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"Russian Caliphate". Part of 2

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"Flashing" of Soviet Muslims


In Russia and the rest of the wreckage of the Soviet Union, the time of the "Soviet" Muslims ends, those who once wore a party membership card, consisted of a Komsomol, was a pioneer and actually remembered formal rituals only during holidays and funerals. Soviet Muslims, like other citizens of the Union, built space ships, aircraft carriers and cruisers, icebreakers, hundreds of civilian and military aircraft, nuclear power plants, received the best education in the world, became scientists and engineers, teachers and doctors, together with their Russian brothers beat the hordes Hitler and smashed the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. They built the best order in the world.

The time is coming for new Muslims, for whom they have prepared “spiritual leaders” in Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Egypt and Turkey. The effect of this omission is already obvious and very dangerous. In particular, in Tatarstan, traditional Islam is successfully pushed to the sidelines. And the mentality, clothing and marital behavior of the part of young Muslims Tatars copy the Arab mentality. For them, the center of the universe is not Kazan and Moscow, but Riyadh and Cairo. Many wealthy Tatar families already have satellite dishes that are tuned to Al-Jazeera or Al-Arabia.

Not so long ago, Talgat-hazrat Tajuddin, chairman of the Central Spiritual Board of Muslims of Russia, stopped the process of sending young people to Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other Arab countries. But it's too late, the process is running. There are already circles in Russia that can sponsor the sending of young people themselves or find sponsors abroad. Someone has personal funds for the trip. Young people now go on their own, they don’t need the consent and blessing of representatives of traditional Islam. The fact that Muslim youth in Russia falls under the influence of others is radicalized by Islamic ideologues. There is already a young growth of clergy, which has really become the bearer of the ideology of Wahhabism, Salafism. These young people sincerely believe that the traditional Islamic ideology, which was in Russia, is unacceptable for them, the traditionalists for them are the same “unfaithful”, “unclean”, as representatives of other religions. Moreover, young people from Russia, the Crimea, the republics of Central Asia are already going to fight for the “caliphate”. Some of them die, remain abroad, but many return, having the experience of fighting with the "infidels."

Of great concern is the fact that the well-known Islamist and fighter against Islamism on the "information front" Raisa Suleymanov Tatarstan prosecutor's office issued a warning "about the inadmissibility of extremist activities." As a result, the man who fought against radicals and extremists literally beat the alarm, telling fellow citizens of the terrible danger that could lead to rivers of blood in Russia, was accused of "extremism." True, prosecutor Kafil Amirov, who rendered this unjust decision, was hastily removed from this position. This is a real example of the work of the “Wahhabi holding”. This term coined the Yakup, who was murdered by Islamists in 2012. The basis of the "holding" consists of hidden Wahhabis and "Muslim brothers" in the power and law enforcement structures of Russia. And their agents of influence, such as the chairman of the Islamic Committee of Russia, Heydar Jemal, work in the information field of the Russian Federation and propagate Islamism.

The ideology of Islamism is the real and dangerous enemy of Russian civilization. Islamists think strategically. Over the past two decades and more, they have done a tremendous amount of work in the fields of ideology, economics, and military affairs. According to their thoughts, the Russians “occupied” the Volga region, the Urals, Siberia, the Caucasus, which are part of the Islamic world and should become the emirate of a single Caliphate in the future. Wahhabi cells and caches weapons they are already found not only in the North Caucasian republics, but in Central Russia, the Volga region, Tyumen, Omsk and the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District. Inside Russia, they create their own system - an “anti-system”, with which “intercultural and inter-religious dialogue” is impossible. Islamism is a non-negotiable ideology and system, it was created for war and the destruction of “infidels”, including traditional Muslims.

According to theologian Farid Salman, the process of introducing radicalism into society has several stages: “The first phase is the seizure of the cultural and educational sphere, the second is the seizure of the sphere of spiritual governance, the third is the entry into power, the fourth is the seizure of power. All three of these stages, we have already successfully passed "("Traditional Islam has lost the war for the minds of Muslim youth"). The theologian also noted that the ethno-religious composition of the country's population is changing in Russia, the composition of the population, its age, and at the same time changing its culture and views. In addition, a link between jihadists and the protest movement is possible. In addition, in Russia, the Wahhabis, Tabligans, "Muslim brothers", Hizb ut-Tahriris and others, who are ideological opponents, and on historical homelands of each other are called infidels, heretics, act practically as a united front. The principle "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" operates here.

"Russian Caliphate". Part of 2


Who is behind the "Islamic project"

The British back in the period when they were working to subjugate the regions of the Ottoman Empire, provided financial and organizational support in the formation of the Wahhabi movement and the Wahhabi kingdom. That was how Saudi Arabia was created - an artificial state made of Muslim holy lands, cities of Mecca and Medina, parts of Yemen, the territory of Hijaz, Nejd and other territories.

Britain and then the United States for decades nurtured and supported the source of infection - Saudi Arabia and other Arab monarchies. At the end of 1970, the “Islam against Communism” project appeared, later it was transformed into the “Islam against Russians” project. Western analytical centers concluded that in order to prevent the process of self-organization of the post-Soviet space (the creation of a new empire), it is necessary to launch the program of Islamization of the republics of the former USSR. In addition, with the help of Islamic radicals, they decided to reformat a number of countries in the Middle East and the Balkans, mostly former allies of the USSR. The Islamist movement met the basic requirements of controllability, ease of distribution and self-financing. Western think tanks worked together with representatives of the Arab monarchies.

The wreckage of the USSR, the Balkans and the countries of the Middle East, besides the governing core of the Arab monarchies, were awaiting fragmentation, the creation of pseudo-autonomous Islamic states that would serve the interests of the West. This process was to be accompanied by a series of violent local wars, conflicts, uprisings, a wave of terror, purges on religious and ethnic grounds. All this we saw on the ruins of Yugoslavia, and in recent years during the "Arab spring". Russia was hit too. She - the main prize of the West. Both Chechen wars, a series of terrorist attacks throughout Russia, the growing influence of the Islamists are all the consequences of this program. In the morally defeated, post-Soviet Russia, losing its civilizational roots, where NEP-2 won, with its slogan “Enrich yourself!”, This global Islamic project found fertile ground.

However, by releasing the "beast from the abyss," the United States made a big mistake. At present, Islamism is more and more reminiscent of Hitler’s Nazism. By believing in one’s own uniqueness, infallibility and desire to build one’s world order. The virus that grew the Anglo-Saxons, mutated and became unmanageable.

What to do

First, we, like air, need our own state ideology. The state and the people should have a goal, a program and an ideology. Russia is not Holland and not Georgia. Great Russia, with the inclusion of White Russia and Little Russia, is a huge civilization, which has its own development matrix and claims a leading role in the world community. Many thinking people do not for nothing consider Russia the conscience and the heart of the planet. Russia can give the opportunity to humanity to get into the “tomorrow”, and not only the “elect”, but all people. On the other hand, Russia is a kind of “last safeguard” that saves humanity from complete degradation, brutality, and stops a barrier for those forces who dream of global domination, total control over people.

Secondly, the Russian society and government must realize the full depth of the threat from the “Islamic project” and its scale. This is a global threat. A serious analysis of this threat and clear, clear conclusions leading to an adequate response are required.

Thirdly, it is necessary to understand that it makes no sense to negotiate with the Wahhabis, to try to coexist. Only a complete ban on this hostile ideology! Here it is necessary to take into account that Wahhabi is not necessarily a hijab, a beard and a fanatic's look. A convinced Wahhabi in our society may well get an education in Oxford and Cambridge, work in a state structure, a bank, or sit in a local legislative assembly.

Fourthly, it is impossible to break the Russian Islamic community according to the principle of “wood is being cut down - the chips are flying.” It is necessary to proceed to the gradual formation of a completely independent “Russian Islam”, free from the influence of alien conceptual and ideological centers, when the spiritual leaders of Muslims of Russia are educated and receive education in Moscow, Kazan, Ufa, Orenburg, become patriots of their Homeland, ready for a “holy war” against any enemy of Russia, as in the years of the Great Patriotic War. “Russian Islam” will help to return to the orbit of Russia those fragments of the USSR, with a predominance of the Muslim population, which are currently spiritually degraded and attracted by centers hostile to Russia.
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  1. a52333
    a52333 5 November 2013 09: 06
    32
    Hard to complement. The author himself gives the necessary answers as part of the article.
    1. It is necessary to form Russian Islam, not Russian. but Russian.
    2. Visas to CA.
    3. Jammer (oh, a beautiful operating time - Lotus in Ukraine).
    4. Sponsor must be chopped. the root cause is he.
    1. Civil
      Civil 5 November 2013 09: 14
      -17 qualifying.
      The author raves about Tatars, Wahabbits are the North Caucasus and Far Asia, not even Kazakhstan and Tajikistan, this is Afghanistan, Pakistan, and who is also studying at Islamic universities outside the CIS.
      1. domokl
        domokl 5 November 2013 09: 21
        24
        Quote: Civil
        About the Tatars, the author raves,

        Alas, no ... In Syria, not only immigrants from the Caucasus, but also Tatars are enough .. Ours, Kazan, and not Crimean ... And most students of Arab madrassas are from there ...
        1. Migari
          Migari 5 November 2013 09: 48
          14
          Unfortunately, this infection has affected not only the North Caucasus; waiting is not appropriate in the fight against it, the tumor must be removed at the root.
          1. Starfish
            Starfish 5 November 2013 10: 10
            12
            "Unfortunately, this infection has struck not only the North Caucasus, in the fight against it waiting is not appropriate, the tumor must be removed at the root."

            we must start with the "oncologists" in the Kremlin. in their hands all the special services. we would like to have long ago caught all the preachers of Wahhabism, but there is no order from this government, and there will not be.
            1. bolonenkov
              bolonenkov 5 November 2013 14: 22
              -2
              You can read the summaries of recent years on the arrest of such "recruiters" and the heads of terrorists from the North Caucasus, and then talk about the special services.

              And as long as you live in a state of law, the skullcap and beard is not proof of your guilt. Yes, and such cases are proved not so easy. We are not the United States, where you can keep everyone in a row in Guantanamo.
              1. yurii p
                yurii p 5 November 2013 19: 58
                +1
                what kind of legal government can we talk about if the country had and still has such phenomena as KUSHCHEVKA, DALNIY OVD and recently there was a film about the city’s mzr, in Altai, in my opinion, where he ruled like Bai, he didn’t care about the laws, and such examples can lead endlessly.
                1. Mature naturalist
                  Mature naturalist 5 November 2013 21: 23
                  +1
                  Thirdly, it is necessary to understand that there is no sense in negotiating with Wahhabis and trying to coexist.

                  I already wrote: it's time to revive the "White Arrow" or create ...
                2. bolonenkov
                  bolonenkov 5 November 2013 22: 07
                  -1
                  The same examples can be cited endlessly from the citadel of US legal norms and freedoms. For example, the mayor of Detroit and Chicago, or drank 1 trillion dollars,
            2. PSih2097
              PSih2097 5 November 2013 15: 21
              +2
              Quote: Starfish
              in their hands are all special services. they would like, would have long caught all the preachers of Wahhabism, but there is no order from this government, and there will not be.

              yes alas, the same FSB with the Ministry of Internal Affairs can multiply them by zero as soon as possible, but without the order of medveputs this is not realistic, although as I think this card is played out, the near future will show ...
              1. bolonenkov
                bolonenkov 5 November 2013 16: 31
                0
                Quote: PSih2097
                the same FSB with the Ministry of Internal Affairs can multiply them by zero as soon as possible

                Why so sure that everything is so easy? In Spain, the Basque terrorists, or in England (hardly MI5, and MI6 are worse than the FSB), the ETA group also fails. That's what the terrorists are.
            3. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 5 November 2013 18: 38
              +5
              Quote: Starfish
              we must start with the "oncologists" in the Kremlin. in their hands all the special services

              good Investing petrodollars in US government bonds, we pay our killers ourselves. And who invested them there, you yourself said.
            4. yurii p
              yurii p 5 November 2013 19: 51
              +1
              "but there is no order from this government, and there will not be." ..... rumors are circulating that all operations to eliminate the Wahhabis will begin after the Olympics in Sochi, God forbid.
          2. Vadim2013
            Vadim2013 5 November 2013 15: 46
            10
            In my opinion, the main reasons for the spread of Islamism are the lack of work for young people, a sharp property stratification of the population, and comprehensive corruption.
            1. yurii p
              yurii p 5 November 2013 20: 04
              +2
              everyone knows about this, there are recipes for the treatment of this disease, one trouble is not the decisive will of the state.
        2. Civil
          Civil 5 November 2013 10: 32
          +6
          Those who unlearn there, lose their nationality forever, the infection has penetrated in concrete ways, the names are all surname, why these people were allowed back is not clear. These are units, fingers enough to list them in the Volga region.
      2. Arberes
        Arberes 5 November 2013 09: 31
        +9
        Quote: Civil
        About the Tatars, the author raves,

        Yes, no, it’s not raving. They showed on TV how the local Wahhabis under black banners with Arabic script in cars were driving around and this was just the beginning.
        1. bolonenkov
          bolonenkov 5 November 2013 16: 28
          +1
          We have also seen how at stadiums and on marches they wave and throw banners with a swastika, but I think that your picture of the world "good and evil" does not spoil.
      3. yurii p
        yurii p 5 November 2013 19: 48
        +3
        Wake up, it was yesterday, and today's realities are described in detail in the article, one misfortune the authorities at the top do not want to deal with, and as for the North Caucasus, read how many spiritual figures who do not spare their lives fighting radical Islam are killed, all these trends must be legally banned as and Nazism, because these phenomena are ruining society and, at the same time, the country.
      4. alone
        alone 5 November 2013 20: 25
        +5
        Quote: Civil
        The author raves about Tatars, Wahabbits are the North Caucasus and Far Asia, not even Kazakhstan and Tajikistan, this is Afghanistan, Pakistan, and who is also studying at Islamic universities outside the CIS.


        everyone has Wahhabis. You are mistaken.
      5. vlad0
        vlad0 6 November 2013 15: 55
        0
        Alas, look at how many clashes with hobbits and other radicals have been in Tatarstan and Bashkiria over the past 10 years.
      6. vlad0
        vlad0 6 November 2013 15: 56
        0
        Alas, look at how many clashes with hobbits and other radicals have been in Tatarstan and Bashkiria over the past 10 years.
        1. Basileus
          Basileus 7 November 2013 09: 15
          0
          In Bashkiria, I remember only one thing. VV worked out a gang of "horse thieves" in the forest from mortars. It is clear what kind of "horse thieves" they were, the Vovans did everything right.
    2. APES
      APES 5 November 2013 09: 29
      12
      [quote] how air needs its own state ideology. The state and people should have a goal, program and ideology. [Quote]

      This is paramount, namely:

      An unconditional bet on the Russian people must be made.

      There is an ideology, just many people who hold power are afraid of it, like fire - they know whose meat they ate.
      1. Starfish
        Starfish 5 November 2013 09: 59
        +6
        "An unconditional stake must be placed on the Russian people."

        I agree. Russians can break the ridge of Wahhabism. for this, at least, the authorities and our Muslims should not interfere, but it is advisable to help, which we do not see yet.
        1. bolonenkov
          bolonenkov 5 November 2013 14: 25
          +2
          Quote: Starfish
          Russians can break the ridge of Wahhabism. for this, at least, the authorities and our Muslims should not interfere


          How are you going to break the ridge of Wahhabism in such conditions with the help of Russians?
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 5 November 2013 15: 25
            0
            Quote: bolonenkov
            How are you going to break the ridge of Wahhabism in such conditions with the help of Russians?

            elementary (operation "Lentil", the deportation of Crimean Tatars), there would be an order ...
            1. Prisoner
              Prisoner 5 November 2013 15: 54
              +2
              And where this time you were going to deport and who exactly, only Wahhabis, or do you mean the deportation of several peoples?
              1. bolonenkov
                bolonenkov 5 November 2013 16: 25
                +1
                He was asked the corresponding question, so, to test the mental ability to think critically ... the test failed ..
              2. Mature naturalist
                Mature naturalist 5 November 2013 21: 27
                +1
                Quote: Prisoner
                And where are you going to deport this time?

                It’s time to re-explore the Arctic ...
            2. bolonenkov
              bolonenkov 5 November 2013 16: 24
              -5
              And who will you deport?
              Oh yes, I forgot, in Operation Lentil, all the cars were filled with guilty women, children, and so on ...
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 5 November 2013 18: 24
                10
                Quote: bolonenkov
                all cars were packed with guilty women and children

                Their husbands and fathers were OBLIGED to think about the consequences when they destroyed the underground and their FAMILY. Krymchaks and Czechs grabbed exactly what they deserved. And now he’s not whining about children's suffering and hardship. In the USA during the war, all the Japanese sat without explanation.
                1. bolonenkov
                  bolonenkov 5 November 2013 18: 32
                  -5
                  Their husbands and fathers were OBLIGED to think about the consequences,

                  The question was whether these women and young children were to blame.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 5 November 2013 18: 50
                    +7
                    Quote: bolonenkov
                    were these women and young children to blame?

                    In Afghanistan and Chechnya, we lost the war precisely because we allowed the militants to maintain infrastructure. The family is part of the infrastructure, at night he runs in the mountains with a gun, and during the day he is a law-abiding citizen. The war should be waged with the understanding of this fact. Krymchaks and Chechens fought on the side of the enemy, and the ENEMY did not differ in humanity, quite the contrary. Stalin acted very humanely, and he could send them to Turkey, had every right. The inevitability of retaliation must be complete, and exceed the price of the crime, and not compensate for it.
                    PS My opinion is that the war in Chechnya, judging by the consequences, we lost. Repatriation to the losers is not paid.
                    1. Prisoner
                      Prisoner 5 November 2013 19: 54
                      -1
                      The Balkarians, Karachaevtsy, Pololsky Germans, Koreans, apparently all of them, too, according to your opinion, fought on the side of the Nazis once they were evicted. By the way, in Kazakhstan there were many Greeks from the Krasnodar Territory, I don’t know whether they were also evicted or whether they were simply evacuated. If they were evicted, it was also strange, like in Greece resistance to the Nazis was very strongly developed during the years of occupation, why are they? All these fables about the white horse are worthless, but it was necessary to somehow justify their actions. Almost all Russians can say that someone from their relatives close fought. You can judge by the example of my family, I am an Ingush, a paternal grandfather, worked at a defense plant somewhere in the Urals as a chief engineer, during the years of deportation he was the chief engineer of a mine in Kazakhstan. Grandmother’s cousin by mother-pilot seems to be a transport aircraft Rashid Akhriev-died at the front. Mother father worked in the prosecutor's office of Grozny, after the deportation was disabled, amputated toes as a result of frostbite. Grandmother’s second husband is a reconnaissance mother, a member of Medvedev’s partisan detachment. During the Second World War, they were several times presented to the title of Hero but were given only in the 90s. A cousin of his grandmother on his father-fought, after the war he came to Kazakhstan.
                      In principle, for one family, one of the smallest peoples of the USSR, in my opinion there are enough that would not be considered deserters, deviators, or traitors. However, all the relatives were evicted. Rightly and very humanely, Stalin did the right thing?
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 6 November 2013 07: 17
                        +2
                        Quote: Prisoner
                        Rightly and very humanely, Stalin did the right thing?

                        Exceptions are everywhere. The forest is cut, chips fly, you would not know.
                      2. Prisoner
                        Prisoner 6 November 2013 14: 12
                        +1
                        Well, if for you the suffering of hundreds of women, children, old people is slivers, then there’s nothing to talk about. I think that if you touch your people, your family, you would also feel righteous anger. And talking about chips is easy when it has not touched you.
                  2. bolonenkov
                    bolonenkov 5 November 2013 22: 10
                    0
                    So how are you going to send the Wahhabs then? Wagons of Bashkirs, Tatars and Russians?
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 6 November 2013 07: 20
                      +1
                      Quote: bolonenkov
                      Wahhabs then? Wagons of Bashkirs, Tatars and Russians?

                      Incorrect associative chain.
                    2. bolonenkov
                      bolonenkov 6 November 2013 10: 52
                      +1
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Incorrect associative chain.

                      There were words about "breaking the back of Wahhabism", as an example they gave the operation "lentils", now the question
                      How are you going to deport Wahhabis using this example?
                  3. rauffg
                    rauffg 6 November 2013 08: 12
                    0
                    Well, if they’ll succeed in lying to Siberia, there are enough of their wahs:
                    In Novosibirsk, law enforcement officers stopped the activities of a gang associated with the North Caucasus underground, the National Anti-Terrorism Committee of the Russian Federation told RIA Novosti. Detained 11 people. In the interests of the investigation, their names are not disclosed.
                    “A number of citizens suspected of committing especially dangerous crimes in November-December 2011 were detained,” the report says. “Among those arrested, five people, according to operational data, were part of the so-called“ Novosibirsk Jamaat ”- an extremist organization that finances bandit underground in the North Caucasus ".

                    As specified in the department, the gang planned a series of acts of sabotage and attempts on the life of security officials "in order to seize weapons." The group also recruited citizens to participate in gang activities and funded militants. According to the NAC, the bandits obtained funds for these purposes by means of extortion, robbery and robbery.

                    During the search, five machine guns, three pistols, two grenade launchers, TNT, plastid and other components for making bombs, four grenades, two thousand rounds of ammunition, portable radio stations, laptops, camouflage kits, the so-called "black flag of jihad" were seized from the detainees. religious extremist literature.

                    http://www.rg.ru/2012/03/03/banda-anons.html
        2. rauffg
          rauffg 6 November 2013 08: 06
          +1
          Well, let the nations because of a few freaks against others set up ...
  2. yurii p
    yurii p 5 November 2013 20: 08
    +2
    "An unconditional stake should be made on the Russian people." ........... this is where the stratification in society begins, and on the contrary, society must be consolidated against all manifestations of radicalism, be it Wahhabism, Nazism, chauvinism and other manifestations of aggression.
  • sevtrash
    sevtrash 5 November 2013 09: 30
    +8
    Quote: a52333
    Hard to complement. The author himself gives the necessary answers as part of the article.
    1. It is necessary to form Russian Islam, not Russian. but Russian.
    2. Visas to CA.
    3. Jammer (oh, a beautiful operating time - Lotus in Ukraine).
    4. Sponsor must be chopped. the root cause is he.

    I would add - to conduct prudent propaganda against radical Islamism and not only, to form an appropriate image of radical Islam, to plant and not only agents of influence, active radicalists. In general, there should be active work of special services, which is not visible.
    1. bolonenkov
      bolonenkov 5 November 2013 14: 28
      +4
      Good active work of special services should not be visible, but we judge their work only by the presence of terrorist attacks, and not by their absence for 3 years.
    2. CTEPX
      CTEPX 5 November 2013 15: 33
      +3
      Quote: sevtrash
      plant and not only agents of influence, active radicals.

      And etch the so-called regions from the regions. "civic patriotism", which is implanted among the Russian population instead of military-patriotic education. At a time when the military-patriotic education of Russia's enemies is the basis of the foundations.
  • Canep
    Canep 5 November 2013 09: 38
    23
    I already wrote that it is necessary to ban visits to Saudi Arabia, for citizens of both Russia and Kazakhstan. And in case of violation of the prohibition of choice: deprivation of citizenship and right to reside in Russia (Kazakhstan) or a prison term (5-10 years). For pilgrims to Mecca, you need to make an exception, go in a group, and under the supervision of an agent of the FSB (KNB). All extremist Islam comes from Saudi Arabia.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 5 November 2013 15: 26
      +3
      Quote: Canep
      All extremist Islam comes from Saudi Arabia.

      Qatar forgot ...
    2. Semurg
      Semurg 5 November 2013 15: 45
      +6
      Quote: Canep
      I already wrote that it is necessary to ban visits to Saudi Arabia, for citizens of both Russia and Kazakhstan. And in case of violation of the prohibition of choice: deprivation of citizenship and right to reside in Russia (Kazakhstan) or a prison term (5-10 years). For pilgrims to Mecca, you need to make an exception, go in a group, and under the supervision of an agent of the FSB (KNB). All extremist Islam comes from Saudi Arabia.

      maybe you’re right, I can only immediately recall the former alliance with our tourist groups in Europe and the curators from the office (Russo tourist vis-à-vis morality laughing ) bans have not yet won a single victory, but the truth drove the problem deep into where she continued to live and climbed out even stronger at the first opportunity (the forbidden fruit is sweet)
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 5 November 2013 09: 59
    16
    The author is unfortunately right and I also believe that new radical Islamists of all stripes are opposing the RUSSIANS! then there will be a series of other "infidel" peoples of Russia and the post-Soviet space.
    They act clandestinely brainwashing young Muslims because they are ... completely illiterate people. The dumber a man, the easier it is to deceive him.
    I don’t agree that Russians need Islam. Islam is already against the Russians (with the help of the bastards of Arabs and Anglo-Saxons). This must be understood first.
    I think it is necessary to form a national guard exclusively from Russians (not nationalists with swastikas, but real patriots of their country who are ready to defend Mother Motherland, raised by Soviet people), and create volunteer groups from other nations, create a coalition, troops against radical Islam and be prepared, in case of large pogroms or war, to repulse the villains. I am sure the sons of the great ancestors who defeated Napoleon and Hitler can not hit their faces in the mud in front of the small dirty bandits. The main thing is not to spare them.
    1. marshes
      marshes 5 November 2013 10: 10
      +5
      Quote: Max_Bauder
      They act clandestinely brainwashing young Muslims because they are ... completely illiterate people. The dumber a man, the easier it is to deceive him.

      Oddly enough, among the adherents of "non-traditional Islam" there are quite a few people with higher or secondary specialized education, from middle-income families, seemingly prosperous.
      "Youthful maximalism" and injustice are a breeding ground for recruiters.
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 5 November 2013 16: 10
        +6
        swamps. You are right a couple of times I talked with short pants quite literate guys and ideological, which is always visible and felt. A couple of times I heard a dispute when mullahs and "short pants" argued, and both times "short pants" were more convincing because ideological and mullahs are simply "businessmen" from religion. Personally, I’m old and you’re not campaigning for me, but young people are beaten up.
      2. old rocket man
        old rocket man 5 November 2013 16: 47
        +6
        Quote: marshes
        Oddly enough, among the adherents of "non-traditional Islam" there are quite a few people with higher or secondary specialized education, from middle-income families, seemingly prosperous.
        "Youthful maximalism" and injustice are a breeding ground for recruiters.

        There is nothing strange, let's not biasedly and frankly look at the quality of "higher education" in the former Central Asian and Caucasian republics, - let's just say below the secondary level and the fault here is also the "national cadres" and, you need to understand that the gaps in secondary education cannot be filled by obtaining a higher education ...
        Also, the increased religiosity prevailing in these areas creates favorable conditions for religious extremist propaganda. Any ideology, including religion, is by its nature antagonistic to others, especially during its promotion and dissemination, neither Islam nor the Russian Orthodox Church make an exception, after religion was driven out of the communist ideology into a vacuum in the post-Soviet space, and secular authorities very hesitantly supported the principle of separation of the church from the state (this applies to all faiths). The propaganda and teaching of religion in public schools in the media should be prohibited, and religious figures should also be prohibited to be elected to representative bodies of all levels, not to believers, I emphasize, but to priests, it’s good to apply the same to military personnel and officials, politics and religion, together with public service, are not compatible.
        I see nothing shameful if the state takes on the functions of a regulator of relations in society, in the end, for this, including, it was created.
  • Starfish
    Starfish 5 November 2013 10: 05
    +8
    "It is necessary to form Russian Islam, not Russian. But Russian."

    yes what to form it, it has been formed for hundreds of years. here it is necessary to toughly catch Wahhabis, plant their own for a long time, and strangers after serving them and extradite them to their homeland. separate zones for them to prevent propaganda among criminals. daily work in the fresh air for 12 hours will help to recover from insanity.
    but our authorities are not up to it. They are busy with "modernization" and "nanoscience" with Olympiads. They have no time for such nonsense as to preserve the country.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 5 November 2013 15: 33
      +6
      Quote: Starfish
      here it is necessary to toughly catch Wahhabis, plant their own for a long time, and strangers after serving them and extradite them to their homeland.

      easier and cheaper to shoot ...
      Quote: Starfish
      but our authorities are not up to it. They are busy with "modernization" and "nanoscience" with Olympiads. They have no time for such nonsense as to preserve the country.

      at the Olympics, something will happen (DON'T GIVE GOD) - they can see clearly, although not a fact ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 5 November 2013 18: 58
        +1
        Quote: PSih2097
        can see clearly, although not a fact ...

        Fact, but not the wrong way. Do not see clearly. They look at it through other lenses.
  • Walker1975
    Walker1975 5 November 2013 12: 50
    0
    And how will you form Russian Islam if all government representatives say from all TVs that we are an Orthodox Church? When do Russian marches called for unification go under Orthodox symbolism? When the inhabitants of the European part of Russia against the construction of mosques?
  • wk-083
    wk-083 6 November 2013 00: 41
    +1
    Hang this jamal bitch on the first minaret !!!
  • domokl
    domokl 5 November 2013 09: 11
    +6
    Interestingly, but it seemed to me, too, that once with a non-commissioned widow ... Traditional Islam itself was carved. Not only it was carved, but put on the brink of destruction. Who sent young men to study at the madrassa? Who pretended that he did not know what and how are they taught? And now, having received a real enemy who beats the traditionalists with their own weapons, they require some kind of government action ...
    And which ones, let me ask you, the only action that can somehow reduce (mind you, not eliminate, but only reduce) the influence of Wahhabism on youth, a ban on the activities of religious institutions. And the state cannot understand this ... If you forbid Islam, then everyone else must be banned ...
    The only way out is to use the traditional moral principles of the East - respect for elders and respect for power. You can’t fix anything by force.
    1. optimist
      optimist 5 November 2013 21: 13
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      .If Islam is forbidden, then everyone else should be banned ...

      As the character of one famous film said: "I can't accept this !!!". The problem is not in Islam, as such (the shaitan himself, I suppose, will not distinguish where "correct Islam" is, and where not). The problem is in the current u.buckling power, which needs millions of stupid religious sheep (no matter what religion), because every religion begins with "all power from God." And so that some "rams" could always be set on others. The Bolsheviks were far from stupid people when they covered up all this "opium for the people" ...
  • os9165
    os9165 5 November 2013 09: 13
    +9
    Western analytical centers concluded that in order to impede the process of self-organization of the post-Soviet space (the creation of a new empire), it is necessary to launch a program of Islamization of the republics of the former USSR.

    Our answer: the Russians do not want to remain disenfranchised cattle in their country, it is time for the Russians to obtain the status of a state of a forming people. The authorities pursue a policy towards the Russians, which is not much different from the genocide. Unfortunately, the Russians are still fragmented, they often do not speak about Russian oppression or are silent. Today it is difficult to define Russians as a nation, but if you are a Russian (Russian citizens), then you must respect the language, culture, history and traditions of Russia, and it has become saturated with Russianness. For Russians, power, they are the real power in the country. Like it or not. Russians have one way: to be elder - strong, fair, going to the aid of all citizens of Russia, including Muslims of Russia. We should all have the motto not Chechnya, Tatarstan, etc. and Russia is a force.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 5 November 2013 09: 54
      +1
      "Our answer. The Russians do not want to remain a powerless cattle in their country, it is time for the Russians to receive the status of the state of the forming people. The authorities are pursuing a policy towards the Russians, not much different from genocide."

      all right. but while these authorities are in power, sorry for the tautology, nothing can be changed.
    2. bolonenkov
      bolonenkov 5 November 2013 18: 25
      -3
      Quote: os9165
      The authorities pursue a policy towards the Russians, which is not much different from the genocide.

      What is this manifested in in the fact that in the twenty most subsidized regions of Russia there are only 3 regions from the North Caucasus, while not one of them is included in the top five in terms of subsidies, but in the same 20 out of 8 regions of the Far East?
      You probably still believe in stories about replacing the population with migrants.

      Quote: os9165
      We should all have the motto not Chechnya, Tatarstan, etc. and Russia is a force.

      There was such a slogan "Russia for Russians", I don't remember who came up with it, like Russians.
      And yes, the fans of Russian Spartak were waving flags with a swastika, the Russians did the same at the "Russian March" and also threw ridges.

      Quote: os9165
      Russians get the status of the state of the forming people


      Don't you think that the titular nation should not set such an example?

      I believe that it is impossible to judge the nation as a whole by individual stubborn representatives of a particular ethnic group. The same applies to Caucasians-terrorists, and radicals, they can not be judged on religion in general.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 5 November 2013 19: 02
        0
        Quote: bolonenkov
        You probably still believe in stories about replacing the population with migrants.

        So you called yourself. They come to us with whose permission? Do you still believe in chance? Eagle on the avatar is not confused?
        1. bolonenkov
          bolonenkov 5 November 2013 22: 14
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Eagle on the avatar is not confused?

          And in the case, you have nothing as I understand it ... the message message was completely different ...
          And I do not deny the problem of migrants and call for the introduction of visas, and the myth about substitution is complete nonsense born on the knee of a very desperate nationalist before the "Russian March"
          1. smile
            smile 6 November 2013 00: 31
            +1
            bolonenkov
            You will laugh, but this nonsense was invented not by Russian nationalists, but by the bloody ones - the brightest liars on this topic are Konstantin Krylov articles in Svobodnaya Pressa, Latynina, Vladimir Milov (articles in Gazeta ru. Vedomosti and other lines where in the liberal media).
            Moreover, these comrades and their other marsh colleagues are lying so that the jacket is wrapped up ... they have become patriots of "this country", so that the pathetic handful of our real Natsik do not hold a candle to stirring up interethnic hatred - they have neither brains nor resources. ... the Nazis serve only for propaganda purposes. They are just really needed by the swamp. It is not in vain that the fascists touchingly united with the liberals in a united impulse against the bloody regime of Putin. :)))
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 6 November 2013 09: 18
              +1
              Quote: smile
              It was not for nothing that the fascists touchingly joined the liberals in the swamp against the bloody regime of Putin.

              Hello Vladimir. Recently I heard a lot of eulogies about the GDP. But what did he really do? Actually invested in the army, but more conversations than investments. He raised the salary in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, while reducing them so that there is no one to work. And all this is investment in the power sector. And where are the investments in the economy, social programs? I live in Togliatti, I know how he handed over the VAZ to the French, having previously put the plant on the brink of bankruptcy. And HE did it personally, coming and controlling the process. The French only need assembly, they already have the scientific and technical base. The same picture is in agriculture.
              Nevertheless, I will be the first in the ranks of VVP fans if it starts to raise the real sectors of the economy, and not playing with the LADY a game of good and bad cop. You mentioned the swamp, so there were many real patriots of their country on the swamp, but the script was slipped by those whom you mentioned with an unkind word. For GDP, the Navalny project is needed as a distraction. No more than a controlled "opposition". I have no illusions, I understand that HIM cannot be shoved, and it is probably unnecessary, we do not have real leaders like the Old Man. And let him be at least a life-long emperor, if only he did something, and not blah, blah, blah, like now.
              1. smile
                smile 6 November 2013 10: 35
                +1
                Ingvar 72
                Hello. You know. I do not agree with your assessment that nothing is being done. I have not heard about the personal control of GDP over the destruction of the VAZ .... sorry, but I do not really believe it, it is too similar to some reasoning ... well, tell me, why personally go for destruction? Show off? After all, it is enough to give a few orders. I live in the Kaliningrad region. Over the past ten years, more has been built than in the previous 20-25, including housing and industrial. enterprises. Even S.X comes to his senses. It is the economy that is rising, despite the fact that we are in the exclave and therefore we have a lot of imports and fuel is almost the most expensive in the country.
                If someone better than Putin appears, I’ll be happy to support him, at least because of the epic with Serdyukov ... but I don’t see better.
                And I do not agree that the opposition is controlled by Putin.
                1. The most active part of it is financed and controlled from abroad.
                2. Its propaganda is very effective and systemic, even you, excuse me, take on faith some of their creative slogans. And the merits in inciting ethnic hatred are enormous.
                3. She saddled all the protest moods, including the legitimate discontent of the patriots ... which in this case simply turned into blind performers of little people like anal ... alas
                In general, statements that Putin controls the opposition (although, of course, the FSB is simply obliged to do this) are akin to the fact that he himself has been raising militants in the Caucasus ... I consider them unfounded.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 6 November 2013 11: 10
                  0
                  Quote: smile
                  .well tell me, why personally ride to destroy

                  Immediately after his two visits, and he came twice within six months, they sold another 20 percent of the shares of VAZ, before buying a license for the chassis of Logan from the same French with the money of a state loan, now he is Largus. The meaning of this purchase before selling a controlling stake?
                  Quote: smile
                  In general, statements that Putin controls the opposition (although, of course, the FSB is simply obliged to do this) are akin to the fact that he himself raises militants in the Caucasus ... I consider them unfounded
                  Huge subsidies to this region must be targeted. And they are given without any reservations. With this money they build mosques and monuments to fighters with Russia. And there is no official reaction to the arrival of preachers from the SA; in the media it is consecrated as an EVENT. We treat the symptoms, not the cause of the disease. In foreign policy, there are no complaints against GDP, but in domestic, oh, so to speak.
      2. CTEPX
        CTEPX 6 November 2013 06: 01
        +1
        Quote: bolonenkov
        in the twenty most subsidized regions of Russia, only 3 regions from the North Caucasus

        How to turn a working region into a subsidized one?)). It's very simple - to deprive him of the budget of income from enterprises operating there)). Or kill those enterprises that "feed" the region)).
        Quote: bolonenkov
        There was such a slogan "Russia for Russians",

        And why do you not like the slogan: "Russia is power!"
        Quote: bolonenkov
        Don't you think that the titular nation should not set such an example?

        Russians get the status of a nation-forming nation?
        There are two ways out: either to officially fix such a status for Russians in Russia, or to eliminate the advantages of national republics over territories and regions)).
        1. Basileus
          Basileus 6 November 2013 09: 13
          0
          And what are the advantages of the republics over the territories and regions, can you tell?
        2. bolonenkov
          bolonenkov 6 November 2013 10: 59
          0
          Quote: ctepx
          Quote: bolonenkov
          in the twenty most subsidized regions of Russia, only 3 regions from the North Caucasus
          How to turn a working region into a subsidized one?)). It's very simple - to deprive him of the budget of income from enterprises operating there)). Or kill those enterprises that "feed" the region)).

          The question is, where is the genocide of the Russian people traced? By the way, donor regions are, for example, such republics as Bashkiria and Tatarstan.

          Quote: ctepx
          And why do you not like the slogan: "Russia is power!"

          The slogan is thrown by a person who calls for a Russian march and stands up for the "title" of one people, ala white bone, read the rest in my comments to him
          1. Basileus
            Basileus 6 November 2013 11: 47
            0
            Are you aware of how subsidies are distributed and what it is? If the money earned by the regions remained in them, then there would be no subsidies for the rich regions. Now it is happening like this - the money earned by the regions is sent to the center and distributed as a so-called. "subsidies". It is logical that the more a region contributed, the more it returns, but at the same time they still take a piece for poorer regions. So, subsidies should be determined not by the absolute amount of subsidies, but by the ratio of receipts to the fed. budget from the region to subsidies returned from the center.

            And this country is called a federation, yes. Although it is clear that some regions cannot be raised without injections from the center.
            1. Basileus
              Basileus 6 November 2013 12: 25
              0
              http://ty-214.livejournal.com/346865.html вот тут есть табличка - по ней замечательно видно, сколько процентов от налогов, перечисляемых в фед. бюджет, возвращается в регион.
              1. CTEPX
                CTEPX 6 November 2013 13: 28
                0
                Quote: Basileus
                how many percent of taxes transferred to the fed. budget is returned to the region.

                The trick is, WHERE, in which region, do enterprises in this region pay taxes?)). And even more interesting is that, as a rule, the "re-subordination" of an enterprise to Moscow is just an intermediate stage in the transition to foreign taxation)).
                Quote: bolonenkov
                donor regions are, for example, such republics as Bashkiria and Tatarstan.

                Exactly)). The national "oil" republics are donors, and the Krasnoyarsk Territory with Vankor, Rusal, Norilsk Nickel, Krasnoyarsk, Sayano-Shushenskaya, Boguchanskaya hydroelectric power stations, Polyus-Zolotoye, etc. is planned unprofitable)).
            2. bolonenkov
              bolonenkov 6 November 2013 15: 50
              0
              Rosneft in Chechnya pumps out more oil than all the subsidies for it per year.
              If you give all the income of the regions to the regions, then you will see a picture of the years 95-97, and they will come to knock with helmets, and mops ...
              1. Basileus
                Basileus 7 November 2013 09: 11
                0
                Follow the link. There is about oil there, so don’t be bullshit.
              2. CTEPX
                CTEPX 7 November 2013 09: 52
                0
                Quote: bolonenkov
                Rosneft in Chechnya pumps out more oil than all the subsidies for it per year.

                Do not distort)). We are not talking about the cost of the pumped oil, but about taxes on the production that remains at the disposal of certain regions. And here the national republics have a clear preferential position)).
                1. Basileus
                  Basileus 7 November 2013 20: 29
                  0
                  I have provided a link above. Go through it and make sure that you are wrong, and the percentage of taxes going to the center does not depend on whether it is a republic or an area.
                  1. CTEPX
                    CTEPX 7 November 2013 20: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Basileus
                    The percentage of taxes that go to the center does not depend on whether it is a republic or an oblast.

                    But the enterprises paying taxes at the place of stay in the national republics are many times more than in the territories and regions)).
                    1. Basileus
                      Basileus 8 November 2013 07: 39
                      0
                      Well, these are not the problems of the republics, you know.
                      1. CTEPX
                        CTEPX 8 November 2013 10: 36
                        0
                        Quote: Basileus
                        Well, these are not the problems of the republics, you know.

                        That is why some comrades are talking about the genocide of the Russian people in Russia)). And, in its extreme manifestations, this artificially created advantage of national republics over territories and regions is approaching genocide.
  • smersh70
    smersh70 5 November 2013 09: 21
    11
    that a Wahhabi is not necessarily a hijab, a beard and a fanatic look. A convinced Wahhabi in our society may well get an education in Oxford and Cambridge, work in a government agency, a bank, sit in a local legislative assembly ..........

    gold words.......... hi

    it is necessary to understand that there is no point in negotiating with the Wahhabis, trying to coexist. Only a complete ban on this hostile ideology. .

    clearly stated ......
    1. de_monSher
      de_monSher 6 November 2013 01: 46
      +1
      = addressed to everyone =

      You understand, not a single Salafi or Wahhabite will appreciate the beauty of these lines, a Muslim (Soviet) poet, since for him it can be "shirk" = sin =:

      The rays of the sky pierce the sky
      I go out to meet you, world.
      You are not a hot black horse
      May evening be slower, peace!

      I look at the earth - it is given to blossom,
      I look at the sky - the sky is locked up.
      Without peering, we must leave
      The joy of the eyes of men, peace.

      You see spring disappears without a trace
      The brain will turn to ashes forever.
      The universe is mysteriously gray-haired,
      Not with everyone frank in speech, the world.

      In the distance the clouds melted a light trail
      The moon, as before, pallid light.
      Umai died and Jalal is not ...
      To pitiless us, people, there is nothing the world.

      This must have been a vow since ancient times:
      The world gives life to man as a guarantee.
      We all leave - there are no roads back
      But you live, you will be eternal, peace! ..

      Love is dead, the dream is ruined
      But woe awakens the thirst for happiness in the heart.
      Long live the future!
      Then there will be no separation, no bitter tears!

      These lines were written by the poet, after whom your Parents gave you the name. And God forbid that Russians, good neighbors, friends - I'm afraid to call them brothers, because, for sure, I learn a lot of interesting things about myself and my fellow tribesmen, Uzbeks, from nationalist Russians - they also understood that we, Muslims, first of all nafih such "figures from religion" are not needed.
  • FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 5 November 2013 09: 24
    11
    I will not tire of repeating: stop flirting with priests, mullahs and other rabbis, Russia is a secular state, this is enshrined in the Constitution, therefore the coalescence of power and any religious cult is a violation of the country's main law, and there must be a main punishment for violating the main law. We, in principle, should not care about such problems; in a secular state, they should have the most modest place, and not a political tribune.
    1. Vadim-Skeptic
      Vadim-Skeptic 5 November 2013 09: 57
      0
      The question is, Muslims themselves know what is traditional Islam, and what Islamic religious movements and sects ...
      If we generalize what traditional religions are, and what, accordingly, currents and sects ...
      1. de_monSher
        de_monSher 6 November 2013 01: 37
        +1
        The question is, Muslims themselves know what is traditional Islam, and what Islamic religious movements and sects ...


        Umm ... they know. Moreover, much better than you can even imagine.
    2. antibanukurayza
      antibanukurayza 5 November 2013 10: 10
      +6
      This is not flirting - this is a proactive strategy. If you also bend your line of "secular state" and declare a "witch hunt", you will lose allies from among the representatives of the traditional religion, be it Islam or another religion. This factor will be easily used by the Wahhabis Salafis. In Kazakhstan, the fight against the Wahhabis-Salafis is mainly going on in the information field, there is also through the special services, but this is beyond the threshold of publicity. We noticed long ago that those who call themselves "Salafis" have changed their tactics - they do not act openly as before. They shortened their beards, lengthened their trousers, and put on secular clothes. They do not enter into polemics and disputes with us, representatives of traditional Islam. They do not oppose the government openly or against the imams. BUT! They recruit schoolchildren, students. They organize circles in the hostels where they rub in the teachings of their sheikhs Useimin, Ibn Taymiyyah, Albani and others to the youth. As a result, we began to see salaf among the youth more often. For people far from religion, all Muslims are one person. But we can easily distinguish salafita-madhalita from salafita-sururita. This is the problem of society - they do not know their enemy by sight! And it would be necessary that people distinguish their ally from the enemy. This is a potential army of ideologically zombified jihadists. You need to fight them on the information field:
      1) We arrange disputes with Sayalphites, spread their beliefs to smithereens. Record is laid out on the Internet accessible to all
      2) We urge Muslim students to identify members of the Salafi circles, knowledgeable people talk with them, dissuade them. Many return to traditional Islam
      3) Salami-Wahhabis imams and learned people process in prisons, explain to them the fallacy of their beliefs.
      4) Their books are being studied. references to the works of Wahhabi scholars are inserted in the usual reference book about Islam.
      So this is a requirement of time. This is a common struggle against Wahhabi ideology, whether you are an atheist, a Muslim adhering to a madhhab or a representative of another faith.
    3. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 5 November 2013 10: 15
      +5
      You’re absolutely right, buddy, in a secular state there should not be medieval relations and laws that dirty radicals are pushing us to, these scoundrels did not even understand the happiness that Soviet people built in Afghanistan, schools, hospitals, electricity, these idiots like to live in the Middle Ages, which is interesting they teach literate people how to live, who launched a person into space and built a pioneer camp.
      Even these senility do not understand that Russia lives according to the moral laws traditionally inherited from the USSR, when a person is the most important thing in the country, it is spelled out even in the constitution, in the West we don’t have double standards, homosexuals, and other rot of the West, and Supports Russia, albeit for pragmatic reasons, exclusively fair states like Syria.
      Instead of fighting together with the dirty Arabs, the Saudis, who sniffed out the "Evil Empire" of the United States, the stupid radicals dared to fight with the common people of the Soviet space, who did nothing wrong to them.
      I understand the mercenaries who are ready to rob, rape and profit, but I do not understand the traitors who are going to fight with them on the territory of their ancestors, destroying their own homes with their compatriots.
      Radicalists cannot offer a bright future (education, medicine, and just a prosperous peaceful life) they offer two options, either to become a slave to Allah (in fact, a slave to a field commander whose hand is sowing death) or die a happy martyr’s death, killing the lives of defenseless people (infidels in their understanding) that these ubl ... poorly do not understand that they are doing evil. Indeed, the demon (shaitan) is now outraging in the minds of people.
  • Ascetic
    Ascetic 5 November 2013 10: 11
    +9
    Already many prosperous Tatar families have satellite dishes that are tuned to Al-Jazeera or Al-Arabia.
    The true founders, ideological inspirers and leaders of the Al-Jazeera television station were the brothers David and Jean Friedman, tied to Israeli leaders and ideologists of Zionism. The Friedman brothers sought to ensure that their the channel was perceived as Arabic. They managed to attract the new emir of Qatar, Hamid bin Khalifa al-Thani, who, with the help of London and Washington, had just overthrown his father, accused of pro-Iranian sentiment. Inform flows of Al-Jazeera were driven by former BBC employees. The Qatari Air Force department was fired and everyone was immediately transferred to Al-Jazeera. you see, they quarreled with the BBC leadership, and left the television and radio corporation. Naturally with a scandal and beating utensils. . It’s almost like the escape of “the best in Russia - the NTV journalist team” (“independent nightingales” - glorifying Chechen fighters) on channel 6. And as everyone knows, there are no former BBC employees. A BBC officer and a British intelligence officer are synonyms.
    Wadah Khanfar, al-Jazeera and the triumph of television propaganda
    1. marshes
      marshes 5 November 2013 10: 27
      +3
      Good afternoon Ascetic.
      Not long ago, he watched the film of Sirian, showed about one of the Gulf countries, reminded of Qatar. A good political thriller.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 5 November 2013 12: 25
        +5
        Quote: marshes
        Good afternoon Ascetic.
        Not long ago, he watched the film of Sirian, showed about one of the Gulf countries, reminded of Qatar. A good political thriller.


        this infection has infiltrated everywhere, including brainwashing and the recruitment of militants in Kazakhstan.
        Syria eliminated militants with Kazakhstani passports. It became known about the results of the special operation that the Syrian army carried out near the border with Turkey, the CPC reports. In the ranks of the gang, militants from all over the world are fighting, primarily from Egypt, Iraq, Libya and the Philippines. There are also many representatives of the CIS countries, in particular Russia, and now, as it turned out now, Kazakhstan.
        The exact number of our compatriots killed during the recent operation has not yet been reported, but representatives of the Syrian army say that all of them were in the war zone with their families.
        Recall that earlier information appeared immediately about one hundred and fifty Kazakhstanis who went to war in Syria. They took their young children with them to the Middle East.The identities of several militants have already been established - these are natives of the Karaganda and Akmola regions. Whether they survived or not, is still unknown - these citizens of Kazakhstan are members of another terrorist group that did not take part in the battle on the border with Turkey.

        Syria eliminated militants with Kazakhstani passports
        If the Kazakhs (although the question is Kazakhs) manage to infect with the ideas of jihad and radical Islam, which, in theory, is alien to the steppe traditions and mentality, then the scale of the aggression of radical sectarians using the money and information resources of the builders of the new world order is truly menacing. A systemic opposition, alas, has not yet been observed anywhere.
        1. marshes
          marshes 5 November 2013 13: 11
          +2
          Quote: Ascetic
          sectarians

          The trouble is that we have a free religion, when trying to close some sects, scandals for us with all kinds of human rights organizations sometimes even interfere with the diplomats of Western states. With Muslim communities, the West does not support them easier.
          But I noticed that there are more radicals in Kazakhstan in the north and west of Kazakhstan than in the south. The West is understandable, the influence of the North Caucasus, and preachers like there ... Astrakhan did their job. The region is rich in hydrocarbons but the population is not very rich, they consider themselves deprived. After the collapse of the USSR, an ideological vacuum formed which was filled by all sects, plus there weren’t enough literate mullahs who completed madrassas in the USSR, Ufa-it was probably the only one in the USSR, although there were more Orthodox spiritual simenaries.
          To take the north and center is the same situation, but there are still plenty of other sects.
          Maybe everything depends on the economy, people have a lot of free time, and they’re doing all kinds of nonsense. As my commander, Soldier without work, Criminal told me!
          And most importantly, they are all seemingly educated, from wealthy families.
  • newcomer
    newcomer 5 November 2013 10: 19
    0
    Quote: smersh70
    it is necessary to understand that there is no point in negotiating with the Wahhabis, trying to coexist. Only a complete ban on this hostile ideology. .

    very necessary ... only earlier! and now it seems like it will not work without war and decay (God forbid if I am mistaken) ...
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 5 November 2013 10: 23
    +4
    I recalled one episode explaining why radicalists so graciously accept and do not fight pedophiles and homosexuals from geyropov and the USA. It’s like there was a case in Qatar or Yemen, they wrote in the news, the old fat rich Muslim was given to his parents (here livestock) his 12-year-old daughter in marriage, he killed her on the first wedding night, breaking the hymen. Do you understand ??? !!! Radicalists offer us such a future ??? !!
    Did Allah want this ?? !!
    I used to think that all the ancient religions underwent changes except for Islam (as the theologians interpret), but in fact it turns out that the shaitan got into the minds of Muslims and the Koran is now interpreted in a completely different way than Allah would like.
    1. Basileus
      Basileus 6 November 2013 09: 19
      0
      Of course interpreted differently. The Qur'an says that you need to strive for knowledge, Salafists - that you need to live in the Middle Ages. The Quran clearly says that the infidels are pagans, Salafists (and behind them those who benefit, our Natsiks, for example), that these are all who are not with them. I understand that the majority of Wahhabis are uneducated masses, but how smart educated people manage to get there is a question for me.
  • pluginigor
    pluginigor 5 November 2013 10: 24
    +4
    It is necessary to introduce a tower, for acts of terrorism and preparation for them.
  • Lone wolf
    Lone wolf 5 November 2013 10: 34
    +4
    "Soviet Muslims, like other citizens of the Union, built spaceships, aircraft carriers and cruisers, icebreakers, hundreds of civil and military aircraft, nuclear power plants, received the best education in the world, became scientists and engineers, teachers and doctors, together with their Russian brothers they beat Hitler's hordes and defeated the mujahideen in Afghanistan. They built the best order in the world. "
    that is true, that is true! Now this is not and will not be ...
  • Alex_T
    Alex_T 5 November 2013 10: 45
    11
    The experience of Uzbekistan is indicative on this topic (perhaps the only one from which an example should be taken). In the early 90s, Uzbekistan began to actively flirt with Turkey, trade joint ventures appeared, and the exchange of university students began. After a couple of years, all students began to actively return, there was a rumor that they were being taught the wrong thing, the "friendship" with the Turks ended. All returned Uzbek students - guilty, innocent, "wolf ticket", even the military department was not taken, and no state. posts in the future. Then there were real attempts at a military coup d'etat of Karimov's power by the Islamists (events in the Fergana Valley, on the border with Kyrgyzstan), after which a real "witch hunt" began. Now in RU, the accusation of Wahhabism and religious extremism is worse than the accusation of drug trafficking and banditry, for the accusation it is enough to "find" the relevant literature from the suspect. Its own "Islamic University" was opened in Tashkent. As a result, now in the reports from Syria, among the extremist mercenaries there are Russians, Georgians, Kazakhs, Turks, Europeans, ... but not Uzbeks.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 5 November 2013 12: 08
      +2
      Quote: Alex_T
      but not Uzbeks.

      there is a friend and they are. (and the prosecutor is here ... that's it, come in daragoi (Caucasian captive)))) .......
  • poccinin
    poccinin 5 November 2013 11: 47
    0
    it is necessary to take emergency measures now, or maybe the authorities are waiting for "RUSSIAN BUNT" because the Russians can endure for a long time and then. no one will say hello. they will not disassemble. who is who. a total "struggle" will begin. Americans and England do not understand this. now is not the 19th century. everyone will get nuts.
  • mountain
    mountain 5 November 2013 12: 49
    +3
    Declare Saudi Arabia as the enemy number ONE. Already a lot of shit from this small, smelly country. Declare a Wahhabi hunt. To build not the end of the camp, but the leper colony, as for leprosy in due time. And therapy, hard work.
  • Alex_T
    Alex_T 5 November 2013 12: 53
    +2
    Quote: smersh70
    Quote: Alex_T
    but not Uzbeks.

    there is a friend and they are ....

    Thanks for the amendment, I looked more carefully. According to http://trueinform.ru/modules.php?file=article&name=News&sid=15362 and http://www.fssb.su/research/research-reviews/428-inostrannye-naemniki-v-sirii.ht

    ml, the number of killed Uzbek mercenaries is estimated at 40-60 people (the number of residents of Uzbekistan in 2013 - 29 people), which is comparable to the number of mercenaries from Tatarstan 994-600 people (the number of residents of Tatarstan is 30 people). You must admit that Uzbekistan looks good, especially since among those 50-3 killed, there are probably those who were hired not for the ideas of Wahhabism, but "purely for money." For comparison, the number of "Russian" mercenaries from the North Caucasus is estimated at 822-038 people, Ukraine (with a population of 40) 60-250 people, Azerbaijanis (population 300) 45-553 people.
  • Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 5 November 2013 13: 32
    +1
    The picture of the impending threat is already clear to everyone, and in our state there are open days. There is no meaningful border control. No one knows exactly how many people are entering, who they are, what they are transporting, for what purpose they came here. A mess in one word! One gets the impression that someone at the top is very happy with such a mess. Or has the establishment of the "Russian Caliphate" on our territory become a state policy (task) ?!
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 5 November 2013 13: 38
    +2
    It is necessary to proceed to the gradual formation of a completely independent “Russian Islam”, free from the influence of alien conceptual and ideological centers, when the spiritual leaders of Muslims of Russia are brought up and educated in Moscow, Kazan, Ufa, Orenburg, become patriots of their homeland, ready for a “holy war” against any enemy of Russia, as during the years of World War II.
    All this is necessary unconditionally, but it is in perspective. But now, in my opinion, it is necessary that the most competent, educated representatives of traditional Islam could conduct some kind of on-site lectures or seminars in the republics of the North Caucasus and not only. Provide them with good security at the time of arrival in the same Ingushetia, Dagestan, Kabardino-Balkaria, for example, and an audience of university students. Although I think that wanting to listen would be enough. It would be nice to organize some kind of TV channel for believers, not necessarily Muslims. This would be a big step towards the universal enlightenment of believers who could actually see and hear the good neighborly and respectful attitude of all religions towards each other. And for the purpose of general education of the population about Islam and its values ​​(just like the education of Muslims about Christianity), it would be useful. People could see real Islam and not be judged only by radicals, which are constantly shown on television.
    It should be noted that Wahhabi is not necessarily a hijab, a beard and a fanatic look. A convinced Wahhabi in our society may well get an education in Oxford and Cambridge, work in a government agency, a bank, and sit in the local legislative assembly.
    Everything is so, probably there are among them and quite educated. But it seems to me that this is my personal opinion that such educated people become the tip of the iceberg. Of course, they must be fought with all means. But the bulk are not very educated, and mostly unemployed or students who preach their extremist views, give quite real examples from our daily lives — corruption, unemployment, etc., and press justice in their sermons. I think that the eradication of these problems, corruption, etc., will greatly reduce the number of potential supporters of extremists.
  • Semurg
    Semurg 5 November 2013 15: 52
    +4
    at the expense of "Russian Islam" I did not understand the author there is a ready-made Islam of the "Hanafi madhhab" and the like that have long existed on the territory of Russia. Why invent a bicycle with "Russian Islam"
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 5 November 2013 16: 01
      +3
      Most likely, the author simply does not understand such subtleties and by "Russian" means normal peace-loving Islam and not all manifestations of extremist sects.
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 5 November 2013 16: 35
        +3
        Quote: Prisoner
        Most likely, the author simply does not understand such subtleties and by "Russian" means normal peace-loving Islam and not all manifestations of extremist sects.

        maybe you’re right that the author is not on the topic of the current in Islam, but writes on the topic of Islam. It turns out I did not read the book, but I did not like it laughing may be wrong.
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 5 November 2013 16: 44
          +4
          Quote: Semurg
          maybe you’re right that the author is not on the topic of the current in Islam, but writes on the topic of Islam. It turns out I did not read the book, but I did not like it, maybe I'm mistaken.

          Well, after a series of articles and a bunch of negative comments regarding Islam in general, for me it’s as if they’d call me whatever they like in the furnace stop although i'm muslim, apparently you too wink
          Well, then, there is sound grain in the article, so I plus
        2. Grbear
          Grbear 5 November 2013 17: 34
          +2
          Respected Semurg, if Wahhabi dogmas contradict traditional Islam, then why are they allowed to read sermons in the mosque. Why is the highest Muslim clergy not being cleansed (apart from the murders of muftis, they are cleaning you). It is one thing to preach in a mosque - the FSB will intervene = religious persecution, another thing is reading in an apartment = immediately subversive activity. Aren't you yourself avoiding the collision? By giving the secular authorities the right to "rake" the consequences.

          Questions however.
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          2. Semurg
            Semurg 5 November 2013 21: 56
            +3
            in Kazakhstan, Wahhabis do not give sermons in mosques to read (there used to be something like disputes between traditionalists and neophytes now it wasn’t) carried out the certification of mullahs of all leftists. The highest clergy were first cleaned. What collisions are we talking about? should I beat them? I only say to my children and grandchildren that I consider it good or bad, and they decide for themselves to accept it or not. Secular power is responsible for everything that happens in the state, and it’s the power (if there is no water in the tap it’s not the Jews who are to blame, but specific local officials) Somehow the respected Big Bear.
            1. de_monSher
              de_monSher 6 November 2013 01: 27
              +2
              conducted a certification of the mullahs of all the left


              In Uzbekistan - the same thing. Snot, just, no need to chew, and that's it. Cleanse Russia from the Wahhabi infection.
  • kaktus
    kaktus 5 November 2013 16: 10
    +1
    The author is right, article + smile
  • DZ_98_B
    DZ_98_B 5 November 2013 16: 10
    +2
    When the USSR prays, there wasn’t much time. It was necessary to work, otherwise you will ring 3 years for parasitism. And the Ministry of Internal Affairs did not sit with the KGB either, they could provide about 5 years for anti-Soviet activity. What is happening now? Normally everything, the Islamists do not yell down with Putin, they just yell kill the Russians. For the FSB and for the police, this is not a crime. Here is Kvachkov’s enemy, he encroached on the holy ... on Chubais.
  • moskal68
    moskal68 5 November 2013 16: 50
    +1
    The government probably forgot that we have a secular state. Hence the Orthodox priests dictating from the TV what we should wear and how to behave. And the deliberate nature of Islam is from here. Who will remember - during the USSR, the Lavrushnikas blocked their asses with Prospect Mira? For example, I do not remember this.
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 5 November 2013 17: 10
    +2
    Quote: a52333
    Hard to complement. The author himself gives the necessary answers as part of the article.
    1. It is necessary to form Russian Islam, not Russian. but Russian.
    2. Visas to CA.
    3. Jammer (oh, a beautiful operating time - Lotus in Ukraine).
    4. Sponsor must be chopped. the root cause is he.

    A good plan, but the execution of all this requires state will.
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 5 November 2013 17: 44
    +1
    Gentlemen in the Kremlin are apparently blinded and deaf. Wahhabis have long been raising their heads in the country, and already part of the local elite has gone over to their side, and they have all the grace. And it would be less for our Orthodox Church to engage in secular and material wealth and to set an example of their flock in love for Russia and spirituality, as in 1612.
  • moskal68
    moskal68 5 November 2013 18: 21
    -3
    Church in the ass! Clear signs of a manifestation of faith must be prohibited. You believe it is good, but only in yourself. Not the ass to the top of the mosque, not with the icon around the church. But modest.
  • 1 Alexander 1
    1 Alexander 1 5 November 2013 18: 34
    +2
    I think so, Syria will fall behind her, Iran, crowds of bearded will go to the Caucasus, there they are likely to meet with flowers. The Americans will leave Afghanistan leaving the spirits and bases and weapons, the spirits will become bored to go to Tajikistan and further, and all these terrorist cells inside our country will be very noisy with explosions. There will be a War in Russia (both inside the Country and beyond its borders) The West is now doing everything for this! As for the Caucasian fighters, it was necessary in the second Chechen war not to feed them, but to put them in isolation and strict!
    PS Our siloviki cannot soak all these bearded just because we are a civilized country and we have laws, and suddenly something is wrong and other countries are scandalous, and these bastards of extremism have one law dying infidels.
  • Stonewall
    Stonewall 5 November 2013 19: 39
    0
    The fact that the so-called power does not solve this issue is not surprising. She doesn't care about us all for a long time. She had long prepared nests for herself, where she would dump in case of something. Another thing is surprising, all over the world this Muslim garbage is going on. Will these nests save overbearing extortionists? There, they certainly won’t save the money. Isn’t it easier to fence your house?
  • samoletil18
    samoletil18 5 November 2013 20: 02
    0
    If everyone knows everything, the special services are in the know, but no one does anything, then there is only one conclusion: betrayal.
    Interestingly, 75 years after the next revolution, the media will again begin to talk about the beautiful, honest, smart, fair elite, which was overthrown by the world behind the scenes with the help of traitors from a sealed wagon or hold, supported by a stupid, uneducated, unjust and cruel people?
    Watch the movie "Two Lives". I did not find any differences between the current "Elite" and Toy. Well, the acting is super.
  • moskal68
    moskal68 5 November 2013 20: 38
    0
    You are stupid people. I do not blaspheme God or, say, faith in him. And the institute of the Russian Orthodox Church itself. However, the churches are free to break their foreheads in churches. Their right.
  • Frenzzze
    Frenzzze 5 November 2013 21: 38
    +1
    Until they clean the upper echelons of power, nothing will change.
  • kargrom
    kargrom 5 November 2013 22: 00
    +1
    Russia-France, the victory is ours ...
  • moskal68
    moskal68 5 November 2013 23: 15
    0
    And what is our boxer? It hurts a little like a Russian ...
    1. kargrom
      kargrom 6 November 2013 00: 16
      +1
      Yes, it’s not Allen Delon either ...
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 5 November 2013 23: 24
    +1
    <<< Secondly, the Russian society and government must realize the full depth of the threat from the "Islamic project" and its scale. Islamism is a non-negotiable ideology and system, it was created for war and the destruction of "infidels", including Muslim traditionalists. In addition, a link between jihadists and the protest movement is possible. ....... in Russia, the Wahhabis, Tabligans, "Muslim brothers", Hizb ut-Tahrirites and others, ..... act practically as a united front. >>>
    It turns out that we again found ourselves, as they say, "in the fools"! As in the past times of Russian history, we fell into a clever trap prepared over the course of many years by our "partners" by the crap NAGLOSAKS, who imposed new value priorities on our not very resisting power elite, the main ones being unbridled enrichment and consumption! And in the meantime, laying under the very foundation of the Russian civilization (hiding behind all sorts of "reboots" and other shitty chatter and using the new principles of unlimited freedom, tolerance and "humanism" imposed on the Russian society) SUCH BOMB that will explode more than hundreds of nuclear warheads! I. most importantly, it is ALREADY TICKING: the introduction of Islamic radicalism in Russia, as it turns out, is already in the third stage (coming into power) and will soon proceed to the fourth - the CAPTURE OF POWER (first locally, then everywhere)! And where are our law enforcement officers? Where are our special services - the heirs of the mighty KGB, GRU? Finally, where is our power? Are we going to chew liberal tolerant snot instead of drastic measures!
  • PUHACH
    PUHACH 6 November 2013 00: 19
    +1
    Quote: smersh70
    Quote: Alex_T
    but not Uzbeks.

    there is a friend and they are. (and the prosecutor is here ... that's it, come in daragoi (Caucasian captive)))) .......
  • Tetros
    Tetros 6 November 2013 00: 25
    0
    Honestly, the USSR and Russia play the US game according to their rules. This was destroyed by the USSR (thanks to Gorbachev) and perhaps Russia will be destroyed. This + corruption + indecision of power is a disastrous mixture.

    If a normal leader stood at the helm of the USSR in difficult times, the first thing he would do was frighten OPEC or bomb some of their capacities to hell to keep oil prices at an acceptable level. But in the end, the US plan worked (depreciation of oil) and the USSR, depending on the proceeds from the sale of oil, collapsed. But Gorbatom just had not to flirt with the West and care primarily about the interests of the USSR and its peoples.

    Now the situation is such that oil prices will not be able to drop, but now we are crushed by instability in neighboring countries and the invasion of Islamic radicals. We spend enormous forces on counteraction. But you just need to start fighting precisely with the source of the problem. And she, as you know, lies on a small desert territory of the UAE, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Well, of course, this is in addition to the main source, but it is too tough for us. In any case, a strong-willed decision by the leadership is needed, and the people will support the government with this initiative.
  • de_monSher
    de_monSher 6 November 2013 01: 22
    +1
    + Article. A man - well done. Nikki drooling and snot, and no religious chauvinism - everything is clear. The government policy of Russia in the field of religion should be based on such a doctrine. Excellent painted, author. Shake your hand.
  • stamm1960
    stamm1960 6 November 2013 04: 10
    0
    Whatever the overseas ideologists say, not every difficult situation has a humane, civilized way out. I believe that this is exactly the situation now. The outlook is negative.
  • Savva30
    Savva30 6 November 2013 18: 10
    0
    Of great concern is the fact that the well-known Islamic scholar and fighter against Islamism on the "information front" Rais Suleymanov, the prosecutor's office of Tatarstan issued a warning "about the inadmissibility of extremist activity." Late yelling, somebody helped this person ???
  • old rats
    old rats 6 November 2013 20: 27
    +1
    and mine can be made simpler:
    if I’m not mistaken, the Wahhabists Muslims themselves are called sectarians.
    we tighten the punishment for the creation and participation in the activities of totalitarian sects, then (based, among other things, on the conclusion of prominent, both domestic and foreign Islamic figures), we recognize Wahhabism as a dangerous totalitarian sect and persecute anyone who preaches Wahhabism in full growth. we will follow not as a Muslim (!) but as a dangerous representative of a barbaric totalitarian sect. and tough. for any manifestation. at the same time, in the media, in the official speeches of state representatives, they should not be mentioned anywhere as Muslims. only "sectarians", only "Wahhabists". gradually to inform people, to instill in the consciousness that they are not Muslims.
    so that a stereotype is worked out among all (among Muslims) Muslims are good, Wahhabists are evil.
    for our country, where there are many Muslims, this is important, we should not push them away from us.
    Well, with Saudi Arabia you need to solve something. with Kator the same.
    I am sure if it’s good to think over everything, the problem is solved.
    1. I think so
      I think so 7 November 2013 00: 43
      +1
      Any problem can be solved ... if you know what you need to solve, how to solve it, and SOLVE it, and not chew the snot like the current government. I think you can solve everything without prohibiting anyone from spreading rot ... how? You just need to put YOUR RELIABLE person at the head of ANY sect and UNSTEADY TO CONTROL it. And if they do not fulfill the requirements to remove, clean, plant ... and all ... There will be many sects, BUT ALL of them will be led by people who will not contribute to extremism, identify potential extremists and ... but where do you go to clean, plant, convince ... Only in this way ... All other paths are the path to confrontation, and confrontation has never ended in good ...
      As Vysotsky sang:
      "Well, how did we miss the place of the shah ?! -
      The descendants will not forgive us for this.

      The shah signed in complete inability.
      Here take it - and replace it!
      Where to get? We have any second in Turkmenistan -
      Ayatollah, and even Khomeini! ... "
  • I think so
    I think so 7 November 2013 00: 28
    0
    With such an indistinct national policy (or its complete absence), as now in Russia, the hour is not far off when Russia will blaze ... and bandits will flock here, like in Syria ... and then China, in order to prevent the US intervention in Russia, will propose to destroy the Russian and chemical and nuclear (at the same time) weapons ... and then China will become America's "best friend" ... until it is sprayed ... Boomerang will return ... no matter how far and "cunning" it is thrown ...
  • ko88
    ko88 7 November 2013 00: 35
    0
    I read today in the news feed: "Putin has his own views on the visa regime, he is against it." Sometimes one gets the impression that the government is really doing everything to the detriment of the people on purpose.