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"War remains"In his column, former Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin describes the situation with the next raising of the US debt ceiling. We single out the most interesting places of the article, and then we will try to translate them from liberal to Russian.


Liberal economists speak their own language. This newspeak is quite difficult to understand. Sometimes the statements of liberal economists even require translation.

Former Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin, of course, is a guru among those who are hard to suspect in disliking the United States and the dollar. The more curious about his words about the dollar, published in the newspaper "Kommersant".

True, to understand what Kudrin wrote we need a translation.

In his column, Kudrin describes the situation with the next raising of the US debt ceiling. But this is only a reason to talk about the situation as a whole and the fate of the dollar as the world reserve currency. We single out the most interesting places of the article, and then we will try to translate them from liberal to Russian.

"The primary cause of this situation with budget and debt is considered to be the tough competition of Democrats and Republicans ...

But this stories there are deeper roots, which means that potentially it can have really serious consequences. The essence of the dispute is the size of the federal budget deficit that the United States can afford. The average budget deficit for 2001 – 2007 amounted to 3% of GDP, then rose to 12,9% in 2009, for 2010 – 2012 decreased to average 6,9% of GDP, and in 2013, after the “fiscal cliff”, it will be 5,8% of GDP. But with economic growth last year at the level of 2,8% of GDP, in the current one - about 2% and the expected growth in the next three years around 2,5%, the deficit of more than 3% of GDP for the United States is not permissive. The current deficit means that US debt accumulates at a rate of about $ 1 trillion per year. Its value exceeded $ 17 trillion last week and already amounts to about 106% of GDP.

By itself, such a large debt in the case of the United States does not present such danger at the moment as it would be in any other country.

First, the entire US debt is denominated in dollars, and the country prints them themselves. Secondly, approximately 25% of this debt is made up of the mutual obligations of the US government structures. However, the real danger is a further increase in debt at this rate.

From 2006, debt increased from $ 8,8 trillion to $ 17,7 trillion, that is, doubled. Saving the pace of its increase is fraught with the fate of the dollar itself. Printing money, which everyone criticizes so much, increased the amount of money in the economy by only $ 3 trillion, the money supply grew at a regular rate — around 10% annually — and inflation did not cause much concern. In this case, printing occurs through the purchase of treasury and mortgage bonds. This money can be withdrawn from the economy without any problems by selling the same bonds. But with the state debt the situation is more complicated: if the US government has to repay debts at the expense of cash pumping, the dollar can lose much weight. And that is why the budget deficit needs to be reduced. ”

So, what the “best finance minister” says to us:

1. "The primary cause of this situation with the budget and debt is considered to be the keen competition of the Democrats and the Republicans."

Notice how a typical liberal writes. It is not a cause, but it is considered to be a cause! That is, the difficult situation in the US with the budget ... because of the disputes between the two parties, and not at all because of the "living" of the American state beyond their means. If meteorologists would have said, like liberal economists, they would have written like this: “The onset of winter is considered to be the first cause of the situation with heavy snowfalls”. But not a mess with the organization of the process of snow removal in a particular city by a specific official.

2. “US debt accumulates at a rate of about $ 1 trillion per year. Its value exceeded $ 17 trillion last week and already amounts to about 106% of GDP. ” It is important to note here that even Kudrin cannot already say that everything is alright with the United States, that democracy and free elections will help them overcome all the difficulties in the economy. State debt accumulates at a rate of 1 trillion dollars a year. This means that the USA borrows every year, that is, they spend, without earning a huge amount, in excess of the money earned. For comparison: 1 trillion dollars is about 32 trillion rubles. So the United States, without earning money, spends so much on itself in rubles. The expenditure part of the Russian budget, which almost does not borrow, is in 2013 13 387 340 174,7 thousand rubles.

This means that the United States increases its national debt annually by more than two annual budgets of Russia! That’s the amount they need to REDUCE their expenses so that their incomes coincide with expenses, as simple common sense requires. Is it possible to cut US spending a year “into two Russia”? Impossible. Then all human rights defenders and gays of the planet will be left without defenders and grants, because it will be necessary to drastically reduce the costs of the army, the media and “supporting democracy”.

It's impossible. But to improve the situation, you need more effort. You need to spend less per year than the US earns. To reduce the debt, you need to spend part of the income on its return.

Is such a situation possible? Not. This means that there is practically no economic solution to the problems of world debt. The West and, above all, the United States cannot so drastically reduce their spending without bringing down the entire economy and, most importantly, the worldview of their citizens. They think that their well-being is caused by democracy, and not by the creation of money from the air.

3. “Firstly, the entire US debt is denominated in dollars, and the country prints them themselves. Secondly, approximately 25% of this debt is made up of the mutual obligations of the US government structures. However, the real danger is a further increase in debt at this rate. From 2006, debt increased from $ 8,8 trillion to $ 17,7 trillion, that is, doubled. Saving the pace of its increase is fraught with the fate of the dollar itself. ”

Kudrin is concerned about the same situation. About this he writes. Why I brought his article. After all, the words of other liberals can smile and talk "about conspiracy theories." Let them try to argue with Kudrin, who directly but gently writes, "that the real danger is a further increase in debt at such a pace." And the preservation of such a pace "fraught for the fate of the dollar." But we all see, simply on the basis of bare figures, that they simply cannot slow down the “pace” taken by the Americans!

4. Separately, I would like to disassemble the ma-a-scarlet slyness of Kudrin, who writes: “about 25% of this debt is made up by the mutual obligations of the state structures of the USA themselves” What is it about? Yes, that about 25% of US debt is owned by the Fed. That's who Kudrin, of course, refers to the "state structures."

This means that NOW the entire volume of US debt securities cannot find a buyer! Therefore, the Fed itself is forced to buy treasures, especially those issued for a long time. At 10 – 25 for years, none of the “investors” no longer believes the United States, does not believe in the world system built on the dollar, to the extent that it was yesterday.

But Kudrin cannot write that the Fed is a private structure. Therefore, he writes in the paradox genre that the US state structures are supposed to owe each other a tremendous amount of about 4 trillion dollars. If so, then just let them ... pay off the debts to each other. And the situation will immediately get better. No, they do not. Instead, the% of US debt, remaining unsold and hanging on the Fed's balance, will only grow further.

5. “At the same time, printing takes place through the purchase of treasury and mortgage bonds. This money can be withdrawn from the economy without any problems by selling the same bonds. ”

Here Kudrin tells us what the notorious “quantitative easing” is, under the beautiful name of which the US injects new, unsecured money into its economy. The Fed is buying up on the market unnecessary ones, "junk" mortgage bonds and those same T-Bills (treasury). That's just the conclusion Kudrin does wrong. But only FOR HIM possible. This money, spent on buying up unnecessary IOUs, cannot be withdrawn from the economy. Because no one wants to buy what the Fed has bought out of despair so that the market does not collapse! After all, it was from the lack of demand that the Fed had to buy the bonds of the ruined mortgage funds itself. Who will buy them back?

And now, after analyzing all this, we can come to a very sad, but important conclusion. There is no economic exit from the situation that threatens to collapse the dollar and the entire world economy built on it.

What remains. Saving the dollar is war. I released a book with this title in 2010.
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  1. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 8 November 2013 07: 19
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    Despite the fact that Starikov is a pro-Putin comrade, he is expressed as always very clearly and correctly. Only when will GDP begin to listen? So far, he likes the advice of Dvorkovich and Surkov more.
    1. a52333
      a52333 8 November 2013 07: 32
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      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Starikov proPutinsky comrade
      Fedorov is about Putin, and Starikov, in my opinion, has never directly spoken-FOR. But from this, in my eyes, he is no worse and no better. He speaks correctly, writes well.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 8 November 2013 09: 16
        +3
        Quote: a52333
        and Starikov, in my opinion, never directly spoke out-FOR

        In the book Nationalization of the ruble, it is difficult to understand in another way. At least I understand that.
        1. gsg955
          gsg955 8 November 2013 09: 45
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          Old people are worthy of trust.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 8 November 2013 09: 54
            +3
            Quote: gsg955
            Old people are worthy of trust.

            Maybe until it was pierced. hi
        2. a52333
          a52333 8 November 2013 11: 14
          +7
          It is worth dotting Yo: The nationalization of the ruble is normal. THOSE. this is normal. In my understanding, pro-Putin is Fedorov. I emphasize: I believe that pro-Putin is justifying all policy aspects. Starikov, in my opinion, did not speak or justify. Video for comparison.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 8 November 2013 11: 23
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            Quote: a52333
            . Starikov, in my opinion, did not speak and did not justify

            Starikov, as a member of the Izborsk Club, believes that it is necessary not to change the government, but to get the one to work. that's why I called him pro-Putin. The issue in the treatment of power is controversial, it is very difficult to decide, treat, or amputate. It seems to be too late to treat her, but when you look at the supporters of amputation ... crying
            1. Onyx
              Onyx 8 November 2013 13: 06
              +7
              Do not consider power as a whole, it is not homogeneous. And here I completely agree with Starikov, who says that power is divided into so-called liberals and supporters of the national course. The first need to be "taken out of circulation", and not "amputated" everything to make it clean.
            2. a52333
              a52333 8 November 2013 15: 09
              +2
              My personal opinion: not everything above is so simple. If we compare it with the ocean, then on the surface is the top (what is visible to you and me - that is, "TV viewers), but there are icebergs, most of which are under water, underwater currents, reefs.
              And to us, as viewers, it seems - yes, you’re the captain (GDP), take it to the left, the starpom (DAM) overboard, to the sharks, the redhead to the river. But from above it is seen better.
            3. Evgenij.
              Evgenij. 10 November 2013 17: 21
              0
              amputation gives nothing 17 and 91 years in an example
          2. silver_roman
            silver_roman 8 November 2013 18: 11
            +5
            watched the video from cover to cover. it cannot be said that something new was being said, but none of the speakers claimed to be a sensation. I’m calm in one thing: that there are people who think outside the field of vision of the enemy and talk about problems. It’s bad they only say. And it’s scary that such people can be transferred without having time to bring their thoughts to the people, to convey logic.
            And it is true: the people's liberation movement can last half a century, because war is on our territory. Under the yoke of the Horde, they also lived quite a few.
            Once, in History, it will be written that between the end of the 20th century and the *** year of such a century, the Russian Federation was occupied in connection with the treacherous actions of the last state secretary - MIKHAIL SERGEEVICH GORBACHEV and Co. But only with the advent of comrade ***** *** ****** did the process of liberating our Motherland from the Anglo-Saxon invaders begin! crying
        3. AVV
          AVV 8 November 2013 12: 32
          +3
          While the Fed in the states will be in private hands, nothing good shines for America !!! And Starikov is a high-level expert, he can and should be trusted !!!
      2. Asgard
        Asgard 8 November 2013 09: 26
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        Quote: a52333
        Fedorov proPutinsky,

        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Despite the fact that Starikov is a pro-Putin comrade,


        I agree with both statements ....
        And as often happens, there is no black and white in the world, darkness and light)))
        nuances, Those who know a lot see the shades and components of COLOR ....

        Old man is a smart person, he adapts to the situation, with the nuances he says the right things .... But he does not focus attention-WHO IS GUILT IN THIS ???we have......

        As for the US national debt !!!!!
        This time Congress allowed the government to occupy ANY AMOUNT FOR THE TIME BEFORE FEBRUARY !!!!
        Please pay attention-THIS IS THE FIRST TIME !!! THIS IS NOT AN ECONOMIC DECISION !!!!

        Ahead can only be WAR ...(with aliens))))))
        Unfortunately, people will be killed by the hands of men ...
        So in FEBRUARY a beautifully played PERFORMANCE awaits us ...
        If only .... WHO will not play ahead of the curve and remove the "PRESIDENT_ACTORS" from power .... since the mese-scenes: September 11, "Kursk", "Assad's Chemical Weapons" could be played ONLY WITH GOOD WORK of the puppets (good leaders and bad PRESIDENTS))))
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 8 November 2013 09: 33
          +6
          Quote: Asgard
          So in FEBRUARY a beautifully played PERFORMANCE awaits us ...

          It also seems to me that war will sooner still be, as a result of which a change of registration of a typewriter is possible. Question- WHERE? I'm still confused about the options. hi
          1. APES
            APES 8 November 2013 09: 44
            +8
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Question- WHERE?


            ready to try crying
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 8 November 2013 09: 55
              +3
              Quote: APES
              ready to try crying

              Really to us? drinks
              1. Russ69
                Russ69 9 November 2013 02: 52
                +1
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Really to us?

                But is it necessary? Sooner or later, we step on the same rake. Let it be international currency, some sort of neutral unit.
        2. aksakal
          aksakal 8 November 2013 09: 41
          11
          Quote: Asgard
          But it does not focus, WHO IS GUILT IN THIS ???

          - in my opinion, perfectly accentuates and specifically points a finger. As I understand it, you would like Starikov to point his finger at Putin, and until he pokes at Putin, he
          Quote: Asgard
          does not focus, WHO IS GUILT IN THIS ???

          But, first of all, Starikov does not consider Putin to be guilty of those negative processes, he considers liberals to be guilty of this, and not abstract, quite real ones - Kudrin of the same SABZh, even Medvedev. About Starikov's attitude to the so-called. I don't even say "non-systemic liberal opposition" at all - here many nervously smoke on the sidelines regarding such a bad attitude.
          After all, it was Starikov who clearly noticed the discrepancies between the councils from the same Medvedev and from Putin regarding the pension fund. I don’t remember the details, Medvedev publicly advised investing there, and Putin said that in no case should this be done. On this discrepancy, Starikov believes that a struggle is going on in the Kremlin, a tough struggle. So I don’t know why you didn’t see that Starikov MORE THAN SPECIFICALLY indicates who exactly is to blame for you. Prior to this, your sagacity of doubts did not cause me. Crash random or already system?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 8 November 2013 09: 52
            +6
            Quote: aksakal
            After all, it was Starikov who clearly noticed the discrepancies between the councils from the same Medvedev and from Putin regarding the pension fund
            Good morning. hi And it seems to me that the disagreement between the GDP and the ladies is just a well-planned performance. I would like to make a mistake, but the domestic policy of the government still leaves much to be desired.
            And successes in the outside, so they are in this regard in the same boat with us, as in battle galleys, there are enemies, and here are slaves on oars.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 8 November 2013 10: 06
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              Quote: Ingvar 72
              And it seems to me that the differences between GDP and DAM are just a well-planned performance

              - you know, I have organized a business many times with many different partners - and I have never managed to maintain the unity that is usually at the beginning of a business. Contradictions begin to grow, the difference in vision is growing, understand? In the end, this leads to a break, sometimes to conflict. In music, the same thing. How many musical groups broke up? Despite the desire of millions that they would stay together and continue to create. The exception is Freddie Mercury, but this is only because all his partners, Brian May and others, UNFULLY ACCEPTED Freddie as LEADER. Medvedev did not recognize Putin as such an unconditional leader; moreover, Medvedev spoke many times about his ambitions. And I am forced to recognize Medvedev as a separate person in politics, even though I do not like Medvedev, but nevertheless Medvedev is a person. And if so, then the growth of contradictions is inevitable. Why did you decide that everything is different in politics? Yes, everything is exactly the same.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 10: 44
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                Quote: aksakal
                Why did you decide that everything is different in politics? Yes, everything is exactly the same

                The struggle for power is the peak of the peak of human ambition.
                Even in the first year of the presidency of the LADY with surprise (and then with laughter), he noted the contradictory statements in the press of the LADY and VVP with a difference of one day. But they all concerned the economy. The Skolkovo project is the garden that the LADY irrigates and spills.
                I'm not sure who is more primary in the issue of the "mattress" solution of the state debt - Starikov or Leontyev (the latter in his "Big Game" bluntly said that the United States has no other choice but to "organize" another world "mess" in order to write off debts for of all its participants - the experience of the Second World War), it seems that everything is heading towards this. And Syria was assigned the role of Poland in 1939.
                The Kremlin understood this, the program of rearmament of the army and navy, which had been marking time for many years, received solid economic support, Rogozin was thrown as a "pusher".
                PS I read the links below - the topic has already been chewed up.
              2. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 8 November 2013 10: 55
                +2
                Quote: aksakal
                Contradictions begin to grow, the difference in vision is growing, understand? In the end, this leads to a break, sometimes to conflict.

                It is possible that you are right, but the tactics of playing two cops are also possible. The stakes are too high.
              3. Botanologist
                Botanologist 8 November 2013 20: 57
                +2
                Quote: aksakal
                And I am forced to recognize Medvedev as a separate person in politics, even though I do not like Medvedev, but nevertheless Medvedev is a person.


                We have at the Kursk station such personalities for a hundred. There are more comradely comrades.
              4. Russ69
                Russ69 9 November 2013 02: 55
                0
                Quote: aksakal
                Medvedev is a person.
                Personality, not personality, But many people put on Medvedev, from a liberal cohort ...
            2. SPACE
              SPACE 8 November 2013 10: 45
              +5
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              And successes in the outside, so they are in this regard in the same boat with us, as in battle galleys, there are enemies, and here are slaves on oars.

              A controversial statement, where is it better to be a slave on the oars of the Putin galley or a passenger of the Titanic? Everyone will make a choice.
              ZY When the "shuffling of the deck" begins, countries with high-tech production and with large volumes of commodity exports of such products to the foreign market will be the first to lose. In conditions of uncertainty, iPhones will not be needed. But, in countries with a predominance of commodity imports, domestic production will spur, of course, if you have it ...?))) "Made in the USSR" i.e. we have. laughing It's not just that ...
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 8 November 2013 11: 00
                +3
                Quote: SPACE
                When the "shuffling of the deck" begins, countries with high-tech production and with large volumes of commodity exports of such products to the foreign market will be the first to lose.

                I completely agree with you. And most likely they will make a spearhead from these countries. But only in whose direction will they throw this spear?
                1. SPACE
                  SPACE 8 November 2013 11: 11
                  +1
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  But only in whose direction will they throw this spear?

                  I don’t know, but something suggests that they will not leave, I believe there are "forces" that will slowly lower them to the place originally prepared by fate.
                2. Asgard
                  Asgard 8 November 2013 11: 31
                  +5
                  Oh guys read your posts (aksakal.ingvar, space))
                  Do you seriously think that Putin, DAM, is an independent figure)))))
                  Putin said a speech in Munich and two months later signed FZ-99 (on the presence of NATO troops on Russian territory ....... for the first time for the occupation Army, the "patriotResident" signs a LAW !!!!!!!
                  Says something, but We look soberly around, and THIS does not correspond to WORDS ......
                  I won’t even write about DAMA — a funny character, a juvenile fool ....

                  There is no struggle in the Kremlin !!!!!!! NO ...
                  All you need is signed and destroyed ....
                  Performances are also in foreign policy .... Assistance to Syria should not be done THAT, Iran cannot be betrayed, there is no need to be friends with the Chinese to the detriment of itself, it is for this policy FSO officers received in the face at a summit in South Africa(EPT, from blacks)))
                  Putin tried to kick))))) and what in the end ?????
                  Snowden says He must stop talking badly about America))))))
                  This is the level of the head of the Club, not the president-patriot))))
                  1. Onyx
                    Onyx 8 November 2013 13: 26
                    +5
                    Quote: Asgard
                    Putin said a speech in Munich and two months later signed FZ-99 (on the presence of NATO troops on Russian territory ....... for the first time for the occupation Army, the "patriotResident" signs a LAW !!!!!!!

                    Yes. how can you and others like you can brazenly lie. Apparently, just keep all the idiots.
                    There is no agreement between Russia and NATO No. 410940-4. There is a bill (not even a law!) Under such a number. From this bill, Federal Law No. 99-FZ, called:
                    “On the ratification of the Agreement between the States Parties to the North Atlantic Treaty and other states participating in the Partnership for Peace program on the status of their Forces from 19 June 1995 of the Year and the Additional Protocol to it”.
                    The agreement from 1995 of the year is being ratified with minor clarifications! That's the whole point of the document.
                    We are talking about the status and rules of the stay of foreign troops in other countries during joint exercises.
                    Quote: Asgard
                    All you need is signed and destroyed ....
                    In foreign policy, too, performances .... Assistance to Syria should not be done SO, Iran can not be betrayed, the Chinese do not need to be friends at the expense of themselves

                    Well, enlighten how to help Syria and how Putin betrayed Iran? Question: Iran to us, in general, who? Do we have an alliance agreement with him? FSO did not receive from anyone in the face. Again a lie.
                    Quote: Asgard
                    Snowden says He must stop talking badly about America))))))

                    However, the only person who could not give Snowden away to the United States was none other than Putin.
                    Quote: Asgard
                    This is the level of the head of the Club, not the president-patriot))))

                    This is your level of cook who is trying to get smart about how to manage the country
                    1. Asgard
                      Asgard 8 November 2013 14: 56
                      +4
                      I don’t know what your name is * Onyx * (boom to use clique))
                      About FZ-99 from 2007 read here
                      http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/859972/
                      There is a long reasoned and very informative)))) And below the General will tell you in detail about this "law" .....And having signed the entry into the WTO, he gave up Russian sovereignty (priority of the Laws of the Masons over NATIONAL)))

                      Today I was "cook" was time to climb the Internet)))
                      About FSOshnikov ... They almost took away their nuclear suitcase))) Putin did not know where the Officer with the "device" was)))
                      And nearby stood a Chinese comrade (with security)) and the Negroes did not rock on him))
                      In general, Putin got used everywhere with the Guard (in the occupied territory))) Looks like Moscow was cleaned up during the inauguration and a column of GERMAN CARS IN EMPTY MOSCOW CAME TO KREMLIN)))))

                      Negroes tried to show Putin that in Africa it is possible without security, they say it’s safe here))))) In addition, in Volodya there is a black judo belt)))))
                      Iran we threw with the supply of S-300 purely defensive systems (not subject to any agreements)) and also took an advance payment)))
                      Putin did well, of course, that he did not betray Snowden (although I would have sent him to the seas))) but IMPORTANT WHAT WAS RHETORIC ...
                      I drew your attention to this .....

                      And note, I do not blame anyone for lying, I do not call names, I just know a little more and try to share my knowledge and wishes to understand KNOWLEDGE EVERYTHING, and not fragmentary ....

                      This is a sign of the nearness and limitations of UMA ....
                      Kids (the wisest creatures on the planet)) say:
                      -Who is called, it is called)))))
                      1. Onyx
                        Onyx 8 November 2013 15: 31
                        +3
                        All your links to some Internet resources and generals like Ivashov, which I personally do not inspire any confidence. There is a law to understand what it means do not need the advice of some generals. And about the FSO case in South Africa, did Ivashov tell you this too?
                        In general, Putin got used everywhere with the Guard (in the occupied territory))) Looks like Moscow was cleaned up during the inauguration and a column of GERMAN CARS IN EMPTY MOSCOW CAME TO KREMLIN)))))

                        Well yes. Probably China is also an occupied territory, since Xi Jinping also prefers to move on German technology. And the fact that Moscow was cleared along the route of the motorcade is understandable, because Putin is NOT a Puppet of the West, like Hollande himself, and many in the West would like to physically eliminate him, therefore it was necessary to remove everything along the route to ensure security.
                      2. 3935333
                        3935333 8 November 2013 16: 07
                        0
                        Asgard! Good afternoon! I completely agree with you! I (I am only 31 years old) and my friends (peers) have long formed the opinion that (I already wrote on the site ... I picked up some minuses) that since 1999 the GDP and DAM are just bankruptcy managers ( henchmen) -with all the consequences! And not only we, young people have such an opinion ... my father, his comrades (all people are not poor, everyone has a good business, one "old man" is even included in 500 people), they have a gloomy attitude towards this " Manager "and are very worried about the future
                      3. Botanologist
                        Botanologist 8 November 2013 21: 12
                        +1
                        Quote: Asgard
                        Today I was "cook" was time to climb the Internet)))


                        Asgard, very similar things that you say to me, a year ago, I expressed one person of an extremely liberal sense. He has the whole family in the USA, he is in Russia only for business, but he is terribly, just terribly suffering from the fact that the country has such a President. And undemocratic, walks with protection, and is guided in international politics, and is not knocking on the rostrum with a slipper.
                        And I can’t understand - the patriots don’t like him because they didn’t hang everyone on the Kremlin wall, the liberals don’t like him because he didn’t let him turn the country into a province of some kind of Poland.
                        Are you so firmly convinced that in his place you could have done more than he could?
                      4. Asgard
                        Asgard 8 November 2013 21: 34
                        -2
                        For 14 years, not a single friend of Vova has, in the government there is no command that could carry out his "talking shop"
                        From the last May articles (promises))))
                        And the mantras I promise, I promise, I will deepen))))
                        As for FZ-99, I read it and the documents related to it (as a result, we get an Army with ammunition on our territory (without customs control, with drugs from Afghanistan))) without responsibility of the military personnel for crimes in Russia (really, for one complete crime)) ) the presence of troops with weapons and even with members of their families .....

                        And Russia does not have such agreements with any NATO member))) /
                        Very good about Putin collected video about housing and communal services
                        By the way, these videos can be done on any issue Glonas, Corruption, theft)))))
                3. shpuntik
                  shpuntik 8 November 2013 13: 32
                  +1
                  Asgard (2) SU Today, 11:31 ↑ New
                  Putin in Munich said a speech and two months later signed the FZ-99 (on the presence of NATO troops in Russia ......

                  By the way, here is a man reasoning reasonably:

                  1. Botanologist
                    Botanologist 8 November 2013 21: 19
                    +1
                    Quote: shpuntik
                    By the way, here is a man reasoning reasonably:


                    Maybe this sensible man will tell you why his leader and boss take money for the political struggle in China? And whose interests does he serve with his reasoning?
                4. Botanologist
                  Botanologist 8 November 2013 21: 00
                  +3
                  Quote: Asgard
                  FZ-99 (on the presence of NATO troops on the territory of Russia ....... for the first time for the occupying Army "patriotResident" signs the LAW !!!!!!!


                  Asgard, have gone too far. Do not fantasize about the occupying forces and their bases. Read the Federal Law literally.
                5. SPACE
                  SPACE 8 November 2013 21: 14
                  +2
                  Quote: Asgard
                  Do you seriously think that Putin, DAM, is an independent figure)))))

                  Do not consider yourself smarter than others, believe me it is not promising.
                  Quote: Asgard
                  Putin said a speech in Munich and two months later signed FZ-99 (on the presence of NATO troops on Russian territory ....... for the first time for the occupation Army, the "patriotResident" signs a LAW !!!!!!!

                  Such a large number of exclamation points speaks of your overly emotional certainty, in reality, in no way the importance of what was said ...
                  Quote: Asgard
                  Says something, but We look soberly around, and THIS does not correspond to WORDS ......

                  Everyone is potentially lying! Moreover, not only in words, but in deeds! The latter incidentally is the main fallacy of many. There are few motives: Ignorance and stupidity, unconscious lies. In their own benefits. Under duress of money or violence. So the main thing should not be the essence of what was said or done by a person, but the DEFINITION of TRUTH, his words and actions. In other words, it is important to be able to quickly determine whether a person is lying or not, and without a lie detector. This can be achieved either by rigorous verification, or, with a certain degree of certainty, by monitoring facial expressions and human behavior. Based on this, I hope you will understand that in the field of meaning of written, audio, video information there can be no absolute evidence of any truth! They used to hide it, now they camouflage it. This is me to the fact that "it's not just that, guys")))
                  Sometimes it’s very funny to read your comments, they remind me of a bad attempt to appear in the guise of the Delphic oracle forecasters who know something, but cannot speak openly, due to their influence on the events themselves. But, your comments do not pass the test, neither by logic, nor by the ability to explain all the events that occur and, most importantly, by time! Like the glory of a gypsy fortune-teller, the main meaning, not in the essence of what was said, but in a mysterious understatement, is a usual psychological device, except that it applies to the average person.
                  I believe that neither Putin, nor Starikov, nor Fedorov, nor Ivashev, nor you, are holding out to absolutely sober truth, it remains to find out the motives for this ...
                  1. Asgard
                    Asgard 8 November 2013 22: 41
                    +1
                    Good evening Demyan!

                    About the lie I agree, But further reasoning somehow did not impress))))
                    There is a simple rule: thought_word_cause (without spaces))))
                    and there is no need for facial expressions, camouflage of information or concealment, and the "lie detector" is redundant - it is used by "weak peoples"))))
                    impotent gay approach)))
                    About Putin no need to be so excited, he does not decide anything, Vova is the personification of "the power of the really ruling country" which does not need RUSSIA nafik, like Kazakhstan ...
                    Do you really think that the Kazakhs took and built for themselves the capital ASTAN (SANTAN))) with many Masonic symbols, (throwing camels in the steppe)))))

                    As for Petkevich (me)))) I really have a lot of bazaar, FRIENDS tell me that someday my language will be shortened .....
                    But if you say that I’m cheating, then I have nothing to worry about (they haven’t killed anyone yet))))))
                    Sometimes I will take cognac (otherwise infa sounds in my ears))) but no one else in personal communication could refute me, I always call for logic, about the "mysterious understatement", forgive me, I do not have time to print my thoughts))))))
                    Well, as for the motive, there is a good formula, look for someone my comments are beneficial, I do not like Putin, Half measures, Police, Prosecutor's Office, Politician
                    and -Paskuda, Parliamentarians -PI-DARASy, Parties -No-sticks, Window dressing and Primitive, Polygraph, Pa (O) nt, Porf, Patriarch-Polo-smart, Pastors-Pedophiles, Parasites, burqa, Pacifism, Privileges, Quibbles, Prizes Pentagon, Postscript, Poodle and Funeral))))
                    1. Andrey Yuryevich
                      Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2013 04: 14
                      +2
                      )) Vladimir! and why something that you do not like, only the letter "P"? (however, I agree, I don’t like the above too) and can you go through the alphabet in the next "outfit in the kitchen"? laughing hi
                6. bif
                  bif 8 November 2013 23: 23
                  +1
                  Quote: Asgard
                  Putin made a speech in Munich and two months later signed FZ-99 (on the presence of NATO troops in Russia ....... for the first time for the occupation Army, the "patriotResident" signs a LAW !!

                  You reason somehow at the household level, look wider.
                  1. It was FAVORABLE for the RF to HAVE a trump card in the form of a NATO supply transit, which at any moment could become the only corridor.
                  2. It is FAVORABLE for the Russian Federation to have NATO troops (read the United States) sit in Avgan for as long as possible and spend billions from their poorer budget on presence, so help with logistics is less of a reason to withdraw and they sit there longer.
                  3. You can always poke the "parterres" that "we are going to meet you, but where are the reciprocal steps?"
                7. Russ69
                  Russ69 9 November 2013 02: 58
                  +1
                  Quote: Asgard
                  Snowden says He must stop talking badly about America))))))

                  However, he is not silent ... smile
      3. Egoza
        Egoza 8 November 2013 11: 06
        +3
        Quote: Asgard
        Old man is a smart person, he adapts to the situation, with the nuances he says the right things .... But he does not focus attention-WHO IS GUILT IN THIS ???

        That's because he is a SMART person, and therefore does not speak! wink
        Quote: Asgard
        Ahead can only be WAR .... (with aliens))))))

        But why? China has a strong say. The dollar will collapse completely, and in a completely peaceful way.And the yuan will become the international currency!(As predicted by Wang laughing ) Stock up, citizens! Do not lose! fellow
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 8 November 2013 11: 11
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          The dollar will collapse completely, and in a completely peaceful way.

          It is unlikely that having such a military potential, pendosy will not slam the door loudly. When a person drowns, very often drowns nearby.
    2. knn54
      knn54 8 November 2013 14: 08
      +2
      “There remains a war.”
      Two options: either Global or a chain of local wars ...
    3. alekseyal
      alekseyal 8 November 2013 18: 16
      +4
      Starikov says we support good deeds, we criticize bad ones. At the same time, he did not join United Russia, but is co-chairman of the Great Fatherland Party.
      http://партиявеликоеотечество.рф/
  2. 222222
    222222 8 November 2013 13: 14
    +7
    "Despite the fact that Starikov is a pro-Putin comrade," ..
    Unique human performance. It's amazing how he manages everything:
    and commercial director of the 1st TV channel Peter,
    a good historian and writer,
    politician with the Great Fatherland Party and the trade union of Russian citizens
    lecturer with trips across the country from Kaliningrad to Sakhalin
    Yes, he leads his site ..
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 8 November 2013 13: 45
      +5
      Quote: 222222
      Despite the fact that Starikov is a pro-Putin comrade, ".. He has a unique working capacity. It's amazing how he manages everything: the commercial director of the 1st TV channel of St. Petersburg, a good analyst and writer, historian, a politician with the Party of Great Fatherland" the whole country from Kaliningrad to Sakhalin, and also has its own website ..

      - Are they doing sports? That is, at a good level owns melee? Then someone uploaded a video, there is someone who looked like Starikov, very good at it -))).
      1. 222222
        222222 8 November 2013 14: 16
        +2
        aksakal (KZ Today, 13:45 ↑ someone similar to Starikov very well owned this way -)))
        ..so he is from St. Petersburg. And many in St. Petersburg are keen on wrestling ..
  3. zvereok
    zvereok 8 November 2013 21: 36
    +1
    Explain, please, how the description of Putin is combined - "well, we had no one better." And Kudrin's swearing?

    For me, Kudrin is an excellent accountant, realizing that by giving money for the development of the country, the country will receive 0,001% from them, everything else will go west, he did not give them. In funds of all kinds - the percentage is higher. Plus, say thanks to Kudrin, for oh, we're still afloat. Without it, the West after the crisis stupidly, bought up all those 0,0001% at a cheap price, paid off investments in the economy and the crisis. And if, due to the lack of reserves, Russia had been fucked up, the West would delay the crisis by another half a century.

    And by the way, let's compare Kudrin, no, not even with him, with Chubaysem for example.

    PS: All this is good, but when will they put Serdyukov?
  4. igor12
    igor12 8 November 2013 22: 31
    +1
    And you think it’s just that the army began to be rebuilt. At the last frontier, the United States will certainly unleash a great war. Therefore, we must arm ourselves before it is too late!
  5. SAG
    SAG 9 November 2013 03: 37
    +1
    What do you want from Putin? GPV2020 was not sequestered, and our military-industrial complex is simply not able to master large sums. For Syria, and so to thawed butting. They don’t get involved in conflicts ... So Putin understands you better and better, I think so. IMHO
  • makarov
    makarov 8 November 2013 07: 33
    +3
    "..What remains. Saving the dollar is a war. .."

    Uv. author, And who did you want to surprise with your conclusion ?. Sane people have long known the so-called. "the foundations and pillars of American democracy", which implies the opening of wars around the world, the expenditure of weapons and ammunition, then the production of new means and ammunition, plus the restoration of the previously destroyed system of the destroyed country by their own companies. That's the whole secret of the American economy.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 8 November 2013 07: 38
    +2
    As the saying goes, the war will write everything off! No wonder the states are arming themselves so intensely ..
  • JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 8 November 2013 07: 42
    +1
    War is not an option either. Because, no money will help any of the corpses.
    1. major071
      major071 8 November 2013 08: 07
      10
      Do you think that money bags themselves will go to war? This is not a royal affair. negative
      1. klimpopov
        klimpopov 8 November 2013 09: 29
        +3
        We will reduce our numbers and numbers in one. Sometimes it feels like aliens are seizing in the Fed that have seized the Earth and exploited humanity.
        Py Sy RenTV not looking))))
        1. JIaIIoTb
          JIaIIoTb 8 November 2013 10: 42
          +2
          I view World War 3 as the euthanasia of civilization per se.
          There will be neither poor nor rich.
          1. silver_roman
            silver_roman 8 November 2013 19: 18
            +1
            you know, given that humanity has been rummaging for years in its own shit, instead of finding a universal compromise and going to the stars (no matter how difficult it is), we all weave webs (intrigues). Maybe it would be better without humanity ??? philosophical and not rhetorical question !!!
    2. Duelist
      Duelist 8 November 2013 11: 40
      +1
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      War is not an option either. Because, no money will help any of the corpses.

      No. War, as a way to use the manger alone. Especially when the vassals cowardly tighten their tails and bark furiously at anyone who does not please their Master.
  • Galinanp
    Galinanp 8 November 2013 07: 43
    +3
    Dedicated to all domestic peppy liberals, admirers of the values ​​of the Pin-dosovsky lifestyle, patients with fetishism with a pronounced addiction to cut green paper.
  • Sunjar
    Sunjar 8 November 2013 07: 55
    0
    Jews seem to have a custom to forgive each other's debts (once in 15 years if memory serves them right), because when no one owes anyone, you can start all over again. This would save the current situation. But a liberal society does not accept this approach: greed does not allow it.

    PS
    If there are Jews present on the site - correct me or write that I was misled.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 8 November 2013 09: 33
      +5
      Quote: Sunjar
      (once every 15 years if memory fails),

      - I heard about once every 7 years. And yet - the goyim spoil everything. The goyim have crept into the ranks of those who need to be forgiven, but religion forbids the Jews to forgive the debts of the goyim, so they cannot forgive everything. After all, then it is necessary - to forgive some, and others - not to forgive the same debt. These "others" will very quickly realize on what principle the day of "forgiveness" of debts passed and will raise such a fuss that it may even lead to the cancellation of the Holocaust and the preferences associated with it laughing
    2. IRBIS
      IRBIS 8 November 2013 10: 09
      +9
      Quote: Sunjar
      Jews seem to have a custom to forgive each other's debts (once in 15 years if memory fails)

      I would like to see someone who tries 15 years not to repay a debt to a Jew! Actually, if there are such people, then these are Armenians ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 8 November 2013 11: 03
        +4
        Quote: IRBIS
        Actually, if there are such people, then these are Armenians ...

        good Armenians are proud to be the descendants of Noah. And who was Noah? lol
    3. zvereok
      zvereok 8 November 2013 21: 42
      +3
      Quote: Sunjar
      Jews seem to have a custom to forgive each other's debts (once in 15 years if memory serves),


      Does the mortgage fall?
  • their
    their 8 November 2013 07: 55
    +1
    War is an outlet for the Anglo-Saxons as it was in WWII. However, this time they just raised the bar without any restrictions. They can endlessly print and draw zeros.
    As for the demand for the dollar, it will be for a long time, while most countries of the world are intimidated by the main gopnik of the US planet, and are happy to buy pieces of paper. Even China buys US dollars and bonds as it is the largest market for them. So it’s too early to bury the dollar, there is demand for it, moreover, it is growing in price and devaluing the national currency, thereby increasing the tribute to the US Federal Reserve. The war will be when the main holders of US bonds, China and Japan, want to demand a payment or start to throw off bonds on the market and no one will buy them.
    1. Grbear
      Grbear 8 November 2013 09: 23
      +6
      As for the demand for the dollar, it will be for a long time, while most countries of the world are intimidated by the main gopnik of the US planet, and are happy to buy pieces of paper. Even China buys US dollars and bonds as it is the largest market for them.


      Point by point:
      There are intimidated - a fact, but most are simply bought at the very top. "Rulers" are selling their homelands on the vine.

      China is actively getting rid of dollars:
      - buys energy from us (both cheaply and expensive - in different ways), but pays right away.
      - leases the land in L. America, Africa and Ukraine, but pays, see above.
      - places Amer's securities on the Hong Kong stock exchange at a low rate, but asks for payment in RMB or in another currency.
      - invests in industry and mining L.America, but takes in kind.
      So, the Chinese are getting rid of the dollar.

      Ours should be stepped up in this direction.
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 8 November 2013 10: 51
        0
        Quote: GrBear
        Ours should be stepped up in this direction

        - like trying to go into gold.
    2. teleset
      teleset 8 November 2013 11: 43
      +1
      I think the Fed will redeem all the papers by printing the bonds.
    3. Duelist
      Duelist 8 November 2013 12: 18
      +3
      Alas! But the war will happen when the Americans and China agree ... by dividing the territory of Russia. Our duty to our ancestors will protect our homeland. So we recall that Russia has only friends Arimya and Fleet.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 8 November 2013 12: 50
        0
        Quote: Duelist
        But the war will happen when the Americans and China agree ... by dividing the territory of Russia.

        And why not vice versa? If Russia and China agree ...
        I believe that Russia will sooner be able to stop this war! Well, "the Russians have such a planida!"
  • nemec55
    nemec55 8 November 2013 08: 57
    +1
    And now, having analyzed all this, we can come to a very sad, but important conclusion. There is no economic way out of the situation that threatens the collapse of the dollar and the entire world economy built on it.

    That's why they print, because they always have time to start a war.
  • Bigriver
    Bigriver 8 November 2013 09: 07
    +4
    Saving the dollar is war.

    The conclusion is unoriginal. It remains to find countries that will start fighting among themselves to save the dollar.
    After all, the direct participation of the United States in this war is excluded if its goal is $.
    1. bolonenkov
      bolonenkov 8 November 2013 10: 39
      +8
      Actually, the task of the Russian Federation is precisely to prevent such a war from breaking out, and thereby ruin the United States, recalling to them their scam in the late 80s.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 8 November 2013 11: 04
        +5
        Quote: bolonenkov
        Actually, the task of the Russian Federation is precisely to prevent such a war from breaking out, and thereby ruin the United States, recalling to them their scam in the late 80s.

        "The pig will find dirt."
        As Schicklgruber said to the German ambassador to the USSR: "And I, count, had no choice."
  • vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 8 November 2013 09: 32
    +2
    America "fought" weak opponents alone or by proxy, if the enemy is strong.
    Even in World War II, I waited for Germany to become so weakened in the war with the USSR that one could take part in the division. And she basically "flexes" in front of the whole world, and when there are no allies, she is unlikely to want to start. They like to "fight with convenience" like a computer and not getting tangible resistance. And now there is a crisis of international support in the Western camp, despite the provocations of the US special services. Even there they begin to realize that "the king is naked" The only chance for them is to limit spending on debt, I hope they have not gone crazy there yet.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 8 November 2013 09: 54
      +3
      Quote: vlad.svargin
      America "fought" with weak opponents alone or with the wrong hands, if the enemy is strong

      - so this is the whole trick - so that others would fight while they are fighting - to burn off all debts in the fire of war, and to enter the war themselves later than all the others. when the opponents are extremely weak and unlikely to be able to provide serious resistance to the fresh enemy. As a result, the outcome of the war can then be tailored for yourself and start all over again. Only if not the entire planet, then almost the entire population of the most powerful geopolitical adversary - and this is not China at all, as the Israelis think, who still have not grown up in fighting spirit, namely Russia - already sees the true culprit and the true picture of affairs. So how much will it take for the States to repeat World War II and its results? is a big question. In any case, Russia is sticking sticks now. It simply does not allow to kindle a world fire. In Syria, we see it. But if gasoline is already pouring everywhere, and the States really need a fire, then the work of Russia may not be crowned with success. So get ready for anything. There are more matches, rice and other cereals in the basement, packaged foods and canned goods. Teach something? Grandmothers will clearly say. what exactly is needed - they remember. Everyone has grandmothers.
  • mcvdvlad
    mcvdvlad 8 November 2013 10: 37
    +3
    what kind of war and with whom are we talking? USA-RF-China? so nothing will remain on earth ... USA-Iran? they won’t climb, it’s not enough strength, besides, under the flag of Iran the whole sensible east can become isolated and then not only will the scribe come to America, the east will become such a force that everyone will have to reckon with. Zimbabwe- Papua New Guinea? so don't give a shit
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 8 November 2013 11: 10
      +2
      Quote: mcvdvlad
      what kind of war and with whom are we talking? USA-RF-China? so nothing will remain on earth ... USA-Iran? they won’t climb, it’s not enough strength, besides, under the flag of Iran the whole sensible east can become isolated and then not only will the scribe come to America, the east will become such a force that everyone will have to reckon with. Zimbabwe- Papua New Guinea?

      - Have you tried to read my post above? Have you tried history lessons?
      Quote: mcvdvlad
      in addition, under the flag of Iran, the whole sane east can disconnect

      - why? Iran has okromya Syria and Hezbollah, there are no more allies in the Middle East. What kind of fiction? Do you even know a little about politics?
      Americans will start a war. The formats can be very different. They can start with an Israeli attack on Iran. Then the Saudis will come out on the side of Israel. And Russia and China will need to be drawn into this mess. Again - different ways. For example, involve Ayzerbadzhan against Iran and against Ayzerbajan's long-standing "love" - ​​against Armenia. So Russia is involved. The same is true for China. The States themselves will not be drawn into the war; they will weld themselves on the sale of weapons. They will enter when the winner is clearly indicated. The winner, weakened by the war, whose soldiers are tired of fighting, and forced to share the fruits of victory. Where will the winner go from the new contender for the BENEFICIARIES of this war? The lion's share will be forced to give. Learn history.
      1. 787nkx
        787nkx 8 November 2013 12: 03
        +2
        Possible option without a global military conflict.
        Transnational corporations will "surrender" the United States as a partner unable to ensure the safety of capital and further growth of profits. And they will look for new partners or build a new structure that promotes and protects their interests.
        1. Bigriver
          Bigriver 8 November 2013 14: 17
          +1
          Quote: 787nkx
          Possible option without a global military conflict.
          Transnational corporations will "surrender" the United States, as a partner unable to ensure the safety of capital and further growth in profits ...

          I lean towards the same scenario. The whole course of events speaks for the fact that some powerful TNC group is winning in the party to demote America and against the "patriotic" scenario. And that everything has already been decided - the States are "closing". Only very carefully to prevent a sharp collapse and shock.
          But, this is a party AGAINST $ and per yuan smile
      2. amp
        amp 8 November 2013 12: 04
        0
        I have not read such nonsense for a long time. The Saudis are on the side of Israel, and Russia and China are climbing into all this for some hell. If Azerbaijanis attack Armenia, this will limit the participation of Russian troops in the conflict. What is the joy of the Russian Federation, having defended Armenia, to climb into the Middle East?
        The States themselves will not be drawn into the war, they will be welded on the sale of weapons.

        So far, what is happening is exactly the opposite: the Russian Federation is welded on arms supplies to Syria, and the United States is eager to fight there.

        Your opponent rightly said: Russia and China are not fools and they understand everything. Regarding World War II, it was not the United States that started it, but England and France. They planned to bleed Germany from the USSR, but miscalculated a little, and the USA was just lucky. And then there was no nuclear weapons as it is now, that is, the participation of the USSR in the war was possible AGAINST his wishes. Now, in principle, no aggression against the Russian Federation is possible. This means that if the Russian Federation does not want to, then it will not participate in any war. The same goes for China.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 8 November 2013 13: 41
          +1
          Quote: amp
          Saudis on the side of Israel

          - wait, what kind of body movements have we seen lately? At the same time, the Israeli comrades convince us that our cooperation with the Saudis "never mind - it's all temporary and not for long." Yesterday they voiced it directly. Of course, temporarily and not for long - until they jointly break Iran. Or not? And so - as there were enemies, they remained. As a matter of fact, the Israelis do not lie. But cooperation on the basis of "concern about the improvement of relations between Iran and the United States" between these two as "fierce" enemies has already appeared. So the Saud is on the side of Israel - not delusion, but reality. Anyway, until Iran is defeated.
          Quote: amp
          If Azerbaijanis attack Armenia, this will limit the participation of Russian troops in the conflict. What is the joy of the Russian Federation, having defended Armenia, to climb into the Middle East?

          - Iserbadzhan, I hope, will be prudent enough, but the Iserbadzhan who is at war only with Armenia is not interested in the Americans. And they are trying - more than once tried - to lure Ayzerbadzhan into the anti-Iranian coalition, promising them the territories of Iran where the Ayzerbadzhan diaspora live. They will be able to lure - how will Russia limit itself to this in Armenia? An attack on Ayzerbajan in this case will be qualified by the Saudis as a speech on the side of Iran. That automatic drums will let all the militants down to Russia, and Turkey will let them all go, because they will also be able to draw her in. And what to fight with Turkey? Or with fighters? Isn't that a war? How do you imagine the use of nuclear weapons here?
          Quote: amp
          So far, what is happening is exactly the opposite: the Russian Federation is welded on arms supplies to Syria, and the United States is eager to fight there.

          nothing has been delivered to Syria, it is insolvent. What kind of fat are you talking about? The United States is eager to light a fire; they stupidly offer matches. And this fire will not touch them in any way - they are actually across three oceans. And the loss in the fire of a fire of a certain number of ships that ended up in Sredizemomre to their misfortune - well, there are absolutely no losses. And yet - it is difficult for Israel and the Saudis, and even for the Amers, to attack Iran without a bridgehead and with the enemy in the rear. Syria in its current form must be eliminated and cleared for this. While Syria is holding on, there will be no war - it will not stupidly catch fire, and that’s it.
          Quote: amp
          They planned to bleed Germany from the USSR, but miscalculated a little, and the USA was just lucky.

          - Well, what's the difference, does this statement change the essence of my statements in previous posts? Ok, I'll change the phrase: instead of "the Americans want to repeat the same trick that they did in World War II ..." I will voice it this way: "The Americans, who accidentally had a good orgasm from the Second World War, liked it, and they want to repeat it!" Is that okay for you?
          1. amp
            amp 8 November 2013 14: 17
            +1
            Even if you are right, the participation of the Russian Federation in a future war at the level of the participation of the USSR in World War II is simply impossible. No one will mobilize a multi-million army to defend Iran or Armenia, and most importantly, the battles will not go on the territory of the Russian Federation.
            Yes, the Russian Federation is not required to send ground troops to Iran. Iran itself is numerically superior to Israel and the Gulf monarchies taken together. We can talk about the Air Force and Air Defense, that is, what the USSR did in Korea and Vietnam. This is not a war that can save the United States from crisis.
      3. alone
        alone 8 November 2013 19: 38
        0
        Quote: aksakal
        Iran has okromya Syria and Hezbollah, there are no more allies in the Middle East. What kind of fiction? Are you at least a little versed in politics?
        Americans will start a war. The formats can be very different. They can start with an Israeli attack on Iran. Then the Saudis will come out on the side of Israel. And Russia and China will need to be drawn into this mess. Again - different ways. For example, involve Ayzerbadzhan against Iran and against Ayzerbajan's long-standing "love" - ​​against Armenia. So Russia is involved. The same is true for China. The States themselves will not be drawn into the war, they will weld themselves on the sale of weapons


        in the world there are enough places where you can start local wars. For example, Somalia, the same Syria. They do not need Azerbaijan to attack Iran. Anglo-Saxons with mattresses invested hundreds of billions in Azerbaijan because of putting their capital at risk? Any country in the Gulf of Pesid can play the role of a detonator against Iran. At the same time, the rest will automatically support the one who starts it.
  • amp
    amp 8 November 2013 11: 52
    0
    War with whom? It is quite clear that situations when the great powers overseas destroy each other, and the United States profits from this, will not happen again. The war, the whole burden of which will fall on the USA itself, will not bring any benefit to America, only harm. One of the reasons for their huge debt is the cost of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
  • amp
    amp 8 November 2013 12: 16
    0
    It is believed that by supporting Islamism the United States creates just the enemy for a future war. There is no one collective Hitler. If Islamic radicals come to power from the Persian Gulf to the Atlantic, then jihad against Europe and the big war the US needs are quite possible.
    If so, then victory in Syria plays a huge role and upsets these plans.

    At the moment, there is no reason to rely on a big war in which the United States will not take part from the very beginning.
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 8 November 2013 13: 58
      +1
      Quote: amp
      then jihad against Europe and the big war the US needs are quite possible.

      - Europe, even Germany, militarily is a quantity tending to zero. In Europe, there are almost no brutal men left, and they already all serve in the army, which is very small and is still being reduced. There can be no question of a clash between Europe and the mass of jihadists, and there is no need to even guess who will be the winner.
      The war will be where there is a strong predominance of young men over the number of women of childbearing age. The demographic prerequisites of the war also do not take off the counts - this is the most important, although not self-sufficient, factor of war. WHERE a bunch of young guys? Right, in the Blue East. Right, in Iran. Right, in Pakitsan. That's right - in India, where they saw young girls somewhere on the bus or somewhere else - they rape and then do not regret it - at least in the fourth dozen, I knew a woman, I lived my life for nothing. In China ... Continue?
      And Europe with Russia and the entire CIS in this regard is absolutely raw firewood. There are many women. But ... It’s possible to drag in something, and they will try to do it.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 8 November 2013 17: 52
        +2
        Quote: aksakal
        - Europe, even Germany, militarily is a quantity tending to zero. In Europe, there are almost no brutal men left, and they already all serve in the army, which is very small and is still being reduced.

        This is a fallacy, maybe in all kinds of Holland-France-England there aren’t any left, but in Germany there are enough men, as soon as the Americans reduce Ramstein, the fourth Reich will immediately draw.
  • shpuntik
    shpuntik 8 November 2013 13: 23
    +1
    What remains. Saving the dollar is war. I released a book with this title in 2010.
    The author is Nikolai Starikov.

    Do not be afraid Kolyun, we will support. Pitchfork to the side! Tszt. soldier

  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 8 November 2013 13: 42
    +5
    Alas, N. Starikov is right. This is confirmed by recent history. Both world wars (more precisely, one world war for these two, the essence of one) had economic reasons in the geopolitical space of the Anglo-Saxons. nothing changed.
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver 8 November 2013 14: 25
      +3
      Quote: Peaceful military
      Alas, N. Starikov is right. This is confirmed by recent history. Both world wars (more precisely, one world war for the two, the essence of one) had economic reasons in the geopolitical space of the Anglo-Saxons. nothing changed.

      It is only doubtful that one of the new Anglo-Saxons believes that they are so cool that for the third time in a row they will fall exactly into the hole where it is necessary. And not another laughing
      Since, there are still changes, and they are global.
      1. Peaceful military
        Peaceful military 8 November 2013 15: 06
        +2
        [quote = BigRiver] [/ quote] It is only doubtful that one of the new Anglo-Saxons believes that they are so cool that for the third time in a row they will fall exactly into the hole where you need to. And not another laughing
        Since, there are still changes, and they are global. [/ Quote]
        How to say. If Russia uses this, perhaps the last chance, then nothing shines for the Naglo-Saxons. China, "a colossus with feet of clay".
        And if Russia at the next (maybe the last) take-off is fucked up by the liberals, then ...
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 8 November 2013 16: 17
          +4
          Quote: Peaceful military
          And if Russia at the next (maybe the last) take-off is fucked up by the liberals, then ...

          dear, on the liberals and all the Naglosak hope. In a direct military confrontation with the Russians, nothing "shines" for them, even for all their naval advantage. They will only repeat that Crimean war, only at a new technical level - and the whole business. In that war, despite their powerful naval advantage (metal ships against Russian wooden ones), the impudent Saxons (then the British, now the Americans - what's the difference?) Did not achieve anything at all, except for a large number of coffins. The Russians got it well too. Well? Should they make porridge then? So there is only one hope for the liberals. The revolution of 1917 - in essence and in design, the Naglo-Saxon liberal revolution, just went completely unpredictable - Lenin turned out to be a "scammer", as he seized power, when suddenly the Russian autocrat woke up in him.
          And especially dangerous is the link between liberals and homegrown jihadists, on the one hand, and with radical Nazis on the part of the Russians. Here, my friend of the operas, in response to my questions about the harsh elimination of the leaders of the organized criminal group, answered in the spirit that the organized criminal group cannot be completely defeated, but as soon as there are signs that the income of the organized criminal group is consolidating from the three main branches (control of prostitution, vodka, smuggled tobacco) and arms trade), that is, some nimble bandit crushes all these three different branches - you need to spit on the law, legal procedures and so on, and act immediately to eliminate this "painfully nimble" bandit - otherwise crushing all three branches of income, this "painfully nimble" in a couple of years will become more powerful than the state. Approximately the Russians (and my rulers as well) need to act in the same way - while separately, let them shout and shout, individually they - liberals, Jahdists, Nazis - are not very dangerous. But do not allow associations and alliances between them. With the "non-admission" it is possible to bypass the law - why not? Although the Investigative Committee perfectly finds what to "dunk" this or that "painfully nimble" liberalist.
          1. Peaceful military
            Peaceful military 8 November 2013 16: 52
            0
            Quote: aksakal
            Quote: Peaceful military
            And if Russia at the next (maybe the last) take-off is fucked up by the liberals, then ...

            dear, on the liberals and all the Naglosak hope. In a direct military confrontation with the Russians, nothing "shines" for them at all

            Yes, dear, I say exactly that. smile soldier
  • 222222
    222222 8 November 2013 14: 47
    +1
    "..remains. The dollar is saved - war ...."
    1. The first and second world wars were unleashed by the backstage of the United States in a similar situation for America to emerge from the crisis that threatens them with collapse. the whole world paid for the development of the usa and paid in full
    2. At that time, the United States was not in the zone from the defeat of the existing military weapons at that time. The Japanese could only reach Pearl Harbor ..
    3. At present, they, the USA, are in the zone of destruction with both nuclear weapons and cyber influence. And in any case, they can get a decent response and the complete destruction of all infrastructure, etc., etc. They are NOT crazy after the exchange. Nobody will need YaU-dollar ..
    World War 4.4 is already underway and the results of this war are obvious: 1. the territorial redistribution of the world is in full swing by a series of local wars in different regions of the world and especially in the regions where energy resources are located and the ways of their delivery. 2. a series of so-called "color revolutions" 3. the creation of regional economic, military-political alliances .. and the expansion of their influence to other regions of the world ..
    5 War in the financial sector: yuan - dollar, dollar - euro ..
    6. The new US strategy focuses on expanding its influence in the Pacific, i.e. the confrontation with China .. At the same time, the UK has declared itself a supporter of the United States in this confrontation .. A WB = Member of the EU and NATO ..
    7. On the nationalization of the ruble. The idea is good .. BUT who will take it over the hill .. And how will it be provided .. oil ruble .. ???
  • 222222
    222222 8 November 2013 14: 55
    0
    And the deputy of the Goz Duma of the Russian Federation Fedorov and NV Starikov assert that "Russia is occupied" by the Anglo-Saxons .. That means. it can be assumed from their conclusions that Russia has already been captured 7 then why wage any war with her ... all the more world? Or then their thesis is not correct?
    1. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 8 November 2013 15: 26
      +1
      Quote: 222222
      And the deputy of the Goz Duma of the Russian Federation Fedorov and NV Starikov assert that "Russia is occupied" by the Anglo-Saxons .. That means. it can be assumed from their conclusions that Russia has already been captured 7 then why wage any war with her ... all the more world? Or then their thesis is not correct?

      You see the form without seeing the content. And the content, which the same E. Fedorov and N. Starikov repeatedly and thoroughly explain, is such that the occupation is in the form of colonization, and not in the form of seizure of territory.
      As Russia began to break free, the issue of a tougher occupation became more relevant.
      Further, the same E. Fedorov and N. Starikov reasonably explain that the freebie obtained after the colonization of Russia and the EEC countries ended, as does the freebie of the so-called post-industrial society, which, in fact, was also colonization ..
      So I don’t see the contradictions. hi
      1. Bigriver
        Bigriver 8 November 2013 16: 50
        +3
        Quote: Peaceful military
        ... E. Fedorov and N. Starikov repeatedly and in detail explain that occupation is in the form of colonization, ..

        I will allow myself a remark.
        IMHO, Starikov strongly narrows the question, presenting America as some kind of unified, consistent force, which through "I can not" will break through from the priests.
        America, Congress, Oboma, as well as the media, domestic and foreign policy are owned by TNCs. They are global, not national. Although, there are the latter. But, by and large, Transam actually, do not care, America will be in the pope or out of it. They care about the preservation of capital as the equivalent of power, the ability to manage the world order.
        Yes, the America project has worked so far, but it was initially unprofitable smile
        Now they will close it, and open something new. Most likely it will be some kind of coalition of countries.
        In general, Starikov speaks of only one version of events - patriotic, American. When a certain group of TNCs made a bet on America, as a platform for the renaissance. But, there are groups playing against such a situation.
        1. Peaceful military
          Peaceful military 9 November 2013 00: 02
          +2
          Quote: BigRiver
          Quote: Peaceful military
          ... E. Fedorov and N. Starikov repeatedly and in detail explain that occupation is in the form of colonization, ..

          I will allow myself a remark.
          IMHO, Starikov strongly narrows the question, presenting America as some kind of unified, consistent force, which through "I can not" will break through from the priests.
          America, Congress, Oboma, as well as the media, domestic and foreign policy are owned by TNCs. They are global, not national. Although, there are the latter. But, by and large, Transam actually, do not care, America will be in the pope or out of it. They care about the preservation of capital as the equivalent of power, the ability to manage the world order.
          Yes, the America project has worked so far, but it was initially unprofitable smile
          Now they will close it, and open something new. Most likely it will be some kind of coalition of countries.
          In general, Starikov speaks of only one version of events - patriotic, American. When a certain group of TNCs made a bet on America, as a platform for the renaissance. But, there are groups playing against such a situation.

          Since consolidation of the Tire-Sidon-Carthage-Jerusalem, etc., this formation, having consolidated, has learned not only to mimic, but also to transform. So it's not about the United States ...
  • 222222
    222222 8 November 2013 14: 55
    +2
    And the deputy of the Goz Duma of the Russian Federation Fedorov and NV Starikov assert that "Russia is occupied" by the Anglo-Saxons .. That means. it can be assumed from their conclusions that Russia has already been captured 7 then why wage any war with her ... all the more world? Or then their thesis is not correct?
  • Muadipus
    Muadipus 8 November 2013 15: 24
    0
    It is high time to lower these "Cheaters" to the bottom of the ocean, as VF Zhirinovsky suggested.
  • 222222
    222222 8 November 2013 16: 48
    0
    Peaceful military
    "You see the form without seeing the content. And the content, which the same E. Fedorov and N. Starikov explain in detail and many times, is such that the occupation is in the form of colonization, and not in the form of seizing territory."
    Before applying the basic concepts in dialectical materialism and in particular "form and content", let's deal with the concept of "signs of a colony" ... it's easier .. well, for example, let's look at Wikipedia. so as not to bother yourself ..http: //ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%
    B0% D0% BB% D0% B8% D0% B7% D0% BC and play crosses
    .. put crosses where the sign appears in Russia ..
    Who ordered such music and why? Naturally, those who own and carry out the export of raw materials from Russia and money. (Why bother yourself with industry and technology, if the loot already flows by itself ..) .. For something, Angosaxes are to blame for everything. and NOT the new Russian capitalists. Maybe they are the colonialists ??????
    1. Peaceful military
      Peaceful military 8 November 2013 23: 12
      0
      Quote: 222222
      For some reason, Angosaxians are to blame for everything. and NOT the new Russian capitalists. Maybe they are the colonialists ??????

      Look wider and deeper. The Russian capitalists, who, 25 years ago, smelled and suddenly, like that, have the arrogant Saxons who, 500 years (if not more, if you count the Venetians) who have been forging capital and concentrating financial power on the planet, have circled a finger and ... It's ridiculous.
      Yes, and the collapse of the Union, as well as the collapse of the Republic of Ingushetia, as well as their emergence - this is so-so, as the accidental occurrence of life on Earth, all by itself, hop and it arose .... fool
      1. 222222
        222222 9 November 2013 01: 16
        +1
        Peaceful military
        "Look wider and deeper."
        "Behold at the root" advised the classic ...
        Randomness and regularity .. A man is born, what a randomness. But once He dies, an obvious pattern ..
        Now closer to the matter .. to our Gusy to the capitalists .. This is a pattern .. They grew out of a bureaucratic system with all the bells and whistles (benefits, bonuses, special rations .... the system gave birth to itself a gravedigger, an administrative-party apparatus. The petty-bourgeois element swept the top of the party and the state. Ilyich also warned about this. And Stalin bluntly said that the class struggle would only intensify with the development of socialism. He could still cope with it .. And then it went and went. Look at what the former leaders of the USSR turned into .. th advertises pizza .. and our Ukrainian 1st communist Kravchuk says that he was always a nationalist .. Here's a random pattern ..
        1. Peaceful military
          Peaceful military 9 November 2013 06: 57
          0
          Quote: 222222
          Peaceful military
          "Look wider and deeper."
          "Behold at the root" advised the classic ...
          Randomness and regularity .. A man is born, what a randomness. But once He dies, an obvious pattern ..
          Now closer to the matter .. to our Gusy to the capitalists .. This is a pattern .. They grew out of a bureaucratic system with all the bells and whistles (benefits, bonuses, special rations .... the system gave birth to itself a gravedigger, an administrative-party apparatus. The petty-bourgeois element swept the top of the party and the state. Ilyich also warned about this. And Stalin bluntly said that the class struggle would only intensify with the development of socialism. He could still cope with it .. And then it went and went. Look at what the former leaders of the USSR turned into .. th advertises pizza .. and our Ukrainian 1st communist Kravchuk says that he was always a nationalist .. Here's a random pattern ..

          You, alas, are a neo-Darwinist ... therefore you are not aware of the elementary categories like "creator" and "design" ... therefore everything happens spontaneously, by itself.
          This is a vicious circle - it appeared on its own and is happening on its own, as if cars themselves, and even different, unseen models, would appear on a landfill on their own.
          Speaking about the aphorism of K. Prutkov, you do not look at the root, because it is missing for you ... hi
          1. 222222
            222222 9 November 2013 09: 43
            0
            Peaceful Military (1) EE Today, 06:57 ↑
            "you, alas, are a neo-Darwinist ... therefore you are not aware of elementary categories like" creator "and" design ".. You do not see at the root, for it is absent for you .."
            Your answers are simply brilliant .. You probably know Who and When begins to respond with Labels .. leaving the essence of the question .. I will not be likened ...
            And do not touch the Creator with his plan Do not violate his third commandment if you believe in Him: "Do not take the name of the Lord your God in vain" ...
            On the question of God and faith in God, there was a very good interview with the director of the Institute of the Human Brain Natalia Bekhtereva (2004) .. Read.
            http://noosphera1.narod.ru/text/natbeht.htm
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 8 November 2013 17: 35
    +1
    What remains. Saving the dollar is war. I released a book with this title in 2010.

    If the war is lost by the Yankees, their debt will increase hundreds of times, due to indemnities, reparations, etc.
    If it succeeds in destroying the creditors, there will be nothing left to take from them, and there is no one else, the debtors will not be too good.
    Yusovtsy grew fat in a foreign war overseas, on foreign blood. And they themselves to fight and shed blood, and even get an adequate, albeit asymmetric blow to their territory, they only have one gap.
  • Pesnyadv
    Pesnyadv 8 November 2013 17: 37
    +3
    Quote: aksakal
    Quote: GrBear
    Ours should be stepped up in this direction

    - like trying to go into gold.


    In 2011, the share of dollars in the gold currency basket fell by 30%. Replaced by gold and other currencies.
    Today, Russia has 11 holding bonds. And they were the third. Now third place is England. That is, the United States and England today are forced to buy their own bonds.
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  • Albatross
    Albatross 8 November 2013 21: 01
    +2
    ... in no case do not allow Kudrin to finance!
  • bif
    bif 8 November 2013 23: 43
    0
    The average budget deficit for 2001 – 2007 years amounted to 3% of GDP, then rose to 12,9% in 2009, for 2010 – 2012 it decreased to average 6,9% of GDP, and in 2013, after the “fiscal cliff”, it will be 5,8% of GDP. But with economic growth last year at 2,8% of GDP, this year about 2% and expected growth in the next three years about 2,5%, a deficit of more than 3% of GDP is not permissible for the USA

    I will not discuss Kudrin’s nonsense, let’s dwell on this striking example - a solid FALSE and MANIPULATION in numbers. The budget deficit began under Reagan and never fell to such small numbers, because appetites of the military-industrial complex current grew.
    And about GDP growth - this is generally a song.
    "Economists in the US keep repeating about 2.8% growth, although, they say, the expected 3.2%. I just want to ask the vile voice of one pensioner from the Jewish radio: how real are these expectations? What did the US do to develop the economy on these very 3.2 %? By itself, only weeds grow in the garden.

    Smart heads will tell me, they say, for this there is a policy of quantitative easing to put money into circulation, to facilitate the issuance of loans and to launch a purchasing mechanism in the main US sector - the real estate market. For this, a special program was developed that allows those who have lost part of the income to continue to be able to pay a bank loan for their homes. Banks, instead of rushing to re-qualify loans and reduce interest, turned this process over to agencies that stubbornly took money from customers, but the Americans did not pay less. The Russians are constantly indignant that they are being thrown. Let them come to the United States and see how they take at least five thousand from them to start the process of lowering the interest rate, and then they get the answer that the applicant does not fall under the definition formulated in the presidential program, and in the meantime the money paid is by-bye!

    The money received by banks from the state had to go to the markets, but ended up in the bankers' safes. Baby boy Navalny in dirty diapers with his "Rospil" had never even heard of this. In the United States, they are not sawing pieces from the budget, here they are sawing the economies of entire continents, the number of victims is not some small town of 20 thousand inhabitants, but hundreds of millions of inhabitants. For example, for the United States, this is 300 million of its citizens, who will get out of the jam for decades just because some bank bastard stuffed money into their pockets. There is no punishment on earth that these people deserve. Even with the enormous sums received from the state, the citizens reached, roughly speaking, the same 2.8% by which the economy grew. That is, it is just money that leaked into the market, which immediately turned out to be in business and was reflected in the numbers. But the bankers are not sitting in their seats in order to miss what is floating between their hands. They take the money into their hands, and instead of money they throw junk bonds on the stock exchanges - that's how the quotes on the stock exchanges grow ... "http://www.contrpost.com/en/78-2013-05-10-13-45-19 / 3385-evropa-stanovitsya-ameri

    koj
    1. bif
      bif 9 November 2013 00: 02
      0
      Its value exceeded $ 17 trillion last week and is already around 106% of GDP.

      External debt is only part of the total debt, and SMALL ..

      "One of the official sources of total US debt is the US Federal Reserve's quarterly Financial Accounts of the United States. Flow of Funds, Balance Sheets and Integrated Macroeconomic Accounts" (http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/Z1/Current/ z1.pdf) According to this source, as of mid-2013, the total US debt amounted to 41,04 trillion. Doll. In addition to government debt, the largest components were the following (trillion dollars): household debt (approximately equal to the debt of individuals) - 12,97; debt of non-financial companies - 13,10; debt of states and local authorities - 3,01; financial sector debt - 13,91. According to the Fed, the debt of the financial and non-financial sectors of the US economy amounted to 27 trillion. dollars, or 2 / 3 total debt of the USA.
      The total value of total US debt is 2,4 times greater than the value of US government debt. The total US debt estimated by the Federal Reserve is approximately 250% of GDP.

      US Total Debt: Alternative Estimates

      Unofficial estimates of the total US debt are significantly higher than the above Fed data. Most of these estimates range from 60 to 70 trillion dollars (as of this year).

      You can refer to the indicators of the “American debt counter” we mentioned. This is not a toy, as some believe, but an intellectual product, which is based on a serious calculation methodology. As of October 6 2013 year, he determined the value of the total US debt in 60,00 trillion. Doll.
      At the same time, the following components of total debt (trillion dollars) are highlighted on the counter display: state debt - 16,97; state government debt - 1,19; local government debt - 1,79; debt of individuals - 15,87.

      "Unallocated balance" turned out to be equal to 24,18 trillion. dollars. It can be assumed that this includes debts of the financial and non-financial sectors of the economy. On the scoreboard you can get a more detailed picture of the debt of individuals. The main components of this debt (trillion dollars): mortgage debt - 12,92; student loan debt - 1,03; credit card debt - 0,85.
      The counter also provides information on the relative level of total US debt: it is equal to 377% of GDP... .. "http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1259850/
  • Misantrop
    Misantrop 9 November 2013 00: 06
    +3
    Quote: Peaceful military
    So it's not about the United States ...

    1000% right. We happened to live in the sunset of Jewish civilization. When the globalization of information flows brought up all their secret enrichment schemes that have worked without fail for centuries ...
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 9 November 2013 00: 10
      0
      Quote: Misantrop
      We happened to live in the sunset of Jewish civilization. When the globalization of information flows brought up all their secret enrichment schemes that have worked without fail for centuries ...


      there is no sunset, and is not expected ...? Civilization rules!
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 9 November 2013 00: 32
        +2
        Quote: studentmati
        there is no sunset, and is not expected ..
        I'm not talking about universal sunset. Just about the sunset of this system of commodity-money relations. The theory and practice of loan interest have exhausted themselves completely ... request
  • Pesnyadv
    Pesnyadv 9 November 2013 03: 05
    0
    Quote: bif
    Its value exceeded $ 17 trillion last week and is already around 106% of GDP.

    External debt is only part of the total debt, and SMALL ..

    "One of the official sources of total US debt is the US Federal Reserve's quarterly Financial Accounts of the United States. Flow of Funds, Balance Sheets and Integrated Macroeconomic Accounts" (http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/Z1/Current/ z1.pdf) According to this source, as of mid-2013, the total US debt amounted to 41,04 trillion. Doll. In addition to government debt, the largest components were the following (trillion dollars): household debt (approximately equal to the debt of individuals) - 12,97; debt of non-financial companies - 13,10; debt of states and local authorities - 3,01; financial sector debt - 13,91. According to the Fed, the debt of the financial and non-financial sectors of the US economy amounted to 27 trillion. dollars, or 2 / 3 total debt of the USA.
    The total value of total US debt is 2,4 times greater than the value of US government debt. The total US debt estimated by the Federal Reserve is approximately 250% of GDP.

    US Total Debt: Alternative Estimates

    Unofficial estimates of the total US debt are significantly higher than the above Fed data. Most of these estimates range from 60 to 70 trillion dollars (as of this year).

    You can refer to the indicators of the “American debt counter” we mentioned. This is not a toy, as some believe, but an intellectual product, which is based on a serious calculation methodology. As of October 6 2013 year, he determined the value of the total US debt in 60,00 trillion. Doll.
    At the same time, the following components of total debt (trillion dollars) are highlighted on the counter display: state debt - 16,97; state government debt - 1,19; local government debt - 1,79; debt of individuals - 15,87.

    "Unallocated balance" turned out to be equal to 24,18 trillion. dollars. It can be assumed that this includes debts of the financial and non-financial sectors of the economy. On the scoreboard you can get a more detailed picture of the debt of individuals. The main components of this debt (trillion dollars): mortgage debt - 12,92; student loan debt - 1,03; credit card debt - 0,85.
    The counter also provides information on the relative level of total US debt: it is equal to 377% of GDP... .. "http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1259850/


    Comparing the US economy with the economy of Russia or European countries is a thankless task.
    This is how to look for a similarity between white and direct.

    The United States has long lived not at the expense of earned, but at the expense of stolen !!!

    The US Congress audited the Fed of its country.
    Achieved this for many years.
    The US Federal Reserve has a formidable name, but it is a purely private company.
    There a lot of interesting things showed up ..
    One, but very funny.
    In the period from 2007 to 2010, the US Federal Reserve issued about 16 trillion dollars and they, without having passed registration in the US government, disappeared !!!

    This is in just three years. And this is in addition to the official US debt for today.
    According to some experts, the total US debt is about $ 100 trillion.

    The US government does not allow an audit of its Gold Reserve.
    The government does not allow other countries to check their gold reserves, which they previously sent to America for storage.
    For example, the USA does not allow Germany to check its gold reserves, which they previously sent to America for storage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mib5oXBv64U
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 9 November 2013 08: 10
    0
    It is strange to read comments about the economic and financial situation in America, but the author tore one of the main pro-American figures, Kudrin! After all, it was he and others like him who firmly tied our ruble to the paper dollar, it is thanks to these dealers that our funds are clearly and secretly flowing into the USA (we pay tribute It's time to untie the ruble from dollar dependence and decide for ourselves how much and when we can print rubles (taking into account their security, and we have something to provide)! And it's time to send all these "great liberal" financiers and economists to generally useful work on the development of remote regions of Russia! Kylo and teloreechka have been waiting for this fraternity for a long time! It's time for the Guarantor to decide on the question: with whom and for whom! And the war is a troublesome business and it is not known what it will bring amers (hardly something good)!