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By the beginning of the sabotage war against Russia: a time of emergency measures

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What is happening in Russia? And just a terrorist attack. A female suicide bomber entered the bus with peaceful people and set off an explosive device mounted on it. Six people died, forty suffered.

On the same day, unknown persons threw two bottles with a Molotov cocktail into the Volgograd mosque.

Prior to this, there was a natural massacre in the capital Biryulyovo.

Prior to this, several people of "eastern appearance" broke into the temple and threatened the priest and the congregation weapons.

Before the events, some craftsmen hacked several Muslim sites and placed on them a photo of a pig's head holding the Koran in its teeth.

In the Kirov region, two natives themselves understand which region was preparing a terrorist attack at a plant for the destruction of chemical weapons. If they succeeded, the casualties would be in the thousands.

The smell of big grants is carried in the air. Obviously, having sniffed, a certain St. Petersburg nationalist Bondarik came up with a remarkable scheme - to pay Russian teenagers money to allow themselves to cut or shoot themselves with traumatic weapons, and then make statements about the attack on them by Caucasians.

The guy is not alone - imitative stories allegedly on behalf of Caucasians beating "russia" have become a popular genre in the nationalist communities.

Today I came across an article on the news site NEWSru.com, in which the painfully familiar style of the late Kavkatsentr tells about the brutal attack of a young man and girl on a Chechen in a Moscow minibus - a Chechen, first shouting “Laugh, bitch!” in the throat, and then tried to finish him off with punches in the heart.

This chain of events can be summed up quite unexpectedly for many, but for me it is quite expected manifesto of Russia's Golden Pen - democratic journalism journalist Oleg Kashin, who previously rant about the inevitability of the collapse of Russia, tweeted pictures of pigs with witty inscriptions “Russian pigs” or photos of a dirty pig, lying in a puddle with the words “Russian, wake up,” and now it’s kindled, felt its identity and wanted to enroll in Russians. "Long live," he says, "the Russian people."

If someone thinks that this is all - this is such a big hairy accident or UFO divided into two buttocks, then he needs to undergo a serious course of treatment for debilizm. This is not an accident or a UFO, but the most natural train ***. This is the very same, promised us public for a long time already, a project alternative to the Swamp. This is exactly what I warned about when I said that "now they will beat us seriously."

At the same time, I ask you to note that a terrible legend is created for the internal consumer that Putin is the leader of the anti-Russian state, he hires the Azerbaijani mafia, and for the external consumer, intellectuals with hands of hands talk about the horrors of Russian fascism, cultivated personally by Putin.

Our dear opponents do not forget about the other flank - the “moron” from the HSE about the need to donate the Arctic to the international community, then Evgenia Markovna Albats will be generous to China.

What is happening now in Ukraine is the arrest of a deputy Markov, the Odessa massacre, DDOS attacks on pro-Russian websites and the clearly preparing closure of the ATV channel, the Bandera-belted, which is also the result of Poklonnaya. This is an attempt abruptly, in spurts on the living, but for the time being it is possible - as far as possible to drag Ukraine from the path of integration into the CU and EurAsEC.

The work, as you can see, is going quite organized and harmonious. Well, what could be the disorder between the heads of the same snake?

Question: with what resources should we solve all these problems? Who will "wet the terrorists in the toilets"? Who, despite all the temptations of simple decisions, should reject the proposals of the “Russian nationalists”? Who should preserve the interethnic world, be patient, stronger and wiser than all?

To overcome these threats and temptations, a high level of people's trust in the state and a high level of citizens' consciousness are needed. How are we with this?

I would like to cite as an illustration some biographies.

To begin with a quote from news about the explosion in Volgograd: “Investigators suggest that the IED could have been manufactured by the husband of the female bomber Dmitry Sokolov, who is on the federal wanted list. Bandit underground member Dmitry Sokolov 1992, who was born, is familiar with the technology of making the VCA and moreover, according to preliminary information, it can be a demolition man. It is not excluded that the manufacture of an SVU that worked on a bus in Volgograd is his handiwork, ”said a law enforcement agency source. At present, intensive searches for action films are underway. His location has not yet been established. "

What is remarkable: this is not a non-Russian suicide bomber who dragged a Russian husband into Wahhabi gangsterism, but vice versa.

“Abu Saad Said al-Buryati (arab. أبو سعد سعيد و N و و (((((((((((((((((((()))))))))));;;;;;;;); при و و при,,; при Алек; X февраля X; 10 February 1982, Ulan-Ude; Ingushetia, Russia) - a member of terrorist groups, an Islamic preacher and one of the ideologues of the North Caucasian armed underground. 2 March 2010, the sources in the Russian security forces have spread the information that Said Buryatsky was killed in Ingushetia. The identity of the victim is confirmed by the results of a forensic examination carried out in Rostov-on-Don. 2 March 4, the President of Ingushetia Yunus-Bek Yevkurov confirmed the death of Said Buryatsky. ”

“Two members of the“ Primorsky Partisans ”group accused of banditry and murder converted to Islam. We are talking about Alexander Kovtun and Roman Savchenko, said RSN. It became known about this after the defendants' lawyer declared that his players were sent to a punishment cell for their namaz. ”

Savchenko and Kovtun are the surviving “maritime partisans” who killed a few people.

And this is just a plus for those who have already decided that “stop feeding the Caucasus” and “Russia for Russians”. And all this is a plus for those who have already signed up for gays, hipsters, liberals and Westerners.

And now, after reading these biographies, it's time to ask the company idiotic question: how did it happen?

Well, let's see how it goes like this.

Let me quote some other people to make it clear:

“I am deeply convinced that the absence of ghouls like Lenin and Stalin is the merit of the American people. Their presence is the fault of the Russian people, in which he is still not ready to admit ... Russia is, after all, also a child of the Old World, but a child is unsuccessful. The boy is bad, but what is there, m ... to he, our boy. "

N. Uskov, the editor-in-chief of Snob, is the one who recently interviewed the Minister of Culture of Medina.

“The Russian man cannot be compared with anyone: neither with the Chechen, nor with the Chinese, nor with the American, nor with the Jew.”

A. Koch - former Deputy Prime Minister of our Motherland.

“Everything in the world would be easier if the Russian nation stopped. The logic that guides my people now is akin to the logic of a mad dog. The mad dog runs, not knowing where, it comes out with poisonous saliva and attacks on everyone he meets, ”- Valery Panyushkin, a reputable journalist in the capital's media.

“I consider Russian men for the most part to be animals, creatures of not even a second, but of the third kind” - Artemy Troitsky, another respected journalist.

“What kind of civil liberties are we talking about? freedoms whose for whom? What could be the "civil liberty" of a monkey? it is tiresome to repeat all this a hundred and fifth time — if you think that Russians are people, you will never understand how Russia lives and what happens in it. ... you are worried about some Russians who shouldn’t live in the world at all! ”

V. Shadronov, also a journalist

No, no, I'm not saying that our handshaking intellectuals brought the people mentioned at the beginning to Wahhabism. This is all - only a cherry on a multi-layered cake made of crap, which flies into the face of a Russian person every day. On which ultimately - the last hope: on his courage, loyalty, patience, strength. Because if he doesn’t go, he doesn’t stand up, he doesn’t stand, he doesn’t apply force, then nobody will go, hen’t stand up and he willn’t do it. Our handshake is only brightly and creatively crowning and closing the cycle of bullying - bribery, negligence, theft, and indifference. What these people say and write is simply a way to deprive a Russian person of the last remnants of dignity, deprive him of the last opportunity to be himself. This is a bright convex picture with the inscription "Russian and dogs are not admitted."

All these media spits are only a symbol of the attitude of the Russian financial elite and the intelligentsia that eats from its soles to this people and this country.

To be normal (not hysterically-shifted on Russianness or anti-Russianness, but normal) to Russians in our information space is intolerable. This means being a constant target for unpunished (see A. R. Koch) insults, wishes to die, doubts from mental and physical usefulness.

And the other, the polar first torture - torture with official pomp and falsehood, imitation, pop music, even in things that are absolutely not adapted to the priestly - for example, in prayer. I said that you are a Russian Orthodox patriot - and you feel as if you were recorded as a mummers. This stay in fake official imitation is also traumatic.

As a result, people want to get away from a traumatic identity. From Sovietness, from Russianness, from Orthodoxy, from Russian patriotism. Where can they go after this? Either in "Westerners" or in radical Islam.

The elite rudeness itself is unbearable, not so much the full impunity of the boors. It seems that we and they are separated by a white, cozy fence through which they can spit on us with convenience and comfort.

The only person whom our law enforcement agencies have dared to take is someone B.Stomakhin, whose case is now being tried in the Butyrsky court and by which I am now passing through a witness. To all appearances, he is the only one who does not have ties that would play the role of this white fence.

People sometimes ask me if I am not ashamed to participate in imprisoning a patient with the body and mind of a person?

I am ashamed, but not that they put down Stomakhin. I am ashamed that Koch is free. I am ashamed that they were not punished in any way, neither Troitsky, nor Shadronov, nor Romanov got any lesson.

Of all these poisonous secretions, that “moral terror” about which Kurginyan spoke so much is formed. This terror is not physical, but it completes the work begun by terror with physical, economic problems, and state disorder. He takes the soul to the last heat.

Until the last heat, these souls are brought by the feeling of being useless, insecure, lack of identity, the inability to find a way and a reason for self-esteem, lack of an idea of ​​their place in the state of Russia.

Now we are in a zone of extreme instability. Now Russia has entered the test field. And we entered it with a completely neglected ideological sphere, with the absence of a system for creating and reproducing identity. Moreover, without any idea of ​​what this identity is.

The danger is hard to exaggerate.

Removing traumatic informational trends is not even a minimum: it is a minimum of a minimum. A systematic work is needed to create a living, relevant Russian and Russian identity.

It should be understood and constantly remember that identity is not a castle in the clouds. It is formed in a specific habitat. In the very environment where our vegetable bases use practically diplomatic immunity and extraterritoriality, and top officials from national republics come to settle matters of their fellow countrymen in district ATS.

Therefore, the necessary identity can not be built without changing the environment. Both habitat and information environment.

And, since we have extremely little time, and we have a lot of work, measures should be extraordinary.
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  1. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 30 October 2013 06: 58
    11
    All this is strange. There is an article about inciting ethnic hatred, and as a rule they plant not those, not those. And it would be necessary to start with these very borosopisy who are Russian in us, they do not see people at point blank range.
    1. Civil
      Civil 30 October 2013 07: 17
      15
      The plan is simple and visible, to incite the peoples of Russia against each other, it turns out that degenerates are happily undergoing. A lesson was the lesson of the collapse of the USSR, oh for nothing.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 30 October 2013 08: 12
        +2
        Quote: Civil
        The plan is simple and visible, to incite the peoples of Russia against each other

        Just inciting is not enough. It is important to destroy the possibility of uniting activities among the peoples of Russia in preparation for the defense of the Fatherland. For this, in many regions, the so-called. "civic patriotism", also known as local patriotism)). At the same time, the military-patriotic (state) component of patriotism is being consistently erased. When all these civil-patriotic "concepts" are adopted in the regions, then the incitement will take place with the money of the regions - on a legal basis, and financing of military-patriotic education with the money of the regions, on a legal basis, is still impossible)).
        1. zart_arn
          zart_arn 30 October 2013 08: 22
          +1
          The rules for the peaceful coexistence of populations in nature are extremely simple - to obey the living conditions determined by the prevailing population. Otherwise, the struggle for existence. National discord has nothing to do with it.
      2. Toporkoff
        Toporkoff 30 October 2013 10: 21
        +2
        “History does not teach anything, but only punishes for ignorance of the lessons” (V.O. Klyuchevsky)
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 October 2013 07: 40
      +6
      For ASGARD! Vladimir, not long ago you wrote, "Let's remember with a good word the Primorsky partisans." Do you still want to write something like that?
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 30 October 2013 07: 45
        +1
        also for Asgard)
        Asgard burned you. Now everyone will think that JIaIIoTb is you wink
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 30 October 2013 08: 23
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        For ASGARD! Vladimir, you wrote not long ago- "Let's remember with a good word the Primorsky partisans

        Do you believe Nosikov? I sympathize with you.
        All his activities as a blogger can begin with the word "pseudo." A participant in the "Red Blitzkrieg" project, nicknamed "Blue Dill" in certain circles. Having such "patriots" as Nosikov, you don't need enemies.
        1. Captain Vrungel
          Captain Vrungel 30 October 2013 08: 55
          +3
          Citizen Nosik needs to fully disclose topics, and not grab what is beneficial to him. Example. On the bandit Markov from Odessa. He was made a "patriotic hero". How did he become one? Everything is banal, not politically, but selfishly gangster. I crept into the deputies in a bandit-regional way "pidrahuy-kidalovo". Former retailer, drug and arms dealer, leader of gangs of the "Rodyna" (family) formation (political force). I imagined that after becoming a deputy. he was on an equal footing with Kivalov and ran into him in an attempt to seize the golden land at the Inter-cruise base of sailors in Arcadia. Kivalov harshly pointed to Igor's place at the parasha through the PR. Markov grabbed at straws that he was a loyal friend and fighter for the Customs Union with Russia and became a political victim. In fact, the showdown was purely criminal. Bandit Markov is as determined a politician as his TV ATV with a half-educated herald, a former trash and alcoholic Kvasnyuk. Do not confuse b ... in with politics, citizen Nosik.
      3. JIaIIoTb
        JIaIIoTb 30 October 2013 08: 30
        0
        Dear Alexander. Although you are a moderator, you are mistaken that JIaIIoTb and Asgard are the same person. I am JIaIIoTb and no one else.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 October 2013 09: 35
          0
          Quote: JIaIIoTb
          Dear Alexander. Although you are a moderator, you are mistaken that JIaIIoTb and Asgard are the same person.

          I’m not mistaken, I don’t know you. And I never said that you and Asgard are the same person
  2. igorra
    igorra 30 October 2013 07: 04
    +9
    1. Nazi is also an American project, otherwise all these speakers would be in the morgue or in intensive care.
    2. Or the Putin project, to tense the situation and under the guise of an anti-oligarchic coup.
    3. Or, as always in Russia: "Until the man crosses himself, the thunder will not break."
    There will be no Russians, there will be nothing, neither a country, nor other nations, absolutely nothing that all these liberals would not say. There will be no liberals themselves, in the west they are above the roof. There, unlike the Russians, no one will feed the freaks wailing the people and the country. But STALINA is still not enough!
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 30 October 2013 07: 11
    16
    Мnot ashamed, but not what Stomakhin is being planted. I am ashamed that Koch is free. I am ashamed that they were not punished in any way, neither Trinity, nor Shadronov, nor any Romanov received any lesson.

    Here, one comrade wrote me to extremists for asking an inconvenient question to Putin.

    I’ll ask Putin another inconvenient question - how it happens when they blame, insult and urge to kill Russians, you are silent. When voices are heard to do the same for people of a different nationality, you immediately speak of intolerance and inciting ethnic hatred - there is a bias in my opinion.

    While this will continue, I will never be your supporter, I immediately tell everyone I'm not a nationalist, but an ordinary Russian man.
    And my only desire is that our children women and old people never experience what happened in the Caucasus in the 90s (my hair stood on end when I saw in the video how representatives of one hot nationality were cutting a Russian woman)
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 October 2013 07: 42
      +8
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I will ask one more inconvenient question to Putin

      There is no Putin and therefore he will not answer. Although he is not sure that he will answer, even if you write it on the Kremlin website.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 30 October 2013 07: 46
        +5
        His servants will answer-read the reviews of members of the forum he does not have time, there are more important things to do.

        So SO, and slowly the gap between the ordinary citizen and the official endowed with the highest authority is growing.
        1. My address
          My address 30 October 2013 08: 23
          +4
          The answer will be about nothing, but starting with the word "thank you".
      2. ZU-23
        ZU-23 30 October 2013 08: 50
        0
        What does Putin do right))), or maybe people want to hear from Putin that he would call to wet all non-Russians)))
    2. Sinbad
      Sinbad 30 October 2013 16: 18
      +2
      What will happen if the Russians respond to the call for "tolerance" and begin to adopt other people's customs, such as the custom of blood feud? And remembering Grozny and many other things, they will answer for all civilians. It seems to me that a lot of empty spaces on the world map are formed. Liberals of all stripes and their big overseas brother are afraid of this. And they are trying their best to prove to us that the Russian people, as it were, do not exist. But Russian is not only a name and surname, but also a state of mind. They want to deprive us of our souls!
      PS Sorry for the confusion.
  4. Hleb
    Hleb 30 October 2013 07: 12
    +4
    if not for this article, I would not have known about the "traumatic information trends" of Koch, Troitsky ...
    I would go and go about my business. But now I have no time for work, my head is full of one thing - how to find a way out of the "zone of extreme instability"
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 30 October 2013 08: 58
      0
      Quote: Gleb
      how to find a way out of the "zone of extreme instability"

      Here without a pint you can’t figure it out ...
    2. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 30 October 2013 14: 23
      0
      Quote: Gleb
      if not for this article, I would not have known about the "traumatic information trends" of Koch, Troitsky ...

      Forgot to mention Novodvorskaya. She, too, would not mind speaking out in a similar vein ...
      Quote: Gleb
      I would go and go about my business. But now I have no time for work, my head is full of one thing - how to find a way out of the "zone of extreme instability"

      What impressionable you are however ... Throw out of your head the search for inputs and outputs. Everything has been decided for you for a long time ... So you can safely throw this heavy burden off your shoulders and calmly go go about your business ...
  5. makarov
    makarov 30 October 2013 07: 20
    +5
    "..people want to leave their traumatic identity. From Sovietness, from Russianness, from Orthodoxy, from Russian patriotism. Where can they put themselves after that? ..

    Russia is strong with miracles
    and I’m not tired of weaving them:
    sheep choose here,
    yourself wolves graze yourself? I.G.

    ". And we entered it with a completely running ideological sphere, with the absence of a system for creating and reproducing identity ... "

    Leading parties and classes,
    leaders never understood
    that an idea thrown to the masses -
    this is a girl thrown into the regiment. I.G.
  6. pensioner
    pensioner 30 October 2013 07: 26
    +2
    Quote: makarov
    unbridled Bandera is also the result of Poklonnaya.
    ?? I do not understand ... Poklonnaya, and here with it?
    1. alexng
      alexng 30 October 2013 08: 14
      +1
      Quote: retired
      ?? I do not understand ... Poklonnaya, and here with it?


      And this is an attempt to transfer everything from a sick head to a healthy one. The tactics of liberalists and the like have changed and are turning into a covert processing of public opinion .., i.e. throwing sneaky little cats on the fan of the Internet space.
  7. Koronik
    Koronik 30 October 2013 07: 37
    +1
    “What kind of civil liberties are we talking about? freedoms whose for whom? What could be the "civil liberty" of a monkey? it is tiresome to repeat all this a hundred and fifth time — if you think that Russians are people, you will never understand how Russia lives and what happens in it. ... you are worried about some Russians who shouldn’t live in the world at all! ”
    Yes, didn’t we really deserve such treatment, but are the people who write all this also Russians? Or are they indifferent to the fate of their compatriots? In general, I think that love for your people should be instilled from childhood, from school years as it was done in the Union. And for some reason there is no law that provided for the most severe punishment for such statements, all the dirt pours from the TV screens. yellow press.
  8. Denis
    Denis 30 October 2013 07: 39
    +3
    sabotage is still in education and what!
  9. Ustas
    Ustas 30 October 2013 07: 44
    +7
    “The Russian man cannot be compared with anyone: neither with the Chechen, nor with the Chinese, nor with the American, nor with the Jew.”

    A. Koch - former Deputy Prime Minister of our Motherland.

    Why does article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation not work against this person? Why is this Mr. ... and still free?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 October 2013 08: 11
      +3
      Quote: Ustas
      Why does the article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation not work against this person?

      Because the law is the same for all .... mere mortals.
    2. Denis
      Denis 30 October 2013 09: 33
      +3
      Quote: Ustas
      Why does the article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation not work against this person?
      3,14doors seem to be above the law, but on the list
  10. Alikovo
    Alikovo 30 October 2013 07: 48
    +2
    accelerates, Trinity, kokh, panyushkin of such m ... with red-hot iron in one place. may think about their wrongness.
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 30 October 2013 08: 37
      +2
      It is impossible not to agree with you, but in my opinion it is better to put all these brothers on board the steamer and, as the Bolsheviks did in their time, send them by "cash payment" to their owners (you can open the Kingston for ventilation so as not to suffocate from your own shit), I think you can donate by some boat.
  11. olviko
    olviko 30 October 2013 07: 54
    +4
    "The question is: with what resources should we solve all these tasks? Who will" kill terrorists in the toilets "?"

    I wonder why all of a sudden this panic? The question is not at all "with what resources and who", but the presence of political will. All theoretical and practical questions on this topic have already been successfully resolved during the times of Dzerzhinsky and Stalin, so take it and use it, and say thank you to them.
  12. baskoy
    baskoy 30 October 2013 07: 55
    +2
    What else to expect if money, money, MONEY are put at the forefront ... Even after the terrorist attacks, all the media, first of all, report how many "money" the state will make the relatives of the victims happy. Disgusting ...
  13. DimychDV
    DimychDV 30 October 2013 07: 55
    +3
    “Long live,” he says, “the Russian people.”
    Look, how beautifully you spoke ... maybe you could hire Russian boys with baseball bats and line up all of them who are criticized in the comments? ... So they don’t understand ...
  14. makarov
    makarov 30 October 2013 07: 59
    +1
    Quote: retired
    Quote: makarov
    unbridled Bandera is also the result of Poklonnaya.
    ?? I do not understand ... Poklonnaya, and here with it?


    Actually, strange SW. Retiree. I did not make such comments. Why do you attribute it to me? - surprised !!
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 30 October 2013 08: 07
      +1
      Today, the covers are torn bully
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 30 October 2013 10: 27
      +2
      Sorry old fool Paul! A mistake with quoting came out ... And I can’t fix it anymore.
  15. ZU-23
    ZU-23 30 October 2013 08: 07
    +1
    The little thing is straight forward a mess, in the style of rentv))), it even brings a horror flag, like our gray Russia)))
  16. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 30 October 2013 08: 20
    +1
    Article of course +. A bit controversial, because in the situation itself there is some contradiction.
    It is clear that in the same America they can’t wait until the Russians explode, in accordance with the mentality, to catch in the rising turbidity. If you do not dismember, then sharply omit the possibilities of Russia, to deprive the assets to the maximum. Those. dangerous to take emergency action but at the same time
    And, since we have extremely little time, and we have a lot of work, measures should be extraordinary.

    Not only direct insults play a role, but also the general emotional background in the flow of information. Here I read where I am writing now, the name of the links under the photographs, “A promising Russian weapon has become a real laughing stock,” “Black Berets” are completely worn out: the impoverished pride of Russia. ”I looked at the links quite business articles without any hysterics and emotions and are called differently. "Someone B. Stomakhin", if there is any fault, it would be nice to condemn it for a precedent, and spread it to all media where there is a possibility, or at least to the entire Internet.
  17. Grbear
    Grbear 30 October 2013 08: 22
    +2
    And why is Mr. Nosikov appealing to the people? Want extraordinary measures of a national character? So this is incitement! Why won't the writing fraternity sue their "brothers"? or is it a shame that they "cut down", but you failed?

    I would give an example: I sued such and such a s. son for something, but the court sent me. Here we would help. And so ...

    Minus. Ornate fornication.
  18. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 30 October 2013 08: 28
    +3
    It is strange that until now the Guarantor of the Constitution is limited only to talks about the fight against terrorism deployed against the Russian people, because the corrupt media only do what they pour mud on us, and they put Colonels Kvachkov and Khabarov who expressed their displeasure in prison. Now, for the sake of all this filth, the Russian people have again begun to spread rot? And what is said about the growing chasm between the ruling class and the people, it has always been huge: Power does not depend on the people, and the people also do not depend on it very much. Only one thing good gentlemen forget, all this can result in a Russian revolt "meaningless and merciless ", then no one will seem a little! That again the" Black Hundred "and the slogan" Hit the Jews - save Russia "? But we have already passed this! Guarantor Ay, it's time to take serious measures, otherwise it will be too late!
  19. antiaircrafter
    antiaircrafter 30 October 2013 09: 03
    +1
    A. Koch - former Deputy Prime Minister of our Motherland.

    I already forgot about him.
    N. Uskov - editor-in-chief of Snob
    Valery Panyushkin, a respected journalist in the capital's media.
    Artemy Troitsky, another respected journalist.
    V. Shadronov, also a journalist

    Apparently widely known in narrow circles, I don’t know them and I don’t hear what they say.
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 30 October 2013 09: 19
      +1
      That's for sure, yesterday I watched Makarov’s broadcast freedom and justice, so he closed Dorenko’s mouth well, Dorenko says that they say the budget was 500 there, 100 were stolen, and Makarov asks who told you that, he says well, the media write, and Makarov says, well, you understand write yourself read))).
  20. morpogr
    morpogr 30 October 2013 09: 12
    0
    This is known for their diagnosis of idiocy in the stage of dibilism. Such people generally can not be given the word in the media; they begin to exacerbate with moistening.
  21. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 11: 25
    -2
    Systematic work is needed to create a lively, relevant Russian and Russian identity.
    - it is necessary to strengthen the slightly shabby Russian identity. And Russian identity is a farce that is impossible in nature in principle! Since some of the peoples of the Caucasus cannot and do not want to be "in Russian likeness". The Caucasus interferes with Russia in matters of Russian identity. By separating the Caucasus, the Russian regions will be able to redistribute the country's serious financial flows in their favor. It's time for the Russian population to more clearly declare their problems.
    1. skipper57
      skipper57 30 October 2013 11: 56
      +1
      Tell me, dear, how would you like to see a "Russian person", how do you imagine him? I am Russian, according to my passport and consciousness, although the blood of the ancestors of the entire Volga region flows in me. There are Chuvash and Mordovians and Mari and Bashkirs with Kalmyks. I'm not saying that the "Russian" from Krasnodar is very different from the "Russian" from Tomsk or Arkhangelsk. I have been imagining the Caucasus and its peoples since Soviet times, and even then I was very proud that I had a friend in far-off Ingushetia. Boys from the Caucasus served with me, as I remember now we called one Georgian Mishiko (not to be confused with Sahak-i), called him so “affectionately” because he was an honest decent guy. And since that time, my understanding of the Caucasus and the people there, in principle, remained: SILENTLY STRETCHED OUT HAND, GIVED HALF OF BREAD AND DID NOT ASK FOR THANKS.
    2. CTEPX
      CTEPX 30 October 2013 12: 21
      +1
      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
      And Russian identity is a farce that is impossible in nature in principle!

      What do you have against Russian citizenship?)).
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 12: 45
        0
        I just realized that Russia and Dagestan were not on the way. Russians never! they won’t accept us until we have our (I). Contradictions on the face.
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 30 October 2013 13: 04
          +1
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          Russia and Dagestan, not on the way.

          If-not on the way with Russia)). That, along the way ... with whom?
          1. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 13: 10
            0
            Along the way, you can go alone. Many are coming. But some dependence is not excluded. Everyone depends on someone.
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 30 October 2013 14: 18
              +1
              )). If this is the path at the head of the Great Caliphate, which can be built only at the expense of Russia, then this is exactly what they are trying to achieve by "reformatting" the peoples of the Caucasus)).
              1. DAGESTAN333
                DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 15: 50
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                You can’t build something at someone else’s expense. The peoples of the Caucasus, not the property of Russia. We have the right to build anything, but at our own expense.
                1. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 31 October 2013 10: 10
                  +1
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  The peoples of the Caucasus, not the property of Russia.

                  The Russian people are also not the property of Russia. He, like the peoples of the Caucasus - its contents)).
        2. Chicot 1
          Chicot 1 30 October 2013 14: 35
          +1
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          I just realized that Russia and Dagestan were not on the way. Russians never! they won’t accept us until we have our (I). Contradictions on the face

          Probably offended because of this at the "not identical" Russians, that they are not able to understand the subtle soul of a true Dagestani? .. Well, but by the way, this is your own business. I don’t dare to overpersuade, and even more so I’m not going to apologize about this either for myself or for the rest of the Russians ...
          But the words in your comments fit pretty well the same earlier mentioned 282 Art. The Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ... Of course, in this case you are incredibly lucky - you are not Russian. According to it, only we are extremists. You are only talking about "national identity" (and how could it be otherwise). But according to your (and not only your views) Russians cannot have it because of the very "non-identity" ...
          And in conclusion, let me ask a question from those that are filled up - your next step will be the implementation of your ideas about the separation of the paths of Russia and Dagestan with the help of weapons and / or items replacing it? ..
          1. DAGESTAN333
            DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 14: 53
            0
            Probably offended?
            - Yes, what are you ... of course not ... It's just that I’m already tired of being in the ostensible country.
            Quote: Chicot 1
            Here are just your words quite cool fit under that same 282 art. Criminal Code ...

            - Okay, I’ll stand in the multimillion-dollar queue of Russian brothers. Especially ours, Topvarov’s colleagues.
            Quote: Chicot 1
            Your next step will be the implementation of your ideas about the separation of the paths of Russia and Dagestan with the help of weapons or items replacing it?

            - no way. I will present my thoughts to everyone. And after Zhirik .., and Russian SMS for him, to be honest ... believe me ... I will find many like-minded people. And already find. However, I will always respect the majority opinion.
            When the majority of Caucasians, tired of being h-th, then my thoughts will come true. But for now, we like to be h-th.
            1. Chicot 1
              Chicot 1 30 October 2013 16: 10
              +1
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              - what are you ... of course not ...

              So be it...

              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              It’s just that I’m already tired of being in the supposedly own country

              As Kozma Prutkov used to say: "If you want to be happy - be it" ... To paraphrase it in this context, I can say - you do not want to be "h-pim", do not be it ...

              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              stand in the multimillion-dollar queue of Russian brothers

              And here (don’t judge me, but ...) I catch you on the word -
              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              some peoples of the Caucasus cannot and do not want to be "in Russian likeness"

              So choose one of two things - either not to be in the "Russian likeness", or to be with the "Russian brothers" in the queues ... There is no third way ...

              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              there is no way

              Knowing human nature (and with rare exceptions it always strives for extremes), I doubt it ...

              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              believe me ... I will find many like-minded people. And already find

              And here I believe ... And the fact that a lot of those also believe. And then there is a rather strong example to follow ...

              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              Yes, and after Zhirik .., and Russian SMS for him, to be honest ..

              Zhirik Zhirik, but the reason for the "Russian SMS" could be the behavior of your fellow countrymen. For any action always gives rise to opposition. Have you thought about it? ..

              Quote: DAGESTANETS333
              When the majority of Caucasians, tired of being h-th, then my thoughts will come true. But for now, we like to be h-th

              See above the interpretation of the words of Kozma Prutkov. But in this case, already in relation to the "majority of Caucasians" ...

              Now let me ask you one question ... You can not answer it if you consider it necessary ...
              What conversations are going on among your fellow countrymen on the topic "but after the Olympics"? ..
              And do not count it as idle interest, for I know what the Russians living in the North Caucasus say about this. Naturally, there was a desire to compare ...
              1. DAGESTAN333
                DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 16: 59
                0
                Quote: Chicot 1
                As Kozma Prutkov used to say: "If you want to be happy, be happy."

                - You know ... this Kozma ... by the way, as I understand it, he’s a great guy ... how simple it is, but ... well done ...
                Quote: Chicot 1
                I catch you on the word -

                - The main thing, do not get tired, it’s the turn to cut, in front of me ...
                Quote: Chicot 1
                the reason for the "Russian SMS" could be the behavior of your fellow countrymen

                - therefore, my fellow countrymen, there is nothing to do there.
                Quote: Chicot 1
                Knowing human nature (and with rare exceptions it always strives for extremes), I doubt it ..

                - Your right.
                Quote: Chicot 1
                either not to be in the "Russian likeness", or to be with the "Russian brothers" in queues ...
                - standing honestly in the queue is, of course, good and right. But now the guilty ones, who were the first to break the line, cannot be found. Now, in general, they do not want to have a common queue.
                Quote: Chicot 1
                What conversations are going on among your fellow countrymen on the topic "but after the Olympics"?

                - there is talk that there will be a tightening of nuts. Thieves of officials, religious radicals will be pressed. And the people want this.
                And what do Russians living in the Caucasus say?
                1. Chicot 1
                  Chicot 1 30 October 2013 17: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  You know ... this Kozma ... by the way, as I understand it, he’s a great guy ... how simple he is, however

                  Everything ingenious, however, is always simple ...
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  The main thing, do not get tired, it’s the turn to cut, before me

                  Is it really in a hurry (or afraid to be late)? ..
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  Your right

                  Rather, some knowledge in such a field as "human behavioral model" ...
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  standing honestly in the queue is, of course, good and right. But now the guilty ones, who were the first to break the line, cannot be found. Now, in general, they do not want to have a common queue

                  An exceptionally rhetorical question - will we figure out who first violated the order, or do we start to think how and how to restore order? ..
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  therefore, my fellow countrymen, there is nothing to do

                  Those of them who behave rudely - yes, there really is nothing to do. Or do you want to return everyone in a row? ..
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  there is talk that there will be a tightening of nuts. Thieves of officials, religious radicals will be pressed.

                  This is possible, and must be done without waiting for the completion of this very Olympics ...
                2. Chicot 1
                  Chicot 1 30 October 2013 17: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                  And what do Russians living in the Caucasus say?

                  In general, the same thing. But lately, more and more talk has begun to arise that a new war will begin. And it will already affect not a single region, but a large part of the territory of the North Caucasus ...
                  1. DAGESTAN333
                    DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 21: 03
                    0
                    Quote: Chicot 1
                    Is it really in a hurry (or afraid to be late)?

                    - No, of course I'm not in a hurry. But I have absolute confidence - I will grow old, in line, but it will not reach me.
                    Quote: Chicot 1
                    Rather, some knowledge in such a field as "human behavioral model"

                    - to run in the "forest" as a lonely, not mine, believe me. For me, so these matters need to be approached more culturally.
                    Quote: Chicot 1
                    or do we start to think how and how to restore order? ..

                    - let's start thinking about who and what is meant by the term (order). What if we all understand the same way?
                    Quote: Chicot 1
                    Or do you want to return everyone in a row? ..
                    - those who have dignity have nothing to do, on an absolutely foreign land. And if they stumble, then all whom you consider necessary, kicks to their homeland.
                    Quote: Chicot 1
                    But lately, there has been increasing talk that a new war will begin
                    - They want to blow up Russia from the inside just for the Olympics. But the Russians certainly love to explode, don't they?
                    1. Chicot 1
                      Chicot 1 31 October 2013 00: 42
                      +1
                      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                      no, of course I'm in no hurry

                      And rightly so, do not rush. And then, because you can catch it ...
                      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                      run in the "forest" as a lonely, not mine, believe me

                      The time of singles has sunk into oblivion for a long time. Now they prefer to move in groups through "forests" (and other localities) ... However, there are also loners. But they are only performers and consumables. Cannon fodder...
                      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                      let's start thinking about who and what is meant by the term (order). What if we all understand the same way?

                      It's never too late to start thinking. Moreover, it is advisable to do this before you do anything ...
                      But what we mean by the term the same thing is the question ... Of those that are backfilled ...
                      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                      who has dignity, there is nothing to do, on an absolutely foreign land

                      Those who have dignity and behave with dignity. Moreover, regardless of where they are located - at home or on a foreign land ...
                      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                      And if they push back, then all whom you see fit, kicks home

                      As I understand it, you give the right to choose? .. I'm afraid that your countrymen will not agree with you ...
                    2. Chicot 1
                      Chicot 1 31 October 2013 01: 00
                      +1
                      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                      They want to blow up Russia from the inside for the Olympics

                      The fact that everyone is starting to perceive this very Olympiad for some sacred reference point is already starting to slowly but surely annoy ...
                      They tried to destroy Russia long before it. Almost from the very beginning of its appearance in 1991 (I take the latest history). They will try to do this afterwards. Moreover, probably with the same zeal ...
                      The whole question is, who benefits from this? ..
                      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                      Russians love to explode, of course, don't they?

                      Rather, they are still "inert", and usually (especially at the beginning) tolerate more. And they usually endure to the limit ... And then it already depends on the volume and activity of the "initiating" component. And without it, no "blast" has ever "exploded", right? ..
                      1. DAGESTAN333
                        DAGESTAN333 31 October 2013 09: 10
                        0
                        Quote: Chicot 1
                        right that do not rush. And then, because you can catch it ...

                        “Are you threatening?” What for? Do you want me to lose the remnants of adequacy? I repeat, if you, honestly, put half of the Russians for inciting, then I will sit down with pleasure. I love when everything is honest ...
                        Quote: Chicot 1
                        But they are only performers and consumables. Cannon fodder...

                        - that’s why, I prefer cultural options. It’s not necessary to go against current laws.
                        Quote: Chicot 1
                        As I understand it, you provide the right to choose?

                        - Everyone decides who to leave on his land. Here you decide.
                        Quote: Chicot 1
                        they usually endure to the limit ... And then it already depends on the volume and activity of the "initiating" component. And without it, no "blast" has ever "exploded", right? ..

                        - absolutely so. So I propose not to wait for the critical accumulation of the initiating component. Everything can and should be solved culturally. We will not be different, but you are not suitable for such people. It's time to part culturally.
                      2. Chicot 1
                        Chicot 1 31 October 2013 15: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: Chicot 1
                        the words in your comments are pretty cool for the very mentioned earlier 282 art. Criminal Code

                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        I stand in the multimillion-dollar queue of Russian brothers.

                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        The main thing, do not get tired, it’s the turn to cut, before me

                        Quote: Chicot 1
                        Is it really in a hurry (or afraid to be late)? ..

                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        no, of course I'm in no hurry

                        Quote: Chicot 1
                        And rightly so, do not rush. And then, because you can have time

                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        Are you threatening What for? Do you want me to lose the remnants of adequacy?

                        First of all, do not lose the thread of conversation. Then there will be no need to lose the remnants of adequacy ...
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        if you, honestly, put half of the Russians for the incitement, then I will sit down with pleasure. I love when everything is honest

                        For the sake of objectivity, I will say that in this way you will not be provided with pleasure ...
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        that's why I prefer cultural options. Not necessarily go against current laws

                        As practice of recent years shows, such issues are not culturally resolved. If only because actions aimed at promoting the branch are themselves illegal (according to the laws of the Russian Federation) ...
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        everyone decides who to leave on his land. Here you decide

                        Maybe not quite in the subject, but I repeat however -
                        Quote: Chicot 1
                        Those who have dignity and behave with dignity. Moreover, regardless of where they are located - at home or on a foreign land

                        And those who consider it necessary for any reason to behave rudely were not even invited. I think that you will understand what I want to say by this ...
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        So I propose not to wait for the critical accumulation of the initiating component. Everything can and should be solved culturally. We will not be different, but you are not suitable for such people. It's time to break up culturally

                        Alas, culturally parting does not work out. Yes, and will not be allowed to do this. I think that you yourself understand this no worse than me ... The example of Chechnya in this regard is very revealing. So a new war cannot be avoided. But to me personally, she does not smile at all. I think that you too ...
                      3. DAGESTAN333
                        DAGESTAN333 31 October 2013 15: 56
                        0
                        Quote: Chicot 1
                        For the sake of objectivity, I will say that in this way you will not be provided with pleasure ...
                        - that's it! If they do not plant all the screaming in the internet about chu-ka and black-puffs who humiliate other peoples and nations, then what matters to the law is to me? What am I, "redhead"?
                        Quote: Chicot 1
                        As practice in recent years shows, such issues are not culturally resolved.
                        - and what if, the attack on Dagestan in 1999. Russia has arranged for idiots-terrorists? So that later to tell the whole world - "boys, it was not us who started", what if so? And we got back Chechnya ..! Have you thought about such a scenario? I hope I'm wrong.
                        In any case, you need to be civilized, and normally part. And do not conquer back, all whom they released, under far-fetched pretexts.
                        Anyone does not want war, except for empires! Catch my thought?

                        I am pleased that you have a strict mind. Honestly, it’s easy for me with you.
                      4. Chicot 1
                        Chicot 1 31 October 2013 18: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        If they don’t plant all those screeching in the internet about dumb and black-and-blacks, humiliating other nations and nations, then what is the matter of law to me?

                        Believe me, far from stupid people are sitting "there", and they know how to distinguish simply "squealing in the internet" from serious people. They don't really bother with the first ones (perhaps they don't bother yet), but the second ones are taken into development. In principle, this is a normal practice that takes place in all serious "offices" ...
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        What am I, "redhead"?

                        No, but you do not belong to screamers ...
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        and what if, the attack on Dagestan in 1999. Russia has arranged for idiots-terrorists? So that later to tell the whole world - "boys, it was not us who started", what if so? And we got back Chechnya ..! How! Have you thought about such a scenario? I hope I'm wrong

                        I counted this option as one of the probable. Moreover, even during those events, information surfaced about the connection of the recently deceased Berezovsky with militants ...
                        But without the full amount of information, it is difficult to affirm unequivocally and categorically. And therefore, this assumption remains only an assumption ...
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        In any case, you need to be civilized, and normally part.

                        Civilization is not a XNUMX% guarantee of a normal and healthy development of events ...
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        And do not conquer back, all whom they let go, under far-fetched pretexts

                        This is exactly what I had in mind when I cited Chechnya as an example. For no one ever kindly let anyone go ...
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        Anyone does not want war, except for empires! Catch my thought?

                        I get it. But any public entity (and not only Russia) always seeks to acquire more than it has at the moment. Or at least keep existing ones ...
                        Empires (powers) have more opportunities to do this, since they are the most powerful players ... But give free rein to any country that is not an empire and it will make every effort and opportunity to become one ...
                        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                        I am pleased that you have a strict mind. Honestly, it’s easy for me with you

                        Thank you, and mutually! Your health and the health of your near and dear ones ...
                      5. DAGESTAN333
                        DAGESTAN333 31 October 2013 18: 52
                        +2
                        You know, thank you ... for the first time I see a man who wants to shake hands after he made me understand that, if necessary, they give me a shred! )))) Amazing! But the point is only in honesty and justice ... But where are you, these Russians to take that ..? I am ready to respect such Russians.
                        And to you, all the best.
    3. Denis
      Denis 30 October 2013 16: 19
      +1
      Quote: DAGESTANETS333
      we like to be
      This is the root of the whole problem. During the Soviet era, there were whole Korean diasporas in the republics of Central Asia, so no one called them at all. Why? Yes, they just didn’t stick out anything. They had their own customs, their own culture, but they didn’t scream songs with praise of Kim Il Sung from the cars and they didn’t dance their dances under the windows, and they didn’t hear about the shooting on the occasion of the celebration. they didn’t adapt or adapt to anyone, they just didn’t show off
      And there was respect
  • skipper57
    skipper57 30 October 2013 12: 36
    +1
    Quote: DAGESTANETS333
    Having separated the Caucasus, Russian regions, they will be able to redistribute the country's serious financial flows in their favor

    1. EVERYTHING WOULD LIKE TO HEAR OPINION FROM THE CAUCASUS;
    2. by quote: If it’s wrong, correct it, but at all times, including the Russian Empire headed by the tsars, and during the Soviet period, the Caucasus was always given more than it received from them. Sorry for the word, but the CENTRAL AUTHORITIES NEVER "MILKED" THE CAUCASUS.
    3. And what, in general, to distribute? What will "get" from this to me personally?
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 12: 53
      0
      Quote: skipper57
      SHO-TAKI WOULD LIKE TO HEAR OPINION FROM THE CAUCASUS

      - You're lying. In fact, you are not interested in the opinion of the Caucasus. You agree, and you will "eat" what the "absolutely objective" media will offer you.
      Quote: skipper57
      The Caucasus has always been given more than received from them

      - a moot point.
      Quote: skipper57
      And what, in general, to distribute? What will "get" from this to me personally?
      - definitely. Following the logic - excluding the Caucasus from the budget plan, it will be possible to patch holes in other regions. It is obvious.
  • skipper57
    skipper57 30 October 2013 12: 53
    +2
    Quote: DAGESTANETS333
    Russians never! they won’t accept us until we have our (I).

    Sorry, you touched me, well, right to the quick. Your "self", what is it? I really want to know, not out of curiosity, but maybe we (all together) do not understand something?
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 12: 55
      0
      Our mentality. We will not change.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 30 October 2013 13: 00
        +1
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        Our mentality. We will not change.

        But they have changed over the past 30 years)). You were purposefully re-educated)). Like the Ottomans at one time.
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 13: 07
          0
          Your idea is not clear to me. More specifically please.
          1 - over the last 30 years, in which direction and how have they changed?

          2 - How did the Ottomans change? And who?
          1. CTEPX
            CTEPX 30 October 2013 14: 09
            +1
            Quote: DAGESTANETS333
            1 - over the past 30 years, in which direction and how have they changed? 2 - How have the Ottomans changed? And who?

            1 - towards increased religiosity. In the direction of hostility towards Russia)).
            2 - and the Ottomans were changed in the same direction)).
            Who? - enemies of Russia)). Yes, and Dagestan too)).
            1. DAGESTAN333
              DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 14: 35
              0
              Religiosity does not mean at all - hostility towards Russia. Radicalism - yes.

              The enemy of Russia, the Russians themselves, or rather easy-to-manage, which destroys Russia itself by someone’s first command. And the rest is true .. little things. But this is, for me personally, not important. It is necessary to give free rein to the people. And the people want to live in justice - Russian to Russian. Everything is fair.
              1. CTEPX
                CTEPX 30 October 2013 14: 50
                +1
                Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                The enemy of Russia, the Russians themselves, or rather easy-to-manage, which destroys Russia itself by someone’s first command.

                Here I am - about this)). Dagestanis - "... the Russians themselves, or rather easily controlled, which destroys Russia itself at someone's first order."
                Not only, of course, Dagestanis. And not even all Dagestanis)).
                1. DAGESTAN333
                  DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 16: 08
                  0
                  Easily manageable and we, of course. We are easy to manage, you are easy to manage ... Everything is great! The composition is going downhill at an excellent pace! Everyone is happy. What else do we all need?
                  1. CTEPX
                    CTEPX 31 October 2013 10: 12
                    +1
                    Quote: DAGESTANETS333
                    What else do we all need?

                    Stop scattering, and bend the world under us)).
      2. uhjpysq1
        uhjpysq1 31 October 2013 11: 03
        0
        no matter how much the wolf does not feed, it still looks into the forest.
  • skipper57
    skipper57 30 October 2013 14: 47
    +1
    Quote: DAGESTANETS333
    Our mentality. We will not change.

    All nations have their own mentality. But it is precisely for this that we treat each other with a certain degree of respect. Let me explain: I like to communicate with the same Ossetian (there are no others), referring to his mentality. What I do not have is in him (in the sense of mentality).
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 15: 08
      -1
      And I like to chat with my Russian friends. And how many of us are there ..? 100 people? 1000? Maybe 10000? And the remaining millions?
  • skipper57
    skipper57 30 October 2013 15: 12
    +2
    Quote: DAGESTANETS333
    You're lying. In fact, you are not interested in the opinion of the Caucasus.

    I will not highlight all your answers, but I will unsubscribe for all three:
    1. Media are different. But there are also brains of their own, which, even after reading something from the media, will draw the correct conclusion. We can read between the lines, but your expression "to eat" is not good, even for reasons of the same mentality. Such expressions are often heard, they usually say so when one wants to belittle the interlocutors, and the nation as a whole. NOT GOOD. even outside the national question.
    2. To argue about who gives more to someone or receives without knowledge of the elementary laws of the economy is useless, we will remain with us.
    3. It’s impossible to get holes in other regions, as most of the regions live on their incomes. Fed. the budget allocates money only for federal purposes. There really is not enough money. But always the younger and the sick were given the last.
    And most importantly: do not put on a par with the central government, the media and some politicians. This is all passing.
    And I’ll add a little more from the economy: Dagestan alone, without a big Russia, will not survive, unfortunately this is a fact of our time. Soon Ukraine will fall and it will suffer the fate of the Baltic states.
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 15: 32
      +1
      Quote: skipper57
      The media are different

      - But the vote of the people, it happens one thing!
      Quote: skipper57
      Your expression "eat" is not good

      - pardon me. He did not have goals to humiliate.
      Quote: skipper57
      It is useless to argue about who gives more to someone or receives without knowledge of the elementary laws of the economy, we will remain with us.
      - True, she is always alone.
      Quote: skipper57
      about always the younger and sick gave the last

      - Very noble, by the way ... But it's time to stop.
      Quote: skipper57
      Fed. budget allocates money only for federal purposes
      - What are you saying? Probably therefore, this money should not be poured into the development of regions ..?
      Quote: skipper57
      Dagestan alone, without big Russia - will not survive

      - which is better, life or honor? Ours are still confident that "life" is better ...
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 30 October 2013 15: 35
        +1
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        - True, she is always alone.

        Not this way. The only one is only TRUE. And there are a lot of truths, each has its own. Since it takes into account HIS features
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 15: 59
          +1
          Quote: Misantrop
          Not this way. The only thing is only TRUTH.

          - I agree.
          Quote: Misantrop
          And there are a lot of truths, each has its own. Since it takes into account HIS features

          - May everyone be left with their own truth.
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 30 October 2013 20: 10
        0
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        - which is better, life or honor? Ours are still confident that "life" is better ...

        good
  • skipper57
    skipper57 30 October 2013 15: 21
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    Quote: DAGESTANETS333
    And the remaining millions?

    I would say the opposite: US MILLIONS, and those thousands. For they get someone's money for it, work it out. So, that is not enough money for all. By the way, the media and some politicians pay the same money.
    And in general, why am I bad at thinking for some Dagestan peasant (Chechen, Ingush, Kabardian, etc.) who also plows from morning to night, earns his own money to feed his family? Is there really a different type of callus on his hands?
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 30 October 2013 15: 57
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      Quote: skipper57
      I would say the opposite: US MILLIONS, and those thousands

      - and I, as a youth, thought so.
  • skipper57
    skipper57 30 October 2013 15: 53
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    Quote: DAGESTANETS333
    But it's time to stop.

    History has shown that Russians, in a non-national sense, did not stop. (Shipka ave., Africa in general for a long time to type)
    Quote: DAGESTANETS333
    Probably therefore, this money should not be poured into the development of regions ..?

    Wherever they pour, they will still plunder, at least yours, at least ours, but everything is passing ....
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    Ours are still confident that "life" is better ...

    the good and the best are what a person always strives for. I got to the best, and somewhere even better, and so on ad infinitum. But "honor" and other concepts of this kind do not change, moreover, regardless of external conditions.
  • Guilty
    Guilty 1 November 2013 08: 28
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    My friend had an Azerbaijani neighbor. And that Azerbaijani loved the smoke in the stairwell. A friend didn’t like this situation, he asked me not to do it anymore, they say smoke is coming into the apartment. Once asked, zero attention, two asked, the same garbage, for the third time an Azerbaijanian tapped him on the head and continued to smoke. By the way, the acquaintance really ASKED, did not threaten, did not force the pork to eat with a knife at the throat, just asked. Bottom line: a friend sues and issues a phrase
    "Your Honor, what do you think would happen to me if I acted in Azerbaijan like the accused?" Won. Azerbaijani changed his apartment, and then finally got out of the city. And no one with bats ran around the city, did not turn over cars, did not burn Azeri shops. What I wanted to say, in isolated cases, the gopnik must answer. Harshly, like a man, to bloody snot and shrill pleas: "Uncle, don't !!!" But when it takes on a mass character, let the authorities remove this headache, why are taxes paid?