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Pacific frontier: Chinese "fortress". Part of 2

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Pacific frontier: Chinese "fortress". Part of 2 Threat from the east


On the east, China has several serious overt and covert opponents. The situation is aggravated by the presence of a number of territorial disputes and hotbeds of instability. Japan and South Korea are military allies of the United States. At the same time, the United States has tight military ties with Taiwan and the Philippines. In fact, this is the "first line of defense" of the United States. These states have serious contradictions with China.

This is especially true of Japan. Japan is a former leader of the Asia-Pacific region, and at the end of the 19th century, and in the first half of the 20th century, it pretty much annoyed China. Tokyo is clearly not going to cede the region to Beijing. The fight between two Asian dragons is almost inevitable. An especially intriguing situation will arise if the United States loses its current status and moves on to an “isolation” policy. Against the backdrop of a new escalation of tension between China and Japan over the Senkaku Islands (Diaoyu), mutual aversion between the Japanese and the Chinese reached a peak. A poll conducted by the China Daily newspaper and the Japanese organization Genron shows that 93% of Japanese people have a negative opinion about China; the number of Chinese negatively related to Japan is no less - about 90%.

Currently, the Japanese armed forces are superior to the Chinese in material terms and in the training of personnel. All new Chinese military systems, often copies of Russian and Western ones, have not been tested, the level of preparedness of the Chinese military raises questions. However, the speed of the qualitative and quantitative growth of the Chinese armed forces may soon lead to a radical change in favor of the PRC. Then the Chinese can take over in the Senkaku area. Therefore, the Japanese are trying to move to a new level, transforming the Self-Defense Forces into full-fledged aircraft with serious offensive potential.

Beijing is also closely monitoring the situation on the Korean Peninsula. North Korea can not be called a full ally. On the one hand, Pyongyang is the outpost of the People's Republic of China on the north-eastern frontier, restraining the United States, Japan and South Korea. On the other hand, the North Korean "younger brother" is too difficult a predictable partner. Therefore, at the beginning of 2013 for the first time in four years, China voted in favor of a resolution providing for tougher sanctions against the DPRK. And in September, 2013, Beijing banned the export to North Korea of ​​goods and technologies related weapons mass destruction. The export of goods and technologies of four groups is prohibited: nuclear, rocket, chemical and biological.

China has no serious disputes with South Korea. However, Seoul is an ally of Washington and apparently will become a participant in the program to create a global US missile defense. In addition, the Americans are inclining Seoul to an alliance with Tokyo, despite the existence of a territorial conflict between them over the Liancourt Islands. Beijing, in order not to aggravate relations with Seoul, when he had strained relations with Japan because of the Senkaku Islands, even decided not to provoke another territorial dispute with South Korea because of the so-called Iodo Island. China chose not to risk venturing a territorial war immediately with Japan and South Korea, focusing on the Japanese. Iodo is an underwater rock in 149 km from the South Korean island of Marado and in 287 km from the Chinese island of Sosandao, i.e., exclusive economic zones (EEZs) of both Asian countries are “superimposed” here.

The conflict with Taiwan and the Philippines is more principled. China believes that Taiwan is Chinese land, and sooner or later the island will become part of a single state. Taipei is an ally of Washington and Tokyo, so Beijing has so far tried to solve the problem through diplomacy. The United States has an obligation to protect Taiwan in the event of aggression. In addition, Washington convinced Tokyo to include Taiwan in the zone of common strategic interests of the two countries. In 2005, the All-China People’s Assembly (NPC) approved the law “On Countering the Split of the Country”. According to this document, the Chinese government can take "non-peaceful or other necessary measures to protect its sovereignty and territorial integrity" in case of an attempt by external forces to separate Taiwan from their homeland. Thus, Beijing has a formal opportunity to use force against Taiwan.

Taiwan is a fairly developed state with good financial capabilities and is trying to increase its military potential in order to be able to withstand Chinese forces. But under pressure from China, many countries refuse to sell modern weapons to Taiwan. Even the United States has limited arms sales to Taipei. Taiwan in recent years adopted the F-16 modernization program, bought 12 base patrol aircraft aviation P3-C and 30 attack helicopters AH-64D Block 3, upgraded flying radars, increases missile capabilities, plans to buy two frigates from the US fleet. At the same time, the United States did not dare to sell 66 F-16C / D fighters to Taiwan so as not to complicate relations with China and Taipei could not solve the problem of buying 8 submarines. As a result, Taipei began to think about a project for the design and construction of its own submarines. Currently, China is already able to carry out an operation to seize Taiwan, but does not do this because of a possible conflict with the United States and Japan. Taiwan loses a lot in air and sea forces. And the fighting efficiency of his army is in doubt. It is doubtful that Taiwanese soldiers are ready to fight "to the last drop of blood." Further weakening of the United States could lead to the fact that Beijing will go on to conduct a landing operation. China’s capture of Taiwan will be a kind of alarm signal for the entire region. The question will be - who is next.

The Philippines is involved in a conflict with China over the Spratly Islands. This island republic is the weakest militarily of all countries in the region. The army can carry out only anti-guerrilla operations, having a small number of military equipment. There is practically no modern combat aircraft. The Navy is minimal: there are no submarines or surface combat ships with rocket armament. Manila is trying to make a difference. The Air Force strengthens: Polish helicopters 10 and Italian helicopters 8 were bought, several helicopters were handed over to the United States, and the FA-12 light jet fighters will be purchased from South Korea. They also plan to increase the impact capabilities of the Navy (tender for the purchase of two frigates). However, currently the Philippines can only play a supporting role in the fight against China.

Vietnam can become another serious opponent of China. Vietnam has territorial disputes with China - the question of the ownership of the Paracel Islands and the Spratly Archipelago. Not only China and Vietnam are involved in this territorial dispute, but also Taiwan, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei. However, China, Vietnam and the Philippines are the most controversial debaters. Many analysts believe that it is the dispute over the Spratly and Paracel Islands that could lead to a serious regional conflict. The islands themselves, whose area is very small, are of no interest in terms of settlement or economic potential. But the ownership of the islands determines the right to the adjacent shelf, where there is oil and gas. We should not forget about biological resources in the sea. In addition, the islands are possible locations for air and naval forces, which ensures the safety of communications passing through the sea.

Hanoi made an alliance with Delhi. Since 2000, both powers have held annual joint exercises in the South China Sea. In order to contain China, Vietnam even began to draw closer to the United States, despite the mutual negative memory of the war. In 2010 and 2012 Vietnam and the United States conducted joint naval exercises, which caused great irritation in the PRC. Beijing has even begun to threaten that Hanoi will regret this in the future. It is obvious that Vietnam will be one of the main members of any anti-Chinese coalition. This says история relations between China and Vietnam, the existence of a territorial dispute and the strength of the Vietnamese armed forces, which they wish to use against China.

The Vietnamese army is one of the largest in the region, while its ongoing modernization takes place thanks to the preservation of special relations with Russia. Vietnam bought Su-12 and Su-27 airplanes in Russia on 30; ZRS C-300PMU-1 (two divisions); “Molniya” type missile boats - four 12411 projects, then 12 12418 projects (two were built in Russia, the rest in Vietnam); two frigates of the 11661 project (another two have been awarded a contract); 4 patrol boats project 10410 "Svetlyak"; 6 PL Varshavyanka 636 project (one passed, two will be transferred in 2014 year); coastal missile system "Bastion".

At present, relations between Beijing and Hanoi are considered to be quite friendly, but there is no doubt that Vietnam strengthens the Armed Forces and is friendly with India to contain China. It is clear that the economic opportunities of Vietnam are lower than those of the PRC. The Vietnamese military industrial complex is underdeveloped, shipbuilding has only just begun to develop. Even with Russian help, the Vietnamese armed forces cannot match the strength of the Chinese army. True, Vietnam is not required. Hanoi is not going to attack China. The main task of deterrence, the presence of the Armed Forces, which can cause unacceptable damage to China in the event of aggression. Priority for Vietnam are the Air Force and Navy, they are necessary to maintain control over the islands and waters of the South China Sea. There have been no large-scale purchases for land forces in recent years, suggesting that Hanoi considers the Chinese threat on land to be insignificant.

South and North

On the southern border of China there are no outspoken enemies. However, the situation is also unstable. Thailand is simultaneously focused on the United States and China. There is a hotbed of war between Thailand and Cambodia. So, in February 2011, there was a clash because of the Preah Vihea temple complex. Thailand also has a conflict with Laos. Cambodia and Laos are supported by Vietnam. The Thai army is stronger than the Cambodian and Lao army, but they rely on a more powerful Vietnam. Myanmar in the political, economic and military sphere is fully focused on China. Myanmar (Burma) is viewed by the PRC as a bridgehead and a corridor to the Indian Ocean, an important link in the confrontation with India.

Singapore has a small but powerful and modern military. This small state is oriented to the West. Malaysia, like other states of the Asia-Pacific Region, is making great efforts to develop the armed forces and is in a state of conflict with China from the Spratly Islands. In this regard, Malaysia is developing military-technical relations with India. The position of Malaysia and Indonesia in the future confrontation is still difficult to predict, while in general they adhere to the anti-Chinese vector.

Australia and New Zealand are clearly in the anti-Chinese camp. Australia in recent years has invested a lot of money in modernizing the air force, navy and mobile rapid deployment forces, with a special focus on building amphibious capabilities, which in the Pacific are crucial.

It should also be noted that in the southern direction there is a threat of Islamic radicalism. This problem affects the territory of Thailand - in the southern province of Pattani there is a problem of Muslim separatism and guerrilla war, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines. There is even a scenario for the creation of the “New Islamic Caliphate”, which will include the territories of Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore, the southern part of the Philippines, Thailand and Burma. Considering the fact that Islam has the status of state religion in Malaysia, it is practiced by more than 60% of the population, and in Indonesia more than 85% of the population is Muslim, this is a serious geopolitical factor. There are large Islamic communities in other countries of the region.

The northern border of the PRC is the quietest. The Chinese lead a successful economic expansion in Kazakhstan, Mongolia and Russia. In these states, they also fear the “yellow threat”, but do not want to interrupt mutually beneficial economic cooperation. China is the largest market for goods from these countries. Moreover, Mongolia and Kazakhstan do not pose any threat to the PRC by virtue of their minimal military potential. In the West, there is a scenario of conflict between Russia and China, work in this area in the information space has been going on for a long time. However, Beijing is well aware of this, the Chinese need a calm "rear." China gets all the resources it needs without war. On the other hand, in the event of a sharp weakening of Russia and a further outflow of the Russian population from the Far East and Eastern Siberia, Beijing will inevitably be forced to intensify the process of expansion to the north. The world of Moscow and China, mutually beneficial cooperation is possible only when Russia is an equal force or superior to China in a number of areas.
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  1. makarov
    makarov 11 November 2013 08: 41 New
    +6
    Here is a paradox. First, Japan and China play each other with muscles, then when they wash themselves with blood, they start yelling about peaceful intentions, but they say the enemy did not understand them correctly, and unleashed an anti-human conflict. But you can see with your own eyes that the military conflict is interesting to both parties, since everyone has a benefit in it and its consequences.
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 11 November 2013 09: 16 New
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      Quote: makarov
      But you can see firsthand that the military conflict is interesting to both sides,

      This is beneficial primarily to the USA! War around the planet gives them the opportunity to get rid of debt + make money on the export of weapons. They’ve already done something similar, now they want to repeat it again.
    2. haron
      haron 11 November 2013 09: 29 New
      +4
      Quote: makarov
      Here is a paradox.

      Why a paradox? 80% of the warriors all over the world end there. 20% remains on those warriors when one of the opponents ceased to exist.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 November 2013 08: 43 New
    +2
    At the same time, the United States has strong military ties with Taiwan and the Philippines.


    However, the last storm completely washed away in the Philippines.

    It is clear that Vietnam’s economic opportunities are lower than those of China.


    But Vietnam’s experience in military operations is very rich, and the mericatos remember this like no one else.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 11 November 2013 11: 01 New
      +2
      Yes, and the Chinese, I remember, also sniffed a Vietnamese fist.
      1. carbofo
        carbofo 11 November 2013 13: 01 New
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        Quote: Yuri Ya.
        Yes, and the Chinese, I remember, also sniffed a Vietnamese fist.

        Is it like if they fought on one side?
        1. smprofi
          smprofi 11 November 2013 13: 49 New
          +2
          Quote: carbofo
          Is it like if they fought on one side?

          and in the year 79 too? belay

  3. Alikovo
    Alikovo 11 November 2013 09: 07 New
    +1
    China is not lucky if they start a war against two countries at the same time.
  4. svskor80
    svskor80 11 November 2013 09: 07 New
    +2
    China has no allies, as indeed Russia. But China is clearly not averse to tapping on world leadership, but here allies or satellites are needed - otherwise nothing. And the Chinese still have territorial problems only with a clearly armed solution. In general, the West has many pain points that the Chinese can put pressure on, far from leadership, if at all achievable.
  5. Sterlya
    Sterlya 11 November 2013 09: 35 New
    0
    The Japanese play out from the United States. they have already used nuclear weapons against them 3 times. 1 Hiroshima. 2. Nagasaki. 3. Fukushima. (built by amer)
    It is interesting the fourth time when and how the Americans will use nuclear weapons against Japan ?! Americans are clearly taking revenge on the Japanese Pearl Harbor so far. and the Japanese still can’t approve
  6. Nayhas
    Nayhas 11 November 2013 09: 56 New
    +1
    Speaking of neighbors, the author somehow forgot about China’s western neighbors and their policies towards these countries. Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and certainly India ...
    1. ybrcfy27
      ybrcfy27 11 November 2013 11: 30 New
      +1
      I think two articles are quite small for one of the most powerful states in the region, most likely there will be another
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 11 November 2013 11: 52 New
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        Quote: ybrcfy27
        I think two articles are quite small for one of the most powerful states in the region, most likely there will be another

        I really hope because in this region, the most likely changes. Rather, they are already happening ...
    2. Lindon
      Lindon 11 November 2013 12: 22 New
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      Quote: Nayhas
      Speaking of neighbors, the author somehow forgot about China’s western neighbors and their policies towards these countries. Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and certainly India ...


      Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan are also changing their resources to Chinese goods.
      Another question is that there are not many resources there - oil and gas are not produced in the mountains.
    3. Sirocco
      Sirocco 11 November 2013 13: 45 New
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      Quote: Nayhas
      Speaking of neighbors, the author somehow forgot about China’s western neighbors and their policies towards these countries

      Here, just all the media and the countries themselves (Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan) were silent in a rag when China squeezed the territory away from them, impudently moved the posts. And silence.
  7. major071
    major071 11 November 2013 10: 41 New
    +5
    It’s like Santa Barbara. These are friends with those against those. Those are friends with others against these and at the same time are building ties with those. Politics, damn it!
  8. maksim
    maksim 11 November 2013 10: 41 New
    +1
    in my opinion this is a topic chewed ten times already, with us at our side the Chechen expansion to the neighboring border region of Stavropol Territory is more visible
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 11 November 2013 11: 03 New
      +1
      Well don't tell
      The peace of Moscow and China, mutually beneficial cooperation is possible only when Russia is an equal force or surpasses China in a number of areas.

      Although also correct.
  9. ed65b
    ed65b 11 November 2013 11: 15 New
    +1
    Vietnam does not pay attention to the ground forces, not believing that China will undertake a ground operation. the experience of fighting on land is huge and rich. But there is no sea. And how will one Buddha really know.
  10. Misantrop
    Misantrop 11 November 2013 11: 19 New
    +1
    Quote: ed65b
    Vietnam does not pay attention to the ground forces not believing that China will undertake a ground operation

    Not so long ago, China has undertaken one ground operation against Vietnam. If not mistaken, in 1979. Then the Vietnamese regular army stood and watched without interfering, and a hefty expeditionary force in a few days rolled into the trash border guards with local militias ... lol Apparently, the Chinese are able to learn lessons ...
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 11 November 2013 13: 02 New
      +6
      Quote: Misantrop
      If not mistaken, in 1979. Then the Vietnamese regular army stood and watched without interfering, and a hefty expeditionary force in a few days rolled into the trash border guards with local militias ...

      You’re fundamentally mistaken. The Chinese forces (albeit with heavy losses) were conducting a successful offensive. The war ended after the general mobilization in Vietnam was announced and the entire strongest group of the USSR Armed Forces was put on alert in the Far East. The PLA army at that time was in Vietnam and took Langshon .
      Moreover, it should be borne in mind that it was a war of "red and red", that is, the socialist states among themselves. And any socialist state, all other things being equal, is utterly stronger than the capital of the country. Plus Vietnam was rendered enormous help by the almost all-powerful USSR at that time.
      Now, the PLA ground forces are by far the strongest in the world.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 11 November 2013 15: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: Odyssey
        Now, the PLA ground forces are by far the strongest in the world.

        A highly controversial statement. The most numerous - yes. The strongest are debatable.
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 11 November 2013 22: 12 New
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          Quote: Pimply
          The strongest - debatable

          I don’t know what seemed to you controversial. It is clear that such comparisons are abstract (the wars are complex). But which state’s army can wage a full-scale land war with the PLA?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 12 November 2013 00: 47 New
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            Quote: Odyssey
            I don’t know what seemed to you controversial. It is clear that such comparisons are abstract (the wars are complex). But which state’s army can wage a full-scale land war with the PLA?

            USA, Russia, Pakistan, India, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, France, UK, etc.

            If it seems to you that the European armies are too small - remember how quickly they can organize mobilization.
            1. Odysseus
              Odysseus 12 November 2013 13: 07 New
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              Quote: Pimply
              USA, Russia, Pakistan, India, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, France, UK, etc.

              Uh, are you kidding? We are talking about ground forces. Do you think that 120 thousand. French and 100 thousand British mercenary armies can fight with the PLA? I suppose this is completely out of the question. Of all the European satellites of the United States, Germany had the most combat-ready NEs, but now, after the collapse of the NEs of Russia, they have also degraded.
              Of all the countries you have listed, only the United States possesses powerful NEs, but they are too small and too sensitive to losses in order to withstand a large-scale war with the PLA.
              Good NE in the South Caucasus. For them, excluding America’s help, an adequate adversary of North Korea’s North Korea (the South Caucasus has better equipment and more gas, North Korea has more people and better spirit). Israel’s North Korean troops are also good, but they are few in number.
              NE of Russia without comment. I recall only that in the 80s in the Far East, 44 divisions with reinforcement units were deployed to contain the PRC and Japan (primarily the PRC), while the PLA was not weaker than now.
              Quote: Pimply
              If it seems to you that the European armies are too small - remember how quickly they can organize mobilization.

              They could organize. Now there’s no mob reserves, not trained reservists. And most importantly, people are different.
      2. vahatak
        vahatak 11 November 2013 16: 43 New
        +4
        Quote: Odyssey
        And any socialist state, ceteris paribus, is stronger than the cap. Country.

        Can you give real-life examples?
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 11 November 2013 21: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: vahatak
          Can you give real-life examples?

          Any number of times. Starting from the civil war in Russia (I recall that in October 1917 everyone was sure that the Bolsheviks would last a maximum of 2 months) ending with the war in Vietnam (where the small, weak North Vietnam stopped the US military machine). In the case of the PRC this is the civil war in China, the war in Korea (Chinese volunteers), the war with India. And this despite the fact that the army of the PRC was then technically very weak.
          1. vahatak
            vahatak 12 November 2013 11: 52 New
            0
            Quote: Odyssey
            Yes, any number.

            You gave 5 examples. Of these, 4 (Russia, China, Vietnam, Korea) are civil wars (with the participation of external forces, of course, but still this is a completely different type of war), and the fifth is just a local minor conflict.
            Initially, you talked about comparing two different countries with other equal. In reality, the strength of the state is little dependent on the social system. Much more important is the resources and organization (effective management of these resources).
            1. Odysseus
              Odysseus 12 November 2013 13: 17 New
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              Quote: vahatak
              Much more important is the resources and organization (effective management of these resources).

              The availability of resources and the ability to organize them is not least dependent on the social system. Compare feudal Europe and capitalist. The southern states of America under the control of the Spaniards and as part of the United States. Compare tsarist Russia and the USSR.
              Quote: vahatak
              You gave 5 examples. Of these, 4 (Russia, China, Vietnam, Korea) civil wars (with the participation of external forces, of course, but still this is a completely different type of war), and the fifth is just a local minor conflict

              Good. Great Patriotic War will suit? After all, Germany (with satellites) climbed into the USSR being absolutely confident of its victory. This confidence was based on an incorrect assessment of the USSR. Namely, an assessment of the USSR based on its material resources and by analogy with Russia in 1914. In the words of Hitler, "we did not know which the strength is our adversary. "
              1. vahatak
                vahatak 13 November 2013 01: 19 New
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                Quote: Odyssey
                The availability of resources and the ability to organize them also, not least, depend on the social structure.

                You confuse the social system with the political.
                Quote: Odyssey
                Good. Great Patriotic will arrange?

                Of course not. This is part of the Second World War, where coalitions were not built at all according to the principles of the socialist capitalists.
                You better tell me what feature of the socialist states makes them stronger. Just don't
                Quote: Odyssey
                Protecting a common cause is better than protecting the profits of the capitalists.

                since normal people have a common homeland, not a class.
            2. ybrcfy27
              ybrcfy27 12 November 2013 16: 25 New
              0
              as well as fighting spirit, and yet I think that the Russians are waving the beam, the more defending their country, and even all those that are now with us will defend the homeland
              1. vahatak
                vahatak 13 November 2013 01: 22 New
                +1
                Quote: ybrcfy27
                as well as fighting spirit, and yet I think that the Russians are waving the beam, especially defending their country,

                Totally agree with you. Russians, for example, will fight well in any system.
      3. alone
        alone 11 November 2013 20: 25 New
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        Quote: Odyssey
        And any socialist state, ceteris paribus, is stronger than the cap.


        how are they strong? Can Cuba be stronger than America or England? Or is North Korea stronger than South Caucasus or Japan?
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 11 November 2013 22: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: lonely
          Can Cuba be stronger than America or England? Or is North Korea stronger than South Caucasus or Japan?

          I wrote all else being equalIt cannot be said that the rest of Cuba and the USA are equal.
          A good example of "other being equal" is the war in Korea. Then, economically and militarily, the DPRK and the South Caucasus were equal. But as a result of the war, the DPRK defeated the South Caucasus (up to direct US intervention in the war).
          PS Regarding Cuba and the USA. Let me remind you that the USA organized a direct invasion of Cuba in 1961. The result of the known aggressors was thrown into the sea.
          Quote: lonely
          how are they strong?

          It’s clear why they are strong. Protecting the common cause is better than protecting the profits of the capitalists.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 12 November 2013 03: 20 New
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            Quote: Odyssey
            A good example of "other being equal" is the war in Korea. Then, economically and militarily, the DPRK and the South Caucasus were equal. But as a result of the war, the DPRK defeated the South Caucasus (up to direct US intervention in the war).


            Not equal. Because you somehow forgot that at the time of hostilities the DPRK began to receive support from the USSR and China, and the north was much more developed than the South.
      4. Misantrop
        Misantrop 12 November 2013 00: 58 New
        0
        Quote: Odyssey
        You are fundamentally mistaken.
        Well I do not know. I already served then, we were formulated in a slightly different way. By the way, bringing the USSR Armed Forces (even units) to increased combat readiness, too, I don’t remember something ... what
        1. smile
          smile 12 November 2013 03: 25 New
          -1
          Misantrop
          In the Far East there was - often former co-workers came to their grandfather's home with their families. I still remember how the officer’s wives gathered in the kitchen, while the husbands in the hall were taunting, crying, and whispering to their grandmother and mother how scared they were — they lifted the alarm men at night (they served somewhere near China) and they hardly if almost a week they were sitting on tanks (make a discount on my childhood perception, and female exaggerations), some units moved to the border at the original, tanks were brought up at night (as I understand, for psychological pressure on the Chinese) .. .in general, they were dismissed from their homes immediately after the truce. And so, they thought that there would be a war, they even prepared families for evacuation.
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 12 November 2013 03: 35 New
            +2
            Quote: smile
            And so, they thought that there would be a war, they even prepared families for evacuation.

            By the way, I know this from the source — my wife’s grandfather was the secretary of the party district committee in Blagoveshchensk just at that time
          2. Misantrop
            Misantrop 12 November 2013 12: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: smile
            for almost a week they almost sat on tanks (make a discount on my childhood perception at that time
            Then, in general, the time was rather "hot". A few years earlier, when the Enterprise entered Mediterranean for the first time, the Crimean MRAD regiment actually lived under the planes of its aircraft for two weeks. We, then still schoolchildren, took coffee and sandwiches to the airfield for our parents (food was organized, but we still want home) ...
        2. Odysseus
          Odysseus 12 November 2013 13: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: Misantrop
          Well I do not know. I already served then, we were formulated in a slightly different way.

          I don’t know, maybe to improve morale in the framework of the right political training?
          Quote: Misantrop
          By the way, bringing the USSR Armed Forces (even units) to increased combat readiness, too, I don’t remember something ...

          For example, http: //oficery.ru/security/2916
          Then they talked about the direct transfer of our soldiers to Vietnam, but I think this is still untrue.
  11. Ddhal
    Ddhal 11 November 2013 12: 30 New
    +1
    Good article, thanks to the author.
    I agree with
    The peace of Moscow and China, mutually beneficial cooperation is possible only when Russia is an equal force or surpasses China in a number of areas.
  12. vahatak
    vahatak 11 November 2013 15: 26 New
    +2
    It is strange that nothing is said about the prospects of a territorial dispute between Korea and China, taking into account the tago, that not a few Koreans live in the border regions of China and these lands are generally historically Korean. Today, of course, this conflict is not visible, since the DPRK is not able to fight with the PRC, but in the event of the unification of Korea, this will be the main concern of China.
  13. mountain
    mountain 11 November 2013 18: 23 New
    +1
    Of all the above countries, they certainly do not know how to fight, globally, the USA and China, Australia and other countries are buttons? Japan has endured its whole life, China. India, it acquires a lot of weapons, how will it really be ???
    Russia, to be afraid not only because of nuclear or other destructive weapons. Russian people, here is the strength of spirit and will.
  14. tankovod
    tankovod 11 November 2013 18: 51 New
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    Quote: mountain
    Russia, to be afraid not only because of nuclear or other destructive weapons. Russian people, here is the strength of spirit and will.

    The spirit of the spirit, but the most advanced rocket science and the resulting strategic nuclear forces have not been canceled, it’s so expensive to fight globally now that it’s not worth it.
    And China is geographically arranged in such a way that, unlike Russia, it will have nowhere to retreat, if only to dig into the mountains. And in the past, military victories did not shine, but this is also important.
  15. mountain
    mountain 11 November 2013 18: 57 New
    0
    Quote: tankovod
    Quote: mountain
    Russia, to be afraid not only because of nuclear or other destructive weapons. Russian people, here is the strength of spirit and will.

    The spirit of the spirit, but the most advanced rocket science and the resulting strategic nuclear forces have not been canceled, it’s so expensive to fight globally now that it’s not worth it.
    And China is geographically arranged in such a way that, unlike Russia, it will have nowhere to retreat, if only to dig into the mountains. And in the past, military victories did not shine, but this is also important.

    So, I say, on its territory. You are just a quibbler, tank leader.
    1. tankovod
      tankovod 11 November 2013 19: 06 New
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      Quote: mountain

      I’m not your boss, so that I’m not a mother-in-law to find fault with you, it’s just that while Russia didn’t have strategic nuclear forces, many tried to run up, received and came again, so the "Kuzkina mother" is still our main trump card
      1. mountain
        mountain 11 November 2013 20: 33 New
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        Well, not a father-in-law, that would give out explicit thoughts for dogma.
  16. 020205
    020205 11 November 2013 20: 43 New
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    well, at least kill me, but I believe it is sacred, that China is so far the only and most faithful ally of Russia (of course, no offense to our blood brothers like Serbs, Belarusians, and the rest are trash) and why? Yes, because the Chinese are now extremely it’s not profitable to remain face to face with the United States, they are perfectly eating Yusa’s collapse now (which I doubt very much) Our beautiful country, then China will be in such a position, it’s just stupidly not profitable. It’s easier to be friends! China, Russia, India (with Methun Chuck Raborti, respectively))))) well, North Korea and Iran, you can sign Assad, and yet Stsuka with nuclear farting. Well, what will the ball break up? Let everyone die for fun kraynyak !!! There are also many hot heads ready to have fun in the standings of Y. O. will we arrange a war game?
  17. mountain
    mountain 11 November 2013 21: 27 New
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    That's the point that China will not climb Russia soon. To him, China, his strengths and skills must be worked out on the small and weak. And behind these little ones, America. Here's Kama teeth comb hunting. Not too tough, we are right now, we can break all plans, the Chinese. Here you have the deal. Well, what do we need to prepare for and strengthen our homeland?
  18. Revolver
    Revolver 12 November 2013 02: 08 New
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    The peace of Moscow and China, mutually beneficial cooperation is possible only when Russia is equal force or superior to China in a number of directions.
    For now, I would like to hope so it is. But the trends are alarming. And some, including on this site, are glad that the Chinese want to buy the SU-35. For the first copies, of course, they will pay, perhaps a lot, and maybe some more for kickbacks, even though they do not say it out loud. And what they steal, if not technology, then design, and you don’t need to go to the grandmother. They already beat the original S-300 with a clone in the Turkish tender, what next? And who dozens, if not hundreds of clones of the SU-35, named J-some number will target?