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Possible scenario of new confrontation

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Recently, in the north of Israel, the final inter-troop staff exercises of the Israel Defense Forces (Israel Defense Forces) were completed, during which methods and variants of simultaneous combat operations on the Lebanese and Syrian fronts were developed. During the week, the heads of the Ministry of Defense, officers of the General Staff, Land Forces, Air Force, Navy, Headquarters of the Northern District, commanders of regular and reserve units took part in the exercise.


The main attention was paid to the organization of interaction between different types of troops based on the experience of operations in Lebanon and the Gaza Strip. The interaction of intelligence agencies was especially carefully honed, tank, infantry and artillery units, aviation и fleet, rear and communications, medicine and communications troops. The exercises were led by the head of the military school, Major General Gershon Akoen. Gabi Ashkenazi, the chief of the General Staff, observed the exercise at the headquarters of the Northern District. Defense Minister Ehud Barak also took part in the exercises.

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It can be assumed that the exercises are a preparation for another war against Lebanon. In the event of another aggravation of relations with a neighbor, Israel, taking into account previous mistakes, will try to inflict maximum damage on its most dangerous enemy. The current moment for the Israeli army can be seen as very favorable, since it is not necessary to expect a strike from the Syrian army, weakened by two years of confrontation with international terrorist groups. Moreover, Syria’s destruction of chemical weapons It is also an additional guarantee against possible trouble for Israel by the SAR.

How can military actions on the long-suffering Lebanese land look like? Having received a hard slap in the 2006 year from Hezbollah in the form of significant casualties to soldiers and the latest armored vehicles, the Israeli military leadership has drawn adequate conclusions for itself. In particular, the leadership of the IDF is unlikely to start up large units of tanks and armored vehicles in frontal attacks on populated areas. Experience shows that such actions are expedient at the last stage of the war. At the beginning of a military operation, widespread use of airborne units and special forces with the bypass of most small and large settlements is more likely.

Apparently, the theory of central network operations can be used as the basis for the strategy of the Israeli army, the initial positions of which were published 10 years ago in the national press by Colonel Musa Khamzatov. The Israel Defense Forces will initially seek to preemptively seize all key heights, passes, roads, entrances to underground shelters and numerous tunnels with extensive use of assault forces supported by aviation and artillery.

The rocket attacks on Israeli territory, of course, will be, but after the IDF occupies all the key heights and entrances to the tunnels, they will quickly stop. The solution of this problem by the Israeli army is possible with the use of guided munitions, cluster and thermobaric bombs. For their effective use, the IDF is able to create a single intelligence and information space over the entire territory of Lebanon. In the new conditions, the Hezbollah military units will be able to use only pre-installed missiles from disguised positions, bunkers and tunnels. All retractable installation positions will be quickly destroyed.

As a result of the massive strikes of the Israeli army, the troops and the Hezbollah groups will be cut. In addition, they will not have large targets for tank type attacks, as was the case in the second Lebanese war. Beat off the IDF captured heights under the fire of enemy aircraft, completely dominant in the air, and a large number of UAVs, leading continuous reconnaissance, small units are unlikely to. Any maneuver of Hezbollah by any large forces and means will be immediately detected and stopped by all the power of Israeli aviation.

TAMUZ IN THE MOUNTAIN MOUNTAINS

The possibility of such a scenario is high, but not everything is so simple. After all, the mountains and forests of Lebanon are not the sand of Libya and Iraq, which the IDF General Headquarters is well aware of. As Afghanistan has shown, even the all-powerful and ultra-modern US army can stall on the difficult terrain.
In Lebanon, the terrain can allow Hezbollah fighters to cling to Israeli positions in order to avoid losses from their artillery and aircraft. In addition, it is not always advisable to use artillery and aviation in groups of two or three, which Hezbollah is fighting. And here the leadership of the IDF has already tested a trump card - the new Tamuz missile system from the Spike NLOS family, which stands for Non Line OS Sisht - “out of sight”. The complex is a multiplatform electronic-optical rocket system for the destruction of tanks, bunkers, individual targets: ships, boats, helicopters, certain militant groups at a distance of up to 25 km. Moreover, the accuracy of hitting even at the maximum range is very high - a rocket can hit the hatch of a tank. The complex can be installed on armored vehicles, UAVs, helicopters, ships and other platforms.

The rocket is made according to the classical aerodynamic scheme with opening wings. "Tamuz" can be induced using a UAV, satellite, aircraft, has its own target-fixing system and remote control, carried out using a two-way optical image transmission system. Compactness, speed of deployment and firepower of the complex can significantly reduce the dependence of small units of special forces and paratroopers on artillery and air support.

Electron-optical control of a rocket allows you to: select a target after launching or change the type of target; get real-time intelligence and categorize the target; to seize the target after the start, to fire from closed positions; eliminate fire on your own; makes the rocket insensitive to the formulation of interference - both radio electronic and infrared. The launch is carried out in three modes: “fired and forgotten”, “fired, estimated and corrected”, “fired and fired”.

Possible configurations of the complex:

Mini Spyke - 1500 m, m - 12 kg;
Spyke SR (short range) - 200 – 800 m, m - 9 kg;
Spyke MR “Gil” (medium range) - 200 – 2500 m, m - 26 kg;
Spyke LR - 400 m, for infantry and infantry fighting vehicles, m - 26 kg;
Spyke ER, NT - Dandy (long-range version for mobile combat systems) - 8000 m, m - 33 kg.

The cost of one rocket 145 – 250 thousand dollars. Mass - 71 kg per container. Speed ​​- 120 – 180 m / s. Penetration - 1000 mm. Application at t from –32 to 49 C. It is equipped with various types of warheads (PBF and PBF / r). The complex has already been purchased by Azerbaijan, Germany, Spain, Italy, Colombia, the Netherlands, Peru, Poland, Romania, Singapore, Slovenia, Finland, France, Chile, Ecuador. In the variant NLOS "Tamuz" Israel sold only South Korea.
Previously, the complex received a run-in in the second Lebanon war. Tamuz was a significant source of losses for Hezbollah, demonstrating excellent fighting qualities and the highest accuracy thanks to the latest sensors and focusing system. In the second Lebanon war, the IDF used up to 500 missiles.

In the event of a possible conflict with Lebanon, Israel is unlikely to limit itself to the border of the Litany River, as it was in 2006. The absolute superiority of Israeli aviation, its massive use in the almost complete absence of opposition from the Hezbollah formations, will make it possible to land landings on the entire depth of Lebanese territory, including in the Hezbollah enclaves. And in this case, “Tamuz” is able to provide the IDF superiority around the perimeter of the defense of its strongholds. Israeli aviation will not allow attacks by the large units of Hezbollah captured by the IDF of the bridgeheads, while Tamuz and Spike will protect against small groups of attackers. With the help of Tamuz with TBG and all types of guided weapons, artillery and aviation, the Israelis will try to destroy all the more well-known entrances to the tunnels used by Hezbollah. Of course, this will cost Israel very dearly, but the game is worth the candle.

Probably, according to the military leadership of Israel, the future conflict with Lebanon should be a new war of a civilized state against savages, running into fighting technologies for high-tech armies of developed countries with armies and armed formations of the third world.

TACTICS OF COMBAT ACTIONS OF THE “PARTY OF ALLAH”

And what can the Hezbollah fighters - the “Party of Allah” oppose to similar tactics? If the Hezbollah command cannot deliver quick fire strikes to the enemy, with immediate withdrawal, then the Spike and Tamuz fire weapons will not leave them a chance. If they do not reconsider their tactics, they will undoubtedly be crushed, but there is always opposition to every weapon and tactic.

Hezbollah will surely use the tactics of an unlimited mine war with the use of a large number of predetermined controlled land mines. The IDF units in any case will move along the roads and therefore the losses from the mine war will not be avoided. For Hezbollah fighters, the importance of reconnaissance, camouflage and imitation of false positions, weapons and equipment models soars up to heaven. But the main thing that will probably be opposed to the high-tech army of Israel is the ability of small groups of personnel to fight with complete autonomy and the ability to conduct long-term hostilities in a completely destroyed infrastructure or in its absence, as the Taliban in Afghanistan does.

For both sides of the conflict, the importance of the sniper war also increases. Rifles to destroy material targets (unarmored and lightly armored vehicles, airplanes, helicopters, communications equipment, and others), caliber 50 BMG and higher, can play a significant role in the likely conflict. The presence of a large number of sniper weapons in the mountainous and wooded areas of the Hezbollah fighters can severely constrain the actions of the Israeli units.

Possible scenario of new confrontation"Hyena" in Israel scare disobedient children.

With the well-known tactics of Hezbollah to act by a large number of small detachments, there may be a shortage of effective and high-precision, but costly Tamuz and Spikes. Probably, the Israeli army can also face Hezbollah’s mortar calculations, especially in difficult terrain, where targets can be quickly introduced with the help of benchmarks created.

In addition, on the side of Hezbollah there is a tactical advantage due to the fact that its fighters are not afraid to act in small groups. Israelis are unlikely to be able to adhere to this tactic, except that only special forces and only at night. In this regard, there are risks of imposing night fights on the IDF in unfamiliar for Israelis and the targeted area. The French have faced similar tactics in Afghanistan, which even the new set of the “soldier of the future” - FELIN - did not help. The whole world went around the video, where the Mujahideen posed for their latest equipment.

If Israel in the future conflict cannot completely destroy all the military units and the Hezbollah structure, then this organization will later become the most significant military force in the Middle East. Already today, thanks to its social institutions and material support of the population, it enjoys the great support of the Shiite community of Lebanon. There are a great many people who want to join the ranks of this organization and fight with Israel. Due to their harsh selection to their ranks, the Hezbollah fighters are characterized by strong morale and willingness to die, and fighting with fanatics is always difficult, especially if they are well armed.

HESBOLLAH STRUCTURE

What is Hezbollah now? The Party of Allah operates not only in Lebanon, but also in many key regions of the world. In Lebanon, its main base areas are located in the Bekaa Valley, Al-Janub Province (South Lebanon), in western Beirut and its southern suburbs. There are cells in South America, Indonesia, Malaysia, Canada, USA, Germany, England, Belgium. Hezbollah’s intelligence service manages television and radio broadcasts and the organization’s newspapers. Today it is the only public organization structure of Hezbollah. The remaining parts of the organization, at least internationally, are cells that are independent of each other. This is done to improve security so that one group does not have information about the operational task of another.

The military wing of Hezbollah is known as the Islamic Resistance Movement - similar to the name of Hamas. Before the second Lebanon war, there were 600 – 800 active fighters and 3 – 5 thousand reserves in the military wing of Hezbollah. Spetsnaz numbered about 300 – 400 people, these are mainly communications, intelligence, ATGM, MANPADS, snipers. Hezbollah’s powerful training center called Sheikh Abdullah is located in the Bekaa Valley and is also used by the Lebanese army. In total, in the military wing, according to media reports, there are 16 battalions for 252 man. Nine of them are motorized. Fighters of the regular Hezbollah military formations undergo military training under the leadership of units of the Iranian IRGC stationed on a permanent basis in Lebanon. In these units, Iranian instructors train recruits who later serve in the Hezbollah infantry and motorized battalions. In parallel, selected fighters with special physical and intellectual qualities. Of these, infantry commanders are trained, they go on reconnaissance, the SSO and the Hezbollah special security apparatus.

The special security apparatus (ASB), on the orders of the Mejlis al-Shura (Hezbollah High Council), performs percussion operations outside Lebanon at a high professional level. Personnel for special operations forces are recruited from intelligence units, these people are considered to be seriously prepared and ready to die in order to accomplish the task. Most of them come from such organizations as Force 17, PFLP and other Arab and Islamist organizations that have ceased their activities. All special operations Hezbollah deals with the CRS. The members of foreign cells actively study the countries and languages ​​of the countries in which they are to perform their tasks. When penetrating into Israel, members of the ASB use documents, uniforms, weapons and equipment of Israelis, speak Hebrew, study the Talmud, are well versed in Israeli cuisine.

Members of special penetration squads and suicide squads differ in uniform: “Penetration squads” are painted by Pakistani, Israeli and other armies, the jihad squad wear green and black clothes, they carry various types of explosives that are difficult to detect. The following “Jihad squads” are known: the Islamabuli Brigade (training and killing political figures), the Al-Quds Brigade (two companies of suicide bombers of 56 people); a company named Fadhi Shkaqi; A company named Ihye Ayash. Thanks to these units, Hezbollah has the ability to collect and analyze intelligence data, can plan and conduct special operations in various regions of the world, even in the United States.

The quality of Hezbollah’s military leadership can be illustrated by the biography of a man who led its military units and defeated the most up-to-date IDF. Imad Mugnii, an outstanding personality, a master of military affairs and special operations in any corner of the globe, headed the preparation, control and conduct of hostilities by Hezbollah in the second Lebanon war. Thanks to him, a system of bunkers for the storage and launch of missiles was built. During the war, on his orders, the missiles were transported not by road, which was monitored by the UAV and Israeli aircraft, but on ordinary donkeys. The Israeli military bitterly sneered on this occasion that they would have to destroy all donkeys in Lebanon in order to stop the supply of missiles. And on all donkeys "Tamuzov" is not enough.

"HYENA"

On the account of Imad Mugniy, who was called “Hyena” by Israeli and American special services, hundreds of special operations were carried out, many of which are now called “terrorist acts”. Here are some of them:

- 1983 year - the explosion of the US Embassy in Beirut (killed 63 person);
- 1983 year - the explosion of the embassies of France and the United States in Kuwait;
- 1983 year - an explosion of a truck loaded with explosives in Lebanon (241 US Marine and French paratroopers 58 died);
- 1984 year - the explosion of the US embassy in Beirut, the abduction of a CIA resident in Lebanon, the hijacking of a Kuwaiti passenger plane, the explosion of the Israeli cultural center in Beirut (85 people died);
- 1985 year - hijacking the plane, where the US Navy seals died, the murder of a Soviet diplomat and the seizure of two KGB officers as hostages;
- 2000 year - the abduction of Israeli soldiers, the abduction of the colonel of the Israel Defense Forces, having access to top secret documents, the organization of an attack on the American destroyer Cole;
- A series of terrorist attacks against the Taliban in Afghanistan, as well as support for the Northern Alliance against the Taliban;
- the invention of "live bombs" with shahid belts;
- successful opposition to the intelligence services of Pakistan, Libya, Turkey, Egypt and Saudi Arabia;
- the destruction of the Iraqi residency in Yemen;
- training of Chechen militants at Hezbollah bases in the first Chechen war;
- Numerous recruits of Israeli Arabs, Bedouins and Druzes;
- recruitment of UN soldiers in southern Lebanon, who blocked the supply of drugs to Israel, and even the abduction of Israeli soldiers.

The slogan "Hyenas": "Initiative - the main component of the terrorist style."

After the 2006 war of the year, in order to restore its image, Israel urgently needed a successful special operation that could become a national myth. It was this operation that the Mossad spent on the February night of 2008. In one of the suburbs of Damascus, a car was blown up, in which Imad was with his deputy. Israel deprived Hamas of its fierce enemy with one blow and beheaded the Hezbollah army, destroying its commander. The representative of the US State Department, Sean McCormack, commented on the liquidation: “Without this man, the world has become better.” It is unlikely that his successor can replace the evil genius of a secret war, the creator of the first defeat of the Israeli army.

Recently, Hizbollah headquarters constantly conduct command and staff exercises for the management of detachments and groups in various combat deployment options. Since 2006, the Hezbollah Army has also advanced in its development, new types of weapons of Western, Chinese, Russian and Iranian production have appeared. In particular, EW, RES, UAV, MANPADS. Regular reorganization was carried out. New ground-to-ground missiles are now shooting through almost the entire territory of Israel. There are special forces. The total length of the tunnels created for defensive purposes in the area of ​​Ku Yachi, exceeded 170 km, depth - up to 40 meters, in three or four tiers. They are located barracks, warehouses and launchers.

Israel, in turn, began to create special units to fight in underground tunnels, actively exploring the Vietnamese experience of the struggle of Americans with underground partisans. In Vietnam, these units were called "tunnel rats." An underground city simulating a complex network of Hezbollah underground bunkers was built for training and practicing underground war tactics in northern Israel.

Hezbollah has already begun the mobilization of all those who previously participated in the battles with Israel, with Sunni groups and in other internal armed conflicts. The general grouping of Hezbollah is to reach 15 - 20 thousand people.

Since that time, Hezbollah has a new adversary - Palestinian Hamas, a former ally in the fight against Israel, whose leadership is currently working on Qatari money. Hezbollah leaders said that everyone belonging to Hamas must leave Lebanon. It is known that at present the fighters of the Hamas battalion of the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigade are training militants in Syria for operations against the government army of the SAR and the units of the All-Union Hezbollah. It can be concluded that Hezbollah is a serious adversary for the Jewish state.

Time will tell whether Israel will succeed in exterminating the sect of modern assassins, as the Mongols did in their time to Hulagu. History teaches that you can never discount the factor "C" - the very factor of chance.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 16 November 2013 07: 55 New
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    "IDF (Israel Defense Forces),"
    would write a direct army attack on neighbors, and not only stop
    1. Professor
      Professor 16 November 2013 09: 03 New
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      Quote: andrei332809
      would write a direct army attack on neighbors, and not only

      The joke is that the IDF did not start a single war. I can enlighten if they themselves are not able to figure it out. wink
      1. Very old
        Very old 16 November 2013 09: 21 New
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        Let it be to you, Oleg .. You always only invite to war, and this is cynicism, if not worse
        1. Professor
          Professor 16 November 2013 09: 31 New
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          Quote: Old very
          Let it be to you, Oleg .. You always only invite to war, and this is cynicism, if not worse

          Let it be to you. Israel makes painful concessions for the sake of peace with its neighbors and is very protective of this world. For example Egypt and Jordan. It somehow does not fit with the aggressive image of Israel.
          1. Valery Neonov
            Valery Neonov 16 November 2013 09: 58 New
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            Moses' Children Remind Patients with Persecution Mania[i] (a mental disorder whose sufferer is unreasonably convinced that a certain person or group of people is persecuting him: spies, torments, scoffs, plans to harm, rob or kill. Neighbors, colleagues, secret organization, government may act as persecutors etc. Delusional persecution often write a lot of complaints to different authorities.) [/ i]OR:
          2. Very old
            Very old 16 November 2013 14: 28 New
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            Well, yes, after we built settlements on foreign lands
            1. faraon
              faraon 17 November 2013 11: 14 New
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              Well, for example, they explained to you that the territory that you call occupied was seized during the war, which was not unleashed by Israel, but rather by an Arab circle in order to destroy Israel. So your statement is not valid regarding foreign lands. They are annexed on an official legal basis, in the process of war.
              1. Professor
                Professor 17 November 2013 11: 28 New
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                Quote: faraon
                they are officially legally annexed during the war.

                You are not quite right. Only the Golan Heights are annexed. The West Bank is occupied by Jordan, but it never wants to get it back.
                1. Saburov
                  Saburov 18 November 2013 00: 22 New
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                  The Palestinian land, which is now called Israel, is the most vile and cynical occupation, but you probably forgot the Professor about the Hannaneyev and Nabateev?
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 18 November 2013 10: 25 New
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                    Quote: Saburov
                    Yes, you probably forgot the Professor about the Hannaneyev and Nabateev?

                    I remember how you were going to defend with bonfires from the Tomahawks. wink

                    Palestinian land? Who are the Palestinians? Is there a Palestinian people with a Palestinian language, a Palestinian religion, or at least a Palestinian culture? There is no such people and there is no such thing as a "Palestinian land". So light fires and scare away Tomahawks with them. hi
                    1. Saburov
                      Saburov 19 November 2013 00: 24 New
                      +1
                      Well, if this happened then, then those who live in Israel cannot call themselves Jews, you look at their faces, and then compare them with real Jews Shostakovich, Rostropovich, Zaltsman, Ginsburg, Kio (Hirschfeld), Leonid Osipovich Utesov (Leyser Iosifovich Vaysbein), Bernes, Einstein, Gurevich, I can continue to flood you with lists, but this is not the point, but that supposedly Israelis who call themselves Jews are the same as Italians who consider themselves descendants of the Romans, Do not tell the dictator, my lip is cracked already.
                      1. Saburov
                        Saburov 19 November 2013 00: 31 New
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                        To the Son of Man, clothed in feast and girded with a golden belt on the Persians:
                        14 His head and hair are white as a white wave, like snow; and His eyes are like a flame of fire!
                        Well how? Do you argue with John the Theologian about Jews being Jews?
                      2. Saburov
                        Saburov 19 November 2013 00: 36 New
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                        So, we will begin consideration of some facts and references, both in the Bible itself and in various other sources that confirm the existence of the one we call Jesus Christ, the present of his life, and the place of his execution. For example, the Latin version of the 15th century Bible contains references to the fact that Jesus was executed on the Bosphorus in the area where biblical Jerusalem was located: “Obadiah 1: 20 et transmigratio exercitus huius filiorum Israhel omnia Chananeorum usque ad Saraptham et transmigratio Hiero quatesite in bosom austri ... "

                        The Ostrog Bible preserved a description of the weather of the area in which Jerusalem was supposedly located, and it has nothing to do with the desert climate of today's Jerusalem. It talks about cold, rainy and snowy weather! Under Empress Catherine they removed it and wrote that it was just very cold. And then they completely removed this paragraph.
                2. faraon
                  faraon 18 November 2013 14: 50 New
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                  Well, let's plunge into ancient history, remember the Pechenegs, Incas, etc. etc. We consider the topic of recent history, and not the campaign of Alexander the Great.
            2. Shur
              Shur 17 November 2013 22: 52 New
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              A good option .. They fought and took. OK by the way.
    2. catapractic
      catapractic 16 November 2013 11: 30 New
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      why should he understand - Israel is to blame a priori because exists in spite of neighbors and Islamists
      1. Sergey_K
        Sergey_K 17 November 2013 17: 13 New
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        I will support. Moreover, I dream of the same cohesion of my country.
      2. Shur
        Shur 17 November 2013 22: 59 New
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        Come on. What else would they do there? The Arab countries themselves did not intend to proclaim the Palestinian Authority. Who was stopping them? Instead, they turned the Palestinians into a combat outpost and more. Not good, not brotherly. Here is the west of the Poles, and now ukrov sculpts our enemy. Israel, of course, was born very hard, but initially it did not attack its neighbors. Now they have a lot of blood on their hands, and it just doesn’t go away. The blood she returns. And where is the UN, are there helmets different? Now, no way, like in Kosovo?
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 16 November 2013 16: 26 New
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      Quote: Professor
      Quote: andrei332809
      would write a direct army attack on neighbors, and not only

      The joke is that the IDF did not start a single war. I can enlighten if they themselves are not able to figure it out. wink


      And the second joke is that, having a leash of defense arimi, Israel occupied the territory ten times more than the original ... So how do you understand this?
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 17: 48 New
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: Geisenberg

        And the second joke is that, having a leash of defense arimi, Israel occupied the territory ten times more than the original ... So how do you understand this?

        what is now the territory of Israel? 140 thousand sq / km?
        1. Bagatur
          Bagatur 16 November 2013 18: 26 New
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          Where did the 140 000 come from ??? Total 20 700 sq. Km. and that’s it all ... The problems from the 8 000 000 people -1 600 000 Arabians were torn apart, there’s nowhere to send. After 30 years, the Arab will be no less than the Jews and there will be interesting times ... Israel will destroy demography, it will explode from the inside ...
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 16 November 2013 21: 28 New
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            The birth rate in the Israeli Arabs is not like in countries such as Egypt, but is approximately equal to the birth rate among Jews.
        2. Current 72
          Current 72 17 November 2013 02: 11 New
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          According to the UN decision, Israel was allocated 14000 sq. Km of Palestinian territory, and now Israel occupies 28000 sq. Km .. Draw your own conclusions. And my conclusion is that Israel is an aggressor and does not want peaceful coexistence with its neighbors, like the United States, in view of its exclusivity.
          1. faraon
            faraon 17 November 2013 11: 32 New
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            .And my conclusion is that Israel is an aggressor and does not want peaceful coexistence with its neighbors, like the United States, in view of its exceptional character.

            Well, of course, Israel is digging tunnels with the purpose of penetration and deversions on the territory of a foreign state, Israel is blowing up Palestinian buses with children and civilians, Israel is launching kasam bombardments on the civilian population of the Palestinian Authority, and the Gaza Strip.
            And the fact that Israel could stop all this at the touch of a button doesn’t occur to anyone. But on the contrary, it is trying to reach an agreement, starts some kind of peaceful negotiations, makes painful territorial concessions, frees prisoners who, according to the laws of the Russian Federation, would be ignorant of goodwill, is it somehow not noticeable?
            1. tenere1200
              tenere1200 17 November 2013 12: 23 New
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              And periodically deals air strikes in Syria. Also purely for peaceful purposes. Tormented by pain and bomb ...
            2. Shur
              Shur 17 November 2013 23: 11 New
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              Yes, it’s not like they are rotting.
          2. Sergey_K
            Sergey_K 17 November 2013 17: 19 New
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            By decision of Hitler, the United States, NATO and others, Russia should be a maximum of 3 million and within the Moscow region. Nevertheless, now Russia is 17 098 246 km².

            This is called the struggle for existence. Local Arabs need to develop science, society and so on, and not push their girls into burning houses back according to their fascist religion.

            In general, I have to pump up on Israel, but not to admit that they are well done and scattered all around stupidly.
      2. Bagatur
        Bagatur 16 November 2013 18: 20 New
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        If not support from the United States is diplomatic, military, (3 billion US dollars per year), etc. Now neither Israel nor the IDF were beaten ... in fact, this is an 52 shield, but ... not far from the truth are those They say - Jewish Lobby rules the United States in an interest in Israel ... Why did it get so ... I don’t mind the existence of Israel, but I don’t think that it can be held long even with the United States behind if it establishes relations with a neighbor. But ... is unlikely to happen soon ...
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 16 November 2013 21: 31 New
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        Quote: Geisenberg
        And the second joke is that, having a leash of defense arimi, Israel occupied the territory ten times more than the original ... So how do you understand this?

        Well, the joke is that Israel was not going to expand its territory until it was attacked. By the way, did the state of Palestine arise from 1948 to 1967 in the territory of the Arabs?
      4. Professor
        Professor 17 November 2013 11: 29 New
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        Quote: Geisenberg
        So how do you understand this?

        Although the numbers are not correct, it’s easy to understand: they attacked and raked in full, but now they’re crying ...
      5. Hug
        Hug 17 November 2013 15: 45 New
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        Quote: Geisenberg
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: andrei332809
        would write a direct army attack on neighbors, and not only

        The joke is that the IDF did not start a single war. I can enlighten if they themselves are not able to figure it out. wink


        And the second joke is that, having a leash of defense arimi, Israel occupied the territory ten times more than the original ... So how do you understand this?


        And this must be understood in the same way as the fact that Russia in "defensive wars" expanded its territory from the size of a small Moscow principality to 1/6 terrestrial land.
        1. Hug
          Hug 17 November 2013 15: 53 New
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          Actually, it's time for Israel to send on .... all the cries of the "world-loving and progressive public" and deal with Hezbollah, and Hamas, and other national liberation terrorists, so beloved in Russia.
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 17 November 2013 18: 37 New
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            Quote: Kram
            Actually, it's time for Israel to send on .... all the cries of the "world-loving and progressive public" and deal with Hezbollah, and Hamas, and other national liberation terrorists, so beloved in Russia.

            "-" I put it. I will not say that with joy, but looking at the "flag of Fritzland" to the indigenous people of which, I have great respect, I have several questions.
            1. A long time in Bundasia.
            2. Citizenship is already there.
            3. Something about the denazification of Germans is known to you personally.
            4. A Jew who has learned about the preferences of this nation in a specifically selected country from fellow tribesmen.

            Threat. In PM, I’m ready to justify each of the questions, and at the same time fill up with links (only on the forum) on all the questions you asked.
          2. Shur
            Shur 17 November 2013 23: 26 New
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            At the same time, will the Saudis deal with the sponsors (and now allies) of international terror? But what, "those" are not "these". No need to mix, everything is mixed there. There are no "favorites" in Russia. The Wahhabis are still friends of Israel. Roughly like Europeans are "friends" of Russia.
        2. Shur
          Shur 17 November 2013 23: 21 New
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          Not everything with this is so simple and obvious. Are you so sure that these territories were not Slavic? And then, how many Slavic lands are Europeans trampling? Say Germany? Also defended when the Slavic Slavs were mowed down? This is hardly comparable. Comparison of incomparable examples.
    4. Misantrop
      Misantrop 16 November 2013 17: 55 New
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      Quote: Professor
      IDF did not start a single war.
      Is it difficult to buy a few morons so that they from scratch blind the conflict? .. wink And then you can hammer with all your might, while being "in white clothes" ... request
      1. faraon
        faraon 17 November 2013 11: 52 New
        -4
        Is it difficult to buy a few idiots so that they blinded the conflict from scratch? .. wink And then you can hammer with all your might, while being "in white clothes".

        It’s not difficult to buy, but is it worth it? Yes, and why is this a headache, here you have enough conflict situations, without any purchases
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 17 November 2013 17: 40 New
          0
          Quote: faraon
          It’s not difficult to buy, but is it worth it?

          “If I had not only will, but also power, I would pick up a group of strong young people ... The task of these young people would be to disguise themselves as non-Jews and, using brutal anti-Semitism, to persecute ... Jews with anti-Semitic slogans.

          I can guarantee that the results, from the point of view of a significant influx of immigrants to Israel from these countries, would be ten times greater than the results achieved by thousands of emissaries by reading fruitless sermons. "
          Whose words do you remember? Ben Gurion, one of the founding fathers of Israel.
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 17 November 2013 19: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            “If I had not only will, but also power, I would pick up a group of strong young people ... The task of these young people would be to disguise themselves as non-Jews and, pursuing brutal anti-Semitism, to persecute ...

            Oppochki .....
            I go to the site on occasion to read the news and talk to the ONE MIND. And every time I see, let's say, "opponents" with more curly and beautiful, albeit "fufly", but shoulder straps. Otkel, I think ...
            I recently realized.
            You press the "Home" button, you look in the "footer" of the page. There is a list of those present and registered. Choose the "least known" nickname, open the profile - 0 messages. You compare it with what you saw on a specific page, with what you saw an hour ago and what happened to the "voting" now - the page where everyone is flaunting "minuses" ...
            Sorry, interrupted, phoned .......

            Shl. What about the answer to the question in PM? Or "at a crossroads"? hi
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 17 November 2013 19: 32 New
              0
              Quote: Ptah
              Shl. What about the answer to the question in PM? Or "at a crossroads"?

              Claims did not understand. In a personal answer about an hour and a half ago. hi
              1. Ptah
                Ptah 17 November 2013 23: 21 New
                +1
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                In a personal answer about an hour and a half ago.

                It's empty. Has my little letter arrived?
                What are some thoughts about what you read?
                What do we have to say about the "mental state" of the POIENT?
                To treat, or, shoot arrow.?
                Can we coordinate actions and "get under the skin" "curable"?
                A moderation of VO will skip the Old, albeit partly dosed.
    5. APES
      APES 16 November 2013 19: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: Professor
      that the IDF did not start a single war.


      she cannot, since she is only a tool
    6. Shur
      Shur 17 November 2013 22: 51 New
      0
      And what is it, even if it was unleashed, do you have the doctrine of preventive war?
  2. dmitrich
    dmitrich 16 November 2013 09: 40 New
    11
    but the Jews did not try to behave more modestly.
    1. catapractic
      catapractic 16 November 2013 11: 42 New
      -2
      modesty brings to the Holocaust
      1. Orik
        Orik 16 November 2013 13: 42 New
        19
        Yes, only Satan’s pride can be used as a knife for 1,5 million of their conspirators, as the Rothschilds and Rockefellers did with the hands of the Nazis, to create the state of Israel with further genocide of the Palestinians.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 16 November 2013 12: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: Dmitry
      but the Jews did not try to behave more modestly.

      That is, to sit down and wait quietly until someone kills them out of pity?
      1. dmitrich
        dmitrich 16 November 2013 13: 56 New
        14
        yes just live!
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 16 November 2013 14: 32 New
          14
          Sorry to interfere. They will not be able to simply live. First of all. Israel was created in Arab territories. They will never be forgiven. This is how Western Ukraine hates the "occupation" of the USSR. Or how the Poles hate Russia, because Russia has always defeated any Polish aggression. Secondly. There is no smoke without fire. It was the Sinai sages who created the "Protocols of the Sinai Sages", which clearly states how the Jews must become the dominant nation and destroy most of the world's population. And turn the rest into slaves!
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 16 November 2013 21: 34 New
            -7
            Quote: Алексей_К
            It was the Sinai sages who created the "Protocols of the Sinai Sages"

            WHAT ???? 8))) What kind of nonsense do you have in your head?
      2. 31231
        31231 17 November 2013 00: 14 New
        +2
        well, at least not tell tales about the bombed weapons for Hezbollah in Syria.
    3. Misantrop
      Misantrop 16 November 2013 17: 57 New
      20
      Quote: Dmitry
      but the Jews did not try to behave more modestly
      Have tried. Dramatically impoverished. Did not like... request
      1. crisis
        crisis 16 November 2013 21: 04 New
        0
        bred i xernya
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 16 November 2013 21: 35 New
        -5
        Quote: Misantrop
        Have tried. Dramatically impoverished. Did not like...

        That is, the Jews were all very rich 8) Fine.
    4. faraon
      faraon 17 November 2013 11: 59 New
      -1
      but the Jews did not try to behave more modestly.

      They tried and still try, but with each subsequent concession the appetite of the Palestinian side is becoming more and more, the demands put forward do not correspond to the solution of the problem of the world
  3. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 November 2013 11: 00 New
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    Hezbollah has already begun the mobilization of all those who previously participated in the battles with Israel, with Sunni groups and in other internal armed conflicts. The general grouping of Hezbollah is to reach 15 - 20 thousand people.
    They are the only ones who understood where the "aspen's nest" is .. The Syrians know it too!
    1. WASABI
      WASABI 16 November 2013 11: 47 New
      10
      Quote: MIKHAN
      They are the only ones who understood where the "aspen's nest" is .. The Syrians know it too!

      They are not the only ones (and we know about this), but they act more radically!
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 16 November 2013 16: 46 New
        +5
        How they fell upon you, Sveta (see below). All kagalom.
        One weak woman. Where are all our men? Or "Shabbat" too? Let's see what happens in the evening, one of the "annoying boyfriends" has already gone off -
        Quote: atalef
        Therefore, I’ll just bring you to the emergency situation, so as not to see all that stupid abomination which is rushing among you.

        Then what is so actively molested? He coquettishly begged for what he finally received.
        Another began to habitually "play role-playing games." He took on the image of either an "investigator", or a directly naive young man who is keenly interested in the opposite sex -
        Quote: Pimply
        Have you seen how lions eat? Are you a zoologist?

        Well, this can still be understood - interest in a woman. But the fact is that he pesters everyone like that.
        The third, who is the "consultant" here, has enlightened us on the latest unpublished facts. If this is humor, then it is quite in style, and if a slip of the tongue, then "according to Freud."
        Quote: Professor
        All the blood on matzo was gone. We are waiting for a new batch of babies.


        The rest were also noted.
        And it does you the honor that you did not "get into the pose" of making excuses and left on time!
        Bravo, Svetlana! hi love
      2. crisis
        crisis 16 November 2013 21: 05 New
        0
        aga i toje konechno znaesh)
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 16 November 2013 12: 23 New
      -20 qualifying.
      Quote: MIKHAN
      They are the only ones who understood where the "aspen's nest" is .. The Syrians know it too!
      Do you support terrorists, as I understand it?
      1. dmitrich
        dmitrich 16 November 2013 13: 58 New
        +6
        so I say live and let your neighbors live in peace.
      2. e3tozy
        e3tozy 16 November 2013 19: 19 New
        10
        So in Syria, too, terrorists act, detonate, slaughter women and children, but you bless them and arm them, and you have never condemned the attacks that were mainly directed against the same women and children, neither you nor the West. It turns out if you are doing badly, this is disgusting, and if your fosterlings are being cut by entire settlements, then this is the correct violence. What goes around comes around.
        1. faraon
          faraon 17 November 2013 12: 29 New
          -3
          See, Syria is another state, besides not signing a peace treaty with Israel, not recognizing this state as such. Why should Israel get into clan clashes in Syria’s internal affairs? And so the Syrian side does not creep into Israel’s domestic policy does not support but also does not condemn.

          As far as fosterlings are concerned, it is more likely to refer to Turkey, there are terrorist training camps there, where they receive the blessing of imams, they also receive weapons for the most part of the Russian standard, from there they go to the war in Syria, as for Israel, you in vain cast a shadow over the wattle fence This is not characteristic of a small state that is fighting terror on its territory to train terrorists to destroy themselves first and foremost. So address this question to the Arab countries.
          1. Shur
            Shur 17 November 2013 23: 33 New
            +1
            Listen, how do Israeli products get to the militants in Syria? Full of video with such. It’s just not clear why not Turkish .. Do you also treat them for some reason?
            1. wanderer
              wanderer 18 November 2013 00: 03 New
              0
              I don’t know about the products, I haven’t seen them, but yes, we are treating the wounded. Their UN
              They bring them to the border, and they themselves come too, so what do you order to do with them-leave them to die at the border, so then the whole world will take such a high !!! Here we are treating.
            2. faraon
              faraon 18 November 2013 04: 49 New
              +2
              As for the treatment, the stranger answered you, but as for the products, I will answer you. The point is that the real Muslim will not eat ordinary food, there is the concept of halal (kosher). In this case, Turkey is a secular state, and the food of the Turks does not quite meet the requirements halalities (kosher, ritual purity), therefore, products manufactured in Israel are purchased in such a way as they meet all the requirements of the Muslim faith. Products do not have to be purchased in Israel, they are exported all over the world. As an example, I can say that I met food produced in Rostov Israel. Like milk and meat.
      3. APES
        APES 16 November 2013 20: 02 New
        +7
        Quote: Pimply
        Do you support terrorists, as I understand it?


        I understand you too?
      4. Andrew 447
        Andrew 447 16 November 2013 23: 25 New
        +4
        Terrorists are supported by your old star-striped patrons and new business partners from Saudi princes
      5. tenere1200
        tenere1200 17 November 2013 12: 51 New
        +5
        as you know, mattress covers support al-Qaeda. And Israel for one with mattress covers. So who supports whom? In my opinion, D. Kerry said that al-Qaeda or some other terrorist organization would come to power in Syria, if only Assad would leave. If the fucking UN did not recognize this or that group as terrorist, this does not mean that it is a priori peaceful.
  4. timer
    timer 16 November 2013 21: 30 New
    +1
    Senator Cato often ended his speech in the Senate with one phrase-Carthage must be destroyed. So, by analogy with Cato, I write-Israel must be destroyed! Israel is an artificially created state on the land originally belonging to the Arabs. Zionists-Jews should not have your own state! With regards to the article, thanks to the author (I rarely do this). I am very interested in Hezbollah (history, tactics of operations, leaders). It can be used to create an effective additional tool for conducting and protecting Russia's global interests. (Also punishing opponents, not directly participating in this). As the saying goes wedge wedge wedge. If the United States raised al-Qaeda and uses it as a diamond, we will strengthen Hezbollah and raise a crowbar. And as you know, there is no trick against scrap.
    1. zasxdcfvv
      zasxdcfvv 17 November 2013 02: 52 New
      +1
      Jews themselves Arabs, for some came up with a torus, for others, the Koran
      1. Shur
        Shur 17 November 2013 23: 35 New
        0
        Yes, by blood, the rest is completely in no way.
    2. Ptah
      Ptah 17 November 2013 15: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: timer
      I am very interested in Hezbollah (history, tactics of operations, leaders). It can create an effective additional tool for conducting and protecting Russia's global interests (as well as punishing opponents without directly participating in this).


      "timer", as I understand it, is translated from the Tatar "iron".
      An interesting remark. In more detail, how can the "activities" of the bearded be directed "in the interests of Russia," which has recently grabbed all the "charms" of radical Islam on its territory?

      Threat. I was born in Tatarstan and came there last August. Visited by the Bulgar family.
      1. Shur
        Shur 17 November 2013 23: 44 New
        +2
        Hello fellow countryman. How, how-to cut beards for wool :))) In general, this is a serious problem. In Tatarstan and Bashkiria in particular. When I was here, I remember they promised to start hanging Russians on poles. Once one classmate warned that I speak a lot for "imposing the Tatar language", said, "Your tongue will be cut off." Now there are a lot of "true" ones, they have moved around the villages so far. I understand that the authorities are flirting, but in vain, I think they will be the first to punish them on occasion. Stressful as it all is.
    3. faraon
      faraon 17 November 2013 15: 34 New
      -3
      Well, for starters, learn History or take an interest in material related to this topic.
      Look, so that your interest does not develop into a national catastrophe for the Russian-speaking population of the country, Moscow is already half Muslim, in the primitive Christian power where the national religion is proclaimed, Muslim holidays are celebrated, Friday prayers are held, with calls for world jihad, mosques are being built.
      The situation is explosive, so think about your proposal for monoculturism, Europe has already become disillusioned with this idea.
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    5. Ptah
      Ptah 17 November 2013 23: 48 New
      -1
      Quote: faraon
      Your interest has not grown into a national catastrophe for the Russian-speaking population of the country, Moscow is already half Muslim, in the first Christian state, where the national religion is proclaimed, Muslim holidays are celebrated, Friday prayers are held, calls for world jihad, mosques are being built.

      If you don't mind, compatriot-Tatar, we can pull up the tongue of this liquid red, who has the courage to interfere with the representatives of the INDIGENOUS NATIONS of the Russian Empire in the conversation about the topics that directly sway those who did not tick off the "tasty German sausage" in the 90s. And not transporting their "red tusks" in the * opera of their lame-assed wives through the Vienna customs, "loyally" referring to the "victims of kui-understand-when the repressions ended"?
    6. Revolver
      Revolver 18 November 2013 23: 48 New
      -1
      Quote: timer
      Israel must be destroyed! Israel is an artificially created state, on the earth originally belonged to the Arabs. Jewish Zionists should not have their own state

      What, in the mosque heard such nonsense? Or from the last Hitler?
  • sashka
    sashka 16 November 2013 08: 08 New
    +5
    During the Second World War, our partisans did the same. And they were Heroes. I do not condone these hoops. It’s necessary to kill or lose ALL of them. Only two options. Stalin understood this.
    1. Professor
      Professor 16 November 2013 09: 04 New
      13
      Quote: Sasha
      During the Second World War, our partisans did the same. And they were Heroes.

      No, they didn’t. Schools with children were not captured and children were not cut out.
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        1. Professor
          Professor 16 November 2013 09: 43 New
          -6
          Quote: Dmitry
          but didn’t the children die in Palestine?

          What kind of Palestine is this? Mandated? Since it is here that the Arabs slaughter children.
          1. Orik
            Orik 16 November 2013 11: 21 New
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            Well, another example.
            The most terrible fate befell the village of Deir Yassin. On the early morning of April 9, 1948, its civilians were attacked by troops of Irgun and the Stern group. Faced with an unexpectedly sharp rebuff from the Arabs and suffered losses, the Irgunovites and Sternists, who were little prepared for an open battle with the enemy, began to use the methods of terror that were more familiar to them, destroying in the most cruel way all who came to hand. Neither the elderly, nor children, nor pregnant women were spared. Eyewitnesses spoke of executions of entire families, of monstrous acts of violence and mockery of completely defenseless people. About 250 residents of Deir Yassin died that day, 150 prisoners were loaded onto trucks and transported through the Jewish quarters of Jerusalem to insulting shouts and spitting of the gathered crowd.

            And the result.
            The total number of Palestinian refugees between 1947 and 1949 was approximately 750.

            Until 1948, less than 10% of the lands of Mandatory Palestine were in the hands of the Jewish community, today 93% of all land is in the hands of a state declaring itself Jewish. Currently, Arab citizens own 3,5% of the land and are effectively deprived of the right to purchase or rent 80% of the land in the country.

            In total, 11 Arab cities and 450 Arab villages were destroyed.

            http://www.proza.ru/2012/10/01/1858
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 11: 36 New
              -9
              Quote: Orik
              .
              Will I be very disappointed if, together, that even the Palestinians no longer use this myth? The loss of civilian life in Deir Yassin was similar to the loss of any civilian population during street fighting. Alas, even the Arabs recognized this for you.
              1. Orik
                Orik 16 November 2013 12: 09 New
                20
                No, do not grieve the village of Deir Yassin, one of the many episodes of terror and the expulsion of Palestinians. http://doskado.ucoz.ru/publ/7-1-0-136
                1. crisis
                  crisis 16 November 2013 17: 47 New
                  -6
                  ti za svoi derevni povolnyisya snachala))
                  1. aksakal
                    aksakal 16 November 2013 18: 22 New
                    13
                    Quote: crisis
                    ti za svoi derevni povolnyisya snachala))

                    He will take care of his villages, only you, your fellow tribesmen from Russia (they often walk brazenly in your deserts like that in your country), convince them to return their Russian wealth to Russians, then maybe they will take care of their villages, and you will not climb.
                    I will say this - your greed will destroy you. The more your fellow tribesmen will pull back with the return of what they stole with the help of the "red-haired Jew" himself in the 90s, the worse it will be with this in white, and even you will get it for firewood. And for a sweet tooth, they can still raise the question of the ethnic genocide of Russians in the dashing years of the October Revolution. The Russians can ask harshly for their tsar - after all, Yurovsky, Goloshchekin and other valiant executioners - gentlemen are not at all Russian, but the tsar Russian without any regret they shot them. So the demand will be very tough. Meanwhile, it is very simple to evade responsibility - to return all the stolen Norilsk Nickels as a gesture of goodwill and not go there again.
                    So, good sir, you can't send "to your villages". It was your people who burst in without permission, took away, robbed, otgenocidil and generally raped! am Better get ready, the boiler is already boiling.
              2. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K 16 November 2013 14: 46 New
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                Jews turn everything inside out. They called themselves God's chosen. That's for sure, God looked, looked at the Jewish perverts and began to teach them to the mind, but to no purpose. Moses 40 years led the people in the Sinai desert in order to find God and all to no purpose. This desert can be walked in a week. Then God sent Jesus to the Jews. So they crucified him - the Nazis. God chose you to make PEOPLE, to correct you. But you, like idiots, didn’t understand anything in your life!
                1. atalef
                  atalef 16 November 2013 14: 56 New
                  -5
                  Quote: Алексей_К
                  Jews turn everything inside out. They called themselves God's chosen

                  Well, the Jews chosen here are exclusively Russians. there’s no such thing as us

                  Quote: Алексей_К
                  God looked, looked at Jewish perverts and began to teach them to the mind, but to no purpose

                  Who are you talking about?
                  Quote: Алексей_К
                  . You can walk this desert in a week.

                  Here I am about that. in 40 years, Moses could have even reached Switzerland. Oh, sorry GLONASS was not, although it is not known where he would lead with him

                  Quote: Алексей_К
                  . So they crucified him - fascists

                  And here you are right. fascism originated in Italy

                  Quote: Алексей_К
                  God chose you to make PEOPLE, to correct you. But you, like idiots, didn’t understand anything in your life!

                  Well, thanks milaaaay, enlightened. father - dear father laughing
                  1. 3.7.964
                    3.7.964 16 November 2013 21: 45 New
                    12
                    Quote: atalef
                    Well, the Jews chosen here are exclusively Russians. there’s no such thing as us

                    Itit-pound, the whole "gang" is assembled. Why are you ashamed to say that at that time you yourself lived in the USSR. He worked "for that guy", took part in subbotniks, shouted loudest at the shop meetings, accusing Zionism, as he could hide his Jewishness. And after all, he was not eager to go to Israel, while there, in the USSR, you were well fed. But as soon as the "sausage" was over there, he instantly came to Israel and became a fiery Zionist.
                    1. Sax
                      Sax 6 December 2013 00: 00 New
                      0
                      Do not whistle, countryman, in the USSR there was never enough sausage when. I lived there for 36 years and I don’t remember abundance. smile
                2. crisis
                  crisis 16 November 2013 17: 46 New
                  -2
                  vidno ti parensmetlivii, vse sam ponyal))
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 16 November 2013 12: 29 New
              -5
              And did historians, not propogandists, read anything about Deir Yassin?

              And why don’t you remember, for example, 13 on April 1948, when Arab militants staged a bloody massacre of wounded and medical personnel in an attack on a medical convoy heading to the Hadassah hospital. 79 Jews were killed during the terrorist attack, 20 of them were women. Some of them were burned alive in ambulances and other vehicles. The bodies of the dead were so burned that only 31 of them were identified.

              Sharif Kanyana of the Palestinian University, Bir Zait, interviewed survivors and published data in 1988 that are currently recognized by the scientific community as authoritative: 107 people died, 12 wounded. Where is 250?
              Palestinian historian Arif al-Arif wrote in 1956 that he counted 117 killed, of which 7 was killed in battle, and 110 was killed in their homes. Where is 250?
              Israeli historian Uri Milstein calls the number 110 killed maximum. Where is 250?

              Hassan Nuseyba, who was an Arabic-language news editor in 1948 for a British radio station in Palestine, told the BBC television station about the situation in Deir Yassin. He said that he had asked Hussouin Khaledi (Secretary of the Higher Attestation Commission) how he would cover the story in Deir Yassin, to which Khaledi replied: “We need to make the most of it.” Therefore, Nuseyba and reported on the radio about the killing of children and rape of pregnant women in Deir Yassin. In the same broadcast, one of the villagers, Abu Mahmoud, said that the residents then protested: “We told them that there were no rapes.” Khalidi answered them: "We need this so that the Arab armies come and save us from the Jews."
              1. Orik
                Orik 16 November 2013 13: 30 New
                13
                If you are so smart, then you can compare the two numbers on April 9, 1948, the village of Deir Yassin, and on April 13, 1948, the answer on the convoy. Personally, I am against war with women and children, but "whoever sits the wind will reap buryu" or an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. It's the same with you. wink So you "reap" what you sowed yourself and there is no need to arrange gavalt.
                1. crisis
                  crisis 16 November 2013 17: 48 New
                  -1
                  da rysskie voiska toje bili protiv etogo v avganestane i vchechn'e)) wink
              2. catapractic
                catapractic 16 November 2013 18: 31 New
                0
                because it is not profitable and does not fit into their concept
            3. Professor
              Professor 16 November 2013 12: 43 New
              -6
              Quote: Orik
              The most terrible fate befell the village of Deir Yassin.

              This is how Arab propaganda played a cruel joke on them. When the war for independence began, the Arabs began to skitter without looking back, "so that they would not be cut out either." Those who were more literate stayed and live happily ever after. 20% of Israel's population is Arab.

              Do not tell me, do the victims of the "massacre" have names? Share with us pliz.
              1. Orik
                Orik 16 November 2013 13: 32 New
                10
                I understand that this is your "exclusive" right to propaganda and Gavalt, while others should be silent and not live like Palestinians.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 16 November 2013 17: 03 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Orik
                  I understand that this is your "exclusive" right to propaganda and Gavalt, while others should be silent and not live like Palestinians.

                  I repeat my question: can you provide a list of victims?
                  1. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 16 November 2013 18: 03 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Professor
                    can you provide a list of victims?
                    Do you need their home addresses and account numbers? wink
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 16 November 2013 18: 32 New
                      0
                      Quote: Misantrop
                      Do you need their home addresses and account numbers?

                      No, only names. For example, I can provide a list of Israelis who died since the formation of Israel and all Jews who lived in Israel since 1891.
                      1. Misantrop
                        Misantrop 16 November 2013 18: 40 New
                        +9
                        Quote: Professor
                        For example, I can provide a list of Israelis killed since the formation of Israel
                        I have no doubt that if you strain yourself, then a complete list of innocent Jews who have died since the appearance of this people will appear. Moreover - even with the addresses of their enemies and a short list of relatives. And also a list of all who specifically offended you (and what specifically) from the moment you were born to the present moment lol
                      2. Professor
                        Professor 16 November 2013 18: 42 New
                        -3
                        Quote: Misantrop
                        No doubt,

                        Glad you have no doubt. So who exactly died then? Did they have names?
                      3. Misantrop
                        Misantrop 16 November 2013 18: 59 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Professor
                        who exactly died then? Did they have names?
                        Have you often had to interview the victims to determine their names and place of residence? And what did they answer? Just in case, a passport with a residence permit is neither a nose nor a leg, it does not grow on the body request
                      4. Professor
                        Professor 16 November 2013 19: 08 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Misantrop
                        Have you often had to interview the victims to determine their names and place of residence? And what did they answer? Just in case, a passport with a residence permit is neither a nose nor a leg, it does not grow on the body

                        The problem of establishing names really arises when whole villages or communities die. This may explain the difficulty of compiling a list of victims of the Holocaust by the Yad Vashem Institute. However, this is not the case here; most of the village seems to have survived and they could not forget the names of their relatives. You know that there lived one clan (hamula)?

                        I repeat my question: can you provide a list of victims?
                      5. Orik
                        Orik 16 November 2013 20: 37 New
                        +6
                        What are you up against with this list? Its presence or absence proves nothing. There are passages of memories.
                        On April 9, 1947, the militants Etzela and Lehi attacked Deir Yassin. In its cruelty, the fate of this village completely repeats the fate of the Belarusian Khatyn.
                        In 1947, the village of Deir Yassin was neutral, (Mukhtar, the village headman was an informant of Hagana), but this did not save her from destruction.
                        “There is evidence that the Lehi people offered to kill the villagers in order to intimidate the Arabs and raise the morale of the Jews (Uri Milstein). In preparation for the sweep, the fighters were taught to throw a grenade and comb the room with a machine gun before entering it.
                        Official Israeli propaganda never tires of calling the Deir Yassin massacre a battle. As a result of the battle, 5 Jewish militants and 254 villagers died.
                        “David Efrati and I drove a column to Deir Yassin. Stumbled upon the Arabs who went to work and fired at them (Shimon Monita - LECHI-1948).
                        “We blew up doors. They threw grenades inside and slashed everything with fire (Zalivansky, militant 'LYOKHI').
                        Explosives for the ETsEL platoon were brought from the Lehi warehouses. Then they started blowing up house after house. Houses fell on residents (Uri Milstein).
                        “We were moving from house to house. They threw grenades inside before they entered (Kalman Ruzenblat ETsEL).
                        “I saw people of ETSEL and LEKHI moving from house to house and shooting at everyone who was there; and there were mostly women, old people and children. They were killed in groups. They were driven into a corner of the room and released a line. The massacre in the villages lasted several hours
                        (Meer Pail - commander of the "Abraham" unit)
                        The "prudent" PALMACH men tried to hide the traces of the massacre. Shaltiel (the commander of the Etzioni brigade) sent Mordechai Gihon to Deir Yassin.

                        “They say that the massacre happened, if this is true, we want no corpses left.
                        “Before we even reached the village, we saw how the bodies were being dragged into the quarry. I said that you don’t need to throw bodies into pits and caves, because the first thing they will look for is there (Mordechai Gihon, intelligence officer of the Khagany).
                        “We entered the house, the furniture was broken, the blankets and cold bodies were cleaned with grenades, then with machine guns and ended with knives (Jean de Rainier, head of the Red Cross delegation in Jerusalem).

                        “In the career I saw five female bodies and two boys 13-14 years old - were shot. There are 25 bodies in a hollow, one on top of the other, children and women (Avigdori and Dorian - doctors of Sokhnut)
                        It was terrible. It was obvious that the attackers were moving from house to house and shooting at people from close range. I served in the German army for five years, 1914 - 1918, but did not see such a heavy sight. (Dr. Alfred Engel)
                        The events in Deir Yassin were "lucky", the whole world learned about them, and how many nameless Deir Yassins were there who became a mass grave for their inhabitants?
                      6. Professor
                        Professor 16 November 2013 21: 02 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Orik
                        What are you up against with this list? Its presence or absence proves nothing. There are passages of memories.

                        Firstly, you do not poke me as a young man. Secondly, was there a boy? 117 or 250 people were nameless? But were they at all?

                        PS
                        There are other memories:
                        LIES AND THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DEER YASIN BATTLE
                    2. Botanologist
                      Botanologist 17 November 2013 00: 07 New
                      +6
                      Quote: Professor
                      I repeat my question: can you provide a list of victims?


                      Are you ready to present a list of the victims of Assad's "bloody regime" in the current war, about which you tirelessly speak?
                    3. Professor
                      Professor 17 November 2013 10: 36 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Botanologist
                      Are you ready to present a list of the victims of Assad's "bloody regime" in the current war, about which you tirelessly speak?

                      When we are discussing the civil war in Syria or Somalia or we love another place discussed in the article, then we’ll talk about those lists. Here Israel is accused of massacre of 250 people (not even thousands and not hundreds of thousands) and can not bring a single name. It’s somehow alarming.
          2. AlexW
            AlexW 17 November 2013 12: 47 New
            +4
            but the list of all whom Moses drove through the wilderness is weak? fellow
        2. AlexW
          AlexW 17 November 2013 12: 45 New
          -1
          and shoe size ... each am
    2. crisis
      crisis 16 November 2013 17: 51 New
      0
      da da vovsem vinovati pindosi i jidi)) a mi takie gymannie i ochen ochen chelovekolybimie
      1. Professor
        Professor 16 November 2013 18: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: crisis
        da da vovsem vinovati pindosi i jidi)) a mi takie gymannie i ochen ochen chelovekolybimie

        use transliteration
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        1. builder
          builder 16 November 2013 18: 37 New
          0
          Quote: Professor
          use transliteration
          translit
          "+"
    3. catapractic
      catapractic 16 November 2013 18: 39 New
      +3
      and what are you doing not propaganda by accident? There are neither right nor guilty, and Soviet-Russian propaganda when it was beneficial for her to present these events in the light she needed. Under I.S. Stalin, the newspaper Pravda wrote about the heroism of the Israeli fighters, after his death under Khrushchev, when priorities shifted and Nasser became the ally of the story of Deir Yassin.
      1. Professor
        Professor 16 November 2013 18: 40 New
        -4
        Quote: cataphractium
        the story of Deir Yassin surfaced.

        Not a story, but a legend, an epic or even a fairy tale.
        1. catapractic
          catapractic 16 November 2013 18: 48 New
          +1
          perhaps I agree with the clarification, although there is no smoke without fire
        2. Orik
          Orik 16 November 2013 20: 45 New
          +8
          Stop squirming and lying, you cleared the land of Palestine with the help of terror, and after the creation of the state of Israel with the help of the state machine. They launched a terrorist war and now there is no need to kick the Arabs in retaliation.
          1. Professor
            Professor 16 November 2013 21: 10 New
            -2
            Quote: Orik
            Stop wriggling and lying

            I support, give facts and material evidence, names and surnames, and not excerpts from agitation!
          2. Orik
            Orik 16 November 2013 21: 52 New
            +7
            Amazed at your hypocrisy. Do not free the Soviet troops Khatyn, would there be an investigation? NO. Only the victory over Nazism made it possible to investigate this crime and restore the names of the victims. Palestine is captured by you, and then, after that, you demand a list of victims of your crimes from me? The winners write the story and they are not interested in the lists of their victims.
          3. Professor
            Professor 16 November 2013 22: 19 New
            -1
            Quote: Orik
            Amazed at your hypocrisy.

            I repeat for you as a last resort, you will poke mom and dad. That's clearer?
            Quote: Orik
            Palestine is captured by you, and then, after that, you demand a list of victims of your crimes from me?

            For those who are in the tank (in the figurative sense of the word). Judging by your fables, Jews slaughtered 250 Arabs (oddly enough, they called the Jews then Palestinians), the rest of the Arabs fled from the village to Jordan. And they still hide the names of their fallen tribesmen from their own hamula? You tell tales to children for the night, we do not need.

            PS
            Lists, material evidence, etc. will or will we confine ourselves to smearing snot on the cheeks?
          4. Xroft
            Xroft 17 November 2013 01: 09 New
            +4
            They showed you a map of Palestine and the expansion of Israel in Palestine. You answer it, and not jump on another topic.
            And then scratching your tongue without an answer, and in the style of your Jewish prove / show, you can forever. You have not yet answered one question.
          5. Professor
            Professor 17 November 2013 10: 42 New
            0
            Let's go in order. What is Palestine, where are its borders and where is its map?
            Let's discuss when the term Palestine was suddenly put into circulation at all and what was in the so-called occupied territories before 1967? Is it Palestine? Further, the Oslo agreements, "peace in exchange for territories", territories of A, BI and C. And then let's talk about this left card. How do you plan?
        3. tenere1200
          tenere1200 17 November 2013 13: 35 New
          +4
          Did you yourself the professor answered at least one question? All of course believe how a gang of Jewish militants, with the support of mattress mats with bouquets of flowers and kind words, ironed Palestine, knocking out the indigenous population from their own homes. Purely kind. And then, foaming at the mouth, proving to everyone that they drove the prisoners in trucks and released them. The answer is one - your state has occupied another state - and it lives there. So don't la la here. Mister "peace in exchange for territory"
        4. Professor
          Professor 17 November 2013 15: 28 New
          -2
          Quote: tenere1200
          Did you yourself at least answer one question?

          1. You are a young man do not poke adults.
          2. Ask a specific question, but I will try to answer.

          Quote: tenere1200
          The answer is one - your state has occupied another state - and lives there.

          What state did it occupy? wink
        5. tenere1200
          tenere1200 18 November 2013 02: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: tenere1200
          Did you yourself at least answer one question?

          1. You are a young man do not poke adults.
          2. Ask a specific question, but I will try to answer.

          Quote: tenere1200
          The answer is one - your state has occupied another state - and lives there.

          What state did it occupy? wink

          The Golan Heights were taken from Syria. And Palestine chopped off a piece. As a result of a preventive six-day war, with the support of mattresses, using adolf technology.
          What kind of youth am I? How old are you?
        6. Professor
          Professor 18 November 2013 10: 29 New
          -2
          Quote: tenere1200
          What kind of youth am I? How old are you?

          Are you also rude? Parents know that you post on adult forums? wink

          Quote: tenere1200
          And Palestine chopped off a piece.

          But is Palestine such a country? Where is its capital? Banknotes, etc. are there?
        7. tenere1200
          tenere1200 21 November 2013 22: 14 New
          -1
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: tenere1200
          What kind of youth am I? How old are you?

          Are you also rude? Parents know that you post on adult forums? wink

          Quote: tenere1200
          And Palestine chopped off a piece.

          But is Palestine such a country? Where is its capital? Banknotes, etc. are there?

          Listen, professor, what sciences are you professor? Finish answering the question with a question. And finish playing as a young man and a grandfather. I understand that with your "answers" you strive to pull the conversation to the level - when they get personal. It will not happen. I will repeat the question - how old are you yourself? I wrote - ask a question - I'll try to answer. So try. And then you are all clever - and not really answered a single question. Come on - soak something. In our opinion, in a professorial way. And I'm not being rude to you. There was no rudeness yet. Looks like you have nothing to oppose in the conversation - so you start to resent why they poke you.
          As for Palestine. Arabs settled there 1000 years ago. Or more. Of course there is no capital - what is the capital of autonomy? And the money of your country. But as far as I know there was an agreement that the territory is divided on equal terms. And then Israel, as a result of a 6-day war, grabbed Jerusalem. With the support of the mattresses of course.
          And sarcastically ask - "where is the capital in Palestine?" - it's like asking why Africa is so poor. So many minerals and diamonds - and they are in shit up to their ears.
        8. Professor
          Professor 21 November 2013 22: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: tenere1200
          Listen professor, what science professor are you?

          Young man, do not poke me. In one meadow geese were not grazed. am

          Quote: tenere1200
          I repeat the question - how old are you?

          300 (three hundred)

          Quote: tenere1200
          As for Palestine. Arabs settled there 1000 years ago. Or more.

          Or? Read Mark Twain about his travels to the Holy Land. He describes everything well. Or the biographer of Napoleon.

          Quote: tenere1200
          But as far as I know there was an agreement that the territory is divided on equal terms. And then Israel, as a result of a 6-day war, grabbed Jerusalem. With the support of the mattresses of course.

          I haven't met such ignorance for a long time. From whom did Jerusalem "seize", the Palestinians? Clue when the Arabs began to be called Palestinians, or guess yourself? That's right, in 1964. Before that, they were Syrians, Jordanians, etc.

          Quote: tenere1200
          With the support of the mattresses of course.

          I will arrange for you, young man educational program. You do not read books. Until 1967, the United States did not provide military assistance to Israel. Basically, all the weapons were French and British.

          Quote: tenere1200
          And sarcastically ask - "where is the capital in Palestine?"

          So. There is no such country as Palestine, there is no Palestinian people and, accordingly, Israel could not “chop off a piece” from them. The Jordanians and Egyptians could, but the "Palestinians" could not because of the lack thereof. fool
        9. tenere1200
          tenere1200 25 November 2013 23: 11 New
          -1
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: tenere1200
          Listen professor, what science professor are you?

          Young man, do not poke me. In one meadow geese were not grazed. am

          Quote: tenere1200
          I repeat the question - how old are you?

          300 (three hundred)


          Quote: tenere1200
          As for Palestine. Arabs settled there 1000 years ago. Or more.

          Or? Read Mark Twain about his travels to the Holy Land. He describes everything well. Or the biographer of Napoleon.

          Quote: tenere1200
          But as far as I know there was an agreement that the territory is divided on equal terms. And then Israel, as a result of a 6-day war, grabbed Jerusalem. With the support of the mattresses of course.

          I haven't met such ignorance for a long time. From whom did Jerusalem "seize", the Palestinians? Clue when the Arabs began to be called Palestinians, or guess yourself? That's right, in 1964. Before that, they were Syrians, Jordanians, etc.

          Quote: tenere1200
          With the support of the mattresses of course.

          I will arrange for you, young man educational program. You do not read books. Until 1967, the United States did not provide military assistance to Israel. Basically, all the weapons were French and British.

          Quote: tenere1200
          And sarcastically ask - "where is the capital in Palestine?"

          So. There is no such country as Palestine, there is no Palestinian people and, accordingly, Israel could not “chop off a piece” from them. The Jordanians and Egyptians could, but the "Palestinians" could not because of the lack thereof. fool

          I’m not a young man for you. Three hundred year old goose shepherd. (judging by your statements.) Let it be the Syrians and Jordanians. Who cares? Or will instead of mattresses be arrogant Saxons? Who cares ?
        10. Professor
          Professor 26 November 2013 14: 50 New
          0
          Quote: tenere1200
          I’m not a young man for you.

          Do not want to be a boy - be a girl.

          Quote: tenere1200
          Let it be the Syrians and Jordanians. Who cares?

          So not the Palestinians? Jordan and Egypt have no claims to Israel. hi
        11. tenere1200
          tenere1200 5 December 2013 22: 38 New
          0
          you know that madam - I look when the arguments end you start to grind completely nonsense? Well, go on. What do you want to lick - tongue stuck out?
        12. Professor
          Professor 5 December 2013 23: 05 New
          0
          Quote: tenere1200
          you know that madam - I look when the arguments end you start to grind completely nonsense? Well, go on. What do you want to lick - tongue stuck out?

          Girl, you decided to discuss my profile picture? Not capable of more? love
  • builder
    builder 17 November 2013 00: 03 New
    +3
    Not a fairy tale. The number of victims exaggerated (by the Jews themselves)
    Sharif Kanyana of the Palestinian University, Bir Zayt, interviewed survivors and in 1988 published data that are currently recognized by the scientific community as authoritative: 107 people died, 12 were injured.
    A Palestinian historian Arif al-Arif wrote in 1956 that he counted 117 killed, of which 7 were killed in battle, and 110 were killed in their homes.
    The units of the attackers suffered losses of 5 people killed and 50 people wounded with a total of 132 people.
    The leader of the operation, Ranaan, called the number of those killed 240 - by his own admission, with the aim of intimidating the Arabs. A similar figure - 254 killed - was called by the leaders of the Supreme Arab Committee, hoping to provoke a sense of revenge among the Arabs.
    Israeli historian Uri Milstein calls the figure 110 killed maximum.
    Kanyana writes that after the battle, 25 prisoners were executed and thrown into the quarry, Gelber believes these data are reliable. According to Gelber, the only alternative to executing prisoners would be to release them, since there was no way to keep an underground prisoner of war camp under the noses of the British authorities.
    1. faraon
      faraon 17 November 2013 15: 55 New
      +1
      Well then, if you are so advocating for the poor Arabs, let's remember for the Arab pogrom in Hebron, where they killed, raped, slaughtered the Jewish population, but you remembered for the village where it was killed net 100neto 200 people. So remember Hebron and condemn the Arabs or weakly .
    2. builder
      builder 17 November 2013 20: 03 New
      +1
      The atrocities of the Arabs do not justify the atrocities of the Jews and vice versa.
      (By the way, most Hebron Jews escaped from Arab families. The lists of Jews rescued by the Hebron Arabs are kept in the Central Zionist Archive; one of the lists contains 435 names of the rescued. 28 Arab families gave shelter to their Jewish neighbors, dozens of persecuted crowded into some houses.)
    3. faraon
      faraon 18 November 2013 05: 03 New
      +1
      Well, and who first began to commit atrocities You asked this question, the Jews fought with the military units of the Jordanian army, and not with the civilian population. You noted in your comment that 28 Arab families gave shelter to the Jews, so it is not so simple. The Jews lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors. But there were hot heads among Arabs, so do you think it is legitimate to sit and wait until your head is cut off, your children will be raped by your wife? Aggression breeds aggression.
    4. builder
      builder 18 November 2013 11: 09 New
      0
      I.
      Quote: faraon
      Well, and who first began to atrocities You asked this question

      1. Asked
      builder RU May 30, 2013 19:00 | The war in Syria - to be!
      The founders of the State of Israel - the leaders of the Irgun, Lehi, Haganah gangs Who launched the terrorist attacks is a big question.
      Date Occurrence
      April 20, 1936 2 Arabs killed on a banana plantation
      March, 1937 2 Arabs killed on the beach in Bat Yam
      April 12, 1938 2 Arabs and 2 British policemen died in a bomb explosion on a Haifa train.
      April 17, 1938 1 Arab was killed in a bomb in a cafe in Haifa
      May 17, 1938 An Arab policeman was killed in an attack on a bus on the Jerusalem-Hebron road.
      May 24, 1938 3 Arabs shot dead in Haifa.
      June 23, 1938 2 Arabs killed in Tel Aviv.
      June 26, 1938 7 Arabs died in a bombing in the city of Jaffa.
      June 27, 1938 One Arab was killed in the courtyard of Haifa Hospital.
      July 5, 1938 7 Arabs shot dead in Tel Aviv.
      July 5, 1938 3 Arabs killed in a bus bomb in Jerusalem.
      July 5, 1938 1 Arab shot dead in Jerusalem.
      July 6, 1938 18 Arabs and 5 Jews died as a result of the explosion of two bombs in a market in Haifa.
      July 8, 1938 4 Arabs died in a bombing in Jerusalem.
      July 16, 1938 10 Arabs died in a bomb blast on a market square in Jerusalem.
      July 25, 1938 53 Arabs died in a bomb explosion on a market square in Haifa.
      August 26, 1938 24 Arabs died in a bomb blast on a market square in Jaffa.
      February 27, 1939 33 Arabs killed in numerous attacks and explosions on this day
      May 29, 1939 5 Arabs killed in an explosion at a movie theater in Jerusalem.
      May 29, 1939 5 Arabs killed in an attack on a village.
      June 2, 1939 5 Arabs were killed in a bomb blast.
      June 12, 1939 A British sapper attempted to defuse a bomb at a post office in Jerusalem.
      June 16, 1939 6 Arabs killed in several attacks in Jerusalem.
      June 19, 1939 20 Arabs died in an explosion of a mined donkey in a market in Haifa.
      June 29, 1939 13 Arabs were shot dead as a result of several attacks in one hour.
      June 30, 1939 1 Arab killed in Jerusalem.
      June 30, 1939 2 Arabs were shot dead in a village near Jerusalem.
      July 3, 1939 1 Arab died in a bombing in Haifa.
      July 4, 1939 2 Arabs killed in Jerusalem.
      July 20, 1939 1 Arab killed at the train station in Jaffa.
      July 20, 1939 6 Arabs killed in several attacks in Tel Aviv.
      July 20, 1939 3 Arabs killed in Rehovot.
      On August 27, 1939, 2 British officers were killed in a mine explosion in Jerusalem. (The professor will ask for the names.)
      Quote: faraon
      .Jews lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors, but there were also hot heads among Arabs,

      2. Among the Jews, too, there were hot heads, and who started the terror is a big question.
    5. builder
      builder 18 November 2013 11: 11 New
      +1
      II.
      Do you think it is legitimate to sit and wait until your head is cut off, your children will be raped by your wife?

      3. No, I don’t think so. The state is obliged to protect its citizens from terrorists by all available means, up to their complete destruction.
      You noted in your comment that 28 Arab families gave shelter to Jews, so it’s not so simple

      4. Yes, not everything is clear. Among the Arabs (contrary to your claims) the majority are decent people. Like Jewish Jews, Orthodox Jews from Givat Shaul came to the aid of the residents of Deir Yassin at about 2 p.m. and were able to stop the killings (Meir Paul).
      Just from two events (Deir Yassin, Hebron) we can draw different conclusions.
    6. Revolver
      Revolver 19 November 2013 00: 01 New
      -1
      Quote: stroitel
      .
      Quote: Pharaoh
      Well, and who first began to atrocities You asked this question

      1. Asked

      Somehow it hurt one-sidedly you wondered
    7. builder
      builder 19 November 2013 00: 38 New
      0
      Light multilateral. Take the starting point in 1900 (We will not climb into Bible times)
    8. builder
      builder 19 November 2013 01: 47 New
      0
      Rather than me, but the British administration.
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    1. crisis
      crisis 16 November 2013 17: 51 New
      0
      davai nachinai)) geroi
      1. UmaR
        UmaR 16 November 2013 20: 02 New
        -5
        Our beginning will be your end yes !
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 18: 42 New
      +7
      Quote: UmaR
      All of you must be destroyed ...

      Well, tear the fifth point from the sofa, buy a ticket to Egypt, cross the Egyptian-Palestinian border and begin to destroy. Or weak ?!
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        1. UmaR
          UmaR 16 November 2013 19: 59 New
          0
          I'd rather hang myself than ask anything from a Jew first, laughing secondly, I am able to go to Egypt and even further if I please, yes third hand and all that, do not judge people by yourself am !!!
      2. UmaR
        UmaR 16 November 2013 19: 42 New
        -1
        And you certainly are not weak to kill the Palestinians, to seize the land from them to build a settlement of rot and mocking them for decades. Of course it is easy when the enemy throws stones, but we will not throw stones if you consider that !!!
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          1. UmaR
            UmaR 16 November 2013 21: 19 New
            0
            True eyes hurt yes !
        2. faraon
          faraon 17 November 2013 16: 19 New
          +1
          I won’t even call you a respected opponent, because you write all sorts of nonsense, signing up for the entire Russian people.
          As for the massacre of the Arab population, here you clearly went too far. They destroy the freaks who directly harm the state with their actions or actions, with weapons in their hands.
          As for the occupied lands, part of the lands was annexed by the state of Israel during the past wars as compensation for the treacherous attacks of the Arab armies (here I was corrected that the eastern part of Jerusalem belongs to Jordan, so that dispel doubts like you, the State of Jordan does not claim these lands.) So what kind of seizure of Arab lands is involved, moreover, a peace treaty has been signed with Jordan on peace and cooperation in many areas of the economy.
          Now about the so-called Palestinians are Jordanian citizens who are trying to pump their rights into the territory of a foreign state.

          As for spread rot and mockery, I am forced to unleash you here.
          It is not the Palestinian administration that grants permission to work in Israel, not the Palestinian administration that grants loans, but rather Israel. Here you have the cloth truth about Palestinian autonomy, which since! 948 has not bothered to create a single state institution of power, and the money received from the world community has been stolen the closest associates of the authorities. So who is to blame for everything that has been done for decades for the (fraternal, USSR) Palestinian people settled in the poopers of Yasser Arafat, Abu Mazen, and the ruling elite. That genocide that you ascribe to the Jews is entirely on the shoulders Palestinian Authority.
          1. Professor
            Professor 17 November 2013 16: 25 New
            +2
            Quote: faraon
            with Jordan signed a peace treaty on peace and cooperation in many areas of the economy

            ... and the absence of any territorial claims. Same thing with Egypt.
          2. UmaR
            UmaR 18 November 2013 17: 08 New
            -1
            You look, but you have to ... I am very glad that you did not call me respected! In my whole life, when I discussed the Arab-Israeli theme with different people and with Muslims and Christians in our country, everyone agreed with me as a whole, everyone condemned your actions, and I subscribe for them, yes my ancestors and I have lived in this country for centuries, I have every right to sign for the whole nation, if you like, and for the whole country, unlike you who live in an illegally created country! The Russian people do not minus my komenty like you, silence is a sign of agreement, some even do!yes (yeah, in short, you have settled and are building a settlement to this day on orphan lands, yes, wassat people are not stupid to absorb your nonsense like a sponge, "yes yes yes yes you are right, of course, you are always right, of course, if you ask yourself, you are Jews and that says it all") bully!!!

            The Pharaohs have not been forgotten yet, yes, several thousand years ago you were among their slaves ... hahahahaha laughing maybe you have anger towards the Arabs because of this, wassat the insult is ancient, so to speak, you have amused me with order, the pharaoh is sort of! laughing
          3. tenere1200
            tenere1200 21 November 2013 22: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: faraon
            I won’t even call you a respected opponent, because you write all sorts of nonsense, signing up for the entire Russian people.
            As for the massacre of the Arab population, here you clearly went too far. They destroy the freaks who directly harm the state with their actions or actions, with weapons in their hands.
            As for the occupied lands, part of the lands was annexed by the state of Israel during the past wars as compensation for the treacherous attacks of the Arab armies (here I was corrected that the eastern part of Jerusalem belongs to Jordan, so that dispel doubts like you, the State of Jordan does not claim these lands.) So what kind of seizure of Arab lands is involved, moreover, a peace treaty has been signed with Jordan on peace and cooperation in many areas of the economy.
            Now about the so-called Palestinians are Jordanian citizens who are trying to pump their rights into the territory of a foreign state.

            As for spread rot and mockery, I am forced to unleash you here.
            It is not the Palestinian administration that grants permission to work in Israel, not the Palestinian administration that grants loans, but rather Israel. Here you have the cloth truth about Palestinian autonomy, which since! 948 has not bothered to create a single state institution of power, and the money received from the world community has been stolen the closest associates of the authorities. So who is to blame for everything that has been done for decades for the (fraternal, USSR) Palestinian people settled in the poopers of Yasser Arafat, Abu Mazen, and the ruling elite. That genocide that you ascribe to the Jews is entirely on the shoulders Palestinian Authority.

            Well, everything goes according to the technologies of arrogant Saxons and mattresses. Who is arguing? For example, let’s say there is in some country - minerals, or an interesting territory - so everything is according to the old shabby scheme. They found 2-3 traitors at the top, warmed up the dissatisfied from the bottom (sobchakinavalnye kasparov, each country has its own) - and go! divide and rule ! Let the sheep bang their foreheads - for now, we will devour the popcorn. And when they snitch each other on their faces - here it is possible to launch pranks in the muddy water. And then they won off to Vietnam, they still cough. We decided now differently. Better to heat the heat with other hands.
    3. catapractic
      catapractic 16 November 2013 18: 49 New
      +1
      gut thin
      1. UmaR
        UmaR 16 November 2013 20: 06 New
        -1
        catapractic

        I can expand yours if that laughing !
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        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 18 November 2013 01: 11 New
          0
          Quote: UmaR

          I can expand yours if that laughing !

          However! Are you homosexual or just a pervert?
  • Shur
    Shur 17 November 2013 23: 58 New
    0
    It’s good that they live. I have no idea about 20% of the Jews in Arabia. It is good that the Jews have Israel. There are many brothers. No, that’s really wonderful.
  • crisis
    crisis 16 November 2013 21: 07 New
    0
    jal chto ne vse jiteli etoi derevni pogibli, naverno yje rasplojalis kak myxi
  • catapractic
    catapractic 16 November 2013 11: 45 New
    +4
    if there is no Israel war will not end just the Arabs will rapturously slaughter each other regardless of gender and age
  • dmitrich
    dmitrich 16 November 2013 14: 00 New
    +7
    all to blame except you get it?
    1. catapractic
      catapractic 16 November 2013 17: 26 New
      +1
      You know dear Dmitrich
      all to blame except you get it?
      being an ethnic Russian, I really respect Israel for its staunchness and desire to survive at any cost and to save every citizen. In today's geopolitical situation, this is our natural albeit temporary ally (fellow traveler if you like) in the fight against Islamism raising its head for many years, to some extent towards Such allies include the dear (completely unreasonable) to many Iran. A JEWISH MESTCHECH-ETERNALLY SCENTED PARIS RELATED TO THE ISRAEL SAME AS A RUSSIAN LONG-TERM PEASANT TO A FOREIGN COSSACK - it seems that the blood is the same and people are different.
      1. Shur
        Shur 18 November 2013 00: 20 New
        -1
        Who can argue, but rather just a "temporary" ally. Very temporary and very slippery. Today they are against some Arabs, and tomorrow with others. Difficult environment and stuff. Such a "friend" is sometimes worse than an enemy. No, I don't blame them, you have to survive. I don’t understand why ... Russia is climbing there. Our natural enemy is the sponsor of terror, Saudi Arabia. Now they seem to be friends with Israel. So interests have already scattered. Who knows what they will do there.
      2. tenere1200
        tenere1200 21 November 2013 22: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: cataphractium
        You know dear Dmitrich
        all to blame except you get it?
        being an ethnic Russian, I really respect Israel for its staunchness and desire to survive at any cost and to save every citizen. In today's geopolitical situation, this is our natural albeit temporary ally (fellow traveler if you like) in the fight against Islamism raising its head for many years, to some extent towards Such allies include the dear (completely unreasonable) to many Iran. A JEWISH MESTCHECH-ETERNALLY SCENTED PARIS RELATED TO THE ISRAEL SAME AS A RUSSIAN LONG-TERM PEASANT TO A FOREIGN COSSACK - it seems that the blood is the same and people are different.

        A Jew is not a nationality, but a state of mind. Do not forget about this, our dear ethnic Russian.
    2. crisis
      crisis 16 November 2013 17: 52 New
      -1
      net mi ne takie dyxovnie kak vi, mi toje vinovati
  • Orik
    Orik 16 November 2013 10: 23 New
    14
    Yes, in general, white and fluffy.
    Militants "Hagan" start first. Jewish militants from the Hagan’s underground army did not wait for the Arabs to attack, but they themselves were the first to strike, launching a series of terrorist acts in Jerusalem that killed civilian Arab populations. On the night of January 1, 1948, in the Arab quarter of Katamon, which separated two Jewish quarters from the main place of settlement of Jews in the New City, Jewish militants blew up eight residential buildings at once. The goal - to intimidate and force the Arabs to leave their homes - was a success.

    On January 4, Jewish militants from Hagana blew up the Semiramis hotel: 37 Arabs were killed, dozens were injured. In response, the Arabs, with the help of the Jihad Warriors, blocked the communication with the Jewish Quarter in the Old City, isolating it from the Jews living in the New City. To the complaints of the Jewish Agency, the British authorities proposed to evacuate the problem area, which they were refused. After this, the British agreed to conduct one convoy there a week.

    In addition to the Hagan group, the Jews had a number of other battle groups, such as Irgun and Stern, which were also involved in the exercise! policies of "terror and intimidation." They were perfect! a number of terrorist attacks in crowded places, in areas of compact residence of Arabs. For example, on January 7, right in the center of the Arab quarter of Jerusalem, near the bus stop, they dropped a 200-liter barrel stuffed with trotyl, bolts, nails and nuts from the van - 17 people died on the spot, dozens were injured.

    And then it all started, only Arabs are terrorists, and Jews are fighters against terror.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 16 November 2013 11: 08 New
      16
      Quote: Orik
      Yes, in general, white and fluffy.
      1. VAF
        VAF 16 November 2013 12: 29 New
        +7
        Quote: Ascetic
        Yes, in general, white and fluffy.


        Stanislav, we have already moved from words to deeds, without any ... "informational"

        The photo is fresh (there is a date) and not a photo toad soldier

        1. Phantom Revolution
          Phantom Revolution 16 November 2013 14: 37 New
          +8
          Quote: vaf
          Stanislav, we have already moved from words to deeds, without any ... "informational"

          Who crossed? Where did you go? Who is it? These are ordinary mercenaries, judging by the Amer’s berets. Which were under Gaddafi.
    2. crisis
      crisis 16 November 2013 17: 53 New
      -2
      ne arabi samie mirolybivie syshestva na svete, primerno kak i chechenzi
  • Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 16 November 2013 23: 41 New
    +4
    IDF soldiers behave with the Palestinians like SS Esovs with Jews in the Warsaw ghetto. And you hope for our benevolent attitude towards you. Israel’s position is flawed initially. You will fight with your neighbors endlessly, even having nuclear weapons will not solve your problems. Its use by you it’s only possible as a weapon of retaliation, when no more than 10% of your population remains. You are rich and successful compared to the poor Palestinians and other similar Arabs, they have nothing to lose, and you have something. From the radioactive Arabian Peninsula, the Arabs have room to go, And YOU ARE JEWS WHO NEEDS WHO WILL HELP YOU? Do you live 2-3 years in advance, but you haven’t tried for 10-15 years?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 17 November 2013 00: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrew 447
      .You are rich and successful in comparison with poor Palestinians and other similar Arabs, they have nothing to lose, and you have something.

      "beggars"? Are you kidding me? Do you know how many Russian and Ukrainian girls annually marry Palestinians? The standard of living of the Palestinians, their ability to receive quality medical care, is higher than that of the average Russian.
      1. Shur
        Shur 18 November 2013 00: 27 New
        -2
        Wow, we have complete w here .. Capitalism with your face, you’ll excuse me, but Abramovich, Vekselberg and others. Yes, and the Karimovs are, of course, but there are more Jews. Well done of course. We are already happy. Ukrainian girls are full of places to go, at home just a fairy tale ...
      2. Allegedly
        Allegedly 18 November 2013 01: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        The standard of living of the Palestinians ... is higher than the average rosian.


        Yes, above! Provided that he works in Israel. And there is work there as long as the Americans subsidize it. But as soon as the servants of Israel, that is, the Americans are completely weakened, then "oil painting". People will eat each other there. There are only those peoples around them that hate them. Two thousand years ago, the wildest cannibalism in siege Jerusalem was the norm. There is a carriage of historical documents that testify and confirm these facts.
        1. Professor
          Professor 18 November 2013 10: 26 New
          0
          Quote: JACOB
          Two thousand years ago, the wildest cannibalism in siege Jerusalem was the norm. Historical documents testifying and confirming these facts have a carriage.

          Duc share with us at least a part of this carriage of "historical documents".
  • andreitk20
    andreitk20 17 November 2013 12: 47 New
    +1
    So you yourself showed the Arabs that through terror you can achieve your own, or you are omniscient, do not remember this stage of the creation of the Israeli state? You do not need to tell about Jewish battle groups or how ????
  • Shur
    Shur 17 November 2013 23: 46 New
    -1
    Who knows where the USSR long-range aviation bombs flew.
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 16 November 2013 11: 01 New
    12
    Quote: Sasha
    During the Second World War, our partisans did the same. And they were Heroes. I do not condone these hoops. It’s necessary to kill or lose ALL of them. Only two options. Stalin understood this.


    At West Point, they once studied the tactics and organization of sabotage operations Belarusian partisans to form rebel groups in third world countries to overthrow unfavorable regimes.
    1. VAF
      VAF 16 November 2013 12: 32 New
      +5
      Quote: Ascetic
      to form rebel groups in third world countries to overthrow unfavorable regimes.


      Oh, and it's hard for these "formed rebels" soldier

      1. aksakal
        aksakal 16 November 2013 18: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: vaf
        Oh, and it's hard for these "formed rebels"

        WAF, yes, they have already returned to their native land without great losses, calm down. Only six wounded. They did not want much for the ideals of Assad (or rather, for the commercial interests of some rich Syrian) to go to bed, left the encirclement with little blood and returned to their native land.
        Well, a scam, well, an adventure, it happens ... Why are you so outraged, WAF? What fought on the side of Assad hired? So it’s not against Israel that they are going to fight, against the militants who are exactly the same enemies to Israel, why are you so worried? In general, I suspect by your emotional characteristics that you have changed your place of residence and are already living on the promised land. But why don't you honestly indicate the flag? Here is the same crisis argues and shows - and nothing, argue with him and do not eat.
        Is it strange that Pupyrchaty also displays the Russian flag, also wants to banish for his own?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 18: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: aksakal
          In general, I suspect by your emotional characteristics that you have changed your place of residence and are already living on the promised land. But why honestly do not indicate the flag? Here is the same crisis argues and shows - and nothing, argue with him and do not eat.

          And I have the impression that you aksakal live in saudi arabia. And what will we do?
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        3. Revolver
          Revolver 19 November 2013 00: 21 New
          0
          Quote: aksakal
          But why honestly do not indicate the flag? Here is the same crisis argues and shows - and nothing, argue with him and do not eat.
          Is it strange that Pupyrchaty also displays the Russian flag, also wants to banish for his own?

          The server sets the flag by IP request. Although anyone can hide behind the Soviet flag - just mark "Born in the USSR" in the settings
  • Pimply
    Pimply 16 November 2013 12: 25 New
    -4
    Quote: Sasha
    During the Second World War, our partisans did the same. And they were Heroes. I do not condone these hoops. It’s necessary to kill or lose ALL of them. Only two options. Stalin understood this.

    That is, the partisans:
    Not subordinate to the supreme command?
    Captured civilian objects and fired systemically at them?
    Traded in drugs?
    Were radical fanatics?
  • Katsin1
    Katsin1 16 November 2013 08: 30 New
    +1
    An article of at least 5 years ago. Hyena (Imad Murnie) back in 2008 was sent to 72 Shiite virgins in paradise)))
    1. Professor
      Professor 16 November 2013 09: 01 New
      -4
      Quote: Katsin1
      An article of at least 5 years ago. Hyena (Imad Murnie) back in 2008 was sent to 72 Shiite virgins in paradise)))

      The headrest exploded in his jeep in Damascus, taking out all his thoughts ...
      1. WASABI
        WASABI 16 November 2013 10: 41 New
        19
        Quote: Professor
        The headrest exploded in his jeep in Damascus, taking out all his thoughts ...

        With what breath you savor all these bloody details! Yes, you are a bloodthirsty person, professor! Tell me, do you want to smear yourself with the blood of those killed "for the glory of Israel" ???
        Fu, to the vomit disgusting ... No.
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 11: 06 New
          -2
          Quote: VASABI
          Quote: Professor
          The headrest exploded in his jeep in Damascus, taking out all his thoughts ...

          With what breath you savor all these bloody details! Yes, you are a bloodthirsty person, professor! Tell me, do you want to smear yourself with the blood of those killed "for the glory of Israel" ???
          Fu, to the vomit disgusting ... No.

          And when a similar joke occurred to Basayev’s brains, was it disgusting for you too?
          1. WASABI
            WASABI 16 November 2013 11: 24 New
            13
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            And when a similar joke occurred to Basayev’s brains, was it disgusting for you too?

            The whole difference is that when a lion is killed, it simply eats its prey, while the hyena, after being eaten, happily falls out in the blood and entrails of its victim. That's what makes me disgusting, and I do not grieve at all about the "loss" of another terrorist. There he is dear, as well as the "hyena".
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 11: 37 New
              -7
              Plenty of water".
              1. WASABI
                WASABI 16 November 2013 11: 49 New
                +9
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Plenty of water".

                But water cleanses, as does fire, by the way ...
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 16 November 2013 12: 30 New
              -9
              Have you seen how lions eat? Are you a zoologist?
              1. WASABI
                WASABI 16 November 2013 13: 03 New
                +8
                Quote: Pimply
                Have you seen how lions eat? Are you a zoologist?

                I am not a zoologist, but I saw how lions eat and how they eat HYENA!
              2. Misantrop
                Misantrop 16 November 2013 18: 06 New
                +5
                Quote: Pimply
                Have you seen how lions eat? Are you a zoologist?

                Is it visible only to zoologists? belay
                1. Misantrop
                  Misantrop 16 November 2013 18: 56 New
                  +4
                  Have you heard about the zoo at least once in your life? And about sites like YouTube videos and the like? Or is intelligence enough only to trample the keyboard, minus (silently) those who disagree? For, if you answer with words, then you can get the return minus ... lol
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          3. tenere1200
            tenere1200 17 November 2013 14: 09 New
            +2
            No, it's not disgusting. People who shout "WOW" when they see the death of another person are disgusting. No one has the right to take the life of other people whoever they are. There are many other ways, for example, jail. But you cannot understand this, God's chosen one. For you, the solution to the territorial issue - the genocide of another people - is the right solution in relation to the "terrorists"
          4. Shur
            Shur 18 November 2013 00: 35 New
            -1
            Of course disgusting. Why rejoice? Killed and killed. There the truck pulled with weapons and other things, what other details are there, funnel?
        2. Professor
          Professor 16 November 2013 12: 45 New
          -1
          Quote: VASABI
          Tell me, do you want to smear yourself with the blood of those killed "for the glory of Israel" ???

          All the blood on matzo was gone. We are waiting for a new batch of babies.
          1. WASABI
            WASABI 16 November 2013 13: 24 New
            +9
            Quote: Professor
            All the blood on matzo was gone. We are waiting for a new batch of babies.

            But there is no doubt about this:
            TESTIMONIES OF YOURSELF W ... (according to the rules of the site the use of certain words is prohibited)

            about ritual killings
            christian children



            1. Testimony of a former rabbi
            John of Trient.
            2. Book of the former rabbi of Lithuania
            Jan Serafimovich.
            3. The testimonies of ... v-francists
            from Poland.
            4. Book of a former rabbi, monk
            Neophyte from Moldova.
            5. The story of a young ... ki Ben-Nood
            French traveler.
            6. The book is w ... whom the professor
            Ariel Toaff.

            1. Testimony of a former rabbi
            John of Trient

            In 1475, this baptized Jew was summoned to the Crown Court as an expert on ritual killings and showed the following: “Jews have a custom on the fourth day of Holy Week to bake unleavened bread with the addition of the blood of a Christian baby, and on the fifth and sixth day of the same weeks they mix this blood into wine. During the blessing of these loaves at their usual table, they curse Christ the Savior and the Christian faith, asking God (his God) to send to Christians the same sores as the Egyptians were struck. "

            2. Revelation of the former rabbi
            Jan Serafimovich
            April 25, 1710 Serafimovich was baptized. His godfather was prince Konstantin Sobieski, and his godmother was Senyavskaya, the wife of the Krakow castellan.
            Serafimovich soon rendered a great service to the investigation in the Sandomierz case (the murder case of the young ... Krasnovsky). “Similarly,” Serafimovich declared, “as a Christian should give truthful testimony at the command of God, who remembers this obligation, I must publicly confess and testify against the unfaithful women ... who are locked in their atrocities, among which there is also such malicious godlessness that the Christian blood of innocent babies is brutally grinded out (strained), doing this at a specific order of the Talmud; this blood is used for superstitious rites. "
            Serafimovich further said in his oath that at the time he was the chief rabbi of Brest-Litovsk, he himself organized the ritual killings of Christian children. Serafimovich also described the ritual of murder. Serafimovich also spoke about why they are using Christian blood. He gave nine examples. Here are some of them:
            1. The blood of Christian children is used for special unleavened bread.
            2. At the wedding, the rabbi gives the bride and groom a cool egg with the blood of a Christian baby.
            3. In order to win the favor of the Christian, they smear the doors of his home with the blood of Christian children.
            4. In order to achieve success in trade and to achieve the location of Polish gentry, they ... receive a letter from the rabbis containing dry blood and put this letter on the threshold of the Christian's house.
            Serafimovich also said that women of both sexes, 13 years old, were obliged to pay in Lithuania even a special tax of two zlotys a year for obtaining the blood of Christian children. At the end of his statement, Serafimovich promised "with God's help to write more about this in his essay."


            I could post a video about contemporary such crimes, but on You Tube it was unfortunately removed, I think that out of pity for the Jewish population ...
            1. atalef
              atalef 16 November 2013 13: 37 New
              -8
              Quote: VASABI
              I could post a video about contemporary such crimes, but on You Tube it was unfortunately removed, I think that out of pity for the Jewish population.

              Svetlana, I don’t know how the word TROL is feminine, but you’re definitely a wasabi-colored Troll. Therefore, I’ll just bring you to the emergency situation, so as not to see all that stupid abomination which is rushing among you.
              1. WASABI
                WASABI 16 November 2013 13: 44 New
                15
                Quote: atalef
                , I don’t know how the word TROL is feminine, but you’re definitely a Troll

                Well, naturally, when there is nothing to oppose against the facts, you start shouting to the whole world that they are trolling you (in one form or another). Happily...
                1. Aaron Zawi
                  Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 15: 23 New
                  -11 qualifying.
                  Quote: VASABI
                  Quote: atalef
                  , I don’t know how the word TROL is feminine, but you’re definitely a Troll

                  Well, naturally, when there is nothing to oppose against the facts, you start shouting to the whole world that they are trolling you (in one form or another). Happily...

                  Facts and you ?! No, this is incompatible. laughing
                  1. Tatarus
                    Tatarus 16 November 2013 16: 58 New
                    +7
                    Do not be rude to a lady. Men don’t do that. Although among your people perhaps there are no such already.
                    1. crisis
                      crisis 16 November 2013 17: 59 New
                      -9
                      sredi vashego naroda vse myjchina stoyat za vodkoi v ocheredi
                      1. Arberes
                        Arberes 16 November 2013 19: 06 New
                        +3
                        Quote: crisis
                        sredi vashego naroda vse myjchina stoyat za vodkoi v ocheredi

                        This is so ritual on you CUTTING acting?
                      2. Tatarus
                        Tatarus 16 November 2013 19: 28 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Arberes
                        Is that how the CUTTING ritual affects you?


                        Yes, it seems the wrong way started laughing
                      3. Arberes
                        Arberes 16 November 2013 19: 38 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Tatarus
                        Yes, it seems the wrong way started

                        Yes, of course, it’s not a hunt to reduce everything to the ends, but his phrase about peasants standing in a queue for vodka touched me a little!
                      4. AlexW
                        AlexW 17 November 2013 13: 08 New
                        +2
                        "On the bus, not hearing the language,
                        I can smell a fellow countryman for sure:
                        only Russian Jewish breathing
                        a hangover scent. "
                        I. Huberman. "Gariki for every day") fellow
            2. andreitk20
              andreitk20 17 November 2013 12: 57 New
              +5
              I do not justify it, but she brought the facts that you always ask, and you immediately are a troll, is it strange somehow ??? Velikie.Srazhenija.Drevnosti. (3.seria.iz.8) .Iisus.Navin.Jepicheskaja.shvatka.200
              9.HDRip.x264.potroks here American and European trolls tell how a Hebrew state was created by cutting everything in its path or also a lie ?????
          2. crisis
            crisis 16 November 2013 17: 58 New
            -1
            blin kyda gledel mossad kogda vi bili mladenzom?)) love
            1. Tatarus
              Tatarus 16 November 2013 18: 16 New
              +8
              Looks like he was looking for me in line for vodka. I did not find and drank himself with grief. laughing Yes, in vain I grumbled at Us. Compared to you, an angel in general. You are then an idioid.
            2. Arberes
              Arberes 16 November 2013 19: 11 New
              +5
              Quote: crisis
              kyda gledel mossad kogda vi bili mladenzom?)

              Really! Interesting than mossadAnd his eyes are covered, if he looked through such a jamb? hi
              I have to ask you! Buy "Klava" with Cyrillic. All the same, you are on the Russian site?
        3. The fat man
          The fat man 16 November 2013 22: 30 New
          +1
          comrade do not blame her because she does not know that under the fear of the Inquisition, rather under torture
          children can confess all sins
        4. AlexW
          AlexW 17 November 2013 13: 01 New
          +1
          no counterargument - transition to personality wassat
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 15: 22 New
        -3
        The testimony of baptized Jews against their people is no different from the testimony of the former secretaries of the CPSU Central Committee against the CPSU. Hate renegade. And the same honesty.
        1. Shur
          Shur 18 November 2013 00: 41 New
          -2
          Baptized immediately begin to lie, interesting.
      3. VasiliyK651
        VasiliyK651 18 November 2013 00: 17 New
        +2
        And what is this nonsense ?! Jews by their faith are forbidden to use blood in food .....
      4. Allegedly
        Allegedly 18 November 2013 04: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: VASABI
        TESTIMONIES OF YOURSELF W ... (according to the rules of the site the use of certain words is prohibited)

        about ritual killings
        christian children


        So yes, such facts took place. There are too many historical facts. Judaism is generally very heterogeneous. They probably also have sincere believers, leading a more than decent way of life, and who probably lead this life in piety and prayer. But there are many other religious movements. Hasidim, for example, there are all kinds of Chabadniks. Those are ready to kill even their own Jews, who are not as radical as they are. Half-breed Jews, religiously inactive, can be listed for a long time. Many old people say that the tragedy of the Jews in World War II was not based on empty space. As, incidentally, there were similar actions on the part of "supposedly" Christians. And the Muslims also indulged in this, recently in Syria one client ate the heart of the enemy for his god. And nothing, neither conscience, nor diarrhea tormented him. So a lot in this world is relative.
    2. Orik
      Orik 16 November 2013 13: 35 New
      +3
      Blood tends to return ...
      1. crisis
        crisis 16 November 2013 17: 59 New
        -4
        eto takaya glybokaya misl chto aj ne chego otvetit
    3. their
      their 16 November 2013 16: 23 New
      +6
      Religious Talmudists have for centuries been a ritual of drinking blood, so they were outcasts in all countries.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 17: 56 New
        -1
        Quote: sus
        Religious Talmudists have for centuries been a ritual of drinking blood, so they were outcasts in all countries.

        Are you an Islamist or a Nazi? Such nonsense is only they. From the point of view of Judaism, if there is blood inside the meat, it is no longer suitable for food. And then "drinking blood".
      2. crisis
        crisis 16 November 2013 18: 00 New
        0
        a est tipo ne religioznie talmydisti?
    4. crisis
      crisis 16 November 2013 17: 57 New
      -1
      laughing ya lybly mazy na krovi arabskix mladenzov))
    5. Shur
      Shur 18 November 2013 00: 37 New
      -1
      Che really eat;))
  • crisis
    crisis 16 November 2013 17: 55 New
    0
    mne ochen nravyatsa takie podrobnosti pro gien i emy podobnix)
  • their
    their 16 November 2013 16: 20 New
    +4
    Well, who is the terrorist after that? You are blowing people up on foreign territory. only terrorists do this. So then boast as Satanists
    1. faraon
      faraon 17 November 2013 16: 33 New
      0
      Well, you protect those who blow up buses with children, start rocket attacks on civilians, launch terrorist attacks in discotheques, plan and direct terrorist operations. And when these freaks begin to be destroyed like mad dogs, YOU and YOU like you start yelling about the poor miserable oppressed Palestinian people .
      Look what is happening around you in the Russian land, who is sleeping with your women, and then write your thoughts here
      1. builder
        builder 17 November 2013 20: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: faraon
        around you in the Russian land, who sleeps with your women, and then write your thoughts here

        Dear Pharaoh. I understand your righteous anger. But you don’t have to swim for buoys.
  • Shur
    Shur 18 November 2013 00: 31 New
    -1
    What for you these details?
  • alone
    alone 16 November 2013 13: 31 New
    +5
    The author Vasily Geranin, describing the "exploits of the Hyena" either by accident, or specially forgot one episode. For those who are interested:

    Hezbollah members near the USSR Embassy in Beirut seized stopped two cars. In one, there were consular officer Arkady Katkov and embassy doctor Nikolai Svirsky, in the other, KGB residency officers Oleg Spirin and Valery Myrikov.

    Arkady Katkov was killed. The leader of the assassination was Imad Mugniya, nicknamed "Hyena" (it is known that Mugniye not only gave the order to execute Katkov, but also personally shot him.

    that really hatred of Israel is so strong that the author forgot to mention the crime committed against his own?
    hi
  • makarov
    makarov 16 November 2013 08: 40 New
    11
    Tzahal is studying in exercises, and Hezbollah in real conditions in Syria.
    Probably something will happen .....
  • atalef
    atalef 16 November 2013 08: 45 New
    -3
    The article is old and in many ways is no longer relevant.
    Mugnia has been fried in hell for a long time in a pan, the number of Hezbollah has exceeded 20 tons,
    And in general, something new or interesting has not been said, an old info and not an actual one
    1. Professor
      Professor 16 November 2013 08: 59 New
      +6
      Recently, in the north of Israel, the final IDF headquarters exercises ended ...


      Gabi Ashkenazi, the chief of the General Staff, observed the exercise at the headquarters of the Northern District. Defense Minister Ehud Barak also took part in the exercises.

      And Ashkinazi and Barack are already long retired.
    2. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 16 November 2013 10: 18 New
      +6
      atalef "And in general, as something new or interesting is not told, old infa and not current"
      So write in a more modern, more relevant, more interesting way. You can cooperate with a professor for a couple. He is also dissatisfied with this article.
      And we read, discuss, criticize, it will be easier for us ...
      1. WASABI
        WASABI 16 November 2013 10: 35 New
        15
        Quote: Nagaibak
        You can cooperate with a professor for a couple.

        The professor only succeeds in translations, his articles are of neither informational nor (even more so) artistic value, and from the atalef one can only hear that "the whole world exudes a stench and only Israel and the United States smells of roses ..." from them? Although ... it would be fun to read!
        1. atalef
          atalef 16 November 2013 11: 51 New
          -5
          Quote: VASABI
          The professor only succeeds in translating well, while articles of his information or (especially) artistic value are not

          Well, about artistry is to Tolstoy * War and Peace * - read? By the way, in what context do you understand the word Peace? (You know Russian so well)

          Quote: VASABI
          and from the atalef one can only hear that “the whole world exudes a stench and only Israel and the United States smells of roses ...

          I never wrote this, in Israel the same stocks are enough, but I practically do not write about the States
          1. WASABI
            WASABI 16 November 2013 12: 19 New
            10
            Quote: atalef
            You know Russian so well

            Not just good, but VERY good, so much so that I am able to lay out a rather weighty list for you, including contextual content from esoteric understanding to the vulgar abbreviation "Misha and Paradise".
            Yes, as you guessed correctly, I read "War and Peace", and apart from it and "Resurrection", and "", and "The Man Who Laughs" ... The list is huge ...
            Quote: atalef
            but I don’t write about the States at all

            I expressed only the meaning of your posts, and did not give a verbatim quote.
            Do not give up your beliefs, because you can lose not only the disposition of your allies, but also lose the respect of your opponents and, as a result, insults against you may begin. The enemy who has no honor is not only not feared, they despise him. I hope that this will not affect you and we will be able to continue to discuss.
            1. atalef
              atalef 16 November 2013 12: 31 New
              -1
              Quote: VASABI
              Not just good, but VERY good, so much so that I am able to lay out a rather weighty list for you, including contextual content from esoteric understanding to the vulgar abbreviation "Misha and Paradise".
              Yes, as you guessed correctly, I read "War and Peace", and besides it, and "Resurrection", and "", and "The Man Who Laughs" ... The list is huge

              From rags to riches, Guimplen what is remembered?
              Nevertheless, the question was not answered
              Quote: atalef
              ? By the way, in what context do you understand the word Peace

              Quote: VASABI
              I expressed only the meaning of your posts

              I think the meaning of their posts. I understand something better than you

              Quote: VASABI
              Do not give up your beliefs, because you can lose not only the disposition of your allies, but also lose the respect of your opponents and, as a result, insults against you may begin

              Well, I’m changing my own convictions. But to the insults for 3 years on VO, I’ve gotten used to it for a long time and let them pass in the background, it's like white noise
              Quote: VASABI
              . I hope that this will not affect you and we will be able to continue to discuss.

              The discussion with you. As a rule, your monologue is what you are, you know the Russian language - do you correctly understand the word discussion. so are her rules hi
              1. WASABI
                WASABI 16 November 2013 13: 29 New
                +6
                Quote: atalef
                I think the meaning of their posts. I understand something better than you

                Believe me, I'm glad for you ...
                Quote: atalef
                Do you understand correctly how the word discussion. so are her rules

                More than! And only because I CORRECTLY understand these rules. Are you still able to communicate with me! winked And all this because I KNOW my language ...
        2. Professor
          Professor 16 November 2013 12: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: VASABI
          articles of his neither informational nor (especially) artistic value do not represent

          On the artistic account, I agree with you. Here Elena Gromova rules, but I write exclusively about the materiel without the epithets "the best", "have no taxes in the world", etc. You can verify this.

          PS
          Have you written anything? What article? wink
          1. WASABI
            WASABI 16 November 2013 13: 31 New
            +5
            Quote: Professor
            You can verify this.

            Already...
            Quote: Professor
            Have you written anything? What article?

            I write a lot, but not for the general public.
          2. their
            their 16 November 2013 16: 45 New
            +3
            Why are you doing this in Russian and on the Russian resource? What about articles in the "native" language of Hebrew?
            1. Tatarus
              Tatarus 16 November 2013 17: 00 New
              +4
              Yes it is a network landing. Internet saboteurs
            2. Professor
              Professor 16 November 2013 17: 05 New
              -2
              Quote: sus
              Why are you doing this in Russian and on the Russian resource? What about articles in the "native" language of Hebrew?

              I don’t communicate with horses.
              1. Tatarus
                Tatarus 16 November 2013 17: 38 New
                +2
                Quote: Professor
                I don’t communicate with horses.


                This is already flying.
                1. aksakal
                  aksakal 16 November 2013 18: 45 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Tatarus
                  PROFESSOR: I don’t communicate with horses.
                  - Professor, you’re not talking to me either. laughing laughing Have you mixed me up with a horse? But I'm actually Kazakh, and I enjoy eating horses in the form of a kazy! I also ate you in due time, respectively, your phrase
                  Quote: Tatarus
                  PROFESSOR: I don’t communicate with horses.
                  - It's that you refuse to communicate with yourself. And this is a diagnosis. Tell you the address of an intelligent psychiatrist?
              2. crisis
                crisis 16 November 2013 18: 02 New
                -3
                on neloshad on osel
            3. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 17: 57 New
              -3
              Mutually, and you.
            4. AlexW
              AlexW 17 November 2013 13: 13 New
              +1
              "with a soul forked like a hoof,
              both are alien to the homelands -
              a Jew where the anti-Semites are raging,
              and Russian, where they sin with Zionanism. "

              (I. Huberman. "Garik for every day")
        3. crisis
          crisis 16 November 2013 18: 40 New
          -2
          net eshe shveziya zvetet i paxnet
          1. builder
            builder 16 November 2013 18: 45 New
            +4
            The professor kind of suggested how to type letters
            Quote: Professor
            use transliteration
            translit

            Too complicated for you?
      2. atalef
        atalef 16 November 2013 10: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Nagaibak
        . You can cooperate with a professor for a couple. He is also dissatisfied with this article.
        And we read, discuss, criticize, it will be easier for us ...

        What for ? The Chukchi is not a writer (I’m talking to myself), the Chukchi is a reader, and the * writer * got it from somewhere, but he himself wrote. Could and fresher to accumulate.
    3. WASABI
      WASABI 16 November 2013 10: 25 New
      15
      Quote: atalef
      The article is old and in many ways is no longer relevant.

      And how do you like the article:"Putin gently hinted to 'world Jewry' that he could open the 'Pandora's box' ... Not everyone understood him ..."? It is impossible to call it "old" and, in my opinion, the aggressive nature of world Jewry is very clearly shown in it. If you have not read this article, then for you and for everyone who will be interested, I give a link

      http://temydnya.mirtesen.ru/blog/43573069752/Putin-myagko-nameknul-%22mirovomu-e
      vreystvu%22,-chto-mozhet-otryit-%22?pad=1&announce=1&pad_page=0&utm_campaign=tra
      nsit & utm_source = main & utm_medium = page_0


      It seems that our management has figured out what flirting with "Chabad Lubavitch" and the like can lead to. sects. Although, of course, a lot of time has been lost and it is relatively easy for our country to get rid of these "figures", but it's still nice ...
      You know how in that joke:
      "Better late than never," said the Jew, resting his head on the rails and looking sadly after the departing train.
      Have a nice and pleasant weekend! wink love repeat
      1. ruslan207
        ruslan207 16 November 2013 11: 48 New
        -8
        Svetlana, you read the Jewish wars where a small Judea opposed Rome and everything will become clear to you where is Rome now, also from hezbola there will be no waiting for the massada will no longer fall
        1. WASABI
          WASABI 16 November 2013 12: 27 New
          +8
          Quote: ruslan207
          Svetlana you read the Jewish wars

          You will not believe how much I have read on this (and not only) occasion and with your statement that "Massada will not fall any more" I would not rush. Let me explain why: the fact is that almost all "Jewish wars" included (and still include) one important detail - secret bribery of enemy military leaders or open financing of the fifth column. If you (Israel) manage to buy the top of Hezbollah, then "Massada will not fall," otherwise Israel expects at least a very long adventure without a good ending.
          1. ruslan207
            ruslan207 16 November 2013 14: 49 New
            -3
            Romans bribe how the Jews managed
            And where did the Christian population of Lebanon go and they were the majority
            1. Shur
              Shur 18 November 2013 00: 52 New
              0
              This should alert you .. Suddenly, you’ll start to disappear there too.
          2. crisis
            crisis 16 November 2013 18: 03 New
            -3
            a vi chto voeenii analitik?
        2. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 16 November 2013 14: 57 New
          +6
          And what kind of position was this in Judea - the prefect of Judea, which was occupied by the Roman Pontius Pilate? Something does not fit with a free Jew from Rome!
        3. Shur
          Shur 18 November 2013 00: 50 New
          0
          Rome in Italy, and what happened?
  • Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 16 November 2013 08: 58 New
    10
    Is that why Israel is so aggressive?

    Rockets invented, 250 thousand dollars apiece. The author of the article writes: to destroy a group from Hezbollah and 2-3 people need 1 rocket.

    What is it that turns out? Human life costs a little over $ 80.000!

    A nightmare!

    Isn’t it better to use this money to normalize relations with a neighbor?

    To give bribes to someone who decides among the Lebanese, to deliver humanitarian aid, to build something that the Lebanese people need?

    A thin world is always better than a good quarrel.

    Why is Lebanon so haunting Israel?


    And in the event of war, it seems to me, despite all its missiles, drones and the army, Israel will wash itself with blood.

    Remember our partisans who fought with the Nazis almost with their bare hands. And they won!
    1. Professor
      Professor 16 November 2013 09: 11 New
      0
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      To give bribes to someone who decides among the Lebanese, to deliver humanitarian aid, to build something that the Lebanese people need?

      Nasrallah is not Kadyrov, you cannot buy him with tribute. In addition to Hezbollah, there are dozens of "humanitarian" organizations in Lebanon, and most cannot be bought for any money.

      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Why is Lebanon so haunting Israel?

      You explain in a nutshell what is Lebanon? Or why, for example, did the OOP get kicked out by all the neighbors and did it end up in Lebanon?
      1. Shur
        Shur 18 November 2013 01: 00 New
        0
        Have you tried buying them? Maybe they didn’t offer much? Are you envious of Kadyrov? There are facts and docks that he takes himself?
    2. atalef
      atalef 16 November 2013 10: 39 New
      -1
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      What is it that turns out? Human life costs a little over $ 80.000!

      A nightmare!

      In general, not bad grandmas, compared with an uncontrolled bomb for 1000 bucks and killing 200 people (indiscriminately)
      1. crisis
        crisis 16 November 2013 18: 16 New
        -2
        ya toje protiv slishkom dorogo za kakogo nibyt xizbalona daje 2 ili 3
    3. Dezzed
      Dezzed 16 November 2013 11: 28 New
      -4
      You dear means put the guerrillas of WWII on the same line with the Islamic "fighters for world peace"?
      But the Jews get on the line with the national sociolists?

      okay Jews, they’re used to it, but how do you compare the partisans with the Muslim terrorist scum, excuse me for the expression?
    4. their
      their 16 November 2013 16: 49 New
      +6
      Because the war brings big money, in Israel everything in the war is tied to the military-industrial complex, IDF search for enemies, all for making money. Well, the Rothschilds started this historical occupation from this 300 years ago. The Rothschilds are still masters in Israel.
  • Strashila
    Strashila 16 November 2013 09: 00 New
    +1
    "makes the rocket insensitive to jamming - both radio-electronic and infrared" ... but is there protection from a laser pointer ???
    1. Professor
      Professor 16 November 2013 09: 08 New
      -1
      Quote: Strashila
      Is there a protection from the laser pointer ???

      Of course have. The probability of a hit of a pointer beam in the GOS of a rocket is approximately equal to the probability of a running hammer falling into it, i.e. zero point, zero point. fool
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 09: 59 New
    +1
    One of the reasons for the relatively high losses in Lebanon in 2006 is the episodic repeated loss by the strategic command of the initiative, due to inconsistency of goals between the General Staff and the Cabinet, and not because of the loss of combat efficiency - as it is fashionable to say. The army was regularly pulled and stopped in an attempt to agree on what to do next, and at these moments, hezbollons immediately passed from defense to attack.
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 16 November 2013 14: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: And Us Rat
      The army was regularly pulled and stopped in an attempt to agree on what to do next


      Directly the first Chechen. If according to the participants in the war
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 10: 02 New
    +2
    Apparently, the theory of central network operations can be the basis of the strategy of the Israeli army


    This is not a theory but a practice, for 10 + years
  • Turkestan
    Turkestan 16 November 2013 10: 15 New
    +2
    Of course, interesting approaches to combat training in the Israeli army. = The head of the military school leads the exercises = why not combat officers.
  • Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 16 November 2013 10: 21 New
    +5
    For an outside observer, Israel is the cause of all Middle Eastern wars. You cannot consider all neighbors an outcast; you must build a world. I think in the short term, Israel will receive what it has long been supposed to. This is 0 relief from the States, the embargo, and other no-fly zones. It must be clearly understood that Israel, which possesses nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons, is illegal. The time of Israel is over.
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 16 November 2013 11: 21 New
      +7
      Quote: Asan Ata
      The time of Israel is over.

      And where did it go? Something the Jews have not lost weight lately (figurative expression), the economy is developing well, the population has not decreased, and technical progress is beyond doubt. And the neighbors did not become stronger, Syria ravaged by the war, unstable Egypt, Jordan does not create problems, there are no problems with the Mediterranean Sea either.
      1. crisis
        crisis 16 November 2013 18: 19 New
        -1
        xot kto to govorit fakti
    2. Katsin1
      Katsin1 16 November 2013 11: 50 New
      -11 qualifying.
      Dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness? Dreaming is not harmful. If it depended on Barak Huseynovich, we would have been sitting for a long time without any American support. But fortunately, America is a democratic country, the president cannot do whatever he wants. And 70% of Americans, the Senate and Congress unconditionally support Israel. Therefore, Obamych’s abilities to us are very limited.
      1. WASABI
        WASABI 16 November 2013 12: 33 New
        10
        Quote: Katsin1
        If it depended on Barak Huseynovich,

        Quote: Katsin1
        the senate and congress unconditionally support Israel.

        Here it is - the key phrase, "The Senate and Congress support Israel. One of the pillars on which Israel's current position is based is PROTECTIONISM, they definitely do not abandon their own people and pull wherever possible, using the second factor of their influence - money.
        1. crisis
          crisis 16 November 2013 18: 20 New
          -1
          ny izvenite nety nefti ne chem shantajirovat evropy kak vi)
        2. faraon
          faraon 18 November 2013 05: 44 New
          0
          And here are the key phrases, everything is much simpler, if the States refuse to help Israel and merge it That their niche will immediately be taken by Russia, with its ideological justification "protecting the honor and dignity of citizens of the Russian Federation living abroad (read Israel).
          Do you really think that the States will give Israel Russia, give the key to the entire Middle East? Yes, not to life .. Well, and as for the president, they will not last forever.
          1. tenere1200
            tenere1200 21 November 2013 22: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: faraon
            And here are the key phrases, everything is much simpler, if the States refuse to help Israel and merge it That their niche will immediately be taken by Russia, with its ideological justification "protecting the honor and dignity of citizens of the Russian Federation living abroad (read Israel).
            Do you really think that the States will give Israel Russia, give the key to the entire Middle East? Yes, not to life .. Well, and as for the president, they will not last forever.

            Octavian Augustus also thought that the senate and empire would be eternal. But no, they burst a little. The spiral is spinning - wait a bit.
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 16 November 2013 12: 35 New
      -3
      Quote: Asan Ata
      For an outside observer, Israel is the cause of all Middle Eastern wars.


      For a stupid bystander, this will be so. The clever one will notice that in the inter-Arab wars, far more people died than in the wars with Israel for all 65 years of the existence of Israel (a little more than 50000 on both sides). He will also pay attention to the fact that for some reason Egypt, which launched a peace initiative, received Sinai back, and the world has been with him for over 30 years. Jordan also signed a peace with Israel - and this is strange: he does not attack her. But, according to your forecasts, you are simply obliged.
      1. Tatarus
        Tatarus 16 November 2013 14: 24 New
        +5
        Quote: Pimply
        He will also pay attention to the fact that for some reason Egypt, which came out with a peace initiative, received Sinai back, and the world has been with him for more than 30 years. Jordan also signed a peace with Israel - and this is strange: he does not attack her


        And all three countries have general financial and political assistance from the USA. And in case of war, military is possible. So do not be proud that there is peace with Egypt. And they and you are on the same choke.
      2. AlexW
        AlexW 17 November 2013 13: 27 New
        +1
        Read the post of Professor's fellow tribesman: - "Nasrallah is not Kadyrov for you, you cannot buy him with a tribute." Here is your answer - neither Nasrallah nor Assad can be bought - that's why they are fighting. And an Egyptian with a Jordanian - with giblets. Yes, so Jordan and the Western coast does not require fellow
        But this is so far - "nothing lasts forever under the moon" and corrupt rulers too
    4. crisis
      crisis 16 November 2013 18: 18 New
      -1
      vashe vremya voobshe ne kogda ne nastypit))
    5. faraon
      faraon 18 November 2013 05: 34 New
      +1
      Let's look on the other hand, you write 0 help from the states, And you asked what this aid is for and what. What kind of embargo can we talk about? What time are you talking about.?
      One answer to all questions, America will refuse - tomorrow the same place will be taken by Russia with ideological slogans about protecting the country in the birth of which they took a direct part.
      The funny thing is that you understand all this perfectly. But write all kinds of nonsense.
      Having Israel as an ally is equivalent to having a key to the entire Middle East.
      Do you really think that the states will give you this key on a plate with a blue border.
      naive you are right.
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 10: 23 New
    +4
    Quote: Dmitry
    but the Jews did not try to behave more modestly.


    They tried, the trouble is that modesty in the Middle East among Muslims is regarded as weakness and an excuse for trying to make money, the same hezbola or Hamas - when Israel refrained from responding to circumstances and provocations (to please the requests of geyropa or Yusovtsy), this only led to increased attacks and attacks, and when the patience of Israel burst and at the end they were given the same in the brain - it immediately became quiet.

    At the end of the 2006 war, Nasrallah said - "If I knew that Israel's reaction to the attack of the border patrol and the kidnapping of 2 soldiers would be a full-scale war - I would not allow this attack."
    This one phrase explains the whole alignment of the BV, and some other reasoning in the style of "and if ..." are meaningless from the point of view of elementary logic. We are dealing with religious fanatics whose ultimate goal is the destruction of Israel TOGETHER WITH THE POPULATION.

    For the sake of interest, the video of "fighters of Allah" IN BROKEN HEBREW (sorry without translation) - which openly and openly declare - "our goal is to kill you all, from old people to babies, around the world." Doesn't you remind anyone you know?

    1. igor67
      igor67 16 November 2013 13: 15 New
      +4
      Now they have shown on NTV that there is a battle in Dagestan, they are trying to drive out the follower of the Islamists beloved by everyone here from Sokolov’s house, according to the report, he has already admitted to organizing a bus explosion in Volgograd, do you already think that those who explode here are different from yours? Sponsor one
      1. Asgard
        Asgard 16 November 2013 18: 10 New
        -2
        The main terrorist is the state .....
        Sokolov will be killed, the explosion in Volgograd will be blamed on him, the men from the "loaf" are the main witnesses and the state will wash their "hands" in the blood of students of Russian ...
        Putin rides the pipe of BerLazar, and with him the Special Services ...

        The same state of Israel, a provocation, often in its own way, then a very well-organized operation begins with tightened troops, with ready Information about deployment points and places of impact by airplanes and drones ...
    2. beard999
      beard999 16 November 2013 14: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: And Us Rat
      Nasrallah stated - "If I knew that Israel's reaction to the attack of the border patrol and the kidnapping of 2 soldiers would be a full-scale war - I would not allow this attack."

      Confirmation link, where Hassan Nasrallah says similar, can you give?
      1. 31231
        31231 17 November 2013 00: 58 New
        +3
        As always, probably a free Jewish press. Which North Korean pilots escorted every day to the tasks of the ATS.
        Jews are not surprised by anything new.
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 10: 31 New
    +2
    Quote: Asan Ata
    For an outside observer, Israel is the cause of all Middle Eastern wars. You cannot consider all neighbors an outcast; you must build a world. I think in the short term, Israel will receive what it has long been supposed to. This is 0 relief from the States, the embargo, and other no-fly zones. It must be clearly understood that Israel, which possesses nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons, is illegal. The time of Israel is over.


    And what do you expect us to lay down our arms and go submissively to drown in the sea? If you have to fight to the last man - so be it, and have no doubt - each of us will take a hundred with us, whoever has nothing to lose at the price will not stand. But nuclear weapons are our guarantor. Russia without nuclear weapons would have been pulled to pieces for a long time, but they want to kill us in general, so that it is more legitimate here than anywhere else. The ONLY, and the MOST FAST and SIMPLE way to achieve peace of silence in the Middle East, is that all sorts of Islamist thugs of OTE ... FOX FROM US. Elementary. angry
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 16 November 2013 13: 26 New
      +8
      Quote: And Us Rat
      If you have to fight to the last man - so be it, and have no doubt - each of us will take a hundred with us, whoever has nothing to lose at the price will not stand. But nuclear weapons are our guarantor


      You voiced this political aspect of Israel’s nuclear strategy. There is also a purely military one, which is very different, because nuclear planning is not only about the scenarios of containment and retaliation, but also for offensive purposes. This is an axiom that many do not know about, and the common man does not need to know. Based on the size of the state of Israel, there are two main types or plans of combat use: the first is outside the 300 km zone from the borders, when the primary PFNF do not threaten their territory, the second is inside this zone, which is undesirable, but if the state and the population are ready for this in certain cases available. We need, by and large, shelters of the appropriate class of protection and autonomy and education of the population. This is in general terms. Somewhere I had a report from the bowels of the VDA "Assessment of probable scenarios of limited use of nuclear weapons at the BV theater of operations" ten years ago, everything is pretty well written there, I must look at my leisure. So in order to in principle avoid the second scenario from a military point of view, Israel needs to achieve an overwhelming military advantage over potential adversaries, both individually and their coalition, which has actually been achieved so far. There was recently a report from the Begin-Sadat center where they made the appropriate conclusion. And secondly, to expand its territories and living space, becoming a leading regional power up to the implementation of the project Eretz Israel of radical hypersionists.
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 16 November 2013 17: 09 New
        +5
        Quote: Ascetic
        It was you who voiced the political aspect of Israel’s nuclear strategy.

        Completely leaked all plans of the command.
        Quote: And Us Rat
        each of us will take a hundred with us; he who has nothing to lose for the price will not stand.

        But this will already be something new, if "everyone takes" a hundred of his own from all over the world to the promised one. And then the Arabs will certainly work. And what are the benefits to us? Yes, the most interesting, but not sad. We will just watch Jews in programs like "International Panorama" and "Their Manners", and not in all in a row as now. You can throw some money on it and make repairs in Sokhnut offices around the world, by the efforts of guest workers. We will not stand behind the price either.

        The other day, they made me funny again. laughing
        When two Jews wrote a novel, another Jew filmed a novel, starring the Jews. The Jews instituted the award, gathered, and awarded all the remaining Jews. Those who were directly involved and morally / financially supportive.
        The remaining Jews came to drink and feed.
        Question. What the fuck is that. and where does this happen?
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 16 November 2013 19: 28 New
          +7
          Quote: Ptah
          When two Jews wrote a novel, another Jew filmed a novel, starring the Jews. The Jews instituted the award, gathered, and awarded all the remaining Jews. Those who were directly involved and morally / financially supportive.


          Joke.
          The concert begins. Entertainer announces artist name.
          A voice from the audience: “Is it possible without Jews?”
          Entertainer: - Of course you can. The concert is over!

          The director of the film "Seventeen Moments of Spring", Efim Lebedinsky, who played the role of extras - the same SS men who guarded the headquarters of the RSHA - invited his zakomys, all of whom were Jews. A consultant from the KGB, who once came to the shooting and saw these extras, was suddenly indignant: they say, how did it happen that only Jews are being cast in the role of the SS ?!
          - What are you, anti-Semite? - surprised Lioznova.
          - No, but you yourself know what kind of relations we have with Israel. So it turns out that in our film we will show that the Jews were destroyed by the same Jews, only in Gestapo form.
          Lioznova understood the hint. She called Lebedinsky and ordered to change the extras.
          - How to change?! I already paid them! - the director was indignant.
          -Nothing, compensate from your pocket! - cut off Lioznova.
          The director had to obey. On the same day, with the help of the same consultant from the KGB, he called the Higher Border School and asked to send a dozen tall cadets, preferably from the Baltic states, to the shooting. It is them that we now see on the screen ... "
          (F. Razzakov. Life of wonderful times. 1970-1974. Time, events, people. P. 340)

          Dalle soldiers were exchanged for cadets, and for the role of SS officers, Lioznova allowed Lebedinsky to collect extras at his discretion. He invited the acquaintances and acquaintances of the Jews again. And when Tsvigun watched the film, he told Lioznova that it’s the impression that we are watching a film about the Israeli army and not about the fascist German.
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 17 November 2013 23: 07 New
            0
            Quote: Ascetic
            Yefim Lebedinsky, who invited his teammates to the role of extras - the same SS men who were guarding the RSHA headquarters -

            Thank you, Stanislav!
            For the fact that they did not mention the respected Vizbor, Armored, Plyat, etc.
            Film, for all its patriotic power (I clearly remember the first (?) show. Dad fries meat for "naval pasta", I hang my pants "with fleece" over the batteries in the apartment).
            And the words of the song with subtitles ........ And the next day I "kobzonil" with bass ...
            Jews, again, yabre .......

            And no one answered my "riddle" in a day.
            This is the movie "It's Hard to Be God".
            In fact, and when comparing those works that came out in those years, it is very similar to the works of Ursula Le Guin, but not subjected to such a "kiss".

            NO TALENTED JEWS - THERE ARE KNOWN!
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 16 November 2013 10: 35 New
    +7
    I respect the position, Professor, but not a single state except Israel has ever cried so much about any threats from without ... Therefore, I repeat-Mania you or imitation under ....Ага.
    1. Dezzed
      Dezzed 16 November 2013 11: 10 New
      -11 qualifying.
      Valery Neonov:
      "not a single state except Israel has ever cried so much about any threats"
      -----------------------------------
      "Defense Minister General of the Army Sergei Shoigu in the program" Vesti on Saturday "said that the main enemies of Russia are terrorism and NATO's approach to the borders of our country, RIA Novosti reports.

      And this is called "crying" or to adequately state the facts?
      1. Valery Neonov
        Valery Neonov 16 November 2013 11: 43 New
        +9
        It is the facts that are adequate, and the position of the hunchback is more acceptable for you, this is understandable. hi
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 16 November 2013 13: 18 New
      -1
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      I respect the position, Professor, but not a single state except Israel has ever cried so much about any threats from without ... Therefore, I repeat, you have mania or imitation under .... Yeah.


      And what state did they strive to destroy like Israel?
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 16 November 2013 13: 44 New
        15
        Quote: Pimply
        And what state did they strive to destroy like Israel?


        Russia for example.
        1. Timeout
          Timeout 16 November 2013 17: 29 New
          +7
          Quote: Pimply
          And what state did they strive to destroy like Israel?


          But was there such a state of Israel? They wrote about the sons of Israel, about the Jews, but about the state from the past Israel, why not a word ... Israel does not need to be destroyed, it will stop the infusion from the United States, and piz **** dec kitten. No one will spoil anyone else. Will solve internal problems with his plebs. At the expense of nuclear weapons, yes they can apply but only 1 time, and it is not known where the first scam comes from, but the circle is small, Pakistan, Iran, China, India, North Korea or Russia. And there will simply be nothing left of a small but proud state, not even the Dead Sea, and by the way, your rulers understand this and are trying to achieve any results with a quiet glanders. It’s worth sitting quietly, like mice under a broom.
          1. Timeout
            Timeout 16 November 2013 17: 52 New
            +1
            Minusers in business! The beginning has been made, the first has gone!
          2. Dezzed
            Dezzed 16 November 2013 19: 12 New
            -2
            There were two kingdoms: Israel (north) and Yehuda (south)

            read
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 10: 38 New
    -12 qualifying.
    Quote: VASABI
    Quote: atalef
    The article is old and in many ways is no longer relevant.

    And how do you like the article:"Putin gently hinted to 'world Jewry' that he could open the 'Pandora's box' ... Not everyone understood him ..."? It is impossible to call it "old" and, in my opinion, the aggressive nature of world Jewry is very clearly shown in it. If you have not read this article, then for you and for everyone who will be interested, I give a link

    http://temydnya.mirtesen.ru/blog/43573069752/Putin-myagko-nameknul-%22mirovomu-e

    vreystvu%22,-chto-mozhet-otryit-%22?pad=1&announce=1&pad_page=0&utm_campaign=tra

    nsit & utm_source = main & utm_medium = page_0




    It seems that our management has figured out what flirting with "Chabad Lubavitch" and the like can lead to. sects. Although, of course, a lot of time has been lost and it is relatively easy for our country to get rid of these "figures", but it's still nice ...
    You know how in that joke:
    "Better late than never," said the Jew, resting his head on the rails and looking sadly after the departing train.
    Have a nice and pleasant weekend! wink love repeat
    1. WASABI
      WASABI 16 November 2013 10: 55 New
      17
      Quote: And Us Rat
      And Us Rat

      Judging by the text of the above article, there is no Stalin specifically for you and your kind. Indeed (I quote) "Stalin saved Russia twice. First from the terrible Jewish Nazism, then from the no less terrible Hitlerite Nazism that manifested itself in the 1941-1945 war."
      So which of us is a Nazi? And with the growth of 178cm (without heels) I can hardly be called "small". tongue
    2. AlexW
      AlexW 17 November 2013 13: 38 New
      0
      Jewry is a very strange organism
      eating a poisonous spirit
      even anti-Semitism to the Jew
      more necessary than a Jew to anti-Semites.
      (I. Huberman. "Garik for every day")
      1. The comment was deleted.
    3. tenere1200
      tenere1200 17 November 2013 14: 36 New
      0
      It's him on you, what a pity not.
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 10: 47 New
    -2
    Quote: Valery Neon
    I respect the position, Professor, but not a single state except Israel has ever cried so much about any threats from without ... Therefore, I repeat-Mania you or imitation under ....Ага.


    Not a single state except Israel has ever bothered so much ONLY by the fact of its existence.

    Any territory that was under the rule of Muslims in any historical period is forever considered Muslim land. Therefore, the formation of the state of Israel in the territory that once belonged to Muslims is a historical revolution for them. Muslims, in principle, cannot accept this fact. However, they remain realistic politicians ... They are in no hurry. And they act on the basis of specific situations, given the ratio of their own military force with the enemy’s potential. And there is no gleam, not the slightest hope of concluding peace with the Arabs. Not the slightest ... The long arm of Ishmael (the ancestor of all Arabs) knows no other natural state, except for a state of continuous war. This is jihad, the holy war of Muslims against the "infidels."
    And jihad is an obligation established by the Qur'an. In Islam, in principle, there is no concept of a peace treaty with the “infidels.” True agreements are possible only between Muslims ... The principle of a commanded war always remains in force and awaits its implementation as soon as a real opportunity arises to bring it to life. The same Anwar Sadat, who put his signature on a “peace treaty” with Israel, knew very well that he was signing only an agreement on a temporary ceasefire. But Sadat sinned, violated the ban, publicly declaring: “There will be no more war. There will be no bloodshed. ” And paid for it with my life ...
    If we are much stronger than them, they will have to put off jihad again and again. They must feel our strength, feel that they cannot defeat us.
    1. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 16 November 2013 10: 58 New
      12
      Honestly ... well, why the hell did you FUCK .... It’s yours that climb like cockroaches everywhere.
      1. WASABI
        WASABI 16 November 2013 11: 07 New
        11
        Quote: Valery Neonov
        why the fuck you got it ....

        Actually, I don’t like such expressions very much, but in this particular case "+" - What a nickname (And Us Rat), such is the answer !!! drinks
        1. Valery Neonov
          Valery Neonov 16 November 2013 11: 47 New
          +6
          drinks drinks DUK ..... soldier Someone does not like the truth (a little bit) ...

          Operation Wooden Leg
          Operation Days of Penance
          Operation Dugman-5
          Operation Protective Wall
          Operation Summer Rains
          Operation Litani
          Operation Cast Lead
          Operation Moses
          Operation Nachshon
          Operation Cloud Pillar
          Operation Opera
          Operation Rooster 53
          Oh (continued)
          Operation Rainbow
          Operation "Account Clearing"
          Operation Solomon
          Operation Uvda
          Operation Philistine
          Operation Four Views
          Operation Erez
          Р
          The Kibia Massacre
          Raid on Baalbek
          Raid on Tire
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 16 November 2013 13: 22 New
            -8
            And more specifically. What truth do you mean there? You, she, apparently, are some kind of specific.
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 16 November 2013 13: 20 New
        -5
        Quote: Valery Neonov
        Honestly ... well, why the hell did you FUCK .... It’s yours that climb like cockroaches everywhere.


        To you, for example. Well, what prevents you from writing nasty things about Jews?

        Or to the Arabs, maybe? Surprisingly, apparently the Jews themselves are to blame for all wars. But the peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan, and the withdrawal from Gaza prove nothing.
        1. WASABI
          WASABI 16 November 2013 13: 52 New
          +9
          Quote: Pimply
          To you, for example. Well, what prevents you from writing nasty things about Jews?

          And what prevents you from doing those nasty things that you have to talk about later?
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 17 November 2013 19: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: And Us Rat
      Any territory that was under the rule of Muslims in any historical period is forever considered Muslim land.

      But Islam is a religion with abramic roots. It is a sin to complain about your child.
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 10: 55 New
    -9
    Quote: VASABI
    Quote: Professor
    The headrest exploded in his jeep in Damascus, taking out all his thoughts ...

    With what breath you savor all these bloody details! Yes, you are a bloodthirsty person, professor! Tell me, do you want to smear yourself with the blood of those killed "for the glory of Israel" ???
    Fu, to the vomit disgusting ... No.


    On the account of Imad Mugniya is the training of Chechen fighters at Hezbollah bases in the first Chechen war.

    Hey people, here one girl pities a jackal who taught how to RUSSIAN SOLDIERS to cut off his head with a knife more correctly. Who wants to support her? No.
    1. WASABI
      WASABI 16 November 2013 11: 14 New
      17
      Quote: And Us Rat
      Hey people, here one girl pities a jackal who taught how to RUSSIAN SOLDIERS to cut off his head with a knife more correctly. Who wants to support her?

      "This girl" has a father and an uncle - military officers. Each "iconostasis" of military orders is such that you would want to stand at attention in their presence, but none of their lower ones NEVER relished the details of the elimination of some odious personalities, like a professor.
      And the people have nothing to do with it. We have normal adequate people, without psychopathic and cannibalistic inclinations, unlike some ...
      1. Katsin1
        Katsin1 16 November 2013 12: 01 New
        -3
        Svetlana, you are right in this case. The professor is a cool stamp, but apparently he didn’t smell gunpowder. But I would not be so strict on him. You are probably very young and therefore suffer from maximalism
        1. Professor
          Professor 16 November 2013 12: 52 New
          -1
          Quote: Katsin1
          The professor is a cool stamp, but apparently he didn’t smell gunpowder.

          Sniffed, respected, sniffed. Although not up to the katsin.
          Samal is a professor.
        2. WASABI
          WASABI 16 November 2013 13: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: Katsin1
          You are probably very young and therefore suffer from maximalism

          Thanks again, but not as young as we would like ...
        3. tenere1200
          tenere1200 17 November 2013 14: 42 New
          +2
          Of course, what do you say against him, he has a six-sided flag
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 16 November 2013 13: 23 New
        -6
        Quote: VASABI
        "This girl" has a father and an uncle - military officers. Each "iconostasis" of military orders is such that you would want to stand at attention in their presence, but none of their lower ones NEVER relished the details of the elimination of some odious personalities, like a professor.
        And the people have nothing to do with it. We have normal adequate people, without psychopathic and cannibalistic inclinations, unlike some ..

        I'm not sure about the latter.

        Do uncle and dad combat officers talk about the girl somehow? Won that the country fought against Nazism did not stop the grandchildren and great-grandchildren from becoming Nazis.
        1. WASABI
          WASABI 16 November 2013 13: 56 New
          +5
          Quote: Pimply
          I'm not sure about the latter.

          This does not change anything! And most importantly, the Nazis will not stop making of you ...
      3. bulvas
        bulvas 16 November 2013 13: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: VASABI
        "This girl" has a father and an uncle - military officers. Each "iconostasis" of military orders ...


        You specify where they deserve their orders. Surely, with the bearded they fought, which you defend so ardently.

        All smart people think: The enemy of my enemy is my friend
        I don’t understand what to argue about if our enemies become fewer
        Moreover, professionals who deal with this problem have been cooperating all over the world for a long time (more than a dozen years). And Russia and the United States and Israel and the United Kingdom - are cooperating in the fight against terrorism.
        1. beard999
          beard999 16 November 2013 15: 58 New
          12
          Quote: bulvas
          And Russia and the United States and Israel and the United Kingdom - are cooperating in the fight against terrorism.

          A very naive statement. The United States and Great Britain have long been harboring Chechen terrorists, for example, Ilyas Akhmadov and Akhmed Zakayev ... When Russia attacked the bases of Chechen separatists in the Pankisi Gorge, the Americans and the British shouted unanimously that we have no right to do this. But for example, Israel, can, at its option, slaughter anyone, anywhere, anytime, moreover, the dead peacekeeper (this happened more than once) is simply declared to be “collateral damage”. And the United States and Britain on this subject do not even blather.
          The United States has used terrorists more than once, including the notorious Al-Qaeda in the fight against countries undesirable to them http://www.proza.ru/2011/08/06/519. And at the moment, the United States and Britain continue to support terrorists of all stripes in Syria http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2012/07/17/svjaschennyj-sojuz-usa-i-al-kaidy-15524.htm
          l. And Russia, if you suddenly do not know, supports the legitimate authority of Syria. At the same time, Israel periodically bombed Syria, weakening its combat potential and thereby assisting terrorists in the fight against the Syrian army.
          It is foolish to think that there is a united front in the fight against terrorism. We are Russia, and they are the USA, Great Britain, Israel and other camarilla. It is clear that the United States, Great Britain, and Israel act exclusively in their own interests, and when it is beneficial for them to support terrorists, they do not hesitate to do so. And they do not give a damn about Russia in this matter. As G. Kissinger said: “I would prefer chaos and civil war in Russia, the tendency to restore into a single, strong centralized state.” And you still dream of some kind of “interaction” ...
          1. Dezzed
            Dezzed 16 November 2013 19: 18 New
            -3
            Quote: beard999
            US and UK shelter Chechen terrorists long ago


            What Chechen terrorists are Israel hiding?
            1. AlexW
              AlexW 17 November 2013 13: 43 New
              +2
              support for terrorists (including Chechen) in the SAR is enough
            2. beard999
              beard999 17 November 2013 15: 41 New
              +3
              Quote: DezzeD
              What Chechen terrorists are Israel hiding?

              And I wrote somewhere that Israel harbors Chechen terrorists?
              Nevertheless, if you are suddenly not in the know, then North Caucasian terrorists profess Wahhabism. The main sponsor of Wahhabism in the world are the Saudis. Militants from Saudi Arabia took an active part in two Chechen campaigns. At the same time, sponsorship for North Caucasian militants is collected on the territory of Saudi Arabia quite legally, without hiding. And although the authorities of the SA officially do not participate in this, they do nothing and stop the fundraising for the North Caucasian militants. Thus, from the position of Russia, Saudi Arabia can be considered the sponsor of terrorists. Israel itself constantly reproaches Russia for its close ties with Iran and Syria, they say those sponsors of terrorism. But at the same time, when Israel is profitable, it is ready to agree to any agreements with the main global sponsor of Islamic terrorism - with Saudi Arabia.
              http://yablor.ru/blogs/izrail-i-saudovskaya-araviya--vechn/3094443
              http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2013/10/22/o-voennom-sojuze-izrailja-i-saudovskoj-arav
              ii-protiv-irana-23552.html
              And further. North Caucasian terrorists (by the way, along with your "native" Hamas) are actively fighting in the SAR, on the side of al-Qaeda, against the legitimate authorities of Syria, which Russia supports. But Israel strikes at Syria, weakening its armed forces. That is, it turns out that the Syrian army on its land destroys the North Caucasian militants, Hamas, etc. trash, but Israel, with its strikes in Syria, just supports international terrorists of all stripes.
              1. faraon
                faraon 18 November 2013 06: 36 New
                +1
                Well, here you respected deceived, as in that joke about the youth Esif from the spiritual simenarii.
                What do you propose to bomb Saudi Arabia, so why Russia is a mighty power, with huge military potential, will not do it on its own? After all, it is Saudis who are the first danger. Why incite small Israel to this to solve its problems.
                How can Israel reproach Russia? Moreover, dictate the terms of a world power with whom it is not friends with.
                As for Syria, it is the problems of another country with which Israel is in a state of cold peace, so there are no binding parties to the treaties.
                Assad is paying off Hezbola’s armament. Israel informed Assad about this and the consequences that will result from the transfer of weapons to a potential enemy of Israel (everyone knows and is talking about). So what kind of blow would contribute to undermining the defense of the SA if Assad transfers weapons as payment to Hezbollah for her services.
    2. beard999
      beard999 16 November 2013 15: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: And Us Rat
      On the account of Imad Mugniya - training of Chechen fighters at Hezbollah bases in the first Chechen war

      Can you prove it?
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 10: 58 New
    -7
    Quote: VASABI
    Quote: And Us Rat
    And Us Rat

    Judging by the text of the above article, there is no Stalin specifically for you and your kind. Indeed (I quote) "Stalin saved Russia twice. First from the terrible Jewish Nazism, then from the no less terrible Hitlerite Nazism that manifested itself in the 1941-1945 war."
    So which of us is a Nazi? And with the growth of 178cm (without heels) I can hardly be called "small". tongue
    1. WASABI
      WASABI 16 November 2013 11: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: And Us Rat

      And Us Rat

      This is the answer to you with your nickname !!! love
    2. Tatarus
      Tatarus 16 November 2013 14: 32 New
      13
      Dear, change the nickname. Here I am offended by the mocking subtext. Just an insult to my national and religious feelings. Would they be called in Hebrew or something. Kakakya in FIG of you? Well, or change the flag.

      "You dear Boris Abramich, either change the cross, or put on panties"
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 11: 19 New
    -5
    Quote: Valery Neon
    Honestly ... well, why the hell did you FUCK .... It’s yours that climb like cockroaches everywhere.


    2008 - Purpose of the operation - TERMINATION OF ROCKET FIRING territory of Israel

    2006 - Conflict provoked by July 12 mortar shelling fortified point "Nurit" and border settlement Shlomi in northern Israel (11 people were injured in shelling) while attacking a border patrol (killing three and capturing two Israeli soldiers)

    1982 - Lebanese armed forces committed attack to Israel, which were a violation of the ceasefire.

    1973 - Began 6 October 1973 year with attack Egypt and Syria to Israel.

    1967 - May 18 after the hasty withdrawal of UN forces by Arab radio:
    From today, there is no longer an emergency international force protecting Israel. We will no longer exercise restraint. We will no longer appeal to the UN with complaints about Israel. The only method of influence that we apply to Israel will be a total war, the result of which will be destruction Jewish state.

    1956 - The Fidaines were subordinate to Egyptian military intelligence and housed in three camps in the Gaza Strip. At the time of creation, the number of such units was 700 people, while the Arabs intended to increase it, as well as organize similar units that would operate under the control of the special services of Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. In addition to a regular fee of ninety Egyptian pounds, fidain received an additional fee for each raid across the border of Israel and individual bonuses for successfully completed tasks - killings and sabotage...

    1947 - On 15 on May 1948, Israel declared independence. Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Transjordan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Yemen did not agree with the UN decision on partition, sent regular troops to Palestine and launched a series of military operations against the Jewish armed forces and settlements.
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 11: 21 New
    -7
    Quote: VASABI
    Quote: Valery Neonov
    why the fuck you got it ....

    Actually, I don’t like such expressions very much, but in this particular case "+" - What a nickname (And Us Rat), such is the answer !!! drinks


    Rat - from Old Russian: abuse, quarrel, contention, in military affairs this term has the following meanings:

    Armed forces as a whole or its component formations (army, militia, army, army);
    War, campaign, battle
    1. WASABI
      WASABI 16 November 2013 11: 37 New
      15
      Quote: And Us Rat
      Rat - from old Russian: scolding

      If only I - Russian, a Jew taught the Russian language! belay But MY Russian is really good, which allows me to not only read, but also think in Russian and see hidden phonemes. And your demagogy, sir And Us Ratleave for legal conflicts.
      1. bya965
        bya965 16 November 2013 11: 55 New
        10
        Quote: VASABI
        If only I - Russian, a Jew taught the Russian language!

        I also always finish off when they climb into the dictionary and say that it’s not according to the rules. Russian people do not follow the rules. We have no books where everything is painted. We live in the future, and they are the past.

        Klimov's verses (studied at the university together)

        Yes, the revolution is made
        By the Jews.
        And at that moment we are their country
        They gave it away.
        But the wings of the Russian giant
        Straightened
        And the texts of Marxist doctrines
        Corrected.
        And the flag of brilliant victories
        It was red.
        And this is until the death of
        Our holiday.
        And let them sit in the Kremlin now
        Pygmies.
        We defeat this
        We can do it!
      2. atalef
        atalef 16 November 2013 12: 02 New
        -4
        Quote: VASABI
        If only I - Russian, a Jew taught the Russian language!

        Dietmar Elyashevich Rosenthal (December 19 [31], 1899, Lodz, Kingdom of Poland, Russian Empire - July 29, 1994, Moscow, Russian Federation) is a Soviet and Russian linguist, the author of numerous works on the Russian language.

        Candidate of Pedagogical Sciences (1952), Professor (1962).
        From 1922 to 1923 he taught in high school, from 1923 - in high school (art school named after Artyom, 1923-1936). Further jobs - Faculty of Philology of the 1st Moscow State University, since 1927; Moscow Polygraphic Institute, 1940-1962; Faculty of Journalism. Professor, head of the department of stylistics of the Russian language of the journalism faculty of Moscow State University in 1962-1986. For a long time he led the faculty group of television and radio announcers of the USSR.
        The ancestor (together with Professor K. I. Bylinsky) of practical stylistics, one of the main developers and interpreters of the rules of modern Russian spelling. The author of more than 150 textbooks (published since 1925), manuals, reference books, dictionaries, popular books, as well as research works on the Russian language, speech culture, stylistics, spelling, linguodidactics.


        Of course, I understand the full extent of your indignation. but you learned the Russian language from his textbooks
        Want to write about math with physics?
        1. bya965
          bya965 16 November 2013 12: 32 New
          +8
          Quote: atalef
          Of course, I understand the full extent of your indignation. but you learned the Russian language from his textbooks
          Want to write about math with physics?

          And what do you want to say by this. I can recall how admission to higher education was carried out after the revolution. As for science, it’s better not to start.
          And I learned the Russian language from my parents.
          1. atalef
            atalef 16 November 2013 12: 41 New
            -3
            Quote: bya965
            Quote: atalef
            Of course, I understand the full extent of your indignation. but you learned the Russian language from his textbooks
            Want to write about math with physics?

            What do you want to say by this

            Only, what was said on the post, green horseradish (so can you interpret the word wasabi into Russian? Question to a connoisseur of the Wasabi language)
            Quote: VASABI
            If only I - Russian, a Jew taught the Russian language!


            Quote: bya965
            I can recall how admission to higher education was carried out after the revolution. As for science, it’s better not to start.

            Another cry on the Volga - do you know what white noise is? And dark matter is exactly us laughing
            It seems like it’s impossible to detect, but everywhere is present wassat
            1. bya965
              bya965 16 November 2013 13: 12 New
              +4
              And I learned the Russian language from my parents.
              Development of algorithms for constructing Gröbner bases of polynomial, differential and difference ideals.
              It's about me. It is customary for the Russians to be specific and to the point. And then white noise, Feigenbaum cascades and "entanglement".
              E = mc ^ 2 the formula of Henri Poincare (in my 1900) is the greatest mathematician, mechanic and physicist of all time. It was me who trolls you. Thanks for the picture.
            2. AlexW
              AlexW 17 November 2013 13: 49 New
              +1
              In the past there was the same salt and soap,
              bread, wine and the smell of poplars;
              in the past only the future was
              rainbow, more reliable and brighter.
              Having alcohol relatedness,
              Cognac doesn't taste port wine
              the Jew did not become smarter
              from tribalism to Einstein.
              I. Huberman
        2. WASABI
          WASABI 16 November 2013 13: 37 New
          +5
          Quote: atalef
          You studied the Russian language in his textbooks

          So this is ours, a Russian Jew, and not a secular demagogue.
          1. atalef
            atalef 16 November 2013 13: 40 New
            -3
            Quote: VASABI
            not a zakardonny demagogue.

            Just like you are a Russian Wasabi with a Swedish flag.
          2. Dezzed
            Dezzed 16 November 2013 19: 24 New
            -4
            And so you have your own tamed and beloved Jews?
      3. Katsin1
        Katsin1 16 November 2013 12: 04 New
        0
        I am Jewish and live in Israel. I am skeptical about the patriotism and advice of Jews from abroad. In the same way, I am skeptical about the patriotism of Russians who chose not to live in Russia
        1. WASABI
          WASABI 16 November 2013 13: 59 New
          +9
          Quote: Katsin1
          I am skeptical about the patriotism of Russians who choose not to live in Russia

          My place of residence is not chosen by me, but by the state. He (the state) knows better where my abilities are better applicable, but I am a citizen of my country - RUSSIA.
          1. atalef
            atalef 16 November 2013 14: 36 New
            -1
            Quote: VASABI
            My place of residence is not chosen by me, but by the state. He (the state) knows better where my abilities are better applicable, but I am a citizen of my country - RUSSIA

            Svetlana with such extensive knowledge, you are nothing but an illegal scout wassat
            1. WASABI
              WASABI 16 November 2013 14: 56 New
              +5
              Quote: atalef
              Svetlana with such extensive knowledge, you are nothing but an illegal scout

              Oh, what nonsense! lol I am quite an ordinary civil servant in a completely legal position. Or only illegal intelligence scouts have extensive knowledge? request
              1. atalef
                atalef 16 November 2013 15: 00 New
                -13 qualifying.
                Quote: VASABI
                . Or only illegal intelligence scouts have extensive knowledge?

                Like the lack of a sense of humor.
                You were probably sent to Sweden because of your blondness. what would not particularly stand out among the local population?
                1. Ascetic
                  Ascetic 17 November 2013 01: 26 New
                  +7
                  Quote: atalef
                  You were probably sent to Sweden because of your blondness. what would not particularly stand out among the local population?


                  Well, mine, Alksander, again a puncture. In Sweden it is now easier to get lost being a brown-eyed and in a hijab, rather than a blonde. It's time to change the bat (a symbol of intelligence) to some other beast.
                  1. Timeout
                    Timeout 17 November 2013 03: 45 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Ascetic
                    It's time to change the bat (intelligence symbol)

                    Sorry, Stanislav, but the bat is not worth touching on our GRU; the SVR has a two-headed chicken.

                    I am generally silent about illegal immigrants from the Foreign Intelligence Service; I hope no one will remind about Chapman.
                    The power and skill of PSU KGB employees were exchanged for an army of downs from the SVR Academy. Only under the guise of 50% of illegal immigrants at the expense of taxpayers live cone children from SVR. Very sad.
                  2. tenere1200
                    tenere1200 17 November 2013 14: 51 New
                    +1
                    just a mouse.
                2. AlexW
                  AlexW 17 November 2013 13: 51 New
                  +3
                  Everywhere you can become a fighter
                  wherever raging peoples
                  Jew with a cropped end
                  goes on crusades.
                  For the wisdom dissolved in the people,
                  for the plasticity of everyday turns
                  Jews pay mother nature an abundance of outright idiots. (I. Huberman)
          2. Dezzed
            Dezzed 16 November 2013 19: 29 New
            -1
            What attacked? the girl can, according to the party’s responsible task, and you ...
        2. Tatarus
          Tatarus 16 November 2013 14: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: Katsin1
          I am Jewish and live in Israel. I am skeptical about the patriotism and advice of Jews from abroad. In the same way, I am skeptical about the patriotism of Russians who chose not to live in Russia


          Thanks so much for your comment. But by analogy: Ukrainians live in Ukraine, and x *** s all over the world. You are a Jew from Israel. And those who are not in Israel who?
          1. atalef
            atalef 16 November 2013 15: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Tatarus
            Thanks so much for your comment. But by analogy: Ukrainians live in Ukraine, and x *** s all over the world. You are a Jew from Israel. And those who are not in Israel who?

            No, Ukrainians live in Canada.
            1. Tatarus
              Tatarus 16 November 2013 17: 04 New
              +2
              In Canada, those who are no longer Ukrainians live.
          2. AlexW
            AlexW 17 November 2013 13: 54 New
            +3
            [quote = Tatarus] [quote = Katsin1]. But by analogy: Ukrainians live in Ukraine, and x *** s all over the world. You are a Jew from Israel. And those who are not in Israel who? [/ Quote]
            Khazars laughing
      4. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 16 November 2013 13: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: VASABI
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Rat - from old Russian: scolding

        If only I - Russian, a Jew taught the Russian language! belay But MY Russian is really good, which allows me to not only read, but also think in Russian and see hidden phonemes. And your demagogy, sir And Us Ratleave for legal conflicts.

        The fact that you are Russian is not your merit, but of your father and mother. And among the teachers of the Russian language there are many people of different nationalities and Jews too. Moreover, for many, Russian is the same native language as for you
        1. bya965
          bya965 16 November 2013 13: 30 New
          +5
          Quote: DoctorOleg
          The fact that you are Russian is not your merit, but of your father and mother. And among the teachers of the Russian language there are many people of different nationalities and Jews too. Moreover, for many, Russian is the same native language as for you

          You contradict yourself. When she is a mother or already is, then it is her merit and she is Russian. We are Russian tolerant in nature, but this is my country built by my Russian ancestors. I am glad people of a different nationality if they do not betray my homeland and my people.
        2. WASABI
          WASABI 16 November 2013 14: 06 New
          +7
          Quote: DoctorOleg
          The fact that you are Russian is not your merit, but of your father and mother.

          Of course !!! They gave me a Russian gentika, they invested a Russian soul in me, and they invested in me an understanding that whoever lives in Russia accepts her moral principles and does not betray her for the sake of a golden calf, also a Russian person and spirit.
          Well, my merit, as bya965 correctly wrote, is to pass this on to your children (still small).
          1. atalef
            atalef 16 November 2013 14: 40 New
            -12 qualifying.
            Quote: VASABI
            does not betray her to please the golden calf

            Quote: VASABI
            is to pass it on to their children (still small).

            In Sweden laughing
            1. WASABI
              WASABI 16 November 2013 15: 00 New
              +5
              Quote: atalef
              In Sweden

              Why not? Moreover, this is not forever and I have been working here for two more years. Just in time for homecoming, the children will begin to understand something. I do not see any contradictions here.
    2. Tatarus
      Tatarus 16 November 2013 14: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: And Us Rat
      Rat - from Old Russian


      And what do you have to do with old Russian words?
      1. AlexW
        AlexW 17 November 2013 13: 56 New
        +1
        When the Russian army of the Khazars drove across the steppes, they shouted "And we Rat!" lol
  • bulvas
    bulvas 16 November 2013 11: 32 New
    +1
    Something is not clear. It is known that hezbola supported and supports the militants in the Caucasus, in Soviet times there were acts against the USSR.

    From Israel, have there ever been acts of violence against the USSR or Russia?

    Why are there people with the flags of Russia and the USSR here defending hezbola and opposing Israel?
    I suspect these people are either Muslims or work for Muslim terrorists

    How can normal people defend fanatics and terrorists?
    Forgot that Russia also suffers from them
    1. Apologet insane
      Apologet insane 16 November 2013 11: 40 New
      -6
      This is a tradition since the establishment of power by the Bolshevik bandits: to help their own kind. That is still admired by terrorists and sadists.
      1. tenere1200
        tenere1200 17 November 2013 14: 59 New
        +2
        When the freemason Trotsky was hit with an ice ax on a bulldozer, this addiction to helping terrorists ceased.
        1. Apologet insane
          Apologet insane 17 November 2013 18: 22 New
          -3
          Yeah, and all sorts of Nasser-Gaddafi and other Middle Eastern trash - not one big gang of terrorists or what?
          1. tenere1200
            tenere1200 18 November 2013 01: 17 New
            +2
            Quote: Apologet Insane
            Yeah, and all sorts of Nasser-Gaddafi and other Middle Eastern trash - not one big gang of terrorists or what?

            Why is Nasser a terrorist? Because he kicked the Naglosaks and Farouk into the bastard in this skin of the corrupt? Or because the Borzoi nationalized the Egyptian people’s grabbed by Western jackals nationalized? Or maybe because he was an ally of the USSR? Take away the Soviet flag. Put the hexagon. what are you squeezing.
            1. Apologet insane
              Apologet insane 19 November 2013 11: 45 New
              -3
              Yeah, and if we have some native peoples begin to nationalize the factories and power plants built by the metropolis, will you also approve of this behavior? The Egyptians themselves did nothing good, except for the pyramids, and even these are not at all the Egyptians that are today.
              1. tenere1200
                tenere1200 21 November 2013 23: 06 New
                0
                Quote: Apologet Insane
                Yeah, and if we have some native peoples begin to nationalize the factories and power plants built by the metropolis, will you also approve of this behavior? The Egyptians themselves did nothing good, except for the pyramids, and even these are not at all the Egyptians that are today.

                Yes, do not care that the Egyptians did not build anything worthwhile. Nasser was not on a foreign land, but he was directing on his orders, and he drove out the bloodsuckers in the person of arrogant Saxons and mattresses, if anything, from his territory. And now you are not to judge which Egyptians are. Who are you to measure the Egyptians yourself?
                1. Apologet insane
                  Apologet insane 23 November 2013 13: 39 New
                  -1
                  Arabs in Egypt are the same occupiers as the British and Americans. Let Egypt be given to the Copts, for that matter. And I judge the Egyptians with the same right as you judge the British and Americans.
                  1. tenere1200
                    tenere1200 25 November 2013 22: 45 New
                    0
                    Quote: Apologet Insane
                    Arabs in Egypt are the same occupiers as the British and Americans. Let Egypt be given to the Copts, for that matter. And I judge the Egyptians with the same right as you judge the British and Americans.

                    My country and I do not climb into other people's territories. Does not place rockets near foreign borders. does not undermine the economy of foreign countries. And arrogant Saxons and mattresses do this without stopping and without lunch breaks. Therefore, I consider them my class and ideological enemies. Like you, actually. A man on the other side of the barricade. I do not judge them. These are my enemies. Enemies of my people.
                    1. Apologet insane
                      Apologet insane 26 November 2013 06: 26 New
                      -1
                      Come on. Then let's give the Caucasus to the Caucasians, Karelia to the Karelians, the Far East to the Yakuts, Nanai and other tribes. Or is this not considered occupation and foreign territory?
                      1. tenere1200
                        tenere1200 5 December 2013 22: 56 New
                        0
                        Quote: Apologet Insane
                        Come on. Then let's give the Caucasus to the Caucasians, Karelia to the Karelians, the Far East to the Yakuts, Nanai and other tribes. Or is this not considered occupation and foreign territory?

                        Keep your pocket wider uncle. What's the use of arguing with you. Everyone will remain with his own. And you, the professor, and the pharaohs are the sworn "friends" of my Motherland.
                    2. faraon
                      faraon 26 November 2013 06: 52 New
                      0
                      My country and I do not climb into other people's territories. Does not place rockets near foreign borders. does not undermine the economy of foreign countries. And arrogant Saxons and mattresses do this without stopping and without lunch breaks. Therefore, I consider them my class and ideological enemies. Like you, actually. A man on the other side of the barricade. I do not judge them. These are my enemies. Enemies of my people.

                      Yes, it’s okay that trindet, does not climb, does not place, Well, in Cuba, who made a revolution with the subsequent installation of missiles, that the states almost got diarrhea from such a "kuzka mother. Vietnam helps the brotherly people in the liberation war against American aggressors, Afghanistan.
                      And as with the slogan "On the mountain to all bourgeoisie, we will fan the world fire."
                      Dear, it seems that you were in a coma and missed a lot during the time that you were in a coma.
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 26 November 2013 06: 55 New
                        +1
                        Quote: faraon
                        Yes, okay, then trindet, does not climb, does not place, But in Cuba, who made the revolution with the subsequent installation of missiles

                        Dear, you won’t believe it, but Khrushchev has already died, the USSR has collapsed and today is the end of 2013. And Roosia does not deploy missiles. So you come out of a coma.
                      2. faraon
                        faraon 26 November 2013 07: 02 New
                        +1
                        good morning! But Comrade Teneret identifies himself as a representative of the USSR, and not as a Russian, so this is the answer
                      3. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 26 November 2013 07: 14 New
                        +2
                        Quote: faraon
                        But comrade Teneret identifies himself as a representative of the USSR,

                        Hello! I was also born in the USSR, but now the country is different and it seems that the evil empire is now precisely the United States in everything and everything.
                      4. faraon
                        faraon 26 November 2013 10: 36 New
                        0
                        I agree to all 100% and am ready to subscribe to this. (+)
                2. tenere1200
                  tenere1200 5 December 2013 23: 07 New
                  0
                  Quote: faraon
                  My country and I do not climb into other people's territories. Does not place rockets near foreign borders. does not undermine the economy of foreign countries. And arrogant Saxons and mattresses do this without stopping and without lunch breaks. Therefore, I consider them my class and ideological enemies. Like you, actually. A man on the other side of the barricade. I do not judge them. These are my enemies. Enemies of my people.

                  Yes, it’s okay that trindet, does not climb, does not place, Well, in Cuba, who made a revolution with the subsequent installation of missiles, that the states almost got diarrhea from such a "kuzka mother. Vietnam helps the brotherly people in the liberation war against American aggressors, Afghanistan.
                  And as with the slogan "On the mountain to all bourgeoisie, we will fan the world fire."
                  Dear, it seems that you were in a coma and missed a lot during the time that you were in a coma.

                  Just in a coma you are a pharaoh. We put rockets in Cuba as opposed to mattresses, and removed them later. And your superiors plugged all our borders with missiles of different lengths like a stockade. So who is the axis of evil, and the occupier - I personally understand. Mattress covers. As for the flag, I was born in the USSR. Live in Russia. And the Soviet Union is closer to me. Therefore, the flag is red. And what from this ? Do you have anything against my flag?
                  By the way, the fire of world "democratic capitalism" was fanned hotter and faster. But soon we will pour on this fire.
  • WASABI
    WASABI 16 November 2013 11: 44 New
    +9
    Quote: bulvas
    From Israel, have there ever been acts of violence against the USSR or Russia?

    Enlighten yourself a little ...
    In 1991, the Soviet Union, in which millions of Soviet people invested so much labor, was destroyed.

    By whom???

    Again, Jews, like Russia in 1917.

    In 2007, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert openly admitted this. He publicly thanked Soviet Jews for the collapse of the USSR!
    According to the portal "Israel Bulletin", on the evening of December 5 in the capital's Palace of the Nation ("Binyanei ha-uma"), a festive ceremony was held dedicated to the 40th anniversary of the beginning of the struggle for the repatriation of Jews from the USSR to Israel. The event, organized by the Ministry of Absorption and Sokhnut, was also attended by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, whose parents also emigrated from the Soviet state at one time.

    Speaking to veterans of the movement and former "refuseniks", Olmert said that the repatriates who won the right to leave had made a significant contribution to the collapse of the USSR. In addition, the prime minister said, Soviet Jews have significantly changed Israel itself, making the country richer, more diverse and more prosperous.

    “This is not empty bragging. The Soviet regime could not resist courageous Jews, ”Olmert said, recalling that the Soviet Jews were inspired by Israel’s“ great victory ”in the 1967 war against Arab countries“ equipped with the best Soviet weapons. ”

    As heroes fighting for the rights of Jews in the USSR, Olmert named the participants in the so-called “aircraft business” - a group of Jews who tried to leave the Soviet Union on a hijacked airliner. “The Leningrad process, during which dozens of people were convicted, led by Eduard Kuznetsov, Mark Dymshits, Silva Zalmanson and her two brothers, Wulf and Israel Zalmanson, Joseph Mendelevich and others for their attempt to hijack the plane to break free on it, - caused a tremendous response around the world, ”said Olmert.

    It is noteworthy that the Palestinians who hijacked the planes, the Israeli authorities are clearly called terrorists.


    http://temydnya.mirtesen.ru/blog/43573069752/Putin-myagko-nameknul-%22mirovomu-e
    vreystvu%22,-chto-mozhet-otryit-%22?pad=1&announce=1&pad_page=0&utm_campaign=tra
    nsit & utm_source = main & utm_medium = page_0


    Maybe more?
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 16 November 2013 11: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: VASABI
      Enlighten yourself a little ...


      Girl, I enlighten: would you go to the kitchen with such arguments

      but in essence: the USSR collapsed primarily the CPSU, the officials from which wanted to legalize the stolen money. It was the CPSU who handed over the position of the USSR for the next loans of the West, which it safely appropriated and hid in Western banks.
      If it weren’t for the rush with which the party bonuses were grabbing and taking out loans, it would be possible to calmly reform the country and economy, without losses and economic disasters.

      As they say, a donkey loaded with gold can take any impregnable fortress. It was this fate that befell the USSR.

      Wake up, the main enemy of the Russian man is his laziness and "maybe"
      1. WASABI
        WASABI 16 November 2013 12: 42 New
        10
        Quote: bulvas
        would you go to the kitchen with such reasoning

        ??? But I can send you too ... And not only to the kitchen ...
        Quote: bulvas
        in essence: the USSR collapsed primarily the CPSU

        Bravo!!! Alain Dales, Brzezinski, Ehud Olmert and many others, primarily Menachem Schneerson applaud you (someone from the Other World).
        Not only are you, dear, ignorant, you are also an aggressive ignoramus ...
        1. Doctorleg
          Doctorleg 16 November 2013 13: 14 New
          -4
          Quote: VASABI
          Quote: bulvas
          would you go to the kitchen with such reasoning

          ??? But I can send you too ... And not only to the kitchen ...
          Quote: bulvas
          in essence: the USSR collapsed primarily the CPSU

          Bravo!!! Alain Dales, Brzezinski, Ehud Olmert and many others, primarily Menachem Schneerson applaud you (someone from the Other World).
          Not only are you, dear, ignorant, you are also an aggressive ignoramus ...

          It seems like an aggressive ignoramus. Read Olmert carefully. He spoke specifically about the departure of Jews from the USSR (who were not released for some reason). Well, it turns out this departure led to the collapse of the Union (in your opinion). From the opposite - would remain - would the USSR survive?
          1. WASABI
            WASABI 16 November 2013 14: 11 New
            +6
            Quote: DoctorOleg
            Read Olmert carefully. He spoke specifically about the departure of Jews from the USSR

            For you, the Russian language, apparently, is the second one, if EVEN you can’t read what you wrote! Well, what else can you talk to you about. Learn Russian, then I'll bet ...
            1. Doctorleg
              Doctorleg 16 November 2013 15: 18 New
              -7
              Quote: VASABI
              Quote: DoctorOleg
              Read Olmert carefully. He spoke specifically about the departure of Jews from the USSR

              For you, the Russian language, apparently, is the second one, if EVEN you can’t read what you wrote! Well, what else can you talk to you about. Learn Russian, then I'll bet ...

              To your regret, Russian is my native language. This speech of Olmert is replicated on this site all the time, though with different variations. Read carefully the source. Retelling often distorts meaning. Do not be so aggressive, read scientific books and articles - this develops the ability to argue reasonably and with respect for the opponent and his point of view. Not always your thought is correct
              1. WASABI
                WASABI 16 November 2013 15: 31 New
                +5
                Quote: DoctorOleg
                Read carefully the source.

                I read it in the original language.
                Quote: DoctorOleg
                Do not be so aggressive, read scientific books and articles - this develops the ability to argue reasonably and with respect to the opponent and his point of view.

                This is out of great respect for me as an opponent, did you decide to send me to the kitchen? Not so kind, "what we fought for, we ran into it"!
                1. Doctorleg
                  Doctorleg 16 November 2013 17: 18 New
                  0
                  Quote: VASABI
                  Quote: DoctorOleg
                  Read carefully the source.

                  I read it in the original language.
                  Quote: DoctorOleg
                  Do not be so aggressive, read scientific books and articles - this develops the ability to argue reasonably and with respect to the opponent and his point of view.

                  This is out of great respect for me as an opponent, did you decide to send me to the kitchen? Not so kind, "what we fought for, we ran into it"!

                  You mixed me up with bulvas, I didn’t send to the kitchen
                2. faraon
                  faraon 18 November 2013 07: 02 New
                  0
                  I read it in the original language

                  Do you read in Hebrew? Then why are you misinterpreting the text, Dr. Oleg gave you the right recommendation, read carefully the original sources.
            2. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 15: 40 New
              0
              Quote: VASABI
              Quote: DoctorOleg
              Read Olmert carefully. He spoke specifically about the departure of Jews from the USSR

              For you, the Russian language, apparently, is the second one, if EVEN you can’t read what you wrote! Well, what else can you talk to you about. Learn Russian, then I'll bet ...

              And how did the Jews by 1985 not having a single representative in the Polyutburo, in the Central Committee, in the Council of Ministers, in the KGB, in the Defense Ministry, in the General Staff in the leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Gosplan manage to ruin the USSR? It was they who, in 86, took to the streets of Alma-Ata, set up the Rashidov case, smashed the Meskhite Turks in Ferghana, created the Karabakh conflict and dispersed rallies in Georgia and the Baltic states? Did they ruin agriculture and the atomic industry? Did they create a shortage of household appliances and shoes? Not if it is like that, I really don’t know much and would like to read how they managed to do it.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 17 November 2013 19: 23 New
                +3
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                And how did the Jews by 1985 not having a single representative in the Polyutburo, in the Central Committee, in the Council of Ministers, in the KGB, in the Moscow Region, in the General Staff in the leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Gosplan manage to ruin the USSR

                But what about the wives? The principle of the night cuckoo has not been canceled. We all Esther.
          2. builder
            builder 17 November 2013 12: 52 New
            0
            Quote: bulvas
            would you go to the kitchen with such reasoning

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      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 16 November 2013 14: 42 New
        +9
        Quote: bulvas
        Girl, I enlighten: would you go to the kitchen with such arguments


        I look your reference book can be considered DOMOSTROY?

        The girl writes correctly. And if, apart from male chauvinism, there is nothing to say on the topic, then you don’t need to say
        1. WASABI
          WASABI 16 November 2013 15: 02 New
          +5
          Quote: Tatarus
          The girl writes correctly.

          Thank you! love
  • igor67
    igor67 16 November 2013 13: 38 New
    0
    Quote: bulvas
    Something is not clear. It is known that hezbola supported and supports the militants in the Caucasus, in Soviet times there were acts against the USSR.

    From Israel, have there ever been acts of violence against the USSR or Russia?

    Why are there people with the flags of Russia and the USSR here defending hezbola and opposing Israel?
    I suspect these people are either Muslims or work for Muslim terrorists

    How can normal people defend fanatics and terrorists?
    Forgot that Russia also suffers from them

    They probably didn’t forget just hatred of Jews (incomprehensible) overpowering, already wrote above, now the battle is going on in Dagestan, with Sokolov, who organized a terrorist attack in Volgograd, by the way he is a Wahhabist, not a Zionist, and was funded in the same way as Hamas from Saudi Arabia, but unless WASABI Does it bother that people in Russia die from the same freaks as in Israel? By the way, one of my grandfather died near Stalingrad, the second grandfather and grandmother reached Berlin 2 Ukrainian, and the military decorations were the same, and both died from the wounds received during the war, I can bring other relatives, but BUT it’s their merit, and not mine and neither yours, so the girl is responsible for yourself please!
  • beard999
    beard999 16 November 2013 16: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: bulvas
    it is known that hezbola supported and supports the militants in the Caucasus

    Can you provide evidence for this?
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 11: 38 New
    -9
    Quote: VASABI
    Quote: And Us Rat

    And Us Rat

    This is the answer to you with your nickname !!! love


    lol lol lol
    1. WASABI
      WASABI 16 November 2013 11: 55 New
      15
      А Us Rat
      Yes, so then "nothing", but a similar nickname would be appropriate somewhere on the site of Israel's sewers ...
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 16 November 2013 12: 48 New
        +7
        Quote: VASABI
        but such a nickname would be appropriate somewhere on the site of the Israeli scavengers ...

        Plus you, dear WASABI for your wonderful sense of humor! love
  • olviko
    olviko 16 November 2013 11: 50 New
    +9
    And Us Mother IL
    "If you have to fight to the last man"

    Not everything is so sad, it looks like someone will remain. In Israel, universal military service is introduced, there is a clear solution to this problem, proposed by the government and approved in parliament. Quotas for yeshivas, according to which students have the right to avoid military service, will be reduced; abolished benefits for those who did not serve in the army. But the opponents of the "militarized", "nationalist" state are Jewish religious orthodoxies. As paradoxical as it may seem, the people of the Torah are increasingly speaking in a united front with the Arab Israelis. What unites them is their dislike for politics that returns Israel to the ideas of the founding fathers, who sought to replace an archaic identity based on religion with modern secular nationalism. Of course, most of all the Orthodox were outraged by the call of students of religious institutions to the IDF. Although Judaism does not deny war and the army as a structure and recognizes the importance of such a task as the protection of the Land of Israel, the rabbis argue against military service with the argument that for the Jew, God, and not the state, should be above all. Some Orthodox even believe that itself Israel's existence is not a godly cause. In their opinion, the Jewish state, destroyed two thousand years ago, can be recreated only with the arrival of the Messiah, the appearance of which is said by the Jewish tradition. There is a version that this ultra-radical group is collaborating with the enemies of Israel and making efforts to destroy it. “The main thing is that a citizen remains loyal to the State of Israel,” Lieberman explains his position, “therefore, for me, for example, there is no fundamental difference between Rabbi Hirsch from Guardians of the City (a Jewish ultra-Orthodox extremist religious community opposing the existence of Israel) and Sheikh Rad Salah from the "Islamic Movement". Both hate our state, support Iran and deny the Holocaust. ”I wonder how this“ fifth column ”will fight for Israel if it considers the very existence of Israel to be not a godly deed.
    1. Katsin1
      Katsin1 16 November 2013 12: 07 New
      0
      This sect of geeks Naturai Karta has a total of 2000 people and enjoys the scorn of the entire Jewish people, including ultra-Orthodox
      1. olviko
        olviko 16 November 2013 14: 06 New
        +6
        Jerusalem, Israel, Jewish ultra-Orthodox took their children to the streets in protest against their possible military service. Some children were symbolically handcuffed ... Such dissatisfaction with the ultra-Orthodox of Israel is caused by the fact that their release from compulsory military service is recognized as unconstitutional and this provision expires in August, after which many will have to change their kippa to a helmet ..
        I read that about half a million people are haredim in Israel.
        1. faraon
          faraon 19 November 2013 01: 34 New
          0
          There is no need to look so one-sided at this situation. The question is not about whether to serve or not. The question is in social justice. The Israeli army has units where Druze, Bedouins, people from different communities of different religions other than Judaism serve. In this case, with khoredim created for them their own battalion "nahal-haredim" with their commanders, in which they serve, teach the Torah, participate in the combat unit in the combat operations of the IDF. And there are also many movements of Judaism that, living according to the precepts of the Torah, consider and a sacred duty to be the defender of the Motherland.
          This is one of the main Talmudic commandments to protect and preserve the country given by God. It is also indicated in the Torah that if danger looms over the country, the High Priests of the saints of Israel should take up arms and go to defend the Fatherland.
          What you showed in the photo are children of degenerates who do not recognize the existence of the state, the so-called "Naturei karta". But for some reason they demand and enjoy all the benefits and benefits of the state. At this time they were driven away from the trough, so they are protesting.
          1. builder
            builder 19 November 2013 01: 39 New
            0
            Are there many religious sects in Israel?
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 11: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: bulvas
    Something is not clear. It is known that hezbola supported and supports the militants in the Caucasus, in Soviet times there were acts against the USSR.

    From Israel, have there ever been acts of violence against the USSR or Russia?

    Why are there people with the flags of Russia and the USSR here defending hezbola and opposing Israel?
    I suspect these people are either Muslims or work for Muslim terrorists

    How can normal people defend fanatics and terrorists?
    Forgot that Russia also suffers from them


    Yes, they forgot.
    1. WASABI
      WASABI 16 November 2013 12: 50 New
      +6
      Quote: And Us Rat
      Yes, they forgot.

      To your regret, with memory, everything is fine ...
      We also remember this ...
      1. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 16 November 2013 13: 22 New
        -4
        Quote: VASABI
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Yes, they forgot.

        To your regret, with memory, everything is fine ...
        We also remember this ...

        It looks like you have a good memory. Can you remember the Russian policemen ?. By the way, in the Smolensk region it was the Russian policemen who shot the Jews. And this is not accurate, because my great-grandmother and great-grandfather died there (as you know, not bankers). There are scoundrels in every nation. And mind you, these Jewish policemen were unarmed. Yes, and they do not see smiles. For example, in Warsaw the ghetto was large and people were different, respectively, criminals, including ... It was necessary to maintain some kind of order.
        1. WASABI
          WASABI 16 November 2013 14: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: DoctorOleg
          it was the Russian policemen who shot the Jews.

          Well, the pipes! Jews were shot by Boviks from the UPA and part of the SS, including some from among Lithuanian and Estonian citizens.
          1. Doctorleg
            Doctorleg 16 November 2013 15: 30 New
            -3
            Quote: VASABI
            Quote: DoctorOleg
            it was the Russian policemen who shot the Jews.

            Well, the pipes! Jews were shot by Boviks from the UPA and part of the SS, including some from among Lithuanian and Estonian citizens.

            These are not horns. I am talking about a specific event that was in the village of Shumyachi, Smolensk region. There were no militants from the UPA, but there were Russians, including from this village. My grandmother was told about the shooting of her parents when she returned from the evacuation (she was the wife of a political worker and she and her father were taken out on the eve of the occupation). In total, more than 500 people were killed.
          2. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 15: 57 New
            -2
            http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/29-я_гренадерская_дивизия_СС_«РОНА»_(1-я_русская)
            http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Локотское_самоуправление
            Still ?
    2. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 16 November 2013 13: 21 New
      +4
      What tell about it, about whom tears ...:Every third Israeli child is below the poverty line

      In anticipation of World Children's Day, celebrated on November 20, Israeli Minister of Social Security Meir Cohen announced frightening statistics regarding the material well-being of citizens of the country in general and children in particular.
      see http: //cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti/2013/11/11/kazhdiy-tretiy-izrailskiy-reb
      enok-nahoditsya-za-chertoy-bednosti /
      1. atalef
        atalef 16 November 2013 13: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: Valery Neonov
        In anticipation of World Children's Day, celebrated on November 20, Israeli Minister of Social Security Meir Cohen announced frightening statistics regarding the material well-being of citizens of the country in general and children in particular.
        see http: //cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti/2013/11/11/kazhdiy-tretiy-izrailskiy-reb

        enok-nahoditsya-za-chertoy-bednosti /

        Yes, yes - again, the budget of the National Insurance Service is not enough. Another scarecrow. It’s strange. a year ago - there was every fifth. now every third.
        And as soon as the budget for the next year will be accepted (and the National Insurance Service) will receive their money. so only winning reports about their work will listen. and before the new budget - again - hunger. poverty. swelling from hunger children.
        A tear to let or what?
      2. The fat man
        The fat man 16 November 2013 22: 34 New
        +1
        to be honest, our poor would live like Israeli crying
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 11: 58 New
    -6
    Quote: VASABI
    А Us Rat
    Yes, so then "nothing", but a similar nickname would be appropriate somewhere on the site of Israel's sewers ...
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 12: 01 New
    -9
    Quote: bya965
    Quote: VASABI
    If only I - Russian, a Jew taught the Russian language!

    I also always finish off when they climb into the dictionary and say that it’s not according to the rules. Russian people do not follow the rules. We have no books where everything is painted. We live in the future, and they are the past.

    Klimov's verses (studied at the university together)

    Yes, the revolution is made
    By the Jews.
    And at that moment we are their country
    They gave it away.
    But the wings of the Russian giant
    Straightened
    And the texts of Marxist doctrines
    Corrected.
    And the flag of brilliant victories
    It was red.
    And this is until the death of
    Our holiday.
    And let them sit in the Kremlin now
    Pygmies.
    We defeat this
    We can do it!
    1. WASABI
      WASABI 16 November 2013 14: 24 New
      +5
      And the Jews boast that they are very smart! Reading this And Us Mother’s, I begin to strongly doubt not only the superlative degree of the mind, but also the presence of gray matter in general among these people. A Jew will forgive me, but by such representatives far-reaching conclusions can be drawn ... I'm sorry ...
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 15: 43 New
        -5
        Quote: VASABI
        I'm sorry ...

        Do not regret it. But personally, it doesn’t matter to me at all what you and your like think about us. It makes us neither cold nor hot.
        1. UmaR
          UmaR 16 November 2013 18: 18 New
          0
          The time will come you will be hot ... am
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 18: 50 New
            -3
            Quote: UmaR
            The time will come you will be hot ... am

            You are not for us, you are upsetting for the Stavropol Territory. It’s hotter than ours.
            1. UmaR
              UmaR 16 November 2013 21: 39 New
              +2
              Everything is calm in the Stavropol Territory, well, well, you certainly would like it to be hot not only there but also in other parts of the world, but no, you won’t wait ...! tongue
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 16 November 2013 22: 06 New
                -1
                Quote: UmaR
                Everything is calm in the Stavropol Territory, well, well, you certainly would like it to be hot not only there but also in other parts of the world, but no, you won’t wait ...! tongue

                And my friend in another forum, who lives in Stavropol, says that the Russians are boiling there. And some will feel it soon. Are you Umar not from Stavropol?
                1. UmaR
                  UmaR 16 November 2013 23: 53 New
                  +2
                  You are talking about the fact that some poor fellows go there to work, but the local poor fellows don’t like it, and even with the hijab there is something that I personally against hijabs are things that are alien to us all, those fools who boil let them calm down if someone behaves badly or breaks order and so on, for them there are law enforcement agencies, even if they are engaged in them, these are trifles of life. And you crave, of course, that it will outgrow some kind of conflict, dream about it yes haha, I repeat, you won’t wait tongue !!!


                  By the way, my acquaintances also told me something interesting, during the war when Grozny bombed in the basements of the city there were Chechens and Russians and other nationalities, but among them there weren’t more than one Jew, after all, there were Jews in Grozny but they left it in time what will happen but no one was warned not even by their neighbors who lived nearby all their lives, the clergyman left like rats, an interesting fact, aren’t they, you are such Jews in a word ... where I come from is not your dog business as they say!
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 17 November 2013 10: 33 New
                    -1
                    Quote: UmaR
                    By the way, my acquaintances also told me something interesting, during the war when Grozny bombed in the basements of the city there were Chechens and Russians and other nationalities, but among them there weren’t more than one Jew, because there were Jews in Grozny but they knew right away what will happen but no one was warned even by their neighbors who lived nearby all their lives, the clergyman left like rats, an interesting fact, aren’t they, you are such Jewish people in a word ...

                    Cool story. good
                    1. UmaR
                      UmaR 17 November 2013 14: 29 New
                      0
                      Of course it's cool for you, but for those who were in the basements ... crying
      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 16 November 2013 15: 47 New
        +5
        Quote: VASABI
        Reading this And Us Mother’s, I begin to strongly doubt not only the superlative degree of the mind, but also the presence of gray matter in general among these people.


        Yes, he may not be a Jew at all. In general, I sometimes doubt that the guys with the flags of Israel live there and are Jews. They sometimes deliberately inflate hatred. Moreover, when discussing articles not related to Israel. Such guan-throws are made to revitalize website communication.
      3. bya965
        bya965 16 November 2013 16: 57 New
        +5
        Quote: VASABI
        And the Jews boast that they are very smart

        The English wiki had an interesting table about the average IQ of the countries of the world. There, the Russian Federation was several points higher than Israel. About six months ago, through the efforts of the article they threw such an interesting table and it can be found only in the history of editing.
        In science, they are so-so, of course, there are outstanding scientists and respected people, but as a rule, in the sum they do much more harm than good.
        The Romans had a saying: "Foolish as a Jew." The truth is that I can't find it on the Internet.
        They, by their stupidity, even rubbed Russian proverbs about themselves from Dahl's explanatory dictionary under Soviet rule.
  • bulvas
    bulvas 16 November 2013 12: 03 New
    +1
    Do many know that Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf was Yasser Arafat's reference book?
    This did not prevent the USSR from supporting it by all means and means.

    Saddam Hussein, through torture and purge, among his officers destroyed the communist infection in his army, but this did not stop the USSR from giving him gifts in the form of billions of arms and training his army.

    And all the same, the Jews are to blame for our troubles
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 12: 12 New
    -2
    Quote: bulvas
    Do many know that Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf was Yasser Arafat's reference book?
    This did not prevent the USSR from supporting it by all means and means.

    Saddam Hussein, through torture and purge, among his officers destroyed the communist infection in his army, but this did not stop the USSR from giving him gifts in the form of billions of arms and training his army.

    And all the same, the Jews are to blame for our troubles
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 16 November 2013 15: 48 New
      +2
      It’s ridiculous. If not sad.
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 12: 14 New
    -2
    Quote: Katsin1
    I am Jewish and live in Israel. I am skeptical about the patriotism and advice of Jews from abroad. In the same way, I am skeptical about the patriotism of Russians who chose not to live in Russia


    But I was missing you here.
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 12: 21 New
    -6
    Quote: VASABI
    Quote: And Us Rat
    Hey people, here one girl pities a jackal who taught how to RUSSIAN SOLDIERS to cut off his head with a knife more correctly. Who wants to support her?

    "This girl" has a father and an uncle - military officers. Each "iconostasis" of military orders is such that you would want to stand at attention in their presence, but none of their lower ones NEVER relished the details of the elimination of some odious personalities, like a professor.
    And the people have nothing to do with it. We have normal adequate people, without psychopathic and cannibalistic inclinations, unlike some ...


    One of my grandfathers took Berlin, the second partisan against the Nazis and was wounded 4 times, so that such "daughters of the military" would flaunt here NOT by their own merits. Yes, and I, as it were, are not familiar with military operations from the films (the icon on my avatar is not just "cool trick" and not "from a damn about" I put there)
    1. Katsin1
      Katsin1 16 November 2013 12: 24 New
      -7
      זה סיירת צנחנים?
      1. WASABI
        WASABI 16 November 2013 14: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: Katsin1
        זה סיירת צנחנים?

        Not really
    2. WASABI
      WASABI 16 November 2013 14: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: And Us Rat
      the badge on my avatar is not just a "cool trick"

      Yes??? What is this ???
  • Same lech
    Same lech 16 November 2013 12: 29 New
    +5
    I read the comments and the glorious article turned out to be a discussion of the citizens of ISRAEL and the rest of the FORUM, I would like to know the opinion of the representatives of hezbollah themselves on this forum live (as if to invite them to this scientific conversation).
    1. Katsin1
      Katsin1 16 November 2013 12: 34 New
      -1
      You can invite Jamal or Maxim Shevchenko. These are Russian-speaking shouts of Islamofascists
  • castle
    castle 16 November 2013 12: 36 New
    -7
    Katsin1- what paratroopers? And for the rest. Thank God that Israel is. He at least partially takes the blow of Islamic scumbags, and he helps Russia. Were it not for Israel, Muslim extremists would have long made Russia a caliphate.
    1. Black
      Black 16 November 2013 12: 47 New
      +6
      Quote: hrad
      Were it not for Israel, Muslim extremists would have long made Russia a caliphate.

      Oh how! Where to ship raisins and bag of apricots ??
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 12: 56 New
    -2
    Quote: The same Lech
    I read the comments and the glorious article turned out to be a discussion of the citizens of ISRAEL and the rest of the FORUM, I would like to know the opinion of the representatives of hezbollah themselves on this forum live (as if to invite them to this scientific conversation).


    They have something like this (listen carefully on 1: 18)
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 16 November 2013 16: 24 New
      +1
      They smile beautifully and wave their fingers but they have already been answered and will respond in a similar way
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 13: 02 New
    -4
    Quote: Chen
    Quote: hrad
    Were it not for Israel, Muslim extremists would have long made Russia a caliphate.

    Oh how! Where to ship raisins and bag of apricots ??


    Instructive video:

    1. builder
      builder 16 November 2013 15: 37 New
      +4
      Nothing instructive - a talking bearded monkey in a turban.
    2. The comment was deleted.
  • olviko
    olviko 16 November 2013 13: 09 New
    +3
    bulvas RU
    "Do many know that Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf was Yasser Arafat's reference book?"

    He probably wanted to study his fellow countrymen as best as possible, because Aloizovich himself was a Jew on his father.
    This passport, stamped in Vienna in 1941, was found among declassified British documents from the Second World War. The passport was stored in the archives of the British intelligence special forces, which led the espionage and sabotage operations in Nazi-occupied European countries. The passport was first published on February 8, 2002 in London. On the cover of the passport is a stamp certifying that Hitler is a Jew. The passport contains a photograph of Hitler, as well as his signature and visa stamp allowing him to settle in Palestine. In 2010, samples of the saliva of 39 relatives of Adolf Hitler were examined. Tests have shown that Hitler's DNA has a haplogroup marker E1b1b1. According to the scientific classification, its owners are speakers of Hamitic-Semitic languages, and according to the biblical classification, are Jews, descendants of Ham. Haplogroup E1b1b1 is determined by the Y chromosome, that is, it shows heredity by father. The study was conducted by journalist Jean-Paul Mulders and historian Marc Vermeerem, and the results are published in the Belgian journal Knack (By Michael Sheridan. Nazi leader Adolf Hitler had Jewish and African relatives, DNA test recommend. " DAILY NEWS. ”Tuesday, August 24th 2010.).
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 16 November 2013 15: 13 New
      +8
      Long before Hitler, the Jews created the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", which described that the Jews should become the dominant nation. Almost all of the rest of the population must be destroyed. And the rest must become slaves to the Jews. So much for the reaction of the Germans. Why love you, for obscurantism, for the genocide of other nations planned and being carried out now. You're worse than the Nazis now!
    2. Asan Ata
      Asan Ata 16 November 2013 23: 04 New
      +4
      Hitler in 1941 needed a passport of the country which back in 1938 was annexed to the Third Reich? Do not make me laugh!
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 13: 15 New
    0
    Quote: Katsin1
    זה סיירת צנחנים?

    No, this is a historical icon - not used today. Tribute.
    Saeret Tsanhanim (the icon in the photo below)

    And no - I did not serve there.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 16 November 2013 13: 27 New
    -4
    About the article - the author has little idea of ​​the tactics of the Israeli army: for example, about the work of individual battle groups.
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 13: 49 New
    -4
    Quote: Pimply
    About the article - the author has little idea of ​​the tactics of the Israeli army: for example, about the work of individual battle groups.


    Weak - softly said
  • And Us Rat
    And Us Rat 16 November 2013 14: 08 New
    -1
    Quote: Dmitry
    yes just live!


    This is just what interferes with some