Why America can not take Russia by force?

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Why America can not take Russia by force?


I especially asked myself this question especially after reading the article "The rocket blitzkrieg is being postponed for the time being." Many of our citizens are probably afraid that our SNF Americans will, so to speak, disarm with a lightning strike. So, what is next?

For example, today at 07.11.2013, in the morning at 9: 00, the American armed forces will deliver a preemptive strike on our strategic nuclear forces with cruise missiles with non-nuclear warheads, and may, as a result, our mine and mobile missiles be destroyed. But this does not mean that the war is lost and that we must bow our heads before the enemy? It will only get worse. I will explain:

1) Americans have never had an equal or even strong enemy in comparison with them.

2) War with Russia is not a war with Japan, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq. Where the forces of the Americans and their opponents were 30: 1 approximately.

3) America has no experience in waging a continental war and a war of attrition.

4) Nothing rallies our people like an external threat.

The case will have to have not with the old Soviet, not modernized technology, but quite serious weaponry. And I want to ask myself this question: can their people morally endure such a war. We'll have to tighten our belts and for a long time, and "cargo-200 and cargo-300" will return home. Not only the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will fight with the Americans and their henchmen, all the people will stand up to defend the Fatherland. Will develop a powerful partisan movement.

There remains only one proven means for them - revolution and revolt in Russia. So they destroyed the Russian empire in 1917, they destroyed the USSR in 1991, and they also want to destroy the Russian Federation. And therefore I ask all our citizens to feel the thought that all these protests, speeches at the Bolotnaya and Sakharova will not lead to good.

"God forbid seeing Russian revolt, senseless and merciless!" - exclaimed the lips of his hero A.S. Pushkin almost two hundred years ago.
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  1. +90
    7 November 2013 08: 57
    Precisely, exactly.
    Where the forces of the Americans and their opponents were 30: 1 approximately.
    And with other ratios and teeth can be obtained.
    Preventive war against Russia - suicide due to fear of death. Bismarck.

    1. +8
      7 November 2013 09: 11
      It is good that no one thought of writing that because we can eat vodka with big-eyed glasses.
      That would be stupid cheers-patriotism.
      1. +18
        7 November 2013 10: 04
        Quote: mirag2
        that we can eat vodka with big-eyed glasses.

        And this thing needs to be put in order, at the state level to promote a healthy lifestyle, put pressure on tobacco and alcohol in the country and fight extremely hard against drug trafficking, manufacture and distribution, this is also a weapon of mass destruction that the cat has been using against us for a long time and successfully using preventive methods.
        1. +9
          7 November 2013 13: 57
          And this business needs to be put in order, at the state level to promote a healthy lifestyle, put pressure on tobacco and alcohol in the country and fight extremely hard against drug trafficking
          Ha, before the start of the "big" construction in Sochi, there were several free stadiums where everyone could attend, and there were quite a few of them, now they have been demolished, and in their place are either paid stadiums, or generally shopping centers. I remember how VVP together with the LADIES assured our people that during the period of their rule in Russia 400 stadiums will be built, let them show at least 200 operating ones.
          1. Evgeniy.
            0
            10 November 2013 14: 23
            I know at least 10 and everything from 5 minutes to hour accessibility from my house
        2. Evgeniy.
          0
          10 November 2013 14: 21
          the consumption of alcohol, vtch vodka beer, etc. is reduced every year
      2. +29
        7 November 2013 10: 53
        Quote: mirag2
        that we can eat vodka with big glasses


        In the English encyclopedia about vodka it is written that 1 liter is a lethal dose, below the link and small handwriting (except for Russian)
        1. +4
          7 November 2013 11: 35
          lying, I suppose. Give a link
        2. +3
          7 November 2013 13: 48
          Quote: APES
          link below and in small handwriting (except for Russian)

          "On the thief and the hat is on fire"
          http://www.russlav.ru/alkogolizm/degradaciya-lichnosti.html
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      4. +16
        7 November 2013 13: 12
        hmm ... about vodka, you are right, and after all Russians were never drunks, they loved to drink, but to cut wires under voltage of thousands of volts with metal hacks to hand over to metal and get drunk on vodka, this wasn’t
        1. +7
          7 November 2013 13: 44
          Here you are mistaken, in my practice it was when a high-voltage cable was dug up and pulled by a tractor, disconnecting a separate radio engineering company, and the cables on working equipment were chopped and dragged with an ax, native 1998 ...
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          2. +1
            8 November 2013 23: 42
            Quote: eagle11
            Here you are mistaken, in my practice it was when a high-voltage cable was dug up and pulled by a tractor, disconnecting a separate radio engineering company, and the cables on working equipment were chopped and dragged with an ax, native 1998 ...

            Was this by chance not near Astrakhan, in the Ashuluk region?
            I recall a similar case.
        2. -2
          8 November 2013 10: 15
          Quote: ybrcfy27
          because Russians were never drunks

          http://alkogolunet.ru/blog/istorija_alkogolja_v_rossii/2012-02-09-148
      5. nickname 1 and 2
        +2
        8 November 2013 12: 50
        Why America can not take Russia by force?


        But CAN IT TAKE A STRONG MOBBLE - a sparrow?

        (answer) = women of the wrong caliber!
    2. +15
      7 November 2013 09: 14
      Yes, We are too tough for Americans, well, if only in the year 91 they do not merge us.
      1. smersh70
        +11
        7 November 2013 09: 51
        Quote: user
        unless in the year 91 we are merged.

        unih then maybe there was such a thought ... but now they see what processes are happening in Russia .. and they are getting cold ... they are already afraid of Putin’s departure and the nationalists coming to power .. and as a result, uncontrollable processes in the world ..so not everything is so bad ........
      2. +30
        7 November 2013 10: 22
        Quote: user
        We are too tough for Americans

        They won't take it by force, but by internal decomposition, especially young people, they will. So it's high time to define the ideology and take decisive action. Otherwise, there will be no reserves left for waging a "continental war" - they will surrender themselves!
        1. +18
          7 November 2013 10: 27
          Quote: Egoza
          They won't take it by force, but by internal decomposition, especially young people, they will. So it's high time to define the ideology and take decisive action. Otherwise, there will be no reserves left for waging a "continental war" - they will surrender themselves!

          What about the state propaganda machine?

          Show the youth the advantage of "to be Russian"and she will wipe her feet on the West ...
          1. +8
            7 November 2013 11: 20
            Quote: Corsair
            What about the state propaganda machine?


            for serving narrow family corporate interests

            Quote: Corsair
            Show the youth the edge


            Now they show that being a star of HOUSE_2 is more honorable than a mother

            Quote: Corsair
            and she will wipe her feet


            I personally "don't want to put my feet on my chest"
            1. +16
              7 November 2013 12: 13
              Quote: APES
              I personally "don't want to put my feet on my chest"

              If the situation turns out, then put it. And not just on the chest. Pacifists, Christmas trees, sticks ....
              1. +3
                7 November 2013 12: 36
                Quote: saha471
                If the situation arises


                Tsoi’s work is probably not familiar to you

                Quote: saha471
                Pacifists, stick-trees


                I'm not a pacifist
            2. sasska
              +1
              12 November 2013 08: 38
              "Vorobyaninov never held out his hands! - Oh, you didn't hold out your hands? - Didn't. - So stretch your legs, old ... (censored)! Kisa, Ostap."

              just a quote.
          2. Evgeniy.
            0
            10 November 2013 14: 25
            What about the state propaganda machine?
            at 91 ended
        2. +10
          7 November 2013 11: 18
          Egoza
          They won’t take it by force, but by internal decomposition, especially by the youth, it’s completely.

          As for youth, I do not agree with you. Now a new generation of young people has come (These are already young people of not zero years) The fate of Russia is not alien to them.
          And it is unlikely that they will now be able to "lure" them with American gingerbread. Judging by the friends of my sons, it is a great pride for them to be considered Russian. And the last Russian march in Russia causes pride for them (especially in Moscow):
          But the strongest in the Russian march is the mass participation of youth. Young people make up the vast majority of march participants, neither the left nor the liberals have this. This is the radical difference between Lublino and Bolotnaya. The Russian movement, gaining strength today, with all its disunity, is a youth movement. (2013-11-06 Vitaliy Sednev.
          Russian march without Navalny)
          1. +7
            7 November 2013 11: 25
            Quote: vlad.svargin
            it is unlikely that they will now be "lured" with American gingerbread


            Lured by other gingerbread cookies, and their noble impulse is usually used by unscrupulous people - you have to be very careful

            Quote: vlad.svargin
            causes pride for them

            And I felt sad when I watched the video from 04.07.2013 - about beating in a subway car, on Udelnaya in St. Petersburg
            1. Abracadabra
              +2
              7 November 2013 13: 07
              American gingerbread ... In general, they are already staring at unhappy America .. Some schizophrenic topics about nothing .. One might think now something like the "Cuban missile crisis", two powers are on the brink of war and there is a struggle for ideology all over the world. Meanwhile, the policy of dividing society, aimed at distracting from real problems and not interfering with stealing, is gaining momentum .. Manezhka, Biryulyovo, this is not the first episode similar to what happened in the metro .. The Internet is full of anger and hatred, the desire to fight with the "s" and "black asses", the "black asses", in turn, also seem to answer .. But the majority of the people are people sane and neither with fascist zigs, nor with a portrait of Stalin will go build a "bright future" .. But still, this majority does not realize the importance and meaning of such a concept as "civic duty", the importance of being able to control power .. Until this majority realizes, until there is a separation of powers in Russia, as is practiced in civilization countries with a high standard of living, until then there will be neither development nor a high standard of living
              1. +5
                7 November 2013 14: 02
                Quote: Abra Kadabra
                nor will they go to build a "bright future" with a portrait of Stalin.

                If such a Stalin appeared, I would go. But while there is no prophet in his Fatherland ...
                Quote: Abra Kadabra
                ... But still, this majority does not realize the importance and significance of such a concept as "civic duty", the importance of being able to control power .. Until this majority realizes, until there is a separation of powers in Russia, as is practiced in civilized countries with a high standard of living

                What are you talking about? The civic duty, as you see it, is an invention of the liberals, you really cannot influence the government. Read the political technologies. All of these your European values ​​rest on your word of honor and on our cheap resources.
              2. +11
                7 November 2013 15: 33
                Quote: Abra Kadabra
                . Until this majority understands, until Russia there will be a separation of powers, as is practiced in civilized countries with a high standard of living, until neither development nor a high standard of living will be


                A high standard of living does not depend on the separation of powers. The SA also has a high standard of living, and recently the economies of monarchies have been recognized as the most stable. And in the so-called "civilized" countries, the top of all TNCs and TNBs (transnational banks) are concentrated, which pay social rent to civilized residents so that they do not rage and give them the opportunity to enslave countries that are not included in the cohort of the chosen ones with debts on the basis of loan interest, dictate their conditions to them and pump out of them, profits are many times greater than they invest in the development of these countries, thereby realizing predatory neocolonial policy.The progressive integration of the market leads to the subordination of all social and human activity to its laws. All peoples of the world become hostages of commodity production, and are exploited by the financial oligarchy. Russia is not included in the cohort of the elected rather the opposite, and the separation of powers or the so-called democracy enables the global oligarchy, which is also heterogeneous on a compromise and parity basis, that is civilized methods pump out our resources for the sake of their interests and not the interests of the state of Russia. We did not stand in line for civilization in conditions of liberal free capitalism and there will be no standard of living as civilized people when the separation of powers was wrong, everyone was convinced of this in the mid 90's. most of them just began to realize this, no matter how they tried to convince him of the opposite of another liberal ABRA-CADADABRA
              3. yur
                yur
                +6
                7 November 2013 21: 18
                "how it is practiced in civilized countries." You know Abra-Kadabra, I'm already sick of the phrase "civilized countries". These are the countries where shopping centers open in churches, those where same-sex marriages are allowed, those where priests can marry a man with a man, those where a child can be taken from the family because the neighbors said that the child does not have an ultra-modern computer ?! So, God forbid me from such a "civilization".
        3. +2
          7 November 2013 13: 15
          They won’t take us by force, but the paid Wahhabism can really be well suited .. We need to do something!
          1. +1
            7 November 2013 14: 04
            more often "Russian marches"
            1. Yarosvet
              0
              7 November 2013 15: 32
              Quote: chief.matros
              more often "Russian marches"
        4. +3
          7 November 2013 13: 32
          Quote: Egoza
          So it’s high time to determine the ideology and take decisive measures.

          Now it’s just the time to appeal to patriotism, a sense of duty to the motherland, responsibility for the fate of future generations, the loot and property of the former empire of the USSR that have already been divided, now we need to think about how to protect all this with the hands and lives of those who have been robbed. bully
          1. Yarosvet
            -10
            7 November 2013 15: 33
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            Now it’s just the time to appeal to patriotism, a sense of duty to the motherland, responsibility for the fate of future generations, the loot and property of the former empire of the USSR that have already been divided, now we need to think about how to protect all this with the hands and lives of those who have been robbed.
            1. Evgeniy.
              0
              10 November 2013 14: 27
              dem is not relevant already
            2. 0
              13 November 2013 20: 55
              ? did not understand why this picture? What year statistics?
        5. +10
          7 November 2013 15: 00
          Quote: Egoza
          They won't take it by force, but by internal decomposition, especially young people, they will. So it's high time to define the ideology and take decisive action. Otherwise, there will be no reserves left for waging a "continental war" - they will surrender themselves!


          I’ve already written somewhere - not so long ago standing not on the porch of the Togo center I heard a phrase from a kid 6-7 years old -
          -Dad, look, the worst word ..
          I looked around for a three-letter word, I didn’t find it, dad did too, then he specified
          -What word, son?
          The boy’s answer is MacDonalds ....
          So that is still not lost.
        6. +4
          7 November 2013 16: 36
          Quote: Egoza
          By force - they won’t take it, but by internal decomposition, especially youth - it’s

          I think Putin is also not done with a finger, he knows everything perfectly, knows what to do in a similar situation ...... the only thing that may not be enough is time, as in 41 .....
          1. SV
            SV
            0
            7 November 2013 19: 41
            I agree to all 100. Man, most of his life he served in foreign intelligence ...
            I do not think that naive boys and girls are working in this area
        7. whitewolf
          +3
          9 November 2013 22: 50
          about youth - this is an old boring song, our youth is normal, smart and the most patriotic in the world, they will tear any enemy into foot worms !!!
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        1. Yarosvet
          -4
          7 November 2013 22: 51
          Quote: Heccrbq .2
          the day before yesterday, by many dearly beloved on this site, the king of all Russia introduced fines for the sale of anonymous SIM cards to cellular
        2. +2
          8 November 2013 02: 42
          Quote: Heccrbq .2
          The question of backfill, the day before yesterday, by many the dearly beloved tsar of all Russia on this website, introduced fines for the sale of impersonal SIM cards to cell phones, why would this be?

          What's the problem?
    3. +12
      7 November 2013 11: 19
      They can’t cope with all of Kodla in Afghanistan, because a guerrilla war can be said there, then pindssy can only be targeted, and missiles, from far away, from stealth, and in Russia you can run into not only guerrilla but also hand-to-hand combat.
      1. +1
        7 November 2013 19: 29
        Quote: Migari
        They can’t cope with all the code in Afghanistan, t

        And they should cope with someone there, then sow and cherish the poppy themselves and then evaporate the gerych, they’ve already set everything up there, now everything will happen there automatically and heroin will flow in the river where it is needed and the army will no longer need to be kept there.
    4. Luger
      -10
      7 November 2013 12: 23
      I’m even afraid to imagine if this starts. Of course, the armed forces will still be combat-ready ... for some time, but what our people will be annealed can only be imagined in a nightmare, and this is not taken from the air, but from real life and the state to which our society has reached.
      1. Looting, robbery, violence, murder will begin (the authorities will not when they engage in public order, you know the war);
      2. Practically no desire to defend the Motherland (with the existing psychology: "my house is on the edge");
      3. In case of difficulties during military service due to military operations and, as a result, the occurrence of irreplaceable military losses, mass desertion of ordinary soldiers, sergeants (this is not for you to play Call of Duty with preservation);
      4. Massive cooperation of the population in the occupied territories with aggressors;
      5. Betrayal and the transition to the side of the enemy (only the opposition is worth what);

      It’s good if it’s not so, and even better if there’s no conflict at all, but something seems to me that I’m right ...
      1. pahom54
        +7
        7 November 2013 14: 25
        Luger answer
        After reading your comment, from hopelessness you can shoot yourself and hang yourself ...
        The thing is that all 5 points mentioned by you were involved in the Great Patriotic War. There were looters, and policemen, and cooperation with the Nazis, and desertion ...
        BUT!!! How did that end? Our VICTORY!
        1. Luger
          -5
          7 November 2013 14: 30
          It’s all so, but in the first months of the war almost before the New Year there was what I wrote, but then the people were different, not sophisticated, not spoiled, down to earth, less selfish. Now in the era of frantic consumption, and the lack of the ability to live in not comfortable conditions, people are no longer the same.
          And given that you have a feeling of hopelessness, then, in principle, you understand that I am right, because if you were different, you would not have this feeling.
          1. Evgeniy.
            0
            10 November 2013 14: 32
            I will not do this, and many who will not, I am a representative of spoiled youth 0x.

            Those who respect themselves will not, and the rest are a minority
          2. 0
            11 November 2013 09: 06
            In general, wartime laws apply in wartime and will be put to the wall without hesitation for the first points. And immediately consciousness wakes up, not everyone, of course. But most certainly. Yes, and for normal people do not need such measures
      2. SV
        SV
        0
        7 November 2013 19: 49
        Yes, do you have a good opinion about our people or have seen enough of American blockbusters where Americans rally near their flag, and in Russia exactly what is written (Luger) above ...
      3. whitewolf
        0
        9 November 2013 22: 57
        everyone thinks to the extent of his depravity.
      4. -1
        10 November 2013 00: 37
        you are not a luger you are sorry luzer !!!!
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      1. +1
        7 November 2013 13: 15
        CLASS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      2. +2
        7 November 2013 14: 04
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        at this point there is still a possible conflict not considered

        And I have not seen this statue in such a pose. good
      3. +1
        7 November 2013 19: 37
        It was already on the site and it’s not very nice to look at it, yet it’s not a porn site, you would like to choose more decent pictures, because children can also see what adult uncles do here.
    6. +4
      7 November 2013 13: 51
      Quote: a52333
      Preventive war against Russia - suicide due to fear of death. Bismarck.


      The whole world and Russia in the first place will be able to live peacefully only when the last impudent Saxon abomination disappears from the face of the earth.
    7. +14
      7 November 2013 14: 53
      Why can't America take Russia by force?
      And who could or could? It is impossible to defeat Russia in an open war.
      King of Prussia Frederick the Great said: “every enemy army that dares to penetrate to Smolensk and beyond will certainly find a grave in the Russian steppes.”
      Von Clausewitz believed that Russia will always remain invincible, and any army, even the most perfect, will dissolve, like dust, in its fateful and boundless expanses.
      The famous German tank builder Ferdinand Porsche told Paulus: "From history, we know that Russia is always not ready for war, but in some strange way it turns out to be the winner."
      The famous German philosopher of the twentieth century, Martin Heidegger, who shared the ideas of National Socialism, spoke about Russia in 1943: “We (Germans) will never defeat the Russians until we realize their metaphysical secret. And the secret is that they are the land of the future. Russians are the secret land of the future, not understood by themselves, by anyone else ... The history of the land of the future is contained in the essence of Russianness that has not yet been liberated for itself. ”
      To defeat us, you need to be deprived of faith.
      We are invincible as long as we have faith that we are invincible!
    8. +4
      7 November 2013 19: 35
      According to the Americans themselves, when coffins begin to go in a war with someone, they try to transfer this war to another direction, which implies bribing people from the government of the opposing side, carpet bombing, and even if that side has poor air defense. And the warriors are not so hot. I have a guy who served in the peacekeeping forces and was in Yugoslavia, and he told how they serve. Not a service, but a paradise. The Americans, they are also a coddled nation, they are used to taking showers five times a day, eating tightly and correctly, moving around everywhere by car, don’t want to walk on foot, and much more. And now we will present them somewhere near Krasnoyarsk in the winter, everything, to them a khan. As my friend, who worked on the construction of pipelines in Siberia for a long time, said that the Americans came to them to take over the experience of construction in permafrost, and they see our bulldozer on the basis of C-100, frost under 50, and the bulldozer rides with open doors, so they the jaws fell to the ground, and squealed that they supposedly had to apply punishment for criminals - instead of the death penalty, send a Russian bulldozer to work in Siberia! Wimps they are Americans!
    9. bif
      +4
      7 November 2013 21: 54
      Quote: a52333
      Americans have never had an equal or even strong enemy compared to them.

      I would paraphrase ... "Americans never HAVE equal or stronger .."
      After NATO’s aggression on Serbia 1999, one American general visited the military museum in Belgrade.

      General went to one of the museum’s coats, a young retired Serbian officer, and asked a question:
      `` Well, was it difficult to fight with the greatest and most powerful force of the world? ''

      The officer replied:
      “I don’t know, we have never fought against the Russians.”
    10. Dovmont
      +2
      10 November 2013 19: 44
      American military doctrine is based on three Bs: Destruction of an Unarmed enemy with impunity at a Safe Distance!
  2. +21
    7 November 2013 08: 57
    The article is more like a comment. request
    1. +2
      7 November 2013 08: 59
      I reread once again and can not digest ...
      1. smersh70
        +4
        7 November 2013 09: 52
        Quote: Gleb
        I can’t digest ...

        .... I probably drank a lot in the evening drinks
        1. +10
          7 November 2013 11: 30
          so let's continue! drinks
        2. +9
          7 November 2013 12: 31
          I really used two days. Five in one at the cemetery, I visited my sixth friends. But I never lose my head. It's not about alcohol
      2. +3
        7 November 2013 14: 17
        without half a liter you can’t see what you’re talking about
  3. makarov
    +30
    7 November 2013 09: 01
    I want to add:
    America has never fought on its own territory with an equivalent adversary. And he has no such experience. Is that Hollywood.
    1. +14
      7 November 2013 09: 14
      What are you! When 3000 people died in Harbor, it was such a tragedy for them!
      I mean, they did not face serious losses.
      Vietnam had enough for them to immediately have the movement of hippo-pacifists.
      So that any war fraught with a large number of victims on their part is a taboo for them.
      1. Vovka levka
        +1
        7 November 2013 11: 05
        Quote: mirag2
        What are you! When 3000 people died in Harbor, it was such a tragedy for them!
        I mean, they did not face serious losses.
        Vietnam had enough for them to immediately have the movement of hippo-pacifists.
        So that any war fraught with a large number of victims on their part is a taboo for them.

        They live normally, so why do they need extra problems?
      2. +8
        7 November 2013 11: 54
        Quote: mirag2
        Vietnam had enough for them to immediately have the movement of hippo-pacifists.

        There were not only hippies, they would have dealt with hippies, almost the entire middle class and, in part, the army, opposed the war hi
    2. +5
      7 November 2013 09: 28
      Quote: makarov
      I want to add:
      America has never fought on its own territory with an equivalent adversary. And he has no such experience. Is that Hollywood.

      On their territory they fought twice with an equal enemy, but for a long time. This is the struggle for independence from England and the civil war of the north and south.
      1. +12
        7 November 2013 11: 23
        Semurg
        On their territory they fought twice with an equal enemy, but for a long time. This is the struggle for independence from England and the civil war of the north and south.

        And then with the help of Russian ships blocking the south of America from the delivery of aid from the UK.
        1. +4
          7 November 2013 22: 08
          let them not fight openly. It’s disadvantageous for them. An open war between the USA and Russia means the end of the world. Who needs such a war. But there will be tricks
  4. +34
    7 November 2013 09: 03
    I’ll go dig a machine gun just in case.
    The author did not take into account the fact that when modeling this described situation, not all ICBMs will be destroyed, because ours, too, do not bast their cabbage soup and the United States is waiting for a retaliatory strike. But in the near future, such a scenario is impossible. But on land (here I agree with the author) the United States will not be able to wage war with Russia. Because they will take care of their ass, and we will defend our homeland, and this is our holy duty. Therefore, the United States and seeks to ruin Russia from the inside, applying all the ways.
    1. andruha70
      +7
      7 November 2013 12: 20
      I’ll go dig a machine gun just in case.
      laughing laughing laughing come on, don’t be modest ... and the t-34 from the barn covered with hay, too - roll out. wassat
      1. +11
        7 November 2013 12: 56
        That's what, my friend, no - that is not. feel But deflate the anti-tank gun from the garage. soldier
      2. +8
        7 November 2013 15: 40
        Quote: andruha70
        I’ll go dig a machine gun just in case.

        -Vanka, why are you, you are watering the flowerbed with engine oil, the flowers will fade. - Fuck on them, if only the machine gun did not rust. laughing
    2. +4
      7 November 2013 12: 24
      I’ll go dig a machine gun just in case.
      The author did not take into account the fact that when modeling this described situation, not all ICBMs will be destroyed, because ours, too, do not bast their cabbage soup and the United States is waiting for a retaliatory strike. But in the near future, such a scenario is impossible. But on land (here I agree with the author) the United States will not be able to wage war with Russia. Because they will take care of their ass, and we will defend our homeland, and this is our holy duty. Therefore, the United States and seeks to ruin Russia from the inside, applying all the ways.


      I modeled in my own way that if, hypothetically, they destroyed all ICBMs, then what next? They won’t use nuclear weapons, why spoil such a tidbit, and then current operations on the ground, and here they will be too tough.
    3. +4
      7 November 2013 14: 21
      that's for sure, because we have a holy soul and homeland, and they have all the holiness in the ass
  5. +26
    7 November 2013 09: 06
    Suppose today 07.11.2013, in 9: 00 in the morning, the American armed forces will deliver a preventive strike on our strategic nuclear forces


    Carried, already 9.06
    1. +6
      7 November 2013 09: 34
      Quote: rugor
      Carried, already 9.06

      09: 34 - it seems nothing will happen! drinks

      Let the article be like a comment, as one of the members of the forum expressed it, but T 100, just expressed his opinion on this subject =))

      And I got his mini-article - LIKED))

      Here you can add a lot of your own! So to say, supplement this article with facts and judgments!
  6. +7
    7 November 2013 09: 07
    I will say this: If even all ground-based strategic nuclear forces are destroyed (which is unrealistic), then there are submarines for which only one order will remain ..... We must remember that the strategic nuclear forces are not the only things we have! A lot of intimidating secrecy, more than gifts under the tree. So not everything is as simple as they are in the USA. And still what, we must remember that not only we live in Russia, but also other creatures whom we sheltered! Check out some interesting material: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPR0AV4kDSc
    1. 0
      7 November 2013 11: 19
      An interesting reference. A little funny information, but more puzzled than surprised.
    2. +1
      7 November 2013 12: 39
      giggle laughing mean absolutely secret ?! laughing
  7. Valery Neonov
    +18
    7 November 2013 09: 09
    All that remains for them is only one proven means - the revolution and rebellion in Russia.- why do the Novodvodsky, bulk and others like them ...
    This is from a little:... For example, I do not care at all how many missiles democratic America will launch on undemocratic Iraq. For me, the more the better. Just as I am completely not terrified of the trouble that happened with Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But look, what kind of candy came from Japan. Just snickers. Seven in Tokyo, a liberal parliament is available. The game was worth the candle. recourse She is the toad ...
    1. volkodav
      +8
      7 November 2013 12: 16
      is she not dead yet?
    2. +13
      7 November 2013 12: 22
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      She is the toad ...

      Oh! Baba Leroux needs to be shown and quoted more often. To strengthen the gag reflex against liberals fool . So that with the word LIBERAL, acne in the body goes and fists itch! angry
    3. +9
      7 November 2013 13: 18
      The ugly face of Russian liberalism.
    4. +5
      7 November 2013 14: 30
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      She is the toad ...

      Br ...! Ugh ... In her mouth .., hornet's nest!
    5. +3
      7 November 2013 22: 10
      wassat here she is! US secret weapon. One photograph can destroy an entire military district. Does she have a husband? I wouldn’t drink so much !! wassat
    6. +2
      7 November 2013 23: 11
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      She is the toad ..

      The suggestion is to find a prince for her to kiss her, maybe a miracle will happen and she will turn into a beautiful one ... although it is unlikely, the last one will become a troll.
      1. +1
        8 November 2013 00: 26
        Quote: Victor-M
        to find a prince for her to kiss her, maybe a miracle will happen and she will turn into a beautiful ...,

        Here you can’t get off with a kiss to correct this grimace of nature arranged for her sins of her ancestors, you need to love her a hundred times and then she will stop spitting in her own reflection in the mirror and become kind and gentle, like all Russian women, with the exception of a few similar characters from her own liberal circles.
      2. German
        +1
        11 November 2013 05: 09
        the man is guilty of something that you want to push Novodvorskaya to him? wassat
    7. catapractic
      0
      9 November 2013 11: 07
      you can’t imagine a toad laughing
  8. +5
    7 November 2013 09: 12
    Why can't America take Russia by force? Because their gut is thin to even try. Despite all its current problems and in spite of its enemies - Russia was great, so it remains and I am sure that it will be for a very long time. The main thing is to prevent internal destabilization, and she will cope with external enemies, as she has proved more than once.
    1. Angolaforever
      -3
      7 November 2013 11: 36
      Because he cannot risk the millions of lives of his citizens. If by some miracle, as the author writes, they would be able to destroy all ICBMs and SSBNs at once, then Russia’s Khan, it’s like cutting off the hands of a boxer.
      1. +2
        7 November 2013 12: 28
        Cutting off your arms in boxing is, to put it mildly, unsportsmanlike, and if so, then on the other side you can also "pile up" with your legs and head and not weakly.
        1. Angolaforever
          +1
          7 November 2013 15: 16
          You can’t get on without hands
  9. Beibit
    +11
    7 November 2013 09: 13
    Before attacking Russia, the Americans must first divide the country, and not hope for separation during the attack like Hitler. They do not want to repeat the story, because they know that just taking Russia will not work. Russia will fight for the homeland and for the preservation of the nation. But America does not have a nation and a homeland; they simply have citizenship. Almost all visitors there are in search of a better life. And if the war starts, they will just as well go to another country where the best conditions are. So on field 1 Russian will cost 10 Americans.
    1. -1
      7 November 2013 09: 22
      Quote: Beibit
      Before attacking Russia, the Americans must first divide the country, and not hope for separation during the attack like Hitler. They do not want to repeat the story, because they know that just taking Russia will not work. Russia will fight for the homeland and for the preservation of the nation. But America does not have a nation and a homeland; they simply have citizenship. Almost all visitors there are in search of a better life. And if the war starts, they will just as well go to another country where the best conditions are. So on field 1 Russian will cost 10 Americans.

      I don’t know friends who have lived or studied in the USA for a long time and say that Americans have no less patriotism than ours, if not more. At the expense of 1 it costs 10 the same is thought to be greatly exaggerated.
      1. +16
        7 November 2013 10: 32
        Quote: Semurg
        they say that Americans have no less patriotism than ours, if not more.

        Are you talking about this "patriotism" -During the riots in Los Angeles in the 1992 year, robberies in the south and in the center occurred on a massive scale. Dozens of stores were smashed, people carried away televisions, stereo systems, and everything that turned up handy. The chaos that emerged as a result of angry protests and fires gave people the opportunity to take advantage of the situation, and they engaged in robbery. There were no earthquakes or other disasters - ordinary civil unrest, when society got out of control.

        When I was in New Orleans just four days after Hurricane Katrina, I was driving along Canal Street in the immediate vicinity of French Quarter. Shop after shop were smashed by robbers: at Tiffany and other expensive stores, the windows were broken and everything inside was stolen. Everywhere on the street lay commercial furniture, thrown out during predatory searches from office buildings and shops. Several completely new Corvettes stood abandoned on paths and alleys, apparently in cars that were stolen from dealers, gasoline simply ran out.

        Immediately after the storm, the police were swallowed by the chaos created by the flood, evacuation procedures, etc. At night, New Orleans became a war zone where street gangs fought among themselves and weakened police forces. The National Guard was called up to assist the police in restoring order. A curfew was imposed; everyone who roamed the streets without permission was immediately arrested.
        fully read here.And the flood in Russia in the Far East, will you find anything like that. That's all their Hollywood "patriotism" which ends where there is a freebie.
        1. +3
          7 November 2013 11: 44
          Looting and patriotism are not the dignity or disadvantage of a particular nation. I wrote about this above that all peoples have a sense of patriotism, but there will also be looters (there are no good or bad peoples, but these peoples have heroes and scoundrels), and the percentage of those and other among all peoples is approximately equal.
      2. andruha70
        +3
        7 November 2013 12: 16
        I don’t know friends who have lived or studied in the USA for a long time and say that Americans have no less patriotism than ours, if not more. At the expense of 1 it costs 10 the same is thought to be greatly exaggerated.
        you are wrong, dear. they have - patriotism - internal, and even then - not at all, and years ... eleven years ago. and Russian-patriotism-GLOBAL !!! wink
      3. +4
        7 November 2013 12: 30
        Patriotism is one thing, a person can love his homeland, but he can’t stand up for his defense. The thing is different in our strength of mind, but this they obviously do not have much))))
    2. +6
      7 November 2013 09: 27
      Quote: Beibit
      Before attacking Russia, Americans must first divide the country

      Well, they will divide and that as soon as they attack, such an association will come that it will not seem enough.
      1. +7
        7 November 2013 10: 53
        Well, yes, as we unite, then some other French region and Alaskan territory will appear in the Russian Federation, well, maybe Mexican autonomy. Well, for sure there will be some sort of Indian district with its capital in Texas.
  10. Alikovo
    +4
    7 November 2013 09: 14
    Nothing rallies our people like a threat to an external threat.
    so it was during the Tatar-Mongol yoke, the troubled times of 1598-1613, the Patriotic War of 1812, the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945.
    1. Valery Neonov
      +10
      7 November 2013 10: 19
      + Cohesion is necessary, but war wouldn’t be necessary ... hi
      1. +1
        7 November 2013 15: 31
        I'm afraid that we don’t understand well ...
    2. Angolaforever
      +1
      7 November 2013 11: 39
      At the expense of the Tatar-Mongol yoke it is not necessary, everything was just bad there with unity and, as a result, an epic feil.
  11. +2
    7 November 2013 09: 16
    "Let's say that today, 07.11.2013/9/00, at 10:XNUMX am, the American armed forces will inflict a preemptive strike against our strategic nuclear forces with cruise missiles with non-nuclear warheads, and let, as a result, our silo and mobile missiles will be destroyed." ... why is it so expensive. .. you have to be more zealous ... pay a gastric migrant XNUMX bucks, well, promise to pay ... you feel the difference ... and now in Russia there are no more bridges, power lines, railways, airports and roads in general ... that's all disassembled, broken, smashed and blocked.
    1. +5
      7 November 2013 09: 49
      Hmm .. "and now in Russia there are no longer bridges, power lines, railways, airports and roads in general" - well, actually, this is a common state for the country, many will not even notice anything unusual)) Especially with regard to roads ...
      I think you exaggerate the danger from migrants. This is not American migrants)
    2. +1
      7 November 2013 14: 36
      in such a situation, migrant gastric women are unlikely to remain in Russia, by the way, our FSB and GRU should pay attention to the fact that in the Krasnodar Territory in all large and strategically important points, near intersections and central roads, Meskhetian Turks are standing, than not strategic preparation for God forbid future actions?
  12. +5
    7 November 2013 09: 16
    The author +++++, and some are minus, I think they are preparing bread and salt to our enemies ...
    1. +2
      7 November 2013 19: 13
      dear, yes I set it-and not because I cook, bread and salt, but because this article is very similar to hat-making, in order to be ready for such a war, one must prepare. have personnel organizing resistance groups. You have seen a lot of this training, not counting the dispersal of the army. So I think everything is not as simple as the author writes.
  13. +5
    7 November 2013 09: 17
    let them try. only one question arises - where are we going to bury them all?
    1. +4
      7 November 2013 12: 34
      Great mother Russia - Germans buried in the fields and swamps, and Americans next to them in the same place)))
      1. +3
        7 November 2013 12: 39
        Quote: T-100
        Great mother Russia - Germans buried in the fields and swamps, and Americans next to them in the same place)))
        We don't need SUCH humus, let the prairies "fertilize" ourselves ...
  14. HAM
    +2
    7 November 2013 09: 22
    The Americans have a lesson in tactics, although they don't want to offend the "real boys" by comparison ..
  15. +12
    7 November 2013 09: 23
    The Russian people perceive the attack on Russia as a war of total annihilation. Accordingly, the personal goes into the general (general grief and joy). I have a friend from Canada (an emigrant in the third generation), and he says that when he comes to the big white fox, he wants to stay in Russia (now he works in Nizhny) due to the fact that in case of big problems we are united and the Americans are, on the contrary, only for our beloved.
  16. +8
    7 November 2013 09: 29
    You won’t throw words out of a song: Russians, Russians, restless hearts, why do we need trouble to become stronger?
  17. 3935333
    +5
    7 November 2013 09: 32
    The Americans are well aware that the power of the Russian Federation will not be able to get on their knees for a long time .... But these dogs are constantly trying to destabilize the situation at some borders with the whole pack (NATO) and since 1994 we have not been able to cure the Caucasus of their actions! West ala its minions, whether they be Turks, Saudis or Europeans, from time immemorial have been waging a continuous war with our state, no matter how it is called ... And after all, what’s interesting - getting real people, they are every year, century ... all assertive and assertive ... And the war is in all areas, both power and cultural-social fronts.
    1. ReifA
      +3
      7 November 2013 10: 55
      To cure the disease, you need to use the appropriate medicine. With this, the authorities have a lack of desire rather than opportunity.
  18. +5
    7 November 2013 09: 33
    I don’t know how it will coalesce to defend the homeland, I’ll personally gnaw them with my teeth, but the Americans will not fight us purely for financial reasons. On land, all their naval junk is useless. The transfer of our troops will cost such money that for 60 years the US plans for aggression have remained. They will not be able to completely knock out our Strategic Missile Forces even in the long term, 40% will remain, they themselves recognize, and this is enough for everyone.
    1. +11
      7 November 2013 10: 08
      Quote: shinobi
      40% will remain, they themselves recognize, but that’s enough for everyone.

      Enough of a single charge in New York, so that not only America but the whole world goes out.
      Bucks will die right away.
      1. +3
        7 November 2013 11: 02
        Quote: 528Obrp
        Bucks will die right away.

        And with him all sorts of Rothschilds and the Rockefellers will die. This is both a plus and minus on the battery. One cannot without the other. The world will unfold 180 degrees.
    2. +4
      7 November 2013 11: 06
      Quote: shinobi
      even in the long term, 40% will remain, they themselves will recognize, but this is enough for everyone.

      More than sure, and 5% of nuclear weapons surviving from our entire arsenal will be more than enough for the entire planet to shine from radiation like a New Year's garland. It is not necessary to plow all continents like a garden bed in a garden. Enough point strikes on key, vital objects, so that the world does not recover in the next few decades.
  19. +5
    7 November 2013 09: 35
    rugor Today, 09: 06
    Suppose today 07.11.2013, in 9: 00 in the morning, the American armed forces will deliver a preventive strike on our strategic nuclear forces
    Carried, already 9.06

    Me too.
    1. HAM
      +4
      7 November 2013 11: 08
      Congratulations on your relief.
  20. +4
    7 November 2013 09: 38
    And the Americans themselves do not need to fight, or rather, for starters, you can limit yourself to air support, to support the advancing troops of NATO countries, you can drive Germans, Baltic states, Italians, Frenchmen, any petty evil shrouders into the embrasure, leave yourself a pure war in the air and destruction of our fleet, which, with all due respect, will not stand against the Americans. It is more likely that some missile carrier missed by them will come up directly from the shores of the United States and make the Americans have nowhere to return. I don’t have any illusions about the current race army but there is nothing better than rallying people than an external aggressor, Russia will somehow become a black hole for NATO and the USA, which will suck out all the juices, and the result will be zero.
    1. Rif
      +4
      7 November 2013 14: 39
      especially the Baltic armada, with both tanks and an inflatable Navy, let Russia tremble.
    2. +2
      7 November 2013 14: 43
      I don’t know how the others, but I think the current Germans (and the Italians along with them, I won’t tell you about the rest) study history well and they are unlikely to want to enter the Russian land again
    3. 0
      8 November 2013 03: 15
      Quote: Standard Oil
      As for the current race army, I have no special illusions

      I would like to know what you generally know about the Russian army?
  21. roller2
    +9
    7 November 2013 09: 38
    The author begins to predict the outcome of the war of the two nuclear states, while he does not even try to comprehend, why should the US strike at Russia ???
    It’s much easier (and cheaper) to pay 5, 6 .... columns quarreling among themselves Russians, Belarusians, Kazakhs ..... plunging the country into chaos, and then just simply cut the babosy.
    And what will the war give ???
    Huge expenditures of both resources and people.
    It is not clear what the result will be.
    They already have experience, remember the collapse of the USSR.
    So the war is practically not real.
    1. +2
      7 November 2013 10: 22
      It is cheaper to pay, but when the columns fulfill their function, then the flow of money is very meager ... and there is a possibility that the column will start "z @ peeling" and not pay tribute ... the most profitable option for them is a total reduction of the population of the Russian Federation and turning him into savages who live in caves and holes ... And these goals are achievable only through war ... ... so the war is very real! And most importantly, it is economically viable for the United States.
    2. optimist
      +1
      7 November 2013 10: 32
      Quote: rolik2
      But why should the US strike at Russia ??? It is much easier (and cheaper) to pay the 5th, 6th .... columns quarreling among themselves Russians, Belarusians, Kazakhs ..... plunging the country into chaos, and then just just stretch babosy.

      It is precisely this simple truth that many respected members of the forum do not want to understand. If in 91 they managed to overwhelm the USSR with its enormous power, iron ideology and relatively undisturbed population, then today they put the Russian Federation "in the third position" - "like two fingers on the asphalt." It is enough to simply "hint" to the Russian "elite" that there will be problems with accounts, real estate and families in the West. So let’s relax: there will be no "vigorous" war, - there are no idiots living across the ocean ...
    3. +3
      7 November 2013 12: 39
      The author begins to predict the outcome of the war of the two nuclear states, while he does not even try to comprehend, why should the US strike at Russia ???
      It’s much easier (and cheaper) to pay 5, 6 .... columns quarreling among themselves Russians, Belarusians, Kazakhs ..... plunging the country into chaos, and then just simply cut the babosy.
      And what will the war give ???
      Huge expenditures of both resources and people.
      It is not clear what the result will be.
      They already have experience, remember the collapse of the USSR.
      So the war is practically not real.


      This is understandable, which is expensive. The people did not believe in the war between Germany and the USSR either, they also said expensively why people should be killed, but 2 who hate the enemy will not be able to get along normally, someone will break loose.
      1. -1
        7 November 2013 13: 02
        Quote: T-100
        ... The people also did not believe in the war between Germany and the USSR, they also said expensively, why kill people, but 2 hating opponents will not be able to get along normally, ..

        Who, for example, voiced this point of view? What is "expensive" and "why should people ruin?" Postman Pechkin .., unknown Fraulein at the bar?
        Even England and France believed in World War II. But they didn’t really want her, and were ready to not participate in it even at the cost of losing face and honor.
        You write nonsense. Especially about some kind of hatred because of which peoples cannot get along.
  22. +10
    7 November 2013 09: 39
    It is necessary to make a revolution in the States.
  23. +6
    7 November 2013 09: 48
    May they not wage a continental war. If regular troops are crushed and control is lost, that’s enough. Will act with the wrong hands. All of Russia didn’t crap them with it. It is enough to take control of 12-15 richest regions and their task will be completed. The second, we also know we won’t get to Washington, but by the war with us they will achieve their main goal. Russia, as their main geopolitical competitor, will be destroyed even if they do not take control of resources. But this is possible only with a 100% guarantee of the destruction of our strategic nuclear forces in the war by conventional means in the next twenty years (let's be realistic), we have no chance, regardless of the unprecedented courage and heroism of our people. And our neighbors as soon as they understand that the fangs were pulled out by the bear and the claws instantly from our friends will turn into uncle Sema's friends. Turkey, China, Poland, Iran, and brothers, I think they want to chew. My opinion is not so simple.
  24. +4
    7 November 2013 10: 08
    Or imagine a situation:
    Suppose today, November 07.11.2013, 9, at 00:XNUMX a.m., the RF Armed Forces delivered a preemptive strike on the American strategic nuclear forces. Parts of the Marine Corps landed on the east and west coasts, and airborne units in the interior of the United States.
    How long will the Americans resist, and will they just do it? Fiction of course, but the opinions are interesting.
    1. roller2
      +1
      7 November 2013 10: 17
      How long will the Americans resist, and will they just do it?


      It would be foolish to think that they will not. That and not so long have to resist. how were you going to supply your group across the ocean?
      1. +1
        7 November 2013 14: 38
        what? Why supply them ?, there is more than they can bring, everything will be in their place))))
      2. 0
        7 November 2013 14: 49
        so we are familiar, we can dine with amers, we don’t need fat as you
  25. +1
    7 November 2013 10: 18
    hi Not everything is as rosy as it is written, if the SGA has confidence in the suppression of at least 80% of our strategic nuclear forces, then they can think "And not to risk it, and in one fell swoop to end this bone in the throat", 2) What will withstand the powerful military-industrial complex SGA, stirred up anthill? when all the infrastructure, communications and control are destroyed, finish off the remnants of our military-industrial complex, but no question, everything will be reduced to the number of warheads, it will remain partisan, but this is not the Second World War, nor the VKP (b), nor Stalin, one "fifth column" which will immediately scream "We lost, why shed extra blood! "and where is the confidence that our powers that be will not declare" At the request of the working oligarchs, managers and kreakls, we surrender. " I hope I'm wrong, I really hope.
  26. +2
    7 November 2013 10: 19
    Delirium, excuse me, but nonsense. To suddenly disarm the American strategic nuclear forces, you need to have sufficient means for this. Mattress toppers are estimated to have between 2500 and 7000 axes. Shoigu ordered the availability of the X-555 in our country to be increased 2020 times by 30, and by 2020 you will not believe this. The marines on our large landing ships will be destroyed hundreds, if not thousands of miles from the American coast. It is necessary to revive the army and the navy, but the conclusion is correct, but unfortunately we have only a talking shop. Rogozin unfortunately turned into Mr. "tomorrow" or "soon"
    1. 0
      7 November 2013 14: 52
      But why do we send our marines there? We will arm their Indians and say that we will return their lands to them - and on you is the 5th column on the North American continent
  27. w2000
    +6
    7 November 2013 10: 28
    The article is nonsense! Reduced to the idiom "no need to rock the boat." But the capitalist oligarchs and their hangers-on who have settled in the Kremlin are not interested in rocking the boat. This whole clique must be destroyed and returned to the people - what is rightfully theirs. What is needed is not walking around the swamp with placards, but an implacable, armed struggle against the capitalist exploiters and officials serving them jackals, the country needs a Socialist Revolution! Happy holiday of the Great October Socialist Revolution, comrades! Truth will win!
  28. Bashkaus
    +4
    7 November 2013 10: 41
    Well, yes, the author is right. Yesterday I already gave an example of three missile cruisers in the Mediterranean - on the one hand, strength, and on the other, we lost 3 nuclear missile cruisers, one nuclear aircraft carrier (now Chinese). Moreover, we lost them not in a brave battle against all the US aircraft carrier groups combined, but ourselves, voluntarily under the cries of "perestroika, glasnost, democracy" We cut the Voevoda that inspired the enemy in exchange for literally torn jeans and chewing gum. And how many submarines, strategic bombers, space projects such as Buran, Skif, Spiral?
    Can Russia have a worse enemy than its own nonsense?
  29. 0
    7 November 2013 10: 41
    I want to ask this question: is their people able to withstand such a war morally.

    Naturally, the overwhelming majority has something to protect, and this majority knows that if they fight with us, then for the sake of extermination, therefore if death threatens, it is advisable to take as many enemies as possible with you.
  30. +2
    7 November 2013 10: 47
    it is necessary to take preventive measures - to destroy the fifth column and wage an irreconcilable ideological war against the countries of western liberasty
  31. +2
    7 November 2013 10: 49
    Quote: rolik2
    It’s much easier (and cheaper) to pay 5, 6 .... columns quarreling among themselves Russians, Belarusians, Kazakhs ..... plunging the country into chaos, and then just simply cut the babosy.

    In Russia, there has long been a deliberate etching of peoples. The most interesting thing is that the authorities react very sluggishly to this. I don’t want to think that there are near-minded people at the helm, most likely the so-called agents of influence, still have sufficient weight and possess what gives them the opportunity to openly mischief.

    Quote: rolik2
    So the war is practically not real.

    But completely excluding the probability is also not right.
    1. +3
      7 November 2013 13: 38
      Quote: MRomanovich
      In Russia, there has been a purposeful pitting of peoples for a long time. The most interesting thing is that the authorities react very sluggishly to this.

      Why is it sluggish. Try to raise the issue of recognizing the rights of the state-forming people in the country for the Russians, and the authorities will react very quickly, accusing them of Nazism and inciting ethnic hatred. The Kremlin generally cuts from the word Russian. There is even advertising on the streets of cities, where the Russian language is not hesitantly distorted on banners and posters, replacing the "Internet" and "Dzhamshuts" with the wretchedly primitive language. In any normal country, for this, both the advertiser and the performer would be imposed with not sickly fines. And what about us - nravitstsa cattle.
    2. Yarosvet
      0
      7 November 2013 15: 41
      Quote: MRomanovich
      In Russia, there has long been a deliberate etching of peoples. The most interesting thing is that the authorities react very sluggishly to this. I don’t want to think that there are near-minded people at the helm, most likely the so-called agents of influence, still have sufficient weight and possess what gives them the opportunity to openly mischief.

      And to admit the only version explaining everything - that it is precisely the authorities that pit just that - what, religion does not allow?
  32. +5
    7 November 2013 10: 54
    Today, in the courtyard of the 21 century, the century of space flights, rockets, supersonic fighters, multi-ton bombers and UAVs. The time when precisely high-tech weapons gives opportunities and determines power. And due to these circumstances, the role of man and his quality plays an increasingly smaller role, because he controls such weapons remotely and even a small number of people. This is during the battle on the Kulikovo field, near Borodino or near Prokhorovka, when the wars went into a frontal attack on the enemy and where it was very necessary to have courage and courage ... Times have changed.
    I do not recognize naked patriotism only in relation to one kind of troops, the triad of strategic nuclear forces / tactical nuclear weapons and aerospace defense! As soon as the strategic nuclear forces of Russia reduce their combat readiness and number, a quick, accurate and fatal blow will follow, to finish off the remnants of the strategic nuclear forces, and then a second destructive wave will follow slowly, not even for people, thousands of planes, after the clouds of tomahawks, will destroy the entire military and civilian infrastructure, plunging the country into the cave age, where people are chasing the last piece of bread ... And then the “new horde” of mercenaries from around the world will come ... and I seek out flocks of drones circling like kites with their cold thermal imagers living in the forests of the remaining rebellious Russians ... Subsequently, rewriting history and making box office films about the heroic Russian Indians. So neither dug karamultuki, nor partisanism, nor your courage, nor courage, as well as faith in invincible ancestors will save you ... if you do not keep up with the times.
    It is necessary to continuously improve and develop the Russian Nuclear Shield, as the only means of maintaining balance in this world and 100% guarantees of security and sovereignty. The strategic nuclear forces of Russia are not only the strategic security of Russia itself, but also the security of the entire sane part of humanity.
    Z.Y. I think excessive arrogance is very dangerous, it’s better to overdo it than not overdo it.
  33. makarov
    0
    7 November 2013 10: 55
    Quote: Semurg
    On their territory they fought twice with an equal enemy, but for a long time. This is the struggle for independence from England and the civil war of the north and south.

    SW Semurg.
    I did not make a reservation. The war with Britain was not yet the United States, but only a colony. Between south and north, it is civilian, but not with an external adversary.
  34. +1
    7 November 2013 10: 59
    It is impossible to destroy all launchers with nuclear weapons with a preemptive strike. this is especially true for mobile complexes and strategic submarines that are located outside the base on combat duty and are constantly changing their locations. It is enough to survive several complexes or one nuclear submarine of the Borey class to plunge the United States into the Stone Age or in general, so that for many years this North American continent would be unsuitable for habitation. Mattresses are well aware.
    1. 0
      7 November 2013 14: 57
      it’s enough to blow up the boat with the available nuclear missiles in either the Pacific or the Atlantic oceans and the wave will cover America from the coast to the coast
  35. iulai
    +11
    7 November 2013 10: 59
    The enemy number one for our state is corrupt officials at all levels! Remember Saddam Hussein, he was sold by corrupt officials, both military and civilian. The enemy has two intentions - internal separatism, all talk about the separation of any territories should be equal to high treason and the punishment should be 25 years. And there should be no extenuating circumstances - 25 years and period.
  36. +7
    7 November 2013 11: 00
    The article is a minus. He began, as they say, for health, and ended with a phrase in which the thought is written in red ribbon: God forbid us to rebel against the power and our sun-redeemed savior. Yes, if not he ...
    I will tell you about another "proven tool". This is total corruption, the lack of responsibility of officials and the authorities before the law, the mass stupefaction of young people through reforms in education, science, etc., the debilitation of DTV and the media, the creation of entire projects that have no practical value and whose only task is to launder and withdraw money from the budget. funds. Reform of the police, health care. Pension reform - there is no money there anymore, they are thinking about raising the retirement age. The dominance of visiting migrants and related crime. I can go on for a long time ...
    And yet, after the revolution, Stalin still had two decades to carry out the industrialization of the country, end the famine and almost manage to prepare the country for war.
    And after your sun will remain scorched earth, a territory that does not even have the potential, neither mental nor resource, in order to once again turn into a COUNTRY. And therefore ...
    Today is the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution. Happy holiday, men! drinks
  37. 0
    7 November 2013 11: 03
    Yes, Russia is not dwarfs for you, which the States and their mongrel attacked by aircraft, knowing that there wouldn’t be a retaliatory strike, history doesn’t come to everyone for the future, which means dealing with Russia and its people.
  38. poccinin
    -2
    7 November 2013 11: 09
    Yes, they just have a thin gut to communicate with RUSSIA, even if NATO comes and DO NOT BUILD! RUSSIA STANDED AND WILL STAND FOR A THOUSAND YEARS. It is dangerous to make a revolution. Now it’s not 18-19 centuries. the revolution will begin, NATO will come, and the USA (to seize nuclear weapons) so the war will begin again. and in our Far East and Siberia the taiga is not passable but just for the partisans. GOOD MEN WILL STAND UP FROM THE TABLE. they do not have Internet. Skype social networks. but they have families and they will tear anyone to shreds.
  39. +1
    7 November 2013 11: 09
    If our defense will be in such a war, there WILL BE !!!! The only scenario will be the Izuit vile for which we are not ready. Russia can be either a great power or it will not be given another.
  40. +6
    7 November 2013 11: 20
    I personally will tear this scum even with my teeth, even with my hands. And let her woman give a berdanka to him next to him in the trench and at least spit no air to her son. And I will not do it because I protect the family, or rather, not only because of this, but because I have two handfuls of grandfather's orders in my safe and two great-grandfathers. And if I don’t have enough, I will look into my son’s eyes and what right I will have to come to grandfathers to graves. So Lord, if necessary, give me strength and courage to deprive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  41. 0
    7 November 2013 11: 24
    Sorry Author, but the title is provocative. Ie will not take by force, but take ..... how? By persuasion, bribery, deceit? The indecent analogies climb into the head, from this the mood begins to deteriorate and pass into the aggressive stage.
    In principle, write about the obvious. But the name ....
  42. +3
    7 November 2013 11: 24
    in general, in the event of a protracted war, we will experience tangible food problems in view of the collapse of the agricultural sector and the unclear situation with the strategic food supply.
    20 years of "wonderful" reforms have not been in vain, unfortunately
  43. +2
    7 November 2013 11: 31
    1) Americans have never had an equal or even strong enemy in comparison with them.

    I reached this line and didn’t read further, it’s no longer true.
    The author believes that England at the time of the war "for independence" was equal to or weaker than America? And Spain?
    No, the Americans had to fight with opponents equal in strength and stronger ...
    1. +1
      7 November 2013 11: 46
      when it was ? Today, the American is different - rights, benefits, freedom and other crap turned them into dependents and slobs.
    2. 0
      8 November 2013 03: 41
      Quote: svp67
      The author believes that England at the time of the war "for independence" was equal to or weaker than America? And Spain?

      The Russians and the French did not allow the British to crush the uprising in the American colonies, and they would have crushed and did not frown. The Spaniards - yes, were weaker many times weaker.
  44. 0
    7 November 2013 11: 35
    Boys hiand meanwhile, in the neighborhood is an excellent article: Russians and the “game”: an answer to the challenge of history. http://politobzor.net/show-7475-russkie-i-igra-otvet-na-vyzov-istorii.html
    In fact, the transition in the modern situation from war to game means a transition from large-scale large-scale wars and mobilization, to a war of meanings, ideas, to a game of political technology; gunboats and tanks will be replaced by organizational weapons; education systems, legislation, media, culture and art, the Internet, social media are becoming a battleground. The adversary acts non-linearly ...
  45. +4
    7 November 2013 11: 39
    Quote: major071
    I’ll go dig a machine gun just in case.
    The author did not take into account the fact that when modeling this described situation, not all ICBMs will be destroyed, because ours, too, do not bast their cabbage soup and the United States is waiting for a retaliatory strike. But in the near future, such a scenario is impossible. But on land (here I agree with the author) the United States will not be able to wage war with Russia. Because they will take care of their ass, and we will defend our homeland, and this is our holy duty. Therefore, the United States and seeks to ruin Russia from the inside, applying all the ways.

    And for some reason I am not so much afraid of Americans as our "effective managers" What do not you say there, and Gorbach and EBN were not Americans, it is true that it is difficult to call them Russians. And how many of us still have the same who are tearing the country to pieces, this is more terrible than amers.
  46. 0
    7 November 2013 11: 45
    Quote: angolaforever
    If by some miracle, as the author writes, they would be able to destroy all ICBMs and SSBNs at once, then Russia’s Khan, it’s like cutting off the hands of a boxer.

    No, not Khan.
    In this case, they will be able to defeat Russia only by making its territory unsuitable for life and further use, that is, by using nuclear weapons, but they really need territory. But by ordinary means, they can conquer Russia from their gut, in the Pentagon they understand this very well negative
  47. +4
    7 November 2013 12: 00
    I will say how the warrior of Russia against America ends) END OF THE EARTH!
  48. 0
    7 November 2013 12: 02
    Quote: 3935333
    The Americans are well aware that the power of the Russian Federation will not be able to get on their knees for a long time .... But these dogs are constantly together with the whole pack (NAT

    I agree, but not for long, but never drinks
  49. -4
    7 November 2013 12: 08
    And therefore I ask all our citizens to be imbued with the thought that all these protests, speeches at Bolotnaya and Sakharovaya will not lead to good.


    Yeah, that's why everyone in a united rush should rally shoulder to shoulder around a party of crooks and thieves, close their eyes to the theft of our ruling elite, obsequiously welcome all the wise initiatives of our government and the guarantor of the constitution personally, think less, watch more on the first television channel, soak in jar hatred of not systemic opposition ... And the most important thing to forget, but better wink to score for your personal interests, directly dissolve in a single patriotic frenzy, put health for the good of our dear leaders))) Not a prospect, but a dream of the Kremlin troll.
    1. +1
      7 November 2013 23: 04
      In your opinion, you need to stir up the current government, and with it the whole country, so that other thieves, including foreign thieves, will rob it, as in the 90s? Then smash the temples and build in their place gaming brothels with a brothel service? Or how? And I’ll tell you how the fuck!
      1. 0
        12 November 2013 11: 15
        Quote: Victor-M
        And I’ll tell you how the fuck!

        It is very joyful to see a clear view of the electorate on how to solve problems in Russia ... Well, keep it up;)
  50. Corporal
    +2
    7 November 2013 12: 12
    Hat-covering. "Do not boast going to the army
  51. +1
    7 November 2013 12: 13
    Quote: rolik2
    But you won’t have to resist for so long. How are you going to supply your group across the ocean?

    And you will help. Or do you think they won’t touch you? They’ll touch you at the same time, so to speak. So you won’t be able to sit out laughing
  52. Federal
    +1
    7 November 2013 12: 18
    another crazy story in the style of Russian paranoia.... All enemies! We are surrounded! Let's die for our Motherland! Where are the moderators looking when they pass this senile nonsense?
    1. 0
      8 November 2013 03: 44
      Quote: Federal
      another crazy story in the style of Russian paranoia.... All enemies!

      Not all, but there are enemies. Are American military bases near our borders also paranoid?
  53. Peaceful military
    +3
    7 November 2013 12: 25
    I agree with the author that if everything develops in a classical way, then technical superiority will be offset by the Russian spirit and territory.
    BUT!
    The “partners” take this into account and aim precisely at destroying the Russian spirit and raising compradors to control the supposed colonies and concessions into which they want to turn Russia.
    So the war has been going on, as they say, in full force, for 500 years.
    Here's a good article about it:
  54. Abracadabra
    -11
    7 November 2013 12: 31
    Some Nashist wrote this nonsense when he was hungover... But what a resonance! How many crazy comments! :)) As long as people with brains are called all sorts of 5th, 6th, etc. columns, and these are those who just went to Bolotnaya, the immigration of brains will only intensify. But the patriots are not capable of anything. By the way, an article in the style of a novice Goebels, or a North Korean news announcer..
    1. 0
      7 November 2013 15: 05
      and I would ask you guys not to interfere when men are talking
  55. -11
    7 November 2013 12: 32
    If, as the author writes, the Americans destroyed our country twice in 1917 and in 1991, then there is only one conclusion - these states were unviable or simply impotent. A strong state does not fall apart from the inside. And the fact that it is always easier to fight with a weakened enemy has been known since ancient times. What prevented the USSR from destroying the USA? There is only one answer - a poor, primitive ideology that could not oppose anything to the aggressive ideological pressure of the states. Throw drool at me, but American society survived the Cold War, but Soviet society did not.
    1. Avenger711
      +4
      7 November 2013 13: 04
      Stalin's USSR would have survived. But not the same bunch of senile people who were carried out wholesale from the Kremlin to the cemetery in the early 80s.
    2. +2
      7 November 2013 15: 03
      Answer the question, is the USA a strong state? And what will you answer after its collapse? There are prerequisites for this.
      And why is a strong state so afraid of impotent states (in your terminology)?
      If we are weak, but they fear us, then why are we alive?
      Or will you argue that the United States is the most humane state on earth?
      But then what about Yugoslavia, Iraq, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Afghanistan, Pakistan (shooting terrorists in half with civilians) and, in the end, Syria?
      1. -2
        7 November 2013 18: 03
        Quote: Avenger711
        Answer the question, is the USA a strong state?

        If they haven’t fallen apart over the 200 years of their existence, that means they’re strong. What other arguments can you give?
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        If we are weak, but they fear us, then why are we alive?

        Who's afraid of us? Maybe stop flattering yourself, and it’s better to take care of the country’s economy.
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        But then what about Yugoslavia, Iraq, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Afghanistan, Pakistan (shooting terrorists in half with civilians) and, in the end, Syria?

        What does this have to do with it? Although you contradict yourself. The USA is a country with imperial thinking and imperial policies, therefore they are fighting not on their own territory, but on someone else’s. Unlike weak Russia, which has been poking around in the Caucasus for 20 years.
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  57. DuraLexSedLex.
    0
    7 November 2013 12: 56
    Gentlemen, what kind of horror stories?) Like children, America - war, let there be no war - they will buy the top again and divide us up like piglets, and we will be glad, all the fucked-up ones will sit))) War-partisans, nothing like that will not be.
    1. Yarosvet
      -1
      7 November 2013 15: 54
      Quote: DuraLexSedLex.
      the top will be bought again

      What does it mean - they will buy again?

      Nobody bought anyone - they themselves decided to grab the people’s property, they grabbed it themselves (they paid for help and advice from the West a long time ago), they own it themselves.

      As soon as you begin to consider the actions of the Government from the logic of the actions of the organized crime group, everything falls into place, and questions about the discrepancy between an adequate foreign policy and an senile domestic policy do not arise.
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  59. Avenger711
    -2
    7 November 2013 13: 01
    The author doesn’t know the history, but there he goes. MINUS.
  60. +2
    7 November 2013 13: 04
    Everything is said correctly, especially in the canon of the holiday, although not everyone considers this date a holiday, but still this is another topic.
    As for America: they have always fought dirty and vile. As soon as they got hit in the teeth in Vietnam, they immediately began to poison the territory and, as a result, the people living on it, with chemicals, the consequences of which are still felt by the residents of Vietnam.
    Just now there is an article on the website about this:

    http://topwar.ru/35653-oni-ubivali-detey-vetnamskaya-voyna-stala-pervym-zvonochk
    om-stavyaschim-pod-somnenie-isklyuchitelnost-ssha.html

    It goes without saying that they cannot take Mother Russia, but we cannot fight. We are too vulnerable now. The demographic pitfalls from the Second World War are still felt. You need to take it with cunning, wear down the creatures, hit them in the gut... That’s why they started this complete “reset” because they are weak now, they need to cover the front until they get back on their feet and under no circumstances should you help them in this. While the animal is wounded, you need to stick the knife into the back with a smile on your face and deeper, i.e. use their own methods against them.
  61. zeka102
    0
    7 November 2013 13: 05
    I absolutely agree with the author! I don’t even want to add anything!
  62. +1
    7 November 2013 13: 32
    Impale all the Onals!
    1. 0
      7 November 2013 15: 09
      so they're just waiting for it
  63. 0
    7 November 2013 13: 44
    Why should America fight directly with us? It is much cheaper and more effective to incite ethnic hatred in the country (this is still working...), bring to power all sorts of Anals, Nemtsovs and that’s it. It is done...
    And Americans are not averse to seeing a “Russian rebellion” on Russian territory. Because after this rebellion, there will be no country. And what remains will hardly be able to climb out of the category of a banana republic.
  64. +1
    7 November 2013 13: 52
    It will be enough to just stupidly dump all the dollar cash into the world - and as in the joke “Your America no longer has it..”. These gentlemen just sit and very clearly count money. During the Second World War in the USA couldn't force Ford and a number of other companies to produce equipment for Lend-Lease - they considered that “it is not economically feasible to reconfigure the conveyors and produce new models, since the existence of the USSR is not calculated for a period of more than 2-3 years..”.
    ZY I see the same words from STZ, ChTZ and Kharkov Tractor Plant in the event of a fantastic attack on the USA by Hitler fellow laughing
  65. MOPKOBKA2000
    +1
    7 November 2013 14: 01
    It is stupid to equate the military power of the United States and Russia
  66. +1
    7 November 2013 14: 01
    Quote: a52333
    Precisely, exactly.
    Where the forces of the Americans and their opponents were 30: 1 approximately.
    And with other ratios and teeth can be obtained.
    Preventive war against Russia - suicide due to fear of death. Bismarck.

    Take a closer look at how Americans usually fight. In Cuba in 1899, after landing and trying to defeat the weak Spanish garrison, they were about to capitulate, but bad luck - the Spaniards were the first to surrender.
    In Grenada, the Cuban builders beat them up so much with improvised means that they almost shot everyone out of anger when the Cubans ran out of ammunition.
    Ordinary Americans are very afraid of Russians, pathologically. The real problem of the American army was its modern composition. From open sources it is known who is going there now - the scum of society. That’s why there is such cruelty and abuse of the unarmed that we see on the Internet. But such scum are not capable of a serious war! And the American command understands this.
  67. Altair
    -3
    7 November 2013 14: 27
    Many of our citizens are probably afraid that the Americans will, so to speak, disarm our strategic nuclear forces with a lightning strike. So, what is next?

    Next, the Americans will use modern JASSM-ER cruise missiles, X-47B carrier-based drones, HARM anti-radar missiles and the F-35, capable of destroying ground targets (including air defense) with high efficiency.
    JASSM-ER:http://www.rnd.cnews.ru/army/news/line/index_science.shtml?2012/08/15/499485

    Features of the F-35 Radar

    ----


    Having crushed the Russian air defense system and fighter aircraft into fine nanodust (a sudden attack on airfields, the F-22 and F-35 will finish off the remnants), the United States will be able to fly with impunity in Russian airspace and bomb everything that they do not like/raises suspicion.
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  69. Altair
    -8
    7 November 2013 14: 38
    all the people will rise to defend the Fatherland. A powerful partisan movement will unfold

    After some time, the Americans will destroy all the remaining equipment (from the air) and only the partisans with MANPADS/ATGM/RPG will remain. MANPADS have a short range and target engagement height; in addition, there are laser countermeasure systems.

    Modern KAZ (for example Trophy) will negate the threat of RPGs/ATGMs. Also, don’t forget that you can’t make MANPADS/ATGM/RPGs on your knees, and after a while they will be completely used up (in 90% of cases wasted: laser countermeasure systems, KAZ Trophy).
    Snipers (partisans) will be shot using modern sniper detection systems: acoustic and laser.
    MRAPs protect well from IEDs.

    It is very likely that by the time the United States is able to launch a preemptive strike on Russian strategic nuclear forces with impunity (advanced missile defense), they will already have fairly autonomous ground robots in their arsenal, and they won’t give a damn about partisans.




    How this could happen in reality:
    (Watch from 13:46)


    Also, guerrilla actions will be complicated by modern detection systems, against which modern camouflage methods are powerless:
    HALO - hybrid optics from the British company RFEL
    http://rnd.cnews.ru/army/news/line/index_science.shtml?2013/04/26/527394
    Multispectral vision systems
    http://rnd.cnews.ru/army/news/line/index_science.shtml?2013/07/30/537103
    Laser radars (LIDAR)
    http://rnd.cnews.ru/army/news/line/index_science.shtml?2013/04/26/527208

    All of these systems can be installed on drones that can stay in the air for hours (and circle over forests).



    In the West, military airships are being developed that do not consume any energy at all to stay in the air (electronics consume little).



    Conclusions: the partisan movement will soon be defeated.
    1. +3
      7 November 2013 15: 14
      Have you watched Spielberg, re-read science fiction? And I understand that Battlefield 4 is out, my son is also worried when in the game the “poor” Russian soldier has nowhere to hide from the “coolest” soldiers in the universe (this reminded me of something from history).
      Have you seen a psychotherapist about insomnia or nightmares? I recommend.
      1. Altair
        0
        7 November 2013 15: 35
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        Have you watched Spielberg, re-read science fiction? I understand Battlefield 4 is out

        Actually, these are video presentations from Western defense companies, not Spielberg.
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        Have you seen a psychotherapist about insomnia or nightmares? I recommend.

        Thank you, my health is fine. wink
        1. +1
          7 November 2013 15: 45
          Quote: Altair
          Thank you, my health is fine.


          I am sincerely happy for your health.

          http://video.yandex.ru/search?text=%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F%20
          %D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B0&where=all&filmId=X7Qd-UlMs3M
          And you can also dig up a bunch of links, where exactly the opposite will be told about Our weapons.
          Advertising. It is also an advertisement in Africa.
          And God forbid you see all this in real action.
          There will be no partisans left anywhere.
          Including in states that are godlike in your opinion. There will be a radical reduction in them, just like the reduction of a single planet.
          1. Altair
            -4
            7 November 2013 16: 32
            Quote: JIaIIoTb
            And you can also dig up a bunch of links, where exactly the opposite will be told about Our weapons.

            Impact force? - laughing
            Propaganda broadcast, like a military secret from Prokopenko.
            Prokopenko: “a cumulative jet heated to plasma temperature”, “merkava 4 hypersonic missiles flying through the barrel”, etc. This despite the fact that Prokopenko is a lieutenant colonel (he himself claimed).
            Impact Strength: 176 Tomahawk Hunter
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDUi7rHS23Q
            In the reality:
            (watch video 24:15-26:05)
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv57h6fZqvA
            Quote: JIaIIoTb
            And God forbid you see all this in real action.

            Western countries have had new weapons in service for a long time, but in Russia only the “Terminator” is the 18th modernization of the T-72. I think we should wait for Armata by 2030, because they’re probably drawing on drawing boards and haven’t heard of CAE...
            1. +2
              7 November 2013 17: 18
              Propaganda broadcast, like a military secret from Prokopenko.

              Hm. You are a funny little man. A
              Quote: Altair
              video presentations from Western defense companies
              Isn't this propaganda? belay
              About everything you have written, we can safely write that a person fell into the snare of propaganda hostile to His State. Or is Russia not your State? If it’s not yours, then we will treat you and your opuses approximately the same way we treat (for example) Pimply. We know that he is not a friend. But suddenly we read not only lies laughing (Pimply no offense)
              And if you are a citizen of Russia...then you need to pray so that war does not break out between Russia and the United States. You will be the first to be put up against the wall for your opuses. Bo, in wartime people like you don’t stand on ceremony.
              1. Altair
                -7
                7 November 2013 17: 59
                Quote: JIaIIoTb
                Or is Russia not your State? If not yours then treat you and your opuses we will be approximately the same as we treat (for example) Pimply.

                Pimply and the professor - Russia's best friends (indisputable fact).

                No matter how you feel about a missile flying at you, it will still kill you... (Your opinion has no effect on Western weapons).
                Quote: JIaIIoTb
                And if you are a citizen of Russia...then you need to pray so that war does not break out between Russia and the United States. You will be the first to be put up against the wall for your opuses. Bo, in wartime people like you don’t stand on ceremony.

                You need to be kinder, kinder...
                1. +1
                  7 November 2013 18: 10
                  Altair. I understand what country you are from. I won’t even argue with you anymore...it’s useless. As for friends......there are big doubts.
                  Well, about the rocket. No matter how you feel about a rocket flying at you, it will still kill you... (Your opinion on our rockets have no effect)
                2. Valery Neonov
                  -2
                  9 November 2013 06: 34
                  In just one day, even in such denial, you are having fun... well, well. negative The simplest and most effective thing to do is simply ignore people like you - this is the best way to cleanse the site of self-righteous dirty tricks!
            2. 0
              7 November 2013 22: 38
              Well, if we draw analogies, then the machine tool industry in Japan and the United States have only just been able to make a machine, a lathe, with a processing accuracy of 2 microns.
              But in the USSR in 1986 in Saratov there were TWO workshops of such machines, now of course there are fewer left, but the very fact of comparison is important.....
              1. Altair
                0
                7 November 2013 23: 18
                It's good...
                How are things going with 3D printers in Russia?
                http://www.rnd.cnews.ru/tech/news/line/index_science.shtml?2013/08/29/540837
                1. 0
                  8 November 2013 04: 22
                  Quote: Altair
                  How are things going with 3D printers in Russia?

                  The person who answers this question will spend the rest of his life in prison.
                  1. Altair
                    0
                    8 November 2013 10: 48
                    Secret? wink
                    Why are they talking about this openly in the USA?
                    Here is a link to the manufacturer's website: http://www.arcam.com/
                    Here is a video (how it works): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_qSnjKN7f8
              2. Altair
                +1
                9 November 2013 18: 38
                Quote: I am
                Well, if we draw analogies, then the machine tool industry in Japan and the United States have only just been able to make a machine, a lathe, with a processing accuracy of 2 microns.
                But in the USSR in 1986...

                Regarding machine tool industry:
            3. 0
              8 November 2013 04: 14
              Quote: Altair
              Western countries have had new weapons in service for a long time, but in Russia only the “Terminator” is the 18th modernization of the T-72. I think we should wait for Armata by 2030, because they’re probably drawing on drawing boards and haven’t heard of CAE...

              I don’t want to upset you, but the United States is armed with equally old Abrams, F-16s and generally ancient tomahawks. May I remind you of the F-117 fiasco? however, this did not teach the Americans anything, and now we see an analogue of the F-117 at sea - the Zumvolt.
              1. Altair
                0
                8 November 2013 11: 02
                And I don’t want to upset you, but 187 F-22s say the opposite...
                1. 0
                  8 November 2013 13: 27
                  Quote: Altair
                  And I don’t want to upset you, but 187 F-22s say the opposite...

                  These F22s of yours are in hangars, and the F16s and F18s are fighting.
                  1. Altair
                    0
                    8 November 2013 16: 28
                    F-22 - Conquest Fighter air superiority! It's cheaper to bomb the Papuans with the F-16/F-18.
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5haHEtqk8sY
    2. +6
      7 November 2013 15: 17
      read-read. looked and looked. I understand that resistance is useless and the paws are up? FUCK YOUR COLLAR. we are Russians. and the Russians, as you know, do not give up. I passed the deadline a long time ago, but I remember where the hook is on the AK. If I have to go into the forest, I will. and then we’ll see how they, with all their machinery and Geyropov’s mongrels, will swallow the dust. and I think in Russia I am far from alone.
      1. Fox
        Fox
        +1
        8 November 2013 11: 22
        Please tell me how far into the forest they took you away from the field kitchen during the “emergency”? I’m asking to know, because... My “urgent” was in the Salsky steppes, and now I live in the forests of the North-West.
      2. German
        0
        11 November 2013 05: 45
        Not only in Russia there are such things...I’ve been watering my garden with oil for 12 years now. It’s left over from my grandfather...You can expect anything with our Bendera residents.
    3. +3
      7 November 2013 15: 19
      Israel was able to 100% secure its territory? The country is very small and they couldn’t. But to block the territory of the Russian Federation of those drones you need echelons, plus a frantic flow of information that will need to be analyzed and to which you need to respond with a flight, bombing, maintenance. They’ll hang out for a week, they’ll understand that catching single targets (partisans) is too expensive and that’s it. By the way, the range of action still remains - you can’t land on the European part (it’s full of radiation after the destruction of strategic nuclear forces) - and in Siberia, sorry, we have autobahns to adapt to runways no. As a result, the flight time and mileage will be crazy, immediately a drop in equipment resources, repairs, release of new ones - and all for the sake of a couple of partisans tearing up a pipeline. What does it mean? - golden oil will be easier to buy for candy wrappers
      1. Altair
        -3
        7 November 2013 15: 48
        Quote: your1970
        plus a frantic flow of information

        Coming soon: 100 Gbps military wireless network
        http://rnd.cnews.ru/army/news/line/index_science.shtml?2013/07/22/536229
        Quote: your1970
        By the way, the range of action still remains - you can’t land on the European part (it’s full of radiation after the destruction of the strategic nuclear forces)

        "Pluto" - a nuclear heart for a supersonic low-altitude cruise missile
        http://topwar.ru/35496-pluton-yadernoe-serdce-dlya-sverhzvukovoy-nizkovysotnoy-k
        rylatoy-rakety.html
        Here they somehow solved the problems with radiation protection...
        Quote: your1970
        and in Siberia, sorry, we don’t have autobahns to accommodate runways.

        Take a closer look at the video, it shows a vertical take-off and landing drone from Lockheed Martin.
        1. 0
          8 November 2013 04: 29
          Quote: Altair
          Coming soon: 100 Gbps military wireless network

          Apparently you have no idea what you are talking about. All these “victorious” articles about new technologies do not talk about their disadvantages. The shorter the wavelength, the higher the density of transmitted information; however, the shorter the wavelength, the shorter the transmission distance and resistance to interference.
          1. Altair
            0
            8 November 2013 10: 56
            Quote: Setrac
            All these “victorious” articles about new technologies do not talk about their disadvantages. The shorter the wavelength, the higher the density of transmitted information; however, the shorter the wavelength, the shorter the transmission distance and resistance to interference.

            Well, stupid... (Americans)
    4. +3
      7 November 2013 15: 37
      yes, I partially agree, but don’t forget that American missile defense systems react to microwave ovens, and a diesel generator can run more than one of them, i.e. to nullify the works of their systems and + to everything Russian resourcefulness. The Americans have already threatened us that they will launch a system to combat satellites - our answer is: we will launch a carload of bolts into orbit, and your entire system will be screwed. What does it cost to produce a carload of bolts or create an expensive space system?
      1. Altair
        0
        7 November 2013 23: 42
        Quote: chief.matros
        but do not forget that American missile defense systems react to microwave ovens

        Only sausages “react” to microwave ovens...
    5. 0
      7 November 2013 22: 36
      There are also radio-controlled tanks, boats and airplanes.
      These things, EVERYTHING in the video, are toys. A couple of men with crowbars and from the whole heap - also a HEAP but color-metal and rubbish. And then, where will all this jump??? On our roads??? don't be funny about my tights......
      1. Altair
        +1
        7 November 2013 23: 26
        Quote: I am
        These things, EVERYTHING in the video - Toys.

        Only in your girlish fantasies...
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  71. FormerMariman
    +4
    7 November 2013 14: 51
    The United States has no point in fighting with Russia. They need controlled chaos in Russia and, as a consequence, puppet control of Russia with its resources! Chaos can also be ignited through the national issue or other weak points (if they do not exist, then they must be created). Russia should not be afraid of missiles, but of its trolls and their barricade followers, who are always dreaming of a riot. But of course you shouldn’t forget about rockets.
  72. Archibald
    0
    7 November 2013 15: 06
    The article doesn't know what or why. Especially about the partisan movement, wars are not like these now, so that someone’s troops, especially American ones, seize our territories, etc. Everything will be different...
  73. +3
    7 November 2013 15: 07
    And then what? What's the point of empty flying over a decently landscaped area? Where's the money for which all the fuss is going on?
    for the sake of oil and gas? and the local idiots (who accidentally survived) tearing up highways? and the crowd of people who want to survive rushing in all directions (and countries)? and the epidemics? and the radioactive rains all over the earth?
  74. 0
    7 November 2013 15: 15
    It’s in vain that the article is so “cheerful”... Unfortunately, the author is mistaken in many ways...
    We need to start with the fact that the United States is waging only non-contact wars and there will be no continental war.
    And a pro-American government will be imposed after hypothetical strikes.
    There are many materials describing a possible scenario. The article “Missile blitzkrieg is postponed for now” is more realistic. And here all the conclusions are unfounded, unfortunately...
  75. 0
    7 November 2013 15: 34
    In the event of an open confrontation, Russia has one most reliable option: abandoning the dollar, in this case Russia will certainly suffer huge financial losses, but at the same time the US financial system will simply be destroyed, as a result the army will very soon not be able to conduct combat operations given the cost of American missiles, Therefore, I think the United States will not risk getting involved in a war, but will act with proven means according to the principle of divide and conquer.
    1. +4
      7 November 2013 16: 26
      but at the same time the US financial system will simply be destroyed...

      “...If a socialist country pegs its currency to a capitalist currency, then the socialist country must forget about an independent stable financial and economic system.” I.V. Stalin
      Be sure to read about Stalin's last unfinished project - the "Golden Stalin Ruble", which could become one of the world's reserve currencies. And then, out of curiosity, correlate it with the date of his death.
  76. 0
    7 November 2013 15: 45
    "4) Nothing unites our people more than the threat of an external threat." - the thought was said incorrectly. Nothing unites our people more than the threat of losing their home and loved ones.

    Because now there are a lot of external threats, I don’t see any cohesion
  77. Thunderbolt
    0
    7 November 2013 15: 59
    “This is how they destroyed the Russian Empire in 1917, and this is how they destroyed the USSR in 1991,”

    Interestingly, they destroyed the empire...they created an even stronger enemy for themselves) Therefore, either the author’s statement is not true, or the United States in general are crooked sheep and their aspirations will now be of little use. I personally am for the first option.
  78. Fox
    Fox
    +1
    7 November 2013 16: 10
    This scenario is possible if John, drunk on whiskey, throws his cowboy boots on the cruise missile launch pad.

    Strategic nuclear forces are Russia's only argument

    The impact scenario is possible, but not as stupid as described by the author. It's already been tested:
    1. Economic blockade by completely excluding Russia from the world economy.
    Apart from Europe's dependence on our gas, we have nothing to oppose, or am I mistaken?
    But the shale gas project has been launched, supertankers for liquefied gas are already being built in Korea.
    What would it be for?
    Result: over the course of a year, the strategic food supply is stupidly consumed (if we have it and if they will share it with the population), crowds of unemployed people deprived of their livelihood are moving chaotically around the country, as a result, crime is on the rise, a state of emergency is being introduced with the localization of population movements across territories.
    First in the kitchens, and then in the squares, the eternal Russian question - “WHO IS TO BLAME?”
    Police measures to maintain order are being tightened, and the ranks of the dissatisfied are multiplying. The political and economic “elite” is leaving the country en masse under guarantees of preserving what they have accumulated through back-breaking labor in foreign banks.
    The “Magnitsky List” remains with us, although it has partially moved to some China to create concessions.
    Some of the “government managers” will probably remain. And they will take the full blow of discontent.
    So - hello, RUSSIAN REVOLT!.
    1. Fox
      Fox
      +1
      7 November 2013 16: 24
      This is where an association arises with the monkey that plays with a grenade (SNF). And quite rightly, in a Western way, this grenade (ugh strategic nuclear forces) will be “discharged” with a preemptive strike.
      The question arises, who, under these conditions, will authoritatively say over the loudspeaker: “Brothers and sisters...”?, so that the generation of sales and logistics managers will all rush to the military registration and enlistment office to the sound of: “Get up, huge country,” ? The same one from which they so professionally hid, fearing service in peacetime...
      1. Fox
        Fox
        +1
        7 November 2013 16: 33
        The USA is the preacher of non-contact warfare.
        So the partisan detachment named after. Denis Davydov can only wave his fists menacingly at the flying Raptors.
    2. 0
      8 November 2013 05: 42
      Quote: Liss
      Apart from Europe's dependence on our gas, we have nothing to oppose, or am I mistaken?

      Not by much, but you are wrong. We are the third largest trading partner of the European Union in terms of transaction volume. By “excluding” Russia from the world economy, Europe alone loses half a trillion euros a year. However, it’s a substantial amount, don’t you think?
      Further. We are one of the 10 largest lenders in the United States. That is, we are a country in which the United States owes a lot of money. A big pile. They cannot tell us that they do not owe anything. Other creditors will panic and demand their money back. And this will be the last day of the USA, at least in the form in which we know it. Well, the US satellites will get the same thing, don’t spoil them.
      Plus, to all this, we are a very large market, a lot is tied to us. For example, we are the largest market in Europe for the sale of cars.
      An economist would write to you more, due to my feeble mind I cannot write anything more, but I think this is quite enough.
      1. Fox
        Fox
        0
        8 November 2013 10: 06
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        We are the 3rd trading partner of the European Union in terms of transaction volume

        All these transactions are either “oil and gas” or “near oil and gas”, such as “Nordstream”. What will remain when Europe switches to alternative sources of gas supplies?

        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        By “excluding” Russia from the world economy, Europe alone loses half a trillion euros a year. However, it’s a substantial amount, don’t you think?
        The amount is substantial, only if we consider it as a percentage of other partners of the European Union - well, we don’t look like the one with whom the EU will show the “goat face” to Ankle Sam.

        The United States has enough authority to point at Europe's monetary commercialism.
        And we shouldn’t exaggerate this commercialism - for the sake of the “debauchery” in Libya, how many economic expediencies have France, Italy and others like them overstepped?

        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        We are one of the 10 largest lenders in the United States.
        Sorry, I'm not coming in. It’s hard to believe that people (oligarchs) investing in someone else’s economy, living on someone else’s dividends and in a country that’s foreign to us will begin to conduct an economic guerrilla war on enemy territory.
        Or do you still believe in the patriotism of Russian business?

        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        That is, we are a country in which the United States owes a lot of money. A big pile. They cannot tell us that they do not owe anything.
        So what, the accounts are simply frozen until better times, until the “right president and government.” Although the Iraqi option is possible - when payment for bombs dropped on the "terpils" is made by the "terpils" themselves. Well, like in Iraq.
        By the way, who has their accounts frozen, and who panicked or at least said “MEOW” from the creditors? Do you seriously think that our modern power will allow us to cause a global financial and economic crisis?
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        Other creditors will panic and demand their money back.
        Yeah, for example, China will abandon the “insane” policy of supporting the dollar, which it has been pursuing for 10 years now...

        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        Plus, to all this, we are a very large market, a lot is tied to us. For example, we are the largest market in Europe for the sale of cars.
        Yeah, also Polish potatoes, Lithuanian cheese, German beef, Dutch tulips, Norwegian cod, Spanish strawberries, Greek olives, Turkish resorts... Therefore, they will simply stand as a united front in our defense. Funny!

        In short, in your opinion: “THE WEST WILL HELP US, STRENGTHEN!”?
        1. 0
          8 November 2013 11: 02
          Firstly the postulate
          Quote: Liss
          "The WEST WILL HELP US, STAY UP!"
          exclusively yours. There is no need to draw conclusions for me.
          Second
          Quote: Liss
          Sorry, I'm not coming in.
          I wasn’t talking about you, but about Russia, there is such a state in case you forgot. Or do you operate in categories: “The state is me!” Don't take on too much?
          Thirdly:
          Quote: Liss
          The amount is significant only if we consider it as a percentage of other EU partners
          . 65% from such a partner of the European Union as the USA. Or in your opinion is this minuscule? And 80% from China. The European Union will abandon you faster than Russia. Or are you Russian??? Somehow I doubt your nationality.
          Don't read Liberal newspapers at lunch....this is just advice.
          1. Fox
            Fox
            0
            8 November 2013 14: 01
            Dear JIaIIoTb!
            In a dialogue about a particular problem, it is customary to discuss the problem, not the interlocutor. So here's the problem: If your "WE"
            Quote: JIaIIoTb
            We are one of the 10 largest lenders in the United States.
            refers to RUSSIA, and not to us, as to US CREDITORS - your logical structure is clearly broken.
            I am not one of the US lenders - is it so affordable?

            If you analyze, then your
            “WE ARE US CREDITORS” consists of “private capital withdrawn from Russia” + “Russian state capital in the USA”. Who does he support now? Which of them will work for the benefit of Russia at a critical hour?
            Russian proverb: “The birdcatcher’s claw is stuck,” does that sound like that?
            Quote: JIaIIoTb
            Thirdly: Quote: The sum is substantial only if we consider it as a percentage of other EU partners. 65% from such a partner of the European Union as the USA. Or in your opinion is this minuscule? And 80% from China.

            Oh, dear, why this balancing act between Russia's percentage and the US's?
            Please note: “The European Union (EU) is Russia’s leading trading partner. EU countries account for approximately half (50%) of all Russian exports and imports.
            In EU foreign trade, Russia (8%) ranks third after the USA (17%) and China (14%). However, in terms of the volume of imports of goods from the EU in 2012, Russia was ahead of the United States and took second place. Among the main export markets of the European Union, Russia ranks fourth after the United States, China and Switzerland. Despite the positive dynamics of trade relations, the Russian side is not satisfied with the persistent imbalance in the structure of commodity exchange. In 2012, the main position in the supply of goods from Russia to the EU was still occupied by raw materials, primarily fuel and energy products. Imports from the EU to Russia were dominated by machinery and equipment, chemical products, finished goods and food products."
            T.O., We (Russia) have a vested interest with a 50% dependence on the European Union, their “love” for us is only 8%. It's simple.

            Quote: JIaIIoTb
            The European Union will abandon you faster than Russia.
            I have no spheres of interaction with the European Union, don’t flatter me so obviously... I’m embarrassed...
            Quote: JIaIIoTb
            Or are you Russian??? Somehow I doubt your nationality.
            Do you talk exclusively with Russians? or with non-Russians?
            I don’t even know how to answer you...
            Father-Russian, mother-Russian-Ukrainian: 1 grandfather-grandmother-Russian, 2 grandfather-grandmother-Russian-Ukrainian. His paternal great-grandfathers are Russian, and his maternal great-grandfathers are Ukrainian. Maybe send anthropological data on the skull to determine nationality? Are you a eugenicist?
            Quote: JIaIIoTb
            Don't read Liberal newspapers at lunch....this is just advice.
            I don’t read liberal books or Pravda or Tomorrow at lunch. I’m afraid I’ll lose my appetite. But thanks for the advice.
  79. +3
    7 November 2013 16: 19
    Quote: chief.matros
    more often "Russian marches"
  80. Fox
    Fox
    +2
    7 November 2013 16: 41
    The reference to a protracted war is especially touching.
    We are calmly mobilizing.
    Pasta factories are smoothly switching to the production of Kalash cartridges according to the mob assignment.
    In Lipetsk, a pipe rolling mill rolls Tochki and Yarsy pipes.
    The Java tobacco factory turns gun barrels.
    As a result, victory in the war of attrition is ours...
    Full Openwork.
  81. +1
    7 November 2013 17: 04
    Kalashnikov has a futurological novel “Special Forces of the Almighty”... It begins with the fact that a Russian with an AKM is walking through his native, occupied Russian land... All the heavy weapons of Russia were destroyed by the amers, the people are stupidly partisans in general... This is very similar to my vision of this war (with the Americans) now, I really regret that in 1983 we didn’t demolish this hotbed of unnecessary fruits...
    1. Altair
      -2
      7 November 2013 17: 22
      Quote: Altona
      Kalashnikov has a futurological novel "Special Forces of the Almighty"

      Quote: Altona
      This is very similar to my vision of this war

      У Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon - another vision (about the partisans).
      1. +1
        7 November 2013 19: 17
        Predator type drones? If the Persian brains are enough to plant this rubbish, aren’t ours enough?
        1. Altair
          -2
          7 November 2013 23: 49
          Do you still believe in fairy tales?
      2. yur
        yur
        0
        7 November 2013 22: 51
        Why can’t these poor fellows of yours see the Afghan Taliban with their “vision”?
        1. Altair
          0
          7 November 2013 23: 30
          Pakistani Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud killed
          http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/international/2013/11/131101_taleban_leader_killed.
          shtml
      3. +1
        8 November 2013 18: 55
        Lockheed Martins, Boeings and Northrop Grummans barely “strengthened” two countries - Afghanistan and Iraq, and they became tense... They couldn’t bomb Vietnam and Korea... What can we say? Learn history...Spirit is stronger than technology...And behind the joysticks of the traitors, this is not the first operator-gamer to go crazy...
    2. Fox
      Fox
      0
      7 November 2013 17: 32
      I agree with everything.
      We will only partisan with each other.
      The occupation will be economic.
      We won’t see the GI in the sights.
      “Vlasovites” will suffice as Yusov representatives.
  82. anushin10ru
    -3
    7 November 2013 17: 37
    Some kind of short article. Of course, the chances of a war between Russia and the United States are extremely small. But it seems that if this had happened, the whole of Russia would have suffered a quick and crushing defeat, and Moscow and St. Petersburg would have been occupied soon enough. What new weapons, God forbid, 5 percent of them. Mechanical engineering is not even a fifth of the level of 1991. Destroyed entire industries and the reserve recruitment and training system. The technological level of the US military is several orders of magnitude higher than ours. We are weaker both qualitatively and quantitatively. Especially in complex types of weapons. Hopes for a mass guerrilla movement are also weak. You should know that before the Great Patriotic War the USSR prepared for partisan war very seriously. Nowadays they can’t even really organize collections of storekeepers. And will the people defend such a government as ours? It would be another matter if the Americans started genocide in the occupied territories, but this is unlikely.
    1. Fox
      Fox
      0
      7 November 2013 17: 55
      In general, I have the impression that the Russia-US confrontation is largely staged, beneficial to both those in power.

      USA - to justify the work of the military-industrial complex and the existence of an expensive toy - the US Army - by the aggressiveness and unpredictability of the Russians.

      Russia - in order to cover up the mediocrity of the authorities in domestic policy with bright foreign policy steps. Rally the okhlos out of hatred for Barmaley.
    2. +3
      7 November 2013 18: 47
      “A great “friend” of our country, American political scientist Zbigniew Brzezinski, said something like this: “I don’t see a single situation in which Russia will use its nuclear potential. It can have as many nuclear suitcases as it wants. But since 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite lies in our banks , then you’ll figure it out: is this your elite or ours?”
  83. +1
    7 November 2013 17: 52
    The article is about nothing. In general, it is not clear what the author wanted to depict. Enroll the entire population as partisans and scare America with this? What for?
  84. amp
    amp
    0
    7 November 2013 18: 16
    They will simply bomb the Russian Federation into the Stone Age, that’s all.
    No guerrilla movement will help against airstrikes.
    If strategic nuclear forces are destroyed, the Russian Federation has no chance.
    1. 0
      7 November 2013 20: 05
      Quote: amp
      They will simply bomb the Russian Federation into the Stone Age, that’s all.
      No guerrilla movement will help against airstrikes.
      If strategic nuclear forces are destroyed, the Russian Federation has no chance.

      It is still unknown who will bomb whom where.
      Yes, Russia does not have 2500 Tomahawks, but it does have 10 or 16 thousand nuclear warheads and a sufficient number of short, medium and long range missiles. The richer you are, the happier you are.
      One nuclear strike is enough on the territory of the USA and NATO countries, on their air defense and military bases surrounding Russia, and their entire army, which has never received an adequate response, will begin to drift shallowly 3 meters against the wind.
      It is unlikely that the Yankees will want to fight with a country at war not with purchased weapons, but with their own weapons, with constantly replenished ammunition. Underground factories cannot be reached with any tomahawk.
      1. amp
        amp
        0
        7 November 2013 21: 25
        If nuclear missiles are destroyed, then the Russian Federation does not have the slightest chance against the Russian Federation. This was what my comment was about.

        Underground factories are simply destroyed.

        Like everything else.
        1. +1
          8 November 2013 16: 52
          Quote: amp
          If nuclear missiles are destroyed, then the Russian Federation does not have the slightest chance against the Russian Federation. This was what my comment was about.
          Underground factories are simply destroyed.
          Like everything else.

          I was daydreaming, right now the Yankees will bomb everything in Russia, they’ll just wash their trousers, after the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
          The Yankees do not have the slightest chance of defeating Russia; they will have to deliver everything they need for the war from overseas.
          The island advantage of the Yankees in a serious war turns into a major disadvantage; a dozen atomic bombs falling in the east of South Africa will cripple the entire economy.
          Europe will also not cooperate with the Yankees, it is more expensive for itself. Iran, China, India, all of Latin America will be on Russia's side. Everyone is already fed up with the Yankee parasites.
          The population of the coasts of South Africa will panic and rush to the center, north to Canada and south to Mexico, after the first strikes.
  85. +1
    7 November 2013 18: 45
    There remains only one proven means for them - revolution and revolt in Russia. So they destroyed the Russian empire in 1917, they destroyed the USSR in 1991, and they also want to destroy the Russian Federation. And therefore I ask all our citizens to feel the thought that all these protests, speeches at the Bolotnaya and Sakharova will not lead to good.

    In 1917 Russia tried It is not revolution and rebellion that will destroy it, but counter-revolution and punitive forces.
    The Tsar was overthrown and the interventionists were brought to Russian soil not by revolutionaries, but by counter-revolutionaries.
    In 1917, Russia was lucky; the country was led by determined and courageous people who were not afraid of patriotism and the use of force against enemies of the state, such as white ribbon activists and liberals.
    May God grant Russia such a government in any crisis situation.
    1. amp
      amp
      -3
      7 November 2013 19: 15
      Well, of course, but who recognized the independence of Finland, the Baltic states of the Far East and the autonomy of Ukraine, Pushkin, and who concluded the separate Brest-Litovsk peace, when there was nothing left before victory? Counter-revolutionaries? You need to read a school history course, dear.
      1. +2
        7 November 2013 19: 54
        Quote: amp
        Well, of course, but who recognized the independence of Finland, the Baltic states of the Far East and the autonomy of Ukraine, Pushkin, and who concluded the separate Brest-Litovsk peace, when there was nothing left before victory? Counter-revolutionaries? You need to read a school history course, dear.

        Apparently you not only don’t know history, but you also don’t think well.
        The UPR was the first to conclude a separate peace with the Germans in February 1918 and at the same time allowed German troops into its territory; it didn’t give a damn about recognition of Russia.
        The Baltic states and Warsaw Voivodeship were completely occupied by the Germans in 1918.
        A separate peace was concluded due to the lack of an army in Russia, which collapsed under the influence of the decrees of the Provisional Government.
        On February 23, 1918, with great difficulty, the workers' militia stopped the German advance from the Baltic states to Petrograd. This day has been celebrated for 95 years as the birthday of the Red (Soviet) Army.
        Got it, or repeat again.
        1. amp
          amp
          -2
          7 November 2013 21: 30
          By what decree did the Provisional Government destroy the army? And who shouted the most: peace to the peoples, not the Bolsheviks by chance? Did the provisional government also come up with the slogan of Trotsky (who concluded a separate peace) of neither peace, nor war, but to disband the army? And who recognized the independence of Finland and the autonomy of Ukraine?
          Is everything clear or should I repeat it again? smile
          1. 0
            8 November 2013 17: 12
            Quote: amp
            By what decree did the Provisional Government destroy the army? And who shouted the most: peace to the peoples, not the Bolsheviks by chance? Did the provisional government also come up with the slogan of Trotsky (who concluded a separate peace) of neither peace, nor war, but to disband the army? And who recognized the independence of Finland and the autonomy of Ukraine? Is everything clear or should I repeat it again?

            The Bolsheviks were for peace and were 100 percent right. Why should they ruin the Russian people for the sake of the interests of the British and French?
            The commander-in-chief of the Russian army was not the Bolsheviks, but Kerensky; the army was not subordinate to the Bolsheviks. By October 1917, thanks to the efforts of Kerensky, there was virtually no Western Front.
            Trotsky could squeal whatever he wanted until November 7, 1917, he was a private person who did not have any power, and even then he was the Minister of Foreign Affairs.
            By October 1917, there were 100 soldiers, sailors and officers of the Russian army in Finland; the condition for obtaining formal consent to recognize the independence of Finland was their withdrawal to Russia.
            I repeat once again that the Verkhovna Rada of the UPR sold itself to the Germans and was not interested in Russia’s opinion.
    2. Fox
      Fox
      0
      8 November 2013 10: 26
      Quote: Corsair5912
      In 1917, Russia was lucky; the country was led by determined and courageous people who were not afraid of patriotism and the use of force against enemies of the state, such as white ribbon activists and liberals.

      Along the way, these same white-ribbon people and liberals were those who wanted power at any cost, pursuing a policy of “defeating their government in the war.” Countries are at war, and the government’s opposition is pure liberalism!
      1. -1
        8 November 2013 17: 17
        Quote: Liss

        Along the way, these same white-ribbon people and liberals were those who wanted power at any cost, pursuing a policy of “defeating their government in the war.” Countries are at war, and the government’s opposition is pure liberalism!

        The defeat of “his government” took place in February 1917, when Nikolashka abdicated. The Social Revolutionaries and monarchists took power. Here's a vinaigrette.
        Slogans must not only be read, but also understood.
        The first defeat of the Nikolashka government was in 1905, when it pumped up the victory over Japan, the second in 1916, when the Russian army was retreating along the entire front due to a lack of ammunition.
        1. 0
          8 November 2013 17: 38
          Quote: Corsair5912
          The defeat of “his government” took place in February 1917, when Nikolashka abdicated.

          Not everything is clear with renunciation. Even if he renounced, he could only renounce for himself; he could not renounce for his son, he had no right. Deception is all with renunciation.
          1. 0
            8 November 2013 18: 53
            Quote: Setrac

            Not everything is clear with renunciation. Even if he renounced, he could only renounce for himself; he could not renounce for his son, he had no right. Deception is all with renunciation.

            You don't know much about the laws of succession to the throne of the Russian Empire. Nikolasha renounced in favor of his brother Mikhail, and Mikhail also renounced. What does this have to do with the son?
            There was no deception; everything happened in front of authoritative witnesses.
            The entire protocol of the conversation between Nicholas II and representatives of the Duma was recorded by the head of the field office, General Naryshkin, under the title “Protocol of Abdication.”
            Guchkov and Shulgin left for Petrograd at three o’clock in the morning, having previously informed the government by telegraph the text of the three accepted documents. At 6 am, the temporary committee of the State Duma contacted Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich, who was at that time in the apartment of Prince Putyatin, informing him of the abdication of Nicholas II in his favor.
            During a meeting on the morning of March 3 with Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich, M.V. Rodzianko stated that if the former accepted the throne, a new uprising would immediately break out and that consideration of the issue of the monarchy should be transferred to the Constituent Assembly. He was supported by A.F. Kerensky. P.V. Milyukov spoke out against it, declaring that “the government alone without a monarch... is a fragile boat that can sink in the ocean of popular unrest; Under such conditions, the country may be in danger of losing all consciousness of statehood and complete anarchy before the Constituent Assembly meets. The Provisional Government alone will not survive without him,” and invited all monarchist forces to group in Moscow. However, the prospect of civil war frightened everyone present.
            After listening to representatives of the Duma, the Grand Duke demanded a private conversation with M.V. Rodzianko, during which he asked whether the Duma could guarantee his personal safety. After Rodzianko stated that he could not, the Grand Duke agreed to sign a renunciation of the throne until the convening of the Constituent Assembly.
            To compile the text of the document, V.D. Nabokov called lawyer B.E. Nolde to Prince Putyatin’s apartment on Millionnaya. The text of the act of March 3 was drawn up jointly by Nolde, Nabokov and V.V. Shulgin, with amendments by the Grand Duke himself and completely rewritten by V.D. Nabokov’s hand, after which it was signed by Mikhail Alexandrovich. At the signing, in addition to Nabokov, Nolde and Shulgin, G. E. Lvov, Rodzianko and Kerensky were present.
            The March 3rd Act was especially important, since it was the only document that legalized the power of the arbitrarily formed Provisional Government
            1. 0
              8 November 2013 22: 39
              Quote: Corsair5912
              Nikolasha renounced in favor of his brother Mikhail,

              He could have JUST abdicated, and then the next contender for the throne would be ranked.
              1. 0
                9 November 2013 08: 20
                Quote: Setrac
                Quote: Corsair5912
                Nikolasha renounced in favor of his brother Mikhail,

                He could have JUST abdicated, and then the next contender for the throne would be ranked.

                Nicholas simply wanted to renounce, for himself and for his son, but the Duma deputies believed that without a monarch the people would not recognize the new government and were forced to name a successor.
                1. 0
                  9 November 2013 12: 20
                  Quote: Corsair5912
                  Nicholas simply wanted to renounce, for himself and for his son, but the Duma deputies believed that without a monarch the people would not recognize the new government and were forced to name a successor.

                  He could want anything, but he could only renounce for himself.
  86. +1
    7 November 2013 18: 45
    That's not why. It is much easier and more effective to buy up the “top”.
    1. +2
      7 November 2013 20: 18
      Quote: Stinger
      That's not why. It is much easier and more effective to buy up the “top”.

      The top people were bought up 30 years ago, hence all the problems in Russia.
      1. Altair
        0
        7 November 2013 20: 29
        Quote: Corsair5912
        The top was bought 30 years ago, hence all the problems in Russia.

        Every nation deserves its rulers. And every people deserves the state that it created.
  87. +1
    7 November 2013 18: 52
    I smiled at the picture with the sheriff cat and the Russian dog laughing
  88. SV
    SV
    +1
    7 November 2013 20: 56
    On some website I read NATO analytics, a scenario of an attack by the bloc on the Russian Federation was played out. There was a lot there, but the main thing: if operations begin according to the Iraqi/Libyan scenario, NATO will lose about 75-80% of its air force and other air attack assets, which is unacceptable for them (ours objected that they would not shoot down more than 65-70)
    1. Altair
      +1
      7 November 2013 21: 01
      Quote: SV
      On some site read NATO analyst, the scenario of an attack by the bloc on the Russian Federation was played out.

      Don't trust the analyteeruh ...
  89. +1
    7 November 2013 21: 00
    Yes, they may lose in battle! But will we win??? I myself am ready to tear my shirt and die for my homeland!!! But we can't die. Let them fight with “others” and die themselves. Enough is enough for the Russian people to pay with their lives for “world peace.”
    I WAS BORN IN THE SOVIET UNION!!! I AM MADE IN THE USSR!!!
  90. amp
    amp
    0
    7 November 2013 21: 45
    2) War with Russia is not a war with Japan, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq. Where the forces of the Americans and their opponents were 30: 1 approximately.

    What nonsense, there was no such ratio in favor of the United States in any of the above wars.

    How did the management of a serious site even decide to publish such nonsense?
    1. Altair
      0
      7 November 2013 22: 09
      Quote: amp
      How did the management of a serious site even decide to publish such nonsense?

      I will whisper in your ear, but you don’t tell anyone: Jews are to blame.
  91. maklaut007
    +3
    7 November 2013 22: 46
    If America starts a war with Russia, then it will unwittingly help Russia get rid of the crap sitting in power, economy, culture and crap on the country. Having received a weapon in your hands or taken it out of battle, the death sentence of the entire libertus movement and the bulk of the anus culture will be signed. Today's ban on short-barreled guns is from the same opera. There will be a sufficient number of VOROSHILOV SHOOTERS to improve the economic and political life of Russia. Because under tsarism, the Tsar implemented JUSTICE above the laws. Well, now we are our own kings, and the laws do not protect us.
  92. +5
    7 November 2013 23: 35
    Quote: Abra Kadabra
    American gingerbread ... In general, they are already staring at unhappy America .. Some schizophrenic topics about nothing .. One might think now something like the "Cuban missile crisis", two powers are on the brink of war and there is a struggle for ideology all over the world. Meanwhile, the policy of dividing society, aimed at distracting from real problems and not interfering with stealing, is gaining momentum .. Manezhka, Biryulyovo, this is not the first episode similar to what happened in the metro .. The Internet is full of anger and hatred, the desire to fight with the "s" and "black asses", the "black asses", in turn, also seem to answer .. But the majority of the people are people sane and neither with fascist zigs, nor with a portrait of Stalin will go build a "bright future" .. But still, this majority does not realize the importance and meaning of such a concept as "civic duty", the importance of being able to control power .. Until this majority realizes, until there is a separation of powers in Russia, as is practiced in civilization countries with a high standard of living, until then there will be neither development nor a high standard of living

    Dear, I’ll tell you a big secret, you are our civilized.... there was, is and will be a confrontation... and now the intensity is no less than during the Caribbean crisis... the Americans, with their democracy and claims to the title of super power, got the floor world, including our allies. Who is asking them to install missile systems, radars and build bases near our borders? M...this is confrontation in its most acute form...the only sharper thing is open military action...the story with Syria, What do you think this is? And the vaunted so-called civilization... the question is, how old is American history? Is it 250 years? And what did this civilization give birth to? tampons, diapers and chewing gum?... and now look at the history of Rus'... according to the official data is 2500 years old!...and according to unofficial estimates it’s about 25000 years old!...You know, dear, when the land on which Russia stands was called Gardarika (which means country of cities), in Europe civilized people like you ran after mammoths and lived in caves... and there’s nothing to say about America as a country... so, you civilized people, read history, not comics about Batman.
    1. 0
      8 November 2013 04: 46
      Quote: NEXUS
      You know, dear, when the land on which Rus' stands was called Gardarik

      I would like to add - and in Byzantium, which supposedly gave us religion, there were only 5 (five) cities.
  93. phantom359
    -2
    8 November 2013 00: 24
    The characters in the picture need to be changed. The Jackal is more drawn to the Americans.
  94. 0
    8 November 2013 01: 02
    crazy article.
    newspaper "Novoebunovsky gudok" 1972 offset printing 500 copies.
  95. moskal68
    0
    8 November 2013 01: 36
    I'll tell you guys this. Of course, you need to protect your home and family. But for example, I don’t want to defend the government at all.
  96. moskal68
    0
    8 November 2013 01: 40
    And who, for example, will sit in the Kremlin - I don’t care. I guess I'm not a patriot.)))
  97. 0
    8 November 2013 02: 35
    They have already tried to rule the Far East during times of turmoil. During the revolution, people were killed, robbed and escaped. Yes, not only the Americans, England, Japan, the Czechs... They should also be asked for this invasion and lawlessness.
  98. 0
    8 November 2013 03: 49
    cheers-patriotism is probably not bad (to some extent even necessary) But let's proceed from reality. The point is not in waging a war of attrition, not in the balance of forces and other factors listed in the article. In this particular non-nuclear version of a war between continents, the problem of concentration the number of troops will not be the largest. In reality, America's unsinkable aircraft carrier was not Japan, but Europe. In Europe there is only one military-serious nation that knows how to fight - the Germans. However, the reunification of Germany brought such a bouquet of problems that the Germans would not cope with for many more decades, and any war for them could lead to a split and destruction of the state as such. Change in national composition of the population in European countries and its unpredictable behavior in the event of war can lead to unpredictable consequences for the governments and the population of these countries. Conducting a war on your own (even with the help of any riffraff such as the Balts and Poles) will not work, either economically or physically (the mere factor of delivering replenishment of manpower and equipment and other things negates the whole point of the war). In addition, the option of conducting a retaliatory landing operation on one’s own territory is looming ( nothing is impossible if people get down to business). And starting a nuclear war is simply suicide.
    Therefore, in terms of the most likely enemy, China comes first. The extreme need for resources and an increase in living territory, as well as the continental and contiguous location of our states, which makes it easier to wage war, are the fundamental factors for Chinese aggression. The actual inability of the Eastern Military District to provide serious resistance at the present time time (unlike the times of the USSR, when there were large groupings of troops in the Western Military District and the Far Eastern Military District, I know firsthand that I served in the Far Eastern Military District for 7 years in the 1st VA near Ussuriysk), as well as the actual isolation of this region (it is enough to cut the Trans-Siberian Railway) can play a role a serious role and become one of the fundamental factors in the outbreak of war in the Far East with absolutely unpredictable consequences and results. Then it will be a war of attrition. with huge losses
    1. Fox
      Fox
      0
      8 November 2013 11: 11
      Quote: basmach
      In this particular non-nuclear version of the war between continents

      Do you think that Russia is a continent? If not, who are its continental allies in the war? Kazakhstan, Belarus, Armenia, Azerbaijan? Powerful...

      Quote: basmach
      However, the reunification of Germany brought such a bouquet of problems that the Germans would not cope with for many more decades, and any war for them could lead to a split and destruction of the state as such.
      OT-ETA, we brought into their stable a Trojan horse, which was the GDR. After all, Gorbachev foresaw, he shit in the imperialist soup.

      Quote: basmach
      Change in national composition of the population in European countries and its unpredictable behavior in the event of war can lead to unpredictable consequences for the governments and the population of these countries.
      Our allies are the Muslim partisans of Europe?

      Quote: basmach
      Carrying out a war on your own (even with the help of any riffraff such as the Balts and Poles) will not work, either economically or physically...(

      And if you just use such a simple forum-computer operation - put us in “IGNOR” and “ask” your friends for the same? How long will our “dialogue with ourselves” last? I’m afraid that a retaliatory “landing operation to leave the country for food” will soon begin.

      Damn, China is also inappropriate here...
  99. +1
    8 November 2013 09: 47
    Quote from the article:
    We'll have to tighten our belts a lot and for a long time, and the "load-200 and load-300" will return home.

    But here I don’t agree! How many corpses of “supermans” did she suddenly send to the Reich?... They “buried” them all...
    I already wrote in a comment on a similar topic - we don’t need such “humus”!
  100. 0
    8 November 2013 11: 39
    The problem of the creeping occupation of Russia by foreigners poses a greater threat than the Russian rebellion.

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