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Israel is furious with American leaks about the attack on the Syrian air defense base

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Israel is furious with American leaks about the attack on the Syrian air defense baseIsrael is “enraged” by the fact that representatives of the American administration confirmed the fact that a missile attack on the air defense base in Latakia was inflicted by the IDF air force.


Israel has never officially recognized such attacks on Syrian territory.

A spokesman for the US government said in an interview with CNN that he confirms the Israeli aviation strike on cargo with missiles and equipment intended for the transfer to Hezbollah.

The Israeli television channel 10 quotes a representative of the Israeli government, who called such American statements "scandalous" and pointed out that such leaks are "unthinkable" in relations between the allies.

Israeli TV's 2 channel circulated a statement that the leak was made "right from the White House."

Military analyst for the second channel, Roni Daniel, stated that the behavior of the Obama administration is "incomprehensible." Daniel pointed out that the silence of Israel gave room for maneuver to President Bashar Assad and did not force him to respond immediately.

But the behavior of the Americans "pushes Assad closer and closer to the point at which he can no longer swallow such attacks, and will be forced to respond."

Daniel comments bitterly: “A powerful Israeli response will follow the reaction of Asad, and then the administration will be able to clap its hands - finally it managed to make a very big explosion.”
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  1. Asgard
    Asgard 5 November 2013 07: 05
    34
    The most powerful weapon is an information weapon ....
    What are we witnessing ....
    The people, the "rulers", the electorate are completely illiterate)))
    What are info-throws about attacks on a defenseless slanting Azerbaijani boy in a bus by Russian nationalists))))
    neighing .... but most took it at face value!?!?!?

    The same ficus, but the other side of the bombing by the Jews of Syria ...
    This means that the ONE-reserve option with the THIRD WORLD WAR on zeroing debts is CONSIDERED SERIOUSLY ...
    Brzezinski called for several families to leave Israel!?!?!?
    Someone out there in the country's leadership stated that We have nuclear weapons and finally we’ll hit the door very hard ....

    And the "bastards" will do ..
    That's what country needs to be disarmed))
    And IT is in her interests ...
    Since SOON will not be the country that Stalin created ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 November 2013 07: 25
      37
      But the behavior of the Americans "pushes Assad closer and closer to the point at which he can no longer swallow such attacks, and will be forced to respond."
      That's how Americans are to blame for the fact that Assad will respond to Israeli aggression. Israel is not to blame here at all, Israel is bombing, but this is not a reason for a retaliatory strike wink Hit in the back and ran away ....... It does, only a coward!
      Zhenya Pupyrchaty AU, what do you say now? Israel had the right to strike, yes, if it had, why doesn’t it want to recognize what it had the right to?
      1. atalef
        atalef 5 November 2013 07: 40
        -4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But the behavior of the Americans "pushes Assad closer and closer to the point at which he can no longer swallow such attacks, and will be forced to respond."
        That's how Americans are to blame for the fact that Assad will respond to Israeli aggression. Israel is not to blame here at all, Israel is bombing, but this is not a reason for a retaliatory strike wink Hit in the back and ran away ....... It does, only a coward!
        Zhenya Pupyrchaty AU, what do you say now? Israel had the right to strike, yes, if it had, why doesn’t it want to recognize what it had the right to?

        Hi Sasha! Well, firstly, if Israel also bombed it, once again, then I’m blowing for whom, for whom, and for the Syrians, it’s not a secret, the fact that the States made this public - this only says one thing, that America and we have several different goals. After their failure with a blow, the states are apparently trying to ignite the war, at our expense. Their goal is to remove Assad, ours, to prevent weapons from reaching Hezbollah, and Assad is not a problem for us, therefore, merging this with the press, they understand that Assad will (possibly) face a hopeless situation, he will be forced to take steps to do what will end - understandably. They want to remove Assad with our hands - the bolt to them is empty they themselves deal with it
        Well, what about stabbed in the back - it was you who laughed, remember the bombing by unknown planes in the Kodori Gorge, each country has its own tasks and they are often not intended for wide publicity, Assad has been bombed 8-9 times, and not once except for air defense depots and It didn’t affect anything else with yakhonts. Once again I say that the states, having made these data public, want to drag us into a big showdown, and remove Assad (according to
        by the way, and Geneva2) is slipping. Let Assad do it themselves, he does not bother us
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 November 2013 07: 55
          11
          Quote: atalef
          ! Well, firstly, if Israel also bombed, once again, then I’m blowing for anyone, for whom, and for the Syrians, it’s not a secret,

          Sanya is great! Do not sleep, strange what
          Quote: atalef
          and for the Syrians, this is not a secret,

          Well, the Syrians could have remained silent. But Israel, that reared up if it has nothing to do?
          Quote: atalef
          this only says one thing: America and we have slightly different goals.

          Overthrow Assad, common goals! Sanya is for you a mere mortal, the world consists of evil and good, and for politicians, the worse, the better. You do not need destabilization and terrorism along the borders of Israel, and your government welcomes this.
          Quote: atalef
          mouth Assad themselves are engaged, he does not bother us

          I will not comment above, but here it is ??????? How then can your words be compared with the words of politicians who are on the side of the terrorists? It was already here, well, I laid out or you didn’t read what kind of nonsense yours was, well, for whom did you vote there.
          1. atalef
            atalef 5 November 2013 09: 03
            -1
            SANYA, I’m writing from a mobile phone, therefore, in short, Israel is not interested in the downfall of Assad, and the fact that politicians say that they want to hear the ears of a big brother, I say again, in Hebrew (not English), In the news and comments like politicians and various poly correspondents are nowhere to be heard that Izrs is only interested in Assad’s fall, are you really screaming that you’ll be bombing? only air defense and yachts (the fact that Hezbollah requires Assad to pay for the war on their side) None of the bombing was carried out neither the Air Force bases nor tank or anything else that could prevent Assad to wet the bandyukov (to defend anti-aircraft defense against the SSA is not fighting) look wider and trust me and Igoryanich, us, what should you lie to?
            1. Bashkaus
              Bashkaus 5 November 2013 12: 16
              +1
              , Israel is not interested in the downfall of Assad, but what politicians say is what the big brother’s ears want to hear
              I don’t know how in Israel, but here in Russia people who acted to please the “big brother” were called sycophants. And we always had a sense of our own dignity and independence)))
              1. atalef
                atalef 5 November 2013 13: 30
                +7
                full of self-esteem, with a complete lack of fawning, such politicians are only in Russia
            2. Asan Ata
              Asan Ata 5 November 2013 15: 14
              +3
              The Turks supplied the checkers with inscriptions in Hebrew, or what?
            3. MIKHAN
              MIKHAN 5 November 2013 20: 04
              +2
              We are all "not interested", "we do not want a conflict" ...

              And the most important observation bully :
              , In the news and comments of both politicians and various political correspondents, you will not hear anywhere that Izrs is interested in the fall of Assad,
              That's exactly what it says! Israel is the most "peace-loving" point in the world .. Near the wailing wall they only sob for the dead Arabs (it is not clear from whom .. and where.) We have already cured half of Syria ..! Now we have agreed with the Saudis to jointly and free of charge treat the Syrian people! Here are just observations and some emotions .. (but no hatred ..)
          2. smersh70
            smersh70 5 November 2013 09: 05
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Overthrow Assad, common goals!

            Hi Alexander! Well, let's say the goal is clear !!!! and where did Assad and his air defense look ... so this same air defense base was ... even one plane was shot down or damaged ... nothing of that .... how many do not strengthen Assad. .... anyway, everything goes under the bombing or bearded men capture .....
          3. atalef
            atalef 5 November 2013 09: 34
            +4
            In general, someone thought, why did the States merge this Old? Surely not to show the steepness of Israel, think wider
        2. domokl
          domokl 5 November 2013 08: 49
          +8
          Quote: atalef
          , the states publishing this data want to drag us into a major showdown,

          It’s logical. Only the position of your government is not clear. By attacking foreign territory (and you must admit, violation of all international treaties), Israel provokes retaliatory actions. It’s clear that talking about terrorists is just a beautiful fairy tale. There are terrorists, but they are armed with other weapons. Otherwise, rockets would fly toward Israel. And for some reason, old water pipes will fly.
          This incident, I think, should make the Israelis ponder. And who is responsible for the fact that Arabs and Jews still can’t coexist normally ...
          1. atalef
            atalef 5 November 2013 09: 08
            -10 qualifying.
            Well, to begin with, there are no agreements, Syria and I are at war, until now, Israel does not provoke retaliatory actions, so it doesn’t want to be heard (like Assad, mind you) But who wants to force Assad to answer and run into it is really not clear
            1. their
              their 5 November 2013 10: 05
              +5
              Put yourself in Syria's shoes, they will bomb you when terrorists slaughter your population. And then they will say to you, "And we have no peace with them and there is no agreement."

              Do not do to others what you do not wish for yourself.
              1. rero
                rero 5 November 2013 12: 04
                -5
                Israel didn’t bomb Siriu so simple because of a whim, there are good reasons for it .. Israel warned more than once and began to cry that it was destroying the bruises of Hizbalo’s vivozimiya from Syria. Every time, when Israel had fixed such loads, it destroyed them. so there was no need for assad hostile acts against Israel and no one will evo the bambit. everything is simple ..
            2. The Indian Joe
              The Indian Joe 5 November 2013 10: 46
              +6
              Israel with Syria at war, still
              - as far as I know, a ceasefire was signed - which you Israelis violated ... angry
              1. rero
                rero 5 November 2013 12: 11
                -1
                Syria has always violated the categories, Syriac’s hands are hurt by a lot of Israeli blood; Syria Padderzed all Palestinian terrorist organizations, including Hamas, who betrayed the Evo in an inconsequential conflict. not a violation of the dagavor, but rather the turning of the fire? Ironically, Syria destroys such methods of the terror of the cathedral and he financed himself and financed the desiathilets against Israel.
              2. faraon
                faraon 5 November 2013 20: 59
                -1
                Well, what about the ceasefire here, you are wrong. only for the civil war. and for 2.5 years this ceasefire has never been violated by Syria. To such an extent that they started shelling the UN from the Syrian side. What’s Israel’s response to? in response. Well, as for the bombing, that someone suffered from the local population - no, who suffered from military servicemen - no. Israel destroyed the air force base, tanks, air defenses, no. so what is the noise and cry with Syria there are no agreements , about peace and cooperation however there is a direct link on President Assad is informed about the plastic channels, through intelligence channels. (therefore, he is not indignant). Do you think that Hezbollah is such a fraternal army that helps Assad defeat the enemies of Syria, you are mistaken. Syria for Hezbollah is the rear where you can escape from retaliation , a base where you can upgrade, a bank that receives funds for Jihad. Naturally, it requires payment for its services. Assad pays with weapons while knowing that Israel is closely monitoring any movement of Hezbollah’s weapons. ategicheskih plans does not allow weapons to go beyond Syria.
                So what treacherous blows to Assad’s back are in question. He is warned about the consequences and there let him decide what is best for him.
                Assad is well aware that it is enough for Israel to enter this war, that in a month it will be the territory of Israel, naturally, it will not be there as president anymore. All the gangs of the formation will end their existence.
            3. Bashkaus
              Bashkaus 5 November 2013 12: 20
              +1
              , Israel does not provoke retaliatory action - so it doesn’t want publicity those. you want to say that if I publicly bang you with a headgear, it will provoke a response (in this case, self-defense), and if I quietly call in the gateway, where in complete silence I will take a gop-stop, after which I will straighten your tie and letting go of the world wakes up to be considered a normal dialogue not provoking aggression?
              1. atalef
                atalef 5 November 2013 19: 12
                +2
                Quote: Bashkaus
                and if I quietly call into the gateway, where in complete silence I will take a gop-stop, after which I will straighten your tie and let go in peace, will it be considered a normal dialogue not provoking aggression?

                Everywhere has its own rules of the game and on BV the same. You ask why Assad denies? Really think. that in order to cover Israel. Yes, there are rules in chaos, Israel does not violate its own rules, Assad, if he violates and comes across, he simply denies. Neither he nor we need publicity. The USA is draining this info trying to pit us openly. Hezbollah helps Assad, Assad must pay the bills (or do you think Hezbollah is only fighting from allied convictions?) No, in return, it requires advanced weapons - as air defense and land-based weapons (like Yakhont) Assad is forced to give. but the condition is simple (like Lend Lease in the Second World War) - pickup. I gave, further your problems, of course Israel is bombing (in fact, Hezbollah’s weapons) - as a result, Assad has fulfilled its part of the deal. Israel - the same did not give it to Hezbollah, and it seems to suit him and us. I won’t even be surprised. that from the Syrian General Staff headquarters this information is being drained to us.
                No one needs publicity. By merging this, the United States hopes that Assad will respond, and then we will get involved completely. Neither him nor Assad need this --- but only to the States. Here is the alignment
        3. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 5 November 2013 11: 59
          +3
          Do you see the source of the news? In no one world media or evening news did not pass info about missile attacks. Remember earlier there were blows to the column and to the warehouses. All channels were trumpeted for a week, and then silence. The news appeared on CNN, then it was erased, and also links to the Lebanese channel, and he referred to a non-existent Syrian site.
          1. atalef
            atalef 5 November 2013 19: 15
            -1
            Quote: Sith Lord
            Do you see the source of the news? In no one world media or evening news did not pass info about missile attacks. Remember earlier there were blows to the column and to the warehouses. All channels were trumpeted for a week, and then silence. The news appeared on CNN, then it was erased, and also links to the Lebanese channel, and he referred to a non-existent Syrian site.

            Is it really not clear why, but because, apart from the Amers, nobody is interested in disclosing this (by the way, Russia, as well as the delivery of the same Hezbollah Yahonts) is a violation of the end-user certificate (who knows what this is about)
        4. Bashkaus
          Bashkaus 5 November 2013 12: 12
          +5
          Assad has been bombed for 8-9 times, and it’s never affected anything other than warehouses with air defense and Yakhonts,
          Are you friends with logic or what? One gets the impression that you either do not understand the meaning of the words that you say, or you are openly hypocritical.
          Air Defense and Yakhont is an air and sea shield of the country.
          I have a direct question for you, to which I want to get a direct, not twisted, answer.
          If Israel is not going to destroy Syria, then why is it destroying the shield with which Syria is hiding?
          Immediately ahead of you finally the rotten statement repeated by you as a mantra "we do not want these systems to go to Hizbala" and will reduce it to NO.
          If you really stood up for Hezbollah, you would not destroy warehouses in Syria, from which weapons "possibly" could fall into the hands of Hezbollah, but would hit specifically at the columns of this equipment as soon as it crossed the Syrian border or really fell into the hands of Hizbala.
          But you are destroying the warehouses of Syria itself, this is your insolent hypocrisy worthy of charity.
          1. rero
            rero 5 November 2013 12: 23
            -6
            and it’s good that we are destroying .. Syria is an enemy and it’s not falling here .. it’s a good thing that these systems don’t get pissed off by the hands of Hizbali here and you are cunning .. in the presence of Hizbali, it’s eating anti-punitive systems, so that your assertion is meaningless and apasenia israeli
          2. atalef
            atalef 5 November 2013 19: 27
            +1
            Quote: Bashkaus
            I have a direct question for you, to which I want to get a direct, not twisted, answer.
            If Israel is not going to destroy Syria, then why is it destroying the shield with which Syria is hiding?

            this is the weaponry that Hezbollah is trying to get (notice not the Lebanese army. but Hezbollah 0 in general, in Russian terminology, is illegal armed groups and an organization that the world’s half recognize as terrorist

            Quote: Bashkaus
            Immediately ahead of you finally the rotten statement repeated by you as a mantra "we do not want these systems to go to Hizbala" and will reduce it to NO.

            No need to negate. Yakhontas are capable of destroying Israeli gas platforms (they are within reach of 0, given that 60% of Israel’s electricity is produced by gas, interruptions in supply will automatically shut down almost half of the capacities (I’m not even talking about ships), but they have the means to combat - of course there are no platforms
            Air defense systems - capable of keeping the entire north of Israel on target --- again I repeat Hezbollah is not part of the Lebanese armed forces and is not subordinate to the Lebanese Ave.- draw a conclusion

            Quote: Bashkaus
            If you really stood up for Hezbalah like that, you would not destroy warehouses in Syria, from which weapons "possibly" could fall into the hands of Hezbollah, but would hit specifically at the columns of this equipment as soon as it crossed the Syrian border


            Absolutely empty reasoning. to start chasing each truck or bombing it while they are in one place, this time, and secondly from the point of view of operational plans. The IDF doesn’t give a damn what a specific Bashkauskas will think about it, it must be guaranteed to be destroyed, and where he knows better. By the way, 2 weeks ago they bombed a convoy on the territory of Lebanon (as soon as it crossed the border) - this, by the way, was covered very poorly.
        5. Pimply
          Pimply 5 November 2013 12: 45
          -1
          Quote: atalef
          After their failure with a blow, the states are apparently trying to ignite the war, at our expense. Their goal is to remove Assad, ours is to prevent weapons from reaching Hezbollah, and Assad is not a problem for us, therefore, merging this with the press, they understand that Assad (maybe) will face a hopeless situation, under pressure, he will have to do something, how it will end for him - understandably. They want to remove Assad with our hands - the bolt to them is empty they themselves deal with it


          In this case, I would look easier. The current administrations of the White House and Jerusalem have very strained relations. Then the guys just decided to annoy.
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 5 November 2013 15: 55
            +4
            Quote: Pimply
            Then the guys just decided to annoy


            Well, when, time after time, you bomb another country, sooner or later the problems will begin.
            But it’s interesting how the Israeli leadership plans to develop the country through 5-7 years, when the United States, most likely, will not be at all before the wars and not to the support? Is it all the same that we want to bomb? But the neighbors are saving up not only weapons, but also anger. And this is a dangerous business in the east.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 5 November 2013 16: 27
              -1
              Quote: Botanologist
              Well, when, time after time, you bomb another country, sooner or later the problems will begin.
              But it’s interesting how the Israeli leadership plans to develop the country through 5-7 years, when the United States, most likely, will not be at all before the wars and not to the support? Is it all the same that we want to bomb? But the neighbors are saving up not only weapons, but also anger. And this is a dangerous business in the east.

              US support began in 1969, if you don't know. And it is far from unconditional. Serious support began in 1979. And again - the United States did everything it could to put pressure on Israel. For example, the termination of the supply of aircraft in 1981 after the bombing of the Iraqi reactor, the block for retaliation against Iraq in 1991, and much more. Yes, US support is important. But have you heard the proverb - "a holy place is never empty"? China is now actively investing money in Israel, if only because Israel has enormous technological know-how. Russia is also interested in Israel - especially if the Syrian war, costing the Russian budget about $ 500 million (this is just oil products) monthly, will lead to the split of Syria, and in fact, the loss of the last foothold in the Middle East. Should I list the number of interested potential players?

              Yes, about the bombing. Syria has actively tried to fight Israel in one way or another since 1948. With your own or someone else's hands. "Well, when you bomb another country over and over again, sooner or later problems will begin." Is it really surprising that those countries that made peace with Israel do not have any problems from Israel? Some kind of mysticism.
              1. Botanologist
                Botanologist 5 November 2013 17: 12
                +2
                Quote: Pimply
                Should I list the number of interested potential players?


                There can be infinitely many potential players. But I have the impression that you are moving away from the answer. We're a little about behaviors and potential threats, aren't we?


                Quote: Pimply
                Is it really surprising that those countries that have made peace with Israel have no problems on the part of Israel? Some kind of mysticism.


                Oh, Mlyn, Russia and Japan never made peace belay or wait for the bombing? Israel will probably unconditionally support either side, huh?
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 5 November 2013 17: 29
                  0
                  Quote: Botanologist
                  Here Mlyn, Russia and Japan did not conclude a peace or wait for bombing? Israel will probably unconditionally support either side, huh?

                  I’ve already said a hundred times, I’ll repeat it for the hundredth time if you don’t understand the difference. A huge number of treaties have been concluded between Russia and Japan, which de jure mean peaceful relations. In particular: the state of war was terminated and diplomatic and consular relations of the USSR with Japan were established; After the signing of the peace treaty, the USSR was ready to consider the possibility of transferring the islands of Shikotan and the Habomai archipelago to Japan. That is, Japan confirmed the jurisdiction of the USSR over all the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin, while capitulating in 1945, and the state of war was stopped between the countries. Ratification: Japan - December 5, USSR - December 8 1956 of the year. A peace treaty is only a consolidation of a number of other documents. There was no state of ending the war between Israel and Syria. This is clearly stated in a number of documents, for example, in the document on the establishment of the line of separation.

                  Quote: Botanologist
                  There can be infinitely many potential players. But I have the impression that you are moving away from the answer. We're a little about behaviors and potential threats, aren't we?

                  Israel is constantly living among potential threats. 9 at the same time attacking states, with multiple numerical and military advantage - how do you threaten?
                  1. Botanologist
                    Botanologist 5 November 2013 21: 47
                    +3
                    Quote: Pimply
                    9 at the same time attacking states, with multiple numerical and military advantage - how do you threaten?


                    As for the military advantage, I would not be so categorical.

                    Quote: Pimply
                    Israel is constantly living among potential threats.


                    Here I am about the same. Surprisingly, instead of reducing these threats, you are doing everything possible to increase them. Masochists, or what?
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 5 November 2013 21: 52
                      -2
                      Quote: Botanologist
                      As for the military advantage, I would not be so categorical.

                      Prove with numbers

                      Quote: Botanologist
                      Here I am about the same. Surprisingly, instead of reducing these threats, you are doing everything possible to increase them. Masochists, or what?

                      Well, in general, no one increases threats. Now peace with Egypt. Jordan. the states of the Arabian Peninsula do not constitute the same problems. Palestinians are quieter than water, --- threats remain - this does not mean that there are more of them. In my opinion, it’s much simpler now and there is simply no power in Israel that can resist the military power of Israel in the region, much less threatening the existence of the country as such.
                    2. Pimply
                      Pimply 5 November 2013 22: 35
                      0
                      Quote: Botanologist

                      As for the military advantage, I would not be so categorical.

                      Oh oh Let's watch. 13 tanks, of which 10 light Gochkins, 2 Cromwell and 1 Sherman - these are Israeli armored forces at that time. 30 light aircraft. At the time of the proclamation of Israel, the Haganah managed to mobilize 45 of thousands of people capable of carrying arms, including women and adolescents; not all soldiers were able to arm: Israel had at its disposal 22 thousand rifles, 11 thousand machine guns (mostly artisanal assemblies), 1500 machine guns and 85 anti-tank rifles. Five guns and 900 mortars.

                      The Arab Legion is the most trained part of the trans-Jordanian army under the command of the former British General John Glabb in the number of 10 000 people.
                      Syria - 5000 soldier, one tank battalion and one air squadron (Harvard light attack aircraft.)
                      Egypt - two brigades, a tank battalion (Matilda and Kruseyder tanks) [18] and a volunteer group supported by the Royal Air Force of Egypt: 4 Hurricanes, near 20 Spitfires, squadron of light bomber Westland Lysander and several C-47 military transport converted for bombers; in the course of the war, up to 40 thousands of soldiers were concentrated on the Egyptian side.
                      Iraq - from 10 to 18 of thousands of soldiers, a battalion of tanks and 2 air squadrons (including 7 Sea Fury fighters).
                      Lebanon - 2500 soldiers and 2 artillery batteries.
                      The Arab Liberation Army - about 6000-7500 volunteers from Arab countries, brought together in 6 battalions. Of these, about 3-4 thousand are in Samaria.
                      Army of the Holy War - irregular formations of the Palestinian Arabs, the main actions in the Jerusalem area - about 5000 people.
                      Muslim brothers - about 1500 volunteers from Egypt, Transjordan and Syria by March 1948 of the year (the total number of members of the Brotherhood in Palestine reached 12-20 thousand people).
                      Arab militias of local subordination (an analogue of the Jewish detachments of the KhIM), dispersed over 700 — 800 settlements, numbering from 10 to 100 people in each village.
                      Let us also consider the numerical superiority? And the training of the Egyptians and Jordanians by the British (including English officers), and the Syrians by the French?

                      Quote: Botanologist
                      Here I am about the same. Surprisingly, instead of reducing these threats, you are doing everything possible to increase them. Masochists, or what?

                      Tell me, how do you propose reducing them? There have been repeated attempts at peace talks. Even in those countries with which peace agreements have been signed, the active positioning of Israel as the main enemy continues.
                      1. Botanologist
                        Botanologist 5 November 2013 23: 19
                        +1
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Let us also consider the numerical superiority?


                        I did not discuss your first wars. We're talking about today, aren't we? Stop your Jewish little things - divert conversations from the topic.

                        Quote: Pimply
                        Tell me, how do you propose reducing them?


                        I will not answer this question head-on, especially since we are talking about Arabs. But the constant attack on the neighbors with the bombing of nuclear reactors and everything that you do not like is not at all what you mean: "how do you propose to reduce them." For starters, don't increase.
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 6 November 2013 00: 13
                        0
                        Quote: Botanologist
                        I did not discuss your first wars. We're talking about today, aren't we? Stop your Jewish little things - divert conversations from the topic.

                        Your Jewish little things - well, you are already losing your temper. You said something there for anti-Semitism, and what is against it?
                        I originally spoke about the first wars. Or has something changed a lot now? You will not prompt? Well, besides the fact that Israel has become clearly stronger. I do not understand something. Or should I also guess your thoughts?


                        Quote: Botanologist
                        I will not answer this question head-on, especially since we are talking about Arabs. But the constant attack on the neighbors with the bombing of nuclear reactors and everything that you do not like is not at all what you mean: "how do you propose to reduce them." For starters, don't increase.

                        Remember, here the other day the people shouted that Syria does not have chemical weapons. It suddenly appeared.
                        Remember where the Russian Cornets ended up? In whose particular hands?
                        Recall the situation with the Scuds of Iraq?
                        With Iran, which often violated established norms? For example, taking hostages of diplomats?

                        What do you propose to do? Wait until the protector gets a gun instead of a knife?
          2. atalef
            atalef 5 November 2013 19: 29
            -1
            Quote: Botanologist
            Well, when, time after time, you bomb another country, sooner or later the problems will begin.

            Not always, why Assad is silent and even denies, did not think? The destruction of Hezbollah’s cargo in a sense meets its needs - i.e. no guarantee of Israeli intervention in the war in Syria.
            1. Botanologist
              Botanologist 5 November 2013 21: 50
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              why Assad is silent and even denies, did not think?


              It is not in Assad’s interest to twitch at Israel right now. He is not a psycho, but a very serious politician. Revenge must be laid down.

              Quote: atalef
              those. no guarantee of Israeli intervention in the war in Syria.


              When one state is bombing another, the word "guarantee" is somehow frivolous. Do you yourself believe in what you write?
              1. atalef
                atalef 5 November 2013 21: 57
                -1
                Quote: Botanologist
                It is not in Assad’s interest to twitch at Israel right now. He is not a psycho, but a very serious politician. Revenge must be laid down.

                Like 40 of previous years. and under the lying stone, port does not flow

                Quote: Botanologist
                When one state is bombing another, the word "guarantee" is somehow frivolous. Do you yourself believe in what you write?

                and on BV in general, everything is not simple and guarantees are acquired by verbiage. but real actions.
                1. Botanologist
                  Botanologist 5 November 2013 23: 23
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  Like 40 of previous years


                  Are you implying that Assad did not threaten you? Do not shoot the office, Pupyrchaty successfully proves the opposite wassat .

                  Quote: atalef
                  and on BV in general, everything is not simple and guarantees are acquired by verbiage. but real actions


                  That everything is complicated with the Arabs, I agree. Only the question of real actions somehow does not fit into the image of a peaceful Jew. Some kind of militant Zionism turns out, do not you?
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 6 November 2013 00: 02
                    -1
                    That everything is complicated with the Arabs, I agree. Only the question of real actions somehow does not fit into the image of a peaceful Jew. Some kind of militant Zionism turns out, do not you?

                    in your concept - a peaceful Jew, it’s like in Russia - a bespectacled man, with a violin that anyone can kick back, you won’t wait, we won’t be peaceful, we won’t leave us alone, we suffered, if necessary for one to demolish a soldier half a block means we’ll demolish it, we don’t need anything from the others, but we won’t be quiet and we’ll not wipe the snot, and I think all previous wars prove it, and the IDLE is in a bad condition today too, let’s tear us (I'm talking about Arabs) fuck.
    2. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 5 November 2013 07: 58
      +1
      Somewhere on the next branch, one of the compatriots Pupyrchaty threw information that it was the Turks who avenged their plane. And Israel is white and fluffy.
  2. pensioner
    pensioner 5 November 2013 07: 35
    11
    Quote: Asgard
    That's what country needs to be disarmed))

    Best-burning method, followed by decontamination repeat .
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 5 November 2013 08: 49
      +4
      Quote: retired
      Best-burning method, followed by decontamination

      It's a pity for the children - we must first take them out of the country .... But the question arises - who will accept them ???
    2. rero
      rero 5 November 2013 12: 15
      -6
      ea visa vi uze long deactivation laughing
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 5 November 2013 14: 40
        +2
        Quote: rero
        ea visa vi uze long deactivation

        As I understand it, you are laughing at yourself, because nothing is clear from your nonsense, written supposedly in Russian.
        1. rero
          rero 5 November 2013 15: 37
          -6
          you didn’t understand so much, and I’m rzu over you and over your big comments.
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 5 November 2013 18: 13
            +2
            Quote: rero
            eeyore above you
            Come on - rzi next. You won’t believe such people as you do not have enough ... Boring without you ...
    3. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 5 November 2013 12: 22
      +3
      followed by decontamination - in no case! Again, everyone who thinks they are exceptional will come. And this applies to Jews, and Arabs, and even heaps of all sorts of other Honduras.
      Burn so that for a few thousand years it was impossible not only to settle there, but even to stay for a short time. Let it be a stalker zone.
    4. In the reeds
      In the reeds 5 November 2013 13: 33
      -2
      We have already been to this movie, so we don’t rely on anyone else. Some want to protect cutlets from flies, others Jesus from the Jews, well, Shapito’s circus clowns are resting ... If Assad wanted to, we would cleanse all of Syria from shit ... But he couldn’t want it this way ... So let him catch lyuli. So far we have not destroyed the tank that he needs. But Hezbola won’t get anything, they saw our north burning. And Obama forgive God, an unprecedented gawnyuk
  3. Very old
    Very old 5 November 2013 07: 49
    10
    The question of the state of Israel is the only one, it seems, in which I am on the side of Churchill. It was necessary to drive the God-chosen people into the most southern Africa, closer to Swaziland.
    And as for the "surrendered, did not surrender" the ally, so after all - "We are Anglo-Saxons" who just did not surrender: the Poles, and the British (!!!), and other Bosch Franks ...
  4. domokl
    domokl 5 November 2013 08: 41
    +2
    Quote: Asgard
    a backup option with the THIRD WORLD WAR on zeroing debts - CONSIDERED SERIOUSLY ...

    I’m not sure what a world war is needed. Even the United States. There will be enough local nuclear conflict. The number of victims is completely unimportant. Americans still have forgiven wars, Europeans and Asians are killing each other, and Americans are cutting coupons ...
    Yes, and not geopolitical goals are being pursued ... It is the Americans who are bad right now, so the problem must be solved right now .. Each other’s slaughter will lead to huge arms purchases by all countries .. and this is a direct benefit to all sellers of this product.
  5. their
    their 5 November 2013 09: 03
    0
    As for the presence of nuclear weapons in Israel, this is generally debatable. They probably do not have it than they have. No tests have ever been carried out, and they themselves can not develop anything without the presence of Uranus and its enrichment. They do not launch the IAEA commission and all this is recognized only informally in the pro-Israeli media. Even the Israeli authorities themselves do not 100% recognize the presence of nuclear weapons, but they do not deny either.
    1. their
      their 5 November 2013 09: 42
      +5
      The Israelis have already cooperated against me, probably recorded as anti-Semites, but the information is from their Wikipedia. And now everywhere they will collectively minus me, which is generally not allowed on the site judging by the rules. But you probably can, unfasten the shekels I suppose.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 5 November 2013 10: 01
        +9
        Quote: sus
        And now everywhere they will collectively minus me, which is generally not allowed on the site judging by the rules

        Do not drift ...
        A forum member without minuses, like a student without a deuce, like a bird without wings laughing
        1. their
          their 5 November 2013 10: 08
          +2
          Yes, I do not care, I will not linger here. The Russian site serves as a propaganda platform for Israel. Apparently these guys have a share in the site or pay him for antics
      2. In the reeds
        In the reeds 5 November 2013 13: 53
        0
        Stop nobody will minus you, t. To. we know what it is ... Well, you need to understand something. The Israelis are not a Kharkov Jew, the people who knew freedom, at a high price ... And we are sitting on this resource, Russian Israelis because you are not indifferent to us, no matter how you would like to bite us
      3. atalef
        atalef 5 November 2013 19: 49
        -1
        Quote: sus
        The Israelis have already cooperated against me, probably recorded as anti-Semites, but the information is from their Wikipedia. And now everywhere will collectively minus me

        Sleep well, young fighter with Zionism, so what, and the pros for this are provided to you.
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 5 November 2013 10: 09
      +9
      Your reasoning is calming ... but ineffective. Israel itself, of course, under no circumstances can produce nuclear weapons. They do not need to develop it - they have access to all modern developments. But. For many years they have almost completely controlled the American administration, haven't they forgotten? Why do they need trials? They have American charges, American delivery vehicles, everything is tested ...
      America is exceptional with us! That is, all kinds of international non-proliferation treaties there and for a second they will not stop. So alas ...
      But the statement "Assad does not bother us" - this is really interesting! At a time when an army appears before Assad's eyes. A real combat army, the first in the Arab world since Saladin. And at this time, the Jews stupidly continue to escalate, and even the States are to blame for them. Alas, the understanding that Assad could become, despite all the past, Israel's first true ally, that it would be possible to achieve a real breakthrough and break the impasse ... No.
      The trouble is that there are no wise Jews. There is not even smart, they are smart. It's like smart ... seemingly ... but tirelessly admiring his mind. Everywhere waving the mind, like a flag, boasting of reason ... as a result, instead of real decisions, brilliant ones are always made. Well...
    3. Aleksys2
      Aleksys2 5 November 2013 11: 17
      +1
      Quote: sus
      As for the presence of nuclear weapons in Israel, this is generally debatable.

      The Israeli Atomic Energy Commission (INPP), created in 1952, is involved in the Israeli nuclear program.
      Since the beginning of the 1960, the Nahal Sorek Nuclear Research Center and the Dimon Nuclear Research Center have been operating.
      According to the report of the Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation for the 1993 year, for the production of weapons-grade nuclear materials in Israel, they primarily use a heavy water reactor and an irradiated fuel reprocessing facility that are outside the control of the IAEA. Their capacities are sufficient for the manufacture of 5-10 nuclear warheads per year. The 26 MW reactor was commissioned in 1963 with the help of France and modernized in the 1970 years. After increasing its capacity to 75-150 MW, the production of plutonium could increase from 7-8 kg of fissile plutonium per year to 20-40 kg. An installation for processing irradiated fuel was created around 1960 also with the assistance of a French company. It can produce from 15 to 40 kg of fissile plutonium per year.
      Israeli secret services are accused of secret procurement and theft of nuclear materials in other countries - the United States, Britain, France, Germany. So, in the 1986 year in the USA, the disappearance of more than 100 kg of enriched uranium was discovered at one of the plants in the state of Pennsylvania, which were supposedly shipped to Israel. Israel also acknowledged the illegal export of kraitrons from the United States in the early 1980s, an important element in the development of modern types of nuclear weapons.
      In 1986, a former employee of a research center in Dimon, Mordechai Vanunu, was kidnapped for disclosing information about Israeli nuclear weapons in Italy and then sentenced to 18 years of imprisonment.
      Since Israel’s land-based nuclear weapons, after Iran and other countries improved their missile weapons in the 1990s, became vulnerable to an enemy attack, the use of nuclear-powered submarines on board was a strategic alternative. In the middle of the 1990's, Israel ordered three specially designed submarines in Germany, which were delivered to Israel in the 1999 and 2000 years. The equipment of their missiles with nuclear warheads first became known in June 2002 of the year from a book published by Carnegie Endowment.
    4. poccinin
      poccinin 5 November 2013 12: 45
      +2
      Israel definitely has nuclear weapons and missiles and bombs. And they never admit it. They don’t sign a single document related to weapons of mass destruction. And the USA covers them because of the large Israeli lobby in Congress.
    5. Cynic
      Cynic 5 November 2013 19: 54
      +1
      Quote: sus
      As for the presence of nuclear weapons in Israel, this is generally debatable. They probably do not have it than they have.

      Recalled Golden key, or the adventures of Pinocchio
      The owl put her ear to Pinocchio's chest.
      “The patient is more likely dead than alive,” she whispered, and turned her head back one hundred and eighty degrees.
      Toad long crumpled Pinocchio with a wet paw. Thinking, she looked with bulging eyes at once in different directions. Spanked in a big mouth:
      - The patient is more likely alive than dead ...
      People’s healer Praying Mantis with dry, like grass, hands began to touch Pinocchio.
      “One of two things,” he whispered, “either the patient is alive, or he died.” If he is alive, he will remain alive or he will not remain alive. If he is dead, he can be revived or cannot be revived.

      Quote: sus
      No tests have ever been carried out, and they themselves can not develop anything without the presence of Uranus and its enrichment.

      Experienced.
      Quote: sus
      Israeli authorities themselves do not 100% recognize the presence of nuclear weapons, but do not deny either.

      But they are scared. And thanks to him, or rather to his presence, Israel still exists.
      Materiel must be respected their , just decided to participate.
      wink
  6. Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 5 November 2013 09: 04
    13
    And all the same, what kind of villains are these Israelis, Bashar al-Assad is struggling with the villains barely, and these still push him in the kidney from the side. Now, after their recognition, I definitely believe that it was they who struck.
    It will return to them stopudovo. For evil returns to the one who sows it.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 5 November 2013 12: 26
      +2
      Now, after their recognition, I definitely believe that it was they who struck
      And you had doubts about it? It’s strange.
      1. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 5 November 2013 12: 34
        +2
        Yes, I just try to believe the person (country) to the last, until it is confirmed that he is finished. And besides, the Americans always like to lie, so he doubted it.
  7. FRITZ LANG
    FRITZ LANG 5 November 2013 12: 23
    0
    With all due respect, the country that Stalin created is NOT
  8. mirag2
    mirag2 5 November 2013 16: 10
    +3
    I apologize for getting in, I wanted to say that there has already been a leak from the states about the Israeli Special Forces campaigns in Syria and the removal of wounded militants.
    1. atalef
      atalef 5 November 2013 19: 52
      -2
      Quote: mirag2
      I apologize that I climbed in, I wanted to say that there was already a leak from the states about the campaigns of Israeli special forces in Syria, and the removal of wounded militants

      Do not ask, complete lies. Or pliz a link to the Old, if it's action movies. then sorry.
      A 20-year-old Syrian citizen gave birth to a healthy boy weighing 3.2 kilograms in an Israeli hospital.

      A Syrian, a nurse by profession, went to the border when she started labor pains.

      The Syrian woman says: "I was very afraid that the birth would be complicated. I was afraid for the child. Fortunately for me, the Israeli soldiers realized that I was in terrible pain. They picked me up and took me to the hospital."

      The woman came to Israel alone, without a family and relatives. Instead, she was assisted by Israeli nurses and midwives.

      Mira Eli, a midwife at Ziv Hospital, said: "We welcomed her very warmly. This is what every woman in labor needs - and she needs even more."

      Israeli nurses from Ziv Hospital in Safed said: "After giving birth, she hugged, kissed and thanked each of us."

      The Syrian, in an interview with the second channel of Israeli TV, said: "I do not feel like in an enemy country. Everyone around me cares so much about me."

      1. mirag2
        mirag2 7 November 2013 06: 55
        0
        Already then (six months ago, he proved to the professor), I was looking for a photo, I'm sorry, atalef, now I won’t even twitch.
      2. mirag2
        mirag2 7 November 2013 06: 58
        0
        On, catch, dear, I don’t know if I’m never talking.
        This is the first come across from the British, otherwise you will accuse of bias.
        http://www.sem40.ru/index.php?newsid=233786
        1. atalef
          atalef 7 November 2013 07: 58
          0
          Quote: mirag2
          On, catch, dear, I don’t know if I’m never talking.
          This is the first come across from the British, otherwise you will accuse of bias.
          http://www.sem40.ru/index.php?newsid=233786

          the fact that the special forces are acting is understandable, that is why he and the special forces, intelligence, etc., but where about the export of fighters for treatment, in more detail, maybe these yesterday?



          The Ziv Medical Center in Safed on the evening of Wednesday, November 6, brought 2 women injured during the fighting in Syria.

          The condition of the victims is assessed by doctors as from moderate to severe, according to the radio station "Reshet Bet".

          In total, according to the latest data, 7 wounded Syrian citizens were taken to the Ziv hospital per day, including a three-year-old child in serious condition, and three to the Western Galilee hospital in Nahariya.

          Since the start of the Syrian civil war, Israeli doctors have provided medical assistance to approximately 300 Syrians.

          In general, I was already tired of treating these Syrians, why at my expense?
  • zeka102
    zeka102 5 November 2013 07: 07
    17
    What, after all .... Jews are wacked! Jackals, slyly hammer, using the support of the sky crush!
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 5 November 2013 07: 22
      +5
      And they always have it, they don’t have to wait for another one.
    2. domokl
      domokl 5 November 2013 08: 55
      +4
      Quote: zeka102
      , slyly hammering, using sky support crush!

      Why only them? And the Saudis? And Qatar? It is always beneficial for small states when they wash their faces with each other ... Israel felt its impunity thanks to the support and protection of the United States, and, suddenly, they were told, then the guys themselves try to answer for the robbery. So the threats went ... Let's get rid of the atomic bomb ... I think the Jews were shaking their knees ...
      1. clidon
        clidon 5 November 2013 09: 31
        +1
        The Jews themselves have a nuclear bomb. And the one who smells them will receive and do not indulge in it yourself. I do not think that even the Islamists have enough vigor.
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 5 November 2013 09: 34
        +6
        Quote: domokl
        , suddenly, they were told, and then the guys themselves try to answer for the robbery

        And it seems that the subsidies of the Amer’s budget for Israel are over.
        Therefore, proud and independent Jews fell into the hospitably open arms of the Saudis.
        This is SYMBIOSIS !!!
    3. their
      their 5 November 2013 09: 05
      0
      It is not the Jews who are to blame, they are being set up by their Western "partners" and their compradors in power in Israel.
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 5 November 2013 11: 59
      0
      Look at the source of the article, some website wrote.
    5. Pimply
      Pimply 5 November 2013 12: 47
      0
      Quote: zeka102
      What, after all .... Jews are wacked! Jackals, slyly hammer, using the support of the sky crush!

      What to do? Let Assad hand over weapons to Hezbollah? Or do you propose to openly take out all the warehouses?
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 5 November 2013 17: 18
        +1
        Quote: Pimply
        Let Assad hand over weapons to Hezbollah? Or do you propose to openly take out all the warehouses?


        Well, you yourself claimed that the Israeli army transferred the weapons to Palestine to Palestine, which justified a large number of Israeli ammunition on footage from Syria. Now, what, it became sad themselves, or is it such a way to lead a discussion?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 5 November 2013 17: 55
          -1
          Quote: Botanologist
          Well, you yourself claimed that the Israeli army transferred the weapons to Palestine to Palestine, which justified a large number of Israeli ammunition on footage from Syria. Now, what, it became sad themselves, or is it such a way to lead a discussion?

          Which Palestine? You are a political strategist, right? Professional. So do not bother all in one pile.

          The Middle East is an extremely weapon-rich region. In particular, Israeli weapons were captured in wars, stolen, transferred, in particular, the Army of Southern Lebanon (Lebanese Christians), etc. Do you think that in Israel, having a bunch of captured and neutral weapons of different years, transferring your own, especially with army markings? Meaning.
          From what should become sad, do not tell?
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 5 November 2013 22: 08
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            transferred, in particular, to the Army of Southern Lebanon


            Confused.

            Quote: Pimply
            From what should become sad, do not tell?


            Your household is troublesome. Just have time to bomb. I am personally wary of such a situation, so I went in with comments.

            If you are interested in my opinion, I’m not anti-Semite in any way and I think that Russia and Israel need to live together. But there are a lot of problems, and mainly in the field of perception of the world and differences in values. If we are friends with someone, then we strive to maximize the interests and understanding of our partner. You often manipulate friendship. Even now you write that the United States is the goats, they misunderstood you and in general ... And they, in general, saved you a lot not only with help, but also at the UN. And you lead the whole thing to the fact that there are no friends, but only interests. In my opinion, shitty morality, although it is very Jewish (not in the common sense, but in the mental).
            Therefore, it turns out that way - we can look for points of contact and common interests, but at some point Israel will begin to draw the boundaries "our interests are not our interests," and all over again. We're just different, that's all. And when you justify strikes on the territory of another state (and a state in a very difficult situation) with some half-century old treaties that have long been rotten, it is ridiculous to talk about morality.
            And since it is ridiculous to talk about morality, then in the Russian audience you will not find any sympathy and understanding. We, of course, are not angels, and we do not lecture you, but to deny the concept of "good" and "evil", trying to put some kind of legal quirks in this place is not the case.
            1. atalef
              atalef 5 November 2013 22: 43
              -2
              Quote: Botanologist
              that Russia and Israel need to live together

              But we are not enemies, and a visa-free regime and trade between our countries are more than once in 10 than you and Syria. As well as the presence of 400 with more than a citizen of Russia
              Quote: Botanologist
              . If we are friends with someone, then we strive to maximize the interests and understanding of our partner.

              I do not agree with you. because the figures given by me should speak for themselves
              Quote: Botanologist
              You often manipulate friendship

              How ? In my opinion, at the beginning of the conflict in Georgia. we are the only country that has ceased to sell weapons to Georgia 9 in contrast to Ukraine 0, at the same time, the appearance of the latest ATGMs in both Hezbollah and Hamas (Russian Prospect) did not find any reaction from Russia
              1. Botanologist
                Botanologist 5 November 2013 23: 31
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                the figures given by me should speak for themselves


                Well, what did you deny from what I said? What are we sincerely friends? Or that we are friends with Israel differently than with Syria? Explain what figures have refuted?

                Quote: atalef
                the appearance of the latest ATGMs in both Hezbollah and Hamas (Russian Prospect) did not find any reaction from Russia


                And what did Russia deliver the ATGM to Hezbollah? After all, how can you refute something - immediately transfer the conversation to the legal plane. And how to protect yourself - any arguments. Let's then legally: Georgia-the state? Yes. Is Hezbollah a State? Not. Is Hamas a State? Not. To whom did we deliver the anti-tank systems?
                This is the first. And secondly, I personally do not approve of our arms sales policy, including in the BV. But this is so, by the way.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 6 November 2013 00: 19
                  +1
                  Quote: Botanologist
                  And what did Russia deliver the ATGM to Hezbollah? After all, how can you refute something - immediately transfer the conversation to the legal plane. And how to protect yourself - any arguments. Let's then legally: Georgia-the state? Yes. Is Hezbollah a State? Not. Is Hamas a State? Not. To whom did we deliver the anti-tank systems?

                  Nevertheless, these organizations are accepted in Russia at the state level, in particular, the President and the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation met with them. It’s the same that Bibi would meet with Doku Umarov or Shamil Basayev. This time.
                  Two - Russia was informed that this weapon could be supplied to Hezbollah. At the request of Russia, for example, Israel cut off supplies for Georgia - the only country among the 30 that has not stopped. Russia calmly supplied weapons. We will not remember the Soviet period, right? Recall the present. Despite the fact that in the contract with Syria there was a clear ban on the transfer of arms to a third party, it got there. However, no sanctions were imposed against Syria. This is if you go to the legal plane.
            2. atalef
              atalef 5 November 2013 22: 43
              -1
              Quote: Botanologist
              . Even now you write that the United States is the goats, they misunderstood you and in general ... And they, in general, saved you a lot not only with help, but also at the UN. And you lead the whole thing to the fact that there are no friends

              There are interests. therefore we rely only on the IDF
              Quote: Botanologist
              In my opinion, shitty morality, although it is very Jewish (not in the common sense, but in the mental).

              Well, yes, Syria’s support is exclusively out of philanthropy (while in Africa, 100 dies more from hunger and wars) Russia has the same interests in Syria and nothing more
              Quote: Botanologist
              but at some point Israel will begin to draw the boundaries "our interests are not our interests",

              This is no different from Russia. she has the same interests and they are not always compatible with ours
              Quote: Botanologist
              . We are just different, that’s all.

              So are we. Others do not mean bad.
              Quote: Botanologist
              And when you justify strikes on the territory of another state (and the state in a very difficult situation) with some half-century-old treaties that have been bad for a long time, talking about morality is ridiculous.

              As well as about your claims to the Crimea. Long rotten contract. or do you have a different opinion?
              Quote: Botanologist
              And since it’s funny to talk about morality, then in the Russian audience you will not find any sympathy and understanding

              no need to talk about high morality. enough to read comments - a third latent Natsik
              Quote: Botanologist
              We, of course, are not angels, and we do not lecture you, but to deny the concept of "good" and "evil", trying to put some kind of legal quirks in this place is not the case.

              good and evil ? It is evil when Russian missiles (it seems like it’s not clear how Hamas and Hezbollah fell into the hands of), children die (Russian citizens do the same for a minute), and Russia created a commission in 2006 to find out the reasons and for 7 years, zero results.
              I would not have a problem. if it were Iranian missiles - Iran is an enemy and this is understandable. but the missiles were Russian (including those that hit the school bus (a corner from the Gaza Strip), and Russia did not react in this regard. So where is good and evil?
              1. Botanologist
                Botanologist 5 November 2013 23: 44
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                Have interests


                Yes, and I'm talking about it. Only interests, nothing about morality.

                Quote: atalef
                while in Africa from starvation and wars dies times 100 more


                I heard that when I was October. But after all, there is no reason to bomb at all if it dies less than in Africa. Or is it possible?

                Quote: atalef
                Others do not mean bad.


                Please note - I discussed only a specific fact. Your group, under the star of David, poured out all the arguments to me through discussion, starting from the formation of Israel and ending with some kind of incomprehensible lyrics. Did I say that you are bad? I just said that it’s not very beautiful of you in a particular case.

                Quote: atalef
                As well as about your claims to the Crimea. Long rotten contract. or do you have a different opinion?


                As for the Crimea, my opinion is that in ten years we will have to water a new caliphate in Crimea with napalm, and we’ll figure it out along the way. If, by this time, something intelligible remains from the square.

                Quote: atalef
                enough to read comments - a third latent Natsik


                If you look at my correspondence with New Russia or Normal, then make sure that there are not enough latent ones.

                Quote: atalef
                I would not have a problem. if it were Iranian missiles - Iran is an enemy and this is understandable. but the rockets were Russian


                Have you ever met American guns? And MANPADS are quite widely represented by stingers, and not just arrows. And now, the hashim from Jordan will climb into the same Syria. But this is a question for our beloved government. I also have a lot of them.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 5 November 2013 23: 56
                  -1
                  Have you ever met American guns? And MANPADS are quite widely represented by stingers, and not just arrows. And now, the hashim from Jordan will climb into the same Syria. But this is a question for our beloved government. I also have a lot of them.

                  unlike the kalashas or uzi which are swamped with half the world, ATGMs have a clear manufacturer and their sale falls under certain rules under the laws on the supply of weapons, Russia ratified them as well, therefore such a concept as an end-user certificate prohibiting the transfer of weapons to a third party is introduced, Syria violates this both in the part of anti-tank systems and in the part of air defense systems - which (unlike the stingers) are in the hands (of unknown type from where) of the Hezbollah and Hamas, so please do not include the misunderstanding, everything is very clear, so in ask, where is the reaction of Russia to the death of Russian citizens in Israel from Russian missiles that fell into the hands of terrorist organizations, in violation of the agreement by Syria?
            3. Pimply
              Pimply 5 November 2013 23: 44
              -1
              Quote: Botanologist

              Your household is troublesome. Just have time to bomb. I am personally wary of such a situation, so I went in with comments.

              There are situations when this is necessary. To the green line in Israel 15 minutes drive from Tel Aviv. Three hours to the northern border. Given what happened in 2006, Israel cannot take risks, don't you think so? It is as if all of Russia was concentrated in Moscow, and the Moscow Region could shell Moscow. What do you think Moscow would have to do?

              Quote: Botanologist
              You often manipulate friendship. Even now you write that the United States is the goats, they misunderstood you and in general ... And they, in general, saved you a lot not only with help, but also at the UN. And you lead the whole thing to the fact that there are no friends, but only interests. In my opinion, shitty morality, although it is very Jewish (not in the common sense, but in the mental).

              Saved. And I do not write that they are goats. I say that the United States has many of its interests. And what they invest, they get a hundredfold. And even more. These guys are extremely pragmatic.

              You do not understand the situation in Israel, perhaps because you have never lived there. You do not understand that Israel cannot afford to play big political games, like little Qatar. Or how big Russia is. He simply does not have the capabilities for this. He fights for survival. And if for Russia the mess on the outskirts is a mess in the outskirts, for Israel such a mess affects the whole country.

              Each country has its own interests. Russia in the 2001-2002-m attacked Pankisi, for example, or shot down a Georgian UAV a few years later. And the invasion of Georgia? It was a Russian interest, although, according to all laws, it is a sovereign state, and what the Georgians did was no different from what Russia did in Chechnya.
              Quote: Botanologist
              And since it is ridiculous to talk about morality, then in the Russian audience you will not find any sympathy and understanding. We, of course, are not angels, and we do not lecture you, but to deny the concept of "good" and "evil", trying to put some kind of legal quirks in this place is not the case.

              Oh, don’t tell me about 8 lectures) Regularly starting from the Foreign Ministry, which broadcasts on double standards, accepting Hamas and Hezbollah delegations, and ending with users on the forum. Do you consider the Asad regime, which is responsible for several unleashed wars and the support of terrorist organizations, and evil, the destruction of weapons intended for Hezbollah, good? Do not make me laugh.
  • Rus_87
    Rus_87 5 November 2013 07: 15
    +3
    Yes, there was no bombing, that's all duck. Zadolbala already this news, walks all over the Internet. The other day on our Kazakhstani television ("First Channel Eurasia") they showed Anhar Kochneva (special correspondent in Syria) openly said on the phone that it was deza, there were no bombings, no explosions, etc. no one heard, in short "everything is calm in Baghdad."
    1. atalef
      atalef 5 November 2013 07: 48
      +4
      Quote: Rus_87
      Yes, there was no bombing, that's all duck. Zadolbala already this news, walks all over the Internet. The other day on our Kazakhstani television ("First Channel Eurasia") they showed Anhar Kochneva (special correspondent in Syria) openly said on the phone that it was deza, there were no bombings, no explosions, etc. no one heard, in short "everything is calm in Baghdad."

      The bombing was, of course, photos were shown on the news, it’s just that neither Assad nor we need to disclose this information (each for his own reasons) Assad, in order not to get involved in larger problems, we are because Assad is not a problem for us, and the war between us will lead to the inevitable fall of Assad and the seizure of power by the bandugs.
      In Syria, not everything is unambiguous and the supply of advanced weapons is Hezbollah is the payment they require for the war on Assad’s side. Assad and I have local disassemblies (more precisely, neither Assad nor Hezbollah), the weapons are actually bombed and are not Assad’s, therefore his reaction (Assad) is as follows, I passed it on to you, it doesn’t concern me anymore, Israel bombed your problems, I fulfilled my part of the deal, and America (by draining the info) tries to make him answer and get involved in other people's disassemblies, Assad understands the disassemblies nor him, but fit, rake on complete and he does not need it (and we do the same)
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 5 November 2013 20: 08
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        he doesn’t need it (and we do the same)

        Judging by your posts are unlikely.
        Ogrebet as expressively said.
        ALL will be raked! From small to large ! It’s only here, and there will be dividends calculated overseas.
        Reading posts like yours, it seems that the writers earnestly believe in their chosenness and future salvation.
        Yes, they only took seriously for you once and only the threat of using your nuclear weapons and saved Israel as a state. And if the next time the threat does not work or cannot work? Children and the old people have to do with it?
        Exile will not end.
        1. atalef
          atalef 5 November 2013 20: 23
          0
          Quote: Cynic
          Judging by your posts are unlikely.
          Raking, as expressively said

          not expressive. but really

          Quote: Cynic
          ALL will be raked! From small to large ! It’s only here, and there will be dividends counting across the ocean

          Well, there is nothing good in the war, but Assad do not touch us and we will not touch you, they warned about Hezbollah. warned, Assad understands what it is about - and therefore is silent

          Quote: Cynic
          Yes, they only took seriously for you once and only the threat of your use of nuclear weapons and saved Israel as a state

          Yes ? How . if Israel denies its presence.
          Read better. that saved Cairo and Damascus --- only the intervention of Russia and the United States. 40 km from Damascus and 60 km from Cairo stopped - if not so --- a reference to the studio

          Quote: Cynic
          And if the next time the threat does not work or cannot work? Children and the old people have to do with it?
          Exile will not end.

          Are you worried about our children? Don’t worry, our children, they’ll protect us (how we defended them)
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 5 November 2013 21: 09
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            Are you worried about our children? Don’t worry, our children, they’ll protect us (how we defended them)

            Yes you atalef completely lost the coast, how it carries you.
            The psyche can’t stand it ?!
            Quote: atalef
            Yes ? How

            The general warned that the "Arab spring" (a series of democratic revolutions in the Arab countries) threatens to turn into a "radical Islamic winter." 1
            Do not remember who said that?
            About nuclear ambiguity, too, do not know?
            1. atalef
              atalef 5 November 2013 21: 27
              -1
              Quote: Cynic
              Cynic (1) Today, 21: 09 ↑
              Quote: atalef
              Are you worried about our children? Don’t worry, our children, they’ll protect us (how we defended them)
              Yes, you atalef completely lost the coast, as it carries you.
              The psyche can’t stand it ?!
              Quote: atalef
              Yes ? How
              The general warned that the "Arab spring" (a series of democratic revolutions in the Arab countries) threatens to turn into a "radical Islamic winter." 1
              Do not remember who said that?
              About nuclear ambiguity, too, do not know?

              Try to arrange your thoughts more adequately. otherwise the logical thread is lost before it starts
              I’m writing, I understand absolutely. if you want to maintain some form of dialogue. then write in an understandable language. but as our military instructor Bandurchenko said
              - Guess supposedly herself.
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 6 November 2013 13: 16
                0
                Quote: atalef
                I’m writing, I understand absolutely. if you want to maintain some form of dialogue. write in plain language

                In the language of the 90s, it is _ Take off from the bazaar.
                Freedom of the will, only for the future, it can be seen that Israel, as a state, has moved away from retaliating against threats and switched to preventive measures to pacify those who disagree with it, both with politics and with its existence. Up to attempts to destroy states, one way or another, threatening its existence. And this is essentially all his neighbors!
                Wait and see the results.
                Quote: atalef
                Are you worried about our children?

                It’s just that at one time, friends (and not one person) left, I would not want the Topol or Satan warhead to put an end to their lives.
                In the event of a nuclear conflict, your state will not survive anyway, they will be erased from the face of the Earth, at least just in case. About Holy places is not necessary, the military are still people.
                And now the policy of controlled chaos of the Yusovites is still a topic. After all, they do not spend it at their borders, but with us! Games with Chaos have never been brought to good.
                hi
    2. their
      their 5 November 2013 08: 06
      -4
      There was no bombing in any way, they are lying and they know that they are lying ...
    3. their
      their 5 November 2013 08: 24
      0
      Ankhar Kochneva is not a reliable source of IMHO, but here she is most likely right.
    4. scientist
      scientist 5 November 2013 10: 26
      +4
      In Kazakhstan, the media, as well as many areas of the state’s development, are controlled by Israel, in a rush with Mashkevich. Therefore, what Mossad said was voiced in the media of Kazakhstan. They said the provocation, then a provocation.
      1. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 5 November 2013 12: 38
        +1
        here "rummaging" people do not listen to the media and read the news in the net, according to the witnesses of the backed up photos.
    5. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 5 November 2013 12: 36
      +1
      Not misinformation, but the truth, in your opinion Assad admits that his side pid ... rit Israel? how will he then look at the people? it is easier for him to say that nothing happened. Think of Maselas Wallace from the movie Pulp Fiction.
    6. Blot
      Blot 5 November 2013 13: 24
      +1
      By the way, ANNANEWS also does not mention this ... strange ...
  • major071
    major071 5 November 2013 07: 15
    +9
    Quiet guys, damn it! All the same, everything secret will become apparent. Also my chosen race, how to bomb another country - it’s not us, how it will fly by itself — the stench all over the world.
  • a52333
    a52333 5 November 2013 07: 16
    +7
    rare. They bite him from the undercoat, and also stick a finger at the States, if not for you, then everything was amicably forgotten.
    1. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 5 November 2013 12: 39
      0
      Sherkhan will hand over his dedicated jackal to his skin.
      1. In the reeds
        In the reeds 5 November 2013 15: 09
        0
        No, we don’t have Sharhan, we didn’t jackal alone in this World and we will defend ourselves in all appropriate and inappropriate ways, because we have never threatened anyone, We are a small country, give us the right to live
  • k.diversant
    k.diversant 5 November 2013 07: 17
    +3
    Assad must still be presented with a pair of Iskanders ...
    1. alone
      alone 5 November 2013 20: 55
      0
      ))) as long as there is Lebanon, the airspace, which is a passage yard, everything that will be delivered to Syria will be destroyed sooner or later.
  • mirag2
    mirag2 5 November 2013 07: 18
    +2
    Yes, it is well known that Israel is an unprincipled state with an apartheid regime, but I envy the fact that there is no longer a national idea in politics, I forgot, some of them said that Zionist ideas are no longer relevant to inculcate into society, it’s coming at the family level and since childhood.
    I envy this.
    In general, Israel bastards. They act internationally in a chaos ...
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 5 November 2013 12: 49
      0
      Define apartheid? Well, under 10, there were Arab deputies in the Knesset and the Arab deputy prime minister in the former government.
  • Alikovo
    Alikovo 5 November 2013 07: 23
    0
    It was possible to squander the Iskander into Syria in 2007-2008.
    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 5 November 2013 08: 23
      +2
      Iskander if not mistaken adopted only in 2009
  • pensioner
    pensioner 5 November 2013 07: 31
    +6
    such leaks are "unthinkable" in relations between allies
    But bombing a country with which you are not at war, knowing in advance that they will not allow her to answer, this means conceivable. An interesting train of thought ... Anyway, someday they will run into ... In general, they will get into a mug.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 5 November 2013 11: 17
      -2
      Quote: retired
      But bombing a country with which you are not at war, knowing in advance that they will not allow her to answer, this means conceivable.
      Yes, it seems like the state of war between Israel and Syria has been stretching since 1948, and Syria unleashed the war then. There was only an agreement with the UN on a ceasefire, and even that Arabs regularly violate it.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 5 November 2013 12: 51
      +1
      Quote: retired
      But bombing a country with which you are not at war, knowing in advance that they will not allow her to answer, this means conceivable. An interesting train of thought ... Anyway, someday they will run into ... In general, they will get into a mug.

      Israel and Syria are at war with the 1948 year. There is one declaration of ceasefire in a particular area. And that’s all.

      Here is Russia when it bombed Pankisi in the beginning of the 2000's or when it shot down a Georgian UAV — did it then declare war on Georgia?
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 5 November 2013 20: 17
        +2
        Quote: Pimply
        Israel and Syria are at war with the 1948 year. There is one declaration of ceasefire in a particular area. And that’s all.

        I remember, more recently, someone stubbornly argued that there is peace between Syria and Israel? And that Syria is not a trace to violate it ?!
        The situation has changed ?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 5 November 2013 20: 37
          -3
          Quote: Cynic
          I remember, more recently, someone stubbornly argued that there is peace between Syria and Israel? And that Syria is not a trace to violate it ?!
          The situation has changed ?

          I always claimed three things
          1) Having a state of war between Israel and Syria
          2) Israel is equally hostile to Assad, that his opponents
          3) Israel does not need to intervene in the Syrian war on the side of the rebels, Israel has its own interest, there are enough of its own. There is a search for comments. Find where I talked about peace between Israel and Syria. I don’t need to attribute my fantasies.
      2. Botanologist
        Botanologist 5 November 2013 22: 14
        +3
        Quote: Pimply
        Israel and Syria are at war with the 1948 year. There is one declaration of ceasefire in a particular area. And that’s all.


        I unsubscribed above on this topic. "At war since 1948". And how many attacks were carried out by the valiant Jewish army on the Syrian troops in 2000? or in 2001? or in 2010? You are trying to substantiate your position with legal libels, which is very dubious.

        "Lawyers must be put in a state of siege, taken with iron gloves, because this bastard of the intelligentsia is prone to foulness." V.I. Lenin.
  • wanderer
    wanderer 5 November 2013 07: 34
    -3
    You are not tired of discussing this disu? There was nothing, and if you were only to compete in the degree of hatred of Israel, it would be enough to throw a homo at the fan.
    1. Very old
      Very old 5 November 2013 08: 02
      +4
      alex, you yourself created an atmosphere of hatred around you. You’re not neighboring with your friends, but Soso Dzhugashvili urged you to. And so they would live, live quietly and peacefully surrounded by friendly tribes from neighboring Bantustans
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 5 November 2013 09: 07
        +3
        Quote: Very old
        You’re not neighboring with your friends, but Soso Dzhugashvili urged you to. And so they would live, live quietly and peacefully surrounded by friendly tribes from neighboring Bantustans

        Personally, it seems to me that Comrade Stalin was a top-class professional in politics, while we are all lovers who pee here at best.
        And besides, although I am not very familiar with the Jewish ritual on Passover, but as far as I know, one of the obligatory toasts is drunk for "next year in Jerusalem" (Israeli comrades, please correct if I got it wrong). Note, in Jerusalem, and not in Cape Town, Argentina, Birobidzhan, or where else they tried to send Jews in search of their homeland.
        And this phrase "next year in Jerusalem" has been repeated for almost 2 millennia, and you are here about the bantustans. Are the Arabs tired of singing along?
        1. In the reeds
          In the reeds 5 November 2013 14: 17
          0
          It is true, but to this day they say-occupied Arab territories. They don’t believe in God, it smells worse than from our nuclear weapons ...
    2. their
      their 5 November 2013 08: 07
      +5
      Isn't Daesu voiced? Moreover, hatred of Israel creates the government of Israel with its own hands.
    3. pensioner
      pensioner 5 November 2013 08: 24
      +5
      Quote: wanderer
      Enough already throwing homogeneous on the fan.

      The fan has done something wrong so that it what ... He didn’t bomb anyone like ... So that people are not aiming at him stop . Oh, not into it ... repeat
    4. alone
      alone 5 November 2013 20: 58
      +1
      Quote: wanderer
      You are not tired of discussing this disu? There was nothing, and if you were only to compete in the degree of hatred of Israel, it would be enough to throw a homo at the fan.


      is this an occasion to once again blame Israel and the Jews for all mortal sins? Do you think the forum could miss such a good chance? wassat
  • makarov
    makarov 5 November 2013 07: 37
    +1
    Yesterday, in a number of media the opposite information was generally made public that it was not Israel, but Turkey, that launched the bombing attack on the object in Syria. And a refutation, or whatever reaction to these statements from Turkey did not follow. SOMETHING AMERICOS HIDES - they are craftsmen to cast a shadow on the wattle fence.
  • bars280
    bars280 5 November 2013 07: 37
    0
    I don’t understand, was or was not ????
    1. Very old
      Very old 5 November 2013 09: 05
      +1
      -Makarov correctly noted - according to the latest information, the bombing is the work of the Touretch. Caught up with fog, nod at each other. It seems like the ends are hidden in the water
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 5 November 2013 07: 46
    -14 qualifying.
    Quote: bars280
    I don’t understand, was or was not ????

    And even if it was. Just as the Russian Federation did not ask anyone when it established its rules on the territory of Georgia, so Israel does not ask anyone what to do. In general, men thanks again. You know everything happens in life and good luck and difficulties, but as you remember that your brother writes about the Jewish people, you understand that he did the most important thing in life. My children will never hear from your school of this. They grow theirs among their own. And that's great.
    1. Leisure
      Leisure 5 November 2013 08: 12
      11
      And it's great that you left. I hope that no one was holding you.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 5 November 2013 08: 29
        +3
        Quote: Lazer
        I hope that no one was holding you.

        I hope also helped ... yes
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 5 November 2013 11: 53
          0
          Quote: retired
          I hope they also helped.

          The mass departure of Jews was, if I’m not mistaken, 1991 years passed in 22, there was no more order in the post-Soviet space, corruption devours power structures, Themis’s blindness is a big question, but the extremes are still Jews, otherwise who, nor weak morale , neither the lack of patriotism among citizens, nor the greed of officials, nor laziness and drunkenness, but Jews.
          That's just the Jews in Israel, in a tiny territory without an oil-bearing vein, were able to develop technological production, agriculture, which even allows importing products, create an effective army equipped with modern technological weapons, which makes it possible to save the lives of their soldiers and see that they all took them out of the USSR.
          PS Aron, I can’t say for the whole USSR, but nobody oppressed Jews in our country.
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 5 November 2013 18: 58
          +1
          Quote: retired
          Quote: Lazer
          I hope that no one was holding you.

          I hope also helped ... yes

          friends helped.
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 5 November 2013 18: 57
        +2
        Quote: Lazer
        And it's great that you left. I hope that no one was holding you.

        I absolutely agree with you. No, no one kept my family at the beginning of 91.
    2. their
      their 5 November 2013 08: 14
      +2
      Israel must ask and consider the interests of countries such as Russia. And do not speak again.
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 5 November 2013 18: 59
        0
        Quote: sus
        Israel must ask and consider the interests of countries such as Russia. And do not speak again.

        Why? Is the Russian Federation a strategic ally of Israel?
        1. serzhserzh86
          serzhserzh86 11 November 2013 11: 10
          0
          The Russian Federation, as the successor to the USSR, should be considered the founder of Israel, since if it weren’t for Stalin, Jews would be wandering around Mother Earth like gypsies ...
    3. serzhserzh86
      serzhserzh86 5 November 2013 08: 27
      +9
      Georgia attacked the Russian peacekeepers, and so they answered ... and if they had put things in order, they would have reached Tbilisi ... and so ... ugh
      1. their
        their 5 November 2013 08: 33
        +8
        They all understand very well that Israel helped Georgia in this genocide, trained and armed the demoniac Georgians.
        1. In the reeds
          In the reeds 5 November 2013 14: 25
          -3
          One of these possessed Georgians, was in fact the king of the Russian Empire
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 5 November 2013 20: 06
            +1
            Quote: In the reeds
            One of these possessed Georgians, was in fact the king of the Russian Empire
            And here you are wrong. He was more than any of the kings, he was Stalin. Unless of course you had it in mind.
    4. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 5 November 2013 08: 52
      +5
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      And even if it was. Just as the Russian Federation didn’t ask anyone when it imposed its rules on the territory of Georgia, so Israel doesn’t ask anyone what to do

      Just do not confuse pancake..state with a simple ... Turkey ...
    5. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 5 November 2013 08: 57
      +8
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      My children will never hear from your school of this. They grow theirs among their own. And that is great.

      Our children at school are faced with such people and antics that you have not dreamed "there" yet ... Until you dreamed ...
    6. Vasily T.
      Vasily T. 5 November 2013 09: 08
      +5
      So you let us our children live among our own. And in Georgia, they did not "establish their own rules" but saved people, the civilian population. When the Georgians destroyed peacekeepers armed only with small arms and light armored vehicles, is that also the norm for you ?! Although it is in your rules to stab you in the back and head in the sand, and even blame the United States for giving you up.
    7. Bort radist
      Bort radist 5 November 2013 11: 02
      +3
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      never hear in school from yours this.

      From her it is always more pleasant to hear!
    8. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 5 November 2013 12: 31
      +4
      you find in life everything happens and good luck and difficulties, but as you recall that your brother writes about the Jewish people, you understand that he did the most important thing in life. My children will never hear from your school
      Well, let's say our brethren is not fair to you - I think you can discuss this issue with various arguments. BUT!
      In addition to us, there is Syria, with which it has been at war for half a century.
      There is Iran, whose president has publicly stated that he does not recognize your state.
      There is Egypt with which you fought.
      There is an Arab world that also looks askance at you.
      Well, your graters with Arabs and Persians are a purely family brawl.
      But explain, what the hell pulled Adolf to solve your question by radical methods?
      If the whole world looks askance at centuries-old behavior and frankly does not understand the logic and goals, then it may be worth taking a little self-criticism and asking ourselves a simple question "But still, why are we hated all over the world, maybe we are really not the past and not fluffy as it seems to us, maybe our behavior humiliates the people of the rest of the world? "
      This is me, I asked a rhetorical question ...
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 5 November 2013 19: 19
        +1
        Quote: Bashkaus

        This is me, I asked a rhetorical question ...

        You know, but I don’t care. I just want the Jews to have their own small state. Let us reckon with us no more than with Finns or Danes. The main thing is that we Jews themselves build their future. May these be our victories and our defeats. But ours.
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 5 November 2013 20: 54
          0
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Let us reckon with us no more than with Finns or Danes.

          Time will pass, and I hope that Russia and Israel will have the same friendly relations as with Finland. Syria, like many other Soviet legacies, will have an impact on the thinking of people from post-Soviet states for a long time, but the time will come and Israel will conclude a peace treaty with Syria, Russian people are simply offended by Syria and you perceive it as hatred. Everything will pass, and this will pass.
    9. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 5 November 2013 12: 43
      +3
      The inhabitants of Berlin also supported their morally on the eastern front, until the war came to their home and family.

      Kinder to be to the neighbors. This is me about Syria.
  • ZU-23
    ZU-23 5 November 2013 08: 09
    +3
    Haha, well, the kents are not friends with you, but they would have lived humanly, there would have been no such problems, soon you will start to bite great, a typical alignment of an organized criminal group that has suffered a fiasco.
  • kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 5 November 2013 08: 13
    +3
    Well, let's go, Israel is furious. Well, well, again the tail starts to turn the dog, but is it time to conduct an operation to force Israel to peace? Well you do not want to live in peace, then take soap and a rope (quietly and calmly) and that's enough to interfere with others living and working! It’s scary alone, but in a crowd we’re even happily building on the other side.
  • Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 5 November 2013 08: 21
    0
    The most victorious and combat-ready army in the world today
    1. their
      their 5 November 2013 08: 42
      +3
      The Israeli army was victorious thanks to the efforts of Stalin and the USSR, which provided Israel with weapons and Soviet officers, their strength remained until 1967, and then there was a strong decline that continues to this day and they were engaged in the killing of civilians mainly by tanks and aircraft, or genocide alone Sabra and Shatila what is worth.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 5 November 2013 12: 54
        +2
        Quote: sus
        The Israeli army was victorious thanks to the efforts of Stalin and the USSR, which provided Israel with weapons and Soviet officers, their strength remained until 1967, and then there was a strong decline that continues to this day and they were engaged in the killing of civilians mainly by tanks and aircraft, or genocide alone Sabra and Shatila what is worth.

        You, like most people who do not know anything about the Israeli army, are making a stand on Stalin and Soviet officers. Everything is wonderful, only the UN has no right to determine who is a state and who is not. It only recognizes a certain status in the UN itself. The armament from Czechoslovakia was an alternative from Mexico, and the base of the IDF was officers who served not in the Soviet but in the British army, and trained in their own battle groups.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 5 November 2013 08: 58
      +9
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      The most victorious and combat-ready army in the world today

      ... for local conflicts ...
      1. their
        their 5 November 2013 09: 20
        +1
        The best army in the world to kill Palestinians with carpet bombing and tanks for children and women. With such an adversary as the Palestinians armed with stones and artisanal improvised means of hitting a pipe, a pipe with a filling, a shovel, fighting is troublesome and therefore requires 15 of a billion dollar defense budget.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 5 November 2013 13: 12
          0
          Quote: sus
          The best army in the world to kill Palestinians with carpet bombing and tanks for children and women. With such an adversary as the Palestinians armed with stones and artisanal improvised means of hitting a pipe, a pipe with a filling, a shovel, fighting is troublesome and therefore requires 15 of a billion dollar defense budget.

          The exact date of the last Palestinian carpet bombing, the number of victims, and the definition of the carpet bombing itself: what it is. To the studio. I think that if Israel is completely engaged in carpet bombing, the fact of such a finding you will not be difficult.
  • their
    their 5 November 2013 08: 21
    0
    Another duck from Israel, there was no bombing. Israeli propagandists on the site voice the position of the "party". They cannot be trusted IMHO. Continuous propaganda, "Strike Syria to prevent Assad from handing over weapons to Hezbollah" - this only makes it funny.
  • Rus_87
    Rus_87 5 November 2013 08: 22
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Rus_87
    Yes, there was no bombing, that's all duck. Zadolbala already this news, walks all over the Internet. The other day on our Kazakhstani television ("First Channel Eurasia") they showed Anhar Kochneva (special correspondent in Syria) openly said on the phone that it was deza, there were no bombings, no explosions, etc. no one heard, in short "everything is calm in Baghdad."

    The bombing was, of course, photos were shown on the news, it’s just that neither Assad nor we need to disclose this information (each for his own reasons) Assad, in order not to get involved in larger problems, we are because Assad is not a problem for us, and the war between us will lead to the inevitable fall of Assad and the seizure of power by the bandugs.
    In Syria, not everything is unambiguous and the supply of advanced weapons is Hezbollah is the payment they require for the war on Assad’s side. Assad and I have local disassemblies (more precisely, neither Assad nor Hezbollah), the weapons are actually bombed and are not Assad’s, therefore his reaction (Assad) is as follows, I passed it on to you, it doesn’t concern me anymore, Israel bombed your problems, I fulfilled my part of the deal, and America (by draining the info) tries to make him answer and get involved in other people's disassemblies, Assad understands the disassemblies nor him, but fit, rake on complete and he does not need it (and we do the same)

    Personally, I am inclined to believe reputable independent journalists, like the notorious Ankhar Kochneva. She said clearly, there was nothing, no bombing and the like. The news anchor also asked her about the number of dead and injured (see a pre-prepared question), and she said, they say, I’m talking, because there was nothing, then there are NO victims. And all sorts of home-grown Western analysts, representatives, etc. they will lie and do not blush, they need to see this desa for their some frauds.
    1. atalef
      atalef 5 November 2013 08: 45
      -7
      In general, of course it was, but it’s more profitable for us not to make it public, we don’t look for extra points, we have achieved the goals, we don’t need publicity, we don’t measure ourselves with pussy and we don’t need too much pride, or do you think that folding all over the world is important, who needs the message understood why to involve ace

      Masses in the discussion of the showdowns that neither Assad nor we need
  • waisson
    waisson 5 November 2013 08: 22
    +2
    they’re raining the heat with the wrong hands –– it’s in the order of things that’s not news –– they piss off everyone in life and are looking for a reason to introduce their democracy, behave like prostitutes and are ready to sell their partners and because they don’t consider them partners
  • cashpoint
    cashpoint 5 November 2013 08: 30
    +2
    The Israeli Air Force bombed not just a warehouse, but an air defense base. The air defense systems that Assad was armed with were helpless, such a revelation.
  • Ihrek
    Ihrek 5 November 2013 08: 31
    +3
    Israel itself creates a ring of hatred around itself, and this ring expands every year. Until it’s too late to stop, change your policy to the rest of the world, especially to your neighbors. Consider this my free advice, for your good.
    1. their
      their 5 November 2013 08: 45
      +6
      Israel is the biggest anti-Semite, thanks to their efforts and wrong policies, many in the world hate Jews.
    2. atalef
      atalef 5 November 2013 08: 50
      -3
      Quote: Jamal
      Israel itself creates a ring of hatred around itself, and this ring expands every year. Until it’s too late to stop, change your policy to the rest of the world, especially to your neighbors. Consider this my free advice, for your good.

      You can receive and give free advice in your mosque, but for now, check out how many Arab and Muslim styans we have, we have a peace treaty and de facto recognition and how many of them there were, well, 30 years ago, I’m sure you will be disappointed
      1. Ihrek
        Ihrek 5 November 2013 15: 04
        0
        It's not for you to tell me where to give me advice. I am in my country, great RUSSIA, which created this very zrail and which "thanked" so much for its appearance, we all know how. And my advice is sincere, because there are many normal people there. After all, you cannot be at enmity with everyone throughout your history - this is not normal. And I signed the peace treaties and I know without you, but this is for the time being. The inner hatred of the whole world, not only Muslims, is very strong.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 5 November 2013 15: 39
          -2
          Quote: Jamal
          It's not for you to tell me where to give me advice. I am in my country, great RUSSIA, which created this very zrail and which "thanked" so much for its appearance, we all know how. And my advice is sincere, because there are many normal people there. After all, you cannot be at enmity with everyone throughout your history - this is not normal. And I signed the peace treaties and I know without you, but this is for the time being. The inner hatred of the whole world, not only Muslims, is very strong.


          If several hooligans beat the victim for a long time because they are weaker, because they are smarter, more industrious, wearing glasses, or something else, does it mean that the victim is to blame? The USSR was to blame for the fact that Germany attacked him. And was Poland to blame? Are women guilty of being raped? Throughout history, by the way. Based on your idioms, the victim is guilty because the one who hits or rapes her does it.
          1. Ihrek
            Ihrek 5 November 2013 16: 31
            0
            Jews may be more cunning than the rest of the world, but this is not the main quality in people who determine humanity.
            1. rero
              rero 6 November 2013 01: 33
              +1
              UTB is very humane nation will not say anything ..
        2. atalef
          atalef 5 November 2013 20: 00
          -1
          Quote: Jamal
          After all, you can’t quarrel with all your history - this is not normal.

          Well, in general, we are at enmity (like the whole Christian world, including Russia) with your frostbitten co-religionists (I’m talking only about frostbitten ones. There are only tens of thousands of them in Syria, and probably hundreds if not millions around the world). Well, Israel. but what did Russia and Europe do wrong to them. Syria, Libya - as it was, neither Christians nor Jews were seen there. ? Explain.
    3. Revolver
      Revolver 5 November 2013 09: 21
      0
      Quote: Jamal
      Israel itself creates a ring of hatred around itself, and this ring expands every year. Until it’s too late to stop, change your policy to the rest of the world, especially to your neighbors. Consider this my free advice, for your good.

      Yes, the neighbors are such that with them otherwise nothing. So give a finger, they will gnaw off a hand to the very neck. So you have to give them more and more kicks. So, for prevention, because they respect only those who are afraid, and just as much as they are afraid.
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 5 November 2013 22: 19
        +2
        Quote: Nagan
        Yes, the neighbors are such that with them otherwise nothing.


        Your neighbor seems to be the one ... wassat .
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 6 November 2013 00: 41
          0
          Quote: Botanologist
          Your neighbor seems to be the one ...

          I don’t know, I don’t know, I personally have no conflicts with my neighbors. Well, the truth among my neighbors there are no Arabs or other Muslims.
    4. rero
      rero 5 November 2013 12: 36
      -1
      thank you very much laughing
  • biglow
    biglow 5 November 2013 08: 37
    +2
    Israel is digging a grave for itself with such actions, if the Middle East explodes, then Israel will be washed off into the Mediterranean Sea. And no army will help here. And the US and Europe will express concern over the tense situation. And that's all they will do ...
    Now the Arabs are not the same as 40-50 years ago, the war will be partisan and then the Israeli army will not be able to control the entire territory for a long time, although it is not big ...
    1. their
      their 5 November 2013 08: 54
      +3
      IMHO Israel has the main role in unleashing the third world war, as in the past, Zionism unleashed the second world war in the name of Israel
      1. rero
        rero 5 November 2013 12: 39
        -2
        listen daragoi vi where takuyu grass krutuyu dastaiote. tell me toze we just want to try it once, judging by your comments you wicked them .. laughing
  • HAM
    HAM 5 November 2013 08: 45
    +2
    Yes, the "striped" want to push their heads together at once: Syria-Israel, Syria-Turkey, Israel-Iran, and warm their hands themselves.
  • faraon
    faraon 5 November 2013 08: 56
    -1
    Not everything is as straightforward as you, dear forum users, are here to present and flare up with hatred of Israel.
    The question was whether or not Israel was bombed by Syria. Let's say that it did not change. Turkey has more reasons to bomb Syria than Israel. Moreover, the Turks are in NATO and they have their own plans for Syria. Did Israel bomb? Yes he carried out 7-8 bombardments of warehouses with weapons intended for Hizbullah, but this is not news, it was announced to the whole world by Israel that objects and covans with weapons intended for Hizbollah are bombed. Any third party will do so if he sees that a potential enemy is starting to arm himself, and she will not allow this. also for the sake of order that would prevent the next war, the next civilian casualties in Lebanon.
    Now let’s look at the reaction. Syria’s reaction and no Assad handed over to Hezbollah, he delivered part of the deal to Hizbollah’s delivery. Therefore, there’s no reaction from Assad. Lebanon is also silent because he doesn’t need Hezbollah, whose organization has only one problem, which destabilizes the region. From here it follows that everything is not so bad. From the Israeli bombing the local civilian population does not suffer, there is no destruction of civilian infrastructure.
    Well, now with regard to the States. Obama, as you all know, has failed in the company of democratizing Syria and you can say that his days are numbered. But he doesn’t just want to leave the arena of political activity. He wanted to slam the door, so Israel set up in the hope of to the fact that a conflict breaks out and the United States warms up on it to fix things in their economy. But I think he was mistaken in trying to drag Israel into this conflict. As Assad is a more pragmatic politician and understands that if Israel gets involved in the conflict, there will be no Syria . trail blazed and the whole Middle East region.A a war that will be on the conscience of the United States and the international community will not forgive States.
    1. their
      their 5 November 2013 09: 30
      +3
      Israel bombed Syria 7 times, while foreign terrorists attack Syria by killing women and children. Israel secretly helps the militants, while bombing in the past on the positions of Assad’s troops.
      This does not do you credit, bomb a weakened country and help the militants, while still lying to the whole world "about Hezbollah's weapons."
      Help the militants kill their old enemy, who encroached on the holy to return the Golan Heights.
      1. HollyGremlin
        HollyGremlin 5 November 2013 10: 25
        +7
        Oh, what a cuddle of Israel - they bomb the evil Hezbollah, but then the reasonable question is, why do not bomb caravans of weapons for Alkaida and the terrorists fighting against Assad in Syria: they use no less weapons and their threat is no less. Generally speaking, it makes no difference which of these trinity bombed, who was silent, and who was croaking: the United States, Israel, Turkey - all of them are allies in villainy, each of them could stop the massacre in Syria, but everyone gets their zloty from this.
        1. atalef
          atalef 5 November 2013 20: 02
          -3
          Quote: HollyGremlin
          and why do not bomb caravans of weapons for Alkaida and the terrorists fighting against Assad in Syria:

          Let Assad bomb them, or should we already harness for everyone? We have enough of our problems

          Quote: HollyGremlin
          each of them could stop the massacre in Syria, but everyone gets their zloty from this.

          No one can stop her from these countries. If Saudi and Qatar had added, it could still be.
      2. rero
        rero 5 November 2013 12: 42
        -2
        Ashes Daragoi. 9 Palavinoi times .. laughing
    2. The Indian Joe
      The Indian Joe 5 November 2013 10: 51
      +2
      Tales about "weapons for Hezbollah" do not stand up to criticism - that way, any tank column can be declared "Weapons for Hezbollah". You knock out the country's air defense, taking advantage of the fact that Syria cannot adequately respond.
      1. atalef
        atalef 5 November 2013 20: 04
        -2
        Quote: Injun Joe
        Tales about "weapons for Hezbollah" do not stand up to criticism - that way, any tank column can be declared "Weapons for Hezbollah

        Good . well, no tanks bombed. nor airfields. no base?

        Quote: Injun Joe
        You knock out the country's air defense, taking advantage of the fact that Syria cannot adequately respond

        Well, for the war with the SSA, air defense is somehow not necessary - do not find it. And if the air defense can not answer, then maybe there is nothing to cry about?
  • ramin_serg
    ramin_serg 5 November 2013 09: 17
    +4
    I wonder where was the vaunted modern Syrian air defense?
    1. clidon
      clidon 5 November 2013 09: 33
      +3
      Dreams cannot be taken like this. And then nothing will remain. And so I read that the Syrians secretly shot down half a dozen F-22s and heart joy. )
  • ReifA
    ReifA 5 November 2013 09: 18
    -1
    With Lebanon, the world or what? With Syria, the world or what? As far as I know officially war. You can at least knead each other with carpet, officially everything is ok.
  • morpogr
    morpogr 5 November 2013 09: 37
    +2
    States simply merge this region. Refusal to bomb Syria and then quarrel with the Saudis, Qatar wants to reconcile with Syria leaving Afghanistan, negotiations with Iran. It is evident that money is a disaster. Therefore, Israel has now leaked this personal headache, and the United States is washing their hands.
  • Nero9119
    Nero9119 5 November 2013 09: 38
    +1
    The United States said what was clear to everyone. No one except Israel owns modern fighter-bombers in the region. I don't understand that Israel is so "furious." I really believe that Syria will survive under the blows of Israel and the international rabble of militants.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 5 November 2013 13: 11
      0
      Quote: Nero9119
      The United States said what was clear to everyone. No one except Israel owns modern fighter-bombers in the region. I don't understand that Israel is so "furious." I really believe that Syria will survive under the blows of Israel and the international rabble of militants.

      Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Kuwait, Iraq - is this all nobody?
  • Galinanp
    Galinanp 5 November 2013 09: 38
    +2
    Whether there was a missile strike or not at the moment is a particularity. The bottom line is that from the outside, these Israeli tricks are perceived as schizophrenia, that is, they see a threat even where it does not exist. In fact, this is a strategic line to ensure that the smallest military potential exists in the countries adjacent to them. And whether this potential is directed against Israel or not, does not give a damn. Let’s say there is intelligence that a certain type of weapon will be transferred to Syria to Hezbole, so striking to destroy this weapon is much more politically and militarily already when transporting this cargo or at the destination. And all these repeating mantras about the threat of Hezboleh’s weapons from the evil one. And this is the impudence on the part of Israel, in the assurance of impunity in the calculation of the American roof. If you are guided by the logic of Israel, Russia during the Georgian-Ossetian conflict needed to ... several tactical missiles at Ukrainian factories supplying the Georgian side of weapons?
    1. atalef
      atalef 5 November 2013 20: 06
      -1
      Quote: GalinaNP
      . In fact, this is a strategic line to ensure that the smallest military potential exists in the countries adjacent to them.

      Absolutely normal desire, don’t you? Given the fact that Syria attacked Israel 5 times in 30 years.
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  • olviko
    olviko 5 November 2013 09: 54
    +3
    faraon
    "You dear members of the forum are presenting here to see prices and are full of hatred for Israel."

    Indeed, why are you so, everything is going according to plan! "The Arab Spring" is a blessing for Israel, this is how one of the founders of the influential in the circles of the Israeli elite, the doctrine of "hypersionism", Rabbi Avraham Shmulevich, said. "The Muslim world," wrote Abraham Shmulevich, " into a state of chaos, and this will be a positive factor for the Jews. Chaos is the best time to take control of the situation and bring the Jewish civilization system into action. Now there is a struggle over who will be the spiritual leader of mankind - Rome (West) or Israel ... Now we must take full control into our own hands ... We will not just buy the Arab elite, but we ourselves will feed and educate it. .. A person who receives freedom must simultaneously receive instructions on how to use this freedom. And we, Jews, will write this instruction to humanity ... The flourishing of Jewry comes in the fire of Arab revolutions "
    All these screams of the Western media about Washington's betrayal, "surrendering" the Jewish state to the Islamists - another bullshit, here everyone does their job. As you know, the struggle for resources is escalating and there is no time for sentimentality, as they say all means are good. In addition, it is necessary to build Great Israel, the idea has not been canceled! "Speaking about Israel's foreign policy goals, Shmulevich emphasized the need to occupy" the natural borders along the Nile and Euphrates established by the Torah, "after which the second stage of the offensive should follow - the spread of Israel's hegemony to the entire region of the Middle East. Shmulevich is very frank here too:" In parallel, in the Middle East The East will begin a chain process of disintegration and reformatting. Assad, who is now drowning the revolutionary processes in Syria in blood, will still not last more than a year or two. A revolution in Jordan will begin. The Kurds and the Caucasus will rise as an integral part of the Middle East ... "All this should look like one continuous Iraq or Afghanistan.
    1. atalef
      atalef 5 November 2013 20: 07
      -1
      Quote: olviko
      The "Arab Spring" is a blessing for Israel, as one of the founders of the influential in the circles of the Israeli elite, the doctrine of "hypersionism" Rabbi Avraham Shmulevich, assessed it

      Damn 20 years in Israel. the first time I hear this name. Further reading does not make sense
      negative
      1. olviko
        olviko 6 November 2013 07: 10
        0
        atalef
        "Damn 20 years in Israel. This is the first time I hear this name"

        Bad, so oversleep Great Israel. You need to know your people by sight.
        Avraam Shmulevich (Avrom Shmulevich, nee Nikita Sergeyevich Demin, born November 10, 1968, Murmansk) - Israeli politician, historian, political scientist, rabbi [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6], journalist, widely covered by the media [7] [8]. The leader of the International Hypersionist Movement Bead Arceinu, which has a center in Israel and branches in some other countries [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [ 19] [20] [21], the founder of the ideology of hypersionism. President of the Institute of Eastern Partnership. He lives in Hebron.
        Подробнее: http://cyclowiki.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%A8%D0%BC%D1%8
        3%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87
        "Hebron is the center of the Arab-Jewish confrontation. It is known that Shmulevich takes an active part in it. The nickname is" rabbi-partisan ". He does not part with the Uzi machine gun. He participated in many settler raids."
  • Russ69
    Russ69 5 November 2013 09: 58
    +5
    If there was a bombing, then Israel has already gone wild, from impunity ...
  • pensioner
    pensioner 5 November 2013 10: 01
    +3
    Quote: Jamal
    Israel creates a ring of hatred around itself

    Yeah ... Soon every gopher, at the sight of God, forgive the Zionist will dislike negative ... And even proletarian hatred am
  • eldar2116
    eldar2116 5 November 2013 10: 12
    +1
    If they had bombed, the S-300 would have already started unloading with the BDK. And so this is a regular shelling / terrorist attack, and the bloated Jewish army puffs up to become like a bloated American one. Although the leadership is in Jewishstan and scattered in places, they have agreements with Putin that they are afraid to break.
    1. their
      their 5 November 2013 10: 21
      +2
      Quote: eldar2116
      If they had bombed, the S-300 would have already started unloading with the BDK. And so this is a regular shelling / terrorist attack, and the bloated Jewish army puffs up to become like a bloated American one. Although the leadership is in Jewishstan and scattered in places, they have agreements with Putin that they are afraid to break.


      Israel always wanted to spit on any arrangements if they are to the detriment of them. Moreover, they can’t tolerate Russia and this is their main enemy next after Iran.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 5 November 2013 10: 59
        +5
        Quote: sus
        Moreover, they can’t tolerate Russia and this is their main enemy next after Iran.

        Brains need to be turned on at least sometimes. Israel cannot be at enmity with Russia, too different weight categories. It’s about like a small predator like a marten can’t quarrel with a bear. Different habitats, different prey, different everything.
  • Sobol
    Sobol 5 November 2013 10: 23
    +1
    Quote: faraon
    .Is Israel bombing? Yes, it conducted 7-8 bombardments of weapons depots designed by Hezbollah


    And why the heck of Hezbollah "Yakhonts" that Israel bombed? What were they (Hezbollah) going to do so terrible for Israel?
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 5 November 2013 11: 04
      +5
      Quote: SoboL

      And why the heck of Hezbollah "Yakhonts" that Israel bombed? What were they (Hezbollah) going to do so terrible for Israel?

      For example, fire them at Israeli gas production platforms. The Hezbalons claim that the Jews are drilling the Lebanese gas fields, and have already openly threatened to attack the drilling rigs. For this purpose "Yakhonty" is the very thing, so you can understand the Jews.
  • ReifA
    ReifA 5 November 2013 10: 38
    +3
    With yachts, you can control the coast and gas fields that are nearby.
  • HAM
    HAM 5 November 2013 11: 12
    0
    First, the chemical weapon is now hizboll_ everything is back to square one ....
  • Muadipus
    Muadipus 5 November 2013 11: 46
    +1
    Yankees - Evil! They are like a cancer on planet Earth. It's time for the whole world to bring democracy to the United States.
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 5 November 2013 12: 35
    +4
    Yankees poked mugs of Jews in their own shit .... ha ha ... funny ......
    apparently they want to change the vector .... preparing for the "drain" of Israel
  • Slevinst
    Slevinst 5 November 2013 12: 37
    +3
    Jews are already at the end ah ... whether. want to bomb and still be good. two-faced bastards. I hate people who do this. be afraid of the creature that will fly back.
  • Black
    Black 5 November 2013 13: 18
    +2
    Quote: faraon
    And this is a war that will be on the conscience of the United States, and the world community will not forgive the United States.

    He laughed heartily. On whose, on whose conscience ??? The world community? - will not forgive? - stop talking with staples? Yes you, my friend, Campanella.
  • wax
    wax 5 November 2013 14: 34
    +2
    The United States and Israel have a common goal in the Middle East. Assad is hindering this goal now and will hinder it even more if it resists. Therefore, one provocation is in a hurry to replace another in order to justify a full-fledged military intervention in the Syrian conflict ("Assad must leave," but he does not leave). Assad has to endure. But the hour of reckoning for Israel will inevitably come. Not all cat food is kosher, there will be great fast.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 5 November 2013 15: 52
      -4
      Quote: Wax
      The United States and Israel have a common goal in the Middle East. Assad is hindering this goal now and will hinder it even more if it resists. Therefore, one provocation is in a hurry to replace another in order to justify a full-fledged military intervention in the Syrian conflict ("Assad must leave," but he does not leave).


      If Israel wanted to fully intervene in the Syrian conflict, it would intervene.
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 5 November 2013 16: 48
        0
        If Israel wanted to fully intervene in the Syrian conflict, it would intervene.

        Intervened, no doubt, only common sense so far takes up ......

        But what about the reconnaissance car near the Netherlands? With a terrorist coordinated airstrike? With the transfer of intelligence to terrorists? With the delivery of weapons through the front offices? And of course "modest" financial aid ...
        Something is not very similar that you are not much concerned with the Assad?
        Ah yes, Europe needs Qatari gas, and the elder brother asked Russia to slander ..... Assad has nothing to do with it ......

        The United States stupidly pits you with Syria ....... and your Benya does not think about the people, but about his own ... pe!
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 5 November 2013 17: 32
          0
          Quote: JonnyT
          But what about the reconnaissance car near the Netherlands? With a terrorist coordinated airstrike? With the transfer of intelligence to terrorists? With the delivery of weapons through the front offices? And of course "modest" financial aid ...

          Do you know how many years Israel has been in Lebanon, and how many different equipment was lost or left there in 2000, for example? Are you aware of the existence of the Army of Southern Lebanon - TSADAL, which consisted of Christians, and which often had Israeli weapons on the arsenal? What is the intelligence transfer for the terrorists? What are the deliveries, if the arms are delivered officially by the USA, Europe, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey? Israel why these your fantasies?
        2. atalef
          atalef 5 November 2013 20: 12
          0
          Quote: JonnyT
          But what about reconnaissance vehicles near the Golands?

          Firstly, the Golan, and secondly, what about the sticker on the windshield of this notorious reconnaissance vehicle. about the passage of those inspections in 2000 and the Suffa -1 model, which has not been released for 7 years?
          Notices from Lebanon came out in 2001, leaving there quite a few spoiled equipment.
          Bullshit, like everything else you wrote. or explain how the Israeli car did not pass the inspection for 13 years
  • TAIM
    TAIM 5 November 2013 15: 52
    +1
    I also do not like the state of Israel. but the fact that they have been fighting alone for almost half a century with almost the entire Arab world is respectable. at what they are fighting on their own. I had a friend’s father in Egypt in the last war. air defense officer. was wounded there. told a lot of interesting things about this war.
  • e3tozy
    e3tozy 5 November 2013 16: 17
    0
    Quote: Pimply
    What to do? Let Assad hand over weapons to Hezbollah? Or do you propose to openly take out all the warehouses?

    You do not pass or what? Your d..ma is full there. And you won’t go out into the open, you are not suicides either. It will be easier for Amers to put out you than to deal with Russia in a direct military conflict.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 5 November 2013 16: 27
      +1
      Quote: e3tozy
      You do not pass or what? Your d..ma is full there. And you won’t go out into the open, you are not suicides either. It will be easier for Amers to put out you than to deal with Russia in a direct military conflict.

      You are bullshit, forgive me. Do you think that Israel is more profitable for Sunni terrorists than Shiite terrorists? Sorry, but neither one nor the other is needed.
  • e3tozy
    e3tozy 5 November 2013 16: 44
    0
    Quote: Pimply
    If Israel wanted to fully intervene in the Syrian conflict, it would intervene.

    I would not intervene. It would be like masochism.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 5 November 2013 17: 35
      -1
      Quote: e3tozy
      I would not intervene. It would be like masochism.

      Than? Do you seriously think that Russia would intervene in the conflict if the USSR had not intervened - and the USSR had much more opportunities and reasons.

      Israel will not get involved in a full-fledged war in Syria without a good reason. In the meantime, there is no such reason, and is not visible on the horizon either.
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 5 November 2013 16: 54
    +4
    I can’t imagine how you can bombard the territory of a modern, sovereign state. So then you can bomb Berlin, again ??? Or still not ....
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 5 November 2013 17: 37
      0
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      I can’t imagine how you can bombard the territory of a modern, sovereign state. So then you can bomb Berlin, again ??? Or still not ....

      In 2001-m-2002-m Russia bombed the Pankisi Gorge several times. At that moment, there was no state of war between Russia and Georgia (unlike Israel and Syria), Georgia was a sovereign state. Can you imagine now?
  • Sobol
    Sobol 5 November 2013 17: 22
    +1
    Quote: Nagan

    For example, fire them at Israeli gas production platforms. The Hezbalons claim that the Jews are drilling the Lebanese gas fields, and have already openly threatened to attack the drilling rigs. For this purpose "Yakhonty" is the very thing, so you can understand the Jews.

    Come on! How long ago did Hezbollah have specialists in the operation and use of Yakhons? And about platforms, maybe Jews should stop taking someone else's? Either they mold their own settlements on someone else's territory, or (as it turns out) gas from someone else’s tyryat — they’re not badly settled, however.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 5 November 2013 17: 57
      0
      Quote: SoboL
      Come on! How long ago did Hezbollah have specialists in the operation and use of Yakhons? And about platforms, maybe Jews should stop taking someone else's? Either they mold their own settlements on someone else's territory, or (as it turns out) gas from someone else’s tyryat — they’re not badly settled, however.


      "On the evening of 14.07.06/802/802, Hezbollah released two C-82 anti-ship missiles transferred to it by Iran (C-82 is the export designation of the Chinese anti-ship missile YJ-8, aka Yingji-20; NATO is known as CSS-C-42 Saccade, in Iran - Noor) The targets were Israeli ships blockading the Lebanese coast. Missile targeting was carried out by the Lebanese Navy radar. At about 5:85 one of the missiles hit the Hanit missile corvette (Saar-16 type) with 15.07.06 crew on board. located XNUMX kilometers from Beirut (the electronic warfare and air defense systems of the corvette were turned off). The blow fell on the stern, in the area of ​​the helipad. A fire broke out on the Hanit, but the crew managed to localize the fire and prevent the ship from sinking. By the morning of XNUMX, Hanit ”Arrived in Haifa on his own and then continued on his way to Ashdod.

      As a result of a rocket hit and a fire that occurred on the ship, 4 people died: Senior Sergeant Yaniv Gershkovich and Sergeant Shai Atias (both from the Navy intelligence), Senior Sergeant Tal Amgar (communications technician, Air Force) and Warrant Officer (RASAB) Dov Sterenshus (flight mechanic, Air Force) . The helicopter AS565SA of the 193 Squadron Magenei Ha-Maarav, which was on board the corvette, was damaged.

      The purpose of the second missile was the Romakh missile boat (type Saar-4.5). The electronic warfare systems of the boat were working properly, the anti-ship missile went off to the side and hit a merchant Cambodian ship 60 km from the coast. The ship sank, the crew (12 people, Egyptians), picked up passing ships.

      In response to the assistance provided by the Lebanese army of Hezbollah, the Israeli Navy destroyed Lebanese naval radars, for example at the base of Al-Abd and in Tripoli.

      Subsequently, Hezbollah stated several times (for example, 31.07.06, 11.08.06) about the defeat of Israeli battle boats, but all these messages turned out to be false.

      Corvette "Hanit" returned to service on 06.08.06/02.08.06/40, after completion of repairs on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX at the Ashdod naval base. The damage to the ship is estimated at $ XNUMX million. "

      Probably around the same time when the guys from the IRGC.
      1. Sobol
        Sobol 5 November 2013 22: 08
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        Where does this come from? Mark the source if it is not difficult.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 6 November 2013 00: 02
          +1
          Quote: SoboL
          Where does this come from? Mark the source if it is not difficult.

          What exactly? About the attack on the Hanit corvette?
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 5 November 2013 19: 50
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      Quote: SoboL
      And about platforms, maybe Jews should stop taking someone else's? Either in the alien territory of the settlement they mold their own, then (as it turns out) they dig the alien gas - not badly arranged however.
      So, if in Hezbalon, then Israel has nothing of its own, everything is Arabic. China, too, believes that half of Siberia is originally Chinese, so that Russians are also "settlements mold their own foreign territory" и "(as it turns out) gas is someone else's tyryat"? (I, unlike the Chinese, Arabs, and you DO NOT think so).
  • pensioner
    pensioner 5 November 2013 18: 43
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    Quote: rero
    not so understood

    Yes, you won’t believe it: they did. And you won’t believe: my parrot understood better than me ... The truth was swearing obscenely, but you, Judas sons, it’s better not to become better after understanding ... For that we’ll drink love laughing
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 5 November 2013 19: 11
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      Quote: retired

      Yes, you won’t believe it: they did. And you won’t believe: my parrot understood better than me ... The truth was swearing obscenely, but you, Judas sons, it’s better not to become better after understanding ... For that we’ll drink

      The concentration of attention on the spelling mistakes of the interlocutor, who grew up in a different linguistic environment, does not speak negatively in favor of the mistaken - he kept the language no matter what. But what do you boast of?
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 5 November 2013 19: 43
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    Israel is clearly becoming impudent .. (from its impunity ..) Even judging by their comments here .. They never admit their guilt and turn themselves out like snakes (they are trying to blame someone else when they are poked with their nose ..) No wonder Russia strengthens the Navy off the coast of Syria .. (probably already agreed with the Saudis .. what kind of weapon did you promise them there purely "friendly" to put in a quiet place .. ???) bully
  • mountain
    mountain 5 November 2013 20: 23
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    If America behaves so meanly towards its allies, what can we expect? The Americans are clearly provoking Syria and us in the appendage. And they heard the news: Russia and China are negotiating to divide the territory of the United States.))))