By 2017, NASA plans to abandon flights on Russian Soyuz

NASA plans to abandon the services of Roskosmos for the delivery of astronauts to the ISS. The function of the Soyuz will be performed by a new American manned ship, the first flight of which will take place in 2017. Until that time, international crews will continue to ascend into the Soyuz orbit. Experts estimate that one place on the Russian ship costs the US 65 million dollars.

The director of the US space agency, Charles Bolden, has announced the acceptance of applications from commercial firms that are ready to start building a manned spacecraft. Participation in the program has already been confirmed by companies such as SpaceX and Orbital Sciences. For the development of new NASA spacecraft for the 2014 fiscal year, 2,7 is planning to spend a billion dollars. The project, based on a public-private partnership, will be half funded from the state budget.

In 2012-2013, SpaceX twice launched the world's only private, reusable Dragon cargo ship to the ISS. The launch into orbit was carried out with the aid of the Falcon-9 rocket, reminds ITAR-TASS. The contract with NASA assumes that Dragon will make another 10 cargo flights to the ISS.
Orbital Sciences, in turn, launched a Cygnus truck to the ISS, lifted into orbit with the help of Antares carrier. In the next three years, Sugnus will make eight more flights to the International Station.

Charles Bolden said that now that the US cargo ship is secured, a new phase must begin, involving the transportation of people. SpaceX and Orbital Sciences have already begun to develop manned versions of their transport workers - they will be used to deliver astronauts to the ISS and, possibly, for space travel.

The corporations Lockheed Martin and Boeing are working on the creation of a new Orion spacecraft that will be used for flights to deep space. In particular, it can help expeditions to Mars and to asteroids.

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[Airman]

While there were none, we flew to the Unions, it is cheaper to pay with candy wrappers. And during this time, developments were going on for new ships. I think that ours has got its own new developments during this time.

[Tersky]

Quote: Povshnik

While there were none, we flew to the Unions

So they, the path indirectly, but continue to fly on them. The Orbital Sciences carrier rocket has two stages, 40 meters in length, and is designed to launch Signus spacecraft. The first stage of the launch vehicle uses upgraded the engines of the H-1 rocket, which sent Soviet spacecraft to the moon.

[ShturmKGB]

Roscosmos has no ambitious programs, they are trying too hard ... we need a breakthrough, we need new ideas, we need a new Korolev!

[leon-iv]

We google the xenon-thrust nuclear engine. We study turnip scales.

[Yuri Y.]

Quote: Povshnik

While there were none, we flew to the Unions

That's right, they did not say that they would always fly to the Unions. They had a miscalculation which they decide in the working order. And in our (Soviet) Union, the right direction was taken . Now in Russia in the same working order
need to develop further. Well, something is being done, we don’t know everything. For example

Quote: leon-iv

We google the xenon-thrust nuclear engine. We study turnip scales.

[ansons]

Many thanks. I read, looked no words

[saber]

We need a new Beria!

[kafa]

go bro save the empire find the girl close up the bezier ... we do not traverse me and laurence ....

[alone]

Quote: Saber

We need a new Beria!

But does Beria need all this? he would rather ask him to be shot again when he sees what they once turned into a huge country.

[hrych]

Rocket building reached its limit during the life of Korolev and Glushko, those subsequent failures with N-1 missiles, once again talk about this when the size and weight limits of this type of transport were outlined. It’s not quite so old, even under the USSR, like the Americans checked the deadlock shuttle path, they did a super rocket to understand that it was impossible to work with it (Energy), they again came to the conclusion that there was no alternative to the Union and Proton. Unlike the staff, who until the end clung to the shuttles, until they began to fall apart. Now there is a new overclocking unit on Proton - Breeze, plus the transition to digital control of proven hard workers, well, the launch of which, as expected, was given through the loss of ships. This is not a problem of Roscosmos, but the problem of reaching the limit. In aviation, or rather, in the speed of such a limit, devices such as the BlackBird have reached, when the glider does not withstand and the pilot's lamp begins to melt. In civil aviation, such a limit is Concord and Tu-144, they were also made 50 years ago, and they also had to be abandoned. A breakthrough into rocket science is not possible; we need apparatuses based on other physical principles.

[Siberian German]

and I already wrote - they raped us, they paid us a penny for delivery, and the money released from the shuttle program was sent to create new ships - it does not seem to you that we were simply taken

[svp67]

The Soyuz function will be performed by a new American manned spacecraft, the maiden flight of which will take place in 2017.

Expected, but most importantly, what should we do now? Give up everything and calm down or roll up your sleeves to work and work on creating your new rockets and spaceships to replace the Soyuz

[leon-iv]

So work for a long time.

[Airman]

Quote: leon-iv

So work for a long time.

They have been working for a long time, but something new developments have not been seen for a long time.

[left-wing]

Well, let's see what they have there by the 17th year. Maybe they will run again with their tail in Roskosmos

[ZU-23]

I also don’t believe in American space technologies so much, if they hadn’t spoiled our life, the Russian flag would have already stood on Mars, and now Roscosmos is not standing still, money is being invested controlled so we are waiting for new successes.

[Nayhas]

Quote: ZU-23

Also, I don’t believe in American space technology so much,

Yes, please do not believe. It makes them neither cold nor hot.

[Papakiko]

Quote: Nayhas

Yes, please do not believe. It makes them neither cold nor hot.

Do you sincerely believe in this cartoon?
Sound like Proton taking off.
Flames are like from a lit cigarette.
In childhood, apparently they did not deal with rackets and pyrotechnics, so blindly believe in everything shown. Including flights to the moon. Over the past 41 years, more than once, no one flew to the moon, and the racquets with drawings evaporated. Tell me what is the reason?
Oh yes, also about PRIVATE space companies.
For parallels Private armies (G4S, Formerly the company was called Blackwater, then Xe Services. Now Academi, etc.)

[ed65b]

and not the fact that they will fly on a private trader, life is above all. 2 starts is nothing. and in the event of a catastrophe with the crew on board the company will come before the wreckage reaches the ground. And yet, ours is worth hurrying, for nothing lasts forever under the moon. Rogozin, pop the Roskosmos.

[Daniil]

All the best!!! The main thing is that we have new spaceships being developed ... PS Amer is not profitable to finance our economy.

[major071]

Giving 65 million dollars for one astronaut to us, the USA saved and was slowly developing its space carriers. It is possible that by the 2017 year something will be drawn from them, but I am not very sure of this, in view of the reduction in financing of almost all sectors. We still have time and we need to make sure that all US initiatives are empty by this time. Further, all questions only to our designers and the government.

[fzr1000]

At our last MAKS, we had a full-size model of a new ship.

[kartalovkolya]

And it pleases: there is still gunpowder in the flasks and as they used to say in the old days "the wind in your sails"!

[makarov]

Well then, you won’t be forcibly sweet. Let them learn to fly on a broomstick.

[Nayhas]

Quote: makarov

Let them learn to fly on a broomstick.

No, on "Grasshopper" ...

[kafa]

as the ancient astronauts said: - less people more oxygen

[Reserve buildbat]

Hello everybody

I do not think this news surprised anyone. But I doubt that by 2017 they will solder something capable of putting LIVE people into orbit
They seem to be unable to finish the oxygen system on the F-22 yet.

[kartalovkolya]

Well, by 2017 they will abandon the Unions, and we will probably have to abandon the ISS and launch our own something cooler as we can! And enough to supply the Yusovites with our engines, they themselves do not really know how (especially this class) !

[Aljavad]

See http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=548011&cid=10
very elegant, useful and economical.

[Bashkaus]

US Space Director Charles Bolden announces acceptance of applications from commercial firms ready to tackle the construction of a manned spacecraft
Something confuses me a little with this phrase, "they are looking for firms ready to start construction", I just took a CNC machine and forward, in 3 years I will build a rocket in my barn, even though according to ready-made drawings, to these guys just did someone explain that is a process chain?
Let's honestly say that they build a good mine as usual with a bad game and, as always, win in any situation
1st option, by 2017 there is no USA or at least just a dough for flights, and as they say there is no USA or dough, so there are no flights. In this case, the Americans will say that they warned us in advance.
The second option, in 2, it is planned to begin flight testing of the promising multi-pink apparatus of Energy, so by this time we will already begin to abandon the Unions, and the Americans are white and fluffy on a white horse - well, we said, the Russians stopped flying in the Unions, not shall we awaken them separately for ourselves to continue to build?
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[Nayhas]

Quote: Bashkaus

Something I am a little confused by this phrase, "looking for firms ready to engage in construction"

You simply do not know about the progress of trials with private companies. SpaceX has already sent cargoes to the ISS on the Dragon spacecraft on its Falcon. They are now finalizing the Falcon9 heavy rocket and will already send people.

[Nayhas]

Here is a collection of skeptics. The private space program in the USA has been operating for a long time. The greatest success was achieved by SpaceX, which developed the Falcon 1 and Falcon 9 and the spacecraft Dragon, which had already flown to the ISS with cargo. The fact that by 2017. will be able to send a person into space, there is no particular doubt.

[Aljavad]

Solidarity 100%! Space technologies in the style of von Braun have ceased to be "a secret behind 7 seals". Orbital manned flight is ONLY a matter of money. The question is: how to do it more economically and than the shuttle and than the Union.

[Cynic]

Quote: Aljavad

Space technology in von Braun style

Is it in his style?
Surnames Goddard and Obert tell you anything?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: DaniiL

All the best!!! The main thing is that we have new spaceships being developed ... PS Amer is not profitable to finance our economy.

Ohhh ... Captain evidence! Himself

But seriously - apparently, the priorities of the countries have changed, space manned programs (among the Yusovites, among others) were heavily shredded compared to the last century. It seems to me that everyone is waiting, waiting for a breakthrough from scientists on fundamentally new propulsion systems, every kilogram put into orbit is too expensive today.

[ed65b]

Quote: And Us Rat

It seems to me that everyone is waiting, waiting for a breakthrough from scientists on fundamentally new motor systems,

It’s not they who teleport a master. Times and the ISS, once on Mars.

[Cynic]

Quote: ed65b

They are not a teleportator.

Yes, about the space elevator is just a hint. A more economical real way to deliver cargo into orbit is not found.

[Aljavad]

Yeah. What next? Half solution.
Everyone says: "on different physical principles"

[Cynic]

Quote: And Us Rat

everyone is waiting, waiting for a breakthrough from scientists on fundamentally new motor systems

What a breakthrough? Everything has been known for a long time.
Here is the embodiment of life _ there so far only engines for interplanetary flights are drawn, not for takeoffs.

[Andrey Peter]

When you read such news it becomes insulting for our "Buran". How much has been invested in it and all "down the drain." In the United States, there are already private reusable ships. Maybe it's time to take advantage of our old developments, because they surpassed then the state "Shuttle"

[kafa]

still like ours on the machine flew and theirs on the handle

[Aljavad]

Now the X-47 can fly automatically. Reusable, unmanned and not giant at all. As an orbiter for Project Spiral.

[Aljavad]

So "thanks" to Ustinov! "We will not be engaged in science fiction, so do it like in the USA!"
So they did it, and even better, but why on earth is he so huge for us? It is a pity and work and ideas and resources, and most importantly - time was killed on him. He was handsome, and clever (Buran), but not needed initially. An idiotic decision smug senility.

[hrych]

The fact was that the collective farmers from the Politburo were afraid that such apparatuses could dive into the atmosphere over our territory, bomb out and leave it again, so they rushed to waste billions of money on monkey farming. True, Columbia has shown that such devices can only dive into the ocean.

[kafa]

private traders will soon be like taxi drivers and so much on the American accent. it’s not expensive to Mars quite a bistro a marching route leaves from the Zhirinovsky metro line next Washington radiala then darling you are my ripe fresh birch mars vnukovo terminal si

[Kowalsky]

Given the current budget situation, they will ditch the Soyuz, but use the new Russian ship.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Andrey Peter

When you read such news it becomes insulting for our "Buran". How much has been invested in it and everything "down the drain." In the United States, there are already private reusable ships.

You miss the point! They push space into the commercial sector - and technology is open, because:
The more players - the more competition - the lower the price - less budget expenditure.
In the commercial sector, the industry is able to self-sustain and develop without a kick acceleration from the state. They are very competent. Since only the commercial sector is capable of a qualitative leap in an area that a planned monopoly (state) is not capable of

Quote: Andrey Peter

Maybe it's time to take advantage of our old developments, because they surpassed then the state "Shuttle"

It is also time to raise the private INDEPENDENT cosmonautics sector and stimulate it for new developments and inventions that should be SIMPLER, CHEAPER and, at the same time, RELIABLE and EFFICIENT And not dream of the super-expensive technologies of yesterday, which were already written off in other places.

[studentmati]

They have everything going according to plan! ... The main thing is that Russia invests oil revenues in time on Fed receipts on time!

[voliador]

And we would remember how to run old systems. And then after a time fall. By the way, Concord was abandoned due to the high cost of tickets, and not because the glass melted.

[hrych]

In Concord and Tu-144, the limit was reached not in speed (it is not beyond), but in the size of a jet plane, where I had to have huge gluttonous engines, a huge amount of fuel. As a passenger plane, it should have a cabin with rows of seats, a certain form of a glider, which made it unstable at low speeds (during takeoff and landing, which on military giants like the Tu-160, is achieved by changing the geometry of the wing), the need to lower and raise the nose. All these nuances led to terrible accidents of our aircraft, and later Concord. If it weren’t for disaster, we would never have abandoned the Anglo-French brand, which America could not do, and the USSR had left the topic earlier. The cost of tickets is not the main thing (only rich people always flew on it), it’s another matter that after the last disaster, when an unfortunate piece of iron broke through a tank (again, due to the weight saving of tanks made of thin metal) there simply weren’t anyone who wanted to end their lives for their money .

[MolGro]

Little is known about the design of a nuclear engine or nuclear installation!
the only thing that is known is that the work is going on, but our designers are used to playing silence.
Here are the shallow facts that leaked

http://www.rosatom.ru/journalist/smiarchive/first2012/add18a804aafbb8c920dbec1a4

1a6ef6

http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/29311/

http://kerc.msk.ru/%D1%84%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE-%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B

E/%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%81-2013

http://www.fakel-russia.com/research.html

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4948/66158206ce0.jpg
etc.