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Weapon, starter or decorative object: a mysterious device from Germany

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The administration of the Military Review regularly receives letters from readers. Come suggestions, questions and requests for help. This time we were asked to help identify the purpose and model of a mysterious object. Unfortunately, information on this subject is extremely scarce and most of it is based only on an external examination. Therefore, the task of identifying an object is difficult.


It is known that the object was brought several decades ago from Germany, after which for a long time it was idle and did not attract attention. Only a few years ago, the owners of the mysterious object became interested in its origin, but could not find the necessary information. All available information was described by a short phrase: “the item was found in a pile of scrap metal,” and the person who found it died and therefore cannot help in the search for information. The current owners of the object attempted to establish its origin with the help of German specialists. However, sending letters to several major museums in Germany also did not give any results.

Weapon, starter or decorative object: a mysterious device from Germany



Greater help in determining the origin of the device could have inscriptions stamped on it. One of the parts has the following stamps: Bosch, Germany Imported D'Allemagne and WD Rotodyn. It is worth noting that such an inscription only confuses traces. The fact is that under the brand name Rotodyn, Bosch had previously produced generators for bicycles. On the one hand, this fact complicates the search, but on the other hand, there is a reason to consider the unit, on which the inscription is stamped, as a compact electric generator. This assumption, in turn, allows further searches.

The total length of the mysterious object is approximately equal to 60 cm, and it weighs about 10 kilograms. A quick inspection suggests that the object has something to do with the rifle arms and probably represents some kind of original system of this class. However, it combines several features that can hardly be found in other weapons systems. The basis of the object can be considered a relatively large cone-shaped part, which can be considered the trunk. The rifled barrel is connected with a kind of breech with a bolt. The latter, when unlocked, is retracted to the left. For locking using the original lock, consisting of a clamp, spring and screw. On the shutter unit is also located a device that can be considered a trigger mechanism.





As can be seen in the existing photographs of the mysterious object, firing (if it was envisaged at all) is possible only with single shots. After each shot, you need to remove the liner and charge the new cartridge, and then cock the firing mechanism. An interesting and unusual feature of the object is ammunition. In the existing copy, apparently, it was supposed to use the cartridge 7,62х51 mm NATO. However, this munition was created only in the late forties, and an unusual weapon looks as if it was created in the first decades of the last century. However, this discrepancy can be explained by the fact that “complete” with a mysterious object was a sleeve that allows you to charge the cartridge 7,62x51 mm into the existing barrel. It is possible that this item was made much later than the weapon itself. Probably, someone conducted experiments and tried to adapt the old development for a relatively new cartridge. Unfortunately, there is no information about these attempts either.

The cartridge itself also raises questions. Together with the object was discovered the original ammunition, assembled from metal and plastic parts. Only the bottom and the end of the sleeve are made of metal. Its main part is made of plastic. In addition, there is a kind of bullet in the cartridge case, also made of plastic. The reasons for this performance of the cartridge are not completely clear, but the use of plastic may hint at the purpose of the entire system. It is possible that the object was not intended for firing live ammunition.






The barrel of the proposed rifle system is equipped with some kind of unit that can be considered a muzzle brake. It is a cylinder with a large number of oblong slots. An interesting feature of the muzzle brake is its mount. A characteristic ball bearing separator is visible between the sleeve on the barrel and the brake cylinder. Probably, the muzzle brake (if the purpose of this part is determined correctly) should have rotated.

Finally, on the breech of the object are some interesting details that complement its overall appearance. So, in the lower part there is a mount for mounting on a dovetail bar. On the sides of the breech are screws, probably designed to control the various parameters of the instrument. In addition, the breech of the object is equipped with a flap, consisting of three parts. The shield is probably one of the most prominent parts of the device. The fact is that on the side segments of the shield are oak leaves, and on the central - an anchor and a locomotive.

Directly in front of the shield is a cylindrical unit with embossed inscriptions Bosch, Germany Imported Dallemagne and WD Rotodyn. It should be noted that the assumption of the use of an electric generator is not confirmed by the presence of any wiring. The wires may have been lost, which is why by now only metal parts of sufficient rigidity and strength are present in the construction of the object. The top side of the generator is decorated with a relief lion face.








It is also worth noting that the engraving is available on the shutter. Such a “decoration” of the device raises big questions. The fact is that such decoration of armaments or any other systems is peculiar to the past centuries, but not to the first decades of the 20th century, i.e. the estimated creation time of the mysterious object. Two conclusions can be drawn from this: either an unusual weapon was created earlier than intended, or it was intended for certain purposes for which an appropriate appearance is required. Confirmation of the second version can serve as a locomotive, depicted on the dashboard. Its appearance allows us to roughly assume the time at which the decorative elements were made.

To determine the purpose of an unusual device, one should pay attention to several characteristic features. So, the sleeve for the NATO NATO 7,62x51 mm looks like it was made much later than the object itself. From this it follows that it was originally intended to use another ammunition. The second interesting feature of the object is a relatively weak stem locking system. It turns out that initially it was planned to use only blank ammunition, and this allows us to make assumptions about the purpose of the device. Finally, decorative elements that do not carry any practical sense are the last characteristic feature of a mysterious object.







From these features follow several versions of the purpose and method of application. The blank cartridge allows you to abandon the version of the use of the system as a small arms. At the same time, it could be used as a throwing, signaling or any auxiliary equipment. For example, images of an anchor and a steam locomotive suggest that the device is related to ship or railway steam engines. In this case, the object could be used as a starter, and the blank cartridge created the necessary pressure in the system. However, this version is not confirmed as a weak locking system of the barrel, and the similarity of the muzzle brake.

A large number of decorative elements can be considered evidence that the object was used as a signal tool on a ship or even a high-ranking yacht. Such an assumption allows us to put together the facts concerning the use of blank ammunition, as well as the presence of decorative "excesses". In addition, the signal use of such a system is indirectly confirmed by a strange unit, resembling a muzzle brake. It is impossible to speak with confidence about this without having the results of relevant tests, but a slotted cylinder mounted on a bearing can increase the loudness of the shot, which is necessary for the effective operation of the signal tool.







Probably, all the versions proposed above may not correspond to reality, since they do not explain the presence of the electric generator of the WD Rotodyn system. Moreover, all existing versions of the origin and purpose of the device have a common drawback: they do not allow to put together all the main features and explain their purpose. Because of this, for example, there are grounds to say that during the use the mysterious object was reworked and the sleeve, providing the use of a relatively new cartridge, is not the only innovation in the design. Finally, it cannot be excluded that the device was assembled from parts of different units for decorative purposes, and its practical use was not planned at all.

As we see, the available amount of information allows only to make assumptions about the purpose of both individual components and the object as a whole. Therefore, we invite readers to join the discussion of the artifact and try to establish the truth. Perhaps it is a broad discussion that will allow to answer the question: what was found in Germany many years ago?







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  1. T-130
    T-130 29 October 2013 08: 57
    0
    Something this unit resembles a weapon for throwing "Greek fire" (a flamethrower from the times of the Byzantine Empire), but then it is not clear why there is a spike.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 29 October 2013 09: 23
      +8
      Quote: T-130
      but then it’s not clear why there is a briar.

      The author rests on the version of the weapon. But for the weapon there are a lot of unnecessary details. And most importantly, the bearing. The usual rolling bearing is open. At least it’s difficult to determine something from the photo. Keep it in your hands, take it apart, then thoughts may appear.
    2. Speedy
      Speedy 29 October 2013 11: 05
      +8
      Salute in some admiral's boat ..
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 29 October 2013 13: 01
        +1
        Redone by artisans
    3. Letterksi
      Letterksi 29 October 2013 11: 58
      17
      Call to the Academy of Sciences:

      - I found a meteorite
      - What does it look like, what shape?
      - He is big and heavy. He has a round shape
      “Maybe this is not a meteorite if it is round?”
      - Yes, I definitely say! Meteorite! Just do not understand why it says 32 kg?

      laughing
    4. mirag2
      mirag2 29 October 2013 13: 34
      +1
      Good hour, I read many posts on this topic.
      Firstly, a really very interesting topic is to drive in, what kind of unit it is!
      I think that this is most likely some kind of burner.
      Perhaps with ignition from the cartridge.
      It does not look like a one-time flamethrower (they had such at the end of the war).
      Maybe a burner to warm something ...
      No, obviously, a hose with a clamp was put on behind.
      I doubt that there was a cartridge there at all, which is mistaken for the high part of the atomizer.
    5. bereg
      bereg 29 October 2013 18: 24
      +1
      sling gun
    6. Alex toll
      Alex toll 22 November 2013 16: 22
      0
      Read the BOTTOM MESSAGE, THE LAST - IF THIS IS THAT WEAPONS IS THIS WELCOME OF RUSSIA - ATTENTION !!!! LINKS ARE READED FOR READING
  2. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 29 October 2013 09: 04
    +4
    Gravitsap for Schauberger engine? The first thing that came to mind was the ignition distributor.
    1. AlNick
      AlNick 29 October 2013 12: 14
      12
      No not gravitsap am

      "Well, gravitsappa is something without which a pepelats can only fly like this. And with gravitsappa - to any point in the Universe - fucking! - in five seconds."

      What, the tranculator did not recognize good
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 29 October 2013 12: 34
        10
        What, the tranculator did not recognize

        Yeah, a shortened model. For special forces.
      2. atalef
        atalef 29 October 2013 12: 47
        +3
        No not gravitsap

        Spare part from the chassis of the papelats good
      3. Ptah
        Ptah 29 October 2013 13: 14
        +7
        Quote: AlNick
        didn’t recognize the tranculator

        No, we know the tranculator. He is like that
        1

        And this is a pumped easel model -
        ц

        Here is a detail from him.
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 29 October 2013 13: 53
      +4
      Of course a gravitsap. That is, all the parameters of this thing entirely fit into the parameters of the toy. Most of all, it looks exactly like a toy for a highborn child. A blank cartridge, loading one at a time, everything is extremely complicated so that it clangs beautifully, slaps, spins and spins. Ample decorations, deliberately serious and numerous inscriptions with obviously not serial form ... The muzzle brake on the bearing will spin so cool, with a buzzing ... wow!
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 29 October 2013 09: 05
    +3
    Most likely just a signal device.
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 29 October 2013 09: 39
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Most likely just a signal device.


      Interesting idea what
  4. klimpopov
    klimpopov 29 October 2013 09: 09
    +2
    Maybe someone’s pampering? Doubtfully practical application.
    1. here and there
      here and there 30 October 2013 00: 27
      0
      ordinary artifact collected from scrap metal in the form of firearms, for those who had a lot of free time))) do not rack your brains!
  5. Evgeny_Lev
    Evgeny_Lev 29 October 2013 09: 37
    +4
    Harpoonomet.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 29 October 2013 10: 07
      +2
      Evgeny_Lev "Harpoon launcher."
      What a harpoon-gun there is a blaster!
      1. ICT
        ICT 29 October 2013 12: 11
        +5
        quote:IF YOU SHOULD THINK THAT THIS RADIANT IS NOT A TRUMP SWITCH, THIS WILL BE THE LAST THOUGHT IN YOUR CHATLAN BASK!

        lol
        (I'll see more in the evening)
    2. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 29 October 2013 14: 20
      +3
      rather, the lineman then
      1. almost demobil
        almost demobil 29 October 2013 17: 36
        +1
        Quote: fennekRUS
        rather, the lineman then

        Also during the course of reading such an idea appeared. There is a semblance of a gun, all the more decorated with lion muzzles, ancient guns often seem to be decorated with them. The thing is apparently marine, located on the upper deck, because bronze (you can always make a sailor n - shout it), does not rust and with feldipers for beauty. Could it really be for feeding a rope or a line to a distance? what
  6. Baron Wrangell
    Baron Wrangell 29 October 2013 09: 40
    +1
    strange decorations, anchor, steam train, oak leaves! amazing thing! intrigued, maybe someone really knows!
    it seems to me that the signal device with the function of a shot and a beep
  7. vkrav
    vkrav 29 October 2013 09: 41
    15
    Ignition for a furnace on fuel oil - mb steam boiler?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 29 October 2013 09: 58
      +3
      Also inclined to such a device. And the boilers were on steam locomotives and on ships.
    2. STALGRAD76
      STALGRAD76 29 October 2013 10: 09
      +2
      I am for this version or for a signal device, an anchor and a steam train I think this is confirmed, but the principle of operation, the bearing is embarrassing ....
      1. Metlik
        Metlik 29 October 2013 14: 01
        +2
        It is unlikely that a device for igniting a firebox would be covered with so many decorations. This thing stood outside and in a conspicuous place.
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 29 October 2013 18: 35
          +2
          Metlik RU Today, 14:01 ↑
          It is unlikely that a device for igniting a firebox would be covered with so many decorations. This thing stood outside and in a conspicuous place.

          Then it was cool. Lion head, oak leaves is family smile .
          I agree with the vkrav + ahead of lol , looks like a ignition nozzle. For example, kerosene is poured into the upper cylinder. A capsule is placed in the shutter. The "muzzle brake" rotates on a bearing, sprays burning kerosene over the firebox, then the main (rotary) nozzle is switched on, for heavier fuel (fuel oil, oil).
          1. Metlik
            Metlik 29 October 2013 18: 48
            0
            There, on the shield with leaves, two rounded pins protrude forward. The Germans used such to put on a canvas cover. The same on the Ural motorcycle. So this killer was sticking out anyway.
            1. shpuntik
              shpuntik 29 October 2013 20: 20
              +1
              Metlik RU Today, 18:48 PM ↑ New
              So this killer was sticking out anyway.

              I examined it more closely, rather yes, I stood upright.
              The Ukrainians have found, they refuse gas. They write: "... the request of the Russians for translation is not satisfied. Let them learn MOV!" fellow Google translator saved yes
              http://www.museum-ukraine.org.ua/?go=News&in=view&id=9263
    3. PiP
      PiP 29 October 2013 13: 58
      +2
      Yes, it is very similar to a powder igniter (ignition) of the engine.
    4. Kagor
      Kagor 29 October 2013 22: 44
      0
      They are set on fire by torches.
  8. DuraLexSedLex.
    DuraLexSedLex. 29 October 2013 09: 50
    0
    Or maybe the starter))) But then for what?))) With the permission of the author, I will borrow photos and ask my friends ... yes, the photo is hard to see, but it seems to me that it has details that appeared later ... this is an assumption) )))
  9. Earnest
    Earnest 29 October 2013 10: 03
    +1
    Quote: vkrav
    Ignition for a furnace on fuel oil - mb steam boiler?

    Quote: Wedmak
    Also inclined to such a device. And the boilers were on steam locomotives and on ships.

    I, too, had this idea first, it beats especially persistently due to the weakness of the structure and the pronounced slit of the "knob". The analogy with the fuse for the BDSH is still rushing), especially remembering the fashion at that time for flamethrowers.
  10. report4
    report4 29 October 2013 10: 05
    +2
    It looks like a gas lamp.
  11. Rinat 1
    Rinat 1 29 October 2013 10: 11
    +3
    An interesting thing, I am also inclined that this is the ignition for the furnace on fuel oil - mb steam boiler. As a weapon, this device is too sophisticated.
  12. Earnest
    Earnest 29 October 2013 10: 13
    +2
    Quote: report4
    It looks like a gas lamp.

    Perhaps not a flashlight, but a burner with ignition from a cartridge? It is unclear the termination of the vernier plugs-torsion bars in the central part - control valves?
    1. report4
      report4 29 October 2013 10: 24
      0
      Quote: Earnest
      Quote: report4
      It looks like a gas lamp.

      Perhaps not a flashlight, but a burner with ignition from a cartridge? It is unclear the termination of the vernier plugs-torsion bars in the central part - control valves?

      It is doubtful that there was a cartridge. Rather, the connection of a hose or an electric candle.
      At the expense of krutilok, etc., some kind of evaporated combustible liquid could well serve as fuel.

      Why think of a lantern?
      1. There are decorative elements (marine),
      2. Boshevtsy made lanterns at that time.

      Mb some ship lantern on fuel oil.

      PSTS-su can advise you to contact the Boshevians themselves.
      1. Jin
        Jin 29 October 2013 16: 34
        0
        Quote: report4
        Why think of a lantern?


        Especially not a pocket one !!! Weight "only" 10 kg laughing
  13. gameover65
    gameover65 29 October 2013 10: 29
    +6
    bulbator
    1. Kagor
      Kagor 29 October 2013 22: 47
      0
      Separator!
  14. leonardo_1971
    leonardo_1971 29 October 2013 10: 32
    +2
    I think this is a launcher for an airplane engine!
    1. Kagor
      Kagor 29 October 2013 22: 51
      +1
      It seems to me that this is the most probable version - on some piston airplanes powder cartridges are used now as an emergency tool.
  15. Sirozha
    Sirozha 29 October 2013 10: 34
    +3
    "Cannon" for transferring the rope from one watercraft to another ... But why a DTK with a bearing and a generator? ... Hmm! An interesting thing, such a contraption with a bunch of unnecessary gadgets in the style of STIMPANK, they also love this! Maybe STAMPUNKI cosplayers of the early twentieth century really))
    1. Evgeny_Lev
      Evgeny_Lev 29 October 2013 11: 23
      0
      Well, we can assume that the DTC is functionally combined with a cable reel. But the generator ???
      Maybe in order to transmit electricity through a shot cable (which, being on the drum, spins the generator)? o_o i.e. In fact, is this the first EMP gun? or a shocker?
    2. Kagor
      Kagor 29 October 2013 22: 53
      0
      It will be small and why, then the compensator-flame damper?
  16. Shatelxx
    Shatelxx 29 October 2013 10: 42
    +3
    Steampunk gun, assembled from the available parts, purely for decorative purposes))
  17. zub46
    zub46 29 October 2013 10: 49
    +4
    This is a device for igniting combustible mixtures in some volumetric furnaces such as ship gas turbine ones.
  18. Timeout
    Timeout 29 October 2013 11: 00
    +2
    Similar topics on this unit have already been held a couple of years ago on the Hansa:
    http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/36/820601.html.
    Copy paste is on Popgan and Hansa. Olzip: http://guns.allzip.org/topic/36/820601.html, http://popgun.ru/viewtopic.php?f=149&t=397529
  19. Metlik
    Metlik 29 October 2013 11: 21
    +1
    I think this device is a flashlight. It was attached to the periscope or snorkel of the submarine, and served to signal to its ship, in conditions when the batteries are completely discharged. A small generator with a screwed impeller could be useful just to a submarine if the engine or the main generator is damaged.
    Probably, there are not enough details with which the burner spins the generator.
    1. shpuntik
      shpuntik 29 October 2013 20: 05
      0
      Lieutenant colonel
      Metlik RU Today, 11:21 AM
      I think this device is a flashlight. It was attached to the periscope or snorkel of the submarine, and served to signal to its ship, in conditions when the batteries are completely discharged.

      If the "pipelac" was fastened vertically, then it could very well be. As for firing, the bolt cover does not carry a load, two flaps hold the load, and there is a firing pin in them.
      The flame distributor spins up from the energy of the shot (idle? Or is there no difference?)
      On the other hand: the supply of combustible mixture is small, airtight. Most likely this is an emergency device.
      Then it becomes clear the hole in the lid, opposite the loop-visible serves to supply air.
      Well, then the bosses are involved, you can cover the breech with tarpaulin.
      Probably, there are not enough details with which the burner spins the generator.

      Well, here is unlikely. Then like this: wink
      In general, this is a product of gas war, along the way laughing , from here legs grow, Western Ukraine:
      http://www.museum-ukraine.org.ua/?go=News&in=view&id=9263
  20. Delta
    Delta 29 October 2013 11: 43
    +1
    All versions are broken on a rifled barrel. Why rifled for a blank cartridge, for the signaling, for the starter? as for me, it’s like samopal, which we made in childhood and not from such pieces of iron
    1. vkrav
      vkrav 29 October 2013 12: 05
      +1
      A rotating torch - fuel oil foams, or something, or a spray cloud forms, which ignites - "DTK" is on the bearing ... Or just a defective barrel from a rifle is used. The device itself is fixed in the technological hole of the boiler and is clearly covered with carbon
    2. Nickanor
      Nickanor 29 October 2013 16: 20
      0
      Very similar to a samopal. Produced by a handicraftman from some antique piece or device on occasion.
      From that and the insert under the NATO cartridge. Perhaps it was once a lantern or a generator, or set on fire for something. But some folk sage was clearly trying to turn him into a homemade gun under the NATO patron.
  21. Hort
    Hort 29 October 2013 11: 55
    +1
    can some homemade thing? A man was collecting from improvised means, therefore both anchors with steam locomotives, and a bearing)

    Although the parts are too high-quality for the home-made
    1. Hort
      Hort 29 October 2013 12: 07
      +1
      but, again, there may be a quality homemade - because Fritz did. They are pedantic and neat :)
  22. kosta_cs
    kosta_cs 29 October 2013 12: 03
    11
    This is how the Gloomy Teutonic Genius seems to be behind a drawing, who knows what with the thought: "Oh, I-I, their bin will break your brain, mein liber descendants" laughing
  23. Hort
    Hort 29 October 2013 12: 24
    +4
    still, these dirty Germans are the Germans. They will construct that, and now we’ll break our heads wassat
  24. Afanasevich
    Afanasevich 29 October 2013 12: 29
    0
    "If you think this damn thing isn't a tranclucator, that will be the last thought in your Chatlan head!" (see "Kin-dza-dza!" A short patsako-chatlan dictionary).
  25. abdrah
    abdrah 29 October 2013 12: 39
    +3
    Very similar to the creation in the style of steampunk - http://darisa.ru/archives/3518
    similar equipment ..
  26. _KM_
    _KM_ 29 October 2013 12: 46
    +2
    Something like a nozzle. Or a starter part.
  27. Volkhov
    Volkhov 29 October 2013 12: 53
    +1
    From the point of view of a crazy science fiction writer, this is an oil ejector nozzle for any boiler - steam or air is supplied through a barrel with a cap nut, oil or fuel oil from the rear through a fitting, on the side there are carburetor type ejector adjustment screws. A rotating tip provides a spread of the fuel torch, the bearing is lubricated with fuel oil.
    Well, or the gloomy Teutonic genius created a miracle that was understandable only to him, but by no means to advanced contemporaries with the Unified State Exam, MBA and magistracy.
    A wonderful brain test.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 29 October 2013 13: 28
      +2
      Fuel through the barrel of the filter, steam behind - at first mistaken.
  28. Kazakh
    Kazakh 29 October 2013 13: 00
    +8
    I can’t figure it out without a bubble, I’ll buy a couple of liters drinks I just can’t write laughing and in the morning I will forget laughing
  29. Lapotnik
    Lapotnik 29 October 2013 13: 01
    +3
    The lion bothers me ... Etozh seems to be a sign of England (like a locomotive), the anchor is similar to Soviet symbols, oak leaves, then Germany.


    Do steampunk know what? So for me it is artpekal for fans of steampunk, assembled from the real details of different eras, and for different purposes. They threw it out as unnecessary (interest disappeared) and now we are tearing the Muscovite apart)))
  30. washi
    washi 29 October 2013 13: 08
    +1
    ТIt is also worth noting that engraving is also on the shutter. This kind of "decoration" of the device raises big questions. The fact is that such an adornment of weapons or any other systems is characteristic of past centuries, but not the first decades of the XNUMXth century, i.e. Estimated time to create the mysterious object. Two conclusions can be drawn from this: either an unusual weapon was created earlier than anticipated, or it was intended for certain purposes for which an appropriate appearance is required. The second version can be confirmed by the steam locomotive depicted on the shield. Its appearance suggests roughly the time at which the decorative elements were made.

    And where is it written that they are Germans, and why not Russians, who created something, and sold (for lack of prophets in their own country) without a description. The decoration of this exhibit looks in favor of this version. Germanic letters - the use of foreign components (especially readable - export)
  31. major071
    major071 29 October 2013 13: 10
    +6
    Some German took some parts from different devices and different times at a scrap metal dump, and riveted something that he himself did not understand. And then threw it back. Now, in the next world, he is probably laughing at our thoughts and statements.
  32. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 29 October 2013 13: 27
    +5
    Oh, nothing in a hurry to publish this material! Nadot was to sell HIS to the Chinese spies as know-how! And about three months later when IT appears in stores, we would definitely know what IT is. fellow
  33. Swag
    Swag 29 October 2013 13: 50
    +2
    The sophisticated genius of engineer Garin is felt.
  34. Starfish
    Starfish 29 October 2013 13: 59
    0
    intrigued. read all the comments, hoping that at least someone knows for sure what it is. but no request , it's a pity.
  35. bullet
    bullet 29 October 2013 14: 00
    +3
    Perhaps this is a variant of the ballistic barrel to determine such intraballistic characteristics as muzzle velocity and pressure. There is a barrel, a firing device, a seat for attaching points. trunk to the machine. The "generator" is possibly a crusher device for determining the pressure, the details on the sides of the barrel resemble pads for fixing the start of determining the speed of the bullet, the shields, in addition to the decorative function, could play the role of protecting the shooter's hand. Maybe!
  36. makarov
    makarov 29 October 2013 14: 13
    -1
    Quote: zub46
    This is a device for igniting combustible mixtures in some volumetric furnaces such as ship gas turbine ones.


    Very similar to the trampler, - a mechanical high-voltage current distributor for spark plugs, only with an incomprehensible alteration by a certain craftsman
  37. Andrey Skokovsky
    Andrey Skokovsky 29 October 2013 14: 32
    +1
    piece of iron all 100 years old and we can’t even understand what it is!
    What will happen in 200, or 500 years ???
    there will be huge museums filled with incomprehensible what
    or there will be a sign on the exhibit with several options for the purpose of each instance
  38. saygon66
    saygon66 29 October 2013 14: 38
    +1
    - Yes, this is a diesel engine of pure water! Some fan made it ... a kind of artifact!
  39. makarov
    makarov 29 October 2013 15: 14
    +1
    Judging by the decorative finishes and pretentiousness, I assume that this is a steam whistle of a locomobile.
  40. kafa
    kafa 29 October 2013 15: 20
    +3
    This is a stupid lighter only for steam boilers. no blaster no dildo no olympic faken
    1. vober
      vober 29 October 2013 16: 54
      +1
      I got the same idea that this is a coal-firing system for steam locomotives or ship boilers. Hence the image of the engine and the anchor.
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 29 October 2013 19: 14
        0
        - Lions too ... that ... will we kindle? wassat
  41. vvp2412
    vvp2412 29 October 2013 15: 30
    +2
    Isn’t it easier to contact Bosch itself !? The Germans are pedants. The old product documentation is unlikely to be destroyed. Somewhere in the basements store!
    Maybe they want to buy!
  42. Marek Rozny
    Marek Rozny 29 October 2013 15: 43
    +7
    Everything was simpler:

    - Vati! Vati, ik will ein neues Spielzeug!
    - Hau ab ... Ich bin einfach Schlosser. Ik hab 'kein Geld fuer es. Nur fuer eine Tasse Bier.
    - Vaaaati! Ik wuensche Sternblaster! Mach 'es, biiiitte ...
    - Der Teifel soll dich holen ... Na, gut ... Wo ist dein altes Fahrrad?

    - Dad, I want a toy!
    - Fuck off. I am a simple locksmith, I have no extra money. Except for a beer.
    - Dad, I want a blaster, well, do it, please!
    - Damn thee ... Where is your old grand? I'll blaster you a blaster ...
  43. kafa
    kafa 29 October 2013 15: 44
    -2
    YES HERE "BANNIK" SHOW - WILL ANNOUNCE WEEK
  44. Black
    Black 29 October 2013 15: 49
    +5
    What is good for a German, then to us ... and it’s not clear !!
  45. Uncle
    Uncle 29 October 2013 15: 54
    +2
    What to guess, right now I will give a request to Bosch, let them puzzle that they have done such a thing.
  46. kaktus
    kaktus 29 October 2013 15: 56
    0
    maybe aliens ... wassat
    1. fedorru
      fedorru 30 October 2013 00: 17
      +6
      It is necessary to send to Ren-tv to Prokopenko, he will definitely say that an unknown contraption was found, which was transferred to the Germans, who arrived on the ground by aliens. This contraption was the main part of the flying saucer.
      Well, or ask Anna Chapman. She certainly will reveal all the secrets.
  47. makarov
    makarov 29 October 2013 16: 03
    0
    And the last option!

    Device for warming up and launching torpedoes. The triggering occurs simultaneously in two parallel cycles, igniting a shot of kerosene vapor, and the simultaneous "spitting out" of the torpedo.
    1. kafa
      kafa 29 October 2013 17: 13
      +1
      idiots need to be stupidly ignored
  48. Petrix
    Petrix 29 October 2013 16: 13
    +1
    This is some kind of joke. Collected with the goal of making money on an artifact. Advertised on forums and more expensive. The question is price. How much is?
  49. Begemot
    Begemot 29 October 2013 16: 36
    0
    This is a starter for diesel engines or igniting steam engines.
    Now stationary large diesel engines are sometimes fired with a squib, and then -
    looks like such a "pistol".
  50. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 29 October 2013 16: 44
    +6
    Guys, don’t ask Bosch. The three Germans remaining there, having seen the bearing, directly welded to the muzzle brake for the cage, will slacken with heart attacks. Because so any bearing is skewed ... twists shorter. You can use it with grinding mixture, but the Germans do nothing like that, the culture is not the same. The Turks and Arabs, who make up the vast majority of Bosch now, will not understand the request under any circumstances. Not that culture again.
    The toy is ...