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Columbia Pictures "presents: the pursuit of the Tu-160

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During the week, quite unexpectedly, the Russian Federation reminded of its existence such a state as Colombia. The President of this South American country, Juan Manuel Santos, speaking in the city of Pasto, said that last week there had been a violation of the Colombian airspace by the Russian Tu-160 aircraft. At the same time, in order to accompany the “violators”, the Colombians had to urgently raise Kfir fighters into the sky, which, reportedly, were awaiting orders to attack Russian air-launched missile carriers.




President Santos:
On Friday, the 2 Russian bomber flew from Venezuela to Nicaragua, they flew over Colombian airspace. Since these are military planes of a foreign state, they had to ask for permission. They did not ask him.

For such “boorish” behavior of Russian pilots, Juan Manuel Santos was determined to send a protest note to the Russian Federation through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The incident with the “violation” of the airspace of Colombia by a pair of Russian “White Swans”, according to the same Santos, was also not an isolated one. It turns out that there was a double violation: originally it allegedly happened at a time when strategists flew from Venezuela to the Republic of Nicaragua, and the second time Tu-160 flew over Colombian territory while returning from Managua Airport (Nicaragua) to Maiquetia Airport (Caracas, Venezuela).

Columbia Pictures "presents: the pursuit of the Tu-160


Returning to the words of the head of Colombia, a certain oddity is noticed. If Mr. Santos is sure that Russian strategic bombers violated Colombian airspace last Friday, and if he was extremely annoyed by this fact, then why did the presidential reaction come out somewhat late. As far as it is known, Colombia did not celebrate any public holidays unlike Russia the other day, and therefore more than three days of silence by the Colombian authorities on the “fact” of the air border violation, followed by the threats of protest notes and harsh statements made after silence, is quite difficult to explain from a reasonable point of view ...

Moreover, the Colombian leader notes that the Colombian air force fighters took off for the "interception" of the Russian "White Swans" on Friday 1 in November, but for some reason does not mean that the same Kfir took to the air at the first "violation" ( during the flight Tu-160 from Caracas to Managua). Or did the Colombian pilots prepare their fighters for the flight for so long that the Russian strategists managed to “fly” back and forth? ..

Representatives of the Russian Defense Ministry say that there was no violation of the air borders of Colombia, as the planes from Caracas to Managua and back flew over the airspace of Venezuela and Nicaragua (of course, with the permission of these states) and over the neutral waters of the Caribbean Sea.

So, let us assume that the Ministry of Defense is cunning, and that the planes flew precisely over Colombian territory. So - through Colombia, of course, it will be faster, but one can hardly expect that official Bogota wouldn’t warn anyone about the flight of strategists through its airspace. Flight Tu-160 in Latin America - the phenomenon is not trivial. If they flew every single day - well, then, hand on heart, one could still say that everyone knows about our flights here, and so everyone is already accustomed to them, and therefore it is possible not to warn them, but only to flap their wings in a sign of greeting ... And so - everything is somehow strange.

In this regard, you can bow to the version that the Colombian authorities are still dreamers. And in this they have a lot in common with the Japanese authorities, who over the past few years have stated at least three times that the air spaces of the Land of the Rising Sun Russian planes "shamelessly violated" ...

But if the Colombians themselves invented the violation of air borders, then why do they need it? There may be several explanations. The explanation of the first is related to the relations of Colombia and Venezuela. If Venezuela is positioning itself as a very tough opponent of American ideology, then Colombia in the Latin American world has recently been considered almost the main supporter of the United States. Because of this, official Bogota could give away a feverish thought that Russian strategic bombers had flown specially in Colombian airspace to demonstrate their military support for Venezuela over the Colombia.

Against this background, the second possible explanation of the situation manifests itself. Colombia has positioned itself as an exceptionally friendly state. Moreover, Colombia last summer signed a package of agreements with NATO on cooperation and, as it sounds from the document itself, “on rapprochement”. After the signing of such an agreement by Colombians, the leaders of various Latin American states accused the President of Colombia Santos in the quote: "A conspiracy against the anti-imperialist states of South and Central America." Colombians were affected by such criticism from their neighbors on the continent, and the Minister of Defense was forced to declare that Colombia could not join NATO, but was looking for other ways to cooperate with this military bloc. The term “cannot” was deciphered in Brussels, noting that Colombia, it turns out, does not fit the geographical standards of NATO (strangely, Luxembourg or Estonia are geographically suitable, but Colombia is not). However, Washington had to urgently remove Brussels and declare through the mouth of the State Department representatives that Colombia still has not lost everything regarding NATO, and that Colombia could fully prove itself in the North Atlantic alliance.

So, if Washington pats Bogota on the shoulder, then Santos personally or his American prompters could have the idea that the visit of Russian Tu-160 to Latin America needs to be watered. They say there is nothing for the Russians to do here, because “to reach Miami by hand”. What to think up? Oh yes! The easiest option: to declare a violation of international standards of military air travel. This, in principle, can also explain why Mr. Santos "woke up" after the Russian planes returned to the base in the Saratov region. Apparently, the President of Colombia unexpectedly "dawned" ...

PS Even the American media are perplexed about the performance of Juan Manuel Santos, trying to digest the information that supersonic “Carcasses” “violated” Columbia’s air borders on Friday, and the authorities reacted to this not earlier than the beginning of next week ... In particular, this discrepancy writes edition of The Washington Post.
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  1. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 8 November 2013 07: 42
    39
    The little dog barks, the caravan goes.
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 8 November 2013 08: 49
      75
      Ah, all sorts of fly here, coke prevented from exporting! laughing
      1. Canep
        Canep 8 November 2013 09: 02
        17
        Yes, the guys decided to cut the corner a bit, it happened. laughing
        If Mr. Santos is convinced that Russian strategic bombers violated Colombian airspace last Friday, and if he turned out to be extremely annoyed with this fact, then why did the presidential reaction come out a bit late.
        So in the USA, we didn’t want to take Barak Husenovich off from rest from the works of the righteous for the benefit of Mankind laughing
        1. Rink
          Rink 8 November 2013 09: 47
          27
          Quote: Canep
          Yes, the guys decided to cut the corner a bit, it happened ...

          If the Carcasses had "cut off" the corner, then it would not have remained there at all. They know how to very thoroughly "cut" any corners ...
          Obviously, the inhibited reaction of Bogotá is explained by the need for their president to personally check the quality of exported coke.
          1. skeptic
            skeptic 8 November 2013 13: 04
            +5
            Quote: Skating rink
            Obviously, the inhibited reaction of Bogotá is explained by the need for their president to personally check the quality of exported coke.


            Apparently, the president of Colombia suddenly "dawned on" ...

            Or rather, it dawned on him a bit late.
            1. zanoza
              zanoza 8 November 2013 14: 17
              +8
              The brain was clouded by coke ... laughing He woke up and thought to him: "Someone flew by ..., I could not be in such a" fly away ". what
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 8 November 2013 21: 33
                +8
                Quote: zanoza
                The brain was clouded by coke.

                Anecdote to the topic-Two drug addicts are sitting on the shore by the river, just sniffed, licked, pricked, pulled off ...
                Suddenly a cool wheelbarrow drives up from which a novorush falls out, all the spruces, pockets clatter from the dough .. He asks - Boys, where's the ford?
                Narkoshi, yes right here!
                Well, he again in a wheelbarrow and from dispersal in the river, bam, the car on the roof in the water.
                The brother gets out to the shore and yells- What are you goats, have you completely beguiled the shores? !!!
                Narkoshi - Why are you bro, we don’t drive, literally ten minutes ago we saw with our own eyes how geese crossed the river in this place and there was water to their waist!
            2. Migari
              Migari 8 November 2013 19: 15
              +2
              No, it’s just that he had a withdrawal, and how he went, he said so.
            3. Taidrem
              Taidrem 12 November 2013 15: 08
              +1
              no, just on Saturday and Sunday they do not work on Monday I went to work and then started)))
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      3. Simon
        Simon 8 November 2013 16: 02
        +1
        Everyone flew here so fast that they managed to react only a week later, that Russian planes flew by. laughing
      4. vlad767
        vlad767 8 November 2013 16: 06
        0
        In this regard, one can lean towards the version that the Colombian authorities are still dreamers.

        Yes, no, most likely they just dreamed after the next portion of their national product! laughing
      5. GSH-18
        GSH-18 9 November 2013 12: 20
        +2
        Quote from the article: "PS Even the American media are perplexed about the speech of Juan Manuel Santos, trying to digest the fact that the supersonic" Carcasses "" violated "the air borders of Colombia on Friday, and the authorities reacted to this not earlier than the beginning of next week ... In particular, about this inconsistency is reported by The Washington Post. "
        Just Juan Santos camouflaged Estonian! wassat
      6. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 10 November 2013 11: 56
        0
        Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
        Ah, all sorts of fly here, coke prevented from exporting! laughing


        it’s not coke here it smells of heavy hallucinogens, the sled has broken off with the wrong powder for which Colombia is loved, that’s why it threshes. ..
    2. Kolya
      Kolya 8 November 2013 09: 10
      19
      three doggies in the Baltic, one in South America
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 8 November 2013 09: 18
        14
        Quote: Kohl
        three doggies in the Baltic, one in South America

        - but more and a little more blunt. Long gone, and she only "woof!" yes "woof!". Is this fixable or better on heh? (this is such a Korean delicious dish).
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER 8 November 2013 10: 50
          +9
          Quote: aksakal
          Long gone, and she only "woof!"

          Yes, it’s strange it’s not like the Baltic states, but the reaction is even worse :)
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 8 November 2013 11: 06
            31
            Quote: DEfindER
            Yes, it’s strange it’s not like the Baltic states, but the reaction is even worse :)

            So for the Balts, cocaine is a holiday, and for Colombians, gray days laughing
        2. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 8 November 2013 17: 34
          +9
          So it ... is a dumb bark! We must wait for the strategists to fly away. Who knows, these crazy Russians? Suddenly, the commander will say - it’s an international incident anyway. Well, so as not in vain ... unload what we carry! And his fighting bear will throw a spare nuclear reactor on the Colombian president.
        3. edge
          edge 8 November 2013 18: 59
          0
          Quote: aksakal
          Long gone, and she only "woof!" yes "woof!"

          ..... and you bark earlier, you look and you can throw gifts, and the guys from Venezuela really love them (that’s to be thanked .....)
      2. Orik
        Orik 8 November 2013 11: 33
        41
        Unfortunately, there are many more ...
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 9 November 2013 12: 47
          +5
          Quote: Orik
          Unfortunately, there are many more ..

          And the star of David was drawn right at the right place, the target resembles! laughing
      3. Alex toll
        Alex toll 8 November 2013 15: 40
        +3
        And the bear, as they say .... uh, he each in the teeth and then picks mushrooms)))))))
      4. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 9 November 2013 00: 31
        -1
        Quote: Kohl
        three doggies in the Baltic, one in South America

        Little dog
        45 million population. , 1.5 million sq / km area of ​​the country, 25 world economy.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 9 November 2013 00: 41
          +9
          And cocaine is a profitable thing ...

          Not everything is so rosy. The country's economy does not belong to Colombians. A vivid example of a banana republic.
        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 9 November 2013 12: 53
          +1
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Quote: Kohl
          three doggies in the Baltic, one in South America

          Little dog
          45 million population. , 1.5 million sq / km area of ​​the country, 25 world economy.

          The first raw material "coconut" economy in the world! lol
        3. Cynic
          Cynic 9 November 2013 18: 20
          0
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          25 economy of the world.

          Well, this is for someone like, there is an opinion in certain circles that the first.
    3. rolik
      rolik 8 November 2013 11: 43
      15
      Quote: VohaAhov
      why did the presidential reaction come out somewhat belated. As far as we know, Colombia did not celebrate any public holidays the other day, and therefore it’s very difficult to explain from a reasonable point of view the more than three-day silence of the Colombian authorities on the “fact” of violation of the air border with the subsequent threats of protest notes and harsh statements that followed ...

      These three days they washed the seams)))))) And soldered with a valokordin))))))
    4. Yars
      Yars 8 November 2013 13: 12
      +5
      Colombia, another American litter
      1. cumastra1
        cumastra1 8 November 2013 15: 20
        +1
        This don Juan sniffed something .... They have it easy in Colombia.
    5. Megatron
      Megatron 8 November 2013 15: 29
      +2
      Colombia - laying of American pants)
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 9 November 2013 12: 55
        0
        Quote: Megatron
        Colombia - laying of American pants)

        Pampers lol
    6. tank 34
      tank 34 8 November 2013 16: 41
      0
      I agree completely.
    7. Cynic
      Cynic 8 November 2013 17: 50
      0
      Quote: VohaAhov
      The little dog barks, the caravan goes.

      Yes, as if he had come home long ago!
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 8 November 2013 21: 38
        0
        three doggies in the Baltic, one in South America
        So what are they so slow! On the Baltic states equal laughing
    8. AVV
      AVV 9 November 2013 00: 20
      0
      Colombia American litter! What can you hear here ???
    9. Realist58
      Realist58 9 November 2013 02: 00
      +2
      There, deep down, some are interested in why they flew.
      I explain - the 4th Reich together with Kokai .. Colombia, they are preparing an orange coup in Venezuela (we read the news), our people flew in to remind us that we also have democratizing "tumagavki".

      This is my opinion.
    10. GSH-18
      GSH-18 9 November 2013 12: 17
      0
      Some conclusions. Where are the facts? Article minus. With all the patriotic-positive attitude to her spirit (we did not violate anything, because we did not violate anything).
    11. timer
      timer 9 November 2013 19: 35
      +1
      I agree 100%. On my own I will add, some dwarf has gone all over Ivanovskaya. For this he expects another handout from "Uncle Joe".
  2. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 November 2013 07: 48
    21
    why did the presidential reaction come out somewhat belated
    Pampers changed ... laughing
    1. evgenii67
      evgenii67 8 November 2013 07: 58
      +3
      "and therefore more than three days of silence by the Colombian authorities on the" fact "of the violation of the air border" "Or did the Colombian pilots prepare their fighters for a flight for so long that Russian strategists managed to fly back and forth?" Colombians only let them go on the third day
    2. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 8 November 2013 08: 02
      +3
      It’s strange if their destroyers couldn’t catch up and force the rocket carrier to the ground, I smell ours used hypersonic engines! Our probably 9m flew those and .... But the Americans do not know belay Russians again overtook us belay , again, billions of dollars! laughing
      1. bistrov.
        bistrov. 8 November 2013 10: 35
        +2
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        It’s strange if their destroyers couldn’t catch up and force the missile carrier to the ground

        There, the speed there is up to 2500 km, if the Colombian fighters began to catch up, then they just crap one's pants.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 8 November 2013 19: 51
          +7
          Quote: bistrov.
          if Colombian fighters would catch up,

          Colombian?
          For some reason, no one paid attention to the characteristic name Kfir. Through life, as usual, ennobled on Earth the Promised Third Mirage! It’s interesting how at about the same speed they would intercept our 160s.
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 8 November 2013 20: 37
            +3
            probably only jumping, but how else?
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 12 November 2013 13: 47
              +1
              Quote: kotvov
              probably just jumping

              And in the jump does not work, the Swans have a ceiling five kilometers higher.
              Quote: kotvov
              ,how else?

              Long ( lol ) as it did not add up with an adequate interpretation, but how was the type really intercepted?
              Thanks to the forum member whose nickname And Us Rat pushed in the right direction.
              The reality was that our swans were Colombian for our swans, walked along the declared route and altitude at cruising speed, and it was absolutely parallel to this flickering _ Swans do not catch flies, they are too insignificant (rephrase of a known expression).
              drinks
        2. Skipper
          Skipper 9 November 2013 13: 53
          +6
          Colombia aircraft conditionally intercepted by Russian bombers, bombers from Russia conditionally destroyed Colombia laughing
      2. rolik
        rolik 8 November 2013 18: 25
        +2
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        It’s strange if their destroyers couldn’t catch up and force the missile carrier to the ground

        It's very simple, I’ll explain now ...))) Colombian pasans (well, the pilots) sniffed before leaving the coconut and ..... started)))) They got into the cockpits of their aircraft, started up the engines and took off. In the meantime, all this was happening, our futs were already flown away, leaving an inverse trace goodbye.
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 9 November 2013 12: 30
        +3
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        It’s strange if their destroyers couldn’t catch up and force the rocket-carrier to the ground, I smell ours used hypersonic! Our probably 9m flew those and .... And the Americans don’t know belay, the Russians again overtook us belay, again billions of dollars! laughing

        You have to be completely brainless in order to try to force the Tu-160 with nuclear weapons on board, which is carrying out a combat mission, to land! It’s the same as running away to meet a train, and screaming ASKED! wassat
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 November 2013 08: 15
      19
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Pampers changed ..

      Then take a note of protest, use it as toilet paper and send it back laughing Previously showing the video on the internet about the Russian answer wink
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 8 November 2013 08: 32
        11
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Then take a note of protest, use it as toilet paper and send it back

        You can send an answer without paper, a natural, so to speak, product of life. The main thing will be more cleaner, and not only Colombia but also its patron will suffice. As for the news, to be honest - like this pleases. If there are, albeit far-fetched incidents with an airspace violation with the participation of our aircraft in another part of the world, then Russia lives and is gaining strength. As for Juan Santos himself, as far as I know, he tried to legalize drugs in his own country, what kind of adequacy of this head of the narcotic state can be discussed. What we grow and produce and think fool Sasha hi !
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 8 November 2013 08: 40
          +6
          Quote: Tersky
          You can send an answer without paper, a natural, so to speak, product of life.

          Well, why, we are cultured people. A document must be attached to each heap. International law requires laughing
          hi Vit hi
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 8 November 2013 08: 43
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well, why, we are cultured people. Each heap needs a document attached.

            Not,.. No. , not received, not enough paper for all heaps, laughing !
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 8 November 2013 13: 17
              +2
              Quote: Tersky
              not received, paper is not enough for all heaps

              - Then you need to certify the entire batch immediately. In ISO-9001.
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 8 November 2013 21: 20
                +3
                Quote: aksakal
                - Then you need to certify the entire batch immediately. In ISO-9001.

                So the parties will be excessive, but there is a highlight! yes laughing ! aksakal, hi !
        2. iConst
          iConst 8 November 2013 10: 22
          +4
          Quote: Tersky
          If there are, albeit far-fetched incidents with an airspace violation with the participation of our aircraft in another part of the world, then Russia lives and is gaining strength.
          Yes, if you appear in the media - this is an advertisement. So notice. They threaten, try to bite - so they fear ...

          And the Baltic states - if not for the squeals towards Russia, the rest of Europe would have long forgotten about them ... And so they remind themselves from time to time. laughing
        3. DEfindER
          DEfindER 8 November 2013 10: 52
          +2
          Quote: Tersky
          As for Juan Santos himself, as far as I know, he tried to legalize drugs in his own country,

          Yes, it shows that he’s on a drug trip himself ..
      2. Walker1975
        Walker1975 8 November 2013 18: 08
        +2
        Something you reminded me of an old anecdote when in a school for Soviet diplomats they are asked to write an answer to the claims of some banana republic. The teacher collects the work, checks it and the next day says: well, in general, everything is written correctly, only "in ..." is written separately, and "black ... monkey" - with a capital letter - all the same the president :)
    4. os9165
      os9165 8 November 2013 11: 02
      0
      I clarify. Itself is not able - grandfather SEMU had to help change.
    5. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 11: 11
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Pampers changed ..

      I waited for Mishiko to send the chewed tie through FedExpress.
    6. Andrew-88
      Andrew-88 8 November 2013 11: 26
      19
      The answer is simple .... KAKAINUM.!
      1. smart ass
        smart ass 8 November 2013 12: 41
        +6
        What is your evidence)))))
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 8 November 2013 13: 18
          0
          Quote: Clever man
          What is your evidence

          - now you have evidence!
        2. MG42
          MG42 10 November 2013 02: 11
          +1
          Quote: Clever man
          What is your evidence)))))

          Yes, a good film and a memorable moment in the "red heat", but there were also funnier moments >>
    7. Black
      Black 8 November 2013 15: 12
      +6
      Quote: MIKHAN
      why did the presidential reaction come out somewhat belated
      Pampers changed ... laughing


      Each continent has its own "Balts" !!!
    8. Simon
      Simon 8 November 2013 16: 07
      0
      The tie probably ate his own, like Saakoshvili for a whole week, his mouth was busy. laughing laughing
    9. alone
      alone 8 November 2013 20: 40
      0
      Quote: MIKHAN
      why did the presidential reaction come out somewhat belated
      Pampers changed ...


      so long? did he have diarrhea? laughing
  3. nemec55
    nemec55 8 November 2013 07: 54
    +6
    The host said Fas
  4. makarov
    makarov 8 November 2013 07: 56
    +7
    "At the same time, to escort the 'intruders', the Colombians had to urgently raise Kfir fighters into the sky, which, reportedly, were awaiting orders to attack Russian air missile carriers ...."

    Who knows (?) Who is being treated by the guy in the photo? To scare the Russian Federation is insanity, because whoever scares, - those po..t.
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 8 November 2013 10: 27
      +7
      Quote: makarov
      Who knows (?) Who is being treated by the guy in the photo? ...

      This is Colombia! There, for such statements, you do not need to be crazy. In Colombia, there is so much miraculous grass that we still will not hear it.
  5. patriot2
    patriot2 8 November 2013 07: 57
    +6
    Oh, they offended Colombia, our carcasses prevented the Mafia from growing drugs, was there any noise from them? laughing
    Apparently their prezik thought for a long time than to annoy Russia.
  6. Ulysses
    Ulysses 8 November 2013 08: 04
    14
    Juan Manuel Santos, speaking in the city of Pasto, said

    About him, no?
    1. rolik
      rolik 8 November 2013 18: 27
      +1
      Quote: Ulysses
      About him, no?

      Not an eyebrow, so to speak, but an eye)))))))) laughing
    2. Hleb
      Hleb 9 November 2013 06: 49
      0
      I am surprised that Apollo did not see this malicious violation ...
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 November 2013 08: 08
    +6
    Or did the Colombian pilots prepare their fighters for the flight for so long that the Russian strategists managed to “fly” back and forth? ..


    While they found the pilots, while the spiders from the engines were swept away, while they were refueled ... why fly, whom to intercept or catch up?
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 8 November 2013 08: 12
      +4
      Quote: aszzz888
      While they found the pilots, while the spiders from the engines were swept away, while they were refueled ... why fly, whom to intercept or catch up?

      Not, not so, while they unloaded drugs from airplanes .....;)
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 8 November 2013 08: 15
        10
        citation-President of this South American country, Juan Manuel Santos, speaking in the city of Pasto, said last week that there was a violation of Colombian airspace by Russian Tu-160 aircraft.

        theme infographics
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 8 November 2013 21: 50
          0
          Maybe the columbines were chasing ours on simulators? Where is the photo of our "Swans" from their planes? And so - neither ours saw them, nor the columbines ...
          1. Serg 122
            Serg 122 8 November 2013 23: 26
            0
            It seems like some photos have appeared, but .... Nothing worthwhile
          2. rushan
            rushan 8 November 2013 23: 28
            0
            Where is the photo of our "Swans" from their planes?
            http://www.militaryparitet.com/ttp/data/ic_ttp/6221/
            Quote: Serg 122
  8. Rinat 1
    Rinat 1 8 November 2013 08: 30
    +4
    While the pilots came to, while the buzz from the dose of coke passed, and the carcasses had already flown away. So I had to so late to shout to the whole world. laughing But seriously, it's good that the Russian Air Force is flying and showing more teeth
  9. major071
    major071 8 November 2013 08: 31
    +5
    As far as we know, Colombia did not celebrate any public holidays the other day, and therefore it’s very difficult to explain from a reasonable point of view the more than three-day silence of the Colombian authorities on the “fact” of violation of the air border with the subsequent threats of protest notes and harsh statements that followed ...

    Why can not be explained? Can. While they fidgeted, they caught the parish, then the outcasts - here you have three days. wassat
  10. Stiletto
    Stiletto 8 November 2013 08: 46
    +5
    Mr. Santos took great risks by frightening the birds. "Swans", of course, are frightened birds, but if, as he assumed, these birds cheated out of fear, the world would lose a supplier of coffee and drugs in the person of Kumbia. For what our start-ups have it is ... vigorous.
    1. Stas57
      Stas57 8 November 2013 09: 22
      +2
      and they did not fly empty?
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 8 November 2013 21: 53
        +1
        Yes, they’ll tell you the truth, naive ... wassat
  11. Baton
    Baton 8 November 2013 08: 47
    +1
    Everything is very simple - in any actions against us: "Sherche la ... USA"
  12. rassom
    rassom 8 November 2013 08: 55
    +5
    there is a photo from one of their Kfirs
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 8 November 2013 10: 12
      +4
      rassom

      Photo - the evidence is doubtful. All the more so.
      Where is it visible: when, in what place was it made? Some spots are visible instead of numbers.
      Or photographed with a soap box (but even on a soap box you can set the date)?
      Is there no decent PCF on the Kfir?

      And where is the record of the radar wiring from the radar screens (i.e. materials OK)? And preferably not with one radar, but at least with 2's.

      So where is the evidence?

      And without them, a note of protest is just a piece of paper, unjustified.

      According to the article.

      Well, yes - there is a map. But where are the territorial waters, the airspace of states and the flight route of our Tu-160 indicated on it?
      Or is it a military secret?
      1. rassom
        rassom 8 November 2013 10: 56
        0
        of course the photo can be "drawn" and this photo looks more like a frame from a video. I posted it not to prove a border violation, but for aviation lovers
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 8 November 2013 14: 33
        +8
        "Well, yes - there is a map."
        Well, no on the "Belomor" Colombia, the boys are not to blame!
    2. STALGRAD76
      STALGRAD76 8 November 2013 10: 13
      +7
      But in the network there was a photo from TU 160
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 8 November 2013 22: 02
        +1
        Columbines photo "Swans" in the internet were looking for three days! Found in the Japs, apparently ... wassat
  13. Alexxeg73
    Alexxeg73 8 November 2013 08: 58
    +1
    Is he mowing under the Cabinet or something?
  14. Corsair
    Corsair 8 November 2013 09: 10
    0
    They are afraid of us, and not the countries that declare "the violation of airspace" (Sweden, Finland, Turkey, Japan, and now also ..... Colombia! fellow ), And their owner is the USA ...
  15. ed65b
    ed65b 8 November 2013 09: 14
    +3
    At the same time, to accompany the "violators", the Colombians had to urgently fly Kfir fighters into the sky, which were reportedly awaiting orders to attack Russian airborne carriers.
    How long would Colombia exist after attacking our carcasses?
  16. The gentleman
    The gentleman 8 November 2013 09: 18
    +3
    Colombia is trying to hide its plantations from Russian planes, so that tomorrow somewhere in the UN Security Council of the Russian Federation did not provide its intelligence
  17. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 8 November 2013 09: 26
    +9
    And what is this pattern - the best friends of the United States are always the largest manufacturers and distributors of drugs.
  18. Pit
    Pit 8 November 2013 09: 28
    13
    I immediately recall a joke:
    The exam at MGIMO, the professor gives students the task: you are the president of a major nuclear power, your Air Force mistakenly knocked down a passenger liner in a small African country, the government calls on you with a note of protest and demands compensation for the families of the victims. Your answer ... Students grab pens begin write. The next day, Professor: So everyone seemed to do the job well, but I want to note two common mistakes-N ... J is written separately, and black-nosed through O.
    1. Walker1975
      Walker1975 8 November 2013 18: 11
      +3
      I also remembered this joke, only there was a different ending - and the black-assed monkey - with a capital letter - still the President
  19. Walking
    Walking 8 November 2013 09: 31
    +4
    We must again send the carcasses so that they fly over Colombia with open bombs and suspension bombs, so for demonstration.
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 8 November 2013 22: 18
      +2
      Then colombines instead of coca would be collected! laughing
  20. Kolya
    Kolya 8 November 2013 09: 45
    +3
    Quote: MIKHAN
    why did the presidential reaction come out somewhat belated
    Pampers changed ... laughing

    Saakashvili's syndrome. In the future I should start to eat ties.
  21. Evgeny_Lev
    Evgeny_Lev 8 November 2013 09: 45
    +7
    The cocaine men raised the alarm to intercept the swans of the Super Toucans. We are afraid
    1. Sirozha
      Sirozha 8 November 2013 10: 26
      +7
      Is it nothing that Super Tucano is a Brazilian training aircraft?
      Your comment, a la blooper cowards on the fence ...
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 8 November 2013 11: 29
        +6
        Quote: Sirozha
        Is it nothing that Super Tucano is a Brazilian training aircraft?

        Full Turboprop Stormtrooper, and I note, to solve the tasks assigned to him, very effective ...
  22. andruha70
    andruha70 8 November 2013 09: 47
    +2
    why did the presidential reaction come out somewhat belated.
    so the same - Colombia ... the president from the "dose" "departed" laughing
  23. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 8 November 2013 09: 48
    +1
    It’s always been interesting what they’re doing with these notes of protest? They’re storing it in a closet? Or are they used as draft copies for the printer? In the 60s, when the Americans calmly carried out intelligence flights over the People’s Republic of China, the Chinese threw the Americans over with their notes, so they must be military toilets bases were transported to save.
  24. DATO8791
    DATO8791 8 November 2013 09: 52
    +1
    The Colombians have completely lost their fear ... I put on my list of countries that need "life-giving euthanasia". By the way, there is already the USA, Qatar and Saud
    1. olegyurjewitch
      olegyurjewitch 9 November 2013 16: 29
      0
      Quote: DATO8791
      By the way, there is already the USA, Qatar and Saudi

      The United States is losing ground around the world, Latin America seems to be a new object, against the backdrop of anti-American
      the mood of another America.
  25. fisherman
    fisherman 8 November 2013 10: 00
    +3
    The flight of the Tu-160 in Latin America is by no means a trivial phenomenon. If every day would fly - well then, honestly, we could still say that everyone knows about our flights here, they’re already used to them

    let them get used, the ice has broken ...
  26. Vasia kruger
    Vasia kruger 8 November 2013 10: 02
    +2
    1. They didn’t answer for a long time because from the arrival they couldn’t understand what’s happening for a long time, to see the coca was ugly this year)))

    2. Aircraft lifted Kfir only on the second pass, because at the first they realized that the pistons on the Tukans ... they couldn’t catch the jet-killer, and coke would not help.

    3. The note must be answered, required. The main thing to remember is that "On x @ p" is written separately, and "aardvark woodpecker" with a capital letter ... the president is still ...
  27. Diviz
    Diviz 8 November 2013 10: 06
    +4
    Give a dozen swans.
    1. iConst
      iConst 8 November 2013 13: 23
      +3
      Quote: DiViZ
      Give a dozen swans.

      Give two! laughing
      1. air wolf
        air wolf 8 November 2013 14: 05
        0
        The Tu-22M3 with a refueling system would also do a pretty good job!
  28. George
    George 8 November 2013 10: 14
    +6
    Hello all.
    They laughed, and the president and forum users with their posts on this topic, laughed heartily.
    Certainly Columbia picchers can't imagine how good it is without coke.
  29. morpogr
    morpogr 8 November 2013 10: 33
    +1
    He apparently thought it was glitches, but as he let go, he decided to blather and show the owners that he was working out his dose.
  30. iConst
    iConst 8 November 2013 10: 35
    +2
    "If Mr. Santos is convinced that Russian strategic bombers violated Colombian airspace last Friday, and if he turned out to be extremely annoyed with this fact, then why did the presidential reaction come out a bit late."

    I think so - for Santos it was news - the states spotted a span.
    They called and gave him a dule, like what is it next to the missile carriers fly, and you sit on the priest exactly? Fas!

    And the brakes - he was going to spirit and preparing a coherent speech ...
  31. AK-47
    AK-47 8 November 2013 10: 35
    17
    Last week, there was a violation by Russian planes of Tu-160 airspace in Colombia.

    It's simple.
    The flight was made in both cases through the airspace over the part of the Caribbean Sea that Colombia considers to be its own, declaring 200 miles of territorial waters, including from the small islands belonging to Colombia located off the coast of Nicaragua.
    Russia, like most other countries of the world, does not recognize the 200-mile width of territorial waters introduced by a number of Latin American states unilaterally.
    1. aviamed90
      aviamed90 8 November 2013 10: 53
      +5
      AK-47

      In that case, what's the point of sending a note of protest to a country that does not recognize Colombia’s right to this 200 mile zone?

      After all, we too can follow the example of Colombia and cut such a zone in the Chukotka region. And then half of Alaska will get there.

      Or is Russia worse than Colombia?
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 8 November 2013 11: 01
        +4
        To this topic.

        "The International Court of Justice - the highest court of the United Nations - ruled in more than 10 years of litigation between Colombia and Nicaragua over a group of disputed islands in the Caribbean, ruling that they belong to Colombia, but also changing the maritime border and thereby expanding the territorial waters of Nicaragua.

        The controversial archipelago is located approximately 775 km from the coast of Colombia and 230 km from Nicaragua.

        A court ruling on Monday said the islets Roncador, Kitasueño, Serrana, Serranilla, Baho Nuevo, Cayo Bolivar and Albuquerque, as well as the waters and the seabed around them belong to Colombia. At the same time, the court ruling, according to which the territorial waters of Nicaragua is increased, potentially provides the country with the opportunity to expand its fishing industry, and also gives it access to oil and gas fields. The decision also emphasizes that it does not affect the boundaries of the territorial waters of Costa Rica and Honduras.

        “Colombia categorically rejects this court decision,” said Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos, calling the ruling “incorrect and contradictory.”

        A few hours after the verdict, he flew to the island of San Andres - the largest in the archipelago, which includes the disputed islands. There he planned to spend the night and meet with local authorities.

        The decision of the international court, however, is binding.

        Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega, in turn, said that his compatriots should celebrate the court’s decision.

        “The court gave Nicaragua what belonged to us: thousands of square kilometers of natural resources,” he said.

        The litigation in the International Court of Justice has been going on since December 2001, when Nicaragua filed a lawsuit with claims to the disputed islands, but it goes back much deeper. Mutual claims were first voiced at the beginning of the 19th century, when the countries of Latin America gained independence from Spain.

        In 1928, Colombia and Nicaragua signed an agreement to settle the borders and sovereignty of the islands in the Caribbean. However, in 1980, the Sandinista government that came to power in Nicaragua unilaterally annulled the agreement, claiming that it had been signed under US pressure. In 2007, the International Court of Justice ruled that the treaty should be reinstated and that three islands - San Andres, Providencia and Santa Catalina - belong to Colombia. "

        ("The court resolved the 200-year-old dispute between Colombia and Nicaragua: one - the islands, the other - the seabed with oil" from 20.11.2012, source: http://www.gazeta.ru)

        That's where the blue dog rummaged! Apparently they really were all smoked in Colombia.
      2. rolik
        rolik 8 November 2013 11: 47
        +1
        Quote: aviamed90
        In that case, what's the point of sending a note of protest to a country that does not recognize Colombia’s right to this 200 mile zone?

        This is supposed to not be forgotten, there is such a point on the map, called Colombia)))))))
    2. windjoker
      windjoker 8 November 2013 23: 51
      0
      Quote: aviamed90
      To this topic.

      "The International Court of Justice - the highest court of the United Nations - ruled in more than 10 years of litigation between Colombia and Nicaragua over a group of disputed islands in the Caribbean, ruling that they belong to Colombia, but also changing the maritime border and thereby expanding the territorial waters of Nicaragua.

      The controversial archipelago is located approximately 775 km from the coast of Colombia and 230 km from Nicaragua.

      A court ruling on Monday said the islets Roncador, Kitasueño, Serrana, Serranilla, Baho Nuevo, Cayo Bolivar and Albuquerque, as well as the waters and the seabed around them belong to Colombia. At the same time, the court ruling, according to which the territorial waters of Nicaragua is increased, potentially provides the country with the opportunity to expand its fishing industry, and also gives it access to oil and gas fields. The decision also emphasizes that it does not affect the boundaries of the territorial waters of Costa Rica and Honduras.

      “Colombia categorically rejects this court decision,” said Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos, calling the ruling “incorrect and contradictory.”

      A few hours after the verdict, he flew to the island of San Andres - the largest in the archipelago, which includes the disputed islands. There he planned to spend the night and meet with local authorities.

      The decision of the international court, however, is binding.

      Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega, in turn, said that his compatriots should celebrate the court’s decision.

      “The court gave Nicaragua what belonged to us: thousands of square kilometers of natural resources,” he said.

      The litigation in the International Court of Justice has been going on since December 2001, when Nicaragua filed a lawsuit with claims to the disputed islands, but it goes back much deeper. Mutual claims were first voiced at the beginning of the 19th century, when the countries of Latin America gained independence from Spain.

      In 1928, Colombia and Nicaragua signed an agreement to settle the borders and sovereignty of the islands in the Caribbean. However, in 1980, the Sandinista government that came to power in Nicaragua unilaterally annulled the agreement, claiming that it had been signed under US pressure. In 2007, the International Court of Justice ruled that the treaty should be reinstated and that three islands - San Andres, Providencia and Santa Catalina - belong to Colombia. "

      ("The court resolved the 200-year-old dispute between Colombia and Nicaragua: one - the islands, the other - the seabed with oil" from 20.11.2012, source: http://www.gazeta.ru)

      That's where the blue dog rummaged! Apparently they really were all smoked in Colombia.

      In reality, the Pilots "cut the corner" fellow
  32. balamut_x
    balamut_x 8 November 2013 10: 41
    +1
    there is a video from Kfira
    1. rolik
      rolik 8 November 2013 11: 50
      +1
      Quote: balamut_x
      there is a video from Kfira

      It looks like shooting a UFO. Shitty camera and recording quality is correspondingly shitty.
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 8 November 2013 12: 11
        +1
        rolik

        Foreign car "Made in Israel" !!!
    2. windjoker
      windjoker 8 November 2013 13: 22
      +5
      Kfir (Hebrew כפיר, “lion cub”) is an all-weather multi-role fighter created by Israel Aerospace Industries based on Dassault Mirage III design documentation obtained by Israeli intelligence with Israeli avionics and a version of the American General Electric J79 engine manufactured in Israel.
      Crew: 1 people
      Maximum takeoff weight: 14670 kg
      Engine: 1 × turbojet General Electric J-79-J1E built in IAl Bedek with afterburner
      maximum thrust: 52,89 kN
      afterburner thrust: 83,40 kN
      Maximum speed: 2440 km / h
      Range: 1300 km
      Service ceiling: 17700 m
      Rate of climb: m / s 233,3
      Armament - Cannon: 2 × automatic. 30-mm cannons from Rafael DEFA 553 (DEFA cannon) (140 rounds each)
      Combat load: 6065 kg
      Bombs: Mark 82, GBU-13 LGB, TAL-1 or TAL-2 CBU, BLU-107 Durandal (English Matra Durandal), HOBOS.
      Missiles: anti-radar: 2 × AGM-45 Shrike
      Air-to-ground: 2 × AGM-65 Maverick; Air-to-air: 2 × AIM-9 Sidewinder, Shafrir or Python.
      Start of operation - 1975, in 2007 an additional batch of 24 modernized fighters was ordered (For the Colombian Air Force).
      Video shit - that's for sure. The equipment is outdated, and probably to shoot down the carcass is weak The Baikal airborne defense complex (BKO) allows detecting enemy air defense systems, detecting their position, jamming them with interference, or placing a curtain of decoys behind the aircraft. The tail cone contains numerous containers with IR traps and dipole reflectors. A heat direction finder "Ogonyok" is installed in the extreme rear part of the fuselage, which detects enemy missiles and aircraft approaching from the rear hemisphere.
      Therefore, even Coca fighters would not help wassat
      On super sound Tu-160 able to overcome the ocean, then without entering the enemy air defense zone to launch cruise missiles. Only one such nuclear missile carrier can completely destroy a large industrial metropolis or military base.
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 8 November 2013 14: 44
        +1
        Once I read a book called "Mossad" about some of the operations carried out. There was also about an operation to extract documentation for the Mirage. An exemplary operation, a fairy tale!
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 8 November 2013 22: 24
          0
          At super-sound, the Tu-160 is able to cross the ocean, then without entering the enemy’s air defense zone, launch cruise missiles. Only one such nuclear missile carrier can completely destroy a large industrial metropolis or military base.
          Or some kind of Kakalumbia ...
  33. Grandson of Veteran
    Grandson of Veteran 8 November 2013 10: 45
    +6
    Quote: MIKHAN
    why did the presidential reaction come out somewhat belated
    Pampers changed ... laughing

    What diapers?!? You write about the President of KO-lum-bii. I just decided for a long time. Immediately hit this presumptuous Russia or give them, insignificant little people, one last chance! Noble and generous, like all great ones !! Thanks you. Juan Manuelievich, we will no longer! laughing
  34. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 8 November 2013 10: 57
    0
    the defense minister was forced to declare that Colombia could not join NATO, but was looking for other ways to cooperate with this military bloc.

    So they found one way! wassat
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  36. mentor69
    mentor69 8 November 2013 11: 01
    +8
    Colombian pilots, president and mortar ....
    We flew, we fly and we will fly well, and the rest .....
  37. nod739
    nod739 8 November 2013 11: 05
    +1
    Quote: aksakal
    - but more and a little more blunt. Long gone, and she only "woof!" yes "woof!". Is this fixable or better on heh? (this is such a Korean delicious dish).


    colleague, this is a well-known disease - the Estonian syndrome is called
    many. many are ill with them
    the brain is far away - and that takes time to coordinate the answer
    gaaavvv ...... gggaaaaaavvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
  38. Mr.M
    Mr.M 8 November 2013 11: 06
    -2
    If there are ammunition with a nuclear component on board the TU-160 - I consider it unnecessary to coordinate any flight over a foreign territory laughing everyone dissatisfied - you can send emergency and immediate compensation in the amount of several kilotons online :)
  39. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 8 November 2013 11: 06
    +8
    The president of Colombia was bitten by an Estonian? request
    laughing
  40. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 11: 14
    +8
    The salary at the US Embassy to the President of Columbia was delayed for exactly 3 days.
  41. Pit Bull59
    Pit Bull59 8 November 2013 11: 38
    +2
    I guess why the president of Colombia has such a late reaction. The carcasses are supersonic. And for sure they were supersonic. And when the plane goes on supersonic, it is visible, but not heard at first. Only then, when the plane is no longer visible, a sound appears. And so it happened with the Colombians. laughing
  42. admrall
    admrall 8 November 2013 11: 44
    +1
    Yusovsky mongrels barked !!!
  43. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 8 November 2013 12: 08
    +2
    one can also explain why Mr. Santos "woke up" after Russian planes returned to base

    Check the genealogy of the Colombian. Are there any Estonian roots.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 8 November 2013 15: 58
      +1
      or Swedish .. laughing )))
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 8 November 2013 22: 25
        0
        ... or Finnish ... laughing laughing
  44. Ihrek
    Ihrek 8 November 2013 12: 11
    0
    A belated reaction - while in the USA they thought, while they were consulted, while these gathered courage lol
  45. nikcris
    nikcris 8 November 2013 12: 15
    +6
    I do not understand your gloating, gentlemen.
    Passed by supersonic - with coca all the leaves fell off from the impact. On weekends, Colombians rested (the reason for the delay in protest), and on Monday went to the plantation and oh .... whether !!! - leaves on earth, the collapse of the economy.
    Now they will have Holot and Holot. And you all laugh .... chki.
    Now they need to organize assistance through the United Nations poppy seeds wassat
  46. iConst
    iConst 8 November 2013 13: 13
    +2
    "IAI Kfir is known as an example of the development of an aircraft, the design of which includes an upgraded glider of a well-known combat aircraft (Mirage III and 5) and a modernized / newly created weapon system.
    .
    The design of the aircraft began with the secret operation of Mossad. Agents obtained the design documentation for the Mirage III French fighter, which was immediately used by the IAI to develop Kfira.
    .
    In May 1988, Colombia entered into a contract with Israel for the supply of 13 Kfir aircraft, valued at $ 200 million. From April to August 1989, 12 single-seat Kfir C.2 fighters were delivered, modified to standard C.7 (received end-to-end numbering from FAC 3040 to FAC 3051), and one double Kfir TC.7 (FAC 3003 number) arrived only at the beginning 1991 year. In 2007, an additional batch of 24 modernized Kfir fighters was ordered.
    "Vicky (c)

    Oh how! And about the piracy of films, they mutter something ... laughing
  47. iConst
    iConst 8 November 2013 13: 33
    +2
    C'mon guys! Get into the position of Colombians! Poor country, demand for coke fell - Afghans brought down the market with gerychym. Boredom!

    And so lucky! Enough for two weeks of revival in their taverns! laughing
  48. Stinger
    Stinger 8 November 2013 13: 36
    +5
    I do not see anything surprising in the late reaction of Colombia. Just a reflected signal from the Colombian radars from our aircraft is delayed. Via Washington.
    1. iConst
      iConst 8 November 2013 13: 40
      +1
      Quote: Stinger
      Just a reflected signal from the Colombian radars from our aircraft is delayed. Via Washington.

      With a special Colombian courier ... laughing
  49. iConst
    iConst 8 November 2013 13: 53
    -1
    Seriously, the meaning of these flights remains a mystery to me. Unless at least once, but all the crews visited these places - the missile carrier belongs to the strategic class!

    To whom and what to demonstrate?
    Latinos - they don’t understand, and what about sparrows from howitzers ...

    Partners? So it seems that our leadership has long been trying not to "anger".

    Ah ... no one else! belay
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 8 November 2013 14: 50
      +2
      "... our leadership has been trying not to" anger "for a long time."
      You don’t have to anger, but it doesn’t hurt to strain.
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    3. aviamed90
      aviamed90 8 November 2013 16: 29
      +1
      iConst

      Militarily, the meaning is really not enough.

      But then in the political! Weight!
      Remember the story of Cuba.

      In addition, there are no superfluous allies. Suppose, even though it is Venezuela from Nicaragua.
      1. iConst
        iConst 8 November 2013 22: 59
        -1
        Quote: aviamed90
        Militarily, the meaning is really not enough.

        But then in the political! Weight!
        Remember the story of Cuba.

        Well, expand your thought about political dividends.

        The political moment is the continuation of either the power component or the economic one.

        Here, the economy does not smell. Remains military - that is, power.

        And where is this "mass"?

        You stupidly think that the Americans did not know that the "carcasses" are flying?

        Firstly: flying empty planes is nothing special.

        Second: by agreement with our "partners", they must be warned in advance about the presence of nuclear weapons on board. And if the missile carriers went on a cruise with nuclear missiles, then, perhaps, the Caribbean crisis would repeat itself.

        And it is more likely that they would have simply been shot down like the Kursk had been soaked. And that's it!

        Who is going to minus - first arguments to the studio.
        1. aviamed90
          aviamed90 9 November 2013 09: 43
          +1
          iConst

          You are rude enough dialogue, dear!
          You can also respect the interlocutors.
          So, come down.

          On this topic.
          The purpose of this flight is one - a demonstration of the presence of the flag of the Russian Federation in Latin America.
          And this is not even so much a demonstration of military power as an opportunity to show "sworn friends" that Russia can still do something else as a state and without looking back at the United States.
          In addition, the fact of the flight, of course, was useful to us friendly Nicaragua and Venezuela. They felt our support (political, military, economic).

          About Cuba.
          We also didn’t immediately throw our missiles there.

          So, today - the innocuous flights of the Tu-160, and tomorrow - a military base or military-political alliance in this region, beneficial to Russia.

          And when I write "politically" I mean the use of military force (its presence and demonstration) as an instrument in foreign policy. Military force does not have to be used for its intended purpose - it is enough to demonstrate it.
          And as you know, the United States respects and talks on equal terms only with those states that have it. Americans are very practical people.
          That's the whole logic.

          By the way, what did you mean when you mentioned the Kursk?
          1. iConst
            iConst 9 November 2013 11: 58
            +1
            Quote: aviamed90
            You are rude enough dialogue, dear!
            You can also respect the interlocutors.
            So, come down.

            And did not rise. But you are right - in the heat of the day I went too far. Sorry ...
          2. iConst
            iConst 9 November 2013 12: 07
            0
            Quote: aviamed90
            The purpose of this flight is one - a demonstration of the presence of the flag of the Russian Federation in Latin America.
            And this is not even so much a demonstration of military power as an opportunity to show "sworn friends" that Russia can still do something else as a state and without looking back at the United States.
            In addition, the fact of the flight, of course, was useful to us friendly Nicaragua and Venezuela. They felt our support (political, military, economic).

            And what do such conclusions come from? Didn’t Russia show its support to the same Cuba - disowned for quiet ... that’s all political / military / economic support.

            It is more like a hint: we will ... with opposition states countries! And what the ellipsis is - no one knows.
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            2. aviamed90
              aviamed90 13 November 2013 19: 14
              0
              iConst

              From the reaction of "sworn friends". Check out interviews with US officials on this matter.

              And with Cuba, another story came out.
              For some reason, Russia is not interested in it. And according to rumors, the Cubans now have the biggest "friends" - the Chinese.
          3. iConst
            iConst 9 November 2013 12: 23
            0
            Quote: aviamed90
            And when I write "politically" I mean the use of military force (its presence and demonstration) as an instrument in foreign policy. Military force does not have to be used for its intended purpose - it is enough to demonstrate it.
            And as you know, the United States respects and talks on equal terms only with those states that have it. Americans are very practical people.
            That's all the logic
            You repeated what I wrote: politics is a continuation of either military potential or economic.

            Hence: in order for political statements to have weight, their declaring country must be strong in both directions. And by a funny coincidence, these two forms are inseparable from each other. Do you agree?

            As for the fact that it is not necessary to use military force, it is only necessary to demonstrate - how is it? I don’t understand!
            Like in a kindergarten: do not go to me — did I study karate, in the hope that the frightened enemy would retreat?

            Sorry - this will not work.

            And here is another problem: besides force, there still must be political will to use this force, political calculation and military art, so that all this does not turn into political stupidity ... Guess about my next question?

            Regarding respect: do you yourself believe that the states respect someone? They can be afraid, afraid (before), hate, etc., but just not respect, in the very "gentlemanly" sense of the word. You yourself gave the answer - they are wildly practical, calculating people and such respect does not fit into their ideology.
            1. aviamed90
              aviamed90 13 November 2013 19: 24
              0
              iConst

              Why doesn’t it work?

              Here is an example - the PRC.

              The economy is on the rise (this is a fact). The army also does not lag behind (it plays muscles quite effectively).
              But at the same time, China has no military conflicts with the United States (and their satellites, including Japan).

              And the Americans, for some reason, respect them and reckon with them. Is not it?
              And not only because the Chinese bought up a bunch of American securities.
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          4. iConst
            iConst 9 November 2013 12: 27
            0
            Quote: aviamed90
            By the way, what did you mean when you mentioned the Kursk?
            The fact that, in the opinion of sufficiently authoritative foreign sources, this was not an accident ... And those at the top know this.
            1. aviamed90
              aviamed90 13 November 2013 19: 26
              0
              iConst

              The first time I hear about this.

              What sources, if not secret?
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    4. iConst
      iConst 8 November 2013 22: 35
      0
      Quote: iConst
      Seriously, the meaning of these flights remains a mystery to me. Unless at least once, but all the crews visited these places - the missile carrier belongs to the strategic class!

      To whom and what to demonstrate?
      Latinos - they don’t understand, and what about sparrows from howitzers ...

      Partners? So it seems that our leadership has long been trying not to "anger".

      Ah ... no one else! belay
      Who minus - be called. This post is generally not subject to evaluation.
      Or with the logic of the problem?
  50. Archibald
    Archibald 8 November 2013 15: 14
    -7
    If you really flew, they would have shot down the fuck, and correctly done. Impudence is also not necessary, we have no exclusivity.
    1. sakmagon
      sakmagon 8 November 2013 23: 44
      +1
      Well, if they didn’t shoot down, then they didn’t fly in, did they? which our voiced, and we have an exceptional attitude to Colombia, do not dissemble, look the truth in the eye, look wide open, because that is why they waited for their landing
      at your base or is there another explanation?
      1. iConst
        iConst 9 November 2013 00: 28
        -1
        Quote: sakmagon
        Well, if they didn’t shoot down, then they didn’t fly in, did they? which our voiced, and we have an exceptional attitude to Colombia, do not dissemble, look the truth in the eye, look wide open, because that is why they waited for their landing
        at your base or is there another explanation?

        Understood nothing.
        Orforgaria and punctuation at school?
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