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Saudi Arabia: America, come on, bye

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If Qatar continues to follow the United States and even gathered, according to proven rumors, to move from war to friendship with Syria, against which the White House just decided not to use Tomahawk, Saudi Arabia does not share its enthusiasm with its neighbor and competitor. Moreover, disappointed Riyadh decided to disperse from the United States altogether. The list of reasons for geopolitical chilling is vast and will be longer than the list of the differences between characters that divorcing spouses expose to each other.




A few days ago, Prince Bandar bin Sultan announced the withdrawal of Saudi Arabia from the orbit of Washington. According to Reuters, while talking to a certain European diplomat, the prince, who works as the chief of the intelligence service, hinted at the disappointment of his homeland with the policy of the United States.

It was about Syria. It turned out that the United States is not a state that could cope with the crisis in Syria.

The prince scout does not like the fact that the White House indulges Tehran. (By the way, in the light of Obama’s stalling of the next portion of sanctions against Iran, Bin Sultan’s statement turned out to be even prophetic. And by the way: Iran is Saudi Arabia’s raw material rival.)

Finally, Mr. Scout remembered the old: in 2011, the United States did not support the suppression of the anti-government uprising in Bahrain — they did not act in the same team as the Saudis.

The Saudis demarche was relatively calm in Washington.

As the correspondent reported ITAR-TASS Yulia Romanova, the statement of Prince Bandar bin Sultan will not change the "foundations of relations" between the kingdom and the United States. This was announced at a press briefing for journalists by the deputy head of the US State Department press service Marie Harf.

Moreover, the US Foreign Office "did not receive such a message" from Riyadh, said the State Department spokeswoman. She added: “We are cooperating in solving many difficult tasks, and I would say that we are pursuing the same goals, whether we are talking about ending the civil war in Syria, returning the democratic government in Egypt or preventing Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapons. The basis of our relations and cooperation with Saudi Arabia is solid. ”

If you look into the past, the friendship of the Americans with the Saudis is really “strong”: after all, it is sealed with petrodollars. And just this year, this strong strategic "friendship" marks 40 years. Anniversary, however!

In 1973, the United States, in order to support global demand for its currency, actually created petrodollars. Between the USA and Saudi Arabia a deal was madeAccording to which every barrel of oil purchased from Saudi Arabia was nominated in US dollars. Moreover, according to the new rules, any country that would like to buy oil from Saudi Arabia, had to first exchange the national currency for US dollars.

In exchange for Saudi Arabia’s readiness to supply its oil exclusively for dollars, the United States offered it weapons and protection.

And by the year 1975 all the OPEC countries decided to estimate their own oil reserves exclusively in US dollars - and also in exchange for arms and military protection.

Thus arose the global petrodollar system, which quickly created artificial demand for the American currency throughout the world. With the further increase in world demand for oil, the demand for dollars also grew.

Austrian economist Jerry Robinson believes that the separation of 15 in August 1971 by President Richard Nixon August XNUMX was made just to get the opportunity to print and throw as many dollars into the world economy as America — with its unbridled consumption and unwillingness to save — need to.

Petrodollar system, prompts Jerry Robinson has proven to be extremely beneficial for the American economy. In addition to creating a market for affordable imported goods from different countries that need US dollars, the United States has gained more specific advantages: after all, America, in fact, now receives a “double credit” from each global oil transaction.

First, oil consumers have to buy it in US dollars. Second, the super-profits of oil-producing countries are then placed in US government debt securities, which are held in Western banks. (By the way, most of the Saudi assets that make up $ 690 billion, denominated in American securities.)

So, petrodollars provide at least three benefits for the United States: with such a system of calculations, the demand for US dollars increases; growing demand for valuable US debt securities; Finally, the system gives the United States the opportunity to buy oil for a currency that can ... be printed at will.

From here, let us return to the words of Marie Harf, and a strong friendship: “The basis of our relations and cooperation with Saudi Arabia is strong.”

Earlier, before the Saudi prince spoke with an unnamed diplomat (and maybe with several diplomats) and got into the Reuters report, Riyadh was noted in the media with another demarche: a rejection of a seat on the UN Security Council. Saudi Arabia is confident that “double standards” are flourishing in this very Council. The argument was given the Palestinian issue, which is not solved for decades. Riyadh also recalled that the Security Council did not stop the war in Syria, did not clear the Middle East of WMD, and so on and so forth. In short, the Security Council did not do all that, we read between the lines, which would be beneficial to Riyadh.

Speaking with a diplomat, Prince Bin Sultan, according to Reuters, stated that his state very soon "will significantly change the foreign policy course" and will reconsider relations with the United States. The prince’s message was that from now on Riyadh did not want to spin like a weather vane under the American wind.

Interestingly, the prince worked for more than two decades as the ambassador of his country in Washington. That is, he understands what he is talking about. He understands and with whom he speaks. If at that time (1983-2005), when he was ambassador, with the USA on the world stage could not be reckoned with, today this time has gone history. Gone forever.

Channel "RT" With reference to The Washington Post, October 28 conveyed the opinion of US Senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain, published by them in a newspaper column. Graham and McCain believe the Obama administration is losing ground in strategically important regions. In addition to the Syrian issue, senators wrote about the Middle East in general - and about Saudi Arabia in particular.

"Worst of all, the failure of the Obama administration in Syria is part of a broader crisis of US authority in the Middle East."


And further:

"According to the latest reports, Israel and our partners in the Gulf countries no longer believe in the competence, potential and wisdom of the administration’s diplomacy in this region."


Senators believe that US relations with Saudi Arabia are rapidly deteriorating, and this threatens America’s national interests. An example of deterioration is the decision of Saudi Arabia to abandon the position of a temporary member of the UN Security Council. In addition, according to a published report, Prince Bandar bin Sultan told diplomats that the decision was "a message for the United States, not for the United Nations." US senators summarize:

“Now the USA is experiencing a serious failure of its policy and a loss of prestige in the Middle East. Events in this region are developing in a dangerous direction, and there is little reason to expect that the Obama administration has a strategy to protect the interests and values ​​of the United States in this extremely important part of the world. ”


Pyotr Akopov (newspaper "Sight") cites an opinion about the Saudi decision of political analyst Vyacheslav Matuzov:

“I do not believe in any of the three arguments that they give. The explosion of discontent of the Saudi leadership is connected with the fact that America, by manipulating Saudi Arabia, does not take responsibility for the events and exposes her as a whipping boy. It all began with Afghanistan - at the request of the United States, the Saudis allocated money, sent weapons and money, created Al Qaeda and bin Laden. And when the Americans needed to get rid of bin Laden, they simply pointed a finger at Saudi Arabia, and the whole world after them believed that they were sponsors of international terrorism.

Several years ago, during the visit of a delegation of the Saudi shura (parliament) to Spain, deputies simply overwhelmed them with questions about why Saudi Arabia supported bin Laden and Al-Qaida. To which the head of the Saudi delegation bluntly said that yes, we helped them, we financed, but did so at the request of the American side, and it is not clear why today the entire responsibility falls on us, and not on the Americans. They were set up in Afghanistan, and now a similar situation is happening in Syria. ”


Riyadh felt, the analyst notes, that he was being re-substituted.

At the same time, he felt, let's add from himself, how the same rake hit him on the forehead a second time. Obviously, Prince Bin Sultan, who needs to know the American power corridors like the back of his hand, does not want to let America outplay him. It turns out, however, nothing more than a belated reaction. But who would have thought of a hundred and eighty degree turn? The Tomahawks were already ready, the carrier group was ready in the Mediterranean, Assad already “tyrant” crossed the red line drawn by Obama himself ... And suddenly the initiative of the Kremlin, the UN, the OPCW, chemical disarmament, the OPCW is given the Nobel Peace, Qatar is recorded on turn in the diplomatic reception in Damascus ... A terrible geopolitical miracle, as a result of which the Saudis are extreme.

Hey, the State Department is still some kind of "investigation" will order the "experts", and it turns out that Saudi Arabia is the number one enemy for the United States. Suddenly, Washington will learn that the Saudis do not have democracy and LGBT rights are systematically violated there, right down to the separation of the head of a caught gay from his own body. And there is not far to democratization. To privatize Saudi oil is the dream of every decent industrialist, especially one who knows how to spread rumors about the benefits of shale oil production in America.

Prince Bandar's late demarche. Qatar managed to dress up in the clothes of a peacemaker, Washington always insured itself with gosdepovskimi statements about the heterogeneity of the Syrian opposition and that he has no clear idea about the opposition, but has only an idea of ​​democracy, but Riyadh (like Ankara), not hesitating, armed and financed militants fighting against the Assad government, and is now doing the same. Saudi Arabia was in the role of extreme. Number one terrorist-Wahhabi is about to be pointed. According to weather forecasters, the Arab Spring is expected in Riyadh ...
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  1. svp67
    svp67 30 October 2013 08: 58
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    If it is true what is written here and plus the SA's activity in "solving" the "Syrian issue" - it seems that the "sheikhs" have ceased to like playing "secondary roles", they want to take the "first" roles. And since there, then, I do not want to be a predictor, but to be a war ...
    1. INTER
      INTER 30 October 2013 09: 02
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      If it is true what is written here and plus the SA's activity in "solving" the "Syrian issue" - it seems that the "sheikhs" have ceased to like playing "secondary roles", they want to take the "first" roles. And since there, then, I do not want to be a predictor, but to be a war ...

      What, the next challenger of the Arab spring ???
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 30 October 2013 09: 24
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        Quote: INTER
        What, the next challenger of the Arab spring ???

        The Saudis have not yet taken matters to the extreme, beyond which America can decide on democratization with the use of "axes" and other henchmen of "democratizers". From a military point of view, democratizing the Saudis is not a matter of doing, they are the same fighters as Obama - the Pope. But the garbage is that at the moment when hostilities do not even begin, but only seem possible to traders, the price of oil will skyrocket, and, accordingly, the economies of almost the entire world will be drained into the toilet. America actually imports little oil from the BV, more and more from Latin America, and even a huge strategic reserve that can be thrown into the market if necessary. But Europe, India, China, and Japan will collapse, and the US economy is too tied to these countries to survive this painlessly. Does America need it?
        1. avt
          avt 30 October 2013 09: 49
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          Quote: Nagan
          Does America need it?

          And how! Especially regarding the main lender of China. A lot of problems are solved right away. For all who owe - forgive.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 30 October 2013 10: 10
            15
            Quote: avt
            Quote: Nagan
            Does America need it?

            And how! Especially regarding the main lender of China. A lot of problems are solved right away. For all who owe - forgive.
            It will not turn out to overwhelm China alone, Europe and Japan will also collapse and pull America along with them. Yes, and China - you know how much he buys from America, and heavy equipment, and electronics (not household, but much more serious), and especially agricultural products? From the loss of the Chinese market, many companies in America will sneeze, the same Boeing, GE, Caterpillar, Monsanto, Conagra, and many smaller companies and farmers. I don’t think that Russia will be able and most importantly will want to buy what is now going to China, although in the case of oil flying to somewhere around $ 200-300 per barrel, Russia will bathe in money.
            So the Saudis will be democratized only if they really squeeze.
            1. Starfish
              Starfish 30 October 2013 10: 30
              +1
              "it looks like the" sheikhs "have ceased to like playing" second roles "

              nothing will help the Saudis, their song is sung. they have already been leaked. now it’s only a matter of time, when and how will the drain happen.
              neither in the first, nor in the second roles, nobody needs them anymore. neither caliphs, nor west nor east.
              1. olviko
                olviko 30 October 2013 14: 22
                +1
                "Nothing will help the Saud, their song is over."

                Well why, there is always a way out. For the Saudis, as well as for Israel, there is only one way out - to remove Obama physically. That, in general, is not so unrealistic, given the financial capabilities of the first and the powerful lobby of both in the United States, as well as the "democratic" tradition in this country of shooting unliked presidents. There would be a desire, but for the next Oswald the matter will not arise.
                1. Onotollah
                  Onotollah 30 October 2013 16: 29
                  +4
                  Quote: olviko
                  - remove Obama physically.

                  I beg you, does Obama sieve in the USA?
                  “... All the presidents, as we know, are independent, behind them are huge financial clans - usually the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. And all these disputes are needed only in order to develop a certain public opinion ... "
                  Here is an opinion at
                  www.pnp.ru/news/detail/38416
                  1. olviko
                    olviko 30 October 2013 18: 32
                    +4
                    "All presidents, as we know, are dependent, behind them are huge financial clans - as a rule, Rothschilds and Rockefellers"

                    This is an axiom, there is nothing to prove. But I think you will not deny that the removal of the president radically changes both the domestic and foreign policy of the United States. An example of this is the assassination of Kennedy. By starting to issue US Treasury notes, the President thereby "ran over" the so-called Federal Reserve, which, being an instrument of the invisible rulers, allowed them to control the financial situation not only in the United States, but throughout the world, through their controlled issuance of banknotes. (After the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Vice President Lyndon Johnson quietly returned to Federal Reserve notes.) Or, that the president was an active opponent of a military solution to the problems in Vietnam. (Three days after the assassination of Lyndon Johnson, he annulled the directive on the withdrawal of American troops from Vietnam, and when he became president in 1964, he significantly increased the American military presence there.) As you can see, one person seemed to be removed, but what sharp turns! If the question of life and death comes up, I think the Saudis and Israel can decide to organize this case.
                    1. Onotollah
                      Onotollah 30 October 2013 19: 14
                      +1
                      Quote: olviko
                      But I think you will not deny that the removal of the president fundamentally changes both US domestic and foreign policy.

                      You know, I would formulate this thesis as follows:
                      "A fundamental change in both US domestic and foreign policy leads to the removal of the president."
                      This somehow more accurately reflects the essence of the processes taking place in America.
                      Purely IMHO. hi
                2. Revolver
                  Revolver 30 October 2013 18: 37
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                  Quote: olviko
                  "nothing will help the Saud, their song is over.";

                  Well why, there is always a way out. For the Saudis, as well as for Israel, there is only one way out - to remove Obama physically. That, in general, is not so unrealistic, given the financial capabilities of the first and the powerful lobby of both in the United States, as well as the "democratic" tradition in this country of shooting unliked presidents. There would be a desire, but for the next Oswald the matter will not arise.

                  Well, nah.
                  With all my dislike for Obama, I absolutely do not want to be dunked. God forbid this happens, they will make of him a holy type M.L. King and Kennedy. Dermocrats, in the wake of sympathy, will become preziks a couple of times, and they will seize Congress, and they will divorce such liberalism that they will hiccup through generations, as it already happened when they wet those two.
                  No, let Obama quietly wait until he is released and quietly go into political oblivion with the reputation of the worst president since Carter (and maybe the worst of all time).
                  Now, if someone thread managed to pick up dirt on him for impeachment, then here I am with both hands. But the trouble is that it is slippery, it will turn out. Anyway, what is unacceptable to the Republican is completely excusable to the shit. If there was a shit in place of Nixon during Watergate, he would get away with it.
                  1. olviko
                    olviko 30 October 2013 19: 04
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                    "Shitcrats on a wave of sympathy will become preziks a couple more times, and even the Congress will be seized, and such liberalism will be divorced that it will hiccup in generations,"

                    Sorry, but I have to upset you. The next US presidential election will take place in 2016. Already, political scientists are trying on future candidates. They say that the Republicans will not be able to win the election, even if they put up for the presidential candidate George Washington, because they missed the blow about which in boxing they say: "the enemy swam." Republicans swam and now they have no chance in the next election, in addition, they do not have a bright enough candidate. But the Democrats can seriously please Russia with their future candidate - Mrs. Clinton. Such a counterpart for Putin is a gift.
                    1. Revolver
                      Revolver 30 October 2013 19: 20
                      +1
                      Quote: olviko
                      Republicans swam and now they have no chance in the next election, in addition, they do not have a bright enough candidate.

                      Yes, even Chris Christie, the current governor of NJ. By the way, he is known as a pragmatist, able to cooperate with the Democrats for the good of the cause.
            2. avt
              avt 30 October 2013 16: 01
              +1
              Quote: Nagan
              China will not fail to fill up, Europe and Japan will also collapse

              So this is only a plus to them.
              Quote: Nagan
              and pull America with them.

              Naturally, just like after both world wars, they will pull for recovery, and in the opinion of the Amers, they are again in chocolate with another plan of “Marshal” in the rank of “benefactors”.
            3. Botanologist
              Botanologist 30 October 2013 21: 25
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              Quote: Nagan
              Saudis will be democratized only if they really squeeze.


              The issue of oil prices is solved by lifting the embargo from Iran. Jumping, of course, but within reason.
              The point is different - why should America even democratize the Saudis? The embargo is lifted from Iran, oil prices are thereby reduced, and the reins are released to all neighbors who are not averse to pinching beards with the Saudi royal family. And very soon all these proud princes will realize that they need to answer for the bazaar.
              But here the question is - why mess with the Saudis? Surely after these demarches, the special envoys and the king personally, who successfully fell into a coma the day before yesterday, explained to the Americans in detail the charm of their new PR strategy and made a million oaths of loyalty and friendship to the grave. Along the way, and something serious as a gift. For to believe everything that they say - not to respect yourself.
              1. atalef
                atalef 30 October 2013 21: 39
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                Quote: Botanologist
                The issue of oil prices is solved by lifting the embargo from Iran. Jumping, of course, but within reason.
                Is jumping? Jumping up. falls down. Prices will fall and this is clear even to a student
                Reasonable for whom? For Iran, maybe for Russia, what are the consequences? What will Russia gain from this?

                Quote: Botanologist
                thereby lowering oil prices and releasing reins to all neighbors who are not averse to pinching beards with the Saudi royal family

                The Saudis have foreign exchange reserves. under a trillion, in my opinion, pensioners in Russia will begin to pinch beards - first of all

                Quote: Botanologist
                And very soon all these proud princes will realize that they need to answer for the bazaar.

                While the fat dries, the thin dies
                You have something further written there, sorry little.
                1. Botanologist
                  Botanologist 30 October 2013 23: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  For Iran, maybe for Russia, what are the consequences? What will Russia gain from this?


                  you somehow write notes by notes. I didn’t write that Russia is winning. I wrote about the scenario that America can implement. Do you further explain the logic or re-read the post?

                  Quote: atalef
                  The Saudis have foreign exchange reserves. under a trillion, in my opinion, pensioners in Russia will begin to pinch beards - first of all


                  again you are past the notes. We are looking at the US action scenario. What does the Saudi stock have to do with it? Or are you just a toad strangling?

                  Quote: atalef
                  You have something further written there,


                  Oh really?
          2. Onotollah
            Onotollah 30 October 2013 16: 18
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            Quote: avt
            regarding the main lender of China

            Chinese comrades seem to have solved the problems with oil supplies hi
            They bought a new toy for the iPhone and did what they wanted with him.
            Although time will tell who was right.
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 30 October 2013 11: 18
          +8
          Quote: Nagan
          The Saudis have not yet taken matters to the extreme, beyond which America can decide on democratization with the use of "axes" and other henchmen of "democratizers"

          They realized that while they were standing in line for democratization, they were scampering in advance. It is clear that Saudi Arabia, created by the British, who helped strengthen the current dynasty in power, as well as by the Americans, who for the last 70 years had huge oil, military and geopolitical interests there , just like that, overnight, will not go anywhere. a simple abandonment of the United States will lead to the collapse of the monarchy and the country. Do not forget about Iran, with whom the Saudis face one-on-one abandoning the United States. Here they will only have Israel in allies against Iran, which is ready to fight alone if its leadership is to be believed. But the course of blackmail is indicated - and this is already a serious blow to American interests in the region.
        3. hrych
          hrych 30 October 2013 13: 17
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          Saudi oil is completely blocked by Iranian oil, you just need to remove the fetters in the form of sanctions and Russia can freely increase production to support the European market, and the largest reserves of proven oil are certainly in Venezuela. Apparently the handsome prince got a little cut, hence the tantrum. It’s just that at one time America had a friend Saddam, then he was merged, the handsome prince thought that he and America are not like Saddam’s interests except sincere love, but the thousand-first night ends and the fairy tale comes to an end. The prince thought that he was the devil, like the United States, but turned out to be a minor trait, then Shiite-Kurdish revenge is brewing in the BV, they now have oil and they will be new friends of the Western world.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 30 October 2013 19: 07
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            Quote: hrych
            Saudi oil is completely blocked by Iranian oil, you just need to remove the fetters in the form of sanctions and Russia can freely increase production to support the European market, and the largest reserves of proven oil are certainly in Venezuela.

            First, there are purely technical reasons why your calculations don't work. Iranian oil is heavy, and Venezuelan oil is also high-sulfur. For their distillation, special distillation plants are needed, sharpened precisely for such oil. You can, of course, adjust the existing ones as a temporary measure, but the process will be more energy-intensive, and waste will rise sharply, which must still be disposed of or somehow neutralized. So Iranian oil will not replace light Saudi oil. The late Chavez also tried to reorient supplies from the United States to India and China, but they politely explained to him that his oil was "in the wrong system," so he had to grudgingly continue delivering to the imperialist gringo with tears in his eyes. Mozh from this chagrin, he threw back his hooves. : am:
            Secondly, I repeat: in order to make the price of oil prohibitive and bring down the world economy, it’s not even military operations in the SA that are enough, but just reliable-looking rumors about a possible beginning. Here's a change in the type of mode sewed on soap, i.e. to a more pro-American sheikh, it is possible.
            1. hrych
              hrych 30 October 2013 21: 27
              +3
              Cracking he and in africa cracking, by sulfur
              http://www.pronedra.ru/oil/2011/11/16/ochistka-nefteproduktov-ot-sery/
              in general: Many countries efficiently process oil and improve its quality, removing all impurities, including sulfur. The sulfur product business is highly profitable, as the experience of the United States and Qatar proves. High-quality petroleum products have such a high price that it largely covers the cost of processing. In addition, high-tech sulfur-containing products are in great demand, they are in demand and are well sold.
              In Arabia, an article from a reputable newspaper, translate yourself
              http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100019812/saudi-oil-
              well-dries-up /
              In general, by 2030, the Saudis themselves will buy oil, then ganache while there is money.
        4. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 30 October 2013 13: 58
          +2
          Quote: Nagan
          Does America need it?


          America needs every unwashed ass ... so yes, it’s necessary in CA!
        5. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 30 October 2013 14: 08
          +8
          Saudi Arabia is in first place for oil production and export. And therefore, the pendos began to push the dollar equivalent of the cost of oil there.
          In 1973, the United States, in order to support the global demand for its currency, actually created Petrodollars. A deal was concluded between the United States and Saudi Arabia, according to which each barrel of oil purchased from Saudi Arabia was denominated in US dollars. Moreover, under the new rules, any country that would like to purchase oil from Saudi Arabia must first exchange the national currency for American dollars.
          I am outraged by the fact that, having a practically complete monopoly on gas supplies to Europe, and being in second place after oil exports after the Saudis, our government does not attempt similar American ones. Those. creation of a rival based on the ruble of petrodollars. If it is possible to use SUCH tools, to continue investing in unsecured pieces of paper is at least criminal.
          1. atalef
            atalef 30 October 2013 14: 14
            +2
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Saudi Arabia is in first place for oil production and export. And therefore, the pendos began to push the dollar equivalent of the cost of oil there.
            In 1973, the United States, in order to support the global demand for its currency, actually created Petrodollars. A deal was concluded between the United States and Saudi Arabia, according to which each barrel of oil purchased from Saudi Arabia was denominated in US dollars. Moreover, under the new rules, any country that would like to purchase oil from Saudi Arabia must first exchange the national currency for American dollars.
            I am outraged by the fact that, having a practically complete monopoly on gas supplies to Europe, and being in second place after oil exports after the Saudis, our government does not attempt similar American ones. Those. creation of a rival based on the ruble of petrodollars. If it is possible to use SUCH tools, to continue investing in unsecured pieces of paper is at least criminal.

            So the Saudi real, the same as it does not rule the world, you read poorly, it is not the one who sells that rules, but the one who buys, Saudi Arabia - dollars (selling oil to America and the world) In Russia - the euro (selling more to Europe)
            Really do not understand the dependence?
            1. igor67
              igor67 30 October 2013 16: 47
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Saudi Arabia is in first place for oil production and export. And therefore, the pendos began to push the dollar equivalent of the cost of oil there.
              In 1973, the United States, in order to support the global demand for its currency, actually created Petrodollars. A deal was concluded between the United States and Saudi Arabia, according to which each barrel of oil purchased from Saudi Arabia was denominated in US dollars. Moreover, under the new rules, any country that would like to purchase oil from Saudi Arabia must first exchange the national currency for American dollars.
              I am outraged by the fact that, having a practically complete monopoly on gas supplies to Europe, and being in second place in oil exports after the Saudis, our government does not attempt similar laughing American. Those. the creation of a competitor based on the ruble of petrodollars. If it is possible to use SUCH tools, to continue investing in unsecured pieces of paper is at least criminal.

              So the Saudi real, the same as it does not rule the world, you read poorly, it is not the one who sells that rules, but the one who buys, Saudi Arabia - dollars (selling oil to America and the world) In Russia - the euro (selling more to Europe)
              Really do not understand the dependence?

              Yes, what is the addiction Sanya? Only science!
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 30 October 2013 23: 26
                0
                Quote: igor67
                Yes, what is the addiction Sanya? Only science!
                [picture: "American scientists are looking for oil"]

                So this is not news for a long time.
                American geologists made a discovery: an Arab state was discovered over American oil reserves. wassat
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 30 October 2013 19: 11
              +1
              Quote: atalef
              Euro in Russia (selling more to Europe)
              Really do not understand the dependence?

              Oil is sold not for the euro, but for the dollar.
              Quote: atalef
              , You read poorly, it’s not the one who sells that rules, but the one who buys,

              This is only if the seller is obviously weaker than the buyer. The pendos would not have the strength to deal with Russia as with Libya.
              1. atalef
                atalef 30 October 2013 21: 00
                +1
                [quote = Ingvar 72] Oil is sold not for the euro, but for the dollar. [/ quote]
                PRICES IN DOLLARS. A PAYMENT MAY BE EVEN IN TUGRIK, EUROPE PAYS EURO
                [quote = Ingvar 72] Quote: atalef
                , You read poorly, it’s not the one who sells that rules, but the one who buys,
                This is only if the seller is obviously weaker than the buyer. Pendos would not have the strength to deal with Russia as Libya. [/ Quote]
                [quote = Ingvar 72] This is only when the seller is obviously weaker than the buyer. The Pendos would not have had enough strength to deal with Russia as with Libya. [/ Quote]
                [/ Quote]
                Do you understand what this is about?
                If tomorrow they do not buy oil in Russia? Who will have less money? Or is it even simpler the question, tomorrow there will be a dumping outflow of oil, who will suffer more? Who is selling or buying? Toto and it
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 30 October 2013 21: 06
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  If tomorrow they do not buy oil in Russia?

                  Unreal. The world economy will not pull without our oil. And without gas even more so. In addition to oil, there are other resources without which a cozy western world will collapse. hi
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 30 October 2013 21: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Unreal. The world economy will not pull without our oil

                    Of course. but if you lift the sanctions from Iran and the market jumps out at least 3.5 million barrels of extra (and in real life much more. taking into account stocks made by Iran) How do you stumble who will suffer the most laughing
                2. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 30 October 2013 21: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  Or is it even simpler the question, tomorrow there will be a dumping oil spill, who will suffer the most?

                  Of course the buyer. Because they will restore production at his expense.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 30 October 2013 21: 30
                    0
                    Quote: Spade
                    Of course the buyer. Because they will restore production at his expense.

                    You may as an artilleryman understand here more than 90% of the site’s inhabitants, but familiarize yourself with the concept of dumping prices (in the case of lifting sanctions from Iran (as an example 0), what will flood the market and at what prices and what happens when the offer exceeds demand .
                    So the question is the same, who will suffer the most, the buyer or seller.
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 30 October 2013 21: 47
                      +1
                      Well, let's, oil from Iran poured into the market, the price fell. Oil producers close wells that do not pay for themselves. Oil supplies to the market are declining. Oil stabilizes in price and starts to rise in price. As the price rises, production resumes. But this is a laborious and expensive process, and the costs will be laid down in the price of oil.

                      So who will suffer as a result? That's right, the buyer, because having a "fat layer" the seller can wait for those times. when the buyer pays a hundredfold for his short "holiday of cheap oil".
                      1. atalef
                        atalef 30 October 2013 22: 01
                        +1
                        Quote: Spade
                        Well, let's, oil from Iran poured into the market, the price fell. Oil producers close wells that do not pay for themselves.

                        Siberia and the North of Russia --- as you understand first of all,

                        Quote: Spade
                        . Oil supplies to the market are declining

                        That's right, Russia suffers losses, leaves part of the market. Iran takes its place (it has something to build up with, reserves over the years of sanctions, and I really want money)

                        Quote: Spade
                        As the price rises, production resumes. But this is a laborious and expensive process, and the costs will be laid down in the price of oil.

                        Think fine. you don’t take into account other players in the market, your deposits (you will restore abandoned 0 yourself (while taking money from the budget --- it's all state corporations)

                        Quote: Spade
                        So who will suffer as a result?

                        Yes, it’s not worth reading further, answer for yourself. Check out the trend of oil production in Russia for the next 10 years and about new fields found in Iran

                        Quote: Spade
                        the seller can wait for those times. when the buyer pays a hundredfold for his short "holiday of cheap oil".

                        It was already that. just after the Doomsday War (Arab oil embargo) How did it end? And how long can Russia wait? A year or two? And who will support? Saudi or Venisuela (which without oil money and a week will not live 0
                        Therefore, really look. lifting sanctions from Iran --- losing money for Russia, ending the war in Syria - Iranian gas pipeline to Europe (all papers were signed long ago), Assad failure - Qatari gas in Europe.
                        So consider who is most interested in both the sanctions on Iran and the war in Syria.
                        By the way, this is probably why Russia supports sanctions.
                        Do you disagree?
                      2. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 30 October 2013 22: 18
                        +1
                        Have you forgotten that Russia has already faced a fall in oil prices, which, according to so many experts, should have led to a collapse? So what? Never mind. Some had to temporarily abandon yachts the size of an aircraft carrier.

                        Quote: atalef
                        Therefore, really look. lifting sanctions from Iran ...

                        --- Temporary inconveniences for Russia, which will lead to an increase in the share of oil refining --- the price will stabilize --- a steady increase in demand from China and India makes prices rise --- Russia is "beating off" all its losses a hundredfold

                        Quote: atalef
                        the end of the war in Syria - the Iranian gas pipeline to Europe (all papers were signed long ago), the Assad failure - Qatari gas in Europe.

                        --- Thanks to the services of European "greens", Europe will finally abandon nuclear energy --- Russia will not even be affected

                        If you follow your logic, Europe should be in the forefront of the lifting of sanctions: a sharp decline in energy prices will help get out of the crisis. However, they take a much tougher stance than us. Are they stupid?
                      3. atalef
                        atalef 30 October 2013 22: 33
                        +2
                        Quote: Spade
                        Have you forgotten that Russia has already faced a fall in oil prices, which, according to so many experts, should have led to a collapse? So what? Never mind. Some had to temporarily abandon yachts the size of an aircraft carrier.

                        And no one speaks. that Russia will fall apart. the question is different. Do you agree because of Iran to survive the crisis of 2008 again? that most likely it will affect neither the whole world (and especially not the States) but only oil exporters


                        Quote: Spade
                        - Temporary inconvenience for Russia, which will lead to an increase in the share of oil refining -

                        Apparently it’s better to shoot from cannons. Where will you push the refined oil (as I understand it in the form of gasoline) (in the West there is your own refining, they need oil - moreover, it will be enough thanks to Iran)? And where do you get the power from? Build on a pike command?


                        Quote: Spade
                        a steady increase in demand from China and India is forcing prices to rise --- Russia "beats off" all its losses a hundredfold

                        Funny you

                        Quote: Spade
                        If you follow your logic, Europe should be in the forefront of the lifting of sanctions: a sharp decline in energy prices will help get out of the crisis

                        Yes, in general, the way it is, they would have been canceled a long time ago, but the States will stick to it (along with the Saudis) and Russia, too, is somehow not for the fact

                        Quote: Spade
                        However, they take a much tougher stance than us. Are they stupid?

                        You are simply blind, Russia only rhetoric (to the public - For) and as soon as the conversation began on the lifting of sanctions and negotiations
                        Lavrov (in Indonesia) immediately said
                        we should not forget about the possible military component of Iran’s nuclear program.

                        Then Skiff called you to learn materiel for a long time. I do not agree with him, in artillery you are definitely special, but in economics - well, somehow it is not very yours (at the moment) with respect. hi
                      4. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 31 October 2013 07: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: atalef
                        And no one speaks. that Russia will fall apart. the question is different. Do you agree because of Iran to survive the crisis of 2008 again?

                        Have you ever thought about the alliance between Russia and Iran?
                      5. mirag2
                        mirag2 31 October 2013 07: 33
                        +1
                        Good morning!
                        Well, let’s put the oil not only on gasoline, but it is also used in chemical synthesis.
                        And this is a production that requires costs, and the final product is in any way more expensive than crude ...
                        Is not it?
  • Onotollah
    Onotollah 30 October 2013 16: 14
    +3
    Quote: Nagan
    the price of oil will soar above the roof, and accordingly the economies of almost the whole world will be flushed to the toilet.

    I am wildly sorry, but in my opinion this is a very bold assumption.
    In the world there are enough states with oil reserves. The same OPEC is not composed of Saudi Arabia. There are 11 more members (well, or goals, whatever), and 2 of them are directly occupied by the United States (Iraq and Libya). Yes, and get rid of the competitor in the oil business is a very necessary and charitable business.
    The prince directly begs for democratization without the use of lubricants, only Russia is unlikely to help to utilize the Saudi chemical weapons, and if we recall the hints of problems with the Olympics in case of intransigence on the Syrian issue (as they say in a whisper on the sidelines), then in Saudi Arabia really big problems with human rights.
    And again, if it’s not chemical weapons, then Al Qaeda’s militants must be disposed of somewhere. After all, they should not be exported to Europe. The United States has some, and there are vassals.
    So small but profitable equitable war the act of forcing the SA to anal-liberal values ​​seems very likely. At least it suits many.
  • bif
    bif 31 October 2013 00: 37
    0
    Quote: Nagan
    The Saudis have not yet brought the matter to the extreme beyond which America can decide to democratize

    Saudis seem closer than you think.
    “As a result, Saudi Arabia blamed Russia in June, China two weeks ago, and now the United States. The kingdom says it will withdraw its investments from America and may turn to Turkey and France, although no experts see how this There can be two explanations for this move: either El Riyadh is pretending to be angry in order to induce Washington to continue the war in Syria without taking responsibility, or the Saudi clan is committing political suicide ... Having embarked on the path of disobedience, the Saudi clan did not leaves the United States no choice. It is unlikely that Washington will agree to act under the dictation of a few wealthy Bedouins. Most likely, it will calm them. In 1975 they did not hesitate to do away with King Faisal. It is possible that this time they will be even more ferocious ... Hence the return to the Pentagon of the old plan of the neoconservatives: "Expel the Saudis from Arabia" according to the title of the report presented in July 2002 to the political council. va Defense. This plan provides for the division of the country into five separate zones, three of which should form independent states from each other, and the other two should be subordinate to the United States. "Http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/analysis/view/84930/
  • avt
    avt 30 October 2013 09: 47
    +4
    Quote: INTER
    What, the next challenger of the Arab spring ???

    request Well, for a long time already published maps of the division of states and the creation of new ones, it is not a secret and, as a rule, this is a guide to Naglo-Saxon action. “Speaking with the diplomat, Prince bin Sultan, according to Reuters, said that his state would very soon“ significantly change its foreign policy ”and revise relations with the United States. The prince's message was that from now on Riyadh does not want to spin like a weather vane under the American wind. " and their Wahhabi religion.
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 30 October 2013 10: 45
    +6
    Quote of the article: "And suddenly - the initiative of the Kremlin, the UN, the OPCW, chemical disarmament, the OPCW give the Nobel Peace Prize, Qatar signs up for a queue with the diplomatic reception in Damascus ... A terrible geopolitical miracle, as a result of which the Saudis are extreme."
    This is the first deafening victory of Russia (Putin and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs) since the times of the USSR! The world turned out to be SO ready for that. Departing from the knockout, some Arab countries lost their orientation. The battle is not over yet. It will be more interesting further.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 30 October 2013 18: 48
      +2
      [quote = GSH-18] Moving away from the knockout, some Arab countries lost their bearings. [/ quote "]
      What do you mean "lost"? They were already 3.14dores in life. Moreover, they have fun with camels, sheep, and donkeys - this is a well-known fact. laughing
  • Apollo
    Apollo 30 October 2013 09: 03
    14
    The actions of Saudi Arabia in relation to the United States are pure blackmail and not otherwise. The main guardian and guarantor of the kingdom is the United States, if the regime in the CA remains without US support, it will immediately fall. I do not believe the Saudis, because of the play.
    1. ben gun
      ben gun 30 October 2013 09: 11
      +3
      The Saudis have an even more interesting internal problem. The applicants for the role of the next king are over, and in my opinion for the current 90 years. Now and previously, the throne was inherited exclusively by the brothers of the first king of Saud, but almost all of them ended and are under the age of 90 years.
      In addition to the Saudi spring, one can expect upheavals in the succession throne in KSA.
      Prince Bandar bin Sultan is said to be one of the potential candidates for the throne in KSA.
      1. alone
        alone 30 October 2013 21: 51
        0
        Quote: ben gun
        Prince Bandar bin Sultan is said to be one of the potential candidates for the throne in KSA.


        with such statements, he is more likely to become a corpse.)) a contender for the next world
    2. svp67
      svp67 30 October 2013 09: 14
      +1
      Quote: Apollon
      if the regime in the CA remains without US support, it will immediately fall

      It's not that simple anymore. The regime in the SA has passed the stage of "formation" and "maturation" under the "wing and tutelage" of the United States. Now it is "pumped up" with "petrodollars" "but I can’t ...", and oil itself is a powerful resource ... So it’s not all that simple.
      The Saudis are eager for the role of "superpower" and "ideological leader", while at the level of the Middle East ... but then what?
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 30 October 2013 09: 31
        +8
        Quote: svp67
        It's not that simple anymore. The regime in the SA has passed the stage of "formation" and "maturation" under the "wing and tutelage" of the United States.



        Saudi Arabia is afraid of fire like Iran. If the SA remains without US support, Iran will simply roll the Saudis into the asphalt.
        1. svp67
          svp67 30 October 2013 10: 13
          +3
          Quote: Apollon
          Saudi Arabia is afraid of fire like Iran

          yes, it is "afraid", but not so much of its military power as of the fact that Iran is still a "spiritual leader" and if a conflict occurs, Iran is able to raise many of its supporters in other countries, in its defense ... The first task to "destroy" Iran - moving, or rather "returning" the "spiritual center" from Tehran to Mecca or Medina ...
        2. atalef
          atalef 30 October 2013 14: 17
          +4
          Quote: Apollon
          Quote: svp67
          It's not that simple anymore. The regime in the SA has passed the stage of "formation" and "maturation" under the "wing and tutelage" of the United States.



          Saudi Arabia is afraid of fire like Iran. If the SA remains without US support, Iran will simply roll the Saudis into the asphalt.

          Apollo, absolutely right, only you did not take into account a trillion Saudi bucks in the States, so they both love with interest, believe me, Obama's brains will be corrected within a month or two (if this is not a delicate game). Article by nothing, the author’s short-term dreams, it’s a pity to spend time reading.
      2. duke
        duke 30 October 2013 09: 59
        +4
        What will happen next ... however, the caliphate is being built, which is even shouted at at the market in Otradnoy ... Because Babama flirted with Iran, and therefore the Turks are building Osmaniyah-2, because counterbalances to money-sworn sauds are created in advance. And the Arab spring is not so difficult to do there, it is also full of migrants, although the situation is not as tragic as ours, if there are those who are unhappy with planes, let’s say goodbye. But Yemeni, Shiite, and semi-poor tribes drive the Saudi army, armed to the teeth, in the sand, for a sweet soul, and no Apaches and Abrams help. But I suppose the change of impudent regime, encroaching on the owner, will be done without much noise and dust, something like a palace coup, so as not to cause unnecessary shocks. If the Americans do not do this, then they will really lose their strength and scent.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 October 2013 14: 14
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Now it is "pumped up" with "petrodollars" "but I can't ...", and oil itself is a powerful resource ...

        Oil dollars is a US product, and the main consumer is also the United States. It will be cheaper for them to make the enemy from the CA and send aircraft carriers. And the Saudis cannot not know this. Here I agree with Apollo, this farce is nothing more than a cheap performance.
      4. Botanologist
        Botanologist 30 October 2013 21: 33
        0
        Quote: svp67
        The regime in the SA has passed the stage of "formation" and "maturation" under the "wing and tutelage" of the United States. Now it is "pumped up" with "petrodollars" "but I can't ...", and oil itself is a powerful resource ...


        And what can the banks pumped with petrodollars do against a salvo of axes?
    3. atalef
      atalef 30 October 2013 21: 04
      0
      Quote: Apollon
      The actions of Saudi Arabia in relation to the USA are pure blackmail and not otherwise.

      Of course. Apollo and I even know who will break whom,

      Quote: Apollon
      . The main guardian and guarantor of the kingdom is the United States, if the regime in the CA remains without US support, it will immediately fall. I do not believe the Saudis, because of the play.

      Apollo, they both play it. there are enough smart people in the United States to understand who and how on BV and Obama will not only not be allowed to change this, but he will not.
      The performance is like in a family. break before each other.
  • Skiff
    Skiff 30 October 2013 09: 54
    +2
    Naive Saudis, their sovereignty is decided in the bowels of the White House, if necessary they will quickly find a reason for democratization.
  • duke
    duke 30 October 2013 10: 22
    +2
    With Syria, fortunately, everything turned out not so simple. The fact is that the Americans found out that their s..dnitsa, in Syria, are trying to crush the hedgehogs and the Saudis and Turks, and in their selfish, not American interests. The Turks would be silent, supposedly to help the United States (as a NATO partner), they would send troops and occupy (and forever) the north of the country, and the Saudis would naturally put their thugs in power in Damascus, the arrival of the Turks would cause the separation of the Kurds and a new surge of Kurdish independence movements also belonged to the neighbors of Syria (Iraq, Turkey, Iran), which would lead to a redistribution of the map of the Middle East, which would be done in due time (Kurds are a trump card), but so far the Americans were not ready for this, because . such a redistribution should occur under their leadership and the consequences should be calculated. But the main thing is that Israel would have new, not quite adequate neighbors, with whom it would be impossible to negotiate, as with darling Assad, so Israel would also have to expand its borders at the expense of Syria, and maybe Lebanon, and maybe Egypt. It was not for nothing that the Americans also played back in Egypt, at the same time they clicked on the nose of the Saudis and the local military junta overthrew the pro-Saudi Mursenok. Otherwise, all this would have caused yet another unpredictable event in an unstable region ... therefore, by the way, Putin’s proposal on Syria came in handy, perhaps it was even made by agreement with the amers. Geopolitics however.
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 30 October 2013 13: 57
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    And if so *, then I don’t want to be a predictor, but to be a war ...


    It remains only to determine the war of anyone with whom. If the bandar continues to behave like a swine, American human rights activists will definitely find a violation of the rights of the Sodomites in the SA and send a couple of Tomahawks there ....
    1. vadson
      vadson 30 October 2013 16: 22
      +1
      I would like our strategists to democratize the Saudis, so purely from the air. yeah, they ask
      1. duke
        duke 30 October 2013 19: 05
        0
        Wadson, how many Sherlock didn't drag you hi well, you don’t want to think, why should we wave and get dirty with a saber ourselves, we must take an example from wise "comrades", there are other options, next to a beggar Yemen, for example, that they really did not manage to use it under the USSR, Saudis, the creation of "hotbeds" around the perimeter, the competent use of Iran, and this is only on the surface ... and aerobatics would be to create conditions for the Americans themselves to do this ... but we do not want to use the services of their own, albeit dilapidated think tanks ...
  • Onotollah
    Onotollah 30 October 2013 16: 23
    0
    Quote: svp67
    want to go to the "first"

    For this pipiska CA army should be, if not more, then at least more efficient than the US Army.
    Although maybe the Saudis are hoping for a terrorist international?
  • don.kryyuger
    don.kryyuger 30 October 2013 19: 40
    0
    They just want to rake the heat with the wrong hands, and they are willing to pay for it.
  • tomket
    tomket 30 October 2013 20: 52
    0
    the sheikhs, unlike our government, understand that in two years America will not need their oil for nothing, because they will switch to self-sufficiency, and then actually their reaction to the future life begins to starve, do not want to starve, and are angry with their masters.
  • alone
    alone 30 October 2013 21: 50
    0
    all this is chattering. The SA is starting a new political game. They will not leave the United States. It’s not profitable for yourself. Do not believe this Bandar.
  • Bagatur
    Bagatur 30 October 2013 22: 14
    +1
    We all remember when Saddam was hanged, most importantly, when and why was he hanged? That time when Saddam Hussein had a brilliant idea in essence - they would sell oil to Iraqi for anything but US dollar chips !!! Such arbitrariness was not forgiven and ... send Bush, his vassal dog Tony Blairr, looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. It is all known that such was not found, but does anyone remember? The main thing is to do a show in any case, warn what happens to those who come in their head, they will step on the entire American splendid system-life and be content on the back of the whole world! How can you go on like this forever? 17 trillion in debt + 700 billion in the military budget per year, this is how it works for you. The Yankees need to think about what will happen after the collapse of the Saudis, they could have come up with it, but ... it's not yet time for this. Now only reconnaissance with battle. Here, it is possible with Iran to agree ... then you can start dismantling the Wahhabite kingdom. The Moor did his job, the Moor may be killed! And then what about Israel? And if Russia, China and other states stop buying up US national debts ... then it will become very interesting !!!
  • Siberian German
    Siberian German 31 October 2013 03: 24
    0
    but I want to say - I don’t believe not convincingly, but the sheikhs themselves are not fools, they have Amerov’s grandmothers and they perfectly understand what can happen if that money
  • mirag2
    mirag2 31 October 2013 07: 44
    0
    No, that you are not aiming for any "first roles", they are just allies with the United States for many years, and suddenly this. Do not help them, as they have helped the states both politically and economically.
    And the states, it seems, really really suddenly realized what their economic policy was leading to, and they were returning production to the country, and now they are finally thinking About Me, and not about how to save Israel (by clearing the world from those whom it does not like something), or indulge in a clearly radical Wahhabi SA.
  • makarov
    makarov 30 October 2013 09: 02
    17
    All material can be stated more concisely.
    The Saudis suggested to Obama, you say they are bombing Syria, and we will pay you more than anything. If they had said this quietly, then perhaps it would have remained t.s. behind the scenes. But they yelled almost to the whole world.
    Here the Americans are offended, and who will like it when the tail twists the dog.
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 30 October 2013 09: 18
      +1
      And so it was. Not in the eyebrow but in the eye, as they say. hi
  • Igor39
    Igor39 30 October 2013 09: 03
    +4
    I think that it is necessary to change the regime in the CA to a democratic one, with homosexuals and parades.
    1. duke
      duke 30 October 2013 12: 32
      +2
      with homosexuals and parades, you’re wise ... and it’s too painful their growth is big drinks
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 30 October 2013 23: 42
      0
      Quote: Igor39
      I think that it is necessary to change the regime in the CA to a democratic one, with homosexuals and parades.

      Yes, at least for frankly therapeutic. I am personally gay in lipstick and what other gay tricks they have are much prettier as a companion on the bus than a bearded martyr in the suicide belt. And our ball the farther the less it seems, it will soon become clear that it is not much larger than a bus.
  • Canep
    Canep 30 October 2013 09: 05
    +5
    Wait a minute, the State Department will order some more “investigation” from the “experts”, and it turns out that Saudi Arabia is the number one enemy for the United States. Suddenly, Washington will recognize that the Saudis do not have democracy and that LGBT rights are systematically violated, right from the separation of the head of a caught gay from his own body. And there, and not far from democratization. Privatizing Saudi oil is the dream of every decent industrialist,

    It would be nice, especially since you don’t have to dig anything special, most of the September 11 terrorists from Saudi Arabia haven’t heard anything about human rights at all. There are really no LGBT rights issues there, just as there are no LGBT people themselves. They are simply executed there.
    1. a52333
      a52333 30 October 2013 09: 19
      +1
      According to weather forecasts, an Arab spring is expected in Riyadh ...
      Yes, it would be good. We got these "preferables for the whole head." And there's nothing to point a finger at Washington, like we don't know anything. BOTH GOOD. angry. And then there are oil contracts for China, by the way, it’s not in the spring, but in the summer it smells.
  • Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 30 October 2013 09: 22
    12
    If the United States seriously swings at Saudi Arabia, then no one will mind and no one will intercede for Arabia. She got ALL.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 30 October 2013 09: 23
    +2
    Al Saud became nervous. Assad, if he doesn’t interfere, but is better to help a little, he will squeeze his opponents. And he will make a complaint in the arms with Iran.
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 30 October 2013 09: 31
    +1
    This prince reminds Zhirinovsky. Bearing whatever they hit, their king is interesting in the course of all this mess.
  • Hort
    Hort 30 October 2013 09: 35
    +3
    there is an interesting book "Confessions of an Economic Murderer", the author is an American who participated in the organization of economic dependence on the United States of several countries in South America, Indonesia and Saudi Arabia. So there it is described in detail how the Saudis were "screwed up". And they will not go anywhere from the USA, tk. almost 100% depend on them. Unless they have a revolution
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 30 October 2013 09: 36
    +2
    Washington is not that state .... smiled!
  • LSV
    LSV 30 October 2013 09: 39
    +6
    Sheikhs have always not been particularly distinguished by their mental abilities)). The Americans got a black mark over there. They seriously think that they will be able to dictate their terms to the USA?)). Clowns. If necessary, they will be rolled out and democratized in 2-3 days, or they will arrange a palace coup and be seated on the throne of a loyal leader, since there are enough contradictions between family members.
    1. LSV
      LSV 30 October 2013 09: 49
      +3
      Although it would be faster. These s.ki should someday be responsible for financing the militants in the North Caucasus.
    2. Walker1975
      Walker1975 30 October 2013 14: 40
      +1
      Or they will announce that they no longer support the SA, they say who claims - present, we will not object
    3. atalef
      atalef 30 October 2013 21: 05
      0
      Quote: LSV
      Sheikhs have always not been particularly distinguished by their mental abilities)). The Americans got a black mark over there. Do they seriously think they can dictate their terms to the United States?

      they can, you can have no doubt
  • DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 30 October 2013 09: 43
    +3
    The Americans can put the Saudis in their place, and they will, because they have already begun to raise their heads and forgot that they are only henchmen who give what they need (oil, money) when they order, and say what they need when they order.
    1. Deniska
      Deniska 30 October 2013 10: 47
      0
      Not a fact ... America without their oil will hang very much, and I think they will have little money for the operation.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 30 October 2013 14: 22
        +1
        Quote: Deniska
        Not a fact ... America without their oil will hang very much

        Fact. Carriers have almost everything with nuclear power plants. And war pendos only on hand. And to make an enemy from the Saudis, like two fingers on asphalt.
        1. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 30 October 2013 20: 46
          0
          Presumably, aircraft from aircraft carriers also fly on uranium.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 30 October 2013 21: 11
            0
            Quote: chunga-changa
            Presumably, aircraft from aircraft carriers also fly on uranium.

            On Iraqi kerosene.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 October 2013 09: 51
    +4
    We are waiting for the speedy "democratization of the Saudis" according to the Libyan scenario .. I would be only glad! As they say for what they fought for and ran into.
    1. vadson
      vadson 30 October 2013 16: 28
      0
      I would have neighing with all my heart if the Yankees, who themselves do not want to fight, were ordered to fight the Baltic States with the Saudis in Georgia alone wassat You would have got a game of giveaways ...
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 30 October 2013 09: 54
    0
    Quote: makarov
    All material can be stated more concisely.
    The Saudis suggested to Obama, you say they are bombing Syria, and we will pay you more than anything. If they had said this quietly, then perhaps it would have remained t.s. behind the scenes. But they yelled almost to the whole world.
    Here the Americans are offended, and who will like it when the tail twists the dog.

    Only in 1 case: the tail of the knot twists the male)
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 30 October 2013 09: 58
    +2
    I wonder if the Saudis are not afraid to wake up one day, turn on the TV and be surprised to find out that they are “undemocratic”? What should the Americans change from one ruling CA family to another, more compliant? ExxonMobil and Chevron stand by their side and beat their hoofs, so whoever, and they will be glad to grasp the "body" of the CA even more tightly.
  • ZU-23
    ZU-23 30 October 2013 10: 00
    +1
    Well, the Cathars, they began to think with whom they contacted, your gold and bucks have long been consumed by the brain.
  • morpogr
    morpogr 30 October 2013 10: 18
    +5
    Democracy in Arabic devours its parents. If you are not building democracy, we will fly to you.
    1. duke
      duke 30 October 2013 12: 34
      0
      you mean caliphate. in this case ... hehe
  • Migari
    Migari 30 October 2013 10: 32
    +3
    Well, very good news, here they are, the results of the correct actions of our leadership and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, as they said in Soviet times, "Approve"
  • Migari
    Migari 30 October 2013 10: 33
    0
    Well, very good news, here they are, the results of the correct actions of our leadership and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, as they said in Soviet times, "Approve"
  • Adel
    Adel 30 October 2013 10: 37
    +2
    sadists have always been the king’s dogs and that they say that they disagree with America is nonsense ... the Americans didn’t when they stopped supporting their alkaida and alnusra and other rubbish that are Saudi money and continue to fight in Syria
    Americans at any time can change the faces of the ruler in Saudi Arabia
    Saudi Arabia has always been an open wallet for the states and funded all the dirty state operations from Afghanistan ..... to Syria
  • Deniska
    Deniska 30 October 2013 10: 45
    +2
    According to weather forecasts, an Arab spring is expected in Riyadh ...


    This is only a plus for us:
    1. Oil prices will rise.
    2. The Middle East will heal more freely, realizing that America no longer controls its satellites.
  • Katsin1
    Katsin1 30 October 2013 10: 45
    -5
    All this is temporary. Do not forget that a professionally unfit president is now in power in America. When his cadence ends, America will become America again. Remember how America weakened during the "Peanut Jimmy" (Jimmy Carter, if anyone did not understand). Then Reagan came and America became America again. this is too strong a country, and a mediocre president cannot destroy it even in 2 cadences. So we'll wait for the Republican president)))
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 30 October 2013 11: 14
      +5
      Quote: Katsin1
      All this is temporary. Do not forget that the professionally unsuitable president is now in power in America.

      Temporary American phenomena are a thing of the past, get used to it. Obama is a normal adequate president (better than Bush). He has to rake those mountains of problems that he inherited from the "professional" Republican presidents, coupled with the economic crisis and the huge public debt. Replacing the sewing machine with soap does not bode well for the states. But Israelites can continue to hope and believe. Your golden age is over hi
      1. Katsin1
        Katsin1 30 October 2013 11: 51
        -9
        Quote: GSH-18
        Quote: Katsin1
        All this is temporary. Do not forget that the professionally unsuitable president is now in power in America.

        Temporary American phenomena are a thing of the past, get used to it. Obama is a normal adequate president (better than Bush). He has to rake those mountains of problems that he inherited from the "professional" Republican presidents, coupled with the economic crisis and the huge public debt. Replacing the sewing machine with soap does not bode well for the states. But Israelites can continue to hope and believe. Your golden age is over hi



        Well, we have already heard this for 65 years, that we are about to get a kapets ... We will continue to listen ...
        I don’t know how old you are, but in the same way America was buried during the time of the clown-Carter .. Then Reagan came, and America flourished more than ever. So it will be with Obama. A normal president will come, and everything will be different with America, and her allies will again feel that there is only one superpower named America. GDP is now just being great amid impotent wimp Obama. But a normal president will come, everything will immediately become different, do not even hesitate ...
        1. Starfish
          Starfish 30 October 2013 12: 27
          +3
          "But the Israelites can continue to hope and believe. Your golden age is over."

          it has not yet begun with them. and if it does, then not for long.
          because Egypt and Syria have not collapsed yet, and they are the ever-looming threat over Israel. And then there are Turkey and Iran. and while they are intact, Israel will not see a "golden age". although they go to nim systematically. all more or less significant players in the region are crumbling under different pretexts and in different ways - and the beneficiary in all cases is the same.
          with Libya, Iraq, Sudan (separated South Sudan), Somalia, Ethiopia (Eritrea with access to the Red Sea separated) is over. Egypt is shaky, digging under Iran, Saudi and Turkey have already taken aim, now it is clearly visible.
          watch carefully for the remaining 4 countries - in the next 10 years it will be hot here.
          and it’s already hot in Syria.
    2. Walker1975
      Walker1975 30 October 2013 14: 43
      +1
      And this is their plus - the possibility of changing the President, if he does not manage so ... and then try to take the steering wheel - they have stolen so much that they understand - give up power - they will at least put
  • Bober
    Bober 30 October 2013 10: 46
    +3
    Damn, why are they so slouching in the picture. I then told them that there would be osteochondrosis. I will not forget. On one of the visits to the SA, I stand on the shore and watch the local sailors stretch at the building. The shape of the parade is white. Through the white light trousers of one, family multi-colored shorts appear. I watched him for a long time thinking, how would our senior elder react to such garbage. I’m even afraid to think about how the midshipman would genuinely kill him if he caught his eye.

    And according to the article. The Moor has done his job; the Moor may leave. All the same, as I see it, they did not read Schiller. But in vain.
  • Bezarius
    Bezarius 30 October 2013 11: 02
    +1
    No wonder, the United States has always been a colossus with feet of clay, for its policy was based on coercion. Therefore, it is quite obvious that when the US finally loses its levers of pressure, all "allies" will abandon them.
  • amp
    amp 30 October 2013 11: 19
    0
    It's time to democratize the SA.
  • Rinat 1
    Rinat 1 30 October 2013 12: 23
    0
    Yes, Assad was lucky that Russia stood up for him.
  • Jogan-xnumx
    Jogan-xnumx 30 October 2013 13: 17
    +1
    Akela missed. Jackals of all stripes were greeted by a greyhound ... laughing
  • individual
    individual 30 October 2013 13: 38
    +2
    The Arab world will not rest until the skating rink of the "Arab Spring" passes through it.
    In the Middle East, everything is so interconnected that if somewhere in the region, something tears or is tied in a knot, the whole tangle of their world order is confused.
    Remember the introduction of the Israeli state into their world in 1948. This upset the balance of forces and their tangle is still torn and tied into a new and new knot from a confusion of contradictions.
    To create PEACE in the region, it is necessary to find the beginning and end of the historical thread and begin the countdown of new rounds of the statehood structure.
  • Analyst
    Analyst 30 October 2013 13: 46
    +1
    In short, these are the tricks of Israel against the amers for Syria.
  • Belogor
    Belogor 30 October 2013 14: 32
    +1
    Another project of the United States, now they are playing a quarrel. Just what a smart politician will buy it.
  • 3935333
    3935333 30 October 2013 15: 49
    0
    another DESA. Wallet (CA, Qatar) Anglo-Saxons just like that will not be left unattended and will never be given without blood. Bandar ala Saud just started a game (I feel something he put on the shoulders of GDP at the last meeting) in which he is just a Wahhabi carcass (although judging by his track record and career, maybe this is his CHANCE) ... damn you need to be a chess player from God, to understand what will happen tomorrow! But the fact that the Middle East has been divided into two parts is a fact! And America (USA) wants to shove wallet No. 2 (IRI) with small-shavens, but China and the Russian Federation don’t give it without blood (Syria)!
  • chief.matros
    chief.matros 30 October 2013 16: 58
    0
    Quote: svp67
    Now he is "pumped up" with "petrodollars" "but I can't ..."


    This is how the Americans want to devalue $ to get rid of debt obligations to the whole world, analysts promise a collapse of $ by 2015, so their "pumping" will go to light a fire in a yurt (or whatever they call Bedouin tents).
  • Katsin1
    Katsin1 30 October 2013 19: 01
    0
    Quote: olviko
    "Nothing will help the Saud, their song is over."

    Well why, there is always a way out. For the Saudis, as well as for Israel, there is only one way out - to remove Obama physically. That, in general, is not so unrealistic, given the financial capabilities of the first and the powerful lobby of both in the United States, as well as the "democratic" tradition in this country of shooting unliked presidents. There would be a desire, but for the next Oswald the matter will not arise.



    what a dreamer you are however ....
    no one needs to be cleaned. Obama is a temporary misunderstanding, this is not Luke and not GDP, 3 years is a nonsense term, they will fly by quickly. Moreover, Obama is too weak and helpless to seriously harm anyone. And do not forget that the majority of the congresses are Republicans, which further limits the freedom of action of Cheburashka Obama.
    1. olviko
      olviko 30 October 2013 19: 20
      0
      "3 years is a nonsense time, will fly by quickly"

      Well, don’t tell, Obama for 3 months, counting since August 2013, has been picking so much that Saudi Arabia is standing on a pair with Israel on its ears. Thawing relations with Iran alone is worth it! And then there's 3 YEARs ahead.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 30 October 2013 20: 26
    0
    The Saudi demarche at the UN has been carried out in order to diminish the authority of this international arbiter, and this is beneficial for both princes and the United States to exercise its hegemony.
    Speaking with the diplomat, Prince bin Sultan, according to Reuters, said that his state would very soon “substantially change its foreign policy course” and revise relations with the United States.
    Bin Sultan expressed himself very frankly, but the fact that these words became the property of Reuters (and therefore the whole world) is already incredible. Saudi Arabia recently placed another weapons order for almost $ 7 billion (650 AGM-84H SLAM-ER cruise missiles " air-to-surface ”, 973 AGM-154C JSOW glide bombs, 400 AGM-84L Harpoon Block II anti-ship cruise missiles, one thousand GBU-39 / B SDB bombs, 40 CATM-84H training missiles and 20 ATM-84H training missiles with telemetry equipment .) And McCain’s opinion:
    "According to the latest reports, Israel and our partners in the Gulf countries no longer believe in the competence, potential and wisdom of the administration’s diplomacy in this region."
    Another trip to Obama. Yes, and Israel, why should be sad.? There is a consistent chemical disarmament of Syria. What more could they want? I think that this report has one of its goals to show Iran what US foreign policy, for a number of reasons, can do in BV A sharp turn. The invitation of Iran to the West (l)) om to the diaologist makes the rest of the players of the BV-th game tense up, make forced counter moves, and finally be accommodating on a number of issues. These diplomats are always "muddying".
  • Mooh
    Mooh 31 October 2013 03: 45
    0
    I read to the phrase about DENOMINATED in bonds assets and threw it. Author, learn the materiel.