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About Russian losses, the lies of the "liberals" and the truth of the exact sciences

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“Eternal values ​​exist to repeat them forever.”
Mahatma Gandhi


A quarter of a century has passed since the time when the spill of perestroika broke the utter darkness of the lack of information over those at the expense of whom the Kremlin was building communism. 25 years ago it became clear: the main tool for creating a new socio-economic structure is the demographic exploitation of the Russian people.
Recall that demographic exploitation is the use by the rulers of a country of the potential of a people to the detriment of the demographic well-being of that very people.

About the course of demographic exploitation
It is already known that it was precisely the ambition and utopianism of many power projects that brought the Russian people to extinction. Dispassionate statistics show the sad real course of events. Year by year the number of deaths exactly in Russian fields Russian the plains became greater than the number of births.
By the year 1980, the Pskov, Tver, Tula, Ryazan, Tambov, and Kursk regions had already died out.
By the 1985 year - Novgorod and Ivanovo regions.
By 1989, the Voronezh and Moscow regions blessed for life and prosperity were added to the areas of extinction. And finally - Moscow itself.
In Ukraine, 1989 of the year seven regions became extinct: Chernihiv, Sumy, Poltava, Kharkov, Cherkasy, Kirovograd and Vinnitsa.
As we see, the stagnation period is characterized by such a merciless demographic over-exploitation of the Russian people, that by the time of its collapse, the authorities dragged 18 regions of Russia and Ukraine to the grave of extinction.

At the beginning of 1990-x, with the change of government in the Kremlin, the liberals took over total power over the media and the economy of Russia. What has changed in the attitude towards the people, in whose interests, as it was constantly announced, the transformations were carried out? As a result of such a change of government in the Kremlin, the demographic exploitation of the Russian people intensified further. Most precisely this is indicated by statistics.
Over the 20 years of domination of the “liberals”, the demographic losses of the Russian people amounted to 20 – 21 million. Of them:
- Adult SUPERDECTS 9,5-10 million;
- Unborn children of 10,5-11 million.

There are no grounds for the Russian losses in 2010-x.
To appeal to the leaders of liberalism with a request to stop the destruction of the Russian people is absolutely useless. The most eminent persons at one time said bluntly that for “liberalized Russia” 15-20 million Russian from 110 million is enough. The rest is too much ballast.

I believe, dear readers, we need to realize and understand ourselves what is happening in Russia and what should be done now. First you need to recognize that the change of power in 1990-x changed only the type of extinction of the Russian people. There was an extinction from the "total darkness of communism", it became - from the "toxic gases" of liberalism. At the same time, I believe that the appointment of “poisonous gases” of liberalism is more terrible than the previous “darkness”, because it is characterized by an unarticulated desire to turn Russian people into “vegetables”, that is, to destroy the ability to think and feel like a Man in them. That's right - with a capital letter. Suffice it to recall the widely quoted statement by the chief education officer, who stated that our main task is to form a competent consumer. Note: not the creator, hero or creator, and the consumer. That is, nutritional biomass for the market.

The main "poison gas" of liberalism for Russia was, periodically sounding on all television channels, the statement: "There is no Russian people, but there is a mixture of other nations."
A right thinker and ideologist of the resistance of the peoples of India to the domination of British rule, Mahatma Gandhi, who said: “Eternal values ​​then exist to repeat them forever”.

The Russian people are the eternal value for the Russian people, which must be repeated in order for the people to exist forever!
Let me remind you also of Alexander Blok: "And the eternal battle, we only dream of peace! .."
For hundreds of years, various aliens and invaders attacked the Russian people. Sometimes they dominated him, but not for long.
So there will be a liberation from the power of the "liberals."

Now let us return to the topic of “poison gas” of liberalism, distributed on all Russian television channels, in the form of a statement: “There is no Russian people.” After all, this conviction is spread not only by shocking publicists, even eminent politicians and academicians do it!
Trying to influence them is pointless. But to you, dear readers, I will try with the help of the exact sciences to show the false assertion that "there is no Russian people." Here it is necessary to cast aside emotions, likes and dislikes.
Demography is an exact science.
Correctly, from the point of view of mathematics, only the multitude of people can be considered the PEOPLE, in which the awareness of belonging to their people is passed down from generation to generation.
Strictly speaking, a person’s awareness of the identity and value of his people is a necessary feature, without which the people cannot be in principle.

Let's look at the numbers.
In the USSR, censuses were held almost every decade. Among the questions the scribes were and about belonging to the people (nationality). At the 1926 census of the year, a special “circular” was used, which demanded that the respondent “... determine for himself what particular ethnic group he considers himself to be.”
Note that the answer was needed “not by passport”. The respondent himself had to name his native people. And later, almost all censuses were conducted in the same way: not by formal indicators, but by self-identification of a citizen.
Let's look at the results of censuses in the RSFSR in 1926 and 1989. and census 2010 of the year in the Russian Federation.
And that's how the answers were distributed, the table.

As you can see, millions of people in Russia from the census to the census clearly indicated their affiliation to a specific people.
Including, and Russian. But there have always been those for whom the value of belonging to one or another people had no meaning.
It follows from the table that in Russia they did not indicate or did not know their belonging to one or another people:

- In 1926, 4 is a person of 100 thousands of inhabitants;
- in 1989 year - 10 people;
- in the 2010 year - 25 people.


In principle, even 25 people on 100 000 - the value is negligible to take into account.

Let us estimate the probability of awareness of belonging to your Russian people for 2010 of the year = (142 856 536 - 5 629 429) / 142 856 536 = 96%.
At a minimum, 96% of Russian people each time at the census for a century indicated: "We, Russians, are." But publicists and individual eminent academicians insist that "there is no ..Russian people."

What degree should a super academician of a “academician” or a journalist have to, so as not to see exactly what the censuses show? ..
It is necessary to understand that the main thing in constant similar statements of liberals is a psychological factor.

About psychological sabotage
Regularity and constancy are the necessary conditions for suggesting to the mass of people one and the same thought. How not to recall the English proverb: “Tell a man a thousand times that he is a pig, he will believe and grunts!” For over twenty years, on all Russian television channels, it has been repeated daily and is still repeated: "There is no Russian people." If we state without emotions, then the effectiveness of the English method of suggestion is high. After all, the number of people who “grunted” in Russia during the liberalization period has increased 2,5 times, (see table above).
It is quite clear that the purpose of the suggestion is to besiege “in the people” the awareness of belonging to the Russian people, that is, to kill the necessary property, without which there can be no people.

Fortunately, among the Russian people there have always been those who tried to resist the “academicians” and publicists. They tried to convey to the general reader and listener the truth about the extinction of the Russian people. But the “liberals” totally dominated the media.
Here we must again recall the great, indomitable Mahatma Gandhi, who did not tire of repeating to his disciples:

At first they don't notice you
then laugh at you
then fight with you.
And then you win.


Here and in Russia, the process of Russian resistance was and is proceeding in the same way as in India of the 1940s. In Russia, in the 1990-ies appeared the lights of the Russian resistance. Under total domination, which the liberals had, then they could not ignore these lights, as they say. After all, any fire without combustible material fades. But the tireless Russian knights continued to spark sparks of resistance. And it was impossible not to notice them.

The second stage has begun, the one about which Mahatma Gandhi spoke. Almost all the Russian mass media “... began to laugh” over the knights of the Russian resistance and the Russian people. TV studio regulars, broadcasting daily from the screens of each apartment, began mockingly smiling and repeating: “Scratch the Russian - you will find a Tatar (a Jew, a German) ...”, but whoever you want, you will find it.
Such bullying can not be left without attention.
So it is useful to first explore history appearances: "Scrape Russian, you will find a Tatar".
Most likely, the beginning of this mockery in Astolph de Custine’s essay “Russia 1839”. In it, the author described the behavior of the noblemen of Tsarist Russia: “Under the outer gloss of European elegance, most of these upstarts retained the bearskin — they just donned it inside with fur. But it is enough to scratch them - and you will see how the wool comes out ... a little more than a hundred years ago, they were Tatars ”.
Note. The Frenchman Astolphe de Custine mocked the nobility of Russia. And the “Westerners” spread mockery to the whole Russian people.

After 1917’s distemper, the mockery of “scratching the Russian, you will find a Tatar” had to be very useful for the “ardent Bolsheviks”, the internationalists.
At first, for the "fiery Bolsheviks" it was very important to show the "non-existence" of the great Russian people. This was demanded by the idea of ​​the International itself. Therefore, the "fiery" first destroyed the concept of the Great Russian.
Secondly, the expression “scratch the Russian, you will find a Tatar” was very suitable for suppressing the self-consciousness of the Russian people. In the 1920s, the main “historian” of the USSR, the militant Trotskyite M. Pokrovsky, described the “non-existence” of the Russian people as follows: “Eighty percent of Finno-Ugric blood flows in the veins of the so-called Great Russian people”. As we see, the main “historian” of the USSR, in fact, directly mocked the Great Russians, reducing the homogeneity of the Russian people from 96% to 20%.
In the 1930s, the idea of ​​"non-existence" of the Russian people was picked up by the Nazis of Germany. At first, they “scraped” theoretically: “Two main races were established in Russia: the Turkic-Mongols and the Finno-Finns. Different nations overlapped each other, the Mongoloid mass gradually covered everything, but in different proportions. ” (René Binet, National Socialism versus Marxism).

22 June 1941, the Nazis decided to practically prove the "non-existence" of the Russian people. As a result, in May 1945, it was the Russian soldiers raised the banner of Victory over Berlin, refuting all the Nazi theses. But even the proof of the existence in Berlin of the Russian people was not convinced by all. The assertion of the "non-existence" of the Russian people was later continued across the Atlantic.
From the book of the President of the USA: “For two and a half centuries of the Tatar-Mongolian yoke, Russians practically disappeared in Russia. The Mongols diluted the Russian blood, thereby altering the original psychology of the Russian people. The Mongols brought into it aggressiveness, cunning, deceit, greed, laziness ". (Richard Nixon. Real War, “The Real War”, 1978).

So, in passing, the leader of a huge state, therefore, a certain authority in many areas, gave a destructive characteristic immediately to not only the Russian people, but also two other nations.
Please note, dear readers, that the Russian liberals of 1990-s for propaganda of "common human values" simply copied the beliefs of 19th-century Westerners, 1920-Trotskyists, 1930-Nazis and 1970-Americans.
The goal of all these theorists is the same - to inspire readers and listeners that "... the Russian people are some kind of mixture, garbage". It should be noted that such propaganda at one time helped both the Trotskyists and the Nazis. Though temporary, success was on their fronts! Russian liberals of the beginning of the XXI century believed that this suggestion would be effective for solving their problems. But in this "liberals" miscalculated. Exact sciences have proven the falsehood of the statement “Scratch Russian - you will find .... whoever you want.

What do other exact sciences say
Genetics is an exact science. Genetic changes in human communities are now mathematically calculated with high accuracy. Genetic heredity is transmitted to humans in 23 pairs of chromosomes. Y-chromosomal haplogroups (Y-DNA) are important for this study. This is a genetic “baton” transmitted from father to son. Every man who lives now has exactly the same Y-DNA as his father, grandfather, great-grandfather, great-great-grandfather and further into the depths of centuries. Women do not have this haplogroup at all.

Now at the beginning of the XXI century, real serious and correct scientists based on mathematically exact methods established the antiquity and unity of the genetic portrait of modern Russian people with those people who lived on the territory of the Russian plain thousands of years ago.
So, Anatoly Klyosov, before 1981, a professor at Moscow State University, and from 1990 year - Harvard University (USA) - proved by the mathematical methods of DNA genealogy that the ancestor of the modern Russian man appeared no less than 4500 years ago. You can read about it completely. here и here.

To date, the genetics of several countries have come to the same conclusion: the “genetic portrait” of modern Russian people is identical to the people who lived on the Russian plain more than four thousand years ago.
Genogeography, the study of the territorial distribution of the “haplogroups” proved the genetic homogeneity of the Russian people on the Russian Plain. Elena Balanovskaya (Medical Genetics Center of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences), exploring the geographical distribution of the “haplogroups” on the Russian plain using the methods of genogeography, confirmed the genetic homogeneity of the Russian gene pool. The results of the work are presented in the monograph. “Balanovskaya EV, Balanovsky OP,“ Russian gene pool on the Russian plain ”M .: Luch, 2007.

How did this study go? Scientists with test tubes and syringes took blood samples from 1228 Russian men living in the towns and villages of the 14 areas of the Russian plain from the White to the Black Sea. Blood was taken only from those whose ancestors lived in this area for at least four generations. Genogeographic maps show: Russian genetic territory extends throughout the Russian plain. On these maps, the Ural gene-geographic barrier to the path of the Mongoloid genes is clearly visible!

The fundamental conclusion of genogeography: the existing classification according to the Caucasoid-Mongoloid features does not at all correspond to the real genetics of the Russian plain. The Russian people have completely clear homogeneous genetic properties. In the Russian gene pool, the R1a1 set prevails on the Y-DNA chromosome. In the old Russian villages, this figure reaches 80%. The prevalence of the haplogroup R1a1 is the “Russianness” in terms of genetics.
For comparison:
The Western European haplogroup R1b among Russians is 6%.
Caucasoid haplogroup J2 among Russians is 2%.
Haplogroup C and O, present with a high frequency among the Turkic and Mongolian peoples, are insignificant in the Russian gene pool.
In addition, the Mongoloid component of the haplogroups in the Russian people is about 2%. And in Western Europe it is on average 3,6%. That is, Mongoloid in the Russian gene pool is even less than the "average in Europe"!


Whether someone likes it or not, the exact science of genetics refutes the assertions of nineteenth-century Westernizers, 1920's Trotskyists, 1930's Nazis and 1990's Liberals, that "... the Russian people are a mixture."
The homogeneity, the genetic homogeneity of the Russian people is a scientific fact.
Let's look at the data of another exact science - anthropology. As early as the 19th century, the prominent Russian anthropologist Anatoly Bogdanov (1834-1896) substantiated "the characteristic Russian features of the face." He wrote: “We use the expressions all the time:“ This is a purely Russian beauty ”,“ This is a poured hare ”,“ A typical Russian face ”. In each of us, in our "unconscious" there is a rather definite concept of the Russian type. " (A. Bogdanov. Monograph "Anthropological physiognomy", M., 1878).

Now about the Mongol-Tatar impurities. Mongoloidity is established by the presence of "epicanthus" (a special device of the eyelids). In Mongoloids, it is found in 70-95% of cases. Of the 10 thousands of Great Britain surveyed, epicanthus was found only 12 times, and only in its infancy. As seldom as in Germany (N. N. Cheboksarov. Mongoloid elements in the population of Central Europe. Uch. Zap. MSU, Issue 63 - M., 1941, p. XXUMX-235).

By the beginning of the XXI century, anthropologists investigated the appearance of a typically Russian person. To do this, they brought into a single scale photographs of typical representatives of Russian regions, combining them according to the pupils of the eyes. The results of the research allowed us to express a generalized photo for typical areas.
Examples of generalized images in the photographs:

Typical representatives of the Vologda-Vyatka zone

About Russian losses, the lies of the "liberals" and the truth of the exact sciences


Typical representatives of the Ilmen-Belozersky zone



Typical representatives of the Valdai zone



Of course, the contours of the head according to the results of combining the pupils of the eyes are blurred. After all, most men have different hairstyles. And for women - each has its own curling hair.
But it is not the hairstyles that are important, but the general appearance of the face, which consists of the totality and harmony of the forehead, eyes, lips, cheekbones and chin. All these elements, brought together by the pupils of the eyes, showed the similarity of the appearance of the Russian people in a number of regions of the Russian plain. As you can see, in the photo of Russian men and women are quite certain outlines of individuals.

The anthropological homogeneity of the Russian people is also a scientific fact. So that anthropology refutes the claims of Westerners of the XIX century, the Trotskyists 1920-x, the Nazis 1930-x and "liberals 1990-x" that "the Russian people are a mixture." Challenging accurate genetic and anthropological studies of the identity of the Russian people is the same as challenging a blood test in an outpatient clinic.

The “liberals” do not refute them, but immediately pass to the charges. In general, everything goes as Mahatma Gandhi said. In 1990's, they “did not notice” the knights of the Russian resistance. "Then they began to laugh," and at them, and at the Russian people. The "liberals" of the 2000 "began to fight." They demanded the prohibition of the concepts: "race", "racology", "anthropology". They say this is the revival of German Nazism.
After all, what kind of artistic flip-over was performed by the "gentlemen liberals" of Russia. At first, they adopted from the Nazis of Germany 1930 the arguments of the "non-existence" of the Russian people and the "mixture of" Turkic-Mongols and Finno-Finns. " But as soon as the exact sciences proved that the Russians are a racially monolithic people, the “liberals” demanded to ban racology. Then, the articles to combat extremism were introduced into the Criminal Code by law.
It is enough for any Russian activist to say:
“Russia was created and developed by the Russian people.”
- “Russians are a state-forming people”.
- “Russians are a divided people”
- “Russian Revival”
- “Russia is Russian power!”
- “Russian order on the Russian land”
- “Russian revenge is a victory”
- “Russian! Help Russian! "
- "Russian forward."

How then, from the “liberals”, orders are received by the law enforcement agencies of Russia to search for and imprison “Russian extremists”.

The “liberals” send letters to the State Duma demanding to prohibit the use of the concept “Russians” in laws and in the media.
In 1920's, “fiery Bolsheviks” banned the concept of “Great Russian”.
With 2000's, no less "ardent liberals" demand that the use of the word "Russians" be banned.

At the same time, propagandists of “universal values” are being bullied for hours and days on TV and radio: “There has not been and there is no Russian people. Scratch Russian, you will find ... Whom you want, you will find it ”. And in this case, it is already evaluated not as an insult, but only as freedom of speech.

How can you not remember George Orwell with his famous “Where falsehood prevails, TRUTH is called extremism there.”.
In general, and in 2010-x, everything goes, as Mahatma Gandhi said: “first laugh at you, then fight with you ...”.
If one turns away from emotions, the conclusion is again the same: the methods of suppressing Russian self-consciousness among the liberals of 1990's are the same as those of the USSR Trotskyists 1920 and the Nazis of Germany 1930.

Let's look at ancient written sources
Russian Metropolitan Hilarion, author of The Word of Law and Grace, written between 1037 and 1050 for years: “Not in the hood and unknown land of the land of Vladykhovsha, but in Ruska, you know and hear it with all four ends of the earth”. Translated into modern sounding, it would look like this: “They did not rule in a weak and obscure country, but in the Russian, which is known and famous in all four directions of the world.” So the concept of "Russian land" is certainly no less than a thousand years!
"The word about Igor's regiment" was also written long ago, at the end of the XII century. In it, the whole text runs through the text asserting that the narration is about the Russian people. Not about Finno-Ugric tribes, not about Tatars or Mongols or representatives of other nations! Here is how Igor addresses his squad: “I’m doing bog on the bottom of the Polovtsy’s field with you, Russi!” (“I want to break my spear in the steppes in Lovely Way with you, Rusichi!”). Or before the battle: “Polovtsi from all countries Ruskyya shelves ostupisha. The children of the demon are by the click of the field of the pre-city, and the brave Russians are partitioned with painted shields. ” (“The Polovtsi surrounded the Russian regiments from all sides, the children of demons clicked off the steppe, and the brave Rusichs blocked the steppe with scarlet boards”).

Throughout the text “Words” are literally scattered definitions of Russian feelings: “The wives of ruskiya burst into tears, arkuchi:“ Already for us, our dear way, neither the thought of sense, nor the thought ”. (“Russian wives burst into tears, lamenting:“ Already for us to love our dear ways, neither think, nor think it out ”).
As you can see, Prince Igor, his team, and their wives have an unequivocal awareness of belonging to the Rus, to the Russian people, and the same awareness of the value of their people.

So, written sources show that the Russian language and Russian self-consciousness, without which there can be no Russian PEOPLE, can exist on the Russian plain for at least 800 years.

The conclusions are as follows.
Conclusion one. The statement: “There are no Russians as a people, but only a mixture of other nations” is not based on anything, it is a complete lie. The 1990 liberals deliberately continue the same malicious propaganda of the 1920 Trotskyists and the 1930 Nazis, whose aim is to suppress Russian identity.

Conclusion two
. Exact sciences show the following:

- demography: the results of the censuses unequivocally say that the probability of becoming aware of belonging to their Russian people is demonstrated by at least 96% of the respondents.

- Mathematical methods DNA genealogists: the ancestor of the Russian people appeared at least 4500 years ago;

- Genogeography: the Russian people have completely clear homogeneous genetic properties. Its homogeneity is confirmed throughout the Russian Plain;

- anthropology: the image of the Russian people is defined and has no signs of Mongoloid.

Third conclusion. Written testimonies show: people living on the Russian plain - at least 800 years ago clearly recognized and affirmed their belonging to the Russian people, to the Russian people.

Fourth conclusion. The allegations that “... the Russian people were not and are not, but there is a certain mixture” that sound on Russian TV and radio is a psychological sabotage to suppress Russian self-consciousness. Without attention it is impossible to leave.

In conclusion, we recall Mahatma Gandhi and, a little, interpret his statement. The following will turn out: at first "the Trotskyists - the Nazis - the Liberals" fight with you, and then you win!
So, dear readers, the most serious final stage of Russian resistance lies ahead. We simply have no other choice. Together we will win!
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  1. makarov
    makarov 9 November 2013 08: 10 New
    +8
    Born on August 20, 1937 in a Russian peasant family, the village of Elezovka, Vilegodsky district, Arkhangelsk region.
    From 1957 to 1960, service in the ranks of the Soviet Army.
    In 1964 he graduated from the Kirov Ural Polytechnic Institute, faculty of radio engineering, majoring in electronic systems.
    Since 1964 he worked in the design bureau of the military-industrial complex. Development of instruments for aircraft control systems.
    Since 1972, scientific and technical research and development of scientific and technical forecasts on the subject of the enterprise.
    Since 1990, he began to research and develop proposals for the reform of local self-government.
    In 1994, at the All-Russian contest “Reform of Local Self-Government in Post-Soviet Russia”, held by the President Foundation and the Free Democratic Party of Russia, he presented the program, which took third place (out of 43 programs submitted to the competition). The program is based on the thousand-year-old zemstvo approach of Russian self-government. The program is presented by an explanatory note with a list of 40 most important measures necessary for the implementation of the program (the period of the first stages of the reform is 6-8 years) and a schematic network schedule.
    Since 1994, he began to study Russian demography. I came to the conclusion: academic methods do not allow us to find the "key points" and the reasons for the destruction of the demographic health of the Russian people.
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 9 November 2013 11: 09 New
      +4
      Respect and respect! good
      1. wow
        wow 10 November 2013 10: 15 New
        +4
        To the author - respect !!!
  2. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 9 November 2013 08: 16 New
    45
    Hatred by the liberals, I.V. Stalin at a banquet in honor of Victory proclaimed a toast to the Russian people, as the main one, on whom all the hardships of the war fell, as the main winner.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 9 November 2013 09: 16 New
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      Quote: Peaceful military
      Hatred by the liberals, I.V. Stalin at a banquet in honor of Victory proclaimed a toast to the Russian people, as the main one, on whom all the hardships of the war fell, as the main winner.

      Under the "hated dictator" Stalin, children were the greatest value and hope of the state, the population of the USSR was steadily increasing. According to the Central Statistical Administration of the USSR (1964):
      1927 year - 147 million people
      1941 year - 197.3 million people
      1946 year - 168.7 million people
      1953 year - 188 million people.
    2. George
      George 9 November 2013 10: 18 New
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      Quote: Peaceful military
      Hatred by the liberals, I.V. Stalin at a banquet in honor of Victory proclaimed a toast to the Russian people, as the main one, on whom all the hardships of the war fell, as the main winner.

      Once, after the great Victory, Stalin invited the famous Georgian film actor Spartak Bagashvili, who played in the film "Arsen". During the banquet, Bagashvili, who was sitting next to Stalin, began to terribly flatter the leader, delivering his speeches exclusively in Georgian. Stalin listened, listened, and then interrupted loudly, addressing the whole table:

      - Eccentric! He thinks I'm still Georgian!
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 9 November 2013 13: 41 New
        +2
        In my opinion, after the Victory Day parade at 45, Stalin said about himself - "I am a Russian Georgian", correct if I am mistaken
        1. George
          George 9 November 2013 17: 55 New
          +4
          Quote: ele1285
          In my opinion, after the Victory Day parade at 45, Stalin said about himself - "I am a Russian Georgian", correct if I am mistaken

          Vissarionovich called himself Great Russian of Georgian origin.
    3. Migari
      Migari 9 November 2013 11: 56 New
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      But we are getting the position of the Russians, that in Russia that in the Baltic states are approximately the same, if you said that I was Russian, then a nationalist.
      1. bolonenkov
        bolonenkov 9 November 2013 13: 44 New
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        Quote: Migari
        that in Russia and in the Baltic states are approximately the same, if you said that I was Russian, then a nationalist.

        Count your chromosomes)
        For the majority, the word Russian = Russian, I am absolutely satisfied with the phrase "Russian army", "Russian wars", "heroic feat of the Russian people", but the current fashion, to say these phrases implying only one nationality cannot but grieve, but emphasizes its "Russianness" one very well-known movement within the Moscow Ring Road, which is famous for the proximity of the flag of the multinational Great Russian Empire and the flag of Nazi Germany.
        1. Peaceful military
          Peaceful military 9 November 2013 14: 10 New
          +6
          Quote: bolonenkov
          Quote: Migari
          that in Russia and in the Baltic states are approximately the same, if you said that I was Russian, then a nationalist.

          Count your chromosomes)
          For the majority, the word Russian = Russian, I am absolutely satisfied with the phrase "Russian army", "Russian wars", "heroic feat of the Russian people"

          This is not so, the substitution of concepts in the American manner. We don’t need this, and tolerant Europe, too, do not rush to part with our national self-identification.
          Russian = Russian is a liberal ubl_doc designed to destroy the Russian people, a kind of Trotskyism.
          As for individual passionaries, they are in every society and, therefore, it is not necessary to judge the whole society by their antics.
          1. bolonenkov
            bolonenkov 9 November 2013 15: 25 New
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            Quote: Peaceful military
            This is and is not so, the substitution of concepts in the American manner

            Quote: Peaceful military
            Russian = Russian is a liberal ubl_doc designed to destroy the Russian people,


            It was you who changed the concept, for me the phrases "RUSSIAN PEOPLE", "RUSSIAN ARMY" or "FEAT OF THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE" do not cause absolutely any complaints, since for me these are phrases about a huge and great country whose name is Russia, and I am not I demand that instead of this they say "RUSSIAN ARMY", "FEAT OF THE SOVIET PEOPLE" or something like that.
            The phrase "RUSSIAN PEOPLE" just carries the information for knowledgeable people that we live in one big family, where the Russians themselves are a kind of cement that holds the entire population of Great Russia together.

            In a previous message, I wrote that problems begin when some stubborn representatives of nationalist movements make these words proof of the exceptional nature of the Russians, and they prove that it is the Russians who performed these or those exploits, while they not only wave with imperial flags and our native tricolor, and with the German-Nazi swastika, which everyone who respects himself RUSSIAN will not even take it into his hands.
            1. hrych
              hrych 9 November 2013 17: 18 New
              +8
              Again cement. No Russians are cement, Russians are monolithic white marble, formed over millennia with dark inclusions of other peoples, no more. This second-class cement does not suit us, it would be cooler than the ASG in culture, art, science and military affairs, no, Russians in all respects surpass foreign material and the number is not one in five, but 80 percent.
              1. goldfinger
                goldfinger 9 November 2013 17: 56 New
                -6
                Neighbor Belarusian. Watched "PURE-BLOOD RUSSIAN GENES" on YouTube, interesting.
                True, a cunning journalist, he strove to impose his opinion on the relationship between Russians and Ukrainians, but the scientist correctly avoided this.
                It turns out that genetics almost completely confirmed the conjectures of academic historians, archaeologists and linguists. Hungarians are only related by the Ugric language - Khanty and Mansi, genetically they are partly Slavs, partly Celts, partly Goths and Thracians who lived on that land before the Magyars.
                The Golden Horde is "Russia" and "Russians" in its purest form, and not alien Mongols, the Mongol Empire only accepted their duty and controlled remotely. Volga Tatars, Finno-Ugric and Russians of central Russia, are practically indistinguishable, only the language is different, it is not for nothing that among the Volga Tatars there are so many pink-cheeked blue-eyed blondes as among the Mokshans and Russians, although an external slight Mongoloidness is still visible, just look at Sobyanin or Mizulina but this is most likely not from the Mongols but from the northern peoples. They are completely sideways to the Slavs, and the Slavs are often brunettes and fair-haired, with thinner and higher facial features. The Novgorod Slavs sailed across the Baltic in a small amount from Poland in the 10-11th centuries, and very distant relatives to the Ukrainians, approx. 1000 years apart, and very little influenced the genetics of the indigenous Finnish peoples of northern Russia.
                Belarusians are Slavonic (Ukrainized) Balts. Ukrainians and those Ukrainians who have already begun to consider themselves Russian regions of the Russian Federation bordering Ukraine with the Kursk, Belgorod, Orel, Voronezh regions. these are Ukrainians cut off from the main Ukraine after the 18th century, the Kuban Cossacks are mainly Slavs-Ukrainians, the Terek Cossacks are partly Circassians.
                Military campaigns, both in antiquity and now, do not affect the gene pool, otherwise among the Russians in the west of the Russian Federation there would be massive French and Germans. So, the favorite suffering sufferings of the Russian Nazi imperialists about a triune but divided people are ordinary blah blah.
                And where did he come from, because Muscovy first annexed the Belarusian and Ukrainian lands only after the partition of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth with the Germans in the late 18th century.
                In Soviet times, of course, many Slavs came to the territory of Russia, with all sorts of construction projects of communism and concentration camps of communism, but the genetics of such immigrants were not taken into account, only the natural native population was taken into account.




                1. IS-80
                  IS-80 13 November 2013 14: 40 New
                  0
                  goldfinger are you still not an hour from the alternative fascist Russophobic universe?
              2. bolonenkov
                bolonenkov 9 November 2013 18: 01 New
                -11 qualifying.
                Quote: hrych
                Again cement. No Russians are cement, Russians are monolithic white marble, formed over millennia with dark inclusions of other peoples, no more. This second-class cement does not suit us, it would be cooler than the ASG in culture, art, science and military affairs, no, Russians in all respects surpass foreign material and the number is not one in five, but 80 percent.

                Do not you think that you have enough to pour? stop
                1. hrych
                  hrych 9 November 2013 18: 34 New
                  +9
                  I do not like that there are more than 80% of Russians in Russia? The Tatars are in second place - less than 4%, Ukrainians in third place (for me, also Russians) - 1,5%. The rest is from 1% and below. Typical mono-ethnic state. What cement in the ass, where the great non-Russian scientists or poets, there’s not a damn thing, there are a couple of Jews like Horiton, even fewer Tatars, everything else is Russian. Just beg, do not cite the example of Pushkin, whose dark-skinned grandmother is remembered, but forget that he belongs to the ancient Pushkins, dating back to Nevsky’s comrades, along two lines, inherited a poetic gift from his father, wit and poetryman, who has nothing to do with niggas. Go yourself, Pavlo, swallow whiskey, and instead of soda, put cement in yourself .... (wherever you want).
                  1. bolonenkov
                    bolonenkov 9 November 2013 19: 30 New
                    -4
                    Quote: hrych
                    This second-class cement doesn’t suit us, it would be cooler than ASG in culture, art, science and military affairs, no, Russians in all respects surpass foreign material and the number is not one in five, but 80 percent.

                    What did you mean by foreign material? So in due time the fascists spoke of Slavs - material.

                    Quote: hrych
                    I do not like that there are more than 80% of Russians in Russia

                    It’s just that I like it, which I reproached the author of the article, the share of Russians in the population of the Russian Federation is increasing, but not decreasing, as all the proponents like to shout.

                    Quote: hrych
                    What cement in the ass, where the great non-Russian scientists or poets, there’s not a damn thing, there are a couple of Jews like Horiton, even fewer Tatars, everything else is Russian.

                    Will Pushkin suit you as an example? Tsiolkovsky? Rudolf Nuriev? Alexander Matrosov? Bilyaletdinov? Chaadaev? Bulgakov? Turgenev? Kuprin? Tyutchev? Suvorov? Kutuzov? Arakcheev? Tukhachevsky? P. A. Stolypin?

                    Turkic blood flowed in the veins of such prominent rulers as Alexander Nevsky, Ivan the Terrible and Peter I. Most fully written about this in the fundamental book of N. A. Baskakov, “Russian surnames of Turkic origin”.

                    CONCLUSION!
                    The strength of the state was not in ethnic purity or even more meaningless purity of blood, but in the ability to work for the prosperity of a great power.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 9 November 2013 20: 16 New
                      +7
                      The homo dancer Nuriev, who died of AIDS, the enemy of the people, the Zionist punisher Tukhachevsky, well, you brought examples of great non-Russians, this is not pride, but a shame. Sailors - yes, the hero agrees, but if we take the Heroes of the Soviet Union according to the data of the mint, which excludes the distribution of heroes after the war with a crunch, etc., then we have:
                      Russians - 7998 people; 2021 Ukrainians, 299 Belarusians, 161 Tatars, 107 Jews, the rest less than a hundred. We see that the Slavs were more heroic than anyone and the registration of citizens was not according to the RSFSR, but throughout the USSR, where the percentage of Russians was not 80, but less than half.
                      Although it is not grateful to deal with the statistics of heroes, but it is on the face.
                      At the expense of the Turkic blood of nobles such as the Akhmatovs and their ilk, it has no direct relation to the Turks, this is the Gumilev heresy, refuted by the study of haplogroups, the fact that the Horde nobility merged into the Russian nobility in the form of Islamic clan names does not speak of their total non-Aryan origin , and about the Islamic religion of their ancestors. Let's haplogroup otherwise words, this is a blizzard. The accusations of Turkic origin, the centuries-old rulers of the Great Steppe — Polovtsy or Kipchaks — whom the Genghisides called relatives, although all chroniclers from the Romans to the Arabs described them as blond-haired, are especially funny. Suvorov is generally not at any gate, the surname from the word Suvory is an old, northern synonym for the Russian word severe.
                      1. hrych
                        hrych 9 November 2013 20: 37 New
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                        At the expense of the notorious Türkisms, of which there were a hundred and counted out in Russian, a man in literature, namely the celebrated A.S. Pushkin, said a little more authoritatively than Baskakov (whom I, probably many did not read, but did not hear about him correctly).
                        In 1825, Pushkin had to defend the Russian language from blasphemy. Answering the article with a preface to the French translation of Krylov’s fables, he wrote: “Mr. Lemonte in vain thinks that the Tartar rule left rust in Russian. An alien language is not spread by saber and fires, but by its own abundance and superiority. What new concepts that required new words could bring us a nomadic tribe of barbarians who had neither literature, nor trade, nor legislation? ”
                        The examples of individuals you have cited can only say that they were able to express themselves within the framework of the "Russian world", whose ancestors had irrevocably dissolved in it. And the hockey players, of course, are tough guys, but with nuclear physicists like Kurchatov and the missile engineer Korolev, they look strange and are unlikely to stay in a thousand-year history.
                        Former allied "brothers", having abandoned the "Russian world", simply, as if by magic, degraded in ten years, and if the Central Asians simply fell into the Middle Ages, but a clear degradation manifested itself in the life of the Baltics and even Ukraine, with regards to science and technology in particular ...
                      2. Aaron Zawi
                        Aaron Zawi 9 November 2013 22: 00 New
                        -3
                        (stunned) And how did the "Pillar nobleman" Tukhachevsky become a Zionist? Or is a Zionist a curse for you? Then at least put it in quotation marks.
                      3. hrych
                        hrych 9 November 2013 22: 17 New
                        +6
                        Aaronchik, I'm sorry, the word needs to be fixed on TrotskyistZionists are people striving for the construction of a Jewish state in Palestine, to which Tukhachevsky was absolutely not involved. I tore my clothes and sprinkle ashes on my head.
                      4. bask
                        bask 9 November 2013 22: 28 New
                        +4
                        Quote: hrych
                        Zionists

                        Why Trotskyist-Zionist.

                        Zionism, from the word "Zion" - Ziyon, hill-rock.

                        Dimanstein wrote in 1919: "Zionism has many faces. It sticks on itself any theory. It was Socialist-Revolutionary, Marxist - all shades. We could see it under any color. This shows how Jewish nationalism can adapt, what a master it is at this no other nationalism of any people has reached this point, only the Zionists are capable of this. "http://nfor.org/books/Noch_Svaroga/06part11.php
                      5. Aaron Zawi
                        Aaron Zawi 9 November 2013 22: 55 New
                        +1
                        I apologize for the question, but did Dimanstein not be a member of the CPSU (b) Eusection? Because the Zionists did not have greater enemies than the Jewish Communists.
                      6. bask
                        bask 9 November 2013 23: 23 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Aron Zaavi
                        I eat the Jewish Communists.

                        Communists are Jews, had different views on Zionism.

                        S.L. Zivs: "The Soviet government at the beginning of 1942 brought to the attention of the world community the facts about the atrocities, and, in particular, about the scale and nature of the genocide against the Jewish population ... the document-note of the People's Commissariat for Foreign Affairs of the USSR" On widespread robberies, devastation of the population and monstrous atrocities of the German authorities in the captured Soviet territories "http://www.eleven.co.il/article/12174
                        Zionist organizations immediately reacted to this document, declaring it ... "Bolshevik propaganda".
                  2. Aaron Zawi
                    Aaron Zawi 9 November 2013 23: 06 New
                    +1
                    No problem. By the way, in the memoirs of Yulian Semenov there is an interesting story about his fishing with Marshal Chuikrv. There he asked the marshal about the "Trotskyism" of the heroes of the Civil War. He said to him, well, what do you want if Trotsky was the People's Commissar Voenmor from 18 to 25 years, so he himself asserted everything from the division commander and higher, or even put forward, so they were Trotskyists, no matter how you look.
              3. goldfinger
                goldfinger 10 November 2013 17: 14 New
                -5
                Genetically, Russians are not “Eastern Slavs” at all, but Finns.
                .
                In 2000, the Russian Foundation for Basic Research allocated a grant to scientists from the laboratory of human population genetics of the Medical Genetics Center of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences. For the first time in Russian history, scientists were able to fully concentrate on studying the gene pool of the Russian people for several years. They supplemented their molecular genetic studies with an analysis of the frequency distribution of Russian surnames in the country. This method was very cheap, but its information content exceeded all expectations: a comparison of the geography of surnames with the geography of genetic DNA markers showed almost complete coincidence. So, it turned out that the Russians are not “Eastern Slavs”, but Finns. By the way, these studies completely smashed the notorious myth of the "Eastern Slavs" - that supposedly Belarusians, Ukrainians and Russians "constitute a group of Eastern Slavs." The only Slavs from these three peoples were only Belarusians, but it turned out that the Belarusians are not “Eastern Slavs” at all, but Western ones because they are genetically practically the same as the Poles. So the myth of the “kindred blood of Belarusians and Russians” turned out to be completely destroyed: Belarusians were virtually identical to Poles, Belarusians are genetically very far from Russians, but they are very close to Czechs and Slovaks. But Finns of Finland turned out to be much more genetically closer to Russians than Belarusians.
                .
                So, on the Y-chromosome, the genetic distance between Russians and Finns in Finland is only 30 arbitrary units (close relationship). And the genetic distance between the Russian person and the so-called Finno-Ugric peoples (Mari, Vepsians, Mordovians, etc.) living on the territory of the Russian Federation is 2-3 units. Simply put, they are genetically IDENTAL. Since the closest relatives for the Russians are Finno-Ugric and Estonians (in fact, they are the same people, because a difference of 2-3 units is inherent in only one people), then the anecdotes of Russians about “inhibited Estonians” are strange, when the Russians themselves are these Estonians. A huge problem arises for Russia in the self-identification of itself as supposedly "Slavs", because genetically the Russian people have nothing to do with the Slavs. In the myth of the "Slavic roots of Russians," Russian scientists put a fat point: there is nothing of the Slavs in Russians. There is only near-Slavic Russian language, but also 60-70% of non-Slavic vocabulary in it, therefore the Russian person is not able to understand the languages ​​of the Slavs, although the real Slavic understands any (except Russian) due to the similarity of Slavic languages.
                .
                The results of the analysis of mitochondrial DNA showed that another closest relative of the Russians, except for Finns in Finland, is the Tatars: Russians from the Tatars are at the same genetic distance of 30 arbitrary units that separate them from the Finns. No less sensational were the data for Ukraine. It turned out that genetically the population of Eastern Ukraine is Finno-Ugric: Eastern Ukrainians are practically no different from Russians, Komi, Mordovians, Mari. This is one Finnish people who once had their own common Finnish language. But with the Ukrainians of Western Ukraine, everything turned out to be even more unexpected. These are not Slavs at all, just like not Russophins of Russia and Eastern Ukraine, but a completely different ethnic group: between the Ukrainians from Lviv and the Tatars the genetic distance is only 10 units. Such close kinship between Western Ukrainians and Tatars is probably due to the Sarmatian roots of the ancient inhabitants of Kievan Rus. Of course, there is a certain Slavic component in the blood of Western Ukrainians (they are more genetically close to the Slavs than the Russians), but this is still not the Slavs, but the Sarmatians.
              4. hrych
                hrych 10 November 2013 18: 16 New
                +2
                30 conventional units is what? Dollars, grams. You old man ignoramus.
              5. hrych
                hrych 10 November 2013 18: 19 New
                +1
                Here’s another table for you, check your son and enlighten. In the north of Belarus, Finnish N3 is more than that of Tatars, Chuvashs and Mordovians.
              6. goldfinger
                goldfinger 10 November 2013 20: 06 New
                -1
                Quote: hrych
                You old man ignoramus.

                Again cement. No Russians are cement, Russians are monolithic white marble, formed over millennia with dark inclusions of other peoples, no more. This second-class cement does not suit us, it would be cooler than the ASG in culture, art, science and military affairs, no, Russians in all respects surpass foreign material and the number is not one in five, but 80 percent.Quote KIND.

                The neighbor is Belarusian. "Be rude, lad!" I. Ilf. E. Petrov. Where are we, the dark ones, to the "elder brothers", marble, concrete-granite, with dark inclusions of other non-people, like Belarusians. Eh you RACIST FUCKING !!!

                I AM BELARUS MUSIC ...

                I am a peasant-Belarus, -
                Pan sahі i kasy;
                Tsamen himself, white vus,
                Pyadzi dzve valasy.

                But father to me,
                Gadavaў karmіў,
                There was a quack
                Praca silu gave.

                Hot Pagardu Tsarpl, -
                Mushu was deaf and dumb;
                Hotz will eat bread for carmel, -
                I eat the meat myself.

                Zyazhkay prazi Mai
                Karystayuts a mustache,
                Only for me
                Nyama jakuy nidze.

                Look, high boron,
                Vokam nelga prabіts;
                Zagudzeў my tapor, -
                Yak blіn field lyzhyts.

                Soshku from above,
                Kabylychku ўshchamіў,
                Shoulders trokhі I will jumpх, -
                Forest on Pahan zrabіў!

                Smoke sowing a piece,
                Sweat out of the page ...
                Pan pshanіchkі wheelbarrow -
                Lyuba Glanut - naklazў.

                Duc eight, people, yakі
                I am a peasant-Belarus!
                Pad іlbom сінякі,
                Tsamen himself, white vus.

                Hey, kab chimen nyaў,
                Read books, -
                I’ll share a share,
                I’ll be a song!

                I’m patrapin telling,
                I’m a chalawek,
                What I Garavats
                I put all the century.


                1905–1907 J. Kupala

                Because of such homophobic racists, we also have a corresponding perception of Russia.
              7. hrych
                hrych 10 November 2013 20: 13 New
                +1
                If I turned out to be a homophobe, apparently you're rear-wheel drive, then I'm sorry, the conversation is over. What kind of stingy, mediocre writings? Yes, and you turned out not to be a Belarusian man. I hope Old Man pinches you.
                Not a ballet worker, nor a couturier, that you’re fooling me ...
              8. goldfinger
                goldfinger 10 November 2013 21: 03 New
                0
                Anger prevailed, damned. I'm used to the fact that this topic is almost the most relevant on the site. So it stuck in my head. Ashipka left. Sorry for the word. "Xenophobe" - to believe corrected.
              9. goldfinger
                goldfinger 10 November 2013 21: 06 New
                0
                Quote: hrych
                If I turned out to be a homophobe,

                "Ashipka" is out. The word is not a sparrow. Excited, sorry. "Xenophobe" - to believe corrected.
              10. hrych
                hrych 10 November 2013 21: 16 New
                +2
                Well, come on, it happens. Don't be so wrong anymore. Although, I was completely not offended by a homophobe. drinks
      2. kaktus
        kaktus 10 November 2013 20: 00 New
        +1
        Ну и что?
        By whose order and on whose grants were these studies conducted?
        Link to source (except Wikipedia) -?
        A lot of idle talk, zero sense
  • arnulla
    arnulla 9 November 2013 19: 23 New
    0
    And who do you think is "second-rate cement"? I'd love to hear ...
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  • goldfinger
    goldfinger 10 November 2013 17: 09 New
    -3
    Quote: hrych
    Again cement. No Russians are cement, Russians are monolithic white marble, formed over millennia with dark inclusions of other peoples, no more. This second-class cement does not suit us, it would be cooler than the ASG in culture, art, science and military affairs, no, Russians in all respects surpass foreign material and the number is not one in five, but 80 percent.

    Russia is Muscovy.
    The new discoveries of Russian scientists allow us to take a fresh look at the whole policy of medieval Muscovy, including its concept of Rus. It turns out that “pulling the Russian blanket over itself” by Moscow is explained purely ethnically, genetically. The so-called "Holy Russia" in the concept of the Russian Orthodox Church and Russian historians has developed on the fact of the rise of Moscow in the Horde, and, as Lev Gumilyov wrote, for example, in the book "From Russia to Russia", Ukrainians and Belarusians ceased to be Rusyns on the same fact, ceased to be Russia. It is clear that there were two completely different Russia. One, Western, lived its Slavic life, united in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Russia. Another Russia - Eastern Russia (more precisely Muscovy - because it was not considered Russia at that time) - entered the Horde ethnically close to it for 300 years, in which it then seized power and made it "Russia" even before the conquest of Novgorod and Pskov to the Horde-Russia. This second Russia - the Russia of the Finnish ethnic group - is also called the Russian Orthodox Church of Moscow and Russian historians "Holy Russia", while depriving the rights of Western Russia to something "Russian" (forcing even the entire people of Kievan Rus to call themselves not Rusyns, but "Okraintsy" ) The meaning is clear: this Finnish Russian had little in common with the original Slavic Russian.
    .
    The centuries-old confrontation between the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Muscovy (which seemed to have something in common in Russia, the Rurikovich and the Kiev faith, and the princes of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania Vitovt-Yuri and Yagaylo-Yakov were Orthodox from birth, were Rurikovich and Grand Dukes of Russia, there is no other language except Russian they knew) - this is a confrontation between countries of different ethnic groups: the ON gathered the Slavs, and Muscovy - the Finns. As a result, for many centuries two Russia opposed each other - the Slavic ON and Finnish Muscovy. This is also explained by the glaring fact that Muscovy NEVER during her stay in the Horde expressed a desire to return to Russia, to gain freedom from the Tatars, to become a member of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. And its capture of Novgorod was caused precisely by the negotiations of Novgorod on joining the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. This Russophobia of Moscow and its “masochism” (“the Horde yoke is better ON”) can be explained only by ethnic differences with the primordial Russia and ethnic proximity to the peoples of the Horde. It is this genetic difference with the Slavs that explains Muscovy’s rejection of the European way of life, hatred of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Poles (that is, of the Slavs in general), and a great love of the East and Asian traditions. It has long been necessary to introduce into historical science the fact that there was not one Russia, but two completely different: Slavic Russia - and Finnish Russia.
    1. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2013 17: 37 New
      +2
      The first is that there is enough gumilyism, historical science has not recognized it before, it has been refuted by modern science. Referring to him now is just stupid.
      Second - New discoveries of scientists - balobolstvo, give links, but these discoveries say something different about Russians, I will not repeat the article, apparently writing in comments, you did not bother to read the article. Oddly enough by haplogroups, the Finno-Ugric component is stronger than in Russia precisely in Ukraine and Belarus and the Baltic states, because Hungarians were neighbors there, and in the Baltic there were Chukhons, who heavily choked Lithuanians and Belarusians.
      Thirdly, there are peoples moving in the history of civilization, so the Babylonians, Egyptians, Romans, now these are Russians, whoever they are, you want to see the Finns in them (even though your nonsense is not connected with the exact science of genetics) let the Finns be. So the Finns created a great nuclear and space empire, and you mean a miserable race worthless and that means a place for you on the outskirts of civilization and history, even your super purest bloodlet. There is another component of civilization - its language, which is the study of science and literature in universities, which make drawings of starships and intercontinental rockets. Say what you like on the front lines of progress and culture - the Russian language, and not the Ukrainian language, Lithuanian, Belarusian, and even more so not Latvian. That's who the native speaker of this language is right, of course for some reason he is not Finnish, but all right.
      We have Russian classics recognized by everyone, even by the hostile world. And the guide is great Lithuanian or Belarusian writers, oh no, what a pity. What made the ON and the Speech famous for that they were all banged and divided, so they are frail and according to the laws of the jungle there is no place for weaklings in history. Fortunately, Belarus, unlike a few hundred dolbians, does not leave the "Russian world", and as a part of it has its greatness, but what is there separately? Never mind. The last war with the Germans, which showed that they had swept both Ukraine and Belarus, they were not, they were turned to dust. Russia survived, apparently the Finno-Ugrians are so much cooler than you, but they liberated you and Poland in addition, and even gave the state to those who themselves did not deserve to conquer it in battle, so they owe the drunkenness of three drunks in Belovezhie.
    2. hrych
      hrych 10 November 2013 18: 02 New
      +3
      These are all emotions, and now back to the science of haplogroups:
      The predominant carriers of haplogroup N are Finns (68%), Balts (46%), in Belarus N3 = 10% on average: from 8% in the south of Belarus to 19% in the north. So much for the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, sheer Finno-Ugrians. You can now say: "Ha, ha, ha! Learn the materiel, sonny, you will be very smart."
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 9 November 2013 14: 17 New
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    Quote: Migari
    But we are getting the position of the Russians, that in Russia that in the Baltic states are approximately the same, if you said that I was Russian, then a nationalist.

    No, in the Baltics everything is harder and harder, if only because the title owners are really supported by the owners, and the Russians are left to fend for themselves. Therefore, many Russians, who are younger, turn into "Ivanov not remembering kinship", become such cosmopolitans of American bottling, and the most cynical part, in order to get to the trough, become much more rabid Russophobes than the titular fascists.
    1. varov14
      varov14 9 November 2013 16: 08 New
      +3
      So the same thing is visible with us. It turns out that Russian liberals will call their mother mother w ..., just to prove that Dad was not Russian.
  • goldfinger
    goldfinger 9 November 2013 17: 47 New
    -3
    Quote: Migari
    if you said that I am Russian, then a nationalist.

    Neighbor Belarus.
    Yes, utter nonsense are talking about some kind of "pure" Slavic genes. All sorts of Krivichi, glade, Drevlyans lived on the Central Russian Plain, and there and then there lived numerous Finno-Ugric burghers, Chudi and Vody. And along the Volga the Bulgars-Turks also lived. All of them are over ... uh, sorry, well, it's clear what I mean. As a result, the Great Russians appeared. The toponymy of the Middle Belt contains almost half of the Finno-Ugric names, and the Russian language has a quarter, if not a third, of Tatar roots. Therefore, the Tatars come across fair-haired and blue-eyed, and the Russians are slanting and cheekbones. And try to distinguish a Mari from a Russian - hell will come out. Even in the genetic laboratory ...
    Another objective fact: the Russians were actively mixed with the Siberian peoples. Of course, a cross between a Slav and a Finno-Ugric on the skull cannot be determined - one race. But somewhere all these tribes had to go? In the end, look at the portrait of Andrei Bogolyubsky: with such a physiognomy, not Vladimir rule, but Samarkand.
    1. hrych
      hrych 9 November 2013 22: 08 New
      +2
      A quarter or a third of Tatar roots would turn the language into Altai. Take all Türkisms and there will be a hundred of them and counted out 200 Aryan words (according to the outdated Dahl), the current Russian has more words of English origin thanks to computer terms than Turkisms. Everyone fucks now, before it was very strict, they married according to their estate, faith, and it’s better to be silent about race. Another thing is war, defeated by their women are not masters, but the trouble is, the winners at the end were always Russians, including the last great war. Enough to carry liberal, tolerant, LGBT nonsense, which unfortunately has not been confirmed by the study of haplogroups, if DNA is not a decree for you, please go to the category of uneducated, dark personalities. About the slanting of Russians, i.e. they wrote about the epicanthus to you in the article, apparently they didn’t read the damn thing either.
    2. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 9 November 2013 23: 02 New
      +1
      Actually, according to you, it turns out that there were twelve tribes in Judea, they passed .. and it turned out Israel from which all were born. Glades, Drevlyans, Krivichi, Antes, and even half of Europe descended from the Slavic language, the root of which is "Glory" is the Russian Mother of God, who, according to ancient legend, gave birth to Veles, Perun and all others. She was called the "Queen of Heaven" and "Theotokos", it is for this reason that Christianity so quickly took root in Russia that it did not replace the most important concept, the protection of the Russian land by the "Mother of God", only the current "Mother of God" gave birth to one One, and became younger in time for several millennia, but the name itself remained with a change, which now, according to the spelling, is written as a proper name with a capital letter.
  • Humpty
    Humpty 9 November 2013 08: 31 New
    16
    Imagine these not cunning theses of the Russian activist from the lips of for example Putin. Well, what happened? I am not a nihilist to whom any power is bad, but the existing one continues to realize the ideas of Trotsky-Bukharin.
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 9 November 2013 10: 41 New
      13
      At one of Putin's meetings with the people broadcast on TV (it seems like the annual answers to questions), Putin said these words: “Scratch a Russian - you will find a Tatar.” I remember well.
      Without determining in the Basic Law - the Constitution of the Russian Federation that Russians are a state-forming nation, it will be difficult for us to defend Russia's unity.
      Oh, when will the Russian people and the other peoples living in Russia with them throw off the yoke of the liberals who are destroying the Russian and other peoples of Russia?
      1. bolonenkov
        bolonenkov 9 November 2013 15: 29 New
        -2
        Quote: vladimirZ
        Without determining in the Basic Law - the Constitution of the Russian Federation that Russians are a state-forming nation, it will be difficult for us to defend Russia's unity.

        How will this definition strengthen the country? What will this give primarily to the Russians themselves?
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 9 November 2013 17: 42 New
          +5
          How will this definition strengthen the country? What will this give primarily to the Russians themselves?


          Introduction into the Constitution of the Russian Federation of the provision that Russians are the state-forming nationality of Russia emphasize the thousand-year-old historical merit of the Russian people for the creation of the Russian state, which made it possible to survive on its territory not only to the Russian people, but also to all other small nations and nationalities living on its territory.
          It will stop all insinuations expressed against Russian and Russian history of all kinds of falsifiers, give a historical ideological orientation to the Russian state, which our society so lacks.
          This will be historical truth, which should rally around the Russian people all the small nations and nationalities that have come under the protection of the Russian people and retained their individuality in the fraternal family of nations and will not allow the growth of separatism in Russia.
          This will allow, on an ideological basis for community with the Russian people, to amend the Constitution of the Russian Federation in Article 5 and eliminate the legal contradiction laid down there: clause 1 of article 5 declares the equality of all subjects of the federation, and clause 2 defines the special status of such a subject of the federation as a "republic" called a "state", which lays down the constitutional inequality of subjects on a national basis, giving rise to the growth of separatist sentiments in national republics (states ).
          If the state-forming role of the Russian people is not fixed in the Constitution of the Russian Federation, this will serve as an occasion for the growth of separatism, primarily in national republics (states - under the current Constitution) and inevitably, with the weakening of the central government of the state, will lead to the collapse of Russia, as it was with the USSR, to the troubles and sufferings of ordinary people of all nationalities, and especially for the Russian people living in national republics, as was the case in Central Asia, the Baltic states, Chechnya, etc.
          1. bolonenkov
            bolonenkov 9 November 2013 18: 12 New
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            Quote: vladimirZ
            will stop all insinuations expressed against Russian and Russian history of all kinds of falsifiers, give a historical ideological orientation to the Russian state, which our society so lacks.

            Do not you think that this is a matter of scientists, cultural figures, and first of all, conscious parents?

            Quote: vladimirZ
            This will make it possible, on an ideological basis of community with the Russian people, to amend the Constitution of the Russian Federation in Article 5 and eliminate the legal contradiction laid down there: paragraph 1 of Article 5 declares the equality of all subjects of the federation, and paragraph 2 defines the special status of such a subject of the federation as a "republic" called the "state"

            What are the key advantages of the republic over the regions, which prevents different nations from coexisting?
            Quote: vladimirZ
            If the state-forming role of the Russian people is not fixed in the Constitution of the Russian Federation

            How will it sound on paper? Will this fact seem to be the "advantage" of one people over another for people of other ethnic groups of the Russian Federation?

            Quote: vladimirZ
            this will serve as an occasion for the growth of separatism, primarily in the national republics (states - under the current Constitution)

            An attempt to "bend" other nations under itself leads to separatism.

            Quote: vladimirZ
            as it was in Central Asia, the Baltic states, Chechnya, etc.

            As for Central Asia, they didn’t separate anywhere, it just suddenly turned out that after the Bialowieza agreements between Belarus, Russia and Ukraine, they were, as it were, the outskirts of a nonexistent empire.

            As for Chechnya, it’s already stubbornly clear that the fire was not kindled from within, but from without, with the complete connivance of the country's leadership.

            The Baltic States, a good example of the fact that you will not be forcibly sweet, with all my dislike for these countries.
      2. varov14
        varov14 9 November 2013 16: 13 New
        +7
        “Putin uttered these words:“ Scratch a Russian - you will find a Tatar. ”“ ----- That's what I'm talking about, how one should not love one's own mother.
        1. hrych
          hrych 9 November 2013 17: 22 New
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          Saying such words, the new Eurasian or Asian Jew, only demonstrated his complete incompetence in anthropology and genetics. And again, the assumption that the Russians endured, and did not kick the talker out of the Kremlin. I hope that in his place, along with Kiryukha Gundyayev, will come more educated and decent people.
          1. bolonenkov
            bolonenkov 9 November 2013 19: 34 New
            -10 qualifying.
            You do not know the history of your country, and you are trying to portray something here ...
            1. hrych
              hrych 9 November 2013 20: 52 New
              +7
              Ah, you, like a know-it-all here. There are results of an exact science, which, incidentally, confirmed the chronicles of the Romans, Arabs, Chinese, etc., which, like, somehow, ignored you, because they embarrassed the Tolerasts and smelly Eurasians.
              Here is the esteemed historian Mavro Orbini uttered: “The Russian people are the most ancient people on earth, from which all other peoples descended. The Empire, with the courage of its warriors and the best weapons in the world for millennia, has kept the entire universe in obedience and humility ... ”
              So we still have the best weapons, a monopoly on outer space and the largest state, even after EBN circumcision, and here you continue to carry the blizzard of the friendship of peoples.
      3. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel 9 November 2013 23: 15 New
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        It does not reach "Vladimir" that when a RUSSIAN is scraped, a Tatar is found in him, because the Tatar gave birth to a Russian. Now, if the Tatar had been scraped and found in him a particle of Russian, it would mean that the Tatar "rode" on the Russian mare. But in Russian you can find both the Khazar, who escaped from the Mongols, fled to the Russian land, and the Scythian, by the way, the Bible in the "Book of Maccabeus" says that the children of Magog (great-great-grandson of Noah) created Scythia.
  • Deniska999
    Deniska999 9 November 2013 08: 41 New
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    But under the Soviet regime, the Russian people grew, and since the 1990s it has rapidly died out.
    1. Orik
      Orik 9 November 2013 13: 06 New
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      Have you read the article? There in black and white:
      Impartial statistics show a sad real course of events. Year after year, the number of deaths in the Russian regions of the Russian plain became more than the number of births.
      By the year 1980, the Pskov, Tver, Tula, Ryazan, Tambov, and Kursk regions had already died out.
      By the 1985 year - Novgorod and Ivanovo regions.
      By 1989, the Voronezh and Moscow regions blessed for life and prosperity were added to the areas of extinction. And finally - Moscow itself.
      In Ukraine, 1989 of the year seven regions became extinct: Chernihiv, Sumy, Poltava, Kharkov, Cherkasy, Kirovograd and Vinnitsa.

      The main thing is to shout ?!
      1. gusev_sa
        gusev_sa 9 November 2013 15: 24 New
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        Auntie, the article is written nonsense. The Russian population increased, from these areas there was a migration outflow to large cities, which is completely natural.
        The author is a typical freak, it was socialism that provided the most favorable conditions for the development of the Russian people.
        1. Orik
          Orik 9 November 2013 16: 14 New
          +1
          Son, do not go across the dad into the hell. In the 80s, the share of urban and rural population is almost stable.
        2. Orik
          Orik 9 November 2013 16: 15 New
          +1
          But the Pskov region still loses the population. I think you’ll better understand with pictures ...
          1. igordok
            igordok 9 November 2013 18: 59 New
            +1
            According to "statistics", "tables", "pictures" the Pskov region in tsarist times should have gone into negative territory, but we live.
            Quote: gusev_sa
            from these areas, migration outflow to large megacities was observed, which is completely natural.

            It is indicated quite correctly. As under Peter began to build St. Petersburg, so still there in orderly rows.
  • Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 9 November 2013 08: 46 New
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    I am exactly that Russian whom you will "scratch and find a Tatar" (the late grandfather is a Tatar) and I absolutely do not care what my gallogroup is, I was born Russian, I live Russian and die Russian and I am proud of this, no liberoid will convince me otherwise ...
    1. Fox
      Fox 9 November 2013 09: 56 New
      +9
      Quote: Anatol Klim
      I am exactly that Russian whom "you scratch and find a Tatar

      I will not be upset, but the Tatars (except for the Crimean Khazars) have Russian roots ... hi
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 9 November 2013 12: 14 New
        +8
        Quote: Fox
        I will not be upset

        Fox! Yes, in our Volga region no one is upset. I have Russians, Ukrainians, Tatars, Bashkirs, Mordovians, Chuvashs working in my organization and no one has ever been interested in who has roots and which service novels suit you! Ryazanov is just resting.
  • svp67
    svp67 9 November 2013 08: 46 New
    +8
    The author, wait, now the guys from the "promised land" will appear and accuse you of Nazism ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 9 November 2013 12: 28 New
      +9
      Quote: svp67
      The author, wait, now the guys from the "promised land" will appear and accuse you of Nazism ...

      Why did you write nonsense? Nazism is an attempt to build a theory about the superiority of one nation over others. And the article considers the issue of the genetic identity of the Russian people. Like any historical question, this is extremely interesting, unless social and political conclusions are drawn on its basis.
      When I was 11, I read the essay book "Memory" by Vladimir Chivilikhin, and then I was still carried away by the history of glory. The author is right in many respects because there was no influx of Türkic genes into Slavic or even Slavic-Ugric (for by the 13-14th century the assimilation of the Finno-Ugric tribes of Vladimir-Suzdal Rus was completed) was not. It could not have been for up to 15 in Vladmiro-Suzdal, and then Muscovite Russia were on defensive positions relative to the Horde. And having gone over to the offensive on the remnants of "Ulus Jochi", the Russian State was already determined to create an empire and no mass withdrawal of the population from the conquered territories was carried out. A significant obstacle to mixed marriages already within the empire was the difference in religions. Even before the beginning of the 20th century, a marriage between an Orthodox and a Muslim woman was practically impossible. The only areas where Russian-Turkic families were massively created are the region of the Don Cossack and Siberia, and even then until the 17-18 century.
      1. svp67
        svp67 9 November 2013 12: 36 New
        +6
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Why did you write nonsense? Nazism is an attempt to build a theory about the superiority of one nation over others. And the article considers the issue of the genetic identity of the Russian people

        But how can I say, here in one of the materials I expressed some bewilderment that in the ranks of the "valiant" IDF are fighting blond and pockmarked wars and warriors of "Jewish" nationality, for which I was "branded" by the "professor" as an ardent National Socialist .. and here the author gives the same conclusions about how you correctly noted about the "genetic originality" ... so I'm waiting for the reaction of the "professors ..."
        1. kaktus
          kaktus 9 November 2013 14: 05 New
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          Well, in the promised land "a quarter of our former people."
          By the way, the IDF is one of the most combat-ready armies in the world.
          Of course, it would be better "from the taiga to the British seas - the Red Army is the strongest!"
          just in case
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 9 November 2013 15: 41 New
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            Quote: kaktus
            By the way, the IDF is one of the most combat-ready armies in the world.

            It can be strong and efficient, but VERY small.
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 9 November 2013 16: 54 New
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              Quote: Setrac
              ]
              It can be strong and efficient, but VERY small.

              Well, not really.
  • Prometheus
    Prometheus 9 November 2013 08: 47 New
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    Article +. Win, but soon?
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 9 November 2013 08: 56 New
    +6
    At the beginning of 1990-x, with the change of government in the Kremlin, the liberals took over total power over the media and the economy of Russia. What has changed in the attitude towards the people, in whose interests, as it was constantly announced, the transformations were carried out? As a result of such a change of government in the Kremlin, the demographic exploitation of the Russian people intensified further. Most precisely this is indicated by statistics.

    There is no demographic exploitation and extinction of the Russian people, there is a destruction of the Russian economy and a decrease in the birth rate. The higher the cost of living and the level of urbanization, the lower the birth rate. This law works for all countries of the world.
    In the 1960 year, the rural population in Russia was 50% families with many children were considered 5 children, in the 1984 year of the rural population became 25% large families were families with 3 children.
    During perestroika-reform, the liberal reformers robbed the Russian people and the birth rate fell almost to zero. Now even families with 2 children are rare, and soon with 1 children will be rare, where and what do young families live on?
    The Russian village does not die out, but moves to cities and other regions, where earnings are higher.
    People have left my Vyatka village 2 / 3 and are now living in Kirov, Moscow, Vyatskiye Polyany, the Urals, and Siberia.
    1. Mihail29
      Mihail29 9 November 2013 10: 09 New
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      The economy is of course correct and I agree with the influence of urbanization on the birth rate, but these things do not greatly affect the self-consciousness of the Russian people. It's just that those projects that have been carried out in Russia for many decades, such as the "Soviet" people, when Uzbek remained Uzbek, Georgian Georgian and only Russian became Soviet. Now the same Tatar has remained a Tatar, a Chechen is a Chechen and only a Russian is forced to become a Russian, specifically replacing the concepts of nationality and citizenship. I think so, we will not live well for a long time, because in a country with a Russian titular nation, while Russian supreme rulers are embarrassed to classify themselves as Russians, talk about Russians, etc. If there is such chaos in their heads, then education and the economy will be useless.
      1. Nomad
        Nomad 15 November 2013 01: 04 New
        0
        Mikhail is absolutely right, during the times of the USSR, Uzbek remained Uzbek, Kazakh - Kazakh, Chechen - Chechen (even their union with the Ingush did not help) ... Everyone remained themselves and even acquired, thanks to the innovations of the Bolsheviks, each people was given a republic, instead of the faceless in the tsarist the time of the provinces. And only the great Russian first became "Russian" (an adjective, not a noun. It denotes not the object itself, but its properties), then became "sovetsky" ... Now they are trying to make him, a Rus, a "Russian", reassuring him that everything living on the territory of Russia "Russians". At the same time, a Tatar remains a Tatar, a Chechen - a Chechen, a Yakut - a Yakut ... Continue? In short, all with their own, except for the Russians. Russians have long been the backdrop for other nations. Being "cement", "granite", the main mass around which, like satellites and meteorites around a large planet, small nationalities revolve, turned into a gray canvas against the background of which bright colors are painted on everyone except Russians.

        By the way, what happens to satellites and meteorites orbiting a large planet when it is gone ?!
    2. bolonenkov
      bolonenkov 9 November 2013 10: 56 New
      -2
      Quote: Corsair5912
      The Russian village does not die out, but moves to cities and other regions, where earnings are higher.


      What is the situation with the rural population in the highly developed countries of Europe? For example, France ??
      The rural population should be - a fact, but to say that with its current number in the Russian Federation it should not be reduced - nonsense, the time of agricultural countries passes, now one meat and dairy farm can be served by 20 employees, and will produce more than an entire village of 300 courtyards.
      1. kaktus
        kaktus 9 November 2013 11: 13 New
        +2
        And who will live in the largest country in the world? Chinese? And where will the field crop be? And not only agriculture can be practiced in rural areas, given our climate.
        1. bolonenkov
          bolonenkov 9 November 2013 15: 40 New
          0
          Quote: kaktus
          And who will live in the largest country in the world? Chinese? And where will the field crop be? And not only agriculture can be practiced in rural areas, given our climate.


          The question was exclusively about urbanization, and not about agriculture.
          There will be fields, and there will be someone to look after them, with current technologies, one machine a day makes more than one village, and one farm for the production of the same milk or meat can easily devote a couple of collective farms.

          Our multinational people will live in our country, and no Chinese can change this.

          On the site "made by us" there are many new industries and not only that are opening in rural areas.
          The first thing that came in November
          Tribal pigs from Denmark were brought to the Orenburg region
          http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/43342/
          A complex for growing and processing turkey meat is under construction in the Stavropol Territory
          http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/43314/
          In Achinsky district of the Krasnoyarsk Territory a family livestock farm was opened
          http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/43186/
          In the Kaliningrad region laid the first industrial fruit garden
          http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/43078/
          Miratorg launches new production in Kursk region
          http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/42770/
    3. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 11: 40 New
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      Quote: Corsair5912
      The Russian village does not die out, but moves to cities and other regions, where earnings are higher.

      Ma-a-scarlet nuance ...
      In the light of overloaded communications in cities, increased air pollution, high tariffs for communal services, people began to gradually return back to the village.
      And if there is an all-weather staircase, a good road, then what to do in the city?
      And in the village:
      - quiet;
      - Fresh air;
      - and no bastard knocks above your head, no GOOD MAN! (this is for moderators laughing ) does not drive Mouzon in the neighborhood; no noise of passing vehicles.
      1. Orik
        Orik 9 November 2013 13: 10 New
        +3
        It is important to add work, education and communication.
        1. kaktus
          kaktus 9 November 2013 14: 12 New
          +4
          And health care, otherwise they closed everything in the countryside.
          A small production and in silence, in the fresh air can be created.
          "Ah. If the dream came true, what kind of life would begin!" good
          1. Orik
            Orik 9 November 2013 16: 18 New
            +1
            He himself would have left for the family village. True, there are two of them, one in the Poltava region, and the other in the LO. First you have to work hard with reunion.
      2. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 9 November 2013 22: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        In the light of overloaded communications in cities, increased air pollution, high tariffs for communal services, people began to gradually return back to the village.
        And if there is an all-weather staircase, a good road, then what to do in the city?

        You are right who thinks and has the opportunity to move to the countryside.
        Moreover, in many villages in the Russian outback from the 70-80-s, comfortable houses with water supply, sewage and gas heating are being built.
        My sister lives in such a house in the Kirov region, at 500 m from the river and the forest.
        All have satellite dishes that receive on 350 channels, Internet access, and cellular communications.
  • Kolya
    Kolya 9 November 2013 09: 16 New
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    modern man differs from chimpanzees in genotype by 1.6%, and a common ancestor lived about 6 million years ago. With a gorilla, the difference is no more than 3% and 9 million years, respectively. With such small differences, liberals, Nazis, and the like can safely classify themselves as a nationality to choose from the above. Another fact, the peoples of Africa differ from each other in genotype more than the difference between the Eskimo and the last Tasmanian aborigine who died in the 20s of the last century. English colonists shot 40 Aborigines on this island. Back in the 000th century, hunting for Tasmanian natives was allowed by law, sheriffs hunted them like a kangaroo. It is hunting and not racial war !!! The explanation was that they differed externally from Western Europeans. They were not like that, and that’s all, and there’s no people! Now the Russians are not like that. See where they are driving ?!
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 9 November 2013 11: 18 New
      +4
      And they really want to shoot us exactly the same and are constantly looking for this opportunity. The bad thing is that our democrats are rendering them all kinds of help. The conclusion about what needs to be done with such democrats suggests itself.
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 9 November 2013 09: 17 New
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    The meanness of the "liberals" knows no limits: how many meanest fabrications fell on our heads, and now they have agreed to the point that the Russian people, that is, we (Russians) were not there, and we are not, and we are all a monstrous mess! I must say that the Great LOMONOSOV beat German "historians" in the face for distorting our history. The doctrine of destroying Russia, the last stronghold of light forces, has long been known: to distort history, deprive the people of national identity and ultimately turn them into an ever-munching herd. One of the little villains of the liberals was the abolition of the 5th column, they have something to hide, and we are Russians, the descendants of Russians and our descendants will also be Russians. And we have always been proud of that! Glory to Russia! Shame on the destroyers of the Russian people!
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 9 November 2013 09: 45 New
      +4
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      The meanness of the "liberals" knows no limits: how many meanest fabrications fell on our heads, and now they have agreed to the point that the Russian people, that is, we (Russians) were not there, and we are not, and we are all a monstrous mess! I must say that the Great LOMONOSOV beat German "historians" in the face for perverting our history.

      For a long time there have been absolutely objective archaeological data about the ancient roots of the Russian people, but "professional historians" do not want to recognize them, in order to please the enemies of Russia, they hold onto the German version with all four dirty shaggy paws.
      He looked in the mirror and saw a Kostenkovets, and his wife was a natural Sungirian.
    2. novobranets
      novobranets 9 November 2013 15: 37 New
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      Quote: kartalovkolya
      Shame on the destroyers of the Russian people

      Stalin in our era, comes to a meeting of the Duma. All were numb, silent. He says:
      - So, shoot all Democrats, and repaint the mausoleum in green!
      From the back rows, someone timidly asks:
      - And why in green?
      Stalin:
      “I thought that there would be no disagreement on the first question.”
  • sergerz
    sergerz 9 November 2013 09: 33 New
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    Because liberoids sing this song, that with their genetics is a complete paragraph. For example, the Jewish people, when they were few in ancient times, were forced to breed in a narrow circle of their relatives so as not to mix blood with gentiles. It was a terrible heredity. But the Russians did not have such problems because of their large number, and secondly, family ties were condemned. Therefore, the liberoid must prove the purity of its blood, but for us why. I have one great-grandfather from Arkhangelsk lands, another from Novgorod, the third from Ukrainians, the fourth from Kama. Difficult to meet relatives. So I am not only proud of my belonging to the Russian people, but I am also confident in the quality of my blood. And hello to the liberoids.
  • kaktus
    kaktus 9 November 2013 09: 56 New
    +8
    From the book of the President of the United States: “For two and a half centuries of the Tatar-Mongol yoke in Russia, Russians have practically disappeared. "
    Expert, expert ........ wassat
    Are there people in the USA?
    1. Colonel
      Colonel 9 November 2013 13: 49 New
      +6
      The stump of people of American nationality is clear and speaks American. lol
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 9 November 2013 15: 00 New
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        Want to get to America? Go serve in the Strategic Missile Forces.
    2. ele1285
      ele1285 9 November 2013 15: 30 New
      +2
      No dad, no people, no population. With monkeys at the head.
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 10 November 2013 12: 30 New
        +2
        Etozh, what president wrote a book like this: which choked on a pretzel and almost quacked, or the one that the day before yesterday got out of a palm tree, guess, well, Doka, but we knew nothing about ourselves by sin! He lived in those days, tads are full of respect and respect (look Schaub the place on the palm tree did not take the thinker)!
  • kaktus
    kaktus 9 November 2013 09: 58 New
    +1
    Mixed marriages - prYuvet genetic weapons! tongue
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 10: 02 New
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    The article is an undoubted PLUS! For the beautiful scientific justification of the anthropological appearance of Russian people.
    When he came to work in the north in the mid-80s, which immediately noticed a difference in facial features in comparison with the inhabitants of central Russia and the south of Ukraine, it seemed that Russian icons were painted in Novgorod, in North-Eastern Russia.
  • Archibald
    Archibald 9 November 2013 10: 16 New
    -6
    What about the author with arithmetic, in his wonderful formula, to determine the percentage, defined as Russian, you need to take instead of 142856536 - 111016896. And so, instead of 96% of Russians, he determined 96% SIMPLY DETERMINED WITH YOUR NATIONAL IDENTIFICATION. Yes, and typical looks are given only for the neighboring northern regions. Give residents, for example, the Volgograd, or Chelyabinsk region. With such errors, I think, and the rest of the article is worthless.
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 9 November 2013 12: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: Archibald
      With such errors, I think, and the rest of the article is worthless.

      A.S. Pushkin would answer you:
      "Shut up, godfather: you, like me, are sinful,
      And you will break every word;
      In a stranger - - - - you see a straw
      And you don't see the logs in your home either. "
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 13: 25 New
        +4
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        A.S. Pushkin would answer you:

        Or maybe A. Barkov? laughing
      2. Archibald
        Archibald 9 November 2013 14: 31 New
        0
        As you do not like, when facts are held against, here you also remember Nekrasov and Yesenin. All the same, remember arithmetic, and carefully analyze the author's calculations.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 14: 52 New
          +5
          Quote: Archibald
          As you do not like, when facts are held against, here you also remember Nekrasov and Yesenin

          Do not mention the name of Nekrasov, the Professor is allergic to this poet. What if a stroke? wassat
        2. kartalovkolya
          kartalovkolya 10 November 2013 12: 35 New
          0
          archibald: And where did you take the facts ... sweetheartedly in the liberal media?
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 9 November 2013 10: 24 New
    +6
    From the book of the President of the United States: “For two and a half centuries, the Mongol-Tatar yoke in Russia Russians have practically disappeared. The Mongols diluted Russian blood, thereby changing the original psychology of Russian people. The Mongols brought aggressiveness, cunning, cunning, greed, laziness into it. ” (Richard Nixon. The Real War, "The Real War", 1978).
    So, in passing, the leader of a huge state, therefore, a certain authority in many areas, gave a destructive characteristic immediately to not only the Russian people, but also two other nations.

    To whom, to whom, and arrogant Saxons should be kept silent in a rag.
    The British Isles inhabited by the Picts and Scottes were conquered successively by the Celts, Romans, Angles, Utahs, Saxons, Danes and Norwegians, Franco-Normans.
    Most of the minor British lords are Jews. Benjamin D, Israel Earl of Beaconsfield, Queen Victoria's Prime Minister is not the first and not the only Jewish lord. Moneylenders for debts took from the Lords their land holdings and all the titles inherent in their owners. But the arrogant Saxons from them inherited greed, meanness, deceit, cruelty and treachery.
    The so-called people of England is such a variegated scumbag that no geneticist can figure it out, and there’s nothing to say about their ideological heirs of impudent Yankees.
    Scrape the Yankees, the same Nixon, and you will find Obama, Mexican, Indian, Jew or Chinese.
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 9 November 2013 14: 15 New
      +1
      No need to offend
      Quote: Corsair5912
      Mexican, Indian, Jew or Chinese.

      Quote: Corsair5912
      greed, meanness, deceit, cruelty and treachery.
      Americans have their own lol
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  • avt
    avt 9 November 2013 10: 32 New
    +6
    Why comment on this? The article is correct, the accents are set correctly. From the very beginning of the introduction, the Russian understands "it was clear what they decided to do, well, and how they snapped at the Dulles plan" - well, exactly the continuation of Hitler's plans. Another thing is amusing - they shit for so long that suddenly they were amazed where the nationalists came from, and even scared.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 11: 48 New
      +7
      Quote: avt
      Another thing amuses me - they spoiled for so long that they suddenly wondered where the nationalists came from, and even got scared.

      The cry "Down with the Russian keep the muzzle!" affected by a time bomb.
      1. avt
        avt 9 November 2013 13: 38 New
        +6
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        The cry "Down with the Russian keep the muzzle!" affected by a time bomb.

        Yeah, for some reason, they didn’t even think that they would get a return, moreover, slowly, but surely and inexorably, like the movement of an asphalt roller. And then they were suddenly amazed, they immediately began to look white and fluffy, but there was no desire to stop, especially with regard to ourselves , well, the moaning about the swastika began, etc. But again, no one wants to remember how they equated the USSR with Nazi Germany and actually brought up these individuals themselves. They caught the pancake of the messiah intellectual, began to blow into the water, due to lack of intelligence, and still spit on the history of their own country.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 14: 00 New
          +5
          Quote: avt
          Intellectual messiah damn it, they began to blow into the water, due to lack of intelligence, and still spit on the history of their own country.

          The sadness is continuous. And the process is such that it cannot be changed.
          1. avt
            avt 9 November 2013 16: 26 New
            +4
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            The sadness is continuous. And the process is such that it cannot be changed.

            request Well, there is no real elite who would not be afraid of the people, as now, seeing in him only an obstacle to his cheerful life, and not the basis and support in achieving a clear and understandable goal, which the elite again does not have. For the elite's ability to eat in three throats cannot be a goal for the people. Hence, from this fear of their own people, this whole noble-monarchist renaissance, I really want to justify the "God-chosen" of my own cheerful life for myself and the people. Well, here even the Orthodox priests, with all their efforts, are not assistants, here they are Lutheran Pastors are needed, some Calvinism. No wonder Konchalovsky - the brother of our main singer of Tsarism Mikhalkov, broadcast that Russia lacks "hereditary Protestantism." He grabbed some money - so it was God dancing on him, prostrate slaves before the manifestation of God in the face of an oligarch. And people feel all the falsehood, even if sometimes they do not fully understand the intricacies of the verbiage, but deceived by the 90s, they clearly feel for the most part.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 16: 38 New
              +4
              Quote: avt
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              The sadness is continuous. And the process is such that it cannot be changed.
              Well, there is no real elite who would not be afraid of the people, as it is now, seeing in it only the hindrance of their merry life, and not the basis and support in achieving a clear and understandable goal, which the elite again does not have. For the elite’s opportunity to eat three throats cannot be a goal for the people

              So it turns out that this is like a long illness that cannot be cured in one session of some kind of therapy there. A scalpel is a sharp thing, and the hand holding it does not inspire confidence. The way out is traditional medicine: herbs (medicinal, of course), conspiracies (in terms of promoting the national idea) and, of course, time. And time, as you know, is the most expensive product.
  • stayer
    stayer 9 November 2013 10: 32 New
    +6
    The goal of all these theorists is one and the same - to impress readers and listeners that "... the Russian people are some kind of mixture, garbage."


    What kind of ur odes do they write? If we are talking about a distant history, then let them look into their genes. Murderers, slave traders, losers, robbers and adventurers. These are settlers from the old world - the foundation of the American nation. Genes are passed down from generation to generation. Everything remains at the same level. And indigenous peoples (with a normal gene pool) are driven into the reservation. Duck who's the trash?
  • ism_ek
    ism_ek 9 November 2013 10: 33 New
    +2
    Quote: author
    To date, the genetics of several countries have come to the same conclusion: the “genetic portrait” of modern Russian people is identical to the people who lived on the Russian plain more than four thousand years ago.

    The Russian plain is a very large territory. It includes the entire European part of the former USSR, part of Poland, Finland, Bulgaria and Romania.
    Who lived there four thousand years ago - only God knows. In addition to the Slavs, Ugro-Finns lived there (Mordovians, Chuvashs, etc.), Polovtsy, Alans, Khazars, Hungarians, etc.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 9 November 2013 10: 51 New
      +9
      Quote: ism_ek
      The Russian plain is a very large territory. It includes the entire European part of the former USSR, part of Poland, Finland, Bulgaria and Romania.
      Who lived there four thousand years ago - only God knows. In addition to the Slavs, Ugro-Finns lived there (Mordovians, Chuvashs, etc.), Polovtsy, Alans, Khazars, Hungarians, etc.

      In addition to God, this is known to archaeologists.
      Cimmerians, Scythians, Alans, Roxolans, Sarmatians, came to the Russian Plain no earlier than the 5-6 centuries BC. They settled only in the south of the plains in the steppe zone, they did not settle on the Russian forest-steppe and forest lands, the insolence and strength were not enough for the Russians to squeeze.
      The Huns and Goths came to the Russian Plain in the 2-4 century AD, but did not stay long. As they came, they left the Roman Empire to the west to smash, it was safer, easier and more fun than contacting the Russians.
      Ugro-Finns, Mordovians, Chuvashs, Hungarians, etc. came to the Russian Plain no earlier than the 5 century A.D., settled in uninhabited and sparsely populated territories.
      Khazars, Pechenegs, Bulgars (Tatars), etc. came to the Russian plain no earlier than the 7 century A.D. The Polovtsians came in the 10 century A.D. to quickly disappear.
      The legendary Mongol-Tatars, the horror story of German historians and the favorites of the liberals, burned dozens of Russian cities in the southern and south-western regions in one raid and disappeared without leaving a trace, like a bigfoot. Pisaki composed mountains of waste paper about the life, laws and customs of the fierce yoke of the installers, and less material traces survived than from dinosaurs and pharaohs. In museums there is not only not a single skeleton, but even the skulls of mysterious Mongol-Tatars. Maybe they finally aliens, on mechanical fire horses climbed into the city walls and fired rockets.
      1. avt
        avt 9 November 2013 11: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: Corsair5912
        In museums there is not only not a single skeleton, but even the skulls of mysterious Mongol-Tatars. Maybe they finally aliens, on mechanical fire horses climbed into the city walls and fired rockets.

        Quite right, if we discard the literary work and pretense of kinship with Genghis of the newly created former Soviet, then the Hazaras in Afghanistan will remain the bottom line - their direct descendants from the real ones, and the mention in the annals of some strong bodies, stocky and short-legged with a shaven forehead and pais fighters. Well, whatever one may say, taking into account the Old Testament religion, these are long-known and especially in Russia Khazars.
      2. ism_ek
        ism_ek 10 November 2013 15: 11 New
        0
        Here is a map of the archaeological site
        Quote: Corsair5912
        Ugro-Finns, Mordovians, Chuvashs, Hungarians, etc. came to the Russian Plain no earlier than the 5 century A.D., settled in uninhabited and sparsely populated territories.

        those. Until the 5th century AD, no one lived in the territory north of Moscow?
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 9 November 2013 15: 20 New
      -2
      Quote: ism_ek
      In addition to the Slavs, Ugro-Finns lived there (Mordovians, Chuvashs, etc.), Polovtsy, Alans, Khazars, Hungarians, etc.

      The Slavs lived there, and the ones you listed came later.
  • stayer
    stayer 9 November 2013 10: 48 New
    +3
    As geneticists say, individuals living in the same territory (without influence from outside) sooner or later become brothers-sisters. However, mixing of related blood leads to species degradation and genetic diseases. Yes, the territory of Russia is multinational, and mixing "foreign" genes with the native blood is a blessing. That is why, looking at Russian people, one can observe correctly built, beautiful, healthy bodies and faces.
  • bolonenkov
    bolonenkov 9 November 2013 10: 49 New
    -8
    The article looks like another attempt, just the same street liberals, among the common people - LIBERASTS, to pull "one rubber product" onto the globe!
    Over the 20 years of domination of the “liberals”, the demographic losses of the Russian people amounted to 20 – 21 million. Of them:
    - Adult SUPERDECTS 9,5-10 million;
    - Unborn children of 10,5-11 million.
    There are no grounds for the Russian losses in 2010-x.


    a) It is very strange that the author limits his study to a comparison of 89 and 2010, and not 2013.
    This was done so that the gap in numbers was higher, as the population was reduced from 1993 to 2010 (-6,5 million), and EXACTLY in 2010 the trend is broken, and the population increased by 1,4 million in three years. In addition, the birth rate is growing and falling mortality, in 2012 for the first time since 1993 the natural population decline stopped, and since the beginning of 2013, in many regions there has been a natural increase

    b) But far from migrants or exclusively Caucasians give birth.
    The maximum population growth is recorded in Tatarstan, Khabarovsk Territory, Samara, Ulyanovsk and Novosibirsk Regions, St. Petersburg - just many of the regions that the author calls endangered in Soviet times.
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/42769/
    And in Moscow, the most popular names of boys in 2012 are Artyom, Alexander, Maxim, Ivan and Mikhail. Girls - Sophia, Maria, Anastasia, Daria and Anna. Moreover, the list of the 50 most popular names of boys of non-Russian names is not at all. The first non-Russian name in the ranking of girls - Amina - is in 38th place.
    http://zags.mos.ru/stat/imena/imena_malchikov.php
    http://zags.mos.ru/stat/imena/imena_devochek.php

    c) Moreover, the percentage of Russians in the national composition is growing - in 2002 it was 79,83%, and in 2010 81% of the population

    How then, from the “liberals”, orders are received by the law enforcement agencies of Russia to search for and imprison “Russian extremists”.
    The “liberals” send letters to the State Duma demanding to prohibit the use of the concept “Russians” in laws and in the media.


    d) The author does not name the names of the liberals, and is silent about the swastika in stadiums and during the "Russian marches", these are precisely the "Russian extremists", just like the "Caucasian extremists", which harms the overall image of our Motherland , and Russian in particular.

    And last, if you re-read the conclusions, the author’s paranoia is clearly traced, very similar to the common myth about the intentional destruction of the Russian people and their replacement by migrants, which actually refutes the figures stated above.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 9 November 2013 11: 55 New
      +5
      Quote: bolonenkov
      b) But far from migrants or exclusively Caucasians give birth.
      The maximum population growth is recorded in Tatarstan, the Khabarovsk Territory, Samara, Ulyanovsk and Novosibirsk Regions, St. Petersburg - just many of those regions that the author calls endangered in Soviet times.

      Hired forum trolls, the Yankees, Israelis and liberals constantly frighten us, like clinical idiots, by migrants and Caucasians, with the obvious goal of pitting people of different nationalities and creating the Russian people 's distrust of the government and uncertainty about tomorrow.
      The demography of the Russian people in Russia is easily fixable, we have at least 30 million women of reproductive age, if each, for example, in 2014 gives birth to 1 children, the Russian population will immediately increase by 30 millions.
      It is necessary to spend the stabilization fund and income from the sale of energy resources for benefits for Russian mothers and children, and not for the enrichment of American Jewish bankers and the whims of Russian Jewish oligarchs.
      Pay each woman in labor a million rubles and give an apartment and will give birth a lot.
      1. bolonenkov
        bolonenkov 9 November 2013 13: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: Corsair5912
        It is necessary to spend the stabilization fund and income from the sale of energy resources for benefits for Russian mothers and children, and not for the enrichment of American Jewish bankers and the whims of Russian Jewish oligarchs.

        + 1, but let's not forget about a bunch of other industries, starting from the construction of kindergartens and ending with the opening of new plants and enterprises
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 9 November 2013 14: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: bolonenkov
          + 1, but let's not forget about a bunch of other industries, starting from the construction of kindergartens and ending with the opening of new plants and enterprises

          High birth rates will undoubtedly stimulate economic growth in Russia and create millions of new jobs.
          1. bolonenkov
            bolonenkov 9 November 2013 15: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: Corsair5912
            High birth rates will undoubtedly stimulate economic growth in Russia and create millions of new jobs.

            Quite the contrary, the less unemployed, and the more industries, the easier it is to raise three children
            THREE CHILD IS NORMAL!
            1. Kahlan amnell
              Kahlan amnell 9 November 2013 19: 27 New
              +2
              THREE CHILD IS NORMAL!

              Actually, the norm is FOUR children.
              The first two replace parents in a series of generations, the third multiplies the line of the father, the fourth - the line of the mother.
              But even four children are the norm Minimal.
      2. Archibald
        Archibald 9 November 2013 14: 35 New
        +1
        And who are the Yankees?
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 9 November 2013 14: 40 New
          +4
          Quote: Archibald
          And who are the Yankees?

          No one knows who the Yankees are.
          There is a reliable assumption that these are descendants of the Yankees, generating pindocov, living in North America
          1. Archibald
            Archibald 9 November 2013 15: 06 New
            0
            Are there any reliable assumptions? However, here I will not be surprised at anything.
      3. Setrac
        Setrac 9 November 2013 15: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: Corsair5912
        Pay each woman in labor a million rubles and give an apartment and will give birth a lot.

        Let me draw your attention to the fact that money is a measure of labor. To give someone a million you need to produce for this million goods.
    2. SvetoRus
      SvetoRus 9 November 2013 12: 34 New
      +6
      and is silent about the swastika in stadiums and during the "Russian marches", these are exactly the same "Russian extremists"
      The swastika is one of the oldest Russian symbols, go to any museum of Russian flax and see it embroidered on the clothes of our ancestors ... it is also on the paper money of the Russian Empire ... and even in the form of a "nameplate" on the hood of Nicholas 2's car. follow your logic until the 18th year, the 20th century, only "Russian extremists" lived in Russia, while India is home to, a terrible thing, a billion "Indian extremists". So, let's not use the stamps swastika = Nazi = extremist, as they say, separate flies from cutlets ...
      1. bolonenkov
        bolonenkov 9 November 2013 13: 19 New
        -5
        Quote: SvetoRus
        The swastika is one of the oldest Russian symbols, go to any museum of Russian flax and see it embroidered on the clothes of our ancestors ...

        And actually throwing ridges, as it happened at the stadium and at the "Russian March" is also probably one of the oldest Russian symbols.

        As for the Slavic symbols and the swastika, it is necessary to have an extra chromosome so as not to see the difference between the nameplate on Nikolai’s car and Nazi symbols

        1. Archibald
          Archibald 9 November 2013 14: 40 New
          -7
          Yes, there is a difference, Nikolai has a swastika of right rotation. By the way, our Bolshevik ghouls, when they fraternized with the Nazis, once at the station, at a meeting with their kindred ghouls, missed the rotation direction of their best friends on the flag. The bros were slightly offended.
          1. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 9 November 2013 14: 47 New
            +5
            Quote: Archibald
            Yes, there is a difference, Nikolai has a swastika of right rotation. By the way, our Bolshevik ghouls, when they fraternized with the Nazis, once at the station, at a meeting with their kindred ghouls, missed the rotation direction of their best friends on the flag. The bros were slightly offended.

            The Bolsheviks never fraternized with the Nazis and were not ghouls.
            The Bolsheviks are the Russian people.
            1. Archibald
              Archibald 9 November 2013 14: 51 New
              -6
              Do not bliss ...
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 14: 54 New
                +4
                Quote: Archibald
                Do not bliss ...

                I beg you, do not start ...
                The dispute can be continued on the branch from "Day of the October Revolution of 1917" laughing
                1. Archibald
                  Archibald 9 November 2013 15: 23 New
                  +1
                  Yes, probably not worth it. There's no point.
              2. Corsair5912
                Corsair5912 9 November 2013 15: 08 New
                +2
                In Israel, there’s a lie about the Bolsheviks, it’ll give a ride there.
                1. Archibald
                  Archibald 9 November 2013 15: 30 New
                  -6
                  Yes, I have never been to Israel. I would like of course, maybe someday it will succeed. By the way, in Israel, there are much more elements of your beloved socialism than in today's Russia.
                  1. Corsair5912
                    Corsair5912 9 November 2013 18: 05 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Archibald
                    Yes, I have never been to Israel. I would like of course, maybe someday it will succeed. By the way, in Israel, there are much more elements of your beloved socialism than in today's Russia.

                    What is it that the Israelis recruited Russophobic nonsense to spread?
                    The only fundamental elements of socialism are the ban on the exploitation of man by man, payment by work, and social security of disabled people from public funds.
                    In Israel there is nothing like socialism, there is natural capitalism with a fascist soul.
            2. shasherin_pavel
              shasherin_pavel 9 November 2013 23: 54 New
              +2
              In fact, the story is well-known: before Ribentrop's arrival, it was necessary to hang out the flags of the state from which he came, that is, Germany, but no one had any idea how this flag looked, they painted it randomly and really changed the rotation of the swastika, which symbolized the sunset of the solstice ". All this shows that before the real threat of war against all of Europe in 1939, no one even took an interest in the symbolism of the Nazis, severing all relations with the coming to power of Hitler. By the way, in the book "Cars of the Red Army" there is a photo when our soldiers in Western Ukraine held a parade in German cars built for the Red Army. It was built, not captured. And the Germans also sold us licenses for the construction of 76 mm zen. guns, which became 85 mm after modernization, 37 mm zen. guns, 37 mm anti-tank guns, which became 45 mm after modernization. We also sold drawings of boats "C". The same boats were built by the Japanese, which is why the Americans sank our "ES" ku when it crossed from Vladivostok to Murmansk, they were very similar to the German and Japanese. If you read the "Political Dictionary of 1928" then with which country you do not sign an agreement, so a 40 or 50% agreement with the Nazis. Even in England, part of the parliament was occupied by the Nazis. And about Italy, Poland and Germany only have to be silent, but the Italians built us the leaders "Moscow" and "Tashkent". The French lost the war because a third of the parliament were fascists. It was after the war that fascism was branded, and in 28 they sat in the governments of absolutely all European countries.
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        2. 11111mail.ru
          11111mail.ru 9 November 2013 15: 33 New
          +3
          Quote: bolonenkov
          you need to have an extra chromosome in order not to see the difference between the nameplate on Nikolay’s car and Nazi symbols

          The nucleus of each human somatic cell contains 23 pairs of chromosomes. There is one DNA molecule for each chromosome. A DNA molecule is a long chain made up of nucleotides. Therefore, your hypothesis about an "extra" chromosome that affects vision is nonsense.
          1. bolonenkov
            bolonenkov 9 November 2013 18: 15 New
            -4
            Quote: 11111mail.ru
            Therefore, your hypothesis about an "extra" chromosome that affects vision is nonsense.

            An extra chromosome affects the ability to adequately perceive reality.
            And about vision - alas, your gag)))
        3. Archibald
          Archibald 9 November 2013 15: 41 New
          0
          By the way, what kind of car model? If this is not "Russo Balt", then this is perhaps the brand emblem of some foreign car?
          1. AlNikolaich
            AlNikolaich 9 November 2013 17: 42 New
            +1
            French-made machine. Delaunay-Belleville. The model was called "Tsar"
            Climb on the pics. Only two show the swastika on the radiator cap. Both photos of Nikolai’s car. In other photographs there is no swastika, including on royal machines. This swastika has nothing to do with the company logo ... request
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 9 November 2013 15: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: SvetoRus
        The swastika is one of the oldest Russian symbols, go to any museum of Russian flax and see it embroidered on the clothes of our ancestors ... it is also on the paper money of the Russian Empire ... and even in the form of a "badge" on the hood of the car of Nicholas 2.

        The West discriminates our symbols and ideas, such as swastika, nationalism, Christianity (the discrediting of this idea is just beginning), honesty, patriotism, etc.
        1. Archibald
          Archibald 9 November 2013 15: 48 New
          -1
          By the way, the swastika on the car of the emperor is a whim of the empress Alexandra Fedorovna, who was slightly damaged by the mind on mystical grounds. So, the old Russian traditions have absolutely nothing to do with it.
      3. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 9 November 2013 18: 28 New
        +3
        Quote: SvetoRus
        The swastika is one of the oldest Russian symbols, go to any museum of Russian flax and see it embroidered on the clothes of our ancestors ...

        True, Hitler stole the Slavic symbol. The clothes of our ancestors are not embroidered with a black fascist emblem, but with slightly different swastikas, not symbols of Darkness and Evil, but symbols of the Sun, Light, Gods, etc.
        1. bolonenkov
          bolonenkov 9 November 2013 19: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Corsair5912
          True, Hitler stole the Slavic symbol


          This is not a reason to shake Hitler’s flags in stadiums and marches
          1. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 9 November 2013 21: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: bolonenkov
            This is not a reason to shake Hitler’s flags in stadiums and marches

            And who said that you can shake the Slavic swastika, beaten by the Nazis, in stadiums and marches?
            Especially if it is shaken by fans of the possessed Fuhrer.
            It is high time for this to put the years on 3 in the zone, as for the propaganda of fascism.
      4. Kahlan amnell
        Kahlan amnell 9 November 2013 19: 41 New
        +3
        I agree. One of the oldest symbols, meaning Light and Good, was desecrated by the Nazis, but this is not the basis for contempt, hatred and prohibition of the symbol itself. The symbol is not guilty of the crimes of the Nazis.
        I clarify - only the symbol of the swastika itself, and not the flag of Nazi Germany.
        Under the banner of the Cross, many crimes have also been committed, but the Cross is not despised and does not hate, and millions of Christians around the world venerate it.
      5. Danilka
        Danilka 10 November 2013 21: 00 New
        +1
        Correctly! the swastika is not only Slavic, but also very many Indo-Iranian peoples that existed long before the Slavs appeared in Europe.
        Symbol means sun movement prosperity, fertility wink .MEN infuriates that the world has an opinion that it is a symbol of Nazism. And everyone is hammered by the media. Here you ...! am
  • lotar
    lotar 9 November 2013 10: 52 New
    +7
    The article is interesting for its arguments, and one cannot ignore them. And the fact that the majority of people in power are adherents of the policy that led to a decline in demographic growth is also a fact. Instead of throwing money into black holes like Skolkovo, Rusnano and others such projects, this money could be spent on the revival of the nation. And now, with their taxes, they seek to crush our people so that they have no choice but to take out loan obligations, which are inherently slave bondage. Many salaries are such that for buying apartments takes from several years to dozens of their direct accumulation, which in reality turns into the fact that the same young families initially fall into "slave" dependence on their creditors.
    1. bolonenkov
      bolonenkov 9 November 2013 11: 24 New
      -6
      Quote: lotar
      And the fact that most people in power are adherents of a policy that led to a decline in demographic growth is also a fact

      The population was declining from 1993 to 2010 (-6,5 million), and in 2010 the trend was broken, and the population increased by 1,4 million. In addition, the birth rate is growing and mortality is falling, in 2012 the natural population decline stopped for the first time since 1993, and from the beginning 2013 in many regions there is a natural increase
      And not migrants or exclusively Caucasians give birth.
      The maximum population growth is recorded in Tatarstan, the Khabarovsk Territory, Samara, Ulyanovsk and Novosibirsk Regions, and St. Petersburg.
      http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/42769/
      And in Moscow, the most popular names of boys in 2012 are Artyom, Alexander, Maxim, Ivan and Mikhail. Girls - Sophia, Maria, Anastasia, Daria and Anna. Moreover, the list of the 50 most popular names of boys of non-Russian names is not at all. The first non-Russian name in the ranking of girls - Amina - is in 38th place.
      http://zags.mos.ru/stat/imena/imena_malchikov.php
      http://zags.mos.ru/stat/imena/imena_devochek.php
    2. ele1285
      ele1285 9 November 2013 13: 56 New
      +3
      Both Skolkovo and Rusnano are needed, on one condition, the country needs the OWNER, and not temporary liberalists
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  • igordok
    igordok 9 November 2013 11: 28 New
    +9
    By the year 1980, the Pskov, Tver, Tula, Ryazan, Tambov, and Kursk regions had already died out.

    I don't know about other regions, but the Pskov region has been "dying out" since the 18th century. Everything is dying out, dying out, only it somehow does not work out. Regardless of any statistics. This is how RUSSIA is.
    A resident of the north of the Pskov region may not understand the speech of a resident of the south of the region, especially if they speak fluently. And in this "difference" of Russians, their strength, their charm. The real Russian language is in the provinces, with their "akany" or "okan", and not in the capitals.
    Grandfather - Belarusian (fled in the 1928 year, from the territory occupied by Poland), grandmother - Latvian (fled from the Courland province in the 1908 year, due to hunger, to Bryansk). Maternal grandfather and grandmother are Russians (Old Believers). I AM RUSSIAN.
  • JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 9 November 2013 12: 07 New
    +3
    mathematical methods DNA genealogies: the ancestor of the Russian people appeared at least 4500 years ago;

    Even the Great Migration of Nations did not affect us. It turns out that European civilization is younger than ours.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 9 November 2013 14: 55 New
      +2
      Civilization spread from East to West.
      There was already a Bronze Age and hundreds of cities on the territory of the settlement of Russian ancestors, and in Western Europe the ancestors of the Germans still lived in huts, smeared their faces with green paint and ran after their fellow tribesmen with stone axes.
      Archaeological fact.
      In the East of the Russian Plain, glaciers descended to 3-4 thousands of years earlier. Paleogeographic fact.
    2. kaktus
      kaktus 10 November 2013 20: 13 New
      +2
      Arkaim - the same age as the Egyptian pyramids good
  • Bezarius
    Bezarius 9 November 2013 12: 54 New
    +4
    That's exactly why I do not believe in the myth of the Mongol-Tatar yoke.
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 9 November 2013 13: 23 New
    +5
    At the same time, propagandists of “universal values” for hours and days mocked on TV and radio: “There were no Russian people and no. Scrape the Russian, you will find ... Whatever you want, that you will find. ”
    Do not be surprised! If you scrape these liberals who have occupied the media, you will find completely recognizable Poz..neroids, Ur..antoids of Svani..zoid and others from the w..do-mass..n gallogroup! Yes, and in the government and business structures the crowd from the tribesmen of these liberals, far from their percentage in the population of Russia! Frankly, not EVERYTHING, but MANY from this gallogroup for over a hundred years, together with their sworn friends of the Russian brazenly-sraxes, have been pursuing this policy of discrediting the Russians as a people with the ultimate coveted goal of reducing them to the level of a national minority or total annihilation!
  • Normal
    Normal 9 November 2013 13: 29 New
    +6
    Let us leave alone the question whether there are Russians. Of course have. Of course. There are no Russians only for people like Kandelaki, but she also uttered her famous phrase in .... Russian.
    I would like to draw your attention to the beginning of the article, which was "lost" over the presentation of the genetic-historical grounds for the existence of Russians.
    A quarter of a century has passed since the time when the spill of perestroika broke the utter darkness of the lack of information over those at the expense of whom the Kremlin was building communism. 25 years ago it became clear: the main tool for creating a new socio-economic structure is the demographic exploitation of the Russian people.
    Recall that demographic exploitation is the use by the rulers of a country of the potential of a people to the detriment of the demographic well-being of that very people.

    To discuss this in my opinion is much more important than the issue of genetic Russianness.
    It is precisely in the indefatigable demographic exploitation of Russians that is the reason for the Russian question in Russia.
    Since the time of Peter, the yoke of the imperial titular people rests on the Russians. We have pushed the boundaries of the Russian Empire to California and Port Arthur, and the real borders to Germany, Sweden, Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan. All these conquests needed human resources. And the Russian village regularly supplied them.
    Then there was a change in the socio-political formation and the whole world became the object of desire of the new rulers of Russia. A course was taken for the World Revolution. It was no longer possible to achieve this goal only by the forces of the Russians, and the stake was placed on internationalism. But again, at the expense of the Russian people, since there was no one to colonize the outskirts, to raise the educational and technical level there except for the Russians. It was necessary to carry out industrialization (and for its sake, collectivization) and urbanization of Russia, which in turn led to a massive exodus from the countryside to the city, universal literacy, gender equality, female emancipation and, consequently, to a drop in the birth rate. The war finished what it had begun; millions of losses of men of childbearing age have led to an increase in the role of women and feminism. The Russian woman realized that she could live without a man, despite the fact that the state strongly supported her in this endeavor. It became "right" to live for yourself. The birth rate has dropped completely.
    Now, in order to somehow stop the population decline and protect themselves from Russian discontent on the one hand and threats from abroad, on the other, the authorities have opened the doors to migrants. All! Out! The Russians have been ordered to make room in their homeland to please Eurasianism. For the sake of re-creating non-domiperia, the rulers are ready to finally "solve" the Russian question.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 14: 02 New
      +7
      Quote: Normal
      Now, in order to somehow stop the population decline and protect themselves from Russian discontent on the one hand and threats from abroad, on the other, the authorities have opened the doors to migrants. All! Out! The Russians have been ordered to make room in their homeland to please Eurasianism. For the sake of re-creating non-domiperia, the rulers are ready to finally "solve" the Russian question.

      ++++!
    2. Pinochet000
      Pinochet000 9 November 2013 14: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: Normal
      Russians aren’t just for people like Kandelaki,

      It goes around any .....
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 14: 49 New
        +5
        Quote: Pinochet000
        It goes around any .....

        This is all post-natal injuries - she thinks that place by which she gave birth to children.
      2. kaktus
        kaktus 9 November 2013 15: 42 New
        +1
        Yes ... on her, there was also ... a connoisseur. We must somehow be noted - that’s nonsense. The article quotes from Nixon - and this Madame is there too ...
        Our gene pool is OUR business smile (prYuvet genetic weapons tongue )
    3. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 9 November 2013 15: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Normal
      Now, in order to somehow stop the population decline and protect themselves from Russian discontent on the one hand and threats from abroad, on the other, the authorities have opened the doors to migrants. All! Out! The Russians have been ordered to make room in their homeland to please Eurasianism. For the sake of re-creating non-domiperia, the rulers are ready to finally "solve" the Russian question.

      An eccentric, our glavnyukov and the "elite" are not at all worried about the decline in the population and the discontent of the Russians, they all have holes over the hill, where they have already dragged supplies for a rainy day.
      And they don’t give a damn about migrants either, they didn’t open any doors for them, the doors never closed.
      And no one ordered the Russians anything, and it is not necessary to be crowded.
      1. Normal
        Normal 9 November 2013 15: 34 New
        +4
        Quote: Corsair5912
        Eccentric

        I read from an eccentric. laughing
        In your opinion, is everything all by itself?
        Of course, they have minks beyond the hill. But no one will give them there to hang out like here. And stealing like that over the hill also does not work out. So you have to pretend to be statesmen. After all, our pseudo-elite and power will have no other such cash cow as Russia, no where and no when.
        And demography is a seam.
        And the territory with minerals must be kept.
        People are needed, but with the Russians it hurts a lot of anxiety.
        With migrants it is handy to the authorities.
        And cheaper.
        1. Corsair5912
          Corsair5912 9 November 2013 17: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: Normal
          In your opinion, is everything all by itself?
          Of course, they have minks beyond the hill. But no one will give them there to hang out like here. And stealing like that over the hill also does not work out. So you have to pretend to be statesmen. After all, our pseudo-elite and power will have no other such cash cow as Russia, no where and no when.
          And demography is a seam.
          And the territory with minerals must be kept.

          Migrants travel on their own, no one brings them in or invites them. There are private recruitment agencies that make money from finding work in Russia for migrants.
          I receive weekly 5-50 job offers, including in Kazakhstan, Norway, England, the USA, Egypt, Algeria from companies that I contacted in the 80-90 years. I doubt that Nazarbayev, Obama or Cameron know about me.
          Nobody bothers our "elite" over the hill to steal or show off, except for competitors. There and their own cash cows, thieves and rolled enough.
          No one claims to the Russian territories with minerals that what has been explored and developed in the USSR is enough for 10-15 years, with few exceptions.
          And the fact that it is not explored and not mastered is located in such places that in the coming 50-100 years no one will climb there, enough pi in regions with a warm climate and without kilometer permafrost.
          The authorities are more convenient with the citizens of Russia, they pay taxes, and with the migrants it is more convenient with the oligarchs, they do not have to pay taxes or taxes for them.
          1. Normal
            Normal 9 November 2013 23: 18 New
            +2
            Quote: Corsair5912
            Migrants travel on their own, no one brings them in or invites them.

            Do you consider me an idiot? Or maybe you have never heard of such a thing as migration policy?
            What is happening in Russia in the field of migration policy is the highest degree of liberalism. In just a few years, Russia came out on top in the world in terms of the number of migrants. The United States does not count, as this is a country of immigrants, and the indigenous population lives there on reserves. But even in the USA, migration policy is much tougher than in Russia.
            Of course, migrants are not imported to Russia, but this is not required. They go themselves. It is enough to simply level the rights of the local population and migrants when hiring. All. Next is a matter of time. Not long ago, there were so many migrants. Why? Yes, there was simply a ban for non-citizens of Russia to work in trade. Then the ban was lifted. Here is a simple example of migration policy.
            Quote: Corsair5912
            Nobody bothers our "elite" over the hill either to steal or show off,

            Yah? belay Seriously? In Europe, our aligarchs and those in power with flashing lights ride on the opposite side? Do they block roads in Europe? Or do they disperse pedestrians when any of our people want to walk on foot? Or maybe ours will allow us to cut the budget over the hill and get kickbacks in the same size as in Russia?
            Quote: Corsair5912
            No one claims to Russian territories with minerals,

            Yeah, yeah ... Of course not. Till. While we ourselves are selling our resources for cut colored paper, and then we are sending the same paper to the place where it was cut and painted.
            Quote: Corsair5912
            The authorities are more convenient with the citizens of Russia, they pay taxes, and with the migrants it is more convenient with the oligarchs, they do not have to pay taxes or taxes for them.

            No comment. request
  • alone
    alone 9 November 2013 13: 49 New
    +5
    in order for the nation not to die out, it is necessary that every Russian family has at least 2-3 children. At present, there are mainly 1-2 children in the family. The economic situation does not allow people to have many children.
    and let’s not forget that alcoholism and drug addiction, which will spread among youth at an appalling pace, also plays a negative role.

    no matter who the nation is, I wish prosperity and prosperity to all the peoples of the earth. hi
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 14: 10 New
      +8
      Quote: lonely
      in order for the nation not to die out, it is necessary that every Russian family has at least 2-3 children. At present, there are mainly 1-2 children in the family. The economic situation does not allow people to have many children.

      I do not agree.
      To live for oneself, eat deliciously, frolic, not thinking about the children left at home - this is the main motivator for what they then try to shyly cover up with the phrase "I don't want to breed poverty ...".
      V. Solovyov may not be an indicator, but having 8 children in a family today is almost a feat.
      Everyone is watching on the streets, in schools, children of non-indigenous nationality who do not shine with fashionable clothes, do not have fashionable gadgets. But they, children, in the family, with an unemployed mother (the father is engaged in the transportation of 15-20 hours a day) 3-5 people.
      I do not consider myself an ideal father, but I give all the best, sometimes 99,9%, which would not be ashamed of myself, nor for my family and my children. But life argues differently ...
  • july
    july 9 November 2013 13: 53 New
    +7
    The Sinisters have changed everything, actually scrape the Tatar and you will find a Russian! The Russians were able to unite so many nations around them not rising, but just brothers. Where else are there such associations? American states with their Native American reservations? or a united Europe, where everyone is trying to cut his throat to each other? There are two pronounced types of arrangement on the planet - the Anglo-Saxon and Russian, that's why they are so furious in lies and slander that their whole story is based on this, on violence and the annihilation of those who are objectionable, that's why only Russians can point out to them impartially it, but we don’t kick them with it, but it’s even worse for them ... poor people, how sausages them!
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 9 November 2013 15: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: July
      poor things, how sausages them!

      And why am I never sorry for them? laughing
    2. igordok
      igordok 9 November 2013 19: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: July
      The Russians were able to unite so many peoples around themselves not rising, but just brothers.

      In contrast to the so-called "American melting pot", where it was not possible to obtain a heat-resistant and impact-resistant alloy.
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 9 November 2013 14: 17 New
    +7
    Surely I have something in the mix, the Cossacks on the frontier didn’t have to choose much. According to legend, the great-grandfather snubbed the local beauty and married her. But it’s like exotic to me, because I feel RUSSIAN.
  • serge
    serge 9 November 2013 15: 01 New
    +4
    The Russian nation has basically moved to cities. 73% of the population of Russia are citizens. In cities, the birth rate is lower than in rural areas, and it can only be raised by providing additional housing after the birth of each new child, starting with the second.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 15: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: serge
      In cities, the birth rate is lower than in rural areas, and it can only be raised by providing additional housing after the birth of each new child, starting with the second.

      Maternal capital, in principle, provides such an opportunity.
      1. corn
        corn 9 November 2013 21: 18 New
        0
        In a very, very limited number of cities
        Wed offer price on January 29 this year (rub / sq.m)
        Moscow 200707
        St. Petersburg 99720
        Mos. area 83327
        Khabarovsk 74474
        Rostov-on-Don 60639
        Vladimir 52597
        Ivanovo 41114
        Taken selectively from the site kvaddov.ru, there are fewer.
  • Shaman 21101973
    Shaman 21101973 9 November 2013 15: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: Corsair5912
    Quote: Peaceful military
    Hatred by the liberals, I.V. Stalin at a banquet in honor of Victory proclaimed a toast to the Russian people, as the main one, on whom all the hardships of the war fell, as the main winner.

    Under the "hated dictator" Stalin, children were the greatest value and hope of the state, the population of the USSR was steadily increasing. According to the Central Statistical Administration of the USSR (1964):
    1927 year - 147 million people
    1941 year - 197.3 million people
    1946 year - 168.7 million people
    1953 year - 188 million people.

    It must be added that during the Second World War more than 20mln died. Russian.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 9 November 2013 18: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: Shaman 21101973
      It must be added that during the Second World War more than 20mln died. Russian.

      Nobody knows the exact numbers of the dead, since the exact population in 1941 in western Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic states is unknown, where there were significant civilian casualties from military operations and atrocities by German, OUN and Baltic punishers
      Figures in 20, 26, 27 million people estimated.
  • Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 9 November 2013 15: 49 New
    +2
    Thanks to the author for the article! Explained clearly and reasonably what the Russians inwardly sensed. There is, however, one error in the calculations:
    in 1926, 4 people out of 100 thousand inhabitants;
    - in 1989 year - 10 people;
    - in the 2010 year - 25 people.

    I counted, not 25, but 5070 per 100. But then again the correct numbers on the same topic:
    Let us estimate the probability of awareness of belonging to your Russian people for 2010 of the year = (142 856 536 - 5 629 429) / 142 856 536 = 96%.

    So the error was random and did not lead to incorrect conclusions.
    True 4% of people entangled in their nationality is also a lot. Liberasts have powdered their brains. There are such poor fellows, even in the moderators of our site. One of them issued a warning to me for just one phrase: I am PURE-BLOOD RUSAK!
  • avg
    avg 9 November 2013 16: 55 New
    +3
    From the book of the President of the United States: “For two and a half centuries, the Mongol-Tatar yoke in Russia Russians have practically disappeared.

    Those. There are American people, but no Russian. Great stupidity and hard to come up with.
    Now even the most stupid goat understands that the Russians were, are, and will be. But there is no need to rush to the other extreme and contrast Russians with other peoples of Russia. For many centuries we have divided all our sorrows and joys into everyone, and they, like ours, have no other land. Yes, now there are difficulties with the Caucasus, with aggressive Islam (and these geeks are primarily killing their fellow countrymen), and here it is necessary to establish tough order, but to restore, as always together, and not push away from your own, in many ways not even neighbors, but relatives.
  • Boris63
    Boris63 9 November 2013 19: 01 New
    +1
    For centuries, Russians have been the titular nation of our state (whatever it is called). But all the citizens of our state are called RUSSIANS, so let's act in such a way that the role of the nationalities inhabiting Russia (including the TITLE) is not destroyed. And to increase the population growth of the Russian nation - a question for the young. I did not make up, but two children incl. will not decrease
  • Basileus
    Basileus 9 November 2013 19: 34 New
    0
    It's funny We have a nationalistic site here, that's why I’m ready for anything) But we already got whiners who yell about RLS. Show me WHERE and HOW SPECIFICALLY YOU are oppressed? Are you forbidden to be called Russian? Are you forbidden to speak Russian? Maybe something else happens that specifically infringes on your national identity? I am waiting for the answers of every whiner, of whom there are a dime a dozen. Well and minuses, essno - we find out how many people with brainwashed, for which others think.
  • Kahlan amnell
    Kahlan amnell 9 November 2013 19: 46 New
    +2
    I’m thinking everything. Russian, can we be enough adjectives?
    Maybe it's time, it's time to become nouns again?
    And called Rus or Rus?
    1. Elizabeth
      11 November 2013 15: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Kahlan Amnell
      I’m thinking everything. Russian, can we be enough adjectives?
      Maybe it's time, it's time to become nouns again?
      And called Rus or Rus?


      This thought reveals a lot, including the "demographic exploitation of the Russian people," which is discussed in the article under discussion. All I try to remember is some people called an adjective. I don’t find it. There is no nationality "French", "Chinese", "Chechen". The phrase "a person of Caucasian nationality" is considered offensive. Nobody wants to be called an adjective. Only the Russians agreed that they were Russians. It is interesting that the word "rusichi" is emphasized as non-existent. I can't understand how, when, why this happened. why exactly the Russian people agreed to be an adjective to achieve the development and prosperity of other peoples. I remember a pelican feeding his children with his body. Maybe the Russian is a pelican? Maybe this is the special purpose of the Russian people? The trouble is that it is not good for the fosterlings. So there is no need to console yourself with a great mission. There is no need to wait for changes in the name of the nationality from the outside. Perhaps each descendant of the Rus or Rus should decide for himself where he is from, who he is - a noun or an adjective. And in general, what question does the word "Russian" answer - "who?" or "what?" So far, it is only obvious that the name of the people "Russian" answers the question "what". I really want our people to become not someone, but someone. This thought settled in my head, even when I received my first passport in the Uzbek SSR. The column "nationality" on the Uzbek page read "Urus". I liked very much the question: "who are you?" to answer with dignity - "Urus!" Then they still considered us someone. It depends on us what will happen next.
  • MaKeNa
    MaKeNa 9 November 2013 19: 56 New
    +1
    The biggest misfortune of the Russian people is their modesty and patience! Will accomplish a feat. He will stop a galloping horse, etc., etc., but screaming that he will not be a hero! And patience is generally a separate article, bordering on self-destruction. And now we are losing in the main thing in ideology, or rather in its complete absence. Tell the youth now: who to take an example from? What is more important in life? what is the greatness of your homeland? And what the POWER will answer, watch "House-2" and listen to the mat in the "Comedy-Club"? WHAT????? Empty brothers, empty!
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 9 November 2013 23: 03 New
      +4
      The biggest misfortune of the Russian people is their modesty and patience!

      It doesn’t matter — these are virtues! Thanks to enormous patience, we endure such hardships that few others can bear.
      As for "Dom-2" and "Comedy-Club", it seems to me that these are tools that separate wheat from chaff. Man from "man". And everyone makes his own choice of who he should be - Human or "human".
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 10 November 2013 12: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: Corsair5912
    From the book of the President of the United States: “For two and a half centuries, the Mongol-Tatar yoke in Russia Russians have practically disappeared. The Mongols diluted Russian blood, thereby changing the original psychology of Russian people. The Mongols brought aggressiveness, cunning, cunning, greed, laziness into it. ” (Richard Nixon. The Real War, "The Real War", 1978).
    So, in passing, the leader of a huge state, therefore, a certain authority in many areas, gave a destructive characteristic immediately to not only the Russian people, but also two other nations.

    To whom, to whom, and arrogant Saxons should be kept silent in a rag.
    The British Isles inhabited by the Picts and Scottes were conquered successively by the Celts, Romans, Angles, Utahs, Saxons, Danes and Norwegians, Franco-Normans.
    Most of the minor British lords are Jews. Benjamin D, Israel Earl of Beaconsfield, Queen Victoria's Prime Minister is not the first and not the only Jewish lord. Moneylenders for debts took from the Lords their land holdings and all the titles inherent in their owners. But the arrogant Saxons from them inherited greed, meanness, deceit, cruelty and treachery.
    The so-called people of England is such a variegated scumbag that no geneticist can figure it out, and there’s nothing to say about their ideological heirs of impudent Yankees.
    Scrape the Yankees, the same Nixon, and you will find Obama, Mexican, Indian, Jew or Chinese.

    But how could the arrogant Saxons inherit something from the Jews, if they were simply replaced (cleaned), it would be right to say that the descendants of the Jewish usurers reign, but now with titles ...
  • George Siberia
    George Siberia 10 November 2013 17: 33 New
    +3
    my mother’s facial features strongly coincide with the photo-reconstruction of a typical face of the Vologda-Vyatka zone:
    and indeed: my mother’s ancestors - from the Vologda province ..
    1. kaktus
      kaktus 10 November 2013 20: 18 New
      +2
      Beautiful woman with a sunny smile!
  • Chuvash
    Chuvash 10 November 2013 19: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: MaKeNa
    The biggest misfortune of the Russian people is their modesty and patience!

    then it would not be Russian at all winked
    and, in general, it cannot be said that this is a bad trait in people. as they say: patience and labor will grind everything! wink
  • Russkiu
    Russkiu 23 February 2014 22: 14 New
    0
    According to the Thought of God and the Plan of Being,
    Became the Center of Peace Russian Man!
    God gave us the thought of the Plans -
    Hold all the Universe forever!

    Keep from darkness and fierce anger
    From lies and wars, from human destruction.
    In everything Love is made, but tests ...
    Always create an unbridled Dream!

    Given to all Russian thoughts burn
    Creating Love, holding the eternity of the World!
    But we can erase in our thoughts
    From the Genesis Plans of a mad satyr.
  • Venier
    Venier 24 July 2014 05: 16 New
    0
    An article in the heart!good