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October Revolution Day 1917 Year in Russia

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October Revolution Day 1917 Year in Russia

For over 70 years, the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution was the main holiday of the Soviet Union. 7 November throughout the Soviet era was the “red day of the calendar,” that is, a public holiday celebrated with mandatory holiday events held in every Soviet city. It was so until the 1991 year, when the USSR was collapsed, and the communist ideology was almost criminalized. In the Russian Federation, this day was first renamed the Day of Accord and Reconciliation, hinting at the need to end the civil war in the information field of the country and reconciliation of supporters of different ideological views, and then canceled completely. November 7 ceased to be a holiday, but was included in the list of memorable dates. The law was passed in 2010 year. In 2005, in connection with the establishment of a new national holiday (National Unity Day), 7 November ceased to be a day off.


This day can not be deleted from stories Russia, since the uprising in Petrograd 25 — October 26 (7 — 8 November in a new style) led not only to the overthrow of the bourgeois Provisional Government, but also predetermined all further development of both Russia and many other states of the planet.

Brief chronicle of events

By the fall of 1917, the policy of the Provisional Government brought the Russian state to the brink of disaster. Not only suburbs split off from Russia, but Cossack autonomies were also formed. In Kiev, the separatists claimed power. Even Siberia has its own autonomous government. The armed forces decayed and could not continue military operations, the soldiers deserted tens of thousands. The front was falling apart. Russia could no longer resist the coalition of central powers. Finance and economics were disorganized. Problems began with the supply of food to the cities, the government began to conduct surplus. The peasants carried out self-seizure of land, the manor houses burned in hundreds. Russia was in a “suspended state,” since the Provisional Government postponed the decision of fundamental issues until the Constituent Assembly was convened.

The country was covered with a wave of chaos. Autocracy, which was the core of the whole empire, was destroyed. But in return he was given nothing. People felt free from all taxes, duties and laws. The Provisional Government, whose policies were determined by leaders of the liberal and left-wing sense, could not establish a viable order; moreover, it aggravated the situation by its actions. Suffice it to recall the "democratization" of the army during the war. Petrograd de facto lost control of the country.

This and decided to take advantage of the Bolsheviks. Until the summer of 1917, they were not considered a serious political force, yielding in popularity and strength to the cadets and the Social Revolutionaries. But by the fall of 1917, their popularity had grown. Their program was clear and understandable to the masses. The power in this period could take virtually any force that showed political will. This force became the Bolsheviks.

In August, 1917, they headed for an armed uprising and a socialist revolution. This happened at the VI Congress of the RSDLP (b). However, then the Bolshevik party was actually in the underground. The most revolutionary regiments of the Petrograd garrison were disbanded, and workers sympathizing with the Bolsheviks were disarmed. The opportunity to recreate armed structures appeared only during the Kornilov revolt. The idea had to be postponed. Only 10 (23) of October, the Central Committee adopted a resolution on the preparation of an uprising. The 16 (29) of October, an enlarged meeting of the Central Committee, in which representatives of the districts took part, confirmed the earlier decision.

On October 12 (25), 1917, the Petrograd Military Revolutionary Committee was established to protect the revolution from an “openly prepared attack by the military and civilian Kornilovites” on the initiative of the chairman of the Petrosoviet, Leon Trotsky. The VRK included not only the Bolsheviks, but also some left-wing Socialist-Revolutionaries and anarchists. In fact, this body also coordinated the preparation of the armed uprising. The composition of the Military Revolutionary Committee included representatives of the Central Committee, Petrograd and military party organizations of the Bolshevik and Left Social Revolutionary parties, delegates to the Presidium and the soldiers section of the Petrosoviet, representatives of the Red Guard headquarters, the Central Committee of the Baltic fleet and the Centroflot, factory and factory committees, and so on. Operational work was carried out by the Bureau of the Military Revolutionary Committee. It was formally led by the Left Social Revolutionary Pavel Lazimir, but almost all decisions were made by the Bolsheviks Leo Trotsky, Nikolai Podvoisky and Vladimir Antonov-Ovseenko.

With the help of the WRC, the Bolsheviks established close ties with the soldiers' committees of the Petrograd garrison formations. In fact, the left forces not only restored the pre-July diarchy in the city, but also began to establish their control over the military forces. When the Provisional Government decided to send the revolutionary regiments to the front, the Petrograd Soviet appointed an order check and decided that the order was dictated not by strategic, but by political motives. The regiments were ordered to remain in Petrograd. The commander of the military district banned the issue of workers weapon from the arsenals of the city and suburbs, but the Council wrote out warrants and issued weapons. The Petrograd Soviet also stopped the Provisional Government’s attempt to arm its supporters with the help of the Peter and Paul Fortress arsenal.

Parts of the Petrograd garrison declared disobedience to the Provisional Government. October 21 held a meeting of representatives of the regiments of the garrison, who recognized the Petrograd Soviet as the sole legitimate authority in the city. From that moment on, the Military Revolutionary Committee began to appoint its commissars to military units, replacing commissars of the Provisional Government. On the night of October 22, the Military Revolutionary Committee demanded that the headquarters of the Petrograd Military District recognize the authority of their commissars, and 22 declared its subordination to the garrison. October 23 The WRC obtained the right to create an advisory body at the headquarters of the Petrograd district. On the same day, Trotsky personally conducted an agitation in the Peter and Paul Fortress, where they still doubted which side to take. By October 24, the WRC appointed his commissars to the 51 part, as well as to arsenals, armories, railway stations and factories. In fact, by the beginning of the uprising, the left forces established military control over the capital. The Provisional Government was incapacitated and could not respond decisively. As Trotsky himself later acknowledged, “the armed uprising took place in Petrograd in two ways: in the first half of October, when the Petrograd regiments, obeying the Council’s decree, which fully responded to their own moods, refused to execute the command order with impunity, and October 25, when only a small one was needed additional uprising, dissecting the umbilical cord of the February statehood ".

Therefore, there were no significant clashes and much blood, the Bolsheviks simply took power. The guards of the Provisional Government and the units loyal to them surrendered without a fight or went home. Shed their blood for the "temporary" no one wanted. So, the Cossacks were ready to support the Provisional Government, but with the strengthening of their regiments with machine guns, armored cars and infantry. In connection with the non-fulfillment of the conditions proposed by the Cossack regiments, the Council of Cossack troops decided not to take any part in suppressing the Bolshevik uprising and withdrew hundreds of Cossacks already sent by 2 and the machine gun command of the 14 regiment.

From October 24, the units of the Petrograd Military Revolutionary Committee occupied all the key points of the city: bridges, railway stations, telegraphs, printing houses, power stations and banks. When the head of the Provisional Government, Kerensky ordered the arrest of members of the WRC, there was no one to execute the order of arrest. It should be noted that in August-September 1917, the Provisional Government had every opportunity to prevent an uprising and physically liquidate the Bolshevik party. But the “Februaryists” did not do this, being confident that the Bolshevik action would be guaranteed a defeat. The right-wing socialists and cadets knew about the preparation of the uprising, but believed that it would develop according to the July scenario — demonstrations demanding the resignation of the government. At this time, planned to pull the faithful troops and units from the front. But there were no rallies, armed people just occupied the key objects of the capital, and all this was done without a single shot, calmly and methodically. The members of the Provisional Government headed by Kerensky for some time could not even understand what was happening, since they were cut off from the outside world. One could only learn about the actions of the revolutionaries by indirect signs: at some point, the telephone connection in the Winter Palace was gone, then electricity. The government sat in the Winter Palace, where they held meetings, awaited the troops that had been summoned from the front, and belatedly sent out appeals to the population and to the garrison. Apparently, the members of the government hoped to sit out in the palace before the arrival of the troops from the front. The lack of talent of its members is visible even in the fact that the officials did nothing to protect their last stronghold - the Winter Palace: neither ammunition nor food was prepared. Junkers could not even feed dinner.

By the morning of October 25 (November 7) the Interim Government in Petrograd had only the Winter Palace. By the end of the day, he was “defended” around 200 women from the women's shock battalion, 2-3 companies of bezusyh junkers and several dozen disabled people - St. George's knights. Protection began to disperse even before the assault. The Cossacks were the first to leave, embarrassed by the fact that the largest infantry unit was "women with guns." Then they left on the orders of their chief cadet at the Mikhailovsky Artillery School. So the defense of the Winter Palace lost its artillery. A part of the cadets of the Oranienbaum school is also gone. General Bagratuni refused to bear the duties of commander and left the Winter Palace. The shots of the famous storming of the Winter Palace are a beautiful myth. The guards mostly went home. The whole assault consisted in a flaccid exchange of fire. Its scale can be understood by casualties: six soldiers and one drummer were killed. At 2 in the morning of October 26 (November 8), members of the Provisional Government were arrested. Kerensky himself escaped in advance, drove away accompanied by a car of the American ambassador under the American flag.

It should be noted that the operation of the WRC was brilliant only with the complete passivity and lack of talent of the Provisional Government. If a Napoleonic (Suvorov) type with several combat-ready units had come out against the Bolsheviks, the uprising would have been easily suppressed. Garrison soldiers and workers of the Red Guard who succumbed to propaganda could not resist the battle-hardened warriors. Moreover, they didn’t want to fight too much. Thus, neither the workers of the city, nor the garrison of Petrograd in their mass participated in the uprising. And during the shelling of the Winter Palace from the guns of the Peter and Paul Fortress, only 2 shells slightly touched the eaves of the Winter Palace. Later, Trotsky admitted that even the most faithful of gunners deliberately shot past the palace. The attempt to use the guns of the Aurora cruiser failed as well: because of its location, the warship could not shoot at the Winter Palace. Limited to a single salvo. And the Winter Palace itself, if it were well organized, could hold out for a long time, especially given the low combat capability of the forces surrounding it. Thus, Antonov-Ovseenko described the picture of the "assault" as follows: "Disorderly crowds of sailors, soldiers, Red Guards, then float to the gates of the palace, then they vylylyvayut".

Simultaneously with the uprising in Petrograd, the Moscow Council Revolutionary Committee took key points of the city under its control. It didn't go so smoothly here. The Public Security Committee under the chairman of the city duma Vadim Rudnev, with the support of the junkers and Cossacks, began military actions against the Council. The fighting continued until November 3, when the Public Security Committee capitulated.

In general, the Soviet government was established in the country easily and without much bloodshed. The revolution was immediately supported in the Central Industrial District, where local Soviets of Workers' Deputies were actually in control of the situation. In the Baltics and Byelorussia, Soviet power was established in October - November 1917 of the year, and in the Central Chernozem region, the Volga region and Siberia - until the end of January 1918 of the year. This process was called the "triumphal march of Soviet power." The process of the predominantly peaceful establishment of Soviet power throughout Russia became another proof of the complete degradation of the Provisional Government and the need for the Bolsheviks to seize power.

In the evening of October 25, the II All-Russian Congress of Soviets opened in Smolny, which proclaimed the transfer of all power to the Soviets. October 26 The Council adopted a Decree on Peace. All belligerent countries were asked to begin negotiations on the conclusion of a universal democratic peace. The decree on the land passed landowner land to the peasants. All bowels, forests and waters nationalized. At the same time, a government was formed - the Council of People's Commissars headed by Vladimir Lenin.

Subsequent events confirmed the correctness of the Bolsheviks. Russia was on the verge of death. The old project was destroyed, and only a new project could save Russia. He was given and the Bolsheviks.

Bolsheviks are often blamed for the fact that it was they who destroyed “old Russia”, but this is not true. The Russian empire was killed by the Februarylists. The "fifth column" included: part of the generals, top dignitaries, bankers, industrialists, representatives of the liberal-democratic parties, many of whom were members of Masonic lodges, most of the intelligentsia who hated the "prison of nations." In general, most of the "elite" of Russia with their own hands and destroyed the empire. It was these people who killed the “old Russia”. The Bolsheviks in this period were marginal, in fact, were on the sidelines of political life. But they were able to offer Russia and its peoples a common project, program and goal. The Bolsheviks showed political will and took power, while their competitors were debating about the future of Russia.
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  1. major071
    major071 7 November 2013 09: 05
    50
    Day of the seventh of November -
    Red day calendar.
    Look out your window:
    Everything on the street is red.

    Flags at the gates
    Blazing in flames.
    See, the music is coming
    Where the trams went.

    All people - both young and old -
    Celebrates freedom.
    And my red ball flies
    Straight to the sky!

    S.Ya. Marshak
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    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 7 November 2013 10: 34
      53
      Everyone who supports the holiday, with the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution, which created the world's first socialist working people state !!!
      Liberals, flies to the minus.
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 7 November 2013 12: 22
        24
        Our red banner, our right cause! Happy holiday comrades!
        1. Postman
          Postman 7 November 2013 21: 46
          +1
          I didn’t notice something red.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 22: 09
            +4
            Quote: Postman
            I didn’t notice something red.

            Color blind. But active laughing
          2. shpuntik
            shpuntik 7 November 2013 23: 02
            -1
            Postman RU Today, 21:46 PM ↑ New
            I didn’t notice something red.

            You are welcome! hi
      2. Vadim2013
        Vadim2013 7 November 2013 13: 13
        23
        "... for the first time in history, power was taken away from the rich, for the first time the assertion that wealth and power are inseparable was debunked, for the first time people who were not rich and independent of the rich were in power, as it is on all continents so far. And it was proved that society can live and work. and develop without a clique of overweight owners, without their guiding and pointing predatory hand ... "
      3. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 7 November 2013 18: 26
        +7
        Happy holiday comrades! Happy Great October Day!

        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 7 November 2013 23: 49
          +1
          Karlsonn (5) SU Today, 18: 26 ↑
          Happy holiday comrades! Happy Great October Day!

          Congratulations to the Communists !!! As having paid contributions to the Komsomol, and solemnly disagreeing with this today, not wanting to spoil the mood of the holiday, I propose to postpone the debate to another date. Who, comrades, raise your hand? Most!!! yes
          Do not seek heaven on earth.
          Earthly path
          a completely different kind
          In order to be in the saddle,
          The traveler has changed
          nature
          To make him less and less sad
          and regret
          that left a lot
          Learn to give
          and take
          Only that,
          what the windy fixed ...
          And in their own words
          After reading the answers,
          don't shy away
          Having weighed lies and truth on the scales,
          To concern their heritage
          And knowing him not to get sick
          Search for the culprits
          and not tear
          Comfortable life to reconsider,
          And to the empty
          harness again ...


          Do not seek heaven on earth
          he is covered by the earth
          in reliable darkness ...


          © Copyright: Alexander Syzranov, 2012
          hi
      4. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 7 November 2013 23: 30
        +9
        Quote: vladimirZ
        Everyone who supports the holiday, with the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution, which created the world's first socialist working people state !!!
        Liberals, flies to the minus.


        in Belarus, by the way, November 7 is celebrated as an official holiday, sales are closed 7 and 8
        Belarus remained the only one in the post-Soviet space, where the Bolshevik coup of 1917 is still called the Great October Revolution and is celebrated at the state level - with congratulations to fellow citizens from the president and an official weekend.


        so happy holiday comrades !!
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 8 November 2013 00: 48
          +3
          Quote: regressSSSR
          so happy holiday comrades !!


          Yes sir! drinks hi

        2. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 8 November 2013 05: 52
          +8
          Belarusians, unlike other peoples of the former USSR, turned out to be smarter and more far-sighted, people did not succumb to the provocation of the liberoid intelligentsia to change the political and social structure of their state.
          Unfortunately, in fact we are a state-forming people - the Russians have not turned out to be so smart and far-sighted.
          With the state holiday of the historical October Revolution you Belarusian people!
    3. My address
      My address 7 November 2013 18: 06
      +4
      Vladimir, more than two advantages I can not (one in a personal).



      Happy Holidays!
    4. soldier's grandson
      soldier's grandson 7 November 2013 18: 46
      +2
      remembered school, then taught this rhyme, thanks
  2. Gur
    Gur 7 November 2013 09: 09
    57
    On this day, in 1917, we were given a chance to break away from our trough, free our hands from chains and try to build great bright happiness for everyone, but the personal trough did not let us go, now we champ each in his own and everyone has a different one, and now we are not up to great accomplishments, construction projects, victories. And it is so insulting for the dead people for universal happiness, for the conquest of those people that we lost. Equality, fraternity, the right to work, a decent old age, free medicine and education, all this has sunk into the past. Now we are only outraged by the venality and theft of some, and the complete inaction of us and others about this, and the dream of a truck with gingerbread cookies on our street . YOUR FRIENDS WITH YOUR HOLIDAY! (Who else considers himself as such)
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 02
      -18 qualifying.
      Quote: GUR
      On this day, in 1917, we were given a chance to break away from our trough

      In the coffin I saw such exemptions, the country drowned in blood.
      1. Gur
        Gur 7 November 2013 10: 24
        41
        Our country is respected throughout its history knee-deep in blood, and today's situation is so bloodless (when compared with other times) the quiet destruction of its people and country. And we are in the role of sheep for the slaughter, so in the grave I saw your bright capitalistic future, and I hope to see.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 35
          -7
          Quote: GUR
          Our country is respected throughout its history knee-deep in blood,

          Is that an excuse?
          Quote: GUR
          so in the grave I saw your bright capitalist future, and I hope to see.

          Similarly, I also saw him in the grave, and those who stir up revolutions in Russia with foreign money, I also want to see them in the grave!
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 7 November 2013 10: 53
            19
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I also saw him in the grave and those who stir up the revolution in Russia with foreign money,

            Dear Alexander! Do you personally have money for the revolution? Hand over - there will be no revolution (or peaceful change of the system) for "foreign money". So the revolutionaries of that time did not have them either. We used what we could. And pretty podkuzmili "sponsors"! They didn't expect that a NEW GREAT COUNTRY would be born!
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 17
              +3
              Quote: Egoza
              So the revolutionaries of that time also did not have them. Used what they could.

              Today they also use what they can wink Elena, I am waiting for all the excuses, "forced" actions of these persons. Just think they get money from the State Department, well, so for a good cause, yes wink
              1. Corsair
                Corsair 7 November 2013 13: 26
                12
                Let the daughter of the ex-mayor, but the thoroughbred ...

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                1. Tver
                  Tver 7 November 2013 14: 36
                  0
                  One of the coolest replicas ... Comforted !!!
              2. Thunderbolt
                Thunderbolt 7 November 2013 13: 34
                +3
                And you call these freaks revolutionaries ?? Well ... Well, maybe they are also Communists in your opinion ??? A sub-bulk type similar to Koba ?? laughing
              3. Egoza
                Egoza 7 November 2013 14: 22
                +1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Elena, I'm waiting for your excuses, "

                Do not wait!
                As for the persons you have indicated - I'm sorry, they have different goals and they are not going to make a revolution for the people. except for your loved ones! therefore, in our time, with all the revolutionary enthusiasm of all those who profit from the people, send after those who were thrown off during the Great October Socialist Revolution!
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 11: 37
              -1
              Quote: Egoza
              They somehow did not expect that a NEW GREAT COUNTRY would be born!

              Well, for the sake of truth, we were very lucky, come to power "political prostitute" ...
              1. Passer
                Passer 7 November 2013 19: 52
                +1
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Well, for the sake of truth, we were very lucky, come to power "political prostitute" ...


                Question: Who is in power now?
          2. apostrophe
            apostrophe 7 November 2013 11: 01
            +6
            Well, look at the liberals of the 17th in the grave, but they made a turmoil by displacing the king.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 33
              -3
              Quote: Apostrophe
              Well, look at the liberals of the 17th in the grave, but they made a turmoil by displacing the king.

              Yes, and Lenin only shot him along with his family.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 11: 39
                -2
                truth for the sake of the Bolshevik did not shoot the king
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 11: 55
                  -3
                  and the one who set the minus (apparently, Mr. Romanov) generally knows the story ?!
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 56
                  -1
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  truth for the sake of the Bolshevik did not shoot the king

                  You are the best today good Bigger lies, nobody can write today laughing
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 12: 00
                    11
                    learn the novels, by the time of the execution N. Romanov was not an emperor, I do not discuss the ethical part of events.
                    your love for the little family that first managed to get on the throne through blood, then lost it, plunging the country into the next blood, and then managed to support Aloizovich crosses all borders.
                    1. Tver
                      Tver 7 November 2013 14: 42
                      -6
                      True, your family is still ... Kagtavy was not much better, but he died quickly ...
                  2. Gur
                    Gur 7 November 2013 12: 28
                    +1
                    Why, you, you probably haven’t gone to the cinema for a long time ...
                  3. Turkestan
                    Turkestan 7 November 2013 17: 55
                    -2
                    FOR YOUR INFORMATION, the question of the execution on July 17, 1918 of the tsar’s family, its entourage and servants was not agreed with either Lenin or Sverdlov. Lenin did not know the decision to shoot Nicholas II until July 17, for example, and the fact that Lenin replied to a request from a Copenhagen newspaper about rumors of the death of the tsar’s family: “The former tsar is unharmed. All the rumors are only lies of the capitalist press. ”
                    When rumors began to circulate in June about the death of the tsar’s family, the Moscow leaders, distrusting the Urals, specially sent the front commander Reinhold Berzin, who personally made sure that the tsar’s family was alive, to the Ipatiev’s house. The fact that the preparation for the execution of the tsar’s family was not coordinated with the Kremlin is indicated by the text of the telegram addressed to Lenin and Sverdlov. There was no direct connection between Moscow and Yekaterinburg, and communication went through Petrograd. A telegram was sent by Zinoviev: “Moscow, the Kremlin, Sverdlova, copy to Lenin. From Yekaterinburg, through the direct wire, they transmit the following: inform Moscow that the court agreed with Filippov for military reasons is urgent, we can’t wait. If your opinion is the opposite, immediately out of turn tell me. Goloshchyokin, Safarov. Talk about it yourself with Yekaterinburg. "
                    The telegram was received in Moscow at 21 hours 22 minutes. By Moscow time. It took some time for the telegram to reach the addressees. Moreover, it must be taken into account: the telegraph was then not in the Kremlin, but on Myasnitskaya. We will not forget the time difference - it is two hours, that is, at the time of the adoption of the telegram in Yekaterinburg it was 23 hours 22 minutes. At this time, the Romanovs were already invited to go down to the execution room. We don’t know whether Lenin and Sverdlov got acquainted with the telegram before the first shots were fired, but we know that the telegram did not say anything about the family and servants, so at least blaming the Kremlin leaders for killing children
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 19: 11
                      +4
                      Quote: Turkestan
                      At this time, the Romanovs were already invited to go down to the execution room. We don’t know whether Lenin and Sverdlov got acquainted with the telegram before the first shots were fired, but we know that the telegram did not say anything about the family and servants, so at least blaming the Kremlin leaders for killing children

                      Opanki!
                      So after all, the Nazi criminals in Nyurberg also declared that I love dogs, and did not give orders for execution, while others shouted "I'm not guilty, I was forced-and-and ...".
                      Well, now you have to wait for rebuttals. After all, Volodenka Ulyanov was a good child, he lived for a ruble hedgehog on his own money, and did not sanction, and even more so did not order the execution of a tilition disagreeing with the Bolsheviks.
                      Yohany babai!
                  4. Postman
                    Postman 7 November 2013 21: 54
                    +3
                    Surely you can still lie more!
              2. apostrophe
                apostrophe 7 November 2013 11: 40
                -1
                What does this have to do with it? smile Or did the troubles go after the king was crushed? smile
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 57
                  -1
                  Quote: Apostrophe
                  What does this have to do with it?

                  And indeed, think of the shot, the same for the sake of the idea.
                  Quote: Apostrophe
                  Or did the troubles go after the king was crushed?

                  Whose money is the trouble and the names of troublemakers call.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 12: 01
                    +5
                    The main culprit of the troubles - N. Romanov
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 12: 24
                      +7
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      The main culprit of the troubles - N. Romanov

                      Well, yes, he's bloody wink But Lenin just killed half the country and that’s all. But for the country, for the people too wink
                      And to tell you minusers, by and large, there’s nothing. One minus, but it’s from anger, but for whom it’s easy now laughing
                      1. Was mammoth
                        Was mammoth 7 November 2013 12: 35
                        11
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Well, yes, he's bloody

                        That's right. And mind you, the people called him that before the revolution. Not just that the people give nicknames to rulers.
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        But Lenin just killed half the country and that's it

                        The "red" terror is a response to the "white" terror. The beginning of the civil war. Did you not have to answer? Not answered in 1991.
                      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 12: 48
                        +7
                        Quote: There was a mammoth
                        That's right. And mind you, the people called him that before the revolution. It's not just that the people give nicknames to rulers

                        it just does not show his dictatorial habits, and not his ability to lead, he received the nickname not for dispersal and oppression, but for events in connection with the coronation
                      3. Was mammoth
                        Was mammoth 7 November 2013 13: 03
                        0
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        he received the nickname not for dispersal and oppression but for events in connection with the coronation

                        Yes, you are almost right. Only then there was "Bloody Sunday" .... The list can be long.
                      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 13: 39
                        -2
                        it was after I talk about the nickname, subsequent events just confirm not the ability to lead, or maybe not the desire, but like most of his relatives.
                      5. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 13: 39
                        +1
                        it was after I talk about the nickname, subsequent events just confirm not the ability to lead, or maybe not the desire, but like most of his relatives.
                  2. Vlaleks48
                    Vlaleks48 8 November 2013 18: 28
                    +1
                    Learn history worthy! First there was genocide by origin, then inter-party showdowns, like the Socialist-Revolutionaries against the "Bolsheviks." And only then the "Red Terror" began to work publicly.
                    And the "gevolyutsionegs" made an enormous contribution to the fouling of their state, especially in the destruction of the peasantry and the nobility. And we see the deeds of the descendants of these ardent figures today!
                2. Vasilenko V
                  Vasilenko V 7 November 2013 13: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  But Lenin just killed half the country and that’s all. But for the country, for the people too

                  Shura Lenin appeared from the air or became possible thanks to the incompetent policy of the tsarist regime? !!!!
                3. Shaman 21101973
                  Shaman 21101973 7 November 2013 17: 45
                  +6
                  Alexander. For me, your position is clear. And you may be right in your own way ...
                  But you and I weren’t there in 17 ... The whole truth, we don’t know.
                  It must be admitted that the Bolsheviks (of whom there were not many in 17) were able to seize power, and hold it for more than 70 years. It is a fact.
                  Moreover, after the October Revolution, who and whose money just did not want to overthrow the power of the Bolsheviks. Was the intervention, civil war and blockade? It was. And this is the same fact. The people in the country supported whom? Bolsheviks. Fact.
                  Subsequently - the world recognized the USSR? Admitted. Fact.
                  What is the conversation then ???.
                  Can we talk about how many citizens of Russia and the former Soviet republics died in military conflicts after the collapse of the USSR? How did they divide and gain sovereignty? How was the public heritage privatized? ... How was democracy built ....?
                4. Pashhenko Nikolay
                  Pashhenko Nikolay 7 November 2013 18: 19
                  +1
                  Do you say Lenin interrupted? Or is it the White Guard that still interrupted the people?
                5. Danilka
                  Danilka 7 November 2013 21: 37
                  0
                  EVERYBODY was killing. Everyone considered himself right in the matter. Everything depends on the point of view. Example in the 40s. For the Nazis, the capture of living space, but for us the protection of the great
              3. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 19: 17
                +7
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                But Lenin just killed half the country and that’s all. But for the country, for the people too

                Well, kAnEchna!
                And Comrade Kedrov did not create the first concentration camps near Kholmogory, and did not give his friend Plastinina, on her birthday, the right to be shot at her choice.
                But the problem with Kronstadt sailors is still a problem: they were white and fluffy, when the officers and admirals were half-dead under the ice, and finally got out of control, the deputies had to storm Kronstadt ...
                Lord You enlighten these unfortunate ...
              4. Aleksys2
                Aleksys2 7 November 2013 20: 54
                +2
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Well, kAnEchna!
                And Comrade Kedrov did not create the first concentration camps near Kholmogory,

                Is this, as I understand it, about the 1920 year? You have some kind of selective memory: I remember here, I don’t remember here, here we wrapped the fish, but this was not at all since it was so convenient for me. The first concentration camps in Russia were organized by the anti-Bolshevik forces you loved so much, namely:
                Mudyug concentration camp, created by representatives of foreign military intervention in the north of Russia on Mudyug island in the summer of 1918. After the anti-Bolshevik coup in Arkhangelsk and the landing of the Entente, the counterintelligence department of the Allied forces headquarters and the military registration service under the headquarters of the commander of the Russian troops of the Northern Region organized a search for the leaders and employees of Soviet institutions, communists, members of the poor committees, commanders and fighters of the Red Army. The detainees were taken to the Arkhangelsk prison and other places of temporary detention. As a measure of punishment, the execution or sending to hard labor was used. Prominent representatives of the Soviet regime, falling into the hands of whites, were considered by them as hostages. Already on 13 of August 1918 of the year, the leadership of the Northern Region sent a radiogram to Moscow to the Council of People's Commissars, which, if repressive measures were taken against anti-Bolshevik figures in Soviet Russia, a similar measure would immediately befall the Bolsheviks arrested in Arkhangelsk and Murmansk. This statement was published in local newspapers.
                Yokang Prison - a prison for political prisoners, created by the interventionists and existed from September 1919 to February 1920. Extremely harsh conditions reigned in prison - torture, hunger, constant illness, mass executions.
              5. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 7 November 2013 21: 42
                -1
                Quote: Aleksys2
                Is this, as I understand it, about the 1920 year? You have some kind of selective memory: I remember here, I don’t remember here, here we wrapped the fish, but this was not at all since it was so convenient for me. The first concentration camps in Russia were organized by the anti-Bolshevik forces you loved so much


                And you can’t convince them anymore, they won the Chinese mercenaries and Latvians, but they don’t notice the fact that they’re not comfortable.

                ... On October 18 of 2013, in 15: 00, a solemn meeting was held on Novobosornaya Square to mark the unveiling of the monument to the underground Bolsheviks who were preparing an armed uprising in Tomsk against Kolchak’s dictatorship and who died in the 1919 year. Representatives of the city administration, deputies of the City Duma, as well as veterans of the Great Patriotic War and relatives of revolutionaries were invited to the event ...

                They taught the history of their native country from films like Admiral and a hedgehog with him.

                Happy Comrade! drinks
              6. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 22: 25
                +4
                Quote: Aleksys2
                Is this, as I understand it, about 1920?

                Quote: Aleksys2
                The first concentration camps in Russia were organized by the anti-Bolshevik forces you loved so much, namely:
                Moody Concentration Camp

                Quote: Aleksys2
                in the north of Russia on the island of Mudyug in the summer of 1918

                Quote: Karlsonn
                They taught the history of their native country from films like Admiral and a hedgehog with him.

                For the orphans and the wretched, who have read (but do not know) the history of the North according to V. Pikul’s books, I explain.
                When your idol Ulyanov informed the whole world with the Decree on Peace (!?) And the seizure of power in Petrograd, adventurers, bandits and rapists immediately revived on the ground. In Arkhangelsk, one of the main lovers of freebies and cruelty was Comrade Kedrov. By the beginning of 1918, the concentration camp was created in Kholmogory, as a mockery of M. Lomonosov’s small homeland.
                By the time the British and Amers landed in Murmansk (Nikolaev-on-Murman) and Arkhangelsk, Kedrov and his comrades sent more than a dozen old administrations to the world, or simply those who they didn’t like, whose good and values ​​they liked . After all, you LUMPENAM work zapadlo, you can only rob and write vulgar posts.
              7. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 7 November 2013 22: 50
                +2
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                When your idol Ulyanov informed the whole world with the Decree on Peace (!?) And the seizure of power in Petrograd, adventurers, bandits and rapists immediately revived on the ground.



                I forgot the criminals whom Kerensky released from prison.


                Quote: stalkerwalker
                For the orphans and the wretched, who have read (but do not know) the history of the North according to V. Pikul’s books, I explain.


                oh how! among us appeared not gray and not! fellow
                Glory to Cthulhu !!! Now let's not get lost!

                ... After all, you LUMPENAM work zapadlo, you can only rob and write vulgar posts ...

                What? White bone? Inadequate? what
              8. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 22: 56
                +3
                Quote: Karlsonn
                What? White bone? Inadequate?

                In, the COMMISSAR VOICE erupted!
                Was he listed as a political instructor?
              9. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 8 November 2013 01: 03
                +7
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                In, the COMMISSAR VOICE erupted!
                Was he listed as a political instructor?


                I have not only that everything in the family is red, so is the grandfather of the security officer and father of the security officer.
                And unlike some, I did not swear an oath.
                And when I look at some who, when it was beneficial both at the Department of the History of the CPSU and the Department of Marxist-Leninist Philosophy and Scientific Communism, they scribbled the graffiti in a sweaty palm, and when it became unprofitable, forgetting about the oaths of fidelity with guan prevented the country that had grown up and learned , treated and everything is free --- I have no illusions about such people. Such people - a feather fly, will blow the wind and the Motherland for 200 of sorts of beer and sausages will be sold, another wind and a ridge will blow like the Germans will throw in the 30's; from them, besides analyzes, from entomological interest there is nothing to take. request Cosmopolitan consumers, their homeland is where the pope is warmer.
                It's boring to talk to them.
              10. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 01: 27
                +3
                Quote: Karlsonn
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                In, the COMMISSAR VOICE erupted!
                Was he listed as a political instructor?

                I have not only that everything in the family is red and so is the grandfather of the security officer, and the father of the security officer

                Who cares?
                Quote: Karlsonn
                And when I look at some people who when it was beneficial both at the Department of the History of the CPSU and the Department of Marxist-Leninist Philosophy and Scientific Communism, they scribbled a record in a sweaty palm, and when it became unprofitable, having forgotten about the oaths of fidelity with guan’s, they interfere with the country,

                No need to equate Russia with your filthy Sabantuy.
                Whose "toggle" would moan ...
              11. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 8 November 2013 16: 35
                +4
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Who cares?


                You can not understand.

                Quote: stalkerwalker
                No need to equate Russia with your filthy Sabantuy.


                Russia just soaked lovers of crunchy French bread.

                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Whose "toggle" would moan ...


                I expected this kind of boorish answer.
              12. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 08: 59
                +3
                Quote: Karlsonn
                I expected this kind of boorish answer.

                Let your drugan-Chekists kiss you in the ass, so polite ...
                Neo-Bolshevism is worse than a disease, because not treated. Newly-born followers of executioners like Lenin and Pol Pot are ready to arrange the genocide of their people in order to achieve their GHOSTAL GOALS. LGBT activists and commies-Leninists are brothers in spirit, because there is nothing human in them, just the pleasure of what is being created and complete indifference to the consequences.
        2. Shaman 21101973
          Shaman 21101973 8 November 2013 13: 02
          +4
          Well, if that, then the political officers during the war (WWII), the first went on the attack and raised their fighters by their example ..
        3. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 09: 04
          +3
          Quote: Shaman 21101973
          Well, if that, then the political officers during the war (WWII), the first went on the attack and raised their fighters by their example ..

          Do not touch the memory of grandfathers and fathers in the Great Patriotic War! You are LAZY to write the name of the war completely, and everyone is scurrying around with comments.
  3. Gorinich
    Gorinich 8 November 2013 10: 47
    +3
    "After all, you, LUMPENS, work zapadlo, you can only rob and write vulgar posts." Look you are a hard worker, these are the bastards who believe that only they are the navel of the earth and destroyed the country several times. At 14-17, when the massacre began, at 91, when they did not give a damn about all their vows to the country and began to simply steal. "Worker" fucking ...
  4. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 10: 52
    +3
    Quote: Gorinich
    "After all, you, LUMPENS, work zapadlo, you can only rob and write vulgar posts." Look you are a hard worker, these are the bastards who believe that only they are the navel of the earth and destroyed the country several times. At 14-17, when the massacre began, at 91, when they did not give a damn about all their vows to the country and began to simply steal. "Worker" fucking ...

    I work ... I don’t see my family for half a year.
    And people like you, marginals, just to stick to the udder, and sing songs about their shitty exclusivity.
  5. Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 8 November 2013 16: 37
    +4
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    And people like you, marginals, just to stick to the udder, and sing songs about their shitty exclusivity.


    Is it a habit to be rude to strangers or is a hangover affecting?
  6. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 09: 03
    +3
    Quote: Karlsonn
    Is it a habit to be rude to strangers or is a hangover affecting?

    Did you pour me?
    Your name is NOBODY, your place is ANYWHERE.
    Put things in order in Kiev, Ukraine, for starters, and then scoop into the Russian Kalash ranks if they succeed (which is unlikely)
    Advisers are bad ...
  7. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 12: 31
    +3
    Quote: Gorinich
    "After all, you, LUMPENS, work zapadlo, you can only rob and write vulgar posts." Look you are a hard worker, these are the bastards who believe that only they are the navel of the earth and destroyed the country several times. At 14-17, when the massacre began, at 91, when they did not give a damn about all their vows to the country and began to simply steal. "Worker" fucking ...

    Has your country been dragged away? Prosrali!
    Nikitkin glory wanted glory?
    Hold on
  8. Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 8 November 2013 16: 31
    +1
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Has your country been dragged away? Prosrali!


    For that you stood on the sidelines.
  9. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 08: 50
    +3
    Quote: Karlsonn
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Has your country been dragged away? Prosrali!


    For that you stood on the sidelines.


    What were you doing on Maidan?
    And now, only on the forum can you throw shit?
    You would communicate with Janek as you are "heroic" here.
  10. Passer
    Passer 7 November 2013 20: 30
    +7
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    But Lenin just killed half the country and all.

    A strange figure: half the country. Lenin - killed half the country, Stalin - shot half the country, while under Stalin half the country was sitting, and half the country was guarding them.
  11. Danilka
    Danilka 7 November 2013 21: 34
    -2
    Power is easier to hold than to hold!
  • Passer
    Passer 7 November 2013 19: 58
    +1
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    The main culprit of the troubles - N. Romanov

    Plus, beloved by our liberals, the reformer P. Stolypin
    1. Passer
      Passer 8 November 2013 05: 46
      +3
      Oh, the liberals minded: they touched the idol!
      I will not argue, I only wish: that all liberals move around the country exclusively in Stolypin cars.
  • Passer
    Passer 7 November 2013 19: 58
    0
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    The main culprit of the troubles - N. Romanov

    Plus, beloved by our liberals, the reformer P. Stolypin
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  • Gur
    Gur 7 November 2013 12: 30
    +8
    Dear, the king was not overthrown by the Bolsheviks, he was overthrown by the ESR, and his inner circle forced the king to abandon the throne and not the Bolsheviks.
    1. Motors1991
      Motors1991 7 November 2013 20: 00
      +3
      You’re mistaken, the cadets were overthrown by the cadets under the supervision of the commander of the North-Western (if I’m not mistaken) Ruzsky front, for which this venerable “revolutionary” received a bullet in the forehead from the grateful Bolsheviks, but that was later, and at first general glee, red bows, all as expected.
  • Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 7 November 2013 18: 43
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yes, and Lenin only shot him along with his family.


    The loss is small.
    1. Postman
      Postman 7 November 2013 21: 58
      +4
      IT IS BAD.
  • Gur
    Gur 7 November 2013 12: 27
    +1
    You can only justify the current acts, it seems like it should be so, but not you and I can not give a true assessment of those events and their predecessors. I think that there were people who were no more stupid than you and me, and the people, no matter how neglected they were in terms of education or political education, would not have been so easy when brother and brother went to war, father to son, son to father, There must be good reason. This is the first answer, the second so go and dig in all those who now rule Russia, who shamelessly sell and exploit it at the direction of the obvious or imaginary USA, with the money of the world elite, who knows at whose expense a banquet from various NGOs and does not do anything significant .
  • Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 7 November 2013 18: 40
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Similarly, I also saw him in the grave and those who stir up the revolution in Russia with foreign money


    Do not make comrade my slippers!

    What is November 7 without talking about the fact that the revolution was paid for by the Germans, and Lenin was a German spy who interfered with the bright path of Russia along the bourgeois highway of civilization. In fact, this gum has long been revolving around the well-known complex of forgeries like the notorious "Sisson documents".

    Who cares about the topic, refer to the famous works:

    http://leninism.su/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3683:nemeczkie-d
    engi-i-russkaya-revolyucziya & catid = 30: library & Itemid = 37 - German money and the Russian revolution
    http://www.alternativy.ru/ru/node/146 - Миф о немецком золоте
    http://militera.lib.ru/research/sobolev_gl/index.html - Русская революция и немецкое золото.
  • cumastra1
    cumastra1 7 November 2013 19: 40
    +3
    The rams walk in a row
    Beat the drums
    they give skin
    the rams themselves ....
    (V.V. Vysotsky)
    I wonder how he felt about revolutionary upheavals.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 20: 27
      +4
      Quote: cumastra1
      I wonder how he felt about revolutionary upheavals.

      IT CANNOT BE HIMSELF OMITED LOW, to sing about the joyful day of the calendar ...
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 8 November 2013 01: 14
        +1
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        IT CANNOT BE HIMSELF OMITED LOW, to sing about the joyful day of the calendar ...


        You do not meddle in our garden with your physiognomy!



        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 01: 29
          +3
          Quote: Karlsonn
          You do not meddle in our garden with your physiognomy!

          Which garden? Landfill ...
  • T80UM1
    T80UM1 7 November 2013 12: 24
    +4
    I am joining! With his own hands he would send the bourgeois to the other world!
    1. Postman
      Postman 7 November 2013 21: 59
      +3
      LIKE WHAT YOU ALSO PREFER FOREIGNERS.
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 7 November 2013 22: 54
        +1
        Quote: Postman
        LIKE WHAT YOU ALSO PREFER FOREIGNERS.


        How do you know?
  • Arberes
    Arberes 7 November 2013 10: 47
    +9
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In the coffin I saw such exemptions, the country drowned in blood.

    Yes it was a deal! The wild stratification of society and war leads to such cataclysms!
    We already have a wild bundle, God forbid, wait for the war?
    History is useful in that it draws lessons from it! This applies primarily to those holding power.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 18
      -7
      Quote: Arberes
      History is useful in that it draws lessons from it.

      Hi Vito! Judging by most comments, the history of people does not teach anything request
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 11: 41
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        human history teaches nothing

        Can you tell me what she personally taught you?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 12: 00
          -3
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Can you tell me what she personally taught you?

          Do not dissemble and write the truth. This is so for you, for the article.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 12: 03
            0
            well, write the truth, why are you lying claiming that on the night of July 16-17, 1918, the Russian emperor was shot
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 12: 26
              +5
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              well, write the truth, why are you lying claiming that on the night of July 16-17, 1918, the Russian emperor was shot

              Get fucked up, it's like losing conscience, what would you write fool This is not even possible to comment, you are not just a liar, you .............. negative At least you can argue with others, but with you in an emergency !!!!!!!!
              1. T80UM1
                T80UM1 7 November 2013 12: 32
                +8
                There was no emperor of Russia, there was citizen Romanov who voluntarily abdicated the throne ... Correct me, maybe I'm wrong?
                1. klavyr
                  klavyr 7 November 2013 13: 27
                  +1
                  There was no emperor of Russia, there was citizen Romanov who voluntarily abdicated the throne ... Correct me, maybe I'm wrong?
                  - he was emperor, emperor and remained; and with regards to his renunciation, this is a fake, in which everyone who wants it believes. The shooting of the imperial family is an indirect confirmation of this.
                  1. Aleksys2
                    Aleksys2 7 November 2013 13: 35
                    +2
                    Quote: klavyr
                    he was emperor, emperor and remained; and with regards to his renunciation, it’s a fake,

                    The abdication of the emperor Nicholas II. 2 March 1917 years Typewriting. In the lower right corner with a pencil, the signature of Nicholas II: Nicholas; in the lower left corner in black ink on top of a pencil is an assurance inscription by V. B. Frederiks's hand: Minister of the Imperial Court, Adjutant General Count Frederiks.
                  2. klavyr
                    klavyr 7 November 2013 14: 21
                    0
                    fake, and you 2 for knowing your story
                  3. Aleksys2
                    Aleksys2 7 November 2013 15: 23
                    0
                    Well, I seem to know history, I know several orders of magnitude better than you (although I have never considered myself an expert on history).
                    We will carry out a small educational program specially for you:
                    1. 2 (15) on March 1917, Nikolai 2 abdicated in favor of his brother Mikhail Alexandrovich.
                    3 March 1917 year. At 14 hours 56 minutes on the road to Mogilyov from Sirotino station, Nikolai sent the Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich a telegram: “Petrograd. His Imperial Majesty Michael the Second. The events of recent days have made me decide to irrevocably take this extreme step. Forgive me if I upset you and that I did not have time to warn you. I will remain forever a faithful and faithful brother. I sincerely pray to God to help you and your homeland. Nicky. "
                    2. Grand Duke Mikhail Alexandrovich did not accept the throne:
                    A heavy burden was placed on me by the will of my brother, who handed me the Imperial All-Russian Throne in a year of unparalleled war and popular unrest.
                    Inspired by the unanimity with all the people that the highest is the good of our Homeland, I made a firm decision in that case to accept the Supreme Power, if that is the will of our great people, which should be popularly voted through their representatives in the Constituent Assembly, to establish a new government and new Basic laws of the Russian State.
                    Therefore, in invoking the blessing of God, I ask all citizens of the Russian Power to submit to the Provisional Government, on the initiative of the State Duma, having arisen and endowed with all power, henceforth before the Constituent Assembly convened as soon as possible on the basis of universal, direct, equal and secret ballot by its decision about the way of government will express the will of the people.
                    3 / III - 1917 Michael.


                    3. The fact of the abdication of Nicholas 2 from the throne is confirmed by many, and not only allegedly "fake", documents and memoirs of eyewitnesses of those events.
                  4. klavyr
                    klavyr 8 November 2013 00: 30
                    0
                    Well, I seem to know history, I know several orders of magnitude better than you (although I have never considered myself an expert on history).
                    We will carry out a small educational program specially for you:
                    thank you, enlightened the ignoramus, in your spare time look here http://russbalt.ucoz.ru/publ/27-1-0-360
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 13: 36
              +1
              Quote: klavyr
              he was emperor, emperor and remained; and with regards to his renunciation, this is a fake, in which everyone who wants it believes. The shooting of the imperial family is an indirect confirmation of this.

              the shooting is not a confirmation, he could become a symbol for this and they destroyed everyone, but okay, let's say it's a fake he didn’t renounce it, don’t tell WHY THE WHOLE FOLLOWING FAMILY OF THE ROMANOVs ate this, why NONE of them led the white movement after the murder of the Romanov family , headed by all admirals, chieftains, generals, but NOT ROMANOV? !!!!!!
            3. klavyr
              klavyr 7 November 2013 14: 22
              -1
              argue with you - no nerves enough
            4. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 14: 27
              0
              so you don’t argue if I’m right to refute, well, if of course you can
            5. klavyr
              klavyr 7 November 2013 15: 07
              0
              It’s impossible to argue with you, so I don’t argue
            6. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 15: 14
              +3
              you expressed your point of view, the abdication of a fake, you can not argue it.
              your opponents express their arguments to you, I won’t be able to say good or not, in response to this you accuse your opponent of not being able to argue, where is the logic ?!
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 7 November 2013 14: 31
        +5
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        let's say it's a fake, he didn’t deny

        But for some reason, precisely because of this fake, all the ruling houses of Europe - the "relatives", so to say, refused to save Romanov. How did they state there? "We could organize a special expedition and save Tsar Romanov, but we are not obliged to save the nobleman Romanov."
        (And mind you, this was said with bitterness by the chamberlain of the Court of Her Highness, who was the grandfather of my classmate, and sometimes talked to us, "so that they know the truth")
      3. Fin
        Fin 7 November 2013 17: 11
        +9
        Quote: Egoza
        But for some reason, precisely because of this fake, all the ruling houses of Europe - the "relatives", so to say, refused to save Romanov. How did they state there? "We could organize a special expedition and save Tsar Romanov, but we are not obliged to save the nobleman Romanov."

        Yes, they did not need him either as a king or as a nobleman. Excuse yourself invented.
    2. Tver
      Tver 7 November 2013 14: 51
      -1
      The bitter truth - none of the imperial family wanted to dress up at least a little for the sake of Russia. Probably because they were Gottorp ...
  • T80UM1
    T80UM1 7 November 2013 14: 35
    -2
    You can call a dead man 1000 times alive, from this he will not rise ...
  • Gur
    Gur 8 November 2013 13: 00
    +2
    She taught us, but the power of those in power apparently doesn’t ... We also don’t want bloody upheavals, but dear to you, whoever is stolen and who don’t give up the power, even if the Communists win the election, actually they really are not will not allow to power, as this can end badly for those who have stolen power for so many years with or without power. And what do you suggest, sit and wait for the manna from heaven ..? Or do you have a solution, without a blood, voluntary transfer of power? Or do we have to beg the authorities to turn before us and back to the forest ??
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 7 November 2013 10: 57
    10
    In the 23 years of democracy, far more people have died, the civil war is on and there is no end to it! Poreoehai is strange - some graveyards instead of villages remained .... And if not for the revolution, then Russia would not exist for a long time! Read Churchill! That's why education is being destroyed - cattle is easier to manage - cattle is easier to manage
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 18
      -6
      Quote: vezunchik
      . And if not for the revolution, then Russia would not exist for a long time! Read Churchill! In

      So read yourself Churchill, since he is your authority.
    2. Arberes
      Arberes 7 November 2013 11: 44
      +1
      Quote: vezunchik
      . And if not for the revolution, then Russia would not exist for a long time!

      History does not tolerate subjunctive moods. Who knows, maybe if it were not for the revolution with its rivers of blood and devastation, we would have overtaken America in terms of development?
      The Stolypin reforms already began to give their first shoots, but the war and the ensuing revolution changed the course of events and the history of our state!
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 11: 35
    +2
    Well, in a coffin, not in a coffin, but it was and as correctly written in the article, not the Bolsheviks began.
    everyone tried from the damned Romanov family to the liberals
    1. Aleksys2
      Aleksys2 7 November 2013 13: 18
      +4
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      and as correctly written in the article, not the Bolsheviks began.

      On December 3, on December 1917, a special conference was convened with the participation of the United States, Britain, France and its allied countries, at which a decision was made to delimit zones of interests in the territories of the former Russian Empire and establish contacts with national democratic governments. The Caucasus and Cossack regions were designated the zone of influence of England, France - Ukraine and Crimea. On 1 on January 1918, Japan introduced its warships into the port of Vladivostok under the pretext of protecting its subjects. On 8 on January 1918, US President Wilson, in his letter to Congress, declared the need for the withdrawal of German troops from Russian territories, the recognition of the independence of the Baltic states and Ukraine with the possibility of further unification with Great Russia on a federal basis.
      The very start of the civil war is often explained by the uprising of the Czechoslovak corps - former soldiers of the Austro-Hungarian army, who crossed over to Russia and were evacuated to France via Vladivostok. In addition, the presence of interventionists in the rear of the White armies and their control over the internal political situation there (when considering foreign intervention often comes down to the intervention of the Entente) is considered the reason why the civil war lasted for a rather long time.
      The policy of "white terror" caused such discontent among the population that, along with other factors, served as one of the reasons for the defeat of the White movement in the Civil War.
      According to some reports, about 300 thousand people died from the "white terror". This number includes both victims of extrajudicial killings of white troops and governments (approximately 111 of thousands of people), as well as victims of foreign invaders and interventionists and victims of national border regimes that arose as a result of the collapse of the Russian Empire.
  • badger1974
    badger1974 7 November 2013 11: 50
    +2
    interestingly, and until the 17th everyone lived peacefully and happily, because there was no shameful Russo-Japanese War after which the statistics of losses have still not really been given by historians, and the lousy trenches with air from chlorine to the 1st world identity all in full, the losses are still unknown, in both cases they are stunning, but there is no exact data, do not talk nonsense
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  • hook
    hook 7 November 2013 16: 21
    +1
    Only a bloodless corpse can be seen in the coffin. The sign of the Land of Soviets is a scarlet cloth with symbols of labor and military luck. The scarlet color is the color of oxygenated blood - the color of a busy life. Are we worthy of such a flag now ?!
    1. JonnyT
      JonnyT 7 November 2013 16: 42
      -7
      The flag of the USSR was invented by Jews
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 7 November 2013 18: 59
        +5
        Quote: JonnyT
        The flag of the USSR was invented by Jews


        And what? request
        I’ll open the terrible --- Einstein is also a Jew!
        Comrade, I suspect that in the light of this discovery, will you now throw your computer out the window? How to materialize the machinations of Zionism?
        After the computer, don’t forget to get rid of everything that has been done on the basis of the sophistication of modern physics. hi
      2. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 7 November 2013 20: 13
        +6
        Quote: JonnyT
        The flag of the USSR was invented by Jews


        it’s so possible you can agree on anything and get to it!
        it turns out that the flag of the Nazis (swastika) was invented by the Slovenes
        1. regsSSSR
          regsSSSR 7 November 2013 20: 17
          +3
          for example, a swastika on a bill of the Russian Empire
          1. regsSSSR
            regsSSSR 7 November 2013 20: 22
            +2
            ------------------
            1. JonnyT
              JonnyT 8 November 2013 08: 43
              +1
              The swastika is a purely Russian symbol, a very strong amulet! This symbol has a very strong energy aimed at protecting the Slavs ...... the enemies of the Rus specifically made the Slavs fight against their own amulet ..... thereby greatly weakening its energy supply .. it was kind of well organized inform war against ancient traditions and foundations ... apparently they so avenged the humiliation of Svyatoslav ..... Think for yourself .... who brought Hitler to power, who gave him money for tanks and the army ... sent all this diverse a crowd of Slavs in order to destroy, who secretly helped the Nazis? ....

              These same forces made a revolution in 17, in 91 ..... and now they want to destroy us ........ If you want to continue to believe that no one wants to destroy you and your loved ones ..... believe in traditions that are foreign to the Slavs ........ forget the memory of great ancestors ....... you are mankurt ..... one who does not remember his past has no future!

              ps
              Comrade, I suspect that in the light of this discovery, will you now throw your computer out the window? How to materialize the machinations of Zionism?


              No, your suspicions are wrong ... I enjoy the benefits of civilization, no matter what nation they came up with ....
              Need to be able to distinguish from the finger ...... The machinations of Zionism from ordinary progress
          2. Sugar Honeyovich
            Sugar Honeyovich 9 November 2013 19: 42
            0
            I never heard that there were banknotes of 250 rubles. Not a linden tree?
  • Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 7 November 2013 18: 34
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In the coffin I saw such exemptions, the country drowned in blood.


    Omitting who exactly flooded the country, I want to note:
    - Probably to live well in an illiterate, lapotny and backward country?
    Duc is not long left to wait - we will return to this soon.
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 18: 48
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    In the coffin I saw such exemptions, the country drowned in blood.

    So the History of Russia is being rewritten again. Is it possible that the "edited" chapter is from there? laughing
    Although, of course, not to laugh.
    I read further the neo-Bolshevik pearl, read ... And rolled 100, then 150 ...
    What the hell is the Tatar-Mongol yoke ?! In our country, the Civil War has not ended, it turns out. Lenin and Co. are literally the saviors of the country ... no, it’s impossible to read such a half-liter ...
    Now...
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 28
      0
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      Lenin and Co. are the direct saviors of the country ...


      Yes, savior.
      1. Postman
        Postman 7 November 2013 22: 02
        +4
        More professor Pavlov, and Russia is a dog for experiments.
    2. Gur
      Gur 8 November 2013 13: 14
      +2
      Yes, you’re right, our civil war didn’t end, or rather, it flared up again after August 91, and after all, no one is trying to try and the gap between the parties is only getting worse, because no one wants to take the story as it is, put an end to it and say that, we live from these as one country and a people. But no, not only is social justice and the gap between the layers of society in the country either repentance or the Strasbourg tribunal over the Communist Party are imposed on us, then films are shot do not understand where the main leitmotif is the bloody Chekists, KGB, NKVD and others, white lambs of God, and as if there were no other unrest before the revolution, there was no famine and the annihilation of the Russian people, everything is fluffy there. What is the day of reconciliation? What did you celebrate on the eve? ... So you can sleep too
  • Nayhas
    Nayhas 7 November 2013 10: 18
    -3
    Quote: GUR
    On this day, in 1917, we were given a chance to break away from our trough,

    Let me name by name those who "gave a chance": Walter Nicolai, Parvus Alexander Lvovich ...
    1. Gur
      Gur 7 November 2013 10: 26
      +4
      And you list those who are now building a bright capitalistic future for you?
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 7 November 2013 11: 14
        0
        Quote: GUR
        And you list those who are now building a bright capitalistic future for you?

        You skip to another topic, the current "builders" did not arrange the October coup. BUT. But they are directly related to those who did it. They are all communists.
        By the way, the organizers of the collapse of the USSR from the Communists of the Stalin era. Yakovlev A.N. joined the CPSU in 1944, Shevarnadze E.A. joined the CPSU in 1948, M. Gorbachev joined the CPSU in 1952. If you noticed all of them joined the CPSU (B.) / CPSU while Stalin had already cleared the party of the Trotskyists and other Bukharinites, i.e. all of them are Stalinist communists.
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 7 November 2013 11: 47
          13
          Quote: Nayhas
          They are all communists.

          No. They are not communists, they are opportunists.
          My father was a communist. He joined the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks in Stalingrad. Our family also celebrates its birthday on November 7th. Father always made his first toast to the Great October Socialist Revolution, and then his Birthday was celebrated.
        2. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 7 November 2013 13: 38
          +4
          They are corrupt whores, not Stalinists
        3. Proud.
          Proud. 7 November 2013 13: 50
          +1
          Quote: Nayhas
          By the way, the organizers of the collapse of the USSR from the Communists of the Stalin era. Yakovlev A.N. joined the CPSU in 1944, Shevarnadze E.A. joined the CPSU in 1948, M. Gorbachev joined the CPSU in 1952. If you noticed all of them joined the CPSU (B.) / CPSU while Stalin had already cleared the party of the Trotskyists and other Bukharinites, i.e. all of them are Stalinist communists.

          Not .., party members-shifters. ProfessionalAnal officials Batono Shevardnadze, "on the move" began to work as an instructor, and not in the shooting business, but as a Komsomol. Yakovlev falls out of the ranks a little, even at the front he was six months demobilized due to illness. , who did not study at the Higher School of Artists, and hop .., an instructor of the propaganda and agitation department. Life was a success-professionalAnal official, without a rod. Gorbach, finally "Hirow." , "plowed winter plowing, threshed barley." Recommendations were given by the director and teachers. Try not to give. I also knew one lad, in the spring of 17, after graduating from the Evpatoria study, at the age of 15 and a half he became a candidate for the party and remained in Evpatoria as a sergeant instructor. I remembered one thing about him - he led everyone there were no obvious friends-comrades, no obvious enemies also.
        4. dmb
          dmb 7 November 2013 14: 00
          +4
          So understand people like you. The communists took power from the bourgeoisie, they are bad. Individual members of the CPSU gave power to the bourgeoisie, also bad. I just want to ask, as in an old obscene joke about a male brothel and a number of disgruntled women: "So what ... you need it then." What could you offer in return for the October Revolution at that moment to preserve Russia as a country, and what do you propose to do now. I admit it. that you are satisfied with the current state of affairs, but then how do you differ from Shuvalov, Serdyukov and Livanov? Or Nemtsov, Sobchak and Navalny? The latter, after all, are also dissatisfied not with the existing state of affairs, but with the fact that instead of them others have come to the trough of the state budget. If a revolution happens (and it will, because this is the natural course of history), they all, including Putin and Shoigu, will be in the same camp.
          1. Gur
            Gur 8 November 2013 13: 26
            +1
            I do not agree ... ik
            With whom I am sorry I would like to know with Scoutsky or whatever it is ...
            Yes, with both, they write and write ... you just need to take everything and share ...
            So I knew ...))))))
            But what is there to offer, everything is clear as God's day, everything from above lies. To return to the state the right to basic means of production, to the development and extraction of land resources, medicine, education, to return GOST, one law for all, to cancel the results of privatization, but God, why go far just see how Belarus lives, but not richly, but it lives thanks economy, not two pipes. And houses are being built, roads are in order, forests are not burning, land is being cultivated, triple buses, buses, elevators, shoes, clothes, and everything else is good, and what they get oil from us at lower prices, so they have lower fuel prices than in Russia and Kazakhstan (how much then are our margins laid there?).
        5. hook
          hook 7 November 2013 16: 49
          +3
          Listen to this. They burned out (burned out) under Stalin. Under him (Stalin), a tremendous (not recorded in the history of mankind) economic uplift plus science. The fragments of enthusiasts chose Khrushchev, Brezhnev — he was still a communist — and then a couple of deaths and a traitor Gorbachev — they burned out even when Stalin demanded that they (fragile souls) be selfless service to the people.
        6. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 05
          +2
          Quote: Nayhas
          the present "builders" did not suit the October coup. BUT. But they are directly related to those who did it. They are all communists.


          They are not communists, they are pedae ​​.....!

          Quote: Nayhas
          If you noticed they all joined the CPSU (b) / CPSU at the time when Stalin had already cleared the party of the Trotskyists and other Bukharinites, i.e. all of them are Stalinist communists.


          warm with sharp should not be confused.
    2. Gur
      Gur 7 November 2013 10: 33
      12
      And still like you a chance, while only a chance gave Gorbachev, Yeltsin and K as well as the US State Department. And I think that soon very soon it will remain for you only a chance.
      1. hook
        hook 7 November 2013 22: 25
        -1
        And also take a couple of zinc and a machine gun on the AK-47-7.62- ONLY so that our wives and children are not unwound in the intestines on the fence.
    3. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 03
      -1
      Quote: Nayhas
      Let me name by name those who "gave a chance": Walter Nicolai, Parvus Alexander Lvovich ...


      Gruzdev called himself get in the body!
      Until you name everyone who gave a chance - not a shield !!!
      So let's list, for a start, all the fighters of the First Horse.
      Waiting for. bully
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 7 November 2013 10: 50
    +7
    Happy Holidays, dear comrades!
  • T80UM1
    T80UM1 7 November 2013 12: 23
    +6
    Happy holiday! My great-grandfather fought for the Reds!
    1. Postman
      Postman 7 November 2013 22: 03
      +1
      My condolences.
  • Postman
    Postman 7 November 2013 21: 48
    0
    Well you were brainwashed. "For everyone's happiness." Build yours first.
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 7 November 2013 22: 22
      +1
      Quote: Postman
      Well you brainwashed.


      Look who's Talking.

      Quote: Postman
      "For everyone's happiness." Build yours first.


      Don’t worry about us.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 8 November 2013 01: 07
    0
    Happy holiday ... tears welling up ... grandfather remembered ... Hurray !!!!
  • Egoza
    Egoza 7 November 2013 09: 16
    29
    I congratulate everyone on the road of the USSR, with a great holiday - BIRTHDAY OF THE SOVIET UNION!
    And again the fight is going on!
    Communists and opposition clash under the walls of Parliament
    Under the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine a number of mass actions and rallies are also planned.
    A number of political parties and public organizations submitted applications to the Kyiv City State Administration for mass rallies on Thursday, November 7.
    According to the Main Directorate for Internal Policy and Public Relations of the Kyiv City State Administration, the Kiev City Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine has applied for the 10th action "Our Future is Socialism". According to the submitted application, the communists plan to gather at 9.30 am on Bessarabskaya Square in Kiev, from where they will proceed along Khreshchatyk to European Square and rise to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. According to the plan, the action should end at 14.00.
    At the same time, a number of mass actions and rallies are also planned under the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.
    So, the application for the 5-thousandth action under the walls of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine filed a Kiev city organization "HIT". Also VO "Svoboda" announced a protest action under the walls of the parliament numbering 350 people.
    In addition, the Kiev city organization of the VO "Batkivshchyna" has submitted an application to hold a 5th event under the walls of the Verkhovna Rada in support of bills on the treatment of ex-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko and the European integration of Ukraine.
    Ibid announced a rally in support of an agreement with the European Union of a thousand people "European Party of Ukraine".
    At the same time, The Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists has submitted an application for a rally demanding to ban the Communist Party of Ukraine under the administration of the President of Ukraine will be. 100 people are declared to participate in the event.
    http://www.segodnya.ua/politics/pnews/kommunisty-i-oppoziciya-shlestnutsya-pod-s
    tenami-rady-473456.html
    XXXX
    We can add that many (on social networks) gathered to go to support the Communists, even if they had not previously advocated for them.
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    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 7 November 2013 09: 46
      +6
      Quote: Egoza
      I congratulate everyone on the road of the USSR, with a great holiday - BIRTHDAY OF THE SOVIET UNION!
      And again the fight is going on!

      We will win.
    3. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 12
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      And again the fight is going on!
      Communists and opposition clash under the walls of Parliament


      Kiev, autumn, 2013 year.

      http://komsomolua.org/item.xhtml?id=1433 - по ссылке полный фотоотчет. fellow
  • George
    George 7 November 2013 09: 22
    20
    I REMEMBER.
    Happy Holiday!
    1. Postman
      Postman 7 November 2013 22: 04
      0
      My condolences!
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 7 November 2013 22: 23
        +4
        Quote: Postman
        My condolences!


        As I understand it, you are not celebrating this day, so why spoil the festive mood for people with their sarcasm?
        Cho, can’t you cheat on your neighbor?
  • Alex66
    Alex66 7 November 2013 09: 27
    20
    There is almost complete silence in the media and on the Internet about this greatest date and its role for the whole world. Thanks to the Great October Socialist Revolution, millions of workers around the planet began to live better, capitalist governments were forced to develop social programs in order to avoid the growth of tension in their countries. Now there is a curtailment of all the achievements of socialism since there is no example of the correct development of society. Everything goes to what we will only have enough for bread and a corner in the room.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 03
      -7
      Quote: Alex66
      Thanks to the Great October Socialist Revolution, millions of workers across the planet began to live better

      And almost 18 millions died in a fratricidal warrior!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 37
        -4
        Cho minus, though his eyes hurt yes tongue
        1. volkodav
          volkodav 7 November 2013 10: 48
          +5
          Yes, not fratricidal, each fought for his Russia, only the Jews themselves, be damned their rotten tribe until the end of centuries.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 21
            +3
            Quote: volkodav
            Yes, not fratricidal, each fought for his Russia,

            You yourself understood what you wrote.
            Quote: volkodav
            only Jews speak for themselves

            Yeah, call their names, please be so kind
            Quote: volkodav
            , be rotten their rotten tribe until the end of centuries.

            WHEN YOU ARE CELEBRING HERE ??????????????????????????????????
            1. volkodav
              volkodav 7 November 2013 14: 10
              +4
              white has its own Russia has its own red. They have chosen different development paths.
              Yeah, call their names, be so kind [quote = volkodav], be rotten their rotten tribe until the end of the centuries. [/ Quote]
              THEN YOU ARE CELEBRATING HERE ?????????????????????????????????? [/ quote]
              but I don’t celebrate, not with anyone request Surnames are known to all - Trotsky, Sverdlov, Kamenev, Bukharin and Company
            2. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 14
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              WHEN YOU ARE CELEBRING HERE ??????????????????????????????????


              We celebrate the anniversary of the Great October Revolution. soldier
              1. Postman
                Postman 7 November 2013 22: 05
                0
                My condolences!
            3. Gorinich
              Gorinich 8 November 2013 11: 13
              +2
              "THEN YOU CELEBRATE HERE ?????????????????????????????????"
              We celebrate the memory of those who gave people the dream of the future. What holidays do you celebrate?
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 7 November 2013 10: 49
          11
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Cho minus

          And I put a minus! At that time, people chose their own path, many could have given up - to understand in time that the people no longer want to live the way they did! They did not want to understand, and did not want to give in! There were victims on both sides, but the birth of a new, unprecedented state was bloodless and could not happen! By the way, it was this revolution that gave you, as well as millions of others, the opportunity to get higher education, free medicine, social conditions ... and a lot of things. And it was this country, born in agony, that liberated half of the world from fascism. Unfortunately, we did not keep the “talkers” and opportunists, we allowed them to come to power. But we won't make such a mistake again! so don’t spit in REVOLUTION if you don’t want it to repeat itself as bloody! hi
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 11
            -4
            Quote: Egoza
            And it was this country, born in agony, that freed half the world from fascism.

            Lenin is not related to the liberation from fascism! The country you are talking about Elena is not built by him!
            Quote: Egoza
            . But more such a mistake is not allowed! so do not spit in the REVOLUTION, if you do not want it to repeat as bloody!

            There will be a repetition, if even today such people as Lenin are supported. They, in the swamp, with their whole shushary, advocated a new revolution.
            And he spits one who does not want to see the ruined temples and the bloody warrior, unleashed by Lenin with falsifiers.
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 7 November 2013 13: 41
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              There will be a repetition, if even today such people as Lenin are supported. They, in the swamp, with their whole shushary, advocated a new revolution.


              There, on the swamp, people fooled by liberals, and those who direct them have nothing to do with the left. and I am ashamed of the red flag on the swamp!
            2. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 16
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The country you are talking about Elena is not built by him!


              I’m even lost to advise reading ... what history or logic textbook what

              ... There will be a repetition, if even today they support such people as Lenin.

              To equate Lenin and the liberals ?! Enchanting! good

              ... he spits who does not want to see the ruined temples and the bloody warrior unleashed by Lenin with falsifiers.

              Comrade buy any encyclopedia and in the end find out the chronicle of the events of the Civil War, then you will not disgrace such nonsense in public.
              With all due respect. hi



            3. Gorinich
              Gorinich 8 November 2013 11: 19
              +2
              "There will be a repetition, if today we support people like Lenin ..."

              Let there be war if today we support the Serdyukovs and Chubais. A thief should sit in jail! All of today's Russian billionaires go there.
          2. Bigriver
            Bigriver 7 November 2013 14: 13
            +6
            Quote: Egoza
            ... By the way, it was this revolution that gave you, like millions of others, the opportunity to get a higher education, free medicine, social conditions ... and a lot of things ...

            It was not that revolution that gave, but another. The one that was quietly conducted by the IVS in the 30s, clearing the hell out of all these crazy internationalist-communists. As a result of this revolution, the New Russian Empire was revived. But if everything was as Lenin-Trotsky wanted, the country would not be gone in the late 20s. They simply did not need it as a country. Only in the form of fuel and strong point.
            Russia would fly like brushwood into the furnace of the world revolution. And there would be no one here to speak about the greatness of October, who gave something.
            1. atos_kin
              atos_kin 7 November 2013 14: 38
              +3
              Were there not Lenin, where would there be an ITT?
              1. Bigriver
                Bigriver 7 November 2013 15: 01
                +1
                Quote: atos_kin
                Were there not Lenin, where would there be an ITT?

                As stated in the article: RCP (b) was a dwarf party. Would be .., well, a Menshevik, for example, al-Eser.
            2. Egoza
              Egoza 7 November 2013 14: 40
              +4
              Quote: BigRiver
              It was not that revolution that gave, but another. The one quietly held by the IVS in 30's

              Well, excuse me. The first educational programs were organized even BEFORE Comrade Stalin, F.E. was appointed Minister of Railways, who nevertheless put things in order. Dzerzhinsky BEFORE Joseph Vissarionovich. And Comrade Stalin himself, where did he come from? He considered himself a student of Lenin. And honor and praise for the fact that he was able to surpass his teacher. fellow
              1. Bigriver
                Bigriver 7 November 2013 15: 05
                +2
                Quote: Egoza
                ... The first educational programs were organized BEFORE Comrade Stalin, the Minister of Railways ... He considered himself a student of Lenin ...

                Well, yes ... Until Stalin. Internationalists needed high-quality brushwood.
                Yes, Stalin considered himself a student. And what would you do in this case? Would they sever all ties with Lenin and create the conditions for a coup to ripen? They would give the Opposition Flag, would give it all the trump cards ... And this is when the reconciliation of the people just came?
                The essence of the purge was well voiced by Trotsky in the American newspaper of 1938. Publication was addressed to Stalin... I can’t vouch for the verbatim, but there is on the network:You betrayed the cause of the revolution! You shoot the wrong people, you beat your own. And we need the intelligentsia, school girls, priests ... "
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 19: 25
                  +5
                  Quote: BigRiver
                  Yes, Stalin considered himself a student. And what would you do in this case? Would they sever all ties with Lenin and create the conditions for a coup to ripen?

                  In China, to this day, Mao is held for the icon, otherwise the people will not understand.
                  1. Karlsonn
                    Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 41
                    0
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    In China, to this day, Mao is held for the icon, otherwise the people will not understand.


                    What side is Stalin here?
                    Like you, for almost 60 years, you have been pouring mud on it and it still doesn't work.
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 20: 32
                      +4
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      Like you, for almost 60 years, you have been pouring mud on it and it still doesn't work.

                      ??
                      Well, I took it on my chest. What are you smoking?
                      1. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 7 November 2013 21: 48
                        0
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Well, I took it on my chest. What are you smoking?


                        Drank - do not write comments!
                        Tomorrow will not be ashamed. hi
                      2. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 22: 29
                        +4
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        Drank - do not write comments!

                        You are not a decree to me.
                      3. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 7 November 2013 22: 57
                        +1
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        You are not a decree to me.


                        The stump is clear. hi

      2. Postman
        Postman 7 November 2013 22: 06
        -3
        The viper was built in my opinion.
    2. Aleksys2
      Aleksys2 7 November 2013 10: 56
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Cho minus, though his eyes hurt yes

      Eyes prick your ignorance!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 07
        -2
        Quote: Aleksys2
        Eyes prick your ignorance!

        This is the main and only argument. wink When there is nothing to cover, the only thing you can cling to is spelling good
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 23
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          When there is nothing to cover, the only thing you can cling to is spelling


          But why winked
    3. explorer
      explorer 7 November 2013 11: 36
      +9
      Are you a humanist? am
      Then the question is: was there an alternative to this carnage or we left the worse option - can you answer? would the Yugoslav option be better?
      and what would the Entente states allow to live in peace in the future?
      The VSOR is a logical development of our history in the year 17 - whoever came to power - there would be terror and building a vertical of power.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 12: 05
        -3
        Quote: explorer

        Then the question is: was there an alternative to this carnage or we left the worse option - can you answer?

        The Yugoslav version did not smell, and so everything that you have lost or you are not aware of.
        Quote: explorer
        The VSOR is a logical development of our history in the year 17 - whoever came to power - there would be terror and building a vertical of power.

        Terror is needed only when the people are against! When the people for power, whom to terrorize?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 12: 07
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Terror is needed only when the people are against! When the people for power, whom to terrorize?

          so tell me who the people were in 17
          1. Trapperxnumx
            Trapperxnumx 7 November 2013 15: 06
            +6
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Terror is needed only when the people are against! When the people for power, whom to terrorize?

            so tell me who the people were in 17

            People? In 1917? Yes, not for anyone! The people believed those who promised an end to the war and peace, the land to the peasants and others. Only now, instead of peace, we got an even more terrible and long war in our country, together the lands - collective farms and dispossession. And those who say that the 1917 revolution did not bring us anything are right. Read Trotsky's program about "labor armies" and "common women"! Take an interest in the history of foreign concessions after 1917 - you will be surprised at how foreign capital ruled in Russia. What was subsequently transformed into the USSR known to us has nothing to do with what they planned to do with the country in 1917.
            Yes, and do not have the February Revolution by October 25 1917. The First World War could well have ended. Preparation for the Great Offensive was almost completed, there was only one step left before the victory, which was taken away from us.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 18: 50
              -1
              Quote: Trapper7
              the 1917 revolution brought us nothing.

              which revolution is February or October ??!
              Quote: Trapper7
              Read Trotsky's program about "labor armies" and "common women"! Inquire about the history of foreign concessions after 1917

              again, all in isolation from the events, once again the Bolsheviks did not appear out of thin air, they are essentially a consequence of the February events. By the way, do not tell me what happened to the "Jew" ?!
        2. explorer
          explorer 7 November 2013 12: 36
          +4
          "Oh really?!" fellow
          The whole country had a set of specific principalities:
          the question is how many republics were there in the former empire, which during the year of their existence managed to not only arise, trade, declare territorial claims of another, etc.
          The return of the landowners' lands self-captured by the peasants - would it be the same painless?
          And depriving the new state of access to Baku oil - well, they took it all right?
          and many other questions.
          and the solution of any of them would require violence from the new government, since external pressure did not allow time for diplomatic games.
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        4. Gorinich
          Gorinich 8 November 2013 11: 30
          0
          "The Yugoslavian version did not even smell ..." LIAR!
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 11: 44
      +3
      this is not true but semi-true, this is from the same "truth" that you drunk saved the country from civil war.
      Bolsheviks did not form out of thin air
    5. badger1974
      badger1974 7 November 2013 12: 04
      +6
      I personally do not minus, I am interested in the opinion of a person, and especially on what this opinion is based, I absorb literature of any kind. but I can also compare and read what is written between the lines, therefore, in the light of recent events, people have a clear gap in the interpretation itself, so what was the revolution or coup in the 17th? from everything I read, I conclude that the Revolution, but the "orange" brawl is the most outright coup
      1. faraon
        faraon 7 November 2013 13: 26
        -3
        I recommend you the book by Igor Bunich "gold of the party". There is a very well-described whole orgy of the October Revolution. I think that you can separate truth from lies and find answers to many questions related to modern history
        1. badger1974
          badger1974 7 November 2013 15: 04
          +3
          to your disappointment, this libel read, and not only him, and did not find a single real document pointing to the events described, one continuous suspicion of the author in his sore brain. just like slushers like him,
    6. SPLV
      SPLV 7 November 2013 13: 23
      +2
      Yes, it really hurts my eyes. And colitis is a stomach disease!
  • Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 7 November 2013 12: 26
    +4
    Alexander Romanov
    And almost 18 millions died in a fratricidal warrior!

    You famously attributed 10 million!
    Right, the second Solzhenitsyn ...
    Even if you take the data from the biased Wikipedia;
    During the Civil War, from 8 to 13 million people died from hunger, disease, terror and in battles (according to various sources).
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 7 November 2013 15: 11
      +3
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      Even if you take the data from the biased Wikipedia;
      During the Civil War, from 8 to 13 million people died from hunger, disease, terror and in battles (according to various sources).


      Ah, well, that's another matter. Just 8 unhappy millionaires.
      Fu damn, do you even have a conscience? 8 million people - including women, children, old people. Is this a "great achievement"? Do you worship it?
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 15: 19
        +5
        Quote: Trapper7
        You have a conscience

        Sorry, but when it comes to historical events, it’s not appropriate to juggle with numbers, and no one says that the death of 8 million of our fellow citizens is wonderful, but Swanidzovism has broken.
        some historians have already counted to the fact that more than they were called up to the Red Army perished on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War.
        if you use numbers in a dispute, they should not be sucked out of the finger and inserted for the sake of the beauty of the picture
  • T80UM1
    T80UM1 7 November 2013 12: 28
    +7
    Bourgeois is not our brothers! Bourgeois - and there is a fifth column! They started the war, because they don’t like to work ...
  • Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 13
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And almost 18 millions died in a fratricidal warrior!


    Well, who unleashed the Civil?
  • Passer
    Passer 7 November 2013 22: 32
    +1
    [/ Center]
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And almost 18 millions died in a fratricidal warrior!

    I wonder where these figures come from? There are NO exact numbers.
    Liberal sources operate with a figure of 10,5 million, although recently this figure began to rise to 12,5-13 million (of course, due to the atrocities of the "Reds"). In sources more or less close to history and statistics, the figure is 5 - 5,75 million people.
    But do not forget that then the natural population growth was about 17 - 22 people. per 1000 people And now there seems to be no civil war, and a decrease in the population (period 1992 - 2000) -5 people. per 1000, the natural decline for this period is about 4 million per year? Or is she still coming, just we don’t want to notice this?
    Below are the statistics, just do not forget that in recent years, the population of Russia has been actively growing migrant workers.
    [img] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Natural_Population_Growth_of_Russia.
    PNG? Uselang = en [/ img]
    1. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 7 November 2013 22: 59
      +4
      Quote: Passer
      I wonder where these figures come from? There are NO exact numbers.


      Solzhenitsyn counted! wink
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 7 November 2013 23: 00
      0
      Quote: Passer
      I wonder where these figures come from? There are NO exact numbers.


      Solzhenitsyn counted. wink
  • faraon
    faraon 7 November 2013 10: 57
    +2
    . Thanks to the Great October Socialist Revolution, millions of workers across the planet began to live better, capitalist governments were forced to develop social programs in order to avoid the growth of tension in their countries. Now there is a curtailment of all the achievements of socialism since there is no example of the correct development of society. Everything goes to what we will only have enough for bread and a corner in the room.

    All members of the forum have a holiday. In the end, we were born and raised in this era, is it good or not, but we are all people of a new formation and they are still Soviet people. Therefore, this era is so close to it with its communist holidays, slogans, social equality. We We didn’t live at the very beginning of the Great October Socialist Revolution. Therefore, it’s difficult for us to judge how many victims of Russia this revolution cost. But if you look back at the historical archives, everyone will see that what we call the Great Revolution was actually a bloody coup that threw Russia away 100 years ago. In fact, it was the systematic destruction of Russia's wealth organized by the Bolsheviks. The extermination of technical intelligentsia, the military, skilled workers, and the destruction of a strong peasant economy, the destruction of churches.
    and everything turned out as in the International, the old world was destroyed to the ground, but the new one was never built.
    Anyone who is engaged in history will say that they tried to impose Platonic socialism on us. His theory was developed in ancient Greece. And implemented in the best form in China by Mao-dtsu Dong.
    Dear Alex66, I strongly recommend that you read Igor Bunich's book "Gold of the Party" there you will find many answers to the questions you have on this topic, and which will arise in the future why everything turned out this way and not otherwise.
    the book is relevant even in our time.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 7 November 2013 11: 55
      +6
      In 1917, 3% of Russia's population owned all its wealth, now 5% owns everything, a little to a critical point is not enough.
    2. Alex66
      Alex66 7 November 2013 13: 36
      +7
      drove Russia 100 years ago But we quickly caught them in 45 won the war, created an atomic bomb, and launched a man into space.
      In fact, it was a systematic destruction of wealth With this money, the Bolsheviks bought equipment for factories, tractors, but now they are robbing them. And for what was created during the years of Soviet power, we lived for more than 20 years.
      1. badger1974
        badger1974 7 November 2013 15: 09
        +6
        and now we live, it’s already been 20 years, we’ll eat it up, without creating anything tangible
    3. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 31
      +3
      Quote: faraon
      Thanks to the Great October Socialist Revolution, millions of workers across the planet began to live better, capitalist governments were forced to develop social programs in order to avoid the growth of tension in their countries.


      firmly shakes hands

      Happy Comrade! drinks
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 20: 34
        +5
        Quote: Karlsonn
        Quote: faraon
        Thanks to the Great October Socialist Revolution millions of workers across the planet began to live better, capitalist governments were forced to develop social programs in order to avoid the growth of tension in their countries.

        firmly shakes hands

        Happy Comrade!

        laughing
  • Boris55
    Boris55 7 November 2013 09: 32
    11
    For some reason, it seems to me that many people confuse the 17-th Jewish coup with the achievements of the reign of the Russian Georgian, as he called himself, I.V. Stalin. The backlog he made allowed the Soviet Union to exist for 40 years after his assassination by the Trotskyists.

    Those who accomplished this revolution had completely different goals.


    The slogan, on every Soviet newspaper, in the upper right corner - "Workers of all countries unite" Made the entire Soviet people hunch back on the interests of the world revolution ... and live in poverty ourselves.
    1. CreepyUknow
      CreepyUknow 7 November 2013 09: 39
      +7
      I absolutely support!
    2. Deniska999
      Deniska999 7 November 2013 09: 40
      +2
      Those who accomplished this revolution had completely different goals.

      But they still did not follow the orders of Western intelligence agencies.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 7 November 2013 09: 48
        +6
        Quote: Deniska999
        But they still did not follow the orders of Western intelligence agencies.

        Stalin managed to crush them for a while, and after that, they still "followed the orders of the West" to perestroika ... and came to what we have at the moment. And again they failed to complete their plan to the end - to destroy Russia. Putin appeared - who stopped them.
    3. Hleb
      Hleb 7 November 2013 09: 47
      +1
      but to prove in a condition that these are the words of Trotsky ???
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 7 November 2013 09: 51
        0
        Quote: Gleb
        but to prove in a condition that these are the words of Trotsky ???

        No I can not. Most likely they do not belong to him, but reflect their sense of revolution. Read his works, especially the early ones - you will not find such a thing there.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 05
          0
          Quote: Boris55
          No I can not

          And is it not necessary to prove that the sky is blue and the grass is green.
          1. Hleb
            Hleb 7 November 2013 10: 31
            +4
            what kind of sky? grass? there are facts you bring, but to sketch everything is smart in your opinion? are there men here, or emotional boys? pouring beautiful and pleasant in your ears? you yourself distort the story.
            the point is not Trotsky’s defense or accusation, but an adequate dialogue
          2. explorer
            explorer 7 November 2013 12: 54
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            green grass. +

            after the commission’s visit from the county. laughing
    4. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 7 November 2013 09: 51
      +7
      Quote: Boris55
      ... the Jewish coup of the 17th ...

      Well, here they are waiting for the dirt.
      From the fact that you call the event that shook the whole world a revolution, it does not become so. If you can’t shut up, then grease?
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 7 November 2013 09: 56
        +6
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        Well, here they are waiting for the dirt.

        A fact on a person or a hell on a snout ... Do you know the names of those who have held positions in the country's leadership?

        reference to the original: http://f3.s.qip.ru/mIrA3oB0.png
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 25
          -4
          Quote: Boris55
          Do you know the names of those who have held positions in the country's leadership?

          Patriots of Russia, a la Moisha and company wassat
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 39
            +2
            For fun, the sex of Sait accuses the Jews of all the sins of the world, but as soon as the names of those who committed the revolution are called, those who poured mud on the Jews immediately occupy their side-out wassat
            1. badger1974
              badger1974 7 November 2013 15: 12
              0
              you know, communism is international, do not be surprised, especially since absolutely everyone was involved in the revolution
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 19: 36
                +4
                Quote: badger1974
                you know, communism is international, do not be surprised, especially since absolutely everyone was involved in the revolution

                Who argues ...
                Latvian thugs - Lenin's personal protection (he did not trust his own, he was afraid and not without reason), the Chinese mercenaries did not care who to mow with "maxims" - they were paid pennies.
                1. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 46
                  +3
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  Who argues ...
                  Latvian thugs - Lenin's personal protection (he did not trust his own, he was afraid and not without reason), the Chinese mercenaries did not care who to mow with "maxims" - they were paid pennies.


                  yeah, in Civilian only mercenaries fought for the Reds, or the case is white! Pride and beauty of the people!
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 20: 37
                    +4
                    Quote: Karlsonn
                    yeah, in Civilian only mercenaries fought for the Reds

                    Ossiks and students-dropouts tortured people in the basements of the Cheka.
                    1. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 7 November 2013 21: 51
                      +4
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      Ossiks and students-dropouts tortured people in the basements of the Cheka.


                      whites had a counterintelligence purely angels, and ramrod to death they scored in jest.
                      1. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 22: 30
                        +4
                        Quote: Karlsonn
                        whites had a counterintelligence purely angels, and ramrod to death they scored in jest.

                        Looks like not everyone was beaten, someone slipped away ...
                      2. Danilka
                        Danilka 7 November 2013 23: 03
                        -1
                        Well, you lit a special Olympics here. Sense ???
                      3. Karlsonn
                        Karlsonn 7 November 2013 23: 10
                        +2
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Looks like not everyone was beaten, someone slipped away ...


                        Judging by the fact that few were shot in the basements of the Cheka.
                        Look how many nits got out, the organs did not finish ...

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        1. Hleb
          Hleb 7 November 2013 10: 56
          +6
          Putin is a Jew? Nurgaliyev, Shoigu? ....
          well you give
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 05
          -4
          Quote: GUR
          But "your" portraits of the country's leaders ..

          This is from what Sait this nonsense wassat Give a link or delete the comment
          1. Gur
            Gur 7 November 2013 12: 45
            +3
            Yes, from the same with this, but the last time for some reason the moderator did not delete it, look at the article "Fighters".
          2. Gur
            Gur 7 November 2013 14: 47
            -1
            evgenii67 RU October 29, 2013 14:34 ↑
            Quote: Russ69
            And what percentage?
            Sorry, I found everything in 2009, but I think the composition has not changed much, permutations of the summands are possible, it is not surprising why the NATIONALITY column is removed in the passport:
            "President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev (JEW)
            Composition of the Government of the Russian Federation (2009)
            Prime Minister - Putin (Shalomov) Vladimir Vladimirovich (JEWISH)
            First Deputy Prime Minister - Viktor A. Zubkov (NEVER)
            First Deputy Prime Minister - Shuvalov Igor Ivanovich (JEWISH)
            Deputy Prime Minister - Ivanov Sergey Borisovich (JEWISH?)
            Deputy Prime Minister - Kozak Dmitry Nikolaevich (JEWISH)
            Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Finance - Alexei Kudrin (NON-JEWS?)
            Deputy Prime Minister - Igor Sechin (JEWISH)
            Deputy Prime Minister - Sergei Sobyanin (NON-JEWS?)
            Deputy Prime Minister - Zhukov Alexander Dmitrievich (JEWISH?)
            Ministry of Internal Affairs - Nurgaliev Rashid Gumarovich (JEWISH)
            Ministry of Health and Social Development - Tatyana A. Golikova (NON-JEWISH)
            Ministry of Energy - Shmatko Sergey Ivanovich (NON-JEWS)
            Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Sergey Lavrov (JEWISH)
            Ministry of Culture and Mass Communications - Alexander Avdeev (JEWISH)
            Ministry of Defense - Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov (JEWISH?)
            Ministry of Regional Development - Basargin Viktor Fedorovich (NON-JEWS?)
            Ministry of Communications and Mass Media - Shchegolev Igor Olegovich (JEWISH)
            Ministry of Agriculture - Skrynnik Elena Borisovna (JEWISH)
            Ministry of Education and Science - Andrey Fursenko (JEWISH)
            Ministry of Industry and Trade - Viktor Khristenko (JEWISH)
            Ministry of Civil Defense, Emergencies and Disaster Relief - Sergey Kuiguetovich Shoigu (JEWS ?, mother - Alexandra Y. Shoigu)
            Ministry of Sport, Tourism and Youth Policy - Mutko Vitaliy Leontyevich (JEWISH)
            Ministry of Transport - Igor Levitin (JEWISH)
            Ministry of Justice - Konovalov Alexander Vladimirovich (JEWISH?)
            Ministry of Economic Development - Nabiullina Elvira Sahipzadovna (JEWISH?)
            TOTAL: THE JEWS IN THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT 70-80% "I took in quotation marks, so it is not my personal calculation and is not plagiarism, but it is difficult to disagree.
      3. Turkestan
        Turkestan 8 November 2013 00: 54
        +1
        Stop posting anti-Semitic fucking. If you think something, then consider it correctly.
        For your information:
        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Совет_народных_комиссаров_Р
        SFSR

        '' The first composition of the Council of People's Commissars of Soviet Russia

        Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars - Vladimir Ulyanov (Lenin)
        People's Commissar for Internal Affairs - A. I. Rykov
        People's Commissar of Agriculture - V.P. Milyutin
        People's Commissar of Labor - A. G. Shlyapnikov
        People’s Commissariat for Military and Naval Affairs - Committee, composed of: V. A. Ovseenko (Antonov) (in the text of the Decree on the formation of the Council of People's Commissars - Avseenko), N. V. Krylenko and P. E. Dybenko
        People's Commissar for Trade and Industry - V.P. Nogin
        People's Commissar of Education - A. V. Lunacharsky
        People's Commissar of Finance - I. I. Skvortsov (Stepanov)
        People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs - L. D. Bronstein (Trotsky)
        People's Commissar of Justice - G. I. Oppokov (Lomov)
        People's Commissar for Food - I. A. Teodorovich
        People's Commissar of Posts and Telegraphs - N.P. Avilov (Glebov)
        People's Commissar for Nationalities - I. V. Dzhugashvili (Stalin)
        The post of People's Commissar for Rail Affairs remained temporarily not replaced.
        The vacant post of People's Commissar for Rail Affairs later took V.I. Nevsky (Krivobokov)
        ....
        For political reasons, the Bolsheviks introduced in the first composition of the Council of People's Commissars only one Jew, Trotsky L. D., who took the post of People’s Commissar.
        Yuri Emelyanov in his work “Trotsky. Myths and personality ”provides an analysis of this list. Analysis shows that the "Jewish" character of the Council of People's Commissars was obtained through machinations: not the first composition of the Council of People's Commissars, published in the decree of the II Congress of Soviets, is mentioned, but from the many times changing composition of the Council of People's Commissars only those Commissariats were pulled out, which were ever headed by Jews. "
    5. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 01
      +6
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      Well, here they are waiting for the dirt.

      What dirt, a man called a spade a spade. Although we still have those who consider Nemtsov, Alekseev and others patriots of Russia. What can we say about the 17th year when the Russians killed the Russians, that was real dirt.
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 7 November 2013 10: 21
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What dirt, a man called a spade a spade.

        Not quite right. The coup was carried out by a Jewish criminal group; the whole nation cannot be blamed.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 32
          +2
          Quote: Nayhas
          . The coup was carried out by a Jewish criminal group

          Sorry, and who was the main one in the Jewish elite, call the surname wink
          Quote: Nayhas
          You cannot blame the whole people.

          The people always have nothing to do with it, but it was the people who supported Yeltsin in 91 hi
          1. Nayhas
            Nayhas 7 November 2013 11: 19
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The people always have nothing to do with it, but it was the people who supported Yeltsin in 91

            In 1991. yes, but in 1917. there was no support by the Bolshevik people, otherwise there would be no civil war. If a criminal group has an ethnic focus does not mean at all that all citizens of this nationality are responsible for the actions of this group ...
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 37
              -1
              Quote: Nayhas
              Don, and who was the main in the Jewish elite, name the last name

              Once again, give the last name!
              Quote: Nayhas
              If a criminal group has an ethnic focus does not mean at all that all citizens of this nationality are responsible for the actions of this group ..

              And who is blaming everyone here, just name the names of this member of this group. Is it difficult or not profitable?
              1. Nayhas
                Nayhas 7 November 2013 11: 54
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                And who is blaming everyone here, just name the names of this member of this group. Is it difficult or not profitable?

                Parvus (Gelfand), Lenin, Trotsky (Bronstein), Sverdlov. Named, in the sense of real organizers.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 12: 30
                  0
                  Quote: Nayhas
                  Parvus (Gelfand), Lenin, Trotsky (Bronstein), Sverdlov. Named, in the sense of real organizers.

                  There are still many Jewish surnames and you know that wink
                  1. Nayhas
                    Nayhas 7 November 2013 13: 11
                    +2
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    There are still many Jewish surnames and you know that

                    I know. But this is not the whole nation. The Germans, for example, supported Hitler, but in Nuremberg they did not judge the Germans, but the NSDAP ...
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 8 November 2013 06: 41
                      0
                      Quote: Nayhas
                      I know.

                      And Lenin wasn’t around there. laughing
            2. atalef
              atalef 7 November 2013 13: 05
              +5
              Quote: Nayhas
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The people always have nothing to do with it, but it was the people who supported Yeltsin in 91

              In 1991. yes, but in 1917. there was no support by the Bolshevik people, otherwise there would be no civil war. If a criminal group has an ethnic focus does not mean at all that all citizens of this nationality are responsible for the actions of this group ...


              Of course it wasn’t, but who then fought on the side of the Bolsheviks, and to whom did the whites lose then?
              1. Nayhas
                Nayhas 7 November 2013 14: 23
                0
                Quote: atalef
                Of course it wasn’t, but who then fought on the side of the Bolsheviks, and to whom did the whites lose then?

                The Bolsheviks replenished their ranks through violent mobilization, as well as the involvement of the so-called "internationalists" from among the prisoners of war, Germans, Czechs, and Hungarians. In addition, the Balts fought for the Bolsheviks. You can recall the mercenaries of the Chinese murderer Yakir. In addition, various gangs fought for the Bolsheviks under the leadership of Kotovsky, Makhno, Shchors. The Bolsheviks practiced taking hostages from the relatives of the tsarist officers, forcing them thereby to fight for themselves. Do not forget that the entire production base and military depots were in the hands of the Bolsheviks and they had no problems with weapons, which cannot be said about their opponents.
                1. Egoza
                  Egoza 7 November 2013 14: 52
                  +5
                  Quote: Nayhas
                  The Bolsheviks replenished their ranks by forced mobilization,

                  Quote: Nayhas
                  mercenaries of the Chinese murderer Yakir.

                  Quote: Nayhas
                  various gangs under the leadership of Kotovsky, Makhno, Shchors

                  Excuse me, a reference to this nonsense, pliz! Or did you learn this at school?
                  We have a village in the Kiev region, which is populated by the descendants of those who fought in the Kotovsky brigade. And there is a monument to Kotovsky there, despite all the cries of orange, shit and others ... And whoever demolishes this figurine, it was created with the money of the villagers, it is the memory of their grandfathers-heroes. Already there are no Kotovtsi, but human memory is alive! So it’s not worth all to write down in bandits.
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 19: 46
                    +4
                    Quote: Egoza
                    We have a village in the Kiev region, which is populated by the descendants of those who fought in the Kotovsky brigade. And the monument there stands Kotovsky, despite all the cries of the orange, shit and others ...

                    Dear Egoza!
                    But whom did the Bolsheviks need and could perpetuate? Only their own. In Arkhangelsk there is a monument to Vinogradov, in Orel - Medvedev ... And so on throughout the USSR. The Bolsheviks could not erect monuments (and preserve the memory) of the military experts who fought for the Reds — some who were threatened with the destruction of their families, who foolishly confused the Russian revolution with the French one.
                    Kotovsky was the essence of an ordinary partisan, a bandit. And only Makhno was able to spit on the promises of the Reds, for which he was betrayed by the red anathema.
                    1. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 7 November 2013 20: 17
                      +3
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      The Bolsheviks could not erect monuments (and preserve the memory) of the military experts who fought for the Reds — some who were threatened with the destruction of their families, who foolishly confused the Russian revolution with the French one.

                      - B. M. Shaposhnikov (colonel),
                      - M.A. Reuters (Colonel),
                      - A. Ya. Kruse (lieutenant colonel),
                      - D.M. Karbyshev (lieutenant colonel),
                      - Bakhtin A.N. (Colonel),
                      - V.D. Grendal (Colonel),
                      - Lieutenant Colonel Alexandrov E.V., Colonel Alexandrov L.G., Lieutenant Colonel Alekseev V.A., Major General of the General Staff Barsukov E.Z., Major General of the General Staff Belolipetskiy V.E., Colonel Bettiher N.I., Colonel Belinsky I.O., Major General E. Berkalov, Major General of the General Staff Bonch-Bruevich M. D., Lt. Col. Vnukov L.V., Colonel Gelvikh P. A. [11], Major General K. Goretsky E., Lieutenant Colonel of the General Staff A. Gotovtsev, Colonel Grave I. P., Major General N. Drozdov, General Captain Dyakov G. S., Lieutenant General V. N. Egoriev, Major General of the General Staff Zagyu M . M., infantry general Zayonchkovsky A.M., Colonel Zaleski N.P., Colonel of the General Staff Zarubaev V.N., Major General of the General Staff, military agent in France Ignatiev A.A., Colonel Kakurin N.E., Lieutenant Colonel Kakhovsky V.N., captain of the General Staff Kirpichnikov A.V., lieutenant colonel of the General Staff Klyuev L. L., major general D. Kozlovsky, Lieutenant Colonel of the General Staff A. Kolenkovsky, captain of the General Staff B. N. Kondratiev, major general General Staff Korsun N.G., Captain of the General Staff B.I. Kuznetsov, Colonel of the General Staff M.N. Kuznetsov, Colonel N.N. Luknitsky, General Staff Colonel Lu packs L. A., captain of the General Staff Lyutov A. D., captain of the General Staff Maximov V. I., Major General N. N. Matveevich, Major General V. Mikeladze, Colonel G. F. Morozov, Lieutenant General General Staff Nadezhny D. N., Lieutenant General of the General Staff Novitsky F. F., Captain of the General Staff Polikarpov M. A., Lieutenant General Potapov N. M., Colonel Redzko K. V., Captain of the General Staff Stroyev (Richter) M. P ., Colonel A. Rogovsky, Major General of the General Staff Savchenko S. N., Major General of the General Staff Samoilo A. A., Major General Svechin A. A., Captain V. N. Sergeev, Lieutenant General of the General Staff Sokovn M. A., Major General of the General Staff Sukhov V. G., Lieutenant Colonel of the General Staff Sysoev E. V., Captain of the General Staff, A. Tveritinov, Colonel, N. Ungerman, Lieutenant Colonel, V. G. Fedorov, General Lieutenant, Kharlamov S. D., Colonel of the General Staff, Lieutenant Colonel Khmelkov S. A., Lieutenant Colonel of the General Staff Shafalovich F. P., Colonel of the General Staff Schwartz N. N., Captain of the General Staff Shilovsky E. A., Lieutenant General Shikhlinsky A. I ., Colonel of the General Staff Chetkov V. M., Colonel of the General Staff V. N. Chernyshev, Major General V. Yakovlev ... and tens of thousands of other officers of the tsarist army went over to the side of October I, in your reality out of sticks, was different in our all.
                    2. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 20: 40
                      +5
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      everything was different in ours.

                      In your Bolshevik reality? Only nonsense. Hot.
                    3. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 7 November 2013 21: 53
                      0
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      In your Bolshevik reality?


                      Yes sir!


                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      Only nonsense. Hot.


                      the last 100 grams you comrade clearly drank in vain.
                    4. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 22: 31
                      +4
                      Quote: Karlsonn
                      the last 100 grams you comrade clearly drank in vain.

                      C'mon, I drink for my own.
                      Where do you get the grass?
                    5. Karlsonn
                      Karlsonn 8 November 2013 01: 20
                      +2
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      C'mon, I drink for my own.
                      Where do you get the grass?


                      Why attribute their vices to strangers?
              2. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 22: 51
                +3
                Quote: Karlsonn
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                The Bolsheviks could not erect monuments (and preserve the memory) of the military experts who fought for the Reds — some who were threatened with the destruction of their families, who foolishly confused the Russian revolution with the French one.
                - B. M. Shaposhnikov (colonel),
                - M.A. Reuters (Colonel),
                - A. Ya. Kruse (lieutenant colonel),
                - D.M. Karbyshev (lieutenant colonel),
                - Bakhtin A.N. (Colonel),
                - V.D. Grendal (Colonel),

                But what are HEROES such as TUKACHEVSKY, UBOROVICH, YAKIR, BLUKHER, etc.
              3. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 8 November 2013 01: 21
                +2
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                And what is it that such HEROES are forgotten like with Tukachevsky, Uborevich, Yakir, BluKher


                In due time, and dealt with them.
              4. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 01: 30
                +3
                Quote: Karlsonn
                In due time, and dealt with them.

                And then ...
                Well, you’re like ghouls - you can’t live without blood ...
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 7 November 2013 20: 38
          +1
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          But whom did the Bolsheviks need and could perpetuate? Only their own.

          Sorry, I don't see the logic! I'm telling you that the monument was erected by former soldiers of the Kotovsky division! With your own money! What does the Bolsheviks have to do with it? These are ordinary peasants! Well, now they say, villagers! So much time has passed, but the descendants keep this monument! It's not easy in "independent" Ukraine!
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          Kotovsky was the essence of an ordinary partisan, a bandit.

          And for you partisan = bandit? Oh well! I wonder how you rate WWII guerrillas? But many of them also took part in the revolution, and even in the first world!
        3. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 22: 36
          +4
          Quote: Egoza
          And for you partisan = bandit? Oh well! I wonder how you rate WWII guerrillas?

          Egoza, dear ... Well, you seem to be an organizer, you read lectures. Find the article on the internet for the scumbag Ulyanov "On the dangers of partisanship", it clearly shows WHO and HOW partisans in the 1918-1920s.
          This Bolshevik focus is to equalize the partisan heroes of the Great Patriotic War and the partisan gangsters of the Civil.
          Quote: Egoza
          I tell you that the monument was erected by former fighters of the Kotovsky division! For your money! And here are the Bolsheviks? These are ordinary peasants! Well, now they say, the villagers!

          Memory is holy. My bow to these villagers who remember the lost ancestors.
      2. Passer
        Passer 7 November 2013 23: 09
        +1
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Kotovsky was the essence of an ordinary partisan, a bandit.

        If you have already taken a liberal position, do not forget that Hollywood teaches that in the end the bandit repents leading the struggle for independence, or simply saves the world.
      3. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 23: 16
        +3
        Quote: Passer
        If you have already taken a liberal position, do not forget that Hollywood teaches that in the end the bandit repents leading the struggle for independence, or simply saves the world.

        You ... about the position ... more carefully, as about the liberals.
        Well, Hollywood, well, yes, that B. Willis, that Kotovsky laughing
    6. Passer
      Passer 7 November 2013 23: 09
      +1
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      Kotovsky was the essence of an ordinary partisan, a bandit.

      If you have already taken a liberal position, do not forget that Hollywood teaches that in the end the bandit repents leading the struggle for independence, or simply saves the world.
  • Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 7 November 2013 20: 09
    +3
    Quote: Nayhas
    Bolsheviks replenished their ranks by forced mobilization


    White didn’t do that, of course?

    Quote: Nayhas
    as well as the involvement of the so-called "internationalists" from among the prisoners of war Germans, Czechs, Hungarians.


    I heard a ring, but don’t know where he is.
    The civilian flared up thanks in large part to the rebellion of the Whites, do not forget about the intervention, so it is still worth counting on whose side there were more foreigners.

    Quote: Nayhas
    The Bolsheviks practiced hostage-taking from the relatives of tsarist officers, forcing them to fight for themselves.


    The white soldiers of the Red Army, the former tsarist generals, were shot by the whites for refusing to go over to their side, what can you say?

    Quote: Nayhas
    Do not forget that the entire production base and military depots were in the hands of the Bolsheviks and they had no problems with weapons, which can not be said about their opponents.


    Izhevsk and Tula were under the white, but that did not help them.
    And by the way:
    ... The British gave a lot to the Siberian Army. We got full uniforms on 200000 people. To this was then added a number of sets that arrived by the Northern Sea Route from Arkhangelsk. The British, likewise, delivered to us over 100 of millions of Russian rifle cartridges in London; all the cartridges shot on the Ural front were received through General Knox, which, incidentally, he was very proud of. As for artillery, the British guns arrived only much later, and even then they turned out to be old and completely unsuitable for our front. Through the British, we, likewise, received several thousand old French machine guns. (Collapse)
    Knox was also involved in the distribution of rifles, although the latter came from stocks held by our Embassy in America. About 180000 guns were delivered to the front in this way. They were then joined by 50000, who arrived from Arkhangelsk, and 100000, bought from Remington. Finally, another 150000 rifle was sold to us on concessional terms by the American Government.


    http://eugend.livejournal.com/11878.html
  • Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 49
    +2
    Quote: Nayhas
    but in 1917. there was no support by the Bolshevik people


    Only in your reality, exactly the Bolshevik people supported us.
  • Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 48
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    but it was the people who supported Yeltsin in 91


    Do you remember the results of the referendum on the USSR?
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 7 November 2013 10: 32
    10
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What dirt

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    The Russians killed the Russians, that was real dirt

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What dirt

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    The Russians killed the Russians, that was real dirt

    Even this article directly states that "On the whole, Soviet power was established in the country easily and without much bloodshed. The revolution was immediately supported in the Central Industrial Region ...." So, the civil war was unleashed by those who organized the "white" terror and invited the interventionists. Yes, I forgot about the "priest" tsar. And about his role in the tragic events of those years .. And the blood lies to a greater extent on them. Their names, I hope you know.
    PS The participation of Jews in the revolutionary movement does not surprise me. It is enough to dig a little the position of the Jews in Tsarist Russia. So, do not refer to the worldwide Jewish conspiracy.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 44
      0
      Quote: There was a mammoth

      Even this article directly states that "On the whole, Soviet power was established in the country easily and without much bloodshed

      Well, if the article indicates, then yes ..... there really is no doubt about it. I’ve already brought dozens of links here before, what kind of blood it led to, but my links are completely lies. Think of something in the archive.
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      . So do not refer to a worldwide Jewish conspiracy.

      Yes, you damn yourself in each article on the distillation yelling about a worldwide Jewish conspiracy, what a hypocrisy. But damn that the schoolchildren have gathered or who. In one article write, and in the other, well, okay. Write, the paper will bear it.
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 7 November 2013 10: 55
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, you damn yourself in each article on the distillation yelling about the worldwide Jewish conspiracy, for hypocrisy.

        You, of course, give the link. Because I don’t know what and how I think. You don’t have to look for a cat where it doesn’t exist.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 03
          -5
          Quote: There was a mammoth
          You, of course, give the link.

          Yes, you have a conscience, I’ll tell you that the bull pedal ten times the same exhibit. There is a desire, you will find it yourself, it’s not difficult, but I don’t notice it from you.
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 7 November 2013 11: 06
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, you have a conscience, I’ll tell you that the bull pedal ten times the same exhibit. There is a desire, you’ll see for yourself, it’s not difficult,but I don’t notice it from you.

            Thank you!
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 7 November 2013 11: 03
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, you damn yourself in each article on the distillation yelling about a worldwide Jewish conspiracy, cho for hypocrisy

        Or maybe there is a difference between the Jews who were really oppressed in Tsarist Russia and joined the revolution with a pure soul, and those who "sit in the world government"?
        Do not forget that "the romantics make the revolution, and the villains use its fruits"!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 41
          -3
          Quote: Egoza
          Or maybe there is a difference between the Jews who were really oppressed in tsarist Russia

          Jews were oppressed, this is news. Helena, you are now confused with Germany of the Hitler period.
          Quote: Egoza
          with a pure soul joined the revolution,

          They led and sponsored it, as did the Carnegie Endowment today.
          Quote: Egoza
          Do not forget that "the romantics make the revolution, and the villains use its fruits"!

          Yeah, so the villains came to power as a result of the revolution, did I understand correctly?
        2. Boris55
          Boris55 7 November 2013 11: 56
          +2
          Quote: Egoza
          Do not forget that "the romantics make the revolution, and the villains use its fruits"!


          "To raise small to great and to reduce great to small - this is the true mockery of life."
          M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin

          In your opinion, romance is Lenin and Trotsky, and the scoundrel who took advantage of their "works" is Stalin?
          .
      3. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 19: 47
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Even this article directly states that "On the whole, Soviet power was established in the country easily and without much bloodshed
        Well, if the article indicates, then yes ..... there really is no doubt about it.

        A good criterion, Bolshevik. If it's written in Pravda, it's true ... laughing
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 7 November 2013 20: 19
          +4
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          A good criterion, Bolshevik. If it's written in Pravda, it's true ...


          That is what the Bolsheviks said, today many are only discovering for themselves.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 20: 24
            +4
            Quote: Karlsonn
            That is what the Bolsheviks said, today many are only discovering

            C'mon ... don't ...
            There was the History of the CPSU, and the hated essays on Lenin's Two Steps ... and Kautsky's Renegade, including discussions of the slogan "The worse the better."
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 22: 38
              +3
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Quote: Karlsonn
              That is what the Bolsheviks said, today many are only discovering
              C'mon ... don't ...
              There was the History of the CPSU, and the hated essays on Lenin's Two Steps ... and Kautsky's Renegade, including discussions of the slogan "The worse the better."

              And what, marginal proletarians, have you not studied this?
              You would have to attach epaulettes, but on the highway I drove the loot ... laughing
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 7 November 2013 22: 47
                +2
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                And what, marginal proletarians, have you not studied this?
                You would have to attach epaulettes, but on the highway I drove the loot ...


                on their own people are not judged. request
            2. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 7 November 2013 22: 42
              +3
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              C'mon ... don't ...


              must stalkerwalker necessary!

              Quote: stalkerwalker
              There was the History of the CPSU, and the hated essays on Lenin's Two Steps ... and Kautsky's Renegade, including discussions of the slogan "The worse the better."


              I am sincerely sorry that you only remembered this ... crying
              “Now that the global economic crisis is unleashing its destructive effect, sinking whole layers of medium and small capitalists, ruining entire groups of labor aristocracy and farmers and condemning millions of workers to starvation, everyone asks: where is the cause of the crisis, what is its foundation, how to deal with it, how to destroy it? The most diverse “theories” of crisis are conceived. Entire projects of mitigation, warning, and liquidation of the crisis are proposed. Bourgeois opposition nod to the bourgeois governments, which, it turns out, "did not take all measures" to prevent the crisis. “Democrats” blame “Republicans”, “Republicans” - “Democrats”, and all together - Hoover’s group with its “Federal Reserve”, which failed to “curb” the crisis ...
              It is clear that all these “theories” and projects have nothing to do with science. It must be admitted that bourgeois economists were completely bankrupt in the face of the crisis. Moreover, they were deprived of even that minimum of instinct of life in which their predecessors could not always be denied. These gentlemen forget that crises cannot be regarded as an accidental phenomenon in the capitalist economy. These gentlemen forget that economic crises are an inevitable result of capitalism.
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 7 November 2013 22: 46
                +4
                These gentlemen forget that crises were born with the birth of the rule of capitalism. For more than a hundred years, periodic economic crises have occurred, repeating every 12 – 10 – 8 and less than a year. During this period, bourgeois governments of all ranks and colors, bourgeois leaders of all degrees and abilities — all without exception tried to try their hand at the subject of “warning” and “eliminating” crises. But they all failed. They were defeated, because it is impossible to prevent or destroy economic crises, remaining within the framework of capitalism ...
                ... The basis of the crisis lies in the contradiction between the social character of production and the capitalist form of appropriation of the results of production. An expression of this basic contradiction of capitalism is the contradiction between the colossal growth of production capacities of capitalism, calculated to maximize capitalist profits, and the relative reduction in effective demand from the millions of working people, whose standard of living the capitalists are trying to keep within the extreme minimum ...
                If capitalism could adapt production not to maximize profits, but to systematically improve the material conditions of the masses, if it could turn profits not to satisfy the whims of the parasitic classes, not to improve methods of exploitation, not to export capital, but to systematically raise the material position of workers and peasants, then there would be no crises. But then capitalism would not be capitalism. To destroy crises, it is necessary to destroy capitalism ... "

                Stalin I.V. Compositions. - T. 12 ..
                This is an example of what the Bolsheviks were talking about.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 23: 00
                  +3
                  Quote: Karlsonn
                  Stalin I.V. Compositions. - T. 12 ..
                  This is an example of what the Bolsheviks were talking about.

                  Well done! Hosh Order? With a spin on the back?
                2. Karlsonn
                  Karlsonn 8 November 2013 01: 23
                  +4
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  Well done! Hosh Order? With a spin on the back?


                  Leave the order to yourself, knowledge is valuable in itself.
          2. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 7 November 2013 23: 48
            0
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            There was the History of the CPSU, and the hated essays on Lenin's Two Steps ... and Kautsky's Renegade, including discussions of the slogan "The worse the better."

            Oh well. So? What did you write in the essays? Did you approve?
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 00: 28
              +3
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Oh well. So? What did you write in the essays? Did you approve?

              Was there a choice?
              Or did you go to Red Square in 1968 with protests against the invasion of Czechoslovakia in tandem with Alekseeva?
            2. Karlsonn
              Karlsonn 8 November 2013 01: 25
              +4
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Oh well. So? What did you write in the essays? Did you approve?


              They not only wrote essays, but also pledged allegiance to the cause of Lenin, and if the priest teaches a warm place, then it’s scary to imagine what they will be able to do .... laughing
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 02: 20
                +3
                Quote: Karlsonn
                They not only wrote essays, but also pledged allegiance to the cause of Lenin, and if the priest teaches a warm place, then it’s scary to imagine what they will be able to do ....

                For the blind I explain:
                - they took to the Komsomol without asking;
                - I’ve seen enough of the ideological and blinded ones that I won’t do anything with them on the same field.
                He didn’t make a career through the komunyatskiy mandate, like some lovers of the minus button.
              2. Gorinich
                Gorinich 8 November 2013 11: 54
                +1
                "- the Komsomol was accepted without asking; ...." LIAR !!!
              3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 8 November 2013 12: 15
                0
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                - they took to the Komsomol without asking;

                do not say nonsense if you do not know
              4. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 12: 28
                +3
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                do not say nonsense if you do not know


                Quote: Gorinich
                "- the Komsomol was accepted without asking; ...." LIAR !!!


                Zadolbali!
                To get started, change the flags to your own flags, then torture Claudia!
                As I was accepted into the Komsomol - this is unknown to you.
                Tryndet - not fat with garlic to eat ..
              5. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 8 November 2013 14: 00
                +2
                you are not the only one who joined the Komsomol, and if you were driven there, but you were against it, but nevertheless you entered it only characterizes you as a scoundrel and a careerist.
                I was also a Komsomol member and sincerely believed that it was an honor and I will never forget the father’s question that he asked me before, but I entered when I was 13 if it tells you anything

                and we have native flags
              6. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 08: 47
                +3
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                you are not the only one who joined the Komsomol, and if you were driven there, but you were against it, but nevertheless you entered it only characterizes you as a scoundrel and a careerist.

                At age 14 were wise and ambitious? Tell your grandmother about it!
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                and we have native flags

                Comrade Bolshevik-internationalists!
                Arrange Bolshevik coups in YOUR NATURAL COUNTRIES!
                No need to crawl to Russia, there are enough freaks and scum here without you!
              7. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 9 November 2013 11: 28
                0
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Tell your grandmother about it!

                what to tell
                how she entered, so she knew about it even without your prompting.
                and now, unfortunately, I can’t tell her anything.
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Arrange Bolshevik coups in YOUR NATURAL COUNTRIES!

                so Russia is my native country for me, and it’s kind of like coups and who is not going to arrange anything other than you
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                there are enough freaks and scum here without you!
                Well, you already proved it
              8. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 9 November 2013 12: 17
                +3
                [quote = Vladimir Vasilenko] [quote = stalkerwalker] Tell your grandmother about it! [/ quote]
                what to tell
                how she entered, so she knew about it even without your prompting.
                and now, unfortunately, I can’t tell her anything.
                The dispute between Ukrainians and Russians about Pinocchio's nationality:
                Ukrainians: "If there were Buratinov or Buratinin, it is clear that Russian ...".

                [quote = Vasilenko Vladimir] Quote: stalkerwalker
                here and without you there are enough freaks and bastards! well, this is something you have already proved [/ quote]
                It's nice that you agreed with my arguments ... fool
  • Gur
    Gur 7 November 2013 10: 37
    +5
    Yeah, for the events in August 91, they consider the expression of the will of the people ..
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 49
      +1
      Quote: GUR
      Yeah, for the events in August 91, they consider the expression of the will of the people ..

      Well, no one supported Yeltsin ????? Oh, how, how it all became. And they forgot it, how the crowd screamed Yeltsin, Yeltsin, or now it has become profitable to forget, because I’m probably ashamed to.
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 7 November 2013 12: 29
        +8
        Moscow is not the whole country ...
      2. Gur
        Gur 7 November 2013 12: 36
        +5
        This crowd, or a large part of it, is now hiding its eyes, and also this whole crowd is not the whole country, this is not a large part of it, maybe not even the Moscow region.
        Yeltsin himself shook liquid when this happened, and if not for his friend Clinton for the entire strategic supply of uranium, Russia would not have given the go-ahead, what would he do.
        1. explorer
          explorer 7 November 2013 14: 09
          +2
          Gavrila Popov, choking with delight at the rally after the victory over the State Emergency Committee, broadcast that the Muscovites had shown that they didn’t eat sausage in vain against the coup ... (sorry magnet record was gone, but I don't remember verbatim).
        2. hook
          hook 7 November 2013 17: 28
          0
          And how are you against RosAtom. who bought up the shares of the whole north of Kazakhstan through Schoolchild-a, in addition to Canada and South Africa?
      3. Des10
        Des10 7 November 2013 17: 47
        -1
        I didn’t scream. And I THEIR undercover struggle - was not clear. And I didn’t forget. Minus.
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 19: 33
    +6
    Quote: There was a mammoth
    From the fact that you call the event that shook the whole world a revolution, it does not become so.

    The Bolsheviks, many, it turns out, loved, and celebrated until 1926. Then they came to their senses, covered up a flaw.
  • Oberst_71
    Oberst_71 7 November 2013 10: 19
    +6
    but comrade Stalin of all these Jews of the Bolsheviks quickly who shot someone in Siberia.
    1. faraon
      faraon 7 November 2013 12: 16
      10
      Yes, it seems to me that this is not the case with the Jews. It seems the opposite. It is impossible to exclude the participation of Jews in the October Revolution Kamenev, Zinoviev, Trotsky, Sverdlov, Lenin. And many many ....... The fact is that under the guise of revolution, the destruction of its riches. On the German side, it was a victory in the war, and therefore indemnity, That the Lenin government, after the signing of the Brest Peace, and that is, it exported raw materials to Germany. Paying the expenses of the German General Staff for the revolution. In the process, enriching themselves. Stalin after coming he began to understand where the treasury of the state began to go to power. this is where what is now called the struggle for power began. he simply destroyed the Lenin Guard, which was engaged in the looting and removal of values ​​from the country. Since it was so corrupt that it no longer met its requirements. He returned to part of the country, plundered by Lenin’s associates, restored the historical mistake of Lenin returned the western regions to the country. But the struggle for purity in the party. Hence the purge. But it could not be otherwise. The country had to be reinstated to be lifted from the ruins. After such a pogrom.
  • faraon
    faraon 7 November 2013 11: 11
    +9
    And what did Lenin actually leave for Stalin? A plundered country, impoverished, barefoot, hungry, a country that lost its western regions as a result of the Brest peace. It also paid tacitly indemnity to Germany. At that moment when the country was bent from hunger.
    At that time, Stalin was the perfect way to get the country out of the crisis. I understand that they will object to me now, but judge for yourself that Stalin inherited and what remains after him, an industrially economically developed country. United by one idea of ​​building socialism. The country that won war, (although, according to German historians, Hitler's main calculation was to the discontent of the population by the Communists), a country with a renewed party that defended the interests of the pletariat. There were excesses, there were innocent victims in the camps, but judge if Russia didn’t exist. this seems to me the main merit of Stalin. He reinstated, lifted industry and the state from ruins. He returned national pride and self-awareness to the people.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 43
      -2
      Quote: faraon
      And what did Lenin actually leave for Stalin? A plundered country, impoverished, barefoot, hungry, a country that lost its western regions as a result of the Brest peace. It also paid tacitly indemnity to Germany.

      What to answer +, although the rest, at least in the eyes of a drip, will roll everything for dew.
      1. Des10
        Des10 7 November 2013 17: 51
        -1
        left the construction of a new great power.
    2. badger1974
      badger1974 7 November 2013 15: 21
      +2
      Do not be nonsense, the GOELRO plan was developed by the Council of People's Commissars at the initiative of Vladimir Ilyich, and the linkage of this plan to the creation of the most powerful enterprises of heavy industry, and you call this "left Stalin plundered and destitute, even if it does not fit, stop the insanity to read the authors of the sick, although look at the western press of those years
      1. plebs
        plebs 7 November 2013 16: 26
        +1
        Do not be nonsense, the GOELRO plan was developed by the Council of People's Commissars at the initiative of Vladimir Ilyich, and the linkage of this plan to the creation of the most powerful enterprises of heavy industry, and you call this "left Stalin plundered and destitute, even if it does not fit, stop the insanity to read the authors of the sick, although look at the western press of those years
        And also, with the filing of Lenin, the New Economic Policy began, which made it possible to begin industrialization for Stalin.
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    3. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 7 November 2013 18: 33
      +1
      You smash nonsense. My grandfather told me that life was normal under Lenin, but after his death they started to tighten the screws. I believe my grandfather as an eyewitness of events more than yours, the knowledge of those times is not taken from where.
  • Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 7 November 2013 15: 14
    +2
    Quote: Boris55
    For some reason, it seems to me that many people confuse the 17-th Jewish coup with the achievements of the reign of the Russian Georgian, as he called himself, I.V. Stalin. The backlog he made allowed the Soviet Union to exist for 40 years after his assassination by the Trotskyists.

    I agree to all 100 !!!
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 19: 30
    +4
    Quote: Boris55
    The slogan, on every Soviet newspaper, in the upper right corner - "Workers of all countries unite"

    In 1943, they were removed from combat banners - the Allies, to put it mildly, were perplexed - what kind of proletarians, where, in Germany, Italy, France ....
    1. Aleksys2
      Aleksys2 7 November 2013 21: 18
      0
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      In 1943, they were removed from battle flags - the allies, to put it mildly, were perplexed - what kind of proletarians

      Medya, you need to drink less, then the memory will be stronger:
      So:
      The Regulation on the revolutionary Red Banners was announced by order of the PBC of the USSR No. 606 of 5 of October 1926 of the year, and by order of the PBC of the USSR No. 57 of 3 of February of 1927 of the year the Instructions for the application of the said decree of the CEC were put into effect, a drawing and description of the Red Banner were announced. According to the description, on one side of the banner was the emblem of the USSR, above it the slogan "Workers of all countries, unite." In the upper left corner is a Red Army star. Under the emblem is the name of the unit. On the other side is a red star with a hammer and sickle and the words "CEC of the USSR."
      Since 1937 of the year, instead of “CEC of the USSR”, on all banners they began to write “Supreme Council of the USSR”, the number of ribbons in the coat of arms of the coat of arms also changed.
      After the start of World War II, already in July 1941 of the year, the Moscow City Party Committee decided to present combat banners to the regiments and divisions of the Moscow people's militia. The text of the resolution said: "military banners - a symbol of revolutionary fidelity to the motherland, the Soviet government, the Bolshevik party, a symbol of victory over the enemy."
      18 of September 1941 of the year, after the first successful offensive operation of the Soviet troops near Yelnya (30 of August - 8 of September) in which the 100, 127, 153 and 161 I rifle divisions of the 24 Army were especially distinguished, by decision of the Supreme Command and by order of the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR I.V. Stalin for No. 308 the named divisions were renamed respectively the 1, 2, 3 and 4 guards rifle divisions. The same order said: "In accordance with the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, these divisions should be given special Guards Banners." Thus, the foundation was laid not only for the revival of the Guard, but also for the introduction of a special kind of banners.
      On December 24 of 1942, new banner designs were approved for the rest, not guards, military units and the navy.
      A hammer and sickle made of colored silk are sewn on one side of the cloth in the center. The slogan "For our Soviet Motherland" is embroidered in golden silk along the upper and lower edges of the cloth. On the other side of the panel, in the center, there is an appliqué: a five-pointed star made of burgundy silk with embroidery in golden silk along the edges and colored silk in the form of rays along the surface of the star. The number and name of the military unit are embroidered under the star in golden silk.
      In June 1942, Red 3 names were established for the Guards Corps and the Army.
      In July 1975, by Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR, a new “Regulation on the Combat Banner of the military unit of the USSR Armed Forces” was introduced, in accordance with which the “red banner” was officially called the “combat banner” of the unit. These banners existed until the collapse of the USSR.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 22: 40
        +3
        Quote: Aleksys2
        Medya, you need to drink less, then the memory will be stronger:

        You did not pour me to the brim?
        Do not put the "remake" under my nose.
  • Karlsonn
    Karlsonn 7 November 2013 19: 43
    +2
    Quote: Boris55
    For some reason, it seems to me that many confuse the Jewish coup of 17


    It is only in your head, in history it is the Great October Revolution!
  • Prometheus
    Prometheus 7 November 2013 09: 34
    25
    Summarize:
    1. Russia was not destroyed by the Bolsheviks, but by the Februaryists and the accumulated internal problems.
    2. Soviet power was welcomed by the majority of the population.
    3. After October, contradictions between the cosmopolitans (Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev and Co.) and the sovereigns (Stalin, "add it yourself") began to grow in power.
    4. The sovereigns defeated, Trotsky received an ice pick, the rest were shot.
    5. Towards a brighter future!
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 19: 55
      +4
      Quote: Prometheus
      1. Russia was not destroyed by the Bolsheviks, but by the Februaryists and the accumulated internal problems.

      It is possible in more detail about the MAIN - about accumulated problems, and then somehow shyly drop my eyes, including the author of the article ...
      Quote: Prometheus
      2. Soviet power was welcomed by the majority of the population.

      Until early 1918. When the people drank Bolshevik happiness, the slogans appeared "Soviets - without Bolsheviks!", And then the sailor Zheleznyak came. fool
      1. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 7 November 2013 20: 23
        +3
        Quote: stalkerwalker
        Until early 1918. When the people drank Bolshevik happiness, the slogans appeared "Soviets - without Bolsheviks!"


        and in 1918 and after, in Siberia, people drank so much Kolchakism that only feathers flew away from whites.
        Dogs in villages in Siberia and the Far East are still called Kolchak.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 22: 42
          +3
          Quote: Karlsonn
          and in 1918 and after, in Siberia, people drank so much Kolchakism that only feathers flew away from whites.
          Dogs in villages in Siberia and the Far East are still called Kolchak.

          After all, the "white terror" WAS THE ANSWER to the RED terror.
          1. Proud.
            Proud. 7 November 2013 22: 52
            +4
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            After all, the "white terror" WAS THE ANSWER to the RED terror.

            Red terror, was the answer to white.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 23: 03
              +3
              Quote: Be proud.
              Red terror, was the answer to white.

              Again...
              I understand - you have a holiday.
              But follow in the footsteps of Fyodor’s father should not.
          2. Karlsonn
            Karlsonn 7 November 2013 23: 21
            +4
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            After all, the "white terror" WAS THE ANSWER to the RED terror.


            Come back for the desk. The materiel is limping on both legs, or is it ...

            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 23: 30
              +4
              Quote: Karlsonn
              Come back for the desk. The materiel is limping on both legs, or is it ...

              Do you smoke everything?
              Or switched to mushrooms? laughing
              1. Karlsonn
                Karlsonn 8 November 2013 01: 31
                +2
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                Do you smoke everything?
                Or switched to mushrooms?


                You have a snack there, have a snack, otherwise tomorrow the head is bo-bo ... laughing

      2. Prometheus
        Prometheus 8 November 2013 08: 05
        +1
        1. Agricultural, land, Polish issues. Stratification of the population, corruption. Radicalism.
        2. There were excesses. Combo, massacre in Kronstadt and Helsingfors. But the slogans you presented sobered up the Bolsheviks, they shot at the most cruel. And then there was white terror, wormwood on the Angara, the noisy nights of Spassk, the Novorossiysk evacuation and the collapse of Yugorossia. After that a new milestone was opened in the history of our country and humanity.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 09: 29
          +3
          Quote: Prometheus
          After that a new milestone was opened in the history of our country and humanity.

          Everything in you, as in a fairy tale, happens by itself.
          Either sadists are changing each other as chairman of the Cheka, or people, like on a holiday, are moving en masse, some to Solovki, some to Siberia, and someone straight to the churchyard.
          1. Prometheus
            Prometheus 8 November 2013 12: 34
            0
            Massively - how much? And yes, what are the irretrievable losses (repressed) for 1921-1954?
  • fisherman
    fisherman 7 November 2013 09: 35
    +6
    U N.V. Starikova Pts. understandably and consistently described these events, I recommend reading.
  • avt
    avt 7 November 2013 09: 37
    19
    This is no less significant date than the Bastille Day of the Franks, which they celebrate with a military parade. And at the same time, they do not spit on him like today's liberoids, avenging their ancestors, as a rule, commissars in dusty helmets, “calmed down” in the 30s, so that they do not burn the country in the furnace of the world revolution, fulfilling their slogan - “we are on woe to all the bourgeoisie, we will fan the world fire. "So the holiday is real and no matter how they call it, a coup there, a day of reconciliation, it is and will remain the Day of the October Revolution. It is the revolution, since the turn in building society on completely different ideological foundations was actually carried out. So, Happy Holidays! With a memorable date in our history of the world scale, great and tragic with the fall and rise. We have something to be proud of and remember, and everything both tragic and great.
    1. badger1974
      badger1974 7 November 2013 15: 27
      +4
      and I’d like to add, the heads of the rabbit Louis and the Queen were pulled under the general screech of the crowd, so there’s nothing to do of the hero from Nikolashka, he crap the country and the point, according to him
    2. Karlsonn
      Karlsonn 7 November 2013 20: 25
      +3
      Quote: avt
      This is no less significant date than the Franks have the day of the capture of the Bastille, which they celebrate with a military parade. Nor do they spit on him like the current liberoids
      1. Danilka
        Danilka 7 November 2013 23: 12
        -2
        Do you know how the Great French Revolution ended? Do you remember the Jacobins and the directory? Napoleon. Although I agree that in a sea of ​​blood the French have come to a modern model of the republic
        1. Karlsonn
          Karlsonn 8 November 2013 01: 36
          +4
          Quote: Danilka
          Do you know how it ended


          We are in the know, here, in general, mostly literate people gathered.

          Quote: Danilka
          . although I agree that in the sea of ​​blood the French have come to a modern model of the republic


          The moral of this rhetorical question is that the French, despite the fact that their ancestors poured blood on the river, are proud of their ancestors and celebrate Bastille Day, and they all call on us to repent, but try to convince our ancestors of ghouls and bloody executioners, and history to the heap rewrite. True sucks, hands of scribes from the back grow.
  • Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 7 November 2013 09: 41
    24
    All workers, and generally all who earn their bread by their labor, on a holiday! Only now, dear friends, in your own skin, you begin to understand how right our ancestors were who threw off this capitalist yoke. Hopeless, hopeless, empty to the point of life, the meaning of which is running for money. Life permeated with eternal fear. Fear of losing a job, fear of not repaying a loan, fear of falling ill with something serious, because prevention and treatment can not afford it, fear of being robbed or even killed on the street. And this is an eternal feeling of its insignificance and uselessness. This is what life is under capitalism, and the vast majority of the people live like that. And so they lived before the revolution, until they found the strength in themselves to put an end to this idiocy.
    1. hook
      hook 7 November 2013 22: 00
      0
      Self-defense is your everything ... Self-defense on the person-Chichester in your hands-there ocean-can you help without limit?
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 7 November 2013 09: 46
    10
    Happy holiday! Happy anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution!
    The Bolsheviks are marginalized. That's cool! People who are loyal to the idea of ​​being called random, clinging are great!
    This year there is an interesting trend in the attitude of the authorities towards the holiday. If last year so much dirt was poured in a month .... then this year silence. Whatever the event. Not yet evening?
  • crbvbyjr
    crbvbyjr 7 November 2013 09: 48
    +7
    Happy holiday comrades! He will still be on our street.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 08
      -14 qualifying.
      Quote: crbvbyjr
      he will still be on our street.

      There will be no more revolutions, no more Russians will kill Russians! Celebrate Thousands yourself, as Judah Lenin said.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 11: 47
        13
        end novels with garbage to suffer, no one wants revolutions, but to make sure that the Bolsheviks are to blame for everything, and Nikolasha is all holy and with wings the top of idiocy
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 12: 10
          -7
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          but to dry

          Did you write everything, or did you torment heartburn?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 12: 13
            +9
            your arguments are, as always, "killer"
            and besides these "arguments" eats, what to add? !!!!
            or, as always, nikolashka did everything right, was he just out of luck with the people? !!!!

            p / s / pull out one word and comment on it the top is not the ability to dispute
        2. Sour
          Sour 7 November 2013 17: 17
          +2
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          but to make sure that the Bolsheviks are to blame for everything, and Nikolashka is all holy and with wings the top of idiocy

          I agree completely, and always shared this point of view.
          I’ll also add that I consider the height of idiocy when American agents were to blame for the collapse of the USSR, and the communists were saints with wings.
      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 7 November 2013 20: 27
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Celebrate yourself


        And we didn’t call you comrade for our holiday.
        And they did not congratulate you, so do not worry. wink
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 7 November 2013 09: 56
    12
    One way or another, but the communists raised the power in Russia lying in the mud (just like now), dealt with the White Guards, anarchists and bandits and, most importantly, filthy liberals, even if Lenin or Stalin were "agents of all the intelligence services of the world" then the current "incorruptible patriots" they do not even reach the level of "agents". But in the end, it was the communists, whether we like it or not (although only State Department agents and fools may not like it), brought Russia / the USSR into a superpower, returning what ingloriously pro..ali liberoids.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 10: 23
      -7
      Quote: Standard Oil
      , dealt with the White Guards

      Well, yes, a neighbor was killing a neighbor, because he was for white-excellent good
      Quote: Standard Oil
      , even if Lenin or Stalin were "agents of all intelligence services in the world

      Oh, I put Judah Lenin to Stalin in one row, and if you think about it, though you shouldn’t. You will come to the conclusion that Lenin made a revolution on foreign loot wink
      Quote: Standard Oil
      But in the end, it is the Communists whether we like it or not (although only State Deputies agents and fools can not like it) that brought Russia / the USSR into superpowers, returning that it was inglorious about ... liberoids.

      Yeah, balabol Zyuganov, who at one stroke rejected his own words of criticism regarding McKein. But it was worth it only to the State Department to mention his name laughing
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 7 November 2013 10: 44
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Oh, Judah Lenin to Stalin put in one row

        This is not a new provocation. Separate the Bolshevik Lenin from the Bolshevik Stalin. Yeah. Now they believe it.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 00
          -5
          Quote: There was a mammoth
          Separate the Bolshevik Lenin from the Bolshevik Stalin.

          Remind me how many Bolsheviks did Lenin shoot Stalin? It’s a pity I didn’t finish everyone
      2. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 7 November 2013 11: 13
        13
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, yes, a neighbor was killing a neighbor, because he was for white-excellent

        Well, my great-grandfather went over to the side of the Reds, when Nicholas 2 freed him from the oath of abdication, and he was among other things a military doctor, I don’t know whether he killed the neighbors or not, he probably still healed because he was a respected man all his life, but I’m that he was for the Reds and I will be for the Reds, for I believe him more than all historians combined.
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Oh, I put Judah Lenin to Stalin in one row, and if you think about it, though you shouldn’t. You will come to the conclusion that Lenin made a revolution on foreign loot

        I put Lenin and Stalin on the same line because they all worked together at that time, they did a common thing, maybe the German General Staff gave money to Lenin, maybe the Bank of England, maybe the US Federal Reserve, maybe Chilean intelligence, maybe all together, tell the people who gave money? Could it be that the long ears of the same Bank of England and the Federal Reserve stick out? So you can throw a stone at anyone, from Kerensky to Lenin ...
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yeah, balabol Zyuganov, who at one stroke rejected his own words of criticism regarding McKein. But it was worth it only to the State Department to mention his name

        And what does Papa Zyu have to do with it? I never respected and will not respect the modern Communist Party. I didn’t say a word about them. I mean the true Communists who really raised the country, and not about scoops.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 47
          -7
          Quote: Standard Oil
          x, for I believe him more than all historians combined.

          Believe it.
          Quote: Standard Oil
          Are the ears of the same Bank of England and the Federal Reserve sticking out long? So you can throw a stone at anyone from Kerensky to Lenin ..

          Then it may be worth writing the truth, and not whitewash the corrupt acts of a person.
          Quote: Standard Oil
          I'm talking about the true Communists, who really raised the country, and not about the scoops, got along.

          And, well, you are talking about Stalin, there the post was left above, in line with which country Stalin received from Lenin.
      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 11: 50
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        LENIN revolutionized foreign loot

        and who argues with this, do not tell me another question, but how could it happen that, in fact, one of the smallest parties managed to gain power ?? !!!!
        maybe because those who were before her did not deal with the fate of Russia? !!!
        this also applies to the last Emperor and the interim government
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 12: 14
          +1
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

          and who argues with this

          Yes, almost all laughing
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          , do not tell me another question, but how could it happen that in fact one of the smallest parties managed to get power ?? !!!!

          Now tell me how all the major plants in modern Russia ended up with a handful of Jews? Yes wink
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          maybe because those who were before her did not deal with the fate of Russia? !!!

          From, is it a holiday for Yeltsin? Or you don’t see any coincidences, who received everything both in 1917 and 1991. Name the names and be surprised.
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      4. plebs
        plebs 7 November 2013 16: 34
        -1
        Well, yes, a neighbor was killing a neighbor, because he was for white-excellent
        Well, yes, a neighbor was killing a neighbor, because he was for the Reds, excellent
      5. Passer
        Passer 7 November 2013 23: 21
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, yes, a neighbor was killing a neighbor, because he was for white-excellent

        Well, yes, and the other neighbor killed the neighbor, only on suspicion of sympathy for the Reds.
    2. faraon
      faraon 7 November 2013 11: 49
      +2
      From what dirt did the Bolsheviks Leninists lift the country? Into which they themselves lowered. Plunged into civil chaos, plundered, the country was on the brink. Lenin's task was to destroy the country, which he did, he was not a creator, he was a destroyer. The revolution rested on international bayonets , (think or dig into the archives how many German prisoners of war were in Russia before the revolution) Or a simple example of the Czech rebellion as they ended up in Russia.
      Stalin was, on the contrary, the creator of .a rather the collector of the lands and riches of Russia and should not be put on a par with Lenin.
      Yes, during his reign there were many so-called not popular measures. But in the situation at that time in the country it could not be otherwise. It was already put on the rails of building socialism (according to PLATO) and therefore should have overcome this period of evolution as soon as possible. And this is directly confirmed by the material base for building a new society. With which Lenin left the country to Stalin, the chaos of the civil war, an empty treasury, famine, devastation, and that with which Stalin left it after death. The industrial power that defeated the most stony war, went into space.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 11: 53
        +5
        Quote: faraon
        What dirt did the Bolsheviks of Leninists lift the country? Into which they themselves lowered. Plunged into civil chaos, plundered, the country was on the verge. Lenin's task was to destroy the country, which he did, he was not a creator, he was a destroyer

        the main mistake is the discussion of various personalities in isolation from previous historical events, do not tell who destroyed the unity of command in the army and when ?! What was the economic situation from February to October 17? !!!!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 12: 16
          +3
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

          the main mistake is a discussion of various personalities in isolation from previous historical events,

          Sorry, but when we discuss the "merits" of Gorbaty and Yeltsin, do we tear one apart from the other?
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          What was the economic situation from February to October 17? !!!!

          Compare what happened in 1991 and ......... what conclusions will you have?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 12: 44
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Compare what happened in 1991 and ......... what conclusions will you have?

            once again I will ask you a question are you from Odessa? !!!
            Now we do not compare 17 and 91, but even if we talk about it, 91 also did not arise from the air before that was 85 and before it 56.
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 7 November 2013 09: 56
    11
    "Let the temporary damage drive us
    In darkness, in cold, in defeat, in hunger:
    No, it’s no coincidence that the new coat of arms
    Burned over the world - Hammer and Sickle!

    We will again dig the land through labor,
    The enemy sword will be split again:
    No wonder we, shining with a sickle,
    They threw together a powerful hammer.

    But boldly thought in such days
    Fly over the edge into planetary cold!
    The universal sickle, planting the truths of life,
    Thickness of the secrets of the fraction, universal hammer!

    The world has lived for a long time! Pretty lies!
    Like in autumn, the fruit is ripe gold,
    In a single sheaf, sickle, put us in
    Forge us into a single base, hammer!

    But forever by the light of spring willows
    The spirit of man is fresh and young!
    Points for a new harvest sickle,
    Save the hammer for a new battle "
    Happy holiday, comrades!
  • vlbelugin
    vlbelugin 7 November 2013 10: 05
    13
    Happy Holidays!
    I am grateful to the revolution, the Soviet government, that I, the grandson and son of the miners, were allowed to graduate, to become an officer. Perhaps it was before 1917? No. And now, every year, the children of workers and peasants are making it harder and harder. Some time will pass and this, sadly, will become impossible.
  • Mhpv
    Mhpv 7 November 2013 10: 21
    12
    Autumn in Russia was often fruitful for great events!
    So all Chubais, Friedman, Vekselberg and so on, it makes sense to think about their future.

    Unlike corrupt politicians, we, the generation of the USSR, were raised with this and we have nothing to be ashamed of, this is our story!
    1. atalef
      atalef 7 November 2013 13: 11
      -3
      Quote: mhpv
      Autumn in Russia was often fruitful for great events!
      So all Chubais, Friedman, Vekselberg and so on, it makes sense to think about their future.

      Unlike corrupt politicians, we, the generation of the USSR, were raised with this and we have nothing to be ashamed of, this is our story!


      I prefer the picture of Lenin in Poland (or in the Spill) to choose from, it’s a pity that I didn’t stay there, the bloody time, the bloody regime, what happened after that. The October Revolution may have proclaimed beautiful ideas-- Power to the people, factories for the workers, land to the peasants, --- did they give this to the peoples of Russia? Definitely not
      1. Mhpv
        Mhpv 8 November 2013 14: 50
        -1
        Quote: atalef
        bloody time, bloody regime

        Do you need to say? Here are just a few:
        Of course, the desire of the Ziono-Masonic circles for world domination has not been a secret for the West for a long time, but the Zionist circles of the Politburo and all the highest power structures of the USSR protected this secret as the highest shrine. Not for nothing that even the ministers of the USSR, not to mention the higher military hierarchy, were simpletons in this matter. But since the middle of the XIX century, their total struggle for this domination began, it is enough to read the works of adherents of Zionism and Jewish terrorism of the last century. The world wars and revolutions unleashed by them not only fabulously enriched them, but also steadily brought them closer to their cherished goal. Our terrible XX century has become the time of the struggle of healthy national forces of different countries with Zion-Masonic leprosy.

        Unfortunately, the methods of combating such universal evil on the basis of certain rules and laws stipulated by Christian morality and virtue have clearly demonstrated their complete failure. World Zionism and Freemasonry are the enemies of mankind, for which there simply do not exist any restraining principles in the field of cruelty, meanness, lies and greed, in the matter of achieving the goal.
        We see that the 20th century has become a century of global success for international Zionism and Judaized Freemasonry around the globe. They not only “conquered” and governing behind the scenes all the developed countries of Europe, penetrated Japan and China, South America, Africa and even Australia, but also took under their total control two major powers of the world: the USA and Russia.
        Why are they in such a hurry?

        Because the beginning of the 21st century will not only be the century of the collapse of their citadel - the Empire of Evil and Meanness - the United States of America, their strategic financial weapons - the dollar, world Zionism and Freemasonry, but it can also lead to the widespread destruction of the satanic tribe of destroyers.


        http://poiskpravdy.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/zion/
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  • apostrophe
    apostrophe 7 November 2013 10: 24
    +4
    Happy holiday friends!
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 7 November 2013 10: 30
    11
    Get up, cursed branded
    The whole world of hungry and slaves!
    Our mind is seething
    And the mortal battle is ready to lead!
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 November 2013 13: 26
      +3
      I if no man
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Get up, cursed branded
      The whole world of hungry and slaves!
      Our mind is seething
      And the mortal battle is ready to lead!


      And if a person is neither hungry nor a slave? And his mind is not indignant, what should he do?
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 7 November 2013 15: 25
        +7
        I wish everyone had it ... But the International was written for the hungry and slaves and raised them to the fight for freedom, equality and fraternity! A well-fed hungry does not mean.
      2. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 7 November 2013 15: 30
        +1
        Quote: RUSS

        And if a person is neither hungry nor a slave? And his mind is not indignant, what should he do?

        It means that he is either a corpse or libnrast at the feeding trough (but before the feeding trough he was very indignant at once, otherwise he would not have gotten to the feeding trough). wassat
        1. Danilka
          Danilka 7 November 2013 17: 24
          -1
          But there were enterprises where the workers had created all the conditions and the chorus of zp. And the question is, do they need revolution and civil war? Do you think they are liberals?
          1. Peaceful military
            Peaceful military 7 November 2013 17: 56
            -1
            Quote: Danilka
            But there were enterprises where the workers had created all the conditions and the chorus of zp. And the question is, do they need revolution and civil war? Do you think they are liberals?

            Dear Danilka!
            In honor of DATE and for inquisitiveness, raised your rating.
            But seriously, read, at least Gilyarovsky, or Gorky about how the vast majority of the working people lived. I can’t recall a single case, as you say
            after all, there were enterprises where the workers created all the conditions and the choir
            Not that time was, especially in RI. Yes and everywhere ...
            Even if there were oases, what did they mean in general? Nothing.
  • Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 7 November 2013 10: 32
    11
    To all opponents of the "Great October Socialist Revolution" ... After all, it might burst out! soldier drinks
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 7 November 2013 11: 17
      +5
      Do you mean to overtake the Aurora to the Moskva River?
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 7 November 2013 15: 32
        +1
        Quote: Nagan
        Do you mean to overtake the Aurora to the Moskva River?

        M. Weller has such a novel laughing
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 8 November 2013 05: 53
          +1
          Quote: Peaceful military
          M. Weller has such a novel laughing
          Honestly - I didn’t read it, and in general I learned for the first time that there is such a novel. But I am glad that I'm not the only one who came up with such an idea - which means that the idea is not completely crazy. I was already curious to read how the novel is called?
      2. Passer
        Passer 7 November 2013 23: 25
        +2
        Quote: Nagan
        Do you mean to overtake the Aurora to the Moskva River?

        The idea is very good!
  • w2000
    w2000 7 November 2013 10: 33
    +9
    Happy holiday comrades! The pendulum of history will swing, and the truth will triumph! Many people on Earth believe in the ideals of October, and are ready to fight when the time comes.
  • nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 7 November 2013 10: 46
    +6
    “The Bolsheviks are often accused of destroying the“ old Russia ”, but this is not true. The Russian Empire was killed by the“ Februaryists. ”The“ fifth column ”included: part of the generals, top dignitaries, bankers, industrialists, representatives of the liberal democratic parties, many of whom were members of Masonic lodges, most of the intelligentsia, who hated the “prison of peoples.” In general, most of the “elite” of Russia destroyed the empire with their own hands. It was these people who killed “old Russia”. " There are no doubts here, but now it is this water, which dances on the body of the crucified country and does not allow it to rise, blames the Bolsheviks for its activities in the collapse of Russia.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 01
      -1
      Quote: nov_tech.vrn
      The “fifth column” included: part of the generals, senior dignitaries, bankers, industrialists, representatives of liberal democratic parties, many of whom were members of Masonic lodges, most of the intelligentsia, who hated the “prison of peoples”

      So this is all close Lenin laughing
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 20: 02
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: nov_tech.vrn
        The “fifth column” included: part of the generals, senior dignitaries, bankers, industrialists, representatives of liberal democratic parties, many of whom were members of Masonic lodges, most of the intelligentsia, who hated the “prison of peoples”
        So this is all close Lenin

        Alexander, where does this energy come from? I envy.
        After reading, I was overcome by despondency. It seems that all the polls AGAIN thirst to TAKE AND SHARE. Either tired of working, or simply do not want to ...
        Good luck to you !
        1. Passer
          Passer 7 November 2013 23: 30
          +2
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          It seems that all the polls AGAIN thirst to TAKE AND SHARE.

          Do you have something to take away and share? Sorry, Roman Arkadievich, I somehow did not recognize you. Or is it Alisher Burkhanovich?
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 23: 56
            +3
            Quote: Passer
            Do you have something to take away and share? Sorry, Roman Arkadievich, I somehow did not recognize you. Or is it Alisher Burkhanovich?

            Thanks for the compliment.
            What is mine is mine.
            I don’t need someone else’s.
  • Nayhas
    Nayhas 7 November 2013 11: 00
    -5
    The October coup is the most tragic page in the history of Russia, and after all, just a year later, it would have been impossible ... Studying further events, it seems that the "punishment of the Lord" befell all the peoples participating in the destruction of Russia:
    Jews are no secret that their participation was the most extensive, as a result, millions of Jews died at the hands of the Nazis nurtured by the Bolsheviks ...
    The Germans have already written a lot about their project "Lenin" and their role in the October coup is the most important. As a result, millions of Germans died in World War II ...
    Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians-made up the core of the punitive units of the Bolsheviks, guarded the government. As a result, the Baltic countries were forcibly joined to the USSR, and thousands of their citizens paid for it with their lives ...
    The Czechs, Austrians, Hungarians, Chinese, they were engaged in punitive operations on the territory of Russia, suppressing ruthlessly any protests against the Bolsheviks. Thanks to their inhuman cruelty, the Bolsheviks remained in power. The most interesting thing is that the Czechs regularly reminding about the Prague Spring somehow do not try to demolish the monument to the 5th Red Army Commissioner Yaroslav Hasek, who, together with Chinese, Hungarian and Czech mercenaries, killed the Russians in order to establish that authority which in the future will suppress the very Prague spring ...
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 7 November 2013 14: 22
      +5
      Hmm, the White Guard agitators turned out to be the survivors of the Reds, however. You only in Siberia do not tell anyone that the Czechs were killing the enemies of power. There, I think, they still remember who the Czech corps punished.
    2. Gur
      Gur 7 November 2013 15: 53
      +5
      My dear, but on the side of the whites, who did not speak? there were no whites, there were no British, French, Americans, Japanese, God, but who weren’t there ... and the whole revolution was protected from us by Estonians, Latvians, Czechs? Do not carry chern, the people with bare hands carried almost all of them. And if the people didn’t need this revolution, believe me, whoever could not keep it.
  • Aleksys2
    Aleksys2 7 November 2013 11: 01
    +4
    Happy Holidays!
  • faraon
    faraon 7 November 2013 11: 14
    -2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: crbvbyjr
    he will still be on our street.

    There will be no more revolutions, no more Russians will kill Russians! Celebrate Thousands yourself, as Judah Lenin said.

    Romanov, A. tebe +, in this I will support you
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 49
      0
      Quote: faraon
      , A. tebe +, in this I will support you

      I read your post above +
  • samoletil18
    samoletil18 7 November 2013 11: 19
    +5
    This entire "fifth column" was meant by Lenin, calling them "Shit of the nation." Who escaped from this category, who was shot, who was sent on the "philosophical steamer". I do not quite agree with the author: Russia did not need to drown itself in the blood of the civil war, but all this liberal, thieving, elite type had to be stopped, otherwise the end of the country.
    Here are just some model, different from the Trotskyist-Leninist utopia, already proposed by Stalin. And true revolutionaries did their utmost to destroy the Empire. Here is the reason for the repression against Ilyich’s comrades-in-arms, but this is a completely different story ...
    1. faraon
      faraon 7 November 2013 12: 33
      +2
      Here are just some model, different from the Trotskyist-Leninist utopia, already proposed by Stalin. And true revolutionaries did their utmost to destroy the Empire. Here is the reason for the repression against Ilyich’s comrades-in-arms, but this is a completely different story ...

      Yes, Stalin did not propose any new utopia. He had no choice but to restore the country. To punish those guilty of plundering the country, to return the loot. For that period of time there was only one way antique Platonic socialism. In order to lift the country from its knees, huge material and human resources united by one ideology and purpose.
      That’s what the followers of Stalin, in the faces of the secretaries-general, have missed ....... whether this is a great legacy and brought the country to a handle is another story that needs to be discussed in another topic
  • Klim podkova
    Klim podkova 7 November 2013 11: 19
    +4
    As any global phenomenon (no one, I hope, does not deny, the October revolution was an event of global significance?) The events of October / November of 1917 cannot be interpreted as unequivocally positive or negative. The greatest merit of the October Revolution is that it made capitalism better, but the peoples of the Russian Empire paid for it, and at the highest price.

    I am equally dear to the factory boy who volunteered for the front, and the barefoot Junker, who turned out to be his enemy. Everyone had their own truth. And we still divide each other into red and white. Or maybe we should stop grabbing each other's breasts? We still can not determine who should reconcile and agree with whom on November 4, but the answer is on the surface.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 7 November 2013 20: 07
      +5
      Quote: Klim Podkova
      And we still divide each other into red and white. Or maybe you should stop grabbing each other's breasts? We still can’t determine who should reconcile and agree with whom on November 4, and the answer is on the surface.

      And nothing has changed in almost a hundred years - again, the capitalist bloodsuckers, again the crowned one is not driving there. Again Marxism circles with calls for arms and a campaign to the Kremlin.
  • Baton
    Baton 7 November 2013 11: 21
    +5
    And I personally have always rejoiced and am still glad of this holiday. Moreover, on this day is my birthday, and it was always a day off, and the "favorite democrats" took this day off.
    Happy holiday, comrades!
  • faraon
    faraon 7 November 2013 11: 26
    +2
    Quote: Egoza
    But more such a mistake is not allowed! so do not spit in the REVOLUTION, if you do not want it to repeat as bloody! hi


    There will be, and more than once Elena, it has already happened In 1991, it was not so bloody as October 1917, but it happened exactly the same as in the seventeenth. In a moment, everyone remained impoverished with no savings, prospects too, remember barter, privatization vouchers, bankruptcy of enterprises, the export of capital abroad. Berezovsky, Khodarkovsky and others like them (just don’t say that they earned their capital by the power of the mind. They were simply closer to the feeder when distributing the loot). Remember the white house, Yeltsin with the distribution sovereignty. We have not yet left the revolution, but only see a pointer to an exit from this state.
    You say there will be no more mistakes, but there you see the rake has stepped on the same again, and so will be. New Wrenmen, new technologies.
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 7 November 2013 11: 52
      +6
      Quote: faraon
      it has already happened In 1991 .....

      Counterrevolution. We will be exact.
      1. faraon
        faraon 7 November 2013 13: 12
        +3
        Call it what you like, however, the essence does not change from this. The country is in chaos, Funds are being withdrawn from circulation and sailing abroad, people have become impoverished at one point, since the savings have also gone abroad. Privatization vouchers (Lenin's idea to collect and share) You have become the owner of the enterprise? or get dividends from the enterprise.? History repeats itself, nothing new.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 11: 52
      +5
      Quote: faraon
      You say there will be no more mistakes, but there you see the rake has stepped on the same again, and so will be. New Wrenmen, new technologies.

      Eh Russian, Russian-you already from Israel write the obvious, but you do not hear. THIS IS FINISH !!!
      1. Des10
        Des10 7 November 2013 18: 01
        -2
        "The Russians are already writing the obvious from Israel, but you don't hear. THIS IS THE FINISH !!!"
        Whig to you, even though you are pleased.
  • explorer
    explorer 7 November 2013 11: 39
    +3
    And Anyway: Happy Holidays !!! soldier
  • SukhovAM
    SukhovAM 7 November 2013 11: 50
    +3
    Happy Great October Socialist Revolution !!!
  • Yankuz
    Yankuz 7 November 2013 11: 50
    +4
    Seventh November Day - Red Calendar Day !!! ...
    Happy Holidays, dear comrades !!!
  • Vladimir65
    Vladimir65 7 November 2013 11: 53
    +5
    The October Revolution is the result of the dreams of the majority of the people about justice and equality. For modern youth, the Soviet era is a fabulous, mysterious period in the life of the country, when in a short period of time a giant leap forward was made ahead of which there are no analogues in the world. But we turned our backs on socialism and communism because we were weak. After the great upheavals, calm times came and the brain of the people and their leaders began to grow fat, I wanted a well-fed and comfortable life, and the opponents immediately slipped samples and we gave up. Consumerism won. Now it will take a lot of strength, time and human lives to make a turn on the only right path that we have been walking for 70 years to the touch. Happy holiday, October Revolution Day!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 November 2013 12: 20
      -4
      Quote: Vladimir65
      Now it will take a lot of effort, time and human lives to make a turn on the only right way that we have been walking for 70 years to the touch

      Here you pick up the bundle and go, go, go, you need it there. To the touch or like, most importantly without us. We don’t need your revolution. Go to America and build your Marxism Leninism there.
    2. faraon
      faraon 7 November 2013 13: 21
      -1
      . Now it will take a lot of strength, time and human lives to make a turn on the only right path that we have been walking for 70 years to the touch. Happy holiday, October Revolution Day!
      No, they turned and turned and there is nothing to change the direction vector. Yes, to say that the era of developed socialism was bad, no language does not turn, but we all grew up in the era of developed Brezhnev socialism, grew up on its slogans, ideas, etc., etc. P.
      we all cherish that time, the time of our youth.
      but the country has made a U-turn, and now there is no turning back, it needs to develop in that direction in which it is now moving. Enough upheavals of upheavals and chaos will be enough for the Russian people.
  • samoletil18
    samoletil18 7 November 2013 11: 54
    -4
    "Lenin was brought into Russia as a plague bacillus." (W. Churchill)
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 7 November 2013 22: 30
      +3
      It's okay to minus something. Well, Churchill was the head of the union country in the Second World War, but he remained as an enemy. You can throw me more minuses, but I won’t change my opinion about Churchill. He was back in 1915. He confused Russia with all the cards when he insisted on the Dardanelles operation.
  • Gato
    Gato 7 November 2013 11: 55
    +6
    Dear colleagues! Reading the comments, I just want to give out something like "break" stop (well, or there pax vobiscum)
    Almost 100 years have passed, how long can Russians be divided into "red" and "white"?
    Maybe we recall the civil strife - well, is there Ryazan against Suzdal or Tver vs Moscow?
    This is all history. Of course, you need to know her - but why project old conflicts and mistakes into the future?
    1. faraon
      faraon 7 November 2013 12: 44
      +4
      This is all history. Of course, you need to know her - but why project old conflicts and mistakes into the future?

      Yes, because history is such a thing that is constantly repeated only in different time periods. That's why in order to avoid this, or rather to make do with small victims, you need to know history, remember, respect, and not rewrite for the sake of a political moment or a politician
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 7 November 2013 14: 27
      0
      They don't let you know. There will no longer be VOSR in the textbooks, but the continuation of the February bourgeois revolution.
      1. Gato
        Gato 7 November 2013 17: 03
        +2
        Quote: alicante11
        So they don’t let you know. In the textbooks

        Well, history textbooks of any country and any time prove only one thing: "our mother" (country) is the best - and thanks exclusively to the wisdom of the rulers (acting at the time of publication of the textbooks).
        Therefore (my personal opinion) is better to score on history books. It is much more useful to study and compare the testimonies of contemporaries from different sides of the barricades (for example, the memoirs of Trotsky and Denikin, Tukhachevsky and Pilsudsky or Zhukov and Guderian there). Then somewhere at the intersection of subjective opinions you can get approximate an idea of ​​the essence of events.
        And the truth, we still do not know. Just because she is not there.
      2. Danilka
        Danilka 7 November 2013 23: 15
        -2
        How can a social revolution be pro-bourgeois? What did they smoke there? am
    3. Gorinich
      Gorinich 8 November 2013 12: 22
      0
      "This is all - already history ...." Here you are, oh, how wrong ...
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 7 November 2013 12: 08
    +6
    HAPPY GREAT OCTOBER SOCIALIST REVOLUTION!
    It should be noted that the operation of the military-industrial complex was brilliant only with complete passivity and mediocrity of the Provisional Government.
    Here is a vivid illustration of the liberals ...
    BUT!
    Not everything is so simple and flat. Why, all of a sudden, a "humanitarian" intervention began to "save" Russia, with concentration camps for those who are being saved and dozens of people who are being saved? It seems that the liberals threw off the power to the Bolsheviks, having agreed on this with "partners, that those under the guise of" save Russia "will tear it apart, and the involved liberals will be put in charge of colonies and concessions (almost as happened after 1991).
    1. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 7 November 2013 23: 33
      +2
      Great October Festival at the Estonia Theater in 1939Great October Festival at the Estonia Theater in 1939
      HA!
      On November 7, 1939, the Republic of Estonia officially celebrated the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution for the first time. In the Estonia Concert Hall, after the speech of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Ants Piip, the International sounded, and after the speech of the USSR Ambassador Kuzma Nikitin - “Mu isamaa, mu õnn ja rõõm”. http://rus.delfi.ee/daily/estonia/neveroyatno-no-fakt-pri-prezidente-pyatse-v-es

      tonii-otmechali-prazdnik-velikogo-oktyabrya.d? id = 67055206
      And the title fascists are still screaming about the "occupation" fool
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 7 November 2013 23: 52
        +2
        In just one year of 1940, 20 MTS were created in Estonia and 300 new tractors were imported from Russia, which the Germans took from them in 1941 for their needs.
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  • runway
    runway 7 November 2013 12: 14
    +6
    Congratulations to all on the occasion of the Great October Socialist Revolution! No matter how the current government tries to spoil and belittle the significance of this historical event, their efforts are in vain. The revolution made it possible to realize the dreams of mankind for a better life. Everything that the current government seeks to take away from the working people. In my opinion, we lost the country not only because of the betrayal of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, but to a greater extent because of the lack of control over the so-called NOMENCLATURE. Pensioners from the CPSU Central Committee, through the protectionism of "their own", turned a living and rapidly developing advanced socio-economic formation into a swamp.
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  • Criceta
    Criceta 7 November 2013 12: 18
    -9
    ... for more than 70 years, the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution was the main holiday of the Soviet Union

    Maybe at least things should be called by their proper names - not "the great October socialist", but the October revolution? Wash it is good - briefly, without snot and the essence of the process perfectly reflects ...
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 7 November 2013 12: 27
      +5
      Quote: Сriceta
      October coup

      I repeat. Can you name at least one world event of the last century excluding world wars that influenced the fate of the whole planet? Those who want to forget at least the socialist achievements of the USSR are trying to call a coup.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 7 November 2013 13: 18
        +2
        Quote: There was a mammoth
        I repeat. Can you name at least one world event of the last century excluding world wars that influenced the fate of the whole planet? Those who want to forget at least the socialist achievements of the USSR are trying to call a coup.

        In fact, the "October revolt" - these are the words of Lenin himself, later it would become a proletarian revolution, and even later the great October revolution.
        "that a revolution is a successful revolt, and a revolt is a failed revolution" - guess who the author of the words is?

        In order not to spread my thoughts on the tree, I’ll say right away - in that matter the position of Romanov is much closer to me,
        you can blame everything on Nikolloi as much as you like, and rejoice at how quickly and deftly Lenin corrected everything - in fact, everything was much more complicated and worse.

        On the question of the shooting - when the Internet was still in the form of a wap on the phone, there was one dispute, similar to the one above, the person proved to me with all his might how cool it was - they made a revolution, and they shot the king (and even the former) because he could interfere with something there.
        Moreover, he was very saddened by his current situation - not to earn money ...
        But when I suggested that he shoot himself, his wife and children, neighbors and the doctor - so that others would sharply live better - do not believe it - he refused.
        1. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 7 November 2013 14: 05
          -3
          Quote: lelikas
          In fact, the "October revolt" - these are the words of Lenin himself, later it would become a proletarian revolution, and even later the great October revolution.

          Well. Geniuses are also mistaken. wink
          Quote: lelikas
          On the issue of execution ...

          Do not believe it. I also would not want to be shot. Death is a tragedy - this must be understood.
          The ethical side of the execution of the royal family is another question. Moreover, it does not seem to have reached the expected result. Somewhere in the West, it seems like there is the Emperor of All ....
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 7 November 2013 18: 49
            0
            Quote: Was Mammoth
            Somewhere in the West, it seems like there is the Emperor of All ....
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 18: 52
              -1
              pah.
              only a crap with 400 lithium is unclear what house ended, and you are looking at such disgusting night show
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                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 20: 28
                  0
                  By the way, the monarchy in Russia is not the worst, if not the best option, but everything can be brought to the point of absurdity
                  1. Yarosvet
                    Yarosvet 7 November 2013 22: 08
                    +1
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    By the way, the monarchy in Russia is not the worst, if not the best option, but everything can be brought to the point of absurdity

                    How to say, how to say ...

                    We still have a de facto elected, formally constitutional, monarchy that is not controlled by the majority - and what do we have?
                    Where there is no cross control (including power), and the government has no obligation to fulfill the order of the majority, there will always be either arbitrariness or a mess (in our case, both are organically combined).

                    And the pretzels in the picture generally want a king - that is, an uncontrolled, unaccountable, life-long autocrat with the right to transfer power by inheritance - missed legalized slavery.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 8 November 2013 10: 12
                      +1
                      pay attention to the greatest peak Russia achieved precisely under rigid centralized power, and vice versa, the greatest collapse in democracy.
                      Russia Empire in its essence from the very moment of its formation, the emperor (dictator, prince, as you can call it) is the very cementing element that neutralizes the inevitable centrifugal forces.
                      in addition, it is a symbol
                      1. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 8 November 2013 13: 40
                        +1
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        pay attention to the greatest peak Russia reached precisely with tough centralized power
                        The essence of which was to set a goal that corresponded to the interests of the majority, to strictly follow this goal and to strictly comply with the legislation prescribed for this purpose. At the same time, there can be no talk of any authoritarianism or dictate in the Stalinist USSR, since decisions were made collectively.
                        Rigid centralized power is not a synonym for authoritarianism, or autocracy, or anything like that.

                        The problem of the Russian Federation is not that our autocracy is not enough, but that the goals are pursued diverging from the interests of the majority.

                        and vice versa the greatest collapse under democracy
                        And where in modern Russia did you see this miracle?

                        Russia Empire in its essence from the very moment of its formation, the emperor (dictator, prince, whatever you can call it) is the very cementing element that neutralizes the inevitable centrifugal forces
                        You confuse: an empire is only a form, a form does not cement and does not neutralize - the law and repressive mechanisms obliging it to be observed - here they are.

                        in addition, it is a symbol
                        Nonsense and tyranny first of all.
                      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 8 November 2013 14: 05
                        0
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        And where in modern Russia did you see this miracle?

                        maybe I didn’t quite correctly formulate the idea, but I think that you understood the essence and the question from the topic "get more"
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        Nonsense and tyranny first of all.
                        and not a symbol of what is the king in England?
                      3. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 8 November 2013 16: 05
                        0
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        maybe I did not correctly formulate the idea
                        If you mean what is now served under the sauce of democracy, then this is certainly one of the worst options, which is essentially feudalism.

                        and not a symbol of what is the king in England?
                        the British monarchy is also a symbol of stupidity and tyranny.
                      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 8 November 2013 18: 35
                        0
                        Quote: Yarosvet
                        the British monarchy is also a symbol of stupidity and tyranny.

                        in this case, any symbol is stupidity and a banner and a hymn and icons, you either don’t understand what we’re talking about, or you specifically scold, there are symbols around which people come together, the monarch is one of such symbols.
                        with all my non-love of limes, we must give them their symbol their due.
                      5. Yarosvet
                        Yarosvet 8 November 2013 23: 39
                        0
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Perhaps I do not fully understand what you mean.

                        Any symbol, depending on the situation, can be stupid, but the monarch is initially a stupid symbol, since it symbolizes only himself (however, any schizophrenia can be sacred if you try - an example of such an activity is Prokhanov with his metaphysics of the "iron")
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  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 18: 57
    -2
    Quote: There was a mammoth
    more that seems like the expected result did not reach

    Well, why didn’t he? They could have completely released this malacholny and made a symbol out of him. Then perhaps there would be no heap of rulers, perhaps the fragmented movement of the squirrels united, although this rotten family would all have failed
    if, nevertheless, a monarchy is ever established in Russia, then these are for nothing that it is not advisable to let them in and not to let them into Russia
  • Vladimir65
    Vladimir65 7 November 2013 13: 40
    +6
    If we try to apply the term “coup”, then this should be done not in relation to the October, but to the February revolution: after all, in the course of it there was no change in the social system, but just one bourgeois group replaced another. But here it is appropriate to speak of a revolution, because there was a change in the form of power - instead of a monarchy, a bourgeois republic was established.
    On October 25 (November 7), 1917, an epoch-making event occurred without exaggeration. Mankind first saw the possibility of establishing a system in which the exploitation of another person’s labor is prohibited, which is based on the principles of social justice: for equal work - equal wages. The victory of socialism in Russia forced capitalism in Western countries to change dramatically, led to the competition of two socio-economic systems, which won the whole of humanity.
  • Danilka
    Danilka 7 November 2013 23: 20
    0
    Etymologically, a “coup” is the same as revolution: lat. revolutio - turn, flip [3]. However, in political history the concept of “revolution” is applied to large-scale and long-term processes (“a profound qualitative change in the development of any phenomena of nature, society or knowledge” [3]), while the “revolution” applies itself to the event of a change of power, the consequences of which are not necessarily revolutionary in scope. -WIKIPEDIA Feel the essence?
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 12: 59
    +9
    Alexander Romanov, you are an ordinary coward, like your namesake, not being able to argue and prove your point of view, you just cowardly opponents to the blacklist
  • wolf1945
    wolf1945 7 November 2013 13: 14
    +5
    Long live the 96th anniversary of the Great October! ON OCTOBER HOLIDAY KOMSOMOLTSY COMMUNISTS AND JUST A CITIZEN OF THE GREAT COUNTRY OF THE USSR !!! drinks
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 7 November 2013 13: 29
    +3
    The Bolsheviks are often blamed for the fact that they destroyed the "old Russia", but this is not true. The Russian Empire was killed by the "Februaryists." The “fifth column” included: part of the generals, senior dignitaries, bankers, industrialists, representatives of liberal democratic parties, many of whom were members of Masonic lodges, most of the intelligentsia, who hated the “prison of peoples”. In general, most of the "elite" of Russia with their own hands and destroyed the empire.

    That’s the point, and the Bolsheviks saved Russia!
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 7 November 2013 15: 41
      +4
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      ... That’s the point, and the Bolsheviks saved Russia!

      Duc, they are different laughing And they wanted different things in Russia and from Russia.
      Lenin, Trotsky - the international Bolsheviks. Stalin is a national Bolshevik.
      The former believed in the world revolution, and were ready to sacrifice Russia for it.
      The second - nifiga did not see any revolutionary movement in the West, and offered to spit on it and build a normal empire in a single country.
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 7 November 2013 13: 37
    +5
    That's interesting, fans of the White Guards and Democrats howl about the history books copied by the evil Communists, but when they reach the authorities they do the same thing, how do you understand this?
  • RUSS
    RUSS 7 November 2013 13: 44
    -14 qualifying.
    Today is the Day of Mourning and Great Tribulation, the day of the October Revolution.
    The day of the start of the fratricidal Civil War and repression.
    1. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 7 November 2013 14: 14
      +1
      Quote: RUSS
      Today is the Day of Mourning and Great Tribulation, the day of the October Revolution.
      The day of the start of the fratricidal Civil War and repression.

      Dear Maxim!
      The Civil War, well, did not start on this day ...
      This day can be recognized as a day of mourning and great tribulation, BUT ONLY FOR LOST OPPORTUNITIES WHICH THE GREAT OCTOBER SOCIALIST REVOLUTION OPENED AND WHICH WERE REALIZED, and then there was a dislocation of the national brain and GREAT COUNTRYthat was created THANKS TO THE REVOLUTIONcollapsed.
      Already in 25 years, bacchanalia could be healed from a dislocation of the brain.hi
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 7 November 2013 14: 49
        -1
        Dear Andrei, we really missed the opportunities, it was possible to turn things wrong, political changes were brewing, but not those that took place after October 17th.
        1. Peaceful military
          Peaceful military 7 November 2013 15: 03
          +3
          Quote: RUSS
          Dear Andrei, we really missed the opportunities, it was possible to turn things wrong, political changes were brewing, but not those that took place after October 17th.

          Dear Maxim!
          In 1991 they realized what did not work out in February 1917, and what better? Barely survived, and by no means all, and with what losses, territorial, human, economic, military, etc. There was no third way.
          And you forget about the worldwide significance of the GREAT OCTOBER SOCIALIST REVOLUTION. If not for it, then such a glorious system of social protection would not have happened in the post-war countries of Europe, the countries of the community, the United States.
          Etc.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 15: 24
          +1
          Quote: RUSS
          but not those that came true after October 17th.

          why do you omit February 18, do not tell me when the naval officers were killed in Kronstadt, I’ll repeat my question who canceled the one-man command in the army and essentially beheaded it.
          what reforms can be talked about, this is from a series of Hakamada nonsense about the very regulation of markets
          1. Peaceful military
            Peaceful military 7 November 2013 15: 39
            0
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote: RUSS
            but not those that came true after October 17th.

            why do you omit February 18, do not tell me when the naval officers were killed in Kronstadt, I’ll repeat my question who canceled the one-man command in the army and essentially beheaded it.
            what reforms can be talked about, this is from a series of Hakamada nonsense about the very regulation of markets

            Dear Vladimir!
            February 17th, of course. HAPPY GREAT OCTOBER SOCIALIST REVOLUTION!soldier
    2. Passer
      Passer 7 November 2013 23: 40
      +1
      Quote: RUSS
      The day of the start of the fratricidal Civil War and repression.

      Mistake, this date refers to June 12, 1990.
    3. Passer
      Passer 7 November 2013 23: 40
      0
      Quote: RUSS
      The day of the start of the fratricidal Civil War and repression.

      Mistake, this date refers to June 12, 1990.
  • Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 7 November 2013 14: 02
    +3
    Quote: Peaceful military
    Not everything is so simple and flat. Why, all of a sudden, a "humanitarian" intervention began to "save" Russia, with concentration camps for those who are being saved and dozens of people who are being saved? It seems that the liberals threw off the power to the Bolsheviks, having agreed on this with "partners, that those under the guise of" save Russia "will tear it apart, and the involved liberals will be put in charge of colonies and concessions (almost as happened after 1991).

    Really not so simple. I think that we are lucky that the Bolsheviks took power. Although there was a lot of bloodshed later, they nevertheless achieved the unification of the country. And if the liberals had got the power, they would have destroyed it and there would have been no Great and Mighty. The country already got to Lenin not ideally, but also a civil war, so that the restoration of the country's economy fell on Stalin's shoulders (and he did it very well). And as they do not criticize socialism now, there was more order. The collapse of the country began after Stalin, and the further the faster.
    In general, as it were, ALL WITH THE HOLIDAY hi
  • Dejavu
    Dejavu 7 November 2013 14: 53
    -11 qualifying.
    Many talk about the great Soviet past so beautifully, drowning in nostalgia and tears of delight. It's so cute. But would you go back to the Soviet past with queues and shortages for the most ordinary goods? On a salary of 120 rubles and bans on music and movies that you love? I do not argue that it was "hoo", how massive and huge, sweeping, but again - to return to this wonderful past todaywould you want to? It was a lot of good and free, as well as tasteless and wretched. Personally, I would not return to the past, but regretting the past, doing nothing for Russia TODAY is simply wretched.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 November 2013 15: 26
      +4
      Quote: dejavu
      For a salary of 120 rubles and

      but don’t specify what the rent and utilities were, the price of gasoline, bread, meat, children's goods? !!!!!
      Quote: dejavu
      to return to this wonderful past today, would you like to?

      there is a difference between breaking down and upgrading, if you have burned out a vidyuha in your computer, you need to replace it, and not throw away the entire system
    2. Aleksys2
      Aleksys2 7 November 2013 15: 45
      +5
      Quote: dejavu
      with lines and a shortage of the most ordinary goods? For salaries in 120 and the prohibitions on music and movies that you love?

      A salary of 120 Soviet rubles was enough for life, for entertainment, and could still be put aside. Further, what "ordinary goods" were in short supply in 1980? What movies and music were banned?
      1. Bigriver
        Bigriver 7 November 2013 16: 16
        +2
        Quote: Aleksys2
        ... Salaries of 120 Soviet rubles were enough for life, for entertainment, and it was still possible to postpone. Further, what "ordinary goods" were in short supply in 1980? What kind of movie and music were forbidden?

        31 years ago (that is, 1982) for this holiday at work we were given a ration: two kilos of butter, sweets in a box "Bird's milk", a piece of smoked sausage ... I don't remember the rest.
        I received more than 200 rubles, although I was a green kid after school. Enough.
        But the literature, music, openness of the world was definitely not enough.
        I remember a little later, already at Univer, the Strugatsky and Hesse read on typewritten copies. On the volumes of Bulgakov there was a turn to the lucky owner for several months.
    3. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 7 November 2013 16: 46
      +5