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The last battle of the Slavic Corps

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The last battle of the Slavic CorpsFor the first time in stories Russian FSB made arrests under an exotic criminal article on mercenarism. The two-thousand "Slavic Corps" attempted to form on the Syrian land leaders of a private military company from St. Petersburg found themselves in Lefortovo cells. The rank and file soldiers of good fortune, who told Fontanka about their first and last fight, are dissatisfied with the loss of commanders: now they have no one to ask for the remuneration in time for the war.


About Russian citizens who go to Syria to fight the regime of Bashar al-Assad because of their religious beliefs, has long been known. The fact that mercenaries-Russians can participate in the armed conflict and on the side of the current government started talking in October 2013, when the opposition distributed on the Internet documents allegedly destroyed by a resident of the Krasnodar Territory Alexey Malyuta in the clash near the city of Homs. Finding out that our fellow citizens had indeed traveled to Syria for armed work under contracts with Slavonic Corps Limited (Slavonic Corps) stationed in St. Petersburg, Fontanka inquired about the number of our fellow countrymen who participated in the adventure. It turned out that more than ten people had left the banks of the Neva for seeking happiness and earning under Arab bullets. Some of them agreed to the conversation. Asking not to call in the publication of the names: “To nothing this. We are not looking for popularity, and the FSB gave us a subscription. But we will not be silent, so that others will not fall as we do. We are back, we are just lucky. ”

How to get to war

Appearances, passwords and other conspiracy are not needed. Since the spring of 2013, the announcements of the “Slavic Corps” about recruiting former military personnel with combat experience to work in long-distance business trips have appeared on specialized sites throughout Russia. Many have responded. Not all retired officers of the Airborne Forces and Special Forces, fired SOBRs and riot policemen found themselves in civilian life. Someone's office five days a week is fine, but someone has a sharp knife. And not everyone who knows how to skillfully handle a machine gun or a sniper rifle has the talent of a businessman. It became boring in the metropolis, the notorious "dashing" ended, and to command the barrier in the chop is humiliating and unprofitable. The St. Petersburg former riot policemen, former special forces officers of the internal troops, and bodyguards were interested in offering 5 thousands of American dollars a month to protect certain “energy facilities”. It is an everyday matter, almost all of them have the North Caucasus, Tajikistan behind them, and the uneasy experience of “solving problems” with alarming people around crime. 20 thousand dollars for disability and 40 thousand for death: acceptable.

A call on the phone, then a meeting on the street with the head of the Moran Security Group, lieutenant colonel of the FSB in the reserve Vyacheslav Kalashnikov, who introduced himself as a general and explained the conditions. Then an interview with a personnel specialist in the office of the Baltic Rifle Center on Alexander Blok Street, 5 house, filling out questionnaires and ordering a passport.

The call to Moscow followed in September 2013. This time they talked with candidates in the premises of the Moran Security Group, that in Potapovsky lane, the house of 5. They explained that they would have to go to Syria, from the company “Slavic Corps”. Warned to be ready. We did not have time to return to Petersburg, the bell: “Come to Moscow urgently. It's time to fly on a business trip. With you - only a passport, do not take anything of the military or put on, intelligence of the enemy does not sleep! ”

Phantom Contract

The signing of contracts with Hong Kong-based Slavonic Corps Limited took place in the literal sense of the word on the knee on the platform of the Leningrad station: “Come on, come on, time does not wait.” Of the approximately twenty candidates who arrived, three, seeing Hong Kong in the requisites, turned around and went home instead of Syria. The rest took the risk. Bribed the promise to pay thousands of dollars in advance 4 each month and a solemn oath to transfer the first tranche in the coming days. In addition, men are not accustomed to the papers and more appreciated the agreement, believing that there is no way to deceive them.


Next was the flight to Lebanese Beirut, moving by car to Damascus. From the Syrian border - with a convoy of local guards. Local hotel, then the plane to Latakia, military base.

Tank for the guard

“A large field between Lattakia and Tartus is surrounded by barbed wire. There were located the Syrian reservists and our battalion. It used to be a racetrack. Placed in a former stable. By October, there were 267 people from the Slav Corps, divided into two companies. One company was staffed by Cossacks from the Kuban, another - by people from all over Russia, from St. Petersburg a 10 man - 12. As the commanding fathers said, the number of corps in Syria was supposed to be brought to 2 thousands of people. "

In addition to machine guns, the battalion received machine guns and grenade launchers. Anti-aircraft mounts - 1939 release. Mortars - 1943. Crews were formed for four tanks T-72 and several infantry fighting vehicles (infantry fighting vehicles). The question of the conformity of armaments to the tasks of object protection arose even sharply among the most gullible and was asked.

“Have you come to fight or guard?” Who is to protect - in the eternal outfit for housekeeping, ”- such was the response commanding word.
The project was led by Vadim Gusev, whom many knew as deputy director of the Moran Security Group.

For whom we fight

This is not fully understood. “When they spoke to us in Russia, they explained that we would go under a contract with the Syrian government, convinced that everything was legal and everything was in order. Like, our government and the FSB are aware of and participate in the project. When we arrived at the scene, it turned out that they had sent us, like gladiators, under a contract with some Syrian who either relates to the government or not ... That is, we are a private army of local authority. But there was no going back. As they said, a return ticket costs money, and we will work it out, whether we like it or not. ”
The task was reduced, as announced to the Slavic Corps fighters, to retain control over the center of the oil industry, the city of Deir-ez-Zor. In order to begin to control it, it was necessary to get to it. More than 500 kilometers in places where government troops occupied, where the opposition, and where it is completely incomprehensible by whom.

Trekking "Slavic Corps"

The first and only combat operation "Slavic Corps" did not work out from the very beginning. As one of our interlocutors, who was supposed to be part of the BMP crew, says that the 1979 cars of the year they were given were complete junk and couldn’t bring them to a combat-ready state.

The prepared T-72s were replaced by Syrians with incapable rusty T-62s, which also had to be left. The 15 October campaign was launched on Hyundai sheathed with homemade armor and JMC jeeps. We covered them with Bashar al-Assad portraits and Syrian flags and drove off.
Maybe they would have slipped, but the valiant and unpredictable Syrian intervened along the road aviation. The helicopter pilot, who wanted to either take a closer look at the caravan or frighten him with an imitation of an attack, in the middle of the desert and the boundless sky managed to find the power line wire, get tangled in it and crash to the convoy. There was a slight injury to one “legionnaire” and a bent submachine gun to the second. The crumpled turntable and pilot had to be dragged to a military airfield in Homs, the pace was lost.

Alien war

Two days for some reason spent at the airport. 18-th of a sudden alarm sank into the car. It seems like in the neighboring town of Sukhne the oppositional rebels leaned on the Syrian militiamen and it was necessary to help out the militiamen. Three or four hours later, they finally moved somewhere along the road, came under fire under some burning city. Spread out, took up the defense. The Cossack company departed to the left and got into a mess - it entered into a clash with someone who was not behind Bashar al-Assad. Deployed mortars, of which, however, did not manage to cover the column of opponents, the government self-propelled gun (self-propelled artillery installation) approached, supported with fire. Bombed on the enemies of Assad aircraft. The gunmen, who, according to various sources, were not either 2 thousands or 6 thousands, were stubborn, apparently, began to bypass the battalion and take in ticks. “Slavic Corps”, not wanting to die for the ideals of Syrian statehood, was useless, plunged into cars and began to depart. During this departure, most likely, the bag of Alexey Malyuta was lost, which was taken as a trophy to the opponents of the regime.

It may be considered a great success that the corps lost only six people wounded for the entire battle, and there are two of them seriously enough. Immediately, we note that all the wounded were removed from the battle and returned home with everyone. “The sandstorm saved us, covered us at the departure, but also hid us from local souls. Such a charge of sand - nothing is visible. But thanks to him we are alive. "

End of mission

The way back to Homs, and then to the base in Latakia was unhappy. The attitude of the Syrians to the Russian legionnaires has changed noticeably. They recall the loud scandal that occurred at the airfield between Vadim Gusev and the Syrian "master" of the "Slavic Corps": they clearly had different points of view on future plans. The cries of contracting parties heard everything, including the mention of dollars, and more specifically, about 4 millions of dollars that need to be worked out. Yet the battalion returned to Latakia. If in September the Syrians met with flowers almost, now they looked, if not as enemies, then not as heroes. Surly so watched. Soon, they began to slowly disarm, the corps had to hand over all the heavy weapon. Until recently, they did not part only with automatic weapons. They say that without a machine gun in Syria, a Russian person has nothing to do now.

Met with honor

Despite the fact that, according to the contract, the trip was supposed to last five months, in the last days of October, the personnel were loaded onto two charter aircraft and sent to Moscow. In Vnukovo, the travelers did not expect such a reception. From the plane let out one by one, each fell into the hands of the officers of the FSB. Quick inspection, removal of SIM cards and any media, a short interrogation as a witness. Then the withdrawal of a passport, a non-disclosure subscription and a ticket to the house. Vadim Gusev, who flew in business class and left the plane first, remained at the disposal of investigators.

As explained in the Moran Security Group, he and another employee of the company, responsible for staffing Yevgeny Sidorov, were arrested in a criminal case initiated by the FSB headquarters for the never before used article 359 of the Criminal Code - mercenary.

There is no money and will not be

The nuance is that 4 thousands of dollars that should have been paid to each “security specialist” of the “Slavic Corps” at the beginning of the second month of a business trip, almost no one had time, and now in different parts of Russia there are very angry men around 200 intend to get their money. But Gusev and Sidorov are in Lefortovo, you cannot ask them. Sergey Kramsky, whose signature is on the contracts, none of the legionnaires have never seen. Petersburgers say they met with the leaders of the Moran Security Group, Vyacheslav Kalashnikov and Boris Chikin, who recruited them to work in Syria. They allegedly explained that this is not their business, they have no relation to Slavonic Corps, and there is no money and there will not be.

Professional word: This is a gamble

Once again, asking Vyacheslav Kalashnikov to speak on the Syrian theme and once again without receiving an answer, Fontanka asked for comment on the head of the largest private military company in Russia, RSB-Group. Oleg Krinitsyn is sure: the Syrian history of Slavonic Corps was originally an adventure.

“The widely advertised campaign to recruit mercenaries to Syria initially sounded like a joke, a certain PR-action. Then people believed and reached for their dream - to make money. But not everyone understood that the money was dirty and, possibly, mixed with blood. Before sending people to a country where active fighting is taking place, where there is practically a “layer cake” from the Syrian army, the opposition, the Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, etc. fighters, it was necessary to prepare them, as well as understand how to get them out of there. Among the faces of the guys, imprinted on the background of the Syrian technology, hung with weapons, I noticed some of our former employees who were dismissed from the company for their low moral qualities. I saw among them guys with convictions. This once again confirms that when recruiting, the task was not to attract high-quality specialists, but it was just necessary to plug this “hole” with cannon fodder, and quickly. And the guys were sent under contracts resembling suicide contracts. People in advance signed the contract with the request to bury their remains in their homeland or, if impossible, in the country where they would die, and then reburied in Russia. Horror.


And we must remember that the article "mercenary" has not been canceled. Armed people from the offshore company "Slavkorp" without any security license, official permission for weapons went to protect it is not clear who it is not clear from what in a foreign country in troubled times. The fighters used heavy weapons, old military equipment, sniper rifles, Kalashnikov assault rifles. A form has been issued. One American sample. Another form - reminiscent of the special forces of the Syrian army. What is the security structure for such mimicry? The answer is obvious: the Russian guys would use it in the dark. And then on television they would not show the Krasnodar collective farmer Malyut, who, swearing merrily, breaks the crumbling branch about his similarly cheerful colleague in Syria, but the bloody footage of the killed Slavs in the form of the Syrian army would be presented, which, in principle, should have been provoke even more vigorous action by the Americans and the British in arming and supporting the Syrian militants.

The contract was not concluded with the state structure, but with some Syrian oligarch, allegedly with the consent of Assad. We went to protect the oil fields, and when we arrived, it turned out that these fields still needed to be repulsed. And when our guys were smart enough not to get involved in this slaughter, they were simply and unashamedly “handed over” to the militants, and they tried to surround and destroy a group of Russians from mortars and small arms. This is not our war, not our country, this is pure mercenary, but the people who went there were not to blame, they did not fully realize that they did not fall into a beautiful fairy tale, but to places where the fighter lives on average 2 - 3 weeks. They were sent as sheep to the slaughter. You need to understand that we are Russian, we are strangers in that country. Local fighters (on both sides) would have “handed them over” in the first place. What, in principle, happened.

I do not exclude that some of the managers of the Moran Security Group, and the affiliation of this company to Slavkorp, are quite obvious, could have embarked on this adventure in order to plug the financial hole that formed after the seizure of their vessel Myre Seadiver in Nigeria. But a military officer, who understands what life is and what death is, would not have sent his people there.

In the "RSB-groups" more than once there were offers to work in Syria, and from different sides (the free Syrian army and simply incomprehensible businessmen), and the money was offered serious, but we did not go for it. That's when RSB-Group will be offered a contract with the government - then we will work, but work under an official contract with the state structure. We are ready to professionally and legally ensure the security of any object: a seaport, an airport, television and radio stations, right up to the Russian embassy.

FSB

The answer to the question of the correspondent about Syria and the “Slavonic Corps” was given by the duty officer immediately: “The Public Relations Center of the FSB does not have such information”.

PS

Fight at Sukhna. View from the opposition

The Mujahideen of the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham in the Homs area conducted a successful operation.
Assault units attacked a group of kafirs in the village of Sukhna. During a successful offensive, a large CAT was captured. Another 1 PPC is surrounded. The fighting continues.

The Mujahids succeeded in destroying more than 100 Asadites and Shiites.

Among the destroyed there are Russian mercenaries.

Fight at Sukhna. View from the official Damascus

In Homs, particularly fierce battles by the Syrian army and militant gangs continued in the area of ​​As-Sukhna, where for several days terrorist armed groups attempted to seize military targets. On October 17, they managed to achieve advancement when attracting numerous gangs, including those who arrived from Raqqa. And already 20-th number of militants were thrown back.

Three terrorist hideouts of Jash Al-Islam were attacked by combat aircraft in the vicinity of As-Sukhna. As a result, more than 25 militants were destroyed.

October 20 eliminated many terrorists during the fighting, including 2 field commanders from Chechnya and Egypt nicknamed Abu Hamza Al-Sheshani and Abu Musab Al-Masri, and a Saudi citizen, one of Bin Laden’s personal friends, Jafin Omar Al-Utebi .
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  1. makst83
    makst83 16 November 2013 15: 14
    20
    I agree with the FSB-com not the fuck we do there. Most of the "Wild Geese" are pure adrenelines and dough seekers who do not care who to fight for, as long as they pay (they fight for the money, not for the cause and idea).
    1. serg83
      serg83 16 November 2013 15: 25
      44
      I can’t say for Makst83 for a company that was equipped from all over Russia, but for a company of Cossacks I am 100% sure that none of them would ever fight for a Wahhabi scum ...
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 16 November 2013 15: 41
        +6
        Quote: serg83
        none of them would ever fight for a Wahhabi offspring ...

        I agree that the enemies of the Fatherland need to be cut even at distant frontiers!
        ... and more - less "teasing geese" and getting advertised going there for this ...
        1. smile
          smile 16 November 2013 17: 08
          +8
          Rus2012
          If I were in the place of the Western special services, I would carry out an operation to hire such idiots. I would send them to Syria, and there I would "take them prisoner." And for a week at least the whole planet would be entertained with the details (which they would all undoubtedly admit) of how the Russians, who fear the international community and do not officially intervene in the conflict, send their bandits to help the bloody dictator.

          I am also surprised that such a feint would not have been made by the Poles or the Lithuanians — they would have recruited on their own territory and taken warm.
          The result is a grand scandal and new epaulets.
          The operations are not that complicated. We can only be glad that our "potential partners" for some reason did not carry out such operations.
          1. Rusich51
            Rusich51 17 November 2013 17: 54
            +4
            Quote: smile
            If I were in the place of the Western special services, I would carry out an operation to hire such idiots. I would send them to Syria, and there I would "take them prisoner." And for a week at least the whole planet would be entertained with the details (which they would all undoubtedly admit) of how the Russians, who fear the international community and do not officially intervene in the conflict, send their bandits to help the bloody dictator.


            I do not believe this article a single gram. Some kind of dregs.
            1. Sandov
              Sandov 18 November 2013 12: 20
              0
              Quote: Rusich51
              I do not believe this article a single gram. Some kind of dregs.


              Yes, obviously a provocation.
              1. kavkasos stratotis
                kavkasos stratotis 20 November 2013 18: 06
                0
                As it turns out - everything written is true
            2. kavkasos stratotis
              kavkasos stratotis 20 November 2013 18: 05
              +1
              No, it's true - already on West Russia they showed it yesterday
            3. Lesnik
              Lesnik 28 November 2013 00: 49
              0
              You just did not hear Iraqi contractors. Something similar and now there
      2. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 16 November 2013 15: 56
        0
        Quote: serg83
        I can’t say for Makst83 for the company that was equipped

        And the 2nd company is not for them, the article is written. But the impression is that the contract soldiers fell off the couch, and he, as you know, does not contribute to supporting the form, both physical and emotional. Building a form could cost a lot, although they say you won’t drink the experience.
      3. Vadivak
        Vadivak 16 November 2013 23: 46
        17
        Quote: serg83
        a company of Cossacks is 100% sure that none of them would ever fight for a Wahhabi offspring ...

        Your confidence has a foundation of facts.

        January 2, 1993. On this day, a large unit of Cossacks (up to 50 people) arrived in the eastern Bosan town of Visegrad. The position of the Serbs towards Russian volunteers began to change after the more than successful actions of Russian troops, especially the Second RDO. The Serbs concluded that it would be more expedient to use the Russians not to raise the spirit of the Serbian soldiers, but to solve complex combat missions. Guided by these considerations, the Serbs significantly increased funding for general measures for the arrival of volunteers, hoping in the first half of 1993 to increase the total number of Russian troops to 150 people The main forces were to be in Visegrad 100-120 people. This group consisted mainly of Cossacks, together with the assault companies of 3 VRS brigades (Vysehrad, Gorazhdinsky, Rogatitskaya), to make a powerful throw along the Drina River to the center of the enemy enclave Gorazhdy.
        They acted in close cooperation with the leadership of the Serbian volunteer detachments "White Eagles". In the first half-hundred Cossack Cossacks were from the Don, Saratov, Moscow, in addition to the Cossacks there were representatives of some of the gentile organizations of Russia. This detachment fought in Vysehrad for 2 months, it was commanded successively by 3 marching chieftains. The second of them, Gennady Kotov, a Cossack colonel from Volgodonsk, died in February 1993. Ataman Gennady Kotov is undoubtedly one of the most worthy commanders of the Russian Volunteer Movement.
        One of the striking examples of the combat experience of Russian volunteers that is applicable for evaluating the rifle squad in defense is the battle for the Zaglavak height (Eastern Bosnia, spring 1993). It is comparable to the feat of the Pskov paratroopers in Chechnya in the spring of 2000. At the height of Zaglavak, large enemy forces unexpectedly attacked detachment of 9 Russian volunteers. For 6 hours, the detachment, with losses, fought under artillery and mortar fire until reinforcements arrived, with limited fire support to Serbian artillery. According to the Serbian command, based on the interception of enemy data, the latter lost about 80 soldiers killed and more than 100 wounded. Success was achieved not only by the reinforcement approach (the detachment had the opportunity to withdraw), but also by the presence of several machine guns, a large stock of ammunition. Failure under the Headline led to the cessation of the enemy offensive in this sector of the front.
        The picture shows Russian volunteers in the Beli Vukovi (White Wolves) reconnaissance and sabotage detachment of the Sarajevo-Romani corps.
        1. Plato
          Plato 17 November 2013 00: 50
          -8
          And after all, it looks solid.
          But in fact, among all this nation of Russians there are three, maybe four people.
          After all, we read books too ...
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 16 November 2013 15: 44
      12
      FSB GRU eats bread for good reason
      On October 20, during the fighting, army units managed to eliminate many terrorists, including 2 field commanders from Chechnya and Egypt, nicknamed Abu Hamza Al-Sheshani and Abu Musaab al-Masri, as well as a Saudi citizen, one of Bin Laden’s personal friends Omar Al-Uteib
      Well done! Shoot so shoot ... So it will be with everyone!
      1. DimychDV
        DimychDV 17 November 2013 05: 32
        +5
        To untie three navels of the earth in one day is very good. But this riffraff has spawned in thousands ... And by the way: someone is planning to oppose those "peaceful Muslim universities" in our Islamic republics, from where, apparently, already Russian-born students began to go out to die instead of pseudo-Muslim thugs under Russian bullets ?
    3. smile
      smile 16 November 2013 16: 59
      18
      makst83
      Right I would also like to doubt that they believed that the operation was supervised by our respective services, the peasants should know very well how our special services operate in such cases.
      The circumstances of the selection of personnel, the conclusion of contracts and transfers described in the article exclude the possibility that the state is involved in such a mess. And the comrades understood this perfectly ... or were absolutely impassable d .. mi.

      By the way, the white "wild geese" do not allow such setups against themselves. And they ALWAYS receive guarantees, including financial ones, as well as an advance payment.
      We were dealt with ours, as with African savages, lured to a recruiting station by a box of fish. And they lured ... worthless to such specialists.
      1. Plato
        Plato 17 November 2013 00: 34
        10
        I fully agree with you.
        A large part of the frank lies written in the article.
        The recruitment mechanism described in the article cannot collect more than 200 people. The article contains the truth and it is in the named number of St. Petersburg residents 10-15 people. Add to them, already with a big stretch, the same number of Muscovites and you will get a real number of "cool mercenaries".
        In the actions of employers, frank dilettantism penetrates.
        It seems like it is written about experienced warriors, but the text shows that they got dibs not only not reading newspapers, but also not watching TV. They were really offended by the alleged deception - they supposedly invited me to guard, but here the war ...
        Already on this fragment the article cannot be trusted.
        1. smile
          smile 17 November 2013 00: 40
          +2
          Plato
          Thank you for the great addition. Congratulations on your first comment and let me welcome you as a new colleague! From me +++++
    4. Xroft
      Xroft 16 November 2013 20: 08
      -3
      This is a specific signal to the security forces, today they were hired in Syria to fight ... and tomorrow in Russia against the Russian army.
      1. Xroft
        Xroft 16 November 2013 21: 53
        +4
        And what are people minus? correctly said
        fight for the loot, and not for the cause and idea.
        And what's the difference for what they pay? look who is already blowing up buses in Volgograd. Idealists do you really believe that they went there for the people to die?
        I just for something the FSB would close such future militants.
    5. Cherdak
      Cherdak 16 November 2013 21: 32
      10
      Quote: makst83
      fight for the loot, but not for the cause and idea



      Most people confuse reality with virtuality
      1. smile
        smile 16 November 2013 23: 14
        +2
        Cherdak
        No, well, here you are unfair, if you look at the photo you posted, then it’s a sin not to mistake the levers ... :))))) The owner of the levers clearly does not mind ... what the hell is that? Is it possible that a wife with a MANPADS can reasonably advise? :))))
    6. dmitrich
      dmitrich 17 November 2013 05: 11
      0
      I do not believe this clerk.
    7. tor11121
      tor11121 17 November 2013 13: 39
      0
      something doesn’t look like wild geese. It more resembles a provocation against Russia that has not been brought to its logical conclusion. Too much dregs.
    8. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 17 November 2013 14: 07
      +1
      Article-provocation-no need to "answer" I don't give a fuck.
    9. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 17 November 2013 19: 52
      0
      Quote: makst83
      I agree with the FSB-com not the fuck we do there. Most of the "Wild Geese" are pure adrenelines and dough seekers who do not care who to fight for, as long as they pay (they fight for the money, not for the cause and idea).

      The funny thing is, they quickly did it. Unlike the same prayer rooms and other Wahhabi recruiters.
    10. Lesnik
      Lesnik 28 November 2013 00: 48
      0
      Okay for the IDEA and so for the loot which by the way will receive a GENERALLY LEFT DUKE I don’t understand is there a head on his shoulders or does romance play in the ass?
      What are you guys? Okay, they would have killed and if he had remained crippled? Who will you need?
  2. domokl
    domokl 16 November 2013 15: 40
    10
    Wild geese are wild ... It feels like this is the first time ... Have you forgotten Yugoslavia? Transnistria? Everything revolves around its axis ... Some are fighting on the one hand, others on the other ... And they get money from one, possibly pocket ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 16 November 2013 15: 55
      12
      It’s stupid to stick one’s head into another’s war — you need to help with reconnaissance weapons and not cannon fodder.
      1. domokl
        domokl 16 November 2013 16: 02
        10
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        It is foolish to stick your head in a foreign war

        Maybe ... Only sometimes I have to ... I am completely calm about mercenaries. People just don’t know how to fight, but in their native country they are nobody.
        But having gone into a foreign war, you need to understand that you are becoming illegal and here and here. They pay money for this ... Even in Soviet times, soldiers who were captured in a foreign war were not recognized by the states ... They are as if from nowhere. ..And the attitude was the same ... Mercenary-death ...
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 16 November 2013 16: 13
          +4
          Yes it is.
          In this story, I focused on several points:
          Signing a contract with a dubious office is unreasonable
          Guys did not think about the legality of their stay in Syria
          Rushing headlong into this adventure is stupid
          BUT there is one but -like thing happened in IRAQ there for some reason no one made so much noise although here everything is one to one.
      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 16 November 2013 16: 14
        +4
        In the photo are not Russian mercenaries. The same is in another discussion and without smeared faces. Drive?

        http://i58.fastpic.ru/big/2013/1112/2f/61041533e367377ff0787077f5d5722f.jpg
      3. igor67
        igor67 16 November 2013 16: 44
        +6
        And I borrowed this picture from today's commentary by VAF, I think Sergey will not be offended, and why should you cover your face after that
        1. Tatarus
          Tatarus 16 November 2013 18: 00
          +2
          Quote: igor67
          why then cover your face


          Intrigue to create. And they say NATO shoes. Trophies?
          1. Yugra
            Yugra 16 November 2013 18: 21
            +2
            I think the NATO uniform and weapons from the Saakashvilev fighters selected in Georgia
          2. igor67
            igor67 16 November 2013 18: 25
            +5
            Quote: Tatarus
            Quote: igor67
            why then cover your face


            Intrigue to create. And they say NATO shoes. Trophies?

            So I look, why put on NATO clothes, because army soldiers can mix up, and in the wake, shoes belay
          3. Plato
            Plato 17 November 2013 00: 54
            +5
            These are warriors from the British PMC.
            Croats, Serbs, Bosnians and Russians.
            Photo from Iraq or Afghanistan.
            That's why NATO uniforms and shoes
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    2. waisson
      waisson 16 November 2013 19: 40
      +6
      in Serbia, a volunteer received 50 Deutsch marks or 50 dinars, but Harvats and Muslims drew grandmothers, they sponsored the Americans, so you don’t have to row everyone, there’s a volunteer and there’s a mercenary, although this is the same in international law, so who hasn’t experienced all this pleasure you don’t have to yell stupidly in your own skin and whoever remembers having suffered just think everything home and go home for a week or two and you're at a loss it's like extreme
      1. Plato
        Plato 17 November 2013 00: 42
        +1
        This is for what period of payment was 50 Deutschmarks?
        And in what kind of Serbia was the war?
        What years are you talking about?
        1. waisson
          waisson 17 November 2013 05: 34
          +1
          Republic of Sierpsk 94 year 3 couple
          1. Plato
            Plato 17 November 2013 13: 54
            0
            Which brigade?
            See personalized posts
            1. waisson
              waisson 17 November 2013 20: 12
              +1
              3 RDO I think this is enough
  3. Tatarus
    Tatarus 16 November 2013 15: 41
    24
    It is very similar to a global provocation. The fighters were assured that the FSB and the government were in the know, they were recruiting, most likely, of Slavic appearance. In case of captivity and showing on TV, 100% "hand of Moscow". SUBSTITUTE was.
    1. vlad0
      vlad0 16 November 2013 16: 19
      12
      I agree to 100. A very strange and muddy story. More inclined to the version that the group was assembled specifically for the fraud and discredit of the Russian Federation.
      In addition, if the guys are such professionals and have had the experience of such adventures, they could have double-checked the situation and pumped it, fortunately, our military is in Syria, and a normal servant can always find the right way out to get the required information.
  4. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 15: 44
    -13 qualifying.
    There are no words to convey your feelings. Volunteers who know how to separate good from evil are taken to Zindan. Yes, it’s not somebody else but the Russian special services. We need to consider this.
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 16 November 2013 16: 13
      +9
      Stupidity wrote. They did not separate anything. Stupidly drove the dough to cut down.

      Quote: EdwardTich68
      Volunteers able to separate good from evil


      And by the way, a mercenary cannot be a volunteer. Stupidity inside stupidity. You have the talent, however.
      1. igor67
        igor67 16 November 2013 16: 55
        +8
        Quote: Tatarus
        Stupidity wrote. They did not separate anything. Stupidly drove the dough to cut down.

        Quote: EdwardTich68
        Volunteers able to separate good from evil


        And by the way, a mercenary cannot be a volunteer. Stupidity inside stupidity. You have the talent, however.

        Probably the series on the 2nd national have seen enough, forgot the name there, mercenaries only for dollars defend the interests of Russia, Sidikhin in the title role. How is this possible? Love the country and then only for dollars, and not for a small amount? So the mercenary agrees with you, there cannot be volunteers fighting for an idea,
        1. Tatarus
          Tatarus 16 November 2013 17: 29
          +3
          Quote: igor67
          So the mercenary agrees with you, there cannot be volunteers fighting for an idea,


          Well what are you doing. sad I had to put an Israeli flag plus. laughing
          1. igor67
            igor67 16 November 2013 17: 33
            +4
            Quote: Tatarus
            Quote: igor67
            So the mercenary agrees with you, there cannot be volunteers fighting for an idea,


            Well what are you doing. sad I had to put an Israeli flag plus. laughing

            I won’t be like that anymore drinks
            1. smile
              smile 16 November 2013 17: 45
              +6
              igor67
              no-no-no, don’t listen to him, he will teach you bad things. :))) Stay as you are :))) But the flags ... Allah .. with them, with flags. Sometimes you read your comments and it seems that you are my colleague or neighbor. And sometimes under our flag sits such rot ... that it becomes insulting for ours. So I would have changed you ... by a dozen of the above :)))
              1. Tatarus
                Tatarus 16 November 2013 17: 51
                +2
                Quote: smile
                no, no, no, don’t listen to him, he will teach you bad things.


                Whom is this him? recourse

                Not sickly minus caught. Okay, I’ll change the question

                Who is he?

                Quote: smile
                So I would have changed you ... by a dozen of the above :)))


                And here it is not at all clear whether a compliment or an insult.
                1. smile
                  smile 16 November 2013 18: 53
                  +1
                  Tatarus
                  Pancake. Yes, I joked. Honestly.:)))
                  The above is (my quote) - "And sometimes there is such rot under our flag ..". And I certainly didn't mean you.
                  Forgive me for calling you in the third person in your presence — I did not expect you to be offended.
                  In general, I just continued your humor.
                  I repeat, I didn’t want to hurt you or offend you.

                  Usually, if I run into someone, I make it clear to the person that I think about him and leave no room for doubt.

                  You got someone minus rolled in, it's not mine. :)))
                  Just in case, I neutralize it with a plus. :)))
                  And don't be offended so fast, okay? You can easily make a mistake ... as in this case. :)))
                  1. Tatarus
                    Tatarus 16 November 2013 19: 30
                    +1
                    Yes, I was not offended. I just do not understand. It does not matter. good

                    Just a minus flew in and I did not understand on the fly. That's all
                    1. smile
                      smile 16 November 2013 20: 48
                      +1
                      Tatarus
                      I am glad that mutual understanding has been restored. :))))
              2. igor67
                igor67 16 November 2013 17: 58
                +7
                Quote: smile
                igor67
                no-no-no, don’t listen to him, he will teach you bad things. :))) Stay as you are :))) But the flags ... Allah .. with them, with flags. Sometimes you read your comments and it seems that you are my colleague or neighbor. And sometimes under our flag sits such rot ... that it becomes insulting for ours. So I would have changed you ... by a dozen of the above :)))

                Thank you Vladimir, maybe we and colleagues, I’m a simple worker laughing in the factory, son husband and father. Good luck
                1. Day 11
                  Day 11 16 November 2013 18: 46
                  +4
                  Hello Igor. I confirm the words;) Igor is a great man!
                  1. igor67
                    igor67 16 November 2013 19: 27
                    +3
                    Quote: Den 11
                    Hello Igor. I confirm the words;) Igor is a great man!

                    Hi Denis, thanks
                2. smile
                  smile 16 November 2013 18: 55
                  +2
                  igor67
                  We are colleagues in the spirit, it is much more important than our professional activities. :)))
              3. SSR
                SSR 16 November 2013 22: 11
                +4
                Smile I agree with you, Igor differs from others at least in that he does not answer the question with a question and does not bother.
              4. sasska
                sasska 17 November 2013 21: 48
                +1
                "I would have changed you ... for a dozen of the above :)))"

                and why the heck do you have such a collection? smile
            2. Tatarus
              Tatarus 16 November 2013 17: 46
              +3
              drinks That’s how you can do more.
              1. igor67
                igor67 16 November 2013 17: 59
                +3
                Quote: Tatarus
                drinks That’s how you can do more.

                Yes. Of course, it’s better, I’ve already rolled 250 grams, I’m silent about yesterday wassat
                1. Tatarus
                  Tatarus 16 November 2013 18: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: igor67
                  I am silent about yesterday


                  Silence because you don’t remember, or because you still don’t knit a bast laughing
          2. igor67
            igor67 16 November 2013 17: 44
            +1
            . I remembered the name, but for some reason I forgot to mention in the commercial that these guys work only for big dollars, so in the first and third series it is constantly mentioned
            1. waisson
              waisson 16 November 2013 19: 44
              0
              a film on ... r ... about life in a different way you litter your brains who came into contact with this knows another
    2. Alexei
      Alexei 16 November 2013 16: 47
      +2
      Quote: EdwardTich68
      There are no words

      Could not write further. Volunteers do not need money. But the Rassian (why not Russian?) Intelligence agencies need to figure out what the hell is going on and who the hell is behind it. There is no time for them to think, but you think.
    3. smile
      smile 16 November 2013 17: 17
      +7
      EdwardTich68
      You have one, but fiery feeling - Russophobia. implicated in hatred of "this country" .. It is noticeable in your comments. And this allows you to either be indignant at the behavior of Russia, which supports Syria, or to say that we support it only so that Putin would pump oil into his pocket :))), then it raises that democratic morality is right, and Assad is not so good. :)))
      I repeat, you have one principle — unscrupulousness, one passion — Russophobia, one gyrus. and even that ... well, and you had no conscience - you probably ran away from you in early childhood, being baptized and spitting over your shoulder ... :)))
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 16 November 2013 19: 48
        +4
        Quote: smile
        fiery feeling - Russophobia

        No. Russophobia. RUSO "FOBIA". The word phobia comes from the Greek "phobos" - fear. Fear is never fiery. Low, vicious, overwhelming ... ets
        Judging by the vocabulary, "EdwardTich68" is some kind of "well-wisher-trainee" who is developing the practice of using the Russian language in dialogue. In this case, as they say: a flag in his hands (naturally American) and three feathers in the z..tsu.
        So it looks like I decoded the application by you ":)))".
        1. smile
          smile 16 November 2013 21: 09
          +7
          11111mail.ru

          Dear 11111mail.ru, thank you for explaining to me the etymology of the word "Russophobia" and translating the word "phobos" from Greek. :)))
          For the first time this was done by Aunt Faya (Faina Efstafievna) - my teacher in the extended class of commercials in the third ... I don’t remember exactly ... but I am grateful to you anyway. Very. :)))

          As for EdwardTich68, I, perhaps, partially disagree with you - he is clearly Russian-speaking. I did not notice any signs that the guy was developing practice, the vocabulary is clearly above average .... the friend is clearly of domestic production ... just m ... to ... :)))
          Therefore, I agree unconditionally with your proposal to decorate his aphron with a bouquet of stuck feathers. A male chicken must have a rich tail, isn't it? :)))
          I repeat my gratitude for the decryption. And I want to note - to be friends is better than swearing, right?
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 17 November 2013 13: 45
            0
            Quote: smile
            making friends is better than swearing, right?

            Obviously, that’s not always likely. Here we all have our own opinion, and our opponents.
        2. EdwardTich68
          EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 23: 14
          -8
          I don’t want, I don’t want, it hurts you, calm down already meager, don't get in touch
          1. sasska
            sasska 17 November 2013 21: 58
            +3
            just a question
    4. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 16 November 2013 19: 29
      +4
      Quote: EdwardTich68
      There are no words to convey my feelings

      About the same sensuality sounds in your earlier comments. There, you had an American badge next to your alias (two weeks ago = two weeks ago in your native language). Infiltrated the "swamp underground"?
      Quote: EdwardTich68
      Think it over

      Right! It is necessary to think, and it’s good when it becomes a habit!
      1. smile
        smile 16 November 2013 21: 12
        +1
        11111mail.ru
        I could not limit myself to a plus sign, I had to write a comment :))) Smartly short and aptly.
  5. creak
    creak 16 November 2013 15: 44
    +3
    It is a pity that the professionals were not in demand at home ... And how many of our fighters in recent years enrolled in the Foreign Legion ....
    1. waisson
      waisson 16 November 2013 19: 50
      0
      I’m sorry I’ve been old and served in the USSR, otherwise I would have been there for a long time and I advise you that we only have the Airborne Forces-Special Forces BB-and the rest of the boys are in the kindergarten group
      1. sergaivenski
        sergaivenski 17 November 2013 17: 54
        0
        A tragedy occurred in our regiment in the early spring of 1981.
        attire guard uz battery ATGM. For some reason, one of the sentries jerked the automatic shutter,
        I joined the bayonet-knife to the machine, laid out the folding butt of the machine. So went the whole shift.
        The distributor, bringing the change to the post, did not guess to approach the violator of the Charter, to force
        to open the magazine with cartridges from the machine gun, to turn the shutter. Whether accidentally, or for some other reason, the violator of the Charter pulled the trigger. A shot was fired.
        The bullet hit the shiftman in the side, passing right through. The poor man suffered in a military hospital until the next morning and died. Personally, after that I decided: “When I go to the demobilization, I will never take a weapon in my hands!
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 17 November 2013 00: 41
      +3
      Quote: ranger
      . And how many of our fighters in recent years enrolled in the Foreign Legion ....


      Is it to the paddles or something? After the revolution, there were many Russians, and now they haven’t taken crime for 30 years now, they mainly rely on nationalists, and what Russian is the Nazi from?
  6. alone
    alone 16 November 2013 15: 45
    +7
    all right. The appearance of the Russian mercenaries does not promise anything good. On the contrary, such actions harm the Russian Foreign Ministry first and foremost. We all remember how hard it was that the West refused to strike.
    1. waisson
      waisson 16 November 2013 19: 54
      +2
      how the Russians appeared so they harm, and the fact that the Caucasus Azerbaijanis-Dagi-Chechens and many other Caucasians are fighting against the current regime is good we are silent AMERICA POLICY
      1. alone
        alone 16 November 2013 23: 29
        +3
        Quote: waisson
        how the Russians appeared so they harm, and the fact that the Caucasus Azerbaijanis-Dagi-Chechens and many other Caucasians are fighting against the current regime is good we are silent AMERICA POLICY


        You do not know the essence of Wahhabism. That's why you wrote this commentary. The thing is that ours, Dagestanis, Chechens and other Caucasians who are fighting in Syria are no longer considered who they are. Wahhabism rejects all national division. These people are considered "true Muslims, fighting in the name of pure Islam. "In general, they are fighting for their delusional ideas. And the Russians are fighting there for a specific amount.

        so that those that others fall under one boiler-mercenaries.
  7. DOMINO
    DOMINO 16 November 2013 15: 55
    10
    some kind of hat ... sad I did not even understand - the reader is invited to sympathize with "our mercenaries" that they did not receive money or what? to be honest, the Russians did not stop fighting for money, like the Americans, Europeans, and Arabs. somehow it does not fit with the rooted image of our soldiers ... We have always fought with some idea, mission. So they were strong. Right, wrong is another question. but so that for the loot, this is already some kind of new trends. Riding with an empty head, killing, at whom some uncle-barefoot points with a finger, and then straight to the cash register for the calculation or to the coffin is a dubious activity. In this case, the results are natural, they got off easy. negative
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 16 November 2013 17: 03
      0
      Quote: DOMINO
      I didn't even understand - the reader is invited to sympathize with "our mercenaries" that they did not receive money or what?

      I don’t get it either. Apparently sympathize, we went for money and adrenaline, but it turned out for the idea, if it turned out at all ...
    2. sergaivenski
      sergaivenski 17 November 2013 18: 04
      0
      Domino, Good evening !!! I completely agree with you. The experience of our soldiers is always and everywhere in demand. But one thing when fighting for a certain idea is a completely different thing when
      I was hired to kill for dollars and euros, but nothing in my head, just an emptiness !!! If the mercenaries from RUSSIA were simply taken and shot, no one would make any noise, except for relatives
      vennikov !!!
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  9. FormerMariman
    FormerMariman 16 November 2013 16: 19
    +3
    The key question! Who finances and where does the money come from?
    1. alone
      alone 16 November 2013 16: 47
      +2
      Quote: Former Mariman
      The key question! Who finances and where does the money come from?


      From there! ”Answered Semyon Semenych Gorbunkov, with closed drunk eyes !! laughing
  10. Al shahini
    Al shahini 16 November 2013 16: 22
    +4
    Private military companies were invented by ami to disguise their covert operations and operate under the control of the US government.
    Whether we need PMCs is another question. PMCs in a country of any kind, and with an unstable situation, all the more, is a time bomb. Do not know where. when and under whom it will explode.
  11. Troy
    Troy 16 November 2013 16: 28
    +9
    Nehru poke his nose there. where your dog didn’t dump! Rusichi and suddenly fight for the loot is not known for whom, where it is seen! Unfortunately, the times of Spain and the struggle for the idea have passed. I understand that our worthless politicians don’t care about our specialists and they don’t care about their fate, they attach a fagot to Serdyukov, so how the hell knows where to go if it’s better by contract, though not for such a lot of money.
    1. serg83
      serg83 16 November 2013 16: 39
      +5
      Troy. Imagine such a situation. There are people who fiercely hate Wahhabi alikayedovskoy trash, they went through such hot spots as the North Caucasus, someone may have found another Afghan. And then they have the opportunity to go to urinate these freaks outside of Russia, while taking into account these actively traveled to Chechnya during the war there and they already encountered them there. And at the same time they still have the opportunity to earn money for it. Now answer me if they have a desire why they did not have to go?
      1. Troy
        Troy 16 November 2013 16: 43
        +5
        This is if you know where and to whom you are going, and from the article it follows that it is not known for whom and it is not known under what command. I would understand if the Syrian authorities asked for help and they went as specialists to help the Syrian army, but it’s not clear. Just cut the dough?
        1. serg83
          serg83 16 November 2013 16: 51
          0
          Well, I think that they were going to fight for the Assad they knew from the beginning. And who his opponents also know ...
      2. sq
        sq 16 November 2013 18: 18
        +2
        It is unclear who they hated there that only grandmothers loved - this is clear as God's day. They fumbled like rams to look for light bread, even cheaply got off.
      3. 31231
        31231 16 November 2013 19: 04
        +2
        Now answer me if they have a desire why they did not have to go?


        And why, then, these "ideological" ones were so quickly blown away at Sukhnaya? Piled up without loss.
  12. Volkhov
    Volkhov 16 November 2013 16: 34
    10
    What is typical - those who tried to fight for Assad were detained by the FSB, and thousands of those fighting against the SAA are not caught in any way ... only statements "according to our information, 400 are there."
    1. Troy
      Troy 16 November 2013 16: 39
      +1
      I agree! Something about Muslim mercenaries, things are not moving. Maybe they hope that everyone will be beaten there.
      1. smile
        smile 16 November 2013 17: 29
        +6
        Troy
        Imagine. You are that person. what makes the decision is to take a mercenary. let's say Tatar. or not.
        You have at your disposal information obtained with the help of agents or in any other way, that the comrade is going to fight. You don’t attach it to the case — you cannot use it as evidence in court — it is not permissible. you will not decrypt the source, otherwise you will have to look for a new one.
        Bottom line - you do not have ANYTHING on it, on the basis of which you could at least detain him. for illegal arrest you yourself will be sent on a free flight, poking around in the garden. So what are you going to do?

        It’s easy to yell like that - MUCH! And turning on your head is very difficult ... sorry, but insulting our special services only on the basis of your illiteracy is not good ....
        And a friend legally takes a ticket to Turkey and goes to rest ... in a training camp. where training, weapons and formation of detachments take place ... and you know that, but you simply don’t have evidence ... like that.

        Please think, and then be indignant.
        1. family tree
          family tree 16 November 2013 18: 57
          +2
          Quote: smile
          Bottom line - you do not have ANYTHING on it, on the basis of which you could at least detain him. for illegal arrest you yourself will be sent on a free flight, poking around in the garden. So what are you going to do?

          You need to "go missing", "overdose", or "drink to death" wassat
          1. smile
            smile 16 November 2013 20: 00
            +4
            family tree
            On the one hand, you seem to be right ... and I do not mind ... but on the other hand, I will now say uninteresting things, but I think the right ones.
            So.
            1. Liquidation orders are issued at a very high level. And they must be, otherwise some may thunder on the bunk for the performance of their duty.
            And making such decisions is not in the competence of those involved in bringing criminals to justice.
            If we assume otherwise, it will be a bloody mess, a sea of ​​opportunities for abuse, a slide to death squads and, in the end, the collapse of the rule of law and the loss of the moral right of those who lead the country to fulfill their duties.
            If they change the law, for God's sake. but for now it is what it is. And you can’t break the laws. To nobody.
            This is my deep conviction.

            2.This individual is a citizen of the Russian Federation, possessing all the inalienable rights of a citizen. Even illegal detention is an extraordinary crime, for which, in my opinion, it is necessary to punish mercilessly. And if to relate to the deprivation of life ....
            I admit the elimination of certain comrades dangerous to society ... but this should be an extraordinary phenomenon and only with respect to persons who have earned capital punishment.
            And in the actions of the individual we are considering, the crime will only be when he commits a crime, engages in mercenarism .... not a minute earlier ... prevention is another matter - lawful detention on suspicion with subsequent release, moral pressure in the form of conversations and attempts to recruit , control ... but kill ... no, I am against.

            It is possible to destroy only in extreme cases, when there is no other way to prevent grave consequences.

            You can now stigmatize me as soft-bodied, but it’s easy to kill. it’s even easier to get used to doing it. But it’s hard to comply with the laws. but you have to. To everyone.
            1. family tree
              family tree 18 November 2013 00: 13
              +1
              Quote: smile
              On the one hand, you seem to be right ... and I do not mind ... but on the other hand, I will now say uninteresting things, but I think the right ones.

              Yes, in general, it is up to date. Just if the evidence and evidence is full of boxes, but you can’t use it in order not to drain the source, or for another reason? Track, after returning, until he does? And then the court, the prosecutor, the lawyer, and there, how will it turn out? So it’s like a war is going on what or does not go? A jihadist is a citizen of the Russian Federation, and a Vlasovist is a citizen of the USSR? For example, they believe that war is because, for them, jihad is a holy war with infidels, and they don’t know otherwise. But in the war, there are no right and guilty, there are also enemies. If it is proved that he is an enemy, why drag him to court? So it turns out, on the one hand, they are fighting crime, and on the other, they are just fighting. Who will lose?
              zs Well, okay, figs with him, but at least to capture and send to remove snow in the tundra wassat
        2. AlNikolaich
          AlNikolaich 16 November 2013 19: 19
          0
          Quote: smile
          And a friend legally takes a ticket to Turkey and goes to rest ... in a training camp. where training, weapons and formation of detachments take place ... and you know that, but you simply don’t have evidence ... like that.

          A photo and video from the training camp problem to get? For professionals, then ...
          Or was the frank confession canceled suddenly? "There would be a man, but there is an article" (c).
          1. smile
            smile 16 November 2013 20: 22
            +4
            AlNikolaich
            A fair comment. I answer.
            1. The photo in the training camp is not direct evidence of mercenary activity - only indirect, indicating that the subject was trained. In court does not fail.
            2. The court must also investigate the circumstances of obtaining this evidence. That is, either you put your source under the knife, or sign that you found (even if you removed the flash drive from the corpse of our militant, for example, in Dagestan) just a photo of just a person just in camouflage with a Kalash that he was given to hold in his hands. ... where is the crime? These photos are only important as operational information ... in court any lawyer will laugh at you with such a picture ... and he will be right. This evidence does not meet the "admissibility" criterion under our Criminal Procedure Code.

            3. And the phrase would be a man, and the article would certainly be very beautiful ... but we all here sometimes criticize the bucket ... well, they say, crooks and thieves ... but what? It's better? We suggest violating your own laws (in this case, the CPC) ...

            I repeat, it’s easy to break laws, it’s even easier to get used to it if you have power.
            But you try to comply with them. When you start to violate them, knowing that it is easier to achieve justice, you will not notice how you turn into a Dragon ... you turn into an American, authorizing the highest level of torture, straight. like the Nazis, secret prisons in which they throw those whose guilt cannot be proved and who sow death by walking, wherever the foot has set foot ...
            Something like that...:)))
          2. smile
            smile 16 November 2013 23: 30
            +3
            AlNikolaich
            By the way, I’ll supplement it, even Vyshinsky stated that the testimony of the defendant did not prevail over other evidence (he said otherwise, rude, but this is not important) ... sincere confession can only help to find other evidence. By itself, without confirmation by other case materials. it costs nothing ... in general, what then, what now. Take my word for it. And if the case is fabricated. then they fabricate other evidence besides recognition, which is quite easy to achieve, with almost everyone ...
      2. poquello
        poquello 17 November 2013 00: 12
        +3
        Quote: Troy
        I agree! Something about Muslim mercenaries, things are not moving. Maybe they hope that everyone will be beaten there.

        What do you agree with? A month earlier, I posted news about how to take returnees from Syrian militants.
        If you don’t see it, it doesn’t mean that it isn’t.
    2. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 16 November 2013 19: 14
      -2
      Quote: Volkhov
      What is typical - those who tried to fight for Assad were detained by the FSB, and thousands of those fighting against the SAA are not caught in any way ... only statements "according to our information, 400 are there."

      And it is not strange, recently the FSB abbreviation often coexists with venality and betrayal. Recall Alexander Litvinenko, Philip Bobkov and others ...
      And in this adventure, the FSB polkan is involved ... And on the other hand, the faces are perishing on the defense of the Homeland by S.K.
      Maybe the structure needs cleaning ????
      1. smile
        smile 16 November 2013 20: 37
        +7
        AlNikolaich
        Well, what are you saying? Do you need to spread the list of traitors from the KGB? But you yourself forgot about it, having entered into a rage of revelation?

        How many purges and reforms are possible? Only the office worked quietly, and then, until the end did not recover and did not completely outlive the legacy of elbonization, no, AlNikolaich appears and demands the continuation of the banquet of the nineties ....

        Mlllya, let’s do your home repairs every six months, and wipe the pug from the lime to cry, why can’t you live in an apartment?

        And the FSB associates with corruption only those who long for it. There are no other reasons besides such a desire.
        Sorry, but wish women better than sensations and revelations .... there will be more benefits ... for everyone ...
        1. AlNikolaich
          AlNikolaich 16 November 2013 20: 58
          +3
          I can comment!
          Quote: smile
          Only the office worked quietly, and then, until the end didn’t recover and did not completely outlive the legacy of elbonization, no, AlNikolaich appears and demands the continuation of the banquet of the nineties ....

          The office should not work calmly but effectively! And in general WORK!
          And I do not demand continuation of the banquet of the 90's!
          Recently, only the affairs of Khabarov and Kvachkov are worthwhile on the work of bodies ...
          According to one face opera (I can’t vouch for verbatim, drank in the company) -We know everything, but they didn’t give us go-ahead ...
          In short, we have to work, and they are waiting for the go-ahead!
          Sokolov and Asiyalov- waited for the go-ahead before the attack ... I think there are enough examples?

          Regarding the repair in the apartment, just like in the authorities. I want to make repairs for three years, but it does not grow together. Come help!
          And about women ... I don’t have a girlfriend. Sadness sad Her wife doesn’t allow me to make me! belay
          1. smile
            smile 16 November 2013 22: 53
            +6
            AlNikolaich
            Answer.
            1. Work effectively can only be in a relaxed atmosphere. When frames do not peretrahivayut. And the cleaning of the ranks is ongoing and effective enough - sorry that this is not reported to Moscow Komsomolets.

            2. I do not want to comment on Khabarov’s case. According to Kvachkov, I’ll say the following — they used the old honored uncle .... to imprison him, of course, it wasn’t worth it, but his statement that he was preparing people to organize a guerrilla war against the NATO invaders ... I leave it up to you ... these are his words , not mine ... do you need to comment?
            Uncle was going to grab a weapon ... whom was he going to kill at the same time? Those who, being faithful to the oath, would defend their country from bloody chaos? Boys from VV?
            The funny thing is that it was the liberal media that most of all stamped on the subject of Kvachkov. They thus proved their patriotism. :)))
            Uncle had to stop. Otherwise, there would be corpses. The corpses of the innocent. But Chubais was not proved to him.
            If he stayed on it, I would be in solidarity with you ... and no. These are not spools, this is the willingness to kill. The first who would rejoice at Kvachkov’s success in this field are bearded. They would have supported the civil war with all their might, therefore, excuse me, your reasoning is the reasoning of the average person who does not understand that everything is serious.

            3.Your face is right. There is no go-ahead. There is no go-ahead to act outside the law. Until martial law has been introduced, they are bound by the framework of the CPC. Although all emergency measures worked out. And it is right. All government bodies must obey the laws of the Russian Federation. Change, please. In the meantime, no one has canceled the proof of guilt. And no one can be held accountable without proving his guilt.
            We have this principle, as in all other countries (though in many countries it is much worse), as in the days of the USSR it is violated. Under the USSR, there were fewer violations. But this is not a reason to abandon the principle itself.

            4. Forgive me for mentioning "love for women" - those were my emotions :))) I am glad that you are doing well in your personal life. :))) And in general, I like your sense of humor ... at this moment. :)))
            And repair is daaaaaa .... I have my own house ... quite young .... but he got me so that I constantly have to repair it .... here and there ... therefore, help you I’m unlikely to be able to, at the very gunpowder it does not ring. :))))
            1. AlNikolaich
              AlNikolaich 17 November 2013 00: 22
              +1
              smile!
              Here I agree with you!
              But still, not so in the system.
              Repair the house. drinks
              1. smile
                smile 17 November 2013 01: 01
                +4
                AlNikolaich

                So repairing ... where to go then ... I even in it my floors .... :)))

                And the fact that there are drawbacks in the System, I agree.
                The personnel moment is very relevant, the motivation of l \ s has become somewhat different than before, and not quite as we would like, a drop in the level of professionalism is also present.
                In general, much has been lost.
                But, nevertheless, it is not necessary to water the System with mud; there are enough worthy and dedicated men there.
  13. Tatarus
    Tatarus 16 November 2013 16: 41
    +4
    Quote: Volkhov
    What is typical - those who tried to fight for Assad were detained by the FSB, and thousands of those fighting against the SAA are not caught in any way ... only statements "according to our information, 400 are there."


    So these then returned, and those there so far. So they are waiting at home, waiting. Red paths gather dust, flowers wither, stale bread ... handcuffs rust.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 16 November 2013 18: 07
      -6
      In Belarus, hospitals are full of jihadists, the dead are brought to Chechnya not by mail, but with escort - only flowers and red carpet, bread is given in a jar.
      1. Jogan-xnumx
        Jogan-xnumx 16 November 2013 23: 53
        +5
        Quote: Volkhov
        In Belarus, hospitals are full of jihadists ...

        And where did the firewood come from? request And then I’ll tell everyone about your cache with self-propelled guns in the shed of your second cousin ... laughing
        1. smile
          smile 17 November 2013 00: 19
          +4
          Jogan-xnumx
          Do not touch the guy, otherwise he will tell you about the Nazi bases in the Gulf of Bothnia, from which they control the world they defeated. about the use by the fascists of nuclear weapons in Sevastopol, about the ancient gods killed by meteorites and much more about that .... :))))
          And I do not jerk, these are the beliefs of Volkhov, which he sometimes promotes. So evaluate the degree of reliability of his words ....

          Volkhov, you won’t let me lie, I didn’t screw anything, right? :))))
          1. Volkhov
            Volkhov 17 November 2013 01: 26
            -1
            Quote: smile
            Volkhov, you will not let me lie

            I was worried about you, after the previous answer, you disappeared from the site for more than a day ...
            Quote: smile
            I am not able to not only remember, but even realize the basic tenets of his theory ...

            Quote: smile
            beaten by comets of the ancient gods, the embodiment of evil Suvorov and the fascist bases from which they now operate
            Not able to realize ... but active in the discussion.
            The forum, in the initial sense, is a platform where serious competent people gathered and discussed very real and vital issues, while the data was checked - this is one of the foundations of society. For comedies and rhetoric there were amphitheaters, if with wine - terms (baths). It has worked for hundreds and thousands of years.
            The addition of clowns to any meeting disrupts it - this is a political struggle (clackers), and since you use this, you are a political opponent of society (an enemy of the people) who cannot use arguments because of the knowingly false nature of their position and defend the interests of another ( secret) society by means of rhetoric and pop music.
            In your case, everything is simple - you are a Stalinist (supposedly) hereditary security officer and patriot ... having realized the enemy of the people in yourself, treat him like your ancestors did with the enemies of the people bully.

            The Nazi base at the last NATO exercises was called the "Republic of Botnia", on the previous ones they lost an aircraft, and not only NATO but also a brigade in Pechenga studied ... in Sevastopol there are objective traces, from the Gods - buildings and "atomic shadows" on the rocks ... if not convincing then there is nothing to be done.
            Jihadists in Belarus officially come from Libya and are treated for a fee as Libyans ... too lazy to pick up old articles.
            You are a strong person - in just a day you won your conscience ... but maybe she became a partisan?
            1. smile
              smile 17 November 2013 12: 49
              0
              Volkhov
              Do not worry about me. I told you earlier - The charter of my secret society does not allow me to end my life by suicide. :))) But I am a disciplined guy.

              Your phrase- "You are a strong man - in just a day you won conscience ... but maybe she became a partisan?" just a masterpiece! Can I plagiarize her? Perhaps your best statement that I have read. Thanks! :)))

              And partisanship is possible only with the support of the local population, therefore, even if your assumption is true, then still my mortal body supports my conscience ... secretly. :)))
          2. Jogan-xnumx
            Jogan-xnumx 17 November 2013 03: 07
            +1
            Quote: smile
            ... he will tell you about the Nazi bases in the Gulf of Bothnia, from which they control the world they defeated. about the use by the fascists of nuclear weapons in Sevastopol, about the ancient gods killed by meteorites ...

            Damn it !!! This is how he, poor fellow, twisted fate? The comrade was covered with something extraordinary. And more than once ... request
            1. smile
              smile 17 November 2013 15: 49
              0
              Jogan-xnumx
              But he is a very interesting and extraordinary person. Sometimes, as it is said, the ajnik is breathtaking. :)))
  14. Genur
    Genur 16 November 2013 16: 48
    -2
    It's bad when naivety and greed determine actions. It is even worse when the same FSB hits the tails. And who needs IT - it is clear: the so-called. "world government". People, be careful.
  15. Day 11
    Day 11 16 November 2013 17: 22
    +8
    "Author" stupidly reposted the article from www.fontanka.ru/2013/11/14/060/. Photo from the same series
  16. Day 11
    Day 11 16 November 2013 17: 25
    +3
    The same Syrian business trip
  17. catapractic
    catapractic 16 November 2013 17: 38
    +5
    she’s a gamble in Africa (sorry in Syria)
  18. Kirzhak
    Kirzhak 16 November 2013 17: 51
    +4
    The article is, so to speak, entertaining. The comments are even more interesting. Opinions look divided. 99.9% of those present support Assad in his war against the Islamist rabble. But, if the Russians fight on the side of Assad for money, will they? and if it's free - then the heroes? Do you think that in Dagestan, for example, young people go to the mountains just for an idea? I myself always tell my Chief (When he wants to strain me with all sorts of household work): "Any work should be paid for!"
  19. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 16 November 2013 17: 58
    +2
    -Comrade Dembel! - And when will they feed? - Never - it's the army! fellow
  20. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 18: 02
    -3
    It is clear that there is enough and the IRGC was not worth refusing the help of honest people.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 16 November 2013 19: 53
      -1
      Quote: EdwardTich68
      did not refuse to help honest people

      You speak the truth!
  21. soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 16 November 2013 18: 05
    +7
    somewhere they went along some road, in some burning city they got stuck in, the Cossacks left too stuck, in general, not specialists but a kindergarten, they don’t know anything with anyone, they know that they were covered by a sandstorm and from someone there it was them saved where is intelligence? some kind of nonsense and not specialists scored drunks in the corners, or maybe none of this was
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 16 November 2013 18: 09
      +2
      I say the setup for Russia was being prepared.
    2. Day 11
      Day 11 16 November 2013 18: 54
      +5
      Yes it was, it was. On jihadist sites demonstrated documents in the name of Alexei Malyuta
    3. Plato
      Plato 17 November 2013 14: 24
      +1
      Precisely noticed !!!
      Then a rumor reached me that several people traveled to Syria. From some party. There were not a few hundred, but barely recruited a couple of dozen people.
      Among them, for the most part, as far as I can tell from the information that reached me, there were several people who served in the army, but for the most part, young romantic enthusiasts. But such and such could well believe in any crap and get into a frank ass.
      Judging by the article itself, they collected episodes from articles about Cossacks who fought in Bosnia, a little from memories of Karabakh (something familiar came across about the repair of tanks and their subsequent selection, although such episodes are often found in every war). They added fantasies and exaggerated - this also applies to the number of those who have been there, and the open conversation about $ 4 million between a Syrian and a Russian representative of the company in front of the whole crowd. Hearing these "tough guys" who allegedly fought in the Caucasus and even in Afghanistan did not immediately ask harshly about payments ?! Well, the author of the article amused !!! In the best case, this representative would hang upside down for a couple of hours and in this position would have to call the company and ask for urgent payment of the debt.
      And the fact that they were transferred as much as 500 kilometers from the base ...
      What intelligent person would think of dragging such people across half the country of warring everywhere?
      Certainly, the author is a writer who heard a jingle about the trip, but was able to, here I must admit, to spread this lies to the whole country.
    4. 1488sapsan
      1488sapsan 28 November 2013 00: 00
      0
      THE COSSACKS IN THE SLAVIC CASE IN SYRIA did what the FSB did in the Caucasus, and if you don’t know then don’t blather the soldier’s grandson ...................
  22. Ascetic
    Ascetic 16 November 2013 18: 21
    +4
    This is what the bearded men showed about the "murder" of Malyuta, a citizen of the Russian Federation from the Krasnodar Territory
    Alexey Nikolaevich. His photo with a weapon.



    Mercenary contract





    Identity from the "firm"

    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 16 November 2013 18: 51
      19
      And now, as they say, a question for Connoisseurs. Why do passports in Russia have a four-digit series and a six-digit number and Malyuta has a "contract" in the requisites section Passport number 6 series 64? Why was the passport issued at the age of 1653863? Probably sitting on a youngster in transit to an adult and was released in 20. We compare the passport data of the number at the top of the contract with the requisites and quietly go nuts ... We also go nuts in bewilderment from the phrase the passport is valid until 2010. That at 2018 years old you need to change your passport?
      In general, the entire article as well as PMCs with a certain Malyuta golem fake and divorce.
      Think for yourself. Decide for yourself ...
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 16 November 2013 19: 15
        +3
        Yes x knows. The site seems to exist http://slavcorps.org/ru/ It is clear that to blind such a trifling matter
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 16 November 2013 21: 52
          +4
          Quote: Den 11
          .Site seems to exist http://slavcorps.org/en/


          On normal sites that offer any services in addition to contact phones, there are legal details.addresses of offices.licenses, e-mail at last. And here are some phones, a typical sign of a fraudulent site. Obvious things.
      2. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 16 November 2013 19: 56
        +2
        Legally! +. Removes at least 50% of the questions.
      3. poquello
        poquello 17 November 2013 00: 41
        +3
        I came across an advertisement for the case.
        Yes, what won May
        http://stalin-ist.livejournal.com/508326.html
        and everyone there is happy (almost all) and Spain is remembered
  23. kundyshev
    kundyshev 16 November 2013 18: 57
    +6
    Something familiar theme ....... yes! A set of prostitutes to work over the hill under the specious excuse.
    for Real Men (Warriors) - a great deal of work at home !!!!! YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT YOUR HOUSE !!!!
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 16 November 2013 20: 05
      -4
      Man, where is your house? Is it in Dagestan?
  24. Day 11
    Day 11 16 November 2013 19: 00
    +5
    These are the warriors in Syria
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 16 November 2013 19: 58
      0
      Where is the droushka?
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 16 November 2013 20: 25
        +5
        If you tell me about the video, everything is from there (from the computer of this very Malyuta)
    2. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 16 November 2013 21: 04
      +7
      Quote: Den 11
      If you tell me about the video, everything is from there (from the computer of this very Malyuta)

      Something about the set of homeless people and drunks is becoming increasingly believable ...
      1. smile
        smile 16 November 2013 23: 43
        +3
        AlNikolaich
        And here I agree with you .... once there was such an expression, a declassed element ... without going into the meaning, it sounds like a curse word and is very suitable for the characteristics of these guys, who supposedly decided that our special services supervise their campaign. Still more telling about it now. :))))
      2. 1488sapsan
        1488sapsan 28 November 2013 00: 28
        -1
        HEARING ALK NIKOLAICH YOU WILL BUFFER YOURSELF WELL THE BAZAAR FILTER THE SKY AT YOURSELF THE POINT PLAYED THERE WOULD HIM.
  25. kmike
    kmike 16 November 2013 19: 05
    -3
    These are people without a flag and a homeland. And if one of them was banged there, then he is dear there. The war is not for the homeland, it is always a sin and a crime.
    1. waisson
      waisson 16 November 2013 20: 01
      -1
      son, how old are you, and if tomorrow’s war you’re either underground, into the forest, or on the side of the interventionists. YOU ARE A MOTHERLAND AND YOU ARE READY TO PROTECT IT
      1. 1488sapsan
        1488sapsan 28 November 2013 00: 31
        -1
        SUPPORT ....
    2. 1488sapsan
      1488sapsan 28 November 2013 00: 31
      -1
      HEAR A JUST-BASED FIRST KITCHEN HERO THEY HAVE DONE THAT THEY DID NOT DECIDE TO MAKE RUSSIA LANGUAGE GO YOURSELF .....
  26. starhina01
    starhina01 16 November 2013 19: 10
    +6
    people who are quite adults themselves should understand what risks they take .. but why the FSB was not interested in this scam from the very beginning? (Or were they aware?) In general, it’s clear that the matter is dark ... rs. nefig climb in trash hi
    1. smile
      smile 16 November 2013 23: 52
      +1
      starhina01
      Right. The FSB most likely slammed - it is not omnipotent. There is no reason to supervise and accompany such a madhouse - it makes no sense, and why then leave these clowns to their fate in Syria? Or did the prospective curator (or rather, the whole ... say, a group of curators, because such operations are not carried out alone) wanted a premature retirement without any payments? :))). I am convinced that our special services, any, have not inherited here.
  27. Pushkar
    Pushkar 16 November 2013 19: 10
    +7
    In the late 80s, he almost signed up in a similar way on the announcement "former officers are required for work associated with long-distance business trips." Together with another equally "smart" came to the address, but on the door a piece of paper "The recruitment of officers is over." Later it turned out that they hired in Karabakh, which side - I still don't know. The Lord saved us stupid ones.
  28. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 19: 52
    +3
    Quote: Tatarus
    Quote: igor67
    So the mercenary agrees with you, there cannot be volunteers fighting for an idea,


    Well what are you doing. sad I had to put an Israeli flag plus. laughing


    You see, it’s not at all scary lol
  29. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 16 November 2013 19: 54
    +4
    Without knowing the ford, do not poke your nose in the water.
    It’s one thing to go to the mercenaries where you were a military adviser, where you already participated in the database, etc., where you know the situation, language, customs, and it’s quite another thing to trust your life and freedom to the recruiter. You also need to know the law:
    359 Article. Mercenary
    [Criminal Code of the Russian Federation] [Chapter 34] [Article 359]
    1. The recruitment, training, financing or other material support of a mercenary, as well as its use in armed conflict or military operations -
    is punished by imprisonment for the term from four up to eight years with restriction of freedom for up to two years or without it.
    2. The same acts committed by a person using his official position or in relation to a minor -
    shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of seven to fifteen years with a fine of up to five hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to three years, or without it and with restriction of freedom for a term of one to two years, or without it .
    3. The participation of a mercenary in armed conflict or hostilities -
    shall be punished by imprisonment for a term of three to seven years with restriction of freedom for a term of up to one year, or without it.
    Note. A mercenary is a person who acts for the purpose of receiving material compensation and who is not a citizen of a state participating in an armed conflict or hostilities, who does not reside permanently in its territory, and who is not a person who is sent to perform official duties.

    The Yankees are not worried about anything, Obama has a peace prize.
  30. individual
    individual 16 November 2013 20: 49
    +4
    Interesting squiggle.
    We at the forum had previously considered the appeal of a Ukrainian retired colonel on the recruitment of volunteers to help B. Assad in Syria ...
    Opinions were different, but in order to stumble into such an adventurous adventure, where everyone was looking for his war game, but found a setup to become cannon fodder in a strange game.
    Thank God everything worked out.
  31. catapractic
    catapractic 16 November 2013 22: 26
    +2
    some farce rather than an operation, the idea was ruined
  32. Klibanophoros
    Klibanophoros 16 November 2013 22: 52
    +2
    And thank God that nothing happened, because the special services on the "other" side decided to use them as "bags" for provocation.
  33. samoletil18
    samoletil18 16 November 2013 23: 00
    +2
    Interesting: the Cossacks, apparently, on their own initiative formed a separate company. On the spot we figured out what was happening. It is like a Cossack inherent in natural wisdom and a sense of camaraderie. But where did their chieftains look? It could end very badly.
  34. qwert1707
    qwert1707 16 November 2013 23: 28
    +1
    Yeah ... some guys think that they will cherish and cherish and pay regularly ...
    Yes, only if at the first opportunity they throw in the French legion, then what to say for the "muddy office" and the Syrian brothers
    I think that they didn’t necessarily want to throw or substitute them ...
    It’s just possible, some Syrian official or wealthier, decided to squeeze the oil refinery out of the revolution ....
    Yes, and who in such a troubled time, his own pocket army is unnecessary?
  35. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 23: 53
    -2
    In future religious-national wars on the territory of the Russian Federation, it would not hurt the Russians to have an army
  36. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 17 November 2013 00: 19
    -3
    Civil war will still be whether you want it or not.
  37. Day 11
    Day 11 17 November 2013 01: 50
    0
    In addition to this article, http://konkretno.ru/analitic/62411-russkie-v-sirii.html
  38. Betahon
    Betahon 17 November 2013 05: 48
    0
    Pre-revolutionary and Soviet Russia has always been publicly or tacitly present in all world political cataclysms. As a rule, these were either Civil wars or armed conflicts with the participation of "colleagues" (as it is now customary to speak from the high Petersburg tribune): civil wars in Mexico and the Northern 13 United States (there was already a whole squadron there), uprisings led by Garibaldi ( Italy) and Castro-Che (Cuba), Boer (South Africa) and Yugoslavian wars, etc.
    Russia is a great country, standing on the oceans, lands, in space ... By God, this right is given to protect Orthodoxy and justice.
    However, we must not forget that it was always a confrontation against Great Britain, Anglo-Saxon influence!
  39. aleks222
    aleks222 17 November 2013 05: 57
    0
    Is Gusev not one of the politicians?
  40. saygon66
    saygon66 17 November 2013 11: 56
    0
    - The article is on time ... And then they began to prepare a summary for Moran ... though, regarding the protection of ships, but now we will see!
  41. shinobi
    shinobi 17 November 2013 12: 52
    0
    In the East, there’s nothing to do without Arabic knowledge at all, this is the first. In their wars, even more so. If you become a mercenary, be prepared to be thrown if you survive
  42. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov 17 November 2013 18: 18
    0
    In general, some kind of crap. Where is the FSB and other structures? What kind of news is this, some volunteers are going somewhere. Where is the intelligence, FSB and what kind of Russian security services are there? What, is it so difficult to pick up documents there or what to do there and see where anyone is doing what in Russia? Is it hard to find those who are fighting against the law, militants? Find these firms and liquidate them? What do you have in there for the mess?
    It’s clear that if this is some kind of secret operation, then no one should know about it at all, and should not even be published here. If this is a secret operation, no one should even know about it. And here are some militants, warriors without the government’s consent, it’s not legal how to understand it at all? Where do the special services look, what kind of fighters are the kits and pass through the border of some militants, do not know who are fighting, maybe even intentionally for the enemy? I don’t understand what’s difficult to find those who are fighting somewhere and meet on the border in Russia? Where do the special services look? What the hell knows what else?
  43. elenagromova
    elenagromova 18 November 2013 01: 01
    0
    It looks like a provocation.
    But if you really wanted to fight for a righteous cause - then thanks for the intention, but - disgrace, just disgrace for the way they fought.
    Real Russians are not at war.
    1. kavkasos stratotis
      kavkasos stratotis 20 November 2013 18: 14
      0
      So they didn’t fight - they were sent by convoy in pickups (without covering armored vehicles and aircraft) to go somewhere without knowing where. Well, on the way they were attacked by a band of bandits. Our mercenaries fought back and left the battlefield. That’s their whole war. It’s good that without the dead, but a few wounded. And another important point - after all, the guys were still not sure which side they were on. If there was a contract with the Syrian government - another thing - you already know for sure who you are fighting for. And here - it is not known for whose interests (such as for some oligarch it was necessary to win oil fields)
  44. Known who
    Known who 18 November 2013 04: 43
    +1
    Inside the country, it is necessary to create conditions under which it is not necessary to flee to another’s war. And when the government burdens their people and goes to work.
  45. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 November 2013 06: 08
    0
    Did you want to cut the dough? "Wild geese" they are "wild geese".
  46. Grup
    Grup 19 November 2013 20: 52
    -1
    Hey, you are botanists of Ineta, I’m watching you have nothing to do, here you are, (deleted by moderator..........). You get clever, discuss, you would listen to the tabloid less, and make quick conclusions. And even more so, discuss worthy people. Many guys went there for the family to earn money to feed their families. Many people have training and experience, I think you haven’t even dreamed of it. And you are dictated, only your envy. You are wedding generals, have seen enough of militants, and played a lot of action games. Sit at home and do not dare to discuss, learn to respect other people's work. And Guys !!! in Sakhno showed themselves excellently, and many of them have great respect !!!
    1. 1488sapsan
      1488sapsan 28 November 2013 00: 42
      -1
      good THANKS BROTHER AT LEAST YOU SUPPORTED. AT ALL WE ARE KNOWN
  47. Grup
    Grup 19 November 2013 20: 56
    0
    And the one who posted these photos, I think it is not on them. I set up my colleagues, betrayed (sold) them for a shit, to some kind of newspaper. My God sees everything, I think this will come back to him!
  48. kavkasos stratotis
    kavkasos stratotis 20 November 2013 18: 07
    -1
    But here on the site was a muddy advertisement for a set of volunteers in Syria: http://topwar.ru/28399-sozdaetsya-dobrovolcheskiy-korpus-dlya-napravleniya-v-sir
    iyu.html
  49. Alex Danilov
    Alex Danilov 28 November 2013 01: 18
    0
    Quote: Volkhov
    In Belarus, hospitals are full of jihadists, the dead are brought to Chechnya not by mail, but with escort - only flowers and red carpet, bread is given in a jar.

    Volkhov, you are a goat. Belarus is in the Collective Security Treaty Organization, KROR, TSe, with Russia and for Russia. Recently, "West 2013" was held together with Russia.
  50. 1488sapsan
    1488sapsan 28 November 2013 01: 39
    0
    IF RUSSIA HAVE HELPED SYRIA IN LIDA OF THE SLAVIC BODY, THE WAR HAS FINISHED IN SYRIA FASTER. THEN WASN'T HAPPENED WRESTLING FROM THE USA, ABOUT RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN THE SYRIAN CONFLICT.