Results of the week. "A thief should sit in jail!"

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Citizens, this is abuse

Rostec has confirmed that former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov works as the general director of the Federal Research Test Center for Mechanical Engineering.



“With 1 in November 2013, Anatoly Serdyukov works as the general director of the Federal Research Testing Center for Mechanical Engineering. FIITS M is on the balance sheet of the Federal Property Management Agency and is part of one of Rostec's holdings, RT-Auto,” the corporation said.

The opposition in the State Duma believes that the appointment of former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov as head of the Federal Research Test Center for Mechanical Engineering is incorrect with respect to citizens and will lead to a deterioration of the situation in the industry, but the EP believes that Serdyukov’s experience may be needed in his new job.

Rostec has confirmed the appointment of Serdyukov to the post in the state corporation


Deputies call the appointment of Serdyukov a direct challenge to society


And it’s true that this “experienced business manager”, as the former minister called United State Duma deputy Vladimir Gutenev, was without work ... Of course, it was just such a person that Rostec lacked: there was probably no one attach "in a large scale" ... Vacancy for some time was unclaimed, and then someone in his, naturally, bright head flashed a brilliant idea: let us appoint Anatoly Serdyukov as CEO - an unemployed man, his family (and not only family) need to be fed, and in fact people in the rank are figured Comrade witnesses to appoint directors under our laws are not even prohibited at all ...

A spokesman for the country's president, Dmitry Peskov, immediately stated: “This agreement did not require coordination” - they say, they took Anatoly Serdyukov to work at the state corporation without even knowing the Kremlin ... And Peskov also noted that there were no formal obstacles for the appointment of Serdyukov there was no ... So of course not - who would doubt ...

But seriously, the appointment of Serdyukov as general director of a federal company is what? It is state-owned companies! What's this?! To say that this is a mockery - to say nothing. This, excuse me, outrage ... Outrage is not even so much over the citizens of Russia (we are gray people, our opinion is not taken into account “there”), but above the law and conscience. Abuse of representatives of authorities over themselves. This, excuse me, is generally the rape of the state legal system in a particularly perverted form. What else can you say ... Curtain.

Comments from our readers:

Andrei332809:
Why is it impossible to express on the site? it is necessary to provide for exceptional cases !!!


Nikolai S .:
In light of this newsmaybe those who spoke of the party of crooks and thieves are not so wrong.


Domokl:
I sit and think - wipe or not ... Wiping - why? Not to wipe is disgusting ... Today, personally, I, and probably many others, spat into my soul. To the innermost ... Where there was something else ... About justice, honor, dignity ... I understand that I’m probably angry, but I’m going to stay on this question ...


Chervonets:
It seems that only a sniper will save the country from Serdyukov ...


Moscow and Belgrade draw to each other

Moscow and Belgrade have signed an agreement on military cooperation. For this step, as noted by the head of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, the parties have been preparing 15 years. Sergei Shoigu not only noted the importance of military-technical cooperation between the two countries, but also spoke about some further plans. Now the military of the two states will exchange experience, information and conduct joint exercises. In the Serbian Chamber, the Russian minister was met by his Serbian colleague Nebojsa Rodic.



Following the talks, the parties concluded an agreement on military cooperation. Three more documents are under preparation and can be signed soon.

Russia and Serbia agree on military cooperation


Historically, such an agreement should have appeared between our states sooner or later. True, it is not entirely clear how far the agreements on military cooperation with Russia fit into the plans of present-day Serbia, whose leadership seems to have finally set its sights on the path of comprehensive integration with the EU. Did some of the most sensible politicians of Serbia wake up and realize that the European Union needed Serbia only for one thing - for contention, and now it has been spent material, which means the EU has moved on to promises of a “fast” paradise life ...

It now remains to wait for lamentations from Kosovo. Pristina, after all, military cooperation between Serbia and Russia is like a sickle on ... barley.

Comments from our readers:

Sasha.28blaga:

Base to Serbia.


Itr:
... the base is not needed there, and you can drink blood to their neighbors with such visits, let them sit and think.


Old very:

SERBIA - Srbia, the only country in Europe that did not go to war with Russia. Since the time of the Most Serene Prince Grigory Potemkin, the Serbs served in the Russian Army and fought worthily for Russia. It's time to forget the past insults, it's time to continue the century-long friendship. Both sisters will become stronger!


Peaceful military:
Serbia, through the efforts of the rulers, is breaking into the EU and NATO, so, of course, we must do something, somehow try to influence.


Major071:
The situation in Serbia, like in Ukraine. The people are drawn to Russia, and the current leadership falls under the west.


Socialist Vietnam and capitalist Korea

A large-scale overseas tour of the Russian president takes place this week. The first point of the route was designated Vietnam, where on Tuesday Vladimir Putin arrived to meet with Vietnamese President Truong Tan Shang.



The official visit of the Russian leader to Hanoi was timed to the opening of the Days of Russian Culture in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (this is the full name of Vietnam, making everyone understand that today not only states remain on the world map, but also very successfully develop states with a socialist management model).

After visiting Vietnam, Vladimir Putin went to the Republic of Korea (South Korea). Here the Russian president met with President Park Geun-hye.

Vladimir Putin in Vietnam and South Korea: and return to Cam Ranh, and the abolition of visas


Perhaps the main news of the East Asian tour of Vladimir Putin can be considered an agreement on the participation of Russian specialists in the work of the military-technical base in Cam Ranh (Vietnam). It was in Kamrani before 2002 that the military base of the Russian Navy was located, which was disbanded in that year. Now there is every chance not only for a full-fledged economic rapprochement between Russia and Vietnam (as early as next year an agreement will be prepared governing Vietnam’s entry into the common economic space with the Customs Union), but also high-quality military-technical cooperation with Russia's full return to Cam Ranh. Well, if the Russian base reappears in this Vietnamese port, then how much our Western “partners” will be happy about this fact! .. In another case, they would have thought about creating a no-fly zone, but here is Vietnam ... such zones over the sky of Vietnam at one time were “effective”, can tell colleagues, for example, John McCain ...

Comments from our readers:

Makarov:
From these actions of Putin, the authority of the Russian Federation naturally grows. This is all a balanced systematic approach to politics, and it is bearing fruit.


Sergey72:
Good day, forum users! Well, that came true ... I remember a couple of months ago I wrote about the return of Russia to Cam Ranh ... and was ridiculed, but now it's nice to know that I was right!


Stasi:
Russia has returned to Vietnam, and will make up for the loss of the 90's over the period. Now it is not just about opening a base in Cam Ranh, but about the accession of Vietnam to the CU. I am sure that over time, South Korea will join the CU, the Koreans are becoming increasingly disillusioned with the Americans as allies. We will wait for news about the resumption of cooperation with Cuba and the opening of the base in Lourdes.


"You do not take care of yourself, Yuri Venediktovich! You care about the people"

The outgoing week in Russia was rich in economic events. Several important points at once are worth highlighting especially how to single out and react to these economic moments from the business community, government agencies and a number of media.



One news is connected with the fact that the State Duma (or rather the deputy from the LDPR faction Mikhail Degtyaryov) once again preoccupied with the fate of the dollar in Russia, calling for the cancellation of the dollar turnover and custody of the American currency.

Another news is Dmitry Medvedev's proposal to take a prepayment for housing and utilities services from Russians.

Over dollars get into stockings?


So, the deputy Degtyaryov, not for the first time, by the way, calls upon him to refuse handling and storing dollars. Well, calls - this is, like, good. But it only calls something strange ... He says that at first the Russian people must express their distrust of the dollar - if he (the people) have gray-green papers, then you need to urgently run into exchange offices and convert them into rubles. And only then, when the people will be finally freed from the dollars, the state will enter into business and the state will go to exchange “its own” dollars for rubles. Why did the liberal democrat decide in his bill to dwell on just such a sequence — he didn’t explain ... Well, he didn’t, he didn’t, we’ll guess it ourselves ...

But a much more enchanting proposal came from the head of the Russian government, Dmitry Medvedev. Dmitry Anatolyevich decided to attend to the fate of citizens even more and put forward the idea that we should pay for utilities not after they were provided, but a month in advance ... That is, if now, for example, we pay for the November utilities services to 10 December, then we will pay until November 10. Well, this is the same as if a person, having entered the store, immediately went to the checkout counter - to pay for the goods that he is only going to buy ...

In this regard, I do not even want to think about whether full-scale housing and communal services will be provided if companies start receiving money from the public in advance. Many companies will surely be tempted to under-serve, save, under-allow ...

One gets the impression that Prime Minister Medvedev took the path of complete political "BDSM". No, well, in fact - that no decision, then the reason to once again talk about mistrust to the government. Or is there a competition for the title of the best "political bredogenerator" ...

Comments from our readers:

Sancho:
Eh! Daaaaa! Guys are still flowers before the start of something even more bad.

Created by the Ministry of Housing! In general, I am still in shock ... According to the statements of "this" minister, now we will pay extra. fees for overhaul housing! I understand that everything that used to be in the funds has already been stolen, and it is necessary to replenish the funds. Then DAME announced that it would be necessary to pay for housing until the 10-s of the month, i.e. forward! Not getting another service, .... is it like?
I put everything in a pile, and all the statements of individual liberastov (minors), sit and think! Where else to put money, who to give, donate?


Asgard:
The draft law proposed by the Samara deputy (very YOUNG))) says to criminalize the society, that is, they will come to you - will search and you - you will find dollars - in prison, punishments, will understand ... it means the DRAFT LAW) )))))

And not the creation of conditions for the refusal of the economy and society from dollar dependence and the transfer of funds to the REAL ECONOMY, after all, rubles (NOW)) is a derivative of the dollar .....

Medvedev offered to pay for housing and communal services - to the population, ADVANCES ...
That is, the old women must come to the "Fast Money" to take a loan under 178% and pay for the services of "thieves", and then with a small pension to give money to the merchants, which will automatically make payments for apartments CERTAIN EVEN FOR THE EMPLOYERS.


"Soldier, eat carrots, onions and horseradish - you will be like Sophia Loren"

By December 1, the remaining 835 canteens will be finally transferred to military personnel units of the Ministry of Defense of Russia for the organization of catering for personnel with elements of the “buffet”. This will allow the soldier, based on preferences, to make an independent choice from cooked dishes.



Moreover, the assortment of dishes will be increased: catering provides for the preparation of two first courses, three cold snacks and salad bar ingredients, as well as meat (fish) dishes and side dishes, five types of juices or drinks (fruit drinks).

By December, the Russian army will move to the "buffet"

As the saying goes: “I lived this way so much ...” One can only be glad for the modern fighter. No, well, in fact, if even 15-20 years ago there was found such a “Nostradamus”, which would have predicted that from 2013, in the army, conscripts would be treated with five types of juices, three kinds of snacks and other gastronomic delights, then such “Nostradamus” "Would have been cast with pearl barley or legendary soldier" bigus "...

The main thing is that after such innovations with salads and bars in the army, these bars are also not legalized ... And another important detail is that all the calories received by the fighters are effectively spent on drill, fire, physical and other types of training, and not turn into "Shape number six" - a layer of subcutaneous fat seals ...

Comments from our readers:

Lyapis:
Here much depends on the size of the part. I remember in the schoolbook (in which there were about one and a half thousand l / s) they also fed very mediocre (and, by the way, had to watch history with the arrival of the big bosses). Later I went on a business trip to one small part (fewer than a hundred soldiers), so they were fed like at home! Anyway, there was always a choice of 2-3 options for each dish. So, also kind of like a mini buffet.


Alez:
Three cold appetizers and salad bar ingredients ???? I did not understand something, the snack goes to the alcohol. Where is the wine list?


Tersky:
If only not the Swedish "family" ...


"Pots" goes to India

On November 16, the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier was handed over to the Indian side. Vikramaditya immediately becomes the flagship of the Indian military fleet. This aircraft carrier is a deep modernization of the Soviet aircraft carrier cruiser Admiral Gorshkov.



Tomorrow the aircraft carrier Vikramaditya will be handed over to Indian sailors


The execution of the contract was long.

An Indian delegation headed by Defense Minister Arakkarambil Anthony arrived in Severodvinsk to receive the ship. The signatures on the transfer document were put on: from the Indian side, Suraj Berri (aircraft carrier commander), from the Russian side - Rosoboronexport deputy head Igor Sevastyanov. The Indian flag soared over the warship ...

The upgraded aircraft carrier received an updated navigation equipment, a special springboard for take-off Mig-29K, a modern deck, control systems. In India, the arrival of an aircraft carrier is expected at the end of January next year - after a long hike.

Business is business, but after all something that hurts the soul still remains ...

Comments from our readers:

Igor36:

Of course, it is time to close this contract, it is also necessary to upgrade our ships.


Mihan:
Well, seven feet under the keel! Although he will fly under the Indian flag, and his soul is Russian!


Avg:
The most important thing is that the day after tomorrow, it will not be returned to the factory workers for repairing the boilers.


Poland lit ...

11 November, Poland celebrated Independence Day with the fact that the nationalist youth attacked our diplomatic mission. Participants of the “March of Independence”, and about 50 thousand people took part in it, threw the Russian embassy with flares, burned down the police booth, outraged the Russian flag. Clashes with the police began. According to authorities, 19 people were injured, of whom 14 had to be hospitalized.



The Russian Foreign Ministry demanded an official apology from the Polish authorities and compensation for the damage caused by the "excesses".

"Jeszcze Polska nie zginela". Russophobia as a result of the rejection of the imperial project


Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski expressed his apologies to Russia in a somewhat peculiar form:
On behalf of the Polish state, it is necessary to apologize, while recognizing that the image of Poland has already been seriously damaged. Of course, there are many interested centers in Russia and elsewhere to use this to create the impression that Poland is a Russophobic country.


From the words of the Polish president, it follows that Russia is indirectly to blame for what happened, since, according to Komorowski, there is also an “interested center” in Russia, which blackens Poland, turning it into a Russophobic country. They say that you water yourself there, from which our Polish nationalists have nerves and loosen, and if their nerves are loosened, they pull them on flag-burning and the roar in the style of “beat the Russians - save Polska”.

Well, such Polish nervous breakdowns in turn turn into fertile soil for responses. One of these reactions was demonstrated already by the Russian national bolsheviks, speaking with posters: “Russia - from Warsaw to Port Arthur” and recalling the 1612. The most violent "expanders of Russian borders" were detained ...

Here and "we are on friendly terms houses" ...

Comments from our readers:

Smile:
In my opinion, the problem of Poland was that it had territorial claims to all its neighbors without exception. The problem is that its main goal was to seize and enslave half (in the 20 century, they still suppressed appetites) of Russia, and this excluded even the idea of ​​cooperating with us, albeit with a view to self-preservation. And finally, the problem is that Polska Juber Alles thundered too loudly in their empty little heads. In fact, the psychology of the Polish leadership was not very different from the psychology of the leaders of the 3 Reich, and the aspirations and methods were the same. But their characteristic arrogance so clouded their minds that they managed to lift the tail on Hitler, who was considered an ally of them.
But the most important problem: "God did not give horns to the bodily cow."


Vladsolo56:
I still think that the majority of Poles treat Russia calmly, if not indifferently. They have their own problems. But there are a certain number without brains, which are customers (Russophobia as a diagnosis). Unscrupulous politicians use their goals to do this. You would think that in Russia there are none.


Zub46:
It was not just that our ancestors, when they heard the first lines of the Polish anthem "Польe Polska did not disappear", added: "But I’ve already given a scent!"


Syrian letter

В your blog El Murid published a letter from a Syrian. We give it completely:



“In connection with the blockade of Syria and the sanctions against its economy by the West, the United States and most Arab countries, our country is in a difficult position.
Our state has signed contracts for the supply of fruits and vegetables to Russia, and these contracts involve the exchange of goods, that is, Russia will pay for its fruit with its own goods - milk formulas, medicines and other important goods necessary for the survival of the population of the whole state.
In November, deliveries of citrus fruits to Russia should start, which we have a lot of.
Therefore, I want to appeal to everyone: buying tangerines, oranges, please take Syrian ones.
Please support the Syrian people, children, farmers.
Buying Syrian fruits, you do not support any side of the conflict, but only give hope to the Syrian people for the future, which they are trying to take away from them.
I appeal to you again. Syrian fruits are no worse than Turkish, Spanish, and maybe better, so when buying, please ask only them.
Further goods such as olives and olive oil will also be received.
And the last. Please spread this information so that a maximum of people can find out about it. Thanks in advance for your help.
P.S. This year Syria has a record citrus harvest. The 400-500 thousand tons will be exported. ”


Geopolitical mosaic: Syrian opposition decided to participate in the “Geneva-2”, and John Kerry explained to the world community that Americans are not blind and not stupid


Comments from our readers:

Stiletto
Syrian fruit. Make a note. As soon as they appear with us, we will support Syria with a ruble with our daughter. If only this money went to its destination ...


Sakmagon
... and carefully look at them before buying ... more, our “sales”, after having been prosecuted for such a company, will begin to sculpt the label “Made in Syria” even for lard and pine nuts.


Dove of peace

According to Foreign Policy, Saudi Arabia in Jordan is building up an army of thousands of people in 50, with the help of Pakistani instructors, transmitting Mixednews.ru with reference to the Voltaire network.



It is also noteworthy that the article in “Foreign Policy” appeared after John Kerry’s trip to Riyadh in order to restore good relations between the countries.

And one more news about Riyadh. The media confirm the information that Saudi Arabia has decided to give up its place in the UN Security Council.

As transmits RIA News"Saudi Arabia yesterday in writing notified UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon of its decision to refuse a seat on the Security Council.

According to the letter, Saudi Arabia "is not able to take a seat on the Security Council, where she was elected on October 17." The document was signed by the Permanent Representative of Saudi Arabia to the UN, Abdullah Moallimi. The text also states that his country is still ready to cooperate with the UN "for the benefit of peace and development in the world."

UN Representative Martin Nesyrki confirmed to reporters that Ban Ki-moon received a letter from Saudi Arabia.

As RIA “Novosti” reminds, Saudi Arabia refused membership in the UN Security Council for the 2014-2015 years. She motivated this decision, including the Council’s inability to cope with problems in the Middle East.

We will add on our own refusal of a place in the Security Council and building up the army under the supervision of the Pakistanis — logical links of one chain. As for the statements of readiness to cooperate with the UN "for the benefit of peace and development in the world", this is the real Saudi black humor. “The blessing of the world” is the world Sharia under the control of the Wahhabis, and the “development” is the carpet bombing humanitarian of Damascus, about which some peacekeepers dream and have lost peace and night.

Geopolitical mosaic: Saudi Arabia plans to attack Syria, while in North Korea wages have increased a hundred times


Comments from our readers:

svp67
A serious factor. I would like to know the called "contingent", and it is very similar to the Arab Foreign Legion, by the way, also previously located in Jordan ...


Corsair
Apparently, this is ZHZHZH for a reason, since the impressive cruising group of the Russian Navy of the Russian Federation has been put forward into the Mediterranean.


Cost of democracy

The inability of the so-called Libyan authorities, who replaced the “Gaddafi regime”, to manage not only the country, but at least individual regions, led to chaos and the actual split of the state’s territory. Areas of Libya are controlled by militant groups, which Western journalists prefer to refer to as “rebels”. These people, the current government still persuades to go to the public service (that is, the army). But who will serve the government, which has neither authority, nor political experience, nor serious repressive machinery? "Rebels" prefer to defend their own interests with their own forces. As for the locals, who are suffering as a result of constant attacks and exchanges of fire between the factions, they believe that Libya has become Somalia.



On November 7, militants from Misurata, the city where former opponents of Muammar Gaddafi were concentrated, invaded Tripoli. The attack immediately consolidated those groups that control Tripoli. At the head of those who repulsed the aliens was the Suk al-Jumaa group. On both sides - several dead, wounded. There are information about several dozen affected civilians.

Militants from Misrata broke into Tripoli in jeeps. Machine guns and machine guns are far from all that they and their opponents were armed with. In the course were launched grenade launchers, mortars and even anti-aircraft guns. Aliens from Misrata, as the media writes, came to avenge their commander.

The words of one resident of Tripoli leads the channel "Euronews":

“Unfortunately, the army cannot protect us, ordinary people. Our houses, apartments are under constant shelling, there is nowhere to be saved ... This is no longer Libya, this is Somalia ... You see, it is starting again, and we are forced to live in such a situation and fear for our lives. ”


The fighting in Tripoli is only one side of the very “democratization” that befell Libya with the murder of Colonel Gaddafi.

Recently it became known that representatives of one of the rebel movements in eastern Libya took control of several oil ports and even announced the creation of their own oil company. He writes about it RIA News" with reference to Reuters.

Last Friday, a rebel group seized the port of Tobruk in the east - the very one through which the National Oil Corporation supplies oil to Europe. A number of other oil ports were also captured.

According to one of the leaders of the rebels, the movement in the seized ports stopped the shipment of "black gold" to state tankers. The rebels said they would set up their own oil company with headquarters in Tobruk.

If the militia continue to block the operation of oil facilities, Libya could face a budget crisis. This was stated by the Prime Minister of the North African state, Ali Zeidan, reports correspondent ITAR-TASS Pervin Mamed-zade.

“The country's budget is based on revenues from oil revenues,” the head of government recalled. “But next month or in a month, there may be problems with the execution of expenditure items.”

Zeidan said that the authorities gave the strikers 7-10 days to stop blocking the fields and seaports.

Paradoxically, the coming to Libya of the so-called democracy, which, as many believe, the NATO states introduced there for the sake of oil, reduced the production of "black gold" in the country by about 90%. Moreover, oil is often controlled by the very rebels, and now the “militiamen” who fought against Gaddafi in 2011. If earlier these people were unhappy with the redistribution of national wealth, then today they are ready to weapons in the hands of these riches "grab". And the fragile state power is hardly able to scare them. Rather, they may scare the government ...

Livia: “... there is no salvation anywhere”


Comments from our readers:

Strashila
The situation in Libya ... no power ??? And what a fright she will be? Those who came to power on the bayonets of mercenaries and a foreign army will not be respected by those living in the country. It is simply a confirmation that the Libyan army under the leadership of Gaddafi reflected external aggression, and did not fight the type with its own people. The same events occur in Syria.


makarov
I can not call the slain Gaddafi the perfect ruler, but with him the SOCIAL SPHERE was at its best. And it is precisely in this industry that the MANY states can and should have equal to it. And the people of LIVIA needed to fight against the foes, not for Gaddafi, but for their social security and stability. And if they did not understand it then, then they reap the fruits of their indifference.


MIKHAN
Gaddafi will remember for a long time, like the Iraqis of Saddam. Deceived the people, bombed looted and forgotten. Throwing on the rebound every gangster and scum ...


The enclosure of the XXI century

In mid-October, the Turkish construction battalion began the construction of a barrier wall on the border with Syria in the Nusaybina region (Mardin province). The stated goal of the construction of a two-meter-high barrier is to stop the movement of Kurdish militants and armed Islamists from Syrian territory to and fro. If we recall that the mentioned province of Mardin is inhabited mainly by Kurds, it becomes clear: first of all, Ankara closes the road to the country for Syrian Kurds, who, under Assad, received a blank check to create their own armed detachments and fight against the Syrian terrorist organization now two and a half years.

Results of the week. "A thief should sit in jail!"


In early November, the media reported on a mass rally in Nusaybin. The protest was attended by several thousand people. The demonstrators compared the wall being erected to the once-existing Berlin Wall. The police dispersed the protesters with water cannons, plastic bullets and tear gas — just as they dispersed demonstrations before. Democracy in action!

The press got information that Turkish Foreign Minister M. Güler denied the very fact of building a barrier wall in the province, but later said that the wall is being built and its purpose is to ensure the security of the border. This is another example of democracy in action: first say no, then yes. Negation is followed by negation of negation. Somewhere here, between “no” and “yes”, the real border between the people and the government passes. That border, which is something worse than barriers and barbed wire.

Syrian Kurds gave a peculiar response to the construction of border barriers. They announced the creation of a transitional government in Syria.

Syrian Kurds living in the northeast, 11 November announced the creation of an independent transitional government. Reports about it "Lenta.ru" with reference to France Press.

The declaration signed by the Kurds following the results of the negotiations in the Syrian city of Kamyshly implies the division of the Kurdish territories into three areas. At the talks, it was decided to begin preparations for local and general elections.

The decision to create a transitional government was made after the successes of the Kurdish militia: over the past few weeks, the Kurds conquered significant territories from the Islamists.

Thus, the construction of the Turkish "Berlin" wall is clearly tied to the growth of the Kurdish movement and the successes that Kurdish militia achieved in the fight against Islamist mercenaries who are fighting either for Sharia in Syria or for ordinary money. For understandable reasons, the Erdogan government fears that the Syrian Kurds may one day unite with the Turkish.

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Comments from our readers:

makarov
It is rather a political t. “Cry out”, since history shows that not a single wall over the centuries has really saved any state.


Alexey M
Here and Turkey under the distribution hit. For a long time they are fighting with the Kurds, but the “fox” has crept up all the same imperceptibly.


Freedom in Lithuanian

The Lithuanian Special Investigation Service interrogated several journalists regarding a leak of information from the State Security Department. Reports about it "Lenta.ru" with reference to "DELFI".



On November 7, the chief editor of the BNS news agency, Jurate Damulite, and her deputy, Jurate Skite, were taken to the main service building in Vilnius. Earlier, the head of BNS, Yurga Eyvaite, was questioned. From the premises occupied by the agency, the investigators carried out several computers.

According to Interfax, during the pre-trial investigation, the judge ordered the editor of BNS to disclose an information source.

In a press release, the agency stresses that such measures impede journalistic work and are “disproportionate and unjustified.” BNS noted that the right of a journalist to keep a source of information secret is one of the guarantees of freedom of the media.

The chairman of the Lithuanian Journalists Union, Dainius Radzevicius, stated that the responsibility for the leakage of information should not be taken by journalists, but by the officers of the security agencies who allowed it: “I hear that they are being withdrawn (for interrogations. - Note. Lenta) negatively. First of all, those people who are responsible for the safety of information should be arrested. ”

As recalled by "Tape", the reason for the proceedings was the material released by "BNS" 31 October. With reference to the state security department of the republic, it was reported that Russia was preparing information provocations against the first persons of Lithuania, in particular, Dali Grybauskaite. It was alleged that the Russian side will soon distribute information discrediting the head of state: it will publish fraudulent documents allegedly found in the State Archives of the Russian Federation regarding the Grybauskaite biography.

Later, Grybauskaite herself stated that she had been informed of the impending attack. And she commented: “One of the main reasons, obviously, is our successful presidency of the Council of the European Union and, perhaps, Lithuania’s striving for energy independence.”

Undoubtedly, add on my own. Soon, the United States will begin to sell shale gas and shale oil to Vilnius at bargain prices, and an independent Lithuania will show Moscow a fig. However, do not say "gop" until you jump.

As for the documents, let us ask ourselves the question: why are the first person of the state so worried about some fakes? And not even the fake itself, but only hints at them?

Geopolitical mosaic: Syrian opposition decided to participate in the “Geneva-2”, and John Kerry explained to the world community that Americans are not blind and not stupid


Comments from our readers:

Karlsonn
... the Europeans have destroyed the industry, there is no work for the youth (as for the young), respectively, the Balts go to work in large quantities at the fish factories in England, well, or wash the toilets in Portugal and try to cling to the demographic crisis there.


smile
... And my parents live in Klaipeda. :))) ... Lithuanian population decline by one third ... from less than three million people over 600 thousands of guest workers ... And they work with various nannies and vegetable gatherers ... a plumber and a builder are the ultimate dream.
Total corruption. The authorities do not recognize this, but the newspapers are just furious, and the people see it. Without a bribe you will not do anything, at all levels. Judges take bribes directly at the reception - we have not had this since the mid-nineties.
Medicine has sunk to the level of the Stone Age, bribes such that our doctors never dreamed of. Repair teeth go to Belarus: there is not enough money to treat them ... Lyapota, in general ...


Deputy fashion designer

Deputy of the Lithuanian Seimas Petras Gražulis, known for his negative attitude towards homosexuals, made a gift to the local gay league, reports "Lenta.ru" with reference to Delfi.lt. In the league, the gift was not happy.



The fact is that the parliamentarian presented jeans to gays ... with a zipper in the back. He said: “These are advanced jeans - zipper in front and behind. I just improved their clothes. ” And he added: “It's a shame how a man makes love to a man. They disgrace, but the EU somehow believes that they are heroes, the most modern layer of society. ”

It is noted that comrade Grazulis personally brought improved jeans to the office of the Lithuanian Gay League.

In the league the deputy’s gift was called disgusting. Homosexuals called on the authorities to condemn the act of the parliamentarian.

Well, let us add from myself, neither can it be denied to Comrade Grazhulis in courage or originality. As for the disgusting, the members (and asses) of the league would be better off keeping silent. You understand, they brought free designer pants to the Europe-2013 autumn collection, and they rushed to the government offices to whimper ...

Geopolitical mosaic: Putin talked on the phone with Assad, and the plantations of opium poppy in Afghanistan increased over the year by 36%


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Stiletto
The deputy of the Lithuanian Seimas Petras Grazhulis - a normal man, did not know that in Lithuania there are still such.


Not a black square, but a red line

The vocabulary of current politicians is firmly rooted in the expression "red line". Experts warn: if such expressions are not supported by actions, it hurts reputation. The reportage of the correspondent is devoted to the linguistic topic. "RT" Floors Slier.



US President Barack Obama claims that he did not establish the notorious “red line” for Syria. He declares: "It made the world community."

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke of the “red line” of Iran.

Now there are fears that if the American president can be forced to abandon plans for Syria, then he will do the same with Iran.

Dr. Boaz Ganor, Director General of the Institute for International Counterterrorism Policy, says:

“When the head of the world's largest power establishes a“ red line ”and then publicly rejects his words or is forced to discard them by the will of his people or the senate, this is a very disturbing sign. And this is a serious blow to the reputation of the United States, which play a deterrent role both in the Middle East and around the world. ”


Ex-Ambassador of Israel to Egypt Yitzhak Lebanon shared his opinion with “RT”: “From the outside, Obama may seem to doubt or change his position depending on the development of the situation in the world.”

A representative of the Institute of Communications Tal Samuel Azran said:

“We have seen some politicians use the term“ red line ”. It's dangerous to do that. You drive yourself into frames. As soon as the politician uses it, he immediately undertakes to hold this “red line”. It is clear that various kinds of manipulations are applied in politics. ”


Politicians who operate with aggressive expressions in the international arena, we add from ourselves, we must remember the saying: "The word is not a sparrow, it will fly out - you will not catch it." Let us remind them of another useful proverb: “Measure seven times, cut once”. Before you say anything, gentlemen politicians would think about it well. Otherwise, they may cross their political career with red lines. Mr. Obama, for example, with his record-low rating risks going down in history as the worst president of the United States.

Geopolitical mosaic: Syrian opposition decided to participate in the “Geneva-2”, and John Kerry explained to the world community that Americans are not blind and not stupid


Comments from our readers:

Max otto
The man said the word, the man took the word, what are you after this man? Therefore, Obama and do not respect, is not responsible for his words.


HollyGremlin
“The United States, which plays a deterrent role,” quite right. They restrain economic growth, conflict resolution, and arms reduction. And they still have a lot of red ribbons, if anything, you can break the flag.


Last cartridge

In the US Secret Service inflames a new scandal caused by inappropriate staff behavior, reports Newsru.com with reference to The Washington Post.



As a result of an internal investigation into the dubious behavior of two high-ranking Secret Service officers, disciplinary measures were taken against both of them.

These two worked in senior positions in the department, providing security for the President of the United States. Ignacio Zamora and Timothy Barraklow were dismissed from their posts following the results of a service check, and Barraklow was also transferred to work in another department, ITAR-TASS reported.

In May of this year, Zamora, in the White House Hotel “Hay-Adams”, met a lady in a bar, and then spent time with her in her room. There he defused the service pistol, afterwards forgetting one cartridge. For patron Zamora tried to return to the familiar, but for some reason she did not let him.

Zamora went the other way: presented a certificate of service hotel management and demanded to provide him access to the room. The hotel staff took action: reported on the behavior of Zamora White House.

In the course of the proceedings in the official mobile phone Zamora revealed messages of a sexual nature of one of the subordinates. The author of similar messages addressed to the same woman was Barraklou.

And all the fuss - because of one cartridge, add on my own. Although, of course, the Secret Service may hide the truth. Mr. Zamora could have forgotten in the room of the girlfriend “Javelin”.

Geopolitical mosaic: Putin talked on the phone with Assad, and the plantations of opium poppy in Afghanistan increased over the year by 36%


Comments from our readers:

Vadivak
“... met a lady in a bar, and then spent time with her in her room. There he discharged the service gun ... "
Well, that is not the lady.


Stiletto
Poor discharged, that's not let.


Beautiful far to America cruelly

A notable article by John Feffer entitled “A World Without the USA” recently appeared on the Inter Press Service news agency website. Among other things, the material speaks of the inevitable, albeit slow, decline of that world gendarme and world financier who is trying to “steer” the whole planet. There is also a duality of attitude towards the United States, for example, China and some Latin American countries: at the same time they do not want American hegemony, but at the same time they are heavily dependent on Washington for trade. The author has paid attention to such an important aspect as the US presence in the regions: where it is shrinking, the era of prosperity begins.



John Feffer is co-director of Foreign Policy in Focus at the Institute for Political Studies in Washington. The Narrative of a World Without America Scientist precedes a brief retelling of the content of 2007's best-selling book “A World Without Us”, written by journalist Alan Vaisman.

The book describes the planet, recovering from the disappearance of people. Skyscrapers fall apart, bridges fall into rivers, but dense forests rise and buffaloes roam everywhere. Ironically, Feffer calls this process an optimistic vision of the future. But optimists are buffalo or dolphin. No more ranchers or fishermen with their nets. The author also refers cockroaches to optimists: after all, dichlorvos is also no more.

Man, this future does not apply. In fact, Weisman warns people who naively assume that they will always exist - regardless of the threats. And there are enough threats: nuclear weapons, climate change, pandemics ...

From the fantastic bestseller Weisman, the author of the article turns to the reality of the 21st century. It comes to geopolitics. What would a world be like without the United States?

Americans profit from economic and military hegemony. This profit is expressed in the form of GDP per capita, a strong dollar, and even dependence on English as the main means of communication in the world. Americans take it all for granted. But here non-Americans feel differently. Non-Americans, the author ironically puts in place those buffaloes, dolphins and cockroaches in a world free of people. Anyone who lives outside the United States could well applaud the end of the American superpower.

The analyst notes that in the midst of the recent political crisis in Washington, the Chinese news agency Xinhua issued an article in which the "perplexed world" proposed to start considering the possibility of building a "de-Americanized world." However, as some American commentators pointed out, this provocative article does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the Chinese government: after all, Beijing depends on the US economy, whether it is American consumers or Wall Street liquidity. Beijing depends on the fact that Washington is more or less holding back the ambitions of its key allies in the Asia-Pacific region.

The same can be said about the countries of Latin America, which have long condemned American imperialism. Like China, the author notes, Latin America is largely dependent on trade with the United States.

Most analysts who speak of the decline of the hegemon (from Paul Kennedy to Farid Zakaria), agree on this duality of attitude toward the United States. However, the United States will gradually come into relative decline, for which there is no viable alternative.

The analyst recalls: The United States supports many dictators in the interests of stability. So what? The United States produced significant instability in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Here are other examples. The United States reduced its military involvement in Latin America - and the region began to flourish. The United States reduced its military presence in South Korea — and there was no “anarchy” on the peninsula. Finally, the US has closed down many Cold War bases in Europe, but Europe remains calm.

The author's conclusion: just as people need to change their relationship with nature, the United States must reconfigure its relationship with the world. In both cases, the worst scenarios will lead to the victory of the cockroaches.

Wonderful words, add on my own. True, the White House is clearly not ready to give up the role of a hegemon in the world, despite the past and the imminent government shutdown that may occur in January or February of 2014, when Republicans in Congress will again deal with President Obama.

If, however, we introduce into geopolitics the so-called moral component, then here Washington does not intend to abandon the declared “exclusivity” that the highest officials of the state have been promoting in recent weeks, from Barack Obama to John Kerry.

As a result, the United States is likely to try with all its might to preserve the old world order that they liked so much since the collapse of the USSR. As for the financial crisis, the petrodollar superpower has one proven method: raising the national debt ceiling.

The victory of the cockroaches, or the decline of the United States as an alternative to the new world


Comments from our readers:

Polovec
America is a self-sufficient country (like Russia). Even if the dollar crashes, it must be understood that no one will die of hunger. It is just that speculative financiers will cause chaos around the world, which will be localized for a short time, and the construction of new financial and economic relations will begin, based not on speculation and air trade, but on production. Products first. And the world from the fact that the States get into a hole and take care of their affairs inside the country, will only win and breathe easy. What the US is afraid of - more than hunger!


Stiletto
"The petrodollar superpower has one proven method: raising the national debt ceiling."
However, one day this ... magic wand will fail, and then ...


avant-garde
... for sure suddenly the clouds will dance, and Obama will play the violin ...


* "A thief should be in prison!" - the phrase from the movie "The meeting place can not be changed"
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  1. +33
    17 November 2013 08: 34
    Thanks to the authors for the review! As always, everything is accurate and on the topic! Waiting for an article from 7-00 Moscow time.
    1. +11
      17 November 2013 08: 42
      Quote: major071
      Waiting for an article from 7-00 Moscow time

      ours to you hi I waited with seven local (5-00 Moscow) request
      1. +38
        17 November 2013 09: 02
        If Dimona the iPhone is chased, I will agree that Putin "did not know" about Taburetkin and I will forgive a lot. But no.
        1. +30
          17 November 2013 09: 07
          Dimon works as a lightning rod while coping. Salt when it gets really bad
          1. Captain Vrungel
            +26
            17 November 2013 09: 32
            Dimon is a member of the "family". Who from the family takes out garbage to the masses? They will cheat, punish in a close family circle. According to Zhiglov, "A thief should be in prison." But who will put him in prison if the "family" is in the Kremlin.
            1. +38
              17 November 2013 10: 17
              It was only in Soviet films that the thief was in prison, now the time is different and the films are different ... What a pity! what
              1. +19
                17 November 2013 12: 44
                Quote from Uncle Lee
                it was only in Soviet films that the thief was in prison, now the time is different and the films are different ...

                The problem is not in movies and time, but in people and their conscience, or rather its absence hi !
                1. Evgeniy.
                  0
                  24 November 2013 17: 00
                  In fairness, the investigation is not yet completed
              2. Serdyukov
                -10
                17 November 2013 17: 44
                Quote: Uncle Lee
                It was only in Soviet films that the thief was in prison, now the time is different and the films are different ... What a pity! what

                Who do you mean when you say thief?
                1. +7
                  17 November 2013 20: 48
                  Quote: Serdyukov
                  Who do you mean when you say thief?

                  Generally --- you.
                  Though here you can be planted in skulls and in a ban for life wassat
                  \ In general (+) for a sense of humor laughing
                  1. 0
                    17 November 2013 21: 23
                    Quote: atalef
                    Generally --- you.
                    Though here you can be planted in skulls and in a ban for life
                    \ In general (+) for a sense of humor

                    And where is the confidence that this is the real Anatoly Eduardovich?
                    1. +1
                      18 November 2013 04: 41
                      well you give a guy without a sense of humor!
                2. +5
                  17 November 2013 21: 14
                  A spokesman for Russian President Dmitry Peskov said that Vladimir Putin has nothing to do with the appointment of the hero of the embezzlement case in the Ministry of Defense - the former head of this department, Anatoly Serdyukov - as the general director of the Federal Research and Testing Center for Engineering. According to Peskov, this decision is exclusively the head of government. Putin and Peskov once again hold dear Russians for idiots. They should forget that it was Putin who made Dmitry Medvedev who appointed Serdyukov as prime minister, before he appointed Serdyukov as defense minister, well aware of his dark past and forced law enforcement agencies to withdraw Anatoly Eduardovich from among the suspects.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    +5
                    17 November 2013 21: 26
                    Quote: yury-1972
                    Spokesman for the Russian President Dmitry Peskov said
                    1. +1
                      17 November 2013 22: 22
                      About this, at the time, said A. Koch, and someone else from this company.
                3. 0
                  17 November 2013 21: 41
                  Quote: Serdyukov
                  Serdyukov

                  Prime Anatoly! Welcome back! Six months not a word to the spirit ... I thought the nickname and changed the photo. And you provoke the call sign and photo ... good
                  Do you like the image of an antihero?
                4. +6
                  18 November 2013 05: 33
                  A thief, of course ... Or you have, according to the proverb, "Not caught - not a thief?"
                5. 0
                  18 November 2013 06: 51
                  Quote: Serdyukov
                  Who do you mean when you say thief?

                  Quote: Serdyukov
                  Who do you mean when you say thief?

                  Yes, not a thief, an agent of influence ..... a little man who was dragged by the ears to destroy the armies. and the fleet is the last support of Russia
                6. badger1974
                  +1
                  18 November 2013 22: 57
                  along the way and your aunt motya tighten? there and the dacha seems to be relied upon, as our thief timokha
                7. 0
                  18 November 2013 23: 16
                  And who does not understand who we are talking about? People, this "people's" party has long been for and does not take into account the opinion and will of the latter! Who should go to prison? Yes, the one whom "grandfather Stalin" called the enemies of the people! Those whose wallets are full of stolen millions! Those whose mistresses take away museum paintings! Maybe it's time to think and vote for the Communist Party !!! I'm not for Zyuganov, but there is no one else to choose from! I am for order! For a strong and mighty Russia! For our property not to pass into the hands of a handful of presumptuous Aligarhs! People, good sleep! Wake up !!!
              3. +3
                18 November 2013 13: 40
                Evgeny Vasiliev, the main person involved in the so-called Oboronservis case, got a job at the law office.

                According to a BFM.ru correspondent, the former head of the Department of Property Relations of the Ministry of Defense announced this at a meeting of the Moscow City Court, which is considering the petition of the investigation to extend Vasilyeva’s house arrest for a term exceeding one year.

                “I am a lawyer in the law firm“ Gridnev, Kharitonov & Partners, ”said Vasilyeva, answering a question from Judge Lyudmila Smolkina about whether she works.

                Prior to this, Vasilyeva was listed as deputy chairman of the board of directors of one of the construction companies.

                Vasilyeva is charged with 12 episodes of theft of military property worth more than 3 billion rubles.

                69717
                Read on the website BFM.RU am here is another spit in the face of the people ... tolerate further ???
                1. ded10041948
                  +1
                  18 November 2013 16: 20
                  Is it possible to get a job under house arrest? Especially in the status of the accused?
                  Apparently, the sweet couple realized that nothing will happen to them and is preparing the ground for another savory "grub" in all of us.
                  In fact, the almost simultaneous employment of the two defendants evokes sad thoughts.
            2. +4
              17 November 2013 15: 46
              How not to remember Pugachev: "It will still be ..."
              1. Current 72
                +4
                17 November 2013 17: 39
                And remember our Pesnyarov: "Nyama tago, it used to be ..." And Pugachev echoes them "Tolya will still be ..."
          2. +58
            17 November 2013 09: 49
            Guys, thank you for the interesting review! You have it as always on top. Thank you very much for your sense of humor! You have it inexhaustible, like the sea! Let me throw my five cents in this piggy bank of humor?
            Oh, I promised not to write more about him, but in light of recent events ...

            Putriots note or silence is gold!

            I watched TV in the kitchen yesterday
            I drank coffee, ate a bun with butter
            The news told me from the screen announcer
            And I admit honestly fucked up!

            He smiled at me like a friend
            He looked in the eyes and spoke clearly
            That Serdyukov is now beyond suspicion
            He received a position in the federal center ???

            Scald thighs with unfinished coffee
            And dropping your sandwich under the table
            I felt like a sucker inferior
            Fallen into the Jesuit binding!

            Yesterday, he was an outcast of the nation.
            Did you go under witness status?
            And lo and behold! CEO of a corporation?
            I even used alcohol with grief!

            Referring to the amendment of the constitution
            He is silent during interrogations, like a spy
            The mighty Putin took him under the roof
            The women's battalion will answer for everything ???

            I'm sitting in a bukh, but I think very soberly!
            Everything fell clearly into place!
            The zoo came to the machine building
            But for RUSSIA it does not matter ????????????

            In my opinion, his mug became even thicker?
            1. +40
              17 November 2013 10: 38
              Not very well written, but a good idea.
            2. rrrd
              +10
              17 November 2013 11: 58
              well done!) +
            3. +3
              17 November 2013 17: 57
              Thank you, I laughed heartily. And as you think about Russia, at least cry.
              1. +1
                18 November 2013 04: 48
                Russia has nothing to do with it and there is no need to cry about it. The investigation has been promoted, and the mind was not enough to prove the guilt.
            4. +4
              17 November 2013 21: 07
              Quote: Arberes
              The mighty Putin took him under the roof
              The women's battalion will answer for everything ???
            5. +2
              18 November 2013 04: 44
              you must choose a good father-in-law from a young age!
          3. Shur
            +3
            17 November 2013 17: 58
            Most likely not loud .. homo ..
          4. Serdyukov
            -5
            17 November 2013 18: 00
            Quote: ivshubarin
            it will become very bad
            Reply Quote Report Abuse

            All you know is who works with whom. Would be silent with such loud statements
            1. 0
              18 November 2013 05: 56
              Familiar Edros immediately said who will work DAM. Whipping boy
          5. +2
            17 November 2013 19: 25
            Quote: ivshubarin
            Salt when it gets really bad

            A month after the end of the Sochi Olympiad ... "" Moor "did his job ..."
            1. bask
              +5
              17 November 2013 21: 31
              I love my country, Russia.
              But I less and less like the state in which it is located.
              1. Field
                +2
                17 November 2013 21: 42
                My minus. Without a state there will be no country, there will be chaos - little-governed principalities, as once in history
                Here is power or polit. and economic elites - officials and businessmen who represent power at all levels clearly deserve a negative attitude, and most of the rope and "work in the fresh air"
              2. Horde
                +4
                17 November 2013 21: 56
                Quote: bask
                I love my country, Russia.
                But I less and less like the state in which it is located.


                Andrew friend greet you! long time no intersect.
                damned taburetkin how much you have to talk about him on a military review, but you really wanted to talk about new planes, tanks, weapons, and you have to spit on this rogue. The country is ready to create and create, and we are forced to consume someone else's and wash bones with all sorts of vile personalities from stools , to Popovkin, but Fursenko and other pido_ras whom divorced ...
        2. +10
          17 November 2013 09: 18
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          If Dimona the iPhone is chased, I will agree that Putin "did not know" about Taburetkin and I will forgive a lot. But no.

          Where will they drive?
          You look at his speeches, soon his speeches will be available for quotes like Chernomyrdin’s! They can see it all, but he’s a member of the team. Here’s another director who was added, despite the plume of criminal cases and unsuitability !!
          1. +11
            17 November 2013 09: 57
            Quote: APASUS
            You look at his speeches, soon his speeches will be available for quotes like Chernomyrdin!

            Dumont to Chernomyrdin - like walking to Berlin.
            All your thoughts fit into the line "You have to work well .... You have to work well!"
            This "nimble little boy" was "found" by nice guys from a country of equal liberal opportunities, and "have been leading" him since the late 90s - there are living witnesses to how the words "You will still hear the name Medvedev ..."
          2. +27
            17 November 2013 11: 13
            Quote: APASUS
            You look at his speeches, soon his speeches will be available for quotes as Chernomyrdin

          3. Serdyukov
            -1
            17 November 2013 17: 45
            Quote: APASUS
            but he is a member of the team

            At 37, there were also many former team members.
            1. 0
              17 November 2013 19: 09
              Quote: Serdyukov
              At 37, there were also many former team members.

              Now it’s not 37 - where they hung up on the denunciation and not even 87 - where justice worked at least a little and the authorities did not pursue the money.
              Now 7-10 years will pass and he will be erected as a monument to Pavel Grachev "For services to the Fatherland!" While for our money.
          4. +5
            17 November 2013 19: 17
            1. "On February 15, 2007, Russian President Vladimir Putin carried out important personnel changes in the highest echelons of power. Sergei Ivanov was appointed First Deputy Prime Minister. Sergei Naryshkin, while retaining the post of Chief of Staff of the Government, was appointed Deputy Prime Minister. Anatoly Serdyukov became the new Russian Defense Minister." .... On the same day, Vladimir Putin personally introduced the new head of the military department to the members of the board and the leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. The President described Anatoly Serdyukov as "a civilian man, but nevertheless able to solve these problems due to his knowledge in the field of economics, Financing. ”Concluding his speech to the military leaders, Putin said:“ I ask you very much that these decisions not only be supported formally, but that, as they say, help the new defense minister with all his heart to carry out the tasks assigned to him ”... The appointment of Serdyukov to the post of head of the RF Ministry of Defense means that he is becoming one of the key political figures. r in the team of Vladimir Putin .. Let's note one more circumstance. The appointment to the post of defense minister in the period immediately preceding the parliamentary and presidential elections means that Anatoly Serdyukov has received the highest credit of trust from the first person of the state.

            After all, it is the Armed Forces, in the event of any collisions, will be able to ensure political stability in the country and guarantee the procedure established by the Constitution for the transfer of powers to the new president after the citizens of the Russian Federation make their choice in March 2008 ... "

            Read more: http://vpk-news.ru/articles/2607

            2. "In modern conditions, in order to solve this problem, organize effective work, rationally spend huge, at least for our country, budget money, here, in this area, we need a person with experience in the field of economics and finance", - said Putin.

            Of all the potential candidates, the head of the Federal Tax Service Anatoly Serdyukov was recognized as the best specialist in efficient spending in the context of modernizing the army. The new minister of defense, hearing his name, immediately stood up as if on command "Attention!"

            http://www.rg.ru/2007/02/16/monoboroni.html
        3. +17
          17 November 2013 10: 04
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          If the Dimon iPhone is chased,

          Who will drive the teddy bear? on whose background will the president look more comme il faut?
          1. +4
            17 November 2013 23: 46
            And that's not all ...
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          1. Shur
            +1
            17 November 2013 18: 04
            Putin is not Stalin. He is just the president .. There are so many under the carpet of interests. Putin is such a KGB variator. I wish him one thing — not to play too long and not to linger, it’s time to understand — time (his friends) is running out. And who after? I hope we don’t know him.
        5. AVV
          +10
          17 November 2013 13: 45
          Yes Serdyukov, this is the DAM project !!! But if this werewolf now heads the state institution, although according to normal law, those who put their hands in the state pocket should lose their right to head state institutions and state structures for life !!! Therefore, people's discontent is growing, and what do you want, if it turns out that who steals the most, he eats, and even for two !!! Yes, he has stolen money above the roof, and he is also employed and taken care of from above !!! Deputies do not understand, people do not understand this train of thought of our government !!!
          1. +33
            17 November 2013 14: 28
            Greetings to all and my congratulations on the appointment of the thief Serdyukov to the next public position.
            Although why be surprised. Who can tell where he served for 1.5 years? And why so much? Indeed, according to the law, he was supposed to serve 2 years. Did they know about GDP before? He then began to import furniture to trade. And who contributed? But in general they are ONE FAMILY! But in the family everyone thinks the same. Everything in the family ...
            1. +14
              17 November 2013 14: 36
              Quote: AleksUkr
              In general, they are ONE FAMILY!

              usually they say, in a family it’s not without yodas, but it turns out that the whole family consists entirely of yodas belay
            2. 0
              18 November 2013 07: 40
              He then began to import furniture to trade. And who contributed? Father-in-law Zubkov V.A., the former Prime Minister, contributed and has helped to see now.
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        8. +10
          17 November 2013 15: 28
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          Putin "knew" about Taburetkin


          And not only about him,

          about

          Quote: Nikolai S.
          Dimon iPhone


          he knows everything too

          PS as well as they - they know a lot about him
        9. +15
          17 November 2013 15: 55
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          Putin "did not know" about Taburetkin
        10. +10
          17 November 2013 17: 05
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          ... I agree that Putin "did not know" about Taburetkin


          As president and KGB operative, GDP cannot know about such a massive undermining of the country's defense.
          1. Serdyukov
            -11
            17 November 2013 18: 03
            Quote: yur2079
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            ... I agree that Putin "did not know" about Taburetkin

            As president and KGB operative, GDP cannot know about such a massive undermining of the country's defense.

            What a blast? belay Get involved. Defense was not undermined
        11. Shur
          +2
          17 November 2013 17: 57
          GDP does not give up ...
        12. 0
          18 November 2013 06: 47
          Quote: Nikolay S.
          If Dimona the iPhone is chased, I will agree that Putin "did not know" about Taburetkin and I will forgive a lot. But no.

          everything is elementary, the Jewish guys insistently asked him a reward for the collapse of the army, just as Medvedev's order of Andrei the First-Called was handed out to the hunchback for the collapse of the USSR, it was impossible to refuse, which means that our leadership is still creeping in front of the Zionist League
      2. Rusich51
        +18
        17 November 2013 09: 38
        Per review +++ I read and concluded without amers life will become better definitely.
        Taburetkin count, there should be no other prospects for him.
        1. +5
          17 November 2013 17: 08
          Taburetkin count, there should be no other prospects for him.
          no why on a stake we have in Russia a lot of wood and coal let it develop subsoil
      3. Serdyukov
        +2
        17 November 2013 17: 59
        Quote: andrei332809
        I was waiting for you from seven local time (5-00 Moscow)

        I was also waiting for the article from 7:00
      4. 0
        17 November 2013 18: 38
        Finally, the site became anti-Putin ...
        1. +12
          17 November 2013 20: 13
          Not quite so, this power is finally becoming anti-people!
        2. Horde
          +1
          17 November 2013 20: 15
          Quote: Civil
          Finally, the site became anti-Putin.


          is it good or bad?
        3. +8
          17 November 2013 23: 39
          Quote: Civil
          Finally the site became anti-Putin



          No, not anti-Putin ... just the GDP team, as it were, to put it mildly, is crazy. One Dimon is worth it. Still trying to play the boss. A sort of Cucumbers with Pribabah. There really business can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
          1. Horde
            +2
            17 November 2013 23: 46
            Quote: Cherdak
            No, not anti-Putin ...


            Well, of course he is still a ray of light, and the people are a crowd of rams led by a wise goat, the site is certainly not anti-Putin, continue to reassure yourself, you really need it because nothing happened, it is anti-Putin so more precisely ...
        4. +3
          17 November 2013 23: 56
          Quote: Civil
          Finally, the site became anti-Putin ...


          it’s neither good nor bad -
          - This is an adequate reaction to the inaction of the president.
    2. +22
      17 November 2013 09: 19
      Thanks for the review. The week was interesting. Of course, the most shocking news was the appointment of the thief Serdyukov to lead the state company. Well, it’s not accepted in our country that the government cares about its reputation. Or maybe this cattle point to a place? After such a scandal, Serdyukov was shot dead at the time. They simply demonstrate to us that the teacher who is accused of taking a bribe of 1000 rubles will be removed and will sit, and the stealing minister after a spa treatment receives a new post for looting. Well, how should we respond? In life, you can get used to a lot, but how to get used to humiliation? Is Putin really so bad with the staff?
      PS As I understand it, Vasiliev will also require compensation for moral damage in the future. A workplace is already waiting for her ...
      1. +12
        17 November 2013 09: 49
        Do you have any doubts about the personnel? Look how over the course of a number of years they have been shuffling the same messy deck and transferring especially valuable shots from chair to chair ... Result: "No matter how you sit down, everyone is no good for musicians."
        And Vasilyev must first go through the impending economic amnesty, and then he can think about compensation and employment. I think that this will not be the case - as Admiral Canaris once said: "There are no waste, there are personnel."
      2. +2
        17 November 2013 09: 53
        No, he has a bad brain
        1. +6
          17 November 2013 13: 07
          A thief should sit in jail
          another thing is that there are such thieves
          what is easier around such a thief to build a new prison
      3. Yarosvet
        +9
        17 November 2013 16: 25
        Quote: Polovec
        Of course, the most shocking news was the appointment of the thief Serdyukov to lead the state-owned company.
      4. avg
        +4
        17 November 2013 21: 36
        Is Putin really so bad with the staff?

        Bad, as it turns out, he has honor and conscience.
        He himself, from which frames, remember. negative
      5. acute
        0
        18 November 2013 14: 28
        She is already employed
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    4. +4
      17 November 2013 16: 17
      GOOD MY major 071-Vladimir!
      I’ve been waiting since last night - maybe there’s a mistake?
      Or didn’t (the old) understand?
      I ran through the entire space of virtual reality (real virtuality -?)
      FIG to you - that's right, APPOINTED! Other results seem such a trifle ...
      "Or maybe this is the homespun TRUTH?"
    5. Walker1975
      +5
      17 November 2013 22: 53
      Thanks to the authors ... But what will happen to Rosstech now? Serdyukov is more dangerous than American AUG.
  2. +6
    17 November 2013 08: 39
    "Moreover, the range of dishes will be increased: catering provides for the preparation of two first courses, three cold appetizers and ingredients of a salad bar, as well as meat (fish) dishes and side dishes, five types of juices or drinks (fruit drinks)."
    from what is the soldier smooth? ate, and on his side. laughing
    "And she made a comment:" One of the main reasons, obviously, is our successful chairmanship of the Council of the European Union and, perhaps, Lithuania's striving for energy independence. "
    hahaha
    thanks for the review hi otherwise the mnu week turned out to be some kind of twitching, torn. I got acquainted with the news in fits and starts,
  3. +3
    17 November 2013 08: 43
    Also always waiting for the results! Well done guys!
    1. +2
      17 November 2013 18: 27
      Vital, when they plant
      Tagdy rejoice! ! !
  4. +8
    17 November 2013 08: 46
    On November 16, the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier was handed over to the Indian side. Vikramaditya immediately becomes the flagship of the Indian Navy.

    I watched the news on this topic on the news. The Indian crew was waiting for the authorities a couple of hours in the ranks in the cold wind, from dark-skinned it turned blue in its winter uniform, reminiscent of our demi-season. As always, Rogozin spoke with the words that now Russia will begin to build aircraft carriers for itself.
    1. +7
      17 November 2013 09: 33
      Quote: major071
      On November 16, the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier was handed over to the Indian side. Vikramaditya immediately becomes the flagship of the Indian Navy.

      I watched the news on this topic on the news. The Indian crew was waiting for the authorities a couple of hours in the ranks in the cold wind, from dark-skinned it turned blue in its winter uniform, reminiscent of our demi-season. As always, Rogozin spoke with the words that now Russia will begin to build aircraft carriers for itself.

      For then they came off, just showed how they danced, for joy
      1. +8
        17 November 2013 09: 58
        Quote: igor67
        For then they came off, just showed how they danced, for joy

        Yeah .. It shocked them so much from the cold .. laughing
        1. 10kAzAk01
          +7
          17 November 2013 12: 46
          For then they came off, just showed how they danced, for joy

          And Indian songs like in the movies were ???
          1. +4
            17 November 2013 15: 42
            Quote: 10kAzAk01
            And Indian songs like in the movies were ???


            Apparently enjoying Indian music, Rogozin spoke out about aircraft carriers. what
            1. Shur
              +3
              17 November 2013 18: 31
              His task is such - "Wishful thinking"
        2. DPN
          +2
          17 November 2013 19: 36
          -- am do not hell with the sailors laugh, the benefit of the ides of nothing bad Russia did not.
  5. qwert1707
    +11
    17 November 2013 08: 51
    angry Daaaaaaa ..... Mr. Taburetkin should be given an honorary position as a tester of gallows ..... for all his services to the fatherland ...
    And the mare’s battalion to helpers determine ....
    One mate in my head ... about this "news"
    1. +25
      17 November 2013 08: 57
      Serdyuk should give jeans with a fly in the back
      1. +24
        17 November 2013 11: 29
        since Serdyukov is a furniture maker, you need to dress him in a wooden suit! am
        1. Hudo
          +6
          17 November 2013 11: 44
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          since Serdyukov is a furniture maker, you need to dress him in a wooden suit! am


          ... and so that I couldn’t change my clothes, attach it to the body with 150mm nails, or better with screws. am
      2. 0
        18 November 2013 19: 37
        The Scottish skirt is much more comfortable. There is no castle.
    2. +15
      17 November 2013 09: 26
      and smear forehead with green stuff! good
  6. +41
    17 November 2013 08: 54
    Serdyukov is a station wagon. A furniture maker, a tax specialist, a military strategist, and also a machine builder. But in the main specialty - just a thief
    1. +10
      17 November 2013 12: 21
      Quote: ivshubarin
      A furniture maker, a tax specialist, a military strategist, and also a machine builder.

      "Sportswoman, Komsomol member, and just a beauty" laughing
      1. +5
        17 November 2013 13: 11
        Considering his popularity in the "women's battalion" he is really handsome
    2. +9
      17 November 2013 12: 43
      Quote: ivshubarin
      But in the main specialty - just a thief

      It's just that thieves are sitting on kitsch. The stool is not just a thief, judging by the fact that the main "witness" was first made of it, and then the chair of the general director of the Federal Research Testing Center for Mechanical Engineering was moved to his ass, is it a thief of state importance or is it of the Kremlin? wink .
      1. +1
        17 November 2013 20: 33
        Quote: Tersky
        ... is it a thief of national importance or is it still a Kremlin one?
        And what is the fundamental difference here, if one decides what a "state" is? Since theft is the whole meaning of the bureaucratic existence of modern Russia, the stool can be qualified as the main state resource - the main striking force "in the development of the wealth of our Motherland."
    3. +1
      17 November 2013 18: 28
      A thief has freaked out! After all, how professionally he holds them by the throat, they cannot even plant them. I can imagine how they applaud him in. USA.
    4. Shur
      +2
      17 November 2013 18: 33
      He prefers not to wear a hat.
      1. +2
        17 November 2013 19: 24
        Quote: Shur
        He prefers not to wear a hat.

        Useless. It burns with a blue flame ...
  7. +11
    17 November 2013 08: 54
    I want to add one more news
    Deputy Prime Minister of Russia proposes to rename the Far East to the Pacific region. Dmitry Rogozin noted that Siberia and the Far East in the 21st century are becoming for Russia the key to "its place as a superpower."
    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/politics/20131115/977046916.html#ixzz2ksJxZpR9
    Why trifle. Rename Russia to the Region and divide it into Region No. 1, 2 ... etc. Dmitry Rogozin in the nearby Rogozin. The military-industrial complex will help Mace in Crane to patch up and better in Orel or, well, I think he’ll come up with a little one.
    1. +27
      17 November 2013 10: 01
      Moreover. The Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation has no more claims against the Skolkovo Foundation management. Violations worth 125 billion rubles no longer bother the auditors, because the shortcomings have been eliminated. And the fund's management announced that thanks to the Prosecutor General's Office "it was possible to improve internal control mechanisms."
      Serdyuk was thrown into mechanical engineering. I have no questions, except for one small, not modest question for the tsar: what will Vasiliev lead ????
      The current rulers living in their fairy-tale looking glass, according to their own laws, invented by themselves, or rather, outside the law. Their logic is not clear to an ordinary, normal person.
      But we are no longer children.
  8. +5
    17 November 2013 08: 55
    "A thief should go to jail" - if he stole less than a billion.
    1. +2
      17 November 2013 10: 33
      Do not just sit, but cut down the forest and sew mittens. Damage must be compensated
  9. +20
    17 November 2013 08: 56
    About Serdyukov, still boiling inside. I can’t calm down. Yes, and look at the number of reviews in articles this week about his appointment. Everyone boils apparently.
    1. +24
      17 November 2013 09: 24
      Quote: stayer
      About Serdyukov, still boiling inside. I can’t calm down. Yes, and look at the number of reviews in articles this week about his appointment. Everyone boils apparently.

      And the zombie man on this occasion, as he typed water in his mouth, is silent bastard ... like there was nothing!
      For me, so if Vova was not in the subject, then he was rigidly framed, and there are no such accidents! If you do not put this gang and another 2-3 governors with a trailer, etc. exponentially, he can’t wash off! hi
      1. +5
        17 November 2013 18: 40
        Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
        For me, if Vova was not in the subject,


        What would Vova was not in the subject, something that is not believed.
      2. +3
        17 November 2013 20: 25
        You are right + 100, there are no accidents!
      3. +2
        17 November 2013 20: 53
        You are 100% right about the box. Silence ... Everything is boiling inside, I do not believe that the appointment for the VVP has passed into the dark. Voted for him all the time, but now everything, there is no more faith. Words about the fight against corruption are farce, thieves move from one place to another. In addition to Serdyukov, our former Arkhangelsk governor-mikhalchuk, who was filmed not so long ago, now has a good job. director of "su-155". Some kind of circulation of thieves in Russia ...
    2. Yarosvet
      +11
      17 November 2013 16: 39
      Quote: stayer
      About Serdyukov, still boiling inside

      And the "case of tomographs", "the Daimler case", "the prosecutors case", "the Rosenergoatom case", "the APEC summit case", "the lympiyada case", "the Rosagroleasing case", "the Skolkovo case" - is this not boiling?
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        1. +1
          17 November 2013 20: 47
          Good day, Alexander, and please write an anecdote about "a super expensive restaurant has opened in Jerusalem", if you know, of course, it will be very interesting to read.
      2. Shur
        0
        17 November 2013 18: 36
        Yes, in general g ... but in full swing. A sense. We are like sheep, and there are wolves.
  10. -2
    17 November 2013 09: 00
    Tsar vs president: the first DAM and a stool sat on a stake, the second in premieres and state corporations fool
    1. +7
      17 November 2013 14: 56
      Quote: patriot2
      I was especially pleased with the news about the employment of a furniture maker, such a talent “will not be wasted”! wassat
      Well, at the same level of benefit for the country and its "rich people" - the news about "rent for a month in advance"! fool
      Good review, everything is correctly noticed! smile

      I propose to legalize the brothels and appoint Taburetkin as the director, this is where the talent for recruiting employees will be.
      1. Shur
        +1
        17 November 2013 18: 38
        Ministry of Industry and Trade :)))
    2. +6
      17 November 2013 17: 03
      Peter Menshikov did not sit, and Ekaterina Potemkin did not. Communists fought corruption best of all. I bought a car and OBHSS is already here, explain what
  11. de bouillon
    +40
    17 November 2013 09: 01
    Serdyukov - CEO ?!

    wassat
    1. 0
      17 November 2013 18: 41
      But really - weakly 7
      1. 0
        17 November 2013 19: 06
        Thank ! I respect, but not your way!
  12. patriot2
    +4
    17 November 2013 09: 01
    I was especially pleased with the news about the employment of a furniture maker, such a talent “will not be wasted”! wassat
    Well, at the same level of benefit for the country and its "rich people" - the news about "rent for a month in advance"! fool
    Good review, everything is correctly noticed! smile
    1. 0
      17 November 2013 19: 47
      Nikolenka, you tell, WHERE to put talent? Do not let the old ...
  13. +20
    17 November 2013 09: 05
    They spat in everyone's face. This power is terribly far from the People.
    1. +10
      17 November 2013 09: 10
      After raising the salaries of deputies to the level of ministers (300-500 thousand per month), they became even further from the people
    2. grafrozow
      +33
      17 November 2013 10: 46
      11.11.13. Kremlin canteen, we should live like that !!! Medveputy, what do you say?
      1. +24
        17 November 2013 10: 57
        But doesn’t it seem strange that with such prices they are also unhappy?
        October 25 2012
        Deputies of the State Duma complained about high prices and not too large portions in the Duma's canteen; they were surprised at such complaints in the administration of the President of Russia, said Viktor Khrekov, spokesman for administrative affairs:
        “We are surprised by the question of high prices, apparently, deputies and employees of the State Duma have not dined outside the State Duma for a long time”

        although this check is related to:
        Department of Food and Services of the Household Services of the Federal Security Service
        1. grafrozow
          +11
          17 November 2013 11: 51
          Quote: Gleb
          State Duma deputies complained about high prices and not too large portions in the Duma canteen,
          Gleb, you have 2012, and I have 2013, where is the inflation?
          1. +6
            17 November 2013 12: 05
            what inflation? there were quite a few reports where they complained, and lunch cost an average of 100-150 rubles for small portions. so the question arose, isn’t it strange? (the check simply added, but the assortment is different? therefore the price the other) although I repeat that the checks are not related to the deputies. the FSO is clearly written.
            but in general you need to look who serves. what kind of dining room. why does it work to the detriment of itself ...
            here I saw Ukrainian prices in hryvnias. the truth for the 11th year
            1. grafrozow
              +1
              17 November 2013 12: 17
              Quote: Gleb
              who serves. what dining room. why does it work at the expense of itself ...
              Gleb, you can see everything on the check, but he is in charge of all this, the manager of the department under the "guarantor".
        2. 10kAzAk01
          +14
          17 November 2013 12: 48
          You can’t even buy a plate of borsch at our factory for such an amount !!!!!!!!!!!!! am
          1. grafrozow
            +5
            17 November 2013 13: 08
            Quote: 10kAzAk01
            You can’t even buy a plate of borsch at our factory for such an amount !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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            sorry, brother.
          2. SSR
            +10
            17 November 2013 15: 18
            Quote: 10kAzAk01
            You can’t even buy a plate of borsch at our factory for such an amount !!!!!!!!!!!!! am

            Yes, not only you, with such colors, no company will survive
            Shop- milk 0.9 liters - 45 rubles, a dozen eggs 52 rubles
            Buy it’s called a glass of milk / kefir for 10 rubles and one egg for 5 rubles, and don’t pay taxes to a cook, a dishwasher, a driver, an accountant / director, or taxes for 15 rubles of these tatupeds with schnitzel and others fit into 15-k .......
            Now I know where they built Communism! Personally, I’m at least ready to take to the streets, but only without party members and oral / edral - with ordinary people, ...... Damn no words, some emotions
            1. grafrozow
              +7
              17 November 2013 18: 18
              Quote from S.S.R.
              Personally, I’m at least ready to take to the streets, but only without party members and oral / edral - with ordinary people, ...... Damn no words, some emotions
              Reply Quote Report Abuse
              I'm with you.
      2. +16
        17 November 2013 10: 58
        Quote: grafrozow
        Kremlin canteen, we should live like that
        1. +12
          17 November 2013 11: 06
          We get caviar on the Amur from the refrigerator when there’s nothing to eat at home
          1. grafrozow
            +11
            17 November 2013 12: 04
            Quote: ivshubarin
            We get caviar on the Amur from the refrigerator when there’s nothing to eat at home
            Well, where can I get your bread? "White Sun of the Desert"
        2. grafrozow
          +18
          17 November 2013 12: 01
          http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/421/fzio198.jpg
          Quote: andrei332809
          http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/421/fzio198.jpg
          What do you think, maybe that medicine will help them?
          1. +8
            17 November 2013 13: 37
            Quote: grafrozow
            What do you think, maybe that medicine will help them?

            if only enter anally
          2. +2
            17 November 2013 15: 01
            Quote: grafrozow
            http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/421/fzio198.jpg
            Quote: andrei332809
            http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/421/fzio198.jpg
            What do you think, maybe that medicine will help them?

            It will help if in the form of rectal suppositories based on cellulose :)
      3. +2
        17 November 2013 13: 55
        grafrozow
        Since I am sometimes called putinoid, I will answer. :)))
        These prices are proof that all our respected parliamentarians, regardless of party affiliation, are the same.
        What is in the bucket, what is in the Communist Party, what is in the other parties, regardless of that. what are they yelling about - about the Putin regime, or about modernization, innovation and iPhones - they are all the same. No one refused a freebie and raised a high.
        They are equally honest, equally patriotic - they are commoners who have chosen political activity as a source of income. Those who are eager for the Kremlin are even worse. Like this. And we won’t do anything about it, such is the nature of people involved in politics, with the rarest exception.

        And so it has always been — remember the total corruption that flourished under Nicholas, who was ruled and led by all sorts of Great Princes, counts and other aristocrats who boasted of their origin. Incidentally, corruption was even worse then. than we have now ... even worse than now in the USA ...

        Now we can resent and be horrified by our corruption, because we can compare it with the minimum level that it reached under the bad communists. And so, it is quite European in our country, but lower than in the USA. :)))

        Are you satisfied with the answer? :)))
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +6
          17 November 2013 15: 39
          Quote: smile
          Since I am sometimes called putinoid-


          Well, it’s you yourself. wink !
          Quote: smile
          And it always has been


          Everywhere I practically agree, except for this phrase to which I answer.
          Yes, it was, but the circle of "thieves" was strictly defined, and now ... and even more so with PU belay this "all and all deeds" are elevated to the rank of GREATNESS !!!

          The State of the Kremlin, Vassals, field managers .. all the rest ... you will guess! soldier
          1. +1
            17 November 2013 17: 20
            VAF
            Thanks, vaf.
            I agree with the clarification. Believe it - no, I don't even want to protect Putin from the swamp. Even though I am absolutely shitty about them, my hands are thrown and all desire disappears. Since I am these same "everyone else", which I myself guessed ... :)))
        2. Horde
          +1
          17 November 2013 17: 36
          Quote: smile
          Since I am sometimes called putinoid-answer


          Well, in fact, you are certainly not a Putinist, but a bear man or even an orthodox-perpendicular idealist serdyukist ...

          Quote: smile
          What is in the bucket, what is in the Communist Party, what is in the other parties, regardless of that. what are they yelling about - about the Putin regime, or about modernization, innovation and iPhones - they are all the same. No one refused a freebie and raised a high.





          Quote: smile
          And so it has always been — remember the total corruption that flourished under Nicholas, who was ruled and led by all sorts of Great Princes, counts and other aristocrats who boasted of their origin. Incidentally, corruption was even worse then. than we have now ... even worse than now in the USA ..


          It seems we turn to examples of history?
          then can remember the Stalinist time did he forget that?
          the fact that it’s not Russian ki kings, then again not Russian ub_ bastards — the Putinoids are robbing the country, and Putin is roofing this state of things, it can only say one thing: TIME TO FIGHT WEAPONS ... 282 on __... uy
          1. +2
            17 November 2013 18: 41
            Horde
            1. Do not be rude, lad, more if I start to be rude, it will become sick. :)))
            2. If you ranked me as a bear, then you have not read any of my comments. I feel sincere contempt for Medvedev, as I have repeatedly said.
            3. But to you, I experience it even more. For one simple reason, you are a liar. Moreover, the liar is stupid - you are not able to lie so that you are not immediately caught by the paw. No brain, no fantasy - a miserable sight. :)))
            Examples of my approval of Serdyukov, Medvedev, examples of my statements about Stalin - on the barrel, please.

            And the proof of your pathological stupidity is your call to arms. Have you ever held it in your hands? Plastic pistols do not count. :)))
            And do not be so afraid of the 282nd. In principle, you will not earn anything but a belt on a stupid ass, because an examination will clearly reveal that your psychophysical development does not correspond to your biological age - your ridiculous screams would suit a fabulous child who has not reached the age of criminal prosecution. So, go to the corner - there you have a place - and think about your behavior.
            I am sure that your Mom does not know what her son is indulging in, otherwise she would have punished you long ago and explained that doing so is not good. :)))
            1. Horde
              +2
              17 November 2013 19: 52
              Quote: smile
              Do not be rude, lad, more if I start to be rude, it will become sick. :)


              offended is not bad! about being rude here is a whole art, you need to have more than just what you say, um? but also applications, a sense of perspective, as well as a sense of proportion, so as not to go far ... this does not apply to you.

              Quote: smile
              If you rank me as a bear


              yes, no, not to the bearists, to be a supporter of this, God forgive me a "politician" you have to completely be either a fool or an American, you just, as a faithful Putin, would like to remind you that such trustworthy followers as you are conformists for any power cause repulsive a feeling of disgusting abomination, because in fact you are justifying Putin's criminal personnel policy, stirring modern thieves' deeds with similar deeds of "grand dukes" and tsarist officials, as well as amerskih clerks.

              than we have now ... even worse than now in the USA


              Well, as for the comparison of ours, Serdyukov’s, with some kind of corruption in the United States, then it’s completely ridiculous
              -Tried to say, Chuck Hagel to buy Iveks to the detriment of the Hamers, so his capitalists would have wiped it off, but with us it is the other way around, or maybe what American minister closes military universities? like a stool? and Smile? maybe Mistral pin_ dos buy, that would ruin their shipbuilding? what do you say? this does not work for amers, only here. And why? probably because the Americans are in favor of their country, and Putin with a stool, and with Medvedev for what? Clearly not for ours.
              Well, in the light of these obvious facts, your words that corruption is everywhere and earlier and worse and not just a disgusting lie, but an impudent introduction to the FORMISSION of members of the forum. believe what you say here.
              1. +3
                17 November 2013 22: 03
                Horde
                Nice try. Thank.
                1.About the Americans, Ascet recently posted information ... I’m hiding for his authority (Ascetic is a rare person, it’s a shame that you don’t work in the organs), but you can go to other sources - according to the Americans, 40 percent of transactions The Pentagon in the Middle East is doubtful ... considering the rest, it steals annually about 300 billion dollars ... in total .... not enough? Are we cooler? Where to Serdyukov before real pros ... and foreign technology, Americans buy so much every year that these unfortunate Mistrals are so ... ugh .... you just did not try to take an interest in the topic ... because of such unreasonable things you say ....: )))

                2.You are trying to justify the need for a bloody bath in Russia ... for its own good ... this is a dubious matter .... I do not understand how it will be better for all of us that our neighbors, members of our family will die ... .because the guts will be released to you personally .... or are you such an ardent supporter of the bearded, whose only chance is that the Russians will begin to kill each other?

                And in general, I ran to the site for a moment ... my colleagues arranged a holiday at my place ... I drank it ... probably this creates a good mood in me ... therefore, I won’t start to lie about you .... Goodbye ... sir....
                1. -2
                  17 November 2013 22: 18
                  You and Ascetic are soundly reasoning, the rest only pity and thirst for blood, give them baricades.
                  1. +1
                    19 November 2013 00: 32
                    Aristarch
                    Thank. But sane here is full. And do not compare me with Ascetic, he is clearly cooler .... and his character is clearly better :))) This is me - a brawler ... :))))
                    And the barricades .... yes, those who call on them evoke different feelings from me ... and all the negative ones, from fastidiousness to rabies. Here I agree. But they, fortunately, are not the majority.
                2. Horde
                  -5
                  17 November 2013 22: 29
                  Quote: smile
                  .you just did not try to take an interest in the topic ... because of such unreasonable things and verb ...


                  examples; Smile let us, who is there in entoy America itself?
                  however, can you better give examples of how research centers are closed in America? or let's just ditch the electronics industry out of the blue? just turned Intel and Microsoft and Bill Gates left without a livelihood? or ceased to finance the nuclear industry, and all of the uranium began to be driven to Russia and China? even in the worst American dream you will not see this ...

                  Quote: smile
                  .or are you such an ardent supporter of the bearded, whose only chance is precisely that the Russians will begin to kill each other?

                  I’m lying again, I’m not a supporter of the bearded, if you are talking about Wahhabis, but on the contrary, I want the Syrian government to rub all the bearded friends of Israel and America into the mud. As for our house, then the time has come to put things in order without non-Russians .. .

                  Quote: smile
                  And in general, I ran to the site for a moment ... my colleagues arranged a holiday at my place ... I drank it ... probably it creates my good


                  before work week? you live well ...
                  1. -1
                    18 November 2013 01: 38
                    Horde
                    I came home ... yeah I saw you ..... you know, it’s strange that you are planting ..... about what I caught .... what are you trying to break off? Unfortunate, behave correctly .... please behave accordingly
      4. DPN
        +2
        17 November 2013 20: 03
        After that, they say that communism is a utopia, with a salary of 250000 rubles.
      5. 0
        19 November 2013 15: 11
        11.11.13. Kremlin canteen, we should live like that !!! Medveputy, what do you say?
        Is it in dollars or euros?
  14. +5
    17 November 2013 09: 08
    Serdyukov is a criminal and must be punished!
    1. grafrozow
      +3
      17 November 2013 13: 13
      their do not pass, questions ????
    2. +4
      17 November 2013 15: 46
      Quote: akmoa781
      Serdyukov is a criminal and must be punished!


      rightly punished and appointed director of Russian Technologies !! wassat
    3. Serdyukov
      -4
      17 November 2013 18: 47
      Quote: akmoa781
      Serdyukov is a criminal and must be punished!

      You are a criminal and must be punished! Say that this is an unfounded statement, but yours is not? What do you know about Serdyukov, besides the fact that you have been punished by media that depend on the West?
      1. +2
        17 November 2013 19: 59
        By such a question you put them into a dead end)))
        1. +3
          17 November 2013 20: 07
          Quote: Aristarchus
          By such a question you put them into a dead end)))


          it was with such questions that he put the investigation into a dead end. Here he went as a witness.
          1. 0
            17 November 2013 20: 12
            Perhaps everything requires proof, but for many here they are not needed)) they are already clear)
      2. Horde
        +2
        17 November 2013 20: 12
        Quote: Serdyukov
        You are a criminal and must be punished! Say that this is an unfounded statement, but yours is not? What do you know about Serdyukov, besides the fact that you have been punished by media that depend on the West?


        oh, you probably know that something good is good about the boy Tolya, he probably doesn't pick his finger in his nose? or always, when he haggled with stools, then honestly handed over the entire tax to the penny to the state? Well, the love of being a minister to women substitutes, of course, was platonic and worthy of all respect. Do not torment tell us good things about Serdyukov?
  15. de bouillon
    +9
    17 November 2013 09: 08
    Quote: major071
    On November 16, the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier was handed over to the Indian side. Vikramaditya immediately becomes the flagship of the Indian Navy.

    I watched the news on this topic on the news. The Indian crew was waiting for the authorities a couple of hours in the ranks in the cold wind, from dark-skinned it turned blue in its winter uniform, reminiscent of our demi-season. As always, Rogozin spoke with the words that now Russia will begin to build aircraft carriers for itself.



    here is RIA news yesterday

    The heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov is not yet planned to be repaired due to lack of funding.

    Earlier, the media reported that the Sevmash shipbuilding enterprise in the first half of 2014 will begin repairs and deep modernization of the Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser. It was planned that the ship will return to the Navy five years after the start of work.

    At the same time, a new aircraft carrier, according to him, could be built in ten years, and it would have cost about 330 billion rubles. "The existing capacities and the experience gained at Sevmash make it possible to build a new ship of this class. This process is not easy, but it is not so much technically difficult as unique," Vlasov noted. He added that the appearance of the new aircraft carrier can be imagined only approximately, but in general it will be similar to the Kuznetsov.

    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20131115/977201525.html

    those. we again lie that lack of funding, but at the same time: Petersburg may be a serious contender for the OI-2024, Zhukov believes

    in short, who thinks up a steeper cut, and in St. Petersburg there are a lot of Putin’s Koreshans, it’s clear who pulls the thread
    http://ria.ru/spb/20131116/977322172.html
    1. DPN
      +1
      17 November 2013 20: 21
      Which aircraft carrier, we would have to deal with the spot: the Universiade, the Olympics, Ch.M in football, the Universiade again, and if again O.I. 2024. Is it not to hell for one country, if other countries refuse. For that kind of money from Russia, a paradise can be made for the people.
  16. +5
    17 November 2013 09: 12
    ... There is also a duality of attitude towards the United States, for example, China and some Latin American countries: at the same time they do not want American hegemony, but at the same time they are very dependent on Washington in trade ...
    The process will be long, but inevitable.
    For the past 80 years, the United States has stubbornly planted the world on dollar traffic. And it will turn out like with Windows - and do not like it, and in return there is nothing to offer.
    1. grafrozow
      -4
      17 November 2013 12: 09
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      For the past 80 years, the United States has stubbornly planted the world on dollar traffic. And it will turn out like with Windows - and do not like it, and in return there is nothing to offer.
      As far as I can remember, everyone predicts the end of the states, the end has come to komunyaks, the full end, what next?
      1. +5
        17 November 2013 14: 09
        grafrozow
        Yes, the USA was kept afloat due to the fact that the USSR collapsed.
        It is not clear otherwise - here you are terribly unhappy with the "commies", but at the same time unhappy with the current Putin regime, which, nevertheless. an order of magnitude better for Russia than Elobonov's.
        The question arises, what are you generally satisfied with? Or are you a professional dissatisfied, as well as a significant part of our tiligentsia since the 19th century, whom Lenin called "Mr. Nation"?
        In theory, you should welcome the overthrow of bad commies and rejoice at all the changes in our society. After all, happiness fell on our heads - there were no communists .... So how? "Are you warm, girl? Are you warm, blue?" :)))
        1. Horde
          +2
          17 November 2013 17: 50
          Quote: smile
          Nonetheless. much better for Russia than elobonovsky.
          The question arises, what are you generally satisfied with? Or are you a professional dissatisfied, as well as a significant part of our tiligentsia since the 19th century, whom Lenin called "Mr. Nation"?


          how many can you recall COMMUNISTIC DISORDERS? although it is impossible to say anything particularly good about communism, because it is a product of the ideologically Jewish Marx,
          practically created and built with the participation of the Jewish kagal, but THIS abomination, as Putin is doing today with his associates, has never been the history of RUSSIA.
          There is only one conclusion. TO DRIVE THE WHOLE PUTIN COLLECTION OF SCAMS OF SCRAPPED Broomstick ...
        2. grafrozow
          -1
          17 November 2013 18: 27
          Quote: smile
          The question is, what are you generally satisfied with
          I am pleased that tomorrow they will not pick up the 58th, and we can discuss this topic with you, not enough?
          1. Horde
            +1
            17 November 2013 18: 43
            Quote: grafrozow
            I am pleased that tomorrow they will not pick up the 58th, and we can discuss this topic with you, not enough?


            there is a more fashionable 282 for you ...
            1. +2
              17 November 2013 20: 08
              Quote: Horde
              there is a more fashionable 282 for you ...


              Sew a decree of seven eight, boss?)) wassat
              1. Horde
                +1
                17 November 2013 21: 28



                On August 7, 1932, the Council of People's Commissars, together with the Central Executive Committee of the USSR, adopted a resolution toughening responsibility for the theft of socialist property. "Meeting the demands of the workers and collective farmers", it was signed by the chairman of the Central Executive Committee - the "All-Union Warden" Mikhail Kalinin and the Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars Comrade Molotov (aka Skryabin).


                it wouldn’t hurt now ...
  17. +5
    17 November 2013 09: 13
    The CIA and the Pentagon are trying to persuade the US Department of State not to issue a permit to Roskosmos to build several GLONASS measuring stations on American territory because of fears that they might be used for military purposes, writes the New York Times.
    According to the newspaper, the American intelligence services and the Pentagon fear that if the State Department allows the deployment of GLONASS stations, then Russia will receive a "bridgehead on American territory, which will significantly increase the accuracy of Russian guided missiles." They also suggest that the stations can be used for intelligence activities directly from the United States. Because of these suspicions, the White House has delayed making a final decision on the placement of stations until Russia provides additional data. On the territory of Russia there are 19 measuring stations of the American GPS system.
    1. Chervonets
      +6
      17 November 2013 12: 24
      One out of two.
      1. Either in the contract, when placing stations in Russia, the response right is specified for the placement of similar stations in the territory of AI
      2. Or, the second option, in case of refusal to place Russian stations in the USA, Russia will stupidly close the ones in Russia.

      => (IMHO) nothing to worry about
      1. Shur
        +1
        17 November 2013 19: 22
        Option 3-ri-All corny paid.
    2. Horde
      0
      17 November 2013 17: 55
      Quote: BARKAS
      The CIA and the Pentagon are trying to persuade the US Department of State not to issue a permit to Roskosmos to build several GLONASS measuring stations on American territory because of fears that they might be used for military purposes, writes the New York Times.


      here it is called within its walls there are no enemies, but we need territory for amerskie warehouses, please, and all the liberoid bastard will prove for a long time that "the base in Ulyanovsk is a GOOD for Russia"
  18. +13
    17 November 2013 09: 15
    Serdyukov becomes a star ... The word "serdyuk" in my opinion will soon enter the Russian mat as the dirtiest curse word (soon they will be banned for this word ...) laughing
    1. grafrozow
      +1
      17 November 2013 12: 11
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Serdyukov becomes a star ... The word "serdyuk" in my opinion will soon enter the Russian mat as the dirtiest curse word (soon they will be banned for this word ...)
      Like, we live well, friends will help ....
      1. +5
        17 November 2013 15: 49
        "Your credo? - Always !! in which regiment did you serve? Homeland in Danger! Abroad will help us !!" laughing
        1. +3
          17 November 2013 18: 34
          Quote: lonely
          "Your credo? - Always !! in which regiment did you serve? Homeland is in danger! Abroad will help us !!"

          It remains to give parabellum to Tolyan ... Maybe he will shoot himself ... from nothing to do, but not out of shame.
          1. grafrozow
            0
            17 November 2013 18: 49
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            Parabellum left
            if you want peace, get ready for war. - Parabellum.
        2. grafrozow
          0
          17 November 2013 18: 47
          Quote: lonely
          "Your credo? - Always !! in which regiment did you serve? Homeland in Danger! Abroad will help us !!"
          Hello lobster, 12 classic chairs,
          1. 0
            17 November 2013 19: 27
            Hail Alexander! Immortal words hi
    2. +6
      17 November 2013 12: 20
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The word "serdyuk" in my opinion will soon be in Russian mat

      Why checkmate? It is also possible to introduce the term "Serdyukovism" into literary language, especially when describing historical "moments"!
    3. Chervonets
      +7
      17 November 2013 12: 26
      and the meaning of this word will be:
      "thieving unsinkable 3,14 .. duke"?
      1. +5
        17 November 2013 14: 12
        Chervonets
        Yeah ... emphasis on "unsinkable". Everyone knows that he does not sink ... :)))
    4. Hudo
      +8
      17 November 2013 13: 38
      MIKHAN SU Today, 09:15

      Serdyukov is becoming a star ... The word "serdyuk" in my opinion will soon enter the Russian mat as the dirtiest curse word (soon they will be banned for this word ...) laughing

      - Then follows an untranslatable pun using local idiomatic expressions.
      - Aite the coupon! Misen eat Casabla Pinto! Masturzo nikmenzo alanyet cha-cha-cha torcadero bitz !!! (Shut up!)
      - Porco Madonna, di um pesto per baco castello !!! Di mele brano hemare, Inches arvestih, cham dural !!! (Sorry, got excited.)
      - Shyort poobery!
      - Crocus skunko benshlak Serdyuk!!
      - Crocus Skunk Serdyuk thor benshlak? !!!
      1. +4
        17 November 2013 15: 50
        Gleb, have you forgotten "Tsigel, Tsigel !! Ay lyu lyu !!
        1. Hudo
          +2
          17 November 2013 18: 02
          Omar, excommunicated from the thieves' workshop and looking older (from the transfer of an excessive amount of restaurant food) with the face of Ai-lyu-lyu (Vasilyev) "languishes" in a comfortable 13-room ravelin, instead of wearing sandals to fight off losses while standing on Tverskaya while laying clients "ai- lu-li ". Although even there you need an eye and an eye for her - so that she does not send the reins to the clown girl.
  19. +29
    17 November 2013 09: 16
    I will probably express the opinion of many Russian citizens. If Serdyukov and his company are not imprisoned (and not just imprisoned, but with the wording "For treason"), then irreparable may happen - a huge number of thinking, literate Russians will simply consider themselves free from any obligations to the state that allows such a mockery of law-abiding Russians.
    1. +21
      17 November 2013 09: 22
      Quote: andyandy111
      such a mockery of law-abiding Russians.

      My old mother, having learned the news "about Serdyukov," asked me when the next elections were.
      I asked why she needed this, because I didn’t go to the past.
      -Now, I’ll go! let him know that I am against!
      But she is a very patient person, she has changed seven places of service with her father: the Far East, the Far North, the Caucasus, Belarus, and now her patience has come to an end.
      1. anomalocaris
        +6
        17 November 2013 11: 27
        So what? Does anyone really care? Vovochka will sleep badly, and Dimochka will gobble up the iPhone?
        No, guys, you won’t get this audience like that. Something needs to be slaughtered
        1. SSR
          +5
          17 November 2013 15: 27
          Quote: anomalocaris
          So what? Does anyone really care? Vovochka will sleep badly, and Dimochka will gobble up the iPhone?
          No, guys, you won’t get this audience like that. Something needs to be slaughtered

          The 17th year, but if not a repeat hunt.
          1. +8
            17 November 2013 15: 57
            Quote from S.S.R.
            The 17th year, but if not a repeat hunt.

            good Because all the same burry boys will head this Temochka.
            1. Hudo
              +4
              17 November 2013 18: 04
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote from S.S.R.
              The 17th year, but if not a repeat hunt.

              good Because all the same burry boys will head this Temochka.


              ... and not the fact that this time these tough boys will admit a Georgian from Gori to their company ...
              1. +3
                17 November 2013 19: 39
                Quote: Hudo
                and it’s not a fact that this time these tough boys will admit a Georgian from Gori to their company ...

                Fact. What will not be allowed. If you believe the story, they rarely come on a rake a second time.
                1. Hudo
                  +1
                  17 November 2013 20: 04
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Fact. What will not be allowed. If you believe the story, they rarely come on a rake a second time.


                  No, not a FACT! The most ardent anti-sims come from the Zionists, like the mythical serpent urobross (dr. Greek οὐροβόρος, from οὐρά “tail” and βορός “devouring”; letters. by the tail.
                  1. +2
                    17 November 2013 20: 14
                    Quote: Hudo
                    No, not a FACT! The most ardent anti-sims come from the Zionists, like the mythical snake urobross

                    There is still a legend about the golem, in fact, it seems. But I doubt that they will once again allow the situation to go by itself, as in the case of Hitler.
                    1. Hudo
                      +1
                      17 November 2013 20: 26
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      . But I doubt that they will once again allow the situation to go by itself, as in the case of Hitler.


                      Different situations arise, it often happens that the dog bites the hand of the nurse, but does not just bite - he tries to cling to his throat.
                      1. +1
                        17 November 2013 20: 30
                        Quote: Hudo
                        Different situations

                        One desire is not to oversleep the situation, but to help the "poor" dog. drinks
                      2. Hudo
                        +2
                        17 November 2013 20: 52
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        One desire is not to oversleep the situation, but to help the "poor" dog. drinks

                        Himself, there is no anger at all - one refined cold and calculating rage. If only there was no mistake in the dog, otherwise it was already in August 1991 - it seemed to everyone that HE was the hour of reckoning ... But it turned out that the marshal was not a real one, but simply a sent dummy Cossack. "Strengthen Vigilance" yes "Do not succumb to provocations" - well, they strengthened and did not give in. You yourself know what happened next.
              2. +4
                17 November 2013 22: 10
                Quote: Hudo
                and it’s not a fact that this time these tough boys will admit a Georgian from Gori to their company ...


                The most important thing is that all these liberals and pseudo-patriots are nationalists demanding the overthrow of the government, when asked, for whom and for what? They begin to talk indistinctly like the Bolsheviks, we will destroy the whole world of violence to the ground ... and then all the same characters who have foreign money influence and power will come, So the People's Alliance was created for Navalny. The program is the same Prokhorov's. Two times already on a rake at 17 internationalists came to power as it turns out for foreign money, and in 1991 the same fields of berries not finished by Stalin, the grandchildren of internationalists called democrats ... And now who? What sauce? Nationalists Potkin and DPNI demanding to separate the Caucasus? So there, in fact, the same audience. It is as if the third time not to step on a rake. Where is the program, where is the intelligible idea. Where the national leader is in the studio, gentlemen, the all-perpetuating revolutionaries, alarmists. So after all, there is nothing behind the soul, only howls about that how bad everything is and Putin is to blame for everything.
                1. Hudo
                  +2
                  17 November 2013 22: 14
                  Quote: Ascetic
                  .It’s as if for the third time not to step on the rake


                  From the third time the country can be completely ejected.
                2. +1
                  17 November 2013 22: 15
                  Yes, and there are reasonable people here, thanks to Ascetic.
              3. 0
                19 November 2013 15: 54
                Quote: Hudo
                .. and not the fact that this time these tough boys will admit a Georgian from Gori to their company ..

                When N. Starikov becomes uncomfortable for the old jambs and from hints like "where were you in August 91?" he replies: "Yes, we were all brainwashed then." Here he is greatly mistaken about "everyone", but, it seems, not about you.
                Who allowed anyone there is another question. At least, according to nationality, at the first stage no one was divided, and Stalin never separated himself from Lenin until the end of his life — he considered him his teacher and ally.
            2. 0
              19 November 2013 15: 49
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Because the same burry boys will head this little Temochka

              It is not clear - "Because" why? Or why "Because"?
              Is it because they are "burr" or because they need it the most, or do they have such karma? Maybe this is the statistical data of the Levada-Tsetra, based on the results of centuries-old observations of the "burritos" in the history of Russia? Or, nevertheless, someone specially instilled in us that "these themes" are headed only by the "burr" or who headed such a topic is the "burr"? In addition, a contradiction arises here, if we assume the truth of another statement that "revolutions are made by some, and others use their fruits." It turns out that some "burr" are leading the "theme", others, more passionate "burr" destroy the first and begin to use, damn it, the fruits - to fry kebabs and shear sheep from the captured flock.
              Maybe it’s time to already understand the obvious that a highly organized minority has always easily opposed an amorphous majority? And it doesn’t matter who these burrs are ethnic crime or officials united by corporate interest. And if the "herd" is unable to organize itself by a community of interests (a system of values), then it will remain a herd, moreover, without a shepherd with a good lash, it will simply bite together.
              “Without a community of interests there can be no unity of purpose” F. Engels
              And tasks (slogans) - private goals can coincide with the enemies.
          2. anomalocaris
            0
            18 November 2013 15: 28
            I don’t want either, but are there any options?
            There was hope ten years ago, for some (not mine), but now there is no faith, no hope ...
          3. 0
            19 November 2013 15: 43
            Quote from S.S.R.
            The 17th year, but if not a repeat hunt.

            The thought did not understand - "not a repeat hunt"? Not a hunt to bring the country to a zugunder, how was it brought to the end of the 17th? Or is it not a desire to once again bring to the zugunder those who brought the country to the zugunder? Water does not flow under a lying stone, and anyone who is just waiting will not expect anything good.
    2. +4
      17 November 2013 11: 42
      Quote: andyandy111
      a huge number of thinking, literate Russians will simply consider themselves free from all obligations to the state,

      Not quite right now, this applies only to those who occupy senior posts or are close to them and now a huge number of thinking, literate Russians they will know about it getting rid of illusions, the result will be in the next election.
      1. +5
        17 November 2013 14: 30
        I don’t understand that everyone is indignant about Serdyukov? They themselves asked that he be imprisoned, and they put him in his post. But seriously, I thought that his business would be "slowed down", but that would be like this request ...I have no words.
        1. +5
          17 November 2013 14: 45
          Because they are looking to the West, and there they did not put Berlusconi and Chirac. It is necessary to look at China
    3. Horde
      +1
      17 November 2013 20: 41
      Quote: andyandy111
      they will simply consider themselves free from all obligations to the state, allowing such mockery of law-abiding Russians.


      and zurab?
      and fix it?
      and Fursenko?
      and Patrushev?
      , and how much smaller rank bureaucratic bastards? and all these oligarchs, Putin’s friends are fattening on national property? WHEN DO YOU BEGIN TO MATURE ???
    4. 0
      17 November 2013 22: 24
      It happened a long time ago that "the severity of Russian laws is compensated by the non-binding nature of their implementation."
    5. +2
      18 November 2013 17: 47
      Quote: andyandy111
      ... and not just planted, but with the wording "For treason")

      This is what they did under Stalin - Article 58 was imputed to thieves, since the terms under thieves' articles did not provide for "especially large thefts" and were scanty. That is, corruption and theft were then mortally dangerous - big thieves and corrupt officials always got what they deserved so that their relatives still curse Stalin and, interestingly, all political (innocently affected by the Soviet regime), self-rehabilitated and thirsty "righteous" revenge.
    6. 0
      18 November 2013 23: 28
      I will say more ... Many Russians consider themselves not free from the oath given to their homeland - the USSR! And you need only a leader and a team ... so all these Serdyukovites, repairs, Chubays and others like them are already fed up !!!
  20. +6
    17 November 2013 09: 19
    The deputy of the Lithuanian Seimas Pyatras Grazhulis, known for his negative attitude to homosexuals, made a gift to the local gay league. The fact is that the parliamentarian gave the gay jeans ... with a zipper sewn in the back. In the league, they were not happy with the gift.
    You can’t understand these homosexuals when everyone screams that they are homosexuals, they don’t like it, but they like to dress, paint and everywhere scream with pride that they are homosexuals, then such a gift must be accepted with at least humor laughing
    1. makarov
      +6
      17 November 2013 09: 57
      And also, according to rumors, the deputy of the Lithuanian Seimas Petras Grazhulis, intends to supplement the traffic rules of Lithuania with a new road sign with the name "Enter only with the backside" with a corresponding image and description of poses.
      1. +4
        17 November 2013 10: 19
        haha, more car numbers to do with a rainbow flag, I got so this powerful American-American cockroach attack on countries that weren’t polluted by it, more talking than fighting terrorism and drug addiction
  21. +9
    17 November 2013 09: 20
    enchanting proposal came from the head of the Russian government Dmitry Medvedev. Dmitry Anatolyevich decided to further concern himself with the fate of citizens and put forward the idea according to which you and I would have to pay for utilities not upon the fact of providing them, but a month in advance ...

    Excuse me, but when the cat has nothing to do, he licks one place. What I propose to do for the reformers, who probably live on another planet and are very far from the people.
  22. +19
    17 November 2013 09: 24
    He was late for the news about Serdyukov. And to be honest, I was not in a hurry - I never thought that he would get what he deserved, at least as long as the GDP is in force.

    But seriously, the appointment of Serdyukov as general director of a federal company is what? It is state-owned companies! What's this?! To say that this is a mockery - to say nothing. This, excuse me, outrage ... Outrage is not even so much over the citizens of Russia (we are gray people, our opinion is not taken into account “there”), but above the law and conscience. Abuse of representatives of authorities over themselves. This, excuse me, is generally the rape of the state legal system in a particularly perverted form. What else can you say ... Curtain.


    No, ladies and gentlemen, it's not rape. Rape is when the victim resists, or at least makes it clear that she does not agree, she is against. And the state legal system of the state is not against it. So it's "by mutual agreement"

    No, gentlemen, glory to the traders, this is not
    The abuse of representatives of the authorities over themselves.
    This is a signal to all representatives of the authorities - you will be loyal and ALL will be forgiven to you, just do not forget to share.

    This is exactly:
    Abuse ..... of Russian citizens ..... of the law and of conscience.


    You can wipe yourself, we don’t get used to it ....
    A curtain.
  23. +7
    17 November 2013 09: 27
    ARTICLE IS NOT COMPLETE !!! In the morning, the news about the destruction of the terrorist - Wahabbit Sokolov, responsible for the terrorist attack in Volgograd, was pleased.
  24. +3
    17 November 2013 09: 32
    Such usually (Serdyukovs), if they cannot be imprisoned, they would be sent as ambassadors to some Zimbabvo, etc. so that the people would not annoy .. Putin disappointed me (unless of course this is some sort of multi-way game, at first angry the people and then all the Serdyukovs in bulk across Russia arrests, etc.) Well, I don’t know something is muddy all this is somehow ...
    1. anomalocaris
      +7
      17 November 2013 11: 31
      Where to get angry?
    2. Yarosvet
      +4
      17 November 2013 17: 12
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Unless of course this is some sort of multi-way game, first to anger the people and then all the Serdyukovs together in bulk across Russia, mass arrests, etc.

      good

  25. +6
    17 November 2013 09: 34
    What do you want if thieves are in power ...
    1. -5
      17 November 2013 14: 17
      Technologist
      You are welcome. Tell me where they are not. Very interesting.
      1. +2
        17 November 2013 16: 15
        Quote: smile
        You are welcome. Tell me where they are not. Very interesting.

        Hello Vladimir. Stalin also once started with robbery, but then he built for a long time. When will Ours finally come to their senses, but eat up? Personally, I would ask the GDP for everything if it turned to face the Country, and not outward. So far, only words. I do not see any real leaders capable of raising the country on the horizon, there is still weak hope for the Izborsk Club, but again, weak. hi
        1. 0
          17 November 2013 17: 12
          Ingvar 72
          Hello.
          To be honest, I don’t understand where he is looking. One gets the impression that he did not come to an understanding of how to raise the country — that’s how it turns out — a step forward, two steps backward. Sometimes, in general, it seems to act by poking. So far, our general trends are positive, but some body movements are simply inexplicable.
  26. +6
    17 November 2013 09: 37
    Citizens, this is abuse


    Judging by the fact that the press "shut up" - the case "smells of kerosene." Either a good provocation, or a "distribution of elephants" is being prepared. The level is too high for a simple "error".

    Foreign policy - approving s good

    "You are not taking care of yourself, Yuri ...


    Do not assume that such a statement was made by a ... -one. There is a rule: You can’t overcome the IDEA - lead it and bring it to the point of absurdity. And there are pawns.

    The East bleeds, the Poles are on fire, and the Balts do not know who to "attack". And the ears are the same bully .

    Beautiful far to America cruelly


    I do not want evil, but it's time to turn on the head fool .

    Yes! Set a week hi .
  27. +15
    17 November 2013 09: 43
    Syria: 72 rebels lay down their arms in 600 hours

    The Syrian newspaper Al-Watan reports that over the past 72 hours, arms have been laid down throughout the country and 600 rebels have surrendered.

    Those who surrendered were handed over to the special services, which began an investigation of their actions.

    The offensive of the Syrian army south of Damascus, in the area of ​​Babil, adjacent to the stronghold of the rebels, the city of Yalda, created panic among the militants. Most of them intend to surrender or flee, but some of them express their willingness to stand to the end.

    The army intends to continue operations in the Yalda area. The tactics of blocking rebel resistance bastions has proven effective. There is a collapse in the morale of the militants, and the voices of those who are ready to surrender and lay down their arms are getting louder.

    At the same time, fierce battles of opposition groups with the army in the Karakh region were reported. The civilian population flees from Karah to the Lebanese city of Arsal, in the last hours several hundred people crossed the border.
  28. +8
    17 November 2013 09: 44
    Serbia pleased. military cooperation with the Slav brothers is like a sickle in one place for the European enemies of Russia
    1. Yarosvet
      +2
      17 November 2013 17: 21
      Quote: Woolfy
      military cooperation with the Slav brothers is like a sickle in one place for the European enemies of Russia


      http://chipstone.livejournal.com/1026448.html
      1. Hudo
        +3
        17 November 2013 18: 14
        Quote: Yarosvet
        Quote: Woolfy
        military cooperation with the Slav brothers is like a sickle in one place for the European enemies of Russia


        http://chipstone.livejournal.com/1026448.html


        +++++++++++++++ Yes! How Fyodor Mikhailovich looked into the water!
  29. THIEF SHOULD
    +3
    17 November 2013 09: 45
    wow thief should be in jail hahaha good
  30. +5
    17 November 2013 09: 46
    Quote: igor67
    Syria: 72 rebels lay down their arms in 600 hours

    The Syrian newspaper Al-Watan reports that over the past 72 hours, arms have been laid down throughout the country and 600 rebels have surrendered.

    Those who surrendered were handed over to the special services, which began an investigation of their actions.

    The offensive of the Syrian army south of Damascus, in the area of ​​Babil, adjacent to the stronghold of the rebels, the city of Yalda, created panic among the militants. Most of them intend to surrender or flee, but some of them express their willingness to stand to the end.

    The army intends to continue operations in the Yalda area. The tactics of blocking rebel resistance bastions has proven effective. There is a collapse in the morale of the militants, and the voices of those who are ready to surrender and lay down their arms are getting louder.

    At the same time, fierce battles of opposition groups with the army in the Karakh region were reported. The civilian population flees from Karah to the Lebanese city of Arsal, in the last hours several hundred people crossed the border.

    Great news! Thank you .. Well done Syrians!
    1. Hudo
      +4
      17 November 2013 10: 26
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Syria: 72 rebels lay down their arms in 600 hours


      Not very happy. No matter how they emerged from the rear of government forces, and did not take up the former with renewed vigor. It’s better as in the saying - she died, so she died - so the soul is somehow calmer.
    2. +1
      17 November 2013 10: 47
      Yes, well done definitely !.
      1. +1
        17 November 2013 15: 53
        if you read all the messages of Al-Vatan, about half of Syria surrendered to the authorities since the war was going on there. Do you really not understand what the information war is going on.
        Jihadists never give up.
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  32. 0
    17 November 2013 09: 55
    Quote: andyandy111
    I will probably express the opinion of many Russian citizens. If Serdyukov and his company are not imprisoned (and not just imprisoned, but with the wording "For treason"), then the irreparable may happen - a huge number of thinking, literate Russians will simply consider themselves free from any obligations to the state that allows such a mockery of law-abiding citizens.
  33. Cpa
    +3
    17 November 2013 09: 59
    About Obama's red line, as the gypsies say, "don't be a menace and you won't be afraid." lol
    1. +12
      17 November 2013 10: 36
      Good day to all hi

      quote-One news is due to the fact that the State Duma (or rather the deputy from the LDPR faction Mikhail Degtyarev) again worried about the fate of the dollar in Russia, calling for the abolition of dollar circulation and storage of American currency.

      regarding the first quote I will present my considerations. So we have a speech by a member of the Liberal Democratic Party. Look, we all mercilessly criticize at the mention of words something liberal or democratic and express our negative attitude when used. the country's main liberalist and shit, and if you add the word clowns, the abbreviation of the party will be called LDPK.
      Why are clowns, Zhirinovsky "politician" who always spoke and speaks when the authorities are silent or have nothing to say in the most delicate situations, or when the authorities want to express their attitude but cannot because of diplomatic etiquette, and here the main liberalist comes to the rescue at the command of fas. one remark probably you all paid attention to the words in the title that I mentioned above, but the words patriot for some reason not. What is this ?! Unlike Zhirinovsky, write you. But no, he never was and never will be a patriot. These are fairy tales for people who vote for him and follow him.
      Now, directly at the suggestion of a member of the party of clowns, Degtyarev, to ban dollar circulation. I personally, apart from PR actions, did this party remember anything; I forgot about the scandalous and hysterical tricks of Vladimir Volfovich.
      An excellent idea of ​​Degtyarev, but how about banning the euro ?! What about the stealing officials, oligarchs and criminal elements entrenched in state power ?! What, then, in what will they keep "their honest earned money" ?! In rubles ?! laughing


      quote-Another piece of news is Dmitry Medvedev’s proposal to take an advance payment for housing and communal services from the Russians.

      Well, the "reformer" Dmitry Anatolyevich surprises me not for the first time with his extravagant statements. Well, you need to pay him in advance, give him the housing and communal services? Make ends meet?! First put things in order in the housing and communal services and, most importantly, in the economy as a whole, and at the same time with the wages of the population, and only then, it will be possible to reason. Actually, I am no longer surprised by a guy who has not taxed himself and still wants to steer. Dmitry Anatolyevich, the country called Russia is not an iPhone or iPad, with all kinds of games.
      1. Chervonets
        +5
        17 November 2013 12: 35
        Quote: Apollon
        Good day to all hi
        quote-Another piece of news is Dmitry Medvedev’s proposal to take an advance payment for housing and communal services from the Russians.

        Well, the "reformer" Dmitry Anatolyevich surprises me not for the first time with his extravagant statements. Well, you need to pay him in advance, give him the housing and communal services? Make ends meet?! First put things in order in the housing and communal services and, most importantly, in the economy as a whole, and at the same time with the wages of the population, and only then, it will be possible to reason. Actually, I am no longer surprised by a guy who has not taxed himself and still wants to steer. Dmitry Anatolyevich, the country called Russia is not an iPhone or iPad, with all kinds of games.

        I invite you, DAM, to make an advance payment - serve a term or two in Sailor's silence. In advance.
        P.S. With all the support of Putin, I don’t understand the story of Serdyukov and the loyalty to the blockhead in the prime minister’s chair.
      2. 10kAzAk01
        +5
        17 November 2013 12: 53
        quote-Another piece of news is Dmitry Medvedev’s proposal to take an advance payment for housing and communal services from the Russians.

        It will be something like this ........ came to the hairdresser, first paid, and then they will make such a "CLASS" hairstyle for you (except bald ones) ... or got into a taxi, paid and how he started you on carry the whole amount !!!!!!!!! (and most importantly, all without change!)
      3. +4
        17 November 2013 14: 40
        Quote: Apollon
        Dmitry Anatolyevich, the country called Russia is not an iPhone or iPad, with all kinds of games.
        Damn decided to play in the "zombie farm".
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  35. pahom54
    +6
    17 November 2013 10: 06
    It is too great an honor for Serdyuk to devote so many conversations to him.
    The question can be resolved very simply: SNIPER - TO STUDIO !!!
    1. Hudo
      +5
      17 November 2013 10: 34
      Quote: pahom54
      The question can be resolved very simply: SNIPER - TO STUDIO !!!


      Such matters cannot be resolved with the kondachka — not a sniper — the executioner.
      1. +2
        17 November 2013 10: 47
        To please everyone, you can arrange a car accident
        1. Hudo
          +2
          17 November 2013 11: 27
          Quote: ivshubarin
          To please everyone, you can arrange a car accident


          And so that an ice ax accidentally fell from the roof, wouldn't it go? Not?! request
          1. +1
            17 November 2013 11: 42
            It will be very symbolic
            1. Hudo
              +1
              17 November 2013 11: 48
              Quote: ivshubarin
              It will be very symbolic


              Symbolic Well, be it your way - two ice axes at once. It would be better, of course, of three - so that no one could even think, which is no accident. feel
              1. +2
                17 November 2013 12: 42
                Two to the head, where's the third? Although it’s clear where
          2. +2
            17 November 2013 15: 54
            Brick just does not fall into anyone’s head!))
      2. +3
        17 November 2013 16: 42
        Quote: Hudo
        Such matters cannot be resolved with the kondachka — not a sniper — the executioner.

        It is the executioner good If he grunts from a sniper, then they will also make him a national hero. Not the first time. drinks
  36. me
    me
    +13
    17 November 2013 10: 20
    I am not a thief, I am an effective manager!
    1. +3
      17 November 2013 15: 46
      For humor "+" laughing
    2. +1
      17 November 2013 15: 55
      laughing Did you miss the letter "D" or a typo?))))
  37. +7
    17 November 2013 10: 22
    GOOD ECONOMY - shod all the Ministry of Defense !!!! The next year, probably nominated for a Nobel Prize for success in mechanical engineering !!!!
  38. +20
    17 November 2013 10: 23
    In general, the Feldmebel, as I understand it, is removed only in one case ... As in a joke.
    "Two officers of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation are talking.
    - I heard Serdyukov was removed?
    - Who was it removed from? "
    In general, the principle is strange. Like, "Steal Tolik and further. Sorry, the" feeder "is smaller, not the RF Ministry of Defense, but there is always enough for a loaf of caviar."
    I think it’s not difficult to guess what the center is doing besides testing tractor-bulldozers, lawn mowers, seeders and gearboxes ...
    1. Yarosvet
      +6
      17 November 2013 17: 30
      Quote: LiSSyara
      In general, the principle is strange. Like, "Steal Tolik and further. Sorry, the" feeder "is smaller, not the RF Ministry of Defense, but there is always enough for a loaf of caviar."
  39. +12
    17 November 2013 10: 23
    With Serdyukov, everything fell into place. The benefactor did not abandon, and Anatole again in business ... Steal and you will be a minister, but you will be a minister - steal! ..

    And in Lithuania there are normal and healthy men with humor. And, by the way, it makes me very happy personally ...

    Goodbye, "Admiral Gorshkov"! .. You would look much better under the St. Andrew's flag in the Pacific Fleet ...

    Libya is confidently sliding down to the "Somali scenario" ... However, this was clear immediately after the overthrow of Gaddafi ...

    And on Kav-Minvody, the policemen are hustling brightly. Checks of documents, inspection of luggage. Teachings ... Preparing for the Olympics ...
  40. +2
    17 November 2013 10: 26
    If you think (purely hypothetically) that Serdyukov really is not to blame, then in this case he can not be placed in a managerial position. This person does not bear any responsibility for the actions of his subordinates. Moreover, the leader is responsible not only for the business qualities of his employees, but and morale in the team. How could the government go for this appointment?
  41. blake
    +10
    17 November 2013 10: 27
    Yes, stop it, Serdyukov did only his work for which he was put there. And apparently, he completed his task, and at the same time he did everything that is needed. And they removed it with a noise so that the military could close their mouths. He got them too much. And now everyone is happy, the girls will be released in December, put a couple of sixes and all in chocolate. And he appointed him the GDP. And all the bumps to Medvedev ... handsome
  42. +4
    17 November 2013 10: 29
    Hand washes a hand ... To chop off these hands ... On a neck. am
  43. +6
    17 November 2013 10: 34
    infuriates how much fanatically believe the botox king, hating his environment ..
    1. -3
      17 November 2013 13: 01
      It may be botoxic, but it does its job well.
  44. +4
    17 November 2013 10: 39
    First, Serdyukov cut dividends from stools, then he was appointed to remove the foam from the country's defense, and now he will remove the "golden scale" from the Russian engineering industry.
    The question is: "DOCOLE" ..?
    When will it be cut down already?
    1. +3
      17 November 2013 11: 11
      Individual, missed the post of head of the Ministry of Taxes and Duties ...
  45. +19
    17 November 2013 10: 44
    According to Serdyukov. It turns out now Serdyukov is a colleague in the corporation. request Our company is also part of Rostec through the Sirius concern. According to rumors, NATI is pleased with the appointment. Before Serdyukov, the center was headed by Academician Gojayev, now he will become the deputy of Storet. They hope that with the appointment of Serdyukov, for example, they will raise their salaries. For example, the salary of the chief engineer is about 40 thousand rubles. Lead-30-35. Test Engineer 25-30k. My colleagues and I have come to the conclusion that this is a "sitz-pound chairman" appointment. Our youth is a troll- "Imagine, Stanislav ... ich! He gets up at 5.00. Sleepy wife Julia prepares sandwiches for him on the road, you need to leave at 6.00 in order not to get stuck in traffic jams and get to work in the village of Novy Byt on time (about 75 km) by 9.00 to work! "
    Anyone who made the decision about such an appointment probably understood all the consequences. Moreover, recent events have occurred less resonant but but in essence even more sad than the appointment of a retired thief to the post of zitz ​​chairman. This is the resignation of Onishchenko,the closure of the Skolkovo case by the Prosecutor General's Office (which no one noticed against the background of the news about Serdyukov), Medvedev’s next crazy ideas like an advance on housing and communal services, Ulyukaev’s predictions that Russia will soon see a furry animal and the opening of a monument to the father of Russian democracy Yegorushka Gaidar by the public. These are disappointing results.
    View the link to the yub tube.
    1. +14
      17 November 2013 15: 45
      yes STANISLAV-bummer
  46. +10
    17 November 2013 10: 47
    About our little Vietnamese friends ...
    By the way, do not forget that this is not only a naval base, but also an airbase capable of receiving heavy aircraft ...
    History
    "The Cam Ranh airbase was built by the Americans in the 1960s to support the bombing of North Vietnam by US aircraft - there was a war in Vietnam. After the Americans left, the Soviet military occupied the airbase, deploying a mixed air regiment of Tu-95 long-range reconnaissance aircraft, Tu-142 anti-submarine missiles, Tu-16 missile carriers. 23 and MiG-XNUMX fighters.With the collapse of the USSR, the regiment was reduced to a squadron, and then it was liquidated.The remaining commandant's office ensured the reception of single aircraft in simple weather conditions.
    On the way to the Malaysian island of Lankavi, which ran through Siberia, China and Vietnam, a failure occurred on the Su-27UB spark and was left in China. Therefore, in Malaysia, the "heroes" flew the "five", which did not stop them from performing with great success.
    On December 12, five Su-27 fighters and the lead IL-76 left home after a triumph at the air show. At the air base of the Pacific Fleet, Camran they had to refuel.
    The naval command reported several times to the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff that the abandoned airbase could not safely receive a group of modern aircraft. However, senior leaders did not heed these warnings. Affected by the favorable location of the airfield on the flight route and the opportunity to save money, since you have to pay for the services of someone else's airbase in foreign currency. "
  47. +7
    17 November 2013 11: 00
    About our old Cuban friends ... The center has repeatedly modernized and played a key role in intercepting information during the Cold War. The capabilities of the center made it possible to intercept data from American communications satellites, terrestrial telecommunication cables, as well as messages from the American NASA flight control center in the nearby US state of Florida, etc. Thus, in 1993, Cuban Defense Minister Raul Castro said that about 75% of the information Russia receives intelligence from the center in Lourdes
    1. +6
      17 November 2013 11: 34
      About our sworn friends.

      The secret services of Israel and Saudi Arabia are working together on plans for a possible attack on Iran if the development of the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program is not suspended as a result of an agreement that could be reached in Tehran’s talks with the Six, The Sunday Times writes.

      According to the newspaper, the governments of Saudi Arabia and Israel are convinced that the international negotiations in Geneva are more like a policy of appeasing Iran.

      Riyadh even allegedly allowed Israel to use its airspace in the event Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu decides on a military operation.

      “Saudi Arabia is ready to provide Israel with any assistance that may be needed,” an unnamed diplomatic source told the newspaper.
      Two old enemies team up against Tehran

      MOSCOW, Nov 17 - RIA Novosti. The CIA and the Pentagon are trying to persuade the US Department of State not to issue Roscosmos permission to build several GLONASS measuring stations on American territory because of concerns that they might be used for military purposes, writes the New York Times .. According to the U.S. military and intelligence, with permission to create GLONASS stations, Russia will receive a bridgehead on American territory, which significantly increase the accuracy of Russian guided missiles. Russia sent a request to the United States for the construction of GLONASS stations in May 2012.
      link
  48. +16
    17 November 2013 11: 11
    THERE is an interesting photo-toad on SERDYUKOV.
    1. +22
      17 November 2013 12: 14
      Here is a funny song about Serdyukov

      1. Hudo
        +8
        17 November 2013 12: 19
        Quote: Ascetic
        Here is a funny song about Serdyukov

        Laughter through tears.
        1. +10
          17 November 2013 12: 30
          Quote: Hudo
          Laughter through tears.


          An hour later on NTV Brewers in the film Egor Gaidar: The death of the empire together with Chubais, Aven and Koch will tell us that they prevented a civil war in Russia and saved the country from death. And now there is one thief, corruption and nepotism. Involuntarily many wonder? But it’s true. Vaughn and Serdyukov returned, Just the filmmaker on time ..
          Here is a laugh through tears ..
          1. +6
            17 November 2013 12: 54
            we already had a similar transfer today."Gaidar saved the country from hunger and decay"
          2. +8
            17 November 2013 14: 36
            Ascetic
            Yeah ... what a laugh there is a dreary rage, aggravated by the realization of its powerlessness .... indeed, from censored expressions - one bark ....
            1. +4
              17 November 2013 16: 52
              Quote: smile
              Yeah ... what a laugh there is a dreary rage, aggravated by the realization of its powerlessness

              Here in this I unconditionally agree with you. One mate, and the desire to get drunk.
      2. +5
        17 November 2013 12: 41
        Ascetic! Could put 10 - set! Respect! I cried!
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  49. +4
    17 November 2013 11: 13
    Quote: Anatole Klim
    Quote: andyandy111
    such a mockery of law-abiding Russians.

    My old mother, having learned the news "about Serdyukov," asked me when the next elections were.
    I asked why she needed this, because I didn’t go to the past.
    -Now, I’ll go! let him know that I am against!
    But she is a very patient person, she has changed seven places of service with her father: the Far East, the Far North, the Caucasus, Belarus, and now her patience has come to an end.
  50. +3
    17 November 2013 11: 16
    good news about Serbia, from the time of EBN a sense of shame and inferiority. this should not happen again.
  51. +10
    17 November 2013 11: 16
    Thanks for the great review!
    Well, a few phrases from politicians that made me laugh.
    Head of PACE: Mr. Yanukovych is a wise man and a good President

    Okay, looks like we sat down with VFYa

    The third President of Ukraine, Viktor Yushchenko, noted that he is ready to roll up his sleeves and enter into battle when he hears bad things about Ukraine.

    But there is no fighting. Everyone agrees that Ukraine is in... (followed by chants, grumbles and obscenities)

    Anna German:
    Answering the question whether she is then ready to leave politics if the agreement is not signed, German said: “You can’t leave your country when it’s hard. I’ve never valued my place in politics, especially since I didn’t rush there, my life pushed me exactly there."

    Why won't she push you out of there now?

    German said: “The President of Ukraine has never publicly announced another direction of integration. Of course, we would be an unwise government if we did not try to balance

    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-131372.html

    Oh, well, yes, well, yes. WE are Hanna Herman, by the grace of God...

    Yuri Boyko accused Bulgaria, and at the same time Slovakia, of participating in the construction of the Russian South Stream gas pipeline, which bypasses our state. And this, Yuriy Boyko believes, violates the rules of the European Energy Community and is a direct threat to our (Ukrainian) national interests.


    Hold on, brothers Slavs! It is no longer only Russia that is “to blame” for everything, but also Bulgaria, Slovakia...who else do we have left who could be considered an enemy?
    hi hi hi
  52. +1
    17 November 2013 11: 18
    But patience is really coming to an end. “Bolotniki”, the blatherings of the gays about the violation of their rights - there is nothing but laughter. It will be scary when the usually dormant RUSSIAN MAN rises up. (this is a continuation of the Serdyukov theme).
  53. +6
    17 November 2013 11: 23
    Salad bar in the soldiers' canteen? belay Yes, we weren’t fed that way... And as for Anatoly Eduardovich... well, you can’t throw away effective managers - there’s still a lot that needs to be ruined. I wouldn’t be surprised if he soon heads the Federal Agency for Reform of the Russian Academy of Sciences angry
    1. +13
      17 November 2013 11: 38
      To the topic Citizens, this is abuse

      Until it takes root in society principle of inevitability of punishment, society will produce new Serdyukovs and the old Serdyukovs will be free. For now, society is dominated by the principle of life according to concepts.
      Thanks to the authors hi for the results of the week. drinks
      1. +5
        17 November 2013 12: 43
        Quote: Apollon
        The Serdyukovs will be free. For now, the principle of living according to concepts dominates in society.
      2. +6
        17 November 2013 14: 45
        Apollo
        Hello.
        I would correct you a little - it’s not to create a society - even absolutely positive young people, getting into the system, will break off and be raised by such Serdyukovs in their own image and likeness... a generation of thieves will educate the younger generation. Just like the perestroikas and those who came into the system in the nineties raised the current ones.....and this is even worse than the theft itself - this is the formation of an appropriate psychology in those who will replace the current ones...
        1. +4
          17 November 2013 15: 45
          Quote: smile
          Apollo
          Hello.

          Good afternoon, Vladimir hi
          Quote: smile
          I would correct you a little - not to create society

          In my previous post, I didn’t make a reservation at all, instead of the word society I could have written “the state produces fruit,” let’s first figure out which of the concepts is broader, of course, society, which includes such concepts as the state, organizations and citizens. And if so, let’s imagine for a second .that not millions, but let’s say hundreds of thousands of people would come out to march for Serdyukov’s imprisonment, what do you think the authorities would do?!
          I assure you 100%, the authorities would have put him behind bars long ago. IMHO!
          1. +2
            17 November 2013 17: 03
            Apollo
            Well, I’m not going to object to you here... but... you know that nowhere do people take to the streets on their own. This means that if it comes out, it will be organized. And who organizes it?
            In principle, if demonstrations were organized by our official Duma opposition, it would be nice... but firstly, they don’t want to do this, for various reasons, and secondly, the crowd, as practice proves, will instantly be taken over by swamps, with their inherent them with slogans and goals that certainly cannot benefit Russia in any way....

            Therefore, I feel ambivalent...I don’t even know what’s better...after all, Serdyukov’s case has acquired a fundamental character.
            Moreover, the funniest thing is that the government itself was the first to raise hell about him and allowed the corresponding information leaks... and now... God kill me, I don’t understand such gestures.
            It can be assumed that by overthrowing Serdyukov, the country’s leadership showed one of their colleagues that there are no untouchables, and then, showing strength, putting him in his place, calmly reconciled with those who stand behind Serdyukov (I think it’s no secret to anyone that in any Every government has various rival factions.
            But then it is not clear what the leadership expected from the country, first agitating it, outraged it to the limit, and then cynically showing its figs? A rather expensive price to pay for internal squabbles is to offend the entire population.

            In general, remember - in “Ivan Vasilyevich changes his profession” - ... old lady, I’m sad. :)))..I'm really sad. After all, you don’t have to be an analytical genius to calculate what kind of mood such cynicism will evoke in society.... the swamp people could not even dream of such a gift...
            1. +3
              17 November 2013 17: 08
              Everyone knows that the Russians can only be defeated from within, and it’s also not difficult to calculate the mood of the people, that’s what they play on
              1. 0
                17 November 2013 17: 24
                ivshubarin
                That's right, everyone knows. What is our leadership thinking about in the episode with Serdyukov? And, most importantly, what? It’s not clear to me.
                1. +1
                  17 November 2013 17: 37
                  He also thinks about immigrants, housing and communal services, interethnic squabbles, pensions.
          2. 0
            18 November 2013 18: 30
            Quote: Apollon
            ...let's first figure out which of the concepts is broader...
            Everything here depends on the conceptual apparatus of which “science” is used. These concepts are in a relationship of subordination according to logical connections, if we bear in mind the specific needs of the individual, society and state, which ideally should be “balanced”. That is, if this characteristic is present - differing needs, each of these concepts cannot be included in the scope of the other - they should be separated. From the perspective of another science, the state is generally a “means of protecting interests...”, but at the same time, the state, society and the individual are also subjects of the “legal field”, which also implies a difference between these concepts, since each “subject” is a carrier specific needs and goals determined by these needs.

            Quote: Apollon
            And if that’s the case, let’s imagine for a second that not millions, but let’s say hundreds of thousands of people would come out to march for Serdyukov’s imprisonment, what do you think the authorities would do?!

            Of course, you can imagine, but the trouble is that this can only happen in a revolutionary situation (and this is the concept of another “science”) or, since revolutions are not made to order (only revolutions are made to order), a situation of a revolution.
    2. +3
      17 November 2013 12: 30
      Quote: dart_noos
      Salad bar in the soldiers' canteen?

      Don't worry so much! This is all a prop for filming a feature documentary film for viewing in the Kremlin and showing to foreign guests! wink
  54. -24
    17 November 2013 11: 29
    I would like to ask fans of Serdyukov’s theme. Why, you are so smart, honest, you are hanging out here, and not sitting in his place. Any of you would love to, the other would grab it if there was a ball. As they say, the louder one screams, the one who craps himself.)))))))))))
    1. +5
      17 November 2013 13: 03
      Quote: mivmim
      Any of you would love to, the other would grab it if there was a ball. As they say, the louder one screams, the one who craps himself.


      Are you by any chance Koreiko? Can you share?

    2. +1
      17 November 2013 14: 51
      mivmim
      I am not a supporter of those. who screams, “down with Putin.” and believes that Russia will be blessed if the “regime” is overthrown (yeah, and the swamps will break through to the feeding trough).
      But, accusing all fans of the Serdyukov theme that they are all potential thieves. you become like those who shout. that there are only swindlers in power. Only the vector is different. You can not do it this way.

      I didn’t give you a minus, but there’s nothing to support you for. Sorry.
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  55. Crrusader40
    +16
    17 November 2013 11: 33
    You just need to take it and...
    1. Chervonets
      +4
      17 November 2013 12: 37
      In public. Yes, on Red Square. At the Kremlin wall.
    2. +3
      17 November 2013 13: 14
      The way the authors of this demo associate Stalin and executions is not entirely on topic. Where you took it from, he is considered an executioner. The mistake in the word shoot is not accidental
      1. +3
        17 November 2013 14: 54
        Hleb
        Support.
        The guys forgot that in May 47 the death penalty was abolished in the USSR.
        And listen to them. So Stalin did nothing but chop off heads left and right day and night.
        Amazing solidarity with the howls of the swamp truth-seekers and other Svinidze fans.
        1. +4
          17 November 2013 14: 58
          Stalin was initially against the death penalty, those who were later shot were in favor of execution
          1. +2
            18 November 2013 18: 45
            Quote: ivshubarin
            Stalin was initially against the death penalty, those who were later shot were in favor of execution
            It’s been stated somewhat simplified, but most here are not masters of prose and verse, I think. I agree that at that time, when the price of human life was a pittance, Stalin was distinguished by his humanity. With his talent, he managed to use the organizational abilities of even obvious enemies for the good of the country, understanding and saying that he had no “other ministers.” This is what Catherine the Great knew how to do. But, for the time being, until the threat from their actions became unacceptable.
  56. +5
    17 November 2013 11: 34
    It’s very unpleasant about Serdyukov.
  57. ale49267969
    +6
    17 November 2013 11: 36
    A thief should sit in jail! That says it all!
  58. 0
    17 November 2013 11: 41
    Quote: mivmim
    I would like to ask fans of Serdyukov’s theme. Why, you are so smart, honest, you are hanging out here, and not sitting in his place. Any of you would love to, the other would grab it if there was a ball. As they say, the louder one screams, the one who craps himself.)))))))))))
  59. +10
    17 November 2013 11: 49
    It was stated above that the boss is not responsible for the actions of his subordinates. Then we look at the Charter of the Armed Forces.
    “44. The commander (chief) is responsible for the given order (order) and its consequences, for the compliance of the contents of the order (order) with the requirements of Article 41 of this Charter and for failure to take measures to ensure its implementation.
    Only the commander (chief) who issued it, or a superior direct superior, has the right to cancel an order (command).
    I doubt that the property was sold without the knowledge of the Minister of Defense. Although I understand that bricks will now fly at me shouting “they’re civilians”...
    Well, for the soul, kuno...
    1. +1
      17 November 2013 12: 06
      ok!laughed
  60. +7
    17 November 2013 11: 56
    Dear mivmim, advice - never judge others by yourself. I had and still have many opportunities to grab, as you put it, “a yam or two,” but I will never allow myself this, because I consider myself a real RUSSIAN MAN who, unlike you, respects himself.
  61. Cottager13
    +1
    17 November 2013 11: 58
    A traitor is far from a thief...
  62. +1
    17 November 2013 11: 59
    After such feints, you begin to understand terrorists sad no one has a warhead worth a couple of megatons lying around in their garage? It is clear that we cannot expect justice, but the greyhound is off the charts.
    ps Why did this re-register me to the European Union?
    1. +7
      17 November 2013 12: 02
      The results of the week will not be complete without touching on the following news.
      1. Hudo
        +5
        17 November 2013 12: 13
        Expelled from UNESCO? Nothing surprising. UNESCO (UNESCO - The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) - United Nations Organization for Education, science and culture. There is definitely no education, let alone culture there - therefore, it’s not like Juan’s sombrero, let them find something simpler for themselves.
        1. +3
          17 November 2013 15: 05
          Hudo
          And for me it’s amazing...what kind of sombreron is it? It’s time to put on a muzzle for Juan, and not to deprive him of a headdress.
          But just recently there was simply no one to do this... and here, it seems, the United States is really losing the reins to a large extent even in international organizations... a good signal. :)))
  63. +12
    17 November 2013 12: 06
    big omission of the government
    1 force Russian residents to pay for gas that is in storage
    2 buy back gas that is still in the ground
    3 introduce an air tax for pensioners, stop breathing for free
    VV Putin urgently needs to amend the criminal code: for a successful fight against corruption
    1 theft from 1 ruble to 10 rubles 000 years in prison
    2 theft from 10000 rubles to 10 rubles - 000000 years probation
    3 theft from 10 rubles to 000000 billion - house arrest (with visits to spa salons, shops + provision of a housekeeper and security)
    4 theft of 3 billion and above, provision of the position of general director in a state corporation.
  64. +5
    17 November 2013 12: 20
    Is it really not clear that Serdyukov is the chairman, such things are not done by the forces of thieving scoundrels, and it’s a pity to leak him (Serdyukov) to the owner, firstly, but what about the notorious - the GDP does not hand over its own!
    secondly, it may be useful for something else, thirdly, well, maybe purely humanly, I got used to it, got attached, so to speak, over the years of joint affairs
  65. +3
    17 November 2013 12: 22
    Yeah... with Seryukov this is a very strange move. The authorities simply do not have the right to lose their authority in this way! Someone else will lose quite a few points in their ranking - that's for sure!!!
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  67. +4
    17 November 2013 12: 28
    I’m shocked by the latest news about the appointment of Serdyukov, and about Medvedev with his prepayment for housing and communal services, I’m just disappointed. Then what’s the point of going to the polls at all?
    1. +3
      17 November 2013 12: 32
      Quote: Vanya2013F
      and about Medvedev with his prepayment for housing and communal services
      Now we just need to develop this “initiative” of his - “You give salaries a MONTH EARLIER...”
    2. +4
      17 November 2013 12: 37
      Quote: Vanya2013F
      Then what's the point of going to the polls at all?

      Be sure to go! AND SPOIL THE BALLOTS! Then the elections “took place” - the turnout was recorded, and it will be clear that NO ONE got the required number of votes. And do this until a WORTHY one appears!
      1. Hudo
        +2
        17 November 2013 12: 48
        Quote: Egoza
        Be sure to go! AND SPOIL THE BALLOTS! Then the elections “took place” - the turnout was recorded


        It is possible and so, only the Central Election Commission of Ukraine reports that the number of voters (about 37 million) somehow miraculously has not decreased and has not decreased for more than 10 years, the people are dying and dying, cemeteries are growing and are growing, but the number of voters is not decreasing and that’s it! True, the asshole MP-Eurointegrator Seryoga Sobolev, having spilled the beans on the 14th of this month on the live broadcast of radio "Era-FM" about 22 million voters, he somewhat brought clarity to this mysterious issue. With a resource of 15 million ballots for fraud, you can not only spoil the ballot, but also spit in the ballot box as a sign of protest... with a zero result, of course.
  68. 0
    17 November 2013 12: 31
    Quote: anomalocaris
    Where to get angry?

    The people in Russia are very patient..Serdyuk is being treated like a red rag..Something is not clean here..(nobody stupidly wants to run like sheep to this rag...))) We have to wait and think..(Who benefits and what is the goal.. )And then cut with checkers... angry
    1. +5
      17 November 2013 12: 38
      What is the purpose, Serdyuk abandoned Vasilyeva and returned to the family, so Father-in-law finds a job.
    2. +12
      17 November 2013 12: 40
      I would ask the authors to summarize the results of the week, by the end of the year, to prepare an article on the results of the outgoing year. It would be great, that would sum up the results. In the meantime, Mikhail Zadornov’s speech essentially sums up everything that has been happening in society lately.
      1. +2
        17 November 2013 13: 17
        Apollon is spot on as always:
        I would ask the authors to summarize the results of the week, by the end of the year, to prepare an article on the results of the outgoing year. It would be great, that would sum up the results. In the meantime, Mikhail Zadornov’s speech essentially sums up everything that has been happening in society lately.
        And also the “golden” language of the forum..))) With voting...And another cool thing forum users in pictures.. I mean this sincerely..! Humor will save the world and our forum! fellow
      2. +2
        17 November 2013 13: 32
        not well, humor is humor. But I played the video and from the first minutes it is annoying. Wasn’t Noah a Jew? He doesn’t understand why the Olympics are held in Sochi at an average temperature of + 15 in Sochi? Although at the foot of the mountains it will already be 0. Although the palace has artificial ice .you can only dream about such a unique climate. He’s blatantly lying about the deadlines. Like he once lied about the word “Russians” being an adjective. I didn’t look further, but there’s probably the same nonsense
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    4. Sharp
      +2
      17 November 2013 13: 03
      Meehan. I recommend studying the book by M. N. Poltoranin
      "Power in TNT equivalent. The legacy of Tsar Boris."
      Maybe you'll understand something.
      PS There, everything is written and everything is predicted about your idol Putin. Your position reminds me of the beginning of 1941. The Germans have invaded, we are surrounded, and some are shouting: “This is a provocation, don’t open fire!”
      1. +6
        17 November 2013 13: 35
        Smart guy, calm down! I’m not a fan of Putin..I’m just for Russia..! If there’s something against Russia, I’m against it..! and that’s all ..And individuals in Russia are a relative concept....My credo is WHO IS AGAINST RUSSIA (AS SUCH) IS MY ENEMY..This comes from consciousness..(I have a family of children..) and I don’t care about all the theories and practices...I have lived and will live in Russia!
        1. Sharp
          +4
          17 November 2013 14: 11
          No, read the book anyway. Poltoranin M.N. knows a lot. He is a courageous man and by writing such a book he is putting his life at great risk. It is truthfully written about the murder of Lev Yakovlevich Rokhlin.
          1. +3
            17 November 2013 14: 53
            I’ll read it, although I’ve already read a lot of such books... they have the same meaning... TROUBLES IN RUSSIA! again blood plunder and laughter of the West of Jews and Islamists. friendly.. They are all pushing us towards this and modestly.. Enough!
            1. 0
              18 November 2013 19: 13
              Quote: MIKHAN
              ...I’ve already read a lot of books like this..They all humbly push us towards this..Enough!

              It’s not true, firstly, these books do not push people into revolution; there is no revolutionary situation in Russia now. Secondly, you didn’t explicitly read them. The purpose of these books is to provide first-person knowledge of the events of recent years. Knowledge is power and, “truth is power,” and you yourself decide whether it’s true or not and whether you have trust in the author, whether you can catch him in lies and manipulation. And when there is no knowledge, then there is nothing to discuss, since issues of faith are not discussed.
  69. +9
    17 November 2013 12: 39
    thank you for the interesting review, no doubt + Serdyukov’s fingers are already hurting, but I still want to swear hi
  70. +4
    17 November 2013 12: 45
    Quote: "One gets the impression that Prime Minister Medvedev has taken the path of complete political sadomasochism."
    One gets the impression that our government lives its own life, and the Russian people live theirs. For what reason should I pay for housing and communal services that were not provided to me? Who came up with this nonsense? Becomes alive "better", life becomes "more fun."..
  71. +2
    17 November 2013 12: 45
    Many thanks to the authors!
    Dmitry Anatolyevich decided to become even more concerned about the fate of citizens and put forward the idea that we would have to pay for utilities not upon the fact of their provision, but a month in advance...

    The idea is really enchanting. How can I find out how much utilities I will need next month? what As I understand it, this is a completely non-trivial task... Scientific research needs to be carried out here...
    1. +5
      17 November 2013 12: 57
      Quote: retired
      How can I find out how much utilities I will need next month?

      Yuri! Don't fill your brains with all sorts of nonsense! Let's better remember OLD SONGS ABOUT THE MAIN THING! How's the start? "Hostile whirlwinds are blowing over us..." fellow
      1. +2
        17 November 2013 13: 33
        Quote: Egoza
        "Hostile whirlwinds blow over us ..."

        Those. It's time to dig up my grandfather's Mauser, or what? what Well, here in Ukraine you can dig up something more serious...When do we start Lenochka? The main thing is that it doesn’t work out separately Yes
    2. +1
      17 November 2013 13: 10
      There will most likely be some percentage there. There is a living area of ​​the premises. There are tariffs for maintenance, water, heating, heating, the number of registered ones. This is why they will dance. This is not a fact yet, but nothing surprising. For example, for TV, telephone and internet we pay with an advance payment of about 20%
  72. Asan Ata
    +1
    17 November 2013 12: 46
    People, who knows who Putin is married to?
    1. +1
      17 November 2013 12: 51
      He hasn't gotten divorced yet
    2. 0
      17 November 2013 14: 11
      People, who knows who Putin is married to?..In Russia..and if he betrays him on a rope...he will be married. We do it quickly..!(he knows if he signed up..)!
      1. +1
        18 November 2013 19: 24
        Quote: MIKHAN
        We do it quickly..!(he knows if he signed up..)!
        He knows he didn't sign, but you don't. With his first decree back in 2000, he legitimized the mafia state in Russia, removing all types (including criminal) liability for past and future sins from the EBN and members of his family and, from himself, the beloved Federal Law of similar content. So, it turns out that the position of the President is the most irresponsible so far. And, we now have something that has us comprehensively and fully and will have it for an unpredictably long time.
        Source: Putin. The truth that is better not to know / Viktor Ilyukhin - M.: Algorithm, 2011.- 240 p.
    3. Yarosvet
      -5
      17 November 2013 17: 49
      Quote: Asan Ata
      People, who knows who Putin is married to?

      Well, purely hypothetically... laughing
  73. +9
    17 November 2013 12: 54
    starhina01
    Serdyukov's fingers already hurt

    It’s like in the old joke about two deaf and dumb people: hello to the first and second (on the fingers)! the second one doesn’t answer. The first one shows again - Hello! The second one doesn't answer. First - Why are you silent? The second one moved his fingers with force: I can’t speak, my fingers don’t bend, the boys and I were screaming songs all night.
  74. +2
    17 November 2013 12: 54
    Yes, the appointment of Serdyukov is certainly too much. To put it mildly. And perhaps worse than this fact is that the president remained silent on this matter. It seems to me that Putin has lost his sense of reality and is sawing the branch on which he sits. And this bitch is the support of the people, albeit mostly silent. But it is precisely this support that has allowed the last ten years, at the very least, to develop and resist the large-scale and planned actions of all sorts of liberals to collapse the country.
    They forgave him for the leapfrog between the presidents and DAM, because they knew “with all the wealth of choice” there was no one to choose from. I don’t even want to think about how events will develop further. And what trump card did he give to all the Judaizing scum like Albats and others like that? I feel sorry for the country.
    1. +1
      17 November 2013 13: 31
      Quote: Gronsky
      And perhaps worse than this fact is that the president remained silent on this matter.

      Well, would a criminal case against Serdyukov be opened without Putin? And who? A team of “honest law enforcement officers”?
      Any adult understands that a criminal case in Russia will never be initiated against an official without the command of a larger official.
      It is clear that it was Putin (and not someone else) who gave the go-ahead to the “oboronservis” matter. And it was he who gave the TV command to wash out Serdyukov’s bones. This is so obvious that it’s somehow awkward to talk about it to adults.
      And the “broad masses” will learn about this matter exactly as much as Putin orders. And not an ounce more.
      Nevertheless, I never cease to be amazed at the abundance of clowns (I talked to one here on the forum yesterday) who reproach Putin for covering up for Serdyukov. Yes, if Putin wanted it, then there would be no “oboronservis” business. And no one would know anything. And if this case is closed, it will also only be on Putin’s command. If you want, you open a case, if you want, you close it, that’s our reality.
      Yesterday’s interlocutor said that he was, like, giving information “for normal law enforcement officers.” It is immediately clear that the boy has never seen anything in his life other than a school desk. Because only a child thinks that “law enforcement officers” will open a case against an official without a command from above.
      I will say to all gentlemen “whistleblowers and anti-corruption officials”:
      Putin, through his investigators and TV announcers, ordered you to believe that Serdyukov is a thief. You took it up a notch. And now he will order you to believe the opposite. So get ready to carry out this order too. And you don’t know anything about Serdyukov beyond what Putin allowed you to know. And stop venting here - like I caught Serdyukov red-handed, and Putin is letting him go. It's not even funny to read this.
      1. Sharp
        +3
        17 November 2013 14: 05
        What do you say to this?

        Security forces were banned from “singing songs” about Serdyukov and comrades
        07.11.2013/166916850/XNUMXAndy TuckerXNUMX
        Tags: corruption, media, Anatoly Serdyukov, administration, power, defense service

        The Russian presidential administration has instructed law enforcement agencies to stop information campaigns surrounding corruption cases that may not make it to court. Thus, investigators may lose the opportunity to publicly stigmatize participants in recent high-profile corruption scandals.
        This position was stated by officials during a meeting with representatives of the security bloc as part of a meeting in the Kremlin, RBC reports, citing publications in the Russian press. In particular, the presidential administration noted that scandals promoted in the media create a negative image of the government. According to the newspaper, we are talking about scandals related to Oboronservis, Rosagroleasing, Kirovles, and the mayor of Yaroslavl, Yevgeny Urlashov.
        “Until high-profile corruption cases are brought to court, they should not be so zealously covered in the media. No one has been punished yet, investigative actions are ongoing, and the common person already has the impression of impunity for criminals and the impotence of law enforcement agencies. We need to change course, move away from liberalization and politicization of criminal cases. If you break the law, answer, and law enforcement agencies should work and not promote themselves," a Kremlin source explained.
        Another source noted that security forces should not conduct criminal cases “live.” Now there is a strict taboo on covering scandals involving high-ranking officials.
        1. +1
          17 November 2013 14: 16
          Quote: Quick-witted
          Now there is a strict taboo on covering scandals involving high-ranking officials.

          All this is deceit. Both “lighting” and “darkening” commands are given from the same source. None of the security forces will “promote themselves” unless ordered to do so. Anyone who wears shoulder straps will understand my words.
          First there was a command to stir up a scandal, and now a command of a different kind.
          I'm sick and tired of this nonsense: "the people exposed Serdyukov and his gang, and the damned Putin is covering for him!!!" People actually know only as much as they are allowed to know.
          The showdown between Putin and Medvedev is behind the “oboronservis” case. Putin is pushing aside key ministers whom he did not appoint. It is clear that Serdyukov stole. But hardly more or less than any other minister. In Russia, people steal only to the best of their ability, and not to the best of their conscience. Everyone has approximately the same conscience. Everyone is honest, but video surveillance is turned on everywhere. And everyone “doesn’t give up their own”; that’s not how we do things. And all thieves hide behind the proverb “the fish rots from the head” like armor; it completely replaces conscience for our people. Like, I’m white and fluffy, but I break the law because “the system is to blame.”
          1. Sharp
            +1
            17 November 2013 15: 00
            Quote: Sour
            Both “lighting” and “darkening” commands are given from the same source. None of the security forces will “promote themselves” unless ordered to do so. Anyone who wears shoulder straps will understand my words.

            But I didn’t understand. The simple thought that there is a war of clans does not occur to you. At some stage the clans clashed. The situation is out of Putin's control. And now Putin has released everything on the brakes. Remember the confiscation of money in Cyprus, from oligarchs who support Orthodoxy. This was also an answer for Serdyukov. In the depths of Putin’s team there are certainly people who work for the country and the army. But they have so far lost the battle with Serdyukov. I wrote “for now” because Serdyukov still has a path either to prison or to the grave.
      2. +12
        17 November 2013 14: 44
        Quote: Sour
        Nevertheless, I never cease to be amazed at the abundance of clowns (I talked to one here on the forum yesterday) who reproach Putin for covering up for Serdyukov. Yes, if Putin wanted it, then there would be no “oboronservis” business. And no one would know anything. And if this case is closed, it will also only be on Putin’s command. If you want, you open a case, if you want, you close it, that’s our reality.


        Wouldn’t it be easier to turn to Putin himself? He said it more clearly last year

        «Neither the investigation nor the court, much less, made any claims against Serdyukov personally. This is a common civilizational practice: a person is considered innocent until the court determines his guilt. Regarding the fact that he works in some capacity, for example, as an adviser at Russian Technologies, it is incorrect. He while doesn't work anywhere. But, if he wants to find a job somewhere, he will take, I don't think we should interfere. A person has the right to work. We are not the 37th year»


        Let's take it apart piece by piece.
        1. At the investigation and trial no complaintsdid not present. A competent apparatchik will understand the message correctly, since it was not presented right away, then it is prohibited to present it. But if the phrase had not yet been presented, then it is clearly clear that the matter needs to be pursued to the extreme.
        2. Doesn't work anywhere yet. The key word here is also YET. That is, permission has been given that he can work even while under investigation, because the message of point one states that he will have nothing to show.
        3. If he WANTS, he WILL be taken. It’s also a direct hint, like an indication - a word will be given, and not if they take it. That is, there is no choice but to take it. So Putin immediately described the whole situation clearly and clearly. And without hiding it from anyone. The essence of his statement. They won’t find anything against Serdyukov, and until the dust (the investigation) settles, he will sit out in an insignificant position. And here, a year later, it turns out that everyone was spat in the soul by allegedly not imprisoning Serdyukov. This is the level of influence of the media and the psychosis it inflates. They even accept bets on whether they will be imprisoned or not. Now mayors and corrupt officials are being arrested in batches, no one is interested because the media is not promoting it. But the imprisonment of Serdyukov, about whom it was clearly stated a year ago that he WOULD NOT PLACE A PLAN, is causing a wave of indignation.
        We need to ask Putin two questions
        1. why doesn’t he dare to imprison Serdyukov? Why was it necessary to conduct a powerful campaign in the media, make films against Serdyukov and his girlfriends, and sell his “image” as the country’s main corrupt official.
        2. Why was it necessary to “attach” Serdyukov, realizing that this would cause an even greater negative reaction from society than the refusal to prosecute him?
        Imagine that you are the head of an enterprise or company and you have a rat manager in your management apparatus, you naturally fire him and hand him over to justice, and then suddenly forgive him and appoint him back to the company to a less significant position. With this situation, many honest workers will think about changing jobs. But in this case, we can’t change the country and run away, and many will think about trusting such a “director” when going to the polls.
        This means that the leader is either a complete idiot and a slammer, or the reasons are much more serious than image losses of power.
        1. +1
          17 November 2013 21: 38
          Quote: Ascetic
          Why doesn’t he dare to imprison Serdyukov?

          I am also tormented by this issue.
          The only thing that saves is the parallel with Stalin.
          He is presented to us as an all-powerful dictator who had full power and did what he wanted. However, if you carefully read the memoirs of those who came to him and were fairly objective, it turns out that he did not reign at all, but spent his whole life balancing between different power clans. And when he really wanted to show his will, they tied his hands behind his back and forced a mouthful of rat poison into his mouth.
          It is clearly seen that Putin is no different from Stalin than he is from Alpha Centauri. This is irrefutably evidenced by the unsinkability of Chubais.
          But what it really is, we may never know.
          In any case, I think there is no need to panic and hysteria, much less give up and walk away from the fight. We must try in any case to fight for the country calmly and prudently.
      3. +3
        17 November 2013 14: 55
        Quote: Sour
        It is clear to any adult that a criminal case in Russia will never be initiated against an official without the command of a larger official.
        It is clear that it was Putin (and not someone else) who gave the go-ahead to the “oboronservis” matter


        To argue with this would be naive to say the least.
        The more ridiculous everything that is happening looks. It turns out that he himself gave the go-ahead to develop the case, he himself contributed, to put it mildly, to the deterioration of his reputation, and he himself gave his blessing for a new appointment. Putting your own reputation at risk. This begs the conclusion: is it in himself?
        Or is everything so complicated that we mere mortals can only blindly believe in the best?
      4. +1
        17 November 2013 15: 15
        Sour
        I agree unconditionally and support it with my hands and feet...:))) Excellent comment.
  75. +1
    17 November 2013 13: 07
    Well, if the thieves from the swamp society were never imprisoned, then the former minister will certainly not be imprisoned, all that awaits him is a suspended sentence with compensation for the damage he caused, of course. And Putin is not involved in the appointment of Serdyuk, I don’t think that he would take such a step, because the opposition is just waiting for this, and why would Putin give them such gifts.
  76. +5
    17 November 2013 13: 19
    The saying “A thief should be in prison” is now pronounced with the addition “Thief may differ from thief”
  77. +2
    17 November 2013 13: 31
    Yeah. What can you say about Perdyukov? You should take one famous book by Chernyshevsky and re-read it, I advise everyone.
  78. Vlad_Mir
    +1
    17 November 2013 13: 33
    The aircraft carrier was sold in vain. A beautiful ship, and in the current situation it would definitely come in handy!
    1. Sharp
      +3
      17 November 2013 13: 43
      I completely agree with you. The aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Gorshkov" was our pride. These thieves, like Serdyukov, will still steal the money. When will we build such a ship again?
    2. +1
      17 November 2013 14: 38
      We built an aircraft carrier..! For India (and they didn’t sell it for metal) He has a Russian soul... We know how to build and that’s the most important thing!! The main thing for Russia now is the nuclear submarine! And we’ll build Aircraft Carriers and fly them to the shores of the United States... and we’ll dance “Kalinka Malinka”... with balalaika bears... Just like the Americans love...))) bully
      1. +1
        17 November 2013 14: 50
        Well, not quite built, they carried out a deep modernization of the cruiser "Baku"
  79. +2
    17 November 2013 13: 45
    Sniper! Here is our answer to Serdyukov.
    1. +5
      17 November 2013 15: 14
      The sniper missed Chubais, so an RPG is better
  80. slon133
    +1
    17 November 2013 14: 11
    Well, a sniper certainly wouldn't hurt.
    But in reality we don’t vote for PU anymore.
    Au Levada Center, how is our GUARANTOR rating?
    1. +1
      17 November 2013 15: 19
      slon133
      Strange. that someone else believes the ratings of the Levada Center - it’s hard to find more deceitful ones... or do you still not know who finances them? Then immediately ask Novodvorskaya about the ratings - she will tell you the most honest truth. :)))
  81. taroverdov
    +2
    17 November 2013 14: 14
    Quote: Apollon
    I would ask the authors to summarize the results of the week, by the end of the year, to prepare an article on the results of the outgoing year. It would be great, that would sum up the results. In the meantime, Mikhail Zadornov’s speech essentially sums up everything that has been happening in society lately.
  82. +2
    17 November 2013 14: 14
    Quote: Captain Vrungel
    Dimon is a member of the "family". Who from the family takes out garbage to the masses? They will cheat, punish in a close family circle. According to Zhiglov, "A thief should be in prison." But who will put him in prison if the "family" is in the Kremlin.

    All year the authority of the head of state within the country was strengthened - and one such episode destroyed it instantly. The question is: either the president is truly powerless - or political blindness for the sake of the system. The question is not as simple as it seems...
  83. +2
    17 November 2013 14: 18
    Quote: slon133
    Well, a sniper certainly wouldn't hurt.
    But in reality we don’t vote for PU anymore.
    Au Levada Center, how is our GUARANTOR rating?

    Levada’s rating is off the charts. “For Putin...” he he he PR company however..)))
  84. +1
    17 November 2013 14: 37
    I wonder what needs to happen for the ordinary, cunning and unprincipled... to stop being called an “effective manager”?
    Against the backdrop of world events, we are simply in trouble, and the leaders...

    For sports:
    - Serdyukova for soap.....!!!!
  85. +2
    17 November 2013 14: 40
    Where the wind blows, there the smoke carries, the people know little, they think primitively and therefore cannot understand and see the main wave of what is happening in power, they see only the ripples on the water driven by the wind, hence the inconstancy, in principle it has always been like this at all times. Building a strong state is a difficult task, especially in conditions of imposed democracy and free opposition from external and internal destructive forces. You can’t do it alone, who can you rely on? To a fickle people driven by the winds of the media? You need your own, proven and devoted people, and loyalty is much more important than professionalism. And this path is thorny and tortuous, where the actions of the authorities are often contradictory in nature, this was the case under Ivan the Terrible and Peter the Great, this was also the case under Stalin, although it was much easier for them than in modern times, the uncontrolled rampant media and the fundamental laws of human relations in society says that the basic principles are unchanged, only the methods are forced to improve. What were Serdyukov’s tasks in the Moscow Region? Do the dirty work and kill two birds with one stone, on the one hand, demolish the old stuff and trim off the dried branches, thereby reducing the load on the defense budget, redirecting funds to where it is really needed and will contribute to a greater extent to the development of the country's defense capability... Something needs to be sacrificed, and not engaged in nostalgic conservation of museum trash, times have changed, for those who did not notice it! On the other hand, it is necessary to “smartly” sell off real estate in order to “earn” funds, from the same series as Skolkovo and Most and the Olympics, etc. So that money would appear before the announcement of the next privatization. This is how gradually the state. property becomes private to those who raise Russia, who are going to live and develop in it. And what did you want, with your inconstancy, on the basis of social justice pushed by “someone”, you will vote out of your mind for any foreign candidate placed before your television eyes and that’s it. This is why a behind-the-scenes force is necessary and has been intensively created since the time of Yeltsin, the main task of which is to control the transition of power and the immutability of the political course, even contrary to the wishes of foolish children, ironically endowed with the right to vote. In principle, the same is true in the USA, England, France, etc. This is the kind of democracy we get and there is no other positive way out at this point in history yet!
    1. slon133
      0
      17 November 2013 15: 40
      Quote: SPACE
      Where the wind blows, there the smoke carries, the people know little, they think primitively and therefore cannot understand and see the main wave of what is happening in power, they see only the ripples on the water driven by the wind, hence the inconstancy, in principle it has always been like this at all times. Building a strong state is a difficult task, especially in conditions of imposed democracy and free opposition from external and internal destructive forces. You can’t do it alone, who can you rely on? To a fickle people driven by the winds of the media? You need your own, proven and devoted people, and loyalty is much more important than professionalism. And this path is thorny and tortuous, where the actions of the authorities are often contradictory in nature, this was the case under Ivan the Terrible and Peter the Great, this was also the case under Stalin, although it was much easier for them than in modern times, the uncontrolled rampant media and the fundamental laws of human relations in society says that the basic principles are unchanged, only the methods are forced to improve. What were Serdyukov’s tasks in the Moscow Region? Do the dirty work and kill two birds with one stone, on the one hand, demolish the old stuff and trim off the dried branches, thereby reducing the load on the defense budget, redirecting funds to where it is really needed and will contribute to a greater extent to the development of the country's defense capability... Something needs to be sacrificed, and not engaged in nostalgic conservation of museum trash, times have changed, for those who did not notice it! On the other hand, it is necessary to “smartly” sell off real estate in order to “earn” funds, from the same series as Skolkovo and Most and the Olympics, etc. So that money would appear before the announcement of the next privatization. This is how gradually the state. property becomes private to those who raise Russia, who are going to live and develop in it. And what did you want, with your inconstancy, on the basis of social justice pushed by “someone”, you will vote out of your mind for any foreign candidate placed before your television eyes and that’s it. This is why a behind-the-scenes force is necessary and has been intensively created since the time of Yeltsin, the main task of which is to control the transition of power and the immutability of the political course, even contrary to the wishes of foolish children, ironically endowed with the right to vote. In principle, the same is true in the USA, England, France, etc. This is the kind of democracy we get and there is no other positive way out at this point in history yet!
      1. slon133
        +1
        17 November 2013 15: 45
        Well, Serdyukov knows where to “redirect”!
      2. +3
        17 November 2013 17: 52
        “Loyalty is much more important than professionalism,” so choose your doctors No.
        1. 0
          17 November 2013 19: 02
          Quote: dart_noos
          “Loyalty is much more important than professionalism,” so choose your doctors

          Do you select your family and friends solely from the point of view of professionalism?
          Any of you can always be trained to become smart people, but who will teach you devotion?
          1. slon133
            +2
            17 November 2013 19: 16
            A couple more of these relatives and friends and enemies are not needed
  86. the guard
    +4
    17 November 2013 14: 43
    The first minister, whom no one in RA called by his last name. He did everything possible and even impossible (from the point of view of common sense) to download budget money. But the moral damage he caused to both the Army and society cannot be measured. This means that the same scoundrels are sitting in the Prosecutor General’s Office, because “it’s like a crow…”. There is no more trust in United Russia, no matter where you look there are swindlers. Where we are going ?
  87. KEKS44
    +5
    17 November 2013 14: 45
    I’m somehow disappointed in GDP!
  88. aleks222
    +3
    17 November 2013 14: 57
    Oho..ho.. about Serdyukov. Well, after all, a thief should sit? Something is wrong with us.
  89. +4
    17 November 2013 15: 00
    Well, Zulfiya (Putin) revealed her true face.
    1. Sharp
      -2
      17 November 2013 15: 26
      I still had hope, albeit weak, but it was there. But here Putin appoints a super-corrupt official (former governor of the Ivanovo region) Me to the post of Minister of Housing and Communal Services and Construction, before that the divorce of Putin and Kabaev, and now the appointment of Serdyukov. My hope died.
      1. -1
        17 November 2013 15: 43
        Hang yourself..then..To spite the Putinoids...!!!! wassat
        1. Sharp
          -2
          17 November 2013 17: 10
          Thanks for the advice. But only after you.
      2. +3
        17 November 2013 16: 38
        Sharp
        Oh-wey! What a bad person Putin is...wow, he got divorced! Horror-shamatokha! As I understand it, you have never been with any women other than your wife - no, no? And if they are not married, are they faithful to Dunka Kulakova? - Observe morality, because extramarital sexual relations are a very reprehensible and immoral matter. :)))
        Did you personally catch Kabaeva in Putin’s bed? I hope you shamed both adulterers and threatened them with the Last Judgment, right? :)))
        Or are you just jealous? Well, she's a good girl, isn't she? I’ll just tell you a terrible secret - not all gossips know exactly with whom Kabaeva lives :)))
        1. Sharp
          +1
          17 November 2013 17: 12
          Well, if a person missed his family, then his country.....
          1. +4
            17 November 2013 17: 31
            Sharp
            Well, yes, well, yes... So I have two marriages. Should I be kicked out of... work and put up against the wall? :)))
            In principle, only one of my mothers-in-law would agree with such a turn of events; the second would cover me with her body and protect me to the last drop of blood. :))) And my ex-wives do not consider me an Enemy of the People. :)))
            So, you shouldn’t repeat loud but primitive phrases that have no common sense. Sorry. :)))
          2. +2
            18 November 2013 01: 17
            Quote: Quick-witted
            Well, if a person missed his family, then his country.....

            Let's draw historical parallels between V.V. Putin and I.V. Stalin fellow ...
            So, Stalin’s wife actually shot herself (in this case it’s not worth going into the reasons), but everything was in order with the country. They won a difficult war, restored the destroyed economy...

            So WHAT is the relationship between the phenomena indicated in your comment?
            1. Kolovrat77
              +2
              18 November 2013 01: 36
              I thought the same about historical parallels; no one blames Stalin and Yezhov for his miscalculation, although Yezhov (a p.idor and a sadist) is worse than Serdyukov. Correct me if I'm wrong.
              1. 0
                18 November 2013 06: 30
                Stalin himself admitted his miscalculation with Yezhov, that’s why they don’t blame him
                1. +1
                  18 November 2013 19: 38
                  Quote: ivshubarin
                  Stalin himself admitted his miscalculation with Yezhov, that’s why they don’t blame him

                  Yes, Stalin and Yezhov did not miscalculate; there is no need to vulgarize and simplify it. There were no ready-made “builders of communism” at that time. What kind of personnel were available in those conditions - those were appointed. But if you have done evil, then you will respond adequately.
                  Not like now...
    2. +2
      17 November 2013 16: 00
      Quote: saz69rus
      Well, Zulfiya (Putin) revealed her true face.


      not Zulfiya, but Gyulchatai!
      1. avg
        +1
        17 November 2013 22: 14
        not Zulfiya, but Gyulchatai!

        Not Gulchitay, but Vovochka, and not a face, but...
  90. sergey261180
    +1
    17 November 2013 15: 01
    the parliamentarian gave the gay jeans ... with a zipper sewn in the back.
    As we say to someone who has messed up: “Put your pants on backwards, smear Vaseline on your ass and go into the boss’s office by looking at the mirrors.” laughing When the next reform comes, in a new form, Yudashkin must definitely take note of the Lithuanian experience, otherwise everyone is copying from the American one. soldier
  91. 0
    17 November 2013 15: 08
    Serdyukov will be the head of government..soon! He was clearly a Stirlitz! He handed over the common fund...with all his giblets! And all this PMA is protection...from a sniper..
  92. -1
    17 November 2013 15: 10
    To be honest, it was the young and stupid who took the bait. And not just me. A lot of emotions and a minimum of brains.
    http://hvylya.org/analytics/politics/glavnaya-problema-evrazii-pochemu-rossiya-p
    roigryivaet-bitvu-za-ukrainu.html
    Maybe you should THINK first, and then act.
    I did not react to the article about Taburetkin. I was looking forward to the weekly TV reviews. Not a word about Serdyukov, but in Vesti Nedeli they gave an extended speech about VVP and made a dig at Dimochka.
    Maybe the whole herd should walk slowly, slowly? Or will we react like degenerates to any stimuli?
    There is already a whole science - analytics. Take several sites. Pro and anti government. Read and think - who benefits?
    Serdyukov is under investigation, but not convicted. He has the right to hold any post not related to government. secrets. We (unfortunately) are not in 1937. If the USSR Criminal Code is introduced, then half of the loudmouths registered on the site will be under the article. And if the draft Stalinist Constitution, in the original, is put into effect, then everyone except minorities and thieves will calm down
    1. +4
      17 November 2013 15: 16
      The whole reality we know is some kind of senseless and merciless fucked up!
  93. +2
    17 November 2013 15: 15
    No more urine! And until the age of 17, you still have to endure and endure!!!
    1. +1
      17 November 2013 15: 29
      This is how we will try.
      Maybe sooner power will return to the people.
    2. +2
      17 November 2013 15: 43
      VNP1958PVN
      What are you looking forward to in '17? Civil war?
      So if you can’t wait, start - go and kill your neighbor, or go and shoot a policeman at the administration, or some secretary there - this will be what you are passionately waiting for, only in miniature.
      After all, Russia will immediately feel better after your heroic act. is not it?

      And if you don’t have urine, then why are you worried? Or are you afraid of... yourself? Well, in this case, I recommend going to the office where the toilet lives - and all unhealthy desires will immediately fly out of your head... or from where they clearly originate. :)))
      1. +3
        17 November 2013 16: 08
        The liberals are just waiting for our civil war to begin; they themselves will flee to the West, and we will kill each other.
      2. +5
        17 November 2013 17: 47
        Quote: smile
        What are you looking forward to in '17? Civil war?
        So if you can’t wait, start - go and kill your neighbor, or go and shoot a policeman at the administration, or some secretary there - this will be what you are passionately waiting for, only in miniature.
        After all, Russia will immediately feel better after your heroic act. is not it?


        It’s better to rewatch the movie “Quiet Flows the Flow”, that old Soviet one, when someone wants to go to the barricades, as the Russians killed the Russians, each for their truth... But revolutions and wars do not happen by themselves; they are carefully prepared. Now in Iraq they probably regret Hussein in Libya about Gaddafi, and Assad is not that bloody in reality. And even before going to the barricades, you must always remember that behind any revolution, the most popular of the people, there are far from people’s personalities with big money.
        Here is an interesting excerpt from Fursov about Shoigu and Serdyuuov.

        1. Serdyukov
          +1
          17 November 2013 17: 53
          Dear Stanislav, Fursov, of course, is a very intelligent person, but this is outright nonsense. We need to ask Fursov: why didn’t Medvedev appoint Shoigu if the Rockefellers need a strong Russian army?
          1. +7
            17 November 2013 20: 49
            Quote: Serdyukov
            We need to ask Fursov: why didn’t Medvedev appoint Shoigu if the Rockefellers need a strong Russian army?


            Probably because Medvedev is a protege of the Rothschilds according to Fursov, Khazin and others. Amnrik is really ruled by those whom we call the Anglo-Saxons, the descendants of the first settlers, Texas oil cowboys and descendants of slave owners and the Jewish families of bankers, the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Baruchs and others who control the Federal Reserve and the world financial system. In general, it is not worth saying, like Fedorov, that everything in Russia is subordinated to the will of the overseas masters. Of course, there are forces that are oriented towards the West, there are outright neocons and compradors, there is a bureaucracy and security forces, and between them there is a constant struggle for influence, resources, financial leverage, and so on. Naturally, there are agents of influence and the so-called fifth crown of American clans. But basically there is a squabble within our so-called “elite” for complete power and control over resources, first of all. That’s why we observe the idiotic contradictory actions of our authorities and, among other things, we are perplexed, in particular, by personnel decisions or plans for various incomprehensible reforms. Thus, each of Groups with such decisions seek to weaken and frame a competitor. Just the security forces who received tidbits of corporations from Putin, the generals of the military-industrial complex. the former red directors need Russia as a strong sovereign state, otherwise they simply won’t be needed. But financiers, compradors, oligarchs of the Yeltsin wave, on the contrary, do not need government costs in the form of the same officials and security forces, and for the convenience of transferring resources, it is more profitable to have Russia in the form of fragmented amorphous states = puppets. These are the free people of the world for whom Russia is just a territory for making money for which There must be restrictions on this process. The essence is the same, capitalist, only the spheres of application of capital are different. Therefore, you cannot say, like Fedorov, that some are patriots and fight for Russia and the people, while others are completely agents of the State Department. They are all capitalists in essence and they do not give a damn about the plebs. It’s just that some are forced, based on their interests, to support a unified state and pay the minimum social rent to the people so that they do not rebel. Others do not need this, because they view Russia as a colony with drunken natives and cheap guest workers, nothing more. That's the whole difference between them. And those who talk about a return to socialism do not understand that for full-fledged socialism, national capitalism must be formed, and preferably in the form of a state-monopoly dictatorship, in which, as in China, the emphasis will be on industrial production and not on the sale of resources and trade and financial speculation. Then highly qualified workers will be needed, engineers, teachers to train them, medicine to be reproduced, a class of educated employees will appear who will subsequently claim greater influence in the country. Then we can talk about socialism. There must be internal prerequisites and a driving class, which now simply does not exist or is very small, as well as nationally oriented productive capital. In general terms, without affecting the forms of power of which the most acceptable is the dictatorship of state and national capital, there is a demand for this. You can have different attitudes towards surveys of different centers.
            The people vote for strong power and order. The church is traditions and culture, which they strive to destroy, and the army is a condition for survival. That is, in essence, for the old slogan - “For the Faith, the Tsar and the Fatherland”
            Here is the general outline of the situation.
            1. Horde
              -1
              17 November 2013 21: 17
              Quote: Ascetic
              Just the security forces who received tidbits of corporations from Putin, the generals of the military-industrial complex. the former red directors need Russia as a strong sovereign state, otherwise they simply won’t be needed.


              As an ascetic, you think too highly of our “siloviks who have become capitalists”; their opinion is taken into account in Putin’s games last, otherwise we would have not just one Khodorkovsky, but many. What is now called “Russia” is a swamp where there is no longer only, what kind of opposition, but there is not even a boiling point, the entire will of the people has been suppressed, and those who, as you say, “are for the country” are not the Russian elite, they have not given a damn about our country for a long time, and money is good everywhere.
              In fact, now Russians have no one to rely on, Putin is half-liquid, but the Jewish thing predominates in him. It will only get worse.
            2. 0
              18 November 2013 20: 15
              Quote: Ascetic
              And those who talk about a return to socialism do not understand that...
              I admit that there are many of them, but they are a minority and we should not talk about them and not about the socialist revolution in the coming years, but about the following:
              In the context of a deepening global crisis and when the West, first of all, thinks of developing at the expense of Russia and its resources and no one needs a strong Russia, even a capitalist one, will we have the opportunity to build “capitalism with a human face”?
              The idea of ​​socialism has outlived its usefulness and the ideology of communism is false, as we are now told?
              What is unattainable and inhumane about this idea? Thomas Mann also argued that “the only thing more vile than communism can be anti-communism.”
              Quote: Ascetic
              That is, essentially for the old slogan - “For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland”

              All this is sad, it is quasi-ideology and primitiveness, almost according to Goebbels - ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Fuhrer.
              Quote: Ascetic
              Here's a general outline of the situation:
              It seems to me that the forecast of director Alexei German Jr. is more realistic: “...
              1. 0
                18 November 2013 20: 25
                ...director Alexei German Jr.: “My greatest fear is that we will go into a slow decline to the beat of drums. There will be speeches and shows on TV. There will be a lot of food in the stores, new cars in car dealerships, banquets in restaurants. And The internal mechanism of the country, its engine, its heart, will beat ever weaker. But outwardly they will not notice this, since there will be no real scientists, writers and artists left. Those who seem to be not so needed, but in fact, without them there will be no movement forward is not happening. A thousand trained cadets will not replace an academician..., scientists..., a writer..."
        2. +2
          17 November 2013 18: 15
          Ascetic
          Quiet Don is generally a masterpiece, and the Soviet film adaptation is a masterpiece of cinematography...
          As for the Freemasons, the Orders of Malta, world governments... I don’t know... I haven’t decided on my attitude to the topic. To be honest, I don’t believe in the World Government, although, of course, efforts to create it should have been made, I think, since the 18th-19th centuries. Logic demands this. But if it existed, there would be nothing unpredictable on the Planet. Attempts are one thing, successful implementation is something completely different. In general, I do not have enough information of the reliability of which I would be convinced.
      3. Horde
        -2
        17 November 2013 18: 12
        Quote: smile
        So if you can’t wait, go ahead and kill your neighbor, or go and shoot a policeman at the administration, or some secretary there - that’s what will happen


        The best thing is to take down some kind of watchdog of the modern state of affairs, so that it doesn’t drag under your feet...
        1. 0
          17 November 2013 19: 13
          Horde
          Go ahead...:))) just ask Mom for a spare diaper - you'll obviously need it.:))) you'll be pissing in your pants at the mere thought that you'll have to do something. :))) because you are clearly incapable of anything other than “pushing”. :)))
      4. +1
        18 November 2013 03: 09
        And I saw another dog with Putin! The avatar suits you very well!
  94. KEKS44
    +3
    17 November 2013 15: 29
    I watched the video with Zadornov and laughed. Highly recommend. Although, laughter through the tears!
  95. 0
    17 November 2013 15: 33
    Quote: Vasya
    To be honest, it was the young and stupid who took the bait. And not just me. A lot of emotions and a minimum of brains.
    http://hvylya.org/analytics/politics/glavnaya-problema-evrazii-pochemu-rossiya-p

    roigryivaet-bitvu-za-ukrainu.html
    Maybe you should THINK first, and then act.
    I did not react to the article about Taburetkin. I was looking forward to the weekly TV reviews. Not a word about Serdyukov, but in Vesti Nedeli they gave an extended speech about VVP and made a dig at Dimochka.
    Maybe the whole herd should walk slowly, slowly? Or will we react like degenerates to any stimuli?
    There is already a whole science - analytics. Take several sites. Pro and anti government. Read and think - who benefits?
    Serdyukov is under investigation, but not convicted. He has the right to hold any post not related to government. secrets. We (unfortunately) are not in 1937. If the USSR Criminal Code is introduced, then half of the loudmouths registered on the site will be under the article. And if the draft Stalinist Constitution, in the original, is put into effect, then everyone except minorities and thieves will calm down

    Said normally..!
  96. +3
    17 November 2013 16: 06
    <<<appointment of Serdyukov as general director of a federal company – what is that? State-owned companies! What's this?! To say that this is a mockery is to say nothing. This is, excuse me, an outrage...>>>
    This is the moment of truth! I don’t think that GDP is on the side of such figures and is ready to save them even at the cost of its image. It is also quite obvious that the GDP cannot fail to understand what a HORRIBLE blow, first of all, this appointment deals to its authority and, nevertheless, went for it. From this we can draw the only conclusion - the caste of high bureaucrats that has formed in Russia is too much for him! Today she decides who and where to be! And he was gently suggested to “sit and not tweet,” otherwise...we don’t have any irreplaceable people! Therefore, such a reaction from the GDP.
    1. Yarosvet
      +10
      17 November 2013 18: 11
      Quote: Goldmitro
      From this we can draw the only conclusion

      Why?

      Here is another conclusion for you: you stop unreasonably considering Putin as a guardian of the Fatherland, and everything immediately falls into place - and without any assumptions about the confrontation in power between various groups, the influence of nameless liberals, conspiracy theories with the Rothschilds, etc.

      1. +2
        17 November 2013 22: 21
        <<<Yarosvet
        ...without any assumptions about the confrontation in power between various groups, the influence of nameless liberals, conspiracy theories with the Rothschilds, etc.>>>
        I can't agree with you! If there had been no confrontation in power, no materials on Serdyukov and Co., Oboronservis, etc. would have appeared in the media AT ALL, unless, as in Soviet times, at the level of rumors and conversations in smoking rooms! If they are ALL there for one thing, then you have to be absolute idiots to expose yourself like that and agitate the people! Obviously, the initiators of this case did not have enough strength and power to bring it to a logical and legal end, and not to arrange this criminal Santa Barbara that disgraces the authorities!
        1. Yarosvet
          +2
          17 November 2013 23: 26
          Quote: Goldmitro
          If there were no confrontation in power
          The scandal began against the backdrop of Taburetkin’s family problems.

          no materials on Serdyukov and Co., Oboronservis, etc. would appear in the media AT ALL
          So no materials appeared on Stool (the situation is similar to the situation with Luzhko and the prosecutors - the authorities seem to have shown their teeth in the fight against corruption, but no one was hurt)

          If they are ALL there for one thing, then you have to be complete idiots to expose yourself like that and excite people
          They excited the people - so what? Something has changed? So you actually got involved in conspiracy theories, trying to whitewash the black dog in your own mind.

          Obviously, the initiators of this case did not have enough strength and power
          Do you understand the mechanism of what you are talking about? They are not measuring their strength there on the tatami - legislative mechanisms and compromising mechanisms are working there.
          The only way to prevent the matter from going ahead when someone really wants to do this is to have compromising evidence on this “someone” or physically eliminate this “someone”. And you can have dirt on “someone” only if “someone” is a scumbag himself, and therefore works for himself, and not for the country.

          You assume a behind-the-scenes struggle between supposedly patriots and supposedly traitors, but you forget that in addition to such a struggle, there is also a struggle for power within one group, there is revenge, there is personal enmity, etc. Try to look at what is happening in general from the point of view of the logic of the organized crime group’s actions, and everything will fall into place for you.
          And also ask yourself whether anything has ever happened that could clearly indicate that Putin is working specifically for the country, and not for himself and the group that he represents, and whose interests sometimes coincide with the interests of the Russian Federation.
    2. 0
      18 November 2013 12: 25
      Image and money are hardly compatible concepts. VVP is either a puppet in the hands of those who have the Russian Federation, or he himself is from a cohort of thieves, or he himself needs people’s help! Let him turn to the people for help in complying with the Federal Law of the Russian Federation - the army will support him, and the people will be happy to deal with the police themselves!
      1. Yarosvet
        0
        18 November 2013 13: 02
        Quote: d.gksueyjd

        What and speech.
  97. +8
    17 November 2013 16: 30
    “With 1 in November 2013, Anatoly Serdyukov works as the general director of the Federal Research Testing Center for Mechanical Engineering. FIITS M is on the balance sheet of the Federal Property Management Agency and is part of one of Rostec's holdings, RT-Auto,” the corporation said.

    Big ship - a big anchor.
    Tolya Serdyukov caused irreparable damage to the Russian Army, did not offend his sponsors, himself or his team, shared it with everyone, and gained invaluable experience of destruction.
    Now it’s the turn of Russian mechanical engineering, Tolik will boost it so much that it won’t even be able to produce chamber pots. But all workers will wear new uniforms from Mudashkin.
  98. vjun.v
    +7
    17 November 2013 16: 36
    I fully support the idea regarding the sniper. There's enough ammunition for everyone...
  99. +9
    17 November 2013 17: 17
    Note to anti-communists:
    In the October Revolution of 1917, many fewer people died than in February of the same year.
    The Bolsheviks got power on the principle that they picked up what fell down on its own.
    But when the Entente decided that now Russia could easily be divided and taken over, that’s when the war began, which was only partly Civil.

    So if anyone shoots at people, it will be provocateurs - the same people who used chemical weapons in Syria, shot at our peacekeepers in Georgia and other countries, provoked aggression in Yugoslavia...

    But the people will not shoot at themselves.
  100. +5
    17 November 2013 17: 19
    See, that one has arrived.
    We are all considered a herd along the way.