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Shoigu heard advice

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Sergei Shoigu confirmed the reputation of a person who listens to practical advice and solves issues without posting them indefinitely. It happened at a meeting of the Public Council at the Ministry of Defense.


Its chairman, Pavel Gusev, proposed establishing an annual award of the head of the military department for the best works of art about the army. According to the chief editor of "MK", ​​they should create talented writers, playwrights, scriptwriters and filmmakers. And the new award will only spur creative searches. Shoigu supported the idea, but made a reservation: it should be a prize not for the minister, but for the Ministry of Defense. The military will prepare the corresponding Regulations together with public figures, and its final version will be posted on the agency’s website.

For everything that concerns the formation of a positive army image in society, Shoigu takes it extremely seriously. From here - initiatives that are already being implemented, or are in the development stage. The minister, in particular, recalled the decision to create a military studio by the end of the year, perhaps even an entire film company, where they would shoot documentaries, feature films and animated films. They must revive people's interest in the national stories and promote the patriotic education of youth.

Another innovation of the Ministry of Defense is devoted to the same goal - the creation of a short course on our military history specifically addressed to soldiers. Such a textbook is planned to be released in November. Shoigu said that recruits will not only study him, but also take tests on him. As the minister put it, so that the guys know at least "basic things about the history of the Russian army." But cadets of military universities, it seems, will soon have to study the full course of the history of the Armed Forces. The need to introduce such a discipline in higher education institutions of the Ministry of Defense generals are going to discuss at one of the boards of the military department.

At a meeting of the Public Council, Shoigu showed sketches of monuments that want to be installed on the Frunze Embankment in Moscow. Apparently, they will take their place next to the Main Command of the Ground Forces. This is a bronze sculptural compositions dedicated to the heroes of the First and Second World Wars. And also - to the characters of the feature film "Officers", long-beloved by the people. Shoigu asked the members of the Public Council to evaluate the sketches and express their opinion when it comes to their approval.

And another one news from the head of the military department - by the end of this year, in all military units, buffets and showers will be organized. “We are going further along the path of humanization of military service,” Shoigu said. “We have conscripts have two days off, use the opportunity to go on layoffs in civilian clothes, make mobile phone calls, and use e-mail and communicate via Skype.” The minister also said that a bill was sent for consideration, according to which contract soldiers would be entitled to parental leave.
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  1. Metlik
    Metlik 29 October 2013 11: 59 New
    +5
    conscripts will not only study it, but also take tests on it.
    Offsets will not help if the book is not of interest.
    1. Slevinst
      Slevinst 29 October 2013 12: 10 New
      51
      will help. not everyone is interested in history but everyone should know it
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 29 October 2013 12: 22 New
        36
        Quote: Slevinst
        not everyone is interested in history but everyone should know it


        The main thing is to make sure that the story is not written by Mikhalkov and his accomplices, but by someone more professionally.
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER 29 October 2013 17: 09 New
          15
          Quote: Botanologist
          The main thing is to make sure that the story is not written by Mikhalkov and his accomplices

          You just noticed that, because the younger generation isn’t just books, but films are more interesting, and our cinema is now critically ill with a liberal infection. And after all, these figures will not miss anything worthy and heroic on the screens. Thanks to Belarusians, the Brest Fortress appeared only, and the whole world collects money for the 28 Panfilov’s patriotic film .. Maybe even the Ministry of Defense will be able to finance a real movie about our heroic ancestors, regardless of Nikita or Fedka.
          1. polly
            polly 29 October 2013 20: 24 New
            13
            But it’s quite possible to convey the best old films about the war to young people, and not only to shoot new ones, because how many really cool films were shot in the Union based on the works of our front-line writers.
          2. crazy_fencer
            crazy_fencer 30 October 2013 08: 57 New
            +3
            Nothing, nothing - let them read too. Since the current generation has practically stopped reading at all. Test, not test - they will remember something in any case. There is still a correct phrase in this respect (not mine): "A book is always better than a film, because in the imagination there are no restrictions on special effects." The only thing is that it would be good if it wasn't a modern history textbook for the school ...
        2. Lavr75
          Lavr75 29 October 2013 17: 57 New
          +8
          I can say with great confidence that it will be so and Mikhalkov, Shoigu and Mikhalkov will be appointed director, by the way, they have long friendly relations. These relations began during the filming of the Siberian Barber, when equipment and personnel of the Ministry of Emergencies were used for free. And now, God himself ordered Drugan to tighten, and at the same time emergency lights from mines. Return the defense, but what about the master, and without a flasher.
          1. creak
            creak 29 October 2013 18: 07 New
            +7
            So Mikhalkov got the deservedly nickname Migalkov ...
            There was a master, but all went out, there were only show-offs and ambitions out of reason.
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 29 October 2013 18: 38 New
          +4
          Quote: Botanologist
          The main thing is to make sure that the story is not written by Mikhalkov and his accomplices, but by someone more professionally.

          They will ask Fedya to remove the next masterpiece in 3D, with beautiful zalepuhi!
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 29 October 2013 18: 40 New
            +2
            Quote: APASUS
            They will ask Fedyu to remove another masterpiece in 3D


            They will give money and remove what problems?
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 29 October 2013 20: 03 New
              +4
              Quote: Vadivak
              They will give money and remove what problems?

              The problems are that people go to look at 3D bullshit, historical facts do not matter. Zalephukh began to supplant the history of our country.
        4. luka095
          luka095 29 October 2013 21: 52 New
          +1
          It is unlikely that he will write a textbook. Rather, one of the military historians writes ...
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 30 October 2013 09: 46 New
            0
            only historians are different. Yesterday, on OTR, one said: I think Stalin thought SO and THIS. Is that a historian?
      2. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 29 October 2013 14: 17 New
        +8
        Quote: Slevinst
        will help. not everyone is interested in history but everyone should know it



        Must know the BASIS! And an "ignorant" soldier is worse than a foreign mercenary
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 29 October 2013 17: 40 New
          +8
          Quote: nick 1 and 2
          Must know the BASIS! And an "ignorant" soldier is worse than a foreign mercenary

          I agree with every word. "History makes a person a citizen." Pushkin
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 29 October 2013 18: 47 New
            +1
            Quote: novobranets
            "History makes a person a citizen." Pushkin


            This quote is not necessary to quote okay? He pledged his serfs under card debts remaining 76 souls of Kistenov serf peasants remaining free from bail, for which on July 20, 1834 he received 13 rubles. Prior to this, on February 242, 5, he laid these 1831 souls for 200 years for 37 rubles in the Board of Trustees.

            A few days before the wedding, which was February 18, Pushkin wrote P.A. Pletnev: “I present to you an economic report: I laid my 200 souls, took 38000 - and here’s the distribution: 11.000 mother-in-law, who certainly wanted her daughter to be with a dowry - write lost, 10.000 Nashchokin, to help him out of bad circumstances: true money. There remains 17000 for acquiring and living a year ... now do you understand what dowry means and why I was angry? To take a wife without a fortune - I am able to, but I am not able to go into debt for her rags. But I’m stubborn and had to insist at least on the wedding. ”



            That such a scum the poet was. As well as all the artists are clowns
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 29 October 2013 21: 06 New
              10
              Quote: Vadivak
              That such a scum the poet was. As well as all the artists are clowns

              Why "scum" at once? Pushkin was a product of that time and the environment that surrounded him.
              It would be more appropriate to say: "About times!, About morals! ..."(O tempora! O mores!)
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 29 October 2013 22: 30 New
                +1
                Quote: Corsair
                Pushkin is a product of that time


                Not true. Pushkin is the same slave trader of that time as Nikolai Palkin. Something he did not get to Siberia with the Decembrists. I scored. I really wanted to go abroad.
                Read for self-education.


                He writes to Vyazemsky: “You, who are not tied, how can you stay in Russia? If the king gives me a settlement, then I will not stay a month. We live in a sad age, but when I imagine London, cast-iron roads, steam ships, English magazines or Parisian theaters and ‹-------›, then my deaf Mikhailovsky makes me sad and furious.


                Oh how. And you are the motherland. Yes, hereditary negro wanted to spit on her
                1. DEfindER
                  DEfindER 30 October 2013 15: 39 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  We live in a sad age, but when I imagine London, cast-iron roads, steam ships, English magazines or Parisian theaters and ‹-------›, then my deaf Mikhailovsky makes me sad and furious.

                  Well, in general, all talented people are prone to dissent and criticism of the government. But at the same time, it was Russia that made Pushkin that Pushkin whom we know, if I had dumped somewhere I could not have created such masterpieces, he wrote about Russia and it can be seen from his works that he loved her. And you can dig Chernukha on anyone, actually the West has always done this and denigrating the best of us.
            2. smel
              smel 29 October 2013 21: 08 New
              +9
              That such a scum the poet was.
              This man did a lot for my Motherland. At that time, bonfires were still burning in blissful Europe. And it is not his fault that he lived at that time. Our descendants will not forgive us a lot. First, try reading Pushkin's prose. Especially the original "The History of the Pugachev Uprising" (if it turns out to be found after being stopped in Soviet times). And if you do even a hundredth part of what he has done, then judge. Although it does not hurt to remind: do not judge, and you yourself will not be judged. So MINUS for anger
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 29 October 2013 22: 16 New
                +1
                Quote: smel
                This man has done a lot for my homeland.

                Name it. In addition to women, of course, and poetry.
                Quote: smel
                At that time, bonfires were still burning in Europe.

                At that time, people were not trafficked there.
                Quote: smel
                And if at least you make a hundredth part of what he has done, then judge.

                And how do you know what I did for the country? And understand already - to write and do different things. In tsarist Russia, nobles like Ogarev liberated peasants, people of the same faith, and fell for this in Siberia, and there were Pushkins who sold them. They drank sweetly and ate swan in front of Nikolai. Would Pushkin sell your family, as it were, then?
                1. Misantrop
                  Misantrop 29 October 2013 22: 23 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  Quote: smel
                  At that time, bonfires were still burning in Europe.
                  At that time, people were not trafficked there.
                  In Europe itself, in fact, they have almost ceased. But democratic Europeans famously traded slaves, selling those to America and the Caribbean planters. In the United States, slaves were by no means driven on cane pies. wink
                  1. Vadivak
                    Vadivak 29 October 2013 22: 36 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Misantrop
                    In Europe itself, in fact, they have almost ceased.


                    I know. In London, the subway was launched, and serfdom was canceled here. About the black slave trade this is a separate song.
                    Quote: Misantrop
                    democratic Europeans famously traded slaves, selling them to America

                    In 1808, there was a ban on black trade by the British equated to piracy. And we have nothing. The gentlemen of the landowners traded the Orthodox
                    1. Misantrop
                      Misantrop 29 October 2013 23: 55 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Vadivak
                      In 1808, there was a ban on black trade by the British equated to piracy.
                      And how many from the moment of the adoption of this law did the British plant American planters from the southern states for piracy? lol
                2. gladysheff2010
                  gladysheff2010 29 October 2013 23: 30 New
                  +5
                  Perhaps with such sparkling viciousness you are able to go down in history, local, say, the history of this site. But aligning yourself with truly historical figures is probably immodest, and indecent.
                  1. Vadivak
                    Vadivak 30 October 2013 08: 38 New
                    +3
                    Quote: gladysheff2010
                    But to align yourself with truly historical figures is probably immodest


                    How do you not understand. By your logic, today Chubais is for you the evil creature. And tomorrow is a historical figure. Pushkin is an ordinary serfman who sells people and at the same time dreams of abroad
                3. DEfindER
                  DEfindER 30 October 2013 15: 44 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vadivak
                  Quote: smelThis person has done a lot for my homeland
                  Quote: Vadivak: Name it. In addition to women, of course, and poetry.

                  Well, for starters - he ranks first in the world in the ranking of poets, Shakespeare in second ..
                  Not to mention the fact that almost every educated earthling knows him ..
            3. Tyumen
              Tyumen 30 October 2013 08: 11 New
              +1
              Vadivak, why did you write this? You can’t measure the Poet with a philistine measure. It’s so possible
              say that Vysotsky was a jerk and worthless father, and Mayakovsky a rag and slobber-Lilya
              shared with Osip, etc., etc. We do not love them for this. I have been reading yours for three years with pleasure
              comments, and then they took and wrote an abomination. Have you been drunk yesterday?
              PS Sorry if that.
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 30 October 2013 08: 32 New
                +3
                Quote: Tyumen
                You can’t measure the Poet with a philistine measure.


                The poet is primarily a citizen.
                Quote: Tyumen
                After all, it can be said that Vysotsky was an upset and worthless father,

                It's your right. But Vysotsky did not want to run away from the country and did not sell his homeland.
                Quote: Tyumen
                Have you been drunk yesterday?

                Angry at the Komsomol
                1. Tyumen
                  Tyumen 30 October 2013 10: 56 New
                  +1
                  If I’m not mistaken, you wrote two years ago that you are the leader of some kind of youth society.
                  Type of military-patriotic. How does this fit with anger at the Komsomol?
      3. O_RUS
        O_RUS 29 October 2013 16: 52 New
        +3
        +

        History is our past, present ... creation and development of our state ... experience and acquired knowledge
      4. bif
        bif 30 October 2013 02: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Slevinst
        not everyone is interested in history but everyone should know it

        "Without knowing the past, one cannot love the present, think about the future."
    2. Volkhov
      Volkhov 29 October 2013 12: 22 New
      +2
      Psychiatrists will help by specializing one hemisphere of the brain for offsets, and the other for reality. Now the propaganda dregs do not always coexist with common sense and an internal conflict arises, leading to various crises and "stress relief", and if you dilute propaganda and life at different levels of consciousness, you get an "excellent student" and at the same time not crazy - this is the business of Shoigu's relatives , psychology is their profession.
    3. Russ69
      Russ69 29 October 2013 12: 50 New
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      Quote: Metlik
      Offsets will not help if the book is not of interest.

      They will help ... I didn’t surrender, you stay in the second year ... smile
    4. mirag2
      mirag2 29 October 2013 14: 10 New
      10
      I wrote a post but demolished it, because then it hit me like an electric shock!
      Who suggested? -Chief editor "MK", ​​Gusev!
      I will not talk about MK as a newspaper.

      So you know what is the current trend in journalism?
      I’ll tell you, in the general mass (in Moscow), this mood:
      "like, yes, we have now turned the nuts and we have to write that Putin is good, and Russia is rushing forward like a tank, and in general everything is gut-BUT we all know (that is, they are journalists) -that we have everything is bad, and prices are growing, and garbage is endless, and Khodorkovsky is our president, but now he is suffering ... But, well, we have such a job, we will say that Putin is a good fellow, and Russia is a good fellow. required -but we will remain in our opinion. "
      And Gusev is a trader in prostitutes, he has half a newspaper in his leisure phones. I was astonished 10 years ago, how can this be?
      Yes, only for the publication of these phones, he, as the decomposer of our society, his morals and principles must be beaten every day.
      Moreover, that would Badiuk beat him.
      I think that Gusev Shoigu divorced the extra grandmother. Filmmakers in our country are very good at doing, not in our economy.
      And whom does Gusev-You represent, I think you understand.
      I already said here more than once - how I accidentally got to the synagogue on some Jewish holiday - they also distributed help there - and that's why everyone was with a container - and ALMOST ALL had packages with the inscription "Union of Journalists".
      Looking at the screen and surnames-CONCLUSIONS YOURSELF DO NOT APPLY FOR YOURSELF-A SHOT IN THE EYES.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 29 October 2013 15: 08 New
        +9
        And by and large it would not matter who they are Jews, Uzbeks, or Latvians, I just notice such a trick: Berezovsky is a Jew, Latynina is a Jew, Venediktov is a Jew, even Kasparov (I thought how the Armenian turned out to be in a "swamp "?) - also a Jew. You can list for a long time. For a very long time such people, even once I wrote that two girls worked with my wife at a defense enterprise, they did not do anything, they bought and sold all day online (one clothes, other cosmetics) received a salary of 30 rubles each, constantly indignant at how bad our boss had kicked them out, got rid of the ballast, also one of them, Dortman, a Jewess.
        It is also worth reading in the British (!) Encyclopedia on the role of Jews in exterminationRussian intelligentsia and then they will have to ask the same question that they asked the Germans after the Second World War.
        Gentlemen, I have not composed ANYTHING here.
        And I fell out of love with the Jews not so long ago, and when I came across this topic more closely, and with the Russian intelligentsia, and when I saw WHO AND FOR WHAT Stalin planted, and much more.
        Yes, at least read Pikul. Why now they don't talk about him anywhere?
        Because the media say what is beneficial to most of its representatives.
        And what kind of patriotism can we talk about if our media has an explicit FIFTH column. It is still possible to marvel at how we managed to pop out from under their brain proto-tyralov.
        Right now, we are being imposed from underneath such a topic that the Jews are right almost all geniuses, professors, at worst.
        And take a look at Dostoevsky's "Notes from the House of the Dead" - how is the Jew Isai Fomich described there? - Comedy, IMPRESSED stupid.
        This is the truth of life — and stupid Jews, I have seen much more in my lifetime than professors.
        And what kind of garbage? Don’t call a Jew a Jew, don’t groan a Jewish product, don’t I live in my country? For the freedom of which my two grandfathers died? One is a sapper in Stalingrad, the other is an artilleryman in Berlin on May 8, 1945, captain was.
        I am silent about the fact that it is not clear why the literary word is forbidden ....
        1. zub46
          zub46 29 October 2013 19: 10 New
          +4
          Saltykov-Shchedrin with N.V. Gogol also did not favor these guys for some reason ...
          1. Tyumen
            Tyumen 31 October 2013 11: 53 New
            0
            And remember Prishvin’s notes - They don’t hate anyone in the province like the Cadets do.
            Being a cadet is almost like being a Jew.
        2. ty60
          ty60 29 October 2013 21: 59 New
          +4
          there is no brave fighter in the world - than a frightened Jew
      2. varov14
        varov14 29 October 2013 15: 19 New
        +2
        Mr. Gusev suggested something out of selfish motives, but Shoigu connects the prize not with the post of Minister of Defense, but with the whole Ministry of Defense, well, not all the same there are fools. There was one furniture djager and what.
    5. Realist58
      Realist58 29 October 2013 23: 53 New
      +3
      Yeah, the charter of the guard service, the rules for the use of weapons (6 points) and the law on the state border were extremely interesting reading ...)))
      I still remember by heart - "The state border is a line, and a vertical surface passing along this line defines the boundaries of the territory of the USSR. Its waters, bowels, airspace ..."
    6. roial
      roial 30 October 2013 10: 39 New
      +1
      We go further along the path of humanization of military service


      Where are we going ??
  2. smel
    smel 29 October 2013 12: 11 New
    11
    Recently I found a book in my store: "I. Stalin on the Great Patriotic War", published in 1947. I can offer it for writing in the still-being created textbook for soldiers of the section on the Second World War.
  3. Luger
    Luger 29 October 2013 12: 11 New
    +9
    This studio will be opened due to financing from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Why is it needed? Cheaper to place an order at an existing studio! There is also FZ-94 which determines the order of placing orders, works and services. And the creation of the studio is not only the cost of creation, but also in content, etc. etc., why ?! It seems to me there are 1 other areas where this money could be spent.
    Regarding shower cabins, it’s a good idea to wash once a week with cold water wasn’t very good. But with a buffet, this is garbage, a serving method in which some people don’t get a meal, it seems to me that a soldier should to be full and get the number of calories, according to the requirements for the diet of a serviceman of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, everything else is NOT NEEDED TINDLE.
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 29 October 2013 12: 28 New
      +8
      -The proposed army buffet is somewhat different from the civilian ...
      These are several options for the so-called. "set meal" of the same nutritional value.
      -In the American army, a fighter (at his own expense) can get balabas in excess of the prescribed ration - no need to run into the "cap" ...
    2. PPL
      PPL 29 October 2013 14: 04 New
      +2
      This studio will be opened due to financing from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Why is it needed?

      In order to then pass it on to the next "Observer", as the TV company "Zvezda" did in its time.
    3. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations 29 October 2013 14: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: Luger
      NOT NEED MISHURA

      Tinsel will, Shoigu loves her very much. There are various pictures, chevrons, electrics, fireproof capes and other energy sockets
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 29 October 2013 19: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: Salavat EMERCOM
        Tinsel will Shoigu really loves her


        As well as Lexus and Mercedes

        August 5, 2013 As an officer of the Main Armored Directorate told the publication, the head of the military department Sergei Shoigu himself granted the German car to Serdyukov.
    4. mirag2
      mirag2 29 October 2013 14: 41 New
      +3
      That's right, at least "Zvezda" was given to shoot documentaries, etc.
      And then after all, on the network our films are entirely enthusiasts post ...
      Why not create an Internet portal of what kind, there are several sites.
      At the level. Like Russia Today, on this channel, video of any quality goes without brakes, and on the VGTRK website, try to watch something, rotten quality. And it always hangs ...
      1. Tyumen
        Tyumen 31 October 2013 14: 38 New
        0
        Administration, and it is possible to make a section on the "Military Review", or whatever it is called,
        with good war movies?
    5. aleks
      aleks 29 October 2013 14: 46 New
      +3
      Particularly impressive is two days off and a dismissal in civilian clothes — but what about constant combat readiness? Each military unit should be in constant readiness or what?
      1. zub46
        zub46 29 October 2013 19: 13 New
        0
        The stupidity of pure water. In addition to unhealthy relaxation and the problems caused by it, it will not bring anything.
  4. military
    military 29 October 2013 12: 23 New
    +8
    conscripts will not only study it, but also take tests on it.

    academic system? ... two unsuccessful retakes and ... - "expulsion" for demobilization? ...
    or, nevertheless, they will leave for the second year? ... laughing
    "We are moving further along the path of humanizing military service," Shoigu said. "We have conscripts who have two days off, use the opportunity to go on leave in civilian clothes, call on a mobile phone, and also use e-mail and communicate on Skype."

    as they "serve", so they will fight ...
    1. Doctor Evil
      Doctor Evil 29 October 2013 13: 07 New
      +5
      I'm afraid the academic system is beyond the power of yesterday’s schoolchildren imprisoned in the USE. They will choose from several answers the correct one. Whoever scores the most points may snoop on the buffet once again winked
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 29 October 2013 19: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: Doctor Evil
        maybe once again sniff at the buffet


        And where are they still grumbling?

        Dmitry Livanov Minister without education - The Academy of Sciences is not viable.

        In 2003, with a crushing score, he failed in the election of member-members in the Department of Physical Sciences of the Russian Academy of Sciences: two “for”, the rest “against”.
    2. IRBIS
      IRBIS 29 October 2013 14: 24 New
      +8
      Quote: military
      as they "serve", so they will fight ...

      good Absolutely right! They are already serving in such a way that they will obviously not go to war. And what a war for them? The contractors will simply break contracts. And the discipline is now in parts, in its definition, zero. I want - I do not want, I will - I will not, a call to the "assistant prosecutor" or to the committee of the soldiers' mothers - this is in response to any order that the soldier considered humiliating for himself. Beauty!!! Everything suits everyone, peace and blessing ... All the worries of a soldier - to devour, but to sleep ...
    3. baltika-18
      baltika-18 29 October 2013 14: 40 New
      +4
      Quote: military
      "We are moving further along the path of humanizing military service," Shoigu said. "We have conscripts who have two days off, use the opportunity to go on leave in civilian clothes, call on a mobile phone, and also use e-mail and communicate on Skype."
      as they "serve", so they will fight.

      Yes, and serve only a year .....
      The snot behind them there is still not wiped off by chance ....
      In short, they made the hell out of the army ...
      And Shoigu .... Trinket, one word ...
      1. military
        military 29 October 2013 15: 07 New
        +2
        Quote: baltika-18
        Trinket, one word ...

        All these "innovations" from Shoigu - both the Pulitzer Prize, the film company, and the "newest" military history - fit well into the traditional framework of ostentatious measures to raise the image ... but whose? ... the image of military service? .. . or, nevertheless, the personal image of the minister? ... I, nevertheless, "vote" for the second option ...
    4. angarchanin
      angarchanin 29 October 2013 17: 22 New
      +2
      If they leave to serve until they give up their tails, "then all the soldiers will become" excellent students in combat and political training. "
  5. kafa
    kafa 29 October 2013 12: 24 New
    +8
    the shower was correct; the shoulder strap from the belly removed the buffet correctly; it’s not right (because it’s not a resort, and at the spas it’s a mess) it’s not right to remove footcloths (my wife knows the benefits of footcloths, even if it’s a peaceful city man) we are waiting for more than the right thing and God’s protect hi
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 29 October 2013 12: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: kafa
      removed the shoulder strap from the belly

      Beautiful, but uncomfortable. Although who in essence cares, doesn’t it?
      1. kafa
        kafa 29 October 2013 12: 54 New
        0
        Sorry for such a modest question YOU wore epaulets?
        1. sanyabasik
          sanyabasik 29 October 2013 13: 01 New
          0
          Quote: kafa
          Sorry for such a modest question YOU wore epaulets?

          good
        2. military
          military 29 October 2013 14: 53 New
          +6
          Quote: kafa
          Sorry for such a modest question YOU wore epaulets?

          hi I wore ... 25 years ... however, somehow I didn’t happen on the belly ... I didn’t have time ... I don’t even know whether to rejoice or cry ... wink
          but about "beautiful" ... so, in my opinion, a shoulder strap on the belly and a braid embroidered with a gold thread on the back - one field of berries ...
          1. kafa
            kafa 29 October 2013 15: 03 New
            +3
            if the epaulette wore then the right thing is not about beauty but about honor this conversation "so, in my opinion, the epaulette on the belly and the braid, embroidered with a gold thread on the back, - one field of berries ..." here I completely agree with you
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 29 October 2013 15: 49 New
              +4
              If a person does not know that shoulder straps are in the head, and not on the shoulders, which is more important than the form, but the content, then it really is very important for him where the shoulder straps are located, how bright the chevrons are and how many plates on the chest fit.
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 29 October 2013 15: 43 New
            +2
            Then you know how much straps and straps like to cling to shoulder straps on shoulders. But you can sacrifice convenience for the sake of the appearance of the field form? Suddenly, Manya from the front-line pig farm will wander into the trench.
            1. angarchanin
              angarchanin 29 October 2013 17: 30 New
              +3
              All this is strange. In my time in aviation, there was no raid (technical) uniform and everything was fine - no one was offended.
              1. zub46
                zub46 29 October 2013 19: 23 New
                +4
                Field uniforms of the Airborne Forces in the spring-summer-autumn - somewhere until the end of the 70s - just a jumpsuit without any shoulder straps, other insignia, stripes and braids on the butt. This is just for going out into the fields. And nothing, it was normal. Only the officers had one problem. Since outwardly all are the same, incl. on carried weapons, in conditions of insufficient visibility one could run into excessive familiarity from the soldiers. And without malicious intent. Therefore, many took an uncomfortable cap with them in order to somehow be different. The situation was somewhat straightened by the "cabbage" berets introduced at the end of 1969.
        3. Lopatov
          Lopatov 29 October 2013 15: 40 New
          +2
          Did you wear it yourself? I'm especially interested in what you think about shoulder straps and body armor and unloading
    2. Metlik
      Metlik 29 October 2013 12: 57 New
      12
      About the footcloth. Wearing them is of course not necessary. But the soldier should be able to reel. Any hole in the sock is a corn and the soldier is not combat-ready.
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 29 October 2013 13: 52 New
        11
        It's not even about the holes. Footcloths are stupidly warmer! And we have far from Sahara
      2. ty60
        ty60 29 October 2013 22: 08 New
        +5
        a wet footcloth is rewound with the other end and the feet are warm and dry. The wet ends quickly dry on the lower leg. A bag with socks is not an option
    3. Realist58
      Realist58 29 October 2013 23: 47 New
      0
      I don’t understand why the people are so hung up on this epaulet ...

      I remember when an Afghan woman was introduced, anecdotes about the captain of the goldsmith and the "ensign" with big stars went for a long time wassat
  6. waisson
    waisson 29 October 2013 12: 27 New
    +5
    the prize is right, but who will receive it Bondarchuk and Mikhalkov who will decide who to give it to among filmmakers about literature who will read it if the annual fighters have two days off a week for hard workers in civilian life, not everyone has civilian youth but books I’ll continue further for the monuments plus the heroes of their homeland should know the entire course of military history, too, the right decision at least a little brains will be cleaned by fighters from all kinds of spiders and batsman people. But are there not so much freedom given to fighters for the year of service and we deserved vacation and they have it in the order of things what kind of soldiers are they looking and in pursuit I spit on them the cadets look courageous and what about the Swedish table and what didn’t allow delivery of pizza and rolls he ... b and only
    1. Mhpv
      Mhpv 29 October 2013 13: 31 New
      13
      Better to let them study history under duress, at least in the service, than from the films of Bondarchuk and the "Tsar" Mikhalkov.
      1. Tyumen
        Tyumen 29 October 2013 21: 53 New
        +8
        The actor’s income is so fragile, the directors are on horseback,
        And there is no simpler thing in the world than shooting films about the war.
        The hero runs to the embrasure to die like a communist,
        But then the agency reports that the sponsor is anti-Stalinist.

        And behind the protagonist’s back there is a detachment,
        Specialists thrive at headquarters, and mothers are generals.
        All over the country, Comrade Stalin is making bloody lawlessness,
        But in the corridor they whispered that the sponsor seemed to be sitting.

        The hero rips off the tunic, under it are the golden domes,
        Stop it, screaming, rotten graters, you’ll answer the bastard, for the goat.
        The Bundesites answered, and suddenly the recidivist hero
        But then they said on the radio that the new sponsor is a monarchist.

        The hero in the line of mother was Prince Yusupov-Trubetskoy,
        For which, of course, he was planted, and slang learned the thief.
        But the same crunch of French rolls in his thoroughbred face,
        And then they chatted in an alley that the sponsor loves the Russian Orthodox Church.

        The clerks are censing, prayers are thundering, a plane is circling with the icon,
        Fighters instead of the political leader are leading the attack.
        And yielding to the power of the cross, the insidious German runs,
        But then the cop was requested, they said, a sponsor addict.

        Hero-participant of the rally "Nashi", he sleeps and has a strange dream,
        Now he will tell Stalin about the intermediate cartridge.
        What a plot! What a shot! And I still want to 3D!
        But the psychiatrists called, said enough, Bondarchuk.
  7. pensioner
    pensioner 29 October 2013 12: 27 New
    +5
    The minister also said that a bill has been sent for consideration under which contract soldiers will be entitled to parental leave.

    Well, that's it ... Right now, it will start ...
  8. Lopatov
    Lopatov 29 October 2013 12: 32 New
    +8
    Damn, how much can you self-promote? When Shoigu finally starts working, a year would be enough for his eyes. And real deeds during this time are ZERO.
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 29 October 2013 13: 22 New
      +5
      Quote: Spade
      Damn, how much can you self-promote?

      Yes, that was the first thought after reading the article.
      Like everything correct does, but ... the Army itself is also sometimes engaged in the Nana.

      I do not grumble, this is a wish. And such a theater from the Army began to look through.
      1. es.d
        es.d 29 October 2013 13: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: Aleks tv
        It seems that he is doing the right thing, but ... the Army itself is also sometimes engaged in the Nana.

        In-in! But does he listen to Shamanov (as an example)?
      2. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
        Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations 29 October 2013 14: 22 New
        +7
        Quote: Aleks tv
        And such a theater from the Army began to look through.

        Nothing, soon the Army will become just a theater, like the Emergencies Ministry now.
        And the generals theaters will be much more.
      3. IRBIS
        IRBIS 29 October 2013 14: 42 New
        +7
        Quote: Aleks tv
        And such a theater from the Army began to look through.

        Alexei, the theater of the absurd in the army is no longer visible - he is on the face! And Shoigu is one of the best ministers of various performances.
        1. military
          military 29 October 2013 15: 25 New
          +5
          Quote: IRBIS
          And Shoigu is one of the best ministers of various performances.

          deja vu ... "The Most Serene One" at the court of Catherine II ...
          1. IRBIS
            IRBIS 29 October 2013 17: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: military
            deja vu ... "The Most Serene One" at the court of Catherine II ...

            Nope ... The "Serene One" never had such a hat ...
            1. military
              military 30 October 2013 10: 38 New
              0
              Quote: IRBIS
              Nope ... The "Serene One" never had such a hat ...

              hi laughing good
        2. novobranets
          novobranets 29 October 2013 17: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: IRBIS
          And Shoigu is one of the best ministers of various performances.

          Oh, brothers, and not early, we were glad that Shoigu became a minister? Time is running out, and besides show off, little is happening. Not an army, but a circus. Weekends, holidays, mobile phones, soon the brothel soldiers will demand to open. Choi is nothing to rejoice at.
    2. Mhpv
      Mhpv 29 October 2013 13: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Spade
      When Shoigu finally starts working, a year would be enough for his eyes.

      Remember the poems:
      We are three hundred years old Tatars bent
      And they could not bend in any way.
      Here, for three (two) years, they bent so
      For three hundred years, do not straighten!
      So with the Army, Serdyukov and his women bent the army and the MO so much that only Shoigu couldn’t straighten out for a year, or even more, but things were noticeable, you shouldn’t twist like that.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 29 October 2013 15: 51 New
        +6
        There it is that the evil Serdyukov does not give Shoigu to work, forcing him to do self-PR first of all.
    3. military
      military 29 October 2013 15: 14 New
      +4
      Quote: Spade
      Damn, how much can you self-promote?

      for a long time ... for a very long time ... MES-nicknames know ...
    4. creak
      creak 29 October 2013 18: 22 New
      +3
      And moving the MO from the center to Frunze Embankment. - it’s also probably a matter ... How much work you have to, it’s settled in a new place and will work in full force ...
  9. Djozz
    Djozz 29 October 2013 12: 47 New
    0
    Ya.B. advised Shoigu in the case of bullying, to act as in the Presidential Regiment, where the companies of old-timers and young people have separate rooms and are in contact, only for service.
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 29 October 2013 13: 54 New
      +4
      What are the "senior employees" for the year? Dembelki?
      1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
        Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations 29 October 2013 14: 24 New
        +5
        Quote: Serg 122
        What are the "senior employees" for the year? Dembelki?

        What demob? Ordinary scoops and elephants
    2. IRBIS
      IRBIS 29 October 2013 14: 44 New
      +4
      Quote: Djozz
      there companies of old-timers and young people have separate rooms and are in contact, only in the service.

      This is an indicator that the path of least resistance is chosen. How to fight, according to the calls?
      1. military
        military 29 October 2013 15: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: IRBIS
        This is an indicator that the path of least resistance is chosen. How to fight, according to the calls?

        some to the trenches ... others to the detachments ... bully
        1. IRBIS
          IRBIS 29 October 2013 17: 54 New
          +2
          Quote: military
          some to the trenches ... others to the detachments ...

          We were lucky. I can’t even figure out where we will be by the term of our service.
          1. military
            military 30 October 2013 10: 46 New
            0
            Quote: IRBIS
            I can’t even figure out where we will be by the term of our service.

            we will partisan ... laughing
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 29 October 2013 15: 53 New
        +2
        Of course. Those who served less than six months will remain in the barracks. This norm is already 14 years old.
        1. zub46
          zub46 29 October 2013 19: 35 New
          +3
          More. Back in 1968, the personnel, who had not served for six months, was left to guard and maintain the town, while the rest sat at the airport in readiness to fly to Czechoslovakia. This is the month of August. And I - the May call - guarded the warehouses near Pskov.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 29 October 2013 20: 30 New
            +1
            Especially. The norm is quite correct.
            It would be better for Shoigu to understand the manning of troops, otherwise full game is going on.
    3. vty971
      vty971 29 October 2013 15: 18 New
      +4
      Already passed this in the army (I say as an old company) you will bring up such from scratch, and then somehow they have a demobilization quickly and then again wipe their snot
  10. Serg 122
    Serg 122 29 October 2013 12: 50 New
    +3
    "We are moving further along the path of humanizing military service," Shoigu said. "We have conscripts who have two days off, use the opportunity to go on leave in civilian clothes, call by mobile phone, and also use e-mail and communicate on Skype."
    Sorry, but all the lies are pure water! Now the son himself is serving - of all that is listed, they are only allowed to call once a Sunday after lunch. And then they stand above the soul, so that, God forbid, they did not blurt out the excess ... angry
    1. military
      military 29 October 2013 15: 36 New
      +5
      Quote: Serg 122
      Sorry, but all the lies are pure water!

      get used to it ... yes ministers constantly lie to the press ... this is the rule ... and Kozhugetovich is by no means a pleasant exception to it ... wink
    2. corn
      corn 29 October 2013 22: 36 New
      0
      You know now I’m sitting, reading comments, before reading comments I ran through the Charter of the Internal Service of the Russian Federation (as amended) only regarding the issues raised in the article. You are completely right. I’ll finish reading the comments, maybe I will comment on the article and the commentators myself.
  11. rpek32
    rpek32 29 October 2013 13: 01 New
    +1
    what news about new emblems?
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 29 October 2013 14: 46 New
      +7
      Quote: rpek32
      what news about new emblems?

      While they think. There is free space on the back and on .ope. The question is solved - what and where to send ...
      1. military
        military 29 October 2013 15: 50 New
        +4
        Quote: IRBIS
        There is free space on the back and on .ope. The question is solved - what and where to send ...

        the opinion of the "Jedi Council" under the Minister was split? ... the source of the Force of the young Padawans below the waist they see? ... repeat
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 29 October 2013 15: 58 New
        +4
        The back is busy. There will be an inscription in large letters "Ministry of Defense".
        1. military
          military 29 October 2013 16: 24 New
          +3
          means ... Strength, nevertheless, in .ope ... what sad but symbolic ... repeat
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 29 October 2013 16: 30 New
            +6
            My dad soaked it off when he saw Shoigu's caftan: "Listen, and the inscription" Minister of Defense "is so that, looking in the mirror, he still remembers what position he occupies?"
            1. military
              military 29 October 2013 16: 41 New
              +2
              I remember that in our cadet dormitory in Lenkomnat there was a separate stand with photographs of the USSR Ministry of Defense, his deputies, all the Commanders in Chief and the head of the GPU ...
              as the movie hero Pavel Luspekaev said: "- Every dog ​​here used to know me! And now - they forgot! ..." wink
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 29 October 2013 18: 33 New
                +1
                It is necessary to read the statutes, which may have changed, but earlier there was something about "knowing your commanders", because in all the leisure rooms there were stands with photographs. Here, I remember, from the Most Important to the regiment commander inclusive.
                1. kotvov
                  kotvov 30 October 2013 10: 05 New
                  +1
                  and we have portraits of Brezhnev, the Minister of Defense, members of the Politburo. And nothing, they served, as they somehow did not confuse generals, colonels. He served in the district headquarters.
                  1. military
                    military 30 October 2013 11: 00 New
                    0
                    I remember that in my second year I was on duty on New Year's Eve ... in the evening an unfamiliar colonel wandered into the barracks, silently climbed all the "quarters" and just silently left ... turned out to be the "deputy head" of the head of the school ... what while I was climbing through the barracks, nowhere did not a single orderly give the correct command ... in the morning, in the course offices, all daily outfits were fastened with the "Order of St. Eucentius" ... laughing
        2. IRBIS
          IRBIS 29 October 2013 17: 51 New
          +5
          Quote: Spade
          There will be an inscription in large letters "Ministry of Defense".

          I thought that on the back it will be like the athletes - the name and number. And of course the sponsor logo.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 29 October 2013 20: 36 New
            +6
            Quote: IRBIS
            I thought that on the back it will be like the athletes - the name and number. And of course the sponsor logo.

            And what, cool. A soldier sits at the bottom of the trench, grimy, in a torn pea jacket, stuffing a machine-gun belt with his frozen hands. Nearby, the same grimy and ragged machine gunner is firing back from enemies. And both have on their backs "Gazprom-Oil. Dreams Come True"
  12. ramin_serg
    ramin_serg 29 October 2013 13: 06 New
    +1
    I believe that the competition necessary for any army of PR he is in Africa PR
  13. kafa
    kafa 29 October 2013 13: 08 New
    +4
    And here she’s entered or entered smile the main strength of the military ... minus the flood. the stump is clear in different computer toys you prevail the invaluable experience of military operations and what is also important is the experience of conducting a harsh military life. hi HERE MOM am and where is the guru of special dandy or some sort of battle .....
    who did not turn over a wet footcloth at -30 on the street does not have the right to talk about it with those who before that served in the Navy
  14. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil 29 October 2013 13: 17 New
    +1
    I think that "the formation of a positive image of the army in society" is the main vigorous activity of Shoigu as Minister of Defense. Although, conscripts go on leave in civilian clothes, and not in full dress. Awarded for achievement.
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 29 October 2013 13: 58 New
      +1
      Do you know why they go out in civilian life? That there would be less problems with military police! Why would the unit commander then listen to the commandant about his soldiers? Plus, this report then leaves for Moscow - after all, the police must also show their work!
      (I apologize for the "policemen" - but this is the truth of life)
      1. Doctor Evil
        Doctor Evil 29 October 2013 15: 41 New
        +4
        Yes, I understand. I just found the time when before leaving for dismissal they were built for inspection and instruction. Shone like new coins, otherwise they will not be released into the city. And no patrol was scary, getting caught was considered bad form. I was not ashamed of the form. For his behavior, too.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 29 October 2013 16: 00 New
          0
          As far as I heard, this is due to the lack of a day-off.
        2. military
          military 29 October 2013 16: 30 New
          +5
          Quote: Doctor Evil
          And no patrol was scary, getting caught was considered bad form.

          in my time 7 days the head of the faculty gave "lips" not for AWOL, but for the fact that the cadet allowed the patrol to catch up with him ... "for a low level of sports training" ... laughing
        3. Serg 122
          Serg 122 29 October 2013 18: 32 New
          +3
          Yes, many people found this time ... Previously, passing by the commandant's office and not rattling there (with any level of training) was absolutely not realistic. We have 100% ... We were afraid of patrols like fire ... But right now all the fuck @@@ Renault. When the commandant's office was reduced, and this disorder went. And now they go in civilian life so that there will be no less problems with newly-appointed guardians of the Charter of the RF Ministry of Defense ...
        4. military
          military 30 October 2013 11: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Doctor Evil
          Shone like new coins, otherwise they will not be released into the city.

          like a cat's personal belongings ... even socks for their "statutory appearance" were checked ...
          remembered ... laughing in the fifth year, one of ours fell into the clutches of the city patrol in an autonomy ... stupidly squeezed from two doors in a trolley bus ... in the morning on the parade ground of the faculty department he fell on him traditional 7 days ... after lunch, shaved and washed up, accompanied by an ensign (beginning AHCh) went to the garrison lip ...
          in the evening, the beginning of the course enters the hostel and stumbles upon the "prisoner" ... asks what the hell is ... it turns out - upon arrival at the "lip" the ensign, as usual, with documents for the "landing" went to report to the commandant of the garrison (in one building with a "lip") ... famously lifting his leg ... the commandant instantly fell into a rage from the "non-regulation" socks he saw ... the result ... the cadet - back to the school, the ensign - 3 days "lips" ... laughing
    2. predator.3
      predator.3 29 October 2013 14: 10 New
      +3
      as for the formation in society of a positive image of the army,

      So the Soviet Army had an image, all the images of the image!

      Another innovation of the Ministry of Defense is devoted to the same goal - the creation of a short course on our military history, specially addressed to soldiers. Such a textbook is planned to be released in November. Shoigu said that the conscripts will not only study him, but also take tests on him. As the minister put it, so that the guys know at least "basic things about the history of the Russian army."


      And why create it, on the site "military education" there is a section "military archive" and "history" there the whole story is perfectly written, let them study it for health!

      By the end of this year, buffets and showers will be organized in all military units.


      Why trifle with a buffet, open restaurants and instead of barracks - five-star hotels! fellow
  15. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 29 October 2013 13: 19 New
    +4
    Award is great. However, much more I personally dream of something else. About people with a military bearing and appropriate training who come to endure the censure. So that directors, scriptwriters, and many other authors have a good idea that shaming the Russian Army is not only a grant and handshake acquaintances, written with enthusiasm. And also with a fist in the face, a heel in the kidneys, a hospital, semolina ... oh, dreams ...
  16. Eternal demobilization
    Eternal demobilization 29 October 2013 13: 26 New
    +2
    Whoever said anything, but this is the only minister - who is respected by the people.
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 29 October 2013 15: 00 New
      11
      Quote: Eternal demobilization
      the only minister - who is respected among the people.

      The ability not to do work, but to show it. The main thing is to constantly carry journalists with cameras everywhere with you. And to shoot where necessary, at the right time and in the right way. Old as the world. And our people are very greedy for such bullshit ...
      1. Eternal demobilization
        Eternal demobilization 29 October 2013 15: 37 New
        -1
        Judging by the set pluses and your minuses, it turns out that most of us are extremely greedy for bullshit, and you are all so all-seeing. What makes you think that he only shows work, but does not do? How much he did in the Emergencies Ministry, all the other ministers put together did not. And, I hope, there will be a result in the MO too. You would have all at once, It does not happen. Moscow was not built in a day. And yet, if you suddenly decide that I directly "deify" him, then I want to say, no, I just, like most people, who are greedy for bullshit, still respect him. At least for the fact that his words do not differ from his deeds.
        1. IRBIS
          IRBIS 29 October 2013 17: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: Eternal demobilization
          How much did he do in the Ministry of Emergencies

          How many? And for the money that was allocated to this ministry, one could really do more.
          Quote: Eternal demobilization
          still respect him.

          I have my own opinion on this matter, without much respect.
          Quote: Eternal demobilization
          And, I hope, the MO will also have a result.

          Well, so far only more of the good old window dressing in everything. The ability to wishful thinking.
          And again - so much money is allocated that it is possible to do something more than coloring the form of clothing with nameplates and gowns.
        2. corn
          corn 29 October 2013 23: 23 New
          +1
          [quote = Eternal demobilization] How much he did in the Ministry of Emergencies

          From the senior lieutenant of the reserve he immediately became a major general, and soon he rose to the rank of army general.
          I want a strong army, but with Shoigu, "I doubt however."
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 29 October 2013 23: 29 New
            +1
            in front of the central office of the Ministry of Emergencies][/ center] I am almost sure that there is no other Main Firefighter or Main Rescuer in the world moving in such a wonderful armored car.
          2. Tyumen
            Tyumen 30 October 2013 00: 08 New
            +1
            Yes, Shoigu’s career is lightning fast. I remember this only in Georgia, since independence. There, the Minister of Defense was a general at 29! years old.
      2. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 29 October 2013 15: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: IRBIS
        The ability not to do work, but to show it.

        Yeah, Alexander.
        So far, only this is visible.
        We'll see.
      3. Lopatov
        Lopatov 29 October 2013 16: 01 New
        +5
        I would rather call it "the ability to show work without doing anything"
        1. military
          military 29 October 2013 16: 32 New
          +4
          Quote: Spade
          I would rather call it "the ability to show work without doing anything"

          good
          this "aerobatics" is available only to aces ... wink
          1. Doctor Evil
            Doctor Evil 29 October 2013 16: 58 New
            +2
            Maybe you remember there was such a TV show "I Serve the Soviet Union"? It had the second name "Visiting a Fairy Tale". History repeats itself, only on a much larger scale.
  17. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 29 October 2013 13: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: Dr. Evil
    I think that "the formation of a positive image of the army in society" is the main vigorous activity of Shoigu as Minister of Defense. Although, conscripts go on leave in civilian clothes, and not in full dress. Awarded for achievement.

    Whatever you say, the prestige and popularity of military service must be increased. There is some kind of rational grain in his actions, although this is clearly not enough.
  18. Hort
    Hort 29 October 2013 13: 45 New
    +2
    the main thing is that the film "Stalingrad" is not given this prize later ...
  19. olviko
    olviko 29 October 2013 13: 55 New
    +7
    Let's hope that the time has passed when a handful of villains seized power, watered the army with slops, destroyed it, as well as the whole country as a whole. There comes an understanding that the army is both the support of the state and the subject of its special attention.
    1. kafa
      kafa 29 October 2013 14: 16 New
      0
      blessed is he who believes but plus I will put
  20. saygon66
    saygon66 29 October 2013 14: 09 New
    +2
    - A classmate served urgent in Mongolia, told: the Mongols served 3 of the year in the army and 5 in the border troops (something like that ..) and the first year of cirics were taught to read, write, brush their teeth, and other perverts of civilization ... and only then oath and service. To learn from experience? laughing
  21. zao74
    zao74 29 October 2013 14: 27 New
    +4
    Shoigu handsome! And the question arises ... Isn’t he the next ...
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 29 October 2013 14: 49 New
      +1
      Yes, it seems like it, or maybe we don’t notice someone, but let’s say the ancient Lavrov, Rogozin is green, but in any case only these three are for no one, although maybe Putin will put forward any child indigo geek laughing
      1. military
        military 29 October 2013 16: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: ZU-23
        maybe we don’t notice someone, but let's say the ancient Lavrov, Rogozin is green

        you don’t notice ... there is Putin, the eternal ... laughing
        1. Eternal demobilization
          Eternal demobilization 29 October 2013 16: 36 New
          +2
          Smiled ... laughing good
        2. ZU-23
          ZU-23 29 October 2013 17: 45 New
          0
          Well, anything can happen, Kennedy was also the president of a great power)))
    2. kafa
      kafa 29 October 2013 15: 07 New
      +1
      I’m not a cadadre but they prophesy it and the action is not invented yesterday wink
  22. JonnyT
    JonnyT 29 October 2013 14: 28 New
    +4
    They cannot allow the soldier to think with his head. It is necessary that he does not have doubts when it is necessary to protect the interests of the stealing elite.
    If corrupt Jews get involved in this, then there’s nothing worth waiting for
  23. ZU-23
    ZU-23 29 October 2013 14: 41 New
    0
    Well done Kazhegetovich! It doesn’t hurt much and it’s not a pity for money, and what is the truth is a serious project, state money, and you see patriotic people pulling themselves in there, this is much cooler than commercial TV shows.
    1. military
      military 29 October 2013 16: 10 New
      0
      Quote: ZU-23
      Well done Kazhegetovich!

      oh mom mia! ... repeat how did he cringe! ... belay
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 29 October 2013 17: 54 New
        0
        Dug in! yes Dad know his Kujuget smile
  24. Mikado
    Mikado 29 October 2013 14: 44 New
    +1
    It would be better to figure it out and give out those who profit from the same orders as with pistols.
    1. kafa
      kafa 29 October 2013 15: 11 New
      +4
      this is not accessible to a simple centurion, then only Zeus and only sometimes
    2. Russ69
      Russ69 30 October 2013 02: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Mikado
      It would be better to figure it out and give out those who profit from the same orders as with pistols.

      Someone has already been fired, though they said that pistols have nothing to do with it. Probably not to interfere with further employment ...
  25. Migari
    Migari 29 October 2013 14: 54 New
    0
    Quote: The eternal demobilization
    Whoever said anything, but this is the only minister - who is respected by the people.

    Because there is something to respect, this is a man of business, and he did not fall off the moon, we all watched when and how the Emergencies Ministry appeared and how he directed it, putting him as defense minister, Putin was in the top ten.
    1. Eternal demobilization
      Eternal demobilization 29 October 2013 16: 38 New
      -1
      The bull's eye..
  26. Stinger
    Stinger 29 October 2013 15: 29 New
    +2
    Nowhere to put samples on this Pavlik from MK. Found someone to listen to. Will he advertise the army for free on the last page of his leaflet in the section on intimate services?
  27. e3tozy
    e3tozy 29 October 2013 16: 56 New
    +4
    Welcome all! Yes, the article is food for thought. Such a thought flashed by why the GDP did not replace Vladimir Shamanov to replace Serdyukov? Combat general, does not look at faces, specialist, I generally am silent about respect.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 29 October 2013 17: 58 New
      +6
      Quote: e3tozy
      Battle general, doesn't look at faces,

      Because they didn’t.
  28. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 29 October 2013 17: 25 New
    +3
    A bit weird. Recently, the film "Brest Fortress" by Belarusians and the book "Variant Bis" by Anisimov, maybe "In August 44". And the main body that tells about the army and forms its image now is journalism, memoirs, military-technical books and programs, analytics, all this goes by the box office. Maybe for the annual award some other categories can be found, not to reward the crafts of the master and the barchuk every year, these are riveted without problems.
  29. sub307
    sub307 29 October 2013 19: 34 New
    +2
    Personally, it seems to me that the "headache" about literature and "other art" somehow does not fit with the post of Minister of Defense. Do you think there is nothing more than "people from art" to reward the head of the Ministry of Defense?
  30. zub46
    zub46 29 October 2013 19: 41 New
    +5
    Guys, about the story. Two nephews have recently graduated from quite decent military schools. Well, military institutions, or how they are now ... Both absolutely know neither the history of the country, nor the history of the Army. They are not interested in this, you see. What is it? Consequences of an ideological war that caused some chaos in the minds? So the idea of ​​compulsory teaching of history is timely, so that there are no "Ivanov who do not remember kinship."
  31. alone
    alone 29 October 2013 20: 06 New
    +3
    Since Shoigu listens to advice, tomorrow I need to write a letter to him with the advice to hold a contest "Miss Army!" wassat

    business must be dealt with, business! and the best thing is PR done, and not drive bullshit.
  32. Massik
    Massik 29 October 2013 22: 13 New
    +4
    We go further along the path of humanization of military service
    "Oooooowuuuu !!! -Sold homeland !!! Ruined the Army !!!" from the cartoon "Paratrooper Stepochkin". On the humanization of military service !!! I must say so wassat !!! The army is created for war (in my opinion laughing ), and war is blood and death. No humanism "Either you - or you and everyone else!" from such armies bodies appear - "Or maybe we will surrender!? I don't want to die!" Why is the old army stronger than the new? Yes, contractors were paid a little, only 10-12 thousand rubles, conscripts were given 10 rarely 15 minutes for lunch, no leave of absence, mobile phones and Internet, the salary did not come to the card 2-3000 rubles, but there was dedication to ideals, they served not for salary, but for conscience ... I don’t care about this reprimand, collection, bonus, 20 rubles will still remain and they will be enough to live, I didn’t get enough sleep, went over the day before, etc., etc. I won’t come to work, I’ll forget about an outfit or go home from lunch. Previously, for such actions, very "weighty" reasons were needed, due to which they would understand you. Conscripts saved up for a new "camok" or ankle boots for a year, treated things much more carefully and looked much neater, were malnourished and did not sleep for 000 days in a row; but in the event of a war, if they were surrounded, if they were cut off from supplies, they will fight much longer than the current
  33. Stinger
    Stinger 29 October 2013 22: 26 New
    +1
    Someone will explain, except for the figures from the "Public Council under the Ministry of Defense", why people were driven out of the Arctic Circle to live in tents and reanimate airfields abandoned 25 years ago before winter came. We are waiting for the attack of polar bears or money has nowhere to go. Do you want to bend as quickly as possible or is the tundra on fire? He is a PR man and is a PR man.
  34. okroshka79
    okroshka79 29 October 2013 22: 31 New
    +3
    ShSK is a self-PR, megalomania and the king of everything and everyone. And what did ShSC do useful with its Ministry of Emergencies? Collapsed GO, all fire services, ditched gims, etc. In addition to the self-promotion and the blue form with labels in all places where it is possible, in which it is hot in summer and cold in winter? Recall the summer of 2010. What worked great when people burned alive. Or just recently, on the Amur, who, basically, struggled with the elements. MOE? So they basically recorded events, but PR, reporting on the whole camp the heroic efforts of completely different. But the information is already slipping - is it not bad to pass the Ministry of Emergencies to the Ministry of Defense? And already the explanatory base of such expediency is being let down. And it is likely that this will happen. But in fact, the year of his work is sheer tinsel. Well, he returned shoulder straps to the field uniform shoulders, well, a tank biathlon with multi-colored tanks, well, he returned the Suvorovites to the parade on Red Square. All this, of course, is good, but somehow a bit small for a leader of this level. Well, about the competition for the best book on the history of our Armed Forces ... So if everything was honestly. Without Nikitok Mikhalkov, and Feday Bondarchukov and the like, but without kickbacks, but somehow I can’t believe it.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 29 October 2013 22: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: okroshka79
      the information is already slipping - but isn’t it bad to transfer the Ministry of Emergencies to the Ministry of Defense
      If only not vice versa
  35. corn
    corn 29 October 2013 23: 03 New
    +2
    For offended civilian and lazy officers.
    Before discussing the last part of the pack, read the Charter of the Internal Service of the Russian Federation

    "in all military units ... showers will also be organized"
    170. To accommodate a company, the following premises must be provided:
    .
    shower room;
    .

    "have two days off"
    219. The distribution of time in a military unit is carried out ...
     At least one day of rest per week is provided to military personnel who are in military service on conscription, as well as military personnel who are under contract military service in military educational institutions of vocational education, permanent readiness units and military training units. The rest of the military personnel undergoing military service under the contract shall be provided with at least one day of rest per week, but at least six days of rest per month.

    "contract soldiers will be eligible for parental leave."
    12. Female military personnel and military personnel raising children without a father (mother) enjoy social guarantees and compensations in accordance with federal laws and other regulatory legal acts of the Russian Federation on the protection of the family, motherhood and childhood.

    And as regards passing tests in history, someone would have allowed in the USSR CA not to pass political training.

    Business must be dealt with, business! And the best thing is to make PR done, and not to drive bullshit (quote Lonely).
    I totally agree.
  36. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 30 October 2013 09: 00 New
    +1
    Ok that's all of course
    But not that, many other more important problems in the army that need to be solved
  37. Guilty
    Guilty 30 October 2013 09: 34 New
    +1
    Quote: Slevinst
    will help. not everyone is interested in history but everyone should know it

    The interest in the subject is not the subject, but how the teacher gives it.
    1. avg
      avg 30 October 2013 09: 59 New
      +1
      Everything for teaching military history is. Textbooks have also been preserved (they used to study the history of war and military art in schools) and teachers - graduates of a group of military historians of the Frunze Academy. It is only necessary to organize the process.
      1. Tyumen
        Tyumen 30 October 2013 12: 02 New
        0
        But as? Every year they rewrite history, look at school textbooks, and get fucked.
        There is a complete stupor of youth in full swing. The guy says that in World War II
        Russia fought with the Chechens, this is the land, nowhere else.
  38. sellrub
    sellrub 30 October 2013 09: 51 New
    0
    I will support the opinion of colleagues. In no case should Nikita Sergeevich Mikhalkov be allowed to implement this wonderful idea. It would be very cool if he was not allowed to any object of the Ministry of Defense closer than 15-20 km .. Not a single film created by this "master" does not match real setting. The main - This man has never managed to show the Soul of a Soviet (Russian) officer (general).