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Ukraine continues to implement a contract with Ethiopia for the supply of MBT T-72

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Ukraine continues to implement a contract with Ethiopia for the supply of MBT T-72

Ukraine continues to supply the main combat forces of the Ethiopian armed forces tanks T-72. Shipment of MBT to the customer is carried out under a contract for the supply of 200 T-72 tanks, signed in June 2011 with Ukrspetsexport.


According to Janes Defense Weekly, satellite photos taken on August 24 in the port of Oktyabrsk in Ukraine featured 16 tanks and other equipment prepared for shipment. Presumably, this batch of tanks was loaded onto the transport vessel Ocean Power, which departed 7 September to the port of Djibouti.

The agreement, signed in 2011, whose value exceeds 100 million dollars, was one of the largest contracts signed by the Ukrainian special exporter over the last 15 years.

Simultaneously with Ukrspecexport, contracts were signed for maintenance and repair of the T-72 fleet of the Ethiopian armed forces (the Armed Forces of Ethiopia have 60 T-72 XBT re-exported from Yemen to 2003).

According to official information released by the State Export Control Service of Ukraine, Ukraine shipped 72 MBT T-72 to 2011 Ethiopia in 99 and 2012 tanks in 29 year. Thus, in the current year, XNUMX tanks should be shipped.

The T-72B MBTs that are shipped to Ethiopia are being upgraded to the level of T-72U1, including equipping with a new engine, guided weapon systems and dynamic protection.

Production of the T-72B version began in the 1985 year (export designation T-72C). MBT T-72B is equipped with a new engine and suspension, dynamic protection package. The MBT armament is 125-mm smoothbore gun, 7,62-mm coaxial machine gun and 12,7-mm anti-aircraft gun. A tank can fire various types of ammunition, including 9M119 guided missiles of the Svir complex (target range 100-4000 m).

Ethiopia is interested in strengthening its Armed Forces due to the tense situation in the Horn of Africa. Over the past decade, the country has been involved in several conflicts with neighboring countries. During the armed conflict with Eritrea in 1998-2000. The Ethiopian armed forces increased the number of T-55 tanks and rocket-artillery systems, including the MLRS BM-21 and the towed howitzer D-30.
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  1. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 8 November 2013 09: 38
    -3
    Ukraine will enter the EU; probably, the military-industrial complex will begin to finally falter.
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks 8 November 2013 09: 45
      11
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Ukraine will enter the EU; probably, the military-industrial complex will begin to finally falter.


      it's not even a matter of association, "canned food" tends to end, this is me to the fact that 80% of Ukraine's military exports are old Soviet weapons, then the seams will happen
      1. Dmitriy1975
        Dmitriy1975 8 November 2013 10: 09
        +1
        So they are on the drum, they live there one day, after us at least a flood.
      2. a52333
        a52333 8 November 2013 10: 42
        +1
        Ethiopians are getting ready to brush off Egypt. We need to merge something.
        1. catapractic
          catapractic 8 November 2013 11: 06
          +1
          Egypt is a long way off, but the Egyptians can easily set Islamists on Ethiopia so that tanks will come in handy, and the dam is best defended against anti-Egyptian air forces
      3. bistrov.
        bistrov. 8 November 2013 10: 45
        +9
        Quote: seller trucks
        "canned goods" tend to end

        All right, you say, Ukraine was just lucky, at the end of the 80s a huge number of tanks, other equipment and weapons from Western Europe were withdrawn to its territory. All arsenals were full. After the collapse of the USSR, all this went to Ukraine. They have been trading for twenty-two years and cannot sell at all.
        1. Aryan
          Aryan 8 November 2013 11: 11
          0
          Ethiopia is a strange country.
          Comrade was telling
          how once they stood in the port
          under the Ukrainian flag
          like in Adisabeb
          and overnight in the anchor chamber
          many illegal immigrants climbed the chain
          and I am sure that blacks
          because the watchmen did not notice their night
          and when they raised the anchor
          then they were all grinded like in a meat grinder
          how much - no one counted
          but a friend told
          that their young people were sent there to launder the chain
          and then released from service for two weeks
          and hard vodka soldered
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          2. xetai9977
            xetai9977 8 November 2013 15: 10
            +6
            Aryan, your friend just joked with you ... Ethiopia has no access to the sea. Addis Ababa all the more so that no ports and anchor chains are expected there ...
            1. Aryan
              Aryan 8 November 2013 21: 30
              +4
              sorry guys! confused with Algeria
              It happens to everyone
              Pollocta on the map
              watching myself
              be careful
        2. Kars
          Kars 8 November 2013 11: 30
          +9
          Quote: bistrov.
          Ukraine just got lucky

          It was also lucky for Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, the far east of Russia. We can still recall the arms limitation treaty in Europe, when surpluses of the USSR were transferred over the Urals)))
          Quote: bistrov.
          They have been trading for twenty-two years and cannot sell at all.

          Do you see something bad in this?
  2. Alexey Prikazchikov
    Alexey Prikazchikov 8 November 2013 09: 57
    -6
    And what is not my garnish t 64, but dumb, I'm a Nazi face, 72nd sky? laughing
    1. Evgeny_Lev
      Evgeny_Lev 8 November 2013 10: 21
      +1
      So these are Ethiopians, they can cheat totalitarian "trash" LOL

      It's like a little brother here verbs will be an excuse.
      1. Patton5
        Patton5 8 November 2013 10: 40
        +4
        We don’t need it ourselves, but they’re doing it in bulk in warehouses, especially since the Ethiopians have already bought 60 t-72 from Yemen, why should we have a diverse fleet of BTTs. You’d better ask yourself why they don’t buy the T-72 from Russia.
        It's like a little brother here verbs will be an excuse.
        tongue
        1. Dmitriy1975
          Dmitriy1975 8 November 2013 10: 50
          -1
          And why should Russia sell the t-72 when the t-62 was still in full operation? Why litter the capacities of enterprises with these contracts?
          1. Patton5
            Patton5 8 November 2013 11: 26
            +1
            And why should Russia sell the t-72 when the t-62 was still in full operation? Why litter the capacities of enterprises with these contracts?
            it's sarcasm? Or the money from the contract is also not needed, apparently it really did become better to live it became more fun !!!!
          2. Kars
            Kars 8 November 2013 11: 33
            +8
            Quote: Dmitriy1975
            when else in full operation t-62?

            Yes, well, but do they really not saw and melt them? Like the T-64? And of course, the power of tank repair plants is sacred))) And yes, Serdyukov seems to be privatized)))
            1. Dmitriy1975
              Dmitriy1975 8 November 2013 13: 11
              -9
              T-64 was killed in full in 92-95 in the training of tank troops, they cut and melt what has already been worn no where else, we do not sell rusty shit, have your armored personnel carriers for Iraq already been unloaded somewhere? And yet the moment you will not find references to contracts for T-55, 62, etc. although the technique painted with a needle still glows in the ports of the Russian Federation
              1. GastaClaus69
                GastaClaus69 8 November 2013 13: 34
                +3
                Quote: Dmitriy1975
                cut and melt what has already been worn no further

                T-80 also worn out nowhere else?
                Quote: Dmitriy1975
                your armored personnel carriers for Iraq have already unloaded somewhere?

                Call Ukrspetsexport and ask.
              2. Kars
                Kars 8 November 2013 13: 45
                +6
                Quote: Dmitriy1975
                . although the technique painted with a needle still glows in the ports of the Russian Federation

                Do not light the photo? Well, so as not to be unfounded? And by the way, are you aware that the UN needs to submit reports on arms exports?
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  3. Larus
    Larus 8 November 2013 10: 31
    -2
    It's strange why not strongholds and what else has "come up with")))
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 8 November 2013 10: 41
      +4
      What the customer wants and buys request
      OPPOSITION is expensive, and I doubt that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex will pull two contracts for OPPOSITIONS ... You can gnaw on hi
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 8 November 2013 11: 23
        -1
        Quote: Patton5
        OPPOSITION is expensive, and I doubt that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex will pull two contracts on OPPOSITIONS ...


        the Ukrainian military-industrial complex does not pull one contract, and you are here "Should we not aim at William, do you understand, our Shakespeare? ..." tank repair plant? I think it will be the same with ZIM
    2. seller trucks
      seller trucks 8 November 2013 10: 42
      -2
      Quote: Larus
      It's strange why not strongholds and what else has "come up with")))


      There is nothing strange, only in Ukraine "Oplot" is considered the "best" tank, but even Ethiopians know that this is not so, but seriously, the basis of the Ethiopian Armed Forces tanks is the old Soviet armament 246 tanks (T-55, and T-62) fuck them a cat in a bag
      1. Patton5
        Patton5 8 November 2013 11: 42
        +6
        only in Ukraine "Oplot" is considered the "best" tank
        Yes, in Ukraine it’s the best you can refute, then I read it with pleasure, but for reference the Kharkov School of Tank Engineering was the best in the USSR, with all due respect to UKBTM
        1. seller trucks
          seller trucks 8 November 2013 13: 07
          +2
          Quote: Patton5
          Yes, in Ukraine he’s the best you can refute,


          there are no such tanks in Ukraine and will not be seen in the near future - this time, secondly, this "stronghold" of yours, at best, can be considered a "concept car" because there is no talk of any mass production, thirdly, "stronghold "The best in the world is considered exclusively by the" specialists "of the small-town Ukrainian style. And in conclusion, all that Ukraine still has now is the heavy legacy of the "totalitarian" past and there is no merit of the titular Ukrainians in this.
          1. Patton5
            Patton5 8 November 2013 15: 36
            +6
            in Ukraine there are no such tanks and in the near future it will not be seen

            Do you mean in the army?
            this "stronghold" of yours can at best be considered a "concept car"

            you can take whatever you like
            "stronghold" is considered the best in the world exclusively, "specialists" of the Ukrainian small-town style

            advertising, you know, the engine of trade. I don’t think they would buy it if its manufacturers said “They made a tank, nothing special”))). “Oplot” is a deep modernization of the T-80, the most advanced Soviet tank ... You catch the idea ?
            And in conclusion, all that Ukraine still has now is the heavy legacy of the "totalitarian" past and there is no merit of the titular Ukrainians in this.

            So not only the titular Russians lived and worked in the USSR ...
      2. DMB87
        DMB87 12 November 2013 14: 58
        -1


        Bastions of Ukraine (apparently all ...)
        1. Kars
          Kars 12 November 2013 15: 06
          +2
          Quote: DMB87
          Bastions of Ukraine (apparently all ...)

          Strongholds of Thailand, and so far yes.
          1. DMB87
            DMB87 12 November 2013 16: 06
            0
            What about Ukraine claiming Oplot for tank biathlon?
          2. DMB87
            DMB87 28 January 2014 16: 38
            0
            And what about the Bastions?
            1. Akim
              Akim 28 January 2014 17: 54
              0
              Quote: DMB87
              And what about the Bastions?

              Gather. The next batch is scheduled for March.
              1. DMB87
                DMB87 28 January 2014 18: 19
                0
                Well, God forbid. And then with the armored personnel carrier somehow awkward happened.
          3. DMB87
            DMB87 28 January 2014 16: 38
            0
            And what about the Bastions?
    3. bistrov.
      bistrov. 8 November 2013 10: 48
      -3
      Quote: Larus
      Strange why not strongholds

      So they can’t provide Thailand. They promised them with three boxes, they concluded a contract, but they can’t fulfill it, the gut is thin.
  4. Yeraz
    Yeraz 8 November 2013 10: 39
    10
    Cool, they get rid of unnecessary stock, so more service will be performed. Young people are Ukrainians.
    1. Dmitriy1975
      Dmitriy1975 8 November 2013 10: 46
      -3
      There, the service is included in the price of the contract, and the service there is not sour, if you really count then 1 unit. comes out in 3 lyama ye, and this is a little och
  5. Migari
    Migari 8 November 2013 10: 47
    +7
    According to the official data of the CFE Treaty, on January 1, 2013, Ukraine had 2311 tanks, 3782 armored personnel carriers, 3101 artillery systems, 507 combat aircraft, 121 attack helicopters. That is, the reduction over 20 years was very large, 2-3 times. Moreover, these figures are purely formal - at best, half of the equipment listed in the Ukrainian military is combat capable. That is, export successes are more than 90% not the achievement of the domestic military-industrial complex, but the sale of property. The quick sale of the Soviet legacy continues even now, its main consumers are the countries of tropical Africa (such as Mali, Ethiopia, DRC). It is believed that Ukraine sells surplus and obsolete equipment. But there are somehow a lot of these "surpluses", and they are by no means the oldest in comparison with what remains in Ukraine. The most important thing is that the cancellation and sale of the Soviet legacy is in no way offset by new supplies
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 8 November 2013 11: 08
      +4
      With this I agree completely, but the question is why Russia does not sell or you have fewer tanks in your warehouses? Why did Ukraine get this contract? Here is a question from the questions ... Ukraine is bent over, it is our pain, but thanks to this contract the workers will not lose their jobs, receive wages, feed their families ... brother who squandered his father's inheritance and with tenderness so to him "I told you so" ..... All this is not good
    2. Kars
      Kars 8 November 2013 11: 36
      +9
      Quote: Migari
      , Ukraine had 2311 tanks

      Quote: Migari
      But there are somehow a lot of these "surpluses",

      What do you mean? Could you name a European country that has at least half of this number of tanks, even considering storage?

      Quote: Migari
      The most important thing is that the cancellation and sale of the Soviet legacy is in no way offset by new supplies

      Enough modernization of the cash arsenal.
      1. Dmitriy1975
        Dmitriy1975 8 November 2013 13: 17
        -7
        The question is, why do you need to upgrade, are you going to fight against someone?
        1. Kars
          Kars 8 November 2013 13: 43
          +8
          Quote: Dmitriy1975
          The question is, why do you need to upgrade, are you going to fight against someone?

          The question is certainly interesting.
          There are a lot of answers - that the army would meet the level of possible threats in the region (this option suits me).
          1. Dmitriy1975
            Dmitriy1975 8 November 2013 13: 58
            -5
            How did the army help when the romanians pressed the shelf?
            1. Kars
              Kars 8 November 2013 14: 05
              +4
              Quote: Dmitriy1975
              How did the army help when the romanians pressed the shelf?

              I ask how the Russian Federation helped nuclear weapons when China pressed territory on the Far East?
              1. Dmitriy1975
                Dmitriy1975 8 November 2013 16: 06
                -5
                Which territories? Links to plz documents, if possible
                1. Kars
                  Kars 8 November 2013 16: 20
                  11
                  Quote: Dmitriy1975
                  Which territories? Links to plz documents, if possible

                  You don’t know? Well, then ring. About Ukraine means you know, but about your country not?
            2. GastaClaus69
              GastaClaus69 8 November 2013 14: 06
              +9
              And how did the army help when the Chinese squeezed the islands out?
              Or should all international issues be resolved exclusively by force?
            3. SV
              SV 8 November 2013 20: 02
              -1
              very significant, fleas finish off the dog
  6. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 8 November 2013 11: 08
    +3
    200 tanks worth $ 100 million is cool, that is, 1 tank after modernization of 500 thousand dollars. No, we really do not need such contracts.
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 8 November 2013 11: 20
      +3
      MORE THAN 100 million were written to you in Russian in white, and more can be 200 and 300 ....
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 8 November 2013 11: 41
        0
        Quote: Patton5
        MORE THAN 100 million were written to you in Russian in white, and more can be 200 and 300 ..

        laughing and what is not a billion wassat
        1. Patton5
          Patton5 8 November 2013 11: 49
          -2
          maybe a billion, that's more than 100 million. or do you state the opposite? I just noticed that the article does not indicate the exact amount of the contract and do not respect yourself to draw conclusions from the journal Yustkikh "opuses"
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 8 November 2013 15: 49
            -3
            Quote: Patton5
            maybe a billion, it's over 100 million.

            Then write a trillion wassat
            1. Patton5
              Patton5 8 November 2013 15: 54
              +3
              Alexander you are a boor and a Troll
              1. Kars
                Kars 8 November 2013 16: 22
                +5
                Quote: Patton5
                lexander you are boorish and troll

                I ask the trolls not to offend with such a comparison.
    2. rolik2
      rolik2 8 November 2013 21: 20
      +7
      No, we really do not need such contracts.

      Well, let the repair factories bend, and we are proud people will not work for 100 lemons in Baku. So what?
      For Russia, the sale of used equipment would be a bonanza. And you put it in the oven. The cost of the pig iron tank remelting will not exceed 3 thousand dollars. And here, out of the blue, 500 thousand dollars + job security, + orders for subcontractors, etc. etc.
  7. desiscia
    desiscia 8 November 2013 12: 40
    +5
    That's right, why do we need the t-72 in our t-64 in bulk.
    1. domokl
      domokl 8 November 2013 14: 02
      +6
      You are in vain tragically so ... I think. That with a certain approach, the Ukrainians will get the upgraded 64 ... It all depends on how they upgrade ..
      1. Kars
        Kars 8 November 2013 14: 04
        +7
        Quote: domokl
        this depends on how they upgrade ..

        Do you dislike BM Bulat?
  8. Akim
    Akim 8 November 2013 12: 41
    +4
    The cynicism of our world always strikes me. The African continent is rich in sho already enviable. And in the majority of blacks there live like footcloths in the hole. And they are constantly fighting. and we, that Ukraine, that Russia does not disdain to push weapons there. We fatten on blood.
    1. haron
      haron 8 November 2013 13: 12
      +1
      Well, push the sunflower to them, or sugar beet. Vodka is also the same, in Ukraine there are more varieties than hair on the head of a young black man; they get drunk and stop waving checkers.

      What is, and push. And then all just push.

      They said correctly above, at least something for the hard workers of engineers and other people.
      1. Akim
        Akim 8 November 2013 13: 32
        +6
        Quote: haron
        Well, push the sunflower to them, or sugar beet.

        It would not hurt. Kenya with a population almost like Ukraine, GDP is 6 times lower, but the rulers instead of the grub bought the same Mi-28. Of course, now all the bourgeoisie, but somehow sad.
        1. haron
          haron 8 November 2013 23: 32
          +1
          Quote: Akim
          It would not hurt. Kenya with a population almost like Ukraine, GDP is 6 times lower, but the rulers instead of the grub bought the same

          And the meaning of this quote?
          The USSR pushed pasta to such nations for free, you’re borrowing indefinitely in debt.

          Kars’s phrase about the abolished bright communism is good.

          As if softer. Do you really think that a certain Wamba, without having a tank, will not kill his neighbor if he wishes?
          1. Akim
            Akim 9 November 2013 05: 49
            0
            Quote: haron
            As if softer. Do you really think that a certain Wamba, without having a tank, will not kill his neighbor if he wishes?

            It’ll kill .. Only with a tank will it do it faster and more massively.
            It’s one thing to sell an ax with which you can cut down either a tree or tear down a head. Another is an automaton that you don’t use in peace.
        2. sapran
          sapran 9 November 2013 12: 09
          0
          Akim I understood that the army is already in your past ... To become a convinced racist, you have to go to Africa once as part of a peacekeeping contingent for 1 year or be a military observer in the "red team" for at least 3 months (worse by 6 months).
          After that, the attitude towards the population can change very much ...
          I understand that internationalism is karasho, but looking at it all, you don’t watch it in your soul, but to engage in self-deception ... it’s more expensive for yourself and so near suicide ...
          1. Akim
            Akim 9 November 2013 13: 18
            0
            Quote: sapran
            After that, the attitude towards the population can change very much ...
            I understand that internationalism is karasho, but looking at it all, you don’t watch it in your soul, but to engage in self-deception ... it’s more expensive for yourself and so near suicide ...

            I'm not saying that you immediately need to love the Negroes. And nothing has changed in 10-20 years. This is a long civilization process. Those leaders of the African states, who followed the path of communism - it was a laugh. Three days they got off a palm tree. they don’t really know how to walk yet, but they’ve already gone laughing
            But our world does not help them, but selfishly uses it.
            Naturally, nothing is perfect.
            There is not much internationalism in me, and it is difficult for me to find a common language with the Arabs. I just talked about the sublime. Can the beauties on the "Miss World" carry nonsense about world peace. fellow
    2. Kars
      Kars 8 November 2013 13: 13
      +8
      Quote: Akim
      The cynicism of our world always strikes me

      What to do - light communism has been canceled.
      Quote: Akim
      and we, that Ukraine, that Russia does not disdain to push weapons there

      Everyone is pushing there, and as I heard without heavy weapons, they are also fighting there. In principle, I am not opposed if Ukraine will deliver food there.
  9. Silvio
    Silvio 8 November 2013 14: 24
    +2
    Quote: Aryan
    they stood at the port
    under the Ukrainian flag
    like in Adisabeb

    Tales of parking at the port of Adis Ababa are from the category of anecode about a submarine in the steppes of Kazakhstan. From the capital of Ethiopia to the Red Sea, there will be 500 kilometers. It’s strange that no one was kidding about this laughing Ethiopia, as far as I remember, had no access to the sea before. It was probably Israeli saboteurs soldier .
    1. alone
      alone 8 November 2013 21: 47
      0
      Quote: Silvio
      Ethiopia, as far as I remember, had no access to the sea before. These were probably Israeli saboteurs.


      here let me fix your mistake already)) wink Ethiopia lost access to the sea after Eritrea gained independence (formerly Eritrea was a province of Ethiopia) hi
  10. haron
    haron 8 November 2013 19: 20
    0
    Quote: Akim
    It would not hurt

    Make tractors for them cheaper than Chinese and more reliable than Japanese. On the basis of MBT, the stump is not clear, but HTZ still wink
    That sho is not a plowed continent.
    PS. It’s sad when entering the "Nenka" you observe the steppe not plowed, while pasta there and even in Russia, Italian are revered.
    1. Akim
      Akim 8 November 2013 19: 45
      0
      Quote: haron
      PS. It’s sad when entering the "Nenka" you observe the steppe not plowed, while pasta there and even in Russia, Italian are revered.

      I eat ours. And in general, a lot of flour is harmful. There was also Chinese buckwheat - the filth of FU. No need to be a hypocrite, you don't feel hunger in Africa from a full belly. And from the Czechoslovak and Czech weapons, bought by them to the detriment of their people, Europe will become more satisfying.
      In bramboračke taste of blood do not feel?
      PS Ours are the same, but at least I do not justify them.
      1. haron
        haron 8 November 2013 23: 22
        0
        Quote: Akim
        In bramboračke taste of blood do not feel?

        No. In "potato pancakes" there is no taste of blood, as well as in the knife of Victorinox or in the knife of miks.

        Ukraine can feed half the world - if it wants.

        I perfectly understand your sarcasm or what to call it, but unfortunately the same Czechs over-produce bramboracks, but not tanks; and they are in demand.

        Type: Olue what for you a knife for 100 rubles? Che you will do - to guard pigs from the neighbor, or to take pigs from the neighbor.

        A tank will become worthless in two years (if you don’t look), but the knife will not.

        Well?! if you look deeper.
        (This is how I say the doctor) Morphine is a cure for pain and stupidity - the question is in the dose; and no one has come up with anything better yet.
        1. Akim
          Akim 9 November 2013 05: 58
          0
          Quote: haron
          (This is how I say the doctor) Morphine is a cure for pain and stupidity - the question is in the dose; and no one has come up with anything better yet

          I’m saying that all that has a dual purpose is a matter of psychology. Unfortunately, a generation of generations has grown up in Africa who, apart from war, know nothing. and our more developed world spurs them to this
          Well, this is a claim to our morality.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 8 November 2013 20: 57
    -3
    Yeah, this is a contract !?
    200 tanks for $ 100 mil, at what price?
    1. Patton5
      Patton5 8 November 2013 21: 49
      +2
      Comrades! You scare me, the article says

      An agreement signed in 2011, the value of which exceeds 100 million dollars, has become one of the largest contracts signed by the Ukrainian special exporter over the past 15 years.
      the journalist does not know the amount of the contract ... but assumes. request
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 10 November 2013 15: 03
        -1
        Quote: Patton5
        the journalist does not know the amount of the contract ... but assumes.

        If I understand correctly, then there can be any amount, that is, the T-72 Ethiopia can buy more expensive M1 Abrams? Again, these zhurnalyugi all mixed up .............
    2. alone
      alone 8 November 2013 21: 51
      +5
      Quote: APASUS
      Yeah, this is a contract !?
      200 tanks for $ 100 mil, at what price?


      what is better to dispose of these tanks or sell?

      I don’t understand what’s wrong with Ukraine selling its t-72nd Ethiopia? I think if there were no problems about the CU and the EU, they would not even discuss it here.
      1. Kars
        Kars 8 November 2013 22: 02
        10
        Quote: lonely
        what is better to dispose of these tanks or sell?

        The amount of the contract is much larger. Since the tanks undergo thorough repairs.
        Quote: lonely
        I don’t understand what's wrong with Ukraine selling its t-72nd Ethiopia?

        The fact that Uralvagonzavod did not sell the T-90 there
        1. alone
          alone 8 November 2013 23: 34
          +4
          I know about the price of the modernized T-72 in Ukraine. At least 1-1,5 million dollars for 1 piece. Ukraine sold the T-72AG tanks to Azerbaijan.
        2. sapran
          sapran 9 November 2013 12: 18
          +3
          Dear Kars, add to this that some of the tanks, in addition to DZ and communications, received 5TDFM engines (albeit not in the Kharkov version, but in a perverse one with a fan), then we laid the foundation and the foundation for the future (if only we would not forget to continue in the same vein) . In this regard, I am very impressed by the Belarusians who deliver their BMP to Africa and repair them every rainy season (every six months guaranteed work and cash receipts in the country's treasury)
  12. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 8 November 2013 22: 47
    -7
    Quote: bistrov.
    All right, you say, Ukraine was just lucky, at the end of the 80s a huge number of tanks, other equipment and weapons from Western Europe were withdrawn to its territory. All arsenals were full. After the collapse of the USSR, all this went to Ukraine. They have been trading for twenty-two years and cannot sell at all.
    We stupidly sell the Soviet legacy, and then we will suck at NATO? ...
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  14. Vasily Klopkov
    Vasily Klopkov 9 November 2013 02: 19
    -1
    And by the way, our Yanukovych is flying secretly to Putin today: http://lenta-ua.net/novosti/politika/36366-v-subbotu-yanukovich-tayno-letit-v-ro
    ssiyu.html It will be negotiated for a TS only. So everything may be fine and contracts with Russia will appear, for example, on airplanes. good
    1. svp67
      svp67 9 November 2013 12: 44
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      Quote: Vasily Klopkov
      And by the way, our Yanukovych is flying secretly to Putin today

      In this case, the word "SECRET" is most interesting ...
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 9 November 2013 18: 59
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        Quote: svp67
        In this case, the word "SECRET" is most interesting ...

        "Gentlemen! An auditor is coming to us ..."
        Silent scene fellow :

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        1. svp67
          svp67 9 November 2013 19: 02
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          Quote: Corsair
          "Gentlemen! An auditor is coming to us ..."
          Silent scene

          Classic. True silent scene came after the words:
          "The official who has arrived by personal order from St. Petersburg demands you to see you at the same time. He stayed at the hotel."
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 9 November 2013 20: 43
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            Quote: svp67
            Classic. True silent scene came after the words:

            I confess, I "twisted" the classics in order to "fit" to your comment repeat
  15. Hug
    Hug 9 November 2013 03: 13
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    Quote: Akim
    The cynicism of our world always strikes me. The African continent is rich in sho already enviable. And in the majority of blacks there live like footcloths in the hole. And they are constantly fighting. and we, that Ukraine, that Russia does not disdain to push weapons there. We fatten on blood.

    Who doesn't do that? I don't know such a country. Even peace-loving Germans are doing this, hiding behind debates in the Bundestag: isn't it immoral to sell weapons to a "fire-hazardous" region? And then, for the sake of decency, having lamented this question, they sell everything for a sweet soul.
    1. Akim
      Akim 9 November 2013 06: 04
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      Quote: Kram
      And who doesn’t do that? I do not know such a country

      Everyone is selling. a holy place is never empty. There are no ideals. Only pennies. A year ago, I came across a list - what objects the USSR built in 10 years of the war in Afghanistan and could not remember. what made essential NATO there.
      1. Patton5
        Patton5 9 November 2013 08: 09
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        First you need to put things in order in your own house, and then it's not a sin to help the neighbors. If you do it on the contrary, people will not understand (people) .... even if we put all the food there, it will not change anything, the bondos will be stolen. Africa, as Comrade Sukhov said, "is a delicate matter"
  16. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 9 November 2013 12: 40
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    Quote: Vasily Klopkov
    And by the way, our Yanukovych is flying secretly to Putin today: http://lenta-ua.net/novosti/politika/36366-v-subbotu-yanukovich-tayno-letit-v-ro

    ssiyu.html It will be negotiated for a TS only. So everything may be fine and contracts with Russia will appear, for example, on airplanes.
    You have great sweets! good
  17. Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 9 November 2013 12: 49
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    Quote: Kram
    loving Germans
    drinks Coolly said "peace-loving Germans"! Have you seen the modern German army? To make their asses fit in the tank, they inflated the turret of their Leopard-2 to unimaginable sizes ...
  18. Corsair
    Corsair 9 November 2013 18: 43
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    Quote: Akim
    Those leaders of African states, who followed the path of communism - it was a laugh. Three days they got off a palm tree. they don’t really know how to walk yet, but they’ve already gone

    Those that themselves got off the palm tree, nothing else ... But there were those who were blown away by the wind, or worse from the palm tree SHAKE.