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“We should focus not on the Soviet era as a whole, but on its quite specific period”

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“We should focus not on the Soviet era as a whole, but on its quite specific period”

The media are transmitting a statement by the head of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation, Sergei Ivanov, that the personnel policy has been destroyed and must be revived, drawing on Soviet experience.


How effective was the Soviet personnel policy? Which of the personnel traditions of the USSR should be revived now, and what is unacceptable in modern conditions? These questions are answered by well-known analyst Anatoly Wasserman.

Social elevators do not work without "social garbage chutes"

Personnel policy in different periods of development of the Soviet Union was very different. At that time, there was a lot of concern for social elevators, but, unfortunately, they did not always remember about “social garbage chutes”. Without them, the elevators do not work, because in those areas where they have to raise, there is no space left. The effective system of "garbage chutes" was only in the so-called Stalinist times, that is, from the middle of the 1930's to the middle of the 1950's. In these times, despite numerous legends, they were rarely arrested for failures, but they always and very carefully tried to remove people from positions they could not cope with.

This did not mean arrest. For example, the director of the Kirov factory Isaac Moiseyevich Zaltsman was appointed people's commissar of tank construction in 1942, since the Kirov factory was one of the country's main tank-building enterprises, and the famous tank town was formed largely based on the evacuated equipment of the Kirov factory. But, as it turned out, being a good director of the plant, Zaltsman did not pull the position of people's commissar, where it was necessary to coordinate the activities of dozens, and even hundreds of enterprises. It ended with the fact that after about six months or a year he was dismissed from the post, however, he was not returned to the post of director of the Kirov factory. There was already a man who coped well with his duties, but he was found the position of the head of another, quite large plant.

In Stalin's time, unwilling executives were fired.

This is a completely correct approach to business. This is the only way to overcome the action of Parkinson's law, according to which a person rises in a hierarchical system as long as he copes with his duties, sooner or later finding himself in a position he cannot cope with, but cannot return it to its former place, because it is already taken. As a result, he remains to sit on the post, where he does not cope! In Stalin's time, unsuccessful leaders were fired and tried to find a place that more or less corresponds to the former. This was done due to the fact that a lot of enterprises and organizations were created at that time, and it was possible to find suitable posts for competent people.

When the pace of construction of new enterprises slowed down a little, instead of looking for other ways of working for “social refuse chutes”, this problem was completely stopped. Our management hierarchy has fallen under the Parkinson law. This shows that it is necessary to focus not only on the Soviet era as a whole, but on its quite specific period. So the statement of the head of the presidential administration is correct, but far from complete. It will be necessary to concretely specify it in order not only to seek and promote people who are coping with their responsibilities, but also to free up places otherwise.
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  1. Ihrek
    Ihrek 16 November 2013 07: 17
    27
    And in our time, in order to become a director, you must have family or other ties, or pay.
    1. Canep
      Canep 16 November 2013 07: 31
      21
      Quote: Jamal
      or pay.

      Even this is unlikely to get through. In any case, in Kazakhstan. We do not need to "or pay", but "and pay".
      1. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 16 November 2013 08: 56
        -35 qualifying.
        Go about your business. And girls fuck. Cool job + buzz. I have 4boat-water guy-I have no problems with the "goats". On boats, I wrote that I won't let black people on board. Have your own stance - good luck guys!
        1. APES
          APES 16 November 2013 18: 38
          12
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          Go about your business - fuck girls


          why are you so? there are things much more interesting, but I think it will be difficult for you to understand.
          1. Reasonable, 2,3
            Reasonable, 2,3 17 November 2013 03: 01
            -8
            Yes, what are you saying? And when, about the Russian march, they screamed at the site, they all played it out. And you don’t have to teach me life, a scientist.
        2. smile
          smile 16 November 2013 21: 40
          10
          Reasonable, 2,3
          That is, as I understand it, are you brown?
          Interestingly, is it the effect of ultraviolet on you, or is it your natural color? ... :)))
          In principle, a decent color for people like you .... flies are very fond of. Well, what color, such and supporters. :)))
          Do you reveal black? By appearance? A litmus test? And then after all, some are so masked that only by passport you will understand the wrong nationality ... :)))

          I have nothing against driving vacationers ... quite a worthy occupation ... only a doubt arises ... whether it is possible to call a "water guy" one who cannot drown in principle ... well, you know, WHAT does not drown. ..this ... your color ... :))))
          1. Reasonable, 2,3
            Reasonable, 2,3 17 November 2013 03: 04
            -3
            And you. There is no business. Here and, together we won’t drown.
            1. smile
              smile 17 November 2013 13: 06
              +3
              Reasonable, 2,3
              Do not worry, I have an occupation that I consider my Business. And it is not worse than yours, in any way. It is not yet known which of us brings more benefits to society? :)))
              I just do not like fascists, to whom you are. judging by your statement, you bow. ... So that "do not sink" we will still be separate. :)))
        3. catapractic
          catapractic 16 November 2013 22: 45
          +9
          If you were reasonable, you didn’t write crap, they like silence, and Pontorez ends like Polonsky.
          1. Reasonable, 2,3
            Reasonable, 2,3 17 November 2013 03: 06
            -4
            And I do not care, die, after 3 years. I live to the fullest.
            1. catapractic
              catapractic 17 November 2013 12: 03
              +2
              who’s heartfelt for you for 3 years?
              1. Reasonable, 2,3
                Reasonable, 2,3 17 November 2013 13: 24
                -2
                You don’t know my situation. And I understood it in a rag. I figured out Kungaev. I look about many people who forgot about Budanov. And this is my commander + friend bl.
          2. Reasonable, 2,3
            Reasonable, 2,3 17 November 2013 04: 00
            0
            While scandal, they unite, think.
    2. Orik
      Orik 16 November 2013 09: 22
      +1
      Not everything is so neglected, the question is the director of what and where.
    3. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 16 November 2013 10: 38
      -29 qualifying.
      Again, the Jews teach us how to live .. I remember after their songs Russia almost drowned in blood! Wasserman sings sweetly .. feels where it is necessary to pick in the soul of Russian .. I don’t believe that .. Everyone plus And I put a minus ..
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 16 November 2013 12: 37
        -9
        And rightly minus one. Citizen Wasserman forgot about such a socialist concept of staffing as nomenclature. He fell into the cage and spins in managerial positions from the trust of the horn and hoof, to the bath and laundry plant through the Palace of Culture and the metallurgical plant.
        Citizen Putin adheres to these principles. Those who fell into his cage are not drowned. Taburetkin, Chubais and the long list.
        You are a plus. Wasserman minus. He does not serve the truth, but those who pay. In Odessa, he sings along with rich bandyukovichs from that region. So he sang, so he sang for Markov (not for political, for vulgarly material reasons. They put Markov in. Wasserman quieted down and slowly begins to wave his tail with a tail. What to take. A resident of the Jordan Valley, like the majority surrounded by Putin, Yanukovych.
        1. Alexander 1958
          Alexander 1958 16 November 2013 13: 47
          20
          Good afternoon! If, when appointing a post, you look, first of all, at nationality, this is primitive! Well, were the leaders of the USSR and Russia the Russian Gorbachev and Yeltsin and CHE?
          1. Nikolay D.
            Nikolay D. 16 November 2013 18: 37
            17
            Quote: Alexander 1958
            Well, were the leaders of the USSR and Russia the Russian Gorbachev and Yeltsin and CHE?


            In fact, there was a Georgian. Yes, it was such that after 60 years the bloody west yells, like a vampire in the sun, at his mention.
            1. True
              True 17 November 2013 10: 16
              +3
              Yes, the Georgians chopped.
          2. Siberian German
            Siberian German 17 November 2013 05: 27
            +1
            why do you think that they are Russian - the most Russian person carries the surname Krestovozdvizhenberg
      2. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 16 November 2013 12: 40
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: MIKHAN
        ..feels where you need to pick in the soul of Russian .. I don’t believe that .. Everyone plus And I put a minus ..

        I totally agree with you, only they have such a trick; - before one big lie they will tell the truth a hundred times - that's why their songs need to be very carefully filtered, otherwise it will again be like in 17: - "A sailor is running, a soldier is running and shooting on the move."
      3. KCC
        KCC 16 November 2013 13: 12
        42
        Wasserman is one of the few Jews who really loves Russia and what he says is almost always true. More to such Jews and Russian, too.
        1. Anper
          Anper 16 November 2013 16: 29
          -10 qualifying.
          Wasserman loves not Russia, but his current warm place, from where you can broadcast anything. What did he forget that the basis of Soviet society lay iron guarantees of social security - the right to education, treatment. labor and housing, in other words, the right to life? But he, a scoundrel, is silent about this, and palm off a seductive thought about the selective inheritance of the Soviet experience - he sends in a false direction the long-standing opinion of the majority.
          1. True
            True 17 November 2013 10: 19
            +1
            He reminds me of Leonov. I don’t like both;
        2. their
          their 16 November 2013 22: 16
          +6
          Wasserman is a decent Soviet Jew, but after I looked at his opinion on 9/11, my confidence in him shook. But on the whole, I would like to see such Jews in Russia, few of whom are known unfortunately
        3. Siberian German
          Siberian German 17 November 2013 05: 29
          +3
          one honest Jew will do little - but 1000 10000 100000, etc. honest Russians is what Russia needs
      4. Stinger
        Stinger 16 November 2013 17: 21
        +4
        And there are Mikhanes who have two opinions - mine and wrong.
      5. APES
        APES 16 November 2013 18: 35
        14
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Wasserman sings sweetly


        he says smart things, for example about:

        An effective system of "garbage chutes" was only in the so-called Stalinist times, that is, from the middle of the 1930's to the middle of the 1950's.


        In Russia now it’s not that the elevators do not work, not the worst, the worst is that there is a clear deficit with the chutes ........
        1. True
          True 17 November 2013 10: 22
          +2
          He says obvious things. Everyone knows about this problem. I can also say: it is necessary to steal less and develop production. Chatter.
        2. iConst
          iConst 18 November 2013 11: 21
          0
          Quote: APES
          he says smart things, for example about:

          And also:
          Wasserman advocates the abolition of pensions and believes that universal pension provision is one of the main sources of the demographic crisis. [23] [24].

          Anatoly Wasserman advocates the legalization of all types of drugs and psychotropic substances [30] [22]. Moreover, Wasserman supports the free sale of narcotic and psychotropic drugs in pharmacies without a prescription [31] [22]. He is convinced that it is necessary to decriminalize prostitution. [32]
          http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0
          %BD,_%D0%90%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D
          1%81%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

          All agree?
      6. Eugene
        Eugene 16 November 2013 19: 35
        18
        I have a bunch of Jewish acquaintances. Umnichki. There are probably all sorts of Berezovsky, I understand. I don’t know them. Not the same level. There are enough goats among the Slavs. No offense. International is strong.
        1. smile
          smile 16 November 2013 22: 15
          17
          Eugene
          I agree. They are the same as us, no worse, no better.
          So I imagined how I would feel if I were a Jew. MMMMMlya, yes, I would probably become a pathological Zionist if I were constantly told that I am a fiend of hell, enslaving a planet, which, however, does not have the right to vote ....
          Look, Wasserman is a Russian patriot such that a significant part of our compatriots are not good for him ...... but no, someone doesn’t like it, not that person’s genotype ....

          A question to those "patriots" who consider Wasserman unworthy because of their origin - why do you spit in your outstretched hand for a handshake? From stupidity, or do you want to shit yourself?
          And another question - many of those who have a Jewish question itching in the ass are fans of Stalin and the USSR - you forgot. What is the fundamental principle of socialist society is internationalism? Moreover, in the Russian Empire there were also elements of internationalism, xenophobia was not welcomed at the state level, which is why our ancestors built such a large country .... so where do you lead us, eptermite?

          I want to express my respect to our colleagues with Jewish identifying flags ....- This is the kind of endurance you need to have in order to not become Russophobe when listening to such statements. I am imperfect, I would become. And I am ashamed of compatriots.
          1. kaktus
            kaktus 17 November 2013 06: 04
            +1
            To heap: each self-respecting anti-Semite OBLIGED before death to make himself ... a known operation laughing
            1. smile
              smile 17 November 2013 12: 57
              0
              kaktus
              Sew a tail? :)))
          2. Marek Rozny
            Marek Rozny 17 November 2013 15: 35
            +2
            Quote: smile
            smile (2) RU Yesterday, 22:15 p.m. ↑ ↓

            Smile, Respect for saying hi
            1. smile
              smile 17 November 2013 16: 09
              0
              Marek Rozny
              Thanks. I didn’t expect approval from anyone. :))) Because it is doubly pleasant. Accept my "respect" in response, and even, it's scary to say - "respect." :)))
          3. iConst
            iConst 17 November 2013 21: 46
            0
            Quote: smile
            Look, Wasserman is a Russian patriot such that a significant part of our compatriots are not good for him ...... but no, someone doesn’t like it, not that person’s genotype ....

            On the basis of what conclusions are made that he is a patriot ... of Russia?
        2. polly
          polly 17 November 2013 12: 03
          +6
          Judging by people's affairs ... Efim Moiseevich Fomin-hero!
      7. smile
        smile 16 November 2013 21: 46
        +1
        MIKHAN
        Damn, you’re smart ... well, why so? .... I honestly feel sorry for you ... well, really, in order to agree or disagree with the opinion of a person, you need to wait for the test results - he’s a true Aryan or not really?
        Busting ... you are wrong ... fundamentally ....
      8. Siberian German
        Siberian German 17 November 2013 05: 25
        +1
        but he is telling the truth and I like it
    4. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 16 November 2013 12: 35
      +6
      Quote: Jamal
      And in our time, in order to become a director, you must have family or other ties, or pay.

      And not just the director; My nephew temporarily held the position of the head of one of the departments of the police department and when it came time to officially fill the position of the head of the police department insolently demanded 150 thousand from him, and after the father refused to do this, they put in the post a daughter of some kind of cone from Moscow. request
    5. starshina78
      starshina78 16 November 2013 19: 26
      +9
      In Soviet times, not a single leader was appointed to his post without graduating from the Higher Party School (popularly called the "director's school"). A person started from the basics, for example: all the directors of our plant, where I work, began with foremen in the shop, then the shift supervisor, deputy. the head of the shop, and so on to the director of the plant. As soon as the "effective managers" of the former KGB officers and the company came, the whole plant disappears from the "effective" management. And also in the management of any ministry, for example, Minister of Chermet Tevosyan, he started at one of the city factories in our city. And as for the management of the state, there was such a selection that it was probably easier to get into space than into the governing bodies of the country. Not a single non-party member could break out into the people. What was the slogan? "Communists forward!" - and they always went ahead to a breakthrough, to a lagging region, a collective farm, and were responsible with their well-being for order in the entrusted territory. Not that now - any appointment to a post depends on the place of residence and proximity to the body ...
      1. Aryan
        Aryan 16 November 2013 20: 55
        -5
        "To fire?"
        in my opinion, Stalin spoke a completely different word
      2. smile
        smile 17 November 2013 02: 12
        0
        starshina78
        What? Whom? Are you seriously claiming that all plant directors in the USSR graduated from the Higher School of Economics? :)))
        Where are you ... the softest word-crap! 6))) and if you are more than 45-convincing request, consult a doctor and check on Alzheimer's. :)))
        Damn, well, it’s necessary .... there are no words ... even there are no letters ... Education at the Higher School of Economics was not a necessary and indispensable condition for occupying a director's post.

        I understand that the rest of your comment is fair enough, but why produce a new mythology? Can’t you lie without lies? :)))
        Excuse me, but it's too much.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 17 November 2013 09: 34
          +4
          Quote: smile
          Training at the Higher School of Economics was not a necessary and prerequisite for occupying a director's post.

          This became NECESSARY when, in the 1977 edition of the USSR Constitution, a clause was officially introduced on the leadership of the CPSU over all governing bodies. And then the country began to fall into the abyss, because to set the dates for sowing and harvesting on a call from the regional party committee has become the fundamental work of graduates of the secondary school.
          1. smile
            smile 17 November 2013 13: 01
            +3
            stalkerwalker
            With the "axial and guide" everything is clear. The director was obliged to be a member of the CPSU, but not every director was a graduate of the HPS. And that's a fact.
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 17 November 2013 13: 03
          +4
          Quote: smile
          What? Whom? Are you seriously claiming that all plant directors in the USSR graduated from the Higher School of Economics? :)))

          Quote: smile
          I understand that the rest of your comment is fair enough, but why produce a new mythology?

          I will cite a no less "mythical" story about the appointment of a person with a criminal record to the post of the head of a mining site in one of the Donbass mines (an unheard-of action with total control of the city party committee and the struggle for the purity of the ranks!).
          And nevertheless, it happened! As the head of the former "inmate", in fairness to say a SPECIALIST, he defended the PARTORG OF THE MINES (and you need to know WHAT it cost him) fellow .
          By the way, an Armenian, the most honest and authoritative person, whose name was Akop Sergeevich, and was called "behind the back"Okop Trancheevich" lol
          1. smile
            smile 17 November 2013 16: 06
            0
            Corsair
            I do not see anything mythical in your "history". I completely trust you and your "history".
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 18 November 2013 00: 36
              0
              Quote: smile
              I do not see anything mythical in your "history". I completely trust you and your "history".

              This story (practically a parable) may seem mythical to those who are sacred, in their ignorance, convinced that EXCLUSIVELY membership in the CPSU was decisive in the appointment to leadership positions, and professional qualities and organizational abilities were not taken into account.

              Special THANKS to you smile for supporting the commentary, this is a real story, sorry for her "defendants" are no longer with us, but they are alive as long as they are remembered, such people were the backbone of the country ...
        3. starshina78
          starshina78 17 November 2013 18: 47
          0
          smile is not a bust, but a fact! All directors of large factories were trained at the Higher School of Economics. And I also say that without this they could not become the director of the plant. The chief engineer - yes! Director - no! Evidence of this can be found in the materials of the Higher School of Economics.
    6. Felix200970
      Felix200970 17 November 2013 23: 17
      0
      This is the only way to overcome the effect of the Parkinson’s law, according to which a person rises in the hierarchical system until he copes with his duties, sooner or later finding himself in a position that he can’t cope with, but it is impossible to return him to his former place, because it is already taken.

      I wonder what is this Parkinson's law? I have heard about such a disease, and the announced law refers to general merphology and is called "Peter's principle". Either someone is mowing under Wasserman, or it is time for Wasserman to retire because memory is bad
  2. zloi_dekabr
    zloi_dekabr 16 November 2013 07: 26
    16
    Well, we will see what and from what period of the history of the USSR it will be adopted. For me, the period of the 37th year will be just right! And to cover the processes on TV, in prime time, and to execute public executions, as in Iran. In my opinion - it’s all right.
    1. pl675
      pl675 16 November 2013 13: 35
      +8
      Quote: zloi_dekabr
      Well, we will see what and from what period of the history of the USSR it will be adopted. For me, the period of the 37th year will be just right! And to cover the processes on TV, in prime time, and to execute public executions, as in Iran. In my opinion - it’s all right.


      The 37th year began with the first sweeps in the 34th.
      we don’t even smell of it - a trifle like thieving governors and measures is planted to divert our eyes.
      after the appointment of Serdyukov, I generally think that the country is led by Martians.
      1. Nikolay D.
        Nikolay D. 16 November 2013 18: 42
        +4
        Quote: pl675
        I generally think that the country is led by Martians


        The country is led by liberals, these terrible Martians will be.
        1. iConst
          iConst 17 November 2013 21: 41
          0
          Quote: Nikolai D.
          The country is led by liberals, these terrible Martians will be.

          They do not lead the country, but they are tearing bend under themselves!
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 16 November 2013 14: 48
      +1
      Quote: zloi_dekabr
      and public executions do, as in Iran. In my opinion - it’s all right.

      In Iran they say:
      The great shahinshah of Iran, Mohamed Reza Pahlavi, traveled by car through his blessed country. Suddenly, the car got stuck in a pit, the shahinshah ordered to call the Minister of Railways.
      - What is it? - the shahinshah kindly asked - “Pit” - the minister answered tremblingly. - Into his pit!
      And the minister was buried. Since then, pits have been very rare on Iranian roads.
    3. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 16 November 2013 16: 24
      +7
      Quote: zloi_dekabr
      public executions do

      Well, why is this?
      It is enough to print the truth in the newspaper - the sentence is put to death, the ashes are scattered over the collective farm fields and are beneficial in the form of fertilizer.
      1. Current 72
        Current 72 16 November 2013 23: 49
        +1
        Well, at first, public executions could be carried out, well, and then, when everyone understood that they were not joking with them, it could be printed in TRUTH.
  3. Canep
    Canep 16 November 2013 07: 34
    19
    The basis of any personnel policy is secondary education, and vodka has already been drunk on it.
  4. domokl
    domokl 16 November 2013 07: 37
    19
    A very sensible proposal. Especially in the light of yesterday’s message about Serdyukov, in the light of Anatoly Chubais and some others. Elevators work in two directions, not only raise, but lower ... At least they should work like that ... Otherwise, they only become lifts .
    1. not good
      not good 16 November 2013 13: 46
      +4
      And with us, as in a cesspool, the shitier the harder it is to drown.
  5. makarov
    makarov 16 November 2013 07: 50
    16
    It should not be forgotten that in Brezhnev's times, the presence of a university diploma guaranteed an engineering and technical position and promotion, although in the minds of some leaders there was "complete zero."
    And now, I will continue koment with a quatrain:

    The power is bearing fruit
    Without leaving unnecessary places;
    Where used to be a horse neighing freely,
    Now the boss is eating vodka.

    И.Г.
    1. Passer
      Passer 16 November 2013 17: 06
      +4
      And at present, having a university diploma does not guarantee anything, not even knowledge.
      Only now the bosses have multiplied ... Only now, in the head of most of them there is "complete zero". We need leaders, and the current state is producing "managers."
  6. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 16 November 2013 08: 00
    +2
    There were magic elevators for both Vasily Stalin and Churbanov.
    1. predator.3
      predator.3 16 November 2013 11: 26
      +9
      Quote: ivshubarin
      There were magic elevators for both Vasily Stalin and Churbanov.


      But these are isolated cases, recently I watched a film (I forgot the name) with V. Salomin in the title role, about how in 1941 the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant was converted into production of tanks in two months, a good film. Yes, Stalin nominated people according to their talent, for example, DF Ustinov is the youngest people's commissar (at 32), not like the GDP, which pushes the "St. Petersburg", but members of the dacha cooperative "Lake", by the way Serdyukov is also from this cooperative.
      1. 31231
        31231 16 November 2013 17: 15
        +2
        Minister of Defense Shoigu, Minister of Internal Affairs Kolokoltsev, Minister of Foreign Affairs Lavrov acting iconic figures. It is strange that they are not lacustrine.
        In general, any president brings his team to the leadership, if you did not know this.
        1. varov14
          varov14 17 November 2013 18: 15
          0
          Someone is against his team, if only not bros. Those only to rob, there is no greater mind.
  7. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 16 November 2013 08: 06
    14
    Those in power, "holding them" by their GOOD WILL, will never give up the "established" order, because this is NOT an EXTINGUISHING FEEDER. And it seems like there are NO honest people in the government who are rooting for their country a long time ago! a video story was posted about surdyuk, how "Where? Putters" "adopted" the next LAW for the COUNTRY: - a dozen "Duma members" - "ran" over the voting buttons for those "Duma members" who were absent from the meeting (about 450 out of 460), and - COUNTRY LAW - ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY!!! Receiving a salary, and I DO NOT BE SICK, to them, "per-Duma members", excuse the ZAP ... DLO sit at the meeting, delve into the future LAW and discuss it! ImS, it looks like US ... THIS COUNTRY and its PEOPLE! "HE", the PEOPLE "CHOICE" - IN CHOCOLATE, and for the future of HIS country, (I'm not even sure that for them SHE IS OWN), they are PURPLE ...
    1. shpuntik
      shpuntik 17 November 2013 17: 35
      +3
      ia-ai00 KZ Yesterday, 08:06
      Receiving a salary, and I DO NOT BE SICK, to them, "per-Duma members", excuse the ZAP ... DLO sit at the meeting, delve into the future LAW and discuss it!

      Olga, leave already the "Soviet illusions" smile .
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 17 November 2013 22: 58
        0
        Well of course, WHAT THIS (I don't know, -su .., or B -..., sorry) THINK ??? And why ??? From DUM - WRINKLES happen, and HER THIS is necessary ???. So who "nominated" her to the Deputies, and even more interesting - who voted for her ??? Her brains, as you can see, are far from State affairs, and not the needs of the people. With a handful of NON people, the country is going downhill ...
  8. shpuntik
    shpuntik 16 November 2013 08: 40
    -3
    "ELEVATORS BY ELEVATORS, AND NOBODY ABOLISHED THE CONFISCATION OF PROPERTY." In my opinion, such a slogan does not hurt.
    You can’t say anything bad about Wasserman, but he constantly cites his distant relatives as an example for something. what
    Now, if the Russians will behave in Russia, like this Jew in Israel, then there will be sense. I think so.

    1. Symbiotos
      Symbiotos 16 November 2013 20: 31
      0
      Interesting video. It causes a twofold feeling: it seems that they are rooting for their homeland (that's good) and they speak Russian, but these are their aggressive ambitions ...
  9. Pinochet000
    Pinochet000 16 November 2013 08: 41
    27
    In my opinion, it is the personnel policy of I.V. Stalin was one of the main components of the breakthrough
    USSR in the 50s, 60s ... in all areas.
    1. Orik
      Orik 16 November 2013 09: 25
      11
      Personnel policy is the foundation of the basics. People and only people change their lives, what kind of people such and changes.
    2. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 16 November 2013 14: 01
      0
      Quote: Pinochet000
      In my opinion, it is the personnel policy of I.V. Stalin was one of the main components of the breakthrough
      USSR in the 50s, 60s ... in all areas.

      You forgot about the 30s and 40s ...
      1. Eugene
        Eugene 16 November 2013 19: 43
        +2
        And what about the 30-40s? Then a breakthrough was laid ... Minus WWII.
  10. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 16 November 2013 08: 44
    +9
    In Stalin's times, leaders who could not cope were fired and tried to find a place for them, more or less corresponding to the past. This was done due to the fact that at that time quite a lot of enterprises and organizations were created, and it was possible to find suitable posts for competent people.

    Stalin would learn a lot not only from the heads of departments, but also from our leaders, who have either a stupid cabinet of ministers or a policy of destruction in Serdyukov’s style (by Chubais too) or their advisers from across the ocean.
  11. tank64rus
    tank64rus 16 November 2013 09: 00
    14
    Today’s appointment of Serdyukov is an example for all times and peoples, how power rots without purification.
  12. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 16 November 2013 09: 05
    12
    Oh, these SOVIET TIMES, and in particular NOSTALGIA FOR THEM ... There was a time, not like the current TRIBE in the Kremlin. TIME:
    1. HollyGremlin
      HollyGremlin 16 November 2013 13: 49
      +3
      this is truly not even nostalgia. Look even at the art: style, form, presentation - everything is very modern. I think that if there is a force capable of transforming this ideology, a viable new national idea and goal will be obtained.
  13. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 16 November 2013 09: 28
    12
    As always, Wasserman is concrete and concise, even an uneducated person understands his statements! Correctly, the experience of the past must be used, but selectively and very carefully. It must be said that only the right Stalinist personnel policy allowed us to win the worst of wars! (But the current personnel policy requires the most serious revision!)
  14. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 16 November 2013 09: 32
    +6
    from the Don.
    Elevators work only at the top! For a simple but talented person, all approaches are tightly bricked and guarded!
  15. pahom54
    pahom54 16 November 2013 09: 49
    15
    To the author - plus! Everything is revealed clearly and completely, there’s nothing to even think up - work with cadres is returned to the level of the Stalin era.
    BUT!!! There is nobody to do this work, SOME !!! Cronyism-blasphemy and all muin called corruption, displaced the top of the 70s of the twentieth century. That is the problem then !!!
    If Putin were more categorical in selecting the business qualities of his team, maybe some positive changes at the top would put some pressure on the changes at the bottom. BUT!!! Would they give him to do this ??? After all, we still don’t know who is behind him, but they just don’t come to great power, right?
    Note that in the news feed, mayors and their deputies began to flash, against whom criminal cases are being instituted. Last year, our "native" governor was given 9,5 years in prison. BUT!!! The article is the same - for bribery, but not for corruption and not for treason to the Motherland, undermining its state foundations.
    If we had an unjustified person (purely in terms of business qualities, not thieves' ones) who were looking for work commensurate with their abilities, and thieves and minders were planted and shot, there would be more sense.
    I repeat once again: Wasserman briefly and clearly revealed the effective personnel policy, which Russia needs today as air. BUT who will implement it ???
  16. Arkan
    Arkan 16 November 2013 10: 15
    +9
    "Cadres decide everything, not mares and cars." J.V. Stalin.
  17. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 November 2013 11: 10
    +9
    Now there is no personnel policy in Russia! Hang out the worn deck in Moscow and that's it! The same thing in the regions .. Russia is on the verge of an explosion .. I think
    1. optimist
      optimist 16 November 2013 11: 58
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Russia is on the verge of an explosion .. I think

      You think correctly. For the current government, including the "guarantor," Russia, it is a "Coca-Cola" can, which, after being consumed, is crushed and thrown away. Here are some unpleasant facts: my friend, who works as an aircraft technician at Domodedovo, talks about the many airfields with private aviation in the Moscow region, where pilots are literally on duty, waiting for the "X" hour. By the way, speaking of the same pilots: these are mainly former military pilots of the 1st class, who know how to fly at low altitudes in the SMU and know how to bypass and break through air defense. Yes, and in the government now there is only one and only mood: "to blame the fuck until it explodes." I'm afraid that everything will start right after the "limpiyada" ... What kind of personnel policy is there: just a motto - "cp @ zdit more, hide further."
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    4. atalef
      atalef 16 November 2013 12: 15
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      ! The same thing in the regions .. Russia is on the verge of an explosion .. I think

      Something you absolutely reported, but what about
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The ruble is the most secured monetary unit ..

      but it seems like there should be minimal prerequisites, like
      stable economic development, low inflation, reduction in the balance of payments deficit, settlement of the country's external debt, normalization of the political and socio-economic situation in the country

      MIKHAN SU Today, 11:22 ↑
      Such as you are difficult to object ..)))

      I know, because the head is not only what would be there
  18. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 16 November 2013 11: 45
    +6
    It is not difficult to imagine what fate the former Minister of Defense Serdyukov would have had in Stalin's times ...
    1. optimist
      optimist 16 November 2013 12: 08
      +2
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      It is not difficult to imagine what fate the former Minister of Defense Serdyukov would have had in Stalin's times ...

      I hope that yesterday’s news about the appointment of a serdyuk made even the most stupid and faithful putinoids think ...
      1. Normal
        Normal 16 November 2013 18: 52
        0
        Quote: optimist
        I hope that yesterday’s news about the appointment of a serdyuk made even the most stupid and faithful putinoids think ...

        Well this is unlikely. They at least count on the head amuse. They can not think in principle. This is for them, to whom instruction, to whom order is forbidden. Well, who doesn’t have the organ that they’re thinking about.
    2. yur
      yur 16 November 2013 21: 51
      +1
      Just then I can’t imagine the fate of Serdyukov in Stalin’s times, because it wouldn’t have occurred to any idiot to appoint a furniture seller as defense minister
    3. atalef
      atalef 17 November 2013 14: 20
      +2
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      It is not difficult to imagine what fate the former Minister of Defense Serdyukov would have had in Stalin's times ...

      But in Stalin’s times, he would never have become one, we can begin to somehow share the responsibility and remember that someone pushed, appointed, claimed, awarded, wrote out prizes and said approval to all his Serdyukov’s achievements, under Stalin - all would the chain went to the bunks and passing the bricks in the same chain (having been built) would have heated the south of the far north with their hot bodies, somewhere in the paradise of Dudinka or Salekhard
  19. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 November 2013 12: 13
    +3
    Quote: optimist
    Quote: Ivanovich47
    It is not difficult to imagine what fate the former Minister of Defense Serdyukov would have had in Stalin's times ...

    I hope that yesterday’s news about the appointment of a serdyuk made even the most stupid and faithful putinoids think ...

    You are mistaken, dear .. it was a bone thrown to you! Joy is how much your brother has .. For the swamp people you really call in social networks ..? laughing
    1. optimist
      optimist 16 November 2013 13: 05
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      You are mistaken, dear .. it was a bone thrown to you! Joy is how much your brother has .. For the swamp people you really call in social networks ..?

      Indeed, I am mistaken ... "Impenetrable" putinoids in the vastness of our immense, as well as NOT VERY SMART PEOPLE, are in store for 100 years ahead! laughing And they have big problems with a banal fantasy: apart from "swamp hamsters" they can't think of anything else ... No.
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 16 November 2013 17: 19
        -3
        Quote: optimist
        Indeed, I am mistaken ... "Impenetrable" putinoids in the vastness of our immense, as well as NOT VERY SMART PEOPLE, have in store for 100 years ahead

        Fools, dear, FOOL! Do not politically correct and do not share!
        Yes, the terminology itself:
        Under Lenin there were Leninists; under Stalin, the Stalinists, or at least the Stalinists (abusive, like ...)
        And only under Putin, PUTINOIDS! (Consonant with adenoids, alkaloids, in short, pathology)!
        1. AlNikolaich
          AlNikolaich 16 November 2013 18: 02
          +6
          ABOUT! Already minus! Putinoids do not want to identify themselves with fools! Although it is! Or blind they don’t see what is around.
          I respect your god Putin for foreign policy, and despise for domestic!
          PS The essence of putinoids and liberal hamsters is one. Blind and inexplicable worship of your pathological idea! So they rush here and there. Then they have a Bulk hero, then Putin ...
          The eldest son tells me, Dad, why, when I do something, you scold me very much. And do you praise for good deeds quite restrained? -
          -Because the Son, what to do good deeds is NORMAL!
          1. Normal
            Normal 16 November 2013 19: 03
            -1
            Quote: AlNikolaich
            ABOUT! Already minus!

            Never mind. Compensate to the best of our ability. drinks
          2. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 17 November 2013 10: 18
            +1
            Quote: AlNikolaich
            I respect your god Putin for foreign policy, and despise for domestic!

            And who is your god? Kasparov, Lemons, Podrabinek? Khodorkovsky, Bulk?
            1. AlNikolaich
              AlNikolaich 17 November 2013 15: 49
              -1
              Quote: Corsair5912
              And who is your god? Kasparov, Lemons, Podrabinek? Khodorkovsky, Bulk?

              Here, you know them by their names!
              Today Putin, and tomorrow Kasparov, Lemons, Podrabinek Khodorkovsky
              Decide already! Yesterday, for you, Yeltsin was a god, the day before yesterday, Gorbachev!
              Always go with the flow, and are ready to break off those who encroach on your next idol!
          3. 31231
            31231 17 November 2013 11: 17
            0
            ABOUT! Already minus! Putinoids do not want to identify themselves with fools! Although it is! Or blind they don’t see what is around.


            1. Are you here in order to earn points and get ratings on shoulder straps ?! That’s why I respect many adult Jews here, they don’t whisper that they are being neglected, and firmly stand on their point of view.
            2. If I don’t want any revolutions, but a quiet evolutionary development - I’m Putinoid ?! And do not tell me in what a serious directory or dictionary to find its definition?
            3. I understand that you see everything around ?! Then I’ll ask you a couple of questions, O All-Seeing! Will Ukraine sign an agreement with the EU or not? What GDP in Russia will be in 2014?
            1. AlNikolaich
              AlNikolaich 17 November 2013 16: 18
              -1
              Quote: 31231
              31231

              1 I advise you, young Jews, to also stand on their point of view, like the older comrades!

              Quote: 31231
              2. If I don’t want any revolutions, but a quiet evolutionary development - I’m Putinoid ?! And do not tell me in what a serious directory or dictionary to find its definition?

              I also do not want revolutions, and the same for evolutionary development (which is not observed). However, it was you who were hooked by the word "putinoid". Apparently you define yourself so! But this is your choice, sorry! And about serious dictionaries, you can hardly find. The term putinoid is newspeak. But it will come in soon, like hamsters, etc.
              Quote: 31231
              3. I understand that you see everything around ?! Then I’ll ask you a couple of questions, O All-Seeing! Will Ukraine sign an agreement with the EU or not? What GDP in Russia will be in 2014?

              Well, I see a lot around, but not all! And what he saw, coupled with his analytical abilities, is enough to determine the current situation, and to confirm the existing point of view!
              And about:
              Quote: 31231
              Will Ukraine sign an agreement with the EU or not? What GDP in Russia will be in 2014?
              - Does it look like Wang?
              1. 31231
                31231 17 November 2013 16: 51
                0
                1 I advise you, young Jews, to also stand on their point of view, like the older comrades!


                Right, smiled. It is a pity the professor does not see your statement, so he probably would have removed it from the emergency.

                However, it was you who were hooked by the word "putinoid". Apparently you define yourself so!


                From a simple banal question, you draw conclusions. Not stupid? not?

                Well, I see a lot around, but not all! And what he saw, together with his analytical abilities, is enough to determine the current situation, and to confirm the existing point of view!


                I already noticed your analytics, I was enrolled as a young Jew. It is necessary to ask the parents, you look in the 70th knee and there was blood of the Gussians.
                On the other hand, what did the Jews not please you with? Are you an anti-Semite?
                1. AlNikolaich
                  AlNikolaich 17 November 2013 18: 10
                  -2
                  D I like the Jews are not on the blacklist! As in the black hundred ...
                  Quote: 31231
                  From a simple banal question, you draw conclusions. Not stupid? not?
                  Dear, there’s already half the answer in the question: no one called you a Putinoid, you yourself expressing your opinion, ask whether you are a Putinoid!
                  That is, draw the parallels yourself ... And on the other hand, what kind of Putinoids are you harnessing? This is cosmopolitan! Yesterday they are for Yeltsin, today for Putin, tomorrow for bulk or Kasparov! And the louder they yell for Putin, the more corrupt they are! And the second category of putinoids is stupid people who look one-sidedly at a situation without seeing the whole picture!
                  1. 31231
                    31231 17 November 2013 21: 45
                    0
                    Not tired of using labels and demotivator pictures?
                    Are there any more serious arguments? Or just your cliches and speculation?
        2. sso-xnumx
          sso-xnumx 16 November 2013 23: 26
          -1
          and morons ...
      2. Normal
        Normal 16 November 2013 19: 00
        0
        Quote: optimist
        they have big problems with a banal fantasy: apart from "swamp hamsters" they can't think of anything else ...

        Well, they didn’t let them down yet new manuals. laughing Bureaucracy, ... reconciliation, ... red tape ...
        So you have to use terms and definitions for which for a long time there is nothing. And fantasy is absent for the same reasons.
        This is for them, to whom instruction, to whom order is forbidden. Well, who has the organ itself, which they think about (and fantasize), is absent.
    2. pl675
      pl675 16 November 2013 13: 42
      +3
      You are mistaken, dear .. it was a bone thrown to you!


      it's about us wiped our feet.
    3. Nikolay D.
      Nikolay D. 16 November 2013 18: 54
      +2
      That and that, that this performance was played only with one purpose - to discredit Putin and the government. Soon after all, the Olympics, and then the putsch created by the hands of terry liberals. I don’t understand how two conflicting thoughts coexist in their heads:
      1. Putin "initiated" the Oboronservis case and dismissed Syurdyukov from office.
      2. Putin appointed him to another bread place.
      Apparently in their heads Putin is a degraded imbecile who cannot predict one step ahead and foresee the consequences. Because this appointment puts only one person in Russia in the very *** place - this is Putin.

      This is one thing, and another, these "personalities" urge on the one hand to imprison Angry simply because they decided that he is a thief, and on the other, they yell to the left and right that in Russia anyone can be imprisoned without trial, and the courts they are all corrupt.
      Here is a psychic insanity initiated by their puppeteers.
      1. Mature naturalist
        Mature naturalist 16 November 2013 19: 12
        +4
        Quote: Nikolai D.
        Indeed, this appointment puts only one person in Russia in the very *** th place - this is Putin.

        If Putin hadn’t said his own: “It’s not 37 years old,” but bluntly said: “A thief should be in prison,” then now he would be mega-popular and respected.
        You can’t be a little pregnant: saved Serdyukov from prison - get what you deserve.
        1. Nikolay D.
          Nikolay D. 16 November 2013 19: 25
          +1
          Quote: Mature Naturalist
          "Now is not 37"


          Putin never says something just like that (it's time to get used to it), but in this context, he said that "I am not yet omnipotent, like Stalin, so as to arrange a purge at 37" (here you can generally interpret the words he said .), a lot of nuances in our time need to be overcome in order to resolve any issue. But the blessed ones constantly say that in politics everything is as simple as five kopecks, that he planted, that he appointed, hop-chpok - bribes are smooth, then I see that Stalin went to power for 20 years. This is firstly, secondly, I have already answered with the comment above.
          1. Mature naturalist
            Mature naturalist 16 November 2013 19: 34
            +4
            Quote: Nikolai D.
            in this context, he said that "I am not yet omnipotent, like Stalin, in order to organize a purge at 37,"

            Are you sure that such a deep thought was in this phrase about the 37th year?
            I think everything was said "head-on" for the investigating officers: "Do not touch!"
            Just orders should be given so that the most stupid performer correctly understood and executed them.
            And if you put hidden meaning there, then suddenly the employees of the UK will not understand it and put poor fellow Serdyukov in it.
            So, I think that you are wrong.
            1. Nikolay D.
              Nikolay D. 16 November 2013 19: 38
              +3
              Quote: Mature Naturalist
              I think everything was said "head-on" for the investigating officers: "Do not touch!"

              Such matters cannot be made public, by the way, he recently spoke about this recently.
              And secondly, please tell me why Putin "initiated" the Oboronservis case? No, I'm really interested, no mockery.
              1. AlNikolaich
                AlNikolaich 16 November 2013 20: 29
                +4
                Quote: Nikolai D.
                And secondly, please tell me why Putin "initiated" the Oboronservis case? No, I'm really interested, no mockery.

                My opinion is that there is a mockery ... But not on your part.
                Putin initiates business. He is being investigated. Serdyukov witness. Vasiliev should be released due to the delay in the proceedings. Money either 7, or 12 billion was not found and not returned. Serdyukov gets a dusty job at the tractor museum. Let's wait where they will attach Vasilyev after the removal of the arrest and the other defendants. The finish! Checkered flag! Case is closed.
                The question arises: "What was this ???" And the second question: "What for ???"
                This is the mockery ...
                1. Nikolay D.
                  Nikolay D. 16 November 2013 21: 31
                  +1
                  Quote: AlNikolaich
                  The question arises: "What was this ???" And the second question: "What for ???"


                  I have a certain idea, I have already written it here, characterizing all these movements: “It seems to me that Serdyukov is a modern version of the liquidator. Everything converges, after his appointment as defense minister, the ranks of people of certain clans were cleansed, then materials surfaced (agent birch tree?) for the Oboronservis case, and then the next steps are to modernize the army. "
                  This is my opinion, which may not coincide with reality.
                  1. AlNikolaich
                    AlNikolaich 16 November 2013 22: 07
                    0
                    Yes, maybe the liquidator. Disposable. The Moor has done his job, the Moor can leave ... The head of the tractor museum ...
                    And billions? Anyway, some kind of weird solitaire. Everything is illogical ...
                    Although we only know what they allow us!
                    1. Nikolay D.
                      Nikolay D. 16 November 2013 23: 34
                      +3
                      Quote: AlNikolaich
                      Although we only know what they allow us!


                      Well, well, ktozh us "sirim" will reveal the truth, but lay out the cards. So we all have to analyze, think outside the box, invent, etc. Suspect. laughing
                      1. AlNikolaich
                        AlNikolaich 17 November 2013 17: 37
                        0
                        Quote: Nikolai D.
                        Everything converges, after his appointment as defense minister, the ranks of people of certain clans were cleaned out, then materials (agent of a birch tree?) For the Oboronservis case surfaced, and then the next steps were to modernize the army. "
                        This is my opinion, which may not coincide with reality.


                        Apparently here they wanted to leave Serdyukov "clean", but only that something went wrong ... And the scandal came out very loud! The task was given, apparently, to destroy the structure and clean the ranks! And it turned out to be a banal theft and whore with a criminal case! Serdyukov fulfilled the task, and the authorities are trying in every possible way to cleanse him! And Vasilyeva, apparently, was told not to take it into her head to drain Tolyana.
                        And they promised her freedom. So, as always, switchmen will sit down!
                        I will not be surprised that the money has already returned, and have already been capitalized where necessary ...
                        Something like this, maybe ...
          2. pl675
            pl675 16 November 2013 22: 58
            +4
            Quote: Nikolai D.
            Quote: Mature Naturalist
            "Now is not 37"


            Putin never says something just like that (it's time to get used to it)



            ??
            he is only 13 years old and speaks.
            did you read his programs and instructions to the government? - highly recommend.
            art whistle.

            analogies with T. Stalin? - I have them -
            koba robbed banks not for the prosperity of the coop "lake" - took over the country with a plow and handed it over with yao. a wooden pea jacket was not put on him, taking off his only greatcoat and a pair of worn-out boots.
            comparisons are not appropriate.
            1. Nikolay D.
              Nikolay D. 16 November 2013 23: 20
              +1
              Quote: pl675
              he's only 13 years old


              Well, yes, and the standard of living in the meantime is growing (compared to the 90s, in those days, from summer 4, I used to plow a horse every summer, but I still had a little money, no, I'm not complaining, just an example led, life), probably in spite of it. I understand everything, but all the same, let's be objective.
              Tell me, did you live in the 90s? Yes, yes, the very ones that become "mythical" before the eyes of many.
              Guys, I also don’t like everything that is happening now in Russia (the problem is in the system, and not in people), but this is not a reason to take everything and break the joy of the bourgeois that is ours, that is Western.
              1. pl675
                pl675 16 November 2013 23: 35
                +3
                colleague, Putin is not here at work.
                thank him very much for maintaining the integrity of the country.
                from the bottom of my heart - THANKS
                Well, that’s it.
                the work went on pocket - and you, from these crumbs from the table put on weight -
                -Do not tell me about the standard of living, when the pensioners who created the base that we are now pestering .... m receive a pension of 8000, who have been plowing at the factory all their lives - this "life has become more fun" ??? well, by God, it's funny.
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                2. Nikolay D.
                  Nikolay D. 17 November 2013 00: 03
                  +2
                  Quote: pl675
                  this "life has become more fun" ???


                  Yazh wrote: "Guys, I also do not like everything that is happening now in Russia (the problem is in the system, not in people), but this is not a reason to take everything and break it to the delight of the bourgeoisie, both ours and the Western ones."
                  It’s all about the capitalist system. Postmodern, which has bloody capitalism on guard, tears the world apart, life becomes bad for everyone and a way out somewhere where the bourgeois won't tell you.
                  Prosolypolymer moods, and their output in:

                  only aggravate the situation, it is necessary to decide which path Russia will choose, and not fight with endless windmills, which the liberal palms us.
                  I will say this, if what some "languages" say does not come true after the Olympics (in short: Putin wants to change ideology), then even I, an ardent supporter of "stability", will lose all faith in humanity and personally in the "radiant".
                  1. pl675
                    pl675 17 November 2013 00: 17
                    +4
                    I am for -
                    - review of privatization results
                    - return to the bosom of the state strategic objects
                    - statement of the state scheme itself in social. reasonable rails
                    - revision of laws on mineral resources, otherwise you know Gazprom's "national heritage" and "dreams come true" sound like a grin.

                    this is for a start.
              2. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 17 November 2013 05: 24
                +2
                did you live in the 80s? what is the use of recalling those years when the collapse began, and comparing with what is now? in the 90s, the country survived, and in the 80s, it was still living, and it was living quite well by the way! and the standard of living is now not growing, but quietly sliding and sliding down ... you just need to go outside the Moscow Ring Road and see.
                1. Nikolay D.
                  Nikolay D. 17 November 2013 09: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  and the standard of living is now not growing, but quietly sliding and sliding down ... you just need to go outside the Moscow Ring Road and see.


                  And I wrote that "compared to the 90s." This, in principle, can be attributed to the period from 85 to 91, when the country was being prepared for collapse and there was nothing on the shelves.
          3. Normal
            Normal 17 November 2013 08: 56
            +1
            Quote: Nikolai D.
            "I am not yet omnipotent, like Stalin, to purge like at 37"
            ....
            Stalin went to power for 20 years


            Stalin "devoured" Lenin, even if he was sick, but nevertheless the first person in the party and the leader of the state. Gobbled up being a third-rate figure in the hierarchy and having no real levers of power. Gobbled in the 20s, not in the 37
            In the 27th I ate Trotsky. The second person after Lenin in the party who was followed by tens of thousands of his proteges in the Red Army. Not in the 37th, but in the 27th he threw Trotsky out of the country, when in your opinion another 10 years to the fullness of power.
            In the 37th, Stalin removed Tukhachevsky, who had a certain authority in the army.
            And what authority does Serdyukov have? What is this value that would wait twenty years?
            With thieves do not have to wait 20 years. Thieves need to be planted.
            But GDP has no desire.
            1. Nikolay D.
              Nikolay D. 17 November 2013 09: 26
              +2
              If you look, yes with analogies, it will become clear that Putin's path is about the same, only bloodless. You do not know who was "eaten" by the GDP (we will find out about this in 50 years, or if there is a "new Khrushchev" after Putin), but you speak as if you are working with his right hand.
              He began to stir up a liberal nest, behind which the whole capitalist, bloody west is a step not in this direction and your comrades-in-arms (well, just like with Stalin) will eat you at least, and the collapse of the country as a maximum. If you draw parallels, then draw them to the end.
              Serdyukov in this game is a bargaining chip, albeit of a large denomination.
            2. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 17 November 2013 09: 46
              +3
              Quote: Normal
              With thieves do not have to wait 20 years. Thieves need to be planted.
              But GDP has no desire.

              In fact - I agree.
              I am not sure of one thing - now start "tightening the screws" in the manner of the 30s of the last century, no matter how many of us would have to join the ranks of "lumberjacks". Or does someone think that now there are crystal-clear people working in the UK?
              Mass landings in the USSR began in the 20s and reached their peak in the late 30s. And this was the result of the actions of tens of thousands of workers of the OGPU-NKVD - to issue a warrant, arrest, conduct an investigation, determine the punishment, send the convict to a place where "Makar does not feed calves."
              Since then, the saying "Who was not - he will be, who was - will not forget" has lived in the people's memory.
              1. Corsair5912
                Corsair5912 17 November 2013 10: 27
                +2
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Mass landings in the USSR began in the 20s and reached their peak in the late 30s. And this was the result of the actions of tens of thousands of workers of the OGPU-NKVD - to issue a warrant, arrest, conduct an investigation, determine the punishment, send the convict to a place where "Makar does not feed calves."

                There were no mass landings in the USSR.
                In the 20s there was a civil war and the elimination of gangs of uninhabited White Guards.
                In the 30s there was collectivization and industrialization and the fight against saboteurs, pests and fists.
                Without the OGPU-NKVD, the country would fall into ruin and become a den of thieves, swindlers, bandits, embezzlers, spies, as it was in the recent 90s, when the KGB was liquidated.
            3. pahom54
              pahom54 17 November 2013 11: 48
              0
              For normal
              You touched on the controversial issues ... We now only know the story that is presented to us ... And here I want to convey the opinion of the same Nikolai Starikov (although he is far from a panacea, BUT all the same): Stalin "devoured" Lenin and actually killed Trotsky for one main reason: they were both PROFESSIONAL REVOLUTIONARY, that is, - DESTROYERS. And, having entered power, they could only further destroy what they had conquered, since they are NOT CREATORS. This is the main reason for their almost physical destruction.
              But Tukhachevsky ... I personally really do not like the story of his escape from German captivity and the setup of thousands of Russian prisoners of war. Read the memoirs of those people you trust and understand ... They will not talk about some kind of conspiracy of the marshals, but about the decency of Tukhachevsky as a person ... Something rotten somewhere and slipped through somewhere.
              I don’t defend any of those mentioned at all, especially since Serdyuk and a nail-hair are not worth any of these people, I just stand for justice in assessing people.
              But Serdyuk's jail is a mercy and a gift, only the highest measure of punishment. Or in the tuntra - for food and self-survival ...
            4. varov14
              varov14 17 November 2013 18: 26
              0
              What a pop and parish. Now is the time for shearing the sheep.
        2. ivshubarin
          ivshubarin 17 November 2013 16: 43
          +1
          "A thief should be in prison" - Putin said, but about Khodorkovsky
          1. Nikolay D.
            Nikolay D. 17 November 2013 17: 55
            +2
            Quote: ivshubarin
            "A thief should be in prison" - Putin said, but about Khodorkovsky


            Planting is easy, returning stolen money is very difficult, returning money and planting is an art.
            1. ivshubarin
              ivshubarin 18 November 2013 07: 50
              0
              Stalin perfectly mastered this art. He returned from abroad everything that was stolen at the State Guard, and he shot thieves
  20. konvalval
    konvalval 16 November 2013 13: 44
    +3
    Yes, everything that we have now confirms the slogan "cadres decide everything."
  21. konvalval
    konvalval 16 November 2013 13: 45
    0
    Yes, everything that we have now confirms the slogan "cadres decide everything."
  22. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 16 November 2013 13: 58
    +7
    It is necessary to study and implement the legacy of I.V. Stalin, this is the real bright future of civilization Russia. That is why the arrogant Saxons, by the hands of homegrown and unprincipled liberalists, launched such a fierce struggle to de-Stalinize.
  23. Cherdak
    Cherdak 16 November 2013 14: 18
    +5
    “Stalin had a tremendous authority, and not only in Russia. He knew how to“ tame ”his enemies, not to panic at losing and not to enjoy victories. And he had more victories than defeats.
    Stalin’s Russia is not the old Russia that perished along with the monarchy. But the Stalinist state without successors worthy of Stalin is doomed ...
    (D Goll L Sharl. Military memoirs. Prince II.) Http://stalinism.ru

    "... It is a great success for Russia in its desperate struggle and suffering - to have a great and strict military leader at its head. He is a strong and outstanding personality, corresponding to those gloomy and stormy times in which life has thrown him, a man of inexhaustible courage and willpower , direct and even harsh in speeches, against which, I, brought up in the House of Commons, do not mind at all, especially when I myself have something to say. First of all, he is a man with that saving sense of humor that is necessary for all people and nations, especially to great people and great nations. Stalin impressed me with deep, cold wisdom, completely devoid of any kind of illusion. I believe that I managed to convince him that we will be good and loyal comrades in this war - but in the end after all, everything is decided not by words, but by concrete deeds. "

    (Churchill W. Speech in the House of Commons September 8, 1942).
  24. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 16 November 2013 14: 39
    +5
    An effective system of "garbage chutes" was only in the so-called Stalinist times, that is, from the mid-1930s to the mid-1950s. In these times, contrary to numerous legends, they were arrested for failures quite rarely, but they invariably and very carefully tried to remove people from those posts with which they could not cope.

    Apparent pests, saboteurs, and those who were not removed during the arrest, were not arrested, and their incompetence caused catastrophes, major accidents, and human casualties.
  25. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 15: 05
    -1
    Respect Vas. To the person with a capital letter!
  26. i.xxx-1971
    i.xxx-1971 16 November 2013 15: 57
    -1
    I respect Wasserman, but minusanul, because I believe that he is frosty right. Why the economic development of the country under I.V. Stalin cannot be copied at present as a whole? I begged you all! It is not necessary to assert confidently that there were excesses in the Stalinist economy. Learn the history of the development of economic relations in the Anglo-Saxon countries.
    1. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 16: 19
      -1
      In those parts where the sheep ate people and where the "roads of Indian weavers" are strewn with human bones? Are you talking about that type of biorobots?
      Suggest me to study more thoroughly the causes of the phenomena? smile
    2. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 17: 15
      -1
      In general, humanity has already come to the conclusion that without a state its existence is problematic. Of course, there will be one state on the planet "Earth". The only question is how many inhabitants are necessary for the harmonious coexistence of biospecies.
      Paradise on earth is possible.
    3. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 20: 17
      0
      And what about the rich? But what about their offspring? What about the internet?
  27. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 16 November 2013 17: 16
    +8
    Strange things are happening in ...
    The article is put up for discussion, and they discuss the author of the article, his nationality, financial situation, social status, but not what is written in the article. And this happens with enviable regularity.
    I guess, that MODERATORS would not hurt to "sift" some comments of especially concerned members of the forumwho prefer to "spit" in the direction of the author, but not express themselves in essence.
    I explain.
    Every time, instead of well-reasoned reviews and answers, one has to read slogans like: "Give me ...", "Down with ..", "Shoot list ...", "Back to ..." and so on and so forth. Well, downright, some kind of permanent "Internet revolutionaries".

    PS Most often, calls and slogans are distributed "from under" the flags of a non-existent country. This is what diagnosis?
    Nevertheless, with respect to all forum users and forum users.
    hi
    1. smile
      smile 17 November 2013 02: 37
      +4
      stalkerwalker
      Hi!
      As far as I understand, moderators cannot fulfill your wishes for the simple reason that this is outside their competence. Yes, and they can not transplant hydrocephalus brains. :)))
      And this very "non-existent country" - my dream is to return to ... :))) And nevertheless - you are right - a significant part of the bawlers who do not realize the consequences of their calls for some reason dishonor the flag of the USSR. Why, I don’t know, there is a great mystery. :)))
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 17 November 2013 09: 14
        +5
        Quote: smile
        As far as I understand, moderators cannot fulfill your wishes for the simple reason that this is outside their competence.

        Greetings, Smile!
        This is not so much a request for moderators, but so much a request for critics to be less active.
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 17 November 2013 07: 02
      +3
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      PS Most often, calls and slogans are distributed "from under" the flags of a non-existent country. What is the diagnosis?

      It is rather a confirmation that a certain category of visitors does not have a certain "political overtones", ie. in general, "not any", taking advantage of the opportunity to shit incognito, "come off in full" ...
    3. Same lech
      Same lech 17 November 2013 07: 13
      +3
      it’s normal and right; it’s better people will let off steam in discussion than on the street with the help of bits and bricks.
      I would be surprised if here, as in the good old days, there was universal agreement (such as approvals and continuous applause)
      In addition, various indulgences from criticism, even from Natsiks, liberals and Russophobes, should not apply to articles; this is the only way we can find out the point of view of extreme movements in human society, which in turn will allow us to understand the essence of many problems.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 17 November 2013 09: 19
        +5
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        In addition, various indulgences from criticism, even from Natsiks, liberals and Russophobes, should not apply to articles; this is the only way we can find out the point of view of extreme movements in human society, which in turn will allow us to understand the essence of many problems.

        I am always of the opinion that freedom to speak is a holy cause ...
        But utterance to utterance is discord.
        You expect constructive criticism from serious people, and not golimny gorlopanstva, as it was already in the vastness of the USSR - EVERYTHING KNEW, but the country has sunk into oblivion ...
    4. varov14
      varov14 17 November 2013 18: 40
      0
      Yes, Wasserman is right for all 100, a hat should be a little, not like now, from one bread place to another. They steal a lot of dough, and at the exit an LED bulb for 1000 rubles, be it my will for a long time to send the cows to mouth, and then they can’t cope, they will drown it in some swamp.
  28. sxn278619
    sxn278619 16 November 2013 17: 20
    +1
    From the effect of Parkinson’s law it follows that every 5 years it is necessary to do a purge (Peter spoke of this already). Like Serdyukov. There was a minister of defense, now the head of something with a turnover of 5 mil. rub. Nothing to steal. And his girls there in prison.
    1. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 17: 25
      -3
      There is no sense for a dispute, what Onotol has accumulated about is already clear to everyone.
  29. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 16 November 2013 18: 14
    +7
    I respect Wasserman for continuous mental work. What does a "regular user" do when they come across an idea? This is such a rare bird in his head that our Internet frequenter becomes an ardent defender of his one and only thought! He is no longer in any way interested in reality, everything is considered only in one key - does the incident fit "the thought" or not ?! Eh, people ...
    In a powerful brain, work goes on continuously. Thoughts are born, collide with reality, with each other, are selected ... the theory was born. But, as soon as reality presented other data - the theory in the trash! In fact, an intelligent person very, very often feels like a fool. To be honest - almost always. The world is very large, diverse and complex. It’s hard to embrace the mind. If you are pleasantly tickled by the feeling of omniscience, possession of the only true picture of the world ... I have bad news for you smile ... In general, no mental production is possible in principle without the periodic "Well, here again I plowed, I was lying, WAS COMPLETELY WRONG. We must start thinking all over again." And the people of the order "one gyrus" scour the net, looking for old opinions and statements, then with a squeal presenting ... but I digress.
    So on the topic. Either Wasserman has not penetrated too deeply yet, or he is trying to "do it in a dose" so to speak. Generally it will not work to remove from office. Behind each great leader is a pyramid of people that lifted him up. And this pyramid with teeth and claws, not for that they pushed their promoted to a high post, so that they would be flogged from there. It seems to all of you that he cannot cope, that he is a megavor and a mini-cute. He is still managing to supply his pyramid! And his group will stop at nothing. In front of anything at all. Make no mistake, even to the point of changing the existing system or the destruction of the state. Other teams are simply unable to push their effectors high enough, the competition is very high. We'll have to shoot ...
    Our president does not want to shoot. Doesn’t want to. Oh ...
    1. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 18: 25
      -1
      I agree with you, Thought is the road. The road is interesting and dangerous. Sometimes you need to shoot.
  30. Snoop
    Snoop 16 November 2013 19: 23
    +5
    What can I say, that's right. Serdyukov’s appointment put everything in its place. I’ve done things in the defense industry, it’s there again))) Even faithful party members are not visible (Putin’s defenders) laughing Or again the songs will be that he is not a god and not everything is in his power. But then, if the president cannot control the appointment to senior posts, why is he at all?

    "Hotels, blondes, residential areas ... I am leaving the UK beautifully ..." (folk art)
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 17 November 2013 10: 49
      +1
      We are responsible. It’s just that you are not only unable to understand the answer, you cannot even recognize that it is the answer. But who am I talking to? Where do brains come from?
  31. TAMERLAN
    TAMERLAN 16 November 2013 19: 30
    +3
    you just need to return the country to its history and not live according to the instructions and whims of a single moderator who does not even understand the multiplication table but only divides everything into MY AND MY AGAIN
  32. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 16 November 2013 19: 52
    +2
    AlNikolaich SU
    ... Your God, Putin, I respect for foreign policy, and despise for domestic!

    Or maybe THIS is his game? - threaten to divert eyes from the border ... while - destroying your country from the inside ??? Well, I just don't understand the logic in his "two-faced" behavior! For some reason, everything that REQUESTS THE PEOPLE, he either OK, or SILENT ...
  33. MaKeNa
    MaKeNa 16 November 2013 20: 05
    +2
    "Cadres decide EVERYTHING!" This is Stalin's key phrase, and he created the Soviet training system. One opening of vocational schools (vocational schools) is worth what, for 10 years the country was provided with workers! And what now - the Soviet training system has crashed, there is not a word about vocational schools in the new law on education, and we shout at all corners that there are not enough workers, where does it come from? will they take it? There is no system! And why is Ivanov so worried about personnel policy? A 13 years old. that they are in power, that there was no such problem? Or maybe a distraction - there are no good shots, so Serdyukov has to be returned. There are no others! So I recall the words of one president "Somoza (dictator and executioner in Nicaragua) of course a son of a bitch, but he is OUR son of a bitch" So we have a personnel reserve - these are OUR SONS OF BITCHES!
    1. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 20: 10
      0
      they have migrants smile
  34. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 16 November 2013 20: 38
    +6
    The guys are off topic. The news writes that in Makhachkala during a special operation they terrorized Sokolov, the organizer of the Volgograd terrorist attack. Dog canine death!
    It is only a pity that the retribution of such overtakes after their deeds ... And the people of the dead can not be returned ...
    1. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 20: 51
      0
      His choice is such, and nothing will change him.
  35. Motors1991
    Motors1991 16 November 2013 20: 55
    +3
    In the Soviet Union there were two management systems: the first on the party line, and the second on the production line, and the selection of personnel in them was radically different. In the party system, people were essentially engaged in fraud, so the most arrogant, unprincipled intriguers made their way upstairs. The situation was different in production , any enterprise had a production plan, and the directors evaluated it according to its implementation, so the first manager selected subordinates for his business qualities, if you execute the plan on your site, you will be noticed and very soon they will try in a higher position while someone is on vacation or is sick, you can handle the increase. The system was very tough, you can’t, you don’t want to work, it will survive and spit out. Wasserman never worked in production, so he doesn’t know how tough the demand was and the most important thing is that you won’t turn your back on either beautiful slogans or wall newspapers. . I write with knowledge of the matter, since he himself went from a mechanic to the director of a large ATP, not having missed a single position, except for an accountant. The trouble of the USSR was precisely that the party elite did not know how to work, but simply created the appearance of intense activity, while technicians, setting sometimes wild tasks, no reasonable arguments were taken into account. I myself had to deal with this more than once.
    1. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 21: 18
      0
      The trouble began when the party, imagining itself to be the Creator of the worlds, created a situation in a single country, in which thinking individuals could not develop without being
      members of this part of the people. T.O. the road to those who didn’t
      shared ideas.
  36. zub46
    zub46 16 November 2013 21: 39
    +3
    Comrade Wasserman touched on a crucial topic. Indeed, the existing rules for holding positions in the civil service, despite all these contests for filling vacancies, leave much to be desired. In addition, the level and quality of modern education, practical experience and the presence of state thinking among applicants for these positions. Recall Taburetkina and not only.
    In Soviet times, the district committees and regional committees of the Communist Party were engaged in recruiting the personnel reserve for promotion. There was a "Nomenclature of positions to be filled by persons from the personnel reserve". That is, it was about more or less prominent positions in industry, government bodies, education, etc. Persons who fell into this Nomenclature had to correspond not only professionally, but also through the Ministry of Internal Affairs / KGB. Yes, yes, the positive conclusion on the results of the special check was of decisive importance. The reputation was followed and protected. It was not without reason that such a rhyme was popular: "Life has given a significant crack, feathers are falling from my hands ... Behind the pregnant women, ahead of the party bureau ...". This was followed by the approval (!) On the bureau of the district committee-regional committee of the candidate for nomination. It was all there. And not just "it was", but at the most serious and highest level.
    States tried not to inflate, cost the minimum number of employees. Struggled (realistically) with the scale of reporting submitted to higher authorities.
    The situation worsened in the blessed late Brezhnev era. Have flooded elements of general relaxation. There was a problem with the growth of staff, especially in the offices of the regional level and all kinds of research institutes, in this regard, reporting became more complicated and consolidated, since the peoples in these offices needed to somehow justify their existence. Reductions were carried out periodically. But, in accordance with the law of the same Parkinson, these events were very reminiscent of the sudden command "Shoot!" a huge flock of crows. With a cry, rising and spinning, losing guano, they all again sat down on the same branches of their tree.
    The first question arises: in our time, which office is capable of compiling the Nomenclature, the selection and promotion of personnel? You can laugh, but except for the FSB, nothing else comes to mind. To whom to entrust?
    That is, in modern conditions, we have completely destroyed and finally lost one of the most important principles of society management - the selection and placement of leading personnel. There will be normal, healthy leaders, thinking state, rooting for the state, and not about their own profits, you will see that the situation in the country will gradually improve.
    1. EdwardTich68
      EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 22: 11
      0
      I will answer your question, if you explain to me the meaning of the existence of our state formation in the current space-time band. laughing
      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 17 November 2013 03: 11
        +1
        Quote: EdwardTich68
        I will answer your question, if you explain to me the meaning of the existence of our state formation in the current space-time band.

        Hi Edward! I read your comments. Admit that you smoke? Or do you soberly have such paradoxical and unconventional thinking! request
  37. s1н7т
    s1н7т 16 November 2013 21: 46
    +6
    If someone does not know how they tracked, recruited, trained personnel during the Soviet era (until the end of the 60s - for sure), then don't fuck it. Wasserman is right once again. But not because he is so smart, but because the "People" teaches history from posters: "Choose with your heart!" Would we have won with such a slogan in that War? Fly into space? Etc. Alas, Khrushchev destroyed the personnel management system. Brezhnev did not even think about her. The rest, up to the present, too. So we have capitalism. Rather, he has us.
    1. ivshubarin
      ivshubarin 18 November 2013 07: 56
      0
      Agree to 100%
    2. iConst
      iConst 18 November 2013 10: 17
      0
      Quote: c1n7
      So we have capitalism

      No no. Do not need bad things about the departed!

      Russia, unfortunately, did not have time to enter capitalism - it has already died ... We (and the inhabitants of the whole world, including) are now "owned" by imperialism, that is, corporations.

      Capitalism satisfied the needs, and imperialism creates them.
  38. catapractic
    catapractic 16 November 2013 22: 34
    +1
    Social elevators do not work without "social garbage chutes" good good good
  39. Vasily Klopkov
    Vasily Klopkov 17 November 2013 00: 18
    0
    But still, a person has a lot! Karl Marx of our time! And most importantly, clearly explains everything. I especially liked the managers who could not cope.
  40. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 17 November 2013 01: 01
    +6
    All right says. With a truly state-owned approach to governing the country, a sensible personnel policy is indispensable. But Stalin was still a statesman to look for. The current traders with purchased diplomas no matter how puffed up, but all one will be measured by merchant standards. For more neither mind nor talent ...
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 17 November 2013 09: 50
      +4
      Quote: Jogan-64
      The current traders with purchased diplomas no matter how puffed up, but all one will be measured by merchant standards. For more neither mind nor talent ...

      Well, pAnimash, "brought" them there, by the wind ...
      We will not be there.
      1. Jogan-xnumx
        Jogan-xnumx 18 November 2013 02: 07
        0
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        "brought" them there, by the wind ...

        Draft soon ...
  41. Vasek
    Vasek 17 November 2013 04: 39
    +1
    Casting "Isaac Moiseevich Zaltsman" explains the appointment of Serdyukov.
    And you say: the garbage chute does not work! fool
  42. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 17 November 2013 07: 21
    0
    Again there was a smell of th --- m, why can't you do without spraying organic fertilizers on everyone and everything! We are here discussing the ideas expressed by Wasserman, and not who, what and why, and do not forget one rule: "... the reward will find its hero ..." (and Serdyukov will get his). Of course, I would like everything at once, but ... !
  43. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 17 November 2013 08: 58
    0
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Again, the Jews teach us how to live .. I remember after their songs Russia almost drowned in blood! Wasserman sings sweetly .. feels where it is necessary to pick in the soul of Russian .. I don’t believe that .. Everyone plus And I put a minus ..


    This is what made me laugh !!! ... Well done Wasserman studied the Russian soul well .. knows where to pick ..! Wasserman CORRECTLY writes everything logically and to the point .. But only Gorbachev and Yeltsin also sang sweetly and said the right things (remember, I hope) and most of them listened with open mouths and clapping ... and what happened ?? Fear such men (who speak beautifully with cunning eyes) you need to read and listen, but clapping your hands hanging ears is not worth it ... Just remember, he was an ardent anti-Stalinist ... now turned around 180 ..
  44. lexe
    lexe 17 November 2013 11: 00
    0
    article is correct.
    However, there is a gradual devaluation of such a thing as a leader.
    Just subordinates became smarter ...
    And in order to regain the respect of subordinates ... the leader needs to be prepared as an athlete for the Olympic games. And this is a return to the caste of the bureaucratic corps, with a strict assessment of professional activity within this community according to strict standards but with elements of the right to make mistakes. The state will invest in preparing these people in them as if in astronauts ...
    And you need to select not by the principle of charisma of a person with a scary face and big biceps. But by the principle of uniqueness of a person in his specialty. As a rule, such people do not possess organizational skills at all. Here these abilities of such people need to be developed, including additional reinforced education, but at least in some closed schools. But to instill professionalism in people (giving them high posts), inclined from nature to leadership, it’s empty business — money immediately reaches out laughing
  45. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 17 November 2013 11: 24
    0
    The media are transmitting a statement by the head of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation, Sergei Ivanov, that the personnel policy has been destroyed and must be revived, drawing on Soviet experience.

    To rely on Soviet experience, it is necessary to change the principle of forming a government and the entire bureaucracy, at all levels.
    Competent professionals with real work experience in the real economy should rule the country, not mafia "teams" and not dropouts who have completed "courses in public administration".
    Now every godfather drags with him into power a "team" of "fighters" personally loyal to him, and they work for him, and not for the state and not for the people.
    Incompetent state experts, officials of various departments who do not even understand the terminology hinder everything that they can interpret laws, instructions and regulations to the extent of their incompetence and stupidity.
  46. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 17 November 2013 11: 55
    +1
    Personnel policy in the USSR began from the first grades ... They chose the head of the class ... the person responsible for order in the class and so on ... the council of the squad, the Komsomol committee ... It was like a game ... but in such a game leaders were identified ... the ability to organize collection of scrap paper ... help veterans, etc. Next step was the army or the institute (they identified those who know how to organize, combining it with good study ... further distribution in the institute ... or in the army they could send and more often did this to a deep province checking his organizational skills and fortitude .. in factories and factories .. directors were mainly those who went through all the stages .. There was such a concept "nomenclature" .. This is natural selection .. (though with Yeltsin the system failed ..)) ) My father was almost called to Moscow (literate and honest) He was drawn to the virgin lands .. a romantic pancake (You go out into the field and the endless expanse of wheat spike .. the soul sings ..))) That's how we lived .. I envy my father ! Now communication money is held in high esteem .. and the ability to lick in the right moment .. Then all sorts of Wassermans did not teach us life .. We sat quietly and did not blather .. Here is a sad comment ...
  47. Tanysh
    Tanysh 17 November 2013 12: 01
    +1
    Reluctantly, I add a comment. I didn’t want to participate in the conversation for the sake of conversation, these are NOT DRAWBAGS! Does it matter who and what nationality speaks out about the painful if it is known in advance that the rulers will wipe your feet about you.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 17 November 2013 12: 16
      0
      Well, you are right Tanysh .. of course ..))) But you can just wipe your feet about yourself .. The rulers in Russia were not particularly fond of .. they just endured up to a certain point .. And there "Oh, cudgel hoot .." ... Nationalism Terry does not carry anything good .. blood and robbery .. everything should be a little bit .. and in moderation ..
  48. mithridate
    mithridate 17 November 2013 14: 15
    0
    no political will
    Quote: Normal
    Quote: Nikolai D.
    "I am not yet omnipotent, like Stalin, to purge like at 37"
    ....
    Stalin went to power for 20 years


    Stalin "devoured" Lenin, even if he was sick, but nevertheless the first person in the party and the leader of the state. Gobbled up being a third-rate figure in the hierarchy and having no real levers of power. Gobbled in the 20s, not in the 37
    In the 27th I ate Trotsky. The second person after Lenin in the party who was followed by tens of thousands of his proteges in the Red Army. Not in the 37th, but in the 27th he threw Trotsky out of the country, when in your opinion another 10 years to the fullness of power.
    In the 37th, Stalin removed Tukhachevsky, who had a certain authority in the army.
    And what authority does Serdyukov have? What is this value that would wait twenty years?
    With thieves do not have to wait 20 years. Thieves need to be planted.
    But GDP has no desire.
  49. iConst
    iConst 18 November 2013 10: 28
    0
    Strange, Wasserman voiced the common truth: "as it should be according to the mind." the same success can be guided by the experience of some other countries of different periods.

    The vector of turning to one's "origins" - to the history of one's country can only be justified by patriotic feelings.

    There is only danger: those methods and evaluation criteria may not be applicable in the current situation.

    The bottom line is only common sense.
  50. iConst
    iConst 18 November 2013 10: 28
    0
    Strange, Wasserman voiced the common truth: "as it should be according to the mind." With the same success, you can focus on the experience of some other countries of certain periods.

    The vector of referring exclusively to their "origins" - to the history of their country can only be justified by patriotic feelings.

    There is only danger: those methods and evaluation criteria may not be applicable in the current situation.

    The bottom line is only common sense.