Bright silicone future

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Bright silicone futureRussian electronics - once one of the advanced branches of the domestic economy - is experiencing hard times. Meanwhile, according to experts, in this area Russia could play a significant role not only in the domestic, but also in the external market.

Where we do not exist

Of course, when we talk about holding high positions in the world market, we need to understand which market segment remains available for Russian producers. Russia has completely lost the opportunity to seriously be represented in the market of household appliances or modern gadgets: this segment has been firmly conquered by manufacturers from Southeast Asia.

Prospects for domestic manufacturers nevertheless remain in the segment of special radio electronics, which is used in the production of modern weapons systems, in the nuclear industry, in the space and other high-tech industries. As in the segment of professional electronics, which includes operator equipment for the telecommunications industry, electronics for industry, automotive electronics, electronics for power and medical equipment, for security systems, as well as high-performance information processing systems.

“Even now, in difficult conditions, the production of electronic components in Russia is constantly growing,” emphasizes the CEO of the Roselectronika holding Andrey Zverev. “At the same time, we are present in the global component market.” But here's what is strange: under such conditions, the domestic military-industrial complex is provided with domestic components only on 60%. In the civilian sector, the domestic producer is only present at only a few percent. The level of development of professional electronics in the future will largely determine the competitiveness of Russian industry, the efficiency of the social sphere and national security. ”

Market condition

In fact, the production of electronic components of all kinds is now one of the most profitable sectors of the economy. The global electronic component base market is estimated at 483 billion dollars. In 2011, the global electronics market volume exceeded 2 trillion dollars. True, the share of special electronics makes up only 7% of global industrial production. But it is in this segment that, oddly enough, we still have unique technologies.

In particular, we are talking about powerful vacuum and solid-state microwave electronics, without which modern weapons and space technology are unthinkable. Only six countries, including Russia, produce microwave electronics. That is, we are talking about a very narrow circle of producers - even narrower than the club of nuclear powers.

“Of course, at the beginning of 90-s, Russian electronics seriously lost their positions and groundwork precisely because defense orders were reduced,” reminds the expert. “But nevertheless, we have serious scientific and technical achievements and achievements that allowed us to maintain our position in such knowledge-intensive areas. These, for example, in addition to microwave electronics, include algorithmization of information processing and signals for military electronics, radiation-resistant ECB, new energy-saving lighting technology based on semiconductor LEDs, instruments for thermal imaging. "

We have to admit that the domestic market of electronic components for military and aerospace equipment has been falling for a rather long time. Over the 15 years (since 1991), the total number of enterprises and organizations in the industry has been halved. Depreciation of technological equipment reached 53%. Any significant public investment in the industry was virtually non-existent. The recession was overcome only by 2006.

Already in 2007, due to the resumption of the defense order, the growth of the domestic market amounted to 10% and immediately approached 230 million dollars. At the same time, the volume of production of defense enterprises increased immediately by 6%. And it continues to grow annually by almost 15%. However, the share of innovative products in the total market is growing rather slowly. Now it is only about 7%. Which probably explains the more than modest possibilities of Russian enterprises in the supply of high-tech domestic products to the world market. While the share of the Russian market does not exceed 0,3%.

“Modernization of the domestic electronic industry is undoubtedly one of the priorities of industrial development in Russia,” said Vladimir Gutenev, first deputy chairman of the Russian State Duma Committee on Industry, first vice president of the Russian Engineering Union. - Unfortunately, we are lagging behind in the production of modern chips and microcircuits, without which modern electronics are inconceivable. It is still valid GOST 70-ies! Naturally, there is no reason to talk about their compliance with modern technological requirements! So the modernization of the industry is the most important task, the solution of which depends on the development of high-tech industries and the creation of new types of weapons. ”

What could be the mechanisms for bringing the industry to a competitive position in the global market?

If you want peace, prepare the electronics

The main engine for the development of the industry can and should be the state defense order. Fortunately, there is awareness of this need. The domestic defense industry "breathed" with the adoption of the state armament program for 2011 – 2020, the amount of funding of which is 20 trillion rubles. Obviously, modern weapons are above all high performance. And here as nowhere else it is important that these characteristics are provided with components of domestic production.

“Russia has its own national interests, primarily in the areas of security and technological independence. It’s impossible to defend them without having our own electronics industry, ”said Mikhail Remezov, Chairman of the Presidium of the Expert Council of the Military Industrial Commission. - How can we be sure of imported microchips? What can protect us from unauthorized interference with the equipment topology, if its “stuffing” is completely foreign? Therefore, of course, the latest decisions on the development of the domestic defense industry should be considered only from the positive side. Moreover, since 1 January 2014, as we remember, the law on the federal contract system enters into force, according to which the share of small business in public procurement will be increased to 15%. The chances for effective import substitution in electronics today are largely connected with small and medium-sized businesses. ”

It should be noted that at least four more federal target programs have been developed and are already in operation taking into account the needs of Russian electronics: “Development of the defense industry”, “Development of electronic component base and radio electronics for 2008 – 2025 years”, “Development, restoration and organization of production of low-tonnage chemistry materials "And" Support, development and use of the GLONASS system for 2012 – 2020 years ”.

However, it is impossible to close on internal tasks alone. Modern electronic technologies can develop only under the condition of constant interpenetration of the achievements of various manufacturers. “Innovative development is possible only with an open enterprise model,” says Andrei Zverev. - More and more world-renowned organizations understand and accept this. And they are increasingly resorting to the creation of such open production models in which the organization interacts more closely with external counterparties and involves them in their business processes. The principle of open innovation should be a priority for the industry. The policy for managing R & D results should become more flexible. This is vital in order to have chances to enter the world market and consolidate their positions there. ”

New Electronics

Of course, any measures may be unsuccessful if young, promising scientists, engineers and workers do not come into electronics. In general, the personnel problem is one of the main ones for the industry.

“Russian electronics really lacks qualified specialists,” confirms Vladimir Gutenev. - In my opinion, this is one of the main constraints of the industry. Unfortunately, the reality is that through 3 – 4 of the year, if skilled personnel trained in modern technologies do not start to receive electronics, an irreversible decline in the industry will begin. We have everything to prevent this from happening. In Russia, there is still a school for training high-class specialists on the basis of a unique polytechnic education system. And it still brings results. ”
Such specialties as the developers of super-large-scale integrated circuits (VLSI) and systems on a chip (SNK) are called the most popular today. The demand for their services is extremely high. However, the proposal from Russian universities for trained personnel does not satisfy the demand of production workers.

Some foreign experts who have studied the Russian electronics market are confident that the domestic industry cannot survive without creating special training centers for enterprises. If this is not done, then the custom design process can also be severely slowed down, and after a couple of years it can collapse.

Finally, another serious obstacle to the development of domestic electronics is considered an acute shortage of young ambitious entrepreneurs and middle and top managers for the innovative development of the industry. Their absence makes it impossible to implement even the most promising industry projects demanded by the market for products and services. This task can be solved only with the most active participation of the state through a system of supporting programs and incentive grants.
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  1. makarov
    +2
    15 November 2013 07: 54
    Always and in everything, the latest technologies have been "tested" primarily in the military-industrial complex. And this is probably correct, since it carries the foundations of state security. Its development depends on the financing of the industry.
    1. +6
      15 November 2013 08: 41
      Quote: makarov
      Always and in everything, the latest technologies were "tested" primarily in the military-industrial complex

      It’s not quite the case in the auto industry, it’s being driven at auto racing, but in general, the American military-industrial complex has given us the Internet and GPS, the component base is the core of the electronics, and you need to start from this (catch up here late, you need to create a new one), and not from vacuum cleaners and TVs from Korean and Chinese parts. There is no way to do without the state program (damn it again, the cut of the dough will begin).
      1. +11
        15 November 2013 18: 13
        You know, looking at Skolkovo and Rusnano no longer believe in any state programs.
        1. timer
          +1
          17 November 2013 15: 37
          Looking at these projects for the iPhone dimon, I have no words other than swearing! Of course, most people develop such a lack of faith in the state programs, and it is understandable. After all, the root of the problems is in outrageous theft, indiscriminate behavior and unprofessionalism! And who is to blame is the current system of power, headed by our fucking "leader putin! When we figure out the" root ", then the" locomotive "will run faster (as in the song).
        2. AVV
          0
          17 November 2013 15: 40
          While the leaders of these structures will work only for themselves, like Chubais, nothing good can be expected, again the DAM idea gives a leak, and everyone expected a silicone valley, but they got a valley of budget saws !!!
    2. +9
      15 November 2013 10: 49
      When I have on my table a powerful computer that is not inferior to foreign analogues, where each component will be made in Russia (video card, motherboard, mouse, keyboard, RAM, processor, etc., etc.) And there will be pride inside when reading "Made in Russia ".
      1. Shur
        +1
        16 November 2013 18: 42
        I hope by then nothing will lie on my desk. Everything should become virtual. Microscopic devices to the degree of integration in clothing and more. And they should start doing this here, and not catch up or overtake.
    3. timer
      +2
      17 November 2013 15: 29
      Firstly, the article is interesting and "without water" - it clearly shows the most acute problem not only in the electronics industry, but also in the entire industry of Russia. Backlog made during the existence of the USSR, without literate, young, and not so, with a twinkle in their eyes specialists, are not feasible. But the root of the problem is not even that, but in INDUSTRIAL theft, indulgence and unprofessionalism! When we understand the "root", then the "locomotive" will run faster (as in the song).
      Secondly, I proposed and propose to create scientific and industrial conglomerates in the high-tech branches of the military-industrial complex, where the core is an industrial site (plant) and around a handful of specialized FUZs + scientific institutes + vocational schools (technical schools) .This we kill several birds with one stone - we attract young engineers , scientific practitioners and theorists, specialists in working specialties, we give the opportunity to invent and implement at experimental sites various specialized know-how, both in the military sphere and in the civil one. As a result, we will be able to accumulate significant financial and intellectual forces in one fist, and bring this comglomerate into the world profile leaders. Here is a post-industrial economy, new jobs, world leadership, and not a fucking raw banana, like now, which our fucking built for us " leader "putin!
  2. +8
    15 November 2013 07: 59
    the offer from Russian universities for trained personnel does not satisfy the demand - wait, education reform has just begun! Soon simple electricians will be hard to find!
    deficit of young ambitious entrepreneurs - and here it is scary to get involved! "- Russian electronics ?! - Yes_nu_na!" wassat
    1. +5
      15 November 2013 08: 36
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      Soon simple electricians will be hard to find!

      You see a little divorced from life, it is now difficult to find ordinary electricians. Everyone wants to be managers and lawyers (that’s handicap), so be interested in what queues at the service station to the auto electrician. In Ekibas, we can say that they are not there, they often go to Pavlodar and are recorded in the queue there.
    2. +5
      15 November 2013 11: 30
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      Soon simple electricians will be hard to find!

      You won’t find young literate electricians now, I have two graduates - engineers, they did the wiring in the cottage, so they managed to make three on-phase meetings there, but in the diploma they were excellent ...
  3. +1
    15 November 2013 08: 36
    Nevertheless, we have serious scientific and technical achievements and achievements that have allowed us to maintain our position in such high-tech fields. For example, in addition to microwave electronics, they include information and signal processing algorithms for military electronics, radiation-resistant electronic components, new energy-saving lighting technologies based on semiconductor LEDs, and devices for thermal imaging technology ”
    Does Russia have a radiation-resistant computer, or are thermal imagers not of French design?
    And these ultra-large integrated circuits are only because they are so large, because the technical process allowed for Russia is 90nm, the first pentium seems to be that way, there is no instrument of its own, and so they are dependent on old technologies
  4. +13
    15 November 2013 09: 20
    In Russia, there is still a school for training highly qualified specialists based on a unique polytechnic education system. And she still brings results

    Yes, you are afraid of God, the author, if you are not afraid of people, my specialty, namely the technology of production of electronic equipment, has long been absent from my alma mater. Personnel for the radio electronic industry have not been "forged" for a long time, we have no groundwork and will not. The first blow of the "perestochniki" was struck precisely at the radio-electronic industry. "Nanotechnology" completely ruined it. And the "reform" of education will ensure the guaranteed absence of this industry.
  5. Ivan Pomidorov
    +6
    15 November 2013 10: 11
    Finally, another serious obstacle to the development of domestic electronics is considered an acute shortage of young ambitious entrepreneurs and middle and top managers for the innovative development of the industry. Their absence makes it impossible to implement even the most promising industry projects demanded by the market for products and services. This task can be solved only with the most active participation of the state through a system of supporting programs and incentive grants.


    The presence of such entrepreneurs primarily depends on the outlook and way of thinking of young entrepreneurs.
    There is a shortage of highly educated entrepreneurs with their own technical and commercial ideas in the field of production technologies.
    Just because they do not appear - they are grown and brought up in research institutes, design bureaus and in modern factories.
    They gain experience, generate their ideas, come up with technologies, decide on independent development and implementation of their ideas.
    Such entrepreneurs cannot be obtained from trade, restaurant business and virtual startups - the level is not the same .. request
    1. Shur
      0
      16 November 2013 19: 06
      Yeah, they will do it. First, remove any red mold and other g .. and adhere to at least some rules. Shaved nappies from the 90s who came to power in Russia do not need this.
  6. +2
    15 November 2013 11: 00
    Is this when Sovetsuaya / Russian electronics was at the forefront? There were interesting solutions, but the implementation was ALWAYS behind.
    1. +1
      15 November 2013 11: 33
      Quote: Login_Off
      It is when Soviet/ Was Russian electronics at the forefront?

      In the military-industrial complex and in the army, but bulky, but heavy, but nonetheless ...
    2. +3
      15 November 2013 12: 01
      Is this when Soviet / Russian electronics were at the forefront? There were interesting solutions, but the implementation was ALWAYS behind.


      In Soviet times, we had among our households excellent tube televisions, winners of many international exhibitions, DV-SV-KV receivers.
      Among the special equipment: radio relay stations (many, if not sadly, are still working), excellent HF radio stations (moreover, they were mass-produced for collective and state farms).
      For the military-industrial complex and space, well, here without comment.
      By the way, a great breakthrough was made in the field of cybernetics, but much has already been written about it.
      The trouble is that the lags were outlined in the late 70s and early 80s, there were attempts to correct this situation, but "perestroika" finally ruined everything in the bud. This is quite understandable, no one was going to hand over a profitable business to an allegedly "totalitarian" state.
      1. 0
        15 November 2013 13: 19
        That's just all of the above, this year is 80-90.
        Then electronics for household needs began to be produced. Television cameras are half semiconductor, half tube (PHOTON, for example), VHF receivers were small-sized ("Electronics" I don't remember what numbers are there), toys "Just wait a minute" with eggs. Computers ZX-Spectrum (both of the same name and all sorts of "BINOM" s, here the processors were imported). It was all in 80-90.
        But now remember how hard it all connected? And even then, imported equipment was already on sale in the commission. Remember the two-cassette players that appeared.
        This is all from 80 to 90 years.
        That concerns up to 80 years, Nuka, remember at least one receiver is not a tube? All that was at best from the Baltic states. There were Muromets-type receivers of tube HF, VHF ranges, even with playing records. But this is all tube, it is not electronics.
        I repeat once again, there were piece decisions, but all this did not reach industrial production. Everything was bulky and not intended for mass production.
        1. +5
          15 November 2013 14: 09
          Dear, the fact is that up to 80 and the capitalists had only piece "non-lamp" samples. We and they switched to transistor technology almost at the same time, and here the discrepancies began. We barely mastered the VHF range, and did not get to phase modulation. Our semiconductor tube TVs turned out much worse than just tube TVs. But I repeat once again, tube electronics was the most advanced in the USSR, and that is how your first question was posed. But already with the transition to transistors, we gave a blunder, here I agree with you. But again there was a period when the Malaysians bought our microcircuits, re-marked them and resold them. In the area of ​​so-called formal logic, we have surpassed the world for quite some time.
  7. Drosselmeyer
    +6
    15 November 2013 13: 01
    Don’t worry, now everything will work out:
    "Former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, who is a witness in the Oboronservis criminal case, got a job at the state corporation Rostekhnologii," Kommersant reports.
    According to the newspaper, he was appointed Director General of the Federal Research Testing Center for Mechanical Engineering. "
  8. +1
    15 November 2013 13: 20
    The main element base, here we are irrevocably behind. Foreign components have always been used, including in the military-industrial complex, and in missile control systems as well. Sell ​​modern equipment, they will not sell us. Only one way out: copy, try to get modern production equipment in a roundabout way, develop industrial espionage. But there, too, are not fools and equipment purchased through 3 persons may simply not work in the territory of the Russian Federation.
  9. +1
    15 November 2013 13: 32
    At the expense of a small part of the components, we can say that it is the most advanced and the best, of course, you can. But the point is that these components are manufactured for certain equipment with the prefix "special", and most likely will not work for anything else. "partners" have their own equipment similar in purpose and their components are also not suitable for anything else. So we can be glad that we have at least such production left, but in my opinion it would be better if these electronic components were constantly supplemented with new breakthrough technologies rather than rejoice in running in place.
  10. +1
    15 November 2013 13: 34
    Our strength is in algorithms, perhaps you can still find system engineers and develop your own highly specialized schemes, but does it make sense to build the production itself (a plant of about 30-50 billion rubles), it will not be recouped by a narrow market, I think you can start by placing orders in different offices on their own schemes or "rent" capacity. It is difficult to raise the entire element base, because here, as either a specialized task - we can, or a universal one (Intel, AMD, Ti, etc.) - are far behind.
    1. Shur
      0
      16 November 2013 19: 19
      Katay is used to kolipasti foreign technologists. They will sell everything.
  11. sxn278619
    +4
    15 November 2013 13: 47
    Quote: T-100
    When I have on my table a powerful computer that is not inferior to foreign analogues, where each component will be made in Russia (video card, motherboard, mouse, keyboard, RAM, processor, etc., etc.) And there will be pride inside when reading "Made in Russia ".

    In the framework of capitalism, now never. Point of no return passed.
    1. Shur
      0
      16 November 2013 19: 23
      Capitalism is the same extreme as communism.
  12. sxn278619
    +1
    15 November 2013 13: 47
    Quote: T-100
    When I have on my table a powerful computer that is not inferior to foreign analogues, where each component will be made in Russia (video card, motherboard, mouse, keyboard, RAM, processor, etc., etc.) And there will be pride inside when reading "Made in Russia ".

    In the framework of capitalism, now never. Point of no return passed.
  13. +2
    15 November 2013 15: 56
    Author:
    In particular, we are talking about powerful vacuum and solid-state microwave electronics, without which modern weapons and space technology are unthinkable. Only six countries, including Russia, produce microwave electronics. That is, we are talking about a very narrow circle of producers - even narrower than the club of nuclear powers.


    Firstly, the number of countries producing microwave components is much larger than six. Moreover, the list of such components is quite large and is used both in the civilian industry and in the military. And these components are produced all over the world today by private companies without any public investment.
    Secondly: if some microwave components are produced in Russia, they are practically absent on the world market. This is especially true for solid-state microwave electronics.
  14. +3
    15 November 2013 20: 22
    Here come young highly educated geniuses and begin to work miracles .. Do you want something? ..Want it ..?

    It may be a balm on the ears of High Executive Workers, but as an electronics developer in our military-industrial complex in the past I would like to say that it’s time to tie this debility.
    Electronics is a very mature industry. A young specialist, in principle, cannot absorb all the depths of theory and all the heights of refinement of an existing engineering idea.
    But, really, he can achieve very chic results .. (if he works under the guidance of those who have reached both depths, .. and heights ..)
    Needless to say, there is nothing not to dare - the tendency is towards simplification - ".. take such and such Application Note on this microcircuit and do this .. details in the Data Sheet .."
    Recent generations of young specialists practically do not know the theory of analog electronics - they work according to descriptions and recommendations for imported microcircuits .. Therefore, they have a weak synthesis of technical solutions ..
    And if you do something your own, it is necessary to synthesize ideas and solutions ..
  15. +1
    15 November 2013 20: 29
    Electronics is not an area in which you can catch up and overtake. If there is a serious lag, then you need to immediately purchase new technologies. And here, as usual, they try to invent a bicycle on which the whole world has been riding for a long time, instead of investing in the next generation of promising technologies. Of course, investing in new technologies is a risk, here the official is not like a rollback, scientists may not even present the result to him for reporting. In science, a negative result, also a result. Therefore, it’s much more profitable for officials to pocket the state budget for ready-made technical solutions, giving them out as their Russian know-how. Corruption and protectionism are the main reason for the systemic lag in electronics and many other technologies.
    1. +2
      15 November 2013 23: 45
      There is a suspicion that they will not sell us new technologies .... at best three to five years ago .... but most likely they will offer our "advanced managers" to avoid risks, etc. develop everything over the hill.
      1. 0
        16 November 2013 00: 43
        There is a suspicion that they will not sell us new technologies .... at best three to five years ago .... but most likely they will offer our "advanced managers" to avoid risks, etc. develop everything over the hill.


        It is not clear what technologies can be bought here. It's not about the production of microcircuits, but about their development. The same Texas Instruments or Analog devices each month presents a new generation of its products. What exactly do you need to buy in order to compete with them?
        1. 0
          16 November 2013 15: 50
          [quote = Tourist's Breakfast] [quote] The same Texas Instruments or Analog devices each month presents a new generation of its products. What exactly do you need to buy in order to compete with them? [/ Quote]
          But this is not necessary, the new companies, as well as others like them, have not represented new generations of microcircuits for a long time. A microprocessor with Harvard architecture has been triumphantly marching around the world for about 40 years. All other microcircuits are customized to customer requirements, the age of functional electronics has come. Radio elements improve their performance by improving materials. The production of radio components is good because it is flexible. It is enough to put a small candle factory, carry out marketing work with potential customers, collect orders and give it out to the mountain: you m / s for lithium battery chargers, you for Hi-Fi amplifiers, etc. The main thing is to pretend that it is given with such difficulty and tension of all non-human forces.
          1. 0
            16 November 2013 16: 41
            I must admit - they develop microchips in bulk - you can just look at the current news. Generations of processors themselves live much longer
            It is felt that their specialists are working intensively and are working on the result.
            Until recently, I worked at the NIIFI (Penza). There is a wild paradox - money is unmeasured (the budget is somewhere around 1.5-2.5 billion rubles) and return is one of the most popular methods - sticking my tags on other people's designs ..
            Now I work for a private trader - we have only 8-9 developers of electronics (plus mathematicians, a dozen and a half dozen programmers), but we give much more final products and with much better quality.
  16. 0
    16 November 2013 00: 25
    We are hopelessly behind, we have to start all over again. At one time we made more or less modern elements. At first they were MP41,39,26 transistors and similar. Maybe they were behind the Western ones in terms of technology, but they worked well in the circuits, I still do I use them sometimes. After the silicon KT315 and TTL logic (K555-155) appeared, it was perhaps the best and most reliable element base. CMOS technology circuits and field effect transistors are afraid of interference, require higher technologies in the manufacture of printed circuit boards and more attentive to them. They are less reliable than TTL-logic, but more economical. Of the Soviet TVs, the best were made on a class 3 chassis, there was nothing to break into them, only the lamps changed. (The stringer was a weak link). In h \ they started doing horizontal scanning on a transistor instead of a lamp, and ruined the whole thing. Radiators did not provide heat dissipation, and the transistors themselves did not tolerate operating voltage. Any pioneer from a circle of young radio lovers Oil would have done better. Transformerless power supplies were generally worthless and therefore, when foreign-made TVs appeared on sale, the Soviets completely stopped buying (picture tubes were also useless). An attempt to make a car switch also failed. Instead of making a high-voltage transistor with a grounded emitter, they began to use a generator transistor from the TV (KT2) mounted on mica. So we got to the current state of affairs. The electronics industry turned away from people, and people turned away from it. Now, each on its own.
  17. +1
    16 November 2013 00: 58
    In my opinion, the author has some strange ideas about electronics - the largest IT campaigns such as IBM, Intel ... are engaged in the development of technological processes. And the author talks about the hope for small business

    Within the framework of capitalism, Russia can create its own electronics / electronics production in the near future only in Vietnam, because only there the cost of labor is lower than in China. And it seems that the Russian authorities understand this, they are integrating Vietnam into the Customs Union with great speed
  18. SKVS
    +1
    16 November 2013 05: 51
    Serdyukov put to lead the industry. Already nothing is surprising.
  19. 0
    17 November 2013 16: 12
    1. Provide a decent life for young professionals. Not 20 tyr per month, but an apartment and a good sn.
    2. Stop secreting everything and everything. In many ways, the general secret has ruined all the achievements of our electronic industry. It is clear that some technologies should remain closed, but there should be at least 70% of the total number of technologies available to the civilian sector.
    3. To radically renew the composition of superiors in institutions, including the military. Many were put there for feeding in connection with the length of service, and not with real achievements in the industry.
  20. a
    a
    0
    17 November 2013 19: 05
    the author, stating that domestic electronics was once an advanced industry, is either misleading or openly lying. our electronics has never been advanced. nor as an industry. nor how at all. always been backward. even in Soviet times, we were behind the developed countries a step or two behind. and already the collapse of the USSR finally threw our electronics far, far away.
    1. 0
      18 November 2013 09: 38
      To you here: http://nnm.me/blogs/kissaveli/sovetskie-kompyutery-predannye-i-zabytye/
  21. sird64
    0
    17 November 2013 22: 41
    Quote: timer
    Firstly, the article is interesting and "without water" - it clearly shows the most acute problem not only in the electronics industry, but also in the entire industry of Russia. Backlog made during the existence of the USSR, without literate, young, and not so, with a twinkle in their eyes specialists, are not feasible. But the root of the problem is not even that, but in INDUSTRIAL theft, indulgence and unprofessionalism! When we understand the "root", then the "locomotive" will run faster (as in the song).
    Secondly, I proposed and propose to create scientific and industrial conglomerates in the high-tech branches of the military-industrial complex, where the core is an industrial site (plant) and around a handful of specialized FUZs + scientific institutes + vocational schools (technical schools) .This we kill several birds with one stone - we attract young engineers , scientific practitioners and theorists, specialists in working specialties, we give the opportunity to invent and implement at experimental sites various specialized know-how, both in the military sphere and in the civil one. As a result, we will be able to accumulate significant financial and intellectual forces in one fist, and bring this comglomerate into the world profile leaders. Here is a post-industrial economy, new jobs, world leadership, and not a fucking raw banana, like now, which our fucking built for us " leader "putin!

    True, it is necessary to first grow personnel, but to grow, you need to create the material and technical base
  22. 0
    7 December 2013 21: 55
    And in the USSR they made game consoles-clones of foreign countries. And now we do not have XBOX, PS, NINTENDO clones.