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Yana Amelina: The results of the presidential elections in Georgia are the last name, the anti-Russian course is the same

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Yana Amelina: The results of the presidential elections in Georgia are the last name, the anti-Russian course is the sameThe presidential elections in Georgia did not bring sensations. The new head of state, as predicted by almost everyone, was the candidate of the ruling coalition "Georgian Dream", uninteresting and uncharismatic Georgiy Margvelashvili. There was no second round: his closest rivals, the candidate of the former ruling United National Movement party, David Bakradze and the former chairman of parliament, Nino Burjanadze, together gained less than a third of the votes.


By and large, all this is not so important. Starting from the current elections, the presidential post in Georgia will bear a symbolic rather than practical burden. In accordance with the amendments to the Constitution adopted three years ago, the powers of the president are significantly reduced, being redistributed between the parliament and the government (controlled by the same Georgian Dream). The epoch of Saakashvili, who created what is known who put his heart, irrevocably a thing of the past.

Elections did not become an arena for the struggle of ideologies. The first three candidates for the presidency demonstrated a touching unanimity on the main directions of foreign policy. President-elect Margvelashvili supports Georgia’s accession to NATO and the EU, rejects the possibility of returning the country to the CIS ("Georgia is definitely moving towards Europe") and dreams of "restoring Georgia’s territorial integrity", that is, returning the independent states of South Ossetia and Abkhazia which, of course, is impossible. Bakradze and Burjanadze say the same thing.

There is no doubt that the Georgian course "from Russia" and on Euro-Atlantic integration will not change. It is absurd to expect improvements in Russian-Georgian, Georgian-Ossetian and Georgian-Abkhaz relations. Various actions against the installation of barbed wire along the Georgian-South Ossetian border, collecting signatures for a petition against Georgia’s participation in the Winter Olympics in Sochi (from the beginning of October have already collected 28 thousands), burning Russian flags and other similar antics, demonstrating the true approach Tbilisi to establish interstate relations.

The reaction of the Georgian leadership to the participation of the Russian pilot Ivan Nechaev, among other soldiers who reflected Georgian aggression in August 2008 of the year in the Olympic torch relay, is a striking stroke. "It is obvious that a state that wants to improve relations with a neighboring country should not behave so defiantly," the offended government of Georgia commented on this fact. That is, the problem for Tbilisi, like all the recent years, is not in unleashing a war against South Ossetia, but in the only possible Russian response to this inhuman action. Yes, and "to improve relations," apparently, it is fundamentally important not for Georgia, which spoiled them, but for Russia.

And all this despite the fact that the Russian market, contrary to the interests of the consumer and the foreign policy objectives of the Russian Federation, has long been open to Georgian wine and Borjomi water (which frankly loses to Russian mineral waters, both in quality and price). What other unilateral concessions are required from the Russian side? ... But in Tbilisi they are not ready to accept reality. Georgian politicians have not yet realized even such an obvious thing as the fact that the train of “confederative Georgia” had long gone, and on the agenda is not the “return” of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, which will never happen, but the preservation of the territorial unity of what remains. . It is not by chance that Margvelashvili, Bakradze and Burjanadze, as Saakashvili and Ivanishvili used to do, sang the old song about “searching for a common language with Abkhazians and Ossetians” and building a new Georgia, “which will be interesting both for Abkhazians and Ossetians” in the whole election campaign. ".

In the present circumstances, the personal composition of the Georgian leadership is not fundamental - it still does not cope with the challenges of the time. In Georgia, there is not and in the foreseeable future there will be not only pro-Russian, but at least pro-Georgian politicians who are aware of the full depth of the domestic and foreign policy risks facing this state. For a qualitative improvement in Russian-Georgian relations, we need not absurd claims to Russia, but the repentance of the Georgian leadership (and, most importantly, society) for the events of the 2008 of the year (or rather, for what happened at least from the 1989 of the year). But where there is - Georgia is proud of its "heroes." The country obviously needs external control, and it must be implemented by the same methods - by the forces of the Russian Governor-General from Vorontsov Palace, which is on Rustaveli Avenue in Tiflis.
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  1. Canep
    Canep 30 October 2013 17: 44
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    In the West, these elections have been called democratic and legitimate. Democracy is the power of the people in the interests of the people. I very much doubt that in the interests of the Georgian people its further impoverishment, if Georgia enters the EU free trade zone (they will not be accepted into the EU in the next 40 years), the remnants of Georgian industry will go down in history, the standard of living will drop even more. This is the kind of democracy the West brought with its color revolutions.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 30 October 2013 17: 53
      -27 qualifying.
      Quote: Canep
      that in the interests of the Georgian people its further impoverishment,

      and where did you get this ... if investments increase every year ... salary rises ... you probably haven't been to Georgia for a long time ...
      Quote: Canep
      In the West, these elections have been called democratic and legitimate.

      but what is it really bad to choose all the leaves for 2 terms ... or is it more convenient for you not to choose, to appoint and to be until death .. like the General Secretary smile
      Quote: Canep
      Democracy is the power of the people in the interests of the people.

      honestly elections were held .. The president lost and left ... what's wrong .. this is happening in normal states ....
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas 30 October 2013 18: 23
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        Quote: smersh70
        The president lost and left ... what's wrong ... this is happening in normal states ....

        Well, for many Russians, Putin’s departure is tantamount to disaster and the death of the whole country, like Pushkin’s Godunov’s ...
        1. PPL
          PPL 30 October 2013 18: 55
          0
          ... Putin's departure is tantamount to disaster and the death of the whole country ...

          Thank you, laughed heartily. lol

          Godkin at Pushkin - the bearer of tragic guilt. His fault was not that he had killed Tsarevich Demetrius, but that he had taken up the tsar’s tug and had not pulled it out.

          "No, the people do not feel mercy:
          Do good - he will not say thanks;
          Robbery and executions - you will not be worse. "
          A.S. Pushkin, “Boris Godunov”
      2. hrych
        hrych 30 October 2013 18: 26
        +9
        The funny thing is when the supposedly democratically elected post of prezik is transferred from dad to son, something like the DPRK, (with all due respect to Ilham), when they allegedly vote for a son who has not yet shown himself. According to the DPRK - the great Kimersen (the eldest was clever), Kimchenir (the middle one was this way and that), Un (the youngest was ..k). We are waiting for the heir.
        1. alone
          alone 30 October 2013 20: 11
          -7
          Quote: hrych
          The funny thing is when the supposedly democratically elected post of prezik is transferred from dad to son, something like the DPRK, (with all due respect to Ilham), when they allegedly vote for a son who has not yet shown himself.


          Your comparison is inappropriate. In the first in the last election, the results of the elections and the exit polls coincided. Moreover, exit polls were carried out by Western organizations.
          and Koreans simply transfer power from father to son, etc. Aliyev Sr. for a long time directed his son to various branches of government and brought up a worthy replacement for himself.

          As for Georgia, the main loser admitted defeat. And the journalist is right. You should not expect that as soon as Misha Saakashvili leaves, Georgia will rush to Russia on its knees. Replacing the figures does not change anything. Georgia has chosen its own path
          1. hrych
            hrych 30 October 2013 20: 43
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            Georgia, Dear, Russia does not need to rush to its knees when Russia is already bent over by cancer. The United States and the Bushes generously showered Georgia with money. its airfields were needed to strike in the north of Iran, but now everything has changed and interest in it has disappeared. What Georgia has - barge and wine, how to enter the market where Beaujolais, Mezelskoye and Don Perenyon are atrocious, nothing. And do not forget, the defeat of Georgia coincided with the onset of the crisis and the United States now has problems with financing its civil servants, and Europe has bankrupt Greece and Portugal. There is no one to shower Georgians with generous gifts, and in Russia Kindzmarauli has a very warm attitude. The new prezik can sincerely hate Russia, but it’s necessary to trade, it’s not crazy Misha, who from the phobia swelled the last money into bunkers. Yes, and the Orthodox Georgians, especially with the status of Adjara, the strengthening of new Ottomans may seem frightening.
            1. alone
              alone 30 October 2013 20: 49
              -9
              Quote: hrych
              because its airfields were needed to strike in the north of Iran, but now everything has changed and interest in it has disappeared.


              How can Georgian airfields be used to strike Iran? Georgia has no border with Iran.

              Quote: hrych
              Yes, and the Orthodox Georgians, especially with the status of Adjara, the strengthening of new Ottomans may seem frightening.


              Georgia is on the drum. Strengthening Turkish business in Adjara brings them a lot of money to the budget. Why only you Russians speak about new Ottomans, but you have never heard of such things from Georgians
              1. hrych
                hrych 30 October 2013 21: 23
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                I am purely Georgian quotes:

                Recently, in Georgia, more and more opinions have been voiced about the fact that the Turks will soon make up the majority of the population in Adjara and tear off the autonomous republic from Georgia. But experts admit that the influence of southern neighbors in Adjara is excessive: Turks are massively building everything here, from mosques to brothels, according to an analytical article by the GruzInform agency.
                Former Georgian Prime Minister Tengiz Sigua shares concerns about what is happening in Adjara. “There, almost all production was subordinated to the Turks. Here is another illustrative example. Batumi had a wonderful library. According to my information, the Turks bought it, opened a gambling house in it. 70% of investments in Georgia are from Turkey. It may be good if we did not give them leverage. Why is Turkey disposing of Batumi airport ?! ”, he told the VZGLYAD newspaper, noting that although Georgia has good relations with Turkey, such a strong influence is unacceptable.
                Another serious problem in Georgian-Turkish relations is the religious factor. Since the spring of this year, hundreds of people in Batumi periodically take part in rallies against the construction of a mosque in the capital of Adjara in honor of the Ottoman sultan Abdul Aziz. The action organizers claim that 180 mosques, as well as 60 madrassas and boarding schools, are already operating in Adjara. Participants in the protests noted that Sultan Abdul Aziz is the same sultan who "enslaved Adjara" and that "there is a Turkish expansion."
                The agency writes that a few weeks ago, the Georgian Foreign Ministry began to study complaints about the fact that in the history textbooks for Turkish high school students, the territory of Adjara along with Batumi is presented as part of Turkey. Representatives of the Georgian public demanded clarification from Turkish Ambassador Levent Burkhan. Ankara has already promised to deal with this and “fix” the textbooks.
                1. alone
                  alone 30 October 2013 21: 45
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                  and not a word was said about the airfields.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 30 October 2013 22: 51
                    +4
                    http://www.aif.ua/politic/news/44126
                    http://wlna.info/politika/28174-iran-mozhet-byt-atakovan-ssha-s-territorii-gruzi
                    i.html
                    The Bush House is not Bush, but the goals are the same, though after the failure in Syria, the United States is steeply changing its position on Iran and now including apparently leaked the head of Georgia to the mercy of the opposition, especially since the coup had already been completed when the prezik was deprived of royal authority.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 30 October 2013 23: 18
                      +3
                      If now there are air defense systems in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, then by 2008, of course, there wasn’t, and Azerbaijan, and even Armenia could be convinced by airplanes and miss, plus some state guarantees and until 2008 she didn’t try to rush into Russia’s arms and the CU, while considering ways to the EU.
                    2. alone
                      alone 30 October 2013 23: 23
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                      Hrych (excuse me, of course, I don’t know you) .You can write everything you can everywhere. Let's say Americans in Georgia planted 30 planes to strike at Iran. How will they go to bomb if they don’t have a common border? Do you think Armenia will allow them? I don’t think there is a Russian base there. Russia will not allow Armenia to provide its airspace for attacking Iran. Yes and Armenia is unprofitable. The Armenian-Iranian border is one of two unique opportunities for Armenia to enter the world. Azerbaijan and Iran have a signed agreement that the territory of the countries will not be used for military purposes + 25 to 30 million Azerbaijanis live there, do you think we will give the opportunity to bomb our own? Recently, even the Amers were refused access to the AWACS corridor for their planes. Not to mention the bombers. Turkey and Turkmenistan remain. Georgian airfields, if the United States Air Force base is in Incirlik? And the Turkmens are generally neutral, they even collaborated with the Taliban when the Afghan was under their control and there is still no ba Threat of NATO for Afghanistan.

                      Amers have bases in the Persian Gulf and air bases in Afghanistan to strike Iran. And do not forget about the Israeli Air Force.

                      the referee said Saakashvili by reference. you think his words are serious. his goal is just a sick paranoid. to indicate the importance of his country he could say anything.
                      1. hrych
                        hrych 30 October 2013 23: 37
                        +8
                        Misha rubbed Obama what was planned with Bush, before the US attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan, they tried to surround the victim with bases, especially from the side where there is no fleet, in particular, Manas appeared in Kyrgyzstan. The north of Iran, where nuclear facilities are concentrated and they are located in the depths of the territory, and the first blow was to be struck against them, namely from Transcaucasia. If Azerbaijan itself was negotiating the use of its airdromes for Israeli aviation, then America, and so far rarely has refused, Armenia is no exception. In general, a blow to a country such as Iran implies that it will simply not reckon with its smaller neighbors when the tamahawks fly. But Russia would simply remain silent and profit from expensive oil and would not want to quarrel over America over Iran. Now everything is different, unequivocally primarily after 2008. in Georgia and in 2013 in Syria, the vector has changed. First of all, the USA itself is changing course, which is Putin’s direct merit, because Forbes now puts him higher than Obama.
                      2. alone
                        alone 30 October 2013 23: 56
                        -3
                        Quote: hrych
                        If the same Azerbaijan was negotiating the use of its airfields for Israeli aviation, then America earlier,


                        there were no negotiations with Israel about this. The Americans launched this information, and it is surprising that many fell for this misinformation. As for this, empty words, which are unreasonable when asking about the facts, provide a link to a message on some newspaper , no one will ever use our territory against Iran. who needs Iran’s preemptive strikes because of the attacks of Israel or America. yes and look at the map. Do you think the Jews have nowhere else to hit? Why do you need such a huge hook through the whole region when you can safely enter and strike through northern Iraq, where there is no anti-aircraft defense system
                      3. hrych
                        hrych 31 October 2013 00: 08
                        +5
                        So, Colleague, we all use information from the media (if not from the RSU or the CIA), I agree that it is impossible to believe 100%, but there is no smoke without fire. According to Israeli aviation, the rumor was that they should have sat down after the strike to reduce the likelihood of being shot down on the way back and to solve fuel problems, which is not Azerbaijan’s aggression against Iran, but fits into military-technical cooperation with Israel and here in general, there is nothing to worry about. I repeat that striking Iran is a serious matter globally and will bring down international law. The PLA will move into the CA and not only all the agreements will not matter. Thank God this script has now subsided.
                      4. alone
                        alone 31 October 2013 00: 51
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                        30 million of ours live there. Would you allow anyone to use your territory to bomb the country where 30 million Russians would live? God, why does everyone think that apart from the Russians, are we all that fell from the oak tree to allow some crooks to bomb our own people
                      5. hrych
                        hrych 31 October 2013 01: 10
                        +6
                        There is a country with a population of under 200 million and even with nuclear weapons - it is Pakistan, it seems even an Islamic state, but the Americans fly there on their helicopters and airplanes, shoot whatever they want, launch drones who shoot wedding processions, etc. It’s just that America is too strong and neither Ilham nor Erdogan, and even more so the former Misha will not refuse them, otherwise one tamahawk may fly into the wrong palace.
          2. smersh70
            smersh70 31 October 2013 00: 46
            -5
            Quote: lonely
            and not a word was said about the airfields.

            Comrade Judge, he doesn’t know that Georgia does not border Iran and Armenia and Azerbaijan are still between them. laughing put him a deuce in geography ... wassat
            1. hrych
              hrych 31 October 2013 00: 56
              +9
              We will not be rude, but for Developed countries, believe me, all the countries of the Transcaucasus are dwarfs and their opinion is considered insofar as it is. The fate of Georgia is an example when some people thought that the distant giant would protect him from the middle-sized halfling, but everything turned out wrong. No offense, but in Transcaucasia all countries are circumcised, only the coolest Armenians, they are the only ones who expanded the territory at the expense of their neighbors and if Georgia was divided, no matter how you say a superpower, then Azerbaijan is divided by Armenians. If you carefully read the comments, it was about flying over Karabakh, a joke, a military airfield — infrastructure and work of specialists, which only Georgia could provide in the Caucasus — a protectorate of the Bush family. And unfortunately I didn’t come up with this, but I read the media publications and the funniest thing of the United States origin.
        2. pahom54
          pahom54 31 October 2013 11: 42
          +2
          Here look, what insanity !!! At one time, Georgia asked for many years under the wing of the Russian tsars, and, as far as I remember, Tsar Alexander (in my opinion, if I'm not mistaken) didn’t really want to take them under his guardianship. But he took it. Now Russia is accused of all mortal sins - all that Georgia has is bad - Russia is guilty of everything !!!
          There is nothing to say about the change of course - you look at how the new president spent his childhood, adolescence, and where he studied - there’s no need to explain whose protégé he was.
          And the nonsense about the fact that OUR pilot carried the Olympic flame, that Russia violated any norms by this - would shut up !!! All over the world, during the time of the Olympic wars, wars stopped (more precisely, armistice was concluded), and Georgia, at the beginning of the Olympic Games, STARTED THE WAR !!!
          And in general, are we not paying much attention to a "sovereign territory" equal in area to one of the regions, for example, Krasnoyarsk or Khabarovsk krai ???
    2. KBPC50
      KBPC50 31 October 2013 07: 53
      0
      Misha did everything to strengthen the Ottomans in Georgia, even the bastard sold land owned by Georgian citizens. I won’t be surprised if the next ruler of the Georgians will be some Osman - Pasha (godfather)
  • yurii p
    yurii p 31 October 2013 09: 06
    +1
    "The elections were honestly held ... the President lost and left ... what's wrong with that ... this happens in normal states ...." ............. in normal states, but Georgia is not a state, this is the state of Georgia2 and there were no presidential elections, but the elections of the state governor, do not be mistaken, and in the American state a candidate with a pro-Russian bias will never come to power, so congratulations on the new governor of the state.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 30 October 2013 19: 11
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    Quote: Canep
    In the West, these elections have been called democratic and legitimate.

    This is what immediately alerted. Like this: so much effort was invested in dog training and on you ... He flew not only from the presidents, but also as a politician - a complete zero. Most likely they have already trained another ...
  • The fat man
    The fat man 30 October 2013 23: 35
    -2
    please tell me when was the last time you were in Georgia
  • smersh70
    smersh70 31 October 2013 02: 03
    -1
    Quote: Canep
    the remnants of Georgian industry will go down in history,

    Georgia took 8th place in the annual Doing Business 2014 ranking of the World Bank and the International Finance Corporation (IFC), rising one more place in a year.
    According to News-Georgia, the country takes a position after the Republic of Korea, ahead of countries such as Norway and the United Kingdom in the top ten leaders.
    Georgia’s indicator, like the last few years, is the best among the post-Soviet countries.
    Tops the world ranking for creating the most favorable business environment for the eighth consecutive year Singapore. In addition to him, the top ten leaders included: Hong Kong, New Zealand, USA, Denmark, Malaysia, the Republic of Korea, Georgia, Norway and the United Kingdom.
    After Georgia from the countries of the former Soviet Union comes Lithuania (17th place), Estonia (22), Latvia (24), Armenia (37), Kazakhstan (50), Belarus (63), Kyrgyzstan (68), Azerbaijan (70), Moldova ( 78). Russia - at 92 place, followed by Ukraine (112), Tajikistan (143), Uzbekistan (146).
    1. goldfinger
      goldfinger 31 October 2013 03: 29
      -1
      Neighbor is Belarusian. An interesting site, don't you think, Smersh70? Here they put minuses for statistical data if they do not climb into the hardened skin of the "Unified Russian textbook on .... everything." At first I was surprised, then I got used to it.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 31 October 2013 12: 01
        0
        Quote: goldfinger
        Neighbor Belarus. An interesting site, do not you find Smersh70?

        hi land !!!!!!!!!!! I agree with you completely .. sometimes I was minuscated even for a clearly obvious event wassat and even for the same thoughts that in other comments received pluses laughing
      2. hrych
        hrych 31 October 2013 17: 35
        +2
        And what statistics are given, have you even entered? Investments include cash injections from abroad, incl. loans, purchase by foreigners of land, enterprises, etc. If Korea invests in high-tech enterprises in R., then the Georgians were given money for the army, which they split up, but Misha set up bunkers near Tiflis in psychosis. Since Korea is a comparison, then compare the successes in engineering, shipbuilding, energy and radio electronics, so in Georgia this is not mentioned. That the Turks are buying Adjara with giblets and building brothels with mosques - these investments delight you. Compare Vanuyu Singapore where all money is laundered including from drugs. The Baltic countries scored loans to fill holes in the budget, so you have to repay yes with interest, such investments. For investment and business, i.e. investment attractiveness for capitalists and bankers, when local princes are sold off-hand and you can rob resources with impunity.
  • Peaceful military
    Peaceful military 30 October 2013 18: 20
    11
    Alas, the analyst is absolutely right.sad
    Liberators on both sides of the border have done something that makes it impossible to grow together. The "partners" rub their hands together.
    It is believed that in the long run, everything will return to normal. Lost battles, war not yet lost.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 October 2013 18: 22
    10
    I think the same "tangerine" will only be more cunning ... Somehow everything is smooth there and Mishiko is joyful .. bully
  • mivmim
    mivmim 30 October 2013 18: 35
    +3
    Horseradish radish is not sweeter.
  • serge
    serge 30 October 2013 18: 47
    +3
    One shvili was replaced by another. As they say, not all Georgians with a surname in Shvili are Jews, but all Georgian Jews have Shvili in the end. Congratulations to Georgia with the next Jewish president. And he would be friends with Russia.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 30 October 2013 19: 32
      +6
      Quote: serge
      One shvili was replaced by another. As they say, not all Georgians with a surname in Shvili are Jews, but all Georgian Jews have Shvili in the end. Congratulations to Georgia with the next Jewish president. And he would be friends with Russia.
      fool
      If do you think that who Jugha wasshvili, and even with a suspiciously Jewish name "Joseph"? If only Comrade Stalin would be surprised to learn that he would be posthumously registered as a Jew. You at least, before looking for another "Zionist conspiracy", turn on your brains.
      1. morpex
        morpex 31 October 2013 01: 53
        +3
        Quote: Nagan
        You at least, before looking for another "Zionist conspiracy", turn on your brains.

        And by the way, carefully look at the genealogy of all the Kremlin leaders, including Dzhugashvili. I assure you that you will be very surprised by what you read. Then we’ll talk about the Zionist conspiracy. By the way, things are even worse in the states. Read Grigory Klimov. By the way, this is not prose. Unogo all facts are confirmed by serious literature ..
      2. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 31 October 2013 08: 15
        +2
        And he was them!
  • Polovec
    Polovec 30 October 2013 18: 57
    23
    It seems to me that we pay too much attention to Georgia, Ukraine, Moldova, etc. They chose their own president, and they did. Not to us! Spit on them and forget! We have our own country and our interests. And relations should be built only on the basis of this. Profitable - trade. Do not go for a walk. Rude to punish. To expect from them that they will build their lives focusing on us is simply naive idiocy.
  • Omskgasmyas
    Omskgasmyas 30 October 2013 19: 07
    +7
    Adolf Aloizych was also initially elected democratically. It is then from the popularly elected tyrants grow.
    By the way, today democracy is not the rule of the people, as some people think, but the power of "democrats", which is not the same thing.
  • Polovec
    Polovec 30 October 2013 19: 36
    +1
    The peculiarity of Russia is that the more enemies it surrounds, the faster it develops. We are the brakes! We need to cheer up! wink yes laughing drinks soldier
    1. Black
      Black 30 October 2013 19: 56
      +3
      Quote: Polovec
      We are the brakes!


      But generalizations are not necessary. Not in Estonia, tea.
      1. Polovec
        Polovec 30 October 2013 20: 05
        +3
        We are different brakes! "The Russian harnesses for a long time, but drives fast", "Until the thunder breaks out, the man crosses himself", "Until the roasted rooster pecks", etc. In short, we are extreme - the engine of progress! wink
        And Estonians are just BRAKES. Nothing will help them. smile
  • priapman
    priapman 30 October 2013 19: 38
    +7
    and where did you get this ... if investments increase every year ... salary rises ... you probably haven't been to Georgia for a long time ...
    So it is so, but if you find the statistics of the Georgian "development", you will see that the main Georgian enterprises that bring the "loot" are concentrated in the hands of their Western tailors, and the business is in the light industry. and agriculture every year it gets worse and worse, stability is only in the energy sector. This increases the credit "support" from the EU, UN and the United States. Georgia's external debt as of October 31, 2011 amounted to 4 thousand dollars (252% of GDP), which in per capita terms was equal to 236 dollars.
    As of March 31.03.2012, 11, gross external debt amounted to 398 thousand dollars. Georgia will be squeezed out like a washcloth and ... similar scenarios already existed.
    1. ty60
      ty60 30 October 2013 20: 40
      +1
      quite right
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 31 October 2013 00: 54
      -2
      Quote: priapman
      and agricultural every year worse and worse

      this is pure lies! export of Georgian agricultural products to Azerbaijan alone increased by 41% and totaled about 9 million dollars in just 650 months .. all here predicted the end of Georgian wine ... and the share of Russia fell 2 places to 6 place in terms of the volume of wine sold. ..the wine has now gone to other markets ... a holy place does not happen empty .. yes, the Russian market is huge ... but the whole world does not end there either .....
      Quote: priapman
      the money-making are concentrated in the hands of their western tailors,

      as if in our country or in Russia all enterprises belong to local oligarchs wassat
      Quote: priapman
      external debt amounted to 11 thousand dollars.


      By the way, the largest external debt from the United States and China ... and that)))) Romania also paid external debt during Ceausescu’s time and was proud of it .. and that))))
  • Serg 122
    Serg 122 30 October 2013 19: 42
    -3
    Yana Ameline ......

    Who is it? Where from? I remember one such "specialist on Syria" was also somewhere ... Now here - "expert on Georgia" was found fool
    1. Polovec
      Polovec 30 October 2013 19: 49
      +3
      Yes, even Baba Yaga! We are not discussing it, but the topic!
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    3. Black
      Black 30 October 2013 20: 11
      +2
      Quote: Serg 122
      Who is it? Where from?

      But in vain you. Amelina is a very good analyst on Russian-Georgian relations. Russian political scientist, head of the Caucasian studies sector, Center for Research on Problems of the Near Abroad Countries of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies. Very smart.
      And most importantly, the rights in this, discussed.
      But I would not paint everything in such black colors.
      Politics is the art of the possible. The Georgian authorities, with all their desire (and there is none), will not be able to rush into our arms, and even more so on our knees. Someone was expecting the new government to start banging its head on the floor and sprinkling ashes on its head? So far, it is enough that Ivanishvili publicly, on camera, in the presence of the idiot Saki, declared him the culprit of the war. Is this not enough? In my opinion, this is a lot.
      Statements, screams and hysteria are largely for internal use. Let the exalted audience swagger. The overwhelming majority of Georgian people are for FRIENDSHIP with Russia. And we should not blow our lips and make ourselves offended. It is necessary to establish broad trade, open the border, albeit with a visa to begin with.
      1. Polovec
        Polovec 30 October 2013 23: 01
        +7
        What Georgians cannot refuse is that they themselves really choose their power. And the power there voices the masses. There is no love for Russia there. They acknowledge that Saakashvili has messed up with Ossetia and Abkhazia. But the fact that the territories left them under the protectorate of Russia is clear to them and they do not want to put up with it. There is no question of any love. It does not matter to them that the actual separation occurred back in 1992. You do not expect love between Turks and Greeks? Between them is Cyprus. For Georgians, you just need to score and equip your country. The West needs them only as a bridgehead. It will be sweet with us - everything will be settled by itself. And you should not indulge in anything! The tougher the better. FIG their goods! And there is no need from Russia to make a stash for the Georgian bandit - there are enough of them. To the homeland of all of them! Let them live there!
      2. Serg 122
        Serg 122 31 October 2013 00: 00
        +2
        But in vain you. Amelina is a very good analyst on Russian-Georgian relations. Russian political scientist, head of the Caucasian studies sector, Center for Research on Problems of the Near Abroad Countries of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies. Very smart.
        That's why I asked - because I don’t know who it is. I don’t know what deserved the minus - obviously the fans of this lady are not asleep.
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 31 October 2013 00: 57
          +1
          Quote: Serg 122
          I don’t know what deserved the minus -


          I warned YOU my friend! to speak here in support of Uncle Misha is a bad job laughing comments here .. basically agree with me .. and most of all I have red color laughing..... so be careful ... good
        2. kush62
          kush62 31 October 2013 04: 52
          -1
          Quote: That's why I asked - because I do not know who it is. I don’t know what deserved the minus - obviously the fans of this lady are not asleep.

          What are you backing down. Just like a real politician. And the cunning Caucasian "friend" quickly caught on. And I don't know who she is. But here's your question:

          Quote: Who is this? Where from? I remember one such "expert on Syria" was also somewhere ... Now here - "expert on Georgia" was found.

          I didn’t ask, but I was laughing. There is a difference however.
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 30 October 2013 19: 48
    +3
    The author’s phrase was killed contrary to the interests of the consumer, Borjomi and wine were allowed, a person who until recently worked in the Russian Federation was very interested in the interests of the consumer, they took everything Georgian with a hap and constantly asked and demanded until permission, although they were told with no such reason, the ban what started, well, maybe somehow, somewhere))) Although Borjomi always stood in our table)))
    And about the president, anti-Russian, pro-Russian, well, let’s the people be realists, Russian troops enter Georgia, give independence to 2 regions of Georgia and someone really believes that a pro-Russian politician will appear there ??? There may be a politician who speaks less harshly, but not more.
    I say in advance that there is no need to start a srach about the reasons for the beginning of the war and its culprits. The troops entered, the Ossetians and Abkhaz gained independence.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 30 October 2013 22: 20
      0
      In principle, I agree, but that’s why they also should not start
      an old song about "finding a common language with the Abkhaz and Ossetians" and the construction of a new Georgia, "which will be interesting for both Abkhazians and Ossetians."

      They did not enter the troops, Ossetians and Abkhazians received war and genocide. They, too, will not voluntarily take off their conversation. Although I am personally wary of the Abkhazians, there is talk of persecution of the Russians.
    2. Jack7691
      Jack7691 31 October 2013 10: 14
      0
      I would not want to be rude, but I want to say - you forgot. Why did Russian troops enter Georgia and give independence? Yes, because they died because of the Georgian RUSSIAN SOLDIERS !!!
      And this is without "crap" about the reasons ...
  • Vaskes
    Vaskes 30 October 2013 19: 48
    +3
    With the new choice of the Georgian people, hardly anything will change and the "Georgian Dream" will remain
  • Migari
    Migari 30 October 2013 19: 58
    +1
    And why be surprised if the majority of Georgian citizens (57%) consider Russia an enemy, while only 30% of Georgians are ready to call it another, Georgia-Online reports, citing data from a study by the International Republican Institute.
    1. Black
      Black 30 October 2013 20: 17
      +2
      Quote: Migari
      And why be surprised if the majority of Georgian citizens (57%) consider Russia an enemy, while only 30% of Georgians are ready to call it another, Georgia-Online reports, citing data from a study by the International Republican Institute.

      Don't read this on an empty stomach !!!! This is bullshit. There is no hatred and hostility towards Russia there! "Georgia is online (or somewhere else !!) I want it, but I can't.
      1. Jack7691
        Jack7691 31 October 2013 12: 19
        0
        No, not nonsense - Georgians always wanted to use the Russians for their own well-being, while considering themselves a "white bone." For example, Kikabidze, the audience's favorite, personally declared that he had always hated Russians.
        And the Georgians, who still don’t speak nasty things in the eyes, are idols (the voiceless "singer" Pavliashvili, etc.). They said aloud "we are lubim Rassiya" - and the hares and ears hung ...
  • Kirzhak
    Kirzhak 30 October 2013 20: 20
    +1
    And all this despite the fact that the Russian market, contrary to the interests of the consumer and the foreign policy objectives of the Russian Federation, has long been open for Georgian wine and Borjomi water (which is frankly inferior to Russian mineral waters, both in quality and in price).
    Sure. What am I? In our pharmacies, 0.5 Borjomi costs under one hundred rubles, and my favorite "Krasnousolskaya" is only 16 rubles for one and a half liters.
    1. Sour
      Sour 30 October 2013 21: 12
      +4
      Quote: Kirzhak
      Sure. What am I? In our pharmacies, 0.5 Borjomi costs under one hundred rubles, and my favorite "Krasnousolskaya" is only 16 rubles for one and a half liters.

      So Georgian wine is the same. Compare with Italian, and you will feel the difference. And the prices are the same. And the Georgian cognac did not stand next to Dagestan or Stavropol, and the price is higher.
      Where are they with the pork snout in the Kalash line (i.e., on the Russian market)?
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 31 October 2013 02: 07
        0
        Quote: Sour
        So Georgian wine is the same. Compare with Italian, and you will feel the difference.

        then read this))) ----

        At present, only one investment project is officially known - in particular, the Russian company Vinograd has begun designing a winery in Georgia.
        According to Kommersant radio, the Vinograd wine company will build raw materials processing enterprises in Georgia and become the largest, if not the only, wine exporter to Russia.
        It is planned to build three wineries. The amount of investments will be 10 million lari.
        According to the "Coordination Center for International Investments", the enterprises will be located in Kakheti, construction will begin immediately upon completion of the design.
        Presentation of enterprises will be held in December.
  • Arkan
    Arkan 30 October 2013 20: 25
    +2
    The theater of the absurd continues, dumb extras wave flags, front-end actors utter pathetic dialogs, extras chant slogans, business behind the scenes, they don’t speak Georgian on the ground.
  • Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 30 October 2013 20: 27
    +7
    it doesn’t matter how someone in Georgia was chosen. chopped chunk ..
    1. Sour
      Sour 30 October 2013 21: 07
      +2
      Quote: Ragnarek
      it doesn’t matter how someone in Georgia was chosen. chopped chunk ..

      I agree completely. Georgia simply cannot have a regime oriented towards Russia.
      The same goes for Ukraine. It’s just that not everyone realized this, and not everyone came to terms with it. But these are their problems. People’s brains are stuck in the distant past.
      Once, after the voyage of Magellan, not everyone came to terms with the sphericity of the Earth. People who used to live with old myths have always had enough. And now enough.
      1. Gunsmith
        Gunsmith 30 October 2013 21: 37
        +2
        Yeah. Not so long ago (after the Biryulev events) Zyuga was pushing angry speech (like a sweatshirt in his ear) - they say peace-friendship, there are 180 nationalities in the country (well, understated, we were told - 185) ... I neighing: * Man, what kind of Do you live in a country? * For a long time there is no Union, but he lives all the time in Sesere. Pure populism. Everyone ran away. The realities are such, and everyone knows - Georgia is the aggressor, the first attacked Abkhazia (was there immediately after the first war), the first attacked Ossetia, the first abandoned all political and economic (with all the ensuing) relations with Russia. These are the facts. So the earth is still round, as if the opposite were not stated by some not quite adequate gyrographs.
  • old rocket man
    old rocket man 30 October 2013 21: 56
    +4
    Ay, -Yana Amelina, as it sounds musically, and smiled not childishly, - "... the Russian Governor-General in the Vorontsov Palace." She must also give the Olympic torch to vilify. Then the screeching will rise. They will immediately forget about the pilot laughing laughing
  • APASUS
    APASUS 30 October 2013 21: 56
    0
    You shouldn’t put your trust in Georgia, and so it was clear. Whoever comes to power, they will all be pro-Westerners. To be honest, anyway, who is in power now, the only thing I wanted was an ADEQUATE neighbor with a reasonable policy.
    I would advise the Georgians to take a moratorium on all sorts of introductions to take care of themselves, their country.
    Maybe after 10 years, the country looked at its future more realistically, but this is the business of the Georgians.
  • Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 30 October 2013 21: 58
    +1
    Too much honor for this election.
    In any situation, the election - either there or here.
    But in fact, due to the roundness of the problems, the result is the same.
    Wolves are full, and in lambs wool and meat become softer and more plentiful ...
    This is what science teaches.
    Moreover, the notions of politicians about the political orientation of the problems are smoke bombs in the hands of savages.
    .
    Example.
    The communist USSR was replaced by imperialist Russia.
    So what?
    All foreign policy problems remained, and even internal ones increased ...
  • Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 30 October 2013 22: 02
    +2
    It is necessary to take note of a fait accompli: Georgia will never become a friendly state in relation to Russia. Too strong "tutelage" of the USA, the European Union and NATO. With Saakashvili's departure, the odiousness and unpredictability of the Georgian political elite will somewhat diminish.
    1. Sour
      Sour 30 October 2013 22: 09
      +4
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Too strong "tutelage" of the US, EU and NATO

      I do not agree.
      The reasons are deeper. Russophobia is a long-standing, traditional part of the Georgian mentality (as well as Estonian or Latvian, for example). And the elite’s odiousness and orientation toward NATO is a consequence, not a cause of Georgian Russophobia.
      However, this applies not only to Georgia, but also to some other states.
      1. voliador
        voliador 30 October 2013 23: 08
        0
        The reason is the training in the states of the entire so-called elite with the weights! Don’t you think that they taught accusation and others there to love Russia?
  • voliador
    voliador 30 October 2013 22: 59
    +3
    collection of signatures for a petition against Georgia’s participation in the Sochi Winter Olympics
    How scared everyone was! Yes x ... th to your Georgia, nobody will notice its absence !!! laughing
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  • x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 30 October 2013 23: 31
    +1
    Maybe Yana Ameline is right, wait and see. No one especially here in Russia will not be upset. Everyone is already used to the fact that there are no relations with Georgia. And Russia practically does not lose anything from this.
  • mihasik
    mihasik 30 October 2013 23: 48
    +7
    No comment (about the USSR) ...
  • PUHACH
    PUHACH 31 October 2013 00: 13
    +4
    Quote: Canep
    Democracy is the power of the people in the interests of the people.
    For democracy-this is for us, in Belarus)))))))))))
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 31 October 2013 01: 00
      -3
      Quote: PUHACH
      For democracy-this is for us, in Belarus)))))))))))


      YOU, too, my advice .. less oppose the Old Man ... otherwise you will always be all in red laughing
  • cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 31 October 2013 01: 03
    0
    Quote: PUHACH
    The country obviously needs external management, and it must be carried out by the previous methods - by the forces of the Russian governor-general from the Vorontsov Palace, on Rustaveli Avenue in Tiflis

    Why the heck do we need them, arrogant z-a-s-r-a-n-s-s, to manage them? Then you will have to feed them, no second time, it's not the business to get into the same g-o-in-n-o. Let this "proud and freedom-loving people" feed the State Department P-i-n-d-o-s-t-a-n-s-k-i-y, and Russia 70 years was enough to understand who was fed.
    1. Lawless
      Lawless 31 October 2013 09: 01
      0
      Since 1801, the Turks were beaten for them. Dzhigits fled at the sight of the Turks))))
  • Known who
    Known who 31 October 2013 04: 21
    0
    Rapprochement with Russia is more necessary for Georgia than for Russia. Tactical weapons in the person of Rospotrebndzor with one stroke of a pen will easily end a significant part of Georgia’s business, and while the Georgians will again yell about the arbitrariness of the Russians, which again will push the states apart. The sooner Georgian business understands that no one needs it in the West, the better the Georgian people and Georgian business will be.
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 31 October 2013 05: 02
    +6
    The Georgians made their choice ... Actually, there was nothing to choose from - all the candidates were all the same. So turnout is therefore 46,5%
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 31 October 2013 05: 25
    +2
    Much has already been written here, and yet let my opinion be. Georgia has chosen the path, well, this is the right of its people. To be honest, I’m not at all interested in what and how there is in Georgia. When the Georgian army killed Russian peacekeepers, then for me Georgia ceased to be the country with which it is necessary to establish peaceful, good-neighborly relations
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 31 October 2013 14: 44
      0
      Quote: vladsolo56
      . When the Georgian army killed Russian peacekeepers, then for me Georgia ceased to be the country with which it is necessary to establish peaceful, good-neighborly relations

      Similarly, even though before that I had no illusions about the whole Georgian people. good yes hi
  • Same lech
    Same lech 31 October 2013 05: 30
    +1
    When the Georgian army killed Russian peacekeepers, then for me Georgia ceased to be the country with which it is necessary to establish peaceful, good-neighborly relations

    I agree.
    She made a choice and the leadership of GEORGIA can be treated as well as the governments of ESTONIA, LATVIA, LITHUANIA (there will be a reward in their affairs)
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 31 October 2013 08: 26
    +1
    Georgia killed ours (no matter who they were by nationality), carried out genocide. Why is it better than fascism or Ukrainian nationalism. I’ve never been to Georgia and haven’t. The Turks will put on their knees.
  • Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 31 October 2013 09: 25
    0
    Quote: Vaskes
    With the new choice of the Georgian people, hardly anything will change and the "Georgian Dream" will remain

    Changed the awl for soap! wassat
  • Dimkapvo
    Dimkapvo 31 October 2013 10: 45
    +2
    Not worth the discussion, in my opinion. Although Mimino is in the presidents, what's the difference. They want to join NATO and Europe - for God's sake, for example, I want Vera Brezhnev - who will forbid me to want? And in general, Belarus has enough of my friends, I need to strengthen relations with them, I constantly go there on business trips - a wonderful country, wonderful people.
  • Michael_59
    Michael_59 31 October 2013 11: 17
    +1
    I am amazed at anyone, and above all, my fellow citizens, naive hopes for any changes in connection with the election of a new president of Georgia.
    In a country whose religion, statehood and sovereignty (and simply physical existence) were saved by Russia from destruction by both external enemies and civil strife - and which, two centuries later, led by a Western hand, begins to kill Russian people, unleashing a military conflict?
    What are you speaking about? Georgia is not a state - it is a US colony, a springboard for Freemasonry in the Caucasus, and they do not need a strong Georgia, the strong often become independent. Therefore, the brains of the population will be washed (we recall, by the way, the tests of infra-guns on living people during the dispersal of demonstrations opposition to the tie-eater), the ruling elite will obediently execute the commands of foreign owners, the economy will be exactly in that state to prevent an uncontrollable social reaction of the population. Even if something develops, then all the money will go to those who will invest in this development - and who is investing? Loyal vassals of the United States with claims to regional dominance, such as Turkey, for example. History does not forgive such mistakes - they spat on their savior - well, so "welcom" for use by old offenders ... There is some kind of justice in this ... Just not at the level of ordinary people - why should they suffer ?? ? It's a pity...
  • Fobos-grunt
    Fobos-grunt 31 October 2013 11: 19
    +1
    Quote: Migari
    And why be surprised if the majority of Georgian citizens (57%) consider Russia an enemy.

    And who are the judges? Who organizes the calculations? Openly loving Russia in Georgia is fraught with difficulties for career and business. As the example with the artist Grigory "Leps" LEPSveridze showed He was immediately enrolled in the mafia (http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1726581.html)

    The new president and Georgia’s political obligations remain the same
  • individual
    individual 31 October 2013 12: 54
    0
    Quote:
    "There are no, and in the foreseeable future, there will be no not only pro-Russian, but at least pro-Georgian politicians ..."

    This is the root of the problem, that Tbilisi’s elite is not building Georgian statehood, but a crooked likeness of the state of Georgia.
    Impossible being historically and geographically in Eurasia, and in dreams and dreams in America.
    America will help them, our libers have already passed in the 90s, and the Georgian "Burbulis", "Gaidars" and "Kozyrevs" have yet to do this.
    But the Georgian people have not yet understood this.
    Well "Jedem das seine"!
  • Al shahini
    Al shahini 31 October 2013 14: 08
    +1
    Actually, what could be expected from the elections in Georgia.
    While Russia will flounder in the swamp of its export-raw material economy, and the West will feed Georgia, Russia will be attractive only to Georgian thieves in law and man purse.

    Georgia, like any "well, a very sovereign country", will go where it is nourishing and warmer. For the time being, they think that this is the West. We see the same thing now with Ukraine.
  • Prapor-527
    Prapor-527 31 October 2013 15: 20
    0
    Quote: hrych
    Misha, who, from a phobia, swelled the last money into bunkers

    He served in Georgia 93-94 in one of the bunkers you are talking about - the city of Mtskheta, ZKP of the headquarters of the GRVZ, the object "Zveda" of military unit 28661. After the withdrawal of the GRVZ, the object was transferred to Georgia ... owns information) - how was the fate of the "object"?, was it Saakashvilli's neckties devoured in his opera house during the Georgian-Ossetian war?
  • xcvxc73
    xcvxc73 31 October 2013 15: 27
    0
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