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“Power is doing what 5-10 needed to do years ago. This is good, but it's too late. ”

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Vladimir Putin held a meeting on the use of the National Wealth Fund. According to the media, we are talking about the financing of large projects, but the president stressed that it would be wrong to completely spend the reserve money. In other words, the idea of ​​a cautious investment is proposed. The topic of renewing the infrastructure of our economy has been raised many times, but usually it did not go beyond expert assessments. Now the question has reached the highest state level.


A well-known analyst Mikhail Leontyev commented on KM.RU the idea of ​​using accumulated financial reserves for investments in the real economy.

Infrastructure projects are much better than nothing.

For almost ten years we have been discussing this issue. When we got a “jug”, when it became relevant, we started talking on this topic. A focused, built-in re-industrialization launch policy, a state program, in my opinion, would be more effective than the rather chaotic costs of infrastructure projects. However, infrastructure projects are much better than nothing, and the least dumb projects have been selected as projects. Serious doubts about the economic adequacy suggests the project of the Moscow-Kazan road, but everything else is quite normal.

A typical motivation for the idea of ​​spending reserves: since the world economy is in a deep crisis, it is much more risky to invest in currency and financial assets than to spend it on infrastructure projects. There is a high probability that they will disappear. This is what we talked about all the time, but the problem is that it’s too late again! When you have a decent market, then you can attract investment (internal and external), and you can use the cumulative effect. But now it almost will not. This is the first. Second: consistently developing macroeconomic policies have made the cumulative effects of infrastructure projects minimal or zero.

The financial and economic bloc of the government has driven the economy into

Some consider us to be terrible statesmen-conductors, but the task of the state is to launch a market mechanism for investing in development. That is, it is necessary to create the starting dynamics, to form a steady demand for the results of the modernization, and thereby launch the “flywheel”. But the “flywheel” will not start, because the macroeconomic policy has achieved its results: market investments in the Russian economy are inefficient and uncompetitive. Only direct government demand is competitive. To the extent that the state manifests this demand, it acts contrary to the state of affairs that our own government forms. That is, it is a struggle between us and ourselves.

It is necessary to change macroeconomic policy, and change it is difficult. Any attempt to seriously devalue the ruble will simply bankrupt the Russian banking system, which has all the liabilities in foreign currency, and the money will go to save this system. The financial and economic bloc of the government drove the economy in US Pat. There is no easy way out. The power has now gone to the things that 5-10 should have done years ago. This is very good, but late: the cancer at the first stage is treated differently than the cancer at the fourth.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 08: 27 New
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    Any attempt to seriously devalue the ruble will simply bankrupt the Russian banking system, in which all liabilities are in foreign currency, and the money will be used to save this system. The financial and economic block of the government drove the economy into US Pat. There is no easy way out of it. The authorities now went to things that should have been done 5-10 years ago. This is very pleasing, but late: cancer in the first stage is treated differently than cancer in the fourth.
    So I didn’t understand, crisis again or what? Hello, Leontiev, do what ???
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 13 November 2013 08: 32 New
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      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      So I didn’t understand, crisis again or what? Hello, Leontiev, do what ???

      Like what? Kudrin for a stake, henchmen in prisons, money in real estate, (this is for the oligarchy, we have nothing to drink). But as they say - "It's too late to drink barjomi ..." Sasha, hi !
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 13 November 2013 13: 24 New
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        Quote: Tersky
        .But as they say - "It's too late to drink barjomi.

        Although I don’t really respect Leontiev, he is right here.
        It's really late, these therapeutic measures will not help. The system needs to be completely changed. But how to change it? This means the management admits its inadequacy and honestly say, “For the last 13 years we have been moving in the wrong direction and doing everything wrong.” Will Putin and his team do this? : will not work, so
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        crisis again or what

        Yes, Alexander, is approaching slowly. I then thought that the current situation would be somewhere by the end of the 14th year, even by 15 maybe by the middle. But no, they got up earlier, did the WTO influence something?
      2. bolonenkov
        bolonenkov 13 November 2013 16: 17 New
        +1
        So I didn’t understand, crisis again or what? Hello, Leontiev, do what ??

        If we follow the conclusions of Leontief over the past years, then according to the calculations of Russia and the United States, there will come complete gratuities, and he claims every year, for 20 years now, only the opinions of analysts are very quickly forgotten, since they do not take decisions and take no responsibility for their words do not carry.
        But when some "theory" finds its confirmation in reality, these analysts can no longer be stopped, they will continue to yell "I WARNED", "I SPEAKED", etc., keeping silent about the fact that he warned about a thousand problems, but the real "came true" only one or two.

        You can send Khazin, Gaganov, Nemtsov and other "all-footers" to the same basket with Leontyev

        For example, the article says that
        "market investments in the Russian economy are ineffective and uncompetitive

        But for some reason, after the crisis of 2008, foreign direct investment in Russia is growing

        And Europeans from the USA are investing in us and Leontyev’s forecasts are not afraid

        And in the first half of 2013, the volume of foreign investment in the Russian economy grew by a third
        http://expert.ru/2013/08/23/neft-i-ritejl-prityanuli-investorov/

        Moreover, Siemens is building a full cycle production for gas turbines in the Leningrad region
        The volume of investments will be 275 million euros. The project should pay off by the third quarter 2026 years
        http://expert.ru/northwest/2013/44/siemens-stroit-v-lenoblasti-proizvodstvo-poln

        ogo-tsikla /
        And in Kaluga tire factory Continental opened
        "At the first stage, investments in production amounted to 240 million euros, the production capacity of the enterprise will be 4 million tires per year"
        http://expert.ru/2013/10/29/rezina-dlya-avtomobilej/

        DO NOT BELIEVE INVESTORS LEONTIEVA - DO NOT BELIEVE !!!
    2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 13 November 2013 08: 33 New
      +5
      Do not panic, Alexander, in my opinion he is very dramatic! what
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 13 November 2013 08: 36 New
        +3
        irony and panic are the same thing?
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 08: 50 New
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        Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
        Do not panic Alexander,

        Yes, what a panic, to me what to panic is to let millionaires panic, but I'm a modest person. In any situation, I won’t lose much laughing
        1. INTER
          INTER 13 November 2013 09: 28 New
          +8
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Yes, what a panic, to me what to panic is to let millionaires panic, but I'm a modest person. In any situation, I won’t lose much

          I agree +++++ Let the rich think how to cope with this, but we don’t die, we have dachas, potatoes, bread and don’t start jumping from balconies!
          1. IRBIS
            IRBIS 13 November 2013 10: 35 New
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            Quote: INTER
            Let the rich think how to cope with this, but we don’t die, we don’t die and we don’t die from the balconies!


            Dream: you walk through the city, and here - a slap! - this is Kudrin from the balcony - slap, slap! - this is Miller with Medvedev - slap, slap, slap ..... (hereinafter - according to the Forbes list) !!! And you go and enjoy your new life ...
            1. INTER
              INTER 13 November 2013 11: 28 New
              +4
              Quote: IRBIS
              Dream: you walk through the city, and here - a slap! - this is Kudrin from the balcony - slap, slap! - this is Miller with Medvedev - slap, slap, slap ..... (hereinafter - according to the Forbes list) !!! And you go and enjoy your new life ...

              ++++ beautifully said, nothing to add. All those who harm the country!
            2. not good
              not good 13 November 2013 12: 29 New
              +4
              Nothing of a glistopad was planned, although it may still be DREAMS COME TRUE ???
              1. INTER
                INTER 13 November 2013 13: 55 New
                +2
                Quote: Negoro
                DREAMS COME TRUE???

                Although you missed the first word, you forgot the word GAZPROM))))
            3. smile
              smile 13 November 2013 15: 25 New
              +4
              IRBIS
              Remember, the sun has already risen. and grandmothers all fell and fell ... :)))
            4. atalef
              atalef 13 November 2013 20: 25 New
              +2
              Quote: IRBIS
              here - slap! - this is Kudrin from the balcony - slap, slap! - this is Miller with Medvedev, - slap, slap, slap ... (hereinafter - on the Forbes list) !!! And you go and enjoy your new life ...

              This is what they do now, shitting on everyone from above, slap, slap, slap laughing
          2. smile
            smile 13 November 2013 15: 23 New
            +1
            INTER
            Eh ... what should I do? The whole house area was allegedly sowed with lawn grass ... and something mutant began to grow, knee-high, and at such a speed that you wonders ... mow, mow ... grows, the infection is abnormal .... what's wrong with that. ..that has grown, I’m not sure how to do it, than I can’t imagine this tree of lime grass:))) ... what kind of potatoes are there ... :))) it’s one joy- if I don’t break it from the balcony, it’s soft ... :)))
            1. INTER
              INTER 14 November 2013 09: 58 New
              0
              Quote: smile
              Eh ... what should I do? The whole house area was allegedly sowed with lawn grass ... and something mutant began to grow, knee-high, and at such a speed that you wonders ... mow, mow ... grows, the infection is abnormal .... what's wrong with that. ..that has grown, I’m not sure how to do it, than I can’t imagine this tree of lime grass:))) ... what kind of potatoes are there ... :))) it’s one joy- if I don’t break it from the balcony, it’s soft ... :)))

              I have a lot of it, I’ll share it, not greedy! I mean, if the enemies of the country die from this, we will endure such problems!
        2. Renat
          Renat 13 November 2013 12: 55 New
          +1
          There is a little egg, but it does not work on those. Almost poems turned out. In the event of a repetition of a grandiose schukher in the financial world, both the egg and our taxes will, of course, be used to save the very nouveau riche that will suffer the most. Moreover, more recently, we have observed this.
          1. max702
            max702 13 November 2013 15: 04 New
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            That's how it should have been "There is a jug! But it works not for those..and not here .."
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 13 November 2013 08: 37 New
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      Quote: ....
      moreover, the least dumb ones were chosen as projects.


      Or maybe someone knows how much tax payers circus riding a torch in the cities? the export of a bunch of deputies to sowing. pole? Departure him into space? Do we have the poor over? Disabled cured?
      1. Warrawar
        Warrawar 13 November 2013 09: 33 New
        +6
        Quote: Vadivak
        Or maybe someone knows how much tax payers circus riding a torch in the cities? the export of a bunch of deputies to sowing. pole? Departure him into space? Do we have the poor over? Disabled cured?

        And the government is doing well, why not play in the Olympics.
        1. APES
          APES 13 November 2013 10: 10 New
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          Quote: Warrawar
          why not play in the Olympics


          I don’t know how to, but my decision is to boycott the Olympics !!!
          It's a pity no one will notice this (I understand), but I hope there is someone else.

          It should be a shame for the "authorities" to carry out such measures when their own pensioners "rummage around" in the garbage - collecting aluminum cans from under the Coca-Cola with the symbols of the Olympic Games.
          1. Warrawar
            Warrawar 13 November 2013 11: 14 New
            +3
            Quote: APES
            I don’t know how to, but my decision is to boycott the Olympics !!!

            Well, how can we boycott it? I personally was not going to go there, and most of those present here, I think, too.
            For example, in Germany, in one of the cities, the authorities also started talking about "holding the Olympics." So this initiative did not pass the vote, in a popular referendum ...
            http://www.city-fm.ru/news/show/100446452.html
            And no one even asked us, everything was decided for us in advance. And it doesn't matter that we have where to invest money, in addition to the Olympics. The government decided to arrange a "Feast in Time of Plague", which means it will suit it.
            And then they tell us stories about the "decaying" West and the ubiquitous agents of the State Department, who do not allow us to live well.
            1. APES
              APES 13 November 2013 11: 58 New
              +1
              Quote: Warrawar
              can boycott


              For example: do not buy products with its symbols.
              never go to Sochi again
              even simple, corny - not to watch broadcasts, etc. etc.
              a lot of things you can think of, the main thing is that everything be within the law
              1. Warrawar
                Warrawar 13 November 2013 13: 42 New
                +1
                Quote: APES
                For example: do not buy products with its symbols.

                This is a drop in the bucket ... and even our bureaucrats don't give a damn about it, they already managed to grab a big one

                Quote: APES
                never go to Sochi again

                As a result, we will make the Sochi residents worse, and not the bureaucrats who steal ...
            2. Walker1975
              Walker1975 13 November 2013 15: 43 New
              0
              Still ahead of the World Cup ...
          2. Fobos-grunt
            Fobos-grunt 13 November 2013 14: 00 New
            +1
            Who will watch this Olympiad? Medvezopok made "Summer time" Broadcasts will be to the taste only of such viewers in Europe and America
          3. bolonenkov
            bolonenkov 13 November 2013 15: 13 New
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            Quote: APES
            pensioners "rummage around" in the garbage - collecting aluminum cans from under the Coca-Cola with the symbols of the Olympic Games.


            Pensions in the Russian Federation increased 5 times in real terms
            As of April 2013, the average labor pension in Russia is 10 rubles
            Since 2000, we have managed to narrow the gap in the amount of pensions between us and the West from monstrous 50 times to quite decent 2-4 times.

            For example.
            For 2013, the average pension in Germany is 1266 euros. Given the different purchasing power of our currencies and different retirement ages, this is about three times higher than in Russia. A good indicator, given that at the end of the nineties, the size of average pensions differed dozens of times.
            And do not forget that Germany's retirement age is 7 years higher for men and 13 years for women, and actually the pensions themselves are paid to the state, and private pension funds


            Another question is that this is probably not enough, and it is necessary to increase the speed of raising pensions, since the Russian Federation is a social state, but this sphere is deeply economic and involves a huge number of undercurrents and problems, but this must be solved as soon as possible!
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 13 November 2013 20: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: bolonenkov
              Pensions in the Russian Federation increased 5 times in real terms

              And how many times have prices increased since 2000?
              For example, gas rose 17 times, from 27 kopecks. up to 4 rub. 70 kopecks.
        2. Walker1975
          Walker1975 13 November 2013 15: 42 New
          +1
          I don’t know, specifically, in relation to the torch, but for the whole Olympics, it would be possible to build 600 thousand apartments at a cost of 3 million rubles each. At the same time and raise the construction and related industries.
          1. bolonenkov
            bolonenkov 13 November 2013 15: 58 New
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            Quote: Walker1975
            I don’t know, specifically, in relation to the torch, but for the whole Olympics, it would be possible to build 600 thousand apartments at a cost of 3 million rubles each. At the same time and raise the construction and related industries.

            The take-and-share logic is not always correct.

            In our case, the Olympics, the Universiade, or the World Cup in football, the ability to really raise the regions to a different level, in Kazan, after the Universiade, no one thinks how much skates could be bought with this money, but they just do that they rejoice at new interchanges, roads, metro stations, stadiums, pools and restored cultural monuments.
            Well, as for such intangible capital as "authority" or "image" of the country, it is not necessary to speak, this is understandable.

            A couple of examples from other countries
            In the US, a bunch of homeless children, heard the figure of 1,5 million

            "Moreover, earlier the US Department of Education published data that 16,1 million American children (21,8%) live in poverty. In addition, in the United States, according to various sources, young people aged 16 to 24 years do not study or work anywhere. "

            http://russian.rt.com/article/17384

            But this does not stop them from spending a trillion $ on state-of-the-art aircraft and aircraft carriers for war with the aborigines of the Middle East.

            Another example is China, which has carried out everything that we recently conducted or will only carry out, with the exception of the World Cup, but at the same time held the Summer Olympics, although the number of people working for a cup of rice is tens of millions and the poor hundreds of millions.
            1. Warrawar
              Warrawar 13 November 2013 18: 26 New
              +1
              Quote: bolonenkov
              The take-and-share logic is not always correct.

              This is yes. But the “take and not divide” logic is even less true.
      2. DEfindER
        DEfindER 13 November 2013 09: 35 New
        -4
        Quote: Vadivak
        Or maybe someone knows how much tax payers circus riding a torch in the cities? the export of a bunch of deputies to sowing. pole? Departure him into space? Do we have the poor over? Disabled cured?

        Do you think that investing this money in medicine and charity they will not plunder? And even though they made a holiday for the people :) It is precisely such events that unite the people and inspire them for the best .. Do not take away the holiday from people :)
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 13 November 2013 09: 47 New
          +5
          Quote: DEfindER
          It is such events that unite the people and inspire them for the best ..:


          It is these events that make it possible to plunder the budget and intensify the crisis. All countries with developed economies have recently been refusing to hold various championships - they are saving money for social services, while our "athletes" have already reached the Pension Fund
          1. dmb
            dmb 13 November 2013 10: 21 New
            +7
            2013-Universiade in Kazan, 2014-Olympics in Sochi, 2018-World Cup. It seems that the President-drunk is better for the budget than the President-athlete (a new joke).
            1. Warrawar
              Warrawar 13 November 2013 11: 51 New
              +3
              Quote: dmb
              2013-Universiade in Kazan, 2014-Olympics in Sochi, 2018-World Cup. It seems that the President-drunk is better for the budget than the President-athlete (a new joke).

              2019 Universiade in Novosibirsk.
              1. Ptah
                Ptah 13 November 2013 11: 58 New
                0
                Quote: Warrawar
                2019 Universiade in Novosibirsk.

                In 2016 (?) The World Golf Championship in the fields of a teddy bear ...
                And then longing comes and you have to go to work.
                1. Warrawar
                  Warrawar 13 November 2013 12: 04 New
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                  Quote: Ptah
                  In 2016 (?) The World Golf Championship in the fields of a teddy bear ...

                  Slightly mistaken - Universiade 2019 in Krasnoyarsk ...
                  The Executive Committee of the International University Sports Federation (FISU) approved Krasnoyarsk as the venue for the XXIX World Winter Universiade in 2019.
                  http://www.rg.ru/2013/11/10/universiada-site-anons.html
            2. optimist
              optimist 13 November 2013 12: 58 New
              +4
              Quote: dmb
              It seems that the President-drunk is better for the budget than the President-athlete (a new joke).

              There are persistent rumors that immediately after the "limpiyada" putler and co will turn something like August 1998 ...
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        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 13 November 2013 09: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: DEfindER
          It is such events that unite the people and inspire them for the best ..:


          It is these events that make it possible to plunder the budget and intensify the crisis. All countries with developed economies have recently been refusing to hold various championships - they are saving money for social services, while our "athletes" have already reached the Pension Fund
        3. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 13 November 2013 10: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: DEfindER
          Do you think that investing this money in medicine and charity they will not plunder? And even though they did a holiday to the people :)

          Sleep at the Olympics .... whether much more. And how they built there, it is better not to mention.
          1. DEfindER
            DEfindER 13 November 2013 10: 45 New
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Sleep at the Olympics .... whether much more.

            And you are aware that not a single state ruble has been spent on the Olympics, everything is only private investment. Well, the truth is companies like Gazprom are officially considered private.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 13 November 2013 10: 56 New
              +1
              Quote: DEfindER

              And you are aware that not a single state ruble has been spent on the Olympics, everything is only private investment. Well, the truth is companies like Gazprom are officially considered private.

              Do you mean the Olympstroy corporation? So it is financed from the federal budget. Climb on the internet. And you yourself said about Gazprom. There is a penny of private investment, for which they buy the loyalty of the authorities, or the infrastructure after the Olympics. The Olympics in their entire history have never been profitable. hi
              1. DEfindER
                DEfindER 13 November 2013 14: 36 New
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                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Olympics in their history have never been profitable.

                Well, how can I say, do you think the population’s interest in sports is growing, and the feeling of pride in their country does not affect the economy in any way? You can certainly spend billions on medicine and treat a huge number of patients, or not spend these billions because patients themselves will become smaller due to increased sports culture. The productivity of an athletic person and an unsportsmanlike person can be compared. Yes, it all depends on each other, a healthy nation is the foundation of prosperity.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 13 November 2013 19: 04 New
                  +2
                  Quote: DEfindER
                  Well, this is how to say, consider increasing the interest of the population in sports

                  Young people in sports can be brought in other ways, not so costly. Most will watch the Olympics on TV with beer. This is pseudo pride. Quote -Meal'n'RealDoes it mean anything to you? True pride in the country is different.
                  1. DEfindER
                    DEfindER 14 November 2013 10: 02 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Most will watch the Olympics on TV with beer.

                    And what of this, of course, not everyone will be able to go to Sochi, but the whole country will see the Olympics, and people, if I may say so, will be sported out.
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Quote -Bread and circuses, does it mean anything to you? True pride in the country is different.

                    If the Olympics is not your pride for the country, then I don’t know what else to tell you.
            2. Warrawar
              Warrawar 13 November 2013 12: 17 New
              +2
              Quote: DEfindER
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Sleep at the Olympics .... whether much more.

              And you are aware that not a single state ruble has been spent on the Olympics, everything is only private investment. Well, the truth is companies like Gazprom are officially considered private.

              The Olympics, for the most part, were financed by loans from Sberbank and VTB. Naturally, the event will be unprofitable and the loans will have to be "restructured", and of course at the expense of the state.
            3. baltika-18
              baltika-18 13 November 2013 13: 54 New
              +3
              Quote: DEfindER
              And you are aware that not a single state ruble was spent on the Olympics, everything is only private investment

              You are wrong, this information is available. 1 trillion rubles is budgetary, 500 billion. Investments. But the investments are dark, the money is ours, passed offshore, and legalized in the country in this way.
        4. Ptah
          Ptah 13 November 2013 12: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: DEfindER
          Do not take away the holiday from people

          No way. In Russia at the end of any holiday planned massacre. With subsequent hangover. Do you need examples?
        5. Warrawar
          Warrawar 13 November 2013 13: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: DEfindER
          It is such events that unite the people and inspire them for the best .. Do not take away the holiday from people :)

          The construction of new, comfortable residential buildings, followed by the relocation of people from dilapidated dwellings there, would unite the people more, and the holiday would not be on TV, but in reality.
          And so this Olympics is a "Feast during the Plague" in the truest sense.
      3. Tersky
        Tersky 13 November 2013 10: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: Vadivak
        Do we have the poor over? Disabled cured?

        Judging by the costs of such "events" of the servants of the people, their "scanty" salaries and how the budget for social services is cut from their point of view, all problems are probably solved. Vadim, hi!
      4. baltika-18
        baltika-18 13 November 2013 13: 48 New
        +3
        Quote: Vadivak
        Or maybe someone knows how much tax payers circus riding a torch in cities? the export of a bunch of deputies to the north. pole? Departure him into space?

        Such data is unlikely to appear. But the total cost of the Olympics is 1,5 trillion. rubles. And 1 trillion. purely budgetary expenses. Do you know, for example, what can be built with this money?
        1 trillion rubles, you can build 1000 modern agro-industrial complexes of 500 cattle each or 30 large-scale production.
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER 13 November 2013 14: 40 New
          -3
          Quote: baltika-18
          1 trillion rubles, you can build 1000 modern agro-industrial complexes of 500 cattle each or 30 large-scale production.

          Or it may be better to raise labor productivity by improving the nation and increasing the sports culture of the population, which is greatly facilitated by sporting events of this magnitude.
          1. Warrawar
            Warrawar 13 November 2013 15: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: DEfindER
            Or it may be better to raise labor productivity by improving the nation and increasing the sports culture of the population, which is greatly facilitated by sporting events of this magnitude.

            Labor productivity, first of all, needs to be raised by the introduction of workplace automation. And in order that there would be a need for automation, it is necessary to stop the importation of slave labor, and already drove the deported back to their native villages.
          2. max702
            max702 13 November 2013 15: 36 New
            +2
            Performance is very weakly dependent on sports culture, but very much on production culture! That is, enterprises, factories, factories with high-quality equipment and modern technologies. But the money was spent on sports events and sports facilities, and a little on infrastructure .. There is no money on technology, factories and other things ... As the prime minister of our government recently hinted more than transparently .
            1. DEfindER
              DEfindER 13 November 2013 17: 01 New
              -1
              Quote: max702
              Performance is very weakly dependent on sports culture, but very much on production culture!

              Those. the fact that people often go on sick leave does not affect labor productivity in any way, but the fact that in a healthy body has a healthy mind, and therefore the mind, apparently forgot the same thing ... not to mention physical labor ..
              1. Yarosvet
                Yarosvet 13 November 2013 17: 15 New
                +1
                Quote: DEfindER
                Those. the fact that people often go on sick leave has no effect on labor productivity

                If you want people not to get sick - provide them with a sufficient level of social guarantees (giving them the opportunity to eat fully), give confidence in the future and safety (thereby reducing stress), provide affordable high-quality medicine and education (an educated person harms himself less, and medicine allows you to identify and effectively treat diseases in the early stages) and give the opportunity and time for classes physical education, which has nothing to do with sport of high achievements.
                1. DEfindER
                  DEfindER 13 November 2013 17: 29 New
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                  Quote: Yarosvet
                  provide affordable quality medicine and education (an educated person harms himself less, and medicine allows you to identify and effectively treat diseases in the early stages)

                  Well, it’s better to treat diseases, and spend money on it or make sure that they simply do not exist, removing their cause - an unhealthy lifestyle. The sport of high achievements draws the whole people to recovery, to amateur sports.
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 13 November 2013 19: 08 New
                    +1
                    Quote: DEfindER
                    Well, it’s better to treat diseases, and spend money on it or to make it so that they simply do not exist
                    Vyacheslav - How old are you that you love fiction so much?
                    Are you going to treat stress with sports, including due to a lack of time and effort for a trivial run?
                    Are you going to treat viral and bacterial infections with sports?
                    Are you going to treat occupational diseases with sports, including those caused by the disgusting organization of labor and forced processing?
                    Are you going to treat sports arising from malnutrition, poor ecology, etc.?

                    removing their cause is an unhealthy lifestyle
                    Having written this phrase, you either did not understand what you wrote or deliberately substituted concepts, since an unhealthy lifestyle is a complex of factors, only a small part of which is the sedentary lifestyle that you are writing about.

                    The sport of high achievements draws the whole people to recovery, to amateur sports.
                    A high-achievement sport is a show business, and the only thing he wants to do is sit on the sofa, open a bottle of beer and watch the competition.
                    1. DEfindER
                      DEfindER 14 November 2013 09: 50 New
                      0
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      Are you going to treat stress with sports, including due to a lack of time and effort for a trivial run?

                      YES
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      Are you going to treat viral and bacterial infections with sports?

                      YES (bacteria always attack a weakened body)
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      Are you going to treat occupational diseases with sports, including those caused by the disgusting organization of labor and forced processing?

                      YES
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      Are you going to treat sports arising from malnutrition, poor ecology, etc.?

                      YES
                      All the factors you cited are more dangerous for non-sports people.
                      Quote: Yarosvet
                      A high-achievement sport is a show business, and the only thing he wants to do is sit on the sofa, open a bottle of beer and watch the competition.

                      For part of the population, yes, but not for everyone
                      1. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 14 November 2013 14: 09 New
                        +1
                        Hard case.
              2. Warrawar
                Warrawar 13 November 2013 18: 15 New
                0
                Quote: DEfindER
                Those. the fact that people often go on sick leave does not affect labor productivity in any way, but the fact that in a healthy body has a healthy mind, and therefore the mind, apparently forgot the same thing ... not to mention physical labor ..

                Stop practicing cheap populism, in the style of Soviet posters, the first half of the last century ...
      5. bolonenkov
        bolonenkov 13 November 2013 15: 02 New
        -2
        Quote: Vadivak
        Or maybe someone knows how much tax payers circus riding a torch in the cities? the export of a bunch of deputies to sowing. pole? Departure him into space? Do we have the poor over? Disabled cured?

        I think it would not be much easier for the disabled if the money for the torch and the "removal of a handful of deputies" were given to them, although the fact that the state should fight poverty and help its citizens in all spheres is a fact, and I am with you in full I agree. good

        But the fact that the image of the Russian Federation as a normal country in the eyes of both potential investors and ordinary foreign citizens (and among them many still believe in bears and torture by the KGB) will grow, suggests that all this mess with the Universiade in Kazan, The MFM and the Children's Games in Ufa, the Olympics in Sochi, the APEC summit in Vladik, the SCO in Yekaterinburg, the FIFA World Cup, Eurovision Song Contest, the Winter Universiade in Krasnoyarsk will bring these same disabled people and the poor, and our entire great Great Country more benefit than giving away one-time "gingerbread"
    4. APES
      APES 13 November 2013 08: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      crisis again or what?


      it did not end - a crisis.

      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      to do what


      To invest in the modernization of the armed forces and military-industrial complex - in the near future all this will be very necessary.
      1. atalef
        atalef 13 November 2013 09: 17 New
        0
        Quote: APES
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        crisis again or what?


        it did not end - a crisis.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        to do what


        To invest in the modernization of the armed forces and military-industrial complex - in the near future all this will be very necessary.

        Once again, sticking money into the non-production sector (more precisely, not profitable) does the history of the USSR with its military-industrial complex teach nothing? Bury ourselves, the economy will collapse
        1. APES
          APES 13 November 2013 09: 27 New
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          (more precisely, not profitable)


          Who told you? arms trade - the third in the world in terms of profitability.

          Quote: atalef
          the history of the USSR with its military-industrial complex does not teach anything


          Thanks to the military-industrial complex of the USSR, today's RF exists
        2. Warrawar
          Warrawar 13 November 2013 09: 35 New
          +6
          Quote: atalef
          Once again, sticking money into the non-production sector (more precisely, not profitable) does the history of the USSR with its military-industrial complex teach nothing? Bury ourselves, the economy will collapse

          Well, you need to invest in the "profitable" sector. The same military-industrial complex is now in great demand. The main thing is to sell products for real money, and not give them away (for irrecoverable loans) to "fraternal" republics to maintain friendly regimes.
        3. DEfindER
          DEfindER 13 November 2013 10: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: atalef
          Once again, sticking money into the non-production sector (more precisely, not profitable) does the history of the USSR with its military-industrial complex teach nothing?

          Why not profitable, now everyone suffers from poor-quality Chinese goods, we have quite inexpensive slave labor in the country, and a huge intellectual reserve from the USSR (Not all research institutes have collapsed, the RAS still has sufficient potential) If you invest correctly, the effect will be huge. For example, China itself, having no scientific potential, has developed all types of industry to a colossal scale, due to investments in the real sector.
          And the history of the USSR just has to teach how to carry out industrialization, first of all, by the merciless fight against corruption in the form of large-scale repressions, which the whole people long for, without which no industrialization is possible.
        4. bolonenkov
          bolonenkov 13 November 2013 18: 19 New
          -1
          Quote: atalef
          (more precisely, not profitable) does the history of the USSR with its military-industrial complex teach nothing?

          Everything was super in the military-industrial complex, and the arms trade ranks third in the world in profitability.
          As for the USSR, then probably everyone is aware of how we "sold" tanks, anti-aircraft weapons, machine guns, cars, armored personnel carriers to friendly countries-freeloaders for loans or promissory notes that no one returned, and most likely did not intend to return even upon receipt of the equipment ...
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 13 November 2013 10: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: APES
        Invest in the modernization of the armed forces and military-industrial complex - in the near future all this will be very necessary

        Greetings to Andrew. hi
        Lift it all up. But why is agriculture so undeservedly forgotten? After all, Russia is now far beyond the threshold of food security, 40 percent of food imports are priests. And steps in this direction are not visible at all. This despite the fact that for centuries the village has been a supplier of not only provisions, but also human resources. The removal of the tax burden, coupled with the compensation of interest on loans would really save agriculture, and the state would have practically nothing to lose. Leontiev correctly noted
        A purposeful, well-organized policy of launching reindustrialization, the state program, in my opinion, would be more effective than the rather chaotic costs of infrastructure projects.
        But our government is proud of the Olympics and the reconstruction of the Moscow Ring Road.
        1. APES
          APES 13 November 2013 13: 46 New
          +2
          Good afternoon! hi

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Agriculture


          A painful topic - I completely agree, in the framework of this, in addition to all investments, you need:
          1. State protection of a domestic manufacturer
          2. State monopoly on vodka (I regard Gorbachev’s rejection of it as CONSCIOUS wrecking)
          3. State subsidies to peasants
          4. Like a dream - the revival of the Russian village

          He focused on the military-industrial complex for the following reasons:
          1. can be a real locomotive (for example, the construction of a submarine is about 700 of enterprises working in industrial cooperation - with all the consequences)
          2. All domestic high technologies are concentrated in the military-industrial complex
          3. The personnel of the military-industrial complex (unfortunately its remnants), but this is still so far enough to grow a new generation
          4. High value added
          5. Defense Enhancement
          6. in the sense of patriotism, then people working in the defense industry - I trust more than the builders of roads and Olympic facilities
          7. can go on ......

          Quote: Ingvar 72
          our government is proud of the Olympics and the reconstruction of the Moscow Ring Road

          It is understandable:
          It will be possible to hang out at the Olympics, and "THEY" travel along the Moscow Ring Road.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 13 November 2013 14: 01 New
            +2
            I completely agree with you. All this needs to be done in a complex.
            Quote: APES
            . The personnel of the military-industrial complex (unfortunately its remnants), but this is still so far enough to grow a new generation

            About the staff, or rather the remnants, especially. Uncle in Tagil works on the lining, talking about the "gifted" new generation. Of course, I make allowances for the fact that old young people always scold, but according to my own observations, in most of his criticism, he is right. Push-button workers do not look beyond templates.
    5. atalef
      atalef 13 November 2013 08: 57 New
      +1

      So I didn’t understand, crisis again or what?

      Sasha, hi! Of course, this is not a crisis, in the global sense, this is a purely Russian crisis. Simply, the commitments made by the country (or rather the GDP) implied some future achievements - such as an increase in GDP and oil and gas prices, neither of which happened.
      Then - olympiads, astes, world championships and so on - Russia put up such costly projects that no one needed to fuck (well, they really tried to make them just the grave of dough in Russia), then the largest investment projects like both Streams, Sash money tend to end and they just ended up, going into the stab fund — there will be no money or fund, so the first call — they froze pension contributions, and practically raising the retirement age, of course, the second step — they will drop the ruble, so believe me - transfer rubles to bucks- otherwise you’ll lose (the main revenue of Russia in dollars - euros) and increase the number of rubles in one step, without particularly straining - an attractive step, while, of course, the competitiveness of Russian goods will increase, since they will become cheaper in dollars, but what about the debts? (By the way, what kind of debts is Leont'ev talking about? Everyone here is sure that only the USA has debts) about corporate (more precisely state-owned - which they have done more than one hundred billion) They can somehow get out, you can agree on a delay, etc.
      Believe me, the ruble will be dropped, convert to bucks and euros hi
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 13 November 2013 09: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        Believe me, the ruble will be dropped, convert to bucks and euros

        Who has them.
        And 60% of the population of Russia did not see them in the head.
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 13 November 2013 09: 56 New
        0
        Yes, the buck is more likely to crash. We at least live within our means, but the Americans ...
        1. APES
          APES 13 November 2013 13: 58 New
          +2
          Quote: alicante11
          We at least live within our means


          According to the results of the 10 months of the 2013 year, the volume of lending to the Russian population exceeded 10 trillion rubles. The amount of credit indebtedness per capita exceeded 62 thousand rubles. Without a mortgage, the figures are slightly lower - on average about 43-44 thousand rubles.
    6. Karabin
      Karabin 13 November 2013 13: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Hello, Leontyev, do what ???

      Leontyev himself is unlikely to personally answer this resource. I will try, based on previous publications and television programs of Mr. Leontyev.
      1. The main thing is that you, as a voter, were required at this stage, Alexander, you have already done. In December 11, they voted for the "party of the popular majority" ((C) GDP), and in March 12 for the only one with no alternative.
      2. Continue in the same vein. Believe in the President, persuade the President and fight for the President, sometimes even with the President himself.
      3. More and more stigmatize America, swamp, liberals and buggers. It is they who lead our economic, power, social and other blocs.
    7. bolonenkov
      bolonenkov 13 November 2013 14: 48 New
      -1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      So I didn’t understand, crisis again or what? Hello, Leontiev, do what ???

      If we follow the conclusions of Leontief over the past 20 years, then according to the calculations of Russia and the United States, there will come complete gratuities, only the opinions of analysts are very quickly forgotten, since they do not take decisions and bear no responsibility for their words.
      But when some "theory" finds its confirmation in reality, these analysts can no longer be stopped, they will continue to yell "I WARNED", "I SPEAKED", etc., keeping silent about the fact that he warned about a thousand problems, but the real "came true" only one or two.

      Khazin, Gaganov, Nemtsov and other "all-fledged" people can be sent to one basket with Leontyev.

      For example, the article says that
      "market investments in the Russian economy are ineffective and uncompetitive

      But for some reason, after the crisis of 2008, foreign direct investment in Russia is growing

      And Europeans from the USA are investing in us and Leontyev’s forecasts are not afraid

      And in the first half of 2013, the volume of foreign investment in the Russian economy grew by a third
      http://expert.ru/2013/08/23/neft-i-ritejl-prityanuli-investorov/

      Moreover, Siemens is building a full cycle production for gas turbines in the Leningrad region
      "The investment volume will amount to 275 million euros. The project should pay off by the third quarter of 2026."
      http://expert.ru/northwest/2013/44/siemens-stroit-v-lenoblasti-proizvodstvo-poln
      ogo-tsikla /
      And in Kaluga tire factory Continental opened
      "At the first stage, investments in production amounted to 240 million euros, the production capacity of the enterprise will be 4 million tires per year."
      http://expert.ru/2013/10/29/rezina-dlya-avtomobilej/

      DO NOT BELIEVE INVESTORS LEONTIEVA - DO NOT BELIEVE !!!
    8. Walker1975
      Walker1975 13 November 2013 15: 34 New
      +2
      Dream! :)

      In general, it reminds a joke about mice that went to the Wise Owl with the question: what should they do? Everyone in the forest eats them ... The owl thought and said: but you become a hedgehog - you will have needles and no one will touch you. Mice were delighted ... and then one little mouse asked: how do we become hedgehogs? To which Owl answers: I am a strategist, and decide the tactical issues yourself.

      So it is here. Everyone admits that the situation is a fig ... even the government said that there would be no improvement until 2030 ... and this with a steady increase in oil prices, and with a fall in prices or a decrease in purchases - it will be sad. Everyone agrees that it is necessary to build production, to raise small and medium-sized businesses, to increase the science intensity of enterprises ... to increase the competitiveness of products. It remains only to answer: how?
      1. alone
        alone 13 November 2013 19: 41 New
        +1
        Mikhail Leontyev! He is a journalist, expert, lawyer, strategist, military, police, archimandrite, mullah, rabbi, international finance expert, etc. etc.

        maybe it’s enough for the people to stir up their heads? at the end, select one industry in which you understand in reality and finally get down to business.
    9. tomket
      tomket 13 November 2013 23: 28 New
      0
      Already striding around the country, actually doing something too late, we will sit and wait for 98 of the year.
  2. Alikovo
    Alikovo 13 November 2013 08: 29 New
    +1
    it’s all the fault of the wrongly appointed ministers.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 13 November 2013 08: 46 New
      10
      Quote: Alikovo
      it’s all the fault of the wrongly appointed ministers.


      Naturally, the king is beyond criticism and competition

      KING
      In vain you, Fedya! .. For me
      My people are my relatives.
      I'm without thoughts about the people
      I can’t live a day! ..
      In the morning I smear a sandwich -
      Immediately thought: what about the people?
      And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
      And compote does not pour into your mouth!
      I'll be at the window at night -
      And stand all night without sleep
      All worried about Rasea:
      How is she poor there? ..
      And the culprit is the general,
      Intrigue and immoral!
      Anto he, the cow's face,
      Honor the Tsar Tsar!
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 13 November 2013 09: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Vadivak
        Immediately the thought: what about the people? And the caviar does not go into the throat, And the compote does not pour into the mouth! At night I will stand by the window "And I stand all night without sleep. I worry about Rasea:

        - a good person, he would have to rest, but he thinks all about the people
      2. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 13 November 2013 10: 53 New
        +1
        Vadivak (1)
        .... And the culprit is the general,
        Intrigue and immoral!
        Anto he, the cow's face,
        Honor the Tsar Tsar!

        Leonid Filatov "wrote off" about Surdyukov, and you, Vadivak, reminded me of a good "fairy tale", thank you!
    2. atalef
      atalef 13 November 2013 09: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: Alikovo
      it’s all the fault of the wrongly appointed ministers.

      And first of all, DAM laughing
      1. Toporkoff
        Toporkoff 13 November 2013 10: 15 New
        0
        it’s all the fault of the wrongly appointed ministers.

        But all the ministers are from the people! We went to school, maybe even vocational schools graduated laughing
        The same as we are ordinary people laughing
        1. APES
          APES 13 November 2013 13: 53 New
          0
          Quote: Toporkoff
          But all the ministers from the people


          The worst slave who became master
  3. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 13 November 2013 08: 35 New
    +4
    Any attempt to seriously devalue the ruble will simply bankrupt the Russian banking system, which has all obligations in foreign currency, and the money will be used to save this system.

    Well, again, in order not to bankrupt the banking sector, they will BANK the population, so to speak - with "little blood" for those in power ...
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 13 November 2013 08: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: ia-ai00
      will bankrupt the population,

      A bankrupt cannot be bankrupt, but you can bring a riot.
    2. aksakal
      aksakal 13 November 2013 08: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: ia-ai00
      Any attempt to seriously devalue the ruble will simply bankrupt the Russian banking system, which has all obligations in foreign currency, and the money will be used to save this system.

      Well, again, in order not to bankrupt the banking sector, they will BANK the population, so to speak - with "little blood" for those in power ...

      - always and at all times all reforms were carried out exclusively at the expense of the forces of the people and never at the expense of the forces of the elite!
      In principle, the people (both Russian and Kazakh) AGREE, but under one very essential condition - that the one who will carry out these reforms WOULD GUARANTEE the success of these reforms and the achievement of the set goals. Usually this is an improvement in the well-being of the people and the accelerated development of the economy. That under the guise of reforms is not conceived again a scam for the next robbery of this very people. But since a person cannot guarantee anything, instead of guarantees, the reformer should have a CREDIT OF TRUST from the people. And Putin had it. Firstly, Putin delayed the reform, in part Leontyev is right. Second, by Kudrin's mediocre support and Serdyukov's "non-imprisonment", Putin just as well planted that credit of trust in himself, and now the implementation of painful reforms is a big question - the people no longer trust him so much.
      So, I’m afraid that now there’s one way - a slow further deterioration of the situation during convulsive attempts by the authorities to somehow save the situation without serious reforms to the point of boiling, and then - merciless Russian rebellion. IMHO and really hope that everything will be fine. There are still chances.
      1. optimist
        optimist 13 November 2013 13: 08 New
        0
        Quote: aksakal
        So, I’m afraid that now there’s one way - a slow further deterioration of the situation during convulsive attempts by the authorities to somehow save the situation without serious reforms to the point of boiling, and then - merciless Russian rebellion.

        And this is still too optimistic a scenario, provided that the local "Indians" in the NC will sit quietly and a radical Muslim invasion from the south will not start ... And those who want to involve the Russian Federation in the war (no matter what) - a carriage and a small cart !! !
  4. ed65b
    ed65b 13 November 2013 08: 43 New
    +5
    Bam and the Trans-Siberian Railway, I realized that the road to the detour of Moscow is still okay, indeed everything is through the Moscow Ring Road and the concrete is tight. But here are Moscow airplanes ???? They are entirely OJSC and CJSC, and here are our denyushki? Who lobbied? Can which plants be better to buy? Or build?
  5. Unisonic
    Unisonic 13 November 2013 08: 43 New
    +1
    Mikhail Leontyev is unexpectedly pessimistic. I think it’s no secret that he supported the Kremlin’s policy all these years, and now he suddenly declares that the patient is more dead than alive, noting that it’s too late: cancer at the first stage is treated differently than cancer at the fourth.

    Washed your hands?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 13 November 2013 08: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: Unisonic
      Washed your hands?

      No, I rather worked out the money taken from someone.
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 13 November 2013 11: 42 New
        +1
        Washed your hands?



        Rather unexpectedly sowed pink glasses what
  6. major071
    major071 13 November 2013 08: 48 New
    +6
    The financial and economic block of the government drove the economy into US Pat. There is no easy way out of it. The authorities now went to the things that needed to be done 5-10 years ago. This is very pleasing, but late: cancer in the first stage is treated differently than cancer in the fourth.

    So, scare - scared. He said that everything is already about (s) rally. So where is the answer to the rhetorical question "WHAT to do?"
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 13 November 2013 09: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: major071
      "What to do?".

      - find the scapegoat and execute it cruelly. You can goat with a sly red face, you can curly goat. While the people, with the rapture of that goat of the same one, have time to somehow play off and thereby improve the situation. For after eating the goat, the people will calm down for a short while, will demand more ... And so on until all the elite are EASY to be eaten.
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 13 November 2013 10: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: aksakal
        Quote: major071
        "What to do?".

        - find the scapegoat and execute it cruelly. You can goat with a sly red face, you can curly goat. While the people, with the rapture of that goat of the same one, have time to somehow play off and thereby improve the situation. For after eating the goat, the people will calm down for a short while, will demand more ... And so on until all the elite are EASY to be eaten.

        A goat with a "red muzzle" is covered and has a roof, but there are many "Asian and Caucasian goats" nearby, and due to the hysteria of inciting hostility towards the newcomers, the kids have already been identified and people are slowly and surely led to the idea if the tap has no water to blame - in this case, Asians and Caucasians, but not the authorities and the near-power elites.
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      3. Karabin
        Karabin 13 November 2013 19: 08 New
        0
        Quote: aksakal
        A goat can be with a sly red face,

        This cunning one will determine whom he wants.
  7. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 13 November 2013 08: 56 New
    0
    Although a hackneyed, but well-known phrase: better late than never.

    Quote: major071
    So where is the answer to the rhetorical question "WHAT to do?"

    The answer is also not original, as it seems to me:something needs to be done, with something you need to start ... Probably with REFORMING (oh ...) GOVERNMENTAL COMPOSITION, A ... For starters.
  8. Stiletto
    Stiletto 13 November 2013 09: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
    Do not panic, Alexander, in my opinion he is very dramatic!


    No, in my opinion, the population is just carefully preparing for something. I wonder why? what
  9. Unisonic
    Unisonic 13 November 2013 09: 12 New
    +2
    To the economic insolvency of the current model of the Russian economy. Zero GDP growth at an oil price of $ 110 per barrel is enchanting. The Accounts Chamber declares that over the past 10 years, more than $ 1 trillion has been withdrawn from Russia.

    What to do? Break this rotten economic system and create a new one. And you yourself understand how hard and troubled it will be. And not the fact that it will turn out. The likelihood that it will not work is just great.
  10. atalef
    atalef 13 November 2013 09: 14 New
    +2
    Quote: Stiletto
    Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
    Do not panic, Alexander, in my opinion he is very dramatic!


    No, in my opinion, the population is just carefully preparing for something. I wonder why? what

    Remember Leontyev’s previous article (about gas) and in general, who is it (the mouthpiece of GDP in the media) or am I mistaken? Everything is much more complicated and you shouldn’t think like it will blow, it will not, remember about the devaluation I wrote about 6 months ago, devaluation is an inevitable increase in prices within Russia - that is, all imports in dollars, generally like the first time in this situation, yes, of course, they will reduce the defense order, remember Putin said there is a trillion, there is no more money, and so the trillion will not be there, I can imagine how many minuses I will catch, but this will not change the truth, by the way, not so long ago Putin told the heads of regions --- If you money, so there is none
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 13 November 2013 10: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: atalef
      Putin told the regional leaders --- If you are talking about money, so here it is not

      Of course not, they have already been divided and Spiz ... and. laughing
  11. Ihrek
    Ihrek 13 November 2013 09: 36 New
    0
    Quote: Vadivak
    Quote: ....
    moreover, the least dumb ones were chosen as projects.


    Or maybe someone knows how much tax payers circus riding a torch in the cities? the export of a bunch of deputies to sowing. pole? Departure him into space? Do we have the poor over? Disabled cured?

    Vadim is called SHOW, or PONTS. Indeed, it would be better if we were weak than once again helped.
  12. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 13 November 2013 09: 47 New
    +1
    Pi ... scratch your tongue, do not toss bags. It’s never too late to act, of course, the longer the problem is launched, the more difficult it is to solve it, but was there a question of whether it was possible to solve it?
  13. Old shoe
    Old shoe 13 November 2013 09: 47 New
    +1
    Mr. Leontiev has dramatically changed something recently. From the unconditional support of the authorities I turned to forecasts about our hopeless future. Well, apparently, someone else began to pay and, accordingly, ordered music.
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  15. Begemot
    Begemot 13 November 2013 09: 58 New
    +5
    There is no business left in Russia, except for cutting the budget and extracting mineral resources; these residues are controlled by officials and oligarchs. Therefore, there is no money in the budget for a long time. Officials are consistently reducing the social burden on the budget: medicine, education, infrastructure, science, etc. and thereby increase their income in the form of salaries and kickbacks. As for the capsule, its existence is an additional confirmation of the lack of business in Russia. Money should work, not rest in other people's bins.
  16. Sterlya
    Sterlya 13 November 2013 10: 09 New
    +3
    If it's late today. tomorrow will be even later. right? so we need to use everything we have today. but subject to the effect of the multiplier. and not cumulative as Mr. Leontiev. that is, for the money to be used internally. and not so that our "business assholes" would transfer them to offshore companies and purchase any foreign x ...
  17. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 13 November 2013 10: 34 New
    +1
    Recently I saw in the news how economists predict a recession, worsening situation, slowdown by 20 years! with disappointment, I even went to drink tea from the TV. What kind of economists are these who, for 20 years, know in advance that everything will only get worse. It seems that they all turned into extras. Only they are engaged in stating the facts. Yes, in 20 years you can raise everything from scratch! and if you plan that everything will fall apart and strive for this, then there is only one road - to crawl into the cemetery.
    1. Mairos
      Mairos 13 November 2013 13: 37 New
      0
      And they, these "economists" cannot even imagine that a country can develop when the West is stagnant. For them it is like something unthinkable and impossible even theoretically
    2. Warrawar
      Warrawar 13 November 2013 18: 35 New
      0
      Quote: HollyGremlin
      What kind of economists are these who, for 20 years, know in advance that everything will only get worse.

      Well, they see what a madhouse is going on in the country and based on this they make their forecasts.
  18. ed65b
    ed65b 13 November 2013 11: 04 New
    +1
    On the other hand, Putin said an interesting thing about the inadmissibility of injecting money into the US and European economies.
    Like the risks are big, it's time to spend but not all. and savings in 2 funds of 3 trillion each, respectively, we have 6. Most likely pepper knows something but is silent. But riding a torch into space and to the bottom of Lake Baikal, the children of the Olympics, Putin’s blue dream, let him rejoice like a child, or else like a slave rowing and rowing in galleys. laughing
  19. pluginigor
    pluginigor 13 November 2013 11: 51 New
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    This is very pleasing, but late: cancer in the first stage is treated differently than cancer in the fourth. We had ten years ago and the fourth stage was twenty, and thirty, probably.
  20. Mairos
    Mairos 13 November 2013 13: 35 New
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    Eprst .. well, everything and at all levels are already yelling that the government does not correspond to the time and situation. What .. Prime Minister and his team are still in power ?!
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 13 November 2013 17: 19 New
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      Quote: Mairos
      What .. Prime Minister and his team are still in power ?!

      That ... And the prime minister and his team are part of the president’s team - therefore, in power
  21. Mairos
    Mairos 13 November 2013 13: 35 New
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    Eprst .. well, everything and at all levels are already yelling that the government does not correspond to the time and situation. What .. Prime Minister and his team are still in power ?!
  22. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 13 November 2013 13: 39 New
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    Yeah...
    All this resembles a chaotic fuss of insects not constrained by a single will, as in migratory ants, or locusts. A kind of Krylovsky swan, cancer and pike ...
    I never tire of repeating on this occasion, the winged statement of Field Marshal Christopher Antonovich Minich: "Russia is ruled directly by the Lord God. Otherwise, it is impossible to imagine how this state still exists." That and tea.
  23. Tektor
    Tektor 14 November 2013 00: 53 New
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    The easiest way to deal with the crisis is to quote prices for basic commodities in rubles, and when the syndrome occurs, simply make the prices move very slowly ... Moreover, it is desirable to agree on such mutual quotation within the BRICS: price negotiation or clearing. The main goods can be considered: grain, including buckwheat, rice, potatoes, sugar; forage crops, including soybeans; precious and industrial metals, especially those with close terms of resource depletion; oil, coal, aluminum, which must be recognized at the international level as the "material equivalent of electricity", i.e. equivalent to kWh, so that they can be calculated and stored ... And so on. If the prices of goods around the world begin to "dance", then the stability of the economic situation can be ensured only by a slow reaction that smooths out fluctuations, or simply - to tear them off temporarily wink from the world ...