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Dagger of Ferburn-Sykes

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Special services agents use not only pistols with a silencer. Often, especially during the Second World War, cold weapon. Most probably, the famous dagger of the special forces of the Second World War - the combat dagger of Ferburn-Sykes.

William Ferburn and Erik Sykes developed this dagger for the needs of the commando units based on the so-called “Shanghai fighting knives” in 1940 year. Later, two more modifications appeared, the last in 1942.

Dagger of Ferburn-Sykes
Dagger of Ferburn-Sykes first modification


The first modification of the dagger had a brass handle with diamond-shaped notches. Garda was S-shaped. The blade, having a ricasso, was forged by hand, which makes it almost impossible to find two knives with identical blades. There were few such knives, fewer than 7 thousands.

The length of the dagger of the first sample was about 29-31 centimeters, with the length of the blade 16-17.5 centimeters. Weapon weights ranged from 230 to 270 grams.

Dagger of Ferburn-Sykes second modification


The second modification also had a forged blade, but without ricasso. In addition, the guard was straight, not S-shaped. There were nickel-plated models of this knife, but there were also black ones, partially or completely blued. By the end of the Second World War, knives, which were initially nickel-plated, also began to be crowned.

The length of the second sample dagger was about 28.5-30.6 centimeters, with the length of the blade 16-17.7 centimeters. The weight of the weapon became lighter and ranged from 220 to 240 grams.

Dagger of Ferburn-Sykes of the third modification


The dagger of the Ferburn-Sykes third modification began to produce at the end of 1942 of the year. The blade was not forged manually, it became more standardized. Until the end of World War II, 200 000 of such knives were manufactured. The handle no longer has diamond-shaped cuts, but 27 rings have appeared, which improve the dagger's ergonomics. True, experts say the deterioration of ergonomics of the third modification compared with the first two.

Daggers of Ferburn-Sykes of the third modification


The garda of the third modification of the dagger is straight, often with a stamp on it, just like on the blade itself. Despite the fact that the dagger was not forged manually, the difference in the sizes of different instances remained. Probably the reason for this is that the daggers were made in different factories.

The length of the dagger third modification 29.1-30.1 centimeter, blade length 17.1-17.8 centimeter. The weight of the dagger is from 250 to 260 grams.

From left to right: first modification, second, second, third


There are other variations of the Ferburn-Sykes knife. One of the best was produced at the end of 1942 by Rogers and was called "Beaded & Ringed". The model owes this name to its handle, made of brass with a characteristic pattern that makes it easier to hold the knife.

Dagger Ferburn-Sykes modification "Beaded & Ringed"


Even less often knives with wooden handles. There is an assumption that such weapons were made for the needs of units that fought in a hot climate, where the hand was sweating quickly. In fact, these knives have little in common with the classic models of Ferburn-Sykes, except that the shape of the blade.

Dagger of Ferburn-Sykes with a wooden handle


For the overwhelming number of models of this weapon, the sheath was made extremely simple, leather. For the first modification, a buttonhole was used to fix the weapon; later, a rubber loop came to replace it. Sometimes there were sheaths for paratroopers that were attached to the thigh or shoulder.

Ferburn-Sykes dagger for paratroopers


Also, it was very rare to see a rather strangely shaped metal sheath with leather, most likely used by the CIA and other similar structures.

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  1. makarov
    makarov 7 November 2013 09: 32
    +2
    in appearance and description, the thing is impressive, but everything is known in comparison, but there is no such information
  2. 505506
    505506 7 November 2013 09: 51
    +3
    The knife is one of the oldest types of weapons, but new items are constantly appearing. It would seem a dagger, but the special one chosen by the special forces is clearly not in stride.
  3. AK-47
    AK-47 7 November 2013 09: 58
    +5
    The weapon is all beautiful.
    These daggers are made today.
  4. AK-47
    AK-47 7 November 2013 10: 04
    +5
    The Chinese ancestor of the Ferbern-Sykes dagger.
  5. _KM_
    _KM_ 7 November 2013 10: 29
    +4
    It would be interesting not only the description, but also the experience of combat use and comparison with analogues.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 7 November 2013 13: 36
      14
      It should start apparently with the fact that this thing is not a knife. This is a dagger, just English dulls the difference. Accordingly, the technique of its combat use is completely analogous to the combat use of sharpening. With his help, you can’t conduct a knife fight, it’s impossible to beat back, block anything. It’s even difficult for them to cut the sausage, that is, as an element of soldier’s equipment, it’s practically a piece of meaningless iron. It can be effectively applied to a punch strike and nothing more. Moreover, the shape of the blade, taken, of course, from no Shanghai KNIVES but from a completely European misericordia, causes low blood loss from the wound. Miserikordii killed the lying knight. This was done slowly, the blade plunged into the holes of the visor, that is, through the eye to the brain. Either in the eye and to the posterior wall of the skull, or very precisely in the heart, and it should be borne in mind that with a broken needle-shaped heart tip, the enemy is still able to kill you in turn within a few seconds. In the kidney yet, with the same problems ... You won’t even get angry with this needle of the enemy, I’m not talking about damage.
      In a word, the technique of knife fighting, this fraudster was trained except in the London opiekurilnoy at the local breakdown of Sun-vysun. The dagger was drawn by an artist who visited the British Museum a couple of times. A lousy bullshit, but pretty, just right to suck the little horses ...
      P.S. Ricasso just happened to be on misericordia because its length was supposed to be considerable, the knights had a bit of brains, just pierce it, hit it again, but it was impossible to increase the thickness - it would get stuck in the gap. Then they caught sight of it ...
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 7 November 2013 15: 22
        0
        So in medieval Europe every soldier had a dagger, because It was also a cutlery, forks they imported from the east.
        If we compare it with the SS dagger, which is a cover of a hunting Swiss.
        1. Kir
          Kir 8 November 2013 03: 03
          +2
          Forgive me, of course, but the SS dagger is only a return to the historical homeland, as it was designed and manufactured for the Swiss by a master from Solingen.
          1. cth; fyn
            cth; fyn 8 November 2013 14: 27
            0
            But I didn’t know this, maybe write an article? it will be very interesting, and the city of gunsmiths with 1000 years of history is a very interesting object for writing an article.
            1. Kir
              Kir 8 November 2013 21: 39
              0
              Yes, I myself did not know for the time being, I just somehow came across a little book from a series of thematic collection and it contained this information, by the way, given that the native Swiss themselves are mainly warriors and shepherds, like most highlanders, especially at that time, nothing there is no surprise in this fact.
      2. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 7 November 2013 16: 15
        0
        English Taps the Difference

        Dagger Dagger
        Knife - a knife
        Oh yes they are so similar laughing
        causes low blood loss from a wound

        If you don’t know how to use, then yes, but if you crank up the tip and pull on yourself, then such a wound will be that wow! Like an ax.
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 7 November 2013 18: 03
          +5
          Did the criminal teach? I do not blame, everything happens in life, but beware of this science. The urks cut, they don't fight. That is, they themselves choose the time, place and combat state. If the hands "lead" - they do not rush to stick in the back, wait out, calm down, throw themselves with something ...
          In battle, the ATF is pouring from the ears, so the elite cannot control their actions so subtly. There are simply more important tasks. Therefore, if you need an army knife for battle - this is HP. A wide, durable blade leaves an equally wide wound. Moreover, there is a dropper - expansion in the area of ​​emphasis. Once stuck and pulled out as quickly as possible without a hitch. A large stream of blood and extensive internal damage with a guarantee will not allow the enemy to kill you.
          Do you have time to "play"? Read about NDK 17. Working with cutting lunges from a safe distance for you. A person can be stabbed with a sheet of paper. But it is not very wise to use this piece of paper as an army knife ...
          1. Tyumen
            Tyumen 8 November 2013 06: 28
            +2
            NDK-17 is a stupid, useless Kochergin toy. Clean divorce for knife lovers.
            A chisel wrapped in rope. Such an elephant as A. Kochergin, of course, can
            shred the bark on a tree, but to a normal person just keep this crap in his hands
            uncomfortable.
          2. cth; fyn
            cth; fyn 8 November 2013 13: 44
            0
            Did the criminal teach?

            No, I’ve trained in bayonet fighting in the army, but there’s not much difference in the knife on the machine or in the hand.
        2. egsp
          egsp 7 November 2013 19: 02
          +1
          KNIFE- LEARNING English ... wise guy
          1. cth; fyn
            cth; fyn 8 November 2013 13: 50
            0
            knife - knife
            dagger - dagger.
      3. avt
        avt 7 November 2013 17: 35
        +1
        Quote: Mikhail3
        In a word, the technique of knife fighting, this fraudster was trained except in the London opiekurilnoy at the local breakdown of Sun-vysun. The dagger was drawn by an artist who visited the British Museum a couple of times. A lousy bullshit, but pretty, just right to suck the little horses ...

        good laughing There is really nothing special to add, really - a sharpening or a stiletto raised to the rank of "true" commando accessories, like the berets and stripes like a special Tim. So, for the collection, the girls have to powder their brains that they are attached to the Order of the Knights of the Cloak and Dagger .In the household, a useless thing.
    2. loft79
      loft79 7 November 2013 14: 55
      0
      Training.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 7 November 2013 17: 48
        +5
        what
        Seriously?! Yes they are, these very "formidable commandos", seven times bigger deer than I thought! I already ... but this ... Damn, the one who taught me for such an idiotic performance on the forehead with a stick would knock to death laughing laughing laughing Holding the dagger with a direct grip, try to push it back and forth against the biomechanics of the hand ... Under the adrenaline there is about 70% chance to stick it to YOURSELF in the throat. Or did he stick his pickle shallowly and try to feed it forward, breaking the vessel? Well, donkeys, God forgive me ....
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 9 November 2013 12: 11
          0
          - Not really ... the dagger was pushed into the neck at a point below the ear, behind the lower jaw, moving from left to right, forward, cutting the throat, and if you were lucky, an artery ...
  6. Cynic
    Cynic 7 November 2013 11: 19
    +2
    It is a pity there are few articles about knives, as the predecessor of a firearm.
    Thank you.
  7. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 7 November 2013 12: 27
    +2
    Brass, I don’t know, but what if in the cold or vice versa in the heat? wasn't it easier to wrap the handle in leather?
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 7 November 2013 13: 55
      +1
      Rots. Various kinds of effective synthetic impregnations were invented later. Waxing (truly effective) is difficult for the Anglo-Saxon mind ....
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 7 November 2013 15: 15
        +1
        In the sense of rotting? I have leather berets for the 6th year in perfect order, and they are much harder than the handle. and how long is it to rewind a leather tape?
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 7 November 2013 18: 35
          +2
          Anglo-Saxons fought a lot in the jungle. There, the skin burns with fire. And you smear berets, right? But the brass handle does not need to be smeared with anything. And in battle, she will not let you down, but if the lace is dispersed in a fight ...
          However, the shape of this cool handle excludes a fight. She's really Shanghai, that's right. This is a props. In a sense, the Shanghai Opera is very fond of and has always loved performances like "I'm at my mother's helicopter." A man comes out and begins to twist interceptions. This shape, the "elongated snot" type, is ideal for rotations without a grip. True, when you try to fix the dagger in your hand, you will find that the narrow shank does not give the fingers support and the hand spontaneously unclenches. Press the little finger and see - the index finger has torn off. Everything is correct. Artists are young, inexperienced, and stage props help them.
          About "medieval warriors" ... ask what "gallant poetry" is. These same warriors carried several knives, otherwise they would not survive. Quite often also a dagger ... deservedly called a scoundrel's weapon. Since it was used exclusively for backstabbing.
          Why is not suitable for cutting blows? But how does a knife cut, you know? Ever wonder why a knife cuts at all? smile To answer this question, the teacher shows you a blade in a microscope (yes, that's how I was taught. I understand, but ... it happened in general). The knife ... saws. The blade is a microsaw that can be sharpened correctly. Each of its teeth tears off a tiny piece of the cut tissue, and this is how an incision is made. Therefore, the cutting tool at speeds that can be generated by a human hand has a distinctly crescent shape. The incision is made in a straight or circular motion, so that the largest surface area of ​​the blade of your "micro saw" passes over the tissue being cut, then the incision is deep. And the dagger is the point and that's it. It needs to be guided parallel to the tissue being cut, which is almost unrealistic in combat. And the tip itself just scratches shallowly, irritates but does not harm.
          Terminology? I was not taught by fencers. They told me that working with a long blade is nothing like working short. They showed something long ... not enough for their own generalizations, so I don’t have my opinion here. Maybe I’m wrongly calling, well, I'm sorry.
          1. Tyumen
            Tyumen 7 November 2013 23: 56
            +2
            With what a fright in parallel? The dagger pierces perpendicularly, touching everything that along the way, vessels, veins.
            What kind of lace in a fight will go? I grabbed the tops, and then you say that there is no opinion.
            Zae ... they are already network experts.
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 8 November 2013 09: 46
              +1
              The question was why a dagger should not be used for cutting, cutting. If a dagger is stuck - this is not a cutting blow, even with a fright. Did not the knife fly out of the hand due to the problem with the handle? For example, cord knitting, for example, has diverged - has it eaten sweat? And here I flew. Do you know such an exercise - to strike secant blows on a transom knitted from a rope? Then the brush hurts acutely smile Beat, beat and suddenly fyut! there’s no knife in the hand.
              And then affectionate explanations. I told you, a club, skeletons in the kin are good. Cord windings, straps, braids, and other beautiful women - figure in front of the girls. The only winder that a fighter can afford is from wire, from wire, from wire ... and the pressure between the shoulder blades increases. And I already can’t stand push-ups in my life, and with my foot on the scruff of my neck laughing
              1. cth; fyn
                cth; fyn 8 November 2013 14: 10
                0
                But what about swords? they all have a leather braided hilt, okay, but as you say when waxing and paraffin impregnation, the skin is not afraid of anything, even road chemicals, ash and other aggressive media, it’s not afraid of sweat, as far as I know during the Second World War shoe polish was, therefore, people knew about the properties of wax and paraffins.
        2. Astrey
          Astrey 8 November 2013 16: 23
          +1
          You confuse the warm with the soft. The fungus from human sweat is indestructible in practice. In berets, you wear socks, at least. And do not consciously bring the legs to the clinical fungus. And the sweat entering into the skin is decomposing just a mini-tube for the fungus. And that is sadness. I do not keep knives with a leather handle in my collection.

          And "to rewind the leather tape" - it is you, with all the politeness, stump my mind. A leather band on the sword is appropriate. For a knife, the term "leather" implies a set of leather washers. And the "tape" is capable of "frayed" surprises at the most inopportune moment. And washers are tricky for MASS production. They steal, with decent skin.
  8. Kerch
    Kerch 7 November 2013 14: 54
    0
    Accordingly, the technique of its combat use is completely analogous to the combat use of sharpening. With his help, you can’t conduct a knife fight, it’s impossible to beat back, block anything. It’s even difficult for them to cut the sausage, that is, as an element of soldier’s equipment, it’s practically a piece of meaningless iron. It can be effectively applied to a punch strike and only


    Could you explain why it (the dagger) is not suitable for cutting blows?
    (I myself understand little in knives)
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 7 November 2013 15: 17
      0
      Join.
      And it would not be bad to explain what a kick strike is. We know the stabbing, the cutting we know, the chopping we know, but the tychkovy ...
      1. Timur
        Timur 7 November 2013 18: 39
        +3
        A punch strike is the same stabbing one, but the opponent is not treated politely. type you call :)
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 8 November 2013 10: 04
          +2
          Guys ... It is with the "Toledo blade" of a beautiful sword that elegant injections are applied. Batman, in quarto, in octavo ... music for the ears. Cut with a knife - a full passage with a full blade. Sekut - short lateral sweeps, the crescent point is pressed into the cut surface, the blade is almost perpendicular to the cutting surface. And, excuse me, they are poking. Unlike a beautiful fencing thrust, as a rule, the whole body in a beautiful pose does not stretch, the fighting distances are different. The hand, the forearm ... even the shoulder is not always fully involved. There is no "beauty" in a real knife fight.
          These are filthy ghouls, dirty killers - European nobles killed so much that they had an urgent need to decorate their vile deeds. They came up with elegant terminology, in every possible way chattered the bloody murder ... They loved the dagger very much. Elegantly, understand? There is no bloody stream, the hand does not flood, the camisole does not spoil (again, practical. No European nobleman disdained not only to rob the killed, but also to tear off his clothes! Knighthood, understand ... it's one thing - a small diamond-shaped hole in front of the heart, and another - a bloody shower over the entire rag).
          The warrior does not admire murder. Leave the graceful terminology for the Urs, these are their "beauties" ...
          1. cth; fyn
            cth; fyn 8 November 2013 14: 23
            0
            as far as I know, a stabbing weapon is official and in all police crime reports and it’s a stabbing one, therefore tychkovy is slang, so I understand you?
    2. Tyumen
      Tyumen 7 November 2013 17: 03
      +1
      Due to the narrow and thick blade, the dagger has a very large sharpening angle.
      As a result, very narrow slopes, which even carts do not help.
  9. Vital 33
    Vital 33 7 November 2013 16: 31
    +2
    As far as I know (I can be wrong, who knows will correct it) this is a traditional dagger for the British special forces, in particular, it was used by SAS. Yes, and still uses it in my opinion. They generally love old designs (but reliable). Until recently, they still had the old "Browning" in service, and only recently they switched to ZIG, (if I'm not mistaken), in general, something modern ...
  10. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 7 November 2013 17: 41
    +3
    I can not agree !!! the dagger shown is rather a ritual weapon. Or a weapon for very weak people. who need to kill the victim .. in short pig. For ritual weapons, I think the CORTIC of the Navy applies! Very beautiful dagger !!! My weapon is a knife, blade length 25 ... 30 cm, width 4 ... 5 cm blade 2-sided sharpening, sting, about 5-7 cm one-sided sharpening. guard is required. Well, the hilt .... under my arm. Balancing love the classic. And the sample shown is called a special forces weapon ... ??? I think this is not true.
    1. Tyumen
      Tyumen 7 November 2013 22: 04
      +2
      A knife with a blade length 25_30cm wide 4_5, this is a specific pig. Double-sided sharpening is a dagger.
      What sting? 5_7 cm "one-sided sharpening" is called a false blade. What other "classical balancing"?
      And the sample shown was indeed a regular dagger of the English commandos during WWII.
      Look no more "Rambo", young man.
      1. Stalinets
        Stalinets 10 November 2013 21: 33
        +1
        Sorry, pig cutter. yes
  11. vkrav
    vkrav 7 November 2013 17: 46
    0
    Weight is good, but how is it with balance? How convenient is it to throw it?
    1. avt
      avt 7 November 2013 18: 32
      +2
      Quote: vkrav
      Weight is good, but how is it with balance? How convenient is it to throw it?

      request Why throw it? A thrown knife is a thrown knife. No, well, if you carry the kit with you instead of something you need, well, such as ammunition and actually firearms, then yes, you can throw it. I’ve somehow seen in the life of only one sensible master who has famously thrown everything, including heavy forks, and he didn’t advise me to do this, as well as throwing a thief from hand to hand and turning the knife with his fingers in real business, he himself is for the soul doing this.
    2. Tyumen
      Tyumen 7 November 2013 20: 07
      +2
      Forget the balancing act. You can throw anything, the feeling of turnover is perceived by the HAND.
      What is your ax balance?
  12. Massik
    Massik 7 November 2013 18: 48
    +1
    I didn’t even hear about this, but for me the most famous were the HP 40-43 and the trihedral bayonet
  13. uzer 13
    uzer 13 7 November 2013 19: 52
    +1
    This knife is intended only for murder and does not have other utilitarian functions, like most daggers, but it does not belong to ritual weapons either; rather, it is a symbol of belonging to a clan or community endowed with, say, special powers.
  14. Bosk
    Bosk 7 November 2013 20: 36
    +1
    I once had a stiletto and I must say I didn’t like it to put someone, it’s really good, but like a knife ... it’s nothing!, This is a narrowly specialized thing, but in my experience in the “field” such “narrow” things extra bells and whistles-load.
  15. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 7 November 2013 20: 42
    +3
    With his help, you can’t conduct a knife fight, it’s impossible to beat back, block anything.


    Nikolay, you surprised me. Where are you going to fencing in a REAL battle, like at a knightly tournament in the Middle Ages ??

    The real knife fight is a cruel joke, short and prosaic - two came together and waved only once, one howled and fell to the ground, the other remained on its feet, and that’s all. In the special forces, even that is not there, the victim rarely finds out who killed her and what.
  16. understudy
    understudy 7 November 2013 23: 53
    0
    Thanks to the author. My "plus". But the dagger really didn't impress. request
  17. understudy
    understudy 7 November 2013 23: 53
    0
    Thanks to the author. My "plus". But the dagger really didn't impress. request
  18. Director
    Director 8 November 2013 00: 12
    -2
    I liked the article. Weapons too. Invisible, ergonomic, probably well-balanced. The British are generally committed to tradition.
  19. Kir
    Kir 8 November 2013 03: 37
    +1
    This is all of course interesting, But can anyone explain from which fright the given sample is considered to be a hunting weapon, when the military use is clearly evident, and it seems to be from the category that fall under the UN Convention.
    With regards to the metal handles, excuse me but survival knives, but what do they look at MOD products are the same MARK V ATAK or REZER, by the way, if I remember correctly, the same well-known MARK I and MARK II legs grow one curate from this sample, and even their handle is metal with a slightly altered top.
    With regards to throwing, Tyumenets correctly said that with appropriate training you can actually throw any sharp object at all, the inhabitants of Moscow and not only they, but everyone who was interested in cold things should have heard about a club like Ratnik, because there are sickles and other things.
  20. DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 8 November 2013 16: 42
    +1
    Pigs in Russia are usually beaten with a blow to the heart, with a narrow long knife "pig-breaker", so that the heart beat after a blow for some time, so that the blood would drain into the pericardial space. Then, when cutting, the blood is scooped out for further use. Who drinks vodka, who drinks or fries or makes sausage. When slaughtering, you cannot use a wide knife, since the animal dies instantly and the blood remains in the meat, In the same way, a person, when struck with a stylet in the heart, may not die immediately and even have time to shout. The balance of a chopping strike weapon is the most important component! In order to make sure of this, ask the workers for scrap at the construction site. take him and fuck .. hit them with all your might, chopping blow on the corner of the building .... return the crowbar. thank you ... Check your whole hands or not. In case of injury, take action. The scrap has a center of gravity in the middle, i.e. 1 = 1. For a sword, for a knife, the center of gravity is 2 parts of the blade for 1 part of the handle. An example is the total length of the knife is 30 cm, the center of gravity is 20 cm from the tip of the blade. Or the sword is 90cm long, its center of gravity is 60cm from the tip of the blade. this is the classic balance. Therefore, for balance, the sword handle is usually metal, for balance with a heavy blade, and a lighter knife handle for balance with a light blade. Deviations are possible, it depends on personal preferences, but small. With another, not your, balancing, weapons can give you a lot of problems
    1. Kir
      Kir 8 November 2013 21: 56
      0
      So yes, not so, let's start with the fact that the blades are also divided into leading and driven, then do not forget that there is still thickness and technological holes both for a general reduction in weight and for a shift in the center of gravity, the same throwing ones can, and most often it is, the blade is about the length of the "handle" but the balance is shifted towards the edge, there is such a simple check the knife is placed in the area of ​​the "transition" of the blade into the handle on the index finger and if the blade outweighs the specificity of either a throwing device or a chopping device, by the way, if remember there were sabers for heavy cavalry so there was deliberately just to enhance the chopping effect there was an extension at the end of the blade, then different hardness and sharpening angles, in short a lot of nuances.
  21. saygon66
    saygon66 9 November 2013 12: 59
    0
    - On one of the English-language sites dedicated to this weapon, it is written approximately the following: "It is intended for" silent murder ", or for hand-to-hand combat, in conditions where the use of firearms is impossible ..."
    "Some critics do not understand the purpose of this weapon - it is ideal for removing sentries ..."
    - "This knife was not designed for knife fighting, it is intended for silent killing ... removing sentries ..."
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    2. saygon66
      saygon66 9 November 2013 13: 09
      +2
      - The British grandfather talks about the technique of using the device ...
      1. Kir
        Kir 9 November 2013 15: 02
        0
        And what else to demand from entichs throughout almost the entire history they have been engaged in sabotage and other things, it’s enough to remember the pirates in the service of their Majesty, what is more, they have (and maybe had) a sort of hybrid of stylet and brass knuckles before the device.
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 9 November 2013 16: 12
          0
          - Well, this thing is an American trench knife ... The ancestor of the F / S dagger was the re-sharpened bayonet of the Lee-Metford system ...
          1. saygon66
            saygon66 9 November 2013 16: 15
            0
            - Here you are, the hallmarks are clearly visible ...
            1. Kir
              Kir 9 November 2013 16: 51
              0
              There is no one about which I am hidden wearing, and when "folded" looked like a small baton with a striking part in the form of a sphere and a clip-type attachment, which played the role of brass knuckles and protection of the hand, a blade like a triangular section was hidden inside, and by "dropping" the sphere turned into a striking element of the flail (the baton is hollow and I seem to remember a metal cable in it)
              If I remember this device was described in the Appendix to the "Technology of Youth" somewhere in the 90s.
              1. saygon66
                saygon66 9 November 2013 17: 03
                0
                = Yeah ... I came across such a masterpiece of criminal technical genius ... well so it’s that ... old very much ... the end of the 19 century ... no?
                1. saygon66
                  saygon66 9 November 2013 17: 15
                  +1
                  - ABOUT! Found....
                  1. Kir
                    Kir 9 November 2013 19: 49
                    0
                    Here is something like that, only instead of a loop "clip", well, a kind of refinement. Interestingly, this is not a case of ours, if so then it is necessary to claim compensation from the islanders !!!
          2. saygon66
            saygon66 10 November 2013 12: 23
            0
            - Here it is ... If you look closely, it is clear that the blades have the same hallmarks ...
  22. unknown
    unknown 9 November 2013 19: 38
    +1
    About fencing

    In the USSR Armed Forces, many different competitions were held between representatives of different special forces

    The most elite of them is fencing with bayonet knives.
  23. rapira62
    rapira62 21 November 2013 12: 28
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    From this dagger (landing knife) a certain Dietmar Paul makes a start in his book "combat knives". Subsequently, one of the authors of this knife Fairburn makes an excellent combat knife together with Rex Applegate. I have experience in fencing - at one time I fulfilled the standard for cms in foil fencing. My opinion is the following - this is a knife for hidden use. You can't do Makhach for them - it's ridiculous to think about it. For a linear mahach, I would take a type of master tanto magnum or something like him