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A huge such power modest (secret) such a budget

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Recently, State Duma deputies expressed their attitude to the draft federal budget in the first reading. As expected, the draft budget for reading at number one was adopted by a majority vote. Representatives of United Russia and five deputies from other factions voted in favor of the whole 243 man, the against button was pressed by the 142 man, and three more could not decide on what position they should stop, and therefore abstained during the vote . As a result, 388 deputies from 450, listed on the list, voted, although at that time in the meeting room there was at best half of the number that eventually showed up on the scoreboard.


A huge such power modest (secret) such a budget


After the vote, it turned out that the new draft of the three-year budget is indeed the most difficult from the point of view of economic development over the past few years. They guessed about this before (the government was preparing us, as it were), but after the debates in parliament it became clear that many would really have to tighten their belts.

If a few years ago, the economic bloc of the Russian government declared that the budget is directed to the development of an innovative economy, to a substantial increase in GDP, then this time there are no Napoleonic plans (in the spirit of 6-7% of economic growth and large-scale financing of social programs) voiced. And, in fact, there was nothing to voice, because the draft budget this time looks very realistic, especially if you pay attention to the current state of the Russian economic system (economic growth in 2 is lower than predicted by the government at the beginning of the year: 1,8% against 3,6%) .

So, let's try to deal with the main areas that are spelled out in the draft three-year budget.
The first thing that catches your eye: the budget for all three subsequent years will be scarce. The total three-year excess of expenditure over income in Russia will be (as indicated in the draft budget prepared by the cabinet) over 1 trillion. 672 billion rubles is in absolute numbers. In relative figures, this is less than one percent in three years, which officials from the financial bloc put almost in the merit of themselves. Like, it could be worse ...

But whatever the deficit in its absolute and relative expressions may be, it needs something to close. As they say, although the tear is small, but if it is not patched in time, it can only increase in size over time. The patching is particularly relevant also due to the fact that along with the budget deficit, the national debt will also arrive, which will grow to 2016% by the end of 14,3 against 11,9% today. What is going to patch? One of the ways voiced in the draft budget is the continuation of the privatization rate. That is, the sale of state property will continue, which, on the one hand, fully coincides with the spirit of the market economy, but on the other hand, it cannot remain without questions, especially considering the options under which many of the past privatization, so to say, sessions were held.

For three years, the government is going to send in private hands of state property in the total amount of 455,2 billion rubles.

The second way is different types of borrowing, which will reduce the size of the budget deficit, but at the same time increase the amount of public debt (both external and internal). And what can threaten the increasing public debt for an economic system with less than 2% annual growth, is known to many by the example of a number of states that find themselves in the real credit dependence. Why are there foreign countries ... Russia itself was in such a situation when, in exchange for guarantees of obtaining loans, for example, from the IMF, its leadership was ready to go to almost any measures. Of course, it’s too far from requesting “vital” loans from the IMF, but on the other hand, if the process is started, then you can neither bring the Lord and return to credit bondage.

However, the biggest wave of budget discussion is not even its deficiency (and this is at very high oil prices: about 105-110 dollars per barrel compared to $ 93-95, included in the draft budget), but the fact that the budget is aimed at reducing social obligations of the state . Especially resonant here is the fact that the reduction in funding for programs is related to health care and education. So, next year, the financing of the education sector in Russia will decrease by almost 13% from the level of this year, and the financing of the health care system - by 8,6%. Even more strange is the expenditure item on housing and communal services. According to this article, the government plans to cut funding for the housing sector by more than 23%. Of course, we have heard that the management of housing and communal services by the hands of private companies should be efficient and literate, which means that citizens with this kind of management will get more benefits, but somehow in recent years, progress has been identified only in isolated cases. And, frankly, it is not entirely clear that the reduction of housing and public utilities financing is also due to the state of the residential complex in the country. If the volumes of budget housing construction and infrastructure creation were impressive for at least 10-15 years in a row, and if dilapidated housing was replaced with a new one with all the consequences, then it would be possible to justify a reduction in the level of financing of the housing and utility company. But to reduce it now, when in the Far East alone the situation in the housing and utilities sector after the flood is deplorable, somehow strange.

If we go back to reducing the financing of health care, then Tatyana Golikova (Chair of the Accounts Chamber of the Russian Federation) spoke out on the first reading on this issue after the deputies adopted the draft budget. Ms. Golikova said that due to budget plans to reduce funding for the medical industry, the quality of the medical services provided could deteriorate.
How?! Will it get worse? !! That is, the free filling will pop out of the “cured” tooth not in two months, but in a couple of weeks, or will the suture after appendicitis not be sewn in order to save threads? ..

It turns out that the fears of Mrs. Golikova were groundless. This was stated by the Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov personally. He unexpectedly for many (especially after the publication of data on the reduction in the amount of financing for medicine) suddenly said that everyone and everyone did not understand so ... It turns out that the state will only reduce costs in a particular direction, but the total flow of funding for medicine will only grow. Now revenues will “flow in the river” thanks to the regulation of the action of the MLA. Insurance, they say, will do everything right. That is, before that, money did not flow like a river, and from 2014, the year of finance in medicine will have nowhere to go, and these finances will go precisely from the CHI fund ...

Ugh-ff ... Siluanov reassured ... With seals and appendicitis, it means everything will be all right ...

By the way, after such statements by the Minister on the website of the Ministry of Finance published data that spending on health and education in the 2014 year still grow (but only in absolute numbers). So what is it? Adjustment of the draft budget in the course of its adoption or an attempt to present a real cost reduction (as a percentage) in the best light?

In addition, a general budget reduction of 5% is discussed for all items. Many managed to call this reduction sequestration budget. Well, the reduction is the same.

Many ... But these many, according to representatives of the government, are not specialists, and therefore the term was used incorrectly ... The same Ministry of Finance assures that this is not at all a sequestration, but, quote: budget maneuver. That is, you understand, a maneuver, since the savings will go to the implementation of other programs. As if, with the world on a thread: to cut down on 5%, so that later, perhaps, the same program "additional" to finance ...

Only one of the programs that, as it turns out, will not be touched is the modernization of the army. Costs are defined at the level at which they were negotiated and prior to the consideration of the draft budget. Well, at least somewhere the sequence appears. True, at the same time, in 2014, there are no plans to raise the salaries of servicemen, but this is, as they say, another история. And so that the servicemen are not particularly indignant, the draft says - oh, horror! - that the salaries of the officials will remain at the level of 2013 of the year ...

An important component of the new budget is the regulation of tariff growth. For the population, the growth of tariffs should not be higher than the amount equal to inflation with a reduction factor: the government prohibits raising energy prices and transportation above the inflation share in the 0,7 point. This formula for citizens is called "inflation minus". Inflation itself is expected to be at the level of 4,5-5% annually. Only here, taking into account this formula and the indicated level of inflation, the forecasts of representatives of oil companies on the rise in prices for diesel fuel and gasoline at least 10% in 2014 a year are combined - a question. It turns out that either gasoline is not an energy carrier, or in the formula presented in the draft budget there are some imaginary numbers ...

PS And our Russian budget has become one of the most closed in the world. The government has coded as much as 24,8% of all expenses (with 14,2% today and 11,7% in 2012).



By the way, the secret component concerns even such industries as education and housing and communal services. Well, well, there is more secrecy in science, but a significant share of secrecy in the housing and utilities sector ... Not otherwise, a network of bunkers on the moon ...
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 31 October 2013 08: 27
    19
    For three years, the government is going to send in private hands of state property in the total amount of 455,2 billion rubles.
    In whose particular hands from which countries?
    Again go ahead and swindlers like those who are in the BINDELBERG CLUB.
    1. Orik
      Orik 31 October 2013 08: 52
      10
      The "rulers of thought" of the last time decided to get severance pay for the campaign.
      1. SolomonSS
        SolomonSS 31 October 2013 09: 37
        27
        I don’t understand why we need such deputies and such a Duma who do not attend the most important meetings at which financial decisions are made, on which the fate of the country for the next 3 or even more years depends.
        In general, it all reminds you how students do not go in pairs, and then the headman will anyway write their name on the list that they were.
        As a result, it turns out that the Duma is virtual, as it were, but there is nobody in it.
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 31 October 2013 11: 05
          11
          Quote: SolomonSS
          I don’t understand why we need such deputies and such a Duma who do not attend the most important meetings at which financial decisions are made, on which the fate of the country for the next 3 or even more years depends.

          Let me add?

          ABOUT GOS DUMA!

          There is a deputy on a deputy!
          Half a thousand in one room!
          And you want to think as you are
          What is chamber number six?
          1. K9_SWAT
            K9_SWAT 31 October 2013 14: 51
            +4
            Stormy prolonged applause laughing
          2. POCC
            POCC 4 November 2013 03: 48
            0
            to fertilize this chamber
        2. duke
          duke 31 October 2013 15: 19
          +6
          you still forgot to add - why do we need such a government that takes off all responsibility, but does not forget to regularly collect money from us ...
        3. Drosselmeyer
          Drosselmeyer 31 October 2013 17: 24
          +8
          I don’t understand why we need such deputies and such a Duma who do not attend the most important meetings at which financial decisions are made, on which the fate of the country for the next 3 or even more years depends.
          In general, it all reminds you how students do not go in pairs, and then the headman will anyway write their name on the list that they were.
          As a result, it turns out that the Duma is virtual, as it were, but there is nobody in it


          Well, you give. After such "deputies" as Khorkina, Kabaeva, Kozhevnikov and Valuev, you are still surprised at something laughing.
          1. SolomonSS
            SolomonSS 31 October 2013 18: 13
            +7
            They simply made a mistake, I have no idea what they are doing in the Duma. In principle, like all these half a thousand people, whom, it seems to me, no one has chosen.
        4. Botanologist
          Botanologist 31 October 2013 22: 13
          +2
          Quote: SolomonSS
          why do we need such deputies and such a Duma that do not attend the most important meetings at which financial decisions are made,


          But what when they visit - is it easier for someone? They are sitting at the cupboards and rubbing graters, like a moshna to get their hands on. Feathered hoopoes.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 31 October 2013 09: 19
      19
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      into private hands of state property for a total amount of 455,2 billion rubles.
      In whose particular hands from which countries?


      I'll tell you a secret. Cyprus. Virgin Islands. Anything, but the private hands are the same - LUKOIL ISRAEL Limited (Cyprus), TNK BP Holding (Cyprus), and other other

      “The transformation of Russia from a global superpower into a poor country is one of the most interesting events in the history of mankind. This crash occurred in peacetime in just a few years. In terms of pace and scale, this collapse has no precedent in world history. ”
      Paul Khlebnikov
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 31 October 2013 09: 54
        +9
        Quote: Vadivak
        I'll tell you a secret. Cyprus. Virgin Islands. Anything, but the private hands are the same - LUKOIL ISRAEL Limited (Cyprus), TNK BP Holding (Cyprus), and other other

        Well, this is already an open secret. laughing

        "Cat Vaska is a rogue! Cat Vaska is a thief!
        And Vaska de, not just in the kitchen,
        Do not let the yard,
        Like a greedy wolf in a shepherd:
        He is a corruption, he is a plague, he is an ulcer of these places! "
        (And Vaska listens, but eats.)
        Here is my rhetorician, giving free rein to the flow,
        I did not find the end of moralizing.
        But what? While he sang him,
        Vaska’s cat ate all the fries.

        Krylov I.A.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 31 October 2013 10: 05
          +6
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Well, this is already an open secret.


          Yes, it’s not sad. Big business prefers warm regions where you can avoid taxes. But this is the solution to the problem. Do you want to register a company in Russia?
          1. tverskoi77
            tverskoi77 31 October 2013 10: 54
            10
            Do you want to register a company in Russia?
            - You are absolutely respected from the world of science fiction! Remember who so violently defended the money in Cyprus, and therefore whose they are.
            PS unfortunately nothing has changed since the time of BNU, only PR specialists have become more professional.
            Alexander (Orik) correctly noted that the government is preparing a severance pay because there is already too little trust in the people.
            1. Walker1975
              Walker1975 31 October 2013 15: 32
              +2
              In Ukraine, too, deputies still do not give any way to close the Cyprus hole.
          2. Walker1975
            Walker1975 31 October 2013 15: 31
            0
            And it would be okay just firms, but the owners of fixed assets who still need to check how they got to them.
          3. duke
            duke 31 October 2013 19: 21
            0
            I believe, if desired, it would be possible to study the legislation (mainly on the Anglo-Saxon base) of new "tigers" in 12 years and here create clear and preferential conditions for business (Norway, Switzerland, China, Emirates, Malaysia, Singapore, Canada, Australia, Britain, Israel, even Saudi Arabia, "beloved" by many, and many others.) ... option two - either there is not enough intelligence, or it is done deliberately to cut the business, but as a result it leaves the country, but then the question is, what kind of people in the government are they who either do not understand economics and politics, or malicious saboteurs ...
            1. Pancho
              Pancho 31 October 2013 22: 00
              +2
              Quote: duke
              what kind of people are these in the government, who either do not understand in economics and politics, or malicious saboteurs ...

              It seems to me that both options work.
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 31 October 2013 10: 46
        12
        Quote: Vadivak
        I'll tell you a secret. Cyprus. Virgin Islands. Anything, but the private hands are the same - LUKOIL ISRAEL Limited (Cyprus), TNK BP Holding (Cyprus), and other other


        There is no secret here - the whole world, including our country, lives according to the scheme of public-private cooperation. Private corporations plunder
        assets and make debts, the state guarantees their payment. Profits are taken offshore. All this is backed by the myth of effective management by a private owner, as in the tale of tops and roots. Here Russia, like that Bear, is again driven into credit debts. The EU has already been driven to the very place, now it's our turn. In Russia, the tops go to a narrow group of oligarchs and officials (public-private cooperation). Globally, the same thing, there is the world elite and the countries of the "golden billion" who go tops and everyone else who gets the roots.
      3. DEfindER
        DEfindER 31 October 2013 10: 53
        +2
        Quote: Vadivak
        “The transformation of Russia from a global superpower into a poor country is one of the most interesting events in history

        Apparently now we are urgently saving the American economy, therefore, with rising oil prices, budget expenditures for some reason do not increase but decrease .. I see no other reasons for this idiocy. Apparently the secret part of the budget is the redemption of amersky debt bonds ..
        1. bolonenkov
          bolonenkov 31 October 2013 15: 59
          0
          in quantitative terms, has the budget increased?
      4. bolonenkov
        bolonenkov 31 October 2013 15: 58
        0
        Oh yes, and citizens have been getting poorer and poorer every year for 25 years !!! Stop grinding garbage, and better adequately assess the economic situation of Europe, and the whole world, and then shout about impoverished Russia.
        1. Mikhail m
          Mikhail m 1 November 2013 07: 09
          0
          When did you last look at the parking lot from the window?
    3. kris
      kris 31 October 2013 11: 00
      12
      After 13 years, Putin managed to turn Russia into a saw-roll raw materials appendage!
      1. The comment was deleted.
    4. donchepano
      donchepano 31 October 2013 19: 19
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      and for three years the government intends to send private property of state property totaling 455,2 billion rubles.

      --Distract the remaining not stolen. Although honestly, it is no longer visible.
      - What the hell is not developing its own production? !!!
      Just some enemies are sitting at the helm ...
    5. Joker
      Joker 31 October 2013 20: 09
      +1
      The patching is particularly relevant also due to the fact that along with the budget deficit, the national debt will also arrive, which will grow to 2016% by the end of 14,3 against 11,9% today.

      Well, and the United States will soon catch up. How did someone say there about the US sink into the toilet? Here we are merging slowly.
      Especially resonant here is the fact that the reduction in funding for programs is related to health care and education. So, next year, the financing of the education sector in Russia will decrease by almost 13% from the level of this year, and the financing of the health care system - by 8,6%.

      It is now incorrect for the army to recruit under the slogan to repay a debt to the homeland, because the homeland does not give anything, so that there is something to return.
      Add corruption to everything, and in general everything becomes sad, who is waiting for the collapse of the United States? The USA will fall apart and we will go with them under the water, there will be more abruptly 90's.
    6. alone
      alone 31 October 2013 22: 33
      +2
      The total three-year excess of expenditures over revenues in Russia will be (as indicated in the draft budget prepared by the Cabinet of Ministers) more than 1 trillion. 672 billion rubles are in absolute figures. In relative terms, this is less than one percent in three years, which officials from the financial bloc almost credit to themselves. Like, it could be worse ...

      belay approximately $ 55,7 billion, and even though it could be even worse what can give officials the title of hero of Russia fellow wassat
  2. Valery Neonov
    Valery Neonov 31 October 2013 08: 31
    +2
    It’s not good to expect anything good from deputies ... Sometimes you want to give them (deputies) advice that their hands itch ...

    - Why do deputies raise their salaries, when many already have large "alternative income"?
    - To prepare for those times when you have to live honestly.
    - folk wisdom.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 31 October 2013 11: 19
      +1
      "To expect good from the deputies"

      "Ms. Golikova said that due to budgetary plans to cut funding for the medical industry, the quality of medical services may deteriorate."

      You see, she says it can get worse, but we know that it will get worse.
      but there is also "good" news:

      "In three years, the government is going to send state property to private hands for a total of 455,2 billion rubles."

      let's be glad for these "private hands" laughing
      1. alone
        alone 31 October 2013 22: 35
        0
        "In three years, the government is going to send state property to private hands for a total of 455,2 billion rubles."


        seized little in the 90s, give them another amount of 455,2 billion
        1. duke
          duke 1 November 2013 09: 22
          0
          Duc it is, there is no limit to "perfection" ...
    2. Xroft
      Xroft 31 October 2013 11: 54
      +4
      They’ve completely gone nuts .... even there aren’t 100 people to adopt the budget .... why aren’t they deprived of their mandate? If they worked the same way for us, 1/3 of the team wouldn’t come to reconciliation ... and they get grandmas and privileges for this.
  3. Alikovo
    Alikovo 31 October 2013 08: 34
    +7
    it is necessary to cut the number of officials, it has grown too much.
  4. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 31 October 2013 08: 41
    +5
    It will be interesting to read the memoirs of Putin - Lavrov - Shoigu - Rogozin, issued over the years through 50 about our time. Honestly, I understand a little sometimes. Dear time travelers, give the material you are looking for, I would somehow explain to my contemporaries in another article that we will taxi out and break through. Must-are obligated, but HOW, I do not understand.
    1. Vadim-Skeptic
      Vadim-Skeptic 31 October 2013 09: 11
      11
      The memoirs will say: “It was necessary to maintain the stability of the outlined course for development and innovation. For this we did everything we could, and we are proud that we made every effort to maintain stability. Russia has gone through many revolutions, races for the West. Russia needed respite and stability. "
      Such garbage will be in the memoirs.
      1. ele1285
        ele1285 31 October 2013 10: 28
        +5
        Like Gorby, a lot of words about nothing.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 31 October 2013 09: 36
      +4
      Quote: FC Skif
      It will be interesting to read the memoirs of Putin - Lavrov - Shoigu - Rogozin,


      11 hours ago.

      Vladimir Putin topped the list of the most influential people in the world, which is published annually by the American version of Forbes magazine. The second line of the rating was taken by US President Barack Obama, recognized as a lame duck
      1. dmnatbor
        dmnatbor 31 October 2013 09: 58
        +4
        How nice to be a resident
        How nice to be a resident
        Better work
        I to you, seniors,
        I will not name!
      2. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 1 November 2013 07: 13
        0
        If the enemy praises you, there is reason to think.
    3. Ascetic
      Ascetic 31 October 2013 10: 31
      +4
      Quote: FC Skif
      Dear time travelers, give the material you are looking for, I would somehow explain to my contemporaries in another article that we will taxi out and break through. Must-are obligated, but HOW, I do not understand.


      In general, in history, many things are often repeated during the development of civilization and society.
      It is no coincidence that there is a theory of spiral development not only of history but also of the universe as a whole. As for the current budget, the situation was approximately the same under Khrushchev when the seven-year development plan was adopted ("Khrushchev's seven-year plan"). In 1957. decentralization was carried out. Instead of sectoral ministries, councils of the national economy were created to direct the development of the economy directly in the regions (the essence is the transition from the sectoral principle of management to the territorial one). However, the economic councils will not justify themselves, since they will develop parochial traditions, in our case, a decrease in the role of the public sector and further privatization. At the time of Khrushchev, the "modernization of the army" was going on, Khrushchev made a sharp turn in military doctrine, a turn towards asymmetric security, based on the predominant development of only those weapons that would make an attack on us meaningless for the opposing side. Then they gave up spending on development. For such expensive branches of the armed forces as the surface fleet and long-range aviation, the next in line were tanks and an even greater reduction in personnel - tenfold compared to Stalin's times. The released budget money was directed to food production and the construction of residential buildings, to raise the living standards of the people. Despite this, the decrease in defense spending and the reduction of the army, the result turned out to be disastrous for both Khrushchev and for the country, which was on the verge of hunger riots. Today, on the contrary, a huge share of the budget is spent on the development of all branches of the Armed Forces.
      If we take today's budget, it has a pronounced defense character. If social spending is reduced, then defense is growing despite the deficit. Over 2013, more than 2 trillion rubles (15,7% of total expenses) are planned for defense, by 2016 it is expected to grow by 63%, to 3,4 trillion. National security and law enforcement - an increase of 9% (by 2016 - almost 2,2 trillion). So we will live in peace but poorly.
      Quote: FC Skif
      Honestly, I understand a little sometimes

      Life is a hoax. We are placed in it, without asking for our consent, and put out against our will. It hardly seems to us that we have found something, as this “something” disappears. And we love only ghosts, and everything else for us is a mystery that we can never solve.
    4. bif
      bif 31 October 2013 12: 40
      +3
      The article touched upon very interesting and sensitive topics and little understood actions. Forecasts have become more pragmatic, it is shown that there will be expenditure items and the "victims" of the deficit budget are appointed ... the rest is somehow vague. And finally, I definitely won't believe the words of Golikova (the destroyer of health care) and Siluanov (who was exposed to financial literacy in the West)!
      1. donchepano
        donchepano 31 October 2013 19: 37
        +1
        Quote: bif
        believe the words of Golikova (the destroyer of health care) and Siluanov (irradiated financial literacy in the West), I definitely will not be a penny!

        And no one from this shobla can believe there at all
  5. sergey261180
    sergey261180 31 October 2013 08: 46
    20
    The government has classified as much as 24,8% of all expenses (with 14,2% today and 11,7% in 2012)
    SOMEWHERE ERROR SEES TO ME! EMOTIONS FILL ME!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 31 October 2013 08: 48
      17
      Do not ask such questions to the authorities - you may be declared an extremist.
      1. sergey261180
        sergey261180 31 October 2013 09: 56
        15
        The main thing is not to ped .. age. laughing
        1. alone
          alone 31 October 2013 22: 37
          0
          remembered Jumble!

          I gave you a ruble? I sent for kefir? There was no kefir? where is the ruble? lol
  6. hrych
    hrych 31 October 2013 08: 59
    10
    Here at the end Dear Author is a little bit wrong, communication schemes are connected with housing and communal services, which are of interest to potential "friends". It is not for nothing that the general plan of any Mukhosrnsk is always classified. Water and energy supply, cable networks, incl. various cunning services, warning systems, tunnels, basements and bomb shelters are all connected with housing and communal services. Even if you take history, the Persians took Babylon through the sewers.
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 31 October 2013 09: 12
      +6
      I beg of you! What the fuck is secrecy ?! Communication schemes for any homeless person are sometimes better than the head of the department.
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 31 October 2013 10: 03
      +3
      Quote: hrych
      communication schemes are associated with housing and communal services, which are of interest to potential "friends".

      In the housing and communal services people work with human qualities similar to the traffic police. The issue of price. What you write about should be in theory. But in practice it’s completely different. Another thing is communication, there really is a secret, although most likely the price for the info is higher.
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 31 October 2013 09: 01
    +2
    By the way, the secret component concerns even such industries as education and housing and communal services. Well, well, there is more secrecy in science, but a significant share of secrecy in the housing and utilities sector ... Not otherwise, a network of bunkers on the moon ...

    Apparently Livanov has classified his programs for overwhelming education.
    And for housing and communal services - why should the people know where the money goes from deductions for a communal apartment ...
  8. fennekRUS
    fennekRUS 31 October 2013 09: 08
    +4
    And here the creators ... it’s better if they covered skolkovo
  9. kontrol
    kontrol 31 October 2013 09: 29
    +5
    traitors to court
  10. Asgard
    Asgard 31 October 2013 09: 30
    14
    Secrecy is a lie. The party of crooks and thieves does not even know what to come up with — digestible))))
    They would just write -... "as much as 24,8% of all expenses" to steal))))))
    And this is still modest ....
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 31 October 2013 11: 22
      +1
      "They would just write -..." to steal as much as 24,8% of all expenses))))))
      And It's still modest .... "

      and with the remaining 75,2% what to do? greedy you.
  11. Diviz
    Diviz 31 October 2013 09: 35
    0
    They will give the money to someone, but their phrase is recalled among strangers alien among their own. Where are the special services.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 31 October 2013 11: 23
      +8
      "Where are the special services"

      in proportion
  12. Migari
    Migari 31 October 2013 09: 48
    0
    Quote: sergey261180
    The government has classified as much as 24,8% of all expenses (with 14,2% today and 11,7% in 2012)
    SOMEWHERE ERROR SEES TO ME! EMOTIONS FILL ME!

    Now, calling on all structures to be open, so that there is no corruption, we set an example.
  13. mike_z
    mike_z 31 October 2013 10: 07
    +5
    Oh, there are few real guys in the government! They don’t know where to LOAN money - yes, people need to borrow it, i.e. with you and me. The main thing is to promise that those who buy bonds of the N-percent state loan will then receive golden mountains. You must admit that those who remember past government loans already poorly remember how to call-dignify, and the majority have departed to another world. Remember how long ... i.e. I wanted to say the gullible citizens of the Russian Federation took their money to MMM, entrusted it to other charlatans. It is on this credulity that the government is worth playing. To promise, to cover the budget deficit, to crow, and there at least do not dawn. Well, I couldn’t give it back ... it happened ... sorry and bear it! And yet, interestingly, we will once again forgive, tolerate and vote for EdRo. And we will vote for Golikova, who gloriously plowed in the Ministry of Health, and now has become the Chief Accountant of the country. AND...
    When will it end, Lord?
    1. ele1285
      ele1285 31 October 2013 10: 31
      +1
      To blame you for such advice to this government, but conscience does not allow
      1. mike_z
        mike_z 31 October 2013 13: 23
        +1
        Yes, you are right ... got excited. And then suddenly my "advice" and someone from THEM will read, but listen! THEM seem to have a sense of humor in problems. Then I'll get the most out of my own ...
    2. pahom54
      pahom54 31 October 2013 16: 02
      +5
      Hey, be careful! And then suddenly the boyars will hear? They won’t think about adopting such a law for a long time ... And the poor grannies will carry the fragments of their pensions to these bond funds, and their great-great-great-grandchildren will receive the remnants of these denyuzhki many, many years ...
  14. Forest
    Forest 31 October 2013 10: 24
    +2
    "privatization" in Russian is the consumption of the state capital fund.
    This is criminal.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 31 October 2013 11: 26
      +4
      "privatization" in Russian is the consumption of the state capital fund. "

      it is a cheap transfer of people's goods into the right hands for a "small" kickback and theft of the money obtained from privatization.
      so who eats away, that’s the question?
      1. Forest
        Forest 31 October 2013 12: 25
        +1
        And in certain hands this is the next question.
        The main thing is that what was created by heroic labor is stupidly sold out to patch holes in the budget, although we are assured that "long-term budget planning is underway."
        1. Starfish
          Starfish 31 October 2013 12: 43
          0
          "And in certain hands this is the next question."

          not. All the same, this is a priority issue. not deciding it, not resolving this

          “The main thing is that what was created by heroic labor is being sold out mediocrely to patch up holes in the budget, although we are assured that“ long-term budget planning is underway ”.
          1. Forest
            Forest 31 October 2013 14: 41
            0
            You have slipped in particular, especially since the beneficiaries are known.
            1. Starfish
              Starfish 31 October 2013 15: 44
              +4
              "You slipped in particular"

              Well, if all of our stolen power, fused with the oligarchy, is considered a particular, then what then is not considered a particular?
              the issue with the authorities needs to be addressed, that’s the root, and privatization is already a consequence
              1. Forest
                Forest 31 October 2013 16: 04
                0
                Therefore, we look at message number 1 - "This is criminal."
  15. Grbear
    Grbear 31 October 2013 10: 24
    +4
    An elegant combination is a secret budget, a dissent in the government and a virtual Duma.

    Deputies - Art. 81 clause 6 (a) of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation - Dismissal "due to truancy, that is, absence from the workplace without good reason" with a "wolf" ticket of a civil servant.

    The government has a clear task of economic growth (without looking back at the WTO and without any privatization). Don't know how? Then: Art. 81 p. 3 "inconsistency of the employee with the position or work performed due to insufficient qualifications, confirmed by the results of certification" http://www.consultant.ru/popular/tkrf/14_17.html#p1594
    © ConsultantPlus, 1992-2013 "and with a" wolf "ticket.

    Do not be afraid that "learned" people. Brains in Russia enough.
  16. Blondin nikonov
    Blondin nikonov 31 October 2013 10: 25
    10
    Here recently I helped my daughter do homework and it was a big surprise for me to learn from the reading book that the dog has arms and legs. Widespread errors in almost all books. Mr. Fursenko !!!!!!! its notes hoot .......
    1. Analyst
      Analyst 31 October 2013 10: 59
      +1
      Well, if a literature lesson? then this is normal, they also know how to talk :)

      Leo Tolstoy fable (Hare and beagle dog)

      The hare once said to the hound dog: “Why do you bark when chasing us? You would rather catch us if you ran silently. And with barking you only catch us up to the hunter: he can hear where we are running, and he runs with a gun to meet us, kills us and gives you nothing. ”

      The dog said: “I do not bark for this, but bark only because when I hear your smell, I get angry and rejoice that I will catch you right now; and I don’t know why, but I can’t resist barking ”
    2. donchepano
      donchepano 31 October 2013 19: 46
      +2
      Quote: Blondin Nikonov
      it was a big surprise for me to learn from a reading book that a dog has arms and legs.

      .......... This is about the scribe to everything !! Ministry of Education!!!!!!!!
  17. IRBIS
    IRBIS 31 October 2013 10: 34
    +5
    And the deputies do not want to cut costs for their own maintenance? And to reduce the number of officials' "apparatuses"? Or should the people alone be responsible with their standard of living for the stupid leadership of the country's economy, the toothlessness of laws and the privileges of leaders at all levels?
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 31 October 2013 19: 48
      +5
      Quote: IRBIS
      And the deputies do not want to cut costs for their own maintenance? And to reduce the number of officials' "apparatuses"? Or should the people alone be responsible with their standard of living for the stupid leadership of the country's economy, the toothlessness of laws and the privileges of leaders at all levels?

      Duma to cut ten times! All the same, lawyers write laws for them
      Cabinet five times.
      SF generally eliminate
  18. kostik1301
    kostik1301 31 October 2013 10: 40
    +6
    Because of such rulers, they say, "the wrong country was called Honduras" ..............
  19. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 31 October 2013 10: 49
    +1
    Living is becoming more fun again! laughing
  20. morpogr
    morpogr 31 October 2013 11: 08
    +9
    All officials of departments and ministries, as well as the State Duma and the Federation Council, should be put on a living wage that they themselves accepted and approved, the weak will save so much money and the crooks will leave, and whoever cares for Russia and will be able to work as many in the country in need.
  21. Black
    Black 31 October 2013 11: 58
    +4
    ... just get used to the good, look !!! - and even better! ...
  22. Romanychby
    Romanychby 31 October 2013 12: 08
    +7
    Dry the oars, gentlemen. If things go on like this, they will soon legalize kickbacks, introduce khalopshchina and serfdom. And the powers that be will be called "boyars". And someone else. It remains to soap and wait for the entry of NATO. It’s sad. Rus-wake up from sleep !!!!! It's not too late.
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 31 October 2013 15: 09
      +7
      Quote: Romanychby
      And we will call those in power: "boyars"

      Imagine: New Year, the President's speech begins with the words - "Just call me - master ..."
  23. Yeraz
    Yeraz 31 October 2013 12: 20
    +4
    Hmm, nothing to say ...
  24. os9165
    os9165 31 October 2013 12: 27
    +3
    Is it possible to get water with a sieve, you first prohibit the export of capital, make companies leave offshore companies - let them become Russian companies, and fill the budget. And then only the development of industry, we do not need Skolkovo, Sochi-praises to cut the loot. Do not know how- ask the Chinese comrades.
  25. alicante11
    alicante11 31 October 2013 12: 41
    +1
    There is an interesting slip of the tongue in the text. That costs are not going down in absolute terms, but in relative terms. I understand that there is inflation. But if the growth is 1,5% (and oil does not grow in price at all), then it is somehow difficult to raise all items by 8-10% in order to overtake inflation. It's too early to beat Alyarm. Otherwise, if the defense order is disrupted, then the "pro-sales polymers" will be the first to shout that the defense order program is not being implemented.
    The second point - as indicated, the budget is set up for the price of oil in 90-95 bakarezi per barrel. But if it is 100-110, then somewhere they can send additional money. So it was already in 2009 in my opinion.
  26. Nitarius
    Nitarius 31 October 2013 12: 43
    +4
    SELECT NECESSARY THE CENTRBANK OF RUSSIA --- NATIONALIZE!

    [B]
    The Central Bank of the Russian Federation since its creation 13 July 1990 of the year and to the present time is a non-state commercial structure, accountable to the State Duma of the Russian Federation and headed by the Board of Directors and the National Banking Council. According to Article 22 of the Law “On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation”:

    The Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to the Government of the Russian Federation to finance the deficit of the federal budget ... The Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to finance the deficits of budgets of state extra-budgetary funds, budgets of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local budgets. [/ B]

    In the event of a fall in oil prices and the formation of a budget deficit in the Russian Federation, the Central Bank will not finance the lack of funds in the budget for the payment of pensions, salaries of budgetary organizations (law enforcement agencies, the Ministry of Defense, Health, Education, etc.), state targeted programs and other expenses . . [b]
    The Central Bank of Russia, created by B.N. Yeltsin, as a private banking organization, exists exclusively as a branch of the US Federal Reserve System, again a private banking organization of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. The circle is closed, the Central Bank of Russia belongs to the Rothschild clan and is completely dependent on their decisions. [/ B] Why?

    [B]
    In a word, printing and the number of rubles printed is the sole prerogative of the Central Bank of Russia; no government authority, such as the president or prime minister of the Russian Federation, can influence this function of a bank as an independent commercial structure. [/ B]

    Thus, the President and the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation have a portion of the proceeds from the sale of oil, and at a fixed underestimated rate of the ruble - the dollar, export duties and taxes. It's all!

    Another incomprehensible thing with the missing funds of the Reserve Fund of the Russian Federation, which the Central Bank of Russia had. In 2008, the Reserve Bank of Russia held 130 billion dollars in the accounts of the Central Bank of Russia, in the 2010 year there were only 26 billion left, for a year and a half 104 billion dollars were spent. At the same time, gold - foreign exchange reserves of the Central Bank of Russia increased over the same period from 453,5 to 524,5 billion dollars, that is, by 71 billion dollars. Alexey Kudrin, it is quite possible that 33 billion dollars was spent on increasing the capitalization of banks and the social sphere, but how did it happen that 71 billion did not go to economic recovery, but migrated to the accounts of the private commercial Central Bank of Russia and became unavailable to the Russian government? Federation?

    The highest level of corruption and financial crimes are not in the government or among officials, but in a private commercial bank called the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.
    [B]
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 31 October 2013 21: 44
      +2
      Quote: Nitarius
      The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a non-state commercial structure
      Bullshit.

      The Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to the Government of the Russian Federation to finance the deficit of the federal budget ... The Bank of Russia is not entitled to provide loans to finance the deficits of budgets of state extra-budgetary funds, budgets of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation and local budgets
      What stems from the main function of the Central Bank.

      In the event of a fall in oil prices and the formation of a budget deficit in the Russian Federation, the Central Bank will not finance the lack of funds in the budget for the payment of pensions, salaries of budgetary organizations (law enforcement agencies, the Ministry of Defense, Health, Education, etc.), state targeted programs and other expenses
      That's why they accept the budget.

      The Central Bank of Russia belongs to the Rothschild clan and is completely dependent on their decisions. [/ B] Why?
      Because it’s profitable for guys like Zhenya Fedorov to convince guys like you

      The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is the Federal government authority, the founder, and therefore the owner of the Central Bank is the Russian Federation - as described in the law on the Central Bank.

      this function of a bank, an independent commercial structure, cannot be influenced by any government body, such as the president or prime minister of the Russian Federation
      That is why the head of the Central Bank is appointed as the guarantor, and the Central Bank itself is accountable to the Duma and the Banking Council ... laughing

      but how did it happen that 71 billion was not spent on economic recovery, but migrated to the accounts of the private commercial Central Bank of Russia and became inaccessible to the government of the Russian Federation?
      1. duke
        duke 1 November 2013 10: 14
        +1
        Dear Yarosvet so famously called everything nonsense, but - yes, the Central Bank is a legal entity (Article 1 of the current Federal Law of July 10.07.2002, 86 N 19.07.2009-FZ (as amended on July XNUMX, XNUMX) On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia) "

        But the Central Bank has no legal form at all! (from the point of view of jurisprudence - this phenomenon is “legal nonsense”, because according to the theory of law - every legal entity should have its own legal form - but not in the case of the Central Bank! but it is not indicated in any regulatory act legal form, which from the point of view of law should be qualified as a conscious "right space" allowed by the legislator)
        And now the main question for experts in our intellectual casino: if the Central Bank is a federal government agency, then to which branch of the government does the Central Bank of the Russian Federation belong ???

        Paradoxically, based on a literal interpretation of the law, the correct answer would be: the Central Bank does not belong to any of the known branches of state power, in fact, forming an independent branch of state power - a financial power that de jure does not exist in jurisprudence either in theory or in practice.
      2. duke
        duke 1 November 2013 11: 04
        +1
        The legal status of the Central Bank resembles an LLC with a small authorized capital, which it pays for its debt obligations. The only difference is that the Central Bank, unlike the LLC, is not registered with the tax authorities and is actually uncontrollably engaged in commercial activities on the most liquid product - money (rubles), which it prints itself uncontrollably. Issues of money emission in Russia are decided by the board of directors of the Central Bank - so?

        Then the crazy question is how the Central Bank of Russia can buy gold, diamonds, etc. from the Ministry of Finance of Russia. Like an ordinary private enterprise! Indeed, in article 46, clause 5 of the law on the Central Bank, it is stated that the Central Bank of Russia has the right to “buy, store, sell precious metals and other types of currency values”. And actually, with what joy, in a bank that does not meet the obligations of the state, all the country's gold and currency resources actually arrive? Those. The Bank of Russia has the right to conduct actually speculative operations in order to make a profit, which it has the right to use at its discretion. It turns out that the CBR is a privileged speculator! But again, nonsense, he does not speculate at his own expense (as an ordinary LLC would do), but in fact is in the public domain.

        If the Central Bank of the Russian Federation were actually state, then it would print the required amount of rubles, on the security of this gold, and the gold itself would be left at the State Guard. But the Central Bank does not have the right to do so by law. He can print rubles only in exchange for sold abroad, for currency, Russian resources. By this logic, it turns out that this is a ruble currency exchanger. And the currency is then placed abroad (in fact, it doesn’t leave there), under securities, at a minimum%, the purchase of which is determined by the same Central Bank. Then the question is, what is this exchanger? State? But why such difficulties? Or is someone behind all this?
      3. duke
        duke 1 November 2013 11: 25
        0
        And here's another nonsense -
        The Central Bank of the Russian Federation seems to be reporting to the State Duma, so?
        But at the same time…
        ... The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is vested with the right to issue regulatory documents, which, as a general rule, enter into force after 10 days from the date of publication in a special printing agency - “Bank of Russia Bulletin”. Rulemaking products of the Central Bank (Regulations, Instructions, Instructions) MANDATORY for all state bodies and local governments, all organizations (legal entities) and citizens (individuals).

        It turns out that the Central Bank accepts and publishes documents that are binding on EVERYONE. But, according to the Constitution, federal laws (binding on everyone) are adopted only by the State Duma.

        The norm stipulated in paragraph 9 of Article 7 of the Law is also interesting.
        Main Bank of Russia

        Section 9, Clause 8 of the Law

        It turns out - to myself - I write the laws, but I myself fulfill them ...

        Mighty, however, this structure is the Central Bank ... hehe
        1. Yarosvet
          Yarosvet 1 November 2013 14: 25
          0
          Quote: duke
          none of the regulatory legal acts indicate its legal form
          So it is - why exactly should you ask the guarantor who signed this law at the time.
          to which branch of state power does the Central Bank of the Russian Federation belong ???
          To the executive, since to ensure the main function, it takes over and independently carries out part of the functions inherent to the Ministry of Finance.
          Quote: duke
          legal status of the Central Bank resembles LLC
          And it reminds and is de facto a state institution with a special status.
          uncontrollably engaged in commercial activities
          The purpose of commercial activity is to make a profit - we look at part 5 of Article 3 of the 86th Federal Law
          Issues of money emission in Russia are decided by the board of directors of the Central Bank - so?
          Not so - the Central Bank only monopolyly carries out the emission, that is, the acrom of the Central Bank no one has the right to do this. But on the question "how much to print?" we look at paragraphs 1, 11, 12, 16 of Article 4, parts from 6th to 11th of Article 5 and Article 13.
          how the Central Bank can buy gold, diamonds, etc. from the Ministry of Finance of Russia
          Like any legal entity - I just haven’t heard about this: a link to the act of sale between the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank throw?
          And actually, with what joy, in a bank that does not meet the obligations of the state, all the country's gold and currency resources actually arrive?
          See Part 1 of Article 46, then see Article 3. In general, the independence of central banks exists so that governments, which are politicians and not economists, do not drain their reserves and accelerate inflation.
          The Bank of Russia has the right to conduct actually speculative operations in order to make a profit, which it has the right to use at its discretion
          Everything is written in h 1 and 3 st 2, p 7 st 4, st 11 and h 5 st 3.
          It turns out that the CBR is a privileged speculator!
          No - it is controlled and accountable, and does not act on its own, but in conjunction with the Duma, Federation Council, government and president.
          he does not speculate at his own expense, but in the public domain
          In this part of its activity, the Central Bank acts as a large unit investment fund - this is normal.
          he would print the desired amount of rubles
          He would print if the ruble were not freely convertible.
          But the Central Bank does not have the right to do so by law.
          The number of this gat law is kind? laughing
          it is a ruble currency exchanger
          Including.
          And the currency is then placed abroad
          For which we should thank the government and the president.
          1. Yarosvet
            Yarosvet 1 November 2013 14: 47
            0
            Quote: duke
            The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is vested with the right to issue regulatory documents, which, as a general rule, enter into force after 10 days from the date of publication in a special printing agency - “Bulletin of the Bank of Russia”. Rulemaking products of the Central Bank (Regulations, Instructions, Instructions) MANDATORY for all state bodies and local governments, all organizations (legal entities) and citizens (individuals)
            The Ministry of Finance or any other ministry in its jurisdiction does the same.

            It turns out that the Central Bank accepts and publishes documents that are binding on EVERYONE. But, according to the Constitution, federal laws (binding on everyone) are adopted only by the State Duma
            The Central Bank does not issue federal laws, but by-laws that cannot contradict federal legislation or the Constitution — for example, presidential decrees and government decrees — are also by-laws.

            The norm stipulated in paragraph 9 of Article 7 of the Law is also interesting.
            Main Bank of Russia
            And what is strange about her? The Central Bank is not the only state bank, and it is really the main one.

            Section 9, Clause 8 of the Law
            Something you are confused with the articles - in article 8 of only 7 parts.

            It turns out - to myself - I write the laws, but I myself follow them
            Firstly, there are no laws; secondly, the activity of the Central Bank is different from the activity of any other bank.

            Mighty, however, this structure is the Central Bank ... hehe
            Lying under the president and EP.
          2. duke
            duke 1 November 2013 15: 04
            0
            I give a reference - it was a matter if I am not mistaken 24.11. 2009 -Gokhran is currently executing a deal to sell to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation 30 tons of gold by the end of this year; The proceeds, including the plan, will be used to purchase diamonds from AK ALROSA, which will be purchased next year, Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin told reporters on Wednesday.

            "We plan to sell 30 tons of gold to the Central Bank from Gokhran, now the deal is being finalized," Kudrin said, adding that the sale would be carried out by the end of the year. “The cost itself will be determined through dollars, according to the world market, and then they will be converted and placed in rubles,” Kudrin said.

            The Ministry of Finance will spend the proceeds on the purchase of other resources, including diamonds from ALROSA.

            Portal Credit.ru based on RIAN materials.
            I’ll add from myself - Kudrin also headed the ALROSA Supervisory Board and oversaw this industry.
            1. Yarosvet
              Yarosvet 1 November 2013 20: 38
              0
              Yes, it really was ...

              There is either an opportunity to replenish reserves, or financing the "deficit" of the budget, or Alrosa's investment scheme for the state account.
              Formally legal, but in fact I’m not sure - in any case, without the approval of the government and the president, the Central Bank will not lift a finger.
  27. Nitarius
    Nitarius 31 October 2013 12: 44
    +4
    The story of this monstrous crime, under the code "Operation Central Bank of Russia" began back in 1989, when B.N. Yeltsin visited the USA, where he "accidentally" met with George W. Bush, visited R. Reagan’s hospital and attended a meeting at the Rockefeller Club in Manhattan. Then this traitor and “agent of influence” of the Western special services received not only “good” for their criminal activities, but also for transferring all of Russia's finances to US control. At the beginning of the next 1990 year, the Central Bank of the RSFSR (Russia) was created, the charter of which was written off from the US Federal Reserve and at the same time B.N. Yeltsin and M.S. Banque Privee Edmond de Rothschild, a branch of Rothschild Bank in Switzerland.

    The KGB of the USSR opposed such a treacherous course of action by staging an unsuccessful attempt on Boris N. Yeltsin in Spain, when all electrical equipment and hydraulic systems refused at the height of 3500 m from a six-seater plane. After a hard landing with BN Yeltsin's retracted landing gear, a vertebra was crushed, and almost complete paralysis occurred. Spanish doctors have done the impossible - they put BN Yeltsin on his feet. The second attempt on Boris N. Yeltsin took place half a year later in Moscow, when a VAZ - 3102 crashed through the door of GAZ - 2102, delivering a precise blow to the passenger door. The bent stance struck Boris N. Yeltsin hard on the head, but he escaped again. The August coup of 1991 of the year played into the hands of the American owners of Boris N. Yeltsin, a “silent” Zionist coup was completed in the country and the Central Bank of the USSR became the Central Bank of Russia. The Rothschilds got access to printing money - rubles, gold - to currency reserves and all economic objects of Russia.


    Meyer - Amschel Rothschild wrote:

    “Give me control over the release of money in the state, and I do not care who will write its laws.
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 31 October 2013 19: 54
      +1
      tenacious ...
    2. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 31 October 2013 22: 10
      +1
      Quote: Nitarius
      Opposed such a treacherous course of affairs of the KGB of the USSR, having made an unsuccessful attempt on B.N. Yeltsin

      Meyer - Amschel Rothschild wrote:

      “Give me control over the release of money in the state, and I do not care who will write its laws.
      Enchanting delirium good
  28. alicante11
    alicante11 31 October 2013 14: 13
    +2
    In a word, the printing and the number of rubles printed is exclusively the prerogative of the Central Bank of Russia; no government authority, such as the president or prime minister of the Russian Federation, can influence this function of a bank as an independent commercial structure.


    You’ll excuse me, of course, but who forms the board of directors of the Central Bank? Not the State Duma, not the President? Or maybe they are appointing with Wall Street?
  29. Ihrek
    Ihrek 31 October 2013 14: 19
    +5
    EBN traitor, destroyed the country for which they gave their lives at least 40 million Soviet people.
    1. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 1 November 2013 08: 17
      +1
      And he erected a monument ... Someone well done, did not remain indifferent to its installation ...
  30. kci
    kci 31 October 2013 14: 35
    +1
    Have you talked? Why from blank to more details? Everything is bad? But it is clearly written that this is the first TRUE budget for a long time, or would sweet fairy tales be better?
  31. kci
    kci 31 October 2013 14: 35
    0
    Have you talked? Why from empty to empty? Everything is bad? But it is clearly written that this is the first TRUE budget for a long time, or would sweet fairy tales be better?
  32. twister
    twister 31 October 2013 15: 10
    +1
    We are reducing the budget due to nanotechnological weapons!
  33. xcvxc73
    xcvxc73 31 October 2013 15: 26
    0
    accidentally stumbled upon a site that allows you to challenge fines online, at the beginning I didn’t believe it, I thought it was a divorce, but I decided to try and imagine it turned out: one of the 3 fines was canceled. Hooray, I saved almost 4000 rubles. here try it yourself, modet and you will succeed. here is a link to the service http://safe.mn/bazam
  34. pahom54
    pahom54 31 October 2013 15: 53
    +4
    Here, B.L.IN., what kind of great economists are in the leadership of the country and in the boyar’s fool ??? They see a way out in further privatization ... E-ke-le-me-ne !!! This is robbery in broad daylight !!! Instead of pouring finances into OWN ECONOMY, into OWN INDUSTRY, they are kept (HUGE AMOUNTS !!!) in foreign assets !!! And they feed the budgets of other countries !!! Privatization of the remaining state-owned enterprises will bring only momentary benefits, allowing you to plug SOME holes now, and then what ??? After all, sukk, do not think at all that thanks to their actions today, the country tomorrow (well, in 3-5 years) WILL BE FULL LJ !!! And these s ... ki will say that they care for the country and the people ???
    Yokarny Babai, well, you don’t have to be an economist here to see a grandiose swear, a grandiose Nakhamalovo, and an absolute absolute indifference to the further fate of Russia !!! Ugh, goats ...
    Paid, for the annual increase in budget salaries is enough ... I want to become a sailor Zheleznyak and say to this elite cattle: EVERYTHING !!! The guard is tired! Citizens of the boyars - all in the stalls!
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 31 October 2013 19: 56
      +2
      Quote: pahom54
      What kind of great economists are in the leadership of the country and in the boyar’s fool ???

      Apparently - the enemies.
  35. Altona
    Altona 31 October 2013 17: 58
    +5
    Yes, there is no particular secret in the budget ... I listen to Zyuganov’s interview, he reports that Russia helps 16 trillion rubles from the sale of raw materials, 6 trillion rubles goes to the budget ... We have public resources, so the gentlemen living must answer for 10 trillion not in Russia anymore, but our raw materials are regularly sucked out for sale ... From the budget revenues of 6 trillion rubles some part still goes to foreign exchange reserves ... That's actually all the simple arithmetic ... And someone else is welded from the rest of the budget on supplies to the state ...
  36. fero
    fero 31 October 2013 18: 06
    +1
    Russia pays tribute, pays regularly and a lot ... with the help of imaginary secrecy and cost cutting in the most sensitive areas, they are trying to make sure that the cash flow does not run out. Inflation dollars, someone must provide liquidity. sad
  37. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 31 October 2013 18: 13
    +5
    We already had a similar mess in the 20s. Those dashing twenties were called NEP. These years ended with the executed congress of "loyal Leninists". Then JV Stalin began industrialization. I really want the story to develop in a spiral.
    1. ale-x
      ale-x 1 November 2013 16: 26
      0
      You are a plus for hopes, BUT, let me ask you a question: what place will you take in this "history"? Or rather, which side will you be on?
  38. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 31 October 2013 19: 01
    +6
    Zhirinovsky let slip recently. From the New Year, the deputies will receive 500 thousand. Well, then, probably when voting the next budget of the deputies in the hall will be more? wink The Duma has long turned into a bunch of loafers and trepulators who cost the country dearly in the literal and figurative sense.
    "PS And also our Russian budget has become one of the most closed in the world. The government has classified as much as 24,8% of all expenses (with 14,2% today and 11,7% in 2012). By the way, the secret component applies even to such industries as education and housing and communal services. Well, okay, there is still secrecy in science, but a significant share of secrecy in the housing and utilities sector ... Not otherwise, a network of bunkers on the Moon ... "
    It is curious to hear the rationale for such a step. Although, in principle, it’s easy to guess.
  39. Savva30
    Savva30 31 October 2013 20: 20
    +2
    We feed the Caucasus from the budget, and people in the Far East were thrown off by all the people, already connected the first selling channel. Corruption is immense, even the size is impossible to imagine. Yesterday, on an Internet, someone calculated that if all the money swollen in Sochi2014 is divided into 140000000 residents, then you get 4 lyama per person. People who have not built anything or designed are easily ready to sell everything, but for the future of our children, they don’t care ... Where is the opposition, where is the intelligentsia, where is society ???
    We are in the ass ... - hurray for effective managers !!! (read the article in the Free Press "The Feudal Present of Russia").
    1. Yarosvet
      Yarosvet 31 October 2013 22: 17
      +1
      Quote: Savva30
      Yesterday, on the Internet, someone calculated that if all the money swollen in Sochi2014 is divided into 140000000 inhabitants, then you get 4 lyam per person
      Actually, it would be nice to check nonsense from the Internet - and any.

      More than 12 with penny tr doesn’t work out in any way.
  40. Stinger
    Stinger 31 October 2013 20: 24
    0
    [i] PS And also our Russian budget has become one of the most closed in the world. The government has classified as much as 24,8% of all expenses (with 14,2% today and 11,7% in 2012).
    By the way, the secret component applies even to such industries as education and housing and communal services.

    Secret, as you know, in order to hide the intentions. According to Parkinson’s law, worse intention, the more secret the budget.
  41. maxinatlanta
    maxinatlanta 1 November 2013 05: 38
    0
    Well, what is incomprehensible here? The budget was cut so that Americans could buy less government bonds. So let's say: "guys, sorry, you see, we are cutting even the budgetary spending on social services, so no googo" ... Read between the lines.
    http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/mfh.txt
  42. stranik72
    stranik72 1 November 2013 06: 20
    +4
    The country of thieves from power, we Russia sell oil, gas, gold, diamonds, timber, etc., in the amount of 16 trillion rubles, (for that year) no less. About 6 trillion remains in Russia. According to the constitution, all this belongs to the people of Russia (mineral resources, forests), the question is where is it all the rest, and with whom and for what reason.
  43. mike_z
    mike_z 1 November 2013 09: 01
    +1
    Who watched yesterday Soloviev's "Duel" Irina Khakamada-Sergei Zheleznyak? Zheleznyak announced his salary for the Deputy Speaker of the State Duma - 160 sput. Not globally ... but to Khakamada's question about other payments and benefits, he answered very vaguely and only about himself: "I don't take business travel." To be honest, I have little faith in the figure of 160 sput. This is clearly not all, given the huge costs of maintenance, assistants, benefits. But that's okay ... Khakamada was clearly stronger, and more logical (2 rounds in any case, the last one was already unbearable to watch), but viewers preferred United Russia! He whipped obvious nonsense, and we all see what the Duma accepts, we feel on ourselves, our wallets, etc. And we vote, even in such a small amount, all the same for the "boyars" ie for EdRo. Why is that? I do not understand...
    1. Altona
      Altona 1 November 2013 17: 30
      +1
      Zheleznyak is like a former businessman ... Maybe now he has some kind of income ... He doesn’t declare his income ... In addition, the salary of the deputies was doubled ... Zhirinovsky even lamented, was surprised ... Now 2 sput, after a new 300 years, and not really straining ...
  44. ale-x
    ale-x 1 November 2013 11: 54
    +1
    Found online among other things humor ....

    Of course, the State Department is to blame for all our problems. It is the Americans who are preparing the orange revolution in Russia !! But how? ... the answer is simple!
    1. Gouging our roads at night.
    2. Dress up as policemen and kill our citizens.
    3. Prohibit the government from raising pensions and salaries.
    4. Increase utility bills.
    5. Underestimates pensions and social benefits.
    6. Do not impose a luxury tax.
    7. Do not fight corruption, but give it legal status.
    8. Speculate on food, raising prices.
    9. Steal from the budget half of the budget.
    10. They shoot at taxpayer stores.
    11. Department of State dancing in the subway State Department, firing from injuries.
    12. They catch emergency lights on expensive cars, block roads, knock passers-by and other cars.
    13. They mislead the Hero of Russia Kadyrov, transferring billions to him from the account on behalf of Allah.
    14. They go to our army and kill themselves there.
    15. They inflate Putin with Botax at night, while he is powerless.
    16. They pay 1000 rubles. at rallies for Putin.
    17. Drown our ships, drop planes, disable hydroelectric power stations, and blow us up in the subway.
    18. Adopt anti-people laws, condemning the country to illiteracy and extinction.
    19. At night they torture Peskov, forcing him to lie in the afternoon like a gray gelding and praise Putin.
    20. They write in elevators and set fire to buttons there.
    21. They catch our people and forcibly pour "burned" vodka into their throats.
    ( from )
  45. tomich
    tomich 1 November 2013 18: 20
    0
    for which footcloths voted in the presidential election, they got it, but America is ultimately to blame for all our troubles))