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By December, the Russian army will move to the "buffet"

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By December 1, the remaining 835 canteens will be finally transferred to military personnel units of the Ministry of Defense of Russia for the organization of catering for personnel with elements of the “buffet”. This will allow the serviceman, on the basis of preferences, to make an independent choice from the prepared dishes, reports Interfax-AVN.


Moreover, the assortment of dishes will be increased: catering includes the preparation of two first courses, three cold snacks and salad bar ingredients, as well as meat (fish) dishes and side dishes, five types of juices or drinks (fruit drinks).

At the moment, the troops completed the supply of about 1400 salad bars: the soldier will be able to choose the seasoning in the form of sauce or butter. You can also choose pickled or pickled vegetables, several types of cabbage, olives, olives, fresh greens, bell peppers, radishes, canned beans, green peas, corn and other ingredients.

Until December 1, more 5 700 tea rooms will also be equipped in the soldiers ’barracks and dormitories. To do this, the troops will be supplied more than 100 thousands of sets of tea pairs and about 26 thousands of electric kettles.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 13 November 2013 11: 24
    +6
    Guys who else serves tell how it actually happens ...
    1. rrrd
      rrrd 13 November 2013 11: 34
      -2
      I don’t know, I don’t know, I have recently served a friend of mine. served a year near Samara in air defense. they say they feed disgusting. they didn’t eat at all in the stall. there, next to the military unit, the store was there; they constantly shopped. he also told how at night, through the back gate (unknown persons), pallets with meat, fish, oil, etc., were taken out from the dining room in an unknown direction. accordingly, the commander of the unit knew about this since this very guy was at the post. Oddin once said in just 1 year they were fed when a general came. in part, the general drove on x6 obkatonnoy (tannirovanny) in a circle! The commander of the part for this BMW put up. the boys said they were laughing there! asked about weapons as I am interested in the topic of air defense. says parts were beeches, but beeches are old! communications between air defense units are not some (bad) consistency is not some (that is, the transmission of data on tracking air targets). something like that. and then I read about 1500 salads). Today I’ll tell him I’ll probably laugh)
      1. rrrd
        rrrd 13 November 2013 11: 37
        0
        I apologize for the errors I write from the tablet
      2. Lyapis
        Lyapis 13 November 2013 12: 05
        +6
        Here a lot depends on the size of the part. I remember in the training (in which there were about one and a half thousand l / s), they also fed very mediocre (and by the way, I also had to observe the story with the arrival of big bosses). Later I went on a business trip to one small part (less than a hundred soldiers), so they fed at home there! good

        Anyway, there was always a choice of 2-3 options for each dish. So, also kind of like a mini buffet.)
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 13 November 2013 19: 05
          +1
          Quote: Lyapis
          Here a lot depends on the size of the part. I remember in the training (in which there were about one and a half thousand l / s), they also fed very mediocre. Later I went on a business trip to one small part (less than a hundred soldiers), so they fed at home there!

          Spent all service on business trips.
          EVERYTHING depends on the commander, there were problems in the small parts and they were fed as if for slaughter in the big ones. If the commander does not allow to steal, then they feed decently, no matter how many personnel are there!
          1. Lyapis
            Lyapis 14 November 2013 04: 43
            +1
            I'm not saying that everything depends on the number of l / s and that in large parts a priori feed worse.
            But still there is a big difference between the dining room in some motorized rifle brigade, where several thousand people need to be fed in an hour and a half, and a small part where every soldier is known by name.
      3. Alez
        Alez 13 November 2013 12: 29
        +7
        Three cold appetizers and salad bar ingredients ???? I didn’t understand something, the snack goes to the liquor. Where is the wine list?
        1. Lyapis
          Lyapis 13 November 2013 13: 05
          0
          No, no, this didn’t reach (unfortunately laughing)
          2-3 options for the first, second and salad.
        2. Yarik
          Yarik 13 November 2013 18: 51
          0
          Bravo, I just wanted to ask about the presence of cold beer. wink
        3. Cherdak
          Cherdak 13 November 2013 21: 42
          -5
          Or maybe you have a hiking set for the buffet?
          1. Cherdak
            Cherdak 14 November 2013 13: 17
            0
            Yes, with humor, many just strained crying
        4. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 14 November 2013 06: 27
          +1
          one drink-C2H5ON ... why do you need a card? repeat
      4. piterkras
        piterkras 13 November 2013 15: 57
        +8
        And they always say that. Because I want to show off that I served in difficult conditions, but survived and even demobilized. Like, be proud of him, such a hero. I've served in the Army and I know firsthand that such "heartbreaking stories" can only be half believed. Always embellish.
      5. alone
        alone 13 November 2013 21: 20
        0
        Quote: rrrd
        he talked about how at night, through the back gate (unknown persons), pallets with meat, fish, oil, etc., were taken out from the dining room in an unknown direction. accordingly, the commander of the unit knew about this since this very guy was at the post.


        for sure all this was sold in the same store. laughing

        but seriously, such commanders just need to be put on the wall !! pedagogically ripping off shoulder straps.
        1. rrrd
          rrrd 13 November 2013 23: 02
          0
          Probably one of those minus and set you)
        2. alone
          alone 13 November 2013 23: 28
          +1
          minusers! you persuaded me! this commander must be promoted and rewarded for theft! wassat
      6. lazarev509
        lazarev509 12 December 2013 18: 14
        0
        And my brother served, he returned pleased. You approach yourself, pour yourself food and sit down. By the way, even supplements can be taken. Therefore, I am fully in favor of introducing a buffet in all parts of the country. Cooks must also be their own, the state is taking good measures to nourish the military.
    2. Airman
      Airman 13 November 2013 17: 51
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      Guys who else serves tell how it actually happens ...

      Interestingly, the buffet presents a choice of dishes, but if EVERYONE wants cutlets and does not want fish, then someone will not get the cutlets. Or if you prepare plenty of dishes, then where to put the leftovers. As far as I know, subsidiary plots are prohibited. And supply standards do not change. I served 30 years, but I don’t believe much, because the dining room is not a restaurant, where losses have already been added to the price of dishes.
    3. yurii p
      yurii p 13 November 2013 18: 49
      -3
      you apparently didn’t serve? I served in the SA there when the commander came to take a sample there was a separate plate with the first dish and separately with the second and a glass with compote, guess which boiler these samples will be from, something similar will happen and in this case theft will be colossal and most important the impossibility of calculating the costs, for example, Ivanov ate two cutlets and one Petrov, etc., and then how the counters will count out, VERY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES!
      1. Airman
        Airman 13 November 2013 19: 35
        +3
        Quote: yurii p
        you apparently didn’t serve? I served in the SA there when the commander came to take a sample there was a separate plate with the first dish and separately with the second and a glass with compote, guess which boiler these samples will be from, something similar will happen and in this case theft will be colossal and most important the impossibility of calculating the costs, for example, Ivanov ate two cutlets and one Petrov, etc., and then how the counters will count out, VERY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES!

        I myself took samples, as expected, but in front of me, without fail, I took a sample from a common boiler, a doctor, about which I signed in the book, I could only after it.
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 13 November 2013 19: 00
      -4
      Quote: svp67
      Guys who else serves tell how it actually happens ...

      Here I ......... forgot to take a picture of such a salad bar in the part. We wrote in the dust "Wash me" but we didn’t see the salads for sure. The conscripts said that this miracle is filled with salad delights every time a check comes. And this is Vyborg, is it worth talking about some kind of Mukho ... sk ??
      1. ramzes1776
        ramzes1776 14 November 2013 03: 06
        +3
        For some reason, an army buffet comes to my mind in the form of a tank with barley, chaff and oatmeal and a bunch of soldiers around with spoons laughing (joke)
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 14 November 2013 19: 24
        0
        Quote: APASUS
        True conscripts said that this miracle is filled with salad delights every time a check arrives

        By the number of cons I see soldiers just fed salads?
    5. Cherdak
      Cherdak 13 November 2013 21: 38
      -2
      The Japanese are still ahead
      1. Cherdak
        Cherdak 14 November 2013 13: 18
        0
        This must be issued to many to raise morale am
        1. Cherdak
          Cherdak 14 November 2013 17: 39
          -1
          ... to be always in shape!
    6. Barbara
      Barbara 12 December 2013 12: 22
      0
      Here it is not necessary to bring everything together! And do not confuse food in exercises and war zones with food in the garrisons. And outsourcing, without Serdyukov, is also not bad: the companies have passed all the necessary checks on the quality of food, and now the special spending of the allocated funds is under special control. Significant changes have been noticeable since the beginning of December. Now it will be much nicer to serve, although, of course, no one is going to turn the army into a spa resort.
  2. Ihrek
    Ihrek 13 November 2013 11: 27
    +8
    With such food, the service will be a joy. For a soldier, the main thing is a belly full and legs warm.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 11: 34
      13
      Quote: Jamal
      With such food, the service will be a joy

      He’s very likely to rush to the service, otherwise they got dumplings laughing
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 13 November 2013 11: 39
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        He’s very likely to rush to the service, otherwise they got dumplings

        Don't forget us wassat


        1. Akim
          Akim 13 November 2013 12: 01
          -1
          I watched the video. The only thing missing is a can of beer and craps on the stage. This is not an army, but a big top!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 12: 07
            +4
            Quote: Akim
            it’s not an army, but a big top!

            Normal army, I sit and envy remembering what we were fed in 94.
            1. svp67
              svp67 13 November 2013 12: 09
              +7
              Quote: Akim
              This is not an army, but a big top!

              I don’t understand something, and SUCH words are heard from a country that has decided to live according to "European standards" ... So I agree ...
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Normal army
              1. Akim
                Akim 13 November 2013 12: 21
                -4
                Quote: svp67
                SUCH words are heard from a country that has decided to live according to "European standards" ...

                Society is one thing, the army is another.
                1. Bizzz
                  Bizzz 13 November 2013 15: 04
                  +7
                  The army is also a society.
                  And you need to feed well, this is not cattle.
                  1. Akim
                    Akim 13 November 2013 15: 08
                    -1
                    Quote: Bizzz
                    And you need to feed well, this is not cattle.

                    You need to feed well, but do not make a cult out of food.
                    1. Bizzz
                      Bizzz 13 November 2013 15: 12
                      -3
                      I agree with you.
                2. piterkras
                  piterkras 13 November 2013 16: 03
                  +6
                  The army is the same society as in civilian life. In the Army, all the flaws and shortcomings of society are simply more pronounced.
            2. Akim
              Akim 13 November 2013 12: 20
              -3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              remembering what we were fed in 94.

              The fact that the products should be good no doubt. Here is such a choice bust. In the summer, that at the institute, that the soldier then, in the troops was fed from bowlers in order to avoid infection. While thousands will pass through the distribution a lot of time will run. And this is without a buffet and individual choice.
            3. olegff68
              olegff68 13 November 2013 13: 15
              +7
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: Akim
              it’s not an army, but a big top!

              Normal army, I sit and envy remembering what we were fed in 94.

              In my unit, in 94m, the soldiers were openly starving, BUT what is happening in the army now cannot be called normal either !!! - Civilian cooks, janitors, sleep hours, visiting days, lack of outfits in the dining room - children. kindergarten, honestly, but with such a life, the rank and file from the "fields" and gyms should not get out, and the machine gun should grow to their hands - but no, in this regard, the routine has changed little - marching, etc.
              1. Genur
                Genur 13 November 2013 13: 51
                -2
                So I’m thinking about what all kinds of stools turned the Army into. Who do they work for ...
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 13 November 2013 22: 24
                -3
                Quote: olegff68
                In my unit, in 94m, the soldiers were openly starving, BUT what is happening in the army now cannot be called normal either !!! - Civilian cooks, janitors, sleep hours, visiting days, lack of outfits in the dining room - children. kindergarten, honestly, but with such a life, the rank and file from the "fields" and gyms should not get out, and the machine gun should grow to their hands - but no, in this regard, the routine has changed little - marching, etc.

                Correctly. The soldier only has to walk in formation.
            4. nickname 1 and 2
              nickname 1 and 2 13 November 2013 16: 55
              -5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Normal army, I sit and envy remembering what we were fed in 94


              if it were possible to depict in reality, and hold (those who want to experience) another month on what they fed us in 64 !!!!

              And in other matters in the 90s, some where the guys were generally starving! what
            5. APASUS
              APASUS 15 November 2013 20: 00
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Normal army, I sit and envy remembering what we were fed in 94.

              He returned from the army (from the training camp) a couple of months ago. Bullshit, a movie for clowns. I haven’t seen these salads at once, and they didn’t feed us at all for the first day, you see, they don’t have to pay for it!
              Let children litter ears, about salad bars !!!!
              1. talSad
                talSad 19 November 2013 15: 15
                0
                Please for more details.
            6. talSad
              talSad 19 November 2013 15: 11
              0
              Hello. Question. Where were you fed?
          2. Nayhas
            Nayhas 13 November 2013 12: 39
            -2
            Quote: Akim
            I watched the video. The only thing missing is a can of beer and craps on the stage. This is not an army, but a big top!

            Well, it’s always beautiful with the camera ... I remember how the general came to check us, so they fed us like that !!!!!! Meat in the soup and soup with fatty film! In general, even the fact that on his arrival the walls were painted and putty all night and no one really slept, no one worried, ate plenty ...
      2. Ihrek
        Ihrek 13 November 2013 11: 40
        +6
        I would have at least tomorrow in my native Red Banner Northern Fleet. laughing
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 14 November 2013 06: 36
          +1
          the youngest son returned from the Baltic Fleet in 2010, the grub was not a damn thing, not because the guys in the galley could not cook, but just because of the.
          1. talSad
            talSad 19 November 2013 15: 19
            0
            450 liter steam-water boiler. Differs from a home saucepan by 4 + .- liters.
      3. Ptah
        Ptah 13 November 2013 12: 42
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        otherwise we got dumplings

        Yeah ...
        And in the army at the buffet and dumplings, and ravioli, and manti, and khinkali, and 捏 饺子.
        In general, an alternative to dumplings is the traveling wife.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 16: 14
          +1
          Quote: Ptah
          In general, an alternative to dumplings is the traveling wife.

          Only plans for today sad
      4. IRBIS
        IRBIS 13 November 2013 13: 57
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        He’s very likely to rush to the service, otherwise they got dumplings

        Sanya, and you drink them with vodka, then they don’t bother ... Just take different vodka! wink
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 16: 10
          +1
          Quote: IRBIS
          Sanya, and you drink them with vodka, then they don’t bother

          That's what real friends mean, will always help and save advice laughing
          Hi san hi
    2. Migari
      Migari 13 November 2013 11: 44
      10
      The soldier is full, the service is on. Who served he knows, especially at the beginning of the service. the appetite is brutal.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 13 November 2013 12: 06
        +7
        "Until December 1, more than 5 tea rooms will also be equipped in the soldiers' barracks and hostels. For this, more than 700 thousand sets of tea pairs and about 100 thousand electric kettles will be supplied to the troops."

        It’s high time to organize this phenomenon, I don’t know how it is now, but before, for boilers, boilers and gatherings with a seagull flew.
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 13 November 2013 13: 52
          0
          Quote: Vladimirets
          and earlier for boilers, boilers and gatherings with a seagull flew.

          Oh, flew in, Eugene ...
          And then often followed by a cheerful "funeral" of the found product 3-5 km away. from the PPD cross of the entire division.
          wink
          Yes, the tea room is a must.

          Just one thought:
          After all, it was not just that they chased food at the disposal. Himself then also drove the fighters.
          After all, one has only to lay a piece of bread in the bedside table or on the shelf in the classroom, HERE there are "stasics" ...

          You need a well-isolated food storage place in the tea rooms of the barracks. No way without it.
          1. IRBIS
            IRBIS 13 November 2013 14: 03
            +4
            Quote: Aleks tv
            HERE there are "stasics" ...

            And "stasiki" is not the worst thing yet. You’ll get rid of the rats later! I tore for food in the location mercilessly, to bloody snot at times.
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 13 November 2013 14: 21
              +6
              Quote: Aleks tv
              After all, one has only to lay a piece of bread in the bedside table or on the shelf in the classroom, HERE there are "stasics" ...

              Quote: IRBIS
              And "stasiki" is not the worst thing yet. You’ll get rid of the rats later!

              Well, Dunno, gentlemen, at the time, usually something was bought in a sailor's teahouse, something was gutted from the parcels and right there, practically, one-night devoured along with the wrappers. wink For a long time the grub in the nightstands didn’t lie about it for sure, the time was hungry. smile
              1. Aleks tv
                Aleks tv 13 November 2013 14: 42
                +1
                Quote: Vladimirets
                something was gutted from the parcels and right there, practically, in the same evening devoured along with the wrappers.


                Guys, I do not impose, but if you want to smile, read it.
                This was published a year ago on Military Review.
                About bulbulators and parcels. Just sort of like a "topic" of conversation and article.
                winked
                http://topwar.ru/18478-posylka-ili-novye-priklyucheniya-bulbulyatora-v-narodnom-
                kotelke.html
            2. Aleks tv
              Aleks tv 13 November 2013 14: 36
              0
              Quote: IRBIS
              And "stasiki" is not the worst thing yet. You’ll get rid of the rats later!

              Yes, Alexander.
              There is such a letter.
              Therefore, they drove us and we drove. And it is justified.
        2. luka095
          luka095 13 November 2013 19: 49
          +2
          In the 70s in the barracks, only the foreman in his capter drove teas ... And in the unit there was a buffet where you could drink tea and coffee. And at the sideboard there is still a small shop - and some products, and pasta for cleaning ...
        3. talSad
          talSad 19 November 2013 15: 22
          0
          Especially after the command "Rota lights out !!"
    3. piterkras
      piterkras 13 November 2013 16: 02
      -6
      For a soldier, the main thing is to put themselves in a military team normally. And do not get stuck in a whole year, dying on the floors. What is the difference, what to eat if the whole service is not a service, but servicing everyone?
      1. talSad
        talSad 19 November 2013 15: 24
        0
        And please in more detail.
  3. makarov
    makarov 13 November 2013 11: 28
    -2
    If there is a buffet, there will probably be a Swedish "chair". And how will it be with physiology now ??????
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 13 November 2013 11: 30
      16
      Quote: makarov
      If there is a buffet, there will probably be a Swedish "chair". And how will it be with physiology now ??????

      If only not the Swedish "family" wink !
    2. Ptah
      Ptah 13 November 2013 11: 42
      +2
      Quote: makarov
      And how will it be with physiology now?

      And to suppliers-comers to this, figuratively speaking - AT * RATH. Who will control that the products do not "go in the second or third round."

      The way out is this - at each canteen there is a pig farm for "utilization" of MOUNTAINS of waste. And for each military district - a personal PIG COMPLEX.

      What about Khazanov's "experiment" at the research institute ... laughing
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 13 November 2013 12: 41
        -3
        Quote: Ptah
        What about Khazanov's "experiment" at the research institute ...

        "and we are nothing, we have sniffed!"
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 13 November 2013 12: 50
          -1
          Someone yells - "Let's breed nutria - we will all walk in sheepskin coats."
          And the caretaker, this victim of "the struggle against plunderers of socialist property" says - Let's breed crocodiles. They make a good holster ".......

    3. Corsair
      Corsair 13 November 2013 11: 48
      +4
      Quote: makarov
      If there is a buffet, there will probably be a Swedish "chair". And how will it be with physiology now ??????

      Take care of the "physiology" of your soldiers ... WHAT will you feed?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 12: 10
        +3
        Quote: Corsair
        Feed what will you?

        And what about someone in the EU who promised to feed someone?
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 13 November 2013 12: 23
          +6
          That you all pounced on "Akimka" and "Makarov". They can ts. They are "punching the topic" on the subject of copulating with the EU or immediately surrendering to Russia.
          Even for grub and warm barracks "gassed with peas". laughing
          1. Akim
            Akim 13 November 2013 12: 25
            -4
            Quote: Ptah
            Ptah

            Amateurs!
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 13 November 2013 12: 28
              +6
              Quote: Akim
              Amateurs!

              Who! Where are the amateurs? And who are the "amateurs"? When it comes to devouring, we're not like that ...
              1. Akim
                Akim 13 November 2013 12: 35
                -3
                Quote: Ptah
                Who! Where are the amateurs? And who are the "amateurs"?

                You reason from the principle of an individual well-fed stomach, and not from the position of command and control of troops.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 16: 20
                  +2
                  Quote: Akim
                  You reason from the principle of an individual well-fed stomach, and not from the position of command and control of troops.

                  Let the generals talk about the principles of military control, and the soldier should not think about how to grab an extra piece of bread in the galley.
                  1. Akim
                    Akim 13 November 2013 16: 30
                    -2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    and the soldier should not think how to grab an extra piece of bread in the galley.

                    Naturally, if you serve according to the principle: "The soldier is asleep - the service is underway" Give him free rein, he will lead a woman to the barracks. And this is the first step. Eat son, as much as the soul asks. For ... for a while - the main thing is that we have you. Showers and coffee machines are available, and footcloths will be canceled, because they do not look glamorous.
                    And they will force the responsible officer to sing lullaby to them.
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 16: 35
                      +1
                      Quote: Akim
                      . And showers and coffee machines in the location, and footcloths canceled, because they do not look glamorous.

                      As for showers, this is necessary and correct, if served, it means I encountered both scabies and linen lice. Coffee machines do not bother anyone, and as for the footcloths, I’ll say for myself. I threw them out after a month of service and walked in socks. You stayed somewhere in the 20th century. There have always been critics of innovation at all times, but time has passed and everything has changed.
                      1. Akim
                        Akim 13 November 2013 16: 57
                        -3
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        , then I came across both scabies and linen lice

                        Sasha, where did you serve? In the tsarist army? Or where the colonels immediately give ?.
                        At the same time, you know the proverb: How lousy bath? That's the way the shower will help.
                        With dysentery, you can often encounter than with frequency. There is a bathing day, there is a mandatory change of underwear and underwear. And laziness is thrown a foot in a sink, didn’t stink? Footcloths have changed. Have you ever encountered a fungus?
                        I will always be sure that life in the army should be conservative.
                      2. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 13 November 2013 17: 18
                        +7
                        Quote: Akim
                        Sasha, where did you serve? In the tsarist army?

                        In the warrior. Where there is war, there are the bets. Inevitable companion.
                        Only souls to fight them is useless. Total roasting, chemicals and quarantine.
                        Souls increase their own psychological comfort. At the 4 school of the year in the barracks, the water is only cold, but we pranked the shower gander right after KMB. And 4 of the year washed under it. There were bathing days, a city bathhouse with a steam room, but all the same, a shower was needed.

                        Quote: Akim
                        With dysentery, you can often encounter than with frequency.

                        If there are no layoffs. If they are frequent, a frequency is also possible. It's just that the medical unit should work fine.


                        Quote: Akim
                        And laziness is thrown a foot in a sink, didn’t stink?

                        Leg shells in the barracks appeared even during the USSR. Why poke feet in washbasins?
                      3. Akim
                        Akim 13 November 2013 17: 39
                        -2
                        Quote: Spade
                        Why poke feet in washbasins?

                        Three foot baths in the company. And how many souls will be at the location? Will it be like with a morning toilet before charging? 6 pushes and queues.
                        As for the war ... Thank God there is none in Russia now. And if, God forbid, come then the buffet there will be useless. But the soldiers will be accustomed to comfort.
                      4. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 13 November 2013 19: 45
                        +4
                        Quote: Akim
                        But the soldiers will be accustomed to comfort.

                        Is it really bad? Accustomed to the comfort of soldiers and in the fields the dirt will not grow.
                        A buffet is also possible in war. Soldering by soldering, but onions and garlic could be burst from the belly. Plus fat.
                      5. Pimply
                        Pimply 13 November 2013 22: 27
                        -2
                        Available. I’ll confirm it. We had.
                      6. talSad
                        talSad 19 November 2013 15: 34
                        0
                        Where from? Onions, garlic, lard. In whose gardens
                  2. Pimply
                    Pimply 13 November 2013 22: 27
                    -3
                    Quote: Spade
                    In the warrior. Where there is war, there are the bets. Inevitable companion.
                    Only souls to fight them is useless. Total roasting, chemicals and quarantine.
                    Souls increase their own psychological comfort. At the 4 school of the year in the barracks, the water is only cold, but we pranked the shower gander right after KMB. And 4 of the year washed under it. There were bathing days, a city bathhouse with a steam room, but all the same, a shower was needed.

                    Did shampoos against lice be canceled?

                    In addition, daily washing and keeping clean - it, as it were, just contributes to the fact that the louse does not appear.
                  3. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 13 November 2013 22: 39
                    +4
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Did shampoos against lice be canceled?
                    In addition, daily washing and keeping clean - it, as it were, just contributes to the fact that the louse does not appear.

                    This is another louse, not a head louse, from which showers and shampoos help. I have never met such in my entire service. Only batters. Well, sometimes soldiers from their friends brought "funny lice" from their friends.
                    Betera - lice. And you can get rid of them only by frying in DDA and special fluids that process the seams. Well, in quarantine, it is enough for a fighter from another unit to arrange gatherings on the bed, you can fry in a new way.
                  4. Pimply
                    Pimply 13 November 2013 22: 50
                    -3
                    Quote: Spade
                    This is another louse, not a head louse, from which showers and shampoos help. I have never met such in my entire service. Only batters. Well, sometimes soldiers from their friends brought "funny lice" from their friends.
                    Betera - lice. And you can get rid of them only by frying in DDA and special fluids that process the seams. Well, in quarantine, it is enough for a fighter from another unit to arrange gatherings on the bed, you can fry in a new way.


                    Shovels, usually when they say - nothing else helps: there is definitely something else. Just not familiar with him. 8)
                  5. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 13 November 2013 22: 52
                    +3
                    I called that helps. Proven by long practice.
                2. talSad
                  talSad 19 November 2013 15: 45
                  0
                  In what year did lice shampoos appear? The banality "Cleanliness !!! - The Key to Health!"
              2. talSad
                talSad 19 November 2013 15: 41
                0
                Far from us to shampoos. I don’t know how to wash for WWII, but there were already voshezharki
                albeit in the middle of the war.
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 13 November 2013 17: 06
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          As for showers, this is necessary and correct, if served, it means I encountered both scabies and linen lice

          Showers won't help here.
        3. Pimply
          Pimply 13 November 2013 22: 27
          -5
          Help, more than.
        4. Timeout
          Timeout 14 November 2013 07: 35
          +1
          Eugene, Russia is not Israel, where is the war there PPD. And it is really not easy to withdraw the armored personnel carriers, the magic washers are specially introduced into the sanitary minimum during hostilities or when troops are in the field. Exactly two weeks without changing or washing clothes, all the seams are infested with parasites. Himself urgently behind the river crawled through the mountains and I know this subject to "yat" about the Caucasus generally keep quiet, to describe too lazy ... Here's how they describe it on Art. http://artofwar.ru/a/afanasxew_i_m/text_0280.shtml
          Body lice - a detachment of small
          wingless parasitic
          insects. blood stitching
          oral apparatus.

          Few people in the Union knew about such a disaster that many in the limited contingent in Afghanistan suffered.
          The topic is certainly not very, but why unnecessary coquetry, what was it was.
          Yes, those same body lice. They fought mercilessly with them. Boiled and washed the clothes after a few days. Almost everyone in the tent had a 5-liter "paste" tin. This was the name of dry potatoes, from which mashed potatoes were made, very similar to wallpaper glue.
          In these banks at night, on stoves, potbelly stoves they cooked underwear (soldier's underpants pair) with soap shavings. When the water with linen began to boil, the men of duty lifted the owners of the cans, and they washed their linen and dried it immediately in the tent.
          Regular examinations were carried out weekly for the presence - absence of lice. Most inspections were carried out in the winter, when the regiment was more often at its location.
          On a frosty winter day, the regiment went to the parade ground. Then each company gained interval and distance so that a commission led by senior officers could inspect each soldier. The soldiers opened the pea jacket, unzipped the gymnast and breeches, untied the pants.
          The regimental doctor came up and carefully examined the linen seams in underwear, especially in open pants. If in what company the poor fellow was found, then the commanders flew in, in full. They drove the entire regiment through a special machine that fry the laundry.
          And a week later the examinations continued.
          Lice especially got in the summer, in military operations. It was a real disaster for everyone, and soldiers and officers suffered from it. Washing clothes in cold water with soap yielded nothing. A thin strip of bites went through the body, in those places where the seams of the gymnast and bananas were adjacent to it.
          The bitten places were very itchy, and therefore, before falling asleep, it was necessary to scratch vigorously and try to sleep. If you wake up from unbearable itching in the middle of the night, then until the morning you will not fall asleep from the fact that lice crawl on your skin.
          There was one way that provided more moral comfort than physical relief. Before going to bed, the fighters took off their cotton. They put it on a smooth boulder and tapped with the body of an F-1 grenade. With satisfaction, listening to the nits and lice crunching in the linen seams.
          Everyone suffered from this disaster, but endured with dignity. They were waiting for access to the armor, where you can wash in warm water, change clothes and fry old ones.
          Unpleasant !? But it was, so we fed lice, like the soldiers of former warriors and generations.

          Everything is described exactly!
  • talSad
    talSad 19 November 2013 15: 30
    0
    About to devour. This is Yeah !! But also porridge from the ax, the same must be able to cook.
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 13 November 2013 14: 00
    +2
    Quote: makarov
    If there is a buffet, there will probably be a Swedish "chair". And how will it be with physiology now ??????

    The main thing is that there is no "Swedish" family ...
    Otherwise, there will be problems with physiology and with the "chair" ...
  • domokl
    domokl 13 November 2013 11: 28
    +1
    It’s interesting ... Will they again build sanatoriums in central Russia? Or will they send something to the east too? Beautiful prospects. May God grant it to be so.
  • Ptah
    Ptah 13 November 2013 11: 28
    +1
    But you can’t feed efficiently and variably by the days of the week, for example?
    And do not put barrels of green peas, corn or beans on the table daily.
    And where uneaten in a day? Serve again the next day or "plant" in the nearest cafe?
    It would be nice to pay attention to suppliers of the same vegetables. Almost entirely China and Asia.
    One can see lobbying for someone's selfish interests. IMHO.
    1. Akim
      Akim 13 November 2013 11: 36
      -2
      Quote: Ptah
      A day uneaten where?

      A pile of thrown products.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 13 November 2013 11: 46
        0
        Quote: Akim
        A pile of thrown products.

        I don’t know how now, but when I served food waste from the ships, private traders (farmers in a modern way) bought food waste to the general satisfaction of the parties (the naval base command is no longer concerned with transport and handling operations, the “hovermer” receives cheap and nutritious food for its animals ...
        By the way, a special pass was issued for the "citizen" and transport.
        1. Akim
          Akim 13 November 2013 11: 54
          -4
          Quote: Corsair
          I don’t know how now, but when I served food waste from ships, private traders bought it (farmers in a modern way)

          So they will support agriculture. It's still a money transfer. The "elephant" will not get peas and other goodies. And the difference between the purchase price of products and selling waste is a big penny.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 12: 12
            +3
            Quote: Akim
            It's still a money transfer. "

            What is wrong with the soldiers being fed normally and how much does he want? Or in Ukraine there is a shortage of money and it doesn’t give you peace. Our money, our army, our boys.
            1. Akim
              Akim 13 November 2013 12: 23
              -4
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              What is wrong with the soldiers being fed normally and how much does he want?

              Normally, this is correct as much as he wants - medicine.
            2. talSad
              talSad 19 November 2013 15: 53
              0
              Oath words. "I undertake to endure the hardships of the service." Where is this?
      2. Ptah
        Ptah 13 November 2013 11: 47
        +4
        Quote: Akim
        A pile of thrown products.

        Already wrote about pig farms. Or, alternatively, methane production plants.
        Then gas lanterns in the barracks or "tanks on gas".

        "With such and such food -
        How not to have a conversation ... "
        / L. Filatov /
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 13 November 2013 12: 05
          -4
          Quote: Corsair
          I don’t know how it is now, but when I served food waste from ships, private traders (modern farmers) bought it to the general satisfaction of the parties (with

          Quote: Ptah
          Already wrote about pig farms.

          Already recorded several cases of the spread of African swine fever through food waste received from the dining rooms of military units. Is it necessary?
    2. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 13 November 2013 13: 57
      -3
      Quote: Ptah
      A day uneaten where?

      Almost every part had its own subsidiary farm with pigs.
      You do not know?

      What is the problem then? This lisaped has long been invented.
      The truth is now, I do not know.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 13 November 2013 14: 25
        0
        Quote: Aleks tv
        What is the problem then? This lisaped has long been invented.

        The problem is that now you need to hire an outsourcing office. wink
      2. Ptah
        Ptah 13 November 2013 14: 44
        +2
        Quote: Aleks tv
        Almost every part had its own subsidiary farm with pigs.
        You do not know?

        I am naval. From 91 to 93 The food was not bad. Almost "clean" for a year and a half at sea. As far as I know, there were no pigs on board, not even rats. More precisely, it did not breed. And everything that remained from the galley flew straight into the sea. In the roadstead they didn't even reach the water - they raised fat cormorants.
        And the womb of the ocean managed to recycle everything. There was almost no polyethylene and cellophane.
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 13 November 2013 14: 49
          0
          Quote: Ptah
          there were no pigs on board

          I'm talking about SV. It was in the order of things, even schools. At the points - in general, a whole farm with gardens.
          About the humor in the navy - he smiled.
          wink
      3. Levinson 1st
        Levinson 1st 13 November 2013 22: 06
        +7
        I report in a voice: subsidiary plots in the Russian army were liquidated in 2004 by order of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation S. Ivanov
        1. talSad
          talSad 19 November 2013 16: 00
          0
          He would have disposed of the waste by order.
      4. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 13 November 2013 23: 45
        +4
        Quote: Aleks tv
        Almost every part had its own subsidiary farm with pigs.

        Frankly, I did not understand the minusers ...
        Subsistence farms in parts were. Piglets were fed with waste from the dining room.
        I do not say whether it is good or bad.
        But it was. About now - I don’t know. Though zaminusuyte.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 13 November 2013 23: 51
          +1
          Quote: Aleks tv
          Frankly, I did not understand the minusers ...

          We remembered the service at the pigsty ...

          In our school, he was healthy, once a month, one of the platoons of the first year on PCBs went there. Clean. Once our went. You must also put a minus.

          A little less than half a year, but there were greenhouses, cucumbers, green onions, dill.
          1. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv 13 November 2013 23: 59
            0
            Quote: Spade
            Once our went.

            Yeah, pleasant not enough.
            Most often they were arranged near the training ground, training center or ... the so-called "training areas".
            In different parts, their effectiveness was different ...
            There was a good help at the "points".
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 14 November 2013 00: 04
              +1
              Quote: Aleks tv
              Frankly, I did not understand the minusers ...

              Frankly, too. Cons in this thread is somehow strange to all through one, it is, of course, FSU, but interesting. what
              1. Aleks tv
                Aleks tv 14 November 2013 00: 14
                +1
                Quote: Vladimirets
                It is, of course, FSU, but interesting.

                Ага.
            2. Lopatov
              Lopatov 14 November 2013 00: 06
              0
              Where they didn’t steal, there was efficiency. Well, now, why not let the command of the units agree with the private traders: waste in exchange for meat and lard?
              1. talSad
                talSad 19 November 2013 16: 02
                0
                Normally cooked.
            3. ramzes1776
              ramzes1776 14 November 2013 03: 01
              +1
              Quote: Aleks tv
              Most often they were arranged near the training ground, training center or ... the so-called "training areas".
              In different parts, their effectiveness was different ...

              In the Siberian Military District in the early 2000s, after several suicides of soldiers in pigsties, by order of the commander, all pigsties were eliminated.
      5. talSad
        talSad 19 November 2013 15: 58
        0
        Yes its true. Only on the "auxiliary" should a specialist serve. And to lay out the testicles, and pitch it is normal.
  • major071
    major071 13 November 2013 11: 30
    +4
    In, damn it, not the army, but some kind of restaurant. And in the field and in combat conditions, too, a lot of cooks with waiters will run after the soldiers? You get used to the good quickly. No, of course I do not mind that the soldiers would eat well, but you should not forget about the field kitchens.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 13 November 2013 12: 02
      +6
      Quote: major071
      No, of course I do not mind that the soldiers would eat well, but you should not forget about the field kitchens.

      It is this, that is, the shortcomings of outsourcing in combat (I emphasize) conditions that have been shown by recent large-scale exercises and combat readiness checks.

      Feed the soldiers in the barracks - outsourcing is at your service, and long live the beloved cook and beloved field kitchen in the field and combat conditions.
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 13 November 2013 14: 09
        +5
        Quote: Corsair
        and in field and combat conditions - long live the beloved cook and beloved field kitchen.

        There is only one problem - the rear units in the battalions have been reduced, there is no kitchen or cook - the army has a "new" look! Autosourcing prepares in the PPD and is not obliged to carry food to the "fields". And the fighters are sitting, waiting for the buffet ...
        I write what I see in my own brigade, I have not "embellished" anything.
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 13 November 2013 22: 04
          -5
          ... the soldier will be able to choose seasoning in the form of sauce or oil. You can also choose pickled or salted vegetables, several types of cabbage, olives, olives, fresh herbs, bell peppers, radishes, canned beans, green peas, corn and other ingredients ...
          Oh, these tales ... Oh, these storytellers ... They can show on TV, but they can do it ... It’s not talking to turn the bags
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 13 November 2013 22: 35
          -1
          Quote: IRBIS
          There is only one problem - the rear units in the battalions have been reduced, there is no kitchen or cook - the army has a "new" look! Autosourcing prepares in the PPD and is not obliged to carry food to the "fields". And the fighters are sitting, waiting for the buffet ...
          I write what I see in my own brigade, I have not "embellished" anything.

          And this is the problem of foremen and logistics. We have food prepared in the dining room, if they were sitting in the fields, the foreman brought. In aluminum tanks.
        3. talSad
          talSad 19 November 2013 16: 08
          0
          "The strongest survives"?
      2. talSad
        talSad 19 November 2013 16: 06
        0
        Skilful cook!
    2. talSad
      talSad 19 November 2013 16: 05
      0
      Then they say, "No Coca-Cola, no toilet paper."
  • Semurg
    Semurg 13 November 2013 11: 47
    +3
    Yes, remembering the CA with a ten-snout tank of "gas soup", you understand that the current army has gone far in terms of comfort.
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 13 November 2013 14: 12
      +3
      Quote: Semurg
      in terms of comfort, the current army has gone far.

      And if we add here the "quiet hour", the lack of housework and cleaning of the territory, truly "fatherly" care from all kinds of human rights organizations, then we can say - it goes further and further ...
      1. Akim
        Akim 13 November 2013 14: 29
        -5
        Quote: IRBIS
        And if we add "quiet hour" here,

        Quiet hour was in the army until the 68 year, and in schools even longer.
        1. IRBIS
          IRBIS 13 November 2013 14: 34
          +3
          Quote: Akim
          Quiet hour was in the army until the 68 year, and in schools even longer.

          Well, in those years they also liked to play "democracy". However, the army should be slightly different from the kindergarten, don't you think?
          1. Akim
            Akim 13 November 2013 14: 47
            -3
            Quote: IRBIS
            Well, in those years they also liked to play "democracy".

            In those years, they took care of the soldier and appreciated him. This is when Brezhnev, he became at the level of the plinth. Then hazing appeared. The sergeant in respect was no worse than in the American army. Previously, the car went on a flight simply with a driver, without an older one (for example, an unnecessary ensign).
            Of course there was no debelism with the likeness of a buffet. Kharch was worthy and scientifically verified.
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 13 November 2013 22: 38
            -4
            Quote: IRBIS
            Well, in those years they also liked to play "democracy". However, the army should be slightly different from the kindergarten, don't you think?

            If a kindergarten effectively performs a combat mission, then let it be a kindergarten. Discipline and so on are needed for one thing - to increase efficiency, and not for its own sake. I don’t see how the outfit increases the combat effectiveness of a fighter.
            1. talSad
              talSad 19 November 2013 16: 15
              0
              Sorry, for 1 year of service to earn a felony- Good kindergarten.
          3. talSad
            talSad 19 November 2013 16: 12
            0
            Yes it should .. In kindergarten almost the same rights, in the army almost the same duties.
      2. Semurg
        Semurg 13 November 2013 14: 53
        +6
        Quote: IRBIS
        Quote: Semurg
        in terms of comfort, the current army has gone far.

        And if we add here the "quiet hour", the lack of housework and cleaning of the territory, truly "fatherly" care from all kinds of human rights organizations, then we can say - it goes further and further ...

        unpretentiousness in everyday life and in food were pluses of the Russian army, probably this is leaving in our time; maybe in the 21st century this is not a virtue but a disadvantage? difficult to judge, it will only show war, God forbid.
      3. Serg 122
        Serg 122 13 November 2013 22: 15
        -4
        And if we add here the "quiet hour", the lack of housework and cleaning of the territory, truly "fatherly" care from all kinds of human rights organizations, then we can say - it goes further and further ...
        Quiet hour - yes, once a week there is, on Sundays. And then ... "lack" of chores and cleaning of the territory - it will be more correct. Or do you think that the "bee" plows day and night? Alas ... they have a rationed day, they go for parts, they collect papers and that's it. And such a popular pastime as "painting borders"? Or do you think civilians will do this? In our unit, half a platoon follows each such worker - they provide assistance ... And what about combat training? Dapotom, in another life ... am
      4. Pimply
        Pimply 13 November 2013 22: 36
        -2
        Quote: IRBIS
        And if we add here the "quiet hour", the lack of housework and cleaning of the territory, truly "fatherly" care from all kinds of human rights organizations, then we can say - it goes further and further ...

        This is bad? We also had a social worker, for example.
        1. talSad
          talSad 19 November 2013 16: 17
          0
          Social worker is who?
      5. talSad
        talSad 19 November 2013 16: 09
        0
        That's where it goes !!!!!!!
    2. talSad
      talSad 19 November 2013 16: 09
      0
      Very far.
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  • kafa
    kafa 13 November 2013 12: 05
    -2
    comfort is of course good! and if the grandfather who served for 7-8 months will not buzz that he won’t go on the attack because he didn’t get pineapple jam for breakfast repeat
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 13 November 2013 12: 19
      -3
      And if it ends? Then which grandfather will say that he does not recognize the pineapple, he has pimples on his face from him. Give him a strawberry, he got used to it for a year.
      Do not give - it will go to war to the nearest village.
      And on the battery he will write - "To the cellars!"
  • Yura
    Yura 13 November 2013 12: 06
    +6
    "Buffet" in Sweden was called "Russian table", in France the vinaigrette is still called Russian salad, there were times when in Russia for the upper strata of society the Russian language was considered vulgar, for use in its circle. Not the topic of course, just remembered. In general, great news, I served myself, I know how important a normal life is for a soldier. He served in our squadron as a private, under two meters tall and not quite thin, and so the first couple of months of service with us in the unit, he always left the soldiers' mess, waiting for everyone to leave, he swept the remaining barley from the tanks on the table (well, just this giant was enough for one portion at that moment) which some simply did not eat, and some put themselves half a portion or even less, it was visible through the window, but no one ever said a word to the guy, stood smoking, and after leaving no one even indicated that they knew about the reason for the delay. The men are rude in communication with each other, but tact is in our soldier's blood. Not talking about exceptions, they are not worth it. It was in the mid-seventies. Again, probably out of topic.
    1. Akim
      Akim 13 November 2013 12: 13
      0
      Quote: Jura
      He served in our squadron as a private soldier, two meters tall and not quite slender, so for the first couple of months of service in our unit he always left the soldier’s canteen, waiting for everyone to leave, he swept out the remaining pearl barley from the tanks on the table (well, just not one giant was enough for this giant

      They should have given him one and a half servings according to the norms. Anyone above 1,95 should.
      1. Yura
        Yura 13 November 2013 12: 43
        +5
        Immediately somehow in the headquarters they saw that moment was overlooked, after a week and a half they did everything as expected and even more, nine people started to sit at their table for ten and with a portion of ten, but still it was not enough for him to see, and it lasted only a couple of months, then he adapted and one normal portion was enough for him. Although food at that time was not at all varied and often not deliciously cooked, calories were monitored at that time.
        1. Akim
          Akim 13 November 2013 12: 50
          -3
          Quote: Jura
          Immediately somehow in the headquarters I saw that moment was overlooked, they made him one and a half weeks

          Here the fault is completely the platoon commander, not the food service. And constantly there are the first six months, many want.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 13 November 2013 12: 58
            +7
            Quote: Akim
            Here the fault is completely the platoon commander,

            It does not depend on him. This is the work of honey. service
            1. Akim
              Akim 13 November 2013 13: 11
              -3
              Quote: Spade
              This is the work of honey. service

              And who should control all this? All care for the soldier belongs to the platoon-company commander-to-command link. The latter is also a financially responsible person.
              If a force majeure happens to a soldier, they will be asked from them and not from the chief.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 13 November 2013 13: 19
                +7
                Quote: Akim
                And who should control all this?

                Nachmed.
                1. Akim
                  Akim 13 November 2013 13: 49
                  -4
                  Quote: Spade
                  Nachmed.

                  The medical service is always rejuvenated, which is correct. And if it suffers, then in the last turn with regards to such a case. If the paramedic in the medical battalion set such parameters, he issues a sheet to the platoon commander. He writes a request for service attaching this very piece of paper. And off it went. The doctor on duty monitors only dieters in the dining room and sanitation. For the quality and organization of lunch, the chef and the person on duty are responsible.
                  But the direct commander is responsible for the increased rate for a fighter, because it is already laid down in the general distribution.
                  1. Ptah
                    Ptah 13 November 2013 14: 50
                    +6
                    Quote: Akim
                    If the paramedic in the medical battalion set such parameters,

                    And if my "parameters" were 1.92m and 94kg. Nobody will weigh me a lorry anymore. And the norm with a coefficient of 1.25 was not provided. recourse what
                    For that, sometimes you press the grain cutter at the same time both eggs and Adam's apple - immediately "amendments are made".
                    1. Akim
                      Akim 13 November 2013 15: 06
                      -1
                      Quote: Ptah
                      And if my "parameters" were 1.92m and 94kg. Nobody will weigh me a lorry anymore.

                      There was still a definition regarding muscle mass and growth. And if you are a paratrooper or a scout and perform the required number of jumps and dives, you are given one and a half soldering of butter, sugar, eggs, kefir. I won’t remember anything. It is necessary to revolve now in that environment, and not to surf the Internet. fellow
          2. Yura
            Yura 13 November 2013 13: 04
            +2
            Quote: Akim
            And constantly there are the first six months, many want.

            What is true is truth, he himself went through it. By the way, an interesting thing with me was then. I am 1,8m tall. I was rather thin before the army, it’s by nature from me, and now I’m quite thin, I went to serve in the army with a weight of 68 kg, I came home from the army 80 kilograms of strong, then after a few months again 68 kg and I’m still like that.
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 13 November 2013 14: 57
              +2
              Quote: Jura
              I'm pretty skinny right now


              We heard it already -

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              (first track on top) laughing hi
              1. Yura
                Yura 13 November 2013 15: 37
                +1
                Quote: Ptah
                (first track on top)

                good drinks
        2. Vlad_N
          Vlad_N 13 November 2013 17: 36
          +1
          Quote: Akim
          Quote: Jura
          He served in our squadron as a private soldier, two meters tall and not quite slender, so for the first couple of months of service in our unit he always left the soldier’s canteen, waiting for everyone to leave, he swept out the remaining pearl barley from the tanks on the table (well, just not one giant was enough for this giant

          They should have given him one and a half servings according to the norms. Anyone above 1,95 should.

          Wonderful phrase - must ...
  • Mazadrive
    Mazadrive 13 November 2013 12: 06
    -4
    2010-11, ate and maggot soup. Lena Region. "Combat" part. Then the civilian cooks came, they still did not stop stealing.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 November 2013 12: 56
      +6
      These are not maggots, these are larvae. In cereals start up.
      1. Mazadrive
        Mazadrive 13 November 2013 12: 59
        -5
        And also in cabbage.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 13 November 2013 13: 21
          +5
          I did not come across this. Only in cross-section and pasta came across. And in a compote of dried fruits, but there are fruit fly larvae.
          Maybe they added to bigus flour?
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 14 November 2013 06: 53
        +1
        larvae instead of meat? How is a protein substitute? belay
    2. piterkras
      piterkras 13 November 2013 16: 08
      +1
      Outstanding Chess. I always like science fiction like you.
    3. Farik
      Farik 14 November 2013 03: 10
      +1
      Quote: Mazadrive
      2010-11, spruce and soup with maggots.

      This is a military dietary supplement instead of meat and protein. lol
  • predator.3
    predator.3 13 November 2013 12: 13
    -1
    Well, as they say: "Bon appetit!" I am glad that they began to feed the soldiers in this way, in our time (1986-88) we have not even heard of the buffet, although they fed well, did not complain! I remember once the political commander of the regiment arranged an unscheduled check in the canteen and found about 3 kg of "save-free" butter at the azer-butter cutter and forced him to throw it into the pot of porridge and then transfer to a motorized rifle company!
    Until December 1, more 5 700 tea rooms will also be equipped in the soldiers ’barracks and dormitories. To do this, the troops will be supplied more than 100 thousands of sets of tea pairs and about 26 thousands of electric kettles.


    ЛIf only all this would reach the soldiers, and not "stuck" in warehouses and headquarters!
    1. piterkras
      piterkras 13 November 2013 16: 07
      +5
      The soldiers themselves steal only in a way that is bad.
    2. Vlad_N
      Vlad_N 13 November 2013 17: 41
      -3
      Exactly! I think you can have a good "Savings" on the buffet. Nachprod and so on. canteen now have got calculators)))
  • kafa
    kafa 13 November 2013 13: 25
    -5
    not the system but the dream of the rear fellow earlier well root meat stew and right now olives salad bar and all that laughing and hungry Goldden Mlyn we made 6 gravy for you and ate everything before you belaybut we will introduce marbled beef into the diet, you see, you’ll get a simple
  • Stinger
    Stinger 13 November 2013 13: 29
    +5
    It's good. The main thing in defense is grub.
    1. talSad
      talSad 19 November 2013 16: 31
      0
      Yes. The stew which is in accordance with GOST.
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 13 November 2013 14: 52
    +4
    Obviously everywhere it turns out differently, but in our village it was not bad at all compared to the Far Eastern diet. And now they feed even better, but not always a variety of products - they will bring a lot of fish, then meat and this should be quickly put into food because there are not enough places in the refrigerators. And in general, young people are now eating differently; even peasant butter remains not eaten to the joy of the canteens. This is real, not fairy tales.
    1. talSad
      talSad 19 November 2013 16: 32
      0
      Excuse me. Where is your village?
  • morpogr
    morpogr 13 November 2013 14: 55
    +3
    Now the army canteens and teahouses need to assign stars as in restaurants according to the Michelin system.
  • waisson
    waisson 13 November 2013 15: 05
    -2
    buffet - Finnish sauna - two-day service - obligatory vacation - and much more ......... "achievement of jackets" and who will be the Motherland
  • Yarosvet
    Yarosvet 13 November 2013 15: 19
    +1
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    1. piterkras
      piterkras 13 November 2013 16: 05
      +3
      When I served, 2005-2007, they themselves punched a hawk. Someone ate sour bigus, and someone bread from the dining room with sausage and vodka from the store. Moreover hazing essentially did not exist. Caucasians taxied.
  • avg
    avg 13 November 2013 16: 27
    0
    Until December 1, more 5 700 tea rooms will also be equipped in the soldiers ’barracks and dormitories. To do this, the troops will be supplied more than 100 thousands of sets of tea pairs and about 26 thousands of electric kettles.

    Well, for the tea rooms! drinks
    1. kafa
      kafa 13 November 2013 16: 42
      -1
      guess from three times who will have a teahouse
      a gang of ivan petrov and sidorovs will humiliate and tyrannize namralkamazy dystrunitazovye with ishakkutakovym
  • vlbelugin
    vlbelugin 13 November 2013 16: 37
    +3
    Delirium and window dressing. For example, in parts of 1000 people. From the warehouse, according to the layout, they will give out products for only 1000 people. From these products 2 first courses will be prepared (for example, kharcho soup and cabbage soup). If the servicemen arrive by boat in the dining room, the first half (500) will eat kharcho soup, and the second half already has no choice of dishes. Will choke on cabbage soup. So it is with the second course, appetizers. After all, they cannot cook 1000 soups and 1000 cabbage soup per 1000 people.
    Maybe I don’t understand something? Or will food be spent 2-3 times more money?
    Who needs to sell bar counters? laughing
    1. kafa
      kafa 13 November 2013 16: 48
      -4
      not the system, but the back of the fellow back, well, the root meat of the stew and right now the olives salad bar and all that laughing and the hungry old-aged mlyn we made 6 gravy for you and we all gobbled up you ration we will introduce marble beef into the diet you look you will get simple
    2. kafa
      kafa 13 November 2013 17: 01
      -7
      people are you not shell-shocked ?! you don’t arrive under the influence of alcohol or illegal or narcotic substances or you are a tourist from the planet Mars did not serve in the army!? !!
      dude you're a dumb bookkeeper ....... i am sorry for you khan
      1. vlbelugin
        vlbelugin 16 November 2013 10: 46
        +1
        More careful. I did not serve in the army, I lived there for 28 years. Of these, 2 urgent + 4 normal military schools, and not a modern institution. And he drove such idiots into the dining room (responsible, on duty for parts) for a couple of decades.
        Those who invent the army come up with all this bull only in American action movies.
  • Unisonic
    Unisonic 13 November 2013 16: 47
    -3
    Quote: svp67
    Guys who else serves tell how it actually happens ...

    In the Vladimir region, the buffet consists in the fact that a serviceman, having received the main portion of food, a side dish, so to speak, can go to a separate table and choose one of 2-3 types of salad at will. No buffet in the direct sense of the word "restaurant", they say that I want it and eat - no. Moreover, portions are limited in size and quantity per person. The buffet, on the other hand, implies stuffing the stomach to the extent that the stuffer himself needs it.
    1. talSad
      talSad 19 November 2013 16: 37
      0
      Naive guys.
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  • Vlad_N
    Vlad_N 13 November 2013 17: 44
    0
    Intrigued ... tomorrow I will call, maybe they will invite me to dinner)
  • Vipirozhnikow
    Vipirozhnikow 13 November 2013 17: 54
    -2
    Last November-December, he was on an internship as a platoon commander in the Omsbr in Yekaterinburg. So I inform you - fed disgusting! As an officer, I felt sorry for the soldiers. On the other hand, they fed us pretty well at my academy. Not perfect, but the food was cooked humanly, and not as I saw it on the soldiers' tables.
  • vkrav
    vkrav 13 November 2013 18: 04
    -3
    Buffet ... Balls, balls ... When we were snowing the ensign - early. the dining room, he shouted: "Guys, don't hit! I have an order to cook so that the pigs have more left ..." I strongly doubt that the situation has changed since then. Although, if something comes out of this, I am the first for the guys I will be glad.
  • yurii p
    yurii p 13 November 2013 18: 40
    -4
    "By December, the Russian army will go to a buffet" .... for whom did Serdyukov eat at this table with his brothel, and what did it lead to? I'm afraid the "meal" may continue.
  • ando_bor
    ando_bor 13 November 2013 20: 41
    +7
    I don’t know how people represent the army version of the buffet,
    I served DMB 85 first, side dish, salad, bread, gravy were almost always unlimited, if there wasn’t enough on the table you could take supplements, it’s a purely organizational question to make a choice of several dishes for these positions, here’s a buffet, the main meat dish will be equally portioned, maybe a choice.
    The main problem of army nutrition is stupid, soulless cooking, in principle, normal products often just go bad, it was like this in my time, and now with civilian cooks. As an example, the pork carcass with lard but peeled skin was cooked like meat - almost all the lard went back to the pigs, and the salty lard would be gone, some can be put on fry. At the same time, I will say there was practically no theft.
    Pasta and porridge are boiled so it’s often disgusting to look.
    Now the son has served civilians too stupidly cooked. But the guys liked how the military cooks. At the field exits, military cooks were prepared from the supply company in the field kitchens - the products are the same, but the guys put their souls into a completely different thing, maybe because for them it was a kind of holiday too.
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 13 November 2013 20: 44
    0
    For those who did not serve in 19890 -2005 I repeat now the peasant diet is normal - the children will be from the first call, if not some kind of tolerance.
  • Des10
    Des10 13 November 2013 20: 47
    +5
    In the USSR, nutrition was highly scientifically based. Under the norms. supply - varied, nutritious and, after the initial months of urgent service - enough. Plus - regimental tea rooms.
    The mechanism for the implementation of Swiss. tables - based on what norms and regulatory documents? And the teapots in the arrangement - who will be responsible for them (serviceability, cleanliness, safety, etc.)?
    And time for a tea party is a must in the time limits! And at sleep.hour, and at the solarium, and at the pedicure ... that is also hygiene.
    1985-87gg. Baikonur, CA Air Force, lost 5 kg, after half a year - it leveled out, nutrition was normal, on Sundays - cutlets. Then the point - they cooked it themselves. The water is only cold, but my feet were washed in the foot baths, wiped, shaved - no problem.
    Socks were worn and sang faster than footcloths.
    I consider innovations such as tea houses in the company, 3D cinemas, coffee machines and the Swiss table (where is the normative document ?!) as excesses and populist.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 November 2013 20: 50
      +3
      And I consider the barracks redundant. Our ancestors managed for thousands of years only huts.
    2. ando_bor
      ando_bor 13 November 2013 21: 07
      +5
      Teahouses in their mouths - they are in fact and the commanders have no desire to fight them,
      so maybe they portray something for the sake of order, people understand - why should a soldier not drink tea with a "elephant", it's just a legalization of the fact.
      Better than a normal kettle than an incomprehensible boiler. Maybe parcels with gingerbread conscripts to ban?
      1. Des10
        Des10 13 November 2013 21: 24
        -1
        Yes, the foreman had a kettle, sometimes grandfathers and Caucasians rented it. In fact.
        No one else drank tea in the company’s location.
        I would like to hear your opinion about the time for tea drinking, the schedule of the tea house, the number of teapots and utensils in the company.
  • Des10
    Des10 13 November 2013 21: 05
    +1
    Quote: Spade
    And I consider the barracks redundant. Our ancestors managed for thousands of years only huts.

    It is difficult to argue, for you - the experience of millennia.
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 13 November 2013 21: 48
      +1
      Quote: Des10
      It is difficult to argue, for you - the experience of millennia.

      This is if judged by the gun on the avatar?
      Maybe comrade decimus Lopatov had a chance to flop from the Roman onager.
      According to Carthage ....... good
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 13 November 2013 21: 28
    -4
    Yes, the experience of millennia and war triples! Which of the platoons can assemble a troika in a year? And here she begins to take shape.
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 13 November 2013 21: 28
    -4
    Yes, the experience of millennia and war triples! Which of the platoons can assemble a troika in a year? And here she begins to take shape.
  • Siberian
    Siberian 13 November 2013 22: 09
    -1
    At the moment, the troops completed the supply of about 1400 salad bars: the soldier will be able to choose the seasoning in the form of sauce or butter. You can also choose pickled or pickled vegetables, several types of cabbage, olives, olives, fresh greens, bell peppers, radishes, canned beans, green peas, corn and other ingredients.
    Although he served his two years in the USSR, But he wanted again, and until his retirement No.. Honestly, some kind of kindergarten. More diapers need to go there.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 November 2013 23: 02
      +2
      Quote: Siberian
      More diapers need to go there.

      Has already. Pampers for adults. For snipers and other specialties who need it. And why, actually shy? It may be walking under oneself and cool, brutally and masculine, but it is better to do without it.
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 13 November 2013 23: 21
        +2
        Has already. Pampers for adults. For snipers and other specialties who need it. And why, actually shy? It may be walking under oneself and cool, brutally and masculine, but it is better to do without it.
        Well, maybe that's right. All the same, civilization. I'm probably a bit out of date.No jokes.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 13 November 2013 23: 27
          +1
          Now a lot of things that make life easier for a fighter have been invented. For example, if you have normal shoes, then instead of insoles you don’t need to shove women's pads in your shoes so that your foot is not wet.
          Gol is generally cunning for inventions, my fighters shook cotton candy, made an "anthill" cake from rations. But it's better to do without it.
          I remember traveling for a visit, the boychels ordered me ice cream. I brought two boxes. Ossetian, to whom he approached, as he found out where, refused to take money. Paranal directly to the column, in dry ice.
          Sometimes it takes very little to feel like a person
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 13 November 2013 22: 17
    +5
    The Soviet army already had a buffet. wink On ten wink Two tanks, you want the first take, you want the second take. If you want pork, you don’t want to, do not eat.
    We loved both the "old men" and the "rookies" when one warrant officer stepped into the kitchen (alas, I don't remember his last name), though rarely. He drove the cooks out of the kitchen and cooked himself. Yummy. From what is supposed to. Did not steal. I judge by how the portions of meat and fish have grown fat with him.
    I still don't like boiled beets. Almost every day they regaled.
    It was based on potatoes, rice, buckwheat (then there was a shortage in civilian life), less often "soldier's joy". The fuel tankers additionally received a double portion of oil and twice a day a paste for harmfulness (Rocket fuel is the most harmful thing. I still remember the smell of an oxidizer). Of course, there were not enough "young" ones. In the teahouse, they usually took oatmeal cookies, loaves, milk. By the time of demobilization, almost everyone was gaining weight.
    On demobilization, a "young" Ossetian by nationality came to the battery. A rare person. For two months he wore slippers, until the boots were made to order. So, he was immediately "poured" a double portion.
    The days before the demobilization were jokingly considered in centimeters — I ate a herring, two cm closer to the demobilization.
    After the army, I had to get used to the fork and glassware again.
    Of course, it would be great if the army had a varied diet. I'm afraid it will be "as always."
  • pan grizian
    pan grizian 13 November 2013 22: 43
    +4
    I wish all the fighters more hearty and tasty food! And if someone is sorry for the funds and grubs for this, then start with your own family: starve your loved ones so that they do not seem to be serving honey.
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 13 November 2013 22: 52
      +1
      Well done!!! drinks
  • pan grizian
    pan grizian 13 November 2013 22: 43
    +3
    I wish all the fighters more hearty and tasty food! And if someone is sorry for the funds and grubs for this, then start with your own family: starve your loved ones so that they do not seem to be serving honey.
  • Unisonic
    Unisonic 13 November 2013 23: 07
    0
    Quote: Des10
    Yes, the foreman had a kettle, sometimes grandfathers and Caucasians rented it. In fact.
    No one else drank tea in the company’s location.
    I would like to hear your opinion about the time for tea drinking, the schedule of the tea house, the number of teapots and utensils in the company.

    With tea, the problems are geographic, from part to part. You had problems, but 100 kilometers from you, by the way, not only tea, but coffee is poured for free. The Russian army is so controversial.

    But anyway - there was no and no buffet in the army. This is all complete bullshit. Who does not believe - go ahead, visit any motorized rifle unit, for example, in the Vladimir region.
  • Siberian
    Siberian 13 November 2013 23: 15
    0
    Feeding in the army should naturally be normal so that the stomachs do not spoil themselves. These are all the same people, not consumables. They then live on.
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 13 November 2013 23: 51
    +2
    I ask everyone to excuse me - I met a colleague without a leg in the evening - piercing a new prosthesis and repairing the old one is very difficult - as if I had cut off my own leg. Sorry I'm inadequate!
  • ando_bor
    ando_bor 13 November 2013 23: 55
    +2
    Nutrition and now, scientifically sound, but from the same products you can, for example, cook a chic pilaf and a terrible paste, I have seen both.
  • zlyden2013
    zlyden2013 14 November 2013 00: 54
    0
    I remember Kubinka in 95 so the burn begins
  • uzer 13
    uzer 13 14 November 2013 01: 42
    0
    In order for cows to eat less and give more milk, they need to be fed less and milked more.
    1. talSad
      talSad 19 November 2013 16: 46
      0
      Will not work! Or is it some kind of tricky technology?
  • Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer 14 November 2013 05: 40
    0
    All these innovations are good for large parts located in large cities, and in small parts the picture is depressing: all soldier cooks have been removed from the state, outsourcing is involved in food, the commander has practically no opportunity to influence these third-party firms. By order of the Moscow Region, one cook is put on 30 people eating, if less, then get out yourself! So you have to put an untrained soldier on the slab without any skills, and taking into account the fact that the hospital is all located in cities, it’s also without a medical board! Every six months the SES makes terrible decisions, but everyone understands that everything will remain so!
  • Gemma
    Gemma 12 December 2013 14: 07
    0
    It is great that now our guys serving in the ranks of the Russian Army will have the opportunity to eat like at home. After all, for the most part - they are "young, growing organisms", and such concern for their health does honor to the Minister of Defense.
  • Protsyon
    Protsyon 13 December 2013 10: 54
    0
    This was a great decision to give our servants guys a choice, especially since everything is prepared from fresh products, and not from canned food - a big step towards improving the quality of food, because now the soldier does not eat a bunch of preservatives that disrupt the metabolism of his body. And also this measure contributes to the development of private business in our country, because now many commercial organizations are fed with the help of a regular and reliable client - the state and create new jobs, increasing employment.