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Perestroika among the Islamists: Saudi Arabia in the ring of "traitors to the revolution"

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As far as can be judged by reports from the Syrian fronts, in the camp of the rebels there is an invisible world, but objectively real reconfiguration of the forces.


If, not so long ago, the main part of the warring groups against the legitimate authorities was somehow recognized by the so-called. The “national coalition of the opposition” with its political roof, now is no longer idle speculation, but a fact is several dozens of small but active “fronts” and “armies” operating in the “uncivilized” south of the country, declaring the “need to create their own political Wings ”form their own“ True Revolutionary Council ”, which sees its main task in“ getting the struggle out of foreign control ”.

Some "northern" groups joined them - a little, but quite enough for the "true revolutionaries" to position themselves as "representatives of the whole of Syria", and the published program of the new "military-political body" looks quite concrete and rather threatening. The only "legitimate" government in Syria, the authors of the document see some "Shura ul-Islam" ("Islamic Council"), including representatives of all extremist "armies", including such as "An-Nusra", one of the "Al -Kaidy.

In short, there is a consolidation of radicals who previously did not want to unite, and they are consolidating on the most extreme possible jihadist platform. In this connection, he is forced to “go to the right” (if such a thing is possible at all) and the “decent” body of the “opposition”, nourished by the West, is the so-called The Syrian National Council, whose leaders, contrary to all plans of both the United States and Europe, have already declared that they are “not ready” to participate in the new Geneva Conference, scheduled for the end of November.

In fact, there is a qualitative change in the situation, and not at all in favor of the West, and attempts by some quite respected experts to somehow link this with the “machinations of America” - with all my extremely skeptical attitude towards America - are unlikely to withstand criticism. For the simple reason that events obviously go out of control. That is, of course, not "everyone", but ...

Some time ago, if it’s for sure, 19 of October, the popular, unbroken Lebanese television channel Al-Mayadin, said: Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani, Emir of Qatar, "mentioned the possibility of considering the issue of restoring diplomatic relations With Syria. Yeah. Torn apart during the “revolution”, as is known, on the initiative of the Qatari side, which was one of the main directors and sponsors of the tragic performance.

Naturally, they referred to “credible sources”, no confirmation was received from Doha, however, no refutations were received, but the Saudi press responded to news extremely nervously: several publications that are considered close to the monarch's court (as well as the resources of a radical Islamist direction) instantly expressed that if (if “special” emphasis was placed) this is true, then At-Thani’s house should be considered “munaphic and traitors to the Arab case. " What is absolutely clear: in the event of the departure of Qatar, at least in the shadows, not to mention the complete withdrawal from the project, only the Saud will have to pay for the “revolution”, as well as the “willingness to support the revolution” of Ankara. And it is expensive.

Is such a turn of events possible at all?

Yes.

As Joseph Vissarionovich said, “if not excluded, then it is possible,” and such a turn of Qatar was excluded only at the previous emir, Sheikh Hamade, who bet on the Muslim Brotherhood as an instrument for establishing his control in Syria. Plus, the counterbalance to the Saudi Salafis (Wahhabis), implicitly, but also not particularly hidden, sharpening their teeth into the “insufficiently zealous in faith” At-Thani house, besides still not wanting to obey instructions from Riyadh. However, the military coup in Egypt, which put an end to the "ihvanization of the whole country", broke the whole lovingly built combination.

Practically all serious experts agree that the June events in Doha are the departure from politics (the official cause is diabetes) of Emir Hamad and the coming to power of his son Tamim, who is under the complete control of his mother, the sheikhs of Muza (the ladies, by the way, truly Shakespearean ) should be considered as the “apical coup”. A kind of "castling", in order to bring the country and the dynasty out of the impasse in which her Egyptian military drove. And this is quite similar to the truth, since the fall of Mr. Mursi turned Qatar from an influential player into a sucker who pays someone else's game from his own pocket.

In this scenario, the desire of the young monarch and his mother, a tough person, very traditional, but far from the Saudi template, to find "new, out-of-the-ordinary solutions" looks quite natural. As quite natural, the Saud’s desire by no means allows it to happen. For leaving the stage of Qatar will mean a real increase in Bashar Assad’s chances, and the failure of the Syrian “revolution” will turn Riyadh into the first target for the evil, disappointed and willing to continue the banquet of Islamists, who have been fed up by the Saud for too long, transferring the arrows from themselves to anyone.

But if there is such a tendency and it is getting stronger, it’s impossible to frighten Qatar, which the United States will not be offended, because of the complete impossibility of making it impossible for the people from Riyadh to break free. And they go.

The recent statement by the authorities of the kingdom that "cooperation with Washington may be limited because of the US position on Syria and Iran" (with which America also seeks to build bridges) can, of course, be viewed as blackmail, much less that it is blackmail is there, but the kingdom seems to have no other options. Moreover, Mr. Erdogan, even if he bought and bought up a hundred times, realizing that the main sponsor cannot reclaim the debt, is quite capable — naturally, in Turkey’s best interests — to jump off the ship.

A rat, driven into a corner, is capable of jumping. And that is why one should not be surprised at the run-up to America, or wildly, but the fact is that the information about the involvement of the Saudi secret services and financiers in the woeful events in Volgograd, leaked to the press (of course, very difficult to prove, if provable at all). And besides, in Kirov, where Volgograd did not happen only thanks to the competence of the Russian special services and happy coincidence. The logic here is very simple: America is America, there is a certain scope for the game and the Saudi lobby is very influential, but Russia is very disturbing, preventing it consciously, neither by blackmail, nor by bribing without being driven, and it should be pinned. Especially since there are opportunities.

I really hope that all those who are in this position should be placed both at Smolensk and Lubyanka, and even more so in the Kremlin, they all take this into account and consider. But the unconditional aggravation of the situation on the Syrian front with sharp radicalization of Riyadh-oriented Wahhabis and the fall of the influence of a little more restrained Ikhwanists does not surprise me at all. After all, it is no secret that the lubrication of war is money, and whoever pays, he orders the menu.
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  1. AVV
    AVV 31 October 2013 14: 30
    12
    It’s time for America to think about democracy in Saudi Arabia! And then somehow it’s absolutely not happening there !!!
    1. Draz
      Draz 31 October 2013 15: 14
      +8
      What for? The Saudis bought billions of green weapons of American weapons.
      It is necessary to put them into consumption so that they still buy weapons. Business. hi
      1. SSR
        SSR 31 October 2013 21: 31
        +1
        Quote: Draz
        What for? The Saudis bought billions of green weapons of American weapons.
        It is necessary to put them into consumption so that they still buy weapons. Business. hi

        Purchased, this is the key word, the petrobaks dollar is dying, it's time to write off debts and impose new ones. IMha. The Saudis in the hands of geopolitics are just a playing card, no matter how they boast of their yards, they can be made by the world's players outcasts and poor a day. This is "this". Damn the program itself changes words
        1. Gooch v. 2
          Gooch v. 2 1 November 2013 07: 12
          +2
          Quote: SSR
          Purchased, this is the key word, the petrobaks dollar is dying, it's time to write off debts and impose new ones. IMha. The Saudis in the hands of geopolitics are just a playing card, no matter how they boast of their yards, they can be made by the world's players outcasts and poor a day. This is "this". Damn the program itself changes words

          I was going to buy a laptop here, it goes for 90 thousand rubles in Russia, in the rotting west to Amazon the same model goes for $ 2000 with delivery in 6 days to Moscow, and a couple of months to Siberia. But we have the Olympics and stability, and the dollar will collapse soon, yeah
    2. SHILO
      SHILO 31 October 2013 18: 57
      +1
      AVV (1)  Today, 14: 30, and the article - Today, 15: 04 again we indulge! laughing

      But seriously - http://www.russia.ru/news/politics/2013/10/31/18311.html very entertaining article on the topic and with humor - reading is not boring and useful.
    3. Siberian German
      Siberian German 31 October 2013 20: 48
      +2
      while they change their oil to greens, democracy is there by definition - but when they get bogged down, the time for democratization
      1. de klermon
        de klermon 31 October 2013 22: 37
        +1
        The compatibility of the Saudi absolute monarchy with the term "revolution" is at about the same level of adequacy as the compatibility of Chinese rickshaws with Spanish aviation! The Saudis sitting in a foreign place (they are not the descendants of Mohammed) have been performing the role of the Anglo-Saxon instrument for more than 80 years (the kingdom was founded as a British project) ... The instrument seems to have broken! Do you know how to deal with broken tools? The Saudis themselves are not capable of anything: the conflict on the Yemeni border is indicative, which means that Najd and Hijaz are not far from the world map! We are waiting for the development of events ... although one should prepare for such events! ..
    4. Luger
      Luger 1 November 2013 09: 18
      +2
      It seems to me that here it’s not even America, but we (the Russian Federation) that we need to think about, and not about coercion to democracy, but rather to dig up sufficient evidence about covert terrorist activities against the Russian Federation (financing of terrorists, training, orders of terrorist acts on the territory of the Russian Federation, to betray it’s all publicized in the international arena, and not embarrassed, in the means, within the framework of the law of the Russian Federation on conducting military operations outside the territory of the Russian Federation, let the Saudis light up. Well, there are bombing and missile attacks, etc. .. You can even send troops later. Iran, I think Syria and Egypt will support it, and Turkey will not mind (no money will have to be returned) .Thus, we will solve geopolitical problems in the Middle East and close the channel for financing militants, terrorism and Wahhabism on the territory of the Russian Federation.
  2. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 31 October 2013 15: 21
    +4
    In principle, the Saudis can do the same thing that they did in Syria. Frozen who are fighting in Syria, all the same, to whom they would only pay to shoot. To finance a small boatload in the oil-bearing areas of the Arabian Peninsula and the Saudis will have the opportunity to think about whether or not they overdid it.
    1. Papakiko
      Papakiko 31 October 2013 15: 36
      -4
      Quote: JIaIIoTb
      to do with the Saudis the same as they did in Syria. Frozen who are fighting in Syria, all the same, to whom they would only pay to shoot. To finance

      You, dear comrade, tie this up with chemistry and alcohol.
      June events in Doha - the departure from politics (the official cause is diabetes) of Emir Hamad and the rise to power of his son Tamim, who is under the complete control of his mother, Sheikh Musa
      An Arap sheikh came to power under the control of women. belay
      These 3 lines are enough to treat the entire content of the article as "warm-soft".
      1. JIaIIoTb
        JIaIIoTb 31 October 2013 16: 48
        +3
        I smoke only tobacco, I do not indulge in chemistry like alcohol. He wrote about Saudi Arabia and not about Qatar. I do not care who is in the catarrh at the helm, from the rearrangement of the terms the sum will not change.
        But to spoil the Saudis is a holy thing.
      2. vahatak
        vahatak 31 October 2013 20: 05
        +2
        Quote: Papakiko
        An Arap sheikh came to power under the control of women.

        What's wrong with that? All sharia laws prohibiting women from walking around the street without a scarf and driving cars are written for ordinary mortals, and in the families of sheikhs women have the same influence as in other countries.
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 31 October 2013 20: 55
          -1
          Quote: vahatak
          and in the families of sheikhs, women have the same influence as in other countries.

          You've probably watched the films from the "Magnificent Age" series too much.
          Inside the family can ginseng and have weight, but their projection into the outside no.
          And this is due to natural causes in the form of education and the exchange of knowledge and information with knowledge-information carriers.
          With the same success, you can write a new sheikh in gays.
          In England, the Queen has weight because she is such a wacky-beautiful-Komsomol? Or is it a convenient screen for the ruling-steering class ?!
          Quote: JIaIIoTb
          But to spoil the Saudis is a holy thing.

          So all for !!!
          Only you strangely argue, think that monkeys are something of themselves.
          They’re all puppets.
          1. JIaIIoTb
            JIaIIoTb 31 October 2013 21: 07
            +1
            Something is oil. To spoil in such a way as I described it to spoil those to whom oil mother dear. And they cannot live without it. Write to whom all this is interesting? And then again you will leave the thought somewhere not in Qatar, so in Turkey, not in Turkey, so somewhere else.
            There is a goal. There are funds. The variety of means to achieve the goal is endless and limited only by imagination.
            1. Papakiko
              Papakiko 31 October 2013 22: 08
              0
              Quote: JIaIIoTb
              Write to whom all this is interesting? And then again you will leave the thought somewhere not in Qatar, so in Turkey, not in Turkey, so somewhere else.

              shook-shook-shook
              Quote: JIaIIoTb
              Something is oil. To spoil in such a way as I described it to spoil those to whom oil mother dear. And they cannot live without it.

              And are these Arab sheikhs?
              And I, by naivety, suspect this of Saxons. apparently wrong? crying
              1. JIaIIoTb
                JIaIIoTb 1 November 2013 00: 35
                0
                You remind me very much of talkers from the rain. They also like to polemicize, building abstract constructions or simply taking phrases out of context. In general, breed demagoguery. Therefore. I will send you to ignore. Whatever you take away my time. The sense of your mindsets 0.
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 31 October 2013 21: 25
            +1
            Quote: Papakiko
            Inside the family can ginseng and have weight, but their projection into the outside no.

            Men rule the world and women rule men. So it was, so it is. I wanted to write "it will be so", but in light of the growth of aggressive feminism, I'm not sure. If this continues, the men will be relegated to the position of a hybrid vibrator with an ATM.
            1. Papakiko
              Papakiko 31 October 2013 22: 04
              0
              Quote: Nagan
              Men rule the world, and women rule men.

              This is in a society where monogamy rules.
              But in the Maghreb countries, the opposite is true.
              Women are bought there as a commodity and there is no need to think that "socks" or "tie" can influence foreign policy.
              The engine is greed to possess everything and in large quantities.
              Ginseng is an all-in-one tool for sharpening or incentive to achieve absolute greed.
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 1 November 2013 01: 38
                0
                Quote: Papakiko
                But in the Maghreb countries, the opposite is true.
                Something is wrong with either terminology or geography. The Maghreb is Africa west of Egypt, and the CA and Qatar seem to have been on the Arabian Peninsula so far.
                And with the situation "Women are bought there as a commodity and there is no need to think that" socks "or" tie "can influence foreign policy." not so simple. That is, basically this is so, but if a strong woman gets along with a weak-willed man, it is still a question of who will steer whom. Considering that both Hamad and Tamim came to power not through elections or another form of political struggle, but by the decision of the clan, they do not necessarily have a strong character, but rather the opposite.
          3. vahatak
            vahatak 31 October 2013 23: 48
            0
            Quote: Papakiko
            You've probably watched the films from the "Magnificent Age" series too much.

            You would have called some other film, if not Turkish, otherwise I would have become very ill at the mere thought that I could watch such a thing.
            But in essence, I am based on the facts of history (Arab history, and not some magnificent centuries). If in the Middle Ages there were women who influenced their sons and husbands and thus politics, then what prevents them from doing this today? Do not forget that Qatar is ruled by one family, and influencing the family means influencing the policy of Qatar.
            1. Papakiko
              Papakiko 1 November 2013 00: 38
              0
              Quote: vahatak
              If in the Middle Ages there were women who influenced their sons and husbands and thus politics, then what prevents them from doing it today?

              Epic-scientific. Have you read novels (Shakespeare, Dumas) and are still under their influence?
              Quote: vahatak
              Do not forget that Qatar is ruled by one family, and influencing the family means influencing the policy of Qatar.

              Yes, you have a direct road to the teachers of MGIMO or to Oxvodrdy-Cambridge-Sarbon. Or immediately replace the foreign minister in any of the "friendly" countries to choose from the United States, England, Israel, France, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, etc.
              1. vahatak
                vahatak 1 November 2013 01: 39
                +1
                Quote: Papakiko
                Epic-scientific. Have you read novels (Shakespeare, Dumas) and are still under their influence?

                You don’t know history, so I’ll put the question this way: are Bhuto and Sukarno also from Shakespeare and Dumas novels?
                And if it’s not difficult, at the same time name Shakespeare’s novels (heh, heh, heh, I see that you are not strong in literature either) and Dumas, where influential Muslim women live.
                Quote: Papakiko
                Yes, you have a direct road to the teachers of MGIMO or to Oxvodrdy-Cambridge-Sarbon. Or immediately replace the foreign minister in any of the "friendly" countries to choose from the United States, England, Israel, France, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, etc.

                There is nothing for me to teach at your wretched institution, where I have not thought of buying new textbooks of political science and study from the books of the classics of Marxism, which denied the role of the individual in history.
      3. Botanologist
        Botanologist 31 October 2013 21: 41
        0
        Quote: Papakiko
        An Arap sheikh came to power under the control of women.


        Why are you surprised? Firstly, the mother in Islam keeps her children strict, they are obligated to honor her. And secondly, the sheikhs who received the best education are far from savages, and they observe secular traditions.
      4. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 1 November 2013 09: 04
        0
        These 3 lines are enough to treat the entire content of the article as "warm-soft".
        Which does not abolish the urgent need to scorch this (Saudi) hornet's nest.
    2. Polovec
      Polovec 31 October 2013 15: 48
      0

      "To do for the Saudis the same as they did in Syria. The frostbitten ones who are fighting in Syria do not care who to shoot at as long as they get paid."
      A tempting offer ... good
      1. fedorovith
        fedorovith 31 October 2013 17: 16
        0
        And who will pay this flaw?
        1. Hudo
          Hudo 31 October 2013 20: 08
          +1
          Quote: fedorovith
          And who will pay this flaw?


          Principle three days to plunderIsn't it already running? And for three days they will cut, rob and in some other way nightmare the Saudis, or three hundred and thirty-three so what a difference in figs!
    3. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 1 November 2013 05: 26
      0
      I would be happy, but "where is the dengi Zin?" While the Russian egg-box is in the foreign bins, there will be no action on our part !!!
  3. xcvxc73
    xcvxc73 31 October 2013 15: 21
    -12 qualifying.
    accidentally stumbled upon a site that allows you to challenge fines online, at the beginning I didn’t believe it, I thought it was a divorce, but I decided to try and imagine it turned out: one of the 3 fines was canceled. Hooray, I saved almost 4000 rubles. here try it yourself, modet and you will succeed. here is a link to the service http://safe.mn/bazam
  4. makarov
    makarov 31 October 2013 15: 26
    +1
    "For the departure from the scene of Qatar will mean a real increase in Bashar al-Assad's chances, and the failure of the Syrian" revolution "will turn Riyadh into the first target for the angry, disappointed and wanting to continue the banquet of Islamists, whom the Saud has been feeding for too long, shifting the arrows from themselves to anyone .. . "

    This is what I have already repeated twice in comments on similar topics. It is possible that the next "revolusen" will happen with them .... there is also something to plunder, and there will be "correct" slogans
  5. Bober
    Bober 31 October 2013 15: 30
    +1
    For leaving Qatar’s stage will mean a real increase in Bashar al-Assad’s chances, and the failure of the Syrian “revolution” will turn Riyadh into the first target for the evil, disappointed and willing to continue the banquet of the Islamists, whom the Saudis fed too long, transferring arrows from themselves to anyone.

    Well, except that the banquet is like a robbery in the SA of everything that they see around with arms from Libyan arsenals. But so far only so, for it is not clear in this case, who will pay them? Assad? belay
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 31 October 2013 21: 44
      +1
      Quote: Bober
      it is not clear in this case, who will pay them?


      With a certain critical mass, and it has been accumulated in the jihadist ranks, the issue of payments becomes not decisive. After all, they themselves can pay themselves by coming to Saudi Arabia and imposing a tribute to the snickering Saudis. They have been given so many arms that they will last long enough.
  6. Migari
    Migari 31 October 2013 15: 43
    0
    Everything falls into place, now it makes no sense to pretend to be revolutionaries in order to cover up the Western "democrats" who generously supply weapons and everything necessary to overthrow the legitimate government of Syria. The preparations for the Geneva conference have highlighted all the cards.
  7. Polovec
    Polovec 31 October 2013 15: 46
    +9
    We are able to deal with any enemy, provided that we are not sold. Basayev at one time with his gang drove hundreds of kilometers through dozens of police posts. I want to believe that today this will not happen again. Corruption in law enforcement is an ally of the United States and gangsters much more powerful than all of their NATO and al-Qaeda combined.
    I strongly hope that Putin understands this.
    1. Reyngard
      Reyngard 31 October 2013 19: 23
      -1
      What does Putin understand besides his own pocket? No need to idealize ...
  8. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 31 October 2013 16: 33
    +1
    It seems that the Amers do not care in what order to destroy the countries of the region for the glory of the future great Israel.
  9. Savva30
    Savva30 31 October 2013 19: 29
    +2
    It is time for Wahhabism to be recognized as a prohibited religious movement in Russia. No matter how they mix there, hang out, they will not be friends with us ...
  10. individual
    individual 31 October 2013 20: 22
    +1
    The author did not accidentally say that a rat cornered is capable of throwing.
    We have the World Olympics in Sochi and it is necessary to anticipate and prevent the throwing of rats, and there are already too many of them, and not only in the Middle East.
  11. alone
    alone 31 October 2013 20: 42
    +2
    Prince Bandar grunted something and then everyone started writing that America would revolutionize Saudi Arabia)) someone who knows geography and understands a little economy understands what CA means for the USA. There’s a simple political game. Thousands of tons of American lungs are driven through Syria and medium type of weapons. All this noise was raised because of distracting the attention of others so that no one would be interested in this fact.
  12. Boris63
    Boris63 31 October 2013 20: 54
    0
    The disagreements among the Arabs, I think, "play into the hands" of both us and the states. More of course for us, less will pay for radicals, a quieter life.
  13. starhina01
    starhina01 31 October 2013 22: 20
    +2
    I don’t like the unification of the rebels. It’s not good. Again they want to stir something up. The Syrians are sorry they’ve suffocated with them and didn’t rest, but the fellows are holding on hi
  14. Luger
    Luger 1 November 2013 10: 06
    0
    I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT ?! THE ARTICLE HAS LOST A SHORT TIME AND IT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE FIRST STRIP WHERE THAT THE HORSE KNOWS WHERE. WHAT IS IT RELATED TO? ANY SUGGESTIONS?