Military Review

Eastern Europe on the margins of the European Union

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The scandalous situation around the elections in the northern regions of Kosovo, clearly indicated the lack of viability of the Brussels agreements of Belgrade and Pristina as a regulator of the Kosovo problem. The re-run at the three polling stations in Kosovska Mitrovica, scheduled for November 17, will not change anything in this situation. Kosovo Serbs do not know whom to listen to them, the authorities and the opposition in Serbia met in a propaganda clinch
, and the Kosovo-Albanian regime is mired in its own political squabbles. All this means the failure of the Kosovo policy of the European Union and the fallacy of the calculations that peace, stability and cooperation in Kosovo can triumph at the behest of Brussels. Commenting on statements from the EU headquarters, the Kosovo Albanian-language newspaper Koha Ditore has aggravated that they “do not inspire much hope that Brussels will undertake any obligations”


The inability of the EU to ensure the normal conduct of elections, declared in advance as fateful for the whole Kosovo settlement process, is not only a fault, but also a misfortune of the European Union, not least explained by the vagueness of the EU’s common policy in the Eastern European direction. It was not by chance that at the same time when Brussels officials agreed on the parameters of the re-voting in Kosovo, the European Commission decided to postpone the adoption of Bulgaria and Romania to the Schengen zone for an indefinite period. At first, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, in an interview with French television TF1, stated that “next year neither Bulgaria nor Romania will enter Schengen”, since in the issue of joining these countries to the Schengen agreement “there is too much resistance in the EU”. Barroso recalled that in October this year Germany, France and the Netherlands opposed this move.

And then the European Commission spokesman Frederick Vincent, instead of trying to mitigate the situation, even more added fuel to the fire, telling journalists the following: “The opinion of the European Commission remains the same: Bulgaria and Romania are ready to join Schengen. But at the moment there is such a situation in the EU, as a result of which the Schengen area cannot be expanded in the 2014 year. The EU is not ready for this. ” That is, Bucharest and Sofia have carried out the necessary preparatory work for entry into the Schengen zone, but the “troika” represented by Germany, the Netherlands and France (and also, according to some sources, Austria and Finland) appropriated the right to speak on behalf of the whole EU and disavow the previous recommendations The European Commission, which opened the Schengen doors for the Bulgarians and Romanians, subject to the fulfillment of specific technical requirements.

The situation is as scandalous as it is indicative. It is indicative, as it demonstrates the dubious ability of the European Union to change the rules of the game and revise earlier decisions in favor of the political situation. With one hand inviting the delegations of the former Soviet republics to the Eastern Partnership Summit in Vilnius 28-29 in November, Brussels with the other hand shows that neither the voice of Eastern European countries, nor their economic or legal reform activities are decisive for the EU. The “troika” decides everything, based on its own internal political considerations, calculations and phobias.

Moreover, if Bulgaria and Romania as members of the EU, at least, can count on financial and economic assistance from the same European Commission or working with it in the single IMF crisis liaison, then the Eastern Partnership countries represented by Azerbaijan, Armenia, Belarus, Georgia , Moldova and Ukraine can not count on it. The proposed signing of the Association Agreement with the European Union does not give Ukraine and Belarus any guarantees in terms of their subsequent admission to this organization, but inevitably leads to a breakdown of the entire complex of regional economic ties that has been forming for decades and even centuries ...

According to the calculations of one of the leading Russian economists, Advisor to the President of Russia Sergey Glazyev, non-participation of Ukraine in the single Eurasian economic space as a result of the one-sided course of integration into the EU will cost a huge amount - 250-300 billion dollars. “What is the political meaning of this whole campaign?” I will not reveal the secret that the main political meaning of drawing Ukraine into association with the EU is banal isolation from Russia, ”Sergei Glazyev is convinced. Deputy Prime Minister in the Russian government, Dmitry Rogozin, recalled that the signing of the Association Agreement with the EU means a very long process, under which Kiev will fulfill a lot of burdensome conditions, including for its economy, without having the prospect of full EU membership: how not to go to the bathhouse, but how to sit in the waiting room. And all my life to sit in the waiting room. "

As for Belarus, taking into account the current level of interaction between Brussels and Minsk, there it could even be a matter of a waiting room, but of the “backyard” of the European Union. But the Balkan countries, including the long-suffering Serbia, are in the queue for the European Union. What conclusions will they draw for themselves from the current collisions around Bulgaria, Romania and the Eastern Partnership?
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 14 November 2013 18: 44
    20
    not, well, how did you like it? tolerate your place near the bucket negative
    1. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka 14 November 2013 19: 05
      -23 qualifying.
      Quote: andrei332809
      not, well, how did you like it? tolerate your place near the bucket negative

      Had to be in the times of the USSR in Eastern Europe. In the same Poland more than once in the years 80-90. And there is something to compare. As my niece says, we are to Poland, like crustaceans to heaven.
      But this is not the main thing. There are still some rules, but in the East there are no rules, there is a "concept". This is what repels.
      1. smile
        smile 14 November 2013 19: 31
        20
        Vovka levka
        There is only one rule there - allowing the young Europeans to sit, as the andrei332809 quite rightly put it, at the canopy, and let them with their resources keep the countries of the Old World afloat.
        The fact that the countries of Eastern Europe were temporarily pulled out of the backyards of Europe and with our help were well developed is no secret. Now they are eating up the legacy. And since no one else is going to give them free cakes (for example, transfer technologies, develop industry, place orders with them to the detriment of their producers), but on the contrary, cut their quotas with small opportunities, the ghost of poverty seriously loomed before them. The freebie time is over. Eastern Europe has become a supplier of guest workers and a market. On this her role ends.
        In this regard, the statements of the Poles that they welcome the influx of migrant workers from Ukraine are very noteworthy. I forgot who said something like this - we are glad that plumbers come to us from Ukraine, since ours all work in Britain.
        And the plumber is perhaps one of the highest posts that can be claimed by the Poles in Europe, by the Ukrainians in Poland, the rest are more dull - all sorts of nannies and collectors of vegetables, strawberries and other tulips. :))) Well, there’s still construction left ... here we have poor Tajiks, builders too ... are you eager to become European Tajiks?

        Keep it up! Forward to the bright gastarbyte future! You will be forced to kill the remnants of industry and slaughtered with \ x. education itself will die; it is not necessary for the handyman. :)))
        Or you suppose. what will joyfully open markets for which Old Europeans tear each other's throats? What for? :)))
        1. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka 14 November 2013 19: 46
          14
          Nobody believes anything. Migrant workers equally well go to Russia.
          The problem is that the people allow them to have such power that they are forced to go abroad, in search of a piece of bread.
          The problem of Ukraine is not in Russia, and not in the European Union, but in ourselves.

          What about freebies?
          Dear, free cheese only in a mousetrap.
          1. smile
            smile 14 November 2013 21: 01
            +7
            Vovka levka
            You see, you all understand. And write quite correctly.
            But don’t you understand that people from different countries migrate not because of an excess of freedom, but because they cannot work normally at home?

            And it’s not good for the state that citizens are dispersed wherever they go, and not work for its benefit. And if this is not to the advantage of the state, then again it hits the people. Vicious circle.
            Yes, everyone has a problem in themselves, we have one too ... but it’s the leadership of the state that pushes people to this or that behavior — now the Ukrainian government wants to turn the country into an underdeveloped market for the sale of other people's goods, without industrial and scientific potential. Are Ukrainian citizens to blame for this?
            But it’s they who will have to go to black work to earn money. This they will have to pay.

            Is it possible that the equal position and actions aimed at mutual prosperity so hate the Ukrainian leadership? Is it really necessary to subordinate the country to someone?
            This is strange, honestly.
            1. Vovka levka
              Vovka levka 14 November 2013 21: 26
              +9
              I understand everything perfectly.
              That you do not contact me. From me, and I suspect nothing depends on you either. And no one at this stage will not ask our opinion.

              Quote: smile
              Vovka levka
              Now the Ukrainian government wants to turn the country into an underdeveloped market for the sale of other people's goods, without industrial and scientific potential.

              Similar processes are underway in Russia. Take a close look.
              1. smile
                smile 14 November 2013 23: 50
                +1
                Vovka levka
                Yeah ... well, I agree with you. I don’t understand one thing. as with. as almost complete unanimity is heeded, you and I managed to bark so many times ... although, of course, I was more aggressive ... but still?

                But I don’t agree with the processes - before your leadership got to be friends in Europe, the processes were the same, it is. But I got the impression that you remained in the late nineties. I think, nevertheless, our dynamics are different. You messed up leapfrog with presidential elections, Maidan and scandals in the Rada .... which is more involved in political confrontation than work .... our Duma, of course, is not better, but still ...
                1. Vovka levka
                  Vovka levka 15 November 2013 19: 18
                  +1
                  It's life.

                  PS I apologize for not answering right away. But on this democratic site, if your rating is negative, so they don't give much comment. This is such a democracy, or "approvals", or keep quiet.
                  These are the things you don’t like.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 15 November 2013 19: 21
                    +1
                    Quote: Vovka Levka
                    Here is a democracy

                    There is no democracy on our site! Democrats are guests with negative ratings.
                    1. Vovka levka
                      Vovka levka 15 November 2013 19: 54
                      +1
                      It's life.
                  2. smile
                    smile 16 November 2013 03: 45
                    -1
                    Vovka levka
                    Yes, that’s mudflow ... :)))) It happens .... Thank you for answering ...

                    But you don’t sin on the site - on Ukrainian sites, on the majority - you would be banned forever after three statements (at best) that you would consider unpatriotic ... and you can’t not know about it ... and you like such things ? If necessary, give examples. :)))
                    So, let's better blame the processes in our states together, the benefit of the rule of this site, unlike the vast majority of democracies, it allows ... :)))

                    By the way, do you know the patriotic sites of some democratic countries, where you need to pass a test for patriotism to register? tell which countries is this possible? :)))
                    1. Vovka levka
                      Vovka levka 16 November 2013 15: 47
                      0
                      I don’t know, maybe you’re right. I just don’t have time to surf the Internet. Quickly looked at the news and all. That is life.
                    2. Khrushchev
                      Khrushchev 20 January 2014 23: 58
                      0
                      Quote: smile
                      But do not sin on the site - on Ukrainian sites, on most - you would be banned forever after three statements (at best)

                      outright nonsense.
              2. dmitrich
                dmitrich 15 November 2013 05: 27
                0
                you thought.
            2. samoletil18
              samoletil18 14 November 2013 22: 17
              +2

              And it’s not good for the state that citizens are dispersed wherever they go, and not work for its benefit. And if this is not to the advantage of the state, then again it hits the people. Vicious circle.

              You can’t say that in Tajikistan what
              1. smile
                smile 14 November 2013 23: 56
                +2
                samoletil18
                I think that if Tajikistan could create the conditions for normal work for its citizens, did not kill its education, then hundreds of thousands of Tajiks working in their own country would be able to do much more good than sending their money to relatives ... and what statewide money? So that the people didn’t starve at all .... And there is a devastation, they still have not recovered after the war of yurchiks and Vovchiks.
      2. BARKAS
        BARKAS 14 November 2013 19: 41
        +6
        Quote: Vovka Levka
        we are to Poland, like crustaceans to heaven

        Do not expect this problem, even the association with the EU will not cope!
        Quote: Vovka Levka
        There are still some rules, but in the East there are no rules, there is a "concept". This is what repels.

        This yes the East repels, I would even say sick of the liberal concepts of Western tolerance!
        1. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka 14 November 2013 20: 41
          +7
          Quote: BARKAS

          This yes the East repels, I would even say sick of the liberal concepts of Western tolerance!

          In Ukraine, everything is simple.

          The powers that be do not want to go to Russia, because there they will put in place quickly. It will be keeping quiet. They will squeeze the eggs and take away the capital.

          I would like to go to Europe, the reason is simple, so they stole that the economy is an ass. But the problem is that no one in Europe will tolerate the "concept".

          So rushing around.
          1. Felix200970
            Felix200970 14 November 2013 21: 37
            +1
            Quote: Vovka Levka
            Europe will not tolerate the "concept".

            Because they have their own concepts (if at all)
            1. AVV
              AVV 15 November 2013 00: 16
              +2
              What are the concepts there? Bullshit! Europe Ukraine, do not need, look, at the Bulgarian or Romanians, everything is clear, Romania in a word, but here, people like educated, Antonov alone, what does it mean for Ukraine, Motor Sich or Dnepropetrovsk Engineering? The West has one task, to bring all these enterprises to a pen, ruin, and then deliver their high-tech products to the territory of Ukraine, buy! Not so, our grandfathers drove the Germans to Berlin so that the grandchildren would bury everything that was created by the people ???
              1. Vovka levka
                Vovka levka 15 November 2013 00: 51
                +1
                Quote: AVV
                What are the concepts there? Bullshit! Europe Ukraine, do not need, look, at the Bulgarian or Romanians, everything is clear, Romania in a word, but here, people like educated, Antonov alone, what does it mean for Ukraine, Motor Sich or Dnepropetrovsk Engineering? The West has one task, to bring all these enterprises to a pen, ruin, and then deliver their high-tech products to the territory of Ukraine, buy! Not so, our grandfathers drove the Germans to Berlin so that the grandchildren would bury everything that was created by the people ???

                In the days of the Union, there was such a case. On the German-Polish border was a party of humanitarian aid for the USSR. And the Pole asks, this is for whom. And the East German answers: this is for those who took Berlin. Here is a story.
      3. Siberian German
        Siberian German 14 November 2013 20: 55
        +2
        You are right these concepts got everyone - but one thing, but in the USSR you were an advanced outpost in front of Europe with developed industry and agriculture, and now it will become the backyard of Europe
        1. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka 14 November 2013 21: 17
          +5
          Quote: Siberian German
          You are right these concepts got everyone - but one thing, but in the USSR you were an advanced outpost in front of Europe with developed industry and agriculture, and now it will become the backyard of Europe

          Neither we nor you decide anything. In this system, we are just extras.
          No one is going to ask our opinion what you have and us. And this is, unfortunately, not a fact.
          1. AVV
            AVV 14 November 2013 23: 02
            +1
            But it’s not necessary to underestimate the role of the people, you have elections in a copper medal in the Verkhovna Rada, and you just have to think with your head, specifically, who to vote for and who to vote for. You’ve already got one leader from the Party of Regions at one time, promised a lot of things, and when he got to power, he threw people, now his skin is closer to his body! So think that you people need to have a job, and relatives are nearby or be Outskirts of gay ropes ???
      4. kmike
        kmike 14 November 2013 21: 07
        +4
        Well, if we are in Poland like (crustaceans to the sky), so where does Ukraine crawl. If Ukraine goes to the EU, then it really will be near a bucket. In general, the EU will not last long in this form. It was originally done wrong. the crowd, like a military mobilization is carried out by the lame, slanting and deaf. And the Young Europeans then are outraged that they will not be allowed to go further. It’s not necessary to pull into the EU, but to select candidates by competition. He raised the economy, people began to live better. Deserved to be in a gold list of the EU. And now I have spread a homosexual worthy.
      5. Felix200970
        Felix200970 14 November 2013 21: 34
        0
        Quote: Vovka Levka
        There are still some rules, but in the East there are no rules, there is a "concept".

        These rules are one thing. There are no rules. And all the proposals made for admission to the eurozone (association, membership, etc.) belong to the category "Classical German philosophy." (That is, love of the interlocutor's brain in a perverted form)
      6. Andrew-59
        Andrew-59 15 November 2013 02: 14
        +3
        In the 80s, the Poles in the USSR were fed. Che-that got tired of our "brothers" ..
      7. dmitrich
        dmitrich 15 November 2013 05: 19
        0
        you’re bullshit, while the Poles plowed gardens on the cows, you won’t walk around the city in uniform. Maybe Ukraine, like crustaceans to heaven, then I do not argue.
      8. Sirs
        Sirs 15 November 2013 06: 50
        0
        Sometimes concepts help to better understand people)))
    2. morpex
      morpex 14 November 2013 19: 56
      -7
      Quote: andrei332809
      ? tolerate your place near the bucket

      We have long been living on top of the head in a bucket. Yet, since the time of Gorbi. As well as you. So it’s already difficult to scare us
  2. Bober
    Bober 14 November 2013 18: 51
    +5
    A proverb will not come true. It is designed for smart. And here you can see many foreheads stronger than a rake. But the more often you step on without thinking, the greater the chance that there will already be nothing to think about.
  3. ObnaPur
    ObnaPur 14 November 2013 18: 55
    +2
    And let them fall into a homosexual union! They’ll get the shit out there. And if you want it back, they will pay a tidy sum (Crimea Peninsula). You will not try, you will not know.
    1. vlad0
      vlad0 14 November 2013 18: 59
      +3
      Or maybe immediately give them the go-ahead for integration into the EU in exchange for the Crimea?
      1. GastaClaus69
        GastaClaus69 14 November 2013 19: 13
        +1
        Vladimir Volfovich are you this?
        1. Khrushchev
          Khrushchev 21 January 2014 00: 05
          0
          Vladimir Volfovich is a smart man. and I couldn’t say such garbage. Because he perfectly understands that Crimea without Ukraine is nothing. For armored people who will now begin to prove the opposite, I note that most of the cargo traffic of Crimean ports provides traffic through / from / to Ukraine. And the most important thing is the provision of fresh water through the North Crimean canal.
  4. Kirzhak
    Kirzhak 14 November 2013 18: 57
    +6
    I do not understand countries frantically rushing into the EU. What, examples of Greece, Cyprus, Spain did not teach them anything? Or, the main thing is to get Schengen, and shed from your country, to wash floors somewhere in Germany for a penny?
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 14 November 2013 19: 10
      +8
      The leadership of these countries and their offspring will not wash floors in Germany, but having a small bank account received from the EU will calmly observe what is happening from their London or Berlin home!
      1. Walking
        Walking 14 November 2013 19: 39
        +2
        What other example? Until they try, don’t take a sip with a full spoon, they don’t even think about it.
    2. morpex
      morpex 14 November 2013 19: 47
      +1
      Quote: Kirzhak
      examples of Greece, Cyprus, Spain did not teach anything

      I apologize! In the above countries live worse than in Russia or Ukraine?
      1. Kirzhak
        Kirzhak 14 November 2013 20: 19
        +3
        I apologize! In the above countries live worse than in Russia or Ukraine?

        To be honest, I did not mean the standard of living. The fact is that, unlike them, I am sure that I will not be thrown out into the street tomorrow, and after a month my family will not stand in line for a bowl of free soup and I will disappear at all rallies and protest demonstrations.
        1. goldfinger
          goldfinger 14 November 2013 22: 22
          +1
          Quote: Kirzhak
          To be honest, I did not mean the standard of living. The fact is that, unlike them, I am sure that I will not be thrown out into the street tomorrow, and after a month my family will not stand in line for a bowl of free soup and I will disappear at all rallies and protest demonstrations.

          From Minsk. For example, we don’t have this. Maybe they will correct me, but from the Russian media I learned that in some cities and towns of Russia, some factories, even city-forming ones, were closed. And there were unrest, somewhere, like, in Pikalevo, that there was no work. Maybe it's the media, in the pursuit of chernukha pumped up?
          1. morpex
            morpex 15 November 2013 00: 19
            +2
            Quote: goldfinger
            Maybe it's the media, in the pursuit of chernukha pumped up?

            What a ... chernukha! Follow the link: How Putin "raised" the domestic industry for 12 years http://www.yaplakal.com/forum1/topic682785.html ...
        2. morpex
          morpex 15 November 2013 00: 13
          0
          Quote: Kirzhak
          To be honest, I did not mean the standard of living.

          The fact of the matter is that he, the level, is much higher. At least than in Ukraine. And in these countries a dime a dozen of my compatriots. who work for them.
          Quote: Kirzhak
          . The fact is that, unlike them, I’m sure that they will not throw me out tomorrow, and

          In my opinion, this is too much for you. Work to lose, yes, I agree. So we have much more unemployment.
          Quote: Kirzhak
          my family will not stand in line for a bowl of free soup

          We won’t give soup ...

          Quote: Kirzhak
          and I disappear at all rallies and demonstrations of protest.

          you won’t be surprised either. There’s such a layer of the population that you don’t feed bread, let’s just hold a meeting. Some people still hold rallies after the collapse of the USSR. And it helped some to take seats in the parliament and they’re doing it instead of building the country. that bring people out into the street .... Because they don’t know anything else.
    3. yur
      yur 14 November 2013 20: 22
      +3
      As can be seen from the article, Schengen is not given even to the EU members, and even to all associates, as it was written above, "like crustaceans to the sky."
  5. MG42
    MG42 14 November 2013 19: 01
    +6
    Bulgaria and Romania are ready to join Schengen. But at the moment in the EU there is such a situation, as a result of which the Schengen space cannot be expanded in 2014. The EU is not ready for this. ”

    They can be understood, and so the old EU members were covered by a stream of illegal immigrants who climb out of all the cracks, while in the EU record unemployment now, in particular, Romanian gypsies, has got the French, especially Sarkozy has not expressed tolerance. Öland is more tolerant of course ..
    Along with hundreds of thousands of gypsies living in France for centuries, the country has about 15 thousand gypsies - immigrants from Eastern Europe (mainly from Romania and Bulgaria). As citizens of these countries, they have the right to visa-free entry to France, but for a legal stay in the country they need a work permit or residence permit. According to AFP, in 2010 alone, about 10 thousand East European gypsies were deported to their homeland, but soon most of them returned to France.


    http://www.segodnya.ua/world/frantsija-nachala-deportatsiju-tsyhan-v-rumyniju-i-
    bolhariju.html
  6. zvereok
    zvereok 14 November 2013 19: 02
    +3
    "The cost of Russian gas for Western Europe fell in the third quarter of 2013 compared to the second quarter after negotiations with European companies to revise prices, said Mikhail Rosseev, Deputy Chief Accountant of Gazprom, during a conference call."

    Medvedev proposed introducing an advance payment for utilities.
    The government decided not to freeze the increase in tariffs for the population.

    For a long time and sharply the question has been raised: for whom does the Most Holy work led by his degenerative government?

    PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
  7. major071
    major071 14 November 2013 19: 06
    +7
    Well, slippers gentlemen, too, someone must submit. If you are satisfied with the role of a servant, then welcome to the EU, they are waiting for you there, with open arms. negative
  8. terkin.vasi
    terkin.vasi 14 November 2013 19: 30
    +1
    The authorities of these countries reveal their true face, that they are not able to fulfill their responsibilities for the development of their own countries. Where self-development, they are what they think. What will they bring on a silver platter? No.
  9. shitovmg
    shitovmg 14 November 2013 19: 38
    +3
    Will return to us! The question is when, with what losses for ourselves and costs for us! Ordinary people will suffer.
  10. Stiletto
    Stiletto 14 November 2013 19: 39
    +1
    That's strange: in the 41 year, the European Union itself was pushing, and Poland and Ukraine were resisting it as best they could. Now everything is exactly the opposite: they are ready to fight for the right to lick the master's boot.
  11. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 14 November 2013 19: 42
    +4
    It's sad to read all this .. how we Slavs were brought under the slogan "DIVIDE .. PILOT AND RULE"
    Black times for us have been going on since the 90s ... and continue under the gigging of the Anglo-Saxons, Jews, Islamists gayevropy .. Around them shouting at them and laughter .. I personally have the feeling! The only question is when will we unite.? Or will we die according to the principle "My hut is on the edge .. or it is not bad to feed us here too ..." ???
  12. ZU-23
    ZU-23 14 November 2013 20: 27
    +2
    Well, sho Ukraine, you still need this cute zoo called the EU)))
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 14 November 2013 20: 38
      +3
      Quote: ZU-23
      Well, sho Ukraine, you still need this cute zoo called the EU)))

      Ukraine - no! It is necessary for the five oligarchs who have already bought factories in Europe - Akhmetov, Kolomoisky, etc. Well, Lviv is still "eager to return home." In general, they are going to adhere to European standards, even if they do not sign the association. I wonder who's in the way now?
      Undoubtedly, our media are now loose, and even the "former" have revived!
      Former President of Ukraine Leonid Kravchuk is convinced that the issue of Yulia Tymoshenko, if desired, can be resolved two hours before the start of the Vilnius Summit ....
      In politics, everything is decided either for a very long time, or very quickly, "said Kravchuk. For example, he cited the experience of signing the Belovezhskaya Agreement." Was he expected? No! We decided very quickly, based on the laws. That is, the issue in this case about Tymoshenko's treatment - I note, about treatment - can be resolved even two hours before the summit, "he explained.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-131179.html
      In this case, I'm not interested in the question with Yulia, but how this ... this .... speaks of signing the Bialowieza Agreement. There's something about it! Decide everything two hours before the summit! Annul the agreement as accepted by degree and ..... hi Unbreakable Alliance laughing
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 14 November 2013 20: 49
        +3
        Yes, I’m watching the news today, and Azarov has already begun to pro-Russian songs to sing, they say we need to work closely with Russia, but he’s silent about joining the CU and is silent about the EU, it’s obvious that someone doesn’t give, maybe Vladimir Vladimirovich the ear sank. Yes, really take to plant these oligarchs to Yule, and for which there is always)))
    2. Yura
      Yura 14 November 2013 20: 42
      +1
      smile
      Quote: ZU-23
      Well, sho Ukraine, you still need this cute zoo called the EU)))

      The EU is not the whole zoo. The EU at this zoo is serpentarium.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 14 November 2013 20: 54
        +2
        Yes, that’s not the right word, Toto of Hollywood is not even audible anymore, here the Euroshow is enough)))
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 14 November 2013 20: 40
    +4
    Eastern Europe still hasn’t realized that their pseudo-integration is nothing but the fear of old Europe of the recent socialist past of these countries ... the task is to keep it as far as possible from Russia. They wave their gingerbread for a long time, but they don’t even let it smell ... all at a distance. Eastern Europe did not understand that the EU is not CMEA ... and they are expected there as consumers and only ... but what to buy if there is no money ... the remnants of the Soviet past for a penny were sold to the West and they quickly ended. The task of Old Europe is to ensure that the new members are degraded and could not even dream of restoring their economic relations with Russia. The growth of the emptiness of the population in these territories is growing, it can be assumed that they will soon become reservations for the rapidly growing Muslim component ... they will be given for slaughter, like sheep.
  14. Humpty
    Humpty 14 November 2013 21: 04
    +2
    I do not think that most people in Ukraine want to live in German Ashenhall. Further they will not be allowed to pass anyway.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 14 November 2013 21: 17
      0
      Quote: Humpty
      I don’t think that most people in Ukraine want to live in German Ashenhall

      Right! But it took the Luhansk businessmen to put them on the shelves and poke their noses! And now Yanukovych admits that our goods are not competitive in the EU. (today is the last statement). And they unfolded a picture for him. Europe needs a market to sell its stale goods, and they throw these products at us. Our factories will close. Unemployment for people (1) taxes are not paid (2) accordingly, there is no place to get money for salaries for teachers, doctors, pensioners, etc. (3) People have no money - who will buy European goods? (4) At the same time, we are already losing so much by quarreling with Russia. Nobody will reimburse. So they thought .... And there will be a very good excuse for the EU - "businessmen asked to postpone the association for a year to modernize production" And Yanukovych is all in white ... laughing
    2. ZU-23
      ZU-23 14 November 2013 21: 18
      +2
      So in general, when you start sorting everything out in your head as much as you know yourself, you wonder how such an idea you could visit Ukraine at all, now angels and demons are beating in it, it’s the Mother of Russian Orthodoxy, obviously this is not full-fledged Russian people muddied)))
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 14 November 2013 21: 16
    +5
    The problem of Kosovo is that the SERBs were appointed guilty of everything. And the settlement process itself is not going from scratch, the Serbs are being given new demands - I don’t know out of habit or on purpose, but peace is the right of both parties.
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 14 November 2013 21: 23
      +1
      Putin has already stood up for them, told Belgrade that they would stop all criminal prosecutions of former politicians.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 14 November 2013 21: 41
        +2
        Quote: ZU-23
        Putin has already stood up for them

        So they don’t intercede! At first we gave the Serbs to tear apart NATO, and now we are trying to build relations with them?
        1. ZU-23
          ZU-23 14 November 2013 22: 22
          +2
          Yes, we ourselves then at least take it with our hands, we really could only stand up for Syria at our own peril and risk, so these conversations that we gave someone simply are not appropriate, we really just could not protect anyone, we are from Chechnya the bastards barely caught, they simply didn’t even let us calmly beat the militants in their country, then you cannot bomb this bomb with this bomb, or let them go to that mountain or to another.
          1. tor11121
            tor11121 15 November 2013 05: 42
            0
            really we could stand up for everything! if the government had not crap with Serbia itself.
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 15 November 2013 19: 45
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            Quote: ZU-23
            Yes, then take yourself with your hands

            Yes, it was not necessary at that time to lay bones for Serbia, it was just enough to land a dozen F-16s near Belgrade on the ground and that’s all !!! Very NATO do not like to lose their Air Force units.
            Indeed, on a large occasion, the sky of Belgrade was guarded by ZU-2-type installations. It is enough to put in a small amount of modern air defense systems, and it is not known who took it. The march on Pristina of our paratroopers showed that they were unguarded fighters and how they perceived the problems of military planning and what It would be with them if the Serbs had modern weapons. And so they rolled from the country a strategy of universal democratization from the air!
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  16. Nikolay D.
    Nikolay D. 14 November 2013 21: 44
    +1
    All this reminds me of the work of A.N. Tolstoy's "Buratino", only with a bad ending. There, Buratino (Ukraine) made by Pope Karl (USSR) falls into the circus of the bearded man Barabas (Deutschland, we abstract from the USA for a while) and remains, along with other dolls (Eastern Europe) in slavery. Who is Duremar in this play, that is the question.
    Here is an analogy, albeit unfinished.
    Surprisingly, the film "Pinocchio" quite accurately showed all the interconnections, subtleties and confrontations of that time (just that?), There is the struggle between socialism and capitalism, and the decaying slave-owning West, etc., and human groaning, and the difficulties of choice. Now we understand that the propaganda of the USSR was not far from the truth.
  17. zennon
    zennon 14 November 2013 21: 56
    +2
    “Next year, neither Bulgaria nor Romania will join Schengen,” because there is “too much resistance in the EU” on the issue of accession of these countries to the Schengen agreement. Barroso recalled that in October of this year, Germany, France and the Netherlands opposed this step.

    Nobody needs their gypsies.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 14 November 2013 22: 32
      +1
      Quote: zennon
      The speakers were Germany, France and the Netherlands.
      That is the backbone and the main users of this great European friendship. In emergency mode, these European boulders will throw the rest off like a smelly pea from a dog’s tail. Only wag their tail))) A big plus in the European Union is that they don’t shoot .. Separate greetings to Switzerland. Very their alpine cows bring a lot of income to the Swiss .. Their army is sweet enough to close the passes (that's the embodiment of the slogan, we don’t want our land, but we won’t give our own (and we will nationalize banks bully)
  18. Bogranz
    Bogranz 14 November 2013 21: 56
    0
    Relatively serious analysis - the article is frankly rather weak.
  19. samoletil18
    samoletil18 14 November 2013 22: 27
    +4
    "Well, son, did your Poles help you?"
  20. kundyshev
    kundyshev 14 November 2013 22: 44
    0
    "... What about freebies?
    Dear, free cheese only in a mousetrap ... "


    And only once !!!
  21. alone
    alone 14 November 2013 22: 47
    +2
    Moreover, if Bulgaria and Romania as EU members, at least, can count on financial and economic assistance from the same European Commission or working with it in a single anti-crisis IMF link, then the Eastern Partnership member states represented by Azerbaijan, Armenia, Belarus, Georgia , Moldova and Ukraine can not count on this.


    let them stick their financial and economic assistance to themselves in one place. Yes, and your advice too. we’ll figure out how to live.

    P.S. Ours have long understood that if Turkey has not been admitted to the EU for so long, then they will not accept us there.
    1. Yura
      Yura 14 November 2013 23: 15
      +1
      Quote: lonely
      P.S. Ours have long understood that if Turkey has not been admitted to the EU for so long, then they will not accept us there.

      And they will promise to promise, and there may still be an association, it’s like on paper that some confirm that they promised to join, others confirm that they promised to join. For both parties, fulfilling just promises is not necessary, but the fuss around their interests comes with terrible force, everyone is looking for their own benefit, joint interests are always the interests of the countries richer because they dictate the conditions, because those who are poorer try to negotiate preferences for themselves. WHAT THE RICH POSSIBLE TO GIVE TO THE POOR - ONLY MONEY, WHAT THE POOR TO GIVE TO THE POOR TO THE RICH POSSIBLE - ONLY FREEDOM. The terms of trade are initially unfair.
      1. alone
        alone 14 November 2013 23: 59
        0
        the maximum that it will be possible to sign this simplification in obtaining visas and all.
  22. pensioner
    pensioner 14 November 2013 22: 51
    +1
    Eastern Europe on the margins of the European Union
    Why is it so modest? They would say bluntly - in the EU. As if the Britons with the Germans and "Vikings" once considered them for people ...
  23. Imigrantt
    Imigrantt 14 November 2013 22: 59
    +3
    It is now!!!!!
  24. Imigrantt
    Imigrantt 14 November 2013 23: 01
    0
    Well, in general, without comments !!!! hi
  25. m_o_r_o
    m_o_r_o 14 November 2013 23: 14
    +1
    Quote: Vovka Levka
    The powers that be do not want to go to Russia, because there they will put in place quickly. It will be keeping quiet. They will squeeze the eggs and take away the capital.

    I would like to go to Europe, the reason is simple, so they stole that the economy is an ass. But the problem is that no one in Europe will tolerate the "concept".


    the fact of the matter is, Europe has its own laws, and they are for their own, and not for the cunning Ukrainian bureaucrats and rich.
    over time they will squeeze out there, especially since there is already a precedent - banks in Cyprus. Yes, Pasha in the states got looted very nicely - to prove, proved, and the deducted money went to court costs and to lawyers wink
  26. Exististor
    Exististor 14 November 2013 23: 25
    +2
    Eastern bosota in the back shed of geyropa. This is called a gypsy camp. Uh, darling romance!
  27. voliador
    voliador 15 November 2013 00: 21
    -1
    Interestingly, it will reach the saloids that no one is waiting for them in the geyrop?
    1. Vasily Klopkov
      Vasily Klopkov 15 November 2013 02: 48
      0
      Already reached. Personally, I never doubted that. And Azarov also experienced our third day’s inspiration that no one would compensate us for the loss of Russian markets. Can I ask a question? Do you never eat fat at all? Where does such contempt for the fraternal people come from?
      1. Ribwort
        Ribwort 15 November 2013 08: 23
        +1
        Quote: Vasily Klopkov
        Do you never eat fat at all?

        Fat ended - the dark days have come ... But only in Russia good is hard to find. Private traders almost do not keep pigs - not profitable. The cost of 1 kg. compound feed, at its current price, for some reason does not give a gain in meat for the same amount. And the imported one in the store, which is often given out as domestic, the skin is like a sole, you will not live and will not bite. And the taste of fat itself, even if you salt it yourself, leaves much to be desired.

        I buy from Belarusians in the market, although it is inferior to what I ate in childhood, when a pig was fired not on a blowtorch, but on straw. But from Ukraine fat just did not meet. There is information that there is no one left there - they are buying in Poland. If so - sad ...
        Respectfully ... Honored Saloyed.
        PS By the way, Russian by nationality wink
  28. derdeonis
    derdeonis 15 November 2013 05: 10
    0
    Here is what awaits them
    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4_%D0%9C%D1%83%D1%81%D
    0%BE%D1%80%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2
    someone should do it
  29. DimychDV
    DimychDV 15 November 2013 10: 01
    0
    The most rotten: the liberals of the United States and Europe fueled this war in Yugoslavia, during which they sided with the Muslims. All sins were blamed and all dogs were hanged on the Serbs, including they were accused of ethnic cleansing. But it turned out in the end that the national shrine of the Serbs - the Kosovo field - ended up in Kosovo in Albania. Only due to the fact that the Albanians settled everything under the auspices of KFOR. And let the Irish settle in Gettysburg in the States - and declare national autonomy in that place? Yes, all of them WASPs (white-Anglo-Sax-Protestant) will simply be erased into powder !!!
    But in Serbia this is possible, and all according to the European liberal laws? ..
    So the war is not over yet. It’s only that it was programmed in the same place where it started - and all the same who was to blame for it.
  30. PPP
    PPP 15 November 2013 10: 11
    0
    All countries of Eastern Europe are historically satellite.
  31. Vasily Klopkov
    Vasily Klopkov 15 November 2013 12: 32
    +2
    Quote: Ribwort
    But from Ukraine fat just did not meet

    Well, then come to us in Kharkov, I will show you places where you can find good fat. And this is for you as a keepsake wink
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 15 November 2013 14: 32
      +2
      Quote: Vasily Klopkov
      Quote: Ribwort
      But from Ukraine fat just did not meet

      Well, then come to us in Kharkov, I will show you places where you can find good fat. And this is for you as a keepsake wink

      You have a cake in the photo - it's sweet laughing
      But there is fat in Ukraine, I believe you. My aunt from Vinnitsa was just a week ago at my place. She brought smoked salsa, the taste is magical, we don’t even have that close. It looks something like this.
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 15 November 2013 21: 19
      0
      Quote: Vasily Klopkov
      Well, then come to us in Kharkov, I will show you places where you can find good fat.

      Polish?
  32. Vasily Klopkov
    Vasily Klopkov 15 November 2013 18: 41
    0
    Quote: Max Otto
    You have a cake in the photo - it's sweet

    What really is a cake? How could I be wrong? And it looks like fat. What just do not come up.
    And yet, our rulers did something wrong this year with all these geopolitical feuds, customs wars, and food bans. Because ordinary people suffer as a result.