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Komsomolsk-on-Amur. Inside view

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History Cities began 10 May 1932, when the ships "Comintern" and "Columbus" landed on the Amur coast, near the village of Perm, about a thousand builders of the future city. Today, this event is reminiscent of a memorial stone and a monument to the builders. The city was officially formed by the Decree of the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee on December 10 1932 of the year.


Memorial stone on the embankment in Komsomolsk-on-Amur


The new city on the bank of the Amur was conceived as the center of the defense industry in the Far East. From the very beginning of the construction of the city, aviation, shipbuilding and metallurgical enterprises were laid.

The construction itself was carried out in the most difficult conditions. Despite the fact that Komsomolsk-on-Amur is located south of Moscow (approximately at the latitude of Belgorod and Voronezh), according to its climatic characteristics, it is equated to the regions of the Far North. Snow cover in the Komsomolsk region falls in late October - early November, and comes down in late April. The average annual air temperature is 1,5 ° C.

Extreme climatic factors: in summer - sweltering heat combined with high humidity and midges, in winter - frosts below –40 ° C and strong wind. Poor living conditions and logistics, monotonous and often inadequate nutrition have led to a shortage of manpower at construction sites. On 1 on April 1934 of the 2500 Komsomol members who arrived for construction, there were 460 people available, the rest left the site in various ways. This shortage was soon partially compensated by military builders, and to a greater extent by prisoners.

In the vicinity of the city, many “zones” of Amurlag were built, a significant part of their inhabitants remained in the Far Eastern land forever.

Contrary to all the difficulties, the enterprises built as soon as possible actively produced defense products during the war years, contributing to the victory. The industry of the city supplied: ferrous metal, warships and airplanes.

After the war, Komsomolsk-on-Amur was actively developing. Housing was built at a rapid pace, industrial output increased. The status of the city as the main producer of military high-tech products has increased even more. By the end of 80-x at Komsomolsk-on-Amur aviation production association them. Yu. A. Gagarin (KnAAPO) mastered the mass production of X-NUMX-generation Su-4 fighters. Shipyard № 27 named after Lenin Komsomol (ZLK) built the DPL Ave 199 and submarine Ave 877.

In 1986, in the Amurstal metallurgical plant, in addition to the existing capacities, the following electric steel melting shop (EFHC-2) and the Rolled profiling shop (Prokat-3) were launched. To meet the needs for heat and electricity, CHP-3 and numerous power transmission lines have been built.

Increased production and other enterprises of the civil sector. In agriculture, there was a high growth rate in animal husbandry. In the middle of the 80-s, a number of livestock-raising complexes (now completely destroyed) were erected, which made it possible to mainly satisfy local meat needs. Suburban state farms grew vegetables in considerable quantities, adapted to local conditions. Now all food products are imported from other regions and the PRC.

The population of Komsomolsk-on-Amur reached its peak in 1991, and amounted to -318000 people. In reality, the number of residents was much higher, taking into account the numerous military units and ITK located in the vicinity - at least 350000 people.

If you do not take into account military personnel and prisoners, the main factors holding the able-bodied population in the region were high wages, northern benefits, and the ability to quickly get comfortable housing.

The city since its foundation is inextricably linked with the military. For a long time, it remained closed. This is due to the large number of defense enterprises, as well as the geographical location of the city, which, in the event of military threats, remains the only city located on the BAM-e, remote from the maritime theaters of military operations (240 km) and the state border (300 km).

At present, most military units are disbanded, equipment has been removed or “utilized”, and military camps that have been well-equipped in the past have been abandoned and looted.

With the collapse of the USSR and the beginning of the "economic reforms" at the industrial enterprises of the city there was a collapse in production.
The government of the country began to consider the Far Eastern region a burden for the country's economy. The statement of Prime Minister E. Gaidar, who visited the city on October 1 on October 1993, is well known: “In these parts, it’s enough to leave 30 of thousands of people for logging.”

It would seem that the coming “well-fed” 2000-s and sufficient financial resources that were at the disposal of the country's leadership should have changed the attitude towards the Far East. However, this did not happen: the money was invested in anything, but not in the development of the territory.

Hopes for foreign investment in industry and processing industries from China, Korea and Japan proved to be untenable. It is naive to believe (taking into account unfavorable climatic factors, high level of corruption, administrative arbitrariness and expensive energy resources) that foreign investors will invest in the development of Far Eastern territories. It is much easier for them to receive raw materials and energy from us, and at prices that are much lower than in Russia itself.



As an example of an extremely short-sighted approach, one can cite the activities of Chinese timber harvesting companies in the Khabarovsk Territory.

Far Eastern taiga


What is the point of the Chinese paying our leshozes a good price for the forest when they themselves harvest in the far eastern taiga? Without worrying about forest reproduction and leaving behind a desert.

What remains after the Chinese "loggers"


The general perplexity among the inhabitants of the region is caused by the tariff policy of the authorities in the field of electricity and automobile fuel. It’s impossible to call it as the suffocating one. The cost of a kilowatt / hour in Komsomolsk is 3,47 ruble. In the near future, the introduction of the so-called “social norm” is expected, i.e. energy to the population will cost even more. This is despite the fact that there is an excess of generating capacity in the region, and the “surplus” energy is supplied to China at prices many times smaller than for its own consumers!

The inhabitants of the region from the Zeyskaya and Bureiskaya HPPs built have nothing but environmental problems and the deterioration of the hydrological regime in the Amur.

During the next press conference on the question of V. Putin about why this is happening, no clear answer was received.

In response, there was a verbiage about the globalization of the economy, freedom of pricing, tariff policy, etc.

Fuel prices at gas stations in Komsomolsk-on-Amur


All this applies to the price of gasoline, which inevitably affects the final prices for food in retail outlets.

The introduction of fair prices for electricity and fuel, tax breaks in the real sector of the economy, the construction of roads and housing could give a real impetus to the development of the Far Eastern territories.

But, apparently, to pump money into the Caucasian regions, Olympiads, US securities for our leadership closer and more familiar.

Environmental problems are especially acute in comparison with other Far Eastern cities in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. Groundwater, small water bodies are polluted, the main source of water intake - Amur - is subject to strong anthropogenic impact. Due to the constructed hydroelectric power stations and the discharge of sewage in the upper part of the Amur (in particular, this is the city of Khabarovsk, as well as settlements of China) there is a high bacterial contamination, which does not allow it to be used for recreational purposes and forces to chlorine drinking water with higher doses, which leads to the exacerbation of the problem of the formation of carcinogenic organochlorine compounds.

Komsomolsk-on-Amur is a “risk area” for the incidence of leukemia, malignant tumors of the skin and respiratory organs. The incidence of cancer is increased - up to 403,9 per 100 thousand population. Skin cancer prevails in the incidence structure - 16,1%, trachea, bronchus and lung cancer - 13,8%, breast cancer - 10,6%, female genital organs - 8,2%, stomach cancer - 7,9%.

There greatest groundwater contamination compared to Krai cities - chlorides (to 520 mg / dm3 - 1,5 MPC), lead (0,039 mg / dm3 - 1,3 MPC), cadmium (0,0063 mg / dm3 - 6,3 MPC), beryllium (0,0018 mg / dm3 - 9 MPC), aluminum (2,58 mg / dm3 - 5,16 MPC), titanium (1,556 mg / dm3 - 15,56 MPC).

After the elimination of the forest protection service in the spring-summer period, taiga and peat bogs burn around the city. Smoke and smoke from forest fires leads to a high concentration of carbon monoxide, several times higher than the MPC. Visibility on the roads may be less than 100 m.

In the summer of 2012, emissions of “unknown gases” occurred at the Komsomolsk Refinery. The situation was the scale of this ecological disaster. However, representatives of Rosneft, despite the strong smell of gas and deterioration of health among many residents of the city for a long time, continued to deny everything.

Health care in the city is a polyclinic and outpatient. To obtain better medical care, residents are forced to turn to medical organizations in Khabarovsk, Moscow, and Novosibirsk.

Severe climatic conditions, environmental problems, lack of improvement, lack of affordable housing, and, most importantly, low wages and higher tariffs and prices compared to central regions, lead to a massive outflow of people from the city. First of all, the most active part of the population is leaving - the youth.

It turns out a vicious circle. The low level of remuneration at the industrial enterprises of the city leads to personnel hunger and a lack of qualified labor, which is an obstacle to increasing the production of high-tech products.

T-50 produced by KnAAZ at MAKS-2011 air show


Even at an enterprise like Komsomolsky-on-Amur aviation Yu.A. Gagarin Plant (KnAAZ OJSC), where Su-35 fighters are manufactured, the PAK FA program is being implemented, Sukhoi Superjet 100 airliners are being assembled, and there is an acute shortage of workers. With an average factory wage of 42000 rubles. (which is like the "average temperature in the hospital, taking into account the morgue"), the real salary of the collector-riveter is 25000 rubles. The difference is the money received by "effective managers."

At the Amur Shipyard the situation with the level of wages is even worse.
This once flourishing enterprise, due to the absence of a defense order and theft of leadership, has been brought to bankruptcy.

The promises made during a visit to the plant shortly before the elections by the current president about the state order and financial investments remained just words.

Moreover, not so long ago it became known that submarines would no longer be built at the NEA. And after all, the enterprise was “sharpened” for their production.

Not less questions cause actions of local and regional authorities.
The position of the head of the city since 1991 has been permanently held by an honorary citizen of the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Candidate of Economic Sciences, a member of the party "ER" from 10.02.2006, Vladimir Petrovich Mikhalev.

Komsomolsk-on-Amur. Inside view
Vladimir Petrovich Mikhalev - Candidate of Economic Sciences


V.P. Mikhalev was awarded with state awards: the Order “For Merit to the Fatherland”, IV degree (2007), the medals “For Labor Valor” (1981) and “For the Construction of the Baikal-Amur Railway” (1988), the Order of Honor (1998), Order of the "Holy Prince Daniel of Moscow" - II degree (2001), the medal "200 years of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia" (2002), the medal "300 years of the Russian Fleet"(2004), was awarded the Main All-Russian Public Prize" Russian National Olympus "in the personal nomination" Mayor of the Year 2002-2003 ", with the diploma and public order" For Honor and Valor "(2003), the first three times Hero of the Soviet Union A.I. Pokryshkin "(2004).

According to official data, the number of residents in the city has decreased from 318 600 to 257 800 residents during the management of the city by this honored and treated person by the authorities. In reality, the outflow of the population is much greater, in Komsomolsk-on-Amur residents are moving from nearby Amursk and Solnechny, where living conditions, the situation with employment and remuneration is even worse. The villages along the BAM are almost deserted, the lack of work, basic amenities and any prospects forces people to leave their homes and move to Komsomolsk.

Many industrial enterprises ceased to exist, and the majority of those who remained with difficulty survive. In order to "save" eliminated a number of educational and health facilities. Housing construction has practically ceased, many roads even in the city center are in unsatisfactory condition.

On the other hand, numerous shopping centers are being built and, oddly enough in permafrost conditions, fountains.

Barracks built 30-ies on Pioneer Street (almost in the city center)


At the same time, part of the population continues to live in the barracks, built in the middle of the 30-s by the first builders of the city. All the "amenities" in this "housing" are on the street.

A unique feature of the mayor of Komsomolsk is his amazing ability, if necessary, to negotiate and find a common language with anyone.

For example, V.P. Mikhalev got along well with the well-known criminal authority Yevgeny Vasin (Jem).

From the beginning of the 90s, Komsomolsk-on-Amur began to enjoy the dubious fame of the "criminal capital" of the Far Eastern region.

The influence of “Jem” and the “Obshchak” organized criminal group created by it was very great. Members of Obshchak were engaged in extortion with impunity, putting under control or imposing a tribute to many enterprises and many entrepreneurs. With those who did not agree to pay, they brutally cracked down. The level of thefts, robberies and car thefts was extremely high. Representatives of this criminal group 23 on April 1995 of the year in the Leninsky district of Komsomolsk-on-Amur were bombarded with a police grenade.

Despite numerous crimes committed by members of the Obshchak and appeals from citizens, the authorities limited themselves to half measures, at best, bringing to justice the ordinary members of the criminal group.

At the beginning of the 1990-s, Vasin organized a youth camp on the Amur island of Malaikin near Komsomolsk-on-Amur. There, almost legally, adolescents from dysfunctional families underwent combat training and were trained in thieving "concepts."

Only an arson of 22 in February 2001 of the year by members of the organized crime group Cafe "Enchantress", which led to mass death of people and caused widespread protests among city residents, led to the arrest of Jem. Thieves in law thus expected to strike at the owner of the "Sorceress", who did not pay tribute to "Obshchak."

During the attack, gangsters in masks threw the premises with incendiary cans (including at the threshold to cut off the road to the exit). The flames quickly spread to the crowded cafe. As a result of the arson, four people burned alive (and they did not die from burns - they were actually cremated alive, the bodies of the dead were charred to the bone), another four died in the hospital, over twenty people received burns, many of them were disabled. People who managed to escape from the cafe, on the street peeled skin. All the dead and most of the victims were young people between the ages of 15 and 25.

On charges of this crime, Vasin was arrested and soon died in the Khabarovsk SIZO, according to the official version, from heart failure.
However, everything that happened had no effect on the leadership of the city.

The actions of local authorities during the preparation and liquidation of the aftermath of the flood, which for some reason they are bashfully called flooding, deserve a separate assessment.

Komsomolsk-on-Amur embankment near the river station during the flood


A few weeks before the “big water”, when the Amur region was drowned and the flood wave shifted down the Amur, no action was taken. Except, of course, optimistic statements in the local media.

During this time, it was quite realistic to prepare, build up protective dams and avoid flooding large areas. But time was lost, work began when flooding became inevitable.

Only thanks to the selfless actions of conscript soldiers, emergency workers and volunteers from among the local residents managed to avoid flooding the central part of the city.



During the passage of the “peak of the flood”, the activities of the head of the city fell out of sight of the public and the media. In the reports and directly in the flooded areas, only his deputies could be seen. At one time, even residents of Komsomolsk-on-Amur even circulated information about the removal of V.P. Mikhalev with the post.

Vladimir Petrovich showed up when it became clear that the threat of flooding the city was over.

Prospect International


The central areas of the city avoided serious flooding, but the private sector was severely damaged. In many flooded homes, the water level has reached 1,5 meters and more.

Against the background of the approaching winter (the first snow fell in Komsomolsk on October 15), the issues of restoring destroyed housing and paying compensations remain largely unresolved. Apparently, many citizens will have to resolve these issues in court.

Flood streets of the village Parkovy


Nothing, except a bitter smile, does not cause the last 8 of September 2013 of the year, in the midst of a flood, gubernatorial elections. With the turnout of 26%, the current governor Vyacheslav Shport voted 62,48% of voters, i.e. Slightly more than 13% eligible to vote.

Vyacheslav Shport was born and began his career biography in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. He has held various positions at KnAAPO. December 19 1999 was elected to the State Duma of the Russian Federation.
30 April 2009 was appointed by the decree of the President of Russia as the acting governor of the Khabarovsk Territory, replacing the former elected governor, Viktor Ivanovich Ishayev.

Unlike V.I. Ishayev, who did not hesitate to criticize the central government, had his own opinion and demonstrated a certain independence, the current governor always showed loyalty, often to the detriment of the interests of the region.

During his governorship, there were no significant positive changes in the development of the region and his native city.

In 2013, the budget deficit of the Khabarovsk Territory was 15%. To cover it under the guarantees of the regional government, loans were taken from commercial banks. The economic growth planned in 2013 in the region - 103% - most likely will not be achieved. How to extinguish these credit obligations is not clear.

Most likely, it will be necessary to get out of the situation with the help of the next increase in tariffs, local taxes and excises, which are already among the highest in the country. And this will once again lay an additional burden on residents and businesses, reduce the purchasing power of the population and the investment attractiveness of the territory.

The unresolved social and economic problems, the low standard of living, the cutoff due to high transport tariffs from the center, the inattention of the federal authorities to the needs of the Far East - all this leads to an increase in the degree of social discontent and the growth of separatist sentiments.
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  1. Dimy4
    Dimy4 9 November 2013 07: 17
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    The statement of Prime Minister E. Gaidar, who visited the city on October 1, 1993: “In this region, it’s enough to leave 30 thousand people for logging.”

    For this phrase alone, this bad boy should be buried there and right away. A reptile!
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 9 November 2013 07: 26
      10
      He himself should have been sent now to clean the forest after the "procurers", but ufa ...
      1. Migari
        Migari 9 November 2013 13: 16
        +6
        The reformist liberals spawned a whole group of oligarchs who made billions in fortune on the Soviet industrial heritage, which they got for nothing.

        One of these oligarchs, Mr. Prokhorov, is now the leader of the Civic Platform party and the famous "fighter for the happiness of the people."

        Are citizens ready to become “experimental rabbits” again for shock experiments?
      2. bereg
        bereg 9 November 2013 13: 56
        10
        thank you author, without you and you don’t know what’s going on, it’s necessary for all the cities of Russia in detail and with a photo
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 November 2013 07: 45
      +7

      After the elimination of the forest protection service in the spring-summer period, taiga and peat bogs burn around the city. Smoke and smoke from forest fires leads to a high concentration of carbon monoxide, several times higher than the MPC. Visibility on the roads may be less than 100 m.

      The author, do not la la. Can you remind me what kind of fires happened in 1998. The forest guard had nothing to do with it, the foresters would set fire to the forest, then they would buy kopecks for the burnt out taigi for kopecks and cut down everything around it. When it was canceled, the number of fires decreased ten times.


      In the summer of 2012, emissions of “unknown gases” occurred at the Komsomolsk refinery.

      For this, say thanks to Sport, do not recall who voted for him wink

      Not less questions cause actions of local and regional authorities.
      The position of the head of the city since 1991 has been permanently held by an honorary citizen of the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Candidate of Economic Sciences, a member of the party "ER" from 10.02.2006, Vladimir Petrovich Mikhalev.

      And why the hell have you been voting for him for more than 20 years in a row ??????? His place is bigger, but instead he always goes to the polls and you constantly vote for him fool


      For example, V.P. Mikhalev got along well with the well-known criminal authority Yevgeny Vasin (Jem).

      It's not worth dumping everything on Mikhalev, it would be better if they posted photos of the houses where the cops live, who ran with saunas in the sauna. Although they all cooked in the same porridge.

      The influence of “Jam” and the organized criminal group “Obshchak” created by him was very great. Members of the “obshchak” engaged in extortion with impunity, putting under their control or imposing a tribute to many enterprises and many entrepreneurs.
      Including KNAAPO laughing


      Most likely, we will have to get out of the situation with the help of another increase in tariffs, local taxes and excise taxes, which are already among the highest in the country

      There is a way out, to send power to hell. They did not go to the polls and did not vote against Sprat and Mikhalev.
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 9 November 2013 08: 51
        +4
        People no longer believe in anything.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 November 2013 09: 47
          0
          Quote: Bongo
          People no longer believe in anything.

          Well, sit with Mikhalev because you are too lazy to go to the polls and vote against him
          1. koosss
            koosss 9 November 2013 11: 23
            +4
            "and the growth of separatist sentiments"
            and here is just:
            http://topwar.ru/35710-za-separatizm-predlagayut-sazhat-na-20-let.html

            as they say the main thing on time ..
          2. Far East
            Far East 9 November 2013 13: 14
            +5
            DEAR ALEXANDER! what president did you vote for (surname?) like that here! who has more ..... the one in the ladies! I already wrote about the former Ishaev! current sport! all this (GLUK) they scum! No comments! hi
          3. Bongo
            Bongo 10 November 2013 03: 59
            +5
            I have not voted for Mikhalev for 15 years, and for the rest of this company, too.
          4. badger1974
            badger1974 10 November 2013 23: 31
            +6
            I don’t think that it’s worth it, even the voting of the “mighty handful” will not fix anything at all, it’s like we have in Crimea, little by little measures and deputies are firing, but this is not a people’s division, it’s a division, it’s really not necessary to go to the elections, and that’s all as clear as day, everything is already covered with blood, and it could be like that again, but in Komsomolsk, the Russian authorities really don't ... but in vain
        2. Botanologist
          Botanologist 9 November 2013 10: 53
          +4
          Quote: Bongo
          People no longer believe in anything.


          And no one offers to believe. But this is not a reason to be silent, is it? You can safely show your position in the elections. In Yaroslavl 2 a year ago, the authorities simply wore out during the election - but people voted for Urlashov (as another question). And instantly the power changed, including the governor is now new.
          And if you do nothing, then nothing will happen.
        3. timer
          timer 9 November 2013 17: 07
          11
          Unbelief breeds indifference. And the current rotten power is actively using it! I urge everyone to push their disbelief aside and begin to unite against the liberals, otherwise nothing will come out alone. They are still strong. We must remember who we are, and we are patriots of our homeland, and not a consumer flock, as these bastards think about us.
          As a start, I suggest starting correspondence between like-minded people. My mailbox ([email protected])
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 9 November 2013 13: 09
        0
        Alexander, what is the matter with you? Have you never scolded the Jews? Are they completely absent from the Far East?
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 10 November 2013 09: 39
          +4
          There are enough Chinese laughing
      3. 505506
        505506 11 November 2013 02: 50
        +9
        The mayors were appointed by the president, and voted against Sport, but the administrative resource worked, and voters were passive. Plus, aggressive pressure from both the local media and mobile communication operators. In general, again outplayed in all respects. People sitting in the water, walked with dams, and voted for those who arranged it for them.
    3. timer
      timer 9 November 2013 17: 01
      +1
      Not only he is a reptile, but all liberals and shitcrats! This "fifth column" is the worst enemy of the people. The best way to cure us of this infection is to destroy it! Yes, the situation described in the article about the city is Russia in miniature. the same problems and sores (bandits singing with thieves bureaucrats and garbage). I just do not understand why the townspeople choose such a brainless and stupid mayor from year to year ?! while strong. We need to remember who we are, and we are patriots of our homeland, and not the consumer's flock, as these bastards think about us. As a start, I suggest starting a correspondence between like-minded people. My box ([email protected])
  2. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 9 November 2013 07: 22
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    Beyond the distance from Moscow on Komsomolsk-on-Amur, all the disadvantages of Russian cities were concentrated. And behind the "green cabbage" neither people nor their problems are visible ... Sad and sorrowful.
  3. makarov
    makarov 9 November 2013 07: 30
    +2
    Kingdom of heaven to the innocent victims of the Gulag.
    Shame on those who can’t save what they got Dear price !!!
  4. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 9 November 2013 07: 32
    +8
    hi The Far East, under the current policy of the RF Government, is a "risk zone" for Russians, and a favored territory for the Chinese, Amers, Koreans, and Japanese.

    [I]Japanese company Mitsui Busan intends to engage in new investment projects in the Far East - Ministry of Eastern Development[/ I]see http: //trud-ost.ru/? p = 214243

    [I]Medvedev advocates an increase in the number of Russian-Chinese joint ventures in the Far East[/ i] see http://www.zrpress.ru/markets/dalnij-vostok_ 22.10.2013_63078_medvedev-vyst
    up
    aet-za-uvelichenie-chisla-rossijsko-kitajskikh-sp-na-dalnem-vostoke.html


    [I]American companies are ready to invest in infrastructure of the Far East[/ I]
    seehttp: //tcenavoprosa.ru/news_archive/new_detail.php? print = yes & ID = 2606....
    All "sworn friends" need the Russian Far East ... everyone, just not Moscow ..., strange, don't you think .. recourse
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 9 November 2013 08: 03
      +3
      Quote: Valery Neon
      hi All "sworn friends" need the Russian Far East ... everyone, just not Moscow ..., strange, don't you think .. recourse

      Well Duc, do it yourself, wait for returns in the future - probably laziness. It will be easier to cut bills from private traders, and all subsequent negativity can be blamed on them!
  5. kaktus
    kaktus 9 November 2013 07: 42
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    "Unresolved socio-economic problems, low living standards, cut off from the center due to high transport tariffs, lack of attention of the federal authorities to the needs of the Far East - all this leads to an increase in the degree of social discontent and the growth of separatist sentiments."

    So where should the fight against sevratism begin? am
  6. Alikovo
    Alikovo 9 November 2013 07: 46
    +4
    a consequence of the activities of the Chinese (black) lumberjacks. for me, these Chinese lumberjacks should be sentenced to 15 years for damaging nature.
    1. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 9 November 2013 07: 59
      +3
      Our Russian legislation does not provide for this, max what is
      Article 260. Illegal felling of forest stands

      - shall be punished by a fine in the amount of five hundred thousand rubles to one million rubles or in the amount of the convict's wages or other income for a period of three to five years, or by forced labor for a term of up to five years with deprivation of the right to hold certain posts or engage in certain activities for a term up to three years or without it, or by deprivation of liberty for a term of up to six years with deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a period of up to three years or without it.-and that for those a lemon is a "trifle". hi
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 9 November 2013 08: 24
        +1
        In our region, those who punish trees dumped by the wind or left by negligent loggers are punished in this way. Mutually beneficial relations have long been firmly established with those who are engaged in logging professionally, so to speak, professionally. And in Soviet times, for example, sanitary cutting or cleaning from undergrowth paid money.
    2. shaitan
      shaitan 9 November 2013 08: 46
      +3
      In, let them saw in the designated area already officially.
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 9 November 2013 12: 37
        +2
        By professional I meant forest theft on an industrial scale.
    3. alone
      alone 9 November 2013 13: 02
      +6
      Quote: Alikovo
      a consequence of the activities of the Chinese (black) lumberjacks. for me, these Chinese lumberjacks should be sentenced to 15 years for damaging nature.


      someone fantasized yesterday the attack of the Chinese Armed Forces on Russia. why fight? isn’t it already a war. the forest plot in the photo looks like a Vietnamese jungle that Americans burned with napalm. And the strangest thing is that this war is in full swing with the consent of local and federal bureaucrats .
    4. Bongo
      Bongo 11 November 2013 07: 49
      +4
      It is not the "Black" Chinese lumberjacks who leave them behind, the Chinese are doing this with the blessing of our authorities.
  7. patriot2
    patriot2 9 November 2013 07: 55
    11
    What we do not store, having lost - weep.
    The article is correct and it’s a pity that those who depend on the economy and life of people in this region will not read it, and the center does not see and hear anything at all. And behind all the problems - specific people!
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  9. Bigriver
    Bigriver 9 November 2013 08: 33
    -10 qualifying.
    Article .., hmm, such a kind. I do not want to offend the author.
    This is not a look from inside, it is a look through glasses of a certain color.
    Well, how much can you sing about cheap electricity to China? I’d figure it out, eh?
    The connection of hydroelectric station and horseradish hydrology is generally nonsense!
    NEA does not have a state order? And what is the plant currently building, and what will the next 5 years be doing? You are not aware?
    I will not list everything dubious and strange.
    In general, subjective perception mixed up with notions and myths is piled up in the material.
    There is sociology data for Komsomolsk. About 70% of residents positively assess the work of the city administration.
    And the most interesting! The level of social optimism among high school students in Komsomolsk is higher than the same in Khabarovsk.
    You can’t sit down at the keyboard, setting yourself the task of proving the crap life. There are always facts for such a point of view.
    You need to rely on at least some objective things. And if you turn to them, it will become clear that the socio-economic situation in the city is no different from the situation in other similar cities in the Far East. The problems are similar and understandable.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 November 2013 09: 10
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      Quote: BigRiver
      There is sociology data for Komsomolsk. About 70% of residents positively assess the work of the city administration.

      Mikhalev, have you come to the Sait? You will not praise yourself, no one will praise laughing
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 9 November 2013 10: 57
        -12 qualifying.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .Do not praise yourself, no one will praise


        The question is - who is the customer of the article? By the way, you have no elections scheduled for the near future? This explains such "unexpected" insights of journalists.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 November 2013 11: 42
          +6
          Quote: Botanologist
          By the way, you have no elections scheduled for the near future? This explains such "unexpected" insights of journalists.

          There have already been elections, the article says. But such articles are not uncommon, but a regularity for Kosomolsk
        2. Bongo
          Bongo 13 November 2013 06: 19
          +5
          The article was written by an ordinary resident of the city, not a journalist, it is like a cry of the soul ...
    2. alone
      alone 9 November 2013 13: 04
      14
      Quote: BigRiver
      There is sociology data for Komsomolsk. About 70% of residents positively assess the work of the city administration.


      I quite believe. Apparently a poll was conducted in the city administration laughing
  10. Bongo
    Bongo 9 November 2013 08: 47
    +8
    Quote BigRiver6
    The connection of hydroelectric station and horseradish hydrology is generally nonsense!

    And what's the kind of nonsense, do you want to say that the ecology and hydrology in Amur after the construction of hydroelectric power plants have improved?
    NEA leads a miserable existence, the construction of corvettes, which goes shaky, does not help much to such an enterprise.
    From Khabarovsk about the support of Mikhalev by Komsomol members generally judged ridiculous.
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 9 November 2013 08: 51
      -9
      Quote: Bongo
      Quote BigRiver6
      The connection of hydroelectric station and horseradish hydrology is generally nonsense!

      And what's the kind of nonsense, do you want to say that the ecology and hydrology in Amur after the construction of hydroelectric power plants have improved?
      NEA leads a miserable existence, the construction of corvettes, which goes shaky, does not help much to such an enterprise.
      From Khabarovsk about the support of Mikhalev by Komsomol members generally judged ridiculous.

      Hydrology has deteriorated not because of the construction of hydroelectric power stations, but because they are not involved in it.
      Is there an order at NEA, or is it not?
      My opinion is not from Khabarovsk. It is based on documents of the socio-economic situation of the city. Market Institute research conducted. It was made to develop a program for the development of the city.
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 9 November 2013 09: 01
        +6
        And how can you do hydrology, as you imagine it?
        The flooding of large areas really change the climate. Before the flooding, they did not bother to cut down the taiga and all of it went under water. The accumulation of reserves in low-water years actually reduces the water level in low-water years, and the role of hydroelectric power plants in the last flood of hydropower plants is ambiguous.

        My opinion is based on the personal impressions of a resident of Komsomolsk and the opinions of friends and acquaintances. Agree this is a little different than the research paid by the government.

        Production at NEA is conducted, but with great difficulty. I agree with the author of the article-salary really miserable.
        1. Bigriver
          Bigriver 9 November 2013 10: 29
          -5
          Quote: Bongo
          А how can engage in hydrology, how do you imagine this?
          ... and the role in the past flood of the hydroelectric station is ambiguous.

          My opinion based on personal impressions resident of Komsomolsk and the opinions of friends and acquaintances. Agree this is a little different than studies paid by the authorities.

          Also, as they have been doing continuously for decades in the USSR - to study cycles, phenomena, find out patterns, draw conclusions, present their power. All this was almost poher with a reduction in personnel in target institutions.
          The role in the past flood of the hydroelectric station is unambiguous. They played a damping role. And if they were not there, it would be more catastrophic. It’s just that there would be no time for a reaction at all.
          By the way, for your information, the hydrologists themselves, both in the USSR and the current ones, are considering (or) hydroelectric power stations in this capacity as well - a flood dam. They were even recommended, BY THOSE HYDROLOGUES to build in pairs.

          About the opinion.
          You do not see the difference between subjective and objective? Well, you are not a journalist, you are excusable. For the author, this is unforgivable.
          Nevertheless, there is a thing that is unforgivable to everyone laughing This is the desire to hang chips and assessments on a phenomenon about which the subject has no idea at all. This is about "payment".
          Market Institute research is not at all "chocolate", as you for some reason think. By the way, why do you think so?
          I removed only a couple of positive fragments from the work of the institute. But, in general, social. ek. the situation of the city is not at all brilliant, but alarming and unstable.
          And the purpose of my commentary on the article was not to whiten the city authorities.
          I'm just sad from such articles crying We pull out certain facts and on their basis we draw a most creative conclusion - but let's change the power now, eh? Can it get better?
          I repeat the thought expressed above. If the author makes an assessment claiming to be objective, then he must rely on objective facts. Sources - a breakthrough.
          But they are all bought and ordered, right? laughing laughing
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 November 2013 09: 11
        11
        Quote: BigRiver
        and. It is based on documents of the socio-economic situation of the city. Market Institute study conducted

        Have you been to Komsomolsk?
        1. Bigriver
          Bigriver 9 November 2013 10: 35
          -2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Have you been to Komsomolsk?

          I go to work regularly, mostly I go to the prom. enterprises.
          By the way, I met with Sport in 1997, when he was still Ch. KNAAPO engineer.
          A month ago, I spent a day at Amurlitmash and a day at KZPTO (plant of handling equipment).
          He went around everything interesting and not so: workshops, production.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 November 2013 11: 41
            +8
            Quote: BigRiver
            By the way, I got acquainted with Sport in 1997.

            See him, tell me that he ***** negative
            1. Bigriver
              Bigriver 9 November 2013 16: 45
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              See him, tell me that he ***** negative

              Unlikelycrying
              I have not crossed paths with officials and government for the second decade.
              But, I remember if smile
          2. Takashi
            Takashi 9 November 2013 13: 16
            10
            It is a different matter to come on a business trip, live in a hotel \ receive business trips.
            Another - every day to go to work for 15-20 thousand, pay 4 p for 1 square.

            By the way, K is a very cheap city, in comparison with other cities of the Far East. (this is due to low solvency, low salaries).

            Sport - Absl is not respected by the majority of Komsomol residents and Khabarovsk.

            Amurlitmash is strictly speaking Prommash. The company changed its name in 2011-2012 and continues to quietly fall apart. (The collapse begins when various kinds of sharags appear on the territory of any enterprise - such as Smetsenergomontazh and others). This suggests that you are a "passing" person in the life of the city.

            KZPTO (plant of handling equipment) - the plant was in a pre-bankrupt state for a long time, until it was bought by a large company. And now, he is not in the best condition.
            1. Bigriver
              Bigriver 9 November 2013 17: 15
              -8
              Quote: Takashi
              It is a different matter to come on a business trip, live in a hotel \ receive business trips.
              Another - every day to go to work for 15-20 thousand ...

              Talk about a specific article, and not about the fate of individual members of the forum.
              The article is biased, reliable neutral facts are heavily mixed with outright lies and myths. The latter is that which is not proven or unverifiable.
              I will no longer refute and discuss the facts of conscious lies. Suspect of working for power laughing
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 10 November 2013 09: 44
                +4
                And what a lie, if you make such statements, take the trouble to answer. Personally, I agree with the author on 100%. Although you from another city probably know better.
              2. zyablik.olga
                12 November 2013 15: 33
                10
                Specify specifically what lies. And carefully read the title of the article: "view from the inside" Maybe it does not coincide with the official point of view, but I probably know better, because I was born and live in this city, not you.
  11. Bongo
    Bongo 9 November 2013 09: 08
    +2
    I have a question for the residents of the central regions, how much fuel and electricity do you have?
    1. Fin
      Fin 9 November 2013 09: 35
      +6
      Quote: Bongo
      I have a question for residents of central regions, how much does fuel and electricity cost?

      Murmansk:
      electric energy - 2,34 p. for the population;
      AI-95 gasoline - 33,70 r.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 November 2013 09: 48
        +9
        Quote: Fin
        AI-95 gasoline - 33,70 r.

        And in Komsomolsk, the Rosneft refinery makes gas laughing
      2. Bongo
        Bongo 10 November 2013 04: 07
        +4
        Thank you!
        Also, in general, the northern city, feel the difference.
    2. badger1974
      badger1974 10 November 2013 23: 44
      +5
      in Crimea, steppe 10.2 hryvnia-AI-80, 10.6 gr-AI-95, 10.8gr-AI-98 (on average), there are more expensive additives, but this is in the metropolis (Simferopol, Sevastopol) - 1 bucks-approx. 8 hryvnias
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 11 November 2013 00: 55
        0
        Quote: badger1974
        in Crimea steppe 10.2 hryvnia-AI-80
        What else is on sale? In Simferopol, the 80th has already disappeared from sale more than a month ago sad
  12. poccinin
    poccinin 9 November 2013 09: 26
    11
    because of all this, people are leaving for Krasnodar and other regions of RUSSIA.
  13. lotar
    lotar 9 November 2013 11: 20
    +9
    In my opinion, it is not true to consider that the article is frank delirium. It was just that the person expressed soreness and cited the arguments that seemed to her the most convincing. Surely not one has such an opinion and these problems are really present in this region. But the main problem still lies not this, but the frank reluctance of the population itself to do something with all this chaos. It’s an error to believe that people can’t do anything. Lying on the couch and just discussing this topic, he really can’t do anything. Does he own people Do not know what you need to do to change the situation, that is another question vopros.Esli the case, then there are people who can help in this matter and nauchit.Samoe main thing to want to do something, and have everything else will follow.
  14. Algor73
    Algor73 9 November 2013 11: 41
    +7
    Outback is everywhere outback. And here is the climate ... It’s hard. But to hope for an uncle from Moscow that he would come and fix everything was in vain. We need a normal mayor of the city. And this is the business of the city residents themselves.
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 10 November 2013 23: 49
      +4
      there is a taiga, we have a problem of solving high-profile murders, and there is a taiga, and the Ussuri tiger can attack, etc., there was a gang there, "Amur partisans" - destroyed, and so this gang was glorified by the locals, not like our Crimean "Babaks"
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 11 November 2013 07: 52
        +4
        The partisans were "Primorsk", they operated in the "Spask-Shmakovka" area. This is 1000 km south of Komsomolsk.
  15. pavel_1774
    pavel_1774 9 November 2013 15: 07
    +7
    The article is generally correct, although in some places one-sided.
    With regard to fuel and electricity prices, the truth is. In the city, 3 TPPs were converted to gas 10 years ago, which should have had a positive effect on the cost of kilowatt hours, but no! The city has a large oil refinery. In the next few years, it will become 2 times more, but you yourself saw gas prices.
    About the power. Firstly, how the activities of the authorities are covered by the local media. Is heat in homes and electricity flowing smoothly? Merit measure Mikhalev! The city was flooded, but the government was not ready? Hydrologists, padluks, and Mikhalev well done, organized work on the dam. And it’s not for me to tell you how in the last 10 years elections have been held in our country and how the candidates of the well-known party are supported.
    Salaries at the same KnAAPO or shipyard are low, the design engineer is barely 20t.r. receives, and young specialists run west.
    This year a real construction boom! They built 4 or 5 three-story two-door houses on the site of demolished wooden barracks. This is much more than last year's indicators when 1 or 2 houses were built.
    Each beginning of winter is the same for us. In the second half of October, the first snow falls, which melts rather quickly, and ice forms on roads and sidewalks. Then the icy then all winter unsuccessfully cleans heavy equipment, cleans with asphalt. Well, if the arrival of Putin or Medvedev is planned for the summer, then the streets along which the motorcade passes are being hastily repaired.
    In general, it’s good here.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 10 November 2013 09: 46
      +4
      I agree with you - it's good. Only the people leave for some reason. This year more than ever, especially young people.
    2. zyablik.olga
      12 November 2013 15: 43
      10
      Quote: pavel_1774
      This year is a real construction boom! They built 4 or 5 three-storey dvuhpodezdnyh houses on the site of the demolished wooden huts.

      This is a drop in the ocean, but our supermarkets grow like mushrooms after rain. And something I very much doubt that the former inhabitants of the barracks live in these houses. It will be necessary to go and find out.
  16. Sfera
    Sfera 10 November 2013 14: 01
    12
    I am a resident of the Glorious Order-bearing City of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, I completely agree with the article!
    I have heard from Putin about the development of the Far East region for at least 10 years, and that not a small amount of money has been invested in development, but it’s not clear where they are investing, some supermarkets grow current