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Islam declared jihad. Why Islamists are like fascists

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At the window there is a prayer mat, a Koran on a shelf, a blinking computer on the table and many books. At the table, a fragile woman in hijab is the author of a number of examinations about the creation of the Wahhabi International in Russia. The woman’s name is Galina Khizrieva, she’s a researcher at the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies. Galina told the "RR" correspondent who declared jihad to Islam.


Islam declared jihad. Why Islamists are like fascists

Are you always wearing a hijab?

Nearly. No one is afraid of me, no one connects with me "black" thoughts, I do not blackmail anyone.

Muslim girls in the Stavropol region also came to school wearing hijabs not to blackmail, but to learn. But they were banned.

But their parents were blackmailing the authorities. And it goes on. The other day in Kazakhstan almost a first grader in a black hijab came to school. Teachers and children face stretched. Behind her came a dad with a beard almost to his waist. In the Arab pants. And he began to shout at the teachers: “You must ...” There is a big dad behind every little girl in the hijab, be it in Stavropol, Pyatigorsk or Kazan. He pulls up brothers, someone else, and begins "human rights" stories. This is a provocation.

You do not provoke, coming to Tyumen or Samara in the hijab?

I know where and to whom I go. Even if this is a Muslim event, I can be not in a hijab, but in a headscarf tied in Tatar style. Or just put on a shawl. It is one thing if a person consciously chooses to be dressed as he is. It’s another thing if they put pressure on a girl, and through her - on those around her. So the child is drawn into the struggle. In Islam, up to 14 years or until her period started, a girl can walk without a handkerchief. Therefore, the requirements to allow them to go to hijabs to school are not so much parents, they are a tool, but completely different people. After a series of conflicts in the Stavropol Territory, the local authorities, the muftiat, proposed to create general education schools at mosques where girls can walk in headscarves. Parents are rioting again. They do not need a good education for girls. Not about saving their souls. And it's not about Islam. They want to use it for other purposes.

Do I understand correctly that in a growing number of stories with hijabs, the confrontation between traditional and modern Islam is encrypted?

I do not see a confrontation between traditional and radical Islam. People sometimes ask me: “What do Muslims profess”? I answer: "Islam." And the Islamists? I answer: "Islamism." Do you know what's the difference between them? They are not related to each other in any way. Islam is a religion. Islamism has nothing to do with religion.

Hard. And what about me, not a Muslim, but a person living in a country where 12% is Muslim? Trying to understand how traditionalists are different from Salafis, and those from Wahhabis?

There is a call for dialogue in your question. I would go to a wider level of generalizations. The Arab world has gone to dialogue with the radical Islamists. And what came of it? "To the ground, and then"? They do not know, but we know: then darkness comes, mess and horror. Well, they overthrew the Sunni leadership in Iraq, dismembered and turned Iraq and Libya upside down. What have you achieved? What did the Islamists have achieved in Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, or in belligerent Syria? Darkness and anarchy. It all began with a debate on the interpretation of the Koran sura or from the same hijab on the heads of girls, no matter where, in Tunisia, in France or in Yemen. With all due respect to the right of nations to self-determination, I see what the dialogue with the Islamists has led to. And I remember the Prophet’s Hadith: “In that city where there is no doctor, you can enter, but do not. In a city where there is no ruler, it is better not to go at all. "

How not to enter the territory of disputes around Islam, if they are around? Won Islamist and the opponent of extremism, Raisa Suleymanov, the prosecutor's office of Tatarstan issued a warning "about the inadmissibility of extremist activity."

Rais Suleymanov is just a translator of the contradictions that exist in society. Why was he accused of extremism — the privileges of the Wahhabis? In short, because Kafil Amirov, the prosecutor who issued this scandalous warning, hastily been removed from office. This is a consequence of the wave-like growth of the influence of the Wahhabi holding of Russia, as warned by Suleymanov. The term was brought into circulation by the terrorists Valiullah-hazrat Yakupov killed in 2012. He was one of the first to speak about the danger of merging the Wahhabi underground and official Kazan. And in 90, it all started romantically - with the respect of officials for the religion of their ancestors. Plus an element of corruption - and at the exit traditional Islam in Tatarstan is being forced out to the periphery. He became the religion of the elderly. The “fathers and children” conflict is evident: funding from Saudi Arabia, training young people in OAU, Egypt or Qatar have led to the dressing, marital behavior and mentality of some young Muslim Tatars copying the Arab mentality. What is happening in the Middle East is closer to them than life in Russia. In any wealthy Tatar village, one can see satellite antennas tuned to Al-Jazeera or Arabia. So, the removal from office of a prosecutor sympathizing with the Wahhabis does not mean anything in the sense of a victory over the Wahhabi holding.

Now I understand why Muslim Raisa Suleymanova Heydar Jemal, chairman of the Islamic Committee of Russia, called it “Islamophobe.”

Through Cemal, Islamist propaganda is gaining momentum. He supports the forces that are trying to transform the religious concept into “revolutionary” or “modern” ostensibly Islam.

How did it happen that by 2013, the creation of the “Wahhabi International” became possible in almost all regions of Russia with the exception of Chukotka?

There are no Wahhabis in Chukotka for one reason: a closed border zone. And warehouses with weapons they are already found in Tyumen, Surgut, Omsk, in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District. Islamists take root where there is oil and gas. They think strategically. The integral part of the Wahhabi holding company is crypto-Wahhabi and crypto-ichanna are people in power. They use the principle of takiyya, hiding their own beliefs, which is criticized among the Shiites. We see them on TV, we even choose them, because they say the right things about the state, but at the same time they finance those who go to jihad.

Can you name names?

I am not under interrogation and I am not obliged to give names, passwords, appearances, but I know that there is something like this in the Khanty-Mansiysk Autonomous Okrug, in Nizhny Novgorod, Kazan, in Dagestan, Ingushetia. This is a thoughtful strategy. It derives from the ideologies that Islamists have for each case. Their “Russian” ideology: oil belongs to Muslims all over the world, this is “the special favor of the Most High” to Muslims. Do the Jews have no oil? “This is their punishment. God does not love them, God loves us. Where there are Muslims, there is oil. ” Oil is a Muslim product, the Wahhabis believe. And the Russian Islam was suppressed, although Kazan, Tyumen, the Urals and then Siberia are the Siberian Khanate. Chechnya and Absheron, by their notions, are quite adjacent here. This belief in the exclusivity of some "Muslims" has been cultivated by the United States and Great Britain for decades. First, through human rights organizations, today through the people of Al-Qaida, who, by the way, including senators and congressmen of the United States, parliamentarians of Great Britain. Hillary Clinton’s senatorial campaign was partly financed by their ihvans.

True, with the rampage of the “Arab spring” the United States began to realize that the instrument of globalism that they grew up becomes unmanageable. It's not even the Muslim Brothers or the Taliban. This is an external manifestation of deep-seated processes - Islamist banking and vikh - jurisprudence, a network of government structures that are parallel to state structures, international drug trafficking, and the underground arms trade. Even at the official level - what do the Arabs themselves do? They are designed by the Japanese and the Germans, the Indians and the Chinese are building, the Russian and African Muslims and Afghans are fighting for them. They already behave like a “white bone”. Here are the consequences of cultivating exclusivity.

How effective is the idea of ​​Euroislam, which Kazan is trying to implement, in opposing the Islamists?

In practice, as I see, only a part of its creators believe in it. This is a kind of construct that is not shared by either the traditionalists or the Salafis and Wahhabis. But Islamist mediation terminology works. Remember, at the start of 90, many, including the basic terms, began to be rethought? For example, we abandoned the concept of “state security” because of the analogy with the KGB and introduced the concept of national security. And national security does not mean state security. This is a tricky thing. For the first time this term sounded when the US had to take away the Panama Canal.

Following the United States in the 60-ies, Muslims have started talking about the semantic reconfiguration of Islamic terms. In English-language works, they write about the epistemological - filling Islam with political content. Al-Qaradawi, a theologian from Egypt, says that if you believe in 99% Islam, but you do not believe in 1%, which is politics, you are not a Muslim. And it turns out that as social life we ​​fill with other meanings, replacing national security with national, and in religious one we change the established meanings.


Is this the very “Islamic project” of the USA, created for the 80's war in Afghanistan?

He tried it there. And around the world, the Muslim Brotherhood cells began to form as early as the 50 – 60s, when after the war, Europe needed manpower. The first to arrive in Switzerland were the ideologues of Ikhvanism, Saeed Ramadan and Hassan al-Banna. They and their followers were taken to the special services.

When it turned out that the networks of the Muslims of Ikhvan were involved in a series of murders in the Middle East, they were started to be driven out of there. They moved to Saudi Arabia, joined the Wahhabis. The roots of Wahhabism are deeper. They are in the unresolved problems of the Second World War. The ferment of Wahhabism in Europe is connected with the ideology of fascism. There was a mufti of Palestine, Al-Husseini. He led the Muslim army of Hitler, for which the "Muslim" form was developed. In the Muslim world, including in the occupied territories of the USSR, this army distributed leaflets - in Turkish, but written in Arabic script - that Hitler secretly converted to Islam, his name is Haidar.

Today's reincarnation of fascism is like tracing from the past. Favorite Islamist legend: "Obama is a secret Muslim." In the sense of Islamist. The Ikhwan greet each other with a raised hand, while the Wahhabis and Salafis greet each other with a finger raised up. Among the Ikhvanians, the “new Heil” is called “rabbia” - after the square in Cairo, where their comrades died recently.

So this is why Chechen Wahhabis say that a finger raised up means: “Allah is one”? And they, unlike the traditionalists, "profess true Islam, directly appeal to the Almighty, and Sufis - through intermediaries."

I see no reason to discuss a form devoid of content. To put it bluntly, the denseness and hypocrisy of the Islamists know no boundaries. Here it is believed that the Salafis are more moderate than the Wahhabis. "Moderate", they can not yet break society. Their ideologue, Al-Qaradawi, says: “Go out on your way when conditions are ripe. They will ripen when they become the neck of the authorities or their brains. ” And these people are trying.

I know, for example, that among the forest fraternity of Chechnya and Dagestan, the weather is made including by the children of those people who work in Gazprom or in the banking sector of Makhachkala. Their children are studying or graduated from Oxford, Yale. The same Boston terrorist Tsarnaev studied in Cambridge, which the "tactful" Americans are silent about. He lived in a villa with a mufti. I can't send my child to Cambridge. Simple families are uninteresting to the Islamists, except as cannon fodder. They are interested to penetrate through the children in the oligarchic and government environments. And for children from poor families, they fool their heads with “ravia”, a raised finger, or sex jihad.

What is sex jihad?

This is when a young Muslim woman is obliged to provide sexual services to militants in any country. Islamists have fatwas related to the “holy imperative” of sex jihad. Such "Islam", which they are trying to impose, fitna - moral decay. That seems to be a given: all religions call for chastity. In addition to Wahhabism. Jihad sex, in their fatwas, is chastity. I was shocked by the story of a Syriac who was married to a member of the opposition group Jabhat al-Nusra. When she came to her husband, at first he “married” to her, then during the day she changed eight “husbands” and killed herself. But if you tell Wahhabi that it is a crime or fornication, he will be indignant: "No, this is marriage."

In Islam, there is the concept of "fytra" - religious feeling. Islamists cleaned it up. These very epistemological - semantic reconfiguration of Islamic terms - which wrapped the fascist "Mein Kampf" in a kind of "Islamic" cover. So the Islamists slander Islam, misinterpret the words of the Almighty, attribute to him cruelty, which he allegedly blessed. And ordinary people start to think: “God, is this Islam?”

Things reached the point that the Islamists' free interpretations are inscribed in the Quran and translated into Russian by Elmir Kuliev from Azerbaijan. And although this translation by mufti is forbidden precisely because it contains the Wahhabi discourse, you can download it on the Internet or buy it. So there are "other Muslims."

You once said that “we, the Muslims of the Caucasus, are not like all Russians. We are really different. ” What kind?

We are on the front line more than the rest of Russia. Since 90, we have experienced several wars, terrorism and bandit underground continue to put pressure on us, we experience the whole power of the world behind the scenes. This is a tremendous pressure. Each of us, especially in Dagestan, has to make a choice up to the 12 – 13-year-old child. Do not convey the power of this pressure: Islamist, financial, corrupt, terrorist and the pressure of hostility from the rest of Russia. Can people living in such conditions be different? But both we and the rest of Russia still have to understand and accept that we are different. Geopolitically breaking away from Russia is the same as the Caucasus taking off and moving to Saudi Arabia or Qatar. The pressure is that the Caucasus should make a civilization choice. And those who do not divide him must leave us. For a simple reason: to live in two, three, four, five morals and interpretations of faith is hell.

Isn't this the reason why non-Muslims have a persistent idea that Islam and terrorism are almost synonymous?

Islam, which we offer, I, a Muslim, too, I fear. This is not the religion of my ancestors, neither the Prophet, nor the great-grandfathers, nor the heroes of the Caucasian War, nor Imam Shamil, bequeathed me to live like this. Islamism is a breeding ground for the growth of both Islamophobia and Russophobia.

How can the Russians not be afraid of Islam, if the Muslim leaders in the country - in Kislovodsk, Tyumen, Khabarovsk - are blackmailing for the construction of mosques? Muftis hint officials at the unrest and use liberal legislation, but the big question is: who and what will preach at these services?

The last question is the main one. We do not have a single region, where there would be one mufti or theologian. As a rule, they are two or three, and they compete. Artificial competition is created by the state and local authorities. But it is the authorities who pour water on the mill of anti-state forces. Stories with mosques — it doesn't matter, Stavropol, the Yembaevskiy madrasah in Tyumen, where Wahhabi imams or Khabarovsk have been trained for decades — the state behaves as if there are no Muslims. The situation in Nizhny Novgorod is especially indicative. It is simply an anti-model of relations between the state and denominations. The postulate of power is silent, but cynical: “Do you even kill each other in a mosque, and we ...”

What began in Nizhny Novgorod?

There, through police cordons, people go to namaz. This is all that a state can do. Although nothing foreshadowed the conflict of "fathers and children." About 15 years the position of the head of the spiritual administration of Muslims of the Nizhny Novgorod region was held by Umar-hazrat Idrisov. Some time ago several people appeared in his circle, who received Islamic education in Saudi Arabia. He promoted them for years, gave up his place in the Public Chamber, then the position of the head of the spiritual administration of Muslims of the Nizhny Novgorod region. And it all ended with the fact that they even took away the mosque where he preached. His former parishioners began to put pressure on him: “Wahhabism rises here, Islam is expelled, let's return!” He tried. But from the village of Rybushkino - the clan village of Damira-Khazrat Mukhetdinov, the head of the Muslim spiritual department of the Nizhny Novgorod region and the first deputy chairman of the council of muftis of Russia - his parishioners came to vote for the removal of Idrisov from ROM. When they realized that only members of the local community had the right to vote, a fight ensued.

Imam did not understand what is taught in Saudi Arabia?

This, and now many do not understand. Talgat-hazrat Tajuddin, chairman of the Central Spiritual Board of Muslims of Russia, recently stopped sending young people to Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other Arab madrasas. But now they go, on personal funds or those that are offered to them from abroad.

Why, by the way, not only they, but also mercenaries legally go on jihad to Syria or earlier to other countries?

There is no law that would prohibit Russian citizens from participating in wars in third countries. This happened with the former Yugoslavia, Abkhazia, and now with Syria and Afghanistan. Russia after perestroika joined many documents of international law. And its architecture, including ethnic law, is so arranged that it does not hinder, but, on the contrary, supports the armed struggle of groups for freedom and sovereignty. Therefore, we cannot persecute our citizens for participating on the side of the militants, who are considered “opposition”.

But those who return, no matter whether they studied or fought, create a social anti-system inside Russia. Maybe it's time to revise the laws?

I will say more. Now people have returned from Syria to the Khanty-Mansiysk Autonomous Okrug, to Surgut. They arrived on the prepared ground - by those who had previously freed themselves from the Guantanamo prison camp and settled in Bashkiria, Siberia, Tatarstan and the Caucasus. I am afraid that the period of their creation of anti-systems is yesterday. They create other civilization systems, while maintaining the existing law and order. And we are trying to conduct “intercultural and interreligious dialogue” with them. With people who, in fact, have neither culture nor religion.

Islamism is a non-negotiable ideology, it is fundamentally adapted for war. I am convinced that before it is too late, we must adopt a law banning Wahhabism. Or, for a start, at least go back to the regional, already developed in Dagestan in 1999, law “On Wahhabi and other extremist activities”. Of course, it needs to be updated and supplemented, and then transferred to the federal level. The only way.

As we know, it is impossible to build communism in a single country. It is also impossible to fight Wahhabism in a single Dagestan or Surgut. From under the Islamists it is necessary to consistently knock out the ideology of exclusivity. Now they are beating external attributes - hijab, beard, Arab pants. This is a loss. A convinced Wahhabi in our society is clean-shaven, dressed like an English dandy, and sits, for example, in the Public Chamber, in the regional parliament or works in respectable banks or corporations.

Therefore, the law banning Islamism must correspond to the level of threats. It must be different for different regions. At the same time, it is impossible to break the Muslim community, or the Ummah, through the knee, as it happens in Nizhny Novgorod. Ummah is the guardian of Russian Islam. And when the format of legislation lags behind the level of growing threats, it becomes confused. Like society. People begin to hide behind Islamophobia and Russophobia.

Does the state adequately assess the level of threats?

Not. It only became aware of the depth of the threat in 2013. But what the “Islamic project” is, how global it is, as I see it, the authorities do not fully understand.
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  1. Stinger
    Stinger 7 November 2013 18: 04
    67
    It is time to create a structure to combat Wahhabism similar to SMERSH. Otherwise it will be too late.
    1. catapractic
      catapractic 7 November 2013 18: 47
      18
      I heard about such groups, called Mossad and Shabak very effective bully
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 7 November 2013 20: 18
        +8
        Quote: cataphractium
        I heard of such groups called Mossad and Shabak

        Quote: Stinger
        It's time to create a structure to combat Wahhabism

        Mossad and others are created together for Wahhabism)). They have one boss)).
      2. their
        their 7 November 2013 22: 59
        -1
        Bees against honey
      3. Paul sibert
        Paul sibert 8 November 2013 06: 39
        0
        It is high time... angry
    2. Mature naturalist
      Mature naturalist 7 November 2013 20: 57
      0
      White arrow - 2
    3. timer
      timer 8 November 2013 00: 39
      +3
      Before creating something, it is necessary at least to comprehend this problem, analyze it, and only then create it! So far, our "leader", in my opinion, has neither one nor the other. The article is interesting and competently presented. I am sure that it is necessary to support traditional Islam at the state level, train theologians and imams ourselves (and not send them to the Saudis), create a law against radical Islam with imprisoning its disseminators, create an alliance of authoritative elders to solve this and other issues in the republics of the Volga region and the North Caucasus. This is in brief.
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 8 November 2013 05: 58
      +1
      maybe a green arrow? by analogy with "white" ....
    5. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 8 November 2013 10: 06
      +2
      // Does the state adequately assess the level of threats?

      No. It began to realize the depth of the threat only in 2013. But what is the “Islamic project”, how global it is, as it seems to me, the authorities do not fully understand.

      Absolutely said! This is a dangerous political game that threatens many countries of the former USSR, Islamism is an enemy not only of Islam itself, but also of an ordinary stable peaceful life. An internal struggle is coming with the revolutionary elements of the satanic spawn in the guise of fascism-Islamism. Get ready people. God bless us.
    6. Dan master
      Dan master 8 November 2013 11: 32
      0
      If you understand the essence, then I think it’s obvious that Islam will destroy itself.
  2. kafa
    kafa 7 November 2013 18: 06
    +8
    I WILL NOT TALK SIMPLY PHOTOS
    1. FREGATENKAPITAN
      FREGATENKAPITAN 7 November 2013 18: 30
      14
      Well then, and I will add to the topic .............
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 7 November 2013 20: 05
        +5
        FREGATENCAPTAIN (1) SU Today, 18:30 PM ↑ New
        Well then, and I will add to the topic .............

        And I, from the bulldozer:
      2. smersh70
        smersh70 7 November 2013 21: 31
        +2
        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        Well then, and I will add to the topic .....

        so he is a Muslim or a Cossack, a Vlasov, for example ... wassat
        1. matross
          matross 7 November 2013 22: 02
          0
          In the photo, probably, a non-commissioned officer of the Caucasian security corps of the Wehrmacht
          (had in its composition 5 divisions).
          1. FREGATENKAPITAN
            FREGATENKAPITAN 7 November 2013 22: 21
            +1
            That's right ... I won’t call the nationality of this gentleman .. (so as not to incite .....)
          2. FREGATENKAPITAN
            FREGATENKAPITAN 7 November 2013 22: 21
            0
            That's right ... I won’t call the nationality of this gentleman .. (so as not to incite .....)
    2. Ihrek
      Ihrek 7 November 2013 18: 36
      10
      You want to say 100 Vlasov army, or the UPA was not, but there were only them. Traitors and criminals, and there are traitors and criminals and should not be divided into friends and foes. This is definitely not in favor of our common country.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 7 November 2013 18: 46
        10
        Quote: ...
        At the same time, it is impossible to break the Muslim community through the knee


        There was such a Reverend Herman of Alaska, so he said, if it were not for the Christians, Christianity would have conquered the whole world long ago.

        This is me to that it is necessary to distinguish who is hu. So as not to break firewood
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 7 November 2013 20: 18
          10
          Quote: Vadivak
          This is me to that it is necessary to distinguish who is hu. So as not to break firewood


          I will add to the topic
          This is the heading “Arkatov IMHO” and its host and co-author Ivan Arkatov.

      2. catapractic
        catapractic 7 November 2013 18: 47
        +9
        scum everywhere was enough
        1. alone
          alone 7 November 2013 19: 33
          10
          everyone has filth. no one is an exception.
      3. Gunsmith
        Gunsmith 7 November 2013 20: 40
        0
        In fact, only in the rear units there were more than two million Russians. There weren’t much options - either to the camp, or to repair the roads. And on the topic of the article - I don’t care if you’re a convinced Islamist or vovchik - we’ve wetted, wetted and will be wetted. 14/88 !!! Zig would say - yes, I'm afraid moderators will not miss. I drenched ischo across the river, hello Kandahar.
        1. Max_Bauder
          Max_Bauder 8 November 2013 10: 16
          0
          Quote: Gunsmith
          And on the topic of the article - I don’t care if you’re a convinced Islamist or vovchik - we’ve wetted, wetted and will be wetted. 14/88 !!! Zig would say - yes, I'm afraid moderators will not miss


          Are you a fascist chtoli?
          1. Alexey Prikazchikov
            Alexey Prikazchikov 8 November 2013 13: 07
            +2
            Are you a fascist chtoli?


            He is a young dolbo ... b while still carrying wild crap and hiding behind a "river". He will wet the sponge and grow mudazvon.
      4. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 8 November 2013 14: 18
        0
        Jamal ........ everywhere there are traitors, etc ...... but it is here and now that there is a discussion in the context of this article ................. .... And mind Russia (USSR) has never denied the presence of these ....... people so to speak ..............
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    4. UmaR
      UmaR 8 November 2013 00: 23
      -1
      And I will say, during the war during the period of occupation in Russia there were 200 thousand policemen and they were Russian! yes .
    5. UmaR
      UmaR 8 November 2013 00: 32
      0
      kafa

      And I will say, during the war during the period of occupation in Russia there were 200 thousand policemen and they were Russian! yes .
      1. hrych
        hrych 8 November 2013 00: 58
        +4
        The issue is controversial, the majority of the maces were recruited from minorities such as the Crimean Tatars, Bandera, the Baltic states, etc., in the ancestral Russian lands the enemy did not stay long to form a full-fledged administration, military operations were conducted there with varying success, but in the Baltic, Ukraine and Crimea a couple of years it was where the police were in demand. Another thing ROA, but this is a prisoner of war and a separate story, the most important thing is that they did not participate in battles with their own, except for a couple of minor episodes (although the German commanders appreciated the courage and skill, which cannot be said about the Romanians, etc.), but became famous for that liberated Prague from the Germans, saving it from complete destruction. Even the "Russian traitors" covered yourself with military glory... Hence the humane attitude towards them after the victory, the leaders, headed by Vlasov, were executed, and the rest were able to survive, in practice they were most often sentenced to six-year special settlements and were not prosecuted. "
  3. Igor39
    Igor39 7 November 2013 18: 11
    11
    Repression and shooting, there are no other types of struggle against Islamism.
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 7 November 2013 18: 25
      +6
      Quote: Igor39
      Repression and shooting, there are no other types of struggle against Islamism.

      Only mass destruction - no other means.
    2. catapractic
      catapractic 7 November 2013 18: 50
      +9
      the main thing is to deprive them of funding. FOR WAR 3 ITEMS NEEDED - MONEY, MONEY and MONEY - Napoleon Bonaparte.
      1. Warrawar
        Warrawar 7 November 2013 18: 56
        +1
        Quote: cataphractium
        the main thing is to deprive them of funding. FOR WAR 3 ITEMS NEEDED - MONEY, MONEY and MONEY - Napoleon Bonaparte.

        Sorry, but it is very difficult to do this, due to the fact that the financial support of the Islamists is provided by the richest oil producing countries in the world (Qatar, Saudi Arabia). There is an option, only a universal bikot, for the purchase of resources from these countries, by the international community.
        1. catapractic
          catapractic 7 November 2013 19: 14
          0
          I agree, but for this you still need to make an effort
        2. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 7 November 2013 19: 20
          +1
          In! and purchase from us) support)))
          1. Warrawar
            Warrawar 8 November 2013 08: 05
            0
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            In! and purchase from us) support)))

            If the Western countries had brains, then they would have done so a long time ago - they would have formed a military-economic bloc with Russia and would have crushed the whole world together. But alas ...
    3. Gunsmith
      Gunsmith 7 November 2013 20: 46
      0
      Have you forgotten the stove? Enough firewood!
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 7 November 2013 18: 12
    19
    Finally, an article appeared addressing this topic, and then any criticism of Islam and Muslims is declared to be inciting ethnic hatred.

    And I want to find out why people appear in the Muslim world who can calmly shoot a cold-blooded murder of a dissident (non-believer) on a video camera while screaming ALLAH AKBAR (GOD GREAT).
    I will never believe that God in any faith approves the killing of innocent people.

    A convinced Wahhabi in our society is clean-shaven, dressed like an English dandy, and sits, for example, in the Public Chamber, in the regional parliament or works in respectable banks or corporations.- would add to this a Wahhabi can be a person of any nationality who shares their misanthropic views.
    1. major071
      major071 7 November 2013 18: 38
      +7
      That's right, his job is to brainwash and bring a new suicide bomber who will undermine himself and the hated Russians (Tatars, Mordovians, Kalmyks), i.e. those people who do not share his views, while he himself does not seek paradise.
    2. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 7 November 2013 18: 39
      12
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      while shouting ALLAH AKBAR (GOD GREAT).

      - and we will also shout "Allahu akbar!" and "God is great!", but exclusively in the interests of Russia. And what?, As for me, so "Allahu akbar" in Russian is better than "Allahu akbar!" in Anglo-Saxon ...
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 7 November 2013 18: 56
        +8
        DAGESTAN333-I ask you to understand correctly what interests there may be in a person who shot a woman in cold blood (I have such a video) and then, with a smart look, begins to wave a finger, convincing of the correctness of his actions.
        There should be no justification for this from any point of view.
        For the sake of the interests of RUSSIA, I will not kill women and children because it is the road to hell.
        A striking example is Hitler's Germany where the SS men sending millions of people to the next world were absolutely sure that they were doing this for the good of their homeland and country.
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 7 November 2013 19: 24
          17
          Lyokha, british, forgive me, but I don’t seem to remember that in the interests of Russia, women were killed ..., children ...
          I just propose destroying those who kill women, children, priests of any religion, those who harm our society, and other lovers of dishonor. And then, with the same modest facial expression, say that Allah is with us.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 7 November 2013 19: 44
            +4
            I agree - evil can only be defeated in this way.
    3. CTEPX
      CTEPX 7 November 2013 20: 25
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      And I want to find out why people appear in the Muslim world who can calmly shoot a cold-blooded murder of a dissident on a video camera.

      For the same reason that Nazism was advertised)). They are going to be sent to Russia, so that we disembodied them, but could not (did not have time) put the guides in the stall)).
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 7 November 2013 21: 23
        +4
        I am delighted with these Anglo-Saxons ... they themselves come up with a world-wide problem, and then, under the pretext of a scientific experiment, send the problem to be treated by a doctor named Russia.
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  5. Alexei
    Alexei 7 November 2013 18: 17
    +5
    From under the Islamists it is necessary to consistently knock out the ideology of exclusivity.
    Well, of course that's right, only here the "-under" could not be printed here. History remembers that the ideology of exclusivity was beaten out of the Islamists, apparently they (the Islamists) like it.
  6. avt
    avt 7 November 2013 18: 19
    12
    It is high time for Geidar Dzhemal and his accomplice Shevchenko to build a canal, or for a cutting area. I will never forget how he talked about "passionate Arab boys", the very ones who burned cars in Parisik in revenge for two of theirs who hid from the police and naturally burned down in a transformer booth. For all this fraternity there is one recipe, well tested in Syria - lead lotions and mustard plaster from napalm. negative nowhere.
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 7 November 2013 18: 35
      +5
      Quote: avt
      Heydar Dzhemal and his accomplice Shevchenko it’s high time to define some channel or to the cutting area

      Yes, that's for sure, These are two scum, and especially Shevchenko. The worst thing is that these geeks are shown on central television ...
  7. Humpty
    Humpty 7 November 2013 18: 19
    11
    Today, the husband (father, brother) forced to put on a burqa, tomorrow will force to attach the bomb. Paranja is a symbol of Islamist hatred - racism. I do not see the difference between Basayev and Rosenberg. She wore a burqa, which means the whole family is plagued by Islamic hatred and a point.
  8. major071
    major071 7 November 2013 18: 20
    17
    Most Muslims who practice traditional Islam are themselves against Wahhabism. Wahhabism is artificially imposed, people are seduced by money, forced to threaten and use the theological illiteracy of youth, and not only youth.
    1. Altona
      Altona 7 November 2013 20: 33
      +3
      Wahhabism is a religious fascism, it "offers" a primitive and radical solution to all problems, to take away from the infidels and divide between the brothers ... They have Allah like Vladimir Ilyich, a character to whom everything that is beneficial now can be attributed ...
  9. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 7 November 2013 18: 21
    +7
    The muftis hint officials at the riots and use liberal legislation, but the big question is: who will preach at what services?

    It’s time for the authorities to do something .. It’s reassuring that Russia is no longer quoted as a multinational country .. Islamic radicalism has spread throughout Russia .. And it’s too late to adopt laws ..! It’s a pity that there is no Cossacks like under the Russian Empire .. (it was easier then) .. We need to arm ourselves (I’ve read it more than once on Muslim sites .. everyone is waiting for a signal ..) and no nuclear weapons and tank destroyers will help us from the general massacre .. This the option is quite real .. Just look at how they look at you ... It's time to act!
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 7 November 2013 19: 15
      17
      There are prophecies that there will come a time when Muslims will be oppressed everywhere, humiliate, declare us enemies of humanity, but only those who will make us an enemy of humanity will themselves be the true enemies of humanity. Our leader, Imam Mahdi, will guide us. But with the antichrist, we can cope only under the command of the prophet Jesus, who will come down at the most difficult time and will lead us.
      The task of the Orthodox Christians, and representatives of other sane religions, at least not to interfere with Muslims in the fight against the Enemy. And we Muslims, for sure, know who our Enemy is. And those lohosaur jihadists who here and there cut off the heads of Christian priests for show off on the camera ... there is also a government on them.
      Here are such ... modest prophecies in our country.
      1. major071
        major071 7 November 2013 19: 53
        13
        Magomed, you have very good prophecies and I hope that they come true.
      2. shasherin_pavel
        shasherin_pavel 7 November 2013 20: 14
        +2
        The Prophet Issa, that is, Jesus Christ, dictated the same to the Prophet John the Philologist or the Theologian, but even here there is a drawback that the texts of the Bible that R.B. The Society is printed from the finished slides of 1963 or 1967. published under the Communists, who were not very bothered by grammatical errors in the Bible or translation errors, sometimes the absence of several verses in a row in one chapter, which are clearly visible when compared with the texts of the Church Slavonic Bible published by the 1900 publishing house. But ... these prophecies speak of the fight against paganism - the worship of Bozi (for a believer in One God, the word God cannot be written in the plural, therefore I use the Church Slavonic word "bozi"). But what will happen to those who supposedly believe in Allah or the One God, but distort the texts of God's word, there is no prophecy in the Apocalypse. The only thing that can help here is the decoding of the word "Armageddon" - Armagh = Army - a place of gathering of troops or battle. Gedon is distorted from Gideon, that is, the gathering place of Gideon's troops or the place of battle with pagan troops. Then the Apocalypse is limited to the territory of Israel or Palestine. He who has ears, let him hear! Only the word of God: ... that anyone who changes or refutes the word of the prophet Issa will be subject to death. If this quote from the Koran is not accurate, then let the Dagestani correct me, since I know the Koran poorly. Only this word from the Koran can show us how they deal with those who defame the word of Allah and the One God. (This is already a stone in our garden, which was trampled by the "mad queens").
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 7 November 2013 21: 07
          +2
          Quote: shasherin_pavel
          If this quote from the Qur'an is not accurate, then let the Dagestan correct me, since I don’t know the Qur'an

          - Yes, I myself am not particularly strong. But a true connoisseur of the Qur'an will never tell you what it is ..))
          Quote: shasherin_pavel
          that anyone who changes or refutes the word of the prophet Issa will be subject to death

          - one thing is clear - when the prophet Jesus (a.s.) descends, humanity will definitely be divided into two parts: those who are for the Light, and those who are for Darkness. Neutral, as before the advent of Jesus (a.s.), will not remain.
          1. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 7 November 2013 21: 40
            +3
            -so everything will become clear and obvious to normal humanity that they will immediately take the side of the world. And the finished scumbags of mankind will take the side of Antichrist.
            1. Warrawar
              Warrawar 7 November 2013 22: 41
              0
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              Here are such ... modest prophecies in our country.

              The prophecies are not with "you." You have no prophecies at all, due to the fact that everything that you described was rewritten by the "prophet" from the "Revelation of John the Theologian" (Apocalypse). And rewritten almost word for word.
              Read enlighten:
              http://www.magister.msk.ru/relig/bible/rusbib77.htm

              And less pathos, about "saving the world from the Antichrist" .... you are our saviors.
              1. DAGESTAN333
                DAGESTAN333 7 November 2013 23: 38
                +1
                Well, I don’t know how about pathos ... but if the Revelations of John the Theologian say that Muslims will be the flagship in the fight against the Antichrist, then this resonates with our vision of the situation. The Torah, the Bible, the Koran, in its original form, all this, from the Lord of the Worlds.
                And what does your mean - “you have no prophecies”? .. All the prophecies of the early prophets that we have recognized are for us the same truth as what our Prophet prophesied.
                everything that you described was rewritten by the "prophet"
                - aah .. I understand, you decided to stupidly insult our Prophet ... Time will put everything in its place.
                1. Warrawar
                  Warrawar 8 November 2013 00: 37
                  +2
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  - aah .. I understand, you decided to stupidly insult our Prophet ... Time will put everything in its place.

                  Time has already put everything in its place. Muhammad's "prophecies" were made "retroactively", with a delay of over 600 years. Most of these prophecies almost 1 in 1 repeat what is written in the New Testament, it is easy to verify this simply by reading it. Speaking in detail about the "last judgment" and the end of the world, there is generally striking similarity, right down to the names of the Archangels.
                  1. DAGESTAN333
                    DAGESTAN333 8 November 2013 09: 15
                    0
                    And what do you want one God, to his different Prophets, to give contradictory revelations to the account of the end of the Universe?
                    The fact that Muhammad (pbuh) is a Prophet from God, you may not believe (at the Judgment Day, blame only yourself), somehow I will especially convince you, I will not, but! you better leave your insults to yourself. I respect other religions and expressed only our vision of the situation.
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      4. de_monSher
        de_monSher 18 November 2013 17: 14
        0
        Hello. So are you a Shiite? = Simply, the question is - without any political background there. It became curious when you remembered Mahdi = ...
    2. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 7 November 2013 19: 45
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      .Islamic radicalism has already spread throughout Russia .. And it’s too late to adopt laws.

      I think it’s never too late to adopt laws, let alone implement them. This should be done by the state, headed by the government.
  10. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 7 November 2013 18: 21
    +2
    The muftis hint officials at the riots and use liberal legislation, but the big question is: who will preach at what services?

    It’s time for the authorities to do something .. It’s reassuring that Russia is no longer quoted as a multinational country .. Islamic radicalism has spread throughout Russia .. And it’s too late to adopt laws ..! It’s a pity that there is no Cossacks like under the Russian Empire .. (it was easier then) .. We need to arm ourselves (I’ve read it more than once on Muslim sites .. everyone is waiting for a signal ..) and no nuclear weapons and tank destroyers will help us from the general massacre .. This the option is quite real .. Just look at how they look at you ... It's time to act!
    1. amp
      amp 7 November 2013 19: 05
      0
      (read more than once on Muslim sites .. everyone is waiting for a signal ..)

      And I read that soon Islam will be the only religion on Earth.

      It's me that you don’t have to believe everything that they write about themselves.
      1. MVS
        MVS 7 November 2013 19: 52
        +3
        Quote: amp
        And I read that soon Islam will be the only religion on Earth.

        Will the Chinese convert to Islam? How do you imagine that?
  11. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 7 November 2013 18: 34
    +1
    Full!
    A set of sentences, unrelated quotes, questions in which the author evades the answer ..
    Who is this opus for?
  12. andrei332809
    andrei332809 7 November 2013 18: 35
    +6
    Who knows the Koran? Correct, if not right.
    Islamists shout: "kill the unbeliever", but in the Koran, it seems, like this: "kill the unbeliever in yourself." is the difference felt?
    1. Thirteenth
      Thirteenth 7 November 2013 18: 39
      +3
      Disagreement over “Basic Jihad”
      The Prophet is said to have called inner jihad "the main jihad."
      Upon returning from the battle, the Prophet said: "We have finished the lesser jihad, it is time to begin the greater." He explained to his followers that the fight against an external enemy is less jihad, and the fight against oneself is the main jihad.
      This quote is considered by some scientists to be unreliable. They consider using jihad as a war more important. Inner jihad
      The phrase "inner jihad" means the zeal of a believer in an attempt to live his life in accordance with the laws of the Muslim faith.
      Muslims make great efforts to live in accordance with the instructions of Allah; following the laws of faith, devoting himself to Allah, doing everything possible to help others.
      For most, living the laws of God is pretty much a struggle. God has set high standards, and believers must struggle with their selfish desires in order to live according to these requirements. Disagreement over “Basic Jihad”
      The Prophet is said to have called inner jihad "the main jihad."
      Upon returning from the battle, the Prophet said: "We have finished the lesser jihad, it is time to begin the greater." He explained to his followers that the fight against an external enemy is less jihad, and the fight against oneself is the main jihad.
      This quote is considered by some scientists to be unreliable. They consider using jihad as a war more important. Holy war
      When Muslims, their faith or lands are attacked, Islam orders the believer to wage war in their defense. However, Muslim laws (Sharia) have very strict rules regarding the conduct of such a war.
      Recently, the most common meaning of jihad has become "holy war." On this occasion, there is a long tradition of understanding jihad as a military struggle for the good of Islam.
      What justifies jihad?
      There are several reasons, but the Qur'an clearly states that self-defense is always the root cause.
      Acceptable causes of military jihad:
      • Self-defense.
      • Strengthening Islam.
      • Protection of Muslim freedom and religion.
      • Protecting Muslims from oppression, including the overthrow of a tyrannical ruler.
      • Punishment of an enemy who violated a peace treaty.
      • Fighting injustice.
      1. UmaR
        UmaR 7 November 2013 23: 07
        0
        Thirteenth

        I have heard several times in my life that Jews from ancient times have been trying to change the Qur'an, that is, some pages are written there, I don’t really know if I hope they won’t succeed (or have already succeeded) crying .
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 7 November 2013 18: 44
      +1
      There should be no loophole in the faith for radical fanatics of all stripes.
      Unfortunately, some adventurers use the Qur'an bible torah for their own selfish purposes — taking contexts from scripture and interpreting as they please.
      By investing faith in the god of Allah in the fragile souls of young people, they at the same time invest their selfish intentions on subordinating their will to their evil deeds — such is the reality.
      In SYRIA we see figuratively we can say the battle between the devil and God, who will win so far is hard to say.
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 7 November 2013 18: 53
      +8
      Quote: andrei332809
      Islamists shout: "kill the unbeliever", but in the Koran, it seems like this: "kill the unbeliever in yourself"

      To begin with, Muhammad's "infidels" are not Christians. He calls Christians Christians, Jews - Jews, and the prophet called at that time his fellow tribesmen who did not believe or for some reason renounced the faith. In those years, a few Muslims fought with their fellow pagans (infidels), but not with Christians or Jews. That is, this is not about us, at least with Muhammad, but later interpreters of Islam could have taken liberties by calling all non-Muslims infidels
      1. Guun
        Guun 7 November 2013 19: 16
        14
        You would know how many infidels are among Muslims. Because of them, sex jihad appears, cutting heads off to the camera, explosions and a lot of a lot of bad things. Because of these scumbags, many do not see the TRUE Muslims and are equal to us with these jackals. God give you health and all the best that I wish myself. Understand we are fighting with them, in Kazakhstan we are destroying - hundreds will be sent to prison in a couple of years.
        1. alone
          alone 7 November 2013 19: 39
          16
          a good Wahhabi is a dead Wahhabi!
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 8 November 2013 04: 00
            0
            Quote: lonely
            a good Wahhabi is a dead Wahhabi!
            You plus the expression of my full consent. But how to determine if a particular individual Muslim is Wahhabi or moderate? Where is the clear definition?
            1. FREGATENKAPITAN
              FREGATENKAPITAN 8 November 2013 14: 23
              0
              Very easy to distinguish .... Wahhabi with AK-47 and explosives in Syria, the Caucasus, etc., moderate with a hoe in the field ....
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        2. their
          their 7 November 2013 23: 26
          0
          We will have to fight this evil spirits, this is the new Hitler - collective, and the Anglo-Saxon Goebbels are brainwashing them
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 8 November 2013 04: 06
            +1
            Quote: sus
            Anglo-Saxon Goebbels brainwashed them
            No, their brains are washed either by Arabs or Persians (depending on the direction of Islam)
      2. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 7 November 2013 19: 34
        +7
        Vadim, they said perfectly, I fully support!
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 7 November 2013 20: 02
          +7
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          Vadim, they said perfectly, I fully support!


          Thank. So it is in the Gospel, where is it written about the need for crusades? However, they were also against Christians. A believer needs peace, Faith without peace is passion. And what passions are known
  13. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 7 November 2013 18: 40
    +7
    The brave woman. It brings more benefits to the state in the fight against terror.
    She just calls a spade a spade. If only we had such people.
    1. Guun
      Guun 7 November 2013 19: 21
      +9
      There is a hunt for such people, a clever Muslim for radicals is a SPECIAL VICTIM to be killed - those who do not share their views are wrong, they just like that make a decision that is forbidden in Islam. They interpret the Holy Scriptures as they want and look for any loopholes for their crimes. Radicals need to be destroyed.
      1. e3tozy
        e3tozy 7 November 2013 22: 27
        0
        What is most terrible, fulfilling their base, disgusting whims, they hide behind God. Their god is Satan and their kingdom is hell. There they are dear.
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  14. Ihrek
    Ihrek 7 November 2013 18: 43
    14
    That's right brother. KORAN killing one person
    Quote: andrei332809
    Who knows the Koran? Correct, if not right.
    Islamists shout: "kill the unbeliever", but in the Koran, it seems, like this: "kill the unbeliever in yourself." is the difference felt?

    That's right brother. The murder of one person is equivalent to the murder of all mankind, it is considered so great a sin. You can kill only to protect the honor of a person or on the battlefield. And there is nothing innocent people, especially children.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 7 November 2013 18: 49
      +4
      Quote: Jamal
      That's right brother.

      thank you hi
  15. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 7 November 2013 18: 45
    0
    Here is the first lie.
    Islamism is a non-negotiable ideology, it is fundamentally adapted for war.

    ISLAMISM
    the religious teachings of Mohammed, which arose in 622 but R.H. and set forth in the Qur'an. It is a mixture of Christianity, Judaism and paganism; accepts one God, future life; prescribes abstinence in food, prayer, good deeds, and especially assistance to the poor; prohibits the use of wine and pork.
    Dictionary of foreign words included in the Russian language.- Pavlenkov F., 1907.
    Islamism is a non-negotiable ideology, it is fundamentally adapted for war.

    The author on 282 can safely be attracted for such statements.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 8 November 2013 11: 00
      +1
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      Here is the first lie.

      You have a problem in understanding the terms)). Girl distinguishes between Islam
      Quote: Ivan Tarasov
      religious teaching of Mohammed
      and Islamism
      Quote: Islamism is a non-negotiable ideology [/ quote

      , and you allow yourself to not understand this)).
  16. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 7 November 2013 18: 51
    +2
    Again a lie.
    Islam, which we offer, I, a Muslim, too, I fear. This is not the religion of my ancestors, neither the Prophet, nor the great-grandfathers, nor the heroes of the Caucasian War, nor Imam Shamil, bequeathed me to live like this. Islamism is a breeding ground for the growth of both Islamophobia and Russophobia.

    If this is not Islam, then we must say so - pseudo-Islam.
    And again kindling;
    Islamism is a breeding ground for the growth of both Islamophobia and Russophobia

    ISLAMISM
    the religious teachings of Mohammed, which arose in 622 but R.H. and set forth in the Qur'an. It is a mixture of Christianity, Judaism and paganism; accepts one God, future life; prescribes abstinence in food, prayer, good deeds, and especially assistance to the poor; prohibits the use of wine and pork.
    Dictionary of foreign words included in the Russian language.- Pavlenkov F., 1907.

    What kind of swotting is this?
  17. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 7 November 2013 18: 52
    +2
    Quote: andrei332809
    Who knows the Koran? Correct, if not right.
    Islamists shout: "kill the unbeliever", but in the Koran, it seems, like this: "kill the unbeliever in yourself." is the difference felt?

    Well, for example:
    2: 191 Kill [unbelievers], wherever you meet them, expel them from the places from which they expelled you, for unbelief is worse for them than death at your fingertips. And do not fight them at the Forbidden Mosque until they fight with you in it. If they fight [at the Forbidden Mosque], then kill them. Such is the reward of the unfaithful!
    (- disagreement with Islam is declared an occasion for the killing of those who disagree. at the same time, the murder of non-Muslims is declared a good deed.)
    I asked on the forums .. yes it’s from the Koran but faith and blah blah blah .. and evaded the answer ..! We have a murder is a great sin (of anyone) Only if you are fighting for your country in an open battle .. and it does not matter with whom.
    1. alone
      alone 7 November 2013 19: 41
      +4
      Quote: MIKHAN
      We have a murder is a great sin (of anyone) Only if you are fighting for your country in an open battle .. and it does not matter with whom.


      and we have the same thing!
  18. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 7 November 2013 18: 56
    +3
    Quote: Stinger
    It is time to create a structure to combat Wahhabism similar to SMERSH. Otherwise it will be too late.

    In extreme cases, this can be done, but a number of necessary documents can be adopted that expand the powers of some structures and at the same time make radical Islam illegal. And in this and in this case, the methods of combating the Islamists should be extremely harsh, while not ceremony with their accomplices, sympathizers, providing any help or support.
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  20. Grbear
    Grbear 7 November 2013 18: 59
    +2
    Finally, an article appeared with a clear statement of the foundations of the problem of Islamism. Not a fuss with calls: crush, etc.

    The problem grew into a real force that its creators recognized. Russia still has a little time to pass laws, and, without pauses, turn on the power machine. In our case, one cannot look back at "liberal" values.

    Islamism is an enemy that cannot be negotiated. There will be no prisoners in this war.
  21. Sergey47
    Sergey47 7 November 2013 19: 00
    +3
    If you drop masks and call a spade a spade, then all this must be burned with a hot iron. We are urging them to discuss something there, but they will not listen to us and will not agree on anything. It is still not too late to stop it as hard as possible.
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  23. individual
    individual 7 November 2013 19: 03
    +5
    Political Correctness and Tolerance this is collective cowardice pampered elite, which will lead to the death of civilization.
    Islam is already becoming political and is creating a new "REICH" under the green-black banner of Islam.
    There is an ideological seizure of legislative, executive, judicial, power and souls of youth.
    This must be understood and punished on all fronts imposed on us by VOYNY.
  24. Kizhich
    Kizhich 7 November 2013 19: 04
    +4
    Good evening everyone! For me, so in our country there is no ministry of propaganda, in a good sense of this! And to be completely honest, the idea, goal, state. politics, etc. As you wish, call it that! We should not go to us, but we must bring peace! The well-forgotten old, not only the ideas of communism, but good and universal values! But this requires a coordinated policy - the people who need to do this, and not eat up the budget! But for me this is not, repression and the ban will lead to nothing! It is necessary to fight for brains and brains not in your own country, but outside it !!!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 7 November 2013 19: 18
      +2
      Quote: Kizhich
      For me, so in our country there is no ministry of propaganda, in a good sense of this!


      Sorry so sorry. Good ministry of propaganda with good Goebbels smile +
      1. Kizhich
        Kizhich 7 November 2013 19: 27
        0
        Why do you reject? After all, you can carry the same "correct" ideas of Islam to the Middle East and you can train emissaries ??? Or am I wrong ???
      2. Kizhich
        Kizhich 7 November 2013 19: 31
        0
        By the way, half of the world was told about communism, and what do you think we can't? Only the will must be carried out of the country, far away, and there are a dime a dozen of "crusaders"!
  25. marshes
    marshes 7 November 2013 19: 10
    +3
    Let's look a little.
    Wahhabism is one of the currents of Islam, professed mainly by the Saudis. When did it appear? And who supported it, the British, to fight the Ottoman Empire. And how does it turn out that the Turks are mainly Hanafis and then the Arabs, with "exceptionalism."
    Salafists are a kind of "internationalists and socialists", essence-like: Proletarian of all countries unite. The same "Trotskyists", a little left-wing ESSR-What kind of fascism there is.
    Not a fig was in Patrice Lumumba, all sorts of thugs to teach that would "World revolution" arranged.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 8 November 2013 11: 39
      0
      Quote: marshes
      Wahhabism is one of the movements of Islam, mainly practiced by the Saudis. When did it appear? And who supported it, the British, in order to fight the Ottoman Empire.

      Nifiga se, let's figure it out!))
      http://www.x-libri.ru/elib/lsshl001/00000126.htm
      Part of the truth available to us here, for example, is written)).
  26. kafa
    kafa 7 November 2013 19: 15
    +2
    how do you, dear forum participants, think Stalin's deportations are based solely on the personal sympathies of the leader of all peoples ?!
    I talked with people who survived the occupation in Crimea. and I will not retell to you. even SS Sonderkommandy of such atrocities as Crimean Tatar volunteer battalions ....
    1. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 7 November 2013 20: 37
      +3
      Western Ukrainians in Belarus (Khatyn), 10 Balts in Pskov killed 000 people. Romanians slaughtered the wounded in the Voronezh hospital. But where there were no "Untermenschs" as punishers and the Germans themselves committed atrocities no worse than these thugs. Only the point is not in the nationality of the punishers, but in the fact that every nation has its own beastmen, as well as renegades perverting the Word of God, no matter how it is called: the Koran or the Bible.
  27. kafa
    kafa 7 November 2013 19: 16
    0
    how do you, dear forum participants, think Stalin's deportations are based solely on the personal sympathies of the leader of all peoples ?!
    I talked with people who survived the occupation in Crimea. and I will not retell to you. even the Sonderkommandy SS did not commit such atrocities as Crimean Tatar volunteer battalions ....
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 7 November 2013 19: 33
      +2
      Dzhugashvili (Stalin) was a Caucasian and he knew better than us what to do with his countrymen .. and not only ... The same Kadyrov brutally suppresses any disagreement in his khanate. For the time being, only think about it. Think, but the main thing is not flogging fever .. (which is expected of us ..)
    2. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 7 November 2013 20: 54
      +3
      Amet Khan Sultan. Born in Crimea, in Alupka, his father is a Dagestan, his mother is a Tatar. 603 sorties, 49 wins (19 in the group) in 130 battles. After the war, Lieutenant Colonel test pilot crashed on February 1, 1971, by the GSS (twice - on August 21, 1943 and on June 29, 1945, OL - three times, OKZn - five times, orr. Alexander Nevsky, 1st class military commander, Military Cross (France).
      Sultan -Galiev Art. leith. 240 b.v. 8 wins. It’s only for the sake of two called and how many there were more ..
  28. Kizhich
    Kizhich 7 November 2013 19: 18
    0
    I could not resist, in continuation ... Look at the "Russian march", who is in charge of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the Russian Orthodox Church, etc. But this is not their functionality in the literal sense! Since ancient times, there have been crusades, in our time, let it be exaggerated, but "foreign legion", I certainly take very superficially, but this can and should be done! I was just very struck by the article about Americans, concerning the Middle East, and we have a bunch of institutions ... but what's the point?
  29. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 7 November 2013 19: 19
    +1
    Read their forums (even the most peaceful and tolerant ..) where it smells of blood and hatred .. And most importantly, their mullahs are silent, why do not they appear in the media? .. We are talking about unity and multinationality .. We will wait for the taiga to run (and in a few years they will come to visit us to arrange bazaars ..) And so it can last until the North Pole .. Until we die out .. (just kidding) .. It's time to drive the Basmachs! Like in "White Sun of the Desert" Remember hope?
  30. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 7 November 2013 19: 19
    +3
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Well, for example:
    2: 191 Kill [unbelievers], wherever you meet them, expel them from the places from which they expelled you, for unbelief is worse for them than death at your fingertips. And do not fight them at the Forbidden Mosque until they fight with you in it. If they fight [at the Forbidden Mosque], then kill them. Such is the reward of the unfaithful!
    (- disagreement with Islam is declared an occasion for the killing of those who disagree. at the same time, the murder of non-Muslims is declared a good deed.)

    Many years ago, in order to make sure of this, I specially walked through the Koran and, indeed, such lines exist there. Moreover, there were lines according to which the deception of the infidel and all sorts of things were welcomed, welcoming any negative regarding the infidels. Therefore, I do not believe in the words about "peaceful" Islam.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 7 November 2013 19: 53
      +1
      There is also the Talmud .. And it is more real than the Koran .. It feels like they have united for a while .. (they have a lot in common ..) If you just look at what is going on in the world ... I don't need to give details and analogies .. Just read watch and think .. (And most importantly, as in the pioneer organization "Be Ready! Always Ready!"
      1. sleepy
        sleepy 8 November 2013 03: 56
        0
        Quote: MIKHAN
        "There is also the Talmud ... And it is more real than the Koran ..."


        The real Talmud?
        Here you can actually buy the Koran, a translation of Valeria Porokhova.
        And the Talmud is only discussed on the Internet, and it is somehow virtual.
        http://energodar.net/black/iudaizm/iudaizm.html
        http://ej.forum24.ru/?1-3-0-00000010-000-0-0-1239901850
    2. UmaR
      UmaR 8 November 2013 00: 03
      +2
      MRomanovich

      If you think that all Muslims, for example, in the North Caucasus, think and read that this should be done, then you need to be treated, I didn’t know what it was written somewhere, I live in a five thousandth village and a dozen villages in the region, but not when I in the midst of the people around me in the village, and so on, I did not see or hear that anyone was saying that they say kill the unfaithful, expel them, etc., etc. it's just ridiculous! Of course there are such people, but in percentage terms there are very few of them among the population, a scanty amount, fortunately, it is these people that are discussed in this article, so take off and I have to fight by any means I'm for !!! yes
  31. klev72
    klev72 7 November 2013 19: 28
    0
    Will Russia have a leader who directly gives the order to all branches of government to "get it in the toilets"?
    1. alone
      alone 7 November 2013 19: 46
      +5
      Quote: klev72
      Will Russia have a leader who directly gives the order to all branches of government to "get it in the toilets"?


      So what? In Chechnya, they wet it in the toilets. Sometimes it’s not bad at all. But it so happened that instead of destroying all this scum spread throughout the northern Caucasus. If it’s wet, it’s necessary to wet it so that it doesn’t exist anymore.
  32. Sergey47
    Sergey47 7 November 2013 19: 29
    +1
    If a phenomenon attracts a lot of attention, then they begin to study it closely. So, when serious researchers get down to business, it will become clear how and where Magomed and his prophecies came from. I doubt that Muslims are ready to find out the truth. Yes, they, in fact, do not need this, but the rest of the world will understand everything. Then it will be clear to everyone what actions are needed to end this evil.
  33. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 7 November 2013 19: 38
    0
    I do not see the confrontation between traditional and radical Islam.
    Sometimes they ask me: “What do Muslims profess?” I answer: "Islam." And the Islamists? I answer: "Islamism." Do you know what the difference is between them? They are not interconnected in any way. Islam is a religion. Islamism has no relation to religion. [/

    That is, in words;
    Islam is a religion. Islamism has no relation to religion
    , the author wants to say that radical Islam is Islamism in its modern interpretation, which is a substitute for the concept.
    If you look at Wikipedia, we will see;
    Islamism is a religious and political ideology and practical activity aimed at creating conditions under which any contradictions within society and the state where there is a Muslim population, as well as interstate relations with their participation, will be resolved on the basis of Sharia norms.
    Indeed, in the modern interpretation, Islamism is a practical activity.
    If Islam is a religion, then why does the author not see the contradiction between traditional and so-called “radical” Islam?
    Why does the author bring “radical” Islam to a different category of concept?
  34. Kasyanov Sergey
    Kasyanov Sergey 7 November 2013 19: 38
    +3
    I think that Islam is being "turned" into Islamism - by terrorists who are "sponsored" by the Middle East together with the United States. The USA realized that any country can be destroyed from the inside with the help of terrorists hiding behind faith. This can be seen with the naked eye: how they supply weapons to the militants, and then when they can take them with their bare hands, they bomb.
    I consider Islamism to be a great and clear threat to Russia, and we must fight this together.
    1. their
      their 7 November 2013 23: 22
      +1
      With this plague it is much more difficult to fight than with fascism. It is easier to cover sponsors and organizers of these extremist movements of Islam.
  35. MRomanovich
    MRomanovich 7 November 2013 19: 39
    +2
    Quote: klev72
    Will Russia have a leader who directly gives the order to all branches of government to "get it in the toilets"?

    Let's hope that someday it will be, but alas, not very soon. With all due respect to Putin, you should not expect this from him. It's not about his professional or other qualities, but rather that intentionally or not, but with his laudatory odes, ratings, bourgeoisie made him a little dependent on the image, and he (image) does not allow everyone to get wet in the outhouse.
  36. polkownik1
    polkownik1 7 November 2013 19: 53
    +1
    Clever woman! It is a pity that VVP and DAM do not "stoop" to read such materials. Although, even if they read it, they would not do anything real. Alas ...
  37. JUDAH
    JUDAH 7 November 2013 20: 07
    -3
    All these conversations that there are different Muslims are just earplugs. Here's how I argue:
    1) Mohamed pedophile and child molester (slept with a child of 9 years old (Aisha)). Whether a normal person can do this is by itself not. Conclusion: Mohamed is the servant of Satan.

    General conclusion: Religion humility (Islam) is the worship of Satan. What to expect from people worshiping Satan is the answer: only evil. Therefore, we must clearly understand that any Muslim is a priori the enemy of all that is bright and good. So what should be done? It’s right to stop hoping that there are some kind of mythical good Muslims, stock up on stew (pork necessarily = D), ammunition and prepares to confront evil.
  38. polkownik1
    polkownik1 7 November 2013 20: 14
    +1
    The point is not in the interpretations of the Koran. Why reduce the comments to theological abstruse? This is another conversation. The point is in the situation that develops in Russia without any connection with who and where puts stress and commas in the texts ... The author draws attention to precisely this.
  39. Babon
    Babon 7 November 2013 20: 19
    +3
    I talked with friends of Muslims, they don’t understand who the Wahhabis and Salafis are, they say 2 years ago they didn’t even know such words, it has recently become very widespread. They know about Sufis. Even familiar Muslims do not understand much what radicals need, and what can we say about non-Muslims?
  40. major071
    major071 7 November 2013 20: 42
    +9
    Islam arose in the VII century. n e. among the Arab tribes of the Arabian Peninsula. This is the youngest world religion. The followers of Islam number over 1 billion people.
    The founder of Islam Muhammad is a historical figure. He was born in 570 in the city of Mecca, which at that time was a fairly large city at the intersection of trade routes. In Mecca was a shrine revered by most pagan Arabs - the Kaaba. Muhammad's mother died when he was six years old, his father died before the birth of his son. Muhammad was brought up in the family of his grandfather, a noble family, but impoverished. In 25 years, he became the farm manager of the wealthy widow Khadija and soon married her. In 40 years, Muhammad acted as a religious preacher. He stated that God (Allah) chose him as his prophet. The ruling elite of Mecca did not like the sermon, and Muhammad had to move to the city of Yasrib by 622, later renamed Medina. 622 is considered the beginning of the Muslim calendar of the lunar calendar, and Mecca is the center of the Muslim religion.
    The Holy Book of Muslims of the Quran is a processed record of the sermons of Muhammad. During the life of Muhammad, his statements were perceived as a direct speech of Allah and were transmitted orally. Decades after the death of Muhammad, they were recorded and the Koran will be composed.
    The Sunnah, a collection of instructive stories about the life of Muhammad and Sharia, plays a large role in the creed of Muslims, a set of principles and rules of conduct that are binding on Muslims. The most serious among Muslims are usury, drunkenness, gambling and adultery.
    The Muslim building is called a mosque. Islam forbids portraying man and animals; hollow mosques are decorated only with ornaments. In Islam there is no clear division into clergy and laity. Any Muslim who knows the Qur'an, Muslim laws and the rules of worship can be a Mullah (priest).
    Of great importance in Islam is ritualism. You may not know the subtleties of faith, but you should strictly perform the main rites, the so-called five pillars of Islam:
    pronouncing the formula for the confession of faith: “There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet”;
    performance of daily fivefold prayer (prayer);
    fasting per month ramadan;
    giving alms to the poor;
    making a pilgrimage to Mecca (hajj).

    Where is it written that you need to destroy the infidels in order to go to heaven?
  41. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 7 November 2013 20: 48
    +3
    Quote: lonely
    Quote: klev72
    Will Russia have a leader who directly gives the order to all branches of government to "get it in the toilets"?


    So what? In Chechnya, they wet it in the toilets. Sometimes it’s not bad at all. But it so happened that instead of destroying all this scum spread throughout the northern Caucasus. If it’s wet, it’s necessary to wet it so that it doesn’t exist anymore.

    That is the whole problem .. what to "wet regionally" or adopt laws ... it is useless and late. (And very expensive). Look for the nest and those who benefit from it! This is the most difficult and it must be solved on a global scale! .. I think I will have to fight .. (and I hope not on my territory ..)
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  43. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 7 November 2013 21: 26
    +5
    I am Orthodox. I have no need, I don’t want and don’t see any reason to delve into a religion that is alien to me, a confused interpretation of confused people. I do not want to know about all the intricacies and orders of traditional Islam or Islamism, Wahhabis or Salafists. This is deeply indifferent to me.
    For me, at least some kind of faith is a person, if only he would be a MAN.
    But I see and understand that in Russia weaves a network of haters of Orthodoxy and other religions.
    This means that on a conditional day, all these bearded "horsemen" can begin to cut the "infidels", i.e. our children, women and men, as they slaughter their sheep.
    Remember the seizure of a school, hospital, concert hall ... Blind perverted faith turns people into non-people.

    Therefore, I want to know who, how and when will take responsibility to combat this threat?
    Maybe it's time to create a State Security Committee from Islamism?
    As you know, a cancerous tumor is best removed in the initial stages.
    And even better - prevention of this disease.
    I hope our Chief Physician picks up a scalpel. Looks like the time has come ...
  44. calocha
    calocha 7 November 2013 21: 32
    0
    A very competent and fearless woman! It is necessary for 100 years to forbid people professing Islam to occupy important posts (and not important too), all the slut needs to be extorted, otherwise we will wash our blood.
  45. Savva30
    Savva30 7 November 2013 21: 42
    +1
    Strong article. It should be hung in Putin’s office, instead of a calendar ... Where is the Federal Law on the prohibition of Wahhabism, we are doing all sorts of things ..... like olympic torch into space ...
  46. Little Russia
    Little Russia 7 November 2013 21: 43
    0
    If you dream, then first you need to raze Saudi Arabia to the ground, or at least eliminate the local individual key people who influence the spread of Wahhabism.
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 7 November 2013 22: 31
      -1
      Quote: Little Russia
      If you dream, then first you need to raze Saudi Arabia to the ground, or at least eliminate the local individual key people who influence the spread of Wahhabism.

      Well, at least not everyone is talking about "agents of the State Department."
  47. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 7 November 2013 22: 17
    0
    As one of the greats said: "Enlightenment and education are the enemy of any religion!" Who can name any good deed done by a religious militant fanatic? I can't, for example. But blood on their hands has accumulated over the centuries for a couple of seas ...

    They killed and will continue to kill. Not ourselves and each other, but us. On our land. Persuasion and appeals are useless. For them - this is a sign of weakness and they only become impudent.
    How is it customary to deal with an infection, an epidemic? One of the most effective "recipes" was invented in 1942, together with the famous Order No. 227, when a mortal threat loomed over our Fatherland. An article-slogan of the writer Ilya Ehrenburg was published in the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper on July 24, 1942:
    : ... We understood: Germans are not people. Henceforth, the word "German" is the most terrible curse for us. Henceforth, the word "German" unloads the gun. Let's not talk. Let's not be indignant. We will kill. If you haven't killed at least one German in a day. your day is gone. If you think that your neighbor will kill a German for you, you do not understand the threat. If you don't kill the German, the German will kill you. He will take yours and torture them in his accursed Germany. If you cannot kill a German with a bullet, kill a German with a bayonet. If there is a calm in your area, if you are waiting for a fight, kill the German before the fight. If you leave a German to live, the German will hang the Russian man and disgrace the Russian woman. If you killed one German, kill another - there is nothing more fun for us than German corpses. Don't count the days. Don't count the miles. Count one thing: the Germans you killed. Kill the German! the old mother asks. Kill the German! - this is a child praying for you. Kill the German! - this is the native land screaming. Don't miss. Do not miss. Kill! "
    Or could it be otherwise? Can. To do this, you do not need to go with your Charter to a foreign monastery ... No.
  48. Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 7 November 2013 22: 17
    0
    As one of the greats said: "Enlightenment and education are the enemy of any religion!" Who can name any good deed done by a religious militant fanatic? I can't, for example. But blood on their hands has accumulated over the centuries for a couple of seas ...
    They killed and will continue to kill. Not ourselves and each other, but us. On our land. Persuasion and appeals are useless. For them - this is a sign of weakness and they only become impudent.
    How is it customary to deal with an infection, an epidemic? One of the most effective "recipes" was invented in 1942, together with the famous Order No. 227, when a mortal threat loomed over our Fatherland. An article-slogan of the writer Ilya Ehrenburg was published in the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper on July 24, 1942:
    : ... We understood: Germans are not people. Henceforth, the word "German" is the most terrible curse for us. Henceforth, the word "German" unloads the gun. Let's not talk. Let's not be indignant. We will kill. If you haven't killed at least one German in a day. your day is gone. If you think that your neighbor will kill a German for you, you do not understand the threat. If you don't kill the German, the German will kill you. He will take yours and torture them in his accursed Germany. If you cannot kill a German with a bullet, kill a German with a bayonet. If there is a calm in your area, if you are waiting for a fight, kill the German before the fight. If you leave a German to live, the German will hang the Russian man and disgrace the Russian woman. If you killed one German, kill another - there is nothing more fun for us than German corpses. Don't count the days. Don't count the miles. Count one thing: the Germans you killed. Kill the German! the old mother asks. Kill the German! - this is a child praying for you. Kill the German! - this is the native land screaming. Don't miss. Do not miss. Kill! "
    Or could it be otherwise? Can. To do this, you do not need to go with your Charter to a foreign monastery ... No.
    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 7 November 2013 23: 25
      +3
      So you are calling on us Muslims to relate to the attitude of the Germans in '42, and in the meantime you have put an avatar depicting the Dagestan hero of Russia Abdul Khakim Ismailov, my fellow countryman. Unfortunately, my grandfather didn’t live long after the war, numerous wounds received in the war affected. So - the picture you then for what x. set if you do not respect his religion so? This man forgave the whole war and was the first to erect the banner of victory on the Reichstag, among other things, for you and other members of the forum. Well, if you are not a German, of course.
      1. Jogan-xnumx
        Jogan-xnumx 8 November 2013 18: 16
        -1
        Quote: Jamal
        So you call on us Muslims to relate how they treated the Germans ...

        And you, my dear man, can you read? Where is the word "Muslim" or "Islam" written in my commentary? If I spoke about militant religious fanatics, of which there have been many different faiths in history, this does not mean that I spoke about Muslims in particular.
        Do you explain the difference between a believer and a religious fanatic, or do you get your own mind?
        Quote: Jamal
        ... put an avatar with a picture of a Dagestan ...

        If you see a Dagestan from the avatar, this is YOUR misunderstanding! I can see the Red Army fighter from the avatar, hoisting the Red Victory Banner over the defeated Reichstag. For this victory, people of ALL nationalities of the USSR and not only fought to death. In the place of your fellow countryman there could be a fighter of another nationality. So yours and his nationality are not your merits.
        Quote: Jamal
        ... then you avatar for what x. set if you do not respect his religion so?

        What kind of x. do I have to respect his religion, like any other? Read the beginning of my comment and reflect on it. Also, for sure, I can tell you that you do not respect the Navy, once I squeezed a plane into my avatar. If you want to pray, pray, if you want to believe, believe. Do not want - do not. Who's stopping you? Just turn your brains on at least sometimes and think before you convict others of something.
        And if any trash creeps into my house, it does not matter who is a Muslim fanatic, a Christian fanatic, a nationalist fanatic or a fanatic of Sobchachki’s cowards, and he will kill me because I do not share his views, I myself will kill them without a twinge of conscience. However, I think you will do that too. So do not bother with your nationality and religion. This does not save you from having to consult with your head.
        Quote: Jamal
        This man forgave the whole war and was the first to erect the banner of victory on the Reichstag, among other things, for you and other members of the forum.

        I can say the same thing. One of my grandfather died near Pillau in the 45th as a tank company commander, the second grandfather went to the Black Sea Fleet all the war, including the defense of Sevastopol and the assault of Sapun-mountain, was buried in 1970 in the military cemetery of Sevastopol. Who did they fight for? Or just your countrymen fought for you and me?
  49. their
    their 7 November 2013 23: 01
    +2
    Wahhabism is similar not only to fascism but also to Zionism. The idea is the same for everyone and the owners are the same. And they all have nothing to do with Islam, the Germans, the Jews - these are their victims
  50. hrych
    hrych 7 November 2013 23: 15
    +6
    In fact, the general jihad has already failed. The key Arab country - Egypt, has found the strength to drive this scum under the plinth, Syria is fighting with great success and has already ground the "smelly passionaries". In Russia, by the way, if they have not forgotten the war was and they were killed there. China will cope with the Wahhabis, I have no doubts. In general, why Heydar Jemal is still at large is quite surprising, and so the Islamists are threatened by a universal star.
    1. their
      their 7 November 2013 23: 19
      +3
      Heydar Dzhemal is an ordinary pro-Russian Muslim; it has nothing to do with these extremists.
      1. Yugra
        Yugra 7 November 2013 23: 32
        0
        sus, you are mistaken. This jam is one of the radicals in our country. Accordingly, the conversation with him should be short-on-zone or drain into the Wahhabi forehead.
        1. their
          their 8 November 2013 00: 17
          +2
          Cemal, of course, sometimes carries a blizzard and goes too far (maybe because of a past illness - schizophrenia), but in general he understands what separatism and Islamic extremism are. He has nothing to do with him, otherwise he would have been sitting a long time ago. He hates the Zionists and Israel, and they have long ranked him as extremists because of this.
        2. their
          their 8 November 2013 00: 24
          -3
          How is the same Maxim Shevchenko different from him? As two brothers blow the same pipe, only that half is Azerbaijani, the second half Jewish.
      2. Yugra
        Yugra 7 November 2013 23: 32
        -2
        sus, you are mistaken. This jam is one of the radicals in our country. Accordingly, the conversation with him should be short-on-zone or drain into the Wahhabi forehead.