Steadfast Jazz-2013. NATO before the roll to the east

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Steadfast Jazz-2013. NATO before the roll to the east

9 November 2013 of the year in Poland, the Baltic States and in the Baltic Sea area ended the largest military exercises of the North Atlantic bloc during the 65 years of the North Atlantic bloc, the Steadfast Jazz-2013 military exercises. The 7 000 troops from 28 NATO member states, as well as Sweden, Finland and Ukraine, which was symbolically represented by a company of the Crimean marines, took part in the exercise.

NATO's attention to the Baltic geopolitical region is increasing. Here lie the borders of the Union State of Russia and Belarus, the most important sea and pipeline routes, power lines, here is a whole necklace of nuclear power plants. The withdrawal of US and NATO troops from Afghanistan increases the capabilities of the North Atlantic allies to increase their presence in Eastern Europe, particularly in the Baltic. NATO does not relax its pressure in eastern Europe. Many recent events directly indicate that the United States and NATO continue to consider Russia and allied Belarus as one of the main geopolitical opponents.

NATO Secretary General A. Fogh Rasmussen spoke vaguely about the tasks of Steadfast Jazz-2013: “The purpose of these exercises is to make sure that our rapid reaction forces are ready to protect any ally, take action in any area and deal with any threat.” According to the scenario of the ended exercises, a certain “neighboring state” presented Estonia with territorial claims and, after refusing to satisfy them, committed direct military aggression against Estonia. In contrast to the more cautious Western Europeans, Latvian Defense Minister A.Pabrik found it necessary to emphasize in an interview with Reuters, which “neighboring state” is this: “Russia has increased its pressure in the Baltic region over the past five years. Steadfast Jazz teachings are important to us as the first teachings where we learn to protect our territory. ”

A special feature of the Steadfast Jazz-2013 was the testing of the protection of electronic communications and computer networks, as well as the conduct of massive cyber attacks. Back in 2008, the Joint Center for Excellence in NATO Cyber ​​Defense was established in Estonia. Specialists of the center took the initiative to equate an attack on the network resources of NATO or one of the members of the bloc to direct aggression. In this case, NATO must respond with a coordinated cyber attack, disabling the enemy’s military control systems, blocking its state institutions, banks, hacking Internet sites, disrupting communications, life support systems and industry, shutting off electricity and water supply. In fact, we are talking about the complete disruption of life on the attacked territory.

NATO’s training attacks on Ukraine were conducted (despite the participation in the maneuvers of the company of the Ukrainian marines). According to the teachings legend, these attacks were a response to the recent actions of Ukrainian hackers: the hackers from the Anonymous group hacked several Russian and Polish sites, the website of the European Investment Bank and the Estonian Ministry of Defense, protesting against Ukraine’s participation in any military blocs.

In connection with the promotion of NATO’s area of ​​responsibility to the east, plans are being revised to deploy forces in the territories of NATO member countries bordering the Union State of Russia and Belarus. The United States is planning to transfer a significant part of its troops from Italy and Germany to Poland and the Baltic States in the near future, for which modernization of airfields, land transport network and seaports in the Baltic is in full swing. The rebuilt Polish ports of Swinoujscie and Gdynia can already receive American and British landing and transport ships. According to NATO standards, seven Polish airfields have been re-equipped, where all types of aircraft can now land. The Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonian airfields at the Zokniai, Lielvarde and Emari air bases were modernized.

The military activity of NATO at the borders of Russia and Belarus far exceeds the scale of the defensive measures of the Union State. Only in 2013, in addition to Steadfast Jazz-2013, several NATO exercises took place in the Baltic region - BALTOPS, Saber Strike, Baltic Eye, Kevadtorm.

A series of NATO exercises was conducted during 2012 in Poland - "Little Needles - 2012", "Anaconda - 2012", "Challenge Teams - 2012", "Puma - 2012", in which besides the Polish military personnel took part the US military contingents , Germany, Denmark and Canada. From 22 to 26 September, the offensive exercises of Dragon-13 took place in Poland.

From 20 to 25 on April, Lithuanian ground forces maneuvers were held in Panevezys. Then three more stages of these teachings followed. The first stage included the organization of camouflage, protection and defense of objects, the second - the organization of joint defense areas of responsibility, the third - the training of personnel, the fourth - integrated tactical exercises involving the assigned support and support units.

From August 25 to September 5, the NATO Air Force Brillant Arrow drills were conducted in Norway, during which maneuvering aerial battles and bombing of ground targets were practiced. In the second half of September, the naval component of these exercises was practiced on Brilliant Mariner maneuvers; tested the skills of organizing a naval blockade of Russia and, above all, the most vulnerable in this regard, the Kaliningrad region.

The main training ground for the Steadfast Jazz-2013 exercises in Poland was prepared and deployed in the Dravsko-Pomorsky region by Polish and French military personnel. In Poland, during the maneuvers, the headquarters of the French rapid reaction force, which is permanently stationed in Lille, is also located. The Joint Command Headquarters operated at the Adazi test site in Latvia. Three more operational control centers were connected to the exercise - the Air Force headquarters in the German Ramstein, the headquarters of the special operations forces in the Latvian Pabreda, and the headquarters of the Navy in the Italian Toronto.

The main activities of the ground forces and the Air Force took place in Poland. Flying aviation began on November 5 from the air base in Poznan (Poland). Pilots from Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary made two flights a day. Flight control was carried out from the Air Force Center in Warsaw. Refueling in the air was provided by the French tankers KC-135. Germany tested the operations of its S-160 transport aircraft and Avax reconnaissance aircraft.

Before the start of the naval exercises as part of the Steadfast Jazz-2013 in the Polish port of Gdynia 27 in October, a meeting of representatives of the Navy of the NATO member states took place on board the ship De Ruyter. The commander of the naval component of the exercises was a Pole M. Koschelski. In total, 17 naval officers from Poland, 3 from Italy and 3 from Latvia were included in the headquarters.

In addition to the flagship De Ruyter, Polish warships (frigate Gen. T.Kosciuszko, submarine Sokol, anti-submarine helicopters Mi-14PL, deck helicopter SH-2G) and the Italian destroyer Duilio took part in the exercises on the Baltic Sea. A total of 15 ships from NATO's 8 countries participated in the exercise, as well as a special NATO mine action defense team from six ships of the Navy of Poland, Belgium, Estonia, Germany, the Netherlands and Norway, reinforced by minesweepers Czajka (Poland) and Ledbury (United Kingdom).

The main task of this naval grouping was to use the minefields to lock up the Russian Baltic Fleet in the Gulf of Finland and Kaliningrad and to ensure the unhindered approach of the US and British landing ships through the Danish straits. Before the start of Steadfast Jazz-2013, NATO strategists carefully studied the experience of the Great Patriotic War, when Germany blocked the Soviet Baltic fleet in a similar way.

The most active part in the maneuvers was France, which sent 1 200 to its servicemen (11-I airborne brigade and 2-th dragoon regiment).

The Steadfast Jazz-2013 exercises led to a further increase in tensions in the Baltic region. Russian Deputy Minister of Defense A.Antonov said that from these NATO maneuvers "breathes the spirit of the cold war." But what the Italian Corriere della Sera wrote about these exercises in the issue of 4 in November 2013 of the year: “This is about the largest joint exercises in this region for the entire post-war history. ... This fact cannot please the Kremlin in any way. ... The timing of the exercises was not accidentally chosen: NATO leaves Afghanistan, the Alliance abandoned the old Atlantic strategy and, perhaps, finds another, at the eastern borders of Europe - where the controversial gas pipelines, the Russians Tanks, arranging unpleasant surprises in Georgia, and besides, Ukraine found itself in a difficult situation, as it asks to accept it in the EU. ... A hypothetical invader is not called, but everyone understands that his name is Vladimir and he lives in the Kremlin. Most recently, he introduced trade sanctions against Lithuania, just before the European summit in Vilnius, where Ukraine will take a decisive step towards the EU. ”

The alliance’s Internet resources directly indicate that after the withdrawal of Western Coalition forces from Afghanistan, NATO’s plans will focus on Eastern Europe, primarily Poland and the Baltic States ... It is assumed that 9 divisions of the United States, Great Britain and Germany. At the same time, the United States and Great Britain intend to increase their Baltic presence fleet. An interdepartmental committee has been set up in Lithuania to receive new NATO units. At the airbase in the city of Lask (Poland), American F-16 aircraft are being relocated from the Aviano airbase (Italy). In Poland, 5 advanced fuels and lubricants bases and 6 NATO early warning radar points have been created. In 2012, the NATO Energy Security Center appeared in Vilnius.

Considering all this, it is no longer possible to take seriously the statements of that kind, which, they say, the existence of NATO in modern conditions "does not make any sense." The meaning of the existence of NATO is to continue the expansion of this military bloc to the east. The strategic concept of such an expansion was adopted by NATO in the 1999 year, on the days of the bombing of Yugoslavia, and no one in Brussels canceled its associated plans.
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  1. pawel1961
    +13
    14 November 2013 09: 01
    Well, where is friendship, partnership and all in that spirit. there is no friendship; there are only interests and they all have their own.
    1. +2
      14 November 2013 12: 53
      The picture looks like Polish goblins.
      1. -1
        14 November 2013 17: 56
        Canep
        Yes, these are Poles.
        1. -5
          14 November 2013 17: 59
          Black ass not visible? Not yours.
          1. +2
            14 November 2013 22: 45
            Lopatov

            Shovels, I answered you. I quote:

            Lopatov (1) RU Today, 19:01 ↑
            Are you sure you have the right to grunt, black-headed?
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            smile (2) RU Today, 21: 12 ↑
            Lopatov
            Wow! I'm amazed. :)))
            Went away, Nibelung unfinished. And if you are going to answer, first grunt the request for permission to contact me. Clear? Is free.
        2. +3
          14 November 2013 18: 28
          Quote: smile
          Canep
          Yes, these are Poles.


          Not! This is the Germans what there seemed to be 55 people there.
          The Poles have different camouflage, different unloading, different weapons, and so on ...

          The poles look like this:

          clickable bully hi
          1. +2
            14 November 2013 18: 50
            Quote: Karlsonn
            Not! These are the Germans; there seemed to be 55 people there.


            what although FIGs you will understand whether reservists, or don’t understand who ... what
            1. +2
              14 November 2013 20: 25
              Quote: Karlsonn
              Quote: Karlsonn
              Not! These are the Germans; there seemed to be 55 people there.


              what although FIGs you will understand whether reservists, or don’t understand who ... what

              Yes, these are the Germans, in the foreground stands with a walkie-talkie and binoculars Oberfeldwebel, on the left shoulder a shoulder strap is visible.
              1. +2
                14 November 2013 20: 31
                Quote: bistrov.
                Yes, these are the Germans, in the foreground stands with a walkie-talkie and binoculars Oberfeldwebel, on the left shoulder a shoulder strap is visible.


                Yes, I immediately began to sin on the Germans, and then I thought:
                - what are they with the G3 standing, if now they are running with the G36?
                1. Alex 241
                  +1
                  14 November 2013 20: 33
                  Here is the source: .http: //wek.com.ua/article/26394/
            2. Gladiatir-zlo
              +3
              14 November 2013 21: 41
              NATO’s training attacks on Ukraine were conducted (despite the participation in the maneuvers of the company of the Ukrainian marines). According to the teachings legend, these attacks were a response to the recent actions of Ukrainian hackers: the hackers from the Anonymous group hacked several Russian and Polish sites, the website of the European Investment Bank and the Estonian Ministry of Defense, protesting against Ukraine’s participation in any military blocs.

              These are those who are not ready to go to war against the state because of cyber attacks on the site, this is an example of philanthropy and tolerance. But is it really idiocy, the site will be restored in a couple of days, and the broken lady and factories will be rebuilt the same in a couple of days?
              1. Akim
                +1
                14 November 2013 21: 50
                Quote: Gladiatir-Zlo
                These are those who are not ready to go to war against the state because of cyber attacks on the site, this is an example of humanity and tolerance.

                The counter-attack was on the websites of Ukraine and Lithuania - to assess the degree of information security.
                Do they know how to use other sources?
            3. +1
              14 November 2013 22: 50
              Karlsonn
              First, I wrote. that you are probably right, and then looked at the close-up photo and made sure you are right for sure. I made a mistake - on the left shoulder of one of the guys - a patch with the flag of Germany. I raise it, paws and sprinkle ash on my head. :))) +++
          2. +1
            14 November 2013 19: 08
            And these seem to have pouches for clips of the Mosin rifle, from the first world left.
            1. +1
              14 November 2013 19: 18
              Quote: Canep
              And these seem to have pouches for clips of the Mosin rifle, from the first world left.


              This is a GRANITE PACK, here is a slightly more advanced variation:
          3. +2
            14 November 2013 19: 32
            Quote: Karlsonn
            No! These are the Germans, what seems to be 55 people there.

            Yes, they are Germans. And there was not enough money for more. Other "brothers" really need it.
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      2. +1
        14 November 2013 20: 19
        Quote: Canep
        It looks like Polish goblins.

        And armed with FRGshnyh rifles G-3 model 1959, pay attention. As far as I know, these rifles in Germany have long been withdrawn from service.
    2. Walker1975
      +2
      14 November 2013 16: 27
      But haven’t there been large-scale exercises of the Russian Federation and Belarus recently? Almost with a nuclear strike on Warsaw?
    3. Gladiatir-zlo
      +3
      14 November 2013 21: 38
      In contrast to the more cautious Western Europeans, the Minister of Defense of Latvia A. Pabrikas found it necessary to emphasize in an interview with Reuters what kind of "neighboring state" is in question: "Russia has increased its pressure in the Baltic region over the past five years. The teachings of Steadfast Jazz are important to us as the first teachings where we learn to protect our territory. ”

      Again, the whole of Europe is being assembled, against Russia, they can't sit at home with Che freaks. Their Arab-Wahhabi gangster rabble has gone wild in their streets, but they are still stumbling somewhere. Yes, with such a rear, and victory will not help. Fuck them and not the implementation of the slogan "Everything for the front, everything for victory." What are they thinking :-)?
    4. 0
      8 December 2013 00: 35
      What "partnership and friendship"? Open your eyes, with the collapse of the USSR. Will you sit in pink glasses for a long time and think about some kind of friendship? When is NATO directly attacking you? Are you completely stoned? Russia, right now to increase, rearm, build up, rebuild
  2. ed65b
    +10
    14 November 2013 09: 47
    On Inosmi, November 7, there is a wonderful article from a Polish journalist about these teachings, I advise you to read, I’ll laugh all day.
    1. ded
      +4
      14 November 2013 13: 14
      Yes. The article on Inosmi is gorgeous!

      Here is the link: http://www.inosmi.ru/world/20131107/214539245.html
      1. +6
        14 November 2013 16: 49
        The article is brilliance. But it is necessary to withdraw from the conventional arms treaty. The faster, the better. Moral law is. The West and NATO have not fulfilled a single promise in exchange for the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact.
        1. +5
          14 November 2013 17: 59
          Quote: Stinger
          It is necessary to withdraw from the conventional arms treaty. The faster, the better. Moral law is. The West and NATO have not fulfilled a single promise in exchange for the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact.

          I agree.
          This should be done in silence, without noise. Let the "neighbors" have a headache ...
  3. +4
    14 November 2013 09: 58
    Here again, Ukraine is implicated in cases against Russia, so returning to the already printed who is going to fight and against whom. Russia with such a clear hint against Ukraine does not conduct exercises.
  4. ed65b
    +3
    14 November 2013 10: 02
    Here's the link. http://www.inosmi.ru/world/20131107/214539245.html
    1. Akim
      -2
      14 November 2013 10: 24
      Quote: ed65b
      Here is the link

      That would be the author of fiction to write, not similar articles. If you throw out all this romantic garbage, that is, there are reasonable conclusions.
      1. +3
        14 November 2013 12: 12
        Quote: Akim
        Quote: ed65b
        Here is the link

        That would be the author of fiction to write, not similar articles. If you throw out all this romantic garbage, that is, there are reasonable conclusions.


        He writes for what they dance. When they will pay for fiction as for a political nonsense, then here is ..
        1. Akim
          +1
          14 November 2013 12: 20
          Quote: Geisenberg
          When they will pay for fiction as for a political nonsense, then here is ..

          It is truth too. But the style is so artistic. Not neatly somehow.
      2. +2
        14 November 2013 12: 55
        [quote = Akim] [quote = ed65b] Here is the link [/ quote]
        That would be the author of fiction to write, not similar articles. If you throw out all this romantic garbage, that is, there are reasonable conclusions - what are these? belay how the Americans marked the toilets with their flags, wink that everyone would see, exceptional people crap here !!!! wassat
        1. Akim
          +3
          14 November 2013 13: 09
          Quote: datur
          reasonable conclusions there - what are these? to

          Well, for example, that the Leopard 2A4 is better in operation than the Polish T-72M. The truth in the same operation is an expensive dog. But they are silent about this.
    2. +1
      14 November 2013 20: 21
      I read, laughed to tears, I think this author is just a talent in writing humorous stories! Petrosyan is resting!
  5. +2
    14 November 2013 10: 14
    Oh, how scary! We are afraid, we are afraid!
    1. +2
      14 November 2013 15: 12
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      Oh, how scary! We are afraid, we are afraid!


      We’re afraid like that. laughing

      clickable.
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          1. 0
            14 November 2013 19: 20
            Lopatov

            Greetings! hi

            Why are you so angry today? belay
            1. 0
              14 November 2013 19: 27
              Because I'm a Pole. Well, or Western Belarus. The devil knows how nationalities are distributed in Black Russia.
              1. +1
                14 November 2013 20: 35
                Quote: Spade
                Because I'm a Pole. Well, or Western Belarus. The devil knows how nationalities are distributed in Black Russia.


                Say thank you that the Finno-Ugrians have not yet recorded wink
                why Black Russia, and not Chervona?
                1. +1
                  14 November 2013 20: 46
                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  thank you that the Finno-Ugric people have not yet recorded

                  And I do not mind, let them write

                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  why Black Russia, and not Chervona?

                  Black Russia is Grodno, Chervonaia are enemies.
                  1. +1
                    14 November 2013 21: 44
                    Quote: Spade
                    And I do not mind, let them write


                    and I have the same opinion, the main thing is that they do not pop into the stove! Yes

                    Quote: Spade
                    Black Russia is Grodno, Chervonaia are enemies.


                    as with us - the Slavs are all confused. recourse
                    1. +1
                      14 November 2013 21: 54
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      as with us - the Slavs are all confused.

                      And we are. let the enemies be surprised. But sometimes we can still get together. And the boy from Black Russia sometimes pulls out the boy with Chervona from under the fire ... Breaking teeth, behind the collar, spitting out crumbs ... Anything like that ...
                2. +1
                  14 November 2013 20: 53

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  6. Sirozha
    +3
    14 November 2013 10: 28
    Hmm, in the photo there are fighters from G3, although they are trumpeting everywhere that the G36 is the main weapon of the German infantry. And here we are worried that our army is running around with "outdated" AKs!
    And as for the MP company in the exercises, so we sent them to intelligence, so to speak, from the inside laughing
    1. +2
      14 November 2013 18: 13
      Sirozha
      These are the Poles.

      And about your intelligence ... well, God forbid.
      I believe that many Ukrainians are just as unpleasant about the participation of Ukrainian troops in working out the actions of NATO against us, as well as ourselves.
      1. +1
        14 November 2013 19: 09
        Quote: smile
        Sirozha
        These are the Poles.


        This is definitely not the Poles.
        Poles are like this:
        1. Alex 241
          +1
          14 November 2013 19: 22
          Comrad greetings, these are the "Bundes", the fighter in the second row has a chevron on the right sleeve.http: //wek.com.ua/article/26394/
          1. +2
            14 November 2013 20: 37
            Quote: Alex 241
            Comrad greetings, these are the "Bundes", the fighter in the second row has a chevron on the right sleeve.http: //wek.com.ua/article/26394/


            Greetings buddy !!! drinks

            I was introduced into a stupor by the third gekhi and the incomprehensible (not German) surname of the fighter on the right feel, and winding electrical tape stores, instead of using clips, well, something like this:
          2. Akim
            +1
            14 November 2013 20: 45
            Quote: Alex 241
            Comrad greetings, these are the "Bundes", the fighter in the second row has a chevron on the right sleeve.

            In general, this picture caused me the effect of deja vu, I saw a photograph of an "evil NATO member" in my childhood in the magazine "Foreign Military Review".
            1. sasska
              +4
              15 November 2013 01: 24
              but these "evil NATO members" from Estonia laughing
              1. Akim
                0
                15 November 2013 07: 22
                Quote: sasska
                "evil NATO members" from Estonia

                Well, I'm not afraid of these.
                1. sasska
                  +1
                  15 November 2013 08: 18
                  but in vain!
                  "a thousand cyclists and half a ship in the port"
        2. 0
          14 November 2013 22: 58
          Karlsonn
          Hello! Yes, I was wrong. Up there already repented. :)))
    2. 0
      14 November 2013 18: 55
      Quote: Sirozha
      Hmm, the photo shows fighters with the G3


      More than 70 countries have "Heckler Koch" G3 (Heckler & Koch G3) in service, in particular, the Germans shoved G3 from warehouses into service with the armies of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia.


      Quote: Sirozha
      although everywhere they blow, that the G36 is the main weapon of the infantry of the FRG.


      It is, from 1995 year.
      1. 0
        14 November 2013 19: 06
        Once again, welcome.
        Personally, I’m interested in something else. Our LISPs led the process of combat training, how much do they meet international standards?
        Well, there are a couple of questions in the form, probably in a personal. Can? Just don’t talk about the thigh
        1. 0
          14 November 2013 19: 23
          Quote: Spade
          Once again, welcome.
          Personally, I’m interested in something else. Our LISPs led the process of combat training, how much do they meet international standards?


          I won’t lie:
          - This question is most interesting for me; I personally do not have full information. crying

          Quote: Spade
          Well, there are a couple of questions on the form, probably in PM. Can?


          Of course drinks than I can - I will help. soldier

          Quote: Spade
          Just don’t talk about the thigh


          Understood nothing what
          1. 0
            14 November 2013 19: 27
            Quote: Karlsonn
            Just don’t talk about the thigh
            Understood nothing

            And a goat on a cart wink
            1. +1
              14 November 2013 20: 42
              Quote: stroitel
              And a goat on a cart


              II-kkk ...
  7. Akim
    +10
    14 November 2013 10: 39
    LONG-MOMENTS (SINGLE-REAR). laughing
    1. +2
      14 November 2013 15: 17
      Quote: Akim
      LONG-MOMENTS (SINGLE-REAR).


      laughing

      Let me subscribe!
  8. +3
    14 November 2013 11: 36
    <<< The raison d'être of NATO is to continue the expansion of this military bloc to the east. The strategic concept of such an expansion was adopted by NATO in 1999, during the bombing of Yugoslavia, and no one in Brussels canceled the related plans. >>>
    A wise Russian proverb correctly says - how many wolf (NATO) does not feed (agreements on "partnership", cooperation, "reset", etc.) he looks into the forest (at Russia)! So Russia must be ready to SHOOT wolves!
    1. 0
      8 December 2013 00: 48
      Exactly. I don’t understand what it takes to be stupid and an idiot so that you can believe their nonsense, destroy the USSR, disarm it. Thank God they stopped in time. Russia immediately, right now, build up, increase. Rearm, retrain the army. reinforce the Collective Security Treaty Organization, KSOR. Nuclear weapons — strengthen, rearm, build up. Make new and better weapons, develop, study and supply the army with new weapons of any direction and improve the old ones. Only so. With wolves, live like a wolf. Enough to get on the noodles, it’s time to wake up to the Russian bear cub. We don’t attack ourselves. But we will destroy anyone who attacks us and our allies. We will destroy anyone who attacks Russia and its allies. We will not give back either a flower, a leaflet, or a millimeter. Glory to Russia, the Empire of Good! God is with us!
  9. +2
    14 November 2013 11: 58
    In this connection, the missile defense commission was correctly disbanded ... verbiage, not confirmed by deeds, was not welcomed anywhere else .. but here the blind person can see that there is a buildup of military potential in the Baltic and across our eastern border ..
  10. andru_007
    +1
    14 November 2013 13: 23
    7 fighters in 000 countries - conditionally 30 people each ... And are these the largest exercises?
    Of course, there was a lot of criticism about the Russian teachings, about the suddenness and transfer of l / s to the Far East, but it’s ridiculous to even compare these two events ...
    Europe was exhausted without the Americans come in and take Europeans with your bare hands ...
    Strange teachings whom they wanted to surprise? request
    1. smprofi
      +1
      14 November 2013 14: 15
      Quote: andru_007
      Strange teachings whom they wanted to surprise?

      they just did the exercises.
      and
      During the NATO exercises, Steadfast Jazz 2013, the number of cyber attacks against the Baltic states has risen sharply, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Latvia reports.

      On the hacked sites attacked, there are signs that the sites were terminated due to their non-compliance with the requirements of the NATO Cybersecurity Center. The message mentioned the ongoing military exercises Steadfast Jazz 2013 and the logo of the Alliance.

      In addition, fake e-mails were sent to a number of specialists from defense and other institutions of the Baltic states and Poland, which indicate that violations of the organization’s information security organization were detected during a check by the NATO Cybersecurity Center. It is also indicated that more detailed information can be obtained directly from the NATO Cybersecurity Center.

      According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Estonia, the website of the Ministry of Defense of Estonia and Kaiteseliite was subjected to a cyber attack the day before the start of the exercises of the Steadfast Jazzi. A group of hackers Anonymous Ukraine claimed responsibility for this attack.

      By the way, according to the scenario of the Steadfast Jazz 2013 exercises, the military had to repel a massive blow to the network infrastructure of command and control from cyberspace. However, cyber attacks were planned virtual, not real.

      Well, the fact that there are similar articles ... journalists also need to.
      and play on the nerves of the patriots and do demagogy - why not?
    2. alex popov
      +4
      14 November 2013 20: 04
      Yeah, only 19 countries, 6000 in total, 3 of them are in the field, the rest are at headquarters. Of these, 000 (225) amerikosov, 100 halos and 1000 Germans, the rest of the 44 field ones are different riffraff + marines from the Crimea. Moreover, according to the Western press, the Polish hospitality and hospitality led to the fact that at the end of the exercises the "allies" almost fought for toilets and showers, considering that 3000 and 3 to one are too little, the French were offended by the loss of several secret electronic devices fenced off with barbed wire and armed guards, and you stopped attending the "Polish public catering") In general, the alliance is the strongest.) With such allies and enemies are not needed)
  11. igor_ua.
    0
    14 November 2013 13: 42
    Grew up. The army has passed and is going through a tough school in the Caucasus. But these clowns are mummers when and with whom the last time they fought at the same level? Mass bombing in Yugoslavia does not count.
    1. 0
      14 November 2013 13: 55
      igor_ua UA Today "And these clowns are mummers .."
      Are you talking about the Ukrainian (89 marines) participants in the exercise "SJ-13"? .. And what brought them there?
      1. Akim
        0
        14 November 2013 13: 58
        Quote: 222222
        And what brought them there?

        There is such a unit UkrPolbat.
        1. +2
          14 November 2013 14: 13
          Akim UA Today, 13: 58 ↑
          "There is such a subdivision of UkrPolbat."
          and so am I about the "neutral and non-bloc status of Ukraine ..."
          1. Akim
            0
            14 November 2013 14: 34
            Quote: 222222
            "Ukraine's neutral and non-bloc status ..."

            Do not confuse these two concepts. Ukraine can cooperate with partner countries. Either Russia, or Poland. There is no word IBO.
            1. 0
              14 November 2013 20: 46
              Akim UA Today, 14: 34 ↑
              http://нато.рф/ru/news/20131114/08274.html
              1. Akim
                0
                14 November 2013 21: 03
                Quote: 222222
                http://нато.рф/ru/news/20131114/08274.html

                According to the article. What actions does NATO draw Ukraine into? The fact that our military doctors work in Afghanistan? The Republic of Macedonia with a population and area less than the Odessa region sent 120 people to the exercises. But for some reason they were not indicated in that article.
                1. 0
                  14 November 2013 21: 12
                  Akim UA Today, 21: 03 ↑
                  The fact that our military. ""
                  in accordance with the Program ...
                  http://www.president.gov.ua/ru/documents/15898.html
                  1. Akim
                    0
                    14 November 2013 21: 27
                    Quote: 222222
                    in accordance with the Program ...

                    NATO is not just one military machine. And Russia also cooperates with them in the field of security.
                    PS I forgot to add to the past. A frigate in the framework of the NATO program patrols the waters of the Horn of Africa.
  12. smprofi
    0
    14 November 2013 13: 54
    Russian Deputy Minister of Defense A. Antonov said that NATO’s “maneuvering spirit of the Cold War” from these maneuvers.

    let's just say ... it blows from this and similar articles.
    moreover, if during the Cold War everything was clear and logical: here is the enemy and we are fighting with him. now a return to such statements and writing such articles solely as demagogy and an attempt to play on the strings of the soul of an ordinary man in the street.
    Does NATA conduct exercises?
    Only in 2013, in addition to Steadfast Jazz-2013, several NATO exercises took place in the Baltic region at once - BALTOPS, Saber Strike, Baltic Eye, Kevadtorm.

    oh wow! and what is forgotten about the fact that
    The Russia-NATO Council held several anti-terrorism exercises in the skies over Poland, Russia and Turkey in September with the participation of fighter jets, military personnel and command centers from the Arctic to the Black Sea.

    or completely forgotten from recent
    Russian and Italian warships entered the Ionian Sea to conduct the naval phase of the Ionieks-2013 exercises

    and similar joint exercises of Russia and NATa for a year typed so not enough fingers to bend when counting!

    NAT threatens Russia ?! But why then Russia is conducting joint projects for the construction of submarines with Italy, armored vehicles in France. the Turks announced their desire to update the air defense system, Russia immediately proposed the S-300.
    Well, about the friendship between NATO and Russia in Afghanistan, it’s not interesting to talk about it ...
    1. +1
      14 November 2013 14: 48
      smprofi UA Today, 13:54 PM
      "such statements and writing such articles solely as demagoguery and an attempt to play on the strings of the soul .."
      Yes, it’s not a shit .. Information wars, also wars and the peace and war period .. And the goal is to beat them in the brain imperceptibly and painfully ..

      andru_007 SU Today, 13:23
      Whom did you want to surprise with strange teachings? "..
      1. the exercise aimed to show the solidarity and determination of NATO countries to solve one of the problems that arose on its flanks .. well, and to check the readiness of the NATO response forces NRF-14
      2. Verification and development of war plans In NATO and the United States, a series of exercises are carried out, separated in time, place, goals, objectives, participants and issues being worked out ...
      3. In the period from Jazz-13, a series of exercises were held, including on the use of nuclear weapons and the conduct of nuclear wars.
      For example:
      and. 22OCT13 - 31OCT13
      STEADFAST NOON 2013 (SFNN13)
      Aviano, Italy
      NATO cross servicing exercise to train crews in loading, unloading and employing B61 ​​tactical nuclear weapons. A NATO Evaluation (Cold Igloo) is scheduled during this exercise ... exercise on the Aviano Aviano on the "game" with tactical nuclear bombs B-61 .. loading. unloading and use of B-61 TNW and checking NATO "Cold Igloo" ...
      b. Exercise of the Strategic Command of the US Armed Forces on "Global Thunder-14" to develop one of the options for conducting nuclear war and cyber operations
      And you say that "There are only girls in jazz" ....
      1. smprofi
        +1
        14 November 2013 15: 11
        Quote: 222222
        Information wars are also wars in both the peaceful and war periods .. And the goal is to beat them in the brain imperceptibly and painfully ..

        Yes? and who beats whom?
        and when?
        when does Russia cooperate with NATO or when do you write similar articles?
        please clarify.
  13. +1
    14 November 2013 14: 45
    Judging by the quantity and quality of NATO exercises, the entire population of the Union State for some time should turn into Chinese and build the Great Wall of China from bricks laughing but they won’t wait, what’s the maximum that NATO’s will wait for is Russian tanks in their capitals! soldier
    PS We know that NATO is always the maximum result, so they won’t let us down. drinks .
  14. Peaceful military
    +6
    14 November 2013 15: 20
    I have to add (I don’t understand why this is omitted again, as in the previous article about these exercises) that these were not NATO exercises, these were the exercises of NATO and the Nordic countries (Sweden, Finland). Now there is a powerful pressure on these countries in order to drag them into NATO.
    Part of the scenario was an attempt to quickly liberate the Estonian island of Hiiumaa, captured, attention, not by terrorists, but by a neighboring state. The failure of this expedition was recognized, due to the impossibility of organizing a quick transfer of the necessary forces and means to the theater of Hiiumaa. Conclusions ... there are two of them.
    1. There must be a NATO expeditionary force in the territory of this theater of operations;
    2. Sweden and Finland should become part of the forces responsible for this theater.
    According to the scenario, for fools, Father Hiiumaa was captured by the neighboring state ... Finland ... This is to the word of Rasmussen that this is not against Russia. Which neighboring state is Estonia not friendly with and where can aggression be expected from? Only Russia.
    I posted about this on "Military Materials": http://warfiles.ru/42171-scenariy-nato-estoniya-prosit-pomoschi-gosudarstvo-pod-

    nazvaniem-botniya-okkupirovalo-hiyumaa-foto-i-video-delfi.html # comment
  15. andru_007
    +1
    14 November 2013 18: 46
    Quote: 222222
    1. The teaching was intended to show the solidarity and determination of NATO countries

    The United States grunts all solidarity into dust - it pleases laughing
    Quote: 222222
    2. Verification and development of war plans In NATO and the United States, a series of exercises are carried out, separated in time, place, goals, objectives, participants and issues being worked out.

    weak interaction on average 250 people from each country ..

    Quote: Peaceful military
    According to the scenario, for fools, Father Hiiumaa was captured by the neighboring state ... Finland ... This is to the word of Rasmussen that this is not against Russia. Which neighboring state is Estonia not friendly with and where can aggression be expected from? Only Russia

    according to the scale of the exercises of Russia and this booth, if the neighboring state moves to Estonia, it will stop for a smoke break somewhere in the region of Belgium ...
  16. +1
    14 November 2013 19: 17
    A quick answer? Help an ally?! Yes! Yes! Remember! Poland 39))) Estonians can sleep peacefully laughing
  17. Akim
    +1
    14 November 2013 19: 43
    Here is poverty. When these bєter were repaired in Nikolaev. they asked at least to put stabilizers, the MO did not give money. So they shoot from short stops and aim handwheels.
  18. +2
    14 November 2013 21: 17
    Worried Russians wonder what is more dangerous for them: an attack by the Poles or an attack by the Swedes.
    1. +5
      14 November 2013 21: 52
      Quote: uzer 13
      Worried Russians wonder what is more dangerous for them: an attack by the Poles or an attack by the Swedes.


      in a whisper

      - the worst are the Estonians ....
  19. +1
    14 November 2013 21: 46
    NATO troops were given a new make-up - blue! The worst killer force!
  20. helg717
    0
    14 November 2013 21: 48
    In this case, NATO must respond with a coordinated cyber attack, incapacitating ...., blocking its government agencies, banks, hacking Internet sites, disrupting communications, life support systems and industry, cutting off electricity and water supply. In fact, we are talking about a complete disorganization of life in the attacked territory
    And this is already heh heh ... addition, a war crime
  21. Peaceful military
    0
    15 November 2013 09: 41
    "These were maneuvers according to the scenario of the Baltic defense. According to the scenario of the exercises, a specific attack was directed against Estonia. Additional NATO forces arrived, eliminated the enemy in the occupied territory and returned the country's sovereignty." http://rus.delfi.ee/daily/estonia/na-ucheniyah-steadfast-jazz-byl-razygran-realn
    yj-scenarij-otrazheniya-napadeniya-na-strany-baltii.d? id = 67096646
  22. PPP
    PPP
    +1
    15 November 2013 18: 59
    No words, clowns.

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