum subsistence level (not noticeable minimum wage) is at the level of the average salary of the Russian Federation , and prices are generally comparable.
              If you estimate the real cost of living in the Russian Federation (which is 10 tyr for less or less nutritious food and another 10 tyr for everything else) and look at the statistics of Rosstat on the distribution of average per capita incomes, you will suddenly find out that more than 2/3 of the population of the Russian Federation lives behind the real poverty line.

              And the third - the United States, unlike the Russian Federation, is not a social state, and in our country the state is obliged to comply with the Constitution, but it happens exactly the opposite.
              1. Oskar
                Oskar 18 November 2013 17: 10
                +4
                but their minimum subsistence level (not a minimum wage) is at the level of the average salary of the Russian Federation, and prices are generally comparable.
                I have always been interested in the question: why at comparable prices (in the West and ours) wage levels are so wildly incomparable?
                1. Yarosvet
                  Yarosvet 18 November 2013 17: 18
                  +4
                  Quote: Oskar
                  I have always been interested in the question: why at comparable prices (in the West and ours) wage levels are so wildly incomparable?

                  Part of the matter is productivity - the same GDP per capita in the Russian Federation is really lower than in the USA, Germany, France, etc.

                  But the main thing is the distribution of benefits - for example, the state minimum wage established by the state: in the USA-Brazil-Portugal - this is 33% of the PPP GDP per capita, in Germany-France-Canada 40%, Australia-Cyprus (as well as some features China and Britain) 50%.
                  In Russia, in the 10th year, the minimum wage was 12% of PPP GDP per capita, and in the 12th year - 8%.
                  1. Oskar
                    Oskar 18 November 2013 17: 27
                    +2
                    Plus bloated tariffs of natural monopolies, I think.
                    1. Yarosvet
                      Yarosvet 18 November 2013 17: 54
                      +3
                      Quote: Oskar
                      Plus bloated tariffs of natural monopolies, I think.

                      Tariffs, in addition to giving unlimited profits to a narrow group of people, are also one of the multipliers of GDP, that is, they provide an opportunity not only to warm up rather weakly, but also create the appearance of fulfilling one of the election promises.


                      Quote: True
                      Do not waste your time on URAshnikov. They will understand everything themselves, only it will be too late

                      The fact of the matter is that it is too late - and you have to drown together.
              2. True
                True 18 November 2013 17: 43
                +4
                Do not waste your time on URAshnikov. They will understand everything themselves, only it will be too late. The best slave is the one who does not know about it. ... Here are the ideots of bureaucrats, children are sent to hungry America from a well-fed, prosperous Russia.
                1. Shur
                  Shur 18 November 2013 23: 15
                  0
                  In yusa, not all caviar is really smeared with butter. Children are going closer to the capital they have acquired "back-breaking" labor. And you go there with your savings and live. My uncle's son worked three jobs, fell asleep on the hoods of cars and washed warehouses and supermarkets at night. He's a fine fellow, he swam, but he was not even 20 then ...
  12. Known who
    Known who 18 November 2013 09: 36
    +9
    In order for labor to go around the country in search of jobs, it is necessary to create conditions, and for businesses to pay is to increase costs (it is better to give premiums to top managers).
    Zhirinovsky proposed exempting business and people living outside the Urals from taxes - this measure could have an economic effect (Stolypin did so), given the fact that in the Siberian Federal District (19 thousand people) and the Far Eastern Federal District (278 thousand people .) in total, no more than 6 million people live, taking into account the posts, i.e. less than 251% of the country's population.
    A holy place does not happen empty — the Russians will not occupy Siberia and the Far East — the Chinese have already come (in many of the population centers of Siberia and the Far East there are already Chinatowns).
    Who will produce oil for oligarchs? Chinese?
    1. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 23: 18
      +1
      That's right, but where are the guarantees that you will come, work, and you will be exchanged for a Chinese? Or they’ll just throw them like a black sheep if you suddenly get sick or something. These here are not building anything, and there will be nothing more there. We need people, so build housing, infrastructure, roads and more. Then they’ll just come from TV ads ..
  13. Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 18 November 2013 09: 41
    11
    Why should it not be easier to change from this government and replace it with one that will reflect our interests, and not the interests of the Deribaska and the patanin?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 November 2013 09: 42
      -3
      Quote: ICE
      Why should it not be easier to change from this government and replace it with one that will reflect our interests, and not the interests of the Deribaska and the patanin?

      Who do you want to replace, Deripaska or Potanin?
      1. max702
        max702 18 November 2013 11: 14
        +1
        Yes, really whom to change?
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Who do you want to replace, Deripaska or Potanin?
        They simply won’t let others in. They won’t allow them to shoot at a cannon shot .. but to change the power .. there isn’t enough gunpowder, the authorities have also worked on this.
      2. Internal combustion engine
        Internal combustion engine 18 November 2013 11: 32
        +1
        Communists of the Communist Party.
        1. Vanya Ivanov
          Vanya Ivanov 18 November 2013 13: 06
          +5
          oh, yes, many people, they put themselves into a trance with the soothing mantra "there is no one else to vote for" and turned off their brains (it is easier for them to live like that). These people, as they started humming THIS in the Yeltsin elections, are still unable to stop. for all elections, they mumble the same saying "there is no one for anyone ...". They so in the unconsciousness of Boris the drunk twice took in, and after the one whom the drunkard brought them by the hand, and then for the whole following carousel . and for everything they have the only answer - "and there is no one else for". there is no one else? hawai further and do not complain.
          1. Shur
            Shur 18 November 2013 23: 27
            0
            You really believe in some kind of "choice". I'm gone. One must believe in the highest justice. And these are games. It is necessary to match the image of democracy. I knew a man who always went for the Liberal Democratic Party ... Yeah ..
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 November 2013 15: 54
          +4
          Quote: ICE
          Communists of the Communist Party.

          Yeah, Zyuganov can’t sleep, he’s thinking about the people. laughing
          1. Oskar
            Oskar 18 November 2013 17: 16
            +2
            Anything more than Putin.
            1. Shur
              Shur 18 November 2013 23: 28
              -2
              Sleeps yes, everyones more;)))
        3. Shur
          Shur 18 November 2013 23: 23
          0
          Eee Putinist EPRF? laughing
      3. Shur
        Shur 18 November 2013 23: 22
        0
        Her. must be younger. These are not our comrades who knows who else they pray for, who knows who the real beneficiary is, supposedly their assets? No need young people.
  14. Snipe 74
    Snipe 74 18 November 2013 09: 43
    11
    I propose the most promising solution to the problem of single-industry towns. All unnecessary and unnecessary in the pit and from the machine gun. All . There is no more problem. But seriously, I am simply amazed at the flight of Mr. Medvedev’s imagination. Come on, show it by your own example, collect belongings, family and more ... In my city at the same time they began to build a bus station and another supermarket. Today, the bus station is built at 10-15%, and a supermarket is opening the other day. Morality. Nah ... nobody needs either production or people.
    1. Drosselmeyer
      Drosselmeyer 18 November 2013 14: 57
      +5
      They don’t need machine guns. Need, lack of medicine, unemployment, depression due to lack of prospects, and then alcohol and drugs will do their job no worse than machine guns.
      1. Yarosvet
        Yarosvet 18 November 2013 15: 40
        +4
        Quote: Drosselmeyer
        They don’t need machine guns. Need, lack of medicine, unemployment, depression due to lack of prospects, and then alcohol and drugs will do their job no worse than machine guns.

        So all of the above is already there - it remains only to wait.
      2. Shur
        Shur 18 November 2013 23: 28
        0
        True, the tactics of contrasts, there is the ghetto, and there is paradise.
  15. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 18 November 2013 09: 54
    +1
    Liberal ... What is more profitable to spend money on questionable, in all aspects, the movement of people, or on the development of production and job creation?
    1. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 23: 30
      -1
      No, it’s most profitable to stir up Skolkovo 2.0!
  16. patriot2
    patriot2 18 November 2013 09: 58
    +8
    LADIES let them take a gypsy camp, here it will be fun! Quite idiotic government level solutions!
  17. krasavchik
    krasavchik 18 November 2013 10: 00
    +4
    traveled Russia ...
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 18 November 2013 20: 59
      +1
      Quote: krasavchik
      traveled Russia ...

      if the move will be carried out on a fully equipped T-72B (B3), T-80U (UD) with air defense cover through Moscow, then I - for ...
  18. IRBIS
    IRBIS 18 November 2013 10: 04
    11
    Have you tried to revive the industry in these cities? We already have dead villages as a result of the "reform" of agriculture. Now we have reached the cities ... Are your hands itching? Eh, Russia, the country of not frightened deputies ...
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  19. Alex66
    Alex66 18 November 2013 10: 07
    +6
    Medvedev and the government are creating a new society out of obedient slaves who have nothing, a slave should not have a permanent residence, not have friends, not have a homeland that he would defend, a slave should not be formed, a slave should be controlled, etc. All this has been described more than once and no one believes in it, but it can be seen in all steps of Medvedev.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 18 November 2013 15: 43
      +5
      Quote: Alex66
      Medvedev and the government create a new society from obedient or not having slaves

      And the unfortunate chief officer alone is trying to confront this, but the forces are not equal - oh I am, how could it be ...
  20. bubla5
    bubla5 18 November 2013 10: 11
    +7
    Well, let Medvedev set an example, take his government with families and to the Far East, see how they master it with
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 18 November 2013 10: 56
      +3
      Quote: bubla5
      Well, let Medvedev set an example, take his government with families and to the Far East, see how they master it with

      And also to get those funds that people really get when they move. After all, a significant part of them is stolen.
  21. MrFYGY
    MrFYGY 18 November 2013 10: 34
    12
    they want to make people literally dogs running after the owner, and instead to populate their homeland with migrants. We do not need such power.
  22. understudy
    understudy 18 November 2013 10: 42
    +6
    By and large, a single-industry town without work, this is the spark from which it will revive ... well, in general, it will burn.
    Poznenko turned the power its wandering gaze on this problem, "limpiado" overshadowed everything? We have strange things ... the defense industry is being transferred to the production of pots. As a result, neither one nor the other. Miraculously, the remaining production base is not financed, not "modernized", but donated pennies to fattening bankers, at the same time offering the resettlement of the people to some degree, thereby stimulating the loss of workers. Not a war, but quite comparable damage. Oh yes ... in terms of the number of shopping and entertainment centers, we are still at the forefront.

    Oorfene Juice has already "relocated" military academies and what did they get in the end?
  23. Grbear
    Grbear 18 November 2013 10: 56
    +6
    The Western model of economic development (comparable to a tumor) comes into conflict with the interests of Russia as a State. "Sucking" profits directly becomes more and more expensive (the cream has been skimmed). Therefore, representatives of "business" in the government "are looking for" ways to shift problems onto the population. Officials are actively involved in this.

    Maybe so?
    <br>• Initiate a referendum distrust of the government. If the Duma does not support the initiative, then the Duma - there too.
    • Require Duma parties to hold congresses with a report on the fulfillment of promises at all levels, with publication in the media (3 months).
    • Assign RAS to develop a concept for the development of Russiawhich should become the law.
    <br>• Take immediately and ratify all corruption laws (until they become applicable, flaws will not be visible).
    • The law after the first reading (recognition of significance) is adopted within 6 months finally.
    • Propagate natural monopolies (everyone has stagnation - they have profit, and, at the expense of the domestic market)

    Monotowns - these are formations that were once vital for the country - have become an indicator of the direction of the existing government. Do I need it?
    IMHO hi .
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 18 November 2013 16: 41
      +2
      ... and to introduce articles into the Criminal Code of the RSFSR on crimes in the field of state property and official crimes - it will be fun (or even better to return fully) ...
    2. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 23: 33
      0
      It will come to ships and landings of true reformers, it will not work. Be careful. Such suggestions here can be regarded as, you know what. The guys from Omsk have already been locked under such a bench.
  24. Vityok
    Vityok 18 November 2013 11: 00
    +6
    It's high time for the iPhone and his team to move! change the Kremlin to the Far East. "And you friends, no matter how you sit down, all are not suitable for musicians" !!! recourse
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 18 November 2013 16: 49
      +1
      Quote: Vitek
      It's high time for the iPhone and his team to move! change the Kremlin to the Far East. "And you friends, no matter how you sit down, all are not suitable for musicians" !!! recourse

      Let them populate the New Earth ... The iPhone reminds me of this character:
  25. SolomonSS
    SolomonSS 18 November 2013 11: 01
    +2
    I read many messages, many in passing. Everybody knows that our government is "corrupt shit," which fills its pocket. Of course, many talk about a change of government, but the change is either a revolution (which the majority will not agree to) or a color revolution (as it is fashionable to say), but whoever offers this kind of revolution, they generally want to finish off a state called Russia. It turns out the choice is not great.
    What will happen in the next election, we do not know what candidates, either. But I personally assume that they will all be puppets as they are now, politics is a theater, and we are shown a performance in which all the people are in the back seats !!!
    I personally hope that there will be a column "AGAINST ALL". Maybe such elections will make the country's leadership think about what the people need.
    1. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 23: 37
      0
      Yes, on .. all the graphs, it’s necessary to bravely unite and go by ourselves to occupy everything there. The community must be revived. Take the earth. This last will be taken away. They are simply ignored, paid and normal, they will always take it. If all the people willfully send them and will live by faith, community fraternally, then where will they go? Look how they are creeping in front of the highlanders .. They all carry.
  26. Garysit
    Garysit 18 November 2013 11: 08
    +2
    And you can’t move the entire government, headed by Medvedev to Kolyma, for example, to cut down the forest or to do something else useful, the management will show a good example ....
  27. understudy
    understudy 18 November 2013 11: 16
    +3
    Quote: SolomonSS
    I personally hope that there will be a column "AGAINST ALL".

    If this "graph" wins, then the current leadership will continue to "rule" ... until the new elections. And if the situation repeats itself, then a bit more. And so on ad infinitum.
    The tumor is cut off at a time, not pieces. It turns out more humane.
    1. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 23: 39
      0
      And if no one comes, they will self-select. You will see :)))
  28. Vladimir65
    Vladimir65 18 November 2013 11: 49
    +3
    Quote: SolomonSS
    what are the goals of our government
    It is clear and "hedgehog". To completely destroy the remnants of industry, to bring people to complete impoverishment with subsequent suicide and extinction. Where they themselves do not die, they will help using second-hand foreign equipment after Africa.
    1. True
      True 18 November 2013 18: 33
      +2
      Our beloved is preparing a revolution with the ensuing civil war. After this, they no longer rise. Specially, the country was de-industrialized, the international theme was fanned ... The figures are arranged.
  29. Neighbor
    Neighbor 18 November 2013 11: 56
    +3
    The "indifference" of the authorities in relation to the electorate is simply stunning. Moreover, if a person is deprived of his "small homeland", will he still have patriotism in relation to his big homeland?
    1. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 23: 43
      0
      She’s a chatterbox to her, I’ll see how he is Tatars, Bashkirs, Caucasians will be resettled. They now see him in the plane. Pioneer leader over. Yes, a shackler, yes .. and they will do their part stubbornly, even kill. Well done they ..
  30. Max otto
    Max otto 18 November 2013 11: 58
    +4
    Government officials came up with a proposal to move the unoccupied population of such settlements as the same Tutaev, for example, to the Far East ...

    Brilliant !!!!!! And then privatize and sell the land with homies. As O. Bender used to say - This is congenial, Kitty!
    I look at this and think: they are doing everything to get bribes (about decisions to pay 400 thousand rubles for departure) and to cut loot. They do nothing for the country, NOTHING! At a recent meeting, on the consequences of the flood, D. Medvedev talked about insurance, about insurance, he bl ... talked! Insurance is a de facto business, and no one has ever received their money in full. Those. they do anything, they just don’t solve the problem. Neither the restoration of communications, nor the importation of cheap building materials in huge volumes does not bother him at all. Insurance.
  31. nekromonger
    nekromonger 18 November 2013 12: 16
    +5
    people from the Far East to the center are not fleeing from a good life, but because of the disorder and lack of prospects. And the iPhone is going to lure people there with fairy tales about a better life
  32. Clegg
    Clegg 18 November 2013 12: 40
    0
    If the company's products are not in demand, it is necessary to close the company.
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 18 November 2013 14: 59
      +2
      Here, the enterprises have closed. Where to put people? what
      1. Gato
        Gato 18 November 2013 17: 27
        +1
        Quote: kaktus
        Here, the enterprises have closed. Where to put people?

        Relocate to the Far East. And if they do not want?
    2. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 23: 45
      0
      It is necessary to change the profile and modernize production. And these are the same social projects. I understand you close it there or not, no difference, but here the people are still working.
  33. Watchman
    Watchman 18 November 2013 12: 42
    +4
    And why Serdyukov does not sit, but occupies a post in "Russian Technologies"?
    1. builder
      builder 18 November 2013 13: 16
      +2
      Quote: Watchman
      And why Serdyukov does not sit, but occupies a post in "Russian Technologies"?

      He sits at Russian Technologies.
    2. Gato
      Gato 18 November 2013 23: 20
      0
      Quote: Watchman
      And why does <namerek> not sit, but occupy a post

      This, it seems to me, is already the third eternal Russian question after "who is to blame" and "what to do"
    3. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 23: 46
      +1
      His mission is, he is like your Yanukovych "in law".
  34. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 18 November 2013 13: 09
    +3
    The government once again signed in its impotence to solve problems in the country
    1. Letterksi
      Letterksi 18 November 2013 13: 41
      +4
      She solves them the way she was taught.

      We are like sheep who talk about the inefficiency of the slaughterhouse, who cannot allow the thought that the slaughterhouse for its owner works very efficiently, pumping meat (us) into our profit
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 18 November 2013 15: 47
      +6
      Quote: Dimon-chik-79
      The government once again signed in its impotence to solve problems in the country
  35. 10kAzAk01
    10kAzAk01 18 November 2013 13: 31
    +2
    it’s reprehensible to call our East Far, but it should be called “the Pacific zone” or “Pacific region”), then payments can grow up to 800 thousand. The state is going to allocate about 18 billion rubles for these needs (of which 20% are from the regions - obviously the receiving regions).

    "badge-fly" give me this amount, I will move my whole family there ... and parents ... and grandmother ... and neighbors ...
    1. Gato
      Gato 18 November 2013 17: 29
      +1
      Quote: 10kAzAk01
      and neighbors ..

      I also! I will stay alone! laughing
    2. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 23: 47
      0
      Where to? In a pure field and heat (from the word there is no heat)?
  36. antonio
    antonio 18 November 2013 14: 02
    +2
    And they say there were no enemies of the people ... See these from the unfinished ..
    When will our citizens already resettle these unfortunate reformers in Yamal or better in Oymyakon.
    Instead of working, they deal with projections and let the snot go in the wind. Some geeks of words are simply not there !! These are ardent Russophobes, here Thatcher and Bzezhinsky are resting, Russians out of Russia, but you are welcome to the Asiatic wild.
  37. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 18 November 2013 14: 11
    +4
    Former Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov headed the Federal Research Testing Center for Engineering, the former head of the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense of Russia Evgenia Vasilyeva got a job as a lawyer at the law firm “Gridnev & Partners”.
    life is getting better
  38. dropout
    dropout 18 November 2013 14: 12
    +1
    Not much not on the topic. How talented our people are. On the same day, when Onishchenko was appointed assistant to Medvedev, I read on the net: - "To what extent" Medved "has sunk - they have already assigned an orderly to him."
  39. Avenich
    Avenich 18 November 2013 14: 18
    +1
    Following such government logic, to get state support, the Far East need to urgently leave their region, and then move back into it ...

    Rather, it is a complete lack of logic.
    And on my own I’ll say that at one time I left one mono-village (mink production), to a single-industry town (radio factory), now I moved to a larger single-industry town (buzines), now, apparently, hach ​​Moskva, since I'm not sure that in the Far East polycities will appear, and Russia slowly and confidently, led by our wise government, is shrinking to the limits of the Garden Ring.
  40. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 18 November 2013 14: 29
    +3
    They would keep at least those who live in the Far East from moving, but did not build "Napoleonic plans"
  41. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 18 November 2013 14: 51
    +2
    I would like to hear from the Russian government where is that paradise where to move? To the Far East? Recently, Russia watched a story on TV and, to its surprise, found out that a village paramedic in the Ussuri Territory received 185 dollars of salary. In our poor Ukraine, rural paramedics receive a salary of more than two hundred dollars, but we do not produce oil and produce very little gas. And what kind of housing can you buy with the money from the government, where to work in the Far East? There is no sugar there for the locals and it is sparse with work, plus fires, floods, typhoons regularly.
    The massive resettlement of people will only entail the creation of lumpen, without any values, people who will live today and who will have nothing to pass on to their children and will have no time to educate them. In the United States, such people among whites are called "white trash". They are very mobile - they live in trailers.
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 18 November 2013 14: 54
      0
      Why did you decide that in the Far East there is not a lot of work. Work sea
      1. Gato
        Gato 18 November 2013 17: 32
        +1
        Quote: ivshubarin
        Work sea

        Yes, work is everywhere the sea. Only with salaries is not a lot.
  42. dnh70
    dnh70 18 November 2013 15: 04
    +1
    can it be better to establish modern engine production in this monograd?
    1. 10kAzAk01
      10kAzAk01 18 November 2013 15: 58
      +2
      can it be better to establish modern engine production in this monograd?

      I also think that it would have been more economically profitable than resettling the entire city, the more the infrastructure is all there, and in a new place everything is needed with "O"
      1. ivshubarin
        ivshubarin 18 November 2013 16: 04
        +2
        Tutaev diesel engines went to BAZ and MAZ missile carriers, an almost strategic product
      2. Shur
        Shur 18 November 2013 23: 51
        +1
        This is where the devil lies; laundering from scratch is very beneficial. Multiplication by zero is obtained and the whole difference is in off-pocket pockets. Nanotechnology however laughing
  43. Alex-z84
    Alex-z84 18 November 2013 15: 57
    +1
    Quote: Kahlan Amnell
    Yes, that's just our company without any state support prinаforce dаmove, as it’s Russian, if not mеflat monаadd-on sheetачи Apatite, part of the FOSAGRO holding


    Young man, go back to school, at the desk!

    Let's do without sarcasm! Perhaps it would also be convenient for you to type text on the small touch buttons of the phone while driving?
    1. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 23: 52
      -1
      I’m going to school, I’ll send him a tuition bill.
  44. IOwTZ
    IOwTZ 18 November 2013 16: 25
    +3
    Quote: SolomonSS
    Yeah, it’s impossible to solve by the principle that the hand hurts is a problem, there is no hand, there is no problem ...
    The ingenious decision was said by Alf (who remembers the 90th Alf alien series, or something like that):
    "-Alf we have a lot of homeless people !!!
    -We will build houses.
    -Alf we have a lot of unemployed !!!
    -We have no unemployed! They are already building houses! "

    To avoid the unemployed, it is necessary to build production! Instead of chopping off your hand. And in general, in every such city "monocity" (as the government called it), there were factories, and more than one during the USSR, which makes it difficult to restore them.

    The most interesting thing is that the UAE build wonders of the world one by one, erect artificial islands, at the expense of oil. But our country takes out timber, sells gas, oil, copper, gold, silver, etc. ... and what we see ... broken roads, Khrushchevs, not one new plant.

    We draw conclusions, gentlemen, who is "at the helm" and what goals our government pursues.


    On December 19, we’ll listen to tales on TV. There will be another lulling. And for us he will seem dear, simple, folk, his peasant, etc. We’ll laugh, a couple of jokes for the people will be poisoned, on the contrary, people’s representatives with patriotic faces, will answer convenient questions, tell us how we live better, the worker will have fun. In fact, we will buy Boeing, airbuses, they will tell us about our carcasses that they are under-planes, but we are moving forward and by 20 ... we will show a new Russian airliner. They will also tell us (as it was in 2003) that by 2008 the President of the Russian Federation will have a limousine based on ZIL. It’s the end of 2013 in the yard, and so far the manager cannot coordinate the designs (in general, we drive a Mercedes and work for the economies of other countries). So in all directions.
  45. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 18 November 2013 16: 56
    +4
    Read to the end. A good example of a thoughtless attitude of the authorities towards the people.
    I never cease to be amazed at the grandiose plans of our "thinkers".
    Maybe Medvedev will set an example, but the first will break with his family on a trip to Russia in search of work?
    Check in your own skin what it means to relocate. They say this is equivalent to a fire.
    The fact is that Kremlin policy itself artificially creates such situations.
    Take for example the Kaluga region.
    According to Interfax, among the basic enterprises of the region, which went into production 200 thousand cars a year Volkswagen concern factoryjoint venture french PSA Peugeot Citroen and Japanese Mitsubishi with an annual production volume of 125 thousand cars and a truck factory Volvo Group Trucks. There now they collect 6 thousand cars a year. “Three base manufacturers in the region produce 15 car models. Also 24 enterprises operatethat produce auto parts. The 25th will open tomorrow, ”said Artamonov. The 25th enterprise is to become the Chinese factory for the production of automotive glass Fuyao Glass. Its opening is provided by the program "AutoEvolution 2013".
    I am happy for Kaluga, honestly. They were lucky, but ...
    Not bold, for one area?
    But next to the poor and abandoned Bryansk, Smolensk, Pskov regions, and Oryol too.
    Even one of the listed industries for these areas would be very helpful ..
    No, nothing of the kind happens. There is a quiet killing of hundreds of cities. People will leave - only desert territories will remain there.
    It is interesting that our first faces and their children were fed according to the principle: to one everything - to the other nothing?
    1. Altona
      Altona 18 November 2013 18: 31
      +2
      Kaluga authorities are safe and competent ... Under the Soviet regime, such a positive experience would have been transferred to other territories long ago ...
      1. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 18 November 2013 20: 44
        +1
        Altona
        Quote: Altona
        Kaluga authorities are safe and competent ... Under the Soviet regime, such a positive experience would have been transferred to other territories long ago ...

        Rather, the authorities caught the necessary rules of conduct.
        For this and the gifts are strewn with the gentleman's shoulder.
        In other regions, dear, not everything is so simple.
        One of the reasons is the strong pro-communist views of the population of these regions, the so-called. "red belt". The GDP traditionally has a very low percentage of support here.
        And, as you know, GDP doesn’t forgive such an attitude towards its person.
        With all the consequences ...
    2. Stinger
      Stinger 18 November 2013 20: 30
      0
      Yes. After reading the suggestions of our own Platons, I also had an idea. But is it not better for all of us to fold, give them a million of wood (why trifle!), And send them to the Far East, to help the republic.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 19 November 2013 04: 31
        +8
        And what have the Far East done to you badly, for what is such punishment for them?
  46. anip
    anip 18 November 2013 17: 14
    +4
    If there is a problem of single-industry towns, then what prevents the allocation of funds for the development of production in those same cities, rather than allocating the same funds for relocation?
    And another thought: under this brand they will again give money to the Dagis and Chechens, otherwise there will be few of them left from their republics.
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 18 November 2013 18: 03
      +2
      Quote: anip
      What prevents to direct funds for the development of production in those same cities, and not to allocate the same funds for moving?


      For example, this:
  47. Altona
    Altona 18 November 2013 18: 29
    +4
    A dumb system ... Medved can’t think of the current ... The Soviet government, on the contrary, built enterprises to give employment on the territory, and the current ones are exactly the opposite ... That is, take your greatcoat to your grandfather’s village too ... shook himself, and in Nizhny Novgorod, and in Chelyabinsk ... Who is there waiting for a stranger? Everyone has known each other there for a long time ... The economy consists in developing the natural advantages of the territories — minerals, natural resources, transit situation, educational environment ... Mlyn, there’s no power left for Medved, take Hasselblad by the strap, yes light up the forehead with a lens ... am
    And the money for resettlement will be successfully "mastered" ... They will be given to their own people, for the first time chtoli?
  48. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 18 November 2013 18: 42
    +2
    in this volume I agree with only one thing - to give each family 800 thousand rubles and that’s all, and further develop the construction of enterprises
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 19 November 2013 17: 54
      0
      And what can be done for 800 thousand rubles? In my opinion, a normal house, not mansions, but a normal well-maintained house or apartment - can’t be bought with this money, if only in these single-industry towns, only a few can build it themselves, and even that is unlikely to be enough money.
      1. soldier's grandson
        soldier's grandson 19 November 2013 18: 33
        0
        enough to build a one-story bathhouse
  49. admrall
    admrall 18 November 2013 21: 11
    0
    Quote: PSih2097
    Quote: Zifix
    Well, and we just have incomparable volumes of oil sales per capita with the UAE,

    Gas prices with diesel fuel and gas, too (7 cents in the UAE and $ 1,3 with us) ...

    this is where you have 40 rubles gasoline in our country in Siberia 29 rubles.
  50. Sharp
    Sharp 18 November 2013 21: 33
    +2
    Kirdyk to single-industry towns .....