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And the whole world is not enough

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And the whole world is not enough

The epic confrontation between the White House and Congress created the illusion of serious contradictions between the two American "parties in power". However, quarrels on domestic issues do not prevent the Democrats and Republicans from pursuing a common foreign policy. And here the “peacemaker” Obama, by cruelty and cynicism, has long jumped around the “cowboy” of Bush Jr.


If, before the fall of the Eastern bloc, the United States had to reckon with the realities of the bipolar world in international matters, then from the beginning of the 90s of the last century, Washington could act without regard to the world community. Under 41 US President, Republican George W. Bush, the term "humanitarian intervention" emerged and was filled with suicidal content, which became the calling card and indulgence for the United States. Under the pretext of "preventing the genocide of the local population or a humanitarian catastrophe," the White House itself issued permission to invade the territory of any state. Without UN Security Council sanctions and reasons.

The object of a trial "humanitarian intervention" was Somalia. The debut failed: after the "fall of the black hawk" and the death of 18 Rangers, America withdrew its contingent from this African country. Political differences did not prevent Democrat Bill Clinton enthusiastically support the initiative of his Republican predecessor and send 3000 marines to "restore democratic norms of life and human rights" in Haiti. The operation really came out "humanitarian" - the United States lost only one soldier in the island state and almost 4 a month after the invasion.

After waving the United States decided that it was time to test their own military power and the patience of the world community in the matter more seriously. Yugoslavia has hit Washington. Half a century after the Second World War, bombs began to fall again in the center of Europe and the blood of civilians began to flow. In six years, "humanitarian" operations by the United States and its NATO allies killed thousands of people and tore apart the once united country. According to many observers, the war in the Balkans, Bill Clinton tried to distract the attention of Americans from the scandal with Monica Lewinsky, for which he almost paid the impeachment.

Surprisingly, opponents of the Democrats, who themselves released the genie of "humanitarian intervention" from the bottle, attacked Clinton for ... the use of military force in a situation that does not affect the vital interests of the United States! Condoleezza Rice, at that time, an adviser to presidential candidate George W. Bush, first announced this during the election campaign of 2000. Criticizing the actions of the United States in the Balkans, she reprimanded the Democrats that "American troops should not be used to protect schoolchildren." And she added meaningfully: "George Bush ... will never use foreign policy in the narrow interests of the party." The future head of the White House himself did not keep silent and said the famous phrase: “I don’t think that our troops are meant for so-called state-building.

Ten years after the end of the Cold War, September 11 2001, George W. Bush began his own - with international terrorism. Under its cover, the United States expanded the goals of "humanitarian intervention" to the overthrow of political regimes that disliked Washington and the physical elimination of their leaders. In formulating the doctrine of confronting a new enemy, Bush made it clear that the goals of American foreign policy are defined: "... today's war on terrorism is like a cold one." This is an ideological struggle with an enemy who despises freedom and pursues totalitarian goals. ” Global domination has begun. To begin with, "bombed into the stone age" (to quote them into the stone age - a quote from the Vietnam War) Afghanistan. Following, armed with the words of the 43 President: “We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth in order to defend our great nation,” the United States invaded Iraq.

On the example of the Iraq war, the well-known American political scientist, philosopher and writer Francis Fukuyama noted that the "party of an elephant" and "party of an ass" again changed places in their interpretation of American interests around the world. “Republicans actually adopted a policy of“ humanitarian intervention ”and unlimited support for democracy,” Fukuyama argued in his article published in March 2005, “and the Democrats, on the contrary, spoke in favor of pragmatism, caution, and put national security in the narrow the interpretation of this concept. "

At that time, neither Fukuyama, nor anyone else suspected that the charming Democrat Obama, who had replaced the rude Republican Bush, would successfully continue his predecessor’s foreign policy and even surpass him in some things. For starters, compare two quotes. “Our war on terror begins with al-Qaida, but this will not end. It will not end until every terrorist group in the world is found, stopped, and defeated ”(President George W. Bush, September 20, 2001). “Our main goal is to let the world know that the United States will continue to fight violence and terror. Our actions will be decisive and effective, in accordance with our values ​​and ideals” (President Barack Obama, January 22 2009). Similar words followed common words.

The US itself has fostered international terrorism. Bush has breathed life into him with an invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, and Obama with awkward actions in the Middle East and North Africa. By declaring bin Laden and Co. global war, Bush gave the US military the opportunity to kill without trial anywhere in the world. The main instrument of its fight against terrorism was the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), whose powers have already been significantly expanded by Barack Obama. Jeremy Scahill, correspondent for The Nation magazine, Jeremy Scahill, author of the best-selling book about the global war of the United States and its many victims, “Dirty Wars: Peace as a Field of Battle,” believes that Obama will enter history as the president, who legitimized the right of the United States to conduct murder operations around the world. "

In the cause of the impunity of destroying the enemies of America, the Nobel Peace Prize laureate relied on drones, and did not miss. For Bush’s two presidential terms, drones only used 52 times for attacks against human targets, for the first four years of Obama ten times more often! The acting head of the White House found a weak link in the foreign policy of his predecessor: the coffins with the bodies of American soldiers who died thousands of kilometers from their native shores do not in the best way affect the mood of the electorate. Therefore, it is better to destroy those who represent a threat to the interests of the United States either with the hands of mercenaries or with the help of UAVs, cruise missiles and smart bombs. Obama really knows a lot about killing people!

Perhaps, this is where the differences in Washington’s foreign policy under Republican Bush and Democrat Obama end. Bush began the hunt for bin Laden, Obama brought it to the end. Bush signed the Patriot Act, which gave the government and intelligence agencies virtually unlimited powers to spy on their own and not only citizens. Under Obama, thanks to Snowden, the true extent of United States electronic espionage across the world has become known.

In addition, Bush and Obama have one more, the most important, common feature. Every American president, whether it is “red” or “blue,” understands perfectly well that the existence of the United States is completely dependent on the leading position in the world. And the decision maker in the White House must be ready for any crime, unimaginable baseness or insane sacrifices in order to preserve the status quo.
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  1. sergey32
    sergey32 16 November 2013 08: 25 New
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    coffins with the bodies of American soldiers who died thousands of kilometers from their native shores do not in the best way affect the mood of the electorate. Therefore, those who pose a threat to the interests of the United States, it is better to destroy either the hands of mercenaries, or with the help of drones, cruise missiles and smart bombs. Obama is really good at killing people!

    And what’s better how in our Caucasus we lose military and police officers while eliminating bandits? We must develop our own effective drones and other means so as not to lose people, and get terrorists even in the Caucasus, even in Saudi Arabia or in London.
    1. alone
      alone 16 November 2013 16: 19 New
      +5
      The photo on the article reminded me of the movie "From Dusk Till Dawn." I won't say anything about the film, but Bush and Obama look like the GEKKO brothers)))))
    2. APES
      APES 16 November 2013 18: 26 New
      +8
      Quote: sergey32
      And what is better like ours


      note:

      Jeremy Scahill, author of the bestselling US global war and its many victims, Dirty Wars: The World as a Battlefield, believes Obama will "go down in history as the president who legitimized the United States' right to conduct assassination operations around the world."


      Honestly - I want, I wish a Russian statesman who would legitimize:

      the inevitable and without statute of limitations prosecution and destruction of any (regardless of position, social status, citizenship, etc. etc.) enemies of Russia and its people anywhere in the world and at any time - (personal responsibility - blamed McCain - get an awl in a chair - like that)

      I think it will be much more effective than drones (they will be much less needed if they are hit on the head, not on the fingers), although they will come in handy.
      1. Gooch v. 2
        Gooch v. 2 17 November 2013 12: 19 New
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        Quote: APES
        the inevitable and without statute of limitations prosecution and destruction of any (regardless of position, social status, citizenship, etc. etc.) enemies of Russia and its people anywhere in the world and at any time - (personal responsibility - blamed McCain - get an awl in a chair - like that)

        By posts of this kind, you prove that a Russian is a lackey with Stockholm syndrome. That is - a little man accustomed and pocked, at the same time identifying himself with the tormentors and transferring the blame to the victims of the same tormentors (of course, not on himself, but on others).

        The Russian girl who was raped is always “to blame”: “there is nothing to walk in the street in a short skirt.” The man who fell under the cop's baton is to blame - why did the law enforcement officer, tired of the sight of the townsfolk who walk and look so wrong, catch my eye. The people, of course, are to blame for the fact that they have such bosses - and therefore must endure them as punishment for enduring them (yes, the Russians have such logic). What enemies are you looking for overseas? Based on your statements, you are your own enemy, if only because you cannot call yourself a master on your own land.
    3. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 17 November 2013 10: 54 New
      0
      if you recall the story, when the pentoses bore the status of an overseas backwater and pursued a policy of non-interference, I liked them more ...
    4. Cherdak
      Cherdak 17 November 2013 14: 46 New
      +1
      And we can only talk about freedom and democracy ...
      Quote: sergey32
      Therefore, those who pose a threat to the interests of the United States, it is better to destroy either the hands of mercenaries, or with the help of drones, cruise missiles and smart bombs



      That’s for sure, but how do you get them upset. Better to substitute others ...
  2. andrei332809
    andrei332809 16 November 2013 15: 56 New
    +5
    “We will export death and violence to the four ends of the Earth for the defense of our great nation”

    so here is the exclusivity then! and I, I thought badly about the Yankees recourse
    thank you for the article. well, that’s short, otherwise this topic can be developed indefinitely hi
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    2. APES
      APES 16 November 2013 18: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: andrei332809
      than exclusivity


      I'm more interested in something else:

      “Our primary goal is to make it clear to the world that the United States will continue to fight violence and terror. Our actions will be decisive and effective, in accordance with our values ​​and ideals” (President Barack Obama, January 22, 2009).


      In terms of values ​​and ideals

      Can anyone really say - explain what they mean?
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 16 November 2013 18: 54 New
        +6
        Quote: APES
        In terms of values ​​and ideals

        Can anyone really say - explain what they mean?

        value is what you have in your "pockets" and ideally this content should be theirs. in, connected the value and the ideal in American style, and was even surprised himself belay
        1. APES
          APES 16 November 2013 19: 11 New
          +1
          it remains to come up with the name of the mental disorder of the suffering people who are being led to this

          I think Freud alone cannot explain it. request
    3. timer
      timer 16 November 2013 19: 41 New
      0
      Thanks for that? For the fact that it is already clear to many that the United States is enemy number 1 for Russia and the rest of the world. That the United States is a trash heap, not an "ideal of democracy."
      That human rights are violated in the United States (total surveillance of NSA citizens). Etc. you can enumerate a lot. I notice that articles on the military review site more and more often began to appear where clarity is obvious (like this article), but the author of the article allegedly "discovered America." The comrades of the site smacks of unprofessionalism.
      1. Cherdak
        Cherdak 17 November 2013 15: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: timer
        The United States is a trash heap, not an "ideal of democracy."



        Relax your soul!
        1. kaper
          kaper 17 November 2013 18: 43 New
          +1
          As Pyongyang recalls, it’s right one to one. It’s true that if you look like that, they will shoot. But all who envy this, for some reason think that they will shoot, not them.
  3. ivshubarin
    ivshubarin 16 November 2013 16: 02 New
    +3
    There was already a world hegemon in the person of England, but was blown away. It will be the same with the USA
    1. APES
      APES 16 November 2013 19: 13 New
      0
      Quote: ivshubarin
      There was already a world hegemon


      and in whose interests are the US acting?
      1. scrack
        scrack 16 November 2013 23: 26 New
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        Alternatively, besides England, Israel
  4. major071
    major071 16 November 2013 16: 08 New
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    And the one who makes decisions in the White House must be prepared for any crime, unthinkable baseness or insane sacrifices in order to maintain the status quo.

    This quote alone shows the whole essence of the United States. stop
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 17 November 2013 05: 26 New
      +1
      Yeah, neither turn it down nor add winked
  5. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 16 November 2013 16: 10 New
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    The cold war continues, in places hot. As long as I remember (since the 50s), US policy does not change negative
  6. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 16 November 2013 16: 11 New
    +5
    A political performance called: U.S. election is intended to show, first of all, to the average American, the "greatest" democracy of America. But in fact, who cares who the president, democrat or republican is. The essence of American politics does not change at all. Power in America has moneybags financial oligarchy. And presidents are proteges of this clan. Therefore, aggressive American politics will never change. Billions of dollars in Pentagon military orders are being turned into "democratic" bombs in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Libya, and so on.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 16 November 2013 16: 21 New
      +3
      Every American president, no matter "red" or "blue," is well aware that the existence of the United States is completely dependent on its leading position in the world. And the one who makes decisions in the White House must be ready for any crime, unthinkable baseness or insane sacrifices in order to maintain the status quo.

      This status quo means the power of the USA, and those who have grandmothers have power in the USA. The American president dries them, no matter "red" or "blue, and must be ready for any crime.
      1. Kirzhak
        Kirzhak 16 November 2013 17: 05 New
        +3
        I absolutely agree with you and Ivanych47. In America itself, democracy, in the universal human sense of the word, is no more than in Russia. The mere fact that a candidate with fewer votes can become their president speaks for itself. And the entire foreign policy of their president is aimed at protecting the interests of those who sponsored his campaign. And all these tales about the "struggle for democracy" around the world are for the average American, who, for the most part, does not care about anything except events in his state.
  7. Humpty
    Humpty 16 November 2013 16: 17 New
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    The Serbs in Belgrade during the war hid from the Germans a little Jewish girl, Madeleine. Thanked.
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 16 November 2013 16: 27 New
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      Quote: Humpty
      The Serbs in Belgrade during the war hid from the Germans a little Jewish girl, Madeleine. Thanked.


      Yeah, the Serbs have pierced here. And seriously.
      1. Troy
        Troy 16 November 2013 16: 36 New
        +3
        The road to hell is paved with good intentions, truly.
        1. tomas.09
          tomas.09 16 November 2013 17: 04 New
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          So help the Jews after that !!! Sad it all
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      3. valton
        valton 16 November 2013 18: 44 New
        -5
        Quote: Humpty
        The Serbs in Belgrade during the war hid from the Germans a little Jewish girl, Madeleine. Thanked.


        During blood tests of people of different nationalities
        scientists E.O. Manoilov et al. Found that when exposed to test reagents, the blood of the Slavs remains red,
        and among Jews, Arabs, Turks, Armenians, Hindus, Iranians - among strangers, “blood” turns pale and turns blue-green.

        http://selenadia.livejournal.com/347637.html
        1. kush62
          kush62 17 November 2013 08: 50 New
          +1
          walton, which means no avatar. Put a photo with a compass, you will measure the size of the skulls. In fascist Germany, this has already passed.
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 17 November 2013 05: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Humpty
      The Serbs in Belgrade during the war hid from the Germans a little Jewish girl, Madeleine. Thanked.

      Quote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright
      Albright spent the war years in England, while her father worked for Beneš's Czechoslovak government-in-exile. They first lived on Kensington Park Road in Notting Hill, London, where they endured the worst of The Blitz
      The Russian-language version of Wikipedia says that they were hiding in Serbia, and the English-language version says that the whole war, since the Germans occupied Czechoslovakia, her family spent in London, where her father worked for the Czechoslovak government in exile, led by Benes. And what to believe?
  8. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 16 November 2013 16: 33 New
    +5
    In the fact that the states say one thing and do another, you can stop being surprised, and all this confrontation between Republicans and Democrats resembles the “fight of the Nanai boys!” Yes, in principle, this is all for external consumption!
  9. avg
    avg 16 November 2013 17: 05 New
    +5
    But mattress makers also have such qualities that our politicians will not be a sin to learn. For example, informational cover, but in fact, hiding behind verbal diarrhea of ​​their real actions. As an example, we can cite such concepts as: "Humanitarian disaster", "No-fly zone", "Fight against terrorism." But the use of the term "Reset" is especially indicative. (Which, exactly according to Freud, turned out to be "Overload"). What kind of beast is this no one knows what its meaning is. But one has only to exclaim: "We have announced a reset to Russia, and they are good!", as the whole "civilized world" begins to shake their heads reproachfully and regret the ingratitude of these strange Russians. The most interesting thing is that they already believe in it.request
    1. Grbear
      Grbear 17 November 2013 09: 02 New
      +1
      Dear avg.
      I do not approve of your wish for our "heads" to learn verbal diarrhea. First, what kind of respect for them, in this case, can we talk about? Secondly, ours themselves "revile" not badly, so that they cause irritation, smoothly turning into itching of fists angry .

      And they believe in bucks and strength, which corresponds to the level of spiritual development hi .
      1. avg
        avg 17 November 2013 22: 58 New
        0
        Dear, GrBear.
        It is important to share motivation.
        When, under the guise of verbal diarrhea about the "fight against terrorism," the Yankers kill whoever they want - that's one thing. And when ours cannot provide a worthy informational cover for such a good cause as "Defense of South Ossetia from Georgian aggression", then this is different. And this is what I urge to learn.
  10. michasoci
    michasoci 16 November 2013 17: 07 New
    -1
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/695/ybbt436.jpg а кто это?
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 16 November 2013 17: 36 New
      +2
      And what was allowed in your nursery in your kindergarten? laughing

      You cheered me up. +
    2. Jogan-xnumx
      Jogan-xnumx 16 November 2013 21: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: michasoci
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/695/ybbt436.jpg а кто это?

      Misha, are you lost in the sites, honey? You need here:
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      And when you go to school, study diligently and eventually you will learn everything. wink
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  12. UmaR
    UmaR 16 November 2013 17: 38 New
    -1
    usa this is terrorism around the world! yes
  13. kmike
    kmike 16 November 2013 18: 30 New
    +9
    There is a slight lull in the US right now, but it seems to me that this is the lull before the storm. I don’t remember whether I posted this video or not, so please excuse me if I repeat. If you didn’t watch, be sure to look.
    1. Current 72
      Current 72 17 November 2013 01: 49 New
      0
      A good video, even an excellent one, it follows that, as in the USA, there are sane PEOPLE. But the rest is the same as ours. Thank you for the video !!!
  14. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 18: 56 New
    -8
    Are there still people who believe that if there were another winner in the Cold War, would he act differently? fool
  15. konvalval
    konvalval 16 November 2013 19: 16 New
    0
    And if briefly, what is allowed to Jupiter, then the bull is not allowed. Unfortunately.
    1. scrack
      scrack 17 November 2013 00: 12 New
      0
      The bull has only one way out - to become Jupiter
  16. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 16 November 2013 20: 21 New
    +2
    "Yugoslavia has hit Washington's crosshairs."
    It happened 100 years ago. History repeats itself. The Balkans is the powder keg of Europe, said Winston Churchill. They know where to hit.
  17. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 16 November 2013 20: 36 New
    +2
    Every American president, no matter "red" or "blue," is well aware that the existence of the United States is completely dependent on its leading position in the world. And the one who makes decisions in the White House must be ready for any crime, unthinkable baseness or insane sacrifices in order to maintain the status quo.

    How rope does not curl, and be the end.
    The Yankees do not want to live honestly, like people, disappear like parasites.
  18. s1н7т
    s1н7т 16 November 2013 21: 29 New
    +8
    "the existence of the United States depends entirely on its leading position in the world" ...
    It is interesting that our FAS can say about this? laughing
    For some reason I do not like America. Maybe a happy Soviet childhood is to blame? From which he grew up in the military. So that other children also had a childhood.
    1. Jogan-xnumx
      Jogan-xnumx 16 November 2013 22: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: c1n7
      For some reason I do not like America. Maybe a happy Soviet childhood is to blame? From which he grew up in the military. So that other children also had a childhood.

      Oddly enough, but I can say the same thing word for word, colleague. drinks
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 17 November 2013 20: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: Jogan-64
        I can say the same thing word for word

        So, not everything is lost yet. And America still has a chance - to return everything to the Indians laughing drinks
        1. Jogan-xnumx
          Jogan-xnumx 18 November 2013 21: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: c1n7
          And America still has a chance - to return everything to the Indians

          And they will return! Where are they going to go? soldier And we will help the Indians ..., restore the population of bison ... lol drinks
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 18 November 2013 21: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: Jogan-64
            And we will help the Indians ..., restore the population of bison ...
            Well, then "knock off the horns" by these very ... "bison"
  19. Irokez
    Irokez 16 November 2013 22: 33 New
    +7
    The USA was created by European adventurers and schemers, and naturally, with their European mentality, the Slavs are very different and alien to us. As we were their number one enemy, they remained and will always disturb us, pack up and spread rot until they conquer us. But I feel it will be forever because they won’t conquer.
    And if the USA would collapse during the Cold War, then everything would collapse from the depreciation of the dollar (by the way, right now there is such a threat). And the USSR acted as a counterweight to the US and NATO monopolies rather than back. That is, we were a deterrent, not a crushing factor.
    - Russia was in the first world as a deterrent to the redivision of Europe (but they threw us and crippled the revolution).
    - The USSR in World War II as a deterrent from fascism (but very bloodless).
    - Russia now acts as a deterrent to unipolarity and an alternative to permissiveness of the corpse-eating eagle.
    And note wherever there is a big war there is the participation of Russia. And most likely because it is, as it were, an arbiter and a lever for calming the presumptuous local kings, kings and bais.
    Well, do not be Russia, and then what.
    - The French empire with Emperor Napoleon would own Europe.
    - The Baltic Sea would be the inland sea of ​​Sweden.
    - The German-Italian Empire replaced the French Empire.
    - The golden billion would rule all over the planet, led by a world government, and everyone would live well and happily. Exceptional blue-blooded crocodiles also want to incline the whole unipolar world to this.
    Everywhere, this Russia hinders civilized, highly spiritual soul-mates and cannibals from building a pink-blue world with virtual happiness and pleasures of all carnal freedoms and lusts.
    And after all, you know, such barbarians, Scythians, Slavs live in this Russia and well, they do not want to go like everyone else (the rest of the world) and it turns out that they are somehow wrong, others and what they want is incomprehensible. Eh-x-x-x Russian soul and where is the "STOP" button, well, at least "Restart"?
    You’ll find horseradish, everything works without buttons with an internal power source, and if there is a button, then for visibility, and without a single wire to it.
    1. Army1
      Army1 17 November 2013 00: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Irokez
      USA created by European adventurers and schemers

      First of all, very smart people, I'm afraid everything that happened in the world since the creation of the United States was the hands of the United States.
      1. Kushadasov
        Kushadasov 17 November 2013 13: 46 New
        +1
        I'm afraid everything that happened in the world since the creation of the USA was the hands of the USA.



        do you mean everything bad?
        1. Army1
          Army1 17 November 2013 18: 35 New
          0
          Quote: Kushadasov
          I'm afraid everything that happened in the world since the creation of the USA was the hands of the USA.



          do you mean everything bad?

          Of course, the truth is bad for us and the whole world, but for them it’s good, and I don’t understand what they are minus.
    2. Cap
      Cap 17 November 2013 00: 55 New
      +8
      It's not about the Europeans. It's about the British and their religion. That pseudo-Christianity called "Anglicanism" was created by King Henry the 8th of England. He created it, declaring himself the head of the church, after the Pope refused to give him another extraordinary divorce. All over Britain, Catholic priests were tortured and slaughtered, and the property of the church went into the possession of the king. Henry 8, as head of the church, sold church posts. What subsequently began to be done in Naglia with the nobility and with the officer ranks.
      The essence of Anglicanism is that God loves only the rich (otherwise they would not have become rich), and it doesn’t matter how this money is obtained - if God considered it wrong, he would not let the dough be cut. That is, you can kill, rob, rape, sell people into slavery and disassemble them into organs - you can do anything if it brings grandmas.
      And the Anglicans, together with their descendants - Americans, simply do not understand: how someone can have other moral values. Therefore, they hate us and try to preach their sectarianism in Russia as well (Mormons, Baptists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Adventists for 7 days - they all separated from Anglicanism and are all registered in the USA as commercial enterprises).
      So, they have been trying to eradicate us since the time of Ivan the Terrible - but somehow everything doesn’t work out ...
  20. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 16 November 2013 22: 37 New
    0
    Yes, the USA is truly an exceptional country. Exceptionally, the whole world has reached such an impudence that it will soon be drowned without nuclear weapons in both oceans ...
  21. their
    their 16 November 2013 22: 43 New
    +2
    In America, it does not matter who comes to power. Behind any parties there is capital and some kind of lobby. The most powerful lobby is the Israeli-Jewish ADL, AIPAC, and so on dozens of them. They are under both the Republicans and the Democrats. As a result, it turns out that Congress does not at all defend the interests of America in foreign and domestic policy, but the interests of Israel and world Jewry with the money of the Jewish Fed and the oligarchy. In America, all presidents since Kennedy were puppets and lobbyists of certain financial circles.
  22. EdwardTich68
    EdwardTich68 16 November 2013 22: 44 New
    -4
    I don’t want to throw beads. I'm too lazy. Even typing was too lazy.
  23. klavyr
    klavyr 16 November 2013 23: 06 New
    +1
    ... Obama is really good at killing people!
    - precisely said, a true successor of the "traditions" of his closest predecessors
  24. PValery53
    PValery53 17 November 2013 01: 29 New
    +3
    Of course, the time will come, and the United States, for its impunity in the world, will catch "adventures" on its 5th point, and it will not seem a little.
  25. individual
    individual 17 November 2013 08: 22 New
    +1
    The Republicans or Democrats in the United States are at the heart of the big game, where one program is presented: Saving the World's Golden Billion in States.
    The name of the parties does not mean anything; they are just different packages for suckers when choosing a selective product.
    For the people of the USA and for the peoples of the WORLD, these elections and their change of power mean nothing. Wrong decisions are made there. hi
  26. Dimy4
    Dimy4 17 November 2013 08: 39 New
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    Quote: tomas.09
    So help the Jews after that !!! Sad it all

    Yes, of course, the mechanic had a garage, a neighbor asked me, they say, let’s get attached to your wall that simple soul allowed. In less than six months, a neighbor has filed a lawsuit against the demolition of a mechanic’s garage as an illegal building. To the people b ...!
  27. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 17 November 2013 10: 47 New
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    The Nation's Jeremy Scahill, author of the bestselling US global war and its many victims, Dirty Wars: The World as a Battlefield, believes Obama will "go down in history as the president who legitimized the United States' right to conduct worldwide murder operations ".
    In the case of the unpunished destruction of the enemies of America, the Nobel Peace Prize winner made a bet on drones, and did not miss. During Bush’s two presidential terms, drones were used only 52 times for attacks on human targets, and Obama’s ten times more often in the first four years!

    If you look at the history of the United States objectively, without hypocritical reverence, you can immediately see that all the presidents were the inspirers of the genocide. Harry Truman, the mass murderer of women and children, was especially famous for having 350 alive in Japan, including infants who are especially dangerous for the US Marine Corps. They are all there from the birth of the ninja.
    The United States began as a country of murderers who occupied a foreign land and destroyed indigenous people. There is no democracy and freedom in the USA, never has been and could not be. The whole state rests on the threat of murder and violence. It is unlikely that in the US there is an apartment or a house without a firearm.
    1. baku1999
      baku1999 17 November 2013 11: 35 New
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      TRUE AROUND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  28. komel
    komel 17 November 2013 11: 28 New
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    The Sunday Times: Israel and Saudi Arabia are preparing an attack on Iran, but targeted strikes will not lead to the desired result. The Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Jerida reported on Sunday, November 17, that US President Barack Obama refused to answer phone calls from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu due to the conflict over Iran's nuclear program.
  29. baku1999
    baku1999 17 November 2013 11: 34 New
    +2
    ONE CAPTED A GOLDEN FISH AND MYSTERED HER DESIRE: I WANT TO SPEAK THAT THIS RIVER SAID ALL THE INDOS OF THE WORLD IN Coffins ........... YOU THINK, BECAUSE THERE ARE ALSO GOOD. WELL, GOOD AND INDOS IN GOOD MUSHROOMS, HORNY IN HORNY .................
  30. Selevc
    Selevc 17 November 2013 12: 18 New
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    Laughing, the United States decided that it was time to test our own military power and the patience of the world community in business more seriously. Yugoslavia hit Washington's sight. Half a century after the Second World War, bombs began to burst again in the center of Europe and bloodshed of civilians.
    Complete lies and delirium !!! All 90s in Yugoslavia killed civilians just at the hands of their own former fellow citizens !!! Slovenia against Yugoslavia, Croatia against Serbia, Bosnia against Serbia and so on ... The names Dubrovnik, Srebrenica, Sarajevo were constantly on everyone’s ears ... Someone else will be cut out, then the other way around ...
    The NATO operation, no matter how they criticized them, stopped this endless conflict ... But as they say a bad world is better than a good war !!!

    Yugoslavia, in the form in which it was in the 20th century, was beneficial to the West - not capitalism but also socialism ... The presence of such a strange formation in the Eastern Bloc completely weakened it ... In the 90s, this motley state became unnecessary The West and it began to gradually shake ... But this is not the main reason for the Yugoslav catastrophe - Yugoslav politicians themselves had to peacefully decide the future of their country - either an alliance, or a confederation, or a peaceful divorce, or other options - instead they chose a forceful solution problems !!! And they got to the point that everything that was possible was torn from Serbia - and in the event of a peaceful solution to the Yugoslav issue, the Union of Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia would be quite viable ...
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 17 November 2013 14: 04 New
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      Quote: Selevc
      The NATO operation, no matter how they criticized them, stopped this endless conflict.

      NATO covered (not just an aviation umbrella!) Bosniaks and Croats, without the protection the victory of the destructive forces would have been unattainable. I quote from Wikipedia: "Operation Allied Force") is a NATO military operation against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia from March 24 to June 10, 1999, during the war in Kosovo, carried out without the permission of the UN Security Council ... ".
      Quote: Selevc
      But as they say a bad world is better than a good war !!!

      The Versailles Peace, then the Munich Agreement, then the Second World War. It would sound more logical: a good world is better than a bad war!
      1. Selevc
        Selevc 17 November 2013 15: 37 New
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        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        NATO protected (not just an aviation umbrella!) Bosnians and Croats, without protection the victory of destructive forces would have been unattainable.

        What kind of umbrellas? You may not remember well the events in Yugoslavia in the 90s - there was a positional war - a war of snipers and mobile groups ... Serbian enclaves fought in Bosnia and Croatia !!! This is the result of the fact that back in the early 90s, Serbs, Croats, Bosnians and others could not peacefully resolve the territorial issue !!! In 99, I already had the final of all this bloody drama - NATO hit Serbia without a UN mandate, but nevertheless the world has been in the Balkans for more than 10 years !!!

        And our tourists, who travel to Montenegro and Croatia in huge numbers, support the independence and prosperity of these small Balkan countries, which for that short time after the Balkan Wars were able to successfully develop the tourism sector, but about Serbia (like our European brothers) this is not say !!!
    2. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 17 November 2013 15: 39 New
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      Quote: Selevc
      All 90s in Yugoslavia killed civilians just at the hands of their own former fellow citizens !!! Slovenia against Yugoslavia, Croatia against Serbia, Bosnia against Serbia and so on ... The names Dubrovnik, Srebrenica, Sarajevo were always well-known to everyone ... Someone else will be cut out the other way around ...
      The NATO operation, no matter how they criticized them, stopped this endless conflict ... But as they say a bad world is better than a good war !!!

      All conflicts in Yugoslavia were initiated by US and NATO intelligence agencies, separatists received money, weapons and diplomatic support from the West.
      The US and NATO attacks were carried out only against the Serbs, the Muslim beast, which was the instrument of the West, appeared in the Western media as victims, and the Orthodox Serbs who were cut out as aggressors.
      NATO and the US openly intervened in the internal affairs of Yugoslavia when the Serbs began to oust the bestial gangs of Albanian Muslims from the originally Serbian Kosovo.
      The Albanians, Bosnians, Croats have long been used by the West against the Serbs, Russia's natural allies in the Balkans.
      Only the betrayal of the filthy drunk Beni allowed the Yankees to break the Serbs and gain a foothold in the Balkans.
      1. Selevc
        Selevc 17 November 2013 17: 21 New
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        Quote: Corsair5912
        The Albanians, Bosnians, Croats have long been used by the West against the Serbs, Russia's natural allies in the Balkans.

        Listen, why then, thousands of Russian tourists have a rest in Croatia and not in Serbia and leave their bucks there and not in Serbia, which now needs economic growth more than ever? It turns out that Russia indirectly supports the enemies of Serbia in practice, and the fraternity only in words !!! And why is it full of Russians in Thailand and not in friendly Vietnam?
        So many patriots in words and so few of them in practice ...
        Quote: Corsair5912
        The US and NATO attacks were carried out only against the Serbs, the Muslim beast, which was the instrument of the West, appeared in the Western media as victims, and the Orthodox Serbs who were cut out as aggressors.

        I repeat once again for those who do not understand - the Serbs fought in the Balkans since the beginning of the 90s and NATO intervened there only at the very end of the 90s !!! And by the way, the crimes of Bosnian Muslims and not only Serbs were also considered in an international court in The Hague !!!
        And the fact that the actual Balkan wars of the 90s went on the territory of Bosnia and Croatia already says a lot !!! What did the Serbs forget?
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 17 November 2013 19: 27 New
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          Quote: Selevc
          Listen, why then, thousands of Russian tourists have a rest in Croatia and not in Serbia and leave their bucks there and not in Serbia, which now needs economic growth more than ever? It turns out that Russia indirectly supports the enemies of Serbia in practice, and the fraternity only in words !!! And why is it full of Russians in Thailand and not in friendly Vietnam?
          So many patriots in words and so few of them in practice ...

          Tourists in choosing a vacation spot are guided not by patriotism (what kind of patriotism can Russians have in Serbia or Vietnam), but by the possibilities and connections of travel agencies. Russia does not regulate the movement of tourists, everyone chooses a vacation spot himself, and now in Serbia there is no access to the sea.
          I repeat once again for those who do not understand - the Serbs fought in the Balkans since the beginning of the 90s and NATO intervened there only at the very end of the 90s !!! And by the way, the crimes of Bosnian Muslims and not only Serbs were also considered in an international court in The Hague !!!
          And the fact that the actual Balkan wars of the 90s went on the territory of Bosnia and Croatia already says a lot !!! What did the Serbs forget?

          I repeat once again that the secret war of the West against the socialist countries has never stopped. The whole territory of Yugoslavia is the homeland of the Orthodox Serbs. In the territory of Bosnia and Croatia, the same Serbs live as in Serbia. Only part of the Bosnians are Muslims, and part of the Croats are Catholics, descendants of invaders and traitors who betrayed the faith of their fathers and grandfathers.
          The massacre of the peaceful Orthodox Serb population by Bosnians and Croats, with the support of foreign invaders, was in the 1st and 2nd world wars.
          But, as soon as the Serbs begin to prevail over an inverted beast, the whole two-standard West attacks them, all the filthy Hitlers, Clintons, Merkels and other scum are one team.
          1. Selevc
            Selevc 17 November 2013 21: 45 New
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            Quote: Corsair5912
            Tourists in choosing a vacation spot are guided not by patriotism (what kind of patriotism can Russians have in Serbia or Vietnam), but by the possibilities and connections of travel agencies. Russia does not regulate the movement of tourists, everyone chooses a vacation spot himself, and now in Serbia there is no access to the sea.

            Tourism is also an important sector of the economy - there are many examples of countries that have risen on tourism and this industry is a major source of income in the economy ... Tourism development is also an option of good-neighborly, long-term and mutually beneficial relations ... Who or what, for example, is preventing Russia from making Vietnam tourist center of east Asia? - the country is beautiful, the people have a very positive attitude towards Russians ... Who is stopping the construction of tourism infrastructure for Russian business there? The economy of Vietnam would be flowing and Russian tourists would be very happy resting in their hotels in this country ... This could become one of the important areas of long-term cooperation with Vietnam ... I honestly did not understand back in the Soviet years why such modest economic relations were between the USSR and Vietnam, as opposed to Thailand, which always focused on the West .. The same applies to Serbia - a beautiful country has something to see - there is no access to the sea - but there is the Danube, ancient cities and much more ... All developed countries at all times oriented their economic relations to friendly countries - giving it priority - and Russia, as always, has its own path that no one in the world understands !!!
            The whole territory of Yugoslavia is the homeland of the Orthodox Serbs.

            Well, here you are completely bent - the territories of Yugoslavia is the birthplace of the Balkan peoples ... Try to tell the Macedonian or Slovenian that his country is the birthplace of the Serbs - they will be laughing at best ... Look at the maps of Serbia in the late 19th and early 20th centuries - before the creation of the SFRY - the borders of Serbia were just like Seyas - but by the way, Kosovo was taken away from them and that's all ...

            As for the SFRY section, there is a peaceful example of neighbors - the Czech Republic and Slovakia split up peacefully - although based on your logic, the terrible West there should have arranged a massacre too ... Although I’m sure that over the years of Czechoslovakia’s existence, these two peoples also mixed up ...
        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 18 November 2013 16: 15 New
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          Quote: Selevc
          And by the way, the crimes of Bosnian Muslims and not only Serbs were also considered in an international court in The Hague !!!

          Just something pestilence attacked the Serbian prisoners, bypassing the Bosniaks, and the Ustashi, whom you somehow missed, are generally sweet and pleasant, so soft, white and fluffy ... Probably because the Uniate is a Catholic: friend, comrade and brother .
          Quote: Selevc
          What did the Serbs forget?

          They protected the slaughtered Serb population from your twin cities.
  31. shinobi
    shinobi 17 November 2013 13: 10 New
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    Who were the American "founding fathers"? So everything is natural. America is a bandit on the trade route. The bandit must be extinguished, he only understands strength.
    1. Gooch v. 2
      Gooch v. 2 17 November 2013 13: 31 New
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      Quote: shinobi
      Who were the American "founding fathers"? So everything is natural. America is a bandit on the trade route. The bandit must be extinguished, he only understands strength.

      Where does the bandit get such a culture, science, army, economy?)
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 17 November 2013 14: 24 New
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        Quote: Gooch v.2
        Where does the bandit get such a culture, science, army, economy?)

        1. CULTURE: Al Capone was also friends with cultural people!
        2. SCIENCE: Well-funded internationally-intellectual migrant workers.
        3. ARMY: Well-funded mercenaries. What% of Anglo-Saxons in its ranks?
        4. ECONOMY: The modern American economy is based on the Fed's printing press and the ever-growing domestic public debt of the USA.
  32. Gooch v. 2
    Gooch v. 2 17 November 2013 15: 03 New
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    Quote: 11111mail.ru
    1. CULTURE: Al Capone was also friends with cultural people!

    And what about Al-Capone?) Or is your culture regarded purely by criminal elements?)
    well then see for yourself who looks more culturally and who does more cultural things.)



    2. SCIENCE: Well-funded internationally-intellectual migrant workers.

    Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Robert Goddard, John Bardin, William Shockley, Walter Brattain, Eli Whitney, Cyrus McCormick, Thomas Alv Edison, Samuel Morse, The Wilbur Brothers and Orville Wright and many many others, but these are the pioneers of the initial breakthroughs of the USA, which I don’t see any Russian, Uzbek or Tajik? Where are the guest workers? Maybe this is the fruit of your bad fantasies?

    3. ARMY: Well-funded mercenaries. What% of Anglo-Saxons in its ranks?

    I don’t even think of commenting on this idiocy, you can write it now on the website of the US Defense Ministry and ask who is to be served in the US Armed Forces, it will be a surprise to you, but only people with US Citizenship or Civil Code are subject to military service, the rest are not subject to.

    4. ECONOMY: The modern American economy is based on the Fed's printing press and the ever-growing domestic public debt of the USA.

    put a machine at home, invent your own currency, and try to buy, finance, or produce something on it. In the USA, an advanced, industrially developed economy, not at the expense of dollars, but at the expense of high technology, automotive, engineering, aerospace industry, transport, R&D, developed infrastructure, the US share in world GDP is about 24%; it is foolish to say that such results were achieved purely at the expense of the dollar, debt, Fed, etc.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 17 November 2013 16: 17 New
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      Quote: Gooch v.2
      I don’t even think of commenting on this idiocy, you can write it now on the website of the US Defense Ministry and ask who is to be served in the US Armed Forces, it will be a surprise to you, but only people with US Citizenship or Civil Code are subject to military service, the rest are not subject to.

      This is not true, but ignorance or a lie having a Civil Code is not USA citizens and certainly not arrogant Saxons.
      For the first time since the Vietnam War, the US Army will begin to recruit immigrants, which will allow them to obtain US citizenship in just six months, the New York Times reported on Sunday.
      "The army will be strengthened by human resources, and immigrants will earn citizenship and find themselves on the transition to the American Dream," the newspaper quotes the words of Lieutenant General Benjamin Frickley.
      The offer is addressed to qualified immigrants who have lived in the United States on temporary visas for at least two years. Typically, the procedure for obtaining citizenship lasts much longer than six months.
      According to the Pentagon, the army now has 29 thousand people who are not US citizens. Every year, 8 thousand immigrants who have a residence permit are enlisted in the army.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 17 November 2013 20: 26 New
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      1. Frank Sinatra had VERY friendly ties with the mafia! Every cultured person knows about this "in America"!
      2.
      Quote: Gooch v.2
      pioneers of the initial breakthroughs of the USA, something I don’t see any Russian, Uzbek or Tajik

      The Great Nikola Tesla Serb (three-phase AC system in the Russian Empire Dolivo-Dobrovolsky); Zvorykin V.K. (a television); Sikorsky I.I. (aviation); It's just offhand three Russian, and even Serb!
      Gamov G.A. (physicist George Gammow was also Russian).
      In Silicon Valley there are practically no learned Americans, the basis there are Russians, Indians and Chinese.
      3. Read the answer below, there Corsair 5912 answered, very reasonably.
      4. Remember the middle of October 2013, what were the senators doing a month ago? Right! Raised the ceiling of public debt. Automotive? Visit your capital of the automotive industry: how is Detroit doing? Try to imagine: what will happen when China demands to cash your banknotes, as France did?
  33. Irokez
    Irokez 17 November 2013 15: 46 New
    +3
    Gooch v. 2
    Either in the emitter, or you understand everything that happens superficially without delving into the essence and depth of what is happening.
    Initially, the States were created by people, albeit cultural, but far from the ideals of spirituality and morality, and they were really smart in creating a state for themselves on the basis of private property for the sake of themselves and their selfish worldview. As the saying goes, the mind goes into the mind and receives a smart scum or beast parasitic on others.
    - As for scientists, this is also the basis of selfishness and profit at the expense of others. All your managers are Steve Jobs, for example, a pure manager for whom smart programmers worked. Gates is both this and that, but both are uncompromising acquisitives of others who absorb and eat everything that is profitable and throw away the waste material, regardless of any sentimentality and morality. This is the tough system of capitalism where the strongest survives and morality with spirituality and just humanity is considered weakness or humiliation "Nothing personal - just business." Before perestroika, we did not have such a thing, and right now there are still many more human and civilized than wild capitalism. We have no less minds and managers who worked for and for people than for ourselves and for ourselves.
    - The army is still hired and paid, and the poor mainly go there because of benefits in the future, but after graduation they don’t get out of the poor anyway and many benefits are on paper all the more so when the crisis is on the nose. The wealthy do not fight, and from time to time they study and serve as officers, but this is another category of business.
    - The US economy is based on borrowings and debts from the Fed's private shop, which was created by the ancestors of the modern Anglo-Saxons, the so-called cleverest creators of the United States who came from England. Having the power of money, they parasitize precisely on the US state. While they are profitable in the United States, as soon as they smell, they will throw this country. "Nothing personal just business". Then everyone knows how to borrow and build an economy and accumulate debts (for example, Japan - the same picture with debts and even more), but try to live on income and expenses without getting into debt, and then see how rapidly your economy will develop. A situation may arise that the entire US economy can be handed out for debts to the whole world, but again it will not work, because a large army created for the money of the whole world in debt, and whoever dares to return his grandmother can grab diarrhea. Further, after the war, they decided to turn the dollar into a currency for some time to raise the economies of other countries, but the States do not want to give back the uniqueness of the dollar, and even from gold they untied it and put the whole world on the needle of dollar dependence, and now everyone is being blackmailed and frightened that if we will collapse, then you will collapse. Some of them are between their tails and are advocating the rescue of the dollar and, accordingly, the US economy.
    US GDP is not only what they produced, but also what they resold. The dollar will collapse (and this is a matter of time), the penny will be for this economy.
    1. kaper
      kaper 17 November 2013 17: 18 New
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      It’s just ridiculous to read for US debts in the US currency. The dollar will not collapse if the holders of these debts do not demand the return of these debts. For if the dollar collapses, the holders of these debts will suffer first. A vicious circle is obtained. And the United States to repay the debts without any problems- we’ll print as much as you need, though the dollar will fall and who will suffer again. Even with the worse option, the entire financial system of the world will collapse, world trade will become — China will be overwhelmed with goods that no one will buy, Russia will starve, because there will be nowhere to buy food and for nothing - no one will need dollars. So no one will bury the United States, and this is absurd.
    2. kaper
      kaper 17 November 2013 17: 29 New
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      Yes, and in the global crisis, when world trade begins, the United States will suffer the least. The country is self-sufficient in food and energy, but without Versace and Dolce, Gabban will live. Yes and plus there is, they will get rid of debts. They will not declare default, and give a debt to anyone with unnecessary pieces of paper.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 17 November 2013 20: 38 New
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        Quote: kaper
        least of all the US will suffer

        Is not a fact! What happened there on October 29, 1929 in New York? Remembered? Hint: Great Depression. In 2008, only two mortgage banks went bankrupt, and stink the whole world!
  34. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 17 November 2013 15: 53 New
    +2
    Quote: Gooch v.2
    And what about Al-Capone?) Or is your culture regarded purely by criminal elements?)
    well then see for yourself who looks more culturally and who does more cultural things.)


    The definition of American civilization was given in the twentieth century by the writer Thomas Mann: "America came to civilization, bypassing culture."
    90% of scientists and inventors, to whom USAA owe the existence of science in them, are emigrants, refugees from the 1st and 2nd world wars.
    The descendants of the founding fathers of the arrogant Saxons and Puritans are stupid and barren like a stone and are not capable of anything except genocide and robbery ..
    “America is not a state or a nation. It’s just a large territory on which people from different countries temporarily live ... What is called the American people is ... an artificial conglomeration of strangers alike, united by a common passion for consumption and profit and an instinctive fear of responsibility for common crimes against humanity ”(Oleg Platonov )
  35. Irokez
    Irokez 17 November 2013 17: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: kaper
    It’s just ridiculous to read for US debts in the US currency. The dollar will not collapse if the holders of these debts do not demand the return of these debts. For if the dollar collapses, the holders of these debts will suffer first. A vicious circle is obtained.

    So the fact of the matter is that everyone will suffer, and the USA, as always, is not to blame for anything — it's business and nothing personal, but the faster the collapse of the global financial system, the easier it will be later.
    Everyone will work and raise their industry in the first place, in order to feed themselves and to provide for themselves with the minimum necessary goods, and then more complete international trade will begin to develop, and the main thing here is to prevent the world from being monopolized and globalized again.
    Times will be difficult and difficult without doubt, but it is necessary to get rid of the old, parasitic system. For starters, you can, as always, use gold, platinum, precious metals and all sorts of values. In principle, natural resources are also a currency (oil, gas, coal, wood, wheat, food, etc.). Nobody forbids barter (subsistence farming) and trade in national currencies. Everything can be adjusted quite quickly and it’s not so scary as they say about general collapse.
    Russia will not die from food shortages. It will be difficult for a year, but any sneakers, chips, mcdonalds and other poison in the form of singed alcohol and smoke will disappear (which is very beneficial for people's health). By the way, there may even be more pluses than pluses and plus that everyone will start to think and figure out how to live for a normal existence and will not dream of a blue-pink society, but will start to do something really working for the good of their country, and not the country of the parasite.
    Why something, but even the same China, Belarus, Ukraine, and even some European countries will flood us with a provocative, albeit not of the best quality, for the same energy sources and we will not die and we will continue to feed.
    - The devil is not so terrible as they are frightened.
    - The eyes are afraid, but the hands are doing.
    - Who does not take risks, he does not win.
    You just need to believe and not give up in the face of difficulties and everything will turn out and life will go on even better than it was.
    1. kaper
      kaper 17 November 2013 18: 28 New
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      There is a lot of controversy, but the main question is, who needs to remodel what the devants bring to them today. Everyone is full, shod, dressed and will not make any sudden movements. All these changes can come only after some cataclysms, such as the third world one. But again , who needs it, and we don’t need these cataclysms. So it’s not life but continuous changes. So everyone will openly scold American imperialism, but they won’t try to change anything. Yes and whether it is necessary?
  36. Keeper
    Keeper 17 November 2013 18: 44 New
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    Friends, that's okay. Russia went "the other way" !!! We will be “friends” with those who are not in “favor” ... Gradually, such a crowd will be created that Westerners, with their primitive pinpoint strikes, will become sad ... It's like in chess - if you have time for a couple of moves, you made a game. And if the chess board is also yours, then Po'f ... 'xer who is in charge in the yard - you go home and the game is over in any case)))
  37. Keeper
    Keeper 17 November 2013 18: 48 New
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    Quote: kaper
    There is a lot of controversy, but the main question is, who needs to remodel what the devants bring to them today. Everyone is full, shod, dressed and will not make any sudden movements. All these changes can come only after some cataclysms, such as the third world one. But again , who needs it, and we don’t need these cataclysms. So it’s not life but continuous changes. So everyone will openly scold American imperialism, but they won’t try to change anything. Yes and whether it is necessary?

    And the paradox is that if it "begins", then no pretexts and meaning will be needed at all for this! For this will only be created to rid the planet of two or three billion homo'sapiens. And on this occasion, the best will be to look for that cave, in which it is deep and cozy, and most importantly, the radioactive rain does not drip ...
  38. Irokez
    Irokez 17 November 2013 22: 50 New
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    Quote: kaper
    There is a lot of controversy, but the main question is, who needs to redo what today brings them the devants.

    And you think to whom right now dividends go?
    Correctly strong and rich of this world, and there are still less rich ones who are very rich on their heels and if nothing is changed, then the richest will eat the rich.
    Conclusion. Something needs to be done so that it is not eaten, which means it is necessary to raise our country as opposed to the seizure of predators because everyone wants to live.
    Another argument. Among the richest, there is also no consensus on the future and competition. It turns out to fight even at the very top.
    Those who have economic and financial levers for managing processes on the planet control them, but the vast majority either sleeps or is fooled by advertisements of a well-fed and happy life and have little understanding of which of them will do in the future (free slaves), and who understands what is happening , they are trying to prevent and make up opposition to the powers that be, and these are not only people, but also the leaders of many countries who are trying to cooperate and confront. BRICS, for example, the customs union, in South America they want to do something of their own in Asia.
    Right now, the most important thing is to get rid of currency greens and transfer money anywhere. But unfortunately they won’t be able to get rid of them quickly, because our stock is stored in dollars, too, and it’s more likely not to return it.
    It will not work to exchange dollars for gold because it is no longer tied to gold. The only thing is to buy anything for dollars while they are worth something, so that later they don't say "I didn't have time" or "I didn't know." Though in rubles it will be more useful both for you and for the country. Everyone will remember the 90s with our default.
    In any case, the dollar will burst or instantly depreciate, which is exactly the same thing. There is nothing eternal, everything once collapses and disappears - the law of nature.
    The most painful question - When? And this is already the richest people of this world know, led by the Fed, and keep your nose upwind or make sure you get rid of it.
    We will look when the question of raising the US public debt again becomes. And everyone saw what happened when discussing the latter - nothing good. And now everyone knows and understands this and imagines what could be.