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“People there understand what Russia is” :: Interview with a priest serving in the Caucasus in hot spots

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“People there understand what Russia is” :: Interview with a priest serving in the Caucasus in hot spotsThe other day, Archpriest Andrei Tulyakov, rector of the Vologda church in the name of the Holy Prince Alexander Nevsky, returned from the “pastoral mission” to the Caucasus. Father Andrei, the head of the department for interaction with the armed forces, law enforcement agencies and the Cossacks of the Vologda diocese, went there with police officers who had to serve for half a year in the far from easy conditions of the Caucasus, and during the week communicated with our children in Chechnya, Dagestan and Kabardino Balkaria. We asked the priest a few questions.


- Father Andrey, was this your first trip to the Caucasus?
- No, this is the fourth pastoral journey in the last two years. In general, clergymen of the Alexander Nevsky Church of Vologda have been constantly traveling to the Caucasus since the beginning of the 2000s. I just continue once started a good cause.

- Were not afraid to go?
- Rather, I was worried: I was always very worried about the good service, about finding the right word for the soldiers asking you about something important for them. And, of course, you hope in God. There is no fear: first, now the Caucasus is still calmer than a couple of years ago; secondly, be afraid - do not be afraid, but the priest must bear his service, as well as our military and policemen; and thirdly, if you hope in God, then fear retreats - millions of times checked. So the main thing is the same anxiety that experienced during the ordination: to serve adequately.

- Where were you in the Caucasus?
- In Kabardino-Balkaria, in Nalchik - there is a detachment of the Vologda Special SOBR located there; then in Dagestan, in Khasavyurt - there is a consolidated detachment of our policemen; then in Chechnya, in the village of Shalazhi — our OMON is there.

- You talked about the dignity of service. And what is it, this pastoral ministry? What are its features in the Caucasus?
“I am convinced that it is both natural and necessary to teach blessing to people, our soldiers, who carry out the most difficult and noble service for the good of the Fatherland. Both for the Church of Christ, and for the soldiers themselves, and for their loved ones and relatives who stayed at home. And, therefore, for all of us. We say: "Our army", "Our country", "Our Russia"? If we don’t say, then it’s a disaster: both Russia and us. But most, I know, still says. And behind the words should be the case. With such words and deeds we become compatriots. Without this, we are some sort of “partner”. So, I think, the pastoral service in the Caucasus also includes enhanced patriotic education. It is always vital, it’s just that its need is tangible: it’s visible that its relevance is seen in our society. You see, there you will never hear this criminal and squeamish: “this country” - there people understand what Russia is. And often they die for the Fatherland.

- How do locals behave in relation to Russians? How is life there?
- Let's not forget that, more recently, the Russians were also local residents in the Caucasus. And if you take purely external impressions, then I was surprised by the beautiful roads built in Chechnya, the large, spacious houses, cleanliness and wealth - especially in Grozny, Gudermes, Shali. In Kabardino-Balkaria, a huge number of Mercedes, Chrysler and other car dealerships were surprised. I didn’t see Avtovaz there, and I think it’s not easy to do. Such a picture against the background of official statistics on the highest unemployment rate in the country runs counter to the idea that the unemployed are poor, ragged, and hungry. And at the same time it makes one think about the origin of the money for which all these Mercedes and Chrysler are bought. But it is, by the way.

In Grozny, near the heart of Chechnya mosque, there is a small Orthodox church in the name of the Archangel Michael. The young senior priest of the church, Father Alexy, told me that a small Russian community remained in the city, that the temple was being helped by the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, that there was a small parish house.

The Orthodox Church has been preserved in Khasavyurt. There, the Orthodox community is bigger than in Grozny. There is a cemetery: one part is Muslim, the other is Christian. By the way, the cemetery is beautifully maintained, no vandalism is not there. I know that in Kosovo, in Mitrovica, there is a Muslim cemetery in the Serb part and a Christian cemetery in Albania. And if the Muslim cemetery on the Orthodox side is safe and sound, then the Serbian in the Albanian - desecrated and destroyed along with the church. This, thank God, is not in the Caucasus.

And the majority of Caucasians treat Russians with respect and love. Here, for example, our children say that in conversations with them there are often requests that the Russian police remain there: they say, there is little hope for their young ones in terms of order and law.

- And this is not flattery? Sincere words, what do you think?
- I think that sincere. Caucasians do not need war - they themselves suffer from them. After all, hostile sentiments are kindled in the Caucasus and controlled from the outside. Financing of gangs also comes from abroad. In these gangs - representatives of absolutely all nationalities. And they have learned to cover up their crimes with the “struggle for the purity of Islam”. A religious card is also played by recruiting local youth into gangs. However, this is just such a “decent” cover, or something: in fact, direct threats are much more often used (“if you don’t go to the mountains with us - we will kill the family”), blackmail, poor financial situation of the family, man’s vanity (“what you are a man, if you go without a machine gun? ”), many types of psychological treatment. So, the local Caucasian population, especially the young one, is simply a changeable map for large and very dirty geopolitical as well as economic games.

- Often you hear these words: “What is Russia doing in the Caucasus at all?” We would build a big wall around the mountains - and everything will be fine. "
- It will not be all right. On the contrary - it will be even worse. If we leave the Caucasus, the Kosovo case will seem like a child's play: it will be much worse. And the fences, about which their supporters like to say so much, we will have to push deeper and deeper into Russia - until they surround the “Russian Orthodox ghetto” allocated to us. However, I generally doubt that even the ghetto will be set aside for the Orthodox - we are talking about the destruction of Christianity and Russia at the root. Think: how many Russians have become refugees lately because of the wars in the Caucasus! Official statistics do not like to talk about this, but there are no fewer refugees. We will leave from there - gangs will move further. Lose and Stavropol, and Volgograd, and so on.

Do not think that the enemies of Russia are a horror story of self-assured “hurray-patriots”. We have enemies who aggressively pursue their goals. We are, thank God, fighting. Let's stop fighting - we will simply be crushed, we will be crushed into powder. I think all our warriors understand this well.

- What do soldiers and policemen think about the appearance of a priest?
- Very friendly! Often in difficult situations, devoid of the usual peace and comfort, a person remembers God, the Church. When you do not know what is preparing you not only for the next day, but for the next second, you begin to be convinced of the need to establish a trusting and good relationship with Christ. So for very many of our soldiers and policemen, such our business trips are a reason for thinking about God and eternity. For many - and an occasion for very serious reflections and actions. So there is a blessing in disguise: even danger can be used as an opportunity to draw closer to God. If in peacetime we do it badly ... Although it would be better to work - you see, and the need for danger would disappear.

And how do we meet the priests? - With joy. Together with the Vologda guys in Khasavyurt there were policemen from Magadan, in Shalazhi - from Rostov and Saratov. They see that the priest has come to Vologda, everyone goes: “Father, bless, we are for prayer”. All the joy - and the priest, and our children, too, feel themselves the masters: after all, the "their" father has arrived.

I think the time of savagery has long passed, when people were running from the priest with horror eyes, having been tipped off by "anti-religious propaganda." Now the guys, and even more so in such conditions, know why the priest comes. It should be noted once again that service in the army or in the police in such conditions is a good reason for the qualitative improvement of a person’s spiritual literacy. Such conditions contribute to the fact that a person begins to be interested in things that are much more important than what kind of hand to put a candle or from what metal to buy a cross. People think about more serious - real - questions of the spiritual life.

- Still going to go to the Caucasus?
- The priest has a military principle: I must go - I will go. God willing, succeed.
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 12 November 2013 07: 42
    31
    If we leave the Caucasus, then the case of Kosovo will seem to us a child’s game: it will be worse at times.
    Let's leave from there - the gangs will move on. We will lose both the Stavropol Territory and Volgograd, and so on.

    There is nothing to argue, he said everything correctly. No wonder the liberals scream about the secession of the Caucasus. Everything is interconnected!
    1. Canep
      Canep 12 November 2013 09: 06
      17
      You are right EBN once left Chechnya, and then there was Budennovsk (Stavropol Territory). If you do not keep the Caucasus under control, lawlessness will spread.
      1. I am
        I am 12 November 2013 20: 29
        +2
        Control is easier to hold than to restore constitutional order later !!!!
      2. Mite27
        Mite27 12 November 2013 21: 24
        0
        Budennovsk was when EBN did not leave Chechnya, 95g. active military operations were underway.
    2. ed65b
      ed65b 12 November 2013 09: 37
      -10 qualifying.
      Quote: MIKHAN
      If we leave the Caucasus, then the case of Kosovo will seem to us a child’s game: it will be worse at times.
      Let's leave from there - the gangs will move on. We will lose both the Stavropol Territory and Volgograd, and so on.

      There is nothing to argue, he said everything correctly. No wonder the liberals scream about the secession of the Caucasus. Everything is interconnected!

      I do not agree, Father is a liberal, the Lord tells him not to talk about retribution, He does not consider the option of everyone underground in a wooden mac? But they can do so with the "wild ones." And the "wild" know about it. so they won't wring out, the wringing hasn't grown.
      1. APES
        APES 12 November 2013 10: 25
        +5
        Quote: ed65b
        I don’t agree, the liberal father tells him not to talk about retribution,

        he is not a liberal - he is Orthodox
        he goes there to our guys who protect us there

        In the part of "retribution":
        to pray for the enemy (as well as to feed and give to drink) - your prayers with burning coals will fall on his head (if he doesn’t recover), you pray that they will instruct him, as is the work of God, including

        Quote: ed65b
        wooden mac


        if nothing helps already
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 12 November 2013 11: 07
          -5
          What liberals are not Orthodox in our country? or who prevents being a priest liberal? today's Russian Orthodox Church is in an ambiguous position. in 90 did the pope trade in alcohol or cigarettes without excise duty or the ROC?
          1. APES
            APES 12 November 2013 11: 37
            +6
            Quote: ed65b
            is in an ambiguous position


            Specifically, this Father, there is no way to be in an ambiguous position, and he goes to such places with one FAITH, where they can kill for his Faith

            Quote: ed65b
            today's Russian Orthodox Church


            Do you live a church life?
            1. ed65b
              ed65b 12 November 2013 14: 04
              -2
              Quote: APES
              Do you live a church life?

              Just go to church. That would be convinced of the position of the Russian Orthodox Church, or rather, its non-location to the parishioner.
              1. APES
                APES 12 November 2013 14: 34
                +5
                Quote: ed65b
                Just go to church


                not enough
                1. ed65b
                  ed65b 12 November 2013 19: 48
                  -2
                  Quote: APES
                  Quote: ed65b
                  Just go to church


                  not enough

                  This is your problem.
                  1. APES
                    APES 12 November 2013 22: 36
                    +3
                    Quote: ed65b
                    This is your problem.


                    rather yours, sorry for you ........

                    1. ed65b
                      ed65b 13 November 2013 08: 34
                      -1
                      Pity yourself. My pity does not work either at the reception or at the return.
                      1. APES
                        APES 13 November 2013 10: 03
                        +1
                        Quote: ed65b
                        It does not work for me


                        I’m talking about this, see the answer above.
      2. maxvik
        maxvik 12 November 2013 10: 48
        +3
        Quote: ed65b
        father liberal

        Well, I don’t know, all Orthodox are Orthodox by definition, and he works on "earth". He probably knows what he says.
      3. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 12 November 2013 11: 24
        +5
        Quote: ed65b
        Does he not consider the option of everyone underground in a wooden mac?

        - and hto, are these all? Do not specify the case?
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 12 November 2013 11: 37
          0
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          Quote: ed65b
          Does he not consider the option of everyone underground in a wooden mac?

          - and hto, are these all? Do not specify the case?

          The article is written.
          1. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 12 November 2013 12: 09
            10
            What is written in sathya, we already do, along with Russian guys special forces. But you, as it were, did not agree with the priest, who is against bandits, this is not enough for you, you suggest putting ALL under the ground. But I don’t understand who these ALL are, if we soak all Wahamrazi at maximum speed anyway?
            Please explain on the fingers who these are your ALL?
            1. ed65b
              ed65b 12 November 2013 14: 09
              -7
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              What is written in sathya, we already do, along with Russian guys special forces. But you, as it were, did not agree with the priest, who is against bandits, this is not enough for you, you suggest putting ALL under the ground. But I don’t understand who these ALL are, if we soak all Wahamrazi at maximum speed anyway?
              Please explain on the fingers who these are your ALL?

              If we leave the Caucasus, then the case of Kosovo will seem to us a child’s game: it will be worse at times.
              Let's leave from there - the gangs will move on. We will lose both the Stavropol Territory and Volgograd, and so on.

              We won’t lose anything. And no one will take ours from us. That's all, but we’ll put on wooden jackets. I think you do not need to give examples.
              1. DAGESTAN333
                DAGESTAN333 12 November 2013 15: 31
                -2
                Quote: ed65b
                That's all, and we’ll put on wooden jackets

                - Actually, Edward, in the whole history, always climbed, and they climb, it is your fellow tribesmen!
                1. ed65b
                  ed65b 12 November 2013 16: 00
                  +1
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  Quote: ed65b
                  That's all, and we’ll put on wooden jackets

                  - Actually, Edward, in the whole history, always climbed, and they climb, it is your fellow tribesmen!

                  Therefore, the country is such from the Pacific Ocean to the Baltic. such ancestors were with us, but they did not cut out the conquered peoples at the root, in contrast to the Anglo-Saxons. but if the peoples lived according to the concepts of the Stone Age, the Ermolovs came and put things in order. Or do you calculate that cutting the heads of Russian slaves is the pinnacle of honor and dignity of the highlander?
                  1. DAGESTAN333
                    DAGESTAN333 12 November 2013 16: 46
                    +1
                    Quote: ed65b
                    Or do you calculate that cutting the heads of Russian slaves is the pinnacle of honor and dignity of the highlander?

                    - the murder, especially in the cruel form of the enemy, who ceased to resist, is dishonor and disgrace to the one who created it.
                    - and the killing of a non-combatant, a shame out of shame. This is what I learned for myself from mountain morality.
                    Quote: ed65b
                    such ancestors were with us, but the conquered peoples were not cut to the root

                    - here, to your people, of course, a purely technical Thank you, but it didn’t occur to you that we initially, as it were, were against the fact that you would come and conquer us ..? There is such a thing - Freedom. And just like you, during the Tatar yoke, during the invasion of Napoleon, during the invasion of Nazi Germany, we wanted freedom, not civilization, according to someone's understanding. Do you understand? You need to start thinking from these points, and not from the fact that you found the floor of Eurasia at your birth ... in the possessions of your people ... as if it were ...
            2. Evgenij.
              Evgenij. 12 November 2013 17: 28
              0
              Do not listen to him, he did not think
      4. starshina78
        starshina78 12 November 2013 13: 59
        +7
        ed65b, don't you think that about what you wrote about, they can say the same about us Russians? I mean "wooden macs". I have two drivers from Dagestan working in my shop, and with a pain in their hearts they say that they all think they are terrorists! And they work quite normally and there are no questions to them about work, they also think with the peasants from the paycheck, they also say that these explosions and the terrorists have bothered. The whole buildup of the Caucasus comes not from the inside, but from the outside! Chelas are sitting somewhere in Saudi Arabia and making plans to destabilize the Caucasus. And here in the Caucasus their emissaries buy people with money. On the contrary, it is necessary to take all measures so that there is work in the Caucasus, for the farmers to work, the people will be busy, and there will be no terrorism.
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 12 November 2013 15: 57
          -2
          Duck chela in Arabia sit and buy primarily Caucasians and not Russian. and that it is the Russians in the Caucasus who climb mountains climb up bombs and kill people? yes no Caucasians do it. And the local population contributes to this, but who knows that the neighbor's accomplice is still silent. Everything in the Caucasus is saturated with corruption and clannishness. And until they get rid of it, it will be so. arrests of hooligans and mass protection by their diasporas as an indicator.
          1. Ivan93
            Ivan93 12 November 2013 19: 53
            +1
            Have you ever been to the Caucasus yourself? You have some strange reasoning.
    3. I am
      I am 12 November 2013 20: 30
      0
      Very, very few such clerics remain. Here are those who are also at the front line with our soldiers and are called HIERATES. But across itself is thicker and in jeeps - priests!
  2. Ihrek
    Ihrek 12 November 2013 07: 44
    15
    This man was there and told the actual situation. Actual attitude towards Russians. Indeed, Russians are very well treated in particular in Dagestan. And then some think differently.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 12 November 2013 08: 20
      10
      In Russia, families (of different nationalities) have always lived side by side peacefully and good neighborly .. The separatism virus has hit our society (which liberals of various kinds have brought) I think that all this foam will settle down .. At least I hope sincerely for that ...
    2. APES
      APES 12 November 2013 09: 27
      +2
      Quote: Jamal
      some think differently


      Because they see the "dignified" behavior of some "comrades" in their cities
    3. baltika-18
      baltika-18 12 November 2013 10: 30
      0
      Quote: Jamal
      This man was there and told the actual situation. Actual attitude towards Russians. Indeed, Russians are very well treated in particular in Dagestan. And then some think differently.

      Jamal then the following picture turns out. All good Dagestanis stayed at home, fighting with the bandits with the help of OMON from all regions, and the bad ones have disappeared into other regions of the country and are bandaging all over Russia. maybe our locals will be put under the knife, some good ones will remain? Otherwise, it is precisely our local Dagestanis who form an impression of all of you. I suppose I have never been to Dagestan and will probably never visit, because I don't need it, outside the region is generally rare leaving.
      1. dmb
        dmb 12 November 2013 13: 59
        +4
        This is the trouble, dear Nikolai. You are trying to judge the Caucasus by the group of thugs living in your area. And these scumbags are only in the second place a product of Caucasian nationalism, First of all, they are a product of social inequality, which we awarded ourselves in 91. Let me remind you that during the Soviet years there were also so-called "internal migrants". In the summer months, the entire male population of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic went to work in Siberia and the Middle Strip, however, it never went beyond domestic massacres, which were quite a rarity. Today, hostility towards visitors from the Caucasus is caused not by the fact that they came to build cowsheds, but by the fact that they are transporting criminal capital and legalizing it in real estate. At the same time, without removing the main responsibility from the current government, it is worth remembering that the local powerful public is no better. It is the local government that provides an opportunity for the legalization of this crime. and is at his feeding.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 12 November 2013 07: 46
    +8
    Yes, priest Father ANDREY raised questions that I often ask on the forum.
    I am glad that there are people who are not indifferent to the fate of our people in this region.
    For many years our soldiers and officers will have to fight there with bandits and other fanatical trash.
  4. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 12 November 2013 07: 47
    +5
    ... was surprised by the beautiful roads built in Chechnya, large, spacious houses, cleanliness and wealth - especially in Grozny, Gudermes, Shali. In Kabardino-Balkaria, a huge number of car dealerships "Mercedes", "Chrysler" surprised
    Such a picture, against the background of official statistics on the highest unemployment rate in the country, runs counter to the idea of ​​the unemployed as beggars, ragged, hungry people. And at the same time it makes you think about the origin of the money for which all these "Mercedes" and "Chryslers" are bought ...

    Yes, the QUESTION is not a QUESTION, so everything is clear where they have a "FIELD OF MIRACLES" ... only the government for some reason turns a blind eye to this. Not only does the Caucasus cover the entire crime of Russia, so also the "infusions" from the state treasury are not frail, but at the same time - villages, villages, small cities of Russia itself - dying without state support - houses that have grown into the ground, killed agriculture , continuous impassability, beggarly pensions, unemployment ...
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 12 November 2013 09: 12
      +1
      Quote: ia-ai00
      Yes, the QUESTION is not a QUESTION, so everything is clear where they have a "FIELD OF MIRACLES

      If we assume that Chechnya is placed in the same conditions at the level of federal subsidies as other regions of the country, there will be another mess. There is such a thing as the ratio of all types of subsidies received to the amount of taxes collected. We have the most disadvantaged region (excluding Chechnya), Kamchatka, there this ratio is 38%. Chechnya is 18% of the total. And this means that the republic does not work, practically does not contribute anything to the total contribution, but lives at the expense of others.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 12 November 2013 11: 50
        +1
        Kadyrov made a good offer to the road workers, but he also spoke about his requirements for the quality of roads and sidewalks. As a result, everyone was satisfied, although the builders sweated.
      2. karelia-molot
        karelia-molot 13 November 2013 15: 32
        0
        It is shameful, of course, to pay the Caucasus of reparation, you will not say anything ...

        And at the same time ... If the same unrealistic subsidies and support from the federal budget were provided, for example, to the Karelians or Voronezh ... Something tells me that the regions wouldn’t really get nichrome - everything would be stolen .. They wouldn’t see any roads, or handsome proud people, or new housing for citizens ... But this is so, just guesses - no more ...
  5. Alikovo
    Alikovo 12 November 2013 08: 16
    +1
    Caucasians themselves realized in 1994 that they did not need a war.
    1. air wolf
      air wolf 12 November 2013 10: 40
      +1
      No one understood or understood anything; a good Chechen, you know what, the old Russian proverb. Tough total control and stripping is required so that it is not mischievous:
      http://voenhronika.ru/publ/pervaja_chechenskaja_vojna/groznyj_1995_chechenskaja_

      khronika_boevikov_5_chastej_1995_god/2-1-0-94
      I do not understand why the Russian people do not raise this problem?
  6. Same lech
    Same lech 12 November 2013 08: 22
    0
    Is it - but I think the opposite is true in some republics, Russophobia went too far and the warlike threats against the Russians I heard with my own ears.
    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 12 November 2013 08: 42
      +2
      But you can do much that you have heard as I did. For example, "black people came in large numbers here. And sometimes a frankly bad attitude based on ethnicity. And once I personally witnessed how one Uzbek in St. Petersburg was pushed off the platform by the skinheads under the train and ran away. In a hooligan fight, he killed someone Russian (although he could have been in the place of the killed himself), then this is a catastrophe of a universal scale, they will trumpet all channels. And if a Dagestani died in this fight, it would be silence. in the Caucasus, believe me. In the fight against bandits, both Russian and non-Russian are fighting side by side, protecting each other.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 12 November 2013 09: 03
        +1
        Jamal, here you start communicating with me (not knowing me) with a poke, but in our traditions it is a manifestation of disrespect and rudeness. (Do not you really talk with your elders)
        How can you then rely on a respectful attitude towards yourself from the side of the interlocutor.
        As for the facts you have cited, believe me, I have always been against such things, skinheads are the same extremists and must answer according to the law.
        Further, as for the Dagestanis, you saw a video where the DAGESTANIAN MAGA broke his brass knuckles to our policeman WHY SAME FROM NEARBY STANDING DAGESTANTS, NOBODY STOPED IT (moreover, they helped him) - this is no longer a household level, this is a way of thinking.
        I’m not a nationalist, but when they write off something like this for everyday life, I strongly disagree with such reasoning.
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 12 November 2013 11: 23
          +1
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          WHY SAME FROM NEARBY STANDING DAGESTANTS, NO ONE HAS STOPED IT

          So no one of the Russians stopped him, not even the cops ... In this case, claims can be presented to everyone equally.
          1. alone
            alone 12 November 2013 19: 38
            0
            Quote: Russ69
            So no one of the Russians stopped him, not even the cops ... In this case, claims can be presented to everyone equally.


            laughing In my opinion, MAGU was stopped by the presence of the camera. If there were no cameras, he would have beaten everyone there. And the police and his own. lol
      2. radio operator
        radio operator 16 November 2013 13: 47
        0
        Quote: Jamal
        But you can do much that you have heard as I did. For example, "black people have come in large numbers here.

        Orthodox priests and representatives of traditional Islam call each other brothers. Sincerely. And they are right.
        So are the peoples of the Russian Federation: we are all brothers.
        There are always exceptions. Everyone always has scumbags, and if an element of corruption is added, then any interethnic clash will be perceived as a tragedy.
  7. alekseyal
    alekseyal 12 November 2013 08: 25
    +1
    Our bill against separatists caused a storm of emotions

    The history of Russia shows that external forces have never succeeded in defeating our country. Losses of territories, deaths of millions of people during the time of troubles always occurred due to the activity of internal forces. Therefore, separatists and separatism are one of the main threats to Russian statehood.

    We cannot look indifferently at the ongoing subversive activities against the integrity of Russia. On November 8, 2013, a bill prepared by air defense lawyers was introduced to the State Duma.

    Its name is simple "On Amendments to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and the Code of the Russian Federation on Administrative Offenses." The essence of the law, on the contrary, is extremely serious: to put the separatists in prison. Reliably and for a long time. Up to 20 years.

    It is no coincidence that the howl to heaven of “midfielders of human rights” rose on the same day.

    Read more http://nstarikov.ru/blog/34425
  8. dag 05.ru
    dag 05.ru 12 November 2013 09: 19
    +8
    A visa regime must be created between Russia and the former republics of the USSR, in Russia everyone will be just for it. Yes, and jobs will appear for their citizens. Russia is a multinational country. Friendship among peoples should be one of the priority tasks in the government. And some politicians, on the contrary, drive a wedge between nations, while gaining political points. To whom is it profitable. Only enemies of Russia, who rejoice in internal contradictions in Russia, because Russia cannot be taken from outside.
  9. ed65b
    ed65b 12 November 2013 09: 42
    0
    I understand everything, but I can’t forgive. Who will be responsible for this?
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 12 November 2013 09: 54
      +2
      Explain the photo (who is this?)
      1. alone
        alone 12 November 2013 19: 39
        0
        This is a member of the crew of the BMP, which burned alive.
  10. nemec55
    nemec55 12 November 2013 10: 20
    +1
    The most important question. When will most of the inhabitants of Russia have such living conditions as in the Caucasus (roads, new schools, good cars, enough money, provided that they have nothing to do) But we are not demanding, at least we are dear to this We have been waiting for twenty years.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 12 November 2013 11: 40
      +1
      Quote: nemec55
      The most important question. When will most of the inhabitants of Russia have such living conditions as in the Caucasus (roads, new schools, good cars, enough money, provided that they have nothing to do) But we are not demanding, at least we are dear to this We have been waiting for twenty years.

      And for this it is necessary so to stand across the throat of our rulers, to shed so much blood. then they will give money as Kadyrov, just shut up. And roads will appear and cities will be rebuilt.
  11. DNX1970
    DNX1970 12 November 2013 10: 28
    +3
    let them feed themselves for a start ...
  12. negeroi
    negeroi 12 November 2013 11: 10
    -3
    let them feed themselves for a start ...

    Good phrase. There are really nuances. Russia, or rather its poorest part, did not feed itself for more than a hundred years, exactly until 1935. And the poorest part is 65% of the population of Russia. How do you feint with your ears? Peasants working on the ground couldn’t feed themselves. The breadwinners of all the rest. They could not feed themselves. This is not a fairy tale — these are statistics of the Russian Empire. The landowners' estates and state farms fed the country (yes, they were not invented by the Bolsheviks), i.e. large farms. And the small peasant doha annually in unaccounted amounts, according to zazny data from 100 thousand to half a million annually. Hunger was annually massive, then for individual provinces. Hunger was the constant state of Roosia. Large farms sold bread to the city, and for But small ones didn’t have the means of production, and the technologies were of the Stone Age. So maybe Lenin’s expression was right - it’s better less and better? After all, it says the number of people. Lenin invented a golden billion, let 90% die, for that the best part will remain. .
    In principle, the Nazis were born at the same time of these same great socialist ideas. Life is worthy of a strong, viable life. And now it’s quite possible not to feed the Caucasus, refuse Vologda, send pensioners to eat grass, eat our food. By the way there are a lot of disabled people, almost 20 million. you can lift yourself up by denying them meager pensions! And the Northern delivery, this is Klondike! Cut off nigg! Let yourself be fed! And Kamchatka and Chukotka do not really provide for themselves, we will teach them to love the Motherland. And if you look closely, we are all millionaires, dough around the sea, and gold and other valuables. That's just to deal with those who do not feed themselves, and live!
  13. ed65b
    ed65b 12 November 2013 11: 52
    0
    We have, as always, from one extreme to another. flooded the father and the troops censer wave. And where are the rabbis and mullahs? Where are the shamans? Padre where? all became Orthodox and deeply religious people. And you go into the church without a coin figs put a candle. dachshund. Pay the loot, pay the loot. Where is God? Or temples have long been turned into markets, they only sell absolution and prayers for healthy repose. Russians fell in love. and the guts of Russian women on the fence wound in Chechnya from great love? We do not have love for them and may never have been. Cattle only understand the whip. And they behave in our streets like cattle.
    1. Mergenchi
      Mergenchi 12 November 2013 14: 53
      +1
      Why so much negativity, dear, is it really due to the fact that candles are sold for money? Well, get an apiary and make candles yourself.
      And do not use the name of the Lord in vain, I just do not recommend it humanly.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 12 November 2013 16: 03
        -1
        Quote: Mergenchi
        Why so much negativity, dear, is it really due to the fact that candles are sold for money? Well, get an apiary and make candles yourself.
        And do not use the name of the Lord in vain, I just do not recommend it humanly.

        Lord is in my soul. And I do not need intermediaries.
  14. Mergenchi
    Mergenchi 12 November 2013 11: 52
    +1
    Quote: ed65b
    in 90 did the pope trade in alcohol or cigarettes without excise duty or the ROC?


    Maybe official confirmation will find this information? Act, for this duck MK journalist has long been crying at the trial. Of course, maybe you will get a better answer before the court ...

    The father is well done, and there are many of them
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 12 November 2013 12: 11
      0
      Sorry, but this is not a duck. In the same Sofrino, both the vodka factory and the printing house were from the 90s, and foreign economic activity was controlled by firms. Mr. Parkhaev is generally noted in many scandals.
      The current Metropolitan, who, like Parkhaev, is friends with Potanin, then broke through customs privileges.
  15. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 12 November 2013 11: 57
    +1
    Without this, we are some kind of “co-passport”

    - co-passport ... hmm .. what a beautiful word ...
    we will have to push deeper and deeper into Russia - until they surround the “Russian Orthodox ghetto” assigned to us

    - That's it, - what is Russia doing in the Caucasus? And just trying to keep his Russian-Orthodox area, and nothing more! And what will happen to the peoples of the Caucasus, who are already accustomed to the Russian world, and do not want anything else? What kind of people ..? And these..? So after the Olympics we’ll think about what to do with them ... a) - everyone’s root .. b) - everyone in the ghetto with barbed wire ..
  16. faraon
    faraon 12 November 2013 12: 16
    +6
    It honors and respects the priest, and all the worshipers of the Orthodox Church, who, despite all the hardships and hardships, are at the forefront of Russia. They perform a very important and difficult task to return moral values ​​to fighters. This is psychological support, upbringing, education, and most importantly the person’s return to God. . This is what happens to a person during the fighting, and does not allow him to turn into an animal.
  17. faraon
    faraon 12 November 2013 12: 16
    0
    It honors and respects the priest, and all the worshipers of the Orthodox Church, who, despite all the hardships and hardships, are at the forefront of Russia. They perform a very important and difficult task to return moral values ​​to fighters. This is psychological support, upbringing, education, and most importantly the person’s return to God. . This is what happens to a person during the fighting, and does not allow him to turn into an animal.
  18. Mergenchi
    Mergenchi 12 November 2013 12: 20
    0
    Quote: fzr1000
    Sorry, but this is not a duck


    So what is there with confirmation? A printing house, but this is a crime, of course))
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 12 November 2013 12: 26
      -1
      Quote: Mergenchi
      Quote: fzr1000
      Sorry, but this is not a duck


      So what is there with confirmation? A printing house, but this is a crime, of course))

      and what are you waiting for, what would you bring for the beard of the priest? Search the net.
    2. fzr1000
      fzr1000 12 November 2013 12: 33
      0
      Although I’m not in court ...
      From the "Database of SB Group" Most "
      Help
      The head of the group "Onexim-Bank - MFC" Potanin VO, having the awards of the Russian Orthodox Church of the order: St. Vladimir III degree; Saint Vladimir II degree and Saint Reverend Sergius of Radonezh III degree, is not a supporter of strict morality in the choice of means to achieve their goals.

      At the beginning of his career, Potanin was helped to establish ties with the Moscow Orthodox Church, E.A. Parkhaev, director of a church accessories factory in the city of Sofrino, Moscow region, who was arrested by the KGB of the USSR in the 80s for stealing and selling sheet copper intended for the repair of churches, and was held in the Lefortovo pre-trial detention center.

      Together with Parkhaev, Potanin personally established the "Foundation for the Unity of Orthodox Peoples."

      In turn, the Sofrino enterprise headed by Parkhaev and the Department of External Church Relations of the Moscow Patriarch, headed by Metropolitan Kirill (Gundyaev) of Kaliningrad and Smolensk, established the Sofrino Trading House LLP, which has accounts in the MFC bank. financial scams with the use of customs privileges for tobacco and wine and vodka products imported into Russia, the money from which settled in Potanin's banks.
    3. fzr1000
      fzr1000 12 November 2013 12: 35
      0
      In 1994, in connection with the plight, the Russian Orthodox Church / ROC / asked the government to allow it to import excisable goods / wine and cigarettes / through humanitarian aid, without paying customs duties. In late 1994, permission was obtained, and the government humanitarian aid commission, headed by Deputy Prime Minister O. Davydov, allocated quotas for duty-free import of wine and tobacco into the country.
      Cigarettes enter the country as a humanitarian cargo, and part of the proceeds from the sale of the cargo goes to the needs of the church. In particular, 1 billion rubles are deducted from the supply of cigarettes to the Church every week, in total during this time - 24 billion. However, a machine similar to the National Sports Fund earned itself in the field of wine import. At the head of the new system of pumping out budget money was E.Parkhaev, head of the art-production enterprise / HPP / Sofrino. On March 26, 1996, Davydov's commission made a decision # 35 on the recognition of church wine for the needs of the Russian Orthodox Church as a humanitarian aid, supplied free of charge from Germany. Apparently for humane purposes, the commission allowed Parkhaev to sell part of the free overseas wine for the reconstruction of the Sofrino plant.
      HPP "Sofrino" sold humanitarian wine for $ 30 million through the commercial firms "Evikhon", "Anis" and "Belan". Taking into account the fact that customs duties on excisable goods reach 150 percent, the value of the sold wine reaches 70-80 million dollars. Of all the money he earned, Parkhaev did not list a penny either to the Church or to the state. On July 18, 1996, the government issued decree # 816 abolishing customs privileges on excisable goods imported into the country as humanitarian aid, that is, wine and cigarettes, but this decree did not affect Parkhaev. On August 28, the first deputy chairman of the State Customs Committee, Kruglikov, by teletype message confirmed the benefits of the Sofrino KhPP until November 15.
      Moreover, the State Customs Committee allowed the Moscow excise post to process the goods of the Sofrino KhPP without prepayment. As a result, in just a month and a half, the debt of this enterprise for customs clearance alone reached 14,251 billion rubles. / They wanted to subject KamAZ to bankruptcy for an annual debt to the budget of 50 billion rubles. / On October 22, 1996, at the first meeting of the Cheka, it was decided to dismiss V. Kruglikov. In the order to dismiss Kruglikov, the reason is "unreasonable provision of benefits." The order has been signed, but Kruglikov still continues to fulfill his duties. On October 24, Parkhaev came to visit Kruglikov. The next day all debts of KhPP "Sofrino" for customs clearance were paid off. Some LLC "Lamira" deposited 664 thousand 875 dollars and 4,603 billion rubles in cash to the account of the Moscow excise customs post in Mosbusinessbank. The haste in paying off the debt is understandable: if Kruglikov's order to extend benefits for the Sofrino plant can somehow be justified, then the registration of goods without prepayment is a XNUMX% criminal case.
      By the way, Bacchus Trading, one of the NSF's permanent partners, is the foreign partner of Sofrino, which supplies "church" wine "Yves Rocher".
    4. fzr1000
      fzr1000 12 November 2013 12: 36
      -1
      Potanin's friend Metropolitan of Kaliningrad and Smolensk, Kirill (Gundyaev), who heads the department of external church relations of the Moscow Patriarchate, who defends himself from charges of financial fraud, flirts with extreme national - patriotic movements.
      He is also supported in this by the head of Onexim Bank, which finances representatives of these national-patriotic movements through commercial structures controlled by him.
      Being a faithful friend of Parkhaev, Potanin, through his connections in law enforcement agencies, helped his son-in-law, L.A. Solomonov. to become a monopoly on the business market with imported Levante and Golden Lady tights, neutralizing its competitors.
      Customs privileges that provided Potanin - Parkhaev and was relieved of this position from the position of deputy chairman of the State Customs Committee V.F. Kruglikov was hired by IFC.
      However, in a short time, taking into account his services to "Onexim-Bank" and with the help of Potanin's government connections, Kruglikov was appointed deputy chairman of the State Tax Committee of Russia, where he is successfully working to this day.
      On December 19.12.1997, XNUMX, a meeting took place with a source that was previously directly related to the economic administration of the Moscow Patriarchate. During the meeting, the latter said that the surname Parkhaev did not tell him anything, and if this surname had any attraction to the Moscow Patriarchate, then he certainly knew him. At the same time, the source said that over the recent period of time, many clergy "have gone into the world", that is, began to work in commercial structures, or entered the service of government agencies. He knows a lot of such commercial structures in which former priests have become leaders, so about two months ago the director of the restaurant - "Moscow Patriarchate" was killed.

      He further said that all the money of the Moscow Patriarchate is concentrated in the economic department of the MP, in connection with which there are big financial irregularities, the employees of this department are usually divided into small groups according to the profile of work and have huge unaccounted-for profits anywhere. During the period of the source’s work in the Moscow Patriarchate’s system (the source has been working in commercial structures for about four years), a large number of crimes have been committed in the economic department, among them approximately eight murders, as a rule the motive for these actions is self-interest, redistribution of funds, and blackmail. The money received in the MP budget is constantly on the move, real estate is acquired, a large piece of land is torn away when churches are restored, etc. Large financial and industrial structures are involved in scrolling the above funds. Thus, the structure of Onexim Bank took an active part in the construction of the Donskoy Monastery complex.
    5. fzr1000
      fzr1000 12 November 2013 12: 39
      0
      At the end of 1997, under the pressure of tax authorities, the network of branded “Sofrinsky” kiosks at Moscow stations and in the center of the capital was closed. In the summer of 1999, the Main Directorate for Combating Economic Crimes raided the Sofrino workshop in Alekseyevsky, and it was also closed.

      It is also known that Sofrino produces a lot of non-church products and direct purchases at the enterprise by the “walkers” of parishes or independent distributors, and the “unplanned” distribution of products among the rich central dioceses. For example, in the Yaroslavl and Kostroma dioceses "Sofrinsky" products comprise from 30 to 80 percent of the assortment.

      Today Sofrino produces not only cult objects. Recently, the company has been striving to enter adjacent markets in order to expand its sales volume: it produces souvenir and printing products, and is fighting for prestigious orders like sewing gowns for members of the Constitutional Court. According to some experts, Evgeny Parkhaev can safely claim the title of chief sponsor and financier of the Moscow Patriarchate.
    6. fzr1000
      fzr1000 12 November 2013 12: 40
      0
      It follows from the report of the patriarchy that some of its commercial enterprises brought the main income, primarily the Danilovsky hotel complex and the Sofrino art and industrial enterprise. Profitable items of the church budget are also recognized as the placement of funds in commercial banks and operations with securities. At the same time, the hierarchs convince that the priests are not doing business at all. Moreover, the patriarch directly stated in his public speeches: “Commerce is not compatible with the church. And we are talking about the fact that sometimes, perhaps, we had to receive humanitarian aid, and we are often approached by various state structures so that the church is present in the distribution of humanitarian aid, seeing in this a guarantee that this humanitarian aid will reach the addressee. But commercial activity for the church, especially in some areas, is unacceptable. ”

      It so happened that formally the most important economic projects should be supervised by the manager of affairs of the Morskovo Patriarchate, Archbishop of Solnechnogorsk, Sergiy (Fomin), to whom the Danilovsky hotel complex and Sofrino checkpoint are subordinate.

      However, the head of Sofrino, Evgeny Parkhaev, is by no means an errand boy with Bishop Sergius. According to the former press secretary of the patriarch E. Komarov, "Parkhaev is the most financially influential church leader, his structures are the main budget-forming factor in the patriarchate, so his biases were always forced to be taken into account by the patriarch."

      Sofrino prospers not only because any parish dreams of having utensils or vestments made there, but also thanks to the “left” orders that we have already talked about. A 1997 report by the patriarchy indicated that Sofrino's monthly turnover reached 10 billion rubles, which at that time amounted to about two million dollars. That is, the annual turnover of the enterprise, according to official figures, reached $ 24 million. If we take the minimum rate of return of 15 percent. (with less profitability in the post-Soviet space they don’t work), this means that Sofrino earned at least $ 3,6 million a year.
      1. Mergenchi
        Mergenchi 12 November 2013 14: 43
        +1
        Quote: fzr1000
        Sorry, but this is not a duck. In the same Sofrino, both the vodka factory and the printing house were from the 90s, and foreign economic activity was controlled by firms. Mr. Parkhaev is generally noted in many scandals. The current Metropolitan, who, like Parkhaev, is friends with Potanin, then broke through customs privileges.

        Whom do you mean when speaking about the "present Metropolitan"?
        Dear, what does Parkhaev and Sofrino have to do with it? You can read about the tobacco scandal in the notorious Wikipedia there briefly and clearly. And comrade S. Bychkov from MK, who raised all this wave of slander, has long repented.
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 12 November 2013 15: 09
          -1
          Kirill. And then Bychkov? I myself visited Sofrino when I made orders at that printing house. And where does Parkhaev? Well, if you don’t understand, then it’s not good for you. Adye.
          1. Mergenchi
            Mergenchi 12 November 2013 15: 36
            +1
            Well, firstly: Cyril has long been no longer the Metropolitan, at least not the current one.
            secondly: by accusing the Patriarch of selling cigarettes you are slandering. What do you ask here S. Bychkov? Yes, despite the fact that he had already been in court with similar statements that were recognized as defamation.
      2. Mergenchi
        Mergenchi 12 November 2013 14: 58
        +1
        By the way, what kind of group "Most" are you referring to? The one where the owner and CEO V.A.Gusinsky. Or is it the Rock group "Most"? Clarify please.
        You have brought so much material not relating to the church. What does Porkhaev and Sofrino have to do with it?
        By the way, specify who do you mean when you speak of the "current Metropolitan."
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 12 November 2013 15: 03
          -1
          What do you think? Of course, the competitor of Potanin at that time was Gusinsky.
          You can do all this, as they say, "divide by 10", but even in this case, the picture is unsightly.
          On the one hand, fathers live in remote parishes, travel to hot spots, i.e. set an example of asceticism, on the other hand, all this ....
  19. ed65b
    ed65b 12 November 2013 12: 36
    +2
    That would not be a) and b) recall boors to their homeland and send them to study, work normal adequate Caucasians. No one is against it. all the resonant cases that stirred up society do not come from a shepherd or a Dagestan worker, an engineer, but from a loafer driving a bunch of other children like market directors, representatives of republics, just civil servants and frank gangsters from diasporas and believing that Papashkin’s money will decide all questions. and this he sees in his family, how dad decides these issues, which is facilitated by the rotten layer of policemen and bureaucrats. Soon we will introduce a new nationality, official, security official. A priori a bribe taker and a guard. is sad.
  20. vuvarovskiy
    vuvarovskiy 12 November 2013 12: 36
    +3
    Thank you for the article! A very timely article - the threshold of mutual rejection of each other rolls over - a little is left before the international explosion and then it will not seem enough to anyone - rivers of blood will spill, and as always the provocateurs will sit aside, in the bushes ,,,,, !!!
  21. ed65b
    ed65b 12 November 2013 14: 00
    -2
    Then the priests drive around Moscow in very expensive cars, having taken what God has sent on their chests, make an accident and video recordings help them destroy the heavenly forces. There are plenty of examples. CJSC "ROC" is a copy of our CJSC "Russia". And we are slaves, for the priests of God, for the rest of the "masters" simply. so maybe Russians are fleeing to Islam.
  22. faraon
    faraon 12 November 2013 14: 25
    0
    Quote: ed65b
    Then the priests drive around Moscow in very expensive cars, having taken what God has sent on their chests, make an accident and video recordings help them destroy the heavenly forces. There are plenty of examples. CJSC "ROC" is a copy of our CJSC "Russia". And we are slaves, for the priests of God, for the rest of the "masters" simply. so maybe Russians are fleeing to Islam.


    You are right, some representatives from the Russian Orthodox Church are really snickering, but it seems to me that this is not the main reason why they are fleeing to Islam. This is a purposeful information war. Where other moral values ​​are instilled. Look around what is happening in the capital and big cities, and what is happening in the outback of Russia. Social inequality. And people are not blind and see it. as some live building houses on Rublevka for their mistresses and others vegetate in the barracks of the Stalin era.
    What the ROC can offer in this case: Jesus endured and told us, that is, the Christian religion calls for humility. People have already lost faith in religion, they are looking for that substitute that will help them feel like people. That's where different emissaries from religion come in case of Islam. Adepts are promised golden mountains, provide material support, call for global jihad, after the victory of which there will be universal prosperity. Well, if you die in jihad, then you have 72 gurians in paradise and your family is open to paradise.
    And this is a serious argument. To a clogged, moneyless, impoverished people.
  23. Mergenchi
    Mergenchi 12 November 2013 15: 13
    +1
    Quote: faraon
    the reason why they run to Islam

    and what? Are they running straight to Islam? Can you give statistics? And give statistics how many run to Orthodoxy?
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 12 November 2013 16: 08
      -2
      And what about statistics? I believe my eyes. Here, for example, a young Russian family converted to Islam and lives. I see every day a guy with a beard wife in a scarf and a long dress. Islam gave them something that a fat pop on the gelding did not give yelling at the flock that you should come for holy water at 5 in the morning rather than 8.
      1. Mergenchi
        Mergenchi 12 November 2013 16: 42
        +1
        That would be to check if there is truth in your words. I live in Central Asia and have not seen the cases described by you.
        There is so much hatred in your words. Tell me, are there things to which you have love?

        By the way, about the "fat priest", could you say in which city and in which temple the incident described by you had? You don't even have to say the name "priest", we will calculate it ourselves. Believe me, "Fat pop on a gelding" is a very rare omen. I won't say about Moscow, I haven't been there for a long time.
        In general, it is very easy to see that in fact talking about the evil priest you are lying. The rite of blessing water at Baptism takes place during the procession after the Liturgy. The Liturgy on the Twelfth Holidays usually begins no earlier than 8:00 and lasts with the sacrament for 2-3 hours, this is the minimum. So what about 5 o’clock in the morning you are bent, admit it. By the way, water after consecration can be typed in Jordan for 3 days, including the holiday of Epiphany.
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 12 November 2013 19: 39
          -2
          So live there in Asia but to me with my faith I do not believe do not meddle. Those who see and have seen this will understand me. But the priest on the gelding can be seen in Irkutsk and in Kemerovo and Tomsk. Take a look. And yet, look at what the patriarch drives.
  24. Ihrek
    Ihrek 12 November 2013 16: 16
    +2
    Quote: The same Lech
    Jamal, here you start communicating with me (not knowing me) with a poke, but in our traditions it is a manifestation of disrespect and rudeness. (Do not you really talk with your elders)
    How can you then rely on a respectful attitude towards yourself from the side of the interlocutor.
    As for the facts you have cited, believe me, I have always been against such things, skinheads are the same extremists and must answer according to the law.
    Further, as for the Dagestanis, you saw a video where the DAGESTANIAN MAGA broke his brass knuckles to our policeman WHY SAME FROM NEARBY STANDING DAGESTANTS, NOBODY STOPED IT (moreover, they helped him) - this is no longer a household level, this is a way of thinking.
    I’m not a nationalist, but when they write off something like this for everyday life, I strongly disagree with such reasoning.

    Alexey is to blame for turning to you. But you also turned to me with a small letter. Personally, I am purely mechanically, I think you too. As for the Dagestanis standing nearby, it is not correct, I do not approve. But there were not only Dagestanis, there were even policemen. But for some reason you see bad things only in Dagestanis. And you also say "our policeman" - this is also not correct. Since this is not only "your" policeman, but also ours. Because I'm Russian. It is understandable if you said this to the representative of Uzbekistan, Georgia or Ukraine. But Dagestan is a subject of the Russian Federation. This is the same Russia. I live in Russia, I was born, raised, served an urgent service in the Northern Fleet (I swore an oath of allegiance to the Motherland), etc. But dividing Russians into friends and foes is not correct. And we must divide into good and bad. I think then life will be much brighter.
  25. FormerMariman
    FormerMariman 12 November 2013 18: 02
    +2
    In the Dagestan militia there are men who know that they "walk under God" (sooner or later they will be blown up or shot, and they have families) every morning they go to the service and do not know whether they will return or not, and at this time in Moscow and the Moscow region policemen loot from migrants pull! The position of intolerance and hatred of foreigners and gentiles will win back not on Edward, but on his generation. And Ermolov is a war criminal!
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 12 November 2013 19: 41
      -3
      Quote: Former Mariman
      In the Dagestan militia there are men who know that they "walk under God" (sooner or later they will be blown up or shot, and they have families) every morning they go to the service and do not know whether they will return or not, and at this time in Moscow and the Moscow region policemen loot from migrants pull! The position of intolerance and hatred of foreigners and gentiles will win back not on Edward, but on his generation. And Ermolov is a war criminal!

      My generation survived all that could be desired for the enemy and survived. So it's with fists. And Ermolov-correctly made cattle in a stall.
  26. alone
    alone 12 November 2013 19: 42
    +1
    While they will divide their citizens into “friends” and “aliens”, this issue will not be resolved. Alas, problems cannot be solved with this approach.
  27. uhjpysq1
    uhjpysq1 12 November 2013 20: 42
    -1
    here. all good and bad everyone back home in the auls. let them understand between themselves. the good ones will win as neighbors. and if not, then bomb.