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The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

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The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"The US military regarded missile defense radar in Armavir as destabilizing the balance of strategic forces.


The Pentagon expressed concern about the actions of Moscow in the field of missile defense. On the one hand, it calls on the United States to disarm, and on the other, it is actively strengthening its borders with anti-missile systems, The Washington Free Beacon writes. Official representatives of the US armed forces declared that the new radar station (radar) of the missile defense system (PRO) in Armavir increases the total number of Russian missile defense systems and poses a threat to the security of America and Europe.

"The Russians do not agree with the deployment of US anti-missile systems installed in Europe, but at the same time they themselves create a network of means for detecting a rocket attack," the publication quotes official publications from the United States.

The US military is also concerned about the creation of the Russian PC-24 “Yars” rocket, which was tested in September of this year. In their opinion, the test results speak of it as a medium-range missile. This violates the agreement between the USSR and the USA on 1987 on the elimination of such missiles. However, the Russian side claims that the range of the Yars (more than 5500 km) exceeds that of medium-range missiles and cannot be considered as a breach of contract.

The discontent of the US military is exacerbated by the statement of Barack Obama to reduce the offensive arsenal in the framework of agreements with Russia. He stated this in September in Berlin. Earlier, the US leadership abandoned the fourth phase of creating missile defense in Europe. According to US Deputy Secretary of Defense Alexander Vershbow, the savings will be directed, in particular, to improve the accuracy parameters of the interceptor missiles that will go into service with American bases in Poland and Romania.

I want to answer ...

For all these “concerns” I can ask only one simple question - is it possible for you, but can't we? Since when thinking about our security, we should consult with foreign "partners"? Moreover, with those who sleep and see a picture of the encirclement of the new Russian military bases, as in the good old days of the Cold War.

And not Russia is the first in the anti-missile disputes began to build up "muscles". In the end, we did not initiate US actions to create a European missile defense system, which is supposedly intended to neutralize the missile threat from "rogue states". We did not push the “older brother” to twist the hands of the younger brothers in the NATO bloc, that is, their partners, in order to get them to agree to such actions. And you can ask a lot of such obvious questions to which objective answers will not be in your favor, gentlemen.

Therefore, dear ones, it’s better not to express your “concerns”, but rather look for consensus with us on these issues. So said in his time the first and last president of the USSR, the unforgettable Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev.
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  1. Brother
    Brother 7 November 2013 16: 45 New
    129
    The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

    And I do not like the American military! We're even!
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 7 November 2013 16: 57 New
      99
      "Someone is very, very sexually concerned."
      In our territory, we want to build what we want, unlike the United States and its footcloths. These pre-imperials already pulled up.
      1. INTER
        INTER 7 November 2013 17: 02 New
        24
        Quote: fzr1000
        We are building on our territory what we want

        Master barin)))))) ++++++++
        1. varov14
          varov14 7 November 2013 19: 27 New
          47
          And what is the concern, the radar is not even a weapon of defense, but just the eyes.
          1. Simon
            Simon 7 November 2013 20: 12 New
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            Apparently very good eyes, from which you can’t hide anything. So the Americans are afraid that during the attack, ours will quickly find their missiles and bring them down, and that’s the balance will be upset. lol
            1. Good Ukraine
              Good Ukraine 8 November 2013 02: 04 New
              36
              hi
              Quote: Simon
              Apparently very good eyes, from which you can’t hide anything. So the Americans are afraid


              They did not like these eyes very much after two "fallen" ballistic missiles in the Mediterranean Sea, launched at Syria. And the warlike tone changed to "peaceful chemical initiatives"
              Apparently the eyes not only look, but also launch anti-missiles.
              VERY GOOD STATIONS.
              Here is to put this back in Cuba (to combat pirates) to restore the balance of power.
              laughing
            2. kostyan77708
              kostyan77708 8 November 2013 07: 27 New
              +7
              and in response, something else will be pulled, for example)))
            3. cdrt
              cdrt 12 November 2013 11: 17 New
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              Quote: Simon
              Apparently very good eyes, from which you can’t hide anything. So the Americans are afraid that during the attack, ours will quickly find their missiles and bring them down, and that’s the balance will be upset. lol


              This is a common propaganda (aka informational) blow.
              And a year later in the eyes (and short memory) of the whole world - either the United States began the ABM race, or the Russian Federation.
              Like in a joke - either he stole or stole from him, but he will go on vacation in November.
          2. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 7 November 2013 20: 13 New
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            and if they see eyes, then even a fist can fly, or poplar
            1. Van
              Van 7 November 2013 22: 51 New
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              Quote: wasjasibirjac
              and if they see eyes, then even a fist can fly, or poplar


              Yeah, and poplars will all rest in peace ... laughing
            2. vell.65mail.ru
              vell.65mail.ru 7 November 2013 23: 08 New
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              It seems that: the owners hung serious locks on the door, and the thieves are indignant; it will be difficult to steal now, maybe we’ll tie the doors on the eyelet? hi
            3. Humen
              Humen 8 November 2013 09: 52 New
              +2
              No wonder they planted two poplars =) To remember.
              1. Andron59
                Andron59 12 November 2013 17: 27 New
                0
                For greater reliability, it would not be bad to send them a pair of Topol under their own power)))
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          3. Jin
            Jin 7 November 2013 20: 47 New
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            Quote: varov14
            And what is the concern, the radar is not even a weapon of defense, but just the eyes.


            Totally agree!


            "The Russians do not agree with the deployment of US anti-missile systems installed in Europe, but at the same time they themselves create a network of means for detecting a rocket attack," the publication quotes official publications from the United States.

            Ha ha! It's not funny (((What, for f * mnya, mlyn ?! We, then, are creating a radar, and their "anti-missile means" mean the basing of missiles together with a radar ... it somehow does not count or "fell asleep" this moment?

            All this blizzard is already so shabby, vulgar, hackneyed to holes, wretched and irrelevant, that they themselves (the mattresses) do not seem to believe in what they themselves believe ... even NATA allies.
            And of course, the fact that the Armavir radar "burned" the launch of missiles in the Mediterranean Sea, remember, I think, situevina? ... The freaks did not expect such a bone in the throat ... that is not! Not even in the throat, but in f * ck! And not a bone at all, but an organ of three simple Russian letters ... And again it smelled unpleasant from across the ocean ... Well, what can I say, colleagues ...
            1. Ramadan
              Ramadan 7 November 2013 21: 30 New
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              I think that the launch of their missiles in the Mediterranean was not "targets." Most likely it was a provocation to see the reaction. Firstly, will we notice these launches or not and how we will notice. And secondly, how will we react, whether we go to intercept or not, how the grouping of ships will react, etc.
          4. AVV
            AVV 8 November 2013 00: 26 New
            30
            Firstly, all of our radars are being built, on our national territory, and secondly, if they begin to screech, then we are doing everything right, we need to go further in this direction, thirdly, they don’t like YRS in this form, let's meet them and make them railway complex to be bursting with screeching !!!
            1. SOKOL777
              SOKOL777 14 November 2013 01: 26 New
              0
              A squeal is not enough ...
              Diarrhea, frequent, prolonged, fluid, debilitating, and so that the spine spills into the toilet ...
              1. ty60
                ty60 10 December 2016 22: 46 New
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                the late grandfather said, Three meters against the wind. Not counting the fine spray!
      2. DEfindER
        DEfindER 7 November 2013 18: 03 New
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        Quote: fzr1000
        In our territory, we want to build what we want, unlike the United States and its footcloths

        I agree. And in general, it is not entirely clear what has to do with our radar and their concern, if we are not going to intercept their missiles at the moment of launch, and intercepting it at the last stage of the flight is practically unrealistic, then our radars do not pose any threat to them. Now, if we had deployed our Voronezh on Cuba and also placed ICBM intercept missiles, which, by the way, are already doing next to us, then we can express concern ..
        1. NSG42
          NSG42 7 November 2013 19: 59 New
          14
          Why don't we do it?
        2. Pol
          Pol 7 November 2013 20: 22 New
          +8
          So they stink after 03.09. Remember ?: "The Russian missile attack warning system recorded the launch of two ballistic missiles in the Mediterranean Sea" ... When they launched a "target" type with Israel :-)
        3. Rif
          Rif 7 November 2013 21: 21 New
          11
          But shouldn't we, at B himself, Shakespeare, and really build "Voronezh" in Cuba?
          1. jjj
            jjj 8 November 2013 00: 50 New
            0
            Cuba is in an extremely unstable state. Let’s recall Lenin’s grandfather - the tops can no longer control in the old way, but the lower classes don’t want to. I think that in Cuba in the near future there will be a mess.
        4. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 14 November 2013 10: 13 New
          0
          Well, that's right. It is necessary to keep track of those adversaries who will provoke the flying Tu-160 "swans", otherwise, God forbid, Colombian planes twitch to intercept - and an international scandal cannot be avoided.
      3. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 8 November 2013 12: 30 New
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        Therefore, dear ones, it’s better not to express your “concerns”, but rather look for consensus with us on these issues. So said in his time the first and last president of the USSR, the unforgettable Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev.


        Here IT - shook!
        1. Tretyakov
          Tretyakov 8 November 2013 19: 53 New
          0
          Well duck with a black sheep - at least a tuft of wool! (this is about Gorbachev (I can’t write with a small letter, spelling does not allow!))
      4. GSH-18
        GSH-18 9 November 2013 20: 40 New
        +3
        Quote from the article: "Officials from the US Armed Forces said that a new missile defense (ABM) radar station in Armavir will increase the total number of Russian missile defense systems and poses a threat to America and Europe."
        I would like to ask, how the fuck is it ??? "Voronezh" is located in the depths of the territory of the Russian Federation! While the USA missile defense radar components are not even in America, but on another continent, at OUR borders! I wonder how loud the screeching of the State Department will reach if Voronezh is placed, say, in Cuba ??! AND? am
        1. edge
          edge 14 November 2013 15: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: GSH-18
          I wonder how loud the screeching of the State Department will reach if Voronezh is placed, say, in Cuba ??! AND?

          Venezuela, too, would not mind having such a miracle .... but it is fraught.
    2. Army1
      Army1 7 November 2013 17: 36 New
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      Quote: Brother
      The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

      And I do not like the American military! We're even!

      And I like it better that the radar for the protection of Russia from the direction where the United States does not even smell, except for the bases, represents, attention: US SECURITY THREAT.
      I propose not to challenge the fool- A.S. Pushkin.
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 7 November 2013 18: 33 New
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        Our government would continue to think less about how the West would like it, and more about the interests of its country and the needs of the people living in it.
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 7 November 2013 18: 54 New
          +6
          Two coverage maps of Russian early warning radar stations. I don’t know which one is more accurate.



          Scaled through the right mouse button ("open image")
          1. Nogicune
            Nogicune 7 November 2013 22: 30 New
            +6
            for complete happiness, there is not enough station on Sakhalin or the Kuril Islands
            1. SOKOL777
              SOKOL777 14 November 2013 01: 42 New
              0
              Better in Chukotka and in the north.
        2. bask
          bask 7 November 2013 20: 33 New
          +3
          [quote = Bad_gr] Our government would continue to think less about how the West would like it, and more about interests [/ quote]
          [quote =] US military does not like the Voronezh radar [/ Quote]

          AND BUILD A LONG DETECTION STATION IN CUBA.
          Let's see how the Americans will scream.

          "On October 17, 2001, at a meeting in the Russian Ministry of Defense, President Putin told the military that Russia is leaving its last military bases in the far abroad - in Cam Ranh (Vietnam) and Lourdes (Cuba)." Http://www.agentura.ru/ infrastructure / bases / russbases
          1. Onyx
            Onyx 7 November 2013 20: 39 New
            +5
            Quote: bask
            "On October 17, 2001, at a meeting at the Russian Defense Ministry, President Putin told the military that Russia is leaving its last military bases in the far abroad — in Cam Ranh (Vietnam) and Lourdes (Cuba).

            Then we were not up to bases in far abroad countries, the country almost fell apart. So this decision was then justified
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 9 November 2013 20: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Army1
        The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

        It would be strange if they liked him! laughing
    3. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 7 November 2013 18: 28 New
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      It's like a balm for the soul ..))) Every day I would read such events ...
    4. yurii p
      yurii p 7 November 2013 18: 49 New
      +6
      "And I don't like the American military! We are quits!" .... the wrong answer is "I don't like the very existence of the United States," at least as it is now.
    5. aleks222
      aleks222 7 November 2013 19: 06 New
      10
      I admire the endurance of our diplomats. As they generally talk with ami, I would spit in the face or give.
      1. Ramadan
        Ramadan 7 November 2013 21: 50 New
        +2
        That's why they are diplomats, so as not to beat the face, but to talk)))
        1. alexng
          alexng 7 November 2013 22: 37 New
          +4
          Quote: Ramazan
          That's why they are diplomats, so as not to beat the face, but to talk)))


          Nope! Do not talk, but verbally smear a star-striped chicken on the wall. And lately it’s not bad at them.
          1. Ramadan
            Ramadan 8 November 2013 22: 38 New
            0
            Well, this is a pun;)
    6. Grandson of Veteran
      Grandson of Veteran 7 November 2013 19: 18 New
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      "The American military does not like the Voronezh radar station
      And I don't like the American military! We're even!"
      We need to explain to them that just as the American missile defense system is not directed against Russia, so are our radars designed to monitor flocks of migratory birds in order to prevent a bird flu pandemic! Calm down, we are partners! laughing laughing bully
      1. Simon
        Simon 7 November 2013 20: 18 New
        +5
        So the Americans will generally get into a dead end in the negotiations, where does the bird flu? And we will say that he can mutate and go into rocket.
    7. bif
      bif 7 November 2013 21: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: Brother
      The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

      What does it have to do in Armavir, on the territory of the Russian Federation.
      It is necessary to build a pair of "Voronezh" on the territory of South America (Venezuela, Nicaragua, Cuba ... there is a great choice), then our partners will "sing".
      1. Antas
        Antas 7 November 2013 23: 47 New
        +1
        Indeed, Voronezh in Cuba could cover the entire Atlantic Ocean.
    8. timer
      timer 7 November 2013 23: 09 New
      +3
      Just add, I still don’t like democracy in American style. I really want to wish them, put it in your jo ....!
    9. mark021105
      mark021105 8 November 2013 02: 16 New
      +8
      “The Russians do not agree with the deployment of US missile defense systems installed in Europe, but at the same time they themselves create a network of means for detecting a missile attack”

      No, well, they are stupid in nature, as Zadornov said ...
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 9 November 2013 20: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: mark021105
        No, well, they are stupid in nature, as Zadornov said ...

        They are not stupid, just very arrogant and mow down for a fool! Only with the Russians it does not roll! angry
    10. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 8 November 2013 04: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Brother
      The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

      And I do not like the American military! We're even!


      I don’t like the Americans themselves ...
    11. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 8 November 2013 05: 55 New
      +2
      no, well, an interesting thing! don't like it, don't look! laughing
    12. 0251
      0251 8 November 2013 10: 21 New
      +1
      To all these "concerns" a simple question addressed to the United States - you can, but we can not? Since when, thinking about our safety, should we consult with foreign “partners”? Moreover, with those who sleep and see the picture of the encirclement of new Russia with military bases, as in the good old days of the Cold War.
      Therefore, dear ones, it’s better not to express your “concerns”, but rather seek consensus with us on these issues.







        
    13. Airman
      Airman 8 November 2013 11: 14 New
      +2
      This is precisely the radar that detected missile launches in the Mediterranean, and therefore does not like it. And would not have noticed, would have been silent in a rag.
      1. Onyx
        Onyx 8 November 2013 11: 17 New
        0
        Quote: Povshnik
        This is precisely the radar that detected missile launches in the Mediterranean, and therefore does not like it. And would not have noticed, would have been silent in a rag.

        Is such a radar capable of detecting missile launches?
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 9 November 2013 21: 01 New
          +2
          I think that if the amerskie warriors do not like Voronezh, then this is a cool radar station! good
    14. xan
      xan 8 November 2013 13: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: Brother
      The US military does not like the radar "Voronezh"

      And I do not like the American military! We're even!

      but I like what they don't like
    15. anatoly
      anatoly 8 November 2013 15: 37 New
      +3
      They got used to it. That the Russian leaders simply merged Russia, it’s Misha and Boriska. Who sold Russia, but no Russia will stand and still show some mother Kuskin to someone!
    16. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 13 November 2013 10: 11 New
      0
      We build what we want on our territory.
    17. SEM
      SEM 14 November 2013 12: 28 New
      0
      I propose the same VORONEZH radar in CUBA to INSTALL AS A GIFT AMERICA)))
  2. Stiletto
    Stiletto 7 November 2013 16: 45 New
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    What a grief, "Voronezh" America doesn’t like ... I like it, I don’t like it - bear with me, my beauty! As they say, endure - fall in love. The main thing is that the overseas "friends" do not like something else. good
    1. a52333
      a52333 7 November 2013 16: 49 New
      +9
      It’s good that it’s not a beauty contest - they would lose their voice.
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 7 November 2013 17: 09 New
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      Quote: Stiletto
      Like, don't like - be patient, my beauty!

      and I am "annoyed" by their immediate impudence ... we build on our territory and they are generally on another continent ... the difference, as they say, is obvious.
    3. skrgar
      skrgar 7 November 2013 17: 30 New
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      Quote: Stiletto
      What a grief, "Voronezh" America doesn’t like ... I like it, I don’t like it - bear with me, my beauty! As they say, endure - fall in love. The main thing is that the overseas "friends" do not like something else. good

      I say thank you to the US military !!! - Now I additionally know .. that we are going the right way !!!!)))
      1. Stiletto
        Stiletto 7 November 2013 17: 33 New
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        Judging by the statements of the Pentagon, America only likes to drum in the ass. And "Voronezh", you see, undermines the foundations of their democracy. Pichalko, however. We will deliver our condolences to Yarsami. It really delivers, the Pentagon should like it winked
    4. rolik
      rolik 7 November 2013 18: 00 New
      10
      The US military regarded missile defense radar in Armavir as destabilizing the balance of strategic forces.
      And the deployment of missile defense systems in Romania, this is probably probably the most stabilizing factor in Europe))))) But, indeed, the factor that will be very unnerving is when we put rockets in Cuba.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 7 November 2013 18: 21 New
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        Quote: rolik
        But, really, the factor that will be very unnerving is then, when we put missiles in Cuba.

        Yes, at least by analogy with the United States, we are setting up a radar in Venezuela against ... against ... the pirates of Somalia.
        1. rolik
          rolik 7 November 2013 18: 30 New
          +3
          Quote: Scoun
          . opposite .. the pirates of Somalia.

          Even better against Mujahideen penguins in Antarctica.
      2. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 7 November 2013 18: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: rolik
        But, indeed, the factor that will be very unnerving will be when we put rockets in Cuba.

        At least a Voronezh-type locator.
    5. Very old
      Very old 7 November 2013 18: 46 New
      +2
      But this is the Armavir radar like a needle in the seat - I don’t like it ...
      1. Aryan
        Aryan 7 November 2013 18: 51 New
        32
        let them watch from their satellite wassat
        1. egor 1712
          egor 1712 7 November 2013 20: 15 New
          +7
          I propose that the personnel in such a configuration move around for our foreign friends.
    6. Rus2012
      Rus2012 7 November 2013 19: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: Stiletto
      What a grief, "Voronezh" America doesn’t like ... I like it, I don’t like it - bear with me, my beauty! As they say, endure - fall in love. The main thing is that the overseas "friends" shouldn't like something else

      In general, plus everything, squeeze the radar requirements on the ship with the purpose of the SPRN. To make several pairs and drive along our mainland: along the Arctic Ocean (Northern Sea Route), the Pacific, Indian and Atlantic ... So for every fireman ... laughing
  3. Ihrek
    Ihrek 7 November 2013 16: 45 New
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    It’s good that they don’t like it, so everything is going well. We also have a lot that they did not like.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 7 November 2013 16: 58 New
      +5
      Apparently they really hoped that we won’t do anything (or we won’t) be able to wait for it to arrive.
  4. Ihrek
    Ihrek 7 November 2013 16: 45 New
    +3
    It’s good that they don’t like it, so we are doing everything right. We also have a lot that they did not like.
  5. andrei332809
    andrei332809 7 November 2013 16: 46 New
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    "The Pentagon has expressed concern over Moscow's missile defense activities."
    that’s ... and what should we do now? it’s necessary to somehow reassure those who are worried ... maybe they should give them a piece of paper, where will it be written that this is not against Amer’s missiles? request
    1. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 7 November 2013 17: 01 New
      +5
      To hell with them and not a piece of paper .... we will manage with words. And their problems will not believe. They are not flattered that we do not believe them.
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 7 November 2013 17: 14 New
        +5
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        To hell with them and not a piece of paper .... we will manage with words.

        yes let the deputies sign it. they are one hell the masters of their word, they themselves give, they themselves take belay
    2. skeptic
      skeptic 7 November 2013 17: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: andrei332809
      "The Pentagon has expressed concern over Moscow's missile defense activities."
      that’s ... and what should we do now? it’s necessary to somehow reassure those concerned ... maybe give them a piece of paper, where it will be written that this is not against Amer’s missiles? request


      And that. Our Voronezh against the Colombian mafia, in the end, they scattered like that, the poor Venezuelans were too tired to shoot them down, and suddenly they attack Russia and throw off their drugs on us. This is a serious topic, so Yarsy have to scare them away. crying
    3. maximus
      maximus 8 November 2013 12: 34 New
      0
      Quote: andrei332809
      "The Pentagon has expressed concern over Moscow's missile defense activities."

      Concerned, usually ending badly. They should have inserted Yars with a gonorrhea, and then don't hesitate to be treated! laughing
  6. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 7 November 2013 16: 47 New
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    ... Officials from the US Armed Forces said that the new missile defense radar (radar) station in Armavir increases the total number of Russian missile defense systems and poses a threat to the security of America and Europe ...

    What a joke ...
    laughing

    So they don’t like that our defense is improving.
    And that means that it is GOOD.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 7 November 2013 16: 52 New
      53
      Quote: Aleks tv
      In, joke ..
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 8 November 2013 13: 39 New
        +1
        And the client’s pleasure and benefit for us! Not an asymmetric, but anus response! That will satisfy the whale’s concern in full. I don’t like it, don’t eat, otherwise it’s all shit and shit (you better chew it) dear and anxious Yankees!
    2. whitewolf
      whitewolf 9 November 2013 00: 36 New
      0
      class !!!!!
  7. alekseinew
    alekseinew 7 November 2013 16: 50 New
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    I’ll say one thing, we are building complexes on our own land and they are on someone else’s, although they probably have long thought that Europe, in principle, is so purely a springboard for their pro and bases, well, in a conflict it will suffer first too, Poles, Romanians
    1. rolik
      rolik 7 November 2013 18: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: alekseinew
      , Poles, Romanians

      Well, these are necessary, in vain are the Iskanders next to them. Only now it will go not only to them, but also to the hero of the occasion. In addition to the military component, it will be possible to make economic Hiroshima. The main thing is to get the Central Bank out of under the government to pull out, and of course, quietly transfer the stabilization fund back.
      1. Tartary
        Tartary 8 November 2013 04: 53 New
        +4
        Quote: rolik
        The main thing is to get the Central Bank out of under the government to pull out, and of course, quietly transfer the stabilization fund back.

        You wanted to say: - The Central Bank under the Government DRAW !! But the Stabilization Fund must be spent by buying from them something we need, giving them their pieces of paper we do not need ...))
  8. mirag2
    mirag2 7 November 2013 16: 51 New
    +7
    And we like it.
    But we believe that missile defense in Europe is also shifting the balance of power.
  9. JonnyT
    JonnyT 7 November 2013 16: 51 New
    +7
    Concerned Pentagon wassat
    Most rams confused frara shameful)))

    They are terrified and jealous .... they sense the retribution for their sins will soon come
  10. Kizhich
    Kizhich 7 November 2013 16: 52 New
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    PRO - anti missile defense! And here the interests of Americans. Each country has the right to defense! You never know what I like, and what .... Yes, they went ...
  11. uizik
    uizik 7 November 2013 16: 53 New
    +5
    Can give them a guarantee that their Voronezh missiles will not be detected! Amers have signs of "constipation of thoughts"!
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 7 November 2013 18: 10 New
      0
      Quote: uizik
      Can give them a guarantee that their Voronezh missiles will not be detected! Amers have signs of "constipation of thoughts"!

      No, the main thing here is to clarify that the missiles flying to Russia "Voronezh" will not detect, but will detect missiles flying to Europe and the United States. We will warn them of attacks if we decide to commit them.
      In general, there is very little funny. There is a cold war initiated by the states.
  12. WIN969
    WIN969 7 November 2013 16: 54 New
    +5
    Omerecan idiocy has no aisle. fool
    1. Migari
      Migari 7 November 2013 17: 20 New
      +4
      Do not say,
      The Pentagon expressed concern about Moscow’s missile defense. On the one hand, she calls on the United States to disarm.
      They thought that we would clap our ears when they overlaid us with their missile defense along and across.
  13. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 7 November 2013 16: 56 New
    +2
    The Pentagon expressed concern about Moscow’s missile defense. On the one hand, it calls for the United States to disarm, and on the other, it actively strengthens its borders with anti-ballistic missile systems, writes The Washington Free Beacon.

    Maybe in Venezuela to put radar and missiles either in Cuba or Nicaragua, or better in all 3 countries, so that the Pentagon understands the difference between us and them. We put missile defense within the borders of our country. And not around the US.
  14. rJIiOK
    rJIiOK 7 November 2013 16: 56 New
    +4
    "Officials from the US Armed Forces said the new missile defense (ABM) radar station in Armavir increases the total number of Russian missile defense systems and poses a threat to the security of America and Europe."

    But "the American missile defense system in Europe in no way poses a threat to Russia, but is aimed exclusively at countering Iran and North Korea."
    1. kontrol
      kontrol 7 November 2013 20: 23 New
      0
      especially north korea
  15. Neighbor
    Neighbor 7 November 2013 16: 58 New
    +6
    Do not like it, do not woo me,
    here from their Obama turns.
  16. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 7 November 2013 16: 59 New
    +5
    And what...
    Do not like it, do not look towards this radar) it will not be closed, not a humpback at the helm.
  17. Vitya.
    Vitya. 7 November 2013 17: 01 New
    +2
    If Russia goes to the best one, then America presents its claims. She probably wants Russia to remain "Golay".
  18. Evgeny_Lev
    Evgeny_Lev 7 November 2013 17: 01 New
    +4
    And no one can recall that Russia, represented by its leadership and the Armed Forces, has ever "expressed concern" about the installation of missile defense components on the territory of the USA itself?
    I don’t remember that.

    Since our American partners have already expressed concern, whatever it was for nothing, I think, and rightly so, it makes sense to us to deploy something in Venezuela.

    - If there are no objections, then, Sergey Kuzhugetovich, please prepare the relevant proposals.
    Feisty V.V.
  19. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 7 November 2013 17: 02 New
    0
    If you only knew how sorry I am for the American in their concern. Sometimes there are situations when you need to come to terms. Here Americans need to come to terms and try to relax.
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 7 November 2013 17: 38 New
      +1
      ... they are our concern ... wassat
  20. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 7 November 2013 17: 02 New
    0
    And what...
    Do not like it, do not look towards this radar) it will not be closed, not a humpback at the helm.
  21. iulai
    iulai 7 November 2013 17: 02 New
    +3
    Soon they will have only pederasts in their troops, and the Russian armed forces should create companies or regiments of convicts in the troops. In case of war, there will be a meeting!
  22. Shaman 21101973
    Shaman 21101973 7 November 2013 17: 03 New
    +7
    The Cold War was not over with the collapse of the USSR. She continues. As America was a likely adversary, it remained ....
    Hence the conclusion ...With the prankster of the Great October Revolution, dear forum users ..
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  24. Stinger
    Stinger 7 November 2013 17: 04 New
    +1
    It should also be added, for persuasiveness, that "these insidious Russians forced the meek United States to withdraw from the ABM treaty by force." We sleep with her, and she sends us gonorrhea! Hypocrisy is the second happiness.
  25. aepocmam
    aepocmam 7 November 2013 17: 05 New
    +3
    The Americans should not be convinced of what they accuse us of. All their accusations must be answered briefly and concisely - our radar station (or whatever else may become a matter of concern to the Americans) is not directed against the United States and other NATO countries and does not upset the balance of forces in the region (or the world). The main thing is that in no case do not make excuses and not give any counter arguments and arguments - nothing.
    1. vadson
      vadson 7 November 2013 17: 57 New
      +3
      Duc, if Putin didn’t notice it and says it, he calls the whole west our partners. does not give them a reason to call us once again the axis of evil. they themselves in the 90s shouted that we are now partners
  26. aepocmam
    aepocmam 7 November 2013 17: 05 New
    0
    The Americans should not be convinced of what they accuse us of. All their accusations must be answered briefly and concisely - our radar station (or whatever else may become a matter of concern to the Americans) is not directed against the United States and other NATO countries and does not upset the balance of forces in the region (or the world). The main thing is that in no case do not make excuses and not give any counter arguments and arguments - nothing.
  27. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 7 November 2013 17: 06 New
    14
    This audience, in their game of their own a priori sinlessness and our a priori sinfulness, has already played out to absolute idiocy, only they are not visible.
    I have a familiar Finn, he is also a retired officer, only the Finnish army. We have a joint business. A wonderful man, but with the same dislocation of the brain.
    He will see the news that in Russia, for example, West 2013 exercises were held. He immediately asks me how this is possible, it's almost aggression. This is where the exercises of NATO and the Nordic countries Steadfast Jazz 2013 begin, one asks, this is aggression. He answered, no, this is a normal planned study of the troops. The question is, do you see any contradictions? The answer is no, I do not see. Russia is an aggressor, and NATO and the Nordic countries are peaceful democracies that must be protected from the aggressor. Bullshit, but nothing to prove. fool
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 7 November 2013 17: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: Peaceful military
      Bullshit, but nothing to prove

      and have not tried to use the proof that is used when the opponent "does not catch up"? in a nickle. it is very democratic, especially the last 20 years angry
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 7 November 2013 17: 26 New
        +4
        Quote: andrei332809
        Quote: Peaceful military
        Bullshit, but nothing to prove

        and have not tried to use the proof that is used when the opponent "does not catch up"? in a nickle. it is very democratic, especially the last 20 years angry

        I said that we have a common cause and that he’s a wonderful man ... After all, for sure, I, like any normal person, have their own characters, which are clearly visible from the outside, but are absolutely not visible to the owner. smile
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 7 November 2013 17: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: Peaceful military
          have your own bziki

          and where without them then ... but the examples of democratization in Amer’s style, apparently, do not convince him ... ndaaaa, a bad case drinks
          1. Peaceful military
            Peaceful military 7 November 2013 17: 59 New
            +3
            Quote: andrei332809
            Quote: Peaceful military
            have your own bziki

            and where without them then ... but the examples of democratization in Amer’s style, apparently, do not convince him ... ndaaaa, a bad case drinks

            Like any Finn, he likes to sting. laughing
            HAPPY HOLIDAY! drinks
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  29. Russ69
    Russ69 7 November 2013 17: 06 New
    +9
    It is normal to store nuclear weapons in Europe and Japan ... Building a missile defense along the borders of Russia and on foreign territory is normal ...
    Installing missile defense in Alaska is fine ...
    But if, Russia establishes a tracking station on its own territory, then immediately the guard ...
    But they would not have gone, according to a well-known adrem, with their statements ...
  30. lotar
    lotar 7 November 2013 17: 08 New
    +1
    Another question of double standards is to see what is happening with the neighbors and turn a blind eye to what is happening at home.
  31. Onyx
    Onyx 7 November 2013 17: 09 New
    12
    The US military is also concerned about the creation of the Russian PC-24 “Yars” rocket, which was tested in September of this year. In their opinion, the test results speak of it as a medium-range missile. This violates the agreement between the USSR and the USA on 1987 on the elimination of such missiles. However, the Russian side claims that the range of the Yars (more than 5500 km) exceeds that of medium-range missiles and cannot be considered as a breach of contract.

    What Yars? Yars is an ICBM and no one argues with that. Probably, this means a complex, the chassis for which was recently demonstrated in Minsk:


    Well, this is a medium-range complex and Russia will soon withdraw from the INF Treaty ban treaty.
    1. egor 1712
      egor 1712 7 November 2013 20: 22 New
      +3
      It is called "Frontier". Such a mega "Iskander".
    2. SPACE
      SPACE 7 November 2013 21: 06 New
      +4
      Quote: Onyx
      What Yars? Yars is an ICBM and no one argues with that. Probably, this means a complex, the chassis for which was recently demonstrated in Minsk:

      Apparently, the Belarusians have already withdrawn from the INF Treaty laughing business for small, in such a frame to insert the correct diamond, a couple of three kilotons.
      1. Onyx
        Onyx 7 November 2013 21: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: SPACE
        Apparently, the Belarusians have already withdrawn from the INF Treaty laughing business for small, in such a frame to insert the correct diamond, a couple of three kilotons.

        Previously, at the Pioneers stood 3 blocks with a capacity of 150 ct. I think the new RSD will be significantly more accurate and the power can be reduced. But if the task is to defeat highly protected targets, then the power is unlikely to be greatly reduced
        1. Evgenij.
          Evgenij. 10 November 2013 18: 57 New
          0
          Why reduce it? Well, it’ll hit the bull's eye. Why is the charge weaker? Do we have enough uranium?
  32. Bigriver
    Bigriver 7 November 2013 17: 10 New
    11
    Not .., the Americans and I will never compare in the ability to twist and distort the essence of the matter.
    In reality, people have neither conscience nor honor.
    1. Shaman 21101973
      Shaman 21101973 7 November 2013 17: 16 New
      +1
      Double Standards Policy ...
    2. Evgenij.
      Evgenij. 10 November 2013 18: 58 New
      0
      In reality, people have neither conscience nor honor.
      Do they know these words, their essence?
  33. RUSS
    RUSS 7 November 2013 17: 12 New
    +4
    One of the two, either the Americans are really stupid, or "mow" like fools, declaring concerns about the radar station in Russia.
    1. mithridate
      mithridate 7 November 2013 20: 33 New
      +2
      maybe super impudence?
  34. Homeless
    Homeless 7 November 2013 17: 13 New
    +5
    Think about how perverse logic the Americans have, they put anti-missile defense systems at our borders and convince us that it is not directed against Russia, and when Russia erects missile attack early warning radar systems on its territory, it outrages them! Russia dismissed them with its inaction, it's time to put them in their place!
  35. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 7 November 2013 17: 15 New
    +5
    U.S. Armed Forces officials said the new missile defense radar (radar) station in Armavir is increasing the total number of Russian missile defense systems and threatening the security of America and Europe. - Americans have no logical thinking. Those. we threaten them by defending ourselves in an attack! laughing
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 7 November 2013 17: 42 New
      +2
      Apparently - defense is also an attack. Whom to whom is not important. The main thing is to express indignation. They can’t do anything else
      1. Evgenij.
        Evgenij. 10 November 2013 18: 59 New
        0
        Apparently - defense is also an attack
        Everyone has a ministry of defense, no ministries of attack
  36. Maverick78
    Maverick78 7 November 2013 17: 17 New
    21
    I am not happy with the existence of the US state in its current form) I express extreme concern about this.
  37. individual
    individual 7 November 2013 17: 19 New
    +4
    I like too
    And we do not offer it to them as a product.
    We install Voronezh radar products as a countermeasure to their wishes.
  38. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 7 November 2013 17: 19 New
    +2
    Do not like the Americans? These are their problems ... and we ... will continue the construction.
  39. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 7 November 2013 17: 21 New
    +4
    Some Americans carry nonsense!

    I quote: Officials of the US Armed Forces said that the new missile defense radar (radar) in Armavir increases the total number of Russian missile defense systems and poses a threat to the security of America and Europe.


    Question: What have they got in their brains? Or bigmack ate a second freshness?

    How can a radar threaten the US? Does she fly at the speed of hypersound? Or waves loosens the brains of the valiant NATO-US soldiers? Unclear.


    They themselves plant a real missile defense system: they test rockets, Ajis rivet ...


    Double standards...
    1. VOLCHOXURAL
      VOLCHOXURAL 7 November 2013 18: 12 New
      +4
      Question: What have they got in their brains? Or bigmack ate a second freshness?

      How can a radar threaten the US? Does she fly at the speed of hypersound? Or waves loosens the brains of the valiant NATO-US soldiers? Unclear.
      No, it's not bigmack! This is probably a new batch of select Colombian tested! wassat So they began to imagine all sorts of threatening radar missile defense systems! laughing More intercontinental ballistic balalaikas, and another particularly dangerous type of psychological weapon - disguised as Russian dolls - Russian dolls !!! wassat laughing
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      2. kaktus
        kaktus 10 November 2013 17: 57 New
        0
        And at home, draining the gas and cooling the reactor,
        said our team leader, as if by chance,
        that in the case of another similar provocation
        instead of a tractor, we will release a COMBINE on the field! laughing
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 7 November 2013 18: 55 New
      13
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Some Americans carry nonsense!

      On the one hand - yes! But on the other (American!) Side ...
      Americans are telling the truth: deployment of high-readiness radars of the Voronezh DM type are of great concern to them, but not because of the growing threat to US and European security. Not at all! The reason is different: Cried THEM (DOLLARS) MONEY! I will explain my thought.
      The Yankees developed the concept of a preemptive global strike. Everyone has calculated, they are developing hypersonic weapons for it ... And on you: new variables for the radar field, which previously did not exist! Voronezh, it turns out, perfectly sees the start of the 2's BR in the Sea of ​​Armavir. And all the plans for smarka! Under such conditions, the number of missiles breaking through to the targets does not work. And the press leaked infa that Russia is going to place such radars every 1000 km on the border perimeter. And how, under such conditions, to fulfill the task of a disarming strike? (Again, these Russians lowered them to their grandmothers.)
      But there is the other side of the coin. The myth says that Archimedes burned the Roman fleet with the help of mirrors and sunbeams. Now imagine the FAR "Voronezh", focused at one point and sent there an EMP with a capacity of N-megawat! I don’t know how metal is, but electronics and all living things will definitely not survive this. So much for the asymmetric response to the many-billion-dollar attempts of advocates of democracy.
      So, there is something to be saddened by the Yankees. Therefore, their impotent malice under the changed conditions of the attack on the Russian Federation results in a similar PR campaign.
      Well, for their European lackeys, there is P-24, on the approach of P-26, at worst Iskandyr-M. By the way, the infrastructure for their base in the region. already under construction. This is a word.
      1. Onyx
        Onyx 7 November 2013 19: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        And the press leaked infa that Russia is going to place along the perimeter of the border, every 1000 km, such radars

        Most likely, this is a duck, since there is no expediency in this. Stations will work with an overlap and all
    3. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 7 November 2013 20: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      waves loosens brains of valiant NATO-US soldiers

      - and what, the idea! laughing
  40. ReifA
    ReifA 7 November 2013 17: 22 New
    +2
    This is a brainwashing for Eurogays, Russia is preparing aggression again, you urgently need abrams, efs, radars and patriots.
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 7 November 2013 17: 46 New
      +1
      Judging by the latest news - Used. They have nowhere to put their trash - and they shove someone inappropriately. And scary stories come up about Russian bears. Like, wih even the prime minister with the same name! Be afraid ...
  41. kafa
    kafa 7 November 2013 17: 25 New
    +2
    The US military regarded missile defense radar in Armavir as destabilizing the balance of strategic forces.

    forgot to ask lol
  42. Alikovo
    Alikovo 7 November 2013 17: 25 New
    +1
    America as a state disgusts me.
  43. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 7 November 2013 17: 30 New
    +1
    GDP said something about ISKANDERS in the Kaliningrad region, if our overseas acquaintances began to place something in Poland. So they already started.
  44. Migari
    Migari 7 November 2013 17: 30 New
    12
    Russia is creating a single radar field along the country's borders. The transfer of the Kaliningrad SPRN radar from experimental combat duty to combat is scheduled for late 2014. And the station itself controls a sector that includes the northern part of Africa, the entire Mediterranean Sea and the northern part of the Atlantic Ocean, including the patrol areas of US nuclear submarines "Ohio" with strategic missiles on board. Within a radius of 6 thousand km on the surface of the Earth and 8 thousand km in space. Our country has similar high-readiness stations in Armavir, near St. Petersburg, in Lekhtusi (it is already on combat duty) and near Usolye-Sibirsky, near Irkutsk, in the village of Michelevka (the first phase is on experimental combat duty, the second is under construction) . Still in Russia, there are SPRN radars on the Kola Peninsula, in Olenegorsk (Dniester-M and Daryal), in the Komi Republic, the city of Pechora (Daryal), in the Belarusian Gantsevichi ("Volga"), in Kazakhstan, on Balkhash (Dnipro and Dniester). Rejoice pinds.sy.
    1. hans
      hans 8 November 2013 18: 42 New
      +1
      It’s still under construction near the Yeniseisk (Krasnoyarsk kr.). In the 90s, under pressure from the United States, they completed the Shapkinskaya radar almost in the same place, I think they’ll build a modern one now! Enlighten someone, about 2 launched missiles in the Mediterranean! a little behind, I don’t understand what fuss is about!
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 8 November 2013 18: 47 New
        0
        Moscow, September 3 - AIF-Moscow. The Russian missile attack warning system (SPRN) on Tuesday morning recorded the start of two ballistic targets in the Mediterranean, RIA Novosti reported.

        As it became known, the launch was fixed at 10.16 Moscow time by the combat crew of a separate radio-technical center of the SPRN in Armavir. The flight path is directed to the eastern part of the Mediterranean coast.

        The head of the Ministry of Defense Sergey Shoigu immediately reported the launch of the missiles to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Initially, the Russian Ministry of Defense identified these missiles as ballistic, but after a while the Israeli Defense Ministry reported that the missile launches were tested by Israeli targets for missile defense systems and were carried out jointly with the United States.
  45. Freelancer7
    Freelancer7 7 November 2013 17: 38 New
    +1
    Logic is often broken, a causal relationship for them does not exist. And they sacredly believe that the rod. In my opinion, such behavior can be attributed only to psychos.
  46. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 7 November 2013 17: 38 New
    0
    If you squeal, then this is a good sign.
  47. Evil rabbit
    Evil rabbit 7 November 2013 17: 41 New
    0
    Quote: aepocmam
    The Americans should not be convinced of what they accuse us of. All their accusations must be answered briefly and concisely - our radar station (or whatever else may become a matter of concern to the Americans) is not directed against the United States and other NATO countries and does not upset the balance of forces in the region (or the world). The main thing is that in no case do not make excuses and not give any counter arguments and arguments - nothing.

    ... and at the same time it is possible to confirm with legal guarantees that the radar is not aimed at the USA and NATO
  48. slovak007
    slovak007 7 November 2013 17: 42 New
    +2
    Yes, they went to hell ...
  49. Migari
    Migari 7 November 2013 17: 44 New
    +6
    Radar SPRN 77Ya6-DM "Voronezh-DM" in Armavir, the photo shows both radar units.
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