"Vatican erodes Christian values"
“The last thing that remained in the Catholic doctrine is ethics. There was a rigid notion of sin, which made it impossible to recognize the modern tolerant value system. Now revolutionary steps have been taken to blur this, ”Olga Chetverikova, a Vatican politician, described the VIEW newspaper to a survey about attitudes towards the family that the Roman curia conducts among bishops and congregations.After the election this spring of Cardinal Bergolio as the new head of the Roman Catholic Church, most observers expected changes in the management of the Roman Curia. While the reforms of Pope Francis are still being developed, but as it turned out recently, except for administrative reforms, the Vatican began preparations for even more fundamental changes. On Tuesday, representatives of the pontiff confirmed that a questionnaire from 39 points was sent to all dioceses, designed to clarify the attitude of Catholics around the world to the most important family problems. It is precisely because of the reluctance to yield to the requirements of a tolerant society and to change the position of the Roman church on these issues that the Vatican is most criticized in the West.
And although now in the curia they say that the survey is being held on the eve of the extraordinary synod of the Roman church on the family theme scheduled for October 2014, and that the church “has no desire to reopen the discussion on the Catholic doctrine” and will try to find a solution to difficult situations within existing doctrine, the list of questions itself shows that we can talk about fundamental changes that do not fit into the Catholic worldview.
Bishops and laity will have to speak about their attitude to divorce and abortion, to same-sex marriages and to the possibility of adoption by such couples of children, to "the place of traditional marriage as a union between a man and a woman in modern society", which methods of birth control are the most effective. From what is required by a tolerant public, the survey does not include perhaps euthanasia and the ordination of women, but perhaps this is due to the fact that it is devoted to the topic of the family (as understood by modern Western society). About why this survey and what reform Pope Francis is preparing, the newspaper VIEW talked with a Vatican politician, assistant professor stories and politicians in Europe and America MGIMO, candidate of historical sciences Olga Chetverikova, author of the book "Treason in the Vatican, or the Conspiracy of Popes against Christianity."
VIEW: Olga Nikolaevna, what is indicative of this survey?
Olga Chetverikova: The teaching of the church is determined by Christ, and the task of the leadership of the church is to keep it clean. And if society falls into sin, then the church must declare it and stop it. And with this poll they are insured in their decisions, justified by the demands of the people themselves. "Our task is to respond to the spirit of the times, and the survey shows what people want." Earlier local polls have already shown that the majority of Catholics favor abortion and divorce. In the same France, Catholics say that they are not against homosexual marriages, but against touching their sacred civil code, and instead of men and women they wrote “spouse number one” and “spouse number two”. And the condemnation of homosexuality, no one can afford.
VIEW: Because it is dangerous - they will plant. There were also cases when priests who preached against homosexuality, who declared him a sin, were imprisoned.
O. CH.: This is an attempt on the sacred and inviolable right to tolerance. And this principle is already eating away from the inside by the Catholic Church, it forms their consciousness. After all, tolerance, as it is interpreted in Europe, is the absence of any absolute truth, the absence of dogma. And the whole Christian faith is based on dogma. The principle of tolerance is possible only in the conditions of the death of Christianity.
VIEW: And the Vatican itself contributes to this?
O. CH .: Purely Jesuit, in a latent form, there is a broad, imperceptible revision of the foundations of the moral teaching of the Catholic Church. If in dogma they carried out an audit in the last 50 years - after the Second Vatican Council, then there were essential provisions in the moral postulates that the Catholic Church would never have refused under the former Pope Benedict XVI. Therefore he denied. His time is over - a deep ideological and moral revolution has begun. It has long been prepared, but now everything comes out - that is what revolutionism is about. The revolution is not in the sense of content, but in the sense of methods. Here is the same as with conspiracy theory: it no longer exists, because the conspiracy came out. Its authors hid until they had enough influence, and now they are starting to go outside.
Hence, all these frankly terrifying things sometimes say: how is it that where did the problem of Sodom sin come from, it never sounded. She always was, but she was inside, and now the time has come, and we are frankly told: that's it, we are setting up our anti-church in Sodom. And the one who does not want to obey her, has no right to exist. Hence the fight against homophobia, and the upcoming laws on the prosecution of the so-called. homophobes.
VIEW: The unprecedented abdication of Benedict and the arrival of a new pontiff were needed precisely for the revolution?
O. CH.: Pope Francis is a member of the Jesuit Order. And the mission of the order is to adapt Catholic theology to the realities of life. Initially, in the XVI century, the order was created in order to preserve and strengthen the power of the papacy. In the conditions of total changes that occurred then in the consciousness of European society, this could be done only by adapting, retaining the Catholic dogma and theology only externally. The mission of the Jesuits was to provide control over the European elites by adapting the Catholic worldview to the needs of these elites.
Therefore, the most important feature of the Jesuits was, is and will be their adaptive morality, which allowed them, interpreting in the proper course of the holy fathers, one way or another to accept and agree with any culture, religion and value system. The Jesuits also stood behind the changes in the theological doctrine of the Roman Church - at the First Vatican Council in 1871, they substantiated the dogma of papal infallibility, and at the Second Vatican Council they opened to the world, they came to ecumenism, they recognized that the truth is in all religions, they recognized the Jews as the chosen people and made a radical revolution, in fact, moving to the position of Judeo-Christianity.
VIEW: The Second Vatican Council was supposed to give the Roman Church new powers ... # {religion}
O. CH.: But after the council a crisis began - not the church as an institution, but the Christian worldview. Secularization, falling away from the church intensified - they thought that when they opened up to the world, everything would run towards them, but it turned out that since there is truth in any religion, generally everywhere, then why is Christianity necessary. Then the most serious erosion of European morality began. And since such institutions as UNESCO, the Council of Europe based on the principles of humanism, which ultimately led to the affirmation of human rights, are the key link in determining the value system for a Western person, tolerance as a religious dogma was approved. And when everything is determined on the basis of the principle of tolerance, which is incompatible with the divine absolute, and the whole system of values of a Western person is created on this principle, then the Christian worldview does not fit into this in any way.
As a result, the Catholic Church was in a critical situation in terms of the conservation of his flock. It is the most adapted and integrated into the political, economic and financial system, but not moral. And the Vatican criticized solely for that until he Benedict XVI spoke out against such sins as abortion, sodomy ...
VIEW: At the same time, Pope Benedict XVI was not opposed to globalization ...
O. CH.: Although Benedict was very well incorporated into the system of global governance and justified the need for world religion and world government, his attitude to the value system did not allow him to remain at the head of the Catholic Church. Indeed, in recent years, globalizers have taken a course towards the total realization of the principle of tolerance, that is, to remove the still remaining norms. Sodom marriage is still flowers, then comes the approval of the gender understanding of a person, that is, asexual being, experiments in medicine with artificial insemination, when a child is born from three parents. So it was necessary to bring the Catholic principles into conformity with all this - and the pope made a representative of the order, who specializes in adaptation.
VIEW: At the same time, when Francis was elected, they said a lot about the fact that he was almost conservative, that he had traditional views on marriage and family ...
O. CH.: Now the emphasis is on the fact that this pope is a representative of a poor church, a democratic pope who went to the people. Like our Gorbachev. And if the mission of Gorbachev was to destroy the party, then the mission of Bergollo, under the guise of reform, would actually abolish Christianity as such. Not as a church institute - it will just be preserved, because it is needed as an ideological institution, justifying the need for a world government, and as one of the leading centers for creating a unified world religion with a key figure of the pope in charge, namely, as a church, as a community of believers in Christ.
The system of values and dogmas in the Roman Church has long been blurred, including the doctrine of the church and salvation. The last thing that remains is ethics. There was a rigid notion of sin, which nevertheless made it impossible to recognize the modern tolerant value system. Now we need to blur this - and the revolutionary steps have already been taken. A few days before the abdication of Benedict, the head of the papal council for family affairs, Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia, said that the Vatican supported French Catholics opposing homosexual marriages, but it must be admitted that there are different forms of family, and we must categorically oppose the prosecution and discrimination of these forms. What is this about? After all, the archbishop spoke not about political or legal discrimination, but about moral, that is, he said that these “marriages” should not be condemned. And the preparation for this was still in 2008 year - then the Vatican supported the UN adopted a document on combating the persecution of homosexuals and their right to family, stipulating, however, that this does not fit into international law and something needs to be done with it, so it remains incomprehensible what was meant: the need to change the right or call to call homosexuals in a different way.
VIEW: After the abdication of Benedict, it was reported that he was handed a report on the work of the "blue" lobby in the Vatican.
O. CH.: When it became known about the report to Pope Benedict, he was given the same way — so, compromising on homosexuals was collected, and dad does nothing, you need to get him to react. Meanwhile, as it became known later, the report itself was the work of the homosexual lobby, which thus showed the Pope that they had everything under control and put him before a choice: to recognize their power or leave. And this summer, speaking at a conference, the new Pope Francis said that the gay lobby was working in the curia. But he did not condemn him, did not take a clear position, but actually switched to their language, recognized them and made it clear that nothing would happen: “Who am I to condemn homosexuals?”
VIEW: One of the cardinals said about the survey that the Vatican has no intention to open a discussion on doctrinal issues ...
O. CH.: These are purely Jesuit methods. They pronounce words that can be interpreted very broadly, and when necessary, they turn one way or another with their own meaning. They use such ambiguous formulations, the meaning and meaning of which is not understood. But what they have already begun to do clearly shows that dad needs to do a few things now. First, to reform the management of the church. What is meant by this?
In the context of globalization, the main purpose of what is happening now in world politics is the dismantling of the very structure of national states. And the transfer of their functions to transnational structures. The same thing happens with international law - the dismantling of national law and the formation of supranational law. The Vatican is not only a church, but also a national-state institution, and in this duality lies its strength. After all, for example, who is a Catholic bishop in France - a representative of the Vatican or a citizen of France? In modern conditions, when there is a transfer of decision-making mechanisms to the supranational level, the Vatican, as a rigid structure of the national state, is no longer needed. And the arrival of the Jesuits means that control passes directly into the hands of orders (along with Jesuits and such orders as the Maltese and Opus Dei), which, being networked structures, are very well integrated into the world elite — they are members of Masonic lodges and transnational councils and structures.
VIEW: Orders for a long time have been one of the main forms of organization of the world supranational elite.
O. CH.: Of course. Therefore, when the Jesuits only came to power in the Vatican, they immediately announced the upcoming democratization of the system of government, that is, that they would gradually dismantle the Vatican bureaucracy. For them, it is already too conservative, because this bureaucracy, however perverted it may be, is still capable of preserving traditional values. A policy has been taken to decentralize the management system, in which the level of decision-making will not be in the formal Vatican structures, but in the commission and councils. Recently, the first committee meeting of eight cardinals, which Pope Francis created, was held. What is his status? Consultative, but it is this advice from people close to the pontiff and implements the reform. There is also an increase in representation of the Jesuit Order. Thus, the decision-making center is transferred to the network level - if earlier, in order to make a decision, it was necessary to contact one of the papal councils, now everything is down to an informal level. Moreover, at the meeting of the expert committee, the fundamental restructuring of the Roman curia (analogue of the government) that was to be held next year was discussed, after which, quite possibly, there will be no rigid structures at all. Instead of the state secretary — and this is the second person in the Vatican — there will most likely be a moderator. A virtual control system is being created. So a radical restructuring is coming.
VIEW: Will the convening of a new cathedral of the Catholic Church be required to change the tenets?
O. CH.: Changes may occur without the convening of the cathedral. Now it will be an informal way. If dad admitted that homosexuality is not a sin, this is already a revolution. Now they will just turn a blind eye to the changes that will go to church without prior arrangement.
VIEW: Among the plans for management reform, the liquidation of the Vatican Bank - the Institute of Religious Affairs (IRD) is being discussed. But he was considered the operational center of the shadow financial empire of the Vatican ...
O. CH.: Yes, the bank is actually made transparent, and there they will no longer be able to launder money. But they have many other structures, so everything will go to the shadow level. The IRD also worked mainly for the Italian mafia, and now the transnational mafias are fighting with the national ones and are trying to get their hands on all of them. So the bank has fulfilled its mission, it is no longer needed, you can close it.
VIEW: Will the influence of Pope Francis on world affairs grow? Recently, the American magazine Forbes put it on the fourth place in the list of the most influential world leaders - after the heads of Russia, the USA and the PRC ...
O. CH.: They now in every way magnify the figure of Francis - he is portrayed as a peacemaker, he speaks about the events in Syria, he is recognized as the fourth most influential person in the world. The Anglo-Saxons are now playing the role of globalizers-destroyers, because the task of the organizers of the new order now is to dismantle everything as much as possible. And then the Anglo-Saxons will be written off - and a figure will come that will unite and reconcile all. After all, the antichrist will be the reconciler (from the fallen church, as our tradition says). That is why now we need to create an image of the Pope as a mediator in all this chaos, a sacred figure embodying the image of the religious leader of all mankind. Pope for all - poor and rich, Christians and Muslims, believers and sinners.
VIEW: There were unofficial reports about a possible meeting of Pope Francis with Vladimir Putin at the end of this month, when the president will visit Turin. What will be the main thing for the pontiff during this meeting?
O. CH.: The Pope will speak from the position of ideological and moral unity, as the bearer of the world and the idea of reconciliation. For the Vatican, the key task is to introduce Orthodoxy into the orbit of its influence, dilute it. Therefore, the work on establishing good relations with secular authorities is considered as one of the tools for communication with the leadership of the ROC. Now the Vatican has abandoned the theological dialogue, making joint prayers and joint actions a priority, which is much more effective.
VIEW: Why do many of us so uncritically perceive the work of Pope Francis?
O. CH.: A very active treatment is underway - an emphasis is placed on its democracy, poverty. Moreover, we do not know very well the history of relations between the Roman Church and Russia. Especially with the Jesuit Order - and yet they got their hands on an inconspicuous, ideological expansion. The task now is to smash the negative image that the Russian word “Jesuit” carries in the Russian language, the head of the Order, who came to Russia two years ago, spoke about this. The Jesuit education system is being actively introduced through scientific exchanges, through programs. The Order works a lot with student youth, primarily with promising students, who can later be used. And then the Jesuits work together with representatives of "Opus Dei". Unfortunately, we have practically tabooed the presentation of truthful information about Catholic orders, and indeed criticism of Catholicism in general. Until we openly say what the papacy and the Jesuits are, this will continue. Instead, we are raising the status of relations with the Vatican to the level of embassies.
VIEW: Perhaps our authorities want to use the game with the Vatican in building combinations in the global geopolitical layout. After all, sometimes the Vatican is considered almost a separate center of power.
O. CH.: The Vatican is not an independent player, it is built into a certain niche of the global management system and must fulfill a specific mission. If we understand the process of building a new world order as the realization of a religious idea in the first place, then it is clear that the figure, the person who wants to be brought to power and whom we call antichrist in our tradition, will manage certain methods, but his main mission will be magical management, that is, it is a question of religious faith, where another creature is put in place of the creator. Therefore, it is necessary to prepare a large part of humanity for the irrational perception of reality. To do this, it is necessary to erode the Christian consciousness, because all other religions fit perfectly into the pantheistic system. And the mission of the Vatican now is the maximum erosion of the Christian value system. And Pope Francis proceeds to the final stage of this.
VIEW: Those laws that have been passed recently in our country - in particular, on banning the propaganda of homosexuality among children - are a clear attempt to resist the onset of global dictate of tolerance.
O. CH.: Yes, but the problem is that now it is not the onset of tolerance, but its decisive attack. And defensive measures will not save us. Because they will pass by another way - the difference between propaganda and information is not spelled out in the same propaganda law, any propaganda can pass under the guise of information. Such laws will not solve anything - now we need to move to drastic measures such as restoring criminal responsibility for homosexuality and other forms of perversions.
While we struggle with sodomites, they institute gender theories and disciplines that represent men and women as gender, introduce social understanding of gender, which completely restructure consciousness, asserting that the main thing is what one feels like. There is a blur. And this happens unnoticed, forms our children. Methods of dealing with us have now changed - they are not open, hidden, imperceptible. They cannot directly tell us about their goals, because the answer can be received in the forehead, but they come from the rear. After all, we never knew how to fight with an internal enemy. We have an open worldview, and the entire Western elite has been shaped by Jesuit institutions and communities for centuries. And we can not resist. And in 10 years it will be too late - we will get a generation with a reconstructed consciousness, to which we can no longer appeal. So our main weapon - call things by their proper names.
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