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Why America can not take Russia by force?

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Why America can not take Russia by force?



I especially asked myself this question especially after reading the article "The rocket blitzkrieg is being postponed for the time being." Many of our citizens are probably afraid that our SNF Americans will, so to speak, disarm with a lightning strike. So, what is next?

For example, today at 07.11.2013, in the morning at 9: 00, the American armed forces will deliver a preemptive strike on our strategic nuclear forces with cruise missiles with non-nuclear warheads, and may, as a result, our mine and mobile missiles be destroyed. But this does not mean that the war is lost and that we must bow our heads before the enemy? It will only get worse. I will explain:

1) Americans have never had an equal or even strong enemy in comparison with them.

2) War with Russia is not a war with Japan, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq. Where the forces of the Americans and their opponents were 30: 1 approximately.

3) America has no experience in waging a continental war and a war of attrition.

4) Nothing rallies our people like an external threat.

The case will have to have not with the old Soviet, not modernized technology, but quite serious weaponry. And I want to ask myself this question: can their people morally endure such a war. We'll have to tighten our belts and for a long time, and "cargo-200 and cargo-300" will return home. Not only the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will fight with the Americans and their henchmen, all the people will stand up to defend the Fatherland. Will develop a powerful partisan movement.

There remains only one proven means for them - revolution and revolt in Russia. So they destroyed the Russian empire in 1917, they destroyed the USSR in 1991, and they also want to destroy the Russian Federation. And therefore I ask all our citizens to feel the thought that all these protests, speeches at the Bolotnaya and Sakharova will not lead to good.

"God forbid seeing Russian revolt, senseless and merciless!" - exclaimed the lips of his hero A.S. Pushkin almost two hundred years ago.
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  1. a52333
    a52333 7 November 2013 08: 57 New
    90
    Precisely, exactly.
    Where the forces of the Americans and their opponents were 30: 1 approximately.
    And with other ratios and teeth can be obtained.
    Preventive war against Russia - suicide due to fear of death. Bismarck.

    1. mirag2
      mirag2 7 November 2013 09: 11 New
      +8
      It is good that no one thought of writing that because we can eat vodka with big-eyed glasses.
      That would be stupid cheers-patriotism.
      1. INTER
        INTER 7 November 2013 10: 04 New
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        Quote: mirag2
        that we can eat vodka with big-eyed glasses.

        And this thing needs to be put in order, at the state level to promote a healthy lifestyle, put pressure on tobacco and alcohol in the country and fight extremely hard against drug trafficking, manufacture and distribution, this is also a weapon of mass destruction that the cat has been using against us for a long time and successfully using preventive methods.
        1. chief.matros
          chief.matros 7 November 2013 13: 57 New
          +9
          And this business needs to be put in order, at the state level to promote a healthy lifestyle, put pressure on tobacco and alcohol in the country and fight extremely hard against drug trafficking
          Ha, before the start of the "big" construction in Sochi, there were several free stadiums where everyone could attend, and there were quite a few of them, now they have been demolished, and in their place are either paid stadiums, or generally shopping centers. I remember how VVP together with the LADIES assured our people that during the period of their rule in Russia 400 stadiums will be built, let them show at least 200 operating ones.
          1. Evgenij.
            Evgenij. 10 November 2013 14: 23 New
            0
            I know at least 10 and everything from 5 minutes to hour accessibility from my house
        2. Evgenij.
          Evgenij. 10 November 2013 14: 21 New
          0
          the consumption of alcohol, vtch vodka beer, etc. is reduced every year
      2. APES
        APES 7 November 2013 10: 53 New
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        Quote: mirag2
        that we can eat vodka with big glasses


        In the English encyclopedia about vodka it is written that 1 liter is a lethal dose, below the link and small handwriting (except for Russian)
        1. Silkway0026
          Silkway0026 7 November 2013 11: 35 New
          +4
          lying, I suppose. Give a link
        2. Mhpv
          Mhpv 7 November 2013 13: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: APES
          link below and in small handwriting (except for Russian)

          "On the thief and the hat is on fire"
          http://www.russlav.ru/alkogolizm/degradaciya-lichnosti.html
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      4. ybrcfy27
        ybrcfy27 7 November 2013 13: 12 New
        16
        hmm ... about vodka, you are right, and after all Russians were never drunks, they loved to drink, but to cut wires under voltage of thousands of volts with metal hacks to hand over to metal and get drunk on vodka, this wasn’t
        1. eagle11
          eagle11 7 November 2013 13: 44 New
          +7
          Here you are mistaken, in my practice it was when a high-voltage cable was dug up and pulled by a tractor, disconnecting a separate radio engineering company, and the cables on working equipment were chopped and dragged with an ax, native 1998 ...
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          2. Passer
            Passer 8 November 2013 23: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: eagle11
            Here you are mistaken, in my practice it was when a high-voltage cable was dug up and pulled by a tractor, disconnecting a separate radio engineering company, and the cables on working equipment were chopped and dragged with an ax, native 1998 ...

            Was this by chance not near Astrakhan, in the Ashuluk region?
            I recall a similar case.
        2. Mhpv
          Mhpv 8 November 2013 10: 15 New
          -2
          Quote: ybrcfy27
          because Russians were never drunks

          http://alkogolunet.ru/blog/istorija_alkogolja_v_rossii/2012-02-09-148
      5. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 8 November 2013 12: 50 New
        +2
        Why America can not take Russia by force?


        But CAN IT TAKE A STRONG MOBBLE - a sparrow?

        (answer) = women of the wrong caliber!
    2. user
      user 7 November 2013 09: 14 New
      15
      Yes, We are too tough for Americans, well, if only in the year 91 they do not merge us.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 7 November 2013 09: 51 New
        11
        Quote: user
        unless in the year 91 we are merged.

        unih then maybe there was such a thought ... but now they see what processes are happening in Russia .. and they are getting cold ... they are already afraid of Putin’s departure and the nationalists coming to power .. and as a result, uncontrollable processes in the world ..so not everything is so bad ........
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 7 November 2013 10: 22 New
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        Quote: user
        We are too tough for Americans

        They won't take it by force, but by internal decomposition, especially young people, they will. So it's high time to define the ideology and take decisive action. Otherwise, there will be no reserves left for waging a "continental war" - they will surrender themselves!
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 7 November 2013 10: 27 New
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          Quote: Egoza
          They won't take it by force, but by internal decomposition, especially young people, they will. So it's high time to define the ideology and take decisive action. Otherwise, there will be no reserves left for waging a "continental war" - they will surrender themselves!

          What about the state propaganda machine?

          Show the youth the advantage of "to be Russian"and she will wipe her feet on the West ...
          1. APES
            APES 7 November 2013 11: 20 New
            +8
            Quote: Corsair
            What about the state propaganda machine?


            for serving narrow family corporate interests

            Quote: Corsair
            Show the youth the edge


            Now they show that being a star of HOUSE_2 is more honorable than a mother

            Quote: Corsair
            and she will wipe her feet


            I personally "don't want to put my feet on my chest"
            1. saha471
              saha471 7 November 2013 12: 13 New
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              Quote: APES
              I personally "don't want to put my feet on my chest"

              If the situation turns out, then put it. And not just on the chest. Pacifists, Christmas trees, sticks ....
              1. APES
                APES 7 November 2013 12: 36 New
                +3
                Quote: saha471
                If the situation arises


                Tsoi’s work is probably not familiar to you

                Quote: saha471
                Pacifists, stick-trees


                I'm not a pacifist
            2. sasska
              sasska 12 November 2013 08: 38 New
              +1
              "Vorobyaninov never held out his hands! - Oh, you didn't hold out your hands? - Didn't. - So stretch your legs, old ... (censored)! Kisa, Ostap."

              just a quote.
          2. Evgenij.
            Evgenij. 10 November 2013 14: 25 New
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            What about the state propaganda machine?
            at 91 ended
        2. vlad.svargin
          vlad.svargin 7 November 2013 11: 18 New
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          Egoza
          They won’t take it by force, but by internal decomposition, especially by the youth, it’s completely.

          As for youth, I do not agree with you. Now a new generation of young people has come (These are already young people of not zero years) The fate of Russia is not alien to them.
          And it is unlikely that they will now be able to "lure" them with American gingerbread. Judging by the friends of my sons, it is a great pride for them to be considered Russian. And the last Russian march in Russia causes pride for them (especially in Moscow):
          But the strongest in the Russian march is the mass participation of youth. Young people make up the vast majority of march participants, neither the left nor the liberals have this. This is the radical difference between Lublino and Bolotnaya. The Russian movement, gaining strength today, with all its disunity, is a youth movement. (2013-11-06 Vitaliy Sednev.
          Russian march without Navalny)
          1. APES
            APES 7 November 2013 11: 25 New
            +7
            Quote: vlad.svargin
            it is unlikely that they will now be "lured" with American gingerbread


            Lured by other gingerbread cookies, and their noble impulse is usually used by unscrupulous people - you have to be very careful

            Quote: vlad.svargin
            causes pride for them

            And I felt sad when I watched the video from 04.07.2013 - about beating in a subway car, on Udelnaya in St. Petersburg
            1. Abracadabra
              Abracadabra 7 November 2013 13: 07 New
              +2
              American gingerbread ... In general, they are already staring at unhappy America .. Some schizophrenic topics about nothing .. One might think now something like the "Cuban missile crisis", two powers are on the brink of war and there is a struggle for ideology all over the world. Meanwhile, the policy of dividing society, aimed at distracting from real problems and not interfering with stealing, is gaining momentum .. Manezhka, Biryulyovo, this is not the first episode similar to what happened in the metro .. The Internet is full of anger and hatred, the desire to fight with the "s" and "black asses", the "black asses", in turn, also seem to answer .. But the majority of the people are people sane and neither with fascist zigs, nor with a portrait of Stalin will go build a "bright future" .. But still, this majority does not realize the importance and meaning of such a concept as "civic duty", the importance of being able to control power .. Until this majority realizes, until there is a separation of powers in Russia, as is practiced in civilization countries with a high standard of living, until then there will be neither development nor a high standard of living
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 7 November 2013 14: 02 New
                +5
                Quote: Abra Kadabra
                nor will they go to build a "bright future" with a portrait of Stalin.

                If such a Stalin appeared, I would go. But while there is no prophet in his Fatherland ...
                Quote: Abra Kadabra
                ... But still, this majority does not realize the importance and significance of such a concept as "civic duty", the importance of being able to control power .. Until this majority realizes, until there is a separation of powers in Russia, as is practiced in civilized countries with a high standard of living

                What are you talking about? The civic duty, as you see it, is an invention of the liberals, you really cannot influence the government. Read the political technologies. All of these your European values ​​rest on your word of honor and on our cheap resources.
              2. Ascetic
                Ascetic 7 November 2013 15: 33 New
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                Quote: Abra Kadabra
                . Until this majority understands, until Russia there will be a separation of powers, as is practiced in civilized countries with a high standard of living, until neither development nor a high standard of living will be


                A high standard of living does not depend on the separation of powers. The SA also has a high standard of living, and recently the economies of monarchies have been recognized as the most stable. And in the so-called "civilized" countries, the top of all TNCs and TNBs (transnational banks) are concentrated, which pay social rent to civilized residents so that they do not rage and give them the opportunity to enslave countries that are not included in the cohort of the chosen ones with debts on the basis of loan interest, dictate their conditions to them and pump out of them, profits are many times greater than they invest in the development of these countries, thereby realizing predatory neocolonial policy.The progressive integration of the market leads to the subordination of all social and human activity to its laws. All peoples of the world become hostages of commodity production, and are exploited by the financial oligarchy. Russia is not included in the cohort of the elected rather the opposite, and the separation of powers or the so-called democracy enables the global oligarchy, which is also heterogeneous on a compromise and parity basis, that is civilized methods pump out our resources for the sake of their interests and not the interests of the state of Russia. We did not stand in line for civilization in conditions of liberal free capitalism and there will be no standard of living as civilized people when the separation of powers was wrong, everyone was convinced of this in the mid 90's. most of them just began to realize this, no matter how they tried to convince him of the opposite of another liberal ABRA-CADADABRA
              3. yur
                yur 7 November 2013 21: 18 New
                +6
                "how it is practiced in civilized countries." You know Abra-Kadabra, I'm already sick of the phrase "civilized countries". These are the countries where shopping centers open in churches, those where same-sex marriages are allowed, those where priests can marry a man with a man, those where a child can be taken from the family because the neighbors said that the child does not have an ultra-modern computer ?! So, God forbid me from such a "civilization".
        3. air wolf
          air wolf 7 November 2013 13: 15 New
          +2
          They won’t take us by force, but the paid Wahhabism can really be well suited .. We need to do something!
          1. chief.matros
            chief.matros 7 November 2013 14: 04 New
            +1
            more often "Russian marches"
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 7 November 2013 15: 32 New
              0
              Quote: chief.matros
              more often "Russian marches"
        4. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 7 November 2013 13: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: Egoza
          So it’s high time to determine the ideology and take decisive measures.

          Now it’s just the time to appeal to patriotism, a sense of duty to the motherland, responsibility for the fate of future generations, the loot and property of the former empire of the USSR that have already been divided, now we need to think about how to protect all this with the hands and lives of those who have been robbed. bully
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 7 November 2013 15: 33 New
            -10 qualifying.
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            Now it’s just the time to appeal to patriotism, a sense of duty to the motherland, responsibility for the fate of future generations, the loot and property of the former empire of the USSR that have already been divided, now we need to think about how to protect all this with the hands and lives of those who have been robbed.
            1. Evgenij.
              Evgenij. 10 November 2013 14: 27 New
              0
              dem is not relevant already
            2. Horst78
              Horst78 13 November 2013 20: 55 New
              0
              ? did not understand why this picture? What year statistics?
        5. lelikas
          lelikas 7 November 2013 15: 00 New
          10
          Quote: Egoza
          They won't take it by force, but by internal decomposition, especially young people, they will. So it's high time to define the ideology and take decisive action. Otherwise, there will be no reserves left for waging a "continental war" - they will surrender themselves!


          I’ve already written somewhere - not so long ago standing not on the porch of the Togo center I heard a phrase from a kid 6-7 years old -
          -Dad, look, the worst word ..
          I looked around for a three-letter word, I didn’t find it, dad did too, then he specified
          -What word, son?
          The boy’s answer is MacDonalds ....
          So that is still not lost.
        6. edge
          edge 7 November 2013 16: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: Egoza
          By force - they won’t take it, but by internal decomposition, especially youth - it’s

          I think Putin is also not done with a finger, he knows everything perfectly, knows what to do in a similar situation ...... the only thing that may not be enough is time, as in 41 .....
          1. SV
            SV 7 November 2013 19: 41 New
            0
            I agree to all 100. Man, most of his life he served in foreign intelligence ...
            I do not think that naive boys and girls are working in this area
        7. whitewolf
          whitewolf 9 November 2013 22: 50 New
          +3
          about youth - this is an old boring song, our youth is normal, smart and the most patriotic in the world, they will tear any enemy into foot worms !!!
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        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 7 November 2013 22: 51 New
          -4
          Quote: Heccrbq .2
          the day before yesterday, by many dearly beloved on this site, the king of all Russia introduced fines for the sale of anonymous SIM cards to cellular
        2. Setrac
          Setrac 8 November 2013 02: 42 New
          +2
          Quote: Heccrbq .2
          The question of backfill, the day before yesterday, by many the dearly beloved tsar of all Russia on this website, introduced fines for the sale of impersonal SIM cards to cell phones, why would this be?

          What's the problem?
    3. Migari
      Migari 7 November 2013 11: 19 New
      12
      They can’t cope with all of Kodla in Afghanistan, because a guerrilla war can be said there, then pindssy can only be targeted, and missiles, from far away, from stealth, and in Russia you can run into not only guerrilla but also hand-to-hand combat.
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 7 November 2013 19: 29 New
        +1
        Quote: Migari
        They can’t cope with all the code in Afghanistan, t

        And they should cope with someone there, then sow and cherish the poppy themselves and then evaporate the gerych, they’ve already set everything up there, now everything will happen there automatically and heroin will flow in the river where it is needed and the army will no longer need to be kept there.
    4. Luger
      Luger 7 November 2013 12: 23 New
      -10 qualifying.
      I’m even afraid to imagine if this starts. Of course, the armed forces will still be combat-ready ... for some time, but what our people will be annealed can only be imagined in a nightmare, and this is not taken from the air, but from real life and the state to which our society has reached.
      1. Looting, robbery, violence, murder will begin (the authorities will not when they engage in public order, you know the war);
      2. Practically no desire to defend the Motherland (with the existing psychology: "my house is on the edge");
      3. In case of difficulties during military service due to military operations and, as a result, the occurrence of irreplaceable military losses, mass desertion of ordinary soldiers, sergeants (this is not for you to play Call of Duty with preservation);
      4. Massive cooperation of the population in the occupied territories with aggressors;
      5. Betrayal and the transition to the side of the enemy (only the opposition is worth what);

      It’s good if it’s not so, and even better if there’s no conflict at all, but something seems to me that I’m right ...
      1. pahom54
        pahom54 7 November 2013 14: 25 New
        +7
        Luger answer
        After reading your comment, from hopelessness you can shoot yourself and hang yourself ...
        The thing is that all 5 points mentioned by you were involved in the Great Patriotic War. There were looters, and policemen, and cooperation with the Nazis, and desertion ...
        BUT!!! How did that end? Our VICTORY!
        1. Luger
          Luger 7 November 2013 14: 30 New
          -5
          It’s all so, but in the first months of the war almost before the New Year there was what I wrote, but then the people were different, not sophisticated, not spoiled, down to earth, less selfish. Now in the era of frantic consumption, and the lack of the ability to live in not comfortable conditions, people are no longer the same.
          And given that you have a feeling of hopelessness, then, in principle, you understand that I am right, because if you were different, you would not have this feeling.
          1. Evgenij.
            Evgenij. 10 November 2013 14: 32 New
            0
            I will not do this, and many who will not, I am a representative of spoiled youth 0x.

            Those who respect themselves will not, and the rest are a minority
          2. ssergn
            ssergn 11 November 2013 09: 06 New
            0
            In general, wartime laws apply in wartime and will be put to the wall without hesitation for the first points. And immediately consciousness wakes up, not everyone, of course. But most certainly. Yes, and for normal people do not need such measures
      2. SV
        SV 7 November 2013 19: 49 New
        0
        Yes, do you have a good opinion about our people or have seen enough of American blockbusters where Americans rally near their flag, and in Russia exactly what is written (Luger) above ...
      3. whitewolf
        whitewolf 9 November 2013 22: 57 New
        0
        everyone thinks to the extent of his depravity.
      4. LENINGRADE
        LENINGRADE 10 November 2013 00: 37 New
        -1
        you are not a luger you are sorry luzer !!!!
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      1. slaventi
        slaventi 7 November 2013 13: 15 New
        +1
        CLASS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 7 November 2013 14: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        at this point there is still a possible conflict not considered

        And I have not seen this statue in such a pose. good
      3. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 7 November 2013 19: 37 New
        +1
        It was already on the site and it’s not very nice to look at it, yet it’s not a porn site, you would like to choose more decent pictures, because children can also see what adult uncles do here.
    6. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 7 November 2013 13: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: a52333
      Preventive war against Russia - suicide due to fear of death. Bismarck.


      The whole world and Russia in the first place will be able to live peacefully only when the last impudent Saxon abomination disappears from the face of the earth.
    7. knn54
      knn54 7 November 2013 14: 53 New
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      Why can't America take Russia by force?
      And who could or could? It is impossible to defeat Russia in an open war.
      King of Prussia Frederick the Great said: “every enemy army that dares to penetrate to Smolensk and beyond will certainly find a grave in the Russian steppes.”
      Von Clausewitz believed that Russia will always remain invincible, and any army, even the most perfect, will dissolve, like dust, in its fateful and boundless expanses.
      The famous German tank builder Ferdinand Porsche told Paulus: "From history, we know that Russia is always not ready for war, but in some strange way it turns out to be the winner."
      The famous German philosopher of the twentieth century, Martin Heidegger, who shared the ideas of National Socialism, spoke about Russia in 1943: “We (Germans) will never defeat the Russians until we realize their metaphysical secret. And the secret is that they are the land of the future. Russians are the secret land of the future, not understood by themselves, by anyone else ... The history of the land of the future is contained in the essence of Russianness that has not yet been liberated for itself. ”
      To defeat us, you need to be deprived of faith.
      We are invincible as long as we have faith that we are invincible!
    8. starshina78
      starshina78 7 November 2013 19: 35 New
      +4
      According to the Americans themselves, when coffins begin to go in a war with someone, they try to transfer this war to another direction, which implies bribing people from the government of the opposing side, carpet bombing, and even if that side has poor air defense. And the warriors are not so hot. I have a guy who served in the peacekeeping forces and was in Yugoslavia, and he told how they serve. Not a service, but a paradise. The Americans, they are also a coddled nation, they are used to taking showers five times a day, eating tightly and correctly, moving around everywhere by car, don’t want to walk on foot, and much more. And now we will present them somewhere near Krasnoyarsk in the winter, everything, to them a khan. As my friend, who worked on the construction of pipelines in Siberia for a long time, said that the Americans came to them to take over the experience of construction in permafrost, and they see our bulldozer on the basis of C-100, frost under 50, and the bulldozer rides with open doors, so they the jaws fell to the ground, and squealed that they supposedly had to apply punishment for criminals - instead of the death penalty, send a Russian bulldozer to work in Siberia! Wimps they are Americans!
    9. bif
      bif 7 November 2013 21: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: a52333
      Americans have never had an equal or even strong enemy compared to them.

      I would paraphrase ... "Americans never HAVE equal or stronger .."
      After NATO’s aggression on Serbia 1999, one American general visited the military museum in Belgrade.

      General went to one of the museum’s coats, a young retired Serbian officer, and asked a question:
      `` Well, was it difficult to fight with the greatest and most powerful force of the world? ''

      The officer replied:
      “I don’t know, we have never fought against the Russians.”
    10. Dovmont
      Dovmont 10 November 2013 19: 44 New
      +2
      American military doctrine is based on three Bs: Destruction of an Unarmed enemy with impunity at a Safe Distance!
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 7 November 2013 08: 57 New
    21
    The article is more like a comment. request
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 7 November 2013 08: 59 New
      +2
      I reread once again and can not digest ...
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 7 November 2013 09: 52 New
        +4
        Quote: Gleb
        I can’t digest ...

        .... I probably drank a lot in the evening drinks
        1. Aryan
          Aryan 7 November 2013 11: 30 New
          10
          so let's continue! drinks
        2. Hleb
          Hleb 7 November 2013 12: 31 New
          +9
          I really used two days. Five in one at the cemetery, I visited my sixth friends. But I never lose my head. It's not about alcohol
      2. chief.matros
        chief.matros 7 November 2013 14: 17 New
        +3
        without half a liter you can’t see what you’re talking about
  3. makarov
    makarov 7 November 2013 09: 01 New
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    I want to add:
    America has never fought on its own territory with an equivalent adversary. And he has no such experience. Is that Hollywood.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 7 November 2013 09: 14 New
      14
      What are you! When 3000 people died in Harbor, it was such a tragedy for them!
      I mean, they did not face serious losses.
      Vietnam had enough for them to immediately have the movement of hippo-pacifists.
      So that any war fraught with a large number of victims on their part is a taboo for them.
      1. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 7 November 2013 11: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: mirag2
        What are you! When 3000 people died in Harbor, it was such a tragedy for them!
        I mean, they did not face serious losses.
        Vietnam had enough for them to immediately have the movement of hippo-pacifists.
        So that any war fraught with a large number of victims on their part is a taboo for them.

        They live normally, so why do they need extra problems?
      2. old rocket man
        old rocket man 7 November 2013 11: 54 New
        +8
        Quote: mirag2
        Vietnam had enough for them to immediately have the movement of hippo-pacifists.

        There were not only hippies, they would have dealt with hippies, almost the entire middle class and, in part, the army, opposed the war hi
    2. Semurg
      Semurg 7 November 2013 09: 28 New
      +5
      Quote: makarov
      I want to add:
      America has never fought on its own territory with an equivalent adversary. And he has no such experience. Is that Hollywood.

      On their territory they fought twice with an equal enemy, but for a long time. This is the struggle for independence from England and the civil war of the north and south.
      1. vlad.svargin
        vlad.svargin 7 November 2013 11: 23 New
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        Semurg
        On their territory they fought twice with an equal enemy, but for a long time. This is the struggle for independence from England and the civil war of the north and south.

        And then with the help of Russian ships blocking the south of America from the delivery of aid from the UK.
        1. alone
          alone 7 November 2013 22: 08 New
          +4
          let them not fight openly. It’s disadvantageous for them. An open war between the USA and Russia means the end of the world. Who needs such a war. But there will be tricks
  4. major071
    major071 7 November 2013 09: 03 New
    34
    I’ll go dig a machine gun just in case.
    The author did not take into account the fact that when modeling this described situation, not all ICBMs will be destroyed, because ours, too, do not bast their cabbage soup and the United States is waiting for a retaliatory strike. But in the near future, such a scenario is impossible. But on land (here I agree with the author) the United States will not be able to wage war with Russia. Because they will take care of their ass, and we will defend our homeland, and this is our holy duty. Therefore, the United States and seeks to ruin Russia from the inside, applying all the ways.
    1. andruha70
      andruha70 7 November 2013 12: 20 New
      +7
      I’ll go dig a machine gun just in case.
      laughing laughing laughing come on, don’t be modest ... and the t-34 from the barn covered with hay, too - roll out. wassat
      1. major071
        major071 7 November 2013 12: 56 New
        11
        That's what, my friend, no - that is not. repeat But deflate the anti-tank gun from the garage. soldier
      2. novobranets
        novobranets 7 November 2013 15: 40 New
        +8
        Quote: andruha70
        I’ll go dig a machine gun just in case.

        -Vanka, why are you, you are watering the flowerbed with engine oil, the flowers will fade. - Fuck on them, if only the machine gun did not rust. laughing
    2. T-100
      7 November 2013 12: 24 New
      +4
      I’ll go dig a machine gun just in case.
      The author did not take into account the fact that when modeling this described situation, not all ICBMs will be destroyed, because ours, too, do not bast their cabbage soup and the United States is waiting for a retaliatory strike. But in the near future, such a scenario is impossible. But on land (here I agree with the author) the United States will not be able to wage war with Russia. Because they will take care of their ass, and we will defend our homeland, and this is our holy duty. Therefore, the United States and seeks to ruin Russia from the inside, applying all the ways.


      I modeled in my own way that if, hypothetically, they destroyed all ICBMs, then what next? They won’t use nuclear weapons, why spoil such a tidbit, and then current operations on the ground, and here they will be too tough.
    3. chief.matros
      chief.matros 7 November 2013 14: 21 New
      +4
      that's for sure, because we have a holy soul and homeland, and they have all the holiness in the ass
  5. rugor
    rugor 7 November 2013 09: 06 New
    26
    Suppose today 07.11.2013, in 9: 00 in the morning, the American armed forces will deliver a preventive strike on our strategic nuclear forces


    Carried, already 9.06
    1. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 7 November 2013 09: 34 New
      +6
      Quote: rugor
      Carried, already 9.06

      09: 34 - it seems nothing will happen! drinks

      Let the article be like a comment, as one of the members of the forum expressed it, but T 100, just expressed his opinion on this subject =))

      And I got his mini-article - LIKED))

      Here you can add a lot of your own! So to say, supplement this article with facts and judgments!
  6. tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 7 November 2013 09: 07 New
    +7
    I will say this: If even all ground-based strategic nuclear forces are destroyed (which is unrealistic), then there are submarines for which only one order will remain ..... We must remember that the strategic nuclear forces are not the only things we have! A lot of intimidating secrecy, more than gifts under the tree. So not everything is as simple as they are in the USA. And still what, we must remember that not only we live in Russia, but also other creatures whom we sheltered! Check out some interesting material: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPR0AV4kDSc
    1. alexng
      alexng 7 November 2013 11: 19 New
      0
      An interesting reference. A little funny information, but more puzzled than surprised.
    2. Vladimir73
      Vladimir73 7 November 2013 12: 39 New
      +1
      giggle laughing mean absolutely secret ?! laughing
  7. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 7 November 2013 09: 09 New
    18
    All that remains for them is only one proven means - the revolution and rebellion in Russia.- why do the Novodvodsky, bulk and others like them ...
    This is from a little:... For example, I do not care at all how many missiles democratic America will launch on undemocratic Iraq. For me, the more the better. Just as I am completely not terrified of the trouble that happened with Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But look, what kind of candy came from Japan. Just snickers. Seven in Tokyo, a liberal parliament is available. The game was worth the candle. recourse She is the toad ...
    1. volkodav
      volkodav 7 November 2013 12: 16 New
      +8
      is she not dead yet?
    2. saha471
      saha471 7 November 2013 12: 22 New
      13
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      She is the toad ...

      Oh! Baba Leroux needs to be shown and quoted more often. To strengthen the gag reflex against liberals fool . So that with the word LIBERAL, acne in the body goes and fists itch! angry
    3. slaventi
      slaventi 7 November 2013 13: 18 New
      +9
      The ugly face of Russian liberalism.
    4. Proud.
      Proud. 7 November 2013 14: 30 New
      +5
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      She is the toad ...

      Br ...! Ugh ... In her mouth .., hornet's nest!
    5. alone
      alone 7 November 2013 22: 10 New
      +3
      wassat here she is! US secret weapon. One photograph can destroy an entire military district. Does she have a husband? I wouldn’t drink so much !! wassat
    6. Victor-M
      Victor-M 7 November 2013 23: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: Valery Neonov
      She is the toad ..

      The suggestion is to find a prince for her to kiss her, maybe a miracle will happen and she will turn into a beautiful one ... although it is unlikely, the last one will become a troll.
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 8 November 2013 00: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: Victor-M
        to find a prince for her to kiss her, maybe a miracle will happen and she will turn into a beautiful ...,

        Here you can’t get off with a kiss to correct this grimace of nature arranged for her sins of her ancestors, you need to love her a hundred times and then she will stop spitting in her own reflection in the mirror and become kind and gentle, like all Russian women, with the exception of a few similar characters from her own liberal circles.
      2. German
        German 11 November 2013 05: 09 New
        +1
        the man is guilty of something that you want to push Novodvorskaya to him? wassat
    7. catapractic
      catapractic 9 November 2013 11: 07 New
      0
      you can’t imagine a toad laughing
  8. Ihrek
    Ihrek 7 November 2013 09: 12 New
    +5
    Why can't America take Russia by force? Because their gut is thin to even try. Despite all its current problems and in spite of its enemies - Russia was great, so it remains and I am sure that it will be for a very long time. The main thing is to prevent internal destabilization, and she will cope with external enemies, as she has proved more than once.
    1. angolaforever
      angolaforever 7 November 2013 11: 36 New
      -3
      Because he cannot risk the millions of lives of his citizens. If by some miracle, as the author writes, they would be able to destroy all ICBMs and SSBNs at once, then Russia’s Khan, it’s like cutting off the hands of a boxer.
      1. T-100
        7 November 2013 12: 28 New
        +2
        Cutting off your arms in boxing is, to put it mildly, unsportsmanlike, and if so, then on the other side you can also "pile up" with your legs and head and not weakly.
        1. angolaforever
          angolaforever 7 November 2013 15: 16 New
          +1
          You can’t get on without hands
  9. Beibit
    Beibit 7 November 2013 09: 13 New
    11
    Before attacking Russia, the Americans must first divide the country, and not hope for separation during the attack like Hitler. They do not want to repeat the story, because they know that just taking Russia will not work. Russia will fight for the homeland and for the preservation of the nation. But America does not have a nation and a homeland; they simply have citizenship. Almost all visitors there are in search of a better life. And if the war starts, they will just as well go to another country where the best conditions are. So on field 1 Russian will cost 10 Americans.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 7 November 2013 09: 22 New
      -1
      Quote: Beibit
      Before attacking Russia, the Americans must first divide the country, and not hope for separation during the attack like Hitler. They do not want to repeat the story, because they know that just taking Russia will not work. Russia will fight for the homeland and for the preservation of the nation. But America does not have a nation and a homeland; they simply have citizenship. Almost all visitors there are in search of a better life. And if the war starts, they will just as well go to another country where the best conditions are. So on field 1 Russian will cost 10 Americans.

      I don’t know friends who have lived or studied in the USA for a long time and say that Americans have no less patriotism than ours, if not more. At the expense of 1 it costs 10 the same is thought to be greatly exaggerated.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 7 November 2013 10: 32 New
        16
        Quote: Semurg
        they say that Americans have no less patriotism than ours, if not more.

        Are you talking about this "patriotism" -During the riots in Los Angeles in the 1992 year, robberies in the south and in the center occurred on a massive scale. Dozens of stores were smashed, people carried away televisions, stereo systems, and everything that turned up handy. The chaos that emerged as a result of angry protests and fires gave people the opportunity to take advantage of the situation, and they engaged in robbery. There were no earthquakes or other disasters - ordinary civil unrest, when society got out of control.

        When I was in New Orleans just four days after Hurricane Katrina, I was driving along Canal Street in the immediate vicinity of French Quarter. Shop after shop were smashed by robbers: at Tiffany and other expensive stores, the windows were broken and everything inside was stolen. Everywhere on the street lay commercial furniture, thrown out during predatory searches from office buildings and shops. Several completely new Corvettes stood abandoned on paths and alleys, apparently in cars that were stolen from dealers, gasoline simply ran out.

        Immediately after the storm, the police were swallowed by the chaos created by the flood, evacuation procedures, etc. At night, New Orleans became a war zone where street gangs fought among themselves and weakened police forces. The National Guard was called up to assist the police in restoring order. A curfew was imposed; everyone who roamed the streets without permission was immediately arrested.
        fully read here.And the flood in Russia in the Far East, will you find anything like that. That's all their Hollywood "patriotism" which ends where there is a freebie.
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 7 November 2013 11: 44 New
          +3
          Looting and patriotism are not the dignity or disadvantage of a particular nation. I wrote about this above that all peoples have a sense of patriotism, but there will also be looters (there are no good or bad peoples, but these peoples have heroes and scoundrels), and the percentage of those and other among all peoples is approximately equal.
      2. andruha70
        andruha70 7 November 2013 12: 16 New
        +3
        I don’t know friends who have lived or studied in the USA for a long time and say that Americans have no less patriotism than ours, if not more. At the expense of 1 it costs 10 the same is thought to be greatly exaggerated.
        you are wrong, dear. they have - patriotism - internal, and even then - not at all, and years ... eleven years ago. and Russian-patriotism-GLOBAL !!! wink
      3. T-100
        7 November 2013 12: 30 New
        +4
        Patriotism is one thing, a person can love his homeland, but he can’t stand up for his defense. The thing is different in our strength of mind, but this they obviously do not have much))))
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 09: 27 New
      +6
      Quote: Beibit
      Before attacking Russia, Americans must first divide the country

      Well, they will divide and that as soon as they attack, such an association will come that it will not seem enough.
      1. nik6006
        nik6006 7 November 2013 10: 53 New
        +7
        Well, yes, as we unite, then some other French region and Alaskan territory will appear in the Russian Federation, well, maybe Mexican autonomy. Well, for sure there will be some sort of Indian district with its capital in Texas.
  10. Alikovo
    Alikovo 7 November 2013 09: 14 New
    +4
    Nothing rallies our people like a threat to an external threat.
    so it was during the Tatar-Mongol yoke, the troubled times of 1598-1613, the Patriotic War of 1812, the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945.
    1. Valery Neonov
      Valery Neonov 7 November 2013 10: 19 New
      10
      + Cohesion is necessary, but war wouldn’t be necessary ... hi
      1. Orik
        Orik 7 November 2013 15: 31 New
        +1
        I'm afraid that we don’t understand well ...
    2. angolaforever
      angolaforever 7 November 2013 11: 39 New
      +1
      At the expense of the Tatar-Mongol yoke it is not necessary, everything was just bad there with unity and, as a result, an epic feil.
  11. Strashila
    Strashila 7 November 2013 09: 16 New
    +2
    "Let's say that today, 07.11.2013/9/00, at 10:XNUMX am, the American armed forces will inflict a preemptive strike against our strategic nuclear forces with cruise missiles with non-nuclear warheads, and let, as a result, our silo and mobile missiles will be destroyed." ... why is it so expensive. .. you have to be more zealous ... pay a gastric migrant XNUMX bucks, well, promise to pay ... you feel the difference ... and now in Russia there are no more bridges, power lines, railways, airports and roads in general ... that's all disassembled, broken, smashed and blocked.
    1. rJIiOK
      rJIiOK 7 November 2013 09: 49 New
      +5
      Hmm .. "and now in Russia there are no longer bridges, power lines, railways, airports and roads in general" - well, actually, this is a common state for the country, many will not even notice anything unusual)) Especially with regard to roads ...
      I think you exaggerate the danger from migrants. This is not American migrants)
    2. chief.matros
      chief.matros 7 November 2013 14: 36 New
      +1
      in such a situation, migrant gastric women are unlikely to remain in Russia, by the way, our FSB and GRU should pay attention to the fact that in the Krasnodar Territory in all large and strategically important points, near intersections and central roads, Meskhetian Turks are standing, than not strategic preparation for God forbid future actions?
  12. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 7 November 2013 09: 16 New
    +5
    The author +++++, and some are minus, I think they are preparing bread and salt to our enemies ...
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 7 November 2013 19: 13 New
      +2
      dear, yes I set it-and not because I cook, bread and salt, but because this article is very similar to hat-making, in order to be ready for such a war, one must prepare. have personnel organizing resistance groups. You have seen a lot of this training, not counting the dispersal of the army. So I think everything is not as simple as the author writes.
  13. RBLip
    RBLip 7 November 2013 09: 17 New
    +5
    let them try. only one question arises - where are we going to bury them all?
    1. T-100
      7 November 2013 12: 34 New
      +4
      Great mother Russia - Germans buried in the fields and swamps, and Americans next to them in the same place)))
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 7 November 2013 12: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: T-100
        Great mother Russia - Germans buried in the fields and swamps, and Americans next to them in the same place)))
        We don't need SUCH humus, let the prairies "fertilize" ourselves ...
  14. HAM
    HAM 7 November 2013 09: 22 New
    +2
    The Americans have a lesson in tactics, although they don't want to offend the "real boys" by comparison ..
  15. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 7 November 2013 09: 23 New
    12
    The Russian people perceive the attack on Russia as a war of total annihilation. Accordingly, the personal goes into the general (general grief and joy). I have a friend from Canada (an emigrant in the third generation), and he says that when he comes to the big white fox, he wants to stay in Russia (now he works in Nizhny) due to the fact that in case of big problems we are united and the Americans are, on the contrary, only for our beloved.
  16. Renat
    Renat 7 November 2013 09: 29 New
    +8
    You won’t throw words out of a song: Russians, Russians, restless hearts, why do we need trouble to become stronger?
  17. 3935333
    3935333 7 November 2013 09: 32 New
    +5
    The Americans are well aware that the power of the Russian Federation will not be able to get on their knees for a long time .... But these dogs are constantly trying to destabilize the situation at some borders with the whole pack (NATO) and since 1994 we have not been able to cure the Caucasus of their actions! West ala its minions, whether they be Turks, Saudis or Europeans, from time immemorial have been waging a continuous war with our state, no matter how it is called ... And after all, what’s interesting - getting real people, they are every year, century ... all assertive and assertive ... And the war is in all areas, both power and cultural-social fronts.
    1. ReifA
      ReifA 7 November 2013 10: 55 New
      +3
      To cure the disease, you need to use the appropriate medicine. With this, the authorities have a lack of desire rather than opportunity.
  18. shinobi
    shinobi 7 November 2013 09: 33 New
    +5
    I don’t know how it will coalesce to defend the homeland, I’ll personally gnaw them with my teeth, but the Americans will not fight us purely for financial reasons. On land, all their naval junk is useless. The transfer of our troops will cost such money that for 60 years the US plans for aggression have remained. They will not be able to completely knock out our Strategic Missile Forces even in the long term, 40% will remain, they themselves recognize, and this is enough for everyone.
    1. 528Obrp
      528Obrp 7 November 2013 10: 08 New
      11
      Quote: shinobi
      40% will remain, they themselves recognize, but that’s enough for everyone.

      Enough of a single charge in New York, so that not only America but the whole world goes out.
      Bucks will die right away.
      1. dimon-media
        dimon-media 7 November 2013 11: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: 528Obrp
        Bucks will die right away.

        And with him all sorts of Rothschilds and the Rockefellers will die. This is both a plus and minus on the battery. One cannot without the other. The world will unfold 180 degrees.
    2. dimon-media
      dimon-media 7 November 2013 11: 06 New
      +4
      Quote: shinobi
      even in the long term, 40% will remain, they themselves will recognize, but this is enough for everyone.

      More than sure, and 5% of nuclear weapons surviving from our entire arsenal will be more than enough for the entire planet to shine from radiation like a New Year's garland. It is not necessary to plow all continents like a garden bed in a garden. Enough point strikes on key, vital objects, so that the world does not recover in the next few decades.
  19. major071
    major071 7 November 2013 09: 35 New
    +5
    rugor Today, 09: 06
    Suppose today 07.11.2013, in 9: 00 in the morning, the American armed forces will deliver a preventive strike on our strategic nuclear forces
    Carried, already 9.06

    Me too.
    1. HAM
      HAM 7 November 2013 11: 08 New
      +4
      Congratulations on your relief.
  20. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 7 November 2013 09: 38 New
    +4
    And the Americans themselves do not need to fight, or rather, for starters, you can limit yourself to air support, to support the advancing troops of NATO countries, you can drive Germans, Baltic states, Italians, Frenchmen, any petty evil shrouders into the embrasure, leave yourself a pure war in the air and destruction of our fleet, which, with all due respect, will not stand against the Americans. It is more likely that some missile carrier missed by them will come up directly from the shores of the United States and make the Americans have nowhere to return. I don’t have any illusions about the current race army but there is nothing better than rallying people than an external aggressor, Russia will somehow become a black hole for NATO and the USA, which will suck out all the juices, and the result will be zero.
    1. Rif
      Rif 7 November 2013 14: 39 New
      +4
      especially the Baltic armada, with both tanks and an inflatable Navy, let Russia tremble.
    2. chief.matros
      chief.matros 7 November 2013 14: 43 New
      +2
      I don’t know how the others, but I think the current Germans (and the Italians along with them, I won’t tell you about the rest) study history well and they are unlikely to want to enter the Russian land again
    3. Setrac
      Setrac 8 November 2013 03: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Standard Oil
      As for the current race army, I have no special illusions

      I would like to know what you generally know about the Russian army?
  21. rolik2
    rolik2 7 November 2013 09: 38 New
    +9
    The author begins to predict the outcome of the war of the two nuclear states, while he does not even try to comprehend, why should the US strike at Russia ???
    It’s much easier (and cheaper) to pay 5, 6 .... columns quarreling among themselves Russians, Belarusians, Kazakhs ..... plunging the country into chaos, and then just simply cut the babosy.
    And what will the war give ???
    Huge expenditures of both resources and people.
    It is not clear what the result will be.
    They already have experience, remember the collapse of the USSR.
    So the war is practically not real.
    1. JonnyT
      JonnyT 7 November 2013 10: 22 New
      +2
      It is cheaper to pay, but when the columns fulfill their function, then the flow of money is very meager ... and there is a possibility that the column will start "z @ peeling" and not pay tribute ... the most profitable option for them is a total reduction of the population of the Russian Federation and turning him into savages who live in caves and holes ... And these goals are achievable only through war ... ... so the war is very real! And most importantly, it is economically viable for the United States.
    2. optimist
      optimist 7 November 2013 10: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: rolik2
      But why should the US strike at Russia ??? It is much easier (and cheaper) to pay the 5th, 6th .... columns quarreling among themselves Russians, Belarusians, Kazakhs ..... plunging the country into chaos, and then just just stretch babosy.

      It is precisely this simple truth that many respected members of the forum do not want to understand. If in 91 they managed to overwhelm the USSR with its enormous power, iron ideology and relatively undisturbed population, then today they put the Russian Federation "in the third position" - "like two fingers on the asphalt." It is enough to simply "hint" to the Russian "elite" that there will be problems with accounts, real estate and families in the West. So let’s relax: there will be no "vigorous" war, - there are no idiots living across the ocean ...
    3. T-100
      7 November 2013 12: 39 New
      +3
      The author begins to predict the outcome of the war of the two nuclear states, while he does not even try to comprehend, why should the US strike at Russia ???
      It’s much easier (and cheaper) to pay 5, 6 .... columns quarreling among themselves Russians, Belarusians, Kazakhs ..... plunging the country into chaos, and then just simply cut the babosy.
      And what will the war give ???
      Huge expenditures of both resources and people.
      It is not clear what the result will be.
      They already have experience, remember the collapse of the USSR.
      So the war is practically not real.


      This is understandable, which is expensive. The people did not believe in the war between Germany and the USSR either, they also said expensively why people should be killed, but 2 who hate the enemy will not be able to get along normally, someone will break loose.
      1. Bigriver
        Bigriver 7 November 2013 13: 02 New
        -1
        Quote: T-100
        . The people also did not believe in the war between Germany and the USSR, they also said expensively, why kill people, but 2 hating opponents will not be able to get along normally, ..

        Who, for example, voiced this point of view? What is "expensive" and "why should people ruin?" Postman Pechkin .., unknown Fraulein at the bar?
        Even England and France believed in World War II. But they didn’t really want her, and were ready to not participate in it even at the cost of losing face and honor.
        You write nonsense. Especially about some kind of hatred because of which peoples cannot get along.
  22. Trailer
    Trailer 7 November 2013 09: 39 New
    10
    It is necessary to make a revolution in the States.
  23. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 7 November 2013 09: 48 New
    +6
    May they not wage a continental war. If regular troops are crushed and control is lost, that’s enough. Will act with the wrong hands. All of Russia didn’t crap them with it. It is enough to take control of 12-15 richest regions and their task will be completed. The second, we also know we won’t get to Washington, but by the war with us they will achieve their main goal. Russia, as their main geopolitical competitor, will be destroyed even if they do not take control of resources. But this is possible only with a 100% guarantee of the destruction of our strategic nuclear forces in the war by conventional means in the next twenty years (let's be realistic), we have no chance, regardless of the unprecedented courage and heroism of our people. And our neighbors as soon as they understand that the fangs were pulled out by the bear and the claws instantly from our friends will turn into uncle Sema's friends. Turkey, China, Poland, Iran, and brothers, I think they want to chew. My opinion is not so simple.
  24. Soviet_Union
    Soviet_Union 7 November 2013 10: 08 New
    +4
    Or imagine a situation:
    Suppose today, November 07.11.2013, 9, at 00:XNUMX a.m., the RF Armed Forces delivered a preemptive strike on the American strategic nuclear forces. Parts of the Marine Corps landed on the east and west coasts, and airborne units in the interior of the United States.
    How long will the Americans resist, and will they just do it? Fiction of course, but the opinions are interesting.
    1. rolik2
      rolik2 7 November 2013 10: 17 New
      +1
      How long will the Americans resist, and will they just do it?


      It would be foolish to think that they will not. That and not so long have to resist. how were you going to supply your group across the ocean?
      1. grandfather
        grandfather 7 November 2013 14: 38 New
        +1
        what? Why supply them ?, there is more than they can bring, everything will be in their place))))
      2. chief.matros
        chief.matros 7 November 2013 14: 49 New
        0
        so we are familiar, we can dine with amers, we don’t need fat as you
  25. edmed
    edmed 7 November 2013 10: 18 New
    +1
    hi Not everything is as rosy as it is written, if the SGA has confidence in the suppression of at least 80% of our strategic nuclear forces, then they can think "And not to risk it, and in one fell swoop to end this bone in the throat", 2) What will withstand the powerful military-industrial complex SGA, stirred up anthill? when all the infrastructure, communications and control are destroyed, finish off the remnants of our military-industrial complex, but no question, everything will be reduced to the number of warheads, it will remain partisan, but this is not the Second World War, nor the VKP (b), nor Stalin, one "fifth column" which will immediately scream "We lost, why shed extra blood! "and where is the confidence that our powers that be will not declare" At the request of the working oligarchs, managers and kreakls, we surrender. " I hope I'm wrong, I really hope.
  26. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 7 November 2013 10: 19 New
    +2
    Delirium, excuse me, but nonsense. To suddenly disarm the American strategic nuclear forces, you need to have sufficient means for this. Mattress toppers are estimated to have between 2500 and 7000 axes. Shoigu ordered the availability of the X-555 in our country to be increased 2020 times by 30, and by 2020 you will not believe this. The marines on our large landing ships will be destroyed hundreds, if not thousands of miles from the American coast. It is necessary to revive the army and the navy, but the conclusion is correct, but unfortunately we have only a talking shop. Rogozin unfortunately turned into Mr. "tomorrow" or "soon"
    1. chief.matros
      chief.matros 7 November 2013 14: 52 New
      0
      But why do we send our marines there? We will arm their Indians and say that we will return their lands to them - and on you is the 5th column on the North American continent
  27. w2000
    w2000 7 November 2013 10: 28 New
    +6
    The article is nonsense! Reduced to the idiom "no need to rock the boat." But the capitalist oligarchs and their hangers-on who have settled in the Kremlin are not interested in rocking the boat. This whole clique must be destroyed and returned to the people - what is rightfully theirs. What is needed is not walking around the swamp with placards, but an implacable, armed struggle against the capitalist exploiters and officials serving them jackals, the country needs a Socialist Revolution! Happy holiday of the Great October Socialist Revolution, comrades! Truth will win!
  28. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 7 November 2013 10: 41 New
    +4
    Well, yes, the author is right. Yesterday I already gave an example of three missile cruisers in the Mediterranean - on the one hand, strength, and on the other, we lost 3 nuclear missile cruisers, one nuclear aircraft carrier (now Chinese). Moreover, we lost them not in a brave battle against all the US aircraft carrier groups combined, but ourselves, voluntarily under the cries of "perestroika, glasnost, democracy" We cut the Voevoda that inspired the enemy in exchange for literally torn jeans and chewing gum. And how many submarines, strategic bombers, space projects such as Buran, Skif, Spiral?
    Can Russia have a worse enemy than its own nonsense?
  29. Bezarius
    Bezarius 7 November 2013 10: 41 New
    0
    I want to ask this question: is their people able to withstand such a war morally.

    Naturally, the overwhelming majority has something to protect, and this majority knows that if they fight with us, then for the sake of extermination, therefore if death threatens, it is advisable to take as many enemies as possible with you.
  30. mithridate
    mithridate 7 November 2013 10: 47 New
    +2
    it is necessary to take preventive measures - to destroy the fifth column and wage an irreconcilable ideological war against the countries of western liberasty
  31. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 7 November 2013 10: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: rolik2
    It’s much easier (and cheaper) to pay 5, 6 .... columns quarreling among themselves Russians, Belarusians, Kazakhs ..... plunging the country into chaos, and then just simply cut the babosy.

    In Russia, there has long been a deliberate etching of peoples. The most interesting thing is that the authorities react very sluggishly to this. I don’t want to think that there are near-minded people at the helm, most likely the so-called agents of influence, still have sufficient weight and possess what gives them the opportunity to openly mischief.

    Quote: rolik2
    So the war is practically not real.

    But completely excluding the probability is also not right.
    1. Prometey
      Prometey 7 November 2013 13: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: MRomanovich
      In Russia, there has been a purposeful pitting of peoples for a long time. The most interesting thing is that the authorities react very sluggishly to this.

      Why is it sluggish. Try to raise the issue of recognizing the rights of the state-forming people in the country for the Russians, and the authorities will react very quickly, accusing them of Nazism and inciting ethnic hatred. The Kremlin generally cuts from the word Russian. There is even advertising on the streets of cities, where the Russian language is not hesitantly distorted on banners and posters, replacing the "Internet" and "Dzhamshuts" with the wretchedly primitive language. In any normal country, for this, both the advertiser and the performer would be imposed with not sickly fines. And what about us - nravitstsa cattle.
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 7 November 2013 15: 41 New
      0
      Quote: MRomanovich
      In Russia, there has long been a deliberate etching of peoples. The most interesting thing is that the authorities react very sluggishly to this. I don’t want to think that there are near-minded people at the helm, most likely the so-called agents of influence, still have sufficient weight and possess what gives them the opportunity to openly mischief.

      And to admit the only version explaining everything - that it is precisely the authorities that pit just that - what, religion does not allow?
  32. SPACE
    SPACE 7 November 2013 10: 54 New
    +5
    Today, in the courtyard of the 21 century, the century of space flights, rockets, supersonic fighters, multi-ton bombers and UAVs. The time when precisely high-tech weapons gives opportunities and determines power. And due to these circumstances, the role of man and his quality plays an increasingly smaller role, because he controls such weapons remotely and even a small number of people. This is during the battle on the Kulikovo field, near Borodino or near Prokhorovka, when the wars went into a frontal attack on the enemy and where it was very necessary to have courage and courage ... Times have changed.
    I do not recognize naked patriotism only in relation to one kind of troops, the triad of strategic nuclear forces / tactical nuclear weapons and aerospace defense! As soon as the strategic nuclear forces of Russia reduce their combat readiness and number, a quick, accurate and fatal blow will follow, to finish off the remnants of the strategic nuclear forces, and then a second destructive wave will follow slowly, not even for people, thousands of planes, after the clouds of tomahawks, will destroy the entire military and civilian infrastructure, plunging the country into the cave age, where people are chasing the last piece of bread ... And then the “new horde” of mercenaries from around the world will come ... and I seek out flocks of drones circling like kites with their cold thermal imagers living in the forests of the remaining rebellious Russians ... Subsequently, rewriting history and making box office films about the heroic Russian Indians. So neither dug karamultuki, nor partisanism, nor your courage, nor courage, as well as faith in invincible ancestors will save you ... if you do not keep up with the times.
    It is necessary to continuously improve and develop the Russian Nuclear Shield, as the only means of maintaining balance in this world and 100% guarantees of security and sovereignty. The strategic nuclear forces of Russia are not only the strategic security of Russia itself, but also the security of the entire sane part of humanity.
    Z.Y. I think excessive arrogance is very dangerous, it’s better to overdo it than not overdo it.
  33. makarov
    makarov 7 November 2013 10: 55 New
    0
    Quote: Semurg
    On their territory they fought twice with an equal enemy, but for a long time. This is the struggle for independence from England and the civil war of the north and south.

    SW Semurg.
    I did not make a reservation. The war with Britain was not yet the United States, but only a colony. Between south and north, it is civilian, but not with an external adversary.
  34. dimon-media
    dimon-media 7 November 2013 10: 59 New
    +1
    It is impossible to destroy all launchers with nuclear weapons with a preemptive strike. this is especially true for mobile complexes and strategic submarines that are located outside the base on combat duty and are constantly changing their locations. It is enough to survive several complexes or one nuclear submarine of the Borey class to plunge the United States into the Stone Age or in general, so that for many years this North American continent would be unsuitable for habitation. Mattresses are well aware.
    1. chief.matros
      chief.matros 7 November 2013 14: 57 New
      0
      it’s enough to blow up the boat with the available nuclear missiles in either the Pacific or the Atlantic oceans and the wave will cover America from the coast to the coast
  35. iulai
    iulai 7 November 2013 10: 59 New
    11
    The enemy number one for our state is corrupt officials at all levels! Remember Saddam Hussein, he was sold by corrupt officials, both military and civilian. The enemy has two intentions - internal separatism, all talk about the separation of any territories should be equal to high treason and the punishment should be 25 years. And there should be no extenuating circumstances - 25 years and period.
  36. Ribwort
    Ribwort 7 November 2013 11: 00 New
    +7
    The article is a minus. He began, as they say, for health, and ended with a phrase in which the thought is written in red ribbon: God forbid us to rebel against the power and our sun-redeemed savior. Yes, if not he ...
    I will tell you about another "proven tool". This is total corruption, the lack of responsibility of officials and the authorities before the law, the mass stupefaction of young people through reforms in education, science, etc., the debilitation of DTV and the media, the creation of entire projects that have no practical value and whose only task is to launder and withdraw money from the budget. funds. Reform of the police, health care. Pension reform - there is no money there anymore, they are thinking about raising the retirement age. The dominance of visiting migrants and related crime. I can go on for a long time ...
    And yet, after the revolution, Stalin still had two decades to carry out the industrialization of the country, end the famine and almost manage to prepare the country for war.
    And after your sun will remain scorched earth, a territory that does not even have the potential, neither mental nor resource, in order to once again turn into a COUNTRY. And therefore ...
    Today is the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution. Happy holiday, men! drinks
  37. Migari
    Migari 7 November 2013 11: 03 New
    0
    Yes, Russia is not dwarfs for you, which the States and their mongrel attacked by aircraft, knowing that there wouldn’t be a retaliatory strike, history doesn’t come to everyone for the future, which means dealing with Russia and its people.
  38. poccinin
    poccinin 7 November 2013 11: 09 New
    -2
    Yes, they just have a thin gut to communicate with RUSSIA, even if NATO comes and DO NOT BUILD! RUSSIA STANDED AND WILL STAND FOR A THOUSAND YEARS. It is dangerous to make a revolution. Now it’s not 18-19 centuries. the revolution will begin, NATO will come, and the USA (to seize nuclear weapons) so the war will begin again. and in our Far East and Siberia the taiga is not passable but just for the partisans. GOOD MEN WILL STAND UP FROM THE TABLE. they do not have Internet. Skype social networks. but they have families and they will tear anyone to shreds.
  39. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 7 November 2013 11: 09 New
    +1
    If our defense will be in such a war, there WILL BE !!!! The only scenario will be the Izuit vile for which we are not ready. Russia can be either a great power or it will not be given another.
  40. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 7 November 2013 11: 20 New
    +6
    I personally will tear this scum even with my teeth, even with my hands. And let her woman give a berdanka to him next to him in the trench and at least spit no air to her son. And I will not do it because I protect the family, or rather, not only because of this, but because I have two handfuls of grandfather's orders in my safe and two great-grandfathers. And if I don’t have enough, I will look into my son’s eyes and what right I will have to come to grandfathers to graves. So Lord, if necessary, give me strength and courage to deprive !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  41. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 7 November 2013 11: 24 New
    0
    Sorry Author, but the title is provocative. Ie will not take by force, but take ..... how? By persuasion, bribery, deceit? The indecent analogies climb into the head, from this the mood begins to deteriorate and pass into the aggressive stage.
    In principle, write about the obvious. But the name ....
  42. Hort
    Hort 7 November 2013 11: 24 New
    +3
    in general, in the event of a protracted war, we will experience tangible food problems in view of the collapse of the agricultural sector and the unclear situation with the strategic food supply.
    20 years of "wonderful" reforms have not been in vain, unfortunately
  43. svp67
    svp67 7 November 2013 11: 31 New
    +2
    1) Americans have never had an equal or even strong enemy in comparison with them.

    I reached this line and didn’t read further, it’s no longer true.
    The author believes that England at the time of the war "for independence" was equal to or weaker than America? And Spain?
    No, the Americans had to fight with opponents equal in strength and stronger ...
    1. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 7 November 2013 11: 46 New
      +1
      when it was ? Today, the American is different - rights, benefits, freedom and other crap turned them into dependents and slobs.
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 8 November 2013 03: 41 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      The author believes that England at the time of the war "for independence" was equal to or weaker than America? And Spain?

      The Russians and the French did not allow the British to crush the uprising in the American colonies, and they would have crushed and did not frown. The Spaniards - yes, were weaker many times weaker.
  44. Bigriver
    Bigriver 7 November 2013 11: 35 New
    0
    Boys hiand meanwhile, in the neighborhood is an excellent article: Russians and the “game”: an answer to the challenge of history. http://politobzor.net/show-7475-russkie-i-igra-otvet-na-vyzov-istorii.html
    In fact, the transition in the modern situation from war to game means a transition from large-scale large-scale wars and mobilization, to a war of meanings, ideas, to a game of political technology; gunboats and tanks will be replaced by organizational weapons; education systems, legislation, media, culture and art, the Internet, social media are becoming a battleground. The adversary acts non-linearly ...
  45. shtanko.49
    shtanko.49 7 November 2013 11: 39 New
    +4
    Quote: major071
    I’ll go dig a machine gun just in case.
    The author did not take into account the fact that when modeling this described situation, not all ICBMs will be destroyed, because ours, too, do not bast their cabbage soup and the United States is waiting for a retaliatory strike. But in the near future, such a scenario is impossible. But on land (here I agree with the author) the United States will not be able to wage war with Russia. Because they will take care of their ass, and we will defend our homeland, and this is our holy duty. Therefore, the United States and seeks to ruin Russia from the inside, applying all the ways.

    And for some reason I am not so much afraid of Americans as our "effective managers" What do not you say there, and Gorbach and EBN were not Americans, it is true that it is difficult to call them Russians. And how many of us still have the same who are tearing the country to pieces, this is more terrible than amers.
  46. old rocket man
    old rocket man 7 November 2013 11: 45 New
    0
    Quote: angolaforever
    If by some miracle, as the author writes, they would be able to destroy all ICBMs and SSBNs at once, then Russia’s Khan, it’s like cutting off the hands of a boxer.

    No, not Khan.
    In this case, they will be able to defeat Russia only by making its territory unsuitable for life and further use, that is, by using nuclear weapons, but they really need territory. But by ordinary means, they can conquer Russia from their gut, in the Pentagon they understand this very well negative
  47. Geokingxnumx
    Geokingxnumx 7 November 2013 12: 00 New
    +4
    I will say how the warrior of Russia against America ends) END OF THE EARTH!
  48. old rocket man
    old rocket man 7 November 2013 12: 02 New
    0
    Quote: 3935333
    The Americans are well aware that the power of the Russian Federation will not be able to get on their knees for a long time .... But these dogs are constantly together with the whole pack (NAT

    I agree, but not for long, but never drinks
  49. Criceta
    Criceta 7 November 2013 12: 08 New
    -4
    And therefore I ask all our citizens to be imbued with the thought that all these protests, speeches at Bolotnaya and Sakharovaya will not lead to good.


    Yeah, that's why everyone in a united rush should rally shoulder to shoulder around a party of crooks and thieves, close their eyes to the theft of our ruling elite, obsequiously welcome all the wise initiatives of our government and the guarantor of the constitution personally, think less, watch more on the first television channel, soak in jar hatred of not systemic opposition ... And the most important thing to forget, but better wink to score for your personal interests, directly dissolve in a single patriotic frenzy, put health for the good of our dear leaders))) Not a prospect, but a dream of the Kremlin troll.
    1. Victor-M
      Victor-M 7 November 2013 23: 04 New
      +1
      In your opinion, you need to stir up the current government, and with it the whole country, so that other thieves, including foreign thieves, will rob it, as in the 90s? Then smash the temples and build in their place gaming brothels with a brothel service? Or how? And I’ll tell you how the fuck!
      1. Criceta
        Criceta 12 November 2013 11: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Victor-M
        And I’ll tell you how the fuck!

        It is very joyful to see a clear view of the electorate on how to solve problems in Russia ... Well, keep it up;)
  50. Corporal
    Corporal 7 November 2013 12: 12 New
    +2
    Hat-covering. "Do not boast going to the army