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France will transfer Mistral technology to Russia when ordering two more ships

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France will transfer Mistral technology to Russia when ordering two more ships



All technologies for amphibious helicopter-carrying docks / DVKD / Mistral-type, including the SENIT-9 combat information and control system, France will transfer to Russia with guaranteed orders for the Russian Navy's 3 and 4-th ships. This was announced today by ITAR-TASS source in the military-industrial complex of France.

“When signing the contract for the first two helicopter carriers, it was stipulated that all the ship’s technologies, which the Russian side insisted on transferring, will be transferred with a guarantee on the order of the 3 and 4, the Mistral,” the source said.

The interlocutor recalled that during the pre-contract negotiations, the dispute went around two ship control systems of the NATO standard - the combat information-control system SENIT-9 and the command connection control system /fleet/ SIC-21.

The contract worth 1,15 billion euros for the construction of two Mistral-type helicopter carriers for the Russian Navy was signed in June 2011 in St. Petersburg. The contract provides for the construction of the first two ships at the STX shipyard in the French Saint-Nazaire. The first ship "Vladivostok" was launched and according to the plan will be handed over to the Russian Navy at the end of 2014, the second ship "Sevastopol" - in 2015.

October 15 2013, at the launching ceremony of the first Vladivostok DVKD in French Saint-Nazaire, Andrei Vernigora, head of the Russian defense department’s state defense order, said that the decision to build two more Mistral-type ships could be made only after Russia will receive practical experience in operating such helicopter carriers. "The decision on the 3 and 4-m DVKD has not disappeared. First, we must get the first ship and get experience in its operation," - he stressed.

What else the Russian Navy plans to buy in France

In addition, according to a source in the French defense industry, the Russian Defense Ministry plans to order two types of boats for Mistral-type ships. “The Russian side has requested two types of means for landing on the coast for testing - high-speed boats STM and catamarans L-CAT,” the source specified. “And in the plans of the Russian Navy there are procurement of both types.”

He stressed that four STMs or two L-CATs (E-DAR French name) can be placed in the Mistral helicopter carrier dock, or perhaps mixed placement - one L-CAT and two STMs. “There is a possibility that the Russian side will prefer the last option,” the source said.

“However, so far the Russian military department has not submitted to the French side the final technical requirement for equipping boats with Mistral-type amphibious assault ships,” he added.

Technical characteristics of the ship "Mistral"

Ships of the Mistral type have a displacement of 21 thousand tons, a maximum hull length of 210 m, a speed of up to 18 knots, a cruising range of up to 20 thousand miles. The crew is 170 people, in addition, a helicopter carrier can take on board 450 people. The air group includes 16 helicopters, six of which can simultaneously be placed on the take-off deck. The cargo deck of the ship can accommodate more than 40 tanks or 70 cars. Mistrals are capable of performing four tasks at once: take in helicopters, land military units on land, be the command center and a floating hospital.
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    1. Lindon
      Lindon 14 November 2013 07: 56
      +7
      Quote: SAG
      Order for Mistals, Iveco (Lynx), etc. merit of Mr. Serdyukov and no more!


      It’s impossible to blame everything on Serdyukov. He is not touched because he will immediately merge his masters. They even try to wash Vasiliev. We will see how it all ends.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 14 November 2013 08: 39
        +3
        Vasiliev will be imprisoned, her accomplices were handed over with giblets. Looks not in vain in a pre-trial detention center mumbled. and they will not split her like a stool. So it will sit and for him the same.
        1. alone
          alone 14 November 2013 19: 49
          +2
          "The Russian side has requested for testing two types of means for landing on the coast - high-speed boats STM and catamarans L-CAT, - said the source. - Moreover, the Russian Navy plans to purchase both types."


          what Is Russia unable to build speedboats and catamarans? belay
  2. TAGIR
    TAGIR 14 November 2013 07: 29
    +1
    The Americans will build 11 helicopter carriers, Japan 6. In short, they build everything. We are, as always, late. Moreover, the American ship takes on board almost 1600 soldiers. and our "Mistral" is only 450. Something is wrong here ...
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 14 November 2013 08: 05
      +7
      Quote: TAGIR
      Moreover, the American ship takes on board almost 1600 soldiers. and our "Mistral" is only 450. Something is wrong here ...

      Russia and the United States have completely different tasks. If Russia builds them for the needs of defense, then the United States for the needs of "democratization" of everyone and everything ...
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 14 November 2013 08: 23
        +4
        Quote: Tersky
        then the United States for the needs of "democratization" of everyone and everything ...
      2. klimpopov
        klimpopov 14 November 2013 09: 23
        +1
        Greetings! And yet, how is the helicopter carrier adapted for defense?
        But the Frenchmen are great, they are also blackmailing. In addition to Russia, is someone else ordering from them?
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 14 November 2013 08: 19
      +2
      Quote: TAGIR
      The Americans will build 11 helicopter carriers, Japan 6. In short, they build everything. We are, as always, late. Moreover, the American ship takes on board almost 1600 soldiers. and our "Mistral" is only 450. Something is wrong here ...
      What was ordered, then received. It was necessary to look at the numbers before signing the contract.
    3. alone
      alone 14 November 2013 19: 50
      +1
      since they’re talking about selling technology, do you think they’ll sell the most advanced? Such types are probably no longer needed by the French themselves, so they are trying to push unnecessary technology. Usually this is done.
  3. Sirs
    Sirs 14 November 2013 07: 30
    +2
    So I can’t understand why they ordered them? after all, how many more will be reworked to our standards.
  4. nemec55
    nemec55 14 November 2013 07: 32
    +1
    Here the question is, is it worth it? (Technology is probably not new) they give it away. And still, to add to this stubby nose, add a more authentic nose and you will get an Aircraft Carrier (well, as a last resort) soldier
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 14 November 2013 08: 10
      +4
      Quote: nemec55
      .And yet here to this chopped nose add a more authentic nose and get Aircraft Carrier

      It will turn out "frogs" Pinocchio under the Russian flag, from de @ ma candy, no matter how hard you try, not to make. failed. wink laughing
  5. makarov
    makarov 14 November 2013 07: 48
    +5
    Tricky. Until 3 and 4 are built, these technologies are most likely to become obsolete due to changes in the doctrines of war. And here they are trying to find ... bowing in friendliness.
    1. PLO
      PLO 14 November 2013 08: 57
      +5
      these are not French smart-ass, these are Moshniki stupid people
      at the moment everything goes to the fact that there will be no benefit from this contract for our industry, as they built in the old fashioned way, they will build, and technologies only as "black boxes"

      but many on this site with foam at the mouth argued about technology transfer as a fait accompli .. no matter how
      1. alone
        alone 14 November 2013 19: 52
        0
        Quote: olp
        these are not French smart-ass, these are Moshniki stupid people


        they’re very smart scammers, they keep their personal interests.
  6. mvg
    mvg 14 November 2013 08: 01
    0
    can we buy from ovs with 10-ok f-35s, we will cover the deck with tefalei and go into battle? vs Bush :-) what are you laughing at? and this from the BIOS Zenith make Ige
  7. marder4
    marder4 14 November 2013 08: 23
    0
    technology never hurts
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 14 November 2013 08: 32
      +2
      Purchasing their technologies, we will always be behind them.
      No one will sell his latest achievements.
    2. Sirs
      Sirs 15 November 2013 02: 33
      0
      I didn’t agree to pay for this, and my friends, too, we pay taxes! Better to allocate money for the development of hypersound !!!
  8. Baton
    Baton 14 November 2013 08: 27
    +4
    And if we order the 5th and 6th, they will give us the launch codes of their missiles laughing
  9. Boris55
    Boris55 14 November 2013 08: 29
    +3
    They justify the purchase of the Ministry of Strategies by the purchase of "new" technologies ... Has the Russian land really become impoverished?
    Most likely no. "AUTHORITIES need to be disinfected from HSE parasitism!"
    http://kpe.ru/sobytiya-i-mneniya/ocenka-sostavlyayuschih-jizni-obschestva/ekonom
    ika / 4314-need-disinfecting-power-of-parasitism-hse-th
  10. Unisonic
    Unisonic 14 November 2013 08: 34
    0
    Quote: Boris55
    Purchasing their technologies, we will always be behind them.
    No one will sell his latest achievements.

    Wrong. The purchase of technology is the only chance for Russia to catch up (in addition to their theft of course). Soviet Russia did the same in the 20s and 30s; China has been doing the same for decades. The classic movie is shorter.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 14 November 2013 08: 42
      +1
      20-30 years of the USSR was an agricultural country and urgent industrialization was required.
      Russia now is the former USSR, the heiress of one of the greatest powers.
      No one will sell the latest technology to us. I do not wish us to be the last.
      Read my post above:
      "The activities of the Higher School of Economics are aimed at the destruction and complete destruction of Russia. Obviously, such a strategy was laid in the foundation of this “scientific” institute. And, apparently, few of those who graduated from HSE are able to recognize its anti-Russian character. To date, the main, ultimately, the goal of the HSE (or rather its owners) is to educate and subsequently introduce liberal cadres - “effective managers” in the highest governing bodies of the Russian Federation".

      Frames decide everything
      .
  11. svskor80
    svskor80 14 November 2013 08: 36
    +3
    They need to build their own ships, and abroad, a maximum of latrine to order for them. Serdyukov should be held accountable only for the fact of the purchase of the Mistral.
  12. Serg 122
    Serg 122 14 November 2013 08: 43
    0
    It can be easier. Include the French Republic in the Russian Federation (we already have Depardieu). Then they themselves will tell us their secrets .... laughing
  13. ed65b
    ed65b 14 November 2013 08: 44
    +3
    We must take it. Do not interfere. And the money was deducted, there they stole completely. Yesterday, on RBC, Wasserman tortured Rosnanovtsev, they turned like snakes in a pan, did not answer a single question. In conclusion, Wasserman laughed and said that he received the answer about the effectiveness of the test, he is clear to you. The bald man was already blowing steam from his bald head, no money, no result, nothing.
    1. Fin
      Fin 14 November 2013 09: 31
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      We must take it. Do not interfere.

      Imagine a picture of oil: there are 4 huge troughs and quietly die at the pier. What tasks will they perform? The ship must go to sea. And how much is the dough. In the North and Baltic, BDK will cope. At the Pacific Fleet and Black Sea Fleet tasks can still be imagined. Enough and two. Better intelligence on BIUS works more actively.
  14. Unisonic
    Unisonic 14 November 2013 08: 48
    0
    Quote: Boris55
    20-30 years of the USSR was an agricultural country and urgent industrialization was required.
    Russia now is the former USSR, the heiress of one of the greatest powers.
    No one will sell the latest technology to us. I do not wish us to be the last.

    Maybe in 1932 the USSR was still an agrarian country, in the year of commissioning the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station built of German and American components (including hydroturbines), then in 1947, the USSR was clearly not an agrarian country. However, the Tu-4 bomber was adopted, and even built in an amount of at least 1100 pieces.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 14 November 2013 09: 06
      +1
      You probably know how B-29 Superfortress got to us.
      And where does the purchase of technology?
  15. Grbear
    Grbear 14 November 2013 09: 24
    +2
    What is there in Mistral that we cannot do what ? Technology is a carrot, not the first freshness.

    No need to become a donkey. And it is necessary to shake out managerISM from the Defense Ministry and the military-industrial complex.
  16. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 14 November 2013 09: 34
    0
    God, that is not good for me. Ready to give everything just to get rid of the Mistral
  17. UVB
    UVB 14 November 2013 10: 47
    0
    If a decision is made to build two more Mistrals, why build them in Russia? The French will definitely build faster and will cost no more than building in Russia. At the same time, our production facilities will not be involved, which can and should be used to build more serious ships. And the French will have to share technologies anyway.
  18. kafa
    kafa 14 November 2013 10: 51
    +1
    AHA AND IF RUSSIA WILL BUY 20 THESE BARGES THEN THE FRENCH WILL TELL HOW TO PLACE THEM lol
    1. UVB
      UVB 14 November 2013 11: 16
      0
      AHA AND IF RUSSIA WILL BUY 20 THESE BARGES THEN THE FRENCH WILL TELL HOW TO PLACE THEM
      So it is agreed upon increasing the contract to four ships.
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  20. Cynic
    Cynic 14 November 2013 11: 20
    +1
    Blackmail _ The business of life.