Battle of Stalingrad (July 1942 - February 1943) through the eyes of German photographers

Aerial photography of Stalingrad during the bombing. Placed aboard the Junkers Ju-87 "Stuck" photographer took pictures during the flight of the bomber

Aerial photography of Stalingrad during the bombing of the Immelman diving bomber squadron STG2

Aerial photography of Stalingrad during the bombing of the Immelman diving bomber squadron STG2

Aerial photography of Stalingrad during the bombing of the Immelman diving bomber squadron STG2

Aerial photography of Stalingrad during the bombing of the Immelman diving bomber squadron STG2

Aerial photography of Stalingrad during the bombing of the Immelman diving bomber squadron STG2

Elevator, located south of Stalingrad. It was an important reference point for artillery and German bombers.

Elevator, located south of Stalingrad. It was an important reference point for artillery and German bombers.

Aerial photography of Stalingrad during the bombing of the Immelman diving bomber squadron STG2

Squadron of dive bombers STG2 "Immelman"

Bombers Junkers Ju-87 squadron "Immelman" during the flight to Stalingrad

Bombers Junkers Ju-87 squadron "Immelman" on the way back from Stalingrad

Ernst Kupfer, the leader of the squadron "Immelman"

Ernst Kupfer, the leader of the squadron "Immelman"

Hubertus von Bonin, commander of the third group of 52 th fighter squadron. Return from the flight assignment where 30 won the victory

Fighter Messerschmitt Bf.109 Hubertus von Bonin

Messerschmitt fighter Bf.109 and commander of the third group of 52 th fighter squadron Hubertus von Bonin

Messerschmitt fighter Bf.109 from the third group of the 52 th fighter squadron and support technicians

Messerschmitt fighter Bf.109 from the third group of the 52 th fighter squadron and support technicians

Messerschmitt fighter Bf.109 from the third group of the 52 th fighter squadron and support technicians

View of Stalingrad from the banks of the Volga. This photo was taken from the defensive positions of the rifle division of the German Air Force.

During the fighting in the south of Stalingrad, soldiers from the German DCA, armed with machine guns MP-40 and MP-34, roam the ruins

During the fighting in the south of Stalingrad, soldiers from the German DCA, armed with machine guns MP-40 and MP-34, roam the ruins

During the fighting in the south of Stalingrad, soldiers from the German DCA, armed with machine guns MP-40 and MP-34, roam the ruins

At the German airfield, the wounded are loaded onto a Junkers Ju-52 transport aircraft. Ober Lieutenant is waiting for his turn

At the German aerodrome, the wounded are loaded onto Junkers Ju-52 transport aircraft.

During the fighting in the south of Stalingrad. The picture shows the gunners, probably, DCA, 5-th regiment of the German Air Force

Refugees leave the war zone

Assembly point for evacuees

The retreat of the units after the battle of Nikolaevka. The photo shows the remains of the Italian Alpine Second Division and the 24 of the German Army Corps.

Comments

[TRex]

The last photo is especially enjoyable.

[Akhtuba73]

Quote: TRex

The last photo is especially enjoyable.

the story does not end there

[Akhtuba73]

Sorry, I can’t attach the photo from the computer

Quote: Akhtuba73

Quote: TRex
The last photo is especially enjoyable.

the story does not end there

[Rambiaka]

Broke your German teeth! Let your allies talk about it more often!

[Uhe]

Unfortunately, in the strategic plan, that is, in the lengthy time, the Germans defeat us. To do this, just look at the map of the Slavic state of the 8-12 centuries and the current one. We lost all of Europe, although before it almost all belonged to us, the Slavs. And the Saxons were our allies. But in the tactical, that is, in the short-term, we always beat them and we will beat them.

We lose because we are too fragmented and rarely unite together and because we are too disorderly. But this is our strength for tactical victories.

In general, only the Russians, that is, the descendants of the Eastern Slavs led by the Slavic Slavs of the Rus, were able to create a state that has more or less resisted the Germans for 13 centuries. And the history of the USSR shows that just Russians think strategically, therefore they are quite capable of resisting the Germans and their current incarnation - the so-called Anglo-Saxons (although neither Angles nor Saxons are among them :)). If not for this eternal indifference of ours ...

[528Obrp]

Quote: Uhe

Unfortunately, in the strategic plan, that is, in the lengthy time, the Germans defeat us.

And if you look at the East far beyond the Urals?

[revnagan]

Quote: Uhe

We lose because we are too fragmented and rarely unite together and because we are too disorderly.

And also because they are too kind to the vanquished. It is necessary that they restore their population for centuries, otherwise it turns out - they can exterminate us talk, but we cannot touch them, it is inhumane! Peaceful, understand, the population ... No, "Woe defeated. "Look, how well they did with the Khazars, with the Pechenegs ..." And the rest of them run around the world to this day. "This is the only way. Otherwise, even winning, we can disappear.

[Andrey Skokovsky]

Quote: Uhe

Unfortunately, in the strategic plan, that is, in the lengthy time, the Germans defeat us. To do this, just look at the map of the Slavic state of the 8-12 centuries and the current one. We lost all of Europe, although before it almost all belonged to us, the Slavs. And the Saxons were our allies. But in the tactical, that is, in the short-term, we always beat them and we will beat them.

We lose because we are too fragmented and rarely unite together and because we are too disorderly. But this is our strength for tactical victories.

In general, only the Russians, that is, the descendants of the Eastern Slavs led by the Slavic Slavs of the Rus, were able to create a state that has more or less resisted the Germans for 13 centuries. And the history of the USSR shows that just Russians think strategically, therefore they are quite capable of resisting the Germans and their current incarnation - the so-called Anglo-Saxons (although neither Angles nor Saxons are among them :)). If not for this eternal indifference of ours ...

you wrote some kind of porridge

1 Germany, as we know it, was actually created by Bismarck under the leadership of the enemies of Russia and as its potential adversary, before Bismarck it is some kind of mess from a pile of small states

2, unlike Europe, in Russia there is a really working mechanism for creating a multinational state, I somehow do not see the German-French or Austrian-Italian state
these are different nations
but the state based on the countries that emerged on the site of the destroyed USSR, I quite even see, maybe we are similar to each other mentally, we have gathered for centuries into one state entity, the easiest way is to call the republics of the USSR with the words "Russian world"

[Rinat 1]

I put a plus article. You can see which Germans were at the beginning of the battle and with what doglike appearance they leave at the end. Glory to our fathers and grandfathers who broke their ridge

[Kolya]

And how much it was necessary to rebuild !!! The economy of the USSR was strong. Anyone who says that that economic system was not capable is lying!

[Corsair]

Quote: Kohl

And how much it was necessary to rebuild !!! The economy of the USSR was strong. Anyone who says that that economic system was not capable is lying!

[Tyumen]

Corsair, and what did you mean by that? After all, Khrushchevka was immediately lined up in the Union, and people had a place to wait.

[Corsair]

Quote: Tyumen

Corsair, and what did you mean by that? After all, Khrushchevka was immediately lined up in the Union, and people had a place to wait.

"Khrushchevs" were built much later (for the sake of historical truth).
But the revival of Stalingrad began IMMEDIATELY after the expulsion of the German invaders and their satellites. The whole wounded country helped the revival of the hero city.

It is extremely incomprehensible your UNDERSTANDING about my comment ...

[Uhe]

Plans to build affordable housing emerged under Stalin. Khrushchev simply implemented this project in a simplified form. Pay attention to the 12-storey towers that look like "Khrushchevs" - they began to be built under Stalin. Khrushchevs is a simplified design of these towers.

In general, this idea, as I understand it, was taken from the Germans. They built their living quarters for the workers like this. As a temporary solution, as intended, there was a good solution to resettle people from the barracks and basements. But the temporary, unfortunately, became long-term because of Khrushchev, who destroyed the Stalinist model of the economy. Only under the late Brezhnev did they begin to build high-comfort housing with great speed and create plans for the resettlement of people from the "Khrushchevs". Did not make it. In Moscow, Luzhkov partially fulfilled this plan, but in extremely insufficient numbers. And now they completely abandoned it - suddenly the bourgeoisie won't have enough money for Kurshaveli;)

[Corsair]

Quote: Uhe

In general, this idea, as I understand it, was taken from the Germans. They built their residential blocks for workers in this form.

Khrushchev "brought" the idea of ​​building panel houses from France, where he was on a visit, and where he was shown quarters of "cheap and affordable housing" for migrants from the Middle East and North Africa ...

[kaktus]

And in the USSR, such houses were moved from barracks, a hostel and communal

[Day 11]

The answer is not correct. The idea is French, I agree. But the story is like this - Stalin learned about the construction of cheap housing in France and called Professor Karasev from the construction industry and set the task of going to France and see what was happening. and then the construction of factories for the production of panels began. But, by the beginning of the construction of houses, the Great Man died. And this "bald asshole" Nikita rightly attributed the authorship to himself ... Such cases

[Uhe]

So the same Japanese do not hide that they adopted the Stalinist model of the economy. It was she who helped them make an economic breakthrough. But Khrushchev abandoned it and the political system, concentrating power in the hands of the nascent partocracy, so the country rolled into the abyss.

By the way, the Stalinist model of the economy came up with Ascension. And it was his death (some believe that he was intentionally killed with the participation of Beria, Khrushchev and Malenkov, although Voznesensky was undoubtedly guilty, but not so much as to shoot him, and Stalin did not want to) that became a turning point in the sunset of the USSR, as I now seen.

[George]

Quote: Kohl

And how much it was necessary to rebuild !!!

Who broke, he built

[Walker1975]

Yes. A plus. And also ... the first photos were struck - I thought Stalingrad was more densely built up, and there were such empty spaces ... How did you have to hold the defense there?

[Stiletto]

What disgusting Foschist faces!

[Uhe]

Schercheloveki, huh :)))

As I understand it, they also knocked out the color of the people at the beginning of the war, as we do. It is not for nothing that the British and Americans pushed us together with their foreheads — precisely so that we would destroy each other. And in war, the strongest people always die, so the gene pool is knocked out. Any war is genocide, in modern language. For him, it is necessary to punish more instigators, not performers.

[kaktus]

Yeah .. but they are also with them fans

[Boris55]

Here in this form they look more beautiful:

[Aydar]

captured soldiers look equally depressed, like the Soviet in 1941, as did the British and the French according to Dieppe and Dunkirk.

[aszzz888]

Scary shots of war!

[ed65b]

Urgently send the article to Fede Bondarchuk. Let him see, although it’s too late. Glory to our grandfathers for the feat.

[танк]

Do not compare a real war with a feature film, this is at least stupid. I repeat, THIS IS A FEATURE FILM, not a documentary !!! The film is called "Stalingrad", not "The Battle of Stalingrad". And this film is very popular and beats all ratings. a person is not difficult, it is difficult to take and shoot a good film.
In the Rambo film, one soldier killed almost the entire Soviet army, and everyone looked and smiled at nothing.
Have you ever been to the cinema at this film? I was honestly with me, an adult man got a tear, women came out with tears, I saw it personally !!! If you show how it was in reality, not all of it will stand ..

[Albert1988]

I fully support you! Bondarchuk’s film is not primarily about the battle, but about the people who participated in this battle one way or another, about a small episode in this colossal battle. Moreover - the film is framed as a retelling by the Russian rescuer of those memories that his mother shared with him! By the way, he continues the bright tradition of old Soviet films about the war, which were actually about people in the war, and not about the war itself.
And then - at the beginning of the film they show, albeit very briefly, a panorama of the burning city, which, incidentally, is one-to-one that copies what we see in the photographs in this article, the question remains - what do people not like?

[loft79]

Quote: tank

I repeat, THIS IS A FEATURE FILM, not a documentary !!! The film is called "Stalingrad", not "Battle of Stalingrad"

So the whole point is that when the word "Stalingrad", the concepts of "love", "relationships between people", etc. do not pop up in people's heads. "The bloodiest battle" pops up in people's minds. Therefore the result: disappointment. IMHO.

[Albert1988]

Quote: loft79

So the whole point is that when the word "Stalingrad", the concepts of "love", "relationships between people" do not pop up in people's heads.

That you are right, BUT! Is it strange that people don’t have an episode like Pavlov’s House? But the analogy with the naked eye is visible!

And as for me, so "bloody battle" can be perfectly seen in any plotless American action movie.
And personally, as a representative of the younger generation, I am already disgusted with films about "Shooting, Explosions and Guts" and I want to watch films that would show the characters of people, because war is the best way to reveal a human character!

[Boris55]

Veteran of the Battle of Stalingrad Stalingrad
Alexander Fedorovich commanded a tank in Stalingrad. Together with him we watched the new film by Fyodor Bondarchuk "Stalingrad", and asked the veteran what he thinks about this picture.

[123dv]

Well done, grandfather, fighting man!
Still alive veterans, thank God. There is still someone to tell how it really was.

[kaktus]

Probably already great-grandfather. And in 1942 he was 19 years old

[Bigriver]

Quote: Boris55

Veteran of the Battle of Stalingrad Stalingrad
Alexander Fedorovich ...

An interesting moment at 6:08.

Airplanes over Stalingrad did not dive ..., they took 5 km altitude, not lower ...

Although, the time of work of the "Immelman" squadron and the time of service of Alexander Fedorovich coincide - autumn 42nd.

[Stas57]

Although, the time of work of the "Immelman" squadron and the time of service of Alexander Fedorovich coincide - autumn 42nd.

I also noticed this, although human memory is not ideal

[123dv]

Airplanes over Stalingrad did not dive ..., they took 5 km altitude, not lower ...
......................................................
The fact is that the air defense during the defense of Stalingrad was very significant and flying low was not only not safe, but also forbidden. Our German partners (as it’s now customary to say), very punctual people, it’s said that they didn’t fly below 5 thousand, they didn’t fly, but this is already in progress ... And at the very beginning near Stalingrad they suffered such losses from dense anti-aircraft fire from the ground that they didn’t think enough.

[Bigriver]

Quote: 123dv

... The fact is that the air defense during the defense of Stalingrad was very substantial and flying low was not only not safe, but also forbidden. Our German partners (as it is customary to say now), very punctual people, it’s said that you don’t fly below 5 thousand, you don’t fly, ..

Where did you get this from? About what was forbidden? The link would be interesting.
They flew a lot. A bunch of materials on this topic, including photos of diving Junkers-88/87. The most massive bombing of the city of August 23 is known. About 2000 sorties of the 88th and 87th !!!
And the decrease in German air activity by October-November 42 was explained not by powerful air defense, but by the outline of the front edge, which simply could not be guessed or marked in the city.

[123dv]

Quote: BigRiver

About what was forbidden?

Alas, I did not have time to fix it.

[tooth46]

Somewhere there, with my back to the Volga, near Beketovka, my father is in the 62 army.
About the dive of German planes: according to my father, the Ju-87 attacked our positions, including from minimal heights, and how. Since that time, he had an injury to his little finger on his hand - sitting at the bottom of the trench with a degtyarev light machine gun, he tried to drive off the Yu-87 diving on them in a long line, aiming at the very "sniffer" along the route. At the same time, unsuccessfully, in the heat of battle, he grabbed the machine gun so that the bolt handle hit the finger during firing. German fighters also scoffed, sneaking at low level. Our planes were practically not seen until December 1942. They defended themselves from German aviation, mainly by anti-aircraft guns, where they were, and more with their small arms.
I noticed how the wounded German officer, who was awaiting evacuation, was packed and equipped. All his belongings are neatly stacked nearby. Ordnung, however! We can conclude about their medical service.

[Hudo]

Quote: zub46

I noticed how the wounded German officer, who was awaiting evacuation, was packed and equipped. All his belongings are neatly stacked nearby. Ordnung, however! We can conclude about their medical service.

During World War II, Hitler was very "concerned" about the health of his soldiers on the Eastern Front. Maybe that's why the German army fought three Russian winters in demi-season overcoats. Each soldier of the Wehrmacht was given monthly bags of dust, so that bedbugs and lice would not distract them from the main one, and a pack of condoms so that the brave descendants of the knight dogs would not pick up a “French cold”.

But Dust absolutely did not take a small bloodsucker. Nimble parasites could only be overcome by a Russian bathhouse with its one hundred degrees and a frying pan for disinfection of uniforms.

However, in the German army the state did not even have a hint of the bath and laundry units that were in the Red Army. But the Germans had available mobile sausage, where they smoked sausages. How can you fight without them ?!

But the presence of gluttonous creatures in German riding breeches was half the trouble. Lice are known to be carriers of the rash. The German army throughout the war was a huge breeding ground for typhus and other infections. So, in one of the secret orders for the 9th Army (Army Group Center) dated December 15, 1942, it was stated: “Recently, in the area of ​​the army, the number of cases of typhus has almost reached the number of wounded.” In peak Wehrmacht, the Red Army went through a war without epidemics of infectious diseases.

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

Disagree....... take a look at the Doc film The Great War, everything was perfectly told about aviation in the Battle of Stalingrad, the fact is that the Soviet troops initially suffered huge losses from the Luftwaffe, .. a solution was found, the commanders were ordered to be in close contact to the enemy, that is, mixed, our house, their house, and even in the same house floor-by-floor ....... after that the Wehrmacht abandoned the Henkels, Yu-88, etc. (i.e. ordinary bombers) and switched to the use of the Yu-87 Piece, which from dive acted more selectively ....

[STALGRAD76]

All the same, what are healthy grandfathers, glory to the heroes !!!!

[Walker1975]

Well done grandfather! He laid out everything ... the director didn’t show where the troops were and where the German were incomprehensible ... one confusion ... the battles were illiterate ... and why did the director make the film? Show debauchery? Now and so what the film is not being shot about ... you need to show the bed. Ugh.

The second shell and no one came up :)

[Albert1988]

Quote: Walker1975

Show debauchery? Now and so what the film is not being shot about ... you need to show the bed. Ugh.

Mmm, can you ask - where is the debauchery? Just so no "strawberries" and did not show, which is undoubtedly a big plus. And what was shown - so sorry, how else to show that the German "animal" raped the poor girl?

[Walker1975]

Quote: Albert1988

And what was shown - so sorry, how else to show that the German "animal" raped the poor girl?

Why show it at all? It is important? Without this, the viewer will not have a complete picture of the Battle of Stalingrad?

[Albert1988]

Quote: Walker1975

Why show it at all?

But this is just designed for the Western viewer - let him see how the "noble Teutonic knights behaved without fear and reproach"! Let the Gayropeans see - their nowadays praised overly brave civilized soldiers of the Wehrmacht are animals. Do not forget that the film will be shown at them, and poking their noses in their own G is the right move.

[Dovmont]

The Major General is 100 times right !! Fedka did not want to film the truth about our Stalingrad! He is trying to become famous in the Western film market, so he removes such vomit. He and in the "9th company" the Soviet Army crap from the top shelf, showing some kind of half-bandit detachment under the command of a silly sergeant. he, this Fedka, is a stranger to us, mankurt!

[krpmlws]

Whose money does Bondarchuk Jr. make films for? He works out his silver-judas. The 9th company looked at him, it became clear what kind of fruit he would be shooting and what kind of films he would make in the future.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Dovmont

He is trying to become famous in the Western film market, because he removes such vomit.

Dear Dovmont - let me ask you - have you watched the film? It's just that I just saw in this film the undisguised trolling of the Germans - which is what only the captain, twice almost alone and with nothing to do with the failed assault on the house, in which a handful of our fighters sat down! It is clear from the film - that nemchura is capable of blaming the civilian population with a bang, but when faced with the courage of ours, he instantly gives in, and why say "vomit"?

[Tyumen]

I noticed that all the Junkers (bombing Stalingrad) were already without bombs.
On a safe territory took pictures, show-offs?

[Corsair]

Quote: Tyumen

I noticed that all the Junkers (bombing Stalingrad) were already without bombs.
On a safe territory took pictures, show-offs?

Such a raccourse, from the point of view of historical truth, is more relevant ... This is also Stalingrad.

[Tyumen]

In my opinion, this Junkers simply lies on the ruins of a building.
To be honest, I did not understand your comment.

[avt]

Quote: Tyumen

In my opinion, this Junkers simply lies on the ruins of a building.

Bf-109, probably F

[Day 11]

"Team hodgepodge" -100%

[Corsair]

Quote: Tyumen

In my opinion, this Junkers simply lies on the ruins of a building.
To be honest, I did not understand your comment.

Messerschmitt Bf.109 ...

Quote: Tyumen

Corsair, and what did you mean by that? After all, Khrushchevka was immediately lined up in the Union, and people had a place to wait.

Well, are you so dull ???

[Day 11]

This is also a window dressing - "hodgepodge" (the remains of different boards). You can minus --- who knows this in the subject (famous propaganda photo)

[Day 11]

He is. "We blinded him out of what was ..."

[Day 11]

As for propaganda. I’m not saying that it’s bad. On the photo-classic of the decree!

[Aydar]

probably a production photo, the fuselage was probably installed by a crane, if it falls at such an angle, an explosion is inevitable, or at least the entire front part would be crushed into dust.

[Day 11]

Almost right. I sat on my belly.

[Aubert]

On the 10 photo in the center, the Stucks lack chassis fairings. The mechanics forgot to put in? Where is the vaunted pedantry?

[Corsair]

Quote: Aubert

On the 10 photo in the center, the Stucks lack chassis fairings. The mechanics forgot to put in? Where is the vaunted pedantry?

In the conditions of "work" from poorly prepared unpaved airfields, there was no time for "pedantry" ...
"Lapti" (landing gear fairings) were "thrown off" to prevent clogging with dirt.

[Corsair]

Quote: Aubert

On the 10 photo in the center, the Stucks lack chassis fairings. The mechanics forgot to put in? Where is the vaunted pedantry?

In the conditions of "work" from poorly prepared unpaved airfields, there was no time for "pedantry" ...
"Lapti" (landing gear fairings) were "thrown off" to prevent clogging with dirt.

[Tyumen]

There was General Frost, now General Dirt will appear. And foreigners do not think why a Russian peasant
Is death worth your land? Yes, because he does not need foreign values ​​..

[The gentleman]

this is a story, a story you need to know that the children saw the reality of the cruelty of the West, war ... thanks
interesting and who put a minus article

[mithridate]

probably minus put the article someone from liberalistic slurped

[The gentleman]

Quote: Mithridates

probably minus put the article someone from liberalistic slurped

ridiculously simple. With this method they try to show their disagreement.

[Andreitas]

I don’t understand why one of the chances that walks in the ruins, fastened a tie. Gathered to the parade.

[Poppy]

this is an officer because
and in general the photographs were taken clearly behind the production lines, there is no kit on the soldiers

[Grbear]

These and other war photographs should be hung before the showing of the film "Stalingrad" abroad, which "forgets" the truth. Let it be largely commercial (a tribute to the "liberals"), but in such a tandem - a bomb.

[avt]

Quote: Aubert

. Mechanics forgot to put?

No, they flew without bast shoes.

Quote: Andreitas

I don’t understand why one of the chances that walks in the ruins, fastened a tie.

So this is a pontyar from some kind of airfield service, then I suppose he sent a letter home with a photo - “I am writing my liber on the armor of a burning tank.” I wish I could see him in winter, when our tanks were ironing the airfields and the tails of their planes were crushing.

[Tyumen]

Mayne Liber, I took a handkerchief from a Russian peasant woman, and shook it. give them your dumb head.
Why didn’t I listen to Bismarck!?

[Aydar]

Luftwaffe airfield connections were supplied according to the norms of the Luftwaffe and not the Wehrmacht. Therefore, a tie is part of the statutory field form of the Luftwaffe.

[Djozz]

Yes, the pictures of especially destroyed factories and huts are impressive, now it is clear with your own eyes why the Germans called the battles for Stalingrad a "rat war"!

[Marek Rozny]

To be honest, Stalingrad has always seemed to me a city of high-rise buildings. And here in the panorama I see that the main housing stock consisted of one-story, two-story buildings. I eliminated a small "white spot" for myself.

[Ascetic]

Quote: Marek Rozny

To be honest, Stalingrad has always seemed to me a city of high-rise buildings. And here in the panorama I see that the main housing stock consisted of one-story, two-story buildings. I eliminated a small "white spot" for myself.

Here in the photo it is completely destroyed. Here is the pre-war Stalingrad. On video from 1:34



Soviet newsreel footage on Yandex video here

[smart ass]

Urgently show the pictures to Mr. Bondarchuk

[Asan Ata]

Terrifying land, all in the craters ...

[Black]

Quote: Asan Ata

Terrifying land, all in the craters ...

A house on the bank of the Wet Mosque .... I took a metal detector from the neighbors' boys. The whole earth is still "groaning" in different voices.

[Yun Klob]

In the photographs there are two fairly fascist pilots:

ERNST KUPFER - On 6 on November 1943, the Non-111H-6 bomber with Kupfer (as a passenger) on board flew from Thessaloniki back to Germany, but by the appointed time he had not arrived at the airport. Only on November 17 were its fragments found on the slope of Belasica Mountain, 60 km north of Thessaloniki. All six people aboard the Heinkel, including Lieutenant Kupfer, were killed. The commission that conducted the investigation found that the most likely cause of the disaster was that, in bad weather conditions, the Heinkel pilot deviated from the course and the plane crashed into a mountainside.

BOININ HUBERTUS - December 15 1943 was shot down in battle with the Yak-9. A plane in 13.39 crashed 7 km east of Gorodok, and von Bonin died.

[Albert1988]

As they say the Fritzes got "their")))

[kaktus]

"Serves you right, shark, serves you right!" K. Chukovsky

[Black]

Quote: tank

It is not difficult to crap a person; it is difficult to take and make a good film.

He himself managed the most
The same as the elder, having removed "Quiet Don", where Grigory Melekhov played an active pid + r.
And you shouldn't cover up this figure with ratings. Santa Barbara's rating was an order of magnitude higher. And to hell with her, the series was not called "Stalingrad" !!

[Djozz]

Sergei Gerasimov, who shot the film "Quiet Don", begged Bondarchuk - the elder one not to shoot a new version of "Quiet Don" during his lifetime, as he looked into the water, it turned out, even then, and the youngest Bondarchuk completely finished the film his editorial office!

[avt]

Quote: Chen

But ratings do not cover this figure.

To be honest, I only watched the trailer and somehow I was reluctant to go to the cinema and watch, albeit a technically sophisticated film. Just after “They fought for the Motherland”, where really strong actors showed their character, and not just sparkled with their faces or genitals, well, they didn’t pull me to watch. "As it is, well, not very ... Well, Bondarchukovy, Quiet Don" was really in vain, they found "when he" disappeared ".

[Day 11]

I listened to this comrade and the desire to watch somehow disappeared. No, it was, but somewhere disappeared. [Media = http: //oper.ru/video/iframe.php? T = 582]

[Albert1988]

Quote: avt

Honestly, I watched only the trailer and somehow go to the cinema and watch, albeit technically sophisticated film, reluctance

But I really advise you to look at it: as I saw the trailer and read the description, I was overwhelmed with skepticism, given that director Bondarchuk is the youngest, but after watching the film, I radically changed my opinion ...
Yes, you are right - the current actors cannot compare with the actors who played in "They Fought for the Motherland", but in "Stalingrad" they really try to play their roles, and most importantly, they play MUCH better than all these Bezrukovs, Mashkovs, etc. .d. which play themselves, and do not even try to get used to the role. And by the way - no one sparkles with genitals in the film, there are no pink snot either.
Of course, "Stalingrad" cannot be compared with the old Soviet films, BUT! - it is AN ORDER better than all our modern films about the war, and most importantly - it perfectly conveys the atmosphere, so I strongly advise you to watch it, especially in 3D - here it really works, you directly feel yourself next to ours "in the same trench"

[nnz226]

They started like this, and then we buried almost all of them !!! It is not for nothing that the word "Stalingrad" makes the nemchur shudder!

[revnagan]

I didn’t like it. There were even a few wounded waiting for evacuation. I really hope that the lieutenant did not wait ...

[ko88]

At the beginning, the Fritz had bad faces, but .. the music played for a short time. On the lower photos among the refugees, it would seem healthy men, why not at the front?

[Alex 241]

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[INV]

Incidentally, the elevator, which is in the first photographs, exists now. And not as a monument, but as an elevator. But a monument dedicated to his defense stands near him. As I go to the center, I constantly drive past him.

[INV]

Incidentally, the elevator, which is in the first photographs, exists now. And not as a monument, but as an elevator. But a monument dedicated to his defense stands near him. As I go to the center, I constantly drive past him.

[Aydar]

the German in the photo competently holds the MP-38 for the fore-end, it was just as recommended to hold this weapon, and not as in the Soviet films for the store. Enough for the store, especially when firing in bursts, entails loosening the store and disrupting the supply of cartridges, which leads to misfires.

[Fobos-grunt]

In battle, the Germans did not always take their "maquino" correctly, but "in action" they always opened the folded butt of the MP-38/40 submachine gun

[Fobos-grunt]

They didn’t want to open the butt of MP-40 in Soviet cinema. It is possible that a submachine gun pressed to their face would not hide the brutal expression on the face of the fascist ... and in the new “Stalingrad” (judging by the trailer) they do not want to open the butt. It's a shame ... And also professionals!
I am disappointed with the new Russian cinema ... Do not judge strictly ...

[Aydar]

this is understandable, since the caliber of 9 mm gives tangible returns, without a spread butt, aiming shooting is impossible. That is why the MP-41 was designed. By the way, the shoulder support of the MP-39 migrated unchanged to AKMS, copy to copy.

[Corsair]

Quote: Aydar

By the way, the shoulder support of the MP-39 without any changes migrated to AKMS, copy to copy.

At first, a similar "butt" was used in PPS43, with the only difference that it folded on the "top" of the receiver, and not under it.

And in general, "invention of the bicycle" is a useless and stupid business ...

[Day 11]

Warriors x ... you! Romanians in Stalingrad. Who will determine the type of machine gun?

[Alex 241]

Bren ......................

[Day 11]

Hey. ZB 30

[Alex 241]

What is one and the same: in England it was produced under the brand name.

[Day 11]

I agree. Bren, from the word BRNO

[Bigriver]

Quote: Alex 241

What is one and the same: in England it was produced under the brand name.

ZB-26 (30) is a prototype of Bren.
On Bren there is no barrel finning and, as a rule, a store for 30 rounds.
In the photo is the classic 26th, with a magazine for 20 rounds. Nearby should be a box of 6 stores.
In parts of the SS he was actively used. Acromia Romanians, Francs, Slovaks and other half-witted people :)

[loft79]

Alex 241 + for fun and resourcefulness

[Aydar]

this is not Bren, but the French Chatellerault in person.

[tooth46]

Bren's machine gun? Or "Czech Zbroevka?"

[Aydar]

this is Chatellerault

[GEO]

Quote: Uhe

Unfortunately, in the strategic plan, that is, in the lengthy time, the Germans defeat us. To do this, just look at the map of the Slavic state of the 8-12 centuries and the current one. We lost all of Europe, although before it almost all belonged to us, the Slavs. And the Saxons were our allies. But in the tactical, that is, in the short-term, we always beat them and we will beat them.

We lose because we are too fragmented and rarely unite together and because we are too disorderly. But this is our strength for tactical victories.

In general, only the Russians, that is, the descendants of the Eastern Slavs led by the Slavic Slavs of the Rus, were able to create a state that has more or less resisted the Germans for 13 centuries. And the history of the USSR shows that just Russians think strategically, therefore they are quite capable of resisting the Germans and their current incarnation - the so-called Anglo-Saxons (although neither Angles nor Saxons are among them :)). If not for this eternal indifference of ours ...

Berlin is already a branch of Istanbul, what are you talking about ?!

[GEO]

Quote: ko88

At the beginning, the Fritz had bad faces, but .. the music played for a short time. On the lower photos among the refugees, it would seem healthy men, why not at the front?

also thought about it ...

[sak1969]

During the fighting in the south of Stalingrad, soldiers from the German DCA, armed with MP-40 and MP-34 assault rifles, roam the ruins.
Fake photos. Explicit photo montage!

[Bigriver]

Quote: sak1969

... fake photos. Explicit photo montage!

Well, keep a stated topic
What did you find inconsistent with your reality?

[Bigriver]

Quote: zub46

Bren's machine gun? Or "Czech Zbroevka?"

Bren is a joint venture.
And ZB is a purely national enterprise.
So ok?

[Aydar]

This is not Bren, but Chatellerault.

[Aydar]

Hubertus von Bonin Hungarian? Why are there Hungarian crosses on his plane?

[George]

One of the main photos, the truth through the eyes and lens of our photographers.

[Albert1988]

Quote: GEORGE

the truth through the eyes and lens of our photographers.

And then this "truth" was settled in a prisoner of war camp in the small town of Krasnogorsk near Moscow, but not in a common barrack, but in a separate house, my grandfather, being a boy, repeatedly saw the "truth" while walking under an escort of machine gunners, albeit from afar ...

[George]

Eugene ,
It’s good that we preserved this truth to Nuremberg, because we thought that the worms were already eating Paulus, but no, get it and sign it.

[Albert1988]

Well, we don’t mean evil people at all, we well contain prisoners: here, grandfather recalled how they tattered little boys with small and terribly sour apples from wild apple trees (there was a former landowner garden, they’ve already cut it all out) and threw prisoners behind the camp’s fence, also often they threw frogs there (the prisoners ’meat could be said to have no meat at all), and the prisoners threw them in response - CHOCOLATES !!! So, so the captured Germans and samurai lived in captivity with us.
Or here's another story - great-grandmother and great-grandfather lived in the same city, the Germans built houses for them (they still stand - purely "European"-looking houses ) and one German who was running the stove and they turned out to be a military doctor, and when my grandmother's sister had an abscess on her finger, he cured him very quickly. And when the "Fritz" was already leaving home for Germany, the great-grandmother gathered vegetables for him, crackers, in general, not such a frail "ration" and this German just knelt in front of her, so this is the kind of people we are

[George]

I agree, we are a hardworking people.
The same Paulus when asked at the N. process of nutrition in captivity said:
- I eat better than Soviet children.

[Albert1988]

Well, that's precisely our unique national feature - where else can you find a people who can break any conqueror, but at the same time maintain a human attitude towards him?

[Prapor-527]

And how many bolts they deservedly received in their ass? ...

[Albert1988]

Quote: Prapor-527

And how many bolts they deservedly received in their ass? ...

Well, how much is unknown, but they still pull it out

[drop]

With a shudder, bitterness and pain, he looked at the photo where the Nazis roamed the ruins and refugees left the war zone. I lost my many relatives during the war; they defended our Motherland. After the 7 class, he began to study at a military school and already in 19 years he was a lieutenant. The school was taught a course of aircraft engines by specialists who prepared our TB-3 in July and August 1941 of the year for the bombing of Berlin. We young cadets still could not understand why the Supreme Commander I.V. Stalin instructed simply to use high-explosive bombs to bombard the capital of these monsters, and not to destroy them with biological weapons that were in the USSR. Then there would not be these terrible photographs where our compatriots are represented in suffering. The fascists for their atrocities and for the attack on the USSR would have to be all destroyed. I will not cite facts about our retaliatory strikes; some of them are worthy of respect as retaliation.

[jjj]

There is also a purely German film "Stalingrad" in several episodes. There is generally shown hell. If the Germans make such films about themselves, then they have been applied very well.
About Bondarchuk's "Stalingrad". I will watch on TV. I understand that this can be a modern film language. That it is now necessary to shoot so that young people understand. But there is one but. Here are everyone who went and looked, what is the main feeling you have left after the painting? The abundance of colorful scenes and special effects break through the psychological defense of a person and the idea hidden behind them freely penetrates the subconscious. Judging by the way the viewers come out, the psychological impact was very strong. So, what idea remains in the minds here? Tell those who watched.

[Aydar]

in the German film Stalingrad the image of the German soldier is too romanticized, heroized, more like something like All Quiet on the Western Front, this film is biased and overly pompous.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Aydar

this film is biased and too pompous.

Well, what else to expect from the Germans?

[Albert1988]

Quote: jjj

So, what idea remains in mind here? Watching tell.

The idea is simple - we won’t win! - this is the main idea! We will fight for a simple house more fiercely than the enemy for our own capital.
In general, there are many "ideological layers" in the film.

[Evgan]

This photo was taken from the defensive positions of the German Air Force infantry division

. The Luftwaffe had its own rifle divisions?

[Aydar]

not rifle but airfield.

[sak1969]

Quote: BigRiver

Quote: sak1969

... fake photos. Explicit photo montage!

Well, keep a stated topic
What did you find inconsistent with your reality?

Soldiers in the foreground in both ph, the illumination of the boots is striking, it is unnatural. They are from another fot ...
Without going into details, pay attention, the second photo, the shadows of soldiers, a tin can,
(and further behind the inverted bench) there is a box and behind it is like a table, its shadow from a different angle!

[Kostya pedestrian]

The selection of photographs is excellent, although it tells of the most terrible watches experienced by our people. Volgograd residents, you not only live in a beautiful corner of Russia, but, indeed, in a heroic place. I regret that I did not travel with my parents along the Volga Mother. They say indescribable beauty!

PieS: it only remains to add that I, personally, grew up in the Oktyabrsky district of Minsk, on the street of Lieutenant Kizhevatov - the hero of the USSR - the defender of the hero-fortress Brest, and our street ended in cliffs, steep as the banks of the Volga near Stalingrad. Now I live in Melbourne, Australia, and I have flour warehouses in my area - just like in these photos, it should be added that the neighboring area is called Totenham - consonant with the German tank division Totenkompf. And then there is an abandoned power plant in Perth, this is already in Western Australia - well, very similar to the one in the photo in this article. Well, or like in the movie "Conspiracy Theory" with Mel Gibson.

By the way, my family, one might say, was attacked by the Baska bar (const. Stuck - the Styx River - the border between the dead world and us - the knock, shorter than a half ter-geis-?), Even almost knocked out, but in time I pulled the trigger on the trigger, so that all crews safely, not emergency landed, knocked out by the Nazis, but successfully landed under the guidance of our command!

Again, the army and the people of Red Square is full,
And the sea of ​​people is noisy, a wave is following the wave.
Together with her mother - Moscow, at the ancient walls of the Kremlin
Gathered, came to the holiday all of Soviet land.

Chorus:

Go ahead, in spite of adversity!
Friendly pressure, stronger rise!
I am sure the Leader with such a people,
Mighty people with such a Leader!

Recall the years of fire, recall the forty-first year,
In the days of great trials, our people were a hero
And now, as before, he is unanimously following Stalin,
Heroically fulfilling a plan of unprecedented work.

Chorus:

Go ahead, in spite of adversity!
Friendly pressure, stronger rise!
I am sure the Leader with such a people,
Mighty people with such a Leader!

Defeating all obstacles both in work and in battle,
We carry, like a banner, our sonorous song.
And it sounds sweet in a chorus, wide and good,
Our truth, our strength, our brave soul.

Chorus:

Go ahead, in spite of adversity!
Friendly pressure, stronger rise!
I am sure the Leader with such a people,
Mighty people with such a Leader!

Well, our ASIA brand would like to say: give me a crab, a seraphim, or do you have them connected as a stadium (K) AAI on West Laiki?

[Kostya pedestrian]

Our legendary IL-2 fly on a combat mission!

Now, if so, and consumer goods with the Russian auto industry knew how to keep secrets on the head of the enemy, like a military man, you see, the German auto market would not be 32 percent full (full in Belarusian also means "taken prisoner") Japanese women, and our high-quality and not hostile-knocking and drumming auto consumer goods.

PiS: By the way, it has nothing to do with the TV series "Soldiers"; besides, it is unlikely that by a miracle (!) there will be surviving paratroopers hanging out "not orientated" neo-Slavs from 9-floor balconies, so that they, urgently, recall the hymns of the Great Power!

[Swetly]

Whoever comes to us with a sword will receive it in Oral!