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America went to sea

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5 November 2013 of the year without much publicity went into the sea on the factory running tests completed by the construction for the US Navy, the universal landing ship (UDC) of a new type of LHA 6 America. The ship was built at the American shipbuilding enterprise Ingalls Shipbuilding Corporation Huntington Ingalls Industries in Pascagoula (Mississippi).


The contract for the construction of LHA 6 America was issued on 1 on June 2007 of the year, the actual construction of the ship in Pascagoula was launched in December on 2008 of the year, and the official bookmark ceremony was made on 17 on July of 2009. UDC was launched on June 4 2012 of the year. The construction is facing delays, including due to the constant changes made to the project, so the ship’s initial deadline (August 2012 of the year) was postponed first to 2013, and now to the 2014 fiscal year. The total cost of the design and construction of the lead ship is 6,8 billion dollars, including 3,4 billion dollars - the actual cost of construction.

31 in May 2012, the corporation Huntington Ingalls Industries won the US Navy contract worth 2,38 billion for the construction of the second LHA 7 Tripoli of the same type, which will also be carried out at the Ingalls Shipbuilding in Pascagoula. The official bookmark Tripoli was scheduled for April 2013, but so far it has not taken place. The transfer of the US Navy Tripoli is scheduled for the 2018 fiscal year.

In total, the US Navy plans to build an UDC 11 type LHA 6. A feature of the first ships of the type LHA 6 (Flight 0 series) is the lack of a dock camera, which was available on the two previous types of UDC (Tarawa and Wasp). On the following ships of type America, the dock camera will apparently be restored.





Universal landing ship LHA 6 America goes to sea on factory running trials
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  2. WIN969
    WIN969 7 November 2013 16: 41
    17
    From where they take the money for all this, or they still go negative, and hope that the debt will be written off.
    1. Siberian German
      Siberian German 7 November 2013 16: 54
      17
      they print and don’t really mess up, unlike our top, so the papers turn into the final product, and we pump the oil first and then do something (we steal, for example, budget money)
      1. bolonenkov
        bolonenkov 7 November 2013 17: 47
        12
        Quote: Siberian German
        stealing for example budget money

        You're talking about the United States, aren't you? Or you don’t know that the budget cut there is put on stream, and our embezzlers, which in principle does not justify them, are simple puppies compared to senators and their puppeteers.
        1. Siberian German
          Siberian German 7 November 2013 20: 21
          +7
          they steal from the rich - and ours steal their people and their descendants
          1. timer
            timer 7 November 2013 23: 21
            +1
            I agree with the comment 100%
          2. loft79
            loft79 8 November 2013 07: 07
            +4
            I immediately remembered Zhvanetsky:
            "What do you steal from a loss - steal from a profit"
        2. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac 7 November 2013 20: 31
          +3
          Quote: bolonenkov
          You're talking about the United States, aren't you? Or you don’t know that the budget cut there is put on stream, and our embezzlers, which in principle does not justify them, are simple puppies compared to senators and their puppeteers.

          I basically purple, as the Americans are sawing their budget, it infuriates me that our embezzlers steal what I myself pay and all our people, the Russian budget.
          1. viktorR
            viktorR 7 November 2013 21: 08
            +2
            The article is not about our gains)
        3. Rus2012
          Rus2012 7 November 2013 21: 14
          0
          Quote: bolonenkov
          You're talking about the United States, aren't you? Or you don’t know that the budget cut there is put on stream, and our embezzlers, which in principle does not justify them, are simple puppies compared to senators and their puppeteers.

          Look at the root !!!
          In addition, we adopted their business model with all the drawbacks - flight, corruption and all other metostases too!
          So when their avalanche screams in Germany, he has grown up, you need to mean their dear cut ...
          Which, however, does not correct the weather. In order to incorruptible sovereign people, as in China, without words to the wall, putting and brushing their foreheads with brilliant green ...
        4. Papakiko
          Papakiko 7 November 2013 22: 20
          +2
          Quote: bolonenkov
          you don’t know that the budget cut there is put on stream, and our embezzlers, which in principle does not justify them, are simple puppies compared to senators and their puppeteers.

          Our smart students.
          And in that time there was a wellcome and the epic launch of the "Zumvolt"

          I hope our treasury will be able to (learn, be able to) at least half to do from overseas saw cutters.
        5. tomket
          tomket 7 November 2013 23: 10
          0
          well, let them steal, then if they steal, then where does the money for the fleet come from ???? according to your logic, then every day battleships should descend into the water, since our treasuries are puppies compared to their senators.
          1. Onyx
            Onyx 7 November 2013 23: 24
            +2
            Quote: tomket
            well, let them steal, then if they steal, then where does the money for the fleet come from ????

            Good question. Almost the whole world (and you personally) gives them money free of charge, and we must earn it. That’s the whole difference. If you want to dive in more detail into the system under which such a strange turn of money occurs in nature, I can help you
          2. bif
            bif 7 November 2013 23: 34
            +1
            Quote: tomket
            well, let them steal, then if they steal, then where does the money for the fleet come from ???? according to your logic, then every day battleships should descend into the water, since our treasuries are puppies compared to their senators.

            America lives in unlimited credit from the whole world, "easy" money is easily "assimilated", the Russian Federation lives on its earned money, therefore it is difficult to scam at such amounts ... and I hope someone is ashamed.
        6. Versed
          Versed 8 November 2013 00: 00
          -9
          The budget cut has been put on stream exclusively in Russia and Africa - one level of development.

          in the States, they earn and spend money as directed
          1. Onyx
            Onyx 8 November 2013 00: 25
            +2
            Quote: Versed
            The budget cut has been put on stream exclusively in Russia and Africa - one level of development.

            in the States, they earn and spend money as directed

            Everyone knows how they "earn" except you, apparently. In general, yes, gentlemen work, they print money "by the sweat of their brow."
            1. Versed
              Versed 8 November 2013 00: 38
              -3
              I realized that you do not know, now you will know. lol

              Among the developed countries of the world (and Russia does not apply to developed countries)The USA has no competitors in its industrial development.

              The United States has one of the most highly efficient households in the world. A distinctive feature of their economy is the focus on scientific and technical progress (scientific and technological progress) and advanced technology.

              The USA is a leader in the implementation of the results of scientific and technical progress in production, in the export of licenses for its discoveries, inventions and the latest developments. All this leads to the dependence of other countries on the United States.

              Now you know how the US makes moneyи laughing
              1. Onyx
                Onyx 8 November 2013 00: 51
                +4
                And what is the United States constantly raising the ceiling of public debt in such a developed economy? Industrial development - is it when all production, except military, is in Asia? The United States simply parasitizes on the almost monopoly position of the dollar in international payments and reserves. Let's see what parameters the States will lead when they lose the opportunity to export their main export product - the dollar laughing
      2. killganoff
        killganoff 7 November 2013 19: 52
        15
        No, we are changing our resources (oil, gas, rare earth metals, etc.) to paper printed by the Americans. Something in the spirit of the Papuans exchanging gold for glass beads.
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        1. atalef
          atalef 7 November 2013 21: 43
          0
          Quote: Heccrbq .2
          When will we live in Russia? Maybe everyone will open their own personal 41 year, corruption, migrants, embezzlers, and just louts,because we, normal people are many times more, if we unite, we will crush them like flies!!!

          As my good friend said
          We are intellectuals, whose culture we will also take away ......... (using, of course, a more colorful word)
      4. Nick
        Nick 7 November 2013 21: 50
        +2
        Quote: Siberian German
        print and are not particularly obscured, unlike our top, so the papers turn into the final product,


        The United States is the issuer of the dollar; it, in turn, is a global means of payment. Printing paper, America exports its inflation to the outside, receiving resources in return. If our elite will act in this way, then in addition to hyperinflation and the imbalance of the financial system, we will not receive any dividends, especially no external resources ... That's something like that ...
    2. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 7 November 2013 17: 11
      +3
      Quote: WIN969
      and hope that the debt is written off.

      World war and the creation of a new state.
    3. Army1
      Army1 7 November 2013 17: 22
      +2
      Well, with aircraft carriers it’s understandable, but UDC and in the amount of 11 pieces, in my opinion a real cut, well, let it be 5 but not 11 in a crisis. And why are they needed ??? Who will land such forces, and where and how much.
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 7 November 2013 17: 27
        +3
        From where they take the money for all this, or they still go negative, and hope that the debt will be written off.
        They don't hope - they know it for sure! Who! dare to demand from the "navel of the earth"? Nobody ... angry
      2. Thirteenth
        Thirteenth 7 November 2013 17: 31
        +5
        US foreign debt 17 trillion $, municipal reaches 70 trillion. US Navy plans to build 11 UDC type LHA 6. belay
        1. vahatak
          vahatak 7 November 2013 17: 52
          +2
          Quote: Thirteenth
          US foreign debt of $ 17 trillion; municipal debt reaches 70 trillion.

          And 11 ships will cost no more than 50 billion. This is a drop in the bucket. When rounding these 50 billion nobody even notices.
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 7 November 2013 18: 44
          +2
          Quote: Thirteenth
          US foreign debt 17 trillion $, municipal reaches 70 trillion. US Navy plans to build 11 UDC type LHA 6. belay

          Well, the Fed will be declared bankrupt.
          1. My address
            My address 7 November 2013 19: 47
            +2
            This is the Fed who wants to bankrupt. Or who they say.
          2. saturn.mmm
            saturn.mmm 7 November 2013 20: 02
            +3
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Well, the Fed will be declared bankrupt.

            Do not comprehend anyone but the Fed.
      3. avt
        avt 7 November 2013 17: 57
        +7
        Quote: Army1
        but UDC and in the amount of 11 pieces, in my opinion a real cut, well, let it be 5 but not 11 in a crisis. And why are they needed ??? Who will land such forces, and where and how much.

        Weird question . The main full-fledged formation of their Marine Corps is a division, they have, well, at the time it was, also the concept of an expeditionary division, a brigade and a battalion. It is for them that ships are built to raise, deliver and disembark, in full - an expeditionary division at a minimum - an expeditionary battalion, of course with personal belongings. Another thing is surprising - the absence of a docking camera, in fact, a step back, well, when they had the Iwo Jima landing helicopter carriers, which were replaced by the Tarawa UDC. Looks like they saved, since the next full-fledged ones are going to do. Knowing not only our fun to scoff at the construction of the project, as in "Ivan Gren", these can also =============, Construction is facing delays , including due to constant changes made to the project, so the initial date of delivery of the ship (August 2012) was first moved to 2013, and now to the 2014 financial year. "=========== = Although they are far from our "records".
        1. My address
          My address 7 November 2013 20: 06
          +3
          Likely for fast disembarkation on envelopes.
          It is sad that similar for the construction of tons (more than 20 000) left in Nikolaev. And this stitsuk EBN monument in Eburg is guarded and just subscribe to it, no, no.
      4. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 7 November 2013 21: 04
        +4
        Quote: Army1
        And why are they needed ??? Who will land such forces, and where and how much.

        These are ships for the USMC. Everyone, apparently, will raise a battalion with equipment. In addition, it will perfectly accommodate the F-35, by that time brought to mind. So much for air support and air cover. Optimal. Their death is "in the egg", that is, in the underwater environment. Therefore, they will not walk without cover. Well, but for our plARK better goals and difficult to come up with.
      5. tomket
        tomket 7 November 2013 23: 13
        0
        count how many rods they have now, so many will build to replace
    4. lelikas
      lelikas 7 November 2013 17: 35
      +6
      The main thing is not that, they have no cries about the fact-why the heck is the Mistral to us. Build and do not worry about anything, infections.
    5. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 7 November 2013 20: 00
      +2
      Quote: WIN969
      From where do they get the money for all this

      They donate free of charge to the Chinese, Japanese, and Russians, plus the European Union.
    6. varov14
      varov14 7 November 2013 20: 58
      +1
      So we store money there for a rainy day, well, and they build a rainy day for this money for us
    7. Rus2012
      Rus2012 7 November 2013 21: 07
      +1
      Quote: WIN969
      From where they take the money for all this, or they still go negative, and hope that the debt will be written off.

      The mechanism here is very simple, after the 2th MV, they agreed to serve the financial turnover of the whole world with their dollars. Gradually, everything came down to printing simple candy wrappers, which were not provided with anything but words and military force. Well, even if they take 5% for servicing the entire turnover, there are a lot of things you can configure for this. At the expense of uncle, us, you and others like them ...
    8. timer
      timer 7 November 2013 23: 20
      0
      And the money is taken from the Fed, the candy wrapper spanks, probably around the clock. And the fact that they increase the debt seems like a drum. Probably hope for a new world war, because it will write everything off. These ghouls are so well arranged (juices from the countries of the planet) through their dollar -fantik, that they do lawlessness! It’s a pity that Russia is still weak, and it does not have groups of loyal partners (like the Warsaw pact).
    9. AVV
      AVV 8 November 2013 00: 41
      0
      The printing press is always at hand, so they make a fool of the whole world, and the states are in constant war, so that no one would have a desire to ask about debts !!! Yes, there is a desire for debts to be written off, but they still haven’t come up with and provoke the 3rd world so that debts are forgiven by themselves, there is a desire, but there are no opportunities, because yourself will suffer very seriously !!! That scratch the head !!!
    10. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 8 November 2013 04: 51
      0
      Quote: WIN969
      From where they take the money for all this, or they still go negative, and hope that the debt will be written off.


      Saw the budget.
    11. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 8 November 2013 06: 07
      +1
      it looks like Serdyukov "Mistral" vparil them! smile
  3. Ihrek
    Ihrek 7 November 2013 16: 42
    +2
    I think our defense industry will take this fact into account.
    1. varov14
      varov14 7 November 2013 21: 03
      0
      It may and will take into account, only the printing press is apparently not from the state, and foreign states do not store their money in our banks.
  4. Stiletto
    Stiletto 7 November 2013 16: 46
    12
    Well then. Seven feet of this vessel ... OVER KILEM.
    1. ka5280
      ka5280 7 November 2013 17: 34
      0
      This is his draft in a dry ballast of about 2.13 m
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    3. 10kAzAk01
      10kAzAk01 7 November 2013 19: 22
      +2
      it would be more correct to say over the klotik!
  5. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 7 November 2013 16: 47
    +6
    "... without much publicity went to sea ..."
    Das ist nicht gut ...
    However, in the future, the presence of 11 landing ships from the enemy determines their plans.
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 7 November 2013 17: 28
      +3
      "... without much publicity went to sea ..."
      Schaub would sink if he did - and no one really knew ... laughing
  6. vkrav
    vkrav 7 November 2013 16: 50
    +1
    The traditional naval wish - to a big ship - is a big torpedo! However, it may not be necessary, taking into account operating costs and the state of the local economy ... Yes, and it would be advisable to get acquainted with the parameters ...
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 7 November 2013 17: 29
      +3
      Parameters ? The vessel is long, it means ... 3 torpedoes quite fit on one side. wink
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 7 November 2013 19: 27
        +1
        Quote: Starover_Z
        Parameters ? The vessel is long, it means ... 3 torpedoes quite fit on one side

        Looked TTX - this is the trough! He needs cover no less than with AUG.
        Performance characteristics
        Length (m): 257,3
        Width (m): 32,3
        Displacement (tons): 45000 (standard)
        Displacement (tons): 50000 (full)
        Speed ​​(knots): 22
        Cruising range (miles): 9500
        Crew: 1059 + 1687 landing
        Armament
        Aircraft: 22
        Air Defense Systems: 3 Volcano MK.15
        Air Defense Systems: 3 RAM
        Machine guns: 7 12,7 mm
        UVP (cells): 2 MK48
        1. ka5280
          ka5280 7 November 2013 19: 47
          +4
          I think that they are all 11, together with the AUG and will go, to instill democracy in the squadron.
    2. Versed
      Versed 8 November 2013 00: 04
      -2
      And what is the situation there (the best in the world) of the economy ??? lol

      The parameters of this ship are as follows - Russia cannot build such a ship, no technology
      1. Onyx
        Onyx 8 November 2013 00: 28
        0
        Quote: Versed
        And what is the situation there (the best in the world) of the economy ???

        The best in the world ??? This is when you need to organize a global war every 50 years to restart printing blank paper?
        Quote: Versed
        The parameters of this ship are as follows - Russia cannot build such a ship, no technology

        What specific technologies for building such ships do not have in Russia?
        1. Versed
          Versed 8 November 2013 00: 51
          -4
          Russia is printing "paper" that nobody needs, and US money - you need to remember how 2 + 2 = 4 and no longer write such nonsense laughing

          What technologies? those that are needed to build such an aircraft carrier (a universal amphibious assault ship of the "America" ​​type)

          Russia has been buying ships from the Americans since tsarist times. The cruiser Varyag (which does not surrender to the enemy) was built in the USA.
          1. Onyx
            Onyx 8 November 2013 01: 00
            +2
            Russia prints the "paper" that no one needs, and the US prints money - you need to remember this as 2 + 2 = 4 and no longer write such nonsense laughing

            Well, where did I write that nobody needs a dollar? I wrote that he is not provided with anything, i.e. empty. You need to remember how 2 + 2 = 4 and no longer write such nonsense laughing
            Quote: Versed
            those that are needed to build a similar aircraft carrier (a universal amphibious assault ship of the "America" ​​type)

            It is logical, but nevertheless more specific, which technologies are not available in Russia? What is the UDC unique? What is the peculiarity of their construction, in difference, say, from the construction of destroyers or cruisers?
          2. Alex 241
            Alex 241 8 November 2013 01: 09
            +1
            Quote: Versed
            Russia prints the "paper" that nobody needs, and the US prints money - you need to remember this as 2 + 2 = 4 and no longer write such nonsense

            What technologies? those that are needed to build such an aircraft carrier (a universal amphibious assault ship of the "America" ​​type)

            Russia has been buying ships from the Americans since tsarist times. The cruiser Varyag (which does not surrender to the enemy) was built in the USA.
            Not for you to teach anyone here. With a well-deserved award, by the way.
          3. Alex 241
            Alex 241 8 November 2013 01: 28
            0
            Quote: Versed
            ... Cruiser "Varyag" (which does not surrender to the enemy) b
            In vain, you pulled your tongue out in vain. There the sailors didn’t lower the flag. And about your special forces who do not know victories, there are enough examples to take the operation to capture Bin Laden, drop a secret helicopter, you can’t say anything, the elite.
          4. svp67
            svp67 8 November 2013 01: 32
            +2
            Quote: Versed
            Russia prints the "paper" that nobody needs, and the US prints money

            which if one fine, but not a good day for America, all countries want to return them to the "manufacturer", then the United States will "burst" "with joy" ...
            Quote: Versed
            The cruiser Varyag (which does not surrender to the enemy) was built in the USA.

            "Bayan" - in France,
            And "Rurik", "Aurora" at our shipyards ...
            Quote: Versed
            From tsarist times, Russia bought ships from the Americans.
            Not yet, but ONLY ... In princely times - the USA did not exist, and the USSR managed with its shipyards ...
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 8 November 2013 01: 35
              +1
              Hi Seryozha, yes, this is the same troll, do you remember how you met him, in my opinion this is his third "reincarnation"
  7. andrei332809
    andrei332809 7 November 2013 16: 50
    18
    iron iron. but enviable. without shouting, without waving a hat, first they did, then they said. and "our" cattail with promises fed to nausea ...
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 7 November 2013 17: 26
      +3
      Quote: andrei332809
      iron iron. but enviable. without shouting, without waving a hat, first they did, then they said. and "our" cattail with promises fed to nausea ...

      How do you know, maybe they have their own "cattail" there? Ours is not broadcasting to America
  8. Xmypp
    Xmypp 7 November 2013 16: 52
    +4
    Quote: WIN969
    From where they take the money for all this, or they still go negative, and hope that the debt will be written off.

    And someone and something can do with their duty? Paper is riveted, resources are bought for paper, then they are built. What's so complicated.
  9. Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 7 November 2013 16: 53
    +2
    Someday, in the near future, the quantity will turn into quality and burst ...
  10. JonnyT
    JonnyT 7 November 2013 16: 55
    +1
    The United States is actively preparing ....... you have noticed that the military doctrine is shifting in favor of "cheapening" and rapid construction ........ I feel soon they will return to the general military service
    1. tun1313
      tun1313 7 November 2013 17: 26
      0
      Well, yes, the colony needs to be controlled, but you can’t save enough money for private traders.
  11. Kizhich
    Kizhich 7 November 2013 16: 57
    +5
    And I have a question why our country did not express concern about the development of offensive forces ???
  12. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 7 November 2013 17: 09
    0
    However, the trend. Who is interesting for the role of the Papuans recorded this time? UDCs are good, usually only in regional conflicts. Against the enemy does not have developed means of destruction of surface ships.
    1. Tyumen
      Tyumen 7 November 2013 18: 39
      0
      Only Cuba.
  13. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 7 November 2013 17: 09
    0
    However, the trend. Who is interesting for the role of the Papuans recorded this time? UDCs are good, usually only in regional conflicts. Against the enemy does not have developed means of destruction of surface ships.
  14. donavi49
    donavi49 7 November 2013 17: 12
    +4
    This is actually the first carrier of the KMP! There will be no dock in the project (on the first hulls for sure), landing only in the port or by Osprey helicopters. But there are a lot of F-35 and attack helicopters with large reserves of fuel and weapons (almost 2 times for each airport than in Wosp).

    That is, the ILC selects a bunch of USPP + LHA, and does not replace the USPOUs as previously planned.
  15. Stinger
    Stinger 7 November 2013 17: 18
    0
    It seems that it will be much easier to transport democracy around the world. Put Greenpeace on helicopters and you're done!
  16. Onyx
    Onyx 7 November 2013 17: 21
    +1
    This is something like Mistral, apparently, military transport helicopters will be used for landing
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 7 November 2013 18: 34
      +2
      Quote: Onyx
      This is something like Mistral

      Mistral compared to America is a pitiful cub ...
      1. Onyx
        Onyx 7 November 2013 18: 46
        +1
        Quote: Nayhas
        Mistral compared to America is a pitiful cub ...

        Seriously?
        1. Nayhas
          Nayhas 7 November 2013 19: 16
          +4
          Quote: Onyx
          Seriously?

          No damn it, the difference in 13000 tons of displacement is a joke!
          1. Onyx
            Onyx 7 November 2013 19: 53
            +2
            Quote: Nayhas
            Quote: Onyx
            Seriously?

            No damn it, the difference in 13000 tons of displacement is a joke!

            He would be a "miserable calf" if the difference was 35-40 thousand tons, and so, yes - less
            1. Nayhas
              Nayhas 8 November 2013 09: 14
              0
              Quote: Onyx
              He would be a "miserable calf" if the difference was 35-40 thousand tons, and so, yes - less

              OK, be it your way, not a cub, but a halfling ...
      2. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 7 November 2013 20: 07
        +2
        Quote: Nayhas
        Mistral compared to America is a pitiful cub ...

        Well, not really a baby, I would say a teenager.
  17. kafa
    kafa 7 November 2013 17: 29
    +5
    Quote: Stiletto
    Well then. Seven feet of this vessel ... OVER KILEM.

    over the klotik (yomayo infantry) laughing
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 7 November 2013 19: 13
      +1
      Quote: kafa
      over the klotik (yomayo infantry)
      Nothing, with overkill, even two meters with "kopecks" above the bottom turns out, but a cruel wish.
  18. RUSS
    RUSS 7 November 2013 17: 34
    0
    Quote: Army1
    Well, with aircraft carriers it’s understandable, but UDC and in the amount of 11 pieces, in my opinion a real cut, well, let it be 5 but not 11 in a crisis. And why are they needed ??? Who will land such forces, and where and how much.

    I'm afraid to make a mistake, but perhaps we will soon find out - "where and how much."
  19. ka5280
    ka5280 7 November 2013 17: 38
    +5
    That's what I like about American ships so much is the price tag. For 7 billion dollars, you can buy Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia together with the loan, and you will still have to go to Moldova.
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  21. ka5280
    ka5280 7 November 2013 17: 38
    0
    That's what I like about American ships so much is the price tag. For 7 billion dollars, you can buy Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia together with the loan, and you will still have to go to Moldova.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 November 2013 17: 58
      +3
      Although the Americans and our potential adversaries, the ships are handsome, you can rejoice for sailors and shipbuilders, if only the hawk politicians did not think up bad things about the use of ships, which I doubt.
      1. Tyumen
        Tyumen 7 November 2013 18: 46
        +3
        Do you think that seafarers are sent not by hawk politicians, but by the Pope? Or american
        politicians, approving the budget, thought about some EXCLUSIVELY peaceful mission?
    2. alone
      alone 7 November 2013 19: 56
      0
      Quote: ka5280
      That's what I like about American ships so much is the price tag. For 7 billion dollars, you can buy Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia together with the loan, and you will still have to go to Moldova.


      they are without 7 billion, together with America. as you can see, you didn’t even have to pay.
  22. Migari
    Migari 7 November 2013 17: 38
    +2
    Since the days of the Soviet Union, there has been our opposition to their actions, and it is as usual effective but much cheaper.
  23. Stiletto
    Stiletto 7 November 2013 17: 40
    +1
    Quote: kafa
    over the klotik (yomayo infantry)


    Sorry seaman hi Well, therefore, over the entim himself ... Schaub was empty for him, in general yes
  24. Migari
    Migari 7 November 2013 17: 41
    +4
    For 7 billion dollars you can Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia
    And why should the States buy them, they themselves surrendered with giblets, and even lick their ass.
    1. Onyx
      Onyx 7 November 2013 18: 07
      +3
      Quote: Migari
      For 7 billion dollars you can Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia
      And why should the States buy them, they themselves surrendered with giblets, and even lick their ass.

      Yes, and Pertre 1 at one time bought them from the Swedes, in the literal sense of the word. So when will they be next. just shout about the Soviet occupation, we must remind them of this
      1. ka5280
        ka5280 7 November 2013 19: 44
        +1
        You just do not say to the Baltic states that Peter 1 bought them from the Svedsky king. They then think that all civilizations went from them, and the wheel from them and the pyramid =)
        1. Onyx
          Onyx 7 November 2013 19: 57
          0
          Quote: ka5280
          They then think that all civilizations went from them, and the wheel from them

          Wheel from them? Well, if only this:
          1. ka5280
            ka5280 7 November 2013 20: 17
            0
            Oh, I recognize him, this is a high-speed Estonian armored car. As a rule, a Latvian archer sits on the trunk =)
            1. Onyx
              Onyx 7 November 2013 20: 43
              0
              Quote: ka5280
              Oh, I recognize him, this is a high-speed Estonian armored car. As a rule, a Latvian archer sits on the trunk =)

              You are a bit confused. This is a strategic Estonian atomic hairpin-missile carrier. The rocket is disguised as a bottle for water))
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 7 November 2013 20: 31
          -1
          Quote: ka5280
          You just do not say to the Baltic states that Peter 1 bought them from the Svedsky king. They then think that all civilizations have gone from them, and the wheel from them and the pyramids =)

          You confuse with the Chukhites Ukrainians ...
          1. ka5280
            ka5280 7 November 2013 21: 21
            0
            If you believe the history of the Baltic states, the Ukrainians appeared during the genetic experiments of the Baltic tribes over the gophers =)
  25. USNik
    USNik 7 November 2013 17: 50
    +2
    America went to sea
    In continuation and asks "and went to the bottom." It's a bad omen to call a ship after a country. And yet, yes, the CSTO with China and India need to hurry up and get rid of the US dollars and other assets, otherwise they have gone crazy, the debt is 17 (!) Trillion, sequestration, rats, and they are churning out zumvolts, helicopter carriers and aircraft carriers. Let them not live on credit, but on "one salary."
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 7 November 2013 18: 47
      +1
      Quote: USNik
      It is a bad omen to call a ship the name of a country.

      Duc LHA 6 America is not the first under this name. Before that, there was an aircraft carrier America which normally served its own.
  26. moremansf
    moremansf 7 November 2013 17: 56
    -1
    Let us recall the popular slogan in the USSR "Let's catch up and overtake America !!!" We will buy two more "Mistrals" from the French and throw hats on them ... I wanted words to turn into real deeds and our fleet only got stronger !!!
  27. novobranets
    novobranets 7 November 2013 17: 59
    0
    Nice thing, big, spacious fellow . If you attach it in the right place, you get a great house for crabs, again, fish need to throw eggs somewhere repeat . Well done Americans, thank them for taking care of the inhabitants of the deep sea. yes
  28. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 7 November 2013 18: 20
    12
    Does anyone really believe that 11 UDCs mean something in wars, on a scale equal to at least the Gulf War?)))

    America-class amphibious assault ships are nothing more than a wrap, camouflage cover for the real "exporters of war" in the Marine Transportation Command in number of 100+ pieces

    High-speed transports such as "Bob Hope". in / and in cargo 60 tons - more than that of the aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov". Full speed - 000 knots. Capacity - 24 Abrams tanks + trailers with fresh water, fuel and auxiliary equipment






    Fast container carrier type "Baldomero Lopez"



    The Lance-Corporal Roy Whit fast-rover-container ship (a former Soviet gas turbine ship of the Captain Smirnov type). Displacement 55 thousand tons



    Shewhart-class tank landing roker



    Algol-class fast amphibious transport. Full speed - 33 knots !!




    This is how democracy is delivered. and you are here discussing the unfortunate UDC "America"))))

    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 7 November 2013 19: 00
      +6
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      Amphibious ships of the "America" ​​type are nothing more than a wrap, a camouflage cover for the real "exporters of war" available as part of the Maritime Transportation Command in the amount of 100+ pieces

      Most inhabitants notice only aircraft carriers and attack ships, but they have no idea about the landing fleet, and even more so about the fleet. Generally speaking about wars, the majority do not think either about logistics or about means of delivery and supply, believing that this is taken for granted ...
      And I consider your disregard for UDC, UDCA to be false. The fact that the United States did not have to carry out major landing operations (the capture of the islands of Iraq certainly does not count) does not mean that they are impossible and will not be needed. Any enemy of the United States with maritime borders knows that the United States is capable of large-scale landing operations and has all the resources for this.
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 7 November 2013 19: 23
        -1
        Quote: Nayhas
        The United States is capable of large-scale landing operations

        How is Dieppe?)))

        The landing from 10 "Americas" into Iran is sheer suicide. A small number of troops will be killed and thrown into the sea - history has proven.

        To subdue the Papuans, a rather modest Mistral.

        A large UDC similar to America is a waste of money.
        Quote: Nayhas
        that the United States is capable of large-scale landing operations and has all the resources for this.

        For this, the Yankees have no resources, much less need
        They always come from the land
        1. Nayhas
          Nayhas 7 November 2013 19: 41
          0
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          How is Dieppe?)))

          No, like Iwo Jima, Okinawa, Omaha, Utah ...
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          They always come from the land

          It was just an opportunity to do it only from land.
          1. Kars
            Kars 7 November 2013 19: 46
            +1
            Quote: Nayhas
            No, like Iwo Jima, Okinawa, Omaha, Utah ...

            They made fun.
            For Omaha, by the way, the Americans concentrated their forces on a small unsinkable. Helicopter carrier for two years .. Great Britain.
            1. Nayhas
              Nayhas 7 November 2013 19: 58
              0
              Quote: Kars
              They made fun.

              Well, if Omaha makes you laugh, does it have similar feelings for Okinawa and Iwo Jima?
              1. Santa Fe
                Santa Fe 7 November 2013 20: 10
                0
                Quote: Nayhas
                similar feelings for Okinawa and Iwo Jima?

                Iwo Jima is a tiny piece of land in the middle of the ocean. After weeks of bombing and shelling with the main caliber

                against the lack of armored vehicles and the ability to receive enemy reinforcements
                (transports with Japanese tanks were sunk by an Amer submarine)

                Japanese garrison - 20 thousand people
                American landing - 100 THOUSAND people
                loss of the Yankees ~ 6 thousand dead, 20 thousand wounded

                Okinawa is the same. They landed from the "America" ​​with one battalion and captured the island))))
          2. Santa Fe
            Santa Fe 7 November 2013 20: 04
            +1
            Quote: Nayhas
            No, like Iwo Jima, Okinawa, Omaha, Utah ...

            ))))
            on day "D" a MILLION people landed.
            with 6x superiority in the air
            with fire support from hundreds of ships

            only the proximity of Great Britain helped to carry out such an operation. It would be unrealistic to hold an overlord from across the ocean
            Quote: Nayhas
            It was just an opportunity to do it only from land.

            Otherwise, you should not start.

            Landing in Normandy. This is something abruptly UDC America)))
    2. ka5280
      ka5280 7 November 2013 19: 35
      +1
      To unload this type of vessel two conditions must be fulfilled:
      1. Port availability, with draft appropriate for this type of ship.
      2. Pilot and tugboats for mooring.
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 7 November 2013 19: 45
        +4
        Quote: ka5280
        Port availability, with draft appropriate for this type of vessel.

        ))))))
        Unloading tank landing roller can be carried out even on the high seas For this, the Yankees have Mobile Landing Platforms (MLP) with lighters and landing boats

        USNS Montford Point landing platform (T-MLP-1)
        by the way, very simple and cheap - this is a regular tanker with cut out fuel tanks



        Everything has already been thought out there 10 times. the Yankees know how to do this. But they prefer not to tell the townsfolk about it - let them rather listen to tales about the UDC "America"

        Armored vehicles drive off the ramp on their own, loaded onto boats - and to the shore.
        1. ka5280
          ka5280 7 November 2013 21: 17
          0
          Such a landing tactic at a steep and rocky shore cannot be used.
          P.S. Thanks for the info about the platform, I did not know.
          1. Santa Fe
            Santa Fe 7 November 2013 21: 36
            0
            Quote: ka5280
            Such a landing tactic at a steep and rocky shore cannot be used.

            Do not need

            That is the brains, intelligence and operations planning department
            Quote: ka5280
            P.S. Thanks for the info about the platform, I did not know.

            Please, here is another episode:

            In general, there are many ways of unloading: in the port using onboard and stern ramps, using MLP, using pontoons, a crane on a barge (each of the rollers has 60-ton cargo booms), etc. - for all occasions
        2. Papakiko
          Papakiko 7 November 2013 22: 11
          0
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          Armored vehicles drive off the ramp on their own, loaded onto boats - and to the shore.

          Oleg.
          my respect, but using a submersible in a similar way is nonsense. Leave this to fools and disinfectors, although of course, in a pinch, yes, but it is categorically counterproductive.
          A submersible ship will deliver a pantone park with a length of x .... (200 meters of a working platform accommodating ... pantones) to the landing site. A couple of kilometers from the coast and the entire filling of the holds will leave on its own. I remember "Herrrr Professor" posted a Temka about a high-altitude exercise on an unprepared coast and there it all happened.
          Or an advanced base platform with all the stuffing:

          The Arctic, Antarctic and Russia are waiting for their fate. soldier
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 7 November 2013 22: 22
            0
            Well, in the appendage, a molar-like drafting about the capabilities of submersible vessels.
            1. Santa Fe
              Santa Fe 7 November 2013 22: 37
              0
              How do you propose loading barges into the water?
              50 miles from the coast ...
              1. Papakiko
                Papakiko 7 November 2013 23: 01
                0
                Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                How do you propose loading barges into the water?

                Oleg? belay
                You surprise me.
                Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                In general, there are many ways of unloading: in the port using onboard and stern ramps, using MLP, using pontoons, a crane on a barge (each of the rollers has 60-ton cargo booms), etc. - for all occasions

                They themselves answered their own question above.
                1. Santa Fe
                  Santa Fe 8 November 2013 00: 15
                  -1
                  You surprise me
                  Quote: Papakiko
                  In general, there are many ways of unloading: in the port using onboard and stern ramps, using MLP, using pontoons, a crane on a barge (each of the rollers has 60-ton cargo booms), etc. - for all occasions

                  It was about unloading tanks from transport to the deck of the MLP with subsequent delivery to the shore using lighters and boats

                  Why in this operation is a semi-submerged platform entrusted with trustwaters with punts?
                  1. Papakiko
                    Papakiko 8 November 2013 10: 22
                    0
                    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
                    Why in this operation is a semi-submerged platform, entrusted with piers barges

                    So I don’t understand why, in this operation, I need a submersible vessel?

                    Oil is obtained.
                    Drive 60000tn. lighter and moor to it another waffle in 60000. Achinea.
                    1. Santa Fe
                      Santa Fe 8 November 2013 13: 41
                      0
                      Quote: Papakiko
                      Drive 60000tn. lighter

                      MLP IS NOT A Lighter
                      And not submerged ship

                      This is a floating base with landing boats and lighters - an important intermediate stage when unloading armored vehicles on the high seas - without transport approaching the shore
                      Quote: Papakiko
                      Drive 60000tn. lighter and moor to it another waffle in 60000. Achinea.

                      It seems that you do not know the meaning of the word "lighter"
              2. Papakiko
                Papakiko 7 November 2013 23: 06
                +1
                It is better to check out the cartoon of the latest, domestic tailoring.

                And then read this text (after viewing)
                The kind Security Robot silently approached the intruder and hesitated - the old processor could not find the standard greeting program. The search process activated the viruses of ancient civilizations and the irreparable happened - instead of the words "Hello! Who are you?" the machine gun spoke up. The kind Security Robot instantly realized the mistake and took inhuman efforts to prevent the tragedy - as a result, the line went to the floor, ceiling, anywhere but to the alien, who, despite years of peaceful life, deftly dodged the bullets, recognizing the danger in them.
                Meanwhile, the robot managed to jam the machine gun, launch Kaspersky Anti-Virus, and, resuming the search for the hello program, rushed to the stranger to warn him about the fragile walls of the ship’s hull. But something went wrong - a swiftly found alien also swiftly flew along the path set by the Good Security Robot to check the walls' strength personally.
                In a desperate attempt to overcome its own madness, the Robot managed to neatly but confidently grab the intruder by the throat and, canceling the search for an irrelevant program, directly asked its owner the eternal question "What to do?" Agonizing milliseconds of waiting gave no answers. There was only one way out - "Kill!"
                But then something hit the eye. Scrap! The astronaut, brutalized by hospitality, managed to stick in the eye and crank his weapon there twice! Surprised Robot let go of the alien and began to rub his eye. The hero successfully fell near an oblong object vaguely familiar to him - his muddy luster aroused some ancient, barbaric emotions in him. Succumbing to primitive instincts, the astronaut grabbed the object, pointed it at the Robot and, unmistakably feeling the hook with his finger, pulled it. Something rolled inside the subject.
                The rubbing of the eye was a huge success - in addition to seeing the Good Security Robot, the welcome program returned! Delighted with his modest victories, the Robot scanned an alien and .. an irreparable happened. Something rolled out of the trunk.
                Kaspersky found viruses. The explosion struck.
    3. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 7 November 2013 20: 41
      0
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      Amphibious ships of the "America" ​​type are nothing more than a wrap, a camouflage cover for the real "exporters of war" available as part of the Maritime Transportation Command in the amount of 100+ pieces

      Against this, Russia has two nuclear submarines "Akula" with the number of 300 pieces on the sides of the "Granites" Which stand in the way of the convoy and the convoy has two ways out: either to drown or return home ..........
      But this story has no drama, heroically defended itself, at the cost of incredible efforts, we made multiple victims out of trouble.
  29. lex fim
    lex fim 7 November 2013 18: 23
    +1
    recourse While the "peacekeepers" are printing the world currency, they can do anything. It is sad, but it is a fact that we help them arm themselves through the dollar. Che there the BRICS muddied about the withdrawal of the dollar from mutual settlements for oil, and so it got old. The Jews apparently did not want to.
  30. novobranets
    novobranets 7 November 2013 18: 29
    +3
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/613/qwoe232.jpg Так будет лучше смотреться.
    1. killganoff
      killganoff 7 November 2013 20: 13
      0
      what kind of ship?
  31. serezhafili
    serezhafili 7 November 2013 18: 35
    0
    Even with 20 or even 30 "America" ​​you will not attack Russia - the scale is not the same! Here are the bases around - this is serious ... But the appearance of LHA 6 is quite logical - the aircraft carrier's air strike must be reinforced. 10-11 aircraft carriers - 11 LHA 6. Local conflicts, such as Syria ... Russia with its current fleet will not mind.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 7 November 2013 19: 43
      0
      Quote: serezhafili
      Even with 20 or even 30 "America" ​​you will not attack Russia - the scale is not the same!

      And besides Russia there are no more countries in the world? Or are you in terms of what we do not care? If so, yes.
      1. serezhafili
        serezhafili 7 November 2013 19: 54
        +2
        I repeat - Russia with its TODAY fleet will not mind ... (cannot)
    2. alone
      alone 7 November 2013 20: 00
      0
      Quote: serezhafili
      Even having 20 or even 30 "America" ​​you will not attack Russia - the scale is not the same! Here are the bases around - this is serious ... But the appearance of LHA 6 is quite logical - the aircraft carrier's air strike must be reinforced. 10-11 aircraft carriers - 11 LHA 6. Local conflicts, such as Syria ... Russia with its current fleet will not mind.


      nobody will attack Russia. Forget about it. Where they don’t work with a stick, they try a carrot. Once they succeeded. The USSR did not. The Dulles plan still works. Do not doubt it.
  32. spirit
    spirit 7 November 2013 18: 36
    +1
    Well, "Bob Hope" is like they have Chinook))) and LHA 6 America is their mv-22 osprey, quickly throw the group (division). And so I feel the guys say one thing and do another. Reduction !! reduction !! And they themselves build for max. While possible. then the dollar will be zeroed, a new currency will be introduced, rebellious blacks will be imprisoned in concentration camps. laughing )) Germans, I’m looking at my little gold already ****))) and you won’t do anything!
    1. vadson
      vadson 7 November 2013 20: 10
      0
      Yes? where is the third of our gold?
  33. NEXUS
    NEXUS 7 November 2013 18: 41
    +6
    Quote: Army1
    Well, with aircraft carriers it’s understandable, but UDC and in the amount of 11 pieces, in my opinion a real cut, well, let it be 5 but not 11 in a crisis. And why are they needed ??? Who will land such forces, and where and how much.

    The United States is stupidly building up muscles to live in new territories and areas ... at the moment, there is a redivision of the world and all these muscles are evidence of this. Until this happens, nobody will even think of demanding trillions of debt. Of course, Russia cannot buy itself at one point so many ships of this class ... but there is a saying - the larger the cabinet, the louder it falls.
  34. maestro123
    maestro123 7 November 2013 18: 47
    +1
    In order for them not to swim there, our fleet would need to be strengthened.
  35. de bouillon
    de bouillon 7 November 2013 18: 53
    +3
    Quote: Army1
    Well, with aircraft carriers it’s understandable, but UDC and in the amount of 11 pieces, in my opinion a real cut, well, let it be 5 but not 11 in a crisis. And why are they needed ??? Who will land such forces, and where and how much.


    UDC is an integral part of the Marine Corps. Despite the sequestration of the military budget of the Marines, the cuts were practically not affected.

    In short, the United States, as before, is betting on the Marine Corps. At the UDC are deployed KMP expeditionary forces (reinforced battalion MP + support units).

    unlike the previous UDC, America has a larger hangar and will carry more weapons and fuel. The air group will be larger. In fact, UDC America is a mini-aircraft carrier.
  36. mountain
    mountain 7 November 2013 20: 36
    0
    I would give a lot to see how all this will sink.
  37. mountain
    mountain 7 November 2013 20: 36
    0
    I would give a lot to see how all this will sink.
  38. 128mgb
    128mgb 7 November 2013 21: 19
    0
    All of America’s recent wars have been an intervention. Hence the construction of delivery vehicles. I wonder how much and what it takes to sink this trough?
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 7 November 2013 23: 17
      +4
      I think one granite is enough per unit, lower than the waterline
  39. Bradley
    Bradley 8 November 2013 04: 06
    +1
    Hmm, comments as always ...
    And what did the Americans do to the simple Russian people that they wish them so much bad?
  40. patriot2
    patriot2 8 November 2013 06: 34
    0
    Trough what you need - a bright target on the radar screen laughing
  41. click80
    click80 8 November 2013 08: 02
    0
    And if we do not test yachts or what thread of other RCC
  42. Gav-111
    Gav-111 8 November 2013 08: 34
    0
    Quote: Versed
    The budget cut has been put on stream exclusively in Russia and Africa - one level of development.

    in the States, they earn and spend money as directed

    A doctor, an urgent doctor! wassat
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 November 2013 08: 37
      0
      Quote: GAV-111
      A doctor, an urgent doctor!

      Here the doctor will not help, only a pathologist laughing
  43. Dmitry Zurn
    Dmitry Zurn 8 November 2013 16: 39
    0
    A large vessel, but it is unclear why the dock chamber was abandoned, I think that this in some way reduces its combat effectiveness as an UDC. As it learns more, a large "Ark Royal" with a landing. In my opinion, a slight rollback. Although the funds may have been cut, they will be added later in the course of modernization. It's good for the company - the profit is in advance.
  44. Dmitry Zurn
    Dmitry Zurn 8 November 2013 16: 40
    0
    A large vessel, but it is unclear why the dock chamber was abandoned, I think that this in some way reduces its combat effectiveness as an UDC. As it learns more, a large "Ark Royal" with a landing. In my opinion, a slight rollback. Although the funds may have been cut, they will be added later in the course of modernization. It's good for the company - the profit is in advance.
  45. NEXUS
    NEXUS 22 November 2013 02: 35
    +4
    Quote: Bradley
    Hmm, comments as always ...
    And what did the Americans do to the simple Russian people that they wish them so much bad?

    and who is talking about simple and kind Americans who chew chisburgers and drink Pepsi-Cola? ... it’s about the policy of the United States as a state and their leadership ... there are applications for the title of superpower from the United States, you won’t deny it? .. .but now, Mr. Abama and his administration cannot sleep well because at this moment in time, only Russia has a nuclear stockpile capable of completely destroying not only America as a state, but also America as a continent ... that's why we don’t like it we are America with its politics, and not its such kind and very peaceful people