The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

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The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"The US military regarded missile defense radar in Armavir as destabilizing the balance of strategic forces.

The Pentagon expressed concern about the actions of Moscow in the field of missile defense. On the one hand, it calls on the United States to disarm, and on the other, it is actively strengthening its borders with anti-missile systems, The Washington Free Beacon writes. Official representatives of the US armed forces declared that the new radar station (radar) of the missile defense system (PRO) in Armavir increases the total number of Russian missile defense systems and poses a threat to the security of America and Europe.

"The Russians do not agree with the deployment of US anti-missile systems installed in Europe, but at the same time they themselves create a network of means for detecting a rocket attack," the publication quotes official publications from the United States.

The US military is also concerned about the creation of the Russian PC-24 “Yars” rocket, which was tested in September of this year. In their opinion, the test results speak of it as a medium-range missile. This violates the agreement between the USSR and the USA on 1987 on the elimination of such missiles. However, the Russian side claims that the range of the Yars (more than 5500 km) exceeds that of medium-range missiles and cannot be considered as a breach of contract.

The discontent of the US military is exacerbated by the statement of Barack Obama to reduce the offensive arsenal in the framework of agreements with Russia. He stated this in September in Berlin. Earlier, the US leadership abandoned the fourth phase of creating missile defense in Europe. According to US Deputy Secretary of Defense Alexander Vershbow, the savings will be directed, in particular, to improve the accuracy parameters of the interceptor missiles that will go into service with American bases in Poland and Romania.

I want to answer ...

For all these “concerns” I can ask only one simple question - is it possible for you, but can't we? Since when thinking about our security, we should consult with foreign "partners"? Moreover, with those who sleep and see a picture of the encirclement of the new Russian military bases, as in the good old days of the Cold War.

And not Russia is the first in the anti-missile disputes began to build up "muscles". In the end, we did not initiate US actions to create a European missile defense system, which is supposedly intended to neutralize the missile threat from "rogue states". We did not push the “older brother” to twist the hands of the younger brothers in the NATO bloc, that is, their partners, in order to get them to agree to such actions. And you can ask a lot of such obvious questions to which objective answers will not be in your favor, gentlemen.

Therefore, dear ones, it’s better not to express your “concerns”, but rather look for consensus with us on these issues. So said in his time the first and last president of the USSR, the unforgettable Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev.
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  1. +129
    7 November 2013 16: 45
    The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

    And I do not like the American military! We're even!
    1. +99
      7 November 2013 16: 57
      "Someone is very, very sexually concerned."
      In our territory, we want to build what we want, unlike the United States and its footcloths. These pre-imperials already pulled up.
      1. +24
        7 November 2013 17: 02
        Quote: fzr1000
        We are building on our territory what we want

        Master barin)))))) ++++++++
        1. +47
          7 November 2013 19: 27
          And what is the concern, the radar is not even a weapon of defense, but just the eyes.
          1. +27
            7 November 2013 20: 12
            Apparently very good eyes, from which you can’t hide anything. So the Americans are afraid that during the attack, ours will quickly find their missiles and bring them down, and that’s the balance will be upset. lol
            1. Good Ukraine
              +36
              8 November 2013 02: 04
              hi
              Quote: Simon
              Apparently very good eyes, from which you can’t hide anything. So the Americans are afraid


              They did not like these eyes very much after two "fallen" ballistic missiles in the Mediterranean Sea, launched at Syria. And the warlike tone changed to "peaceful chemical initiatives"
              Apparently the eyes not only look, but also launch anti-missiles.
              VERY GOOD STATIONS.
              Here is to put this back in Cuba (to combat pirates) to restore the balance of power.
              laughing
            2. +7
              8 November 2013 07: 27
              and in response, something else will be pulled, for example)))
            3. 0
              12 November 2013 11: 17
              Quote: Simon
              Apparently very good eyes, from which you can’t hide anything. So the Americans are afraid that during the attack, ours will quickly find their missiles and bring them down, and that’s the balance will be upset. lol


              This is a common propaganda (aka informational) blow.
              And a year later in the eyes (and short memory) of the whole world - either the United States began the ABM race, or the Russian Federation.
              Like in a joke - either he stole or stole from him, but he will go on vacation in November.
          2. +25
            7 November 2013 20: 13
            and if they see eyes, then even a fist can fly, or poplar
            1. Van
              +15
              7 November 2013 22: 51
              Quote: wasjasibirjac
              and if they see eyes, then even a fist can fly, or poplar


              Yeah, and poplars will all rest in peace ... laughing
            2. vell.65mail.ru
              +20
              7 November 2013 23: 08
              It seems that: the owners hung serious locks on the door, and the thieves are indignant; it will be difficult to steal now, maybe we’ll tie the doors on the eyelet? hi
            3. +2
              8 November 2013 09: 52
              No wonder they planted two poplars =) To remember.
              1. Andron59
                0
                12 November 2013 17: 27
                For greater reliability, it would not be bad to send them a pair of Topol under their own power)))
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          3. Jin
            +30
            7 November 2013 20: 47
            Quote: varov14
            And what is the concern, the radar is not even a weapon of defense, but just the eyes.


            Totally agree!


            "The Russians do not agree with the deployment of US anti-missile systems installed in Europe, but at the same time they themselves create a network of means for detecting a rocket attack," the publication quotes official publications from the United States.

            Ha ha! It's not funny (((What, for f * mnya, mlyn ?! We, then, are creating a radar, and their "anti-missile means" mean the basing of missiles together with a radar ... it somehow does not count or "fell asleep" this moment?

            All this blizzard is already so shabby, vulgar, hackneyed to holes, wretched and irrelevant, that they themselves (the mattresses) do not seem to believe in what they themselves believe ... even NATA allies.
            And of course, the fact that the Armavir radar "burned" the launch of missiles in the Mediterranean Sea, remember, I think, situevina? ... The freaks did not expect such a bone in the throat ... that is not! Not even in the throat, but in f * ck! And not a bone at all, but an organ of three simple Russian letters ... And again it smelled unpleasant from across the ocean ... Well, what can I say, colleagues ...
            1. +13
              7 November 2013 21: 30
              I think that the launch of their missiles in the Mediterranean was not "targets." Most likely it was a provocation to see the reaction. Firstly, will we notice these launches or not and how we will notice. And secondly, how will we react, whether we go to intercept or not, how the grouping of ships will react, etc.
          4. AVV
            +30
            8 November 2013 00: 26
            Firstly, all of our radars are being built, on our national territory, and secondly, if they begin to screech, then we are doing everything right, we need to go further in this direction, thirdly, they don’t like YRS in this form, let's meet them and make them railway complex to be bursting with screeching !!!
            1. 0
              14 November 2013 01: 26
              A squeal is not enough ...
              Diarrhea, frequent, prolonged, fluid, debilitating, and so that the spine spills into the toilet ...
              1. 0
                10 December 2016 22: 46
                the late grandfather said, Three meters against the wind. Not counting the fine spray!
      2. +27
        7 November 2013 18: 03
        Quote: fzr1000
        In our territory, we want to build what we want, unlike the United States and its footcloths

        I agree. And in general, it is not entirely clear what has to do with our radar and their concern, if we are not going to intercept their missiles at the moment of launch, and intercepting it at the last stage of the flight is practically unrealistic, then our radars do not pose any threat to them. Now, if we had deployed our Voronezh on Cuba and also placed ICBM intercept missiles, which, by the way, are already doing next to us, then we can express concern ..
        1. +14
          7 November 2013 19: 59
          Why don't we do it?
        2. Pol
          +8
          7 November 2013 20: 22
          So they stink after 03.09. Remember ?: "The Russian missile attack warning system recorded the launch of two ballistic missiles in the Mediterranean Sea" ... When they launched a "target" type with Israel :-)
        3. Rif
          +11
          7 November 2013 21: 21
          But shouldn't we, at B himself, Shakespeare, and really build "Voronezh" in Cuba?
          1. jjj
            0
            8 November 2013 00: 50
            Cuba is in an extremely unstable state. Let’s recall Lenin’s grandfather - the tops can no longer control in the old way, but the lower classes don’t want to. I think that in Cuba in the near future there will be a mess.
        4. 0
          14 November 2013 10: 13
          Well, that's right. It is necessary to keep track of those adversaries who will provoke the flying Tu-160 "swans", otherwise, God forbid, Colombian planes twitch to intercept - and an international scandal cannot be avoided.
      3. nickname 1 and 2
        0
        8 November 2013 12: 30
        Therefore, dear ones, it’s better not to express your “concerns”, but rather look for consensus with us on these issues. So said in his time the first and last president of the USSR, the unforgettable Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev.


        Here IT - shook!
        1. Tretyakov
          0
          8 November 2013 19: 53
          Well duck with a black sheep - at least a tuft of wool! (this is about Gorbachev (I can’t write with a small letter, spelling does not allow!))
      4. +3
        9 November 2013 20: 40
        Quote from the article: "Officials from the US Armed Forces said that a new missile defense (ABM) radar station in Armavir will increase the total number of Russian missile defense systems and poses a threat to America and Europe."
        I would like to ask, how the fuck is it ??? "Voronezh" is located in the depths of the territory of the Russian Federation! While the USA missile defense radar components are not even in America, but on another continent, at OUR borders! I wonder how loud the screeching of the State Department will reach if Voronezh is placed, say, in Cuba ??! AND? am
        1. +2
          14 November 2013 15: 16
          Quote: GSH-18
          I wonder how loud the screeching of the State Department will reach if Voronezh is placed, say, in Cuba ??! AND?

          Venezuela, too, would not mind having such a miracle .... but it is fraught.
    2. +18
      7 November 2013 17: 36
      Quote: Brother
      The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

      And I do not like the American military! We're even!

      And I like it better that the radar for the protection of Russia from the direction where the United States does not even smell, except for the bases, represents, attention: US SECURITY THREAT.
      I propose not to challenge the fool- A.S. Pushkin.
      1. +10
        7 November 2013 18: 33
        Our government would continue to think less about how the West would like it, and more about the interests of its country and the needs of the people living in it.
        1. +6
          7 November 2013 18: 54
          Two coverage maps of Russian early warning radar stations. I don’t know which one is more accurate.



          Scaled through the right mouse button ("open image")
          1. +6
            7 November 2013 22: 30
            for complete happiness, there is not enough station on Sakhalin or the Kuril Islands
            1. 0
              14 November 2013 01: 42
              Better in Chukotka and in the north.
        2. bask
          +3
          7 November 2013 20: 33
          [quote = Bad_gr] Our government would continue to think less about how the West would like it, and more about interests [/ quote]
          [quote =] US military does not like the Voronezh radar [/ Quote]

          AND BUILD A LONG DETECTION STATION IN CUBA.
          Let's see how the Americans will scream.

          "On October 17, 2001, at a meeting in the Russian Ministry of Defense, President Putin told the military that Russia is leaving its last military bases in the far abroad - in Cam Ranh (Vietnam) and Lourdes (Cuba)." Http://www.agentura.ru/ infrastructure / bases / russbases
          1. Onyx
            +5
            7 November 2013 20: 39
            Quote: bask
            "On October 17, 2001, at a meeting at the Russian Defense Ministry, President Putin told the military that Russia is leaving its last military bases in the far abroad — in Cam Ranh (Vietnam) and Lourdes (Cuba).

            Then we were not up to bases in far abroad countries, the country almost fell apart. So this decision was then justified
      2. +1
        9 November 2013 20: 45
        Quote: Army1
        The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

        It would be strange if they liked him! laughing
    3. +21
      7 November 2013 18: 28
      It's like a balm for the soul ..))) Every day I would read such events ...
    4. yuri p
      +6
      7 November 2013 18: 49
      "And I don't like the American military! We are quits!" .... the wrong answer is "I don't like the very existence of the United States," at least as it is now.
    5. aleks222
      +10
      7 November 2013 19: 06
      I admire the endurance of our diplomats. As they generally talk with ami, I would spit in the face or give.
      1. +2
        7 November 2013 21: 50
        That's why they are diplomats, so as not to beat the face, but to talk)))
        1. +4
          7 November 2013 22: 37
          Quote: Ramazan
          That's why they are diplomats, so as not to beat the face, but to talk)))


          Nope! Do not talk, but verbally smear a star-striped chicken on the wall. And lately it’s not bad at them.
          1. 0
            8 November 2013 22: 38
            Well, this is a pun;)
    6. +32
      7 November 2013 19: 18
      "The American military does not like the Voronezh radar station
      And I don't like the American military! We're even!"
      We need to explain to them that just as the American missile defense system is not directed against Russia, so are our radars designed to monitor flocks of migratory birds in order to prevent a bird flu pandemic! Calm down, we are partners! laughing laughing bully
      1. +5
        7 November 2013 20: 18
        So the Americans will generally get into a dead end in the negotiations, where does the bird flu? And we will say that he can mutate and go into rocket.
    7. bif
      +3
      7 November 2013 21: 47
      Quote: Brother
      The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

      What does it have to do in Armavir, on the territory of the Russian Federation.
      It is necessary to build a pair of "Voronezh" on the territory of South America (Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba ... there is a great choice), then our partners will "sing".
      1. Antas
        +1
        7 November 2013 23: 47
        Indeed, Voronezh in Cuba could cover the entire Atlantic Ocean.
    8. timer
      +3
      7 November 2013 23: 09
      Just add, I still don’t like democracy in American style. I really want to wish them, put it in your jo ....!
    9. +8
      8 November 2013 02: 16
      “The Russians do not agree with the deployment of US missile defense systems installed in Europe, but at the same time they themselves create a network of means for detecting a missile attack”

      No, well, they are stupid in nature, as Zadornov said ...
      1. +2
        9 November 2013 20: 52
        Quote: mark021105
        No, well, they are stupid in nature, as Zadornov said ...

        They are not stupid, just very arrogant and mow down for a fool! Only with the Russians it does not roll! angry
    10. +1
      8 November 2013 04: 50
      Quote: Brother
      The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

      And I do not like the American military! We're even!


      I don’t like the Americans themselves ...
    11. +2
      8 November 2013 05: 55
      no, well, an interesting thing! don't like it, don't look! laughing
    12. 0251
      +1
      8 November 2013 10: 21
      To all these "concerns" a simple question addressed to the United States - you can, but we can not? Since when, thinking about our safety, should we consult with foreign “partners”? Moreover, with those who sleep and see the picture of the encirclement of new Russia with military bases, as in the good old days of the Cold War.
      Therefore, dear ones, it’s better not to express your “concerns”, but rather seek consensus with us on these issues.







        
    13. Airman
      +2
      8 November 2013 11: 14
      This is precisely the radar that detected missile launches in the Mediterranean, and therefore does not like it. And would not have noticed, would have been silent in a rag.
      1. Onyx
        0
        8 November 2013 11: 17
        Quote: Povshnik
        This is precisely the radar that detected missile launches in the Mediterranean, and therefore does not like it. And would not have noticed, would have been silent in a rag.

        Is such a radar capable of detecting missile launches?
        1. +2
          9 November 2013 21: 01
          I think that if the amerskie warriors do not like Voronezh, then this is a cool radar station! good
    14. xan
      +3
      8 November 2013 13: 15
      Quote: Brother
      The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

      And I do not like the American military! We're even!

      but I like what they don't like
    15. anatoly
      +3
      8 November 2013 15: 37
      They got used to it. That the Russian leaders simply merged Russia, it’s Misha and Boriska. Who sold Russia, but no Russia will stand and still show some mother Kuskin to someone!
    16. 0
      13 November 2013 10: 11
      We build what we want on our territory.
    17. SEM
      SEM
      0
      14 November 2013 12: 28
      I propose the same VORONEZH radar in CUBA to INSTALL AS A GIFT AMERICA)))
  2. +39
    7 November 2013 16: 45
    What a grief, "Voronezh" America doesn’t like ... I like it, I don’t like it - bear with me, my beauty! As they say, endure - fall in love. The main thing is that the overseas "friends" do not like something else. good
    1. +9
      7 November 2013 16: 49
      It’s good that it’s not a beauty contest - they would lose their voice.
    2. +38
      7 November 2013 17: 09
      Quote: Stiletto
      Like, don't like - be patient, my beauty!

      and I am "annoyed" by their immediate impudence ... we build on our territory and they are generally on another continent ... the difference, as they say, is obvious.
    3. +24
      7 November 2013 17: 30
      Quote: Stiletto
      What a grief, "Voronezh" America doesn’t like ... I like it, I don’t like it - bear with me, my beauty! As they say, endure - fall in love. The main thing is that the overseas "friends" do not like something else. good

      I say thank you to the US military !!! - Now I additionally know .. that we are going the right way !!!!)))
      1. +11
        7 November 2013 17: 33
        Judging by the statements of the Pentagon, America only likes to drum in the ass. And "Voronezh", you see, undermines the foundations of their democracy. Pichalko, however. We will deliver our condolences to Yarsami. It really delivers, the Pentagon should like it winked
    4. rolik
      +10
      7 November 2013 18: 00
      The US military regarded missile defense radar in Armavir as destabilizing the balance of strategic forces.
      And the deployment of missile defense systems in Romania, this is probably probably the most stabilizing factor in Europe))))) But, indeed, the factor that will be very unnerving is when we put rockets in Cuba.
      1. +12
        7 November 2013 18: 21
        Quote: rolik
        But, really, the factor that will be very unnerving is then, when we put missiles in Cuba.

        Yes, at least by analogy with the United States, we are setting up a radar in Venezuela against ... against ... the pirates of Somalia.
        1. rolik
          +3
          7 November 2013 18: 30
          Quote: Scoun
          . opposite .. the pirates of Somalia.

          Even better against Mujahideen penguins in Antarctica.
      2. +2
        7 November 2013 18: 37
        Quote: rolik
        But, indeed, the factor that will be very unnerving will be when we put rockets in Cuba.

        At least a Voronezh-type locator.
    5. +2
      7 November 2013 18: 46
      But this is the Armavir radar like a needle in the seat - I don’t like it ...
      1. +32
        7 November 2013 18: 51
        let them watch from their satellite wassat
        1. 1712
          +7
          7 November 2013 20: 15
          I propose that the personnel in such a configuration move around for our foreign friends.
    6. +4
      7 November 2013 19: 49
      Quote: Stiletto
      What a grief, "Voronezh" America doesn’t like ... I like it, I don’t like it - bear with me, my beauty! As they say, endure - fall in love. The main thing is that the overseas "friends" shouldn't like something else

      In general, plus everything, squeeze the radar requirements on the ship with the purpose of the SPRN. To make several pairs and drive along our mainland: along the Arctic Ocean (Northern Sea Route), the Pacific, Indian and Atlantic ... So for every fireman ... laughing
  3. +28
    7 November 2013 16: 45
    It’s good that they don’t like it, so everything is going well. We also have a lot that they did not like.
    1. +5
      7 November 2013 16: 58
      Apparently they really hoped that we won’t do anything (or we won’t) be able to wait for it to arrive.
  4. +3
    7 November 2013 16: 45
    It’s good that they don’t like it, so we are doing everything right. We also have a lot that they did not like.
  5. +17
    7 November 2013 16: 46
    "The Pentagon has expressed concern over Moscow's missile defense activities."
    that’s ... and what should we do now? it’s necessary to somehow reassure those who are worried ... maybe they should give them a piece of paper, where will it be written that this is not against Amer’s missiles? request
    1. +5
      7 November 2013 17: 01
      To hell with them and not a piece of paper .... we will manage with words. And their problems will not believe. They are not flattered that we do not believe them.
      1. +5
        7 November 2013 17: 14
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        To hell with them and not a piece of paper .... we will manage with words.

        yes let the deputies sign it. they are one hell the masters of their word, they themselves give, they themselves take belay
    2. +1
      7 November 2013 17: 46
      Quote: andrei332809
      "The Pentagon has expressed concern over Moscow's missile defense activities."
      that’s ... and what should we do now? it’s necessary to somehow reassure those concerned ... maybe give them a piece of paper, where it will be written that this is not against Amer’s missiles? request


      And that. Our Voronezh against the Colombian mafia, in the end, they scattered like that, the poor Venezuelans were too tired to shoot them down, and suddenly they attack Russia and throw off their drugs on us. This is a serious topic, so Yarsy have to scare them away. crying
    3. 0
      8 November 2013 12: 34
      Quote: andrei332809
      "The Pentagon has expressed concern over Moscow's missile defense activities."

      Concerned, usually ending badly. They should have inserted Yars with a gonorrhea, and then don't hesitate to be treated! laughing
  6. +39
    7 November 2013 16: 47
    ... Officials from the US Armed Forces said that the new missile defense radar (radar) station in Armavir increases the total number of Russian missile defense systems and poses a threat to the security of America and Europe ...

    What a joke ...
    laughing

    So they don’t like that our defense is improving.
    And that means that it is GOOD.
    1. +53
      7 November 2013 16: 52
      Quote: Aleks tv
      In, joke ..
      1. +1
        8 November 2013 13: 39
        And the client’s pleasure and benefit for us! Not an asymmetric, but anus response! That will satisfy the whale’s concern in full. I don’t like it, don’t eat, otherwise it’s all shit and shit (you better chew it) dear and anxious Yankees!
    2. whitewolf
      0
      9 November 2013 00: 36
      class !!!!!
  7. +14
    7 November 2013 16: 50
    I’ll say one thing, we are building complexes on our own land and they are on someone else’s, although they probably have long thought that Europe, in principle, is so purely a springboard for their pro and bases, well, in a conflict it will suffer first too, Poles, Romanians
    1. rolik
      +1
      7 November 2013 18: 33
      Quote: alekseinew
      , Poles, Romanians

      Well, these are necessary, in vain are the Iskanders next to them. Only now it will go not only to them, but also to the hero of the occasion. In addition to the military component, it will be possible to make economic Hiroshima. The main thing is to get the Central Bank out of under the government to pull out, and of course, quietly transfer the stabilization fund back.
      1. +4
        8 November 2013 04: 53
        Quote: rolik
        The main thing is to get the Central Bank out of under the government to pull out, and of course, quietly transfer the stabilization fund back.

        You wanted to say: - The Central Bank under the Government DRAW !! But the Stabilization Fund must be spent by buying from them something we need, giving them their pieces of paper we do not need ...))
  8. +7
    7 November 2013 16: 51
    And we like it.
    But we believe that missile defense in Europe is also shifting the balance of power.
  9. +7
    7 November 2013 16: 51
    Concerned Pentagon wassat
    Most rams confused frara shameful)))

    They are terrified and jealous .... they sense the retribution for their sins will soon come
  10. Kizhich
    +13
    7 November 2013 16: 52
    PRO - anti missile defense! And here the interests of Americans. Each country has the right to defense! You never know what I like, and what .... Yes, they went ...
  11. +5
    7 November 2013 16: 53
    Can give them a guarantee that their Voronezh missiles will not be detected! Amers have signs of "constipation of thoughts"!
    1. 0
      7 November 2013 18: 10
      Quote: uizik
      Can give them a guarantee that their Voronezh missiles will not be detected! Amers have signs of "constipation of thoughts"!

      No, the main thing here is to clarify that the missiles flying to Russia "Voronezh" will not detect, but will detect missiles flying to Europe and the United States. We will warn them of attacks if we decide to commit them.
      In general, there is very little funny. There is a cold war initiated by the states.
  12. +5
    7 November 2013 16: 54
    Omerecan idiocy has no aisle. fool
    1. +4
      7 November 2013 17: 20
      Do not say,
      The Pentagon expressed concern about Moscow’s missile defense. On the one hand, she calls on the United States to disarm.
      They thought that we would clap our ears when they overlaid us with their missile defense along and across.
  13. +2
    7 November 2013 16: 56
    The Pentagon expressed concern about Moscow’s missile defense. On the one hand, it calls for the United States to disarm, and on the other, it actively strengthens its borders with anti-ballistic missile systems, writes The Washington Free Beacon.

    Maybe in Venezuela to put radar and missiles either in Cuba or Nicaragua, or better in all 3 countries, so that the Pentagon understands the difference between us and them. We put missile defense within the borders of our country. And not around the US.
  14. +4
    7 November 2013 16: 56
    "Officials from the US Armed Forces said the new missile defense (ABM) radar station in Armavir increases the total number of Russian missile defense systems and poses a threat to the security of America and Europe."

    But "the American missile defense system in Europe in no way poses a threat to Russia, but is aimed exclusively at countering Iran and North Korea."
    1. 0
      7 November 2013 20: 23
      especially north korea
  15. +6
    7 November 2013 16: 58
    Do not like it, do not woo me,
    here from their Obama turns.
  16. DuraLexSedLex.
    +5
    7 November 2013 16: 59
    And what...
    Do not like it, do not look towards this radar) it will not be closed, not a humpback at the helm.
  17. Vitya.
    +2
    7 November 2013 17: 01
    If Russia goes to the best one, then America presents its claims. She probably wants Russia to remain "Golay".
  18. +4
    7 November 2013 17: 01
    And no one can recall that Russia, represented by its leadership and the Armed Forces, has ever "expressed concern" about the installation of missile defense components on the territory of the USA itself?
    I don’t remember that.

    Since our American partners have already expressed concern, whatever it was for nothing, I think, and rightly so, it makes sense to us to deploy something in Venezuela.

    - If there are no objections, then, Sergey Kuzhugetovich, please prepare the relevant proposals.
    Feisty V.V.
  19. Bashkaus
    0
    7 November 2013 17: 02
    If you only knew how sorry I am for the American in their concern. Sometimes there are situations when you need to come to terms. Here Americans need to come to terms and try to relax.
    1. +1
      7 November 2013 17: 38
      ... they are our concern ... wassat
  20. DuraLexSedLex.
    0
    7 November 2013 17: 02
    And what...
    Do not like it, do not look towards this radar) it will not be closed, not a humpback at the helm.
  21. iulai
    +3
    7 November 2013 17: 02
    Soon they will have only pederasts in their troops, and the Russian armed forces should create companies or regiments of convicts in the troops. In case of war, there will be a meeting!
  22. Shaman 21101973
    +7
    7 November 2013 17: 03
    The Cold War was not over with the collapse of the USSR. She continues. As America was a likely adversary, it remained ....
    Hence the conclusion ...With the prankster of the Great October Revolution, dear forum users ..
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  24. +1
    7 November 2013 17: 04
    It should also be added, for persuasiveness, that "these insidious Russians forced the meek United States to withdraw from the ABM treaty by force." We sleep with her, and she sends us gonorrhea! Hypocrisy is the second happiness.
  25. aepocmam
    +3
    7 November 2013 17: 05
    The Americans should not be convinced of what they accuse us of. All their accusations must be answered briefly and concisely - our radar station (or whatever else may become a matter of concern to the Americans) is not directed against the United States and other NATO countries and does not upset the balance of forces in the region (or the world). The main thing is that in no case do not make excuses and not give any counter arguments and arguments - nothing.
    1. +3
      7 November 2013 17: 57
      Duc, if Putin didn’t notice it and says it, he calls the whole west our partners. does not give them a reason to call us once again the axis of evil. they themselves in the 90s shouted that we are now partners
  26. aepocmam
    0
    7 November 2013 17: 05
    The Americans should not be convinced of what they accuse us of. All their accusations must be answered briefly and concisely - our radar station (or whatever else may become a matter of concern to the Americans) is not directed against the United States and other NATO countries and does not upset the balance of forces in the region (or the world). The main thing is that in no case do not make excuses and not give any counter arguments and arguments - nothing.
  27. Peaceful military
    +14
    7 November 2013 17: 06
    This audience, in their game of their own a priori sinlessness and our a priori sinfulness, has already played out to absolute idiocy, only they are not visible.
    I have a familiar Finn, he is also a retired officer, only the Finnish army. We have a joint business. A wonderful man, but with the same dislocation of the brain.
    He will see the news that in Russia, for example, West 2013 exercises were held. He immediately asks me how this is possible, it's almost aggression. This is where the exercises of NATO and the Nordic countries Steadfast Jazz 2013 begin, one asks, this is aggression. He answered, no, this is a normal planned study of the troops. The question is, do you see any contradictions? The answer is no, I do not see. Russia is an aggressor, and NATO and the Nordic countries are peaceful democracies that must be protected from the aggressor. Bullshit, but nothing to prove. fool
    1. +3
      7 November 2013 17: 20
      Quote: Peaceful military
      Bullshit, but nothing to prove

      and have not tried to use the proof that is used when the opponent "does not catch up"? in a nickle. it is very democratic, especially the last 20 years angry
      1. Peaceful military
        +4
        7 November 2013 17: 26
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: Peaceful military
        Bullshit, but nothing to prove

        and have not tried to use the proof that is used when the opponent "does not catch up"? in a nickle. it is very democratic, especially the last 20 years angry

        I said that we have a common cause and that he’s a wonderful man ... After all, for sure, I, like any normal person, have their own characters, which are clearly visible from the outside, but are absolutely not visible to the owner. smile
        1. +2
          7 November 2013 17: 38
          Quote: Peaceful military
          have your own bziki

          and where without them then ... but the examples of democratization in Amer’s style, apparently, do not convince him ... ndaaaa, a bad case drinks
          1. Peaceful military
            +3
            7 November 2013 17: 59
            Quote: andrei332809
            Quote: Peaceful military
            have your own bziki

            and where without them then ... but the examples of democratization in Amer’s style, apparently, do not convince him ... ndaaaa, a bad case drinks

            Like any Finn, he likes to sting. laughing
            HAPPY HOLIDAY! drinks
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  29. +9
    7 November 2013 17: 06
    It is normal to store nuclear weapons in Europe and Japan ... Building a missile defense along the borders of Russia and on foreign territory is normal ...
    Installing missile defense in Alaska is fine ...
    But if, Russia establishes a tracking station on its own territory, then immediately the guard ...
    But they would not have gone, according to a well-known adrem, with their statements ...
  30. +1
    7 November 2013 17: 08
    Another question of double standards is to see what is happening with the neighbors and turn a blind eye to what is happening at home.
  31. Onyx
    +12
    7 November 2013 17: 09
    The US military is also concerned about the creation of the Russian PC-24 “Yars” rocket, which was tested in September of this year. In their opinion, the test results speak of it as a medium-range missile. This violates the agreement between the USSR and the USA on 1987 on the elimination of such missiles. However, the Russian side claims that the range of the Yars (more than 5500 km) exceeds that of medium-range missiles and cannot be considered as a breach of contract.

    What Yars? Yars is an ICBM and no one argues with that. Probably, this means a complex, the chassis for which was recently demonstrated in Minsk:


    Well, this is a medium-range complex and Russia will soon withdraw from the INF Treaty ban treaty.
    1. 1712
      +3
      7 November 2013 20: 22
      It is called "Frontier". Such a mega "Iskander".
    2. +4
      7 November 2013 21: 06
      Quote: Onyx
      What Yars? Yars is an ICBM and no one argues with that. Probably, this means a complex, the chassis for which was recently demonstrated in Minsk:

      Apparently, the Belarusians have already withdrawn from the INF Treaty laughing business for small, in such a frame to insert the correct diamond, a couple of three kilotons.
      1. Onyx
        +1
        7 November 2013 21: 26
        Quote: SPACE
        Apparently, the Belarusians have already withdrawn from the INF Treaty laughing business for small, in such a frame to insert the correct diamond, a couple of three kilotons.

        Previously, at the Pioneers stood 3 blocks with a capacity of 150 ct. I think the new RSD will be significantly more accurate and the power can be reduced. But if the task is to defeat highly protected targets, then the power is unlikely to be greatly reduced
        1. Evgeniy.
          0
          10 November 2013 18: 57
          Why reduce it? Well, it’ll hit the bull's eye. Why is the charge weaker? Do we have enough uranium?
  32. +11
    7 November 2013 17: 10
    Not .., the Americans and I will never compare in the ability to twist and distort the essence of the matter.
    In reality, people have neither conscience nor honor.
    1. Shaman 21101973
      +1
      7 November 2013 17: 16
      Double Standards Policy ...
    2. Evgeniy.
      0
      10 November 2013 18: 58
      In reality, people have neither conscience nor honor.
      Do they know these words, their essence?
  33. +4
    7 November 2013 17: 12
    One of the two, either the Americans are really stupid, or "mow" like fools, declaring concerns about the radar station in Russia.
    1. +2
      7 November 2013 20: 33
      maybe super impudence?
  34. +5
    7 November 2013 17: 13
    Think about how perverse logic the Americans have, they put anti-missile defense systems at our borders and convince us that it is not directed against Russia, and when Russia erects missile attack early warning radar systems on its territory, it outrages them! Russia dismissed them with its inaction, it's time to put them in their place!
  35. +5
    7 November 2013 17: 15
    U.S. Armed Forces officials said the new missile defense radar (radar) station in Armavir is increasing the total number of Russian missile defense systems and threatening the security of America and Europe. - Americans have no logical thinking. Those. we threaten them by defending ourselves in an attack! laughing
    1. +2
      7 November 2013 17: 42
      Apparently - defense is also an attack. Whom to whom is not important. The main thing is to express indignation. They can’t do anything else
      1. Evgeniy.
        0
        10 November 2013 18: 59
        Apparently - defense is also an attack
        Everyone has a ministry of defense, no ministries of attack
  36. +21
    7 November 2013 17: 17
    I am not happy with the existence of the US state in its current form) I express extreme concern about this.
  37. +4
    7 November 2013 17: 19
    I like too
    And we do not offer it to them as a product.
    We install Voronezh radar products as a countermeasure to their wishes.
  38. +2
    7 November 2013 17: 19
    Do not like the Americans? These are their problems ... and we ... will continue the construction.
  39. +4
    7 November 2013 17: 21
    Some Americans carry nonsense!

    I quote: Officials of the US Armed Forces said that the new missile defense radar (radar) in Armavir increases the total number of Russian missile defense systems and poses a threat to the security of America and Europe.


    Question: What have they got in their brains? Or bigmack ate a second freshness?

    How can a radar threaten the US? Does she fly at the speed of hypersound? Or waves loosens the brains of the valiant NATO-US soldiers? Unclear.


    They themselves plant a real missile defense system: they test rockets, Ajis rivet ...


    Double standards...
    1. +4
      7 November 2013 18: 12
      Question: What have they got in their brains? Or bigmack ate a second freshness?

      How can a radar threaten the US? Does she fly at the speed of hypersound? Or waves loosens the brains of the valiant NATO-US soldiers? Unclear.
      No, it's not bigmack! This is probably a new batch of select Colombian tested! wassat So they began to imagine all sorts of threatening radar missile defense systems! laughing More intercontinental ballistic balalaikas, and another particularly dangerous type of psychological weapon - disguised as Russian dolls - Russian dolls !!! wassat laughing
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      2. kaktus
        0
        10 November 2013 17: 57
        And at home, draining the gas and cooling the reactor,
        said our team leader, as if by chance,
        that in the case of another similar provocation
        instead of a tractor, we will release a COMBINE on the field! laughing
    2. +13
      7 November 2013 18: 55
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Some Americans carry nonsense!

      On the one hand - yes! But on the other (American!) Side ...
      Americans are telling the truth: deployment of high-readiness radars of the Voronezh DM type are of great concern to them, but not because of the growing threat to US and European security. Not at all! The reason is different: Cried THEM (DOLLARS) MONEY! I will explain my thought.
      The Yankees developed the concept of a preemptive global strike. Everyone has calculated, they are developing hypersonic weapons for it ... And on you: new variables for the radar field, which previously did not exist! Voronezh, it turns out, perfectly sees the start of the 2's BR in the Sea of ​​Armavir. And all the plans for smarka! Under such conditions, the number of missiles breaking through to the targets does not work. And the press leaked infa that Russia is going to place such radars every 1000 km on the border perimeter. And how, under such conditions, to fulfill the task of a disarming strike? (Again, these Russians lowered them to their grandmothers.)
      But there is the other side of the coin. The myth says that Archimedes burned the Roman fleet with the help of mirrors and sunbeams. Now imagine the FAR "Voronezh", focused at one point and sent there an EMP with a capacity of N-megawat! I don’t know how metal is, but electronics and all living things will definitely not survive this. So much for the asymmetric response to the many-billion-dollar attempts of advocates of democracy.
      So, there is something to be saddened by the Yankees. Therefore, their impotent malice under the changed conditions of the attack on the Russian Federation results in a similar PR campaign.
      Well, for their European lackeys, there is P-24, on the approach of P-26, at worst Iskandyr-M. By the way, the infrastructure for their base in the region. already under construction. This is a word.
      1. Onyx
        +1
        7 November 2013 19: 05
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        And the press leaked infa that Russia is going to place along the perimeter of the border, every 1000 km, such radars

        Most likely, this is a duck, since there is no expediency in this. Stations will work with an overlap and all
    3. +3
      7 November 2013 20: 31
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      waves loosens brains of valiant NATO-US soldiers

      - and what, the idea! laughing
  40. ReifA
    +2
    7 November 2013 17: 22
    This is a brainwashing for Eurogays, Russia is preparing aggression again, you urgently need abrams, efs, radars and patriots.
    1. +1
      7 November 2013 17: 46
      Judging by the latest news - Used. They have nowhere to put their trash - and they shove someone inappropriately. And scary stories come up about Russian bears. Like, wih even the prime minister with the same name! Be afraid ...
  41. +2
    7 November 2013 17: 25
    The US military regarded missile defense radar in Armavir as destabilizing the balance of strategic forces.

    forgot to ask lol
  42. Alikovo
    +1
    7 November 2013 17: 25
    America as a state disgusts me.
  43. +1
    7 November 2013 17: 30
    GDP said something about ISKANDERS in the Kaliningrad region, if our overseas acquaintances began to place something in Poland. So they already started.
  44. +12
    7 November 2013 17: 30
    Russia is creating a single radar field along the country's borders. The transfer of the Kaliningrad SPRN radar from experimental combat duty to combat is scheduled for late 2014. And the station itself controls a sector that includes the northern part of Africa, the entire Mediterranean Sea and the northern part of the Atlantic Ocean, including the patrol areas of US nuclear submarines "Ohio" with strategic missiles on board. Within a radius of 6 thousand km on the surface of the Earth and 8 thousand km in space. Our country has similar high-readiness stations in Armavir, near St. Petersburg, in Lekhtusi (it is already on combat duty) and near Usolye-Sibirsky, near Irkutsk, in the village of Michelevka (the first phase is on experimental combat duty, the second is under construction) . Still in Russia, there are SPRN radars on the Kola Peninsula, in Olenegorsk (Dniester-M and Daryal), in the Komi Republic, the city of Pechora (Daryal), in the Belarusian Gantsevichi ("Volga"), in Kazakhstan, on Balkhash (Dnipro and Dniester). Rejoice pinds.sy.
    1. hans
      +1
      8 November 2013 18: 42
      It’s still under construction near the Yeniseisk (Krasnoyarsk kr.). In the 90s, under pressure from the United States, they completed the Shapkinskaya radar almost in the same place, I think they’ll build a modern one now! Enlighten someone, about 2 launched missiles in the Mediterranean! a little behind, I don’t understand what fuss is about!
      1. Alex 241
        0
        8 November 2013 18: 47
        Moscow, September 3 - AIF-Moscow. The Russian missile attack warning system (SPRN) on Tuesday morning recorded the start of two ballistic targets in the Mediterranean, RIA Novosti reported.

        As it became known, the launch was fixed at 10.16 Moscow time by the combat crew of a separate radio-technical center of the SPRN in Armavir. The flight path is directed to the eastern part of the Mediterranean coast.

        The head of the Ministry of Defense Sergey Shoigu immediately reported the launch of the missiles to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Initially, the Russian Ministry of Defense identified these missiles as ballistic, but after a while the Israeli Defense Ministry reported that the missile launches were tested by Israeli targets for missile defense systems and were carried out jointly with the United States.
  45. +1
    7 November 2013 17: 38
    Logic is often broken, a causal relationship for them does not exist. And they sacredly believe that the rod. In my opinion, such behavior can be attributed only to psychos.
  46. 0
    7 November 2013 17: 38
    If you squeal, then this is a good sign.
  47. 0
    7 November 2013 17: 41
    Quote: aepocmam
    The Americans should not be convinced of what they accuse us of. All their accusations must be answered briefly and concisely - our radar station (or whatever else may become a matter of concern to the Americans) is not directed against the United States and other NATO countries and does not upset the balance of forces in the region (or the world). The main thing is that in no case do not make excuses and not give any counter arguments and arguments - nothing.

    ... and at the same time it is possible to confirm with legal guarantees that the radar is not aimed at the USA and NATO
  48. +2
    7 November 2013 17: 42
    Yes, they went to hell ...
  49. +6
    7 November 2013 17: 44
    Radar SPRN 77Ya6-DM "Voronezh-DM" in Armavir, the photo shows both radar units.
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  51. +8
    7 November 2013 17: 47
    These Americans are complete scum. After the launch of the radar in Armavir, people scoffed, calling it almost a pile of scrap metal, and the entire Russian system being built as a dummy. And then they fell into a stupor when this radar, during the peak of the Syrian crisis, captured two of their ICBMs at the moment of launch in the Mediterranean Sea, and Russia immediately announced this to the world. Yes, in such a stupor that they could not open their mouths for almost a day to give out something intelligible as an excuse. Now they are whining about the threat to their safety. In Cuba, Russia’s Soviet tracking station needs to be restored so that the creatures will go into hysterics.
    1. +1
      7 November 2013 19: 53
      In Cuba, the Soviet tracking station for Russia needs to be restored so that the creatures generally go into hysterics.

      And not only in Cuba, but also in Venezuela.
  52. +2
    7 November 2013 17: 48
    <<<The American military does not like the Voronezh radar>>>
    And I don’t like......that she is ALONE! We need more than to block off the entire territory of Russia! And we need more Yars and BRZhK and Russian anti-missile Aegis and Iskander! With such “reboot partners” this is the only way to ensure your safety! Do the Americans really think that their reboot chatter and even “guarantees” will really protect Russia in CASE OF ANYTHING?
  53. +2
    7 November 2013 17: 52
    “The Russians do not agree with the deployment of US missile defense systems installed in Europe, but at the same time they themselves create a network of means for detecting a missile attack”
    Not only the fall, but also the first start. This radar immediately detected the launch of a missile from the Amer ship towards Syria, and they were very surprised when Russia immediately announced it.
  54. Shaman 21101973
    +8
    7 November 2013 17: 53
    When, in the exchange offices of our banks, will I finally stop seeing the US Dollar as a monetary unit? smile
  55. +1
    7 November 2013 17: 55
    as they say, if you don’t like it, don’t watch it
  56. Onyx
    +2
    7 November 2013 17: 57
    Quote: Goldmitro
    And I don’t like......that she is ALONE!

    She's not alone. 4 new Voronezh radars of various variants have already been commissioned, 3 more are under construction and the construction of at least three more is planned within the framework of the GPV-2020
  57. +8
    7 November 2013 17: 59
    The Pentagon expressed concern about Moscow’s missile defense. On the one hand, it calls for the United States to disarm, and on the other, it actively strengthens its borders with anti-ballistic missile systems, writes The Washington Free Beacon.

    From this phrase alone it is clear that Americans are EXCEPTIONAL people laughing
    1. Van
      0
      8 November 2013 20: 10
      Quote: sigizmund472
      From this phrase alone it is clear that Americans are EXCEPTIONAL people


      Yes, from the very creation they beat EXCLUSIVELY by angry people... lol
      Since only cowards always attack first, the Americans begin to squeal at someone who can at least answer them with something... lol
  58. bolyasnikov evgenij
    +4
    7 November 2013 17: 59
    MEASURES OF PERFORMANCE
    1. +2
      7 November 2013 18: 05
      totally agree
  59. 0
    7 November 2013 18: 00
    The Pentagon expressed concern about Moscow’s missile defense. On the one hand, it calls for the United States to disarm, and on the other, it actively strengthens its borders with anti-ballistic missile systems, writes The Washington Free Beacon.

    .
  60. 0
    7 November 2013 18: 03
    Their concern is immeasurable chutzpah!
  61. 0
    7 November 2013 18: 03
    The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"
    ha, I don’t like McDonald’s and why are they screwing me over democracy? wink
  62. +6
    7 November 2013 18: 03
    “The Russians do not agree with the deployment of US missile defense systems installed in Europe, but at the same time they themselves create a network of means for detecting a missile attack”

    What should we do, sit in the sandbox and make Easter cakes? This American stupidity and US double standards always kill me. We can do anything, since we are a supernation, and you must obey us, because... we bring you democracy, etc. and so on. Yes, go to the well-known address with all your America, and when you go (and you definitely will), don’t forget to grab your ass(o)licks from our territory. Supernation, damn it, sit in your USA and keep your head down. soldier
  63. lex fim
    +1
    7 November 2013 18: 11
    belay Specifically, these “peacekeepers” have a greyhound meter going through the roof.
  64. Kasyanov Sergey
    +1
    7 November 2013 18: 16
    When I read this article, I was simply stunned by their shamelessness: they say they are threatening, there is an imbalance of power, they are strengthening borders and the like.
    This is our State and We are obliged to do this. And we do it openly, unlike these rats who first agree on missile defense, and then unilaterally withdraw from it and deploy missile defense in Europe, as if for this reason they “stirred up” all this. And now, you see, I don’t like it: “this spoils our aggressive plans towards Russia.” This is what I see as the meaning of their claims. And tell the whole world, look how “soft and fluffy” we are, “we are protecting you,” but look, the aggressors have installed a radar station on their land.
    ...
  65. Kasyanov Sergey
    +3
    7 November 2013 18: 16
    When I read this article, I was simply stunned by their shamelessness: they say they are threatening, there is an imbalance of power, they are strengthening borders and the like.
    This is our State and We are obliged to do this. And we do it openly, unlike these rats who first agree on missile defense, and then unilaterally withdraw from it and deploy missile defense in Europe, as if for this reason they “stirred up” all this. And now, you see, I don’t like it: “this spoils our aggressive plans towards Russia.” This is what I see as the meaning of their claims. And tell the whole world, look how “soft and fluffy” we are, “we are protecting you,” but look, the aggressors have installed a radar station on their land.
    ...
  66. +1
    7 November 2013 18: 17
    wow. great news. This means we need to duplicate and build a couple more of these stations, patching up the holes so that the children’s concerns develop into paranoia and syndrome. It seems that our north is poorly covered. And in the future, a radar zone should be built, taking into account the heating up passions around the Arctic and the growing number of people who want to break off a piece of this fatty “pie”.
    But in general the news is absurd. I wouldn't even bother responding to those kinds of concerns. or come up with an excuse in their style: radar monitoring test launches of ballistic missiles from Iran, unidentified flying objects...
    1. +4
      7 November 2013 19: 09
      Quote: silver_roman
      It seems that our north is poorly covered.

      Here's a picture. Everything is shown on it. The radar station near Pechora looks north well. Even though she’s old.
      1. +1
        7 November 2013 20: 02
        Yes, but I think I read an article that it’s weak near Kamchatka at low altitudes. Low means up to 10 km, and this is precisely the most “important” height.... The natural curvature of the planet also plays a role, and just as you correctly noted, the age of the station itself. If I’m wrong, correct me.
        Placing the Voronezh-DM somewhere in the Taimyr region (at the same longitude) would be very useful: also in the interior of the country, i.e. relatively out of reach of the enemy, and would cover the eastern part of our country, i.e. the reaction time to actions by Japan and North Korean launches would be reduced.
  67. +3
    7 November 2013 18: 27
    Comrade officers! There is a proposal. Ireland threatens to bombard Russia with ice blocks in the form of missiles. In this regard, I propose to build and deploy a couple of Voronezh-type locators in Venezuela and probably on the island of Cuba. In parallel with this, place interceptor missiles somewhere in Nicaragua and Venezuela, and at the same time a couple of Yars divisions to cover the very glaciers from which missiles will be fired against us.
  68. 0
    7 November 2013 18: 31
    The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"
    Surely they liked her! Especially after the immediate discovery of “unknown” missile launches in the Mediterranean Sea, which some people wanted to hide with all their might.
    Voronezh station is now like a thorn in their side. Well done, keep it up! All the "pind...nu" - at gunpoint!
  69. +1
    7 November 2013 18: 33
    Violet, what does he think about our missile defense mattress? Strengthen the defense and that's it!
  70. 0
    7 November 2013 18: 36
    That is, Americans can build their own missile defense system in Europe, but that means we cannot build radar stations on our territory. winked
  71. +4
    7 November 2013 18: 44
    Apparently I didn't understand something.
    We install stations on OUR territory to protect OUR borders. And the Americans are installing stations and missiles not on their own territory, but on ALIEN’S territory. And at our borders. What psychopath can compare this? It is clear that stations and missiles are placed near the border of the country they are going to attack. The Psheks do not have nuclear missiles - they do not need Voronezh. Hitting them with strategic ammunition is the same as hitting yourself.
    And the Americans are placing missiles and stations at our borders - the country they are going to attack - in accordance with logic.
    It’s a shame that we are adopting their education system. She raises idiots.
    1. +2
      7 November 2013 18: 58
      Quote: homosum20
      according to logic

      Logic - this is the art of making mistakes with confidence in your rightness
  72. mihasik
    +2
    7 November 2013 18: 47
    My proposals): Having agreed with our friends from South America, install “Eskanders”, “Yars”, as well as TORs, Shells and finally strengthen the skies of, for example, Venezuela and Cuba from attacks and threats of nuclear attack, for example Nauru (one of the smallest countries world)! And I’m very surprised that the United States, for some reason, is indignant. And why are we worse than the Palasatiks!)) Although Khrushchev is a bitch, I personally respect him for the Cuban missile crisis.
  73. onegin61
    +2
    7 November 2013 18: 54
    Radar is eyes, especially one like "Voronezh", the striped ones forced us through the azer - we abandoned the southern radar, which was old, but worked, we hoped that the wings would be cut, but it didn’t work out. "Voronezh" is currently the best sight in the world. All that remains is to bring the “plasma” up to the level and everything else can simply be written off as scrap.
  74. +3
    7 November 2013 18: 55
    The US military is also concerned about the creation of the Russian PC-24 Yars missile, which was tested in September of this year. In their opinion, the test results speak of it as a medium-range missile. And this violates the 1987 agreement between the USSR and the USA on the elimination of such missiles.

    No, you Americans are our “damned friends”, leave medium-range missiles and indeed any missiles alone. There will be no reduction in launch vehicles, no disarmament. You will NOT receive any more weapons-grade uranium under the HEU-LEU program. Heat your nuclear power plants with fuel oil! soldier
  75. +2
    7 November 2013 19: 04
    We also need to return the BZHRK to service, then they will completely stop liking us. feel
  76. +2
    7 November 2013 19: 08
    No, well, it’s just a laugh... And why be surprised? America is looking more and more comical. Apparently the decline of this gangster formation is near.
    1. 0
      11 November 2013 02: 21
      Quote: Sergey47
      No, well, it’s just a laugh... And why be surprised? America is looking more and more comical. Apparently the decline of this gangster formation is near.

      I am also amazed that they are considered a Great Power! For me personally, Cuba. Vietnam is a much greater state than pi-p-d-o-sia. even the formation of which began with the extermination of the indigenous population
  77. 0
    7 November 2013 19: 09
    Whose cow would moo, but theirs would be silent.
    we owe their grievances!
  78. +3
    7 November 2013 19: 10
    The US military regarded missile defense radar in Armavir as destabilizing the balance of strategic forces.
    Of course. And they came to this opinion after the Armavir radar station did not want to miss the launch of two ballistic missiles in the Mediterranean Sea, which made the amers immediately sad. crying laughing fellow
  79. +3
    7 November 2013 19: 14
    I really like everything that America doesn’t like. I hope it's not just me.
  80. +3
    7 November 2013 19: 16
    One would like to say with the old slogan;
    So we are going the right way, comrades!!!
    We can safely say that our main “partner” gave our Voronezh radar a solid “A”!!!
  81. +1
    7 November 2013 19: 21
    And I should add that we actually installed it at home!
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  83. +1
    7 November 2013 19: 31
    In general, a radar on your territory is a defensive thing
    I wonder, how can you attack? Let out an electromagnetic beam or something?
    It sounds somehow crazy that they don’t like the fact that we are building defensive structures on our territory, Or do you, gentlemen, mattress makers, don’t like it because you want to attack??? Oh well

    the world is tired of the Anglas-Saxons
    someday, I hope, he will breathe more freely
  84. +1
    7 November 2013 19: 33
    Hmmm. As Vovochka said, “And these people blame me for picking my nose!” Although in general there is nothing to be surprised at - the policy of double standards was invented a long time ago - “What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull.” True, it’s time for the Yankees to think and remember that by positioning themselves as “a city of salvation on a hill,” they are missing what ultimately happened to Rome - also a city on the hills. History teaches people nothing...
  85. +4
    7 November 2013 19: 41
    Soon the same (and I think even cooler) thing will be built in the Orenburg region...! Hello amers! And the accompaniment will be appropriate!
  86. +4
    7 November 2013 19: 41
    Soon the same (and I think even cooler) thing will be built in the Orenburg region...! Hello amers! And the accompaniment will be appropriate!
    1. 0
      7 November 2013 20: 04
      Who downvoted out of anger? The radar will be there soon..
  87. July
    0
    7 November 2013 19: 49
    What are the problems, "friends"? Yes, install your own radar stations all along the coast, who’s stopping you? Russia is threatening you... it has surrounded you on all sides... I propose to open a mental hospital somewhere in Kolyma for several million exceptional people and at the same time God’s chosen ones!
  88. 0
    7 November 2013 19: 50
    The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"


    if a person is an idiot, then it will last for a long time. And if it lasts for a long time, it means for life!!
  89. +3
    7 November 2013 19: 54
    We are building Voronezh! We spit on America! What pompous words! It’s just interesting to know what everyone means by the word “WE”! In fairness, it is worth recognizing that Voronezh is being built by Russia, which, let me remind some, is ruled by Putin with corrupt officials who rob their people and whom some on the site dislike very much! As Yarosvet says, it is a sign of “Cognitive dissonance”. Yesterday they poured dirt on Putin and officials, but today we are cool! laughing Well, in principle, everything is clear, people earn pluses, you must always be in trend. Oh well. I also want to remind you that they are building not only Voronezh, Yarsy and Bulava, but also many other things that give jobs and salaries to people, develop science, technology, education and, most importantly, strengthen the external defense of the country! Thus causing unbearable moral and physical pain to the entire progressive blue world community. And all this can only be done by a person who, according to the logic of things, does not plan to surrender Russia. Well, okay, otherwise I’ve deviated from the topic...
    It is clear what they are building and why, and the reaction of overseas “friends” is also not surprising, but something else is of interest, the launch of two missiles in the Mediterranean Sea that were detected by radar, whether they were ballistic missiles, or, as the press indicates, cruise missiles, which seemed to be given by the radar Shouldn't we see each other, or is there something wrong with the media, in general, a question?
    1. +4
      8 November 2013 06: 42
      I fully support you! You are very right. And you can see what is being built and opened every day here:

      http://www.sdelanounas.ru/

      People, don't be shy, take a look. wink

      And there is no need to be ashamed of your Motherland, be proud of its successes. Something like this.
  90. Tony tomahawk
    +1
    7 November 2013 19: 56
    Is this by any chance not the radar that detected the launch of a ballistic missile from Israel in the summer? Which one splashed into the sea, and which was discovered at that very second?
    Sorry if I made a mistake somewhere, the news was a long time ago :)
    1. +2
      7 November 2013 20: 07
      She is the most (and not only)...
  91. 0
    7 November 2013 20: 04
    I know why the Yankees hate our radars - they were not taught to sit on the potty as children
  92. +1
    7 November 2013 20: 04
    I know why the Yankees hate our radars - they were not taught to sit on the potty as children
  93. +1
    7 November 2013 20: 14
    Radars are not missiles. So let them bark.
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  95. +1
    7 November 2013 20: 17
    I am not surprised. I always knew that mattresses are a concern in life. Moreover, they are as impudent as locomotives. And with the arrogant ones, you need to be arrogant. Basically, where is the arrogance on our part? Everything is fair with us. The truth is behind us and let them not say that everyone has their own truth. In their case this is not appropriate.
  96. 0
    7 November 2013 20: 20
    What is good for a Russian is death for a German (foreigner). I think we should always stick to this phrase.
  97. vinnie
    +2
    7 November 2013 20: 24
    Once again the Yankees are taking us for a show off... just like in Gorbachev’s times, when they forced the construction of the Daryal early warning radar station in Yeniseisk to stop. Then they also shouted with all their might that we were violating the ABM Treaty. But the whole point is that that radar, like our new Voronezh-type VZG radars, have nothing to do with the missile defense system. These are typical early warning radars, and soon (by about 2018-2020) all the old radars (Dnepr, Daryal) will be removed from the system and replaced with the newest ones - Voronezh... Then the radar field can be considered PRN completely restored. And it will be done!!! I think our government today has enough intelligence and fortitude not to succumb to such provocations
  98. coserg 2012
    +1
    7 November 2013 20: 25
    I think that they do not see the difference between Russia and the Papuans at all. Otherwise, how can one explain such verbal diarrhea, especially from the lips of the military.
    1. +2
      7 November 2013 21: 00
      No, out of habit, the caravan moves on, the dogs bark. They're from North Korea, obviously. And they mistakenly think that we are joking with them. We are not Korea, we will not get off the pots. Fucking "warriors".
  99. +5
    7 November 2013 20: 32
    It is right that new factory-ready radars in a few years will create a continuous field of radar surveillance throughout the country. Why are the Americans excited if they are not going to fire missiles at Russia? am
  100. +9
    7 November 2013 20: 33
    The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

    But in my opinion she’s very pretty, and looks good in profile. And the eyes are sharp - they look far. It’s just that striped people don’t understand anything about beauty!
    1. +2
      7 November 2013 23: 11
      mattress covers are simply completely devoid of an aesthetic sense of perception of beauty. So if they don’t like it, maybe we can build a couple more, they would definitely block off the entire north, and the Far East, just in case....
      1. +2
        9 November 2013 21: 09
        Quote from the article: "
        The US military is also concerned about the creation of the Russian PC-24 Yars missile, which was tested in September of this year. In their opinion, the test results speak of it as a medium-range missile. And this violates the 1987 agreement between the USSR and the USA on the elimination of such missiles."
        In this case, let them shove their tomahawks into their mouths! After all, their range is less than 5500 km! And we don’t give a damn that these are cruise missiles!

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