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The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev 12 November 2013

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As you know, Pan Yanukovych and his Party of Regions were ready to easily and joyfully betray their voters, send Russia away and sign the notorious association with the European Union. However, here the voters, haunted, of course, by Russia and its spies, began to viciously bay. And it is not possible to betray easily and joyfully.

“As a result of this pressure,” the head of the parliamentary faction “regionals” Alexander Efremov complained, “the faction is starting to escalate the situation regarding the adoption of European integration laws, which we used to adopt with greater ease than today.”

Expressing sympathy for Pan Yanukovych and his noble maid of honor, we note that he is not the only one with similar problems. There are some countries and nations where the ease of betrayal is overshadowed by known problems.

November 3 The Serbian population of Kosovo and Metohija disrupted local government elections proclaimed by the NATO members on the Serbian territory of the Republic of Kosovo. Moreover, enormous pressure on Kosovo Serbs to force them to abandon the boycott was exerted by the Serbian authorities, who signed agreements in Brussels in April, opening the way for Serbia to join the European Union in exchange for recognizing Kosovo’s independence. Part of these agreements is the surrender of 70 to thousands of Kosovo Serbs who remained in the province after Albanian ethnic cleansing.

Slavko Stevanovic (Socialist Party of Serbia), chairman of the newly created Assembly of the Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija, says: “People are under terrible pressure from the central Belgrade authorities. We are threatened that if the Serbs fail to vote, then the financing will stop salaries. We are told that if we do not go to the polls, a new ethnic cleansing is possible. "

Despite this, the Serbian enclaves boycotted the elections. In Kosovo Mitrovica, where the 2 percent of the population went to the polls, the Serbian authorities organized provocations when, with the full connivance of the local police and the so-called observers, the “unknown terrorists” smashed ballot boxes and scattered ballots.

The current Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic was elected on promises of rapprochement with Russia, the termination of pro-Western policies and the surrender of Kosovo. Naturally, Kosovo Serbs also voted for him.

However, at the moment when Nikolic won the elections, after the great celebrations on this occasion organized in the north of Kosovo, Nikolic and his party changed their policy towards Kosovo, having made a turn of 180 degrees.

Probably some of the benefits of Serbia from joining the European Union are more obvious than from the stupid Ukrainian "association". However, both are not the price of betrayal. All this has nothing to do with the actual betrayal. The common thing here is a commonplace recruitment - a complex complex of greed, careerism, intimidation and blackmail. Moreover, not even an agency: why should I dirty the filing cabinet? Where is he, dear, going?

Nikolic, unlike Yanukovych, is too early to sympathize. Although - God knows how it will turn around. This is still Serbia, where his predecessor Djindjic was just shot under the fence.
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  1. domokl
    domokl 13 November 2013 09: 53 New
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    It’s tough, but to the point. Betrayal has never gone away with anyone. And even their new masters do not consider traitors for people ... Let’s stop there ... Let the Ukrainians decide ... Their business ...
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 13 November 2013 10: 04 New
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      Quote: domokl
      It’s tough, but to the point. Betrayal has never gone away with anyone. And even their new masters do not consider traitors for people ... Let’s stop there ... Let the Ukrainians decide ... Their business ...

      - Well, what Leontiev likes - no need to translate from Russian into Russian. As it is, it also voices the normal Russian language.
      Although I do not agree with all his conclusions, Leontvea. But this is a matter of argument and taste.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 13 November 2013 10: 41 New
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        Quote: ...
        Nikolic and his party changed the policy towards Kosovo, having made a 180 degree turn.


        A real politician - thinks one thing, says another and does the third
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 13 November 2013 11: 27 New
          +9
          Quote: Vadivak
          A real politician - thinks one thing, says another and does the third

          - but in general this is democracy in its purest form, then, the triumph of which the Anglo-Saxons so passionately dream of together with the Zionists, do I understand correctly, gentlemen Atalef? That is, in Russia, democracy would act like this: "you come to power on a wave of anti-Americanism and the return of wealth previously plundered by red-haired robbers, then you pursue a real policy in the opposite direction, and you expect to leave only by apologizing laughing Well, this is in the future ... Now it is even worse - "held a referendum, got the result on preservation, did the exact opposite - destroyed it, so what other apologies? And the order on the chest of St. Andrew the First-Called! And a magnificent funeral will be provided for him, yes The homeland, with which he played this joke, will also be called the savior of Russia, and they will write this in the annals of Russian history laughing
          1. grandfather
            grandfather 13 November 2013 11: 57 New
            +4
            Are you talking about Gorbachev?
          2. lewerlin53rus
            lewerlin53rus 13 November 2013 14: 42 New
            +6
            Quote: aksakal
            Also, a magnificent funeral will provide him

            And this burial will get the Guinness Book of Records as the largest spittoon in the world
            1. matross
              matross 13 November 2013 15: 21 New
              +3
              Yes, it is already possible in the book of G., as the most hated by his compatriots politician in the world. Maybe at least it will finish him off, or something a little bastard has healed up, looks healthy so pink.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 11: 44 New
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          Quote: Vadivak
          - thinks one thing, says another and does the third

          Betrays everyone!
        3. KEKS44
          KEKS44 13 November 2013 14: 21 New
          +5
          But the 1st, 2nd and 3rd politicians still have to do according to the interests of their country. And to throw people who voted for you under certain slogans and promises is filthy. Especially in Serbia. There, in their own skin, they felt what the USA and Europe are. It is a pity that Russia at that time was below the "plinth". I think that at the present time such bl ... wah would not happen again.
        4. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 13 November 2013 15: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: Vadivak
          A real politician - thinks one thing, says another and does the third


          It also does a real, 100 percent ga.vn.yuk ...
        5. Cherdak
          Cherdak 13 November 2013 23: 46 New
          +1
          Quote: Vadivak
          thinks one thing, says another and does the third



          It would not hurt to deal with the "honorary reindeer herder". As in an old joke:

          Putin calls Abramovich to himself:
          - I know, Roman Arkadievich, that you have made a great contribution to the development of our state. They raised metallurgy, the oil industry, the football industry, and helped the Chukchi people ... I want to award you with a cash prize. Here is the checkbook - now I’ll enter any amount you name. Well, so how?
          Abramovich is silent.
          Vladimir Putin:
          - How many? Fifty? Hundred million?
          Roman Abramovich hesitates awkwardly.
          Putin again calls the amount:
          “Is two hundred and fifty million dollars enough?”
          Abramovich sighs and hesitates, saying:
          - Enough, Vladimir Vladimirovich ... Thank you very much, Vladimir Vladimirovich ...
          Putin smiles softly, writes the amount in the check, signs it, folds the paper in half and sticks it in his pocket in his Abramovich’s jacket. Then he takes him by the elbow and calmly, but with meaning, says:
          - But the rest should be returned, Roman Arkadevich ...

          And then take on Ukrainian colleagues ...
    2. Canep
      Canep 13 November 2013 10: 30 New
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      Quote: domokl
      .Let Ukrainians decide ... Their business ...

      Yanukovych will decide if he signs the paper, then his political career will end there (and with time his physical existence), I doubt that his colleagues from the faction of the regions will agree to this alignment, if they ratify this paper then their career will be a kapets too. They cannot escape a popular uprising. Stone industry drops 20% in 10 months! And this is even before the signing of the EU FTZ agreement, and what will happen after?
      1. domokl
        domokl 13 November 2013 11: 24 New
        +4
        Quote: Canep
        Yanukovych will decide

        Sergey, contradict yourself ...
        Quote: Canep
        I doubt that his colleagues from the faction of the regions will agree to such a situation,

        Everything will be decided ... Both the president and the deputies of the Rada ... It’s not even about who will sign what, but who will share responsibility with Yanukovych for this decision. Whoever chooses will share it ... It seems so logical will be.
        1. MG42
          MG42 13 November 2013 13: 26 New
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          Quote: domokl
          Everything will decide ... Both the president and the deputies of the Rada

          The oligarchic gangway will decide in a narrow circle .. Deputies there do not decide nifig = vote in the PR as the deputy Chechetov’s hand waved at the chess pulled from the AP to ul. Banking ....
          In the video, the deputy votes for himself and for 2 of his colleagues with other people's cards >>
          All this talk about voter pressure is demagoguery people no one asks for a referendum will not ..
    3. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 13 November 2013 11: 46 New
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      ". Let the Ukrainians decide ... Their business .."
      I strongly disagree !!! So you can not give a damn about everything and everyone. Yes, Ukraine is a sovereign state, but we are too close historically to let things take their course. When the Ukrainians understand what they have been dragged into, it may be too late, the complete dependence of the economy on the EU (or lack thereof), the absolute lack of independence of foreign and domestic policy, etc. Imagine the situation, the legislation of Ukraine is forced to adjust to the EU standards. And what's in there? "From now on, it is forbidden to write FATHER and MOTHER in the child's birth certificate, we write parent # 1 and parent # 2." This is a microscopic example; there, in the EU, there are many more wonderful things!
      1. grandfather
        grandfather 13 November 2013 12: 02 New
        +3
        I totally agree.
        1. Aryan
          Aryan 13 November 2013 12: 30 New
          0
          Adnaka apkakal laughing
      2. domokl
        domokl 13 November 2013 13: 24 New
        +4
        Quote: Veteran's grandson
        When the Ukrainians understand what they were drawn into, it may be too late, the economy is completely dependent on the EU (or lack thereof), the absolute lack of independence of foreign, and indeed domestic policy, etc.

        And what? Do you think that this allows us to interfere in the internal politics of an independent state? Close, distant, very distant or close, all these categories are not important in international relations. Not only do you even shout about Ukraine’s hand Moscow? Not only do you already hear voices in the Rada that Russia is to blame for the collapse of the economy? Not only do we become enemies for young Ukrainians?
        No, you want to be respected, so that you can respect yourself ... We laugh at the independence, but it is Ukrainian independence. We don’t like what they do? But they do it in their country and for their children .We condemn their chosen path? And who gave us the right to condemn? As there in the Bible, Do not judge and will not be judged ...
        1. goldfinger
          goldfinger 13 November 2013 14: 39 New
          -8
          Neighbor Belarus. To the very point. Let them decide for themselves. Better a good neighbor than a relative pissed at you.
          And for detente - a joke on the theme of the day.
          * If Putin loves Russia, he is a patriot. If Yanukovych loves Ukraine, he is a terry Bandera nationalist.
          * If Putin says “ho hol” - he kindly ironizes over the representative of the fraternal people. If Yanukovych says “mo.skal” - he reveals this his nationalist, anti-Russian essence.
          * If Putin speaks out, he defends his interests. If Yanukovych speaks out, he works off American money paid to him for anti-Russian purposes.
          * If the Russian president Putin communicates with the American president - he builds relations between the two countries. If the Ukrainian president Yanukovych talks with the American president, they both weave an anti-Russian conspiracy.
          * If Putin speaks Russian, he is just Russian. If the Ukrainian president speaks Ukrainian, he is Petlyura unfinished.
          * If Russian President Putin declares pro-Russian slogans, this is a normal president. If the President of Ukraine Yanukovych declares pro-Ukrainian slogans, he is a pro-American and anti-Russian president.
          * If the Putin government does not agree with the Ukrainian government, it defends national interests. If the Ukrainian government does not agree with the Putin government - finally abarzeli.
          Have a good laugh? In my eyes I see that they laughed!
          1. alexng
            alexng 13 November 2013 15: 19 New
            +5
            Swap parts of the sentences and get the opposite picture. Verbiage. Chatting, not carrying bags. Life is much more difficult than they try to cheat on us. Russia can be understood. After all, no one wants to get another NATO foothold under their belly. And to the whining "foreigners" about hungry Russia, do not forget that Russia is currently the 5th economy in the world. While "near foreign" whiners blindly poked at the bast shoes, the world has changed. So it is not yet known who the bast shoes are the EU or the Russian Federation. In Europe, only Germany and France can compete so far.
          2. Cynic
            Cynic 13 November 2013 17: 48 New
            +2
            Quote: goldfinger
            Let them decide for themselves.


            Of course let them decide for themselves!
            Quote: goldfinger
            Have a good laugh? In my eyes I see that they laughed!

            Above you, here you are not Swamp!
            1. goldfinger
              goldfinger 13 November 2013 23: 21 New
              0
              Quote: Cynic
              Above you, here you are not Swamp!

              Y-yes, judging by the avatar it was necessary to hang out the "Living corner" in another wall newspaper.
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 14 November 2013 10: 41 New
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                Quote: goldfinger
                Y-yes, judging by the avatar it was necessary to hang out the "Living corner" in another wall newspaper.

                If there are no arguments, go to the individual?
                Familiar, very familiar.
                And by the way, your nickname is in honor of the opponent of the famous James, I’m not afraid to even say agent 007 Bond or the less famous punk band?

                Quote: Cynic
                here you are not Bolotnaya!
                1. goldfinger
                  goldfinger 15 November 2013 03: 46 New
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                  Above you, here you are not Swamp!
                  I, like that, also, do not particularly like impolite remarks addressed to me, which are not particularly deserved. The ability to laugh at one’s weaknesses is the quality of a strong, self-confident person. What some people lack. Well, all people are different, and not logs in a woodpile, and that’s good. All the best. And films about the early Bond are zero gut.
                  1. Cynic
                    Cynic 15 November 2013 17: 49 New
                    0
                    Quote: goldfinger
                    films about the early bond - zer gut.

                    Believe the match zer gut!
                    laughing
          3. Botanologist
            Botanologist 13 November 2013 21: 36 New
            +1
            Quote: goldfinger
            * If Russian President Putin declares pro-Russian slogans, this is a normal president. If the President of Ukraine Yanukovych declares pro-Ukrainian slogans, he is a pro-American and anti-Russian president.


            And what are the pro-Ukrainian slogans? Joining the EU? Or is gas expensive?

            Quote: goldfinger
            In my eyes I see that they laughed!


            Laugh at your jokes? Tell me in what place?

            But in essence - we don’t care what slogans Yanukovych says and what interests he defends from the rostrum. The problem is actions. And it is very clearly visible that Yanukovych’s actions are not independent. They took him for ... offshore accounts, and can’t utter a laugh. What does Ukraine’s interests have to do with it? What did you see them in?
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 13 November 2013 17: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: domokl
          As there in the Bible, Do not judge and will not be judged ...

          Ahh, I’m thinking about what we are talking about, but it turns out we are judging Ukraine!
          Good position offered
      3. alone
        alone 13 November 2013 21: 05 New
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        Quote: Veteran's grandson
        Yes, Ukraine is a sovereign state,


        and everything else that you say already loses its meaning. It will not help to influence them in one way or another. We have to agree with the decision of Ukraine. Whether we want it or not.
        1. alexng
          alexng 13 November 2013 23: 40 New
          0
          They just try to save Her (Ukraine) from the noose somehow. Well, you have to get into the loop so insistently. request
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 13 November 2013 13: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      Betrayal has not yet gotten away with anyone. And even their new masters do not consider traitors for people ... Let’s stop there ... Let the Ukrainians decide ... Their business ...

      Ha! Ukrainians will not decide anything, because it was never their business.
      Well, if they give out oranges, beautiful posters to everyone, they’ll steal the brains of some kind of nationalist x ... th, then Ukrainians will definitely choose what they don’t need, like last time wassat
      The options may be different, and the choice is always paid for an independent ..
    5. vostok1982
      vostok1982 13 November 2013 14: 07 New
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      And how many times have we decided? Kuchma, Yanukovych - were elected because they promised to make Russian state and integrate with Russia. Yushchenko promised something else, but he was not elected at all, he was simply appointed, contrary to the election results.
      And what is the result? No matter how pro-Russian a candidate is before the election, after the election he abruptly changes flags.
      And what to do? Maybe it's time for Russia to restore order in illegally alienated Russian lands? We will support with joy. You have 1000 times more opportunities to influence the situation than ours.
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 13 November 2013 14: 41 New
        +8
        Quote: vostok1982
        And what to do? Maybe it's time for Russia to restore order in illegally alienated Russian lands? We will support with joy. You have 1000 times more opportunities to influence the situation than ours.

        Duc and we're only for! Only it is much easier to separate than to reconnect. The states and geyropa will fall on the Russian Federation. All are horrified by the thought of the revival of the EMPIRE! Already in the language, this word gets stuck. What is the empire ?? Just one big Slavonic (basically) country, which was treacherously torn apart by probable "partners" and traitors! am
    6. goldfinger
      goldfinger 13 November 2013 15: 05 New
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      .Let Ukrainians decide ... Their business ...

      Neighbor Belarus. All spears are broken, all curses are said, all the gingerbread cookies are shown and all the whips are demonstrated. After all, the shield of Ukraine will not disappear! Kiev will not disappear - the mother of Russian cities. Everything will settle down. In addition, millions of Slavs are mixed throughout the territory from Brest to Anadyr. Will live!
      And in memory of the southern Slavic brothers.

      Pi..ec, the umbilical cord has dried
      What is the use of breeding la-la.
      Farewell to Ukraine!
      Take a bow from M.O.Skal.

      When you stayed with me
      I wouldn’t have a soul in you,
      You’d be like rolling cheese in butter,
      Now, go dancing.

      Now, insidious sister,
      Nibble wretched bastards.
      No more gas syringe
      And its oil needle.

      And there is only fat
      Yes moonshine from buryak.
      To whom did you challenge
      Seeking to get off the leash?

      Straight-haired, barefoot,
      Shake in the cold now
      Jealous throwing your gaze
      On the lacquered door.

      Stomp at the west entrance
      With forever outstretched hand.
      Why do you need your freedom?
      ... And in general, why the hell?
    7. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 13 November 2013 15: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      Betrayal has not yet gotten away with anyone.


      Yes. In the future, good always wins. Unfortunately, a lot of time passes until the victory takes place ...
    8. 3.7.964
      3.7.964 13 November 2013 16: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      ... Let the Ukrainians decide ... Their business ...

      I do not think that the Ukrainians decide something. Yes, and Yanukovosch doesn’t seem to solve either. According to the leak from the administration, the professor (two ff is not a mistake, as the person wrote about himself in the questionnaire, the whole Ukraine laughed) received a call from Barroso. For tricks with Europe, it was promised to put an eye on the priest specifically, right up to the no-fly zone ... Now there is a gathering of the main ukroludes near Kiev. the main question is: "What to do next?" There is a professional, Akhmetov, Pinchuk, Kolomoich, Yaroslavsky, Borya-koles, some old Iizer, Poroshenko and for some reason Yushchenko. Firtash didn't come, which is strange. Mostly Akhmetov and the old Azerbaijani have the floor. They are inclined to sign it, otherwise they can arrange Lazarenka for everyone, and for some people and Gaddafi ... Such are the things guys.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 13 November 2013 19: 22 New
        +4
        Quote: 3.7.964
        there was a call from Barroso. For tricks with Europe, it was promised to put an eye on the priest specifically, right up to the no-fly zone ... Now there is a gathering of the main ukroludes near Kiev. the main question is: "What to do next?" There is a professional, Akhmetov, Pinchuk, Kolomoich, Yaroslavsky, Borya-koleso, some old Iizer, Poroshenko and for some reason Yushchenko. Firtash didn't come, which is strange. Mostly Akhmetov and the old Azerbaijani have the floor. They bow that it is necessary to sign, otherwise they can arrange Lazarenka for everyone, and for some people and Gaddafi ... Such are the things guys.

        Even if your infa is only 50% true, the real CRISIS OF UKRAINIAN AUTHORITY has come. In any situation of Ukrainian statehood came a furry animal. The Ukrainian people will pay for everything.
    9. orkibotu
      orkibotu 14 November 2013 00: 08 New
      -1
      Well, we decide. who betrayed? they sold the contract with the fleet, they extended it, they more fraternally said Vova we’ll review the gas agreement and then we will blow gas and horseradish we will revise the agreement. and they immediately behaved honestly so already in the Customs Union
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    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 13 November 2013 09: 59 New
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      That's the point for the people, these "people's choices" decide.
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 13 November 2013 11: 25 New
        +4
        An indispensable condition for signing an agreement with the EU is to release Julia Choto to be treated in Europe.
        Julia is free, Yanek will go to Turma, followed by his immediate environment.
        In short, Janek's visit to VVP- "what is the boss to do? The mustache is gone, we will sit down ...
      2. grandfather
        grandfather 13 November 2013 12: 03 New
        +1
        In Russia as well.
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      4. Migari
        Migari 13 November 2013 12: 18 New
        +4
        He betrayed the people who believed him and voted.
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  3. svp67
    svp67 13 November 2013 09: 58 New
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    Not when I did not think that Yanukovych would turn out to be such a "foolish thing ...". It is necessary to SO "substitute" your country and people ... Now the choice in Ukraine is no longer between the EU and the CU, but between the collapse in the "banking" or "industrial" spheres. Since the main part of Ukrainian banks is very tightly "tied" with European and American, and industry - with Russia ... So they choose to "fall into which pit" now ... It is a pity for the people of Ukraine, as well as a pity for us, because under the existing government it will also "hit" us. Although Russia has a chance to start developing those industries that we are "losing" in Ukraine, and people will be in business and the industry will no longer be dependent. And so - we are preparing for a "crisis" ...
    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 13 November 2013 10: 02 New
      +4
      Yes, we have a chance. But in Ukraine, on the contrary, all chances disappear if they enter the EU.
    2. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 13 November 2013 10: 08 New
      +5
      . So they choose to "which pit" now "fall"-they themselves dug a pit (cesspool), but what simple people suffer is, to put it mildly, not an order, but after all we are not asked what they should do in the Kremlin .... Democracy, it’s a bastard.
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 13 November 2013 14: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Valery Neonov
        US, too, is not asked what they should do in the Kremlin .... Democracy, its bastard will grow up.

        Well, you are a merry fellow! And when were we asked at all ?? wassat
        Tokma in the election. And it’s right, for whom he voted, so you are bent! Everyone must do their job. The cook has already ruled the country ...
  4. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 13 November 2013 10: 04 New
    +6
    Quote: domokl
    Betrayal has never gone away with anyone. And traitors are not considered people even their new masters ..

    Well, for some reason, what about Kadyrov, who is he ... after all, he fought the first Chechen war against Russia, and after that he sharply "dyed" in chocolate. hi
    1. domokl
      domokl 13 November 2013 10: 31 New
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      Quote: Valery Neonov
      Well, for some reason, what about Kadyrov, who is he ... after all, he fought the first Chechen war against Russia, and after that he sharply "dyed" in chocolate. hi

      Unsuccessful example. You cited it simply because you don’t know the situation in the Caucasus in general and in Chechnya, in particular ...
      Only a small part of the idealists fought for independence, the rest for specific money, for controlling their teip over a district or even a republic. Kadyrov’s clan, or rather his father, was the first to realize that the people were beginning to see clearly and that the war would soon have to end. federal government, allowed to occupy precisely this clan a dominant position in the republic.
      So Kadyrov, the younger one, did not betray anyone. He was and remains the head of the Kadyrov clan, the head of the main clan of Chechnya. Because now in Chechnya they are so tough on cracking down on militants.
      1. Valery Neonov
        Valery Neonov 13 November 2013 10: 37 New
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        May be; the secrets of the "Madrid court" are unknown to me, but this is your personal, SUBJECTIVE opinion and nothing more. hi
      2. Grandson of Veteran
        Grandson of Veteran 13 November 2013 11: 25 New
        +2
        ". Because now in Chechnya they deal so harshly with militants."
        And with those who dare to oppose the Kadyrov clan.
        1. domokl
          domokl 13 November 2013 13: 28 New
          +4
          Quote: Veteran's grandson
          And with those who dare to oppose the Kadyrov clan.

          Namely ... The patrimonial, clan management system is traditional for Chechnya and is unbreakable for now ... At least it suits everyone.
      3. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 13 November 2013 14: 36 New
        +1
        although he is also involved in dirty business ..
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 13 November 2013 14: 08 New
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      Quote: Valery Neonov
      Well, for some reason, what about Kadyrov, who is he ... after all, he fought the first Chechen war against Russia, and after that he sharply "dyed" in chocolate.

      One significant clarification. Kadyrov Sr., the kingdom of heaven to him (the former "comrades-in-arms" and blew it up). And the younger then still walked under the table ... with a pistol (sorry) lol
  5. Sterlya
    Sterlya 13 November 2013 10: 15 New
    +9
    Betrayed once. will always betray.
    It is truth. which is not worth checking
  6. Krasnoarmeec
    Krasnoarmeec 13 November 2013 10: 15 New
    +6
    So the time has come to recognize the independence of Transnistria !!!!
    1. not good
      not good 13 November 2013 11: 46 New
      +4
      Then immediately the independence of the Crimea.
  7. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 13 November 2013 10: 18 New
    +1
    How tired of fuss about this notorious association))) No Leontiev is right, there are a lot of sensible conclusions in his conclusions. But it’s just enough discussion of this topic) Maybe the Slavs can figure it out for themselves? or think a thought, they themselves will understand it)))
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 13 November 2013 14: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
      Maybe let the Slavs brothers sort it out themselves? They have their own head, but why should they eat porridge or think a thought, they will understand it themselves)))

      There is no hope for that. They have an elite like that of calves, the beef was beckoned with a fatter piece, and there the nose turns. And behind it is the Ukrainian people. So the target audience here is not Ukrainians, but the ruling Ukrainian elite. It’s time we already understand this guys!
  8. Begemot
    Begemot 13 November 2013 10: 23 New
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    Ukraine is the border region of Russia, not in the sense of state or administrative borders, but in the sense of the contact of civilizations. The section runs through the territory of present-day Ukraine: the outskirts of Catholic Western civilization are in contact with the Russian Orthodox. The struggle for these territories has been going on for centuries with varying success, so there have never been non-puppet, independent, established states there. They always, if they existed, only as vassals. Now the personal gain of the lords is associated with the West, so they rushed there. History shows that it will not bring anything good to the people.
  9. Corsair
    Corsair 13 November 2013 10: 26 New
    +5
    Quote from the article:
    Nikolic, unlike Yanukovych, is too early to sympathize. Although - God knows how it will turn around. This is still Serbia, where his predecessor Djindjic was just shot under the fence.

    Ukraine differs from Serbia in many ways, but it is also purposefully "led" to this state.
    A little more, and Yanukovych can also end his life under the fence ...
    1. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 13 November 2013 10: 44 New
      +3
      That’s why he ran to Moscow. That’s a fence on the horizon with a wire on top.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 13 November 2013 14: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: Corsair
      A little more, and Yanukovych can also end his life under the fence ...

      All chances are there.
      Phrase about the fate of Djindjic - key.
  10. major071
    major071 13 November 2013 10: 34 New
    +5
    Corsair (1)
    Ukraine differs from Serbia in many ways, but it is also purposefully "led" to this state.
    A little more, and Yanukovych can also end his life under the fence ...

    That's just interesting, under whose?
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 13 November 2013 11: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: major071
      That's just interesting, under whose?

      It is quite possible under the prison, or maybe "crashed" under the walls of the residence ...
      Why guess something, own fate, the clan and Ukraine are in his hands.
      Yanukovych at the crossroads ...
  11. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 13 November 2013 10: 42 New
    +1
    it’s already impossible to betray easily and joyfully.

    Russia, the Slav brothers are not the same and we are tired of all this fuss ...
  12. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 13 November 2013 10: 51 New
    -24 qualifying.
    I don’t understand one thing, where does the policy for MILITARY REVIEW ??? This is not even military news. request
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 13 November 2013 11: 23 New
      +6
      Quote: And Us Rat
      I don’t understand one thing, where does the policy for MILITARY REVIEW ??? This is not even military news.

      And everything is simply explained, the site is MILITARY-POLITICAL ...
      In how fellow , and for you this is news?
      1. Very old
        Very old 13 November 2013 11: 32 New
        +4
        Everything related to the security of my country concerns a military site. And all of us.
        So answer him, Corsair.
        Political and Economic - Well, very military topics
    2. V. Salama
      V. Salama 13 November 2013 11: 54 New
      +8
      Quote: And Us Rat
      I don’t understand one thing, where does the policy for MILITARY REVIEW ???

      Because the army outside of politics is not an army, but a gang of mercenaries. The defender of his country is always in politics either as a subject or as a means. The essence of politics is management, and war is "the continuation of politics by other means." They cannot fight successfully against a strong adversary, without knowing the tasks of management and reasons for making decisions in Russia. Although there are always exceptions and nuances - a conscript soldier (Chechnya) is asked: "What are you fighting for?" Responsible: "For the comrades." This is due to youth and this is a sign of only one quality - stamina, which is not enough to win. We would not have won the Great Patriotic War.
  13. makarov
    makarov 13 November 2013 11: 20 New
    +2
    So I got a new direction and a legalized license. "service". According to Yanukovych, it turns out like this, if you are a dissenter and do not agree with his criminal activities, then: - "However, here the voters, incited, naturally, by Russia and its spies, began to spite maliciously ..."
  14. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 13 November 2013 11: 33 New
    +5
    And why is our prez better than the Serbian traitor? 300 Russian people lived in Chechnya, all of them ethnic groups cleaned up with the use of genocide. Kadyrov finished this ethnic cleansing, Putin gave him the Star of a Hero. Exactly for this? For the genocide of Russian people?
    1. holderrr
      holderrr 13 November 2013 19: 56 New
      +1
      The national wealth of Russia. Officially: $ 4,0 trillion In fact (according to the Research Institute of Statistics of the Goskomstat of Russia): $ 40 trillion. The underestimation of 10 times, Smolin comments, the authorities need in order to sell the remnants of the former public property to the oligarchs and foreigners for nothing, and at the same time to hammer the population that we live no worse than we work.

      The amount of intellectual capital. Officially: $ 1,5 trillion In fact: $ 25 trillion. Understatement of Russia's intellectual capital by almost 17 times, according to Smolin, helps the authorities to justify a course on copying the worst examples of foreign education, as well as importing foreign scientists for crazy money with the meager support of their own.

      Share of investments in% of GDP. Officially: 18,5%. In fact: 12,2%. Overstating one and a half times investment in the economy creates a picture of false well-being, continues Smolin. In fact, the country is dominated by the principle of "bought-sold-stolen".

      GDP growth rates. Officially: 6%. In fact: 4%. By “inflating” the GDP growth rate by one and a half times, the government is trying to convince society that its announced doubling in 2003-2010. could have taken place if not for the global crisis. In fact, Smolin notes, for 2003-2008. the economy grew by only a quarter, and in the crisis of 2009 we were the record holders of the fall among the GXNUMX countries! As for the GDP, the deputy remarks sarcastically, it seems that they are not going to double, but even fivefold, but not in terms of gross domestic product, but Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin: two presidential terms, one prime and again two presidential terms, equal in duration to the previous three .
  15. 128mgb
    128mgb 13 November 2013 11: 39 New
    +2
    There was information from "unnamed sources" that Ukraine is postponing the signing of an association agreement due to "the lack of EU guarantees regarding compensation for losses in case of a decrease in trade with Russia." That's it - the money will go down!
  16. Bogranz
    Bogranz 13 November 2013 11: 40 New
    +4
    Sometimes one gets the impression that the "game of European integration" was part of a campaign of pressure on the Russian Federation in order to obtain economic preferences. And it seems that the players themselves did not imagine how far these manipulations with the concept of the "European vector" would go, they did not really think about the content of the Treaty about the association, its applications, and how big the stakes and cost of leaving such a game will be.
    1. yur
      yur 13 November 2013 21: 51 New
      0
      What can I say, played too much!
  17. Migari
    Migari 13 November 2013 12: 08 New
    20
    Well what can I say, JUDAH.
  18. an_ursus
    an_ursus 13 November 2013 12: 24 New
    13
    Yanukovych studied with another philanthropist ..
  19. shitovmg
    shitovmg 13 November 2013 12: 26 New
    +3
    We are approaching the finals. I believe that, if not reason, then the feeling of self-preservation in (in) Ukraine should outweigh ..!
  20. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 13 November 2013 12: 55 New
    +3
    Yes, brothers ... How much Russian blood has been shed, that for Bulgarians, then for Serbs ... Bulgaria is in NATO and in the EU, happily friends against Russian brothers, crying that they will not be the "Trojan horse" of Russians in the EU, that they European of all Europeans http://www.blackseanews.net/read/72907 Reminds nothing? The ancient Ukrainian, probably the Bulgarians descended from them ...
    Serbs go there ... Ukr_y rush ... All their own, but Little Russians, so in general we ... And all with the hands of the "elite".
    Have the liberals really shit so badly that only protégés of the “partners” become “elites” among us and among our brothers and there is nothing we can do about it? angry
  21. Shdo
    Shdo 13 November 2013 13: 09 New
    0
    At 55-58 seconds there is a visualization of what Ukraine will do in the EU. the division of labor has not been canceled. plumbers here from Poland say good. medium monitor)
  22. MG42
    MG42 13 November 2013 13: 20 New
    +6
    Yanukovych does not have any ideology, only a mercantile interest = the instinct of self-preservation - thoughts of how not to please for a third term in prison, for this he is ready to make any choice ... It's sad that such little people run the country .. >>
  23. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 13 November 2013 13: 54 New
    +1
    These are the results of, so to speak, "peaceful settlements". You need to know the enemy by sight, or even better, by name. Yanyk and Ukraine do not know. Unfortunately, in the Russian Federation, people are strenuously instilled that there are no enemies, all types of brothers and other tyr-pyry.
  24. morpogr
    morpogr 13 November 2013 14: 13 New
    +2
    The phrase is more relevant than ever: Russia has only two allies, the army and navy.
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 13 November 2013 14: 32 New
      0
      Quote: morpogr
      The phrase is more relevant than ever: Russia has only two allies, the army and navy.

      In general, these are military tools (structures) and attributes of the state. And our allies are Belarus and Kazakhstan, among others. hi
  25. ObnaPur
    ObnaPur 13 November 2013 15: 26 New
    0
    Is there a chtol boom in the background?
  26. ObnaPur
    ObnaPur 13 November 2013 15: 26 New
    0
    Is there a chtol boom in the background?
  27. Humpty
    Humpty 13 November 2013 15: 48 New
    0
    A thief on the throne is easily blackmailed in order to make anti-people decisions.
  28. mmmakm
    mmmakm 13 November 2013 16: 04 New
    0
    And it seems to me that this trick with the EU will come out to the "professor" Yanukovych as a huge saltpeter.
  29. And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 13 November 2013 16: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Corsair
    Quote: And Us Rat
    I don’t understand one thing, where does the policy for MILITARY REVIEW ??? This is not even military news.

    And everything is simply explained, the site is MILITARY-POLITICAL ...
    In how fellow , and for you this is news?


    Oh, what a pleasure everyone poured and zinnususali lol I didn’t delve honestly, I drew attention to the site as a source of various interesting information on weapons, armies, military history, I’ve been reading it for a year now, and I registered from boredom, as the flu caught and was lying around at home laughing
    1. ultra
      ultra 13 November 2013 16: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: And Us Rat
      I didn’t delve honestly

      I paid for it! laughing PS Although I personally did not minus.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 13 November 2013 19: 24 New
      +3
      Quote: And Us Rat
      Oh, what a pleasure everyone poured and zinnususali

      Do not bother with the notes ... laughing
      Only the most flawed "weave" in the negative at the first opportunity, thus wanting to prove their importance wassat
  30. voliador
    voliador 13 November 2013 18: 03 New
    0
    Yanuchok has merged their Ukraine for a long time and, I think, received quite a lot for it. So he has nowhere to go.
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  32. Sour
    Sour 13 November 2013 18: 08 New
    +3
    I agree with Leontyev that the association agreement with the EU is stupid for Ukraine. It gives absolutely nothing and looks like some kind of purely ritual step. Like, to spite Motskaly. Although they (for the most part) just do not care. By signing this agreement, Ukraine does not get closer to Europe, and it is moving away from Russia. But this is a problem of the Ukrainian people. And not at all the problem of Europe or Russia.
  33. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 13 November 2013 18: 52 New
    0
    Quote: Sour
    I agree with Leontyev that the association agreement with the EU is stupid for Ukraine. It gives absolutely nothing and looks like some kind of purely ritual step. Like, to spite Motskaly. Although they (for the most part) just do not care. By signing this agreement, Ukraine does not get closer to Europe, and it is moving away from Russia. But this is a problem of the Ukrainian people. And not at all the problem of Europe or Russia.

    Normally wrote .. I agree!
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  35. Ulus5
    Ulus5 13 November 2013 20: 04 New
    0
    This is still Serbia, where his predecessor Djindjic was simply shot under a fence.

    This is the fate of all traitors.
  36. PValery53
    PValery53 13 November 2013 23: 04 New
    0
    Our Master the other day threw 750 million greens into a leaky basin in vain. - Like, - "Come back, I'll forgive everything!? .." - And they all like a break, and without return. We have so many funds where it would be useful.
  37. baku1999
    baku1999 13 November 2013 23: 52 New
    0
    FREEDOM OF CHOICE, SERBOV-KOSOVARAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  38. Jet blackbird
    Jet blackbird 14 November 2013 02: 43 New
    -2
    ....)) After reading the comments, I was once again convinced of the correctness of Ukraine's European choice and I believe that if Yanukovych fails to sign an "association" in Vilnius, then his "career" will quickly slide into oblivion (rather, it would). The overwhelming majority of the people of Ukraine hates this criminal power and, again, in the majority, stands for the "European vector." Russia, in the person of Putin - acts in relation to Ukraine - very dirty. All these artificial "barriers" and "bans" on Ukrainian goods have a very negative impact on relations between our countries. Such a short-sighted "policy" of the Kremlin can only "repel".
    But the main goal of "rapprochement with Europe" is not "betrayal" with all sorts of "confrontations" but the desire to learn to live in a civilized manner, without corruption, without lawlessness, without rudeness ...
    And at the expense of the "general decline in production": It is better to survive once the "complete fall" of such production, the products that even Russia buys "every other time" ... Manufacturers will have the opportunity to enter other sales markets, and at the same time they will have to quality "pull up" - the standards are different .... Where will they take the money for all this ?? - in Europe, there are low bank interest ... There is always a way out)) and thinking people also have a spare ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 14 November 2013 06: 40 New
      0
      Quote: Jet blackbird
      But the main goal of "rapprochement with Europe" is not "betrayal" with all sorts of "confrontations" but the desire to learn to live in a civilized manner, without corruption, without lawlessness, without rudeness ...

      In Europe there is no corruption, rudeness and lawlessness laughing Beautiful vetrin in news and films and nothing more.
      Quote: Jet blackbird
      It is better to survive once the "complete decline" of such production, the products which - even Russia, buys "every other time" ... Manufacturers will have the opportunity to enter other sales markets and at the same time will have to "tighten" the quality too

      How, can a bankrupt enterprise improve quality? How will it be able to market and compete with powerful European manufacturers? To do this, you need to produce not only high-quality goods, but they must be better and most importantly cheaper, only that way! -But this is not possible.
      Quote: Jet blackbird
      ..Where will they take all this money ?? - in Europe, there are low bank interest

      Who told you that they will be given to you? Ukraine is all in loans and debts, build a budget from whether they will give a loan or not. Who will give you 160 billion euros (according to Azarov) You are either very naive or very ****** hi
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 14 November 2013 10: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Jet blackbird
      . There is always a way out)) but people who think have a spare ...

      Have you prepared a reserve airfield for yourself ?!
      Then really
      Quote: Jet blackbird
      It is better to survive once the "complete decline" of such production, the products of which even Russia buys "every other time" ...

      Only here are your words
      Quote: Jet blackbird
      All these artificial "barriers" and "bans" on Ukrainian goods

      You already speak in one stitch, and then there prohibit Here and so do not take .
      lol